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Tigers look at Miller's position
Caroline Wilson | May 10, 2007
The Age
GREG MILLER'S position on the Richmond board is expected to come under scrutiny as part of an extensive review at Tigerland that will lead to a restructured football department and an extensive bolstering of the club's recruiting before the end of the season.
While Miller remains highly regarded at the club in football operations, his dual roles as a member-elected director and football and recruiting boss have become an issue, despite vehement denials yesterday from Miller and his president Gary March.
The Age understands that March, who fronted reporters on Monday after the Tigers' record 157-point loss, learned that Miller was issuing an apology to Richmond supporters only just before it was released to members.
Most of the Richmond board had no knowledge of the Miller apology, which stole some of the following day's headlines, mentioned several excuses such as injuries and stressed that the club would not be responding to "media hysteria".
Miller was also one of the catalysts behind a briefing on the eve of the home-and-away season during which coach Terry Wallace painted a relatively pessimistic picture of the club's likely fortunes during 2007 and 2008 — four days before the Tigers' round-one clash with Carlton.
Miller said last night: "Ultimately I'll do what's best for the football club.
"As I have said all along, as resources become available I am very happy to continue to do what's best for the club.
"When I first got on the board I didn't know whether or not I was in it for the long haul. Terry Wallace hadn't come to the club and now he has — and he is also in it for the long haul. I have an excellent relationship with Terry and with (chief executive) Steven Wright and I'm sure at some point we'll weigh all that up."
The club restructure is expected to lead to a new recruiting chief being appointed over Miller's offsider Francis Jackson, with further funds injected into player development and other football resources.
Wallace, who on Tuesday described the Richmond Football Club as a "train wreck" when he arrived 2½ years ago, has been encouraged to focus more on coaching and less on selling the club's message to members, supporters and the public.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-look-at-millers-position/2007/05/09/1178390390281.html
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Should never have been allowed to enter the board contest. Should never have been allowed to continue even 1 day after being elected. That hes still on the board is not on. Everyone on here has been saying it from the start.
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I will go as far and say G Miller is a cancer on the club.
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wow settle doen tiger
Ti Xeris?
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The most important thing now is to get our recruiting and player development right and heavily resourced to compete with the other clubs no matter who takes over or whatever happens to Miller.
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Will be interesting to see what happens with the recruiting manager situation..
If someone like scott clayton or trevor woodhouse was availible we would obviously try and snap him up , but assuming
they are not i would hate to see us pick up someone with a middle of the road or worse record.
Francis Jackson is obviousy unproven but if no recruiters with a proven record are availible we should stick with him instead of getting someone ordinary
just so we can say we are making changes..
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Have it from very reliable source that that he will be replaced at years end.
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Do you know by who??? Even a hint?
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Try someone at the Demons. Thats as much as you are getting, sorry
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Cool thats enough for me :)
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Can tell you though, big spat between Miller and Wallace on Monday.
March has taken Wallaces side . Watch this space !
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Interesting , well its good that March took Wallets side anyway..
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If things dont improve over the course of the year. All Positions will be reviewed, fact, they are all on notice. ;)
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If things dont improve over the course of the year. All Positions will be reviewed, fact, they are all on notice. ;)
great news , everyone should always be accountable and reviewed.
gr8 news that miller will be gone! at least we can say we have some hope as he has been nothing but a troll
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Well looking forward to the review in that case as i cannot see much improvement...
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Can tell you though, big spat between Miller and Wallace on Monday.
March has taken Wallaces side . Watch this space !
hey jack, pm mr or text me what the spat was about , if you know that is.
cheers!
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why dont u fukcen pm him instead ?
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Tell us all Jackstar what the spat was about.
Was it to do with recruiting?
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
And you're a chump, X lol
Seriously, why can't you PM each other instead of boring us!
Of course they probably had fights this week - it's not rocket science that emotions would be on edge this week. Be disappointed if they weren't.
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
And you're a chump, X lol
Seriously, why can't you PM each other instead of boring us!
Of course they probably had fights this week - it's not rocket science that emotions would be on edge this week. Be disappointed if they weren't.
moi, no matter how much at times u disagree with me, you know i will always luvs ya
and no im not champ.... your the champ!!!! im just a legend now as im retired now :lol
and by the way, i dont think its boring, if you want boring i suggest watch BB(big brother or bold and the beautiful) or listen to tuesdays press conference or watch the replay of sundays game :thumbsup
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
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He wishes.
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He wishes.
do i?
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
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"tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!"
:lol Now there's a guy in touch with his feminine side - cheered me up :rollin
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
Your wife and kids would be so proud! ::)
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
Your wife and kids would be so proud! ::)
nothing to do with my wife and kids, its all about me!!!!!
read genes simmonds autobigraphy, "kiss and make up" and you will know what i mean.
always put urself first, nothing wrong with being selfish and keeping yourself happy!!!
remember, women only produce 1 or 2 eggs a month if they are lucky for only a 1/3 of their lives, men can produce billions of sperm daily, until they die or can function.
do the math, its pretty simple really
show me a man who does not shop around and taste many dishes from different menus and i will show you a liar.
men are men , its basic biology and we have been genetically formed this way since the beginning of time
just facts of life that many just ugnore and pretend dosnt exist
as they say, women are from mars, and men have a ......!
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::) ::) :help :nope
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
Your wife and kids would be so proud! ::)
nothing to do with my wife and kids, its all about me!!!!!
read genes simmonds autobigraphy, "kiss and make up" and you will know what i mean.
always put urself first, nothing wrong with being selfish and keeping yourself happy!!!
remember, women only produce 1 or 2 eggs a month if they are lucky for only a 1/3 of their lives, men can produce billions of sperm daily, until they die or can function.
do the math, its pretty simple really
show me a man who does not shop around and taste many dishes from different menus and i will show you a liar.
men are men , its basic biology and we have been genetically formed this way since the beginning of time
just facts of life that many just ugnore and pretend dosnt exist
as they say, women are from mars, and men have a ......!
I'm sure most men would agree with you, but have the class not to voice!
Actually, they probably wouldn't agree with you, but who cares!
PS: Thanks for the biology lesson ::)
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:cheers :ROTFL :woohoo :P
"its good to be the king"
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
Your wife and kids would be so proud! ::)
nothing to do with my wife and kids, its all about me!!!!!
read genes simmonds autobigraphy, "kiss and make up" and you will know what i mean.
always put urself first, nothing wrong with being selfish and keeping yourself happy!!!
remember, women only produce 1 or 2 eggs a month if they are lucky for only a 1/3 of their lives, men can produce billions of sperm daily, until they die or can function.
do the math, its pretty simple really
show me a man who does not shop around and taste many dishes from different menus and i will show you a liar.
men are men , its basic biology and we have been genetically formed this way since the beginning of time
just facts of life that many just ugnore and pretend dosnt exist
as they say, women are from mars, and men have a ......!
I'm sure most men would agree with you, but have the class not to voice!
Actually, they probably wouldn't agree with you, but who cares!
PS: Thanks for the biology lesson ::)
im not most men, im me
i say what i think
say what i feel
whether its right wrong nasty nice
it does not matter
what you see is what you get
im not afraid to be more or voice my opinion
i pitty those men who are to scared of doing what they really want to do and cant be themselves
its all a matter of choice , be who you are and be proud, or pretend to be something your not
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Some people might think consideration of others is a good trait to have as well, X, but whatever makes you happy!
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rule no1 , consider yourself first, and let others worry about themselves
you cant look after anyone unless you look after yourself first
pretty simple theory actually, just think about it
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I thought this thread was about footy and Greg Miller ???. Moving right along.
Is there a list anywhere of all the AFL club recruiting managers? I'd presume if we were going to make a change we wouldn't be employee a newbie but someone poached from another club.
Francis Jackson is in charge at RFC this year.
Dadoro is Essendon's from memory. I think we'll skip him given the Bombers recruiting over the past 5 years.
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What about that recruiting bloke who used to be at Essendon then C'wood - Judkins wasn't it?
Was he any good?
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Everyone has forgotten that Merv keane left Richmond at the end of last year to go to Essendon to co-ordinate there recruiting Australian Wide. Now why did Merv leave. :shh ::)
He was also on a sub-commmitee as well
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tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
nothing to do with my wife and kids, its all about me!!!!!
read genes simmonds autobigraphy, "kiss and make up" and you will know what i mean.
always put urself first, nothing wrong with being selfish and keeping yourself happy!!!
remember, women only produce 1 or 2 eggs a month if they are lucky for only a 1/3 of their lives, men can produce billions of sperm daily, until they die or can function.
do the math, its pretty simple really
show me a man who does not shop around and taste many dishes from different menus and i will show you a liar.
men are men , its basic biology and we have been genetically formed this way since the beginning of time
just facts of life that many just ugnore and pretend dosnt exist
as they say, women are from mars, and men have a ......!
I love when people use this theory.
So you're saying men are biologically made to screw around whereas women aren't.
Question: who are you screwing around with if women don't screw around?
Me thinks you've been tasting many dishes in Greek restaurants. :thumbsup
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Everyone has forgotten that Merv keane left Richmond at the end of last year to go to Essendon to co-ordinate there recruiting Australian Wide. Now why did Merv leave. :shh ::)
He was also on a sub-commmitee as well
And just maybe he might be back in the future with a few others ;)
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:lol ;) :lol
yes where were we, thats right miller
my god many of you just dont get it....its gone way over ur heads
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Have it from very reliable source that that he will be replaced at years end.
Ditto Jackstar from my end.Stood on way too many board member toes and basically lost all support.
Wallet may not see his fifth year in either.
A financial arrangement being made which is loosely tied into the so called"financial restructuring" could possibly see a change in this area as well in order for the finance to be injected.
I believe the timeframe for this to proceed will be 12 - 18 months.
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my god many of you just dont get it....its gone way over ur heads
Sweet, if i was getting it I don't think it would be over my head ;)
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Have it from very reliable source that that he will be replaced at years end.
Ditto Jackstar from my end.Stood on way too many board member toes and basically lost all support.
Wallet may not see his fifth year in either.
A financial arrangement being made which is loosely tied into the so called"financial restructuring" could possibly see a change in this area as well in order for the finance to be injected.
I believe the timeframe for this to proceed will be 12 - 18 months.
Tigertailz.
You are correct and if things dont improve, the history books will say the T. Wallace coached the RFC for 3 years
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just on anothe rpoint
caroline wilson is no poo the best journo in asutralia
that was top piece of journalism, there is so much info in that small little piece
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This crap belongs on BF, I expect better of you lot.
:banghead
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And who would be stupid enough to coach us, if Plough got the flick less than 2/3 through, knowing once again a contract at RFC isn't worth the piece of paper it is written on. Not to mention the $$$ paying out Plough with still 2 years to run on his contract. Stupid board and coterie members overrating our list again and taking the quick fix ::).
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I've heard rumours about Mark Harvey coming to Richmond. :-X
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I've heard rumours about Mark Harvey coming to Richmond. :-X
More like harvs mentor julz ;)
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I've heard rumours about Mark Harvey coming to Richmond. :-X
More like harvs mentor julz ;)
But if he came to Richmond won't certain people on here criticize him for doing 3/4 time addresses on tv when his side is losing by 5 goals :lol
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Have it from very reliable source that that he will be replaced at years end.
Ditto Jackstar from my end.Stood on way too many board member toes and basically lost all support.
Wallet may not see his fifth year in either.
A financial arrangement being made which is loosely tied into the so called"financial restructuring" could possibly see a change in this area as well in order for the finance to be injected.
I believe the timeframe for this to proceed will be 12 - 18 months.
This is one hell of a huge story :o
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Have it from very reliable source that that he will be replaced at years end.
Ditto Jackstar from my end.Stood on way too many board member toes and basically lost all support.
Wallet may not see his fifth year in either.
A financial arrangement being made which is loosely tied into the so called"financial restructuring" could possibly see a change in this area as well in order for the finance to be injected.
I believe the timeframe for this to proceed will be 12 - 18 months.
Tigertailz.
You are correct and if things dont improve, the history books will say the T. Wallace coached the RFC for 3 years
A bloody huge story and by the way wasnt Merv Keane at RFC to eventually takeover from Miller. I could swear that Id heard Merv had been brought back to Richmond so he could get the experience needed to run football operations?
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Never said Merv was there to replace Miller. you might find that Miller moved him on after last year ;)
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This crap belongs on BF, I expect better of you lot.
:banghead
Can tell you its not crap.
Remind me in September ;)
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And who would be stupid enough to coach us, if Plough got the flick less than 2/3 through, knowing once again a contract at RFC isn't worth the piece of paper it is written on. Not to mention the $$$ paying out Plough with still 2 years to run on his contract. Stupid board and coterie members overrating our list again and taking the quick fix ::).
Ask Darren Gaspar about a Richmond contract ::)
And Stupid board members overpaying and over rating the current coach ::)
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Ask Darren Gaspar about a Richmond contract ::)
He chose to retire because he thought he was too good for VFL level.
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Can tell you that Rod Butters paid out malcolm blights contract
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Ask Darren Gaspar about a Richmond contract ::)
He chose to retire because he thought he was too good for VFL level.
A contract is based on number of games played etc etc Clauses added for say over 10 games you get extra etc etc
Can tell you fact the Richmond pleaded with Gas a few years ago half way through his contract and excepted a huge pay cut, fact ;)
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Ask Darren Gaspar about a Richmond contract ::)
He chose to retire because he thought he was too good for VFL level.
A contract is based on number of games played etc etc Clauses added for say over 10 games you get extra etc etc
Can tell you fact the Richmond pleaded with Gas a few years ago half way through his contract and excepted a huge pay cut, fact ;)
Yes he did and good on him at the time. It was a huge pay cut because he was on a huge salary after Freo offered him $700k a year at the end of 2001. In any case that was all before Plough came along. Whether rightly or wrongly it is 2007 and the Club and Wallace have to do what is best for our future. What is best for our future is getting games into the kids. If Thursty hadn't done his knee Gas would have been lucky to get a game this year.
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So have we got someone whose going to pay out Wallace if they decide to move him on?
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Yes.!
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Ask Darren Gaspar about a Richmond contract ::)
He chose to retire because he thought he was too good for VFL level.
A contract is based on number of games played etc etc Clauses added for say over 10 games you get extra etc etc
Can tell you fact the Richmond pleaded with Gas a few years ago half way through his contract and excepted a huge pay cut, fact ;)
Yes he did and good on him at the time. It was a huge pay cut because he was on a huge salary after Freo offered him $700k a year at the end of 2001. In any case that was all before Plough came along. Whether rightly or wrongly it is 2007 and the Club and Wallace have to do what is best for our future. What is best for our future is getting games into the kids. If Thursty hadn't done his knee Gas would have been lucky to get a game this year.
Plough isnt going for youth according to last tuesday press conference
He is going to play the best possible team each week on form remember, Its on record him saying that there wasnt a youth policy as of last tuesday although the week before that there was ::) ::) ::)
And further more, a lot of people think Wallace is god, I can assure you he isnt. Good on him for sucking the RFC into a 5year contract for $600,000 a year. He will walk away at the end of the year 1.8m richer.
And you can forget about half the kids we have, why ? well most half deficentices in there game and wont make it. JON cant kick etc etc
Patto cant play and should never been drafted. As much as he tries jake King, why would you pick him up ( another Tim Flemming ::)
And why didnt Jackson and Moore get the flick at the end of last year.?
Plough is responsible for mistake after mistake.
Dont forget Knobel either, we already have! as its a long time since we scene him , we probably wont ever again ::)
And then there is the savior or all saviors, Kent Kingsley ::)
We arent on the bottom through bad luck, we are there by bad Management and decison making over the past 2 and half years.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
But please , stop sticking up for him and Miller.
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But please , stop sticking up for him and Miller.
Excuse me, but I'll say what I like ::)
If I come out and say let’s tank games, like I did last year, I would be hounded down and shot like I justifiably was.
Any sport, whether it’s playing lawn bowls, is about winning. And as soon as you have another mindset, like tanking games, you get what you deserve.
But, to me, Wallace’s biggest mistake was to say that you don’t have to bottom out to improve.
I think he’s found out in this competition, it does pay to lose.
The ethics of that are another issue.
Hindsight’s another factor. At the time, I might have gone for Franklin instead of Tambo. But now thinking about it I probably would have liked Cameron Wood. But there’s nothing to suggest Tambo still won’t be a good choice in a couple of years.
But the thing about this is that at the time, Wallace was universally applauded for these decisions by the majority of us. Do we not take any responsibility for this at all? Or do we just pass the buck and start undermining the club from every angle like we’ve seen here?
Well, I’m not going to. And whether that’s a decision that will bite me on the bum, I will live with it. But I’m damn sure I’m not going to run from my mistakes, start blaming others for a situation which I was fully supportive of myself.
So I’m saying to Jack, Bully and all you other weaklings, what do you say to that? Was there never a time you were supportive of the structure in the last couple of years? If so, I don’t believe you.
The same with the club. I never heard any bleating coming from the club up until this year. They were very supportive of what was happening. I thought they understood the situation – if what I read here is correct, they’re just plain stupid like everyone else.
So if any of this garbage about Wallace going this year is true, well I’m going as well. I’ve had enough of weak individuals running and supporting this club. I’m sick of the constant changes which happen from week to week. One week we’re the best things in town, the next you want to bomb the place.
The only thing I wanted was strength and unity behind the appointment of Wallace. To, at long last, see a tenure from beginning to end. No, never going to happen. You’re so blinded by what’s happening at other clubs to see the mountain we had to climb in order to survive in this competition.
There’s lots of things I’ve seen happen, the choices made which I haven’t liked. It’s not all sunshine and lollipops believe me from my end, like most of you think. I don’t enjoy thrashings, having people laugh at poor old Richmond continuously or throwing my good hard-earned money away with no return.
But I did see a light at the end of the tunnel, and now it’s just a train coming the other way. And that train is full of weak, soft-cocked, traitorous, good for nothing, useless supporters and hanger-ons who want to take lots of glory because they have big mouths but very small hearts, no intestinal fortitude, but plenty of hot air.
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Excuse me, but I'll say what I like
Exactly, you are entitled to your opinion, just like i am.
I obviously dont agree with you regarding the current position of the club.
So I’m saying to Jack, Bully and all you other weaklings, what do you say to that? Was there never a time you were supportive of the structure in the last couple of years? If so, I don’t believe you.
I was rapt that we got Wallace and Miller back in the Frawley days. As for the structure of the club, i have never been happy with it. The club has operated poorly for 25 years, nothing has changed.
I had hoped that Miller would change the way that things were run at the club, with his so called knowledge. I was sucked in by him and all he seems to doing is creating factions within the club.
Take a good look at Tuesday's with Terry last week, its no surpise that Wallace and Miller didnt talk to each other. :shh
But I did see a light at the end of the tunnel, and now it’s just a train coming the other way. And that train is full of weak, soft-cocked, traitorous, good for nothing, useless supporters and hanger-ons who want to take lots of glory because they have big mouths but very small hearts, no intestinal fortitude, but plenty of hot air.
Maybe you are more patient than most people or the rot that has taken over Richmond for the last 20 plus years has become so common to you that you are used to it.
Everyone here wants the same thing, a sustained period of success.
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judge there input by what happens on match days.
We have gone backward as a club-onfield.
3 100 point thrashing last year.
and last week belting was a disgrace.
Heading for another wooden spoon in the trophy cabinet for 2007.
If this is progression or light at the end of the tunnel I will go he.
Its a circus
At least frawley got us to the finals before the whhels dropped off.
With Wallace and Miller the wheels dropped off from day 1
Poor recruiting etc etc
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
Your wife and kids would be so proud! ::)
nothing to do with my wife and kids, its all about me!!!!!
read genes simmonds autobigraphy, "kiss and make up" and you will know what i mean.
always put urself first, nothing wrong with being selfish and keeping yourself happy!!!
remember, women only produce 1 or 2 eggs a month if they are lucky for only a 1/3 of their lives, men can produce billions of sperm daily, until they die or can function.
do the math, its pretty simple really
show me a man who does not shop around and taste many dishes from different menus and i will show you a liar.
men are men , its basic biology and we have been genetically formed this way since the beginning of time
just facts of life that many just ugnore and pretend dosnt exist
as they say, women are from mars, and men have a ......!
I'm sure most men would agree with you, but have the class not to voice!
Actually, they probably wouldn't agree with you, but who cares!
PS: Thanks for the biology lesson ::)
im not most men, im me
i say what i think
say what i feel
whether its right wrong nasty nice
it does not matter
what you see is what you get
im not afraid to be more or voice my opinion
i pitty those men who are to scared of doing what they really want to do and cant be themselves
its all a matter of choice , be who you are and be proud, or pretend to be something your not
X, your a legend in your own mind, too most others your just a silly fool. Seldom do you see a man smash himself to bits with his own tongue the way you have, tragedy really.
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I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
;D
mmkay.
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why dont u effen pm him instead ?
nice post, u r a champ :clapping
hey,pretty cool the way ur name reads,""xXx"
u must be a real ladies man..... :thumbsup
tell ya what , if we ever meet, i will show you my collection of photos. im like a tourist, i take a photo of every place where i have "been" if you know what i mean, and believe me i dont discriminate, therr are a couple of average types there , but there are quite a few 10's !!! can tell you now, many men(and dykes) would only dream to have been in places wher i have and thats no bull!
Your wife and kids would be so proud! ::)
nothing to do with my wife and kids, its all about me!!!!!
read genes simmonds autobigraphy, "kiss and make up" and you will know what i mean.
always put urself first, nothing wrong with being selfish and keeping yourself happy!!!
remember, women only produce 1 or 2 eggs a month if they are lucky for only a 1/3 of their lives, men can produce billions of sperm daily, until they die or can function.
do the math, its pretty simple really
show me a man who does not shop around and taste many dishes from different menus and i will show you a liar.
men are men , its basic biology and we have been genetically formed this way since the beginning of time
just facts of life that many just ugnore and pretend dosnt exist
as they say, women are from mars, and men have a ......!
I'm sure most men would agree with you, but have the class not to voice!
Actually, they probably wouldn't agree with you, but who cares!
PS: Thanks for the biology lesson ::)
im not most men, im me
i say what i think
say what i feel
whether its right wrong nasty nice
it does not matter
what you see is what you get
im not afraid to be more or voice my opinion
i pitty those men who are to scared of doing what they really want to do and cant be themselves
its all a matter of choice , be who you are and be proud, or pretend to be something your not
X, your a legend in your own mind, too most others your just a silly fool. Seldom do you see a man smash himself to bits with his own tongue the way you have, tragedy really.
for starters, what most others think of me is not of my concern, eps on net forums.
yes i am a legend, ask anyone who knows me close enough, not anonymous net junkies
;)
gees i wont sleep now cos many on here think im a fool! :o ::)
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Jacko you well know that I was one of the first in here to suggest that Miller shouldnt be on the board and not overly happy with his role at Richmond. As for Wallace, Im not hellbent on keeping him or getting rid of him- but if Gary March sacks him then as a lifelong Richmond supporter I wanna know that Gary March has found someone whose gonna stick the money in to pay him out, because as a club we cant afford a $1.2 million payout.
And by the way Sheedy was on radio today he seemed adament that he would be coaching in 2008. Essendon havent given him a commitement so the plot thickens further.
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27 years later and some Richmond people still can't let Sheeds go ::). It's tragic. It would be typical RFC if we finally got "our man" when he is now past it.
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Plough isnt going for youth according to last tuesday press conference
He is going to play the best possible team each week on form remember, Its on record him saying that there wasnt a youth policy as of last tuesday although the week before that there was ::) ::) ::)
I would say playing youth and picking a team on form is pretty much the same thing at Richmond these days. Some senior players are only getting a game because you can't have 22 kids going around.
And further more, a lot of people think Wallace is god, I can assure you he isnt. Good on him for sucking the RFC into a 5year contract for $600,000 a year. He will walk away at the end of the year 1.8m richer.
I will judge him based on what he is doing rather than what he is paid. I wonder how much the players have earned over the years for mediocre performances :whistle.
And you can forget about half the kids we have, why ? well most half deficentices in there game and wont make it. JON cant kick etc etc
Patto cant play and should never been drafted. As much as he tries jake King, why would you pick him up ( another Tim Flemming ::)
And why didnt Jackson and Moore get the flick at the end of last year.?
Plough is responsible for mistake after mistake.
Dont forget Knobel either, we already have! as its a long time since we scene him , we probably wont ever again ::)
And then there is the savior or all saviors, Kent Kingsley ::)
We arent on the bottom through bad luck, we are there by bad Management and decison making over the past 2 and half years.
In most drafts half the kids don't make it. The problem at Richmond over the years is we gave away top picks for recycled older duds and so we were left with no kids coming through hence the missing 22-26 year old generation on our list.
Yes Plough will live or die by his decisions but obviously going by what has been said in this thread some Richmond people fail to understand where our list. It's like believing recruiting Franklin over Tambling would have changed last week's result. I have no feelings towards either Wallace or Miller but I can see changing the coach won't make our youngsters age 5 years and suddenly make ten to fifthteen 22-26 year olds appear on our list.
But please , stop sticking up for him and Miller.
So pointing the finger squarely at mentally soft senior players who have continually let us down over 8-10 years is sticking up for Wallace and Miller :rollin.
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But please , stop sticking up for him and Miller.
Excuse me, but I'll say what I like ::)
If I come out and say let’s tank games, like I did last year, I would be hounded down and shot like I justifiably was.
Any sport, whether it’s playing lawn bowls, is about winning. And as soon as you have another mindset, like tanking games, you get what you deserve.
But, to me, Wallace’s biggest mistake was to say that you don’t have to bottom out to improve.
I think he’s found out in this competition, it does pay to lose.
The ethics of that are another issue.
Hindsight’s another factor. At the time, I might have gone for Franklin instead of Tambo. But now thinking about it I probably would have liked Cameron Wood. But there’s nothing to suggest Tambo still won’t be a good choice in a couple of years.
But the thing about this is that at the time, Wallace was universally applauded for these decisions by the majority of us. Do we not take any responsibility for this at all? Or do we just pass the buck and start undermining the club from every angle like we’ve seen here?
Well, I’m not going to. And whether that’s a decision that will bite me on the bum, I will live with it. But I’m damn sure I’m not going to run from my mistakes, start blaming others for a situation which I was fully supportive of myself.
So I’m saying to Jack, Bully and all you other weaklings, what do you say to that? Was there never a time you were supportive of the structure in the last couple of years? If so, I don’t believe you.
The same with the club. I never heard any bleating coming from the club up until this year. They were very supportive of what was happening. I thought they understood the situation – if what I read here is correct, they’re just plain stupid like everyone else.
So if any of this garbage about Wallace going this year is true, well I’m going as well. I’ve had enough of weak individuals running and supporting this club. I’m sick of the constant changes which happen from week to week. One week we’re the best things in town, the next you want to bomb the place.
The only thing I wanted was strength and unity behind the appointment of Wallace. To, at long last, see a tenure from beginning to end. No, never going to happen. You’re so blinded by what’s happening at other clubs to see the mountain we had to climb in order to survive in this competition.
There’s lots of things I’ve seen happen, the choices made which I haven’t liked. It’s not all sunshine and lollipops believe me from my end, like most of you think. I don’t enjoy thrashings, having people laugh at poor old Richmond continuously or throwing my good hard-earned money away with no return.
But I did see a light at the end of the tunnel, and now it’s just a train coming the other way. And that train is full of weak, soft-cocked, traitorous, good for nothing, useless supporters and hanger-ons who want to take lots of glory because they have big mouths but very small hearts, no intestinal fortitude, but plenty of hot air.
Well said Moi :clapping
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Jacko you well know that I was one of the first in here to suggest that Miller shouldnt be on the board and not overly happy with his role at Richmond. As for Wallace, Im not hellbent on keeping him or getting rid of him- but if Gary March sacks him then as a lifelong Richmond supporter I wanna know that Gary March has found someone whose gonna stick the money in to pay him out, because as a club we cant afford a $1.2 million payout.
And by the way Sheedy was on radio today he seemed adament that he would be coaching in 2008. Essendon havent given him a commitement so the plot thickens further.
You might find there is alot of money in selling mobile phones ;)
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I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
I wont bash Plough anymore, why ? am over it.
Okay then. Either your promises mean something, or you're a liar and have no credibility.
Which one will it be? The former or the latter?
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word around teh traps is that all the players esp teh young ones have lost faith in terry and just dont respect hijm at all, its teh bulldogs saga all over again. one would have thought terry woudl have learned from his mistakes at the doggies but seems like history is about to repeat itself this yr
stay tuned
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word around teh traps is that all the players esp teh young ones have lost faith in terry and just dont respect hijm at all, its teh bulldogs saga all over again. one would have thought terry woudl have learned from his mistakes at the doggies but seems like history is about to repeat itself this yr
stay tuned
this is what I was afraid of, if hes lost the youngsters hes in big big trouble.
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word around teh traps is that all the players esp teh young ones have lost faith in terry and just dont respect hijm at all, its teh bulldogs saga all over again. one would have thought terry woudl have learned from his mistakes at the doggies but seems like history is about to repeat itself this yr
stay tuned
this is what I was afraid of, if hes lost the youngsters hes in big big trouble.
terry is in trouble then cos he has
and its not half obv, when a team capitulates like we have , its cos the coach has lost the players. imagine the current geelong team was playing us when spud was coaching we woudl have lost by the same margin. when spud lost the players we became non competitive and its happening all over again
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how can someone go from youngsters writing on surveys that they want more time to the coach to what is being rumoured at the moment...i dont get it how it could happen so quick and the reasons for it.
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how can someone go from youngsters writing on surveys that they want more time to the coach to what is being rumoured at the moment...i dont get it how it could happen so quick and the reasons for it.
in that survey, it was discovered that the players esp the young ones wanted terry to be closer to them, spend more time with them hands on, but he is too busy doing all his other poo. now when the group actually gave terry input and said we are not happy, cos you dont spend anough time with us coaching us, one would have thought terry would have woken up , but he hasnt.
its time to go..............terry
ps miller must go too
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this is what I was afraid of, if hes lost the youngsters hes in big big trouble.
and you're using X and perhaps Jack as the sources????
Come on ramps, don't fall for the lines they're spinning
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I can only comment on what gets posted GB. The rumour is Wallace has lost the players. Im not in any position to know if its true or not, but I wanted to pose the question about the output of players at RFC and Coburg and the disparity that seems to be there. I listened to the game today, the boys who supposedly arent happy seemed to be right in the middle of it, trying to create and be a part of victory. Anyway...we will all know in time whether these rumours are true or not. For mine, I just want us to do better coz whats happening at the moment is unacceptable.
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this is what I was afraid of, if hes lost the youngsters hes in big big trouble.
and you're using X and perhaps Jack as the sources????
Come on ramps, don't fall for the lines they're spinning
i never said jack was my source.
i have never met jack, yes we communicate at times but he is not behind what i say so lay off his back gorgon bennett
look at the boys performance and body language and use ur head. its not hard to notice when a coach has lost the players and lost the plot and terry fits it perfectly.
i personally know an uncle of one of our players who i will not mention and can tell you now that the players have had enough of terry, not every player, but 90% of the players!
and the way they are non performing is proof of this
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
our list is not as bad as ppl think
yes we are down on some players but we have quality kids in our team that arre better than what we are seeing
i dont buy this bs that we have a poor list. in the end you have 22 v 22 on the park and if all 22 put in you at least get a spirited effort. and we have drafted very skillfull young kids, all rated very well in their draft analysis, but we rarel see these kids show what they are made of because they are not being played in their rightful positions and are being allowed to play their natural game. they have to put up with terrys bs plan which no one seems to kno wwhat it is.
and dont say its a run and carry game plan because we dont play that way but gees, coburg sure do. maybe andy collins should take over from terry because he sure knows how to get a young list to play(coburg are teh youngest vfl side iirc)
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Andy Collins seems to be doing a sensational job at the moment with the kids. What I liked today was the response in particular from our young kids when Casey came back at them. 3 of our young guys linked up to see JR goal and basically finish the game.
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i never said jack was my source.
i have never met jack, yes we communicate at times but he is not behind what i say so lay off his back gorgon bennett
I never said Jack was your source, either, and I don't assume he is behind what you say. Quite obviously I was saying that you, and perhaps jack, were the sources ramps was using.
How can you debate an issue with someone who cannot comprehend the point you are making?
This time I can rightly assume you meant to call me "gorgon". Once may be an accident, but not twice. I have given the serpents their instructions ..."stay tuned"
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
Exactly HB. We are paying for past mistakes especially 5-9 years ago.
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And the mistakes for the past 2 years as well MT ::)
Good example is that the players wanted less meetings this year and more of Terry coaching.This is fact, not rumour, not here say, just facts.
Can tell you players arent happy with a few things..
Hey but not bagging plough.When hasnt got a job he will soon learn by his mistakes.
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i never said jack was my source.
i have never met jack, yes we communicate at times but he is not behind what i say so lay off his back gorgon bennett
I never said Jack was your source, either, and I don't assume he is behind what you say. Quite obviously I was saying that you, and perhaps jack, were the sources ramps was using.
How can you debate an issue with someone who cannot comprehend the point you are making?
This time I can rightly assume you meant to call me "gorgon". Once may be an accident, but not twice. I have given the serpents their instructions ..."stay tuned"
everyone on this forum knows im the worst typist ever!
i contually tyoe teh instead of the and continually make spelling errors , not cos i cant spell, i just canttype properly
if you get upset cos i typed gorgon instead of gorden for the 2nd time, i suggest you get a box of kleenex and toughen up you sook!
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
Exactly HB. We are paying for past mistakes especially 5-9 years ago.
thats a poor excuse mt, and one that does not wash with me anymore.
just excuses . when u have 22 players out there having a dip , u get better reuslts no matter how ones list is.
its our game plan not our list. we are and always too damn slow out of defence
we have no idea how to kick score against a flood
we have no idea how to kick the ball inside 50
when the opposition kick out they always go coast to coat with too much ease and we cannot do it once with success
we are always reactive , never pro active
its not teh list, its the set ups, structures and game plan
its the coach! terry wallace has bluffed nearly everyone, he is a total non coach and dare i say it, he is worse than spud!
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And the mistakes for the past 2 years as well MT ::)
Good example is that the players wanted less meetings this year and more of Terry coaching.This is fact, not rumour, not here say, just facts.
Can tell you players arent happy with a few things..
Hey but not bagging plough.When hasnt got a job he will soon learn by his mistakes.
he should have learned from his mistakes from doggyland, but he hasnt
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It really doesn't say a lot either for the young players. But then I don't think that is just restricted to the football field. Young people these days (apologies to those on this forum) expect everything to be dished out to them on a silver platter. A little bit of hard work practically kills them. But back to the footy players, despite what they may think of Terry, is it really fair for us supporters to put up with a player revolt, especially seeing half of them have only played a handful of games. On the other hand, I do agree that Terry should cut out the media stuff and concentrate on his players - then they can't use that as excuse!
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wce players absolutely love and will die for woosha
when will we ecver get a coach that has that is respected that way
i guess we wont until we have a coach that will do the same for his players
but we havent we have a coach who is all about himself
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Have we ever had anyone in that category? More so in the last 26 years?
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And the mistakes for the past 2 years as well MT ::)
Good example is that the players wanted less meetings this year and more of Terry coaching.This is fact, not rumour, not here say, just facts.
Can tell you players arent happy with a few things..
Hey but not bagging plough.When hasnt got a job he will soon learn by his mistakes.
When the players start acting like professional footballers on $$$ Jack and not make little league errors I'll then feel sorry for them :nopity. But of cause they are faultless and don't have to take responsibilty for their own form at Richmond ::).
ps. Never said mistakes haven't been made over the last 2 years ::). I've said before I wouldn't coach and train the list the same way as Plough. I would be stricter first of all. But the shocking state of our list is due to the hole in the middle of it. That hole is a legacy of our recruiting 5-9 years ago. Some people can't face that fact.
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
Exactly HB. We are paying for past mistakes especially 5-9 years ago.
thats a poor excuse mt, and one that does not wash with me anymore.
just excuses . when u have 22 players out there having a dip , u get better reuslts no matter how ones list is.
its our game plan not our list. we are and always too damn slow out of defence
we have no idea how to kick score against a flood
we have no idea how to kick the ball inside 50
when the opposition kick out they always go coast to coat with too much ease and we cannot do it once with success
we are always reactive , never pro active
its not teh list, its the set ups, structures and game plan
its the coach! terry wallace has bluffed nearly everyone, he is a total non coach and dare i say it, he is worse than spud!
Check out Moi's thread. We have everyone on here saying we have no A-grade players and only 4-7 Tigers who would get a game at a top club with Joel the only senior player who everyone agreed upon yet the problem isn't our list ???. People forget the opposition will also have 22 players having a dip. So if both sides are having a dip what wins is class and talent.
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Supposing they did give Wallace the flick at the end of year, or before? Who then in their right mind would put their hand up to take over?
Here's another thing. Jack has talked about getting Richmond people at Richmond. Fair enough. But where are all the Richmond people at the moment - at other clubs! Sheeds, Malthouse, Bond, Cameron, Campbell etc.
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
Exactly HB. We are paying for past mistakes especially 5-9 years ago.
thats a poor excuse mt, and one that does not wash with me anymore.
just excuses . when u have 22 players out there having a dip , u get better reuslts no matter how ones list is.
its our game plan not our list. we are and always too damn slow out of defence
we have no idea how to kick score against a flood
we have no idea how to kick the ball inside 50
when the opposition kick out they always go coast to coat with too much ease and we cannot do it once with success
we are always reactive , never pro active
its not teh list, its the set ups, structures and game plan
its the coach! terry wallace has bluffed nearly everyone, he is a total non coach and dare i say it, he is worse than spud!
Check out Moi's thread. We have everyone on here saying we have no A-grade players and only 4-7 Tigers who would get a game at a top club with Joel the only senior player who everyone agreed upon yet the problem isn't our list ???. People forget the opposition will also have 22 players having a dip. So if both sides are having a dip what wins is class and talent.
not always mt, we beat adeklaide last yr, and what won 10 games v sides that are all "better " than us, but why did we win, cos we had more contributors on the park.
our list is meant to be better this yr than last yr but we cant get close to a win and wont. nothing to do with the list, its all about attitude, the younger players are better skiled than our more mature ones, no wonder why th eopposition let tiv touch the ball as he destroys it most of the time
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Supposing they did give Wallace the flick at the end of year, or before? Who then in their right mind would put their hand up to take over?
Here's another thing. Jack has talked about getting Richmond people at Richmond. Fair enough. But where are all the Richmond people at the moment - at other clubs! Sheeds, Malthouse, Bond, Cameron, Campbell etc.
malthouse is at th epies, sheeds at the bombers(not for long) and many other ex tiger are not at tigerland because terry either kicked them out and/or wont let them back in
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Says who? On what authority do you get your info from?
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Says who? On what authority do you get your info from?
shhhhhhhhhh
u can hear it in th ewind if you listen carefully enough
authority, i hate that word :-)
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You'll probably find it's just flatulence. :lol
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You'll probably find it's just flatulence. :lol
but whose flatulence is the question?
anyway if you really wanna know , you have my number
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Why the secrecy? Just come out and say it to everyone! Or is it just gossip?
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This time I can rightly assume you meant to call me "gorgon". Once may be an accident, but not twice. I have given the serpents their instructions ..."stay tuned"
everyone on this forum knows im the worst typist ever!
i contually tyoe teh instead of the and continually make spelling errors , not cos i cant spell, i just canttype properly
if you get upset cos i typed gorgon instead of gorden for the 2nd time, i suggest you get a box of kleenex and toughen up you sook!
Upset? A sook? It was a matter of fact response with an attempt at humour thrown in.
By the way, you have the saem amoumr of vrains as that littel kotty.
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Supposing they did give Wallace the flick at the end of year, or before? Who then in their right mind would put their hand up to take over?
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Exactly.
That would be the path of madness.
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Males typing is hysterical. Hubby is a classic. "Where's c?" he asks. How many of you can touch type?
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Why the secrecy? Just come out and say it to everyone! Or is it just gossip?
X's source was his brother's brother.
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we have the worst list in the comp , that is why we are stuffed
if tw had lost the players we woule be losing by 157 every week..
it all comes back to recruiting...
Exactly HB. We are paying for past mistakes especially 5-9 years ago.
thats a poor excuse mt, and one that does not wash with me anymore.
just excuses . when u have 22 players out there having a dip , u get better reuslts no matter how ones list is.
its our game plan not our list. we are and always too damn slow out of defence
we have no idea how to kick score against a flood
we have no idea how to kick the ball inside 50
when the opposition kick out they always go coast to coat with too much ease and we cannot do it once with success
we are always reactive , never pro active
its not teh list, its the set ups, structures and game plan
its the coach! terry wallace has bluffed nearly everyone, he is a total non coach and dare i say it, he is worse than spud!
Check out Moi's thread. We have everyone on here saying we have no A-grade players and only 4-7 Tigers who would get a game at a top club with Joel the only senior player who everyone agreed upon yet the problem isn't our list ???. People forget the opposition will also have 22 players having a dip. So if both sides are having a dip what wins is class and talent.
not always mt, we beat adeklaide last yr, and what won 10 games v sides that are all "better " than us, but why did we win, cos we had more contributors on the park.
our list is meant to be better this yr than last yr but we cant get close to a win and wont. nothing to do with the list, its all about attitude, the younger players are better skiled than our more mature ones, no wonder why th eopposition let tiv touch the ball as he destroys it most of the time
Don't mention those two grubbers and one lace out pass to a Port player in the space of 5 minutes when we were still in the game :help :scream
Most of our younger guys have improved. Not yet to the standard we need them to be but they have improved. The problem is our senior players have been out of form or got worse or are injured :help. Joel is the only senior player who has played consistently to the level he was playing last year. Even with our senior players in "form" and their attitude in gear we still only won 2 games last year against top 8 sides and one of them was only Collingwood. The other was outsmarting the Crows who outsmarted themselves.
We also still got pumped by 100 points plus three times.
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Its common knowledge whats going on behind the scences at punt road ;)
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Why the secrecy? Just come out and say it to everyone! Or is it just gossip?
X's source was his brother's brother.
maybe it was your mother ;)
in anycase i have emailed my info to relevant members here, shame ur an %^&&^%^$%$ and will never knowIts common knowledge whats going on behind the scences at punt road ;)
seems like we all know except gorgon
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Its common knowledge whats going on behind the scences at punt road ;)
That's what we're afraid of. Same old same old :whistle.
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But please , stop sticking up for him and Miller.
So if any of this garbage about Wallace going this year is true, well I’m going as well.
:cheers
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What these rumours show is that this Club has learnt absolutely nothing in the last 25 years - NOTHING!
We are our own worst enemy. Why ??? because we just don't seem to get it.
To the supposedly faceless people behind the scenes who are supposedly making "waves" to change things - sorry been there done that and we just end up where we have always been; in the poohhouse!
I am sick to death of ego driven cowards - who posture and manoeuvre to suit their own purposes and ultimelately think they are bigger than this club, bleat that they have the CLub's best interest at heart when the only thing that seems remotely close to thier hearts are their egos.
Yes we are having a crap year, yes I am a peeed off as everyone else but to implode again like we've always done is not the answer. Never has been never will be.
When the hell will we ever learn :banghead :banghead
Excuse me, but I'll say what I like ::)
If I come out and say let’s tank games, like I did last year, I would be hounded down and shot like I justifiably was.
Any sport, whether it’s playing lawn bowls, is about winning. And as soon as you have another mindset, like tanking games, you get what you deserve.
But, to me, Wallace’s biggest mistake was to say that you don’t have to bottom out to improve.
I think he’s found out in this competition, it does pay to lose.
The ethics of that are another issue.
Hindsight’s another factor. At the time, I might have gone for Franklin instead of Tambo. But now thinking about it I probably would have liked Cameron Wood. But there’s nothing to suggest Tambo still won’t be a good choice in a couple of years.
But the thing about this is that at the time, Wallace was universally applauded for these decisions by the majority of us. Do we not take any responsibility for this at all? Or do we just pass the buck and start undermining the club from every angle like we’ve seen here?
Well, I’m not going to. And whether that’s a decision that will bite me on the bum, I will live with it. But I’m damn sure I’m not going to run from my mistakes, start blaming others for a situation which I was fully supportive of myself.
So I’m saying to Jack, Bully and all you other weaklings, what do you say to that? Was there never a time you were supportive of the structure in the last couple of years? If so, I don’t believe you.
The same with the club. I never heard any bleating coming from the club up until this year. They were very supportive of what was happening. I thought they understood the situation – if what I read here is correct, they’re just plain stupid like everyone else.
So if any of this garbage about Wallace going this year is true, well I’m going as well. I’ve had enough of weak individuals running and supporting this club. I’m sick of the constant changes which happen from week to week. One week we’re the best things in town, the next you want to bomb the place.
The only thing I wanted was strength and unity behind the appointment of Wallace. To, at long last, see a tenure from beginning to end. No, never going to happen. You’re so blinded by what’s happening at other clubs to see the mountain we had to climb in order to survive in this competition.
There’s lots of things I’ve seen happen, the choices made which I haven’t liked. It’s not all sunshine and lollipops believe me from my end, like most of you think. I don’t enjoy thrashings, having people laugh at poor old Richmond continuously or throwing my good hard-earned money away with no return.
But I did see a light at the end of the tunnel, and now it’s just a train coming the other way. And that train is full of weak, soft-cocked, traitorous, good for nothing, useless supporters and hanger-ons who want to take lots of glory because they have big mouths but very small hearts, no intestinal fortitude, but plenty of hot air.
Well said Moi :clapping
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You might find there is alot of money in selling mobile phones ;)
Speaking of egos ::)
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Perhaps one idea the club should investigate is to ask members who post on websites to provide their real details, so we can tell them to well and truly f*ck off and find another club to be destructive towards, rather than use the internet and the RFC to feed their own egos. I find it funny that people that complain about the jobs for the boys mentality at footy clubs p*ss and whine when their very own "job for the boy" privelige is removed. for the past 6 months this site has been nothing more than a vehicle for certain people to push their own agenda.
A clique of the rolling eyes brigade has emerged ::), which quite frankly make this site impossible to enjoy anymore. I almost feel like braving the other sites just to get away from the repetitive garbage and roid rage attacks that spew out daily, weekly, monthly on this site. And when anyone disagrees with the loudest mouths on this site, the only comeback is threats of violence...how p*ssweak is that? :scream
As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
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Perhaps one idea the club should investigate is to ask members who post on websites to provide their real details, so we can tell them to well and truly f*ck off and find another club to be destructive towards, rather than use the internet and the RFC to feed their own egos. I find it funny that people that complain about the jobs for the boys mentality at footy clubs p*ss and whine when their very own "job for the boy" privelige is removed. for the past 6 months this site has been nothing more than a vehicle for certain people to push their own agenda.
A clique of the rolling eyes brigade has emerged ::), which quite frankly make this site impossible to enjoy anymore. I almost feel like braving the other sites just to get away from the repetitive garbage and roid rage attacks that spew out daily, weekly, monthly on this site. And when anyone disagrees with the loudest mouths on this site, the only comeback is threats of violence...how p*ssweak is that? :scream
As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
I havent read any violent threats yet but have noticed quite a number of personal sledging Fwoy.
I couldnt access this site last night due to a server going down so i had a look at PRE and also i think it was yellow and black.com and one of them actually had a permanent thread which was solely a rumour file and the same thing going on there.
I think people should be able to comment without resorting to violence or name calling etc.
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Perhaps one idea the club should investigate is to ask members who post on websites to provide their real details, so we can tell them to well and truly f*ck off and find another club to be destructive towards, rather than use the internet and the RFC to feed their own egos. I find it funny that people that complain about the jobs for the boys mentality at footy clubs p*ss and whine when their very own "job for the boy" privelige is removed. for the past 6 months this site has been nothing more than a vehicle for certain people to push their own agenda.
A clique of the rolling eyes brigade has emerged ::), which quite frankly make this site impossible to enjoy anymore. I almost feel like braving the other sites just to get away from the repetitive garbage and roid rage attacks that spew out daily, weekly, monthly on this site. And when anyone disagrees with the loudest mouths on this site, the only comeback is threats of violence...how p*ssweak is that? :scream
As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
Good on you, Fwoysie, getting too much for me as well, hence my week vacation lol
Couldn't let this one slip though without saying, well said!
:thumbsup
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As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
I'm right there Fwoy.
One other thing......when a senior player refuses to play in the magoos and chooses to retire,FHO sets a winning example.
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what if teh rfc have finally realised like many of us uncluding me, that terry wallace cant coach.
what if these rumours are not rumours and are true
isnt it funny and ironic that when spud knew he would not be our coach anymore we had our worst yr ever and kept on losing
the parallels are so similar, maybe wallce knows he is in the gun and is coaching accordingly
who knows but it does make you wonder and ask questions
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Perhaps one idea the club should investigate is to ask members who post on websites to provide their real details, so we can tell them to well and truly f*ck off and find another club to be destructive towards, rather than use the internet and the RFC to feed their own egos. I find it funny that people that complain about the jobs for the boys mentality at footy clubs p*ss and whine when their very own "job for the boy" privelige is removed. for the past 6 months this site has been nothing more than a vehicle for certain people to push their own agenda.
A clique of the rolling eyes brigade has emerged ::), which quite frankly make this site impossible to enjoy anymore. I almost feel like braving the other sites just to get away from the repetitive garbage and roid rage attacks that spew out daily, weekly, monthly on this site. And when anyone disagrees with the loudest mouths on this site, the only comeback is threats of violence...how p*ssweak is that? :scream
As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
Thank-you! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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It is a relief to read the above posts of Fwoy and William Powell. There is no doubt that they are making a lot of sense.Blind Freddy could see that.
I've been caught up recently in squabbling or jousting with two of the people they have been partly referring to. I know that I'm wasting my time, and that it doesn't achieve anything.All I'm doing is lowering myself to their level. My defence is that I got so frustrated with what they were saying,which has been so repetitious, ego-driven, and destructive, that I felt I had to say something.
Consequently, I'll be shutting up from now on.
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Hey Gordon, if I am one of the two you are referring too, I have shut up, Couldnt care less anymore.
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It is a relief to read the above posts of Fwoy and William Powell. There is no doubt that they are making a lot of sense.Blind Freddy could see that.
I've been caught up recently in squabbling or jousting with two of the people they have been partly referring to. I know that I'm wasting my time, and that it doesn't achieve anything.All I'm doing is lowering myself to their level. My defence is that I got so frustrated with what they were saying,which has been so repetitious, ego-driven, and destructive, that I felt I had to say something.
Consequently, I'll be shutting up from now on.
"lowering yourself to their level"
hey gorgon, what makes you think your better than me or anyone in this world,
tell you what, you are weak and cant accept reality, and if you think your are better than me your are wrong, your are not even worthy of eating my faeces!
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what if teh rfc have finally realised like many of us uncluding me, that terry wallace cant coach.
what if these rumours are not rumours and are true
isnt it funny and ironic that when spud knew he would not be our coach anymore we had our worst yr ever and kept on losing
the parallels are so similar, maybe wallce knows he is in the gun and is coaching accordingly
who knows but it does make you wonder and ask questions
ur the biggest poo talker on the board mate.
LOL@the crap that flows from ur mouth...so now why the neutral post (as above)
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what if teh rfc have finally realised like many of us uncluding me, that terry wallace cant coach.
what if these rumours are not rumours and are true
isnt it funny and ironic that when spud knew he would not be our coach anymore we had our worst yr ever and kept on losing
the parallels are so similar, maybe wallce knows he is in the gun and is coaching accordingly
who knows but it does make you wonder and ask questions
ur the biggest poo talker on the board mate.
LOL@the crap that flows from ur mouth...so now why the neutral post (as above)
well done champ, once again the wise one has spoken, i worship you , you are the man :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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I just read this thread for the first time, and it scares me.
xXx, if you wanna brag about your sex life, there are forums around for that type of thing.
Similarly, if you'd like an audience for your neanderthal attitudes to biology, you should be able to find them on those same sites.
I do not believe for one minute that Terry has lost the youngsters. There is nothing wrong with pontificating on some of the things that happen at the inner sanctum of the club. Making stuff up for dramatic effect however is just ridiculous and as Moi pointed out actually hurt the club.
Finally, I am shocked that GB would offer you an olive branch X, in the form of a pretty clever joke, and you just slap him back in the face with it. Perhaps you didn't even get the joke!
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What these rumours show is that this Club has learnt absolutely nothing in the last 25 years - NOTHING!
We are our own worst enemy. Why ??? because we just don't seem to get it.
To the supposedly faceless people behind the scenes who are supposedly making "waves" to change things - sorry been there done that and we just end up where we have always been; in the poohhouse!
I am sick to death of ego driven cowards - who posture and manoeuvre to suit their own purposes and ultimelately think they are bigger than this club, bleat that they have the CLub's best interest at heart when the only thing that seems remotely close to thier hearts are their egos.
Yes we are having a crap year, yes I am a peeed off as everyone else but to implode again like we've always done is not the answer. Never has been never will be.
When the hell will we ever learn :banghead :banghead
Well said WP and fwoy.
If we want to know what the cancer is that has infected our club for the past 25 years it is these faceless tossers on the periphery of the Club who are snipers. They get their jollies picking club officials off. They think because they are a member of a coterie group they are god. I've told the story before of a club official in the late 80's talking to our U19 players in the rooms and some of these losers at the back of the crowd watching whispering absolute crap about this club official (who I knew). We had another one these idiots who was a member of the Shepparton RFC members group tell people in the crowd a couple of years ago at a St Kilda game that Richo had in his contract how the forward line will set-up with him the centre of attention. Who needs "supporters" like these :banghead
The frightening thing is if these rumours are indeed fact as claimed then the board has learnt nothing from the past continues to be spineless and basically the players run our Club. Worse still is some of the changes rumoured have a number of "ifs" and the Club will be even more a laughing stock if these "ifs" don't come off. That's how we ended up with Spud in the first place :scream.
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beleive what u want dc. but it seems many things have gone way over your head. go back to primary school , start afresh
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Perhaps one idea the club should investigate is to ask members who post on websites to provide their real details, so we can tell them to well and truly f*ck off and find another club to be destructive towards, rather than use the internet and the RFC to feed their own egos. I find it funny that people that complain about the jobs for the boys mentality at footy clubs p*ss and whine when their very own "job for the boy" privelige is removed. for the past 6 months this site has been nothing more than a vehicle for certain people to push their own agenda.
A clique of the rolling eyes brigade has emerged ::), which quite frankly make this site impossible to enjoy anymore. I almost feel like braving the other sites just to get away from the repetitive garbage and roid rage attacks that spew out daily, weekly, monthly on this site. And when anyone disagrees with the loudest mouths on this site, the only comeback is threats of violence...how p*ssweak is that? :scream
As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
Well said Fwoy :clapping
If we want to know what the cancer is that has infected our club for the past 25 years it is these faceless tossers on the periphery of the Club who are snipers. They get their jollies picking club officials off. They think because they are a member of a coterie group they are god.
Yeah I don't get that - they think because they kick a few $$ more a season than a person who puts their hard earned $ down for 1 membership that they have some right to do as they please. They shouldn't and they don't.
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Yeah I don't get that - they think because they kick a few $$ more a season than a person who puts their hard earned $ down for 1 membership that they have some right to do as they please. They shouldn't and they don't.
Unfortunately, going by the last 20 years or so, it seems they do.
Hopefully, not any more.
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Unfortunately, going by the last 20 years or so, it seems they do.
Hopefully, not any more.
We can only hope Fish - we can only hope. But when you are dealing with out of control egos.... ::)
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At the moment the rumours are just that - rumours! Just happened to start earlier this year :-\
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But the shocking state of our list is due to the hole in the middle of it. That hole is a legacy of our recruiting 5-9 years ago. Some people can't face that fact.
I don't think it's that people can't face that fact MT. I think it's more that they don't UNDERSTAND that fact, they can't think with it, they can't get their heads around that idea as a "WHY".
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Perhaps one idea the club should investigate is to ask members who post on websites to provide their real details, so we can tell them to well and truly f*ck off and find another club to be destructive towards, rather than use the internet and the RFC to feed their own egos. I find it funny that people that complain about the jobs for the boys mentality at footy clubs p*ss and whine when their very own "job for the boy" privelige is removed. for the past 6 months this site has been nothing more than a vehicle for certain people to push their own agenda.
A clique of the rolling eyes brigade has emerged ::), which quite frankly make this site impossible to enjoy anymore. I almost feel like braving the other sites just to get away from the repetitive garbage and roid rage attacks that spew out daily, weekly, monthly on this site. And when anyone disagrees with the loudest mouths on this site, the only comeback is threats of violence...how p*ssweak is that? :scream
As has been pointed out ad-nauseum...no-one with four functioning brain cells would touch our club if we were to sack Terry Wallace. Who the f*ck runs the joint...the inmates or the warden? I could not care less if the players don't like him...the players don't perform and have no right to have an opinion...they have a 10 year window to make the most of this game...if they "choose" to tank to get a new coach, they are DUMBER than I thought, and deserve to all get the arrse! To paraphrase what the banner said on the weekend...it is an HONOUR to wear the Richmond jumper!! If some 19 year old d*ckhead has his feelings hurt and can't perform, he does not deserve to wear the jumper. Pandering to such actions is merely "jobs for the boys". :banghead
Been awhile since iv'e seen you Fwoy, really good post :thumbsup
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Would think the writing is on the wall with the resignation of Daniher today, means that Cameron will get released from him contract at end of year, stay tuned ;)
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Would think the writing is on the wall with the resignation of Daniher today, means that Cameron will get released from him contract at end of year, stay tuned ;)
See my other post Jack - Caro is saying that Melb are going to try and stich Cameron up to a multi year deal.
And if I can give an opinion and it's just mine - I don't think Greg Miller is going anywhere - "reduced role in recruiting" yeah perhaps but going - I don't think so
As I said just my opnion
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do we really want cameron?
like really , who the hell has he recruited to be the one to take over!
i look at melbournes list and laugh, they have nothing and gaddy lyon better wake up and realise that if the tigers recruited badly then what the f did melb do
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Hey WP. dont shoot the messenger, only tell you what i was told.
I didnt have lunch with him and I am not chasing him , lol
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Hey WP. dont shoot the messenger, only tell you what i was told.
I didnt have lunch with him and I am not chasing him , lol
So if he doesn't come to Richmond, does that mean you got it wrong :shh
Hopefully you're wrong about all the rest of it as well :pray
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Hey WP. dont shoot the messenger, only tell you what i was told.
I didnt have lunch with him and I am not chasing him , lol
So if he doesn't come to Richmond, does that mean you got it wrong :shh
Hopefully you're wrong about all the rest of it as well :pray
I dont make things up Moi irrelevant what you think. ::)
Only tell you what I am told, if you dont like it ,bad luck, not my problem
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Hey WP. dont shoot the messenger, only tell you what i was told.
I didnt have lunch with him and I am not chasing him , lol
Not shooting anyone Jack
It was just Caro's article this morning was that Daniher would fall on his sword (granted he did it 6 weeks earlier than she said he would ;D) and she was right on that so I wondering how right she is going to be on the Cameron scenario thats all :thumbsup
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Whats so good about Craig Cameron?
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Beats me, his dad played for Richmond in the 60,s
Moi would remember that ?
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Beats me, his dad played for Richmond in the 60,s
Moi would remember that ?
That would be Barry Cameron wouldn't it Jack?
Barry Cameron: 1959-1966, 96 games, 21 goals. 184cms, 87kgs. Book says great wet weather player
Gee I've got all the stats this evening ;D
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Beats me, his dad played for Richmond in the 60,s
Moi would remember that ?
So would you lol
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Beats me, his dad played for Richmond in the 60,s
Moi would remember that ?
That would be Barry Cameron wouldn't it Jack?
Barry Cameron: 1959-1966, 96 games, 21 goals. 184cms, 87kgs. Book says great wet weather player
Gee I've got all the stats this evening ;D
that is him.
You might find he is a relative of the Clokes ::) ( By marriage)
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Craig Cameron wouldn't find a good tall, even if he was being sat on by one.
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Beats me, his dad played for Richmond in the 60,s
Moi would remember that ?
So would you lol
I dont actually ::)
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that is him.
You might find he is a relative of the Clokes ::) ( By marriage)
Are you sure you're not confusing him with Peter Cameron? The former umpire married David Cloke's sister.
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Beats me, his dad played for Richmond in the 60,s
Moi would remember that ?
So would you lol
I dont actually ::)
Well neither do I - actually! ::)
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that is him.
You might find he is a relative of the Clokes ::) ( By marriage)
Are you sure you're not confusing him with Peter Cameron? The former umpire married David Cloke's sister.
Barry and Peter are cousins ?
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that is him.
You might find he is a relative of the Clokes ::) ( By marriage)
Are you sure you're not confusing him with Peter Cameron? The former umpire married David Cloke's sister.
Barry and Peter are cousins ?
Was Barry Cameron a board member or some kind of an official?
His name does ring a bell, but not as a player - more off field.
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Would there be any chance we'd turn our interest to Neale Daniher himself?
Royal was an assistant under Daniher so there's someone at Punt Rd that Daniher is familiar with while Balmey has made the successful transition from senior coach (coincidentally at Melbourne) to list manager at Collingwood and now Geelong.