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Title: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 19, 2015, 07:58:46 PM
What changes do you want to see against the top of the table Dockers?


For me:
Out: Newman (omitted), Gordon ( omitted)
In: Griff, Dea

Not sure, but they may want to keep both Maric and Hampson in. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Andyy on July 19, 2015, 08:00:53 PM
Out:
Gordon
Maric
Newman
Lambert (unfortunate)

In:
Griffiths
McBean
C. Ellis
Thomas (to free up Martin from doing tough inside mid work - need his disposal outside).
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 19, 2015, 08:06:15 PM
As if
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: lamington on July 19, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
Gordon out and McBean in maybe for his 5 goal haul?
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 08:31:01 PM
Gordon was really bad
Maric looks shot
Newman struggles


I hope lambert and donuts get another go
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Penelope on July 19, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
the change i want to see more than any is a change in their stuffing attitude.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: The Machine on July 19, 2015, 08:44:26 PM
Out - Newman, Gordon & Maric
In - Griff, McBean, Dea
We can't play two lumbering rucks so I would give Maric a spell. We need to play three talls for structure and Dea deserves a run.

One thing is for sure, the above will not happen :-\
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 08:48:22 PM
MatyDea 40 possession... Quits to join the force
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 19, 2015, 08:49:22 PM
Lennon out injured
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Stalin on July 19, 2015, 08:50:32 PM
Ffs
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Heart of Darkness on July 19, 2015, 09:41:09 PM
In- Bean, Griff

Out- Gordon, Maric

As much as I'd love to see Newman out he was actually pretty decent till 3/4 time tonight. We desperately need some potency/ structure up front. Can't possibly play Maric and Hampson together again and tbh and Maric looked very ordinary tonight.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 19, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Don't care who comes in just want to see Newman out

Was awful again today.

And if fit Griffiths has to come in

Outs: Newman, Gordon,

Ins: Griffiths, Knights
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: torch on July 19, 2015, 10:26:44 PM
In:
Conca, Griffiths, McBean

Out:
Newman, Maric, Lambert
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Jonesracing82 on July 19, 2015, 10:40:55 PM
in = ruthlessness to sense a kill & put a side away = mongrel
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Swooper on July 20, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
In: Dea, Knights, McBean and Griffiths
Out: Newman (can't get the ball and bad kick), Batchelor (never has been andnever will be a good decision maker), Maric (needs a rest); Gordon (just no good at present)
I think the comment re Thomas is worth considering. I'm not sure McDonna will make it. Menadue better?
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 20, 2015, 02:32:43 AM
Lennon out injured
Groin? Treated on the bench late in the last quarter.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 20, 2015, 07:18:35 AM
Lennon out injured
Groin? Treated on the bench late in the last quarter.

Will miss 2 weeks
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 20, 2015, 07:59:47 AM
OUT OUT OUT, NEWMAN, NEWMAN, NEWMAN
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: eliminator on July 20, 2015, 08:15:53 AM
Lennon out injured
Groin? Treated on the bench late in the last quarter.

Will miss 2 weeks

If correct very bad news.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Jobba on July 20, 2015, 09:42:36 AM
Lennon out injured
Groin? Treated on the bench late in the last quarter.

Will miss 2 weeks

According to Dimma it was cramp and there were no injuries. Whether that turns out to be the full extent of it we will see.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 20, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
Outs
Lennon (inj)
Newman (too slow, no upside, no team ethic, lazy)
Gordon
McDonough
Maric (Rest)

Ins:
Dea
Knights
Griffo
Thomas (on ball)
McBean
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 20, 2015, 01:21:17 PM
Maric rest. LMAO
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: big tone on July 20, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Outs- Hampson, Newman, Gordon

Ins- Dea, Knights, McBean
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Jonah Vark on July 20, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
Outs- Hampson


If there's one match Hampson definitely should play in, it's this one. Sandilands will smash Maric.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: big tone on July 20, 2015, 10:38:20 PM
Outs- Hampson


If there's one match Hampson definitely should play in, it's this one. Sandilands will smash Maric.
Sandi will smash whoever we put against him. May as well have an extra runner and try and read his ruck work. Just like Hawthorn did.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Andyy on July 20, 2015, 11:45:59 PM
^ just like we did when we played Freo over there.

However at this stage I don't see Maric as a better player than Hampson. And at his age he has very little scope for improvement.

Hampson needs to take the main role from here on out and we need to get a new ruckman at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2015, 03:10:13 AM
The Barometer - Round 17
Herald-Sun
July 21, 2015


RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK:
Tough game to assess — most of the Tigers were pretty good until nearly all of them disappeared in the final quarter. Matt McDonough and Nathan Gordon are the two most vulnerable — McDonough was subbed off with eight disposals at three-quarter time and Gordon touched it only four times after coming on. Damien Hardwick was cagey when asked why Dustin Martin spent time in the rooms in the third quarter.

ON THE CUSP: Another win to the VFL side with some big numbers from players hoping for a shot at senior level. Matt Dea has been in good form for weeks and had 35 disposals and 12 marks, Chris Knights cranked up his return from injury with 28 touches and Liam McBean kicked five goals. Reece Conca played a half in his return from a long-term hamstring injury and collected 15 disposals.

AL PATON’S FORECAST: The Tigers had three weeks of winnable games to cement a position in the top eight and they came through with three wins — although none were entirely convincing. The second and third quarters against St Kilda were as good as Richmond has played all year, then they totally stopped. But the positive is they set up a 52-point three-quarter time lead with a team featuring Matt McDonough, Ben Lennon (three goals), Kane Lambert and Shaun Hampson. The tests get tougher now, starting with Fremantle at the MCG. The Tigers started Freo’s mid-year slump with a stunning win in Perth five weeks ago. Repeat that and they can start seriously thinking about top four.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/travis-cloke-hayden-ballantyne-injured-bradley-hill-joel-selwood-drew-petrie-among-potential-round-16-inclusions/story-fnect155-1227449030516
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: eliminator on July 21, 2015, 07:05:43 AM
Unless Lennon is dropped he will be playing against Freo. Nothing in media reports about him being injured.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: WA Tiger on July 21, 2015, 08:27:32 AM
Newman, McDonough and Gordon out.

Dea, Knights and McBean in.

But he will probably play Conca, Lloyd and Newman.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 21, 2015, 01:02:40 PM
Like it or not (and most don't like it) Newman isn't going to get dropped so why bother even discussing it

And yes I know I said on the weekend he had to go but reality is they won't do it unless he is injured
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2015, 02:03:23 PM
In the mix: round 17

Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
July 21, 2015


RICHMOND

If key forward Ben Griffiths is available to face Fremantle after a two-week shoulder injury, he demands selection. The 23-year-old can come into the team as a dangerous forward but also provide ruck support, which leaves the Tigers with an interesting selection dilemma. Do they play both ruckmen, Shaun Hampson and Ivan Maric, or drop one? While it seemed unfathomable that Hampson would push Maric out of the team two weeks ago, he has taken on the No.1 ruck role the past two weeks and stood up and may be the best option against Aaron Sandilands. Then there is young forward Liam McBean, who kicked five goals in the VFL to press his claims as a third tall forward.

If there are further changes, Chris Knights is nearly ready for senior action after three VFL games. He had 28 touches at the weekend. Matt Dea had 35 possessions and 12 marks across half-back and will surely be considered.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-21/in-the-mix-round-17
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: big tone on July 21, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
I really think Knights if he stays fit can change our lineup the most in the coming weeks. We lack a smart roaming forward who can hit up on a lead and can crumb at ground level. He is an extremely smart footballer that is dangerous and that could provide us with an extra few goals a game that can make us compete against the top sides come finals time.
My man Matty Dea is also someone I think that could improve us but it seems clear that DH doesn't rate him. The only way I see him getting picked is if someone in our back line gets injured.

The other ins and outs are just moving witches hats IMO, no real upside in anyone currently not getting a game that is not injured.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: eliminator on July 22, 2015, 07:21:36 AM
Dea, McBean, Astbury, Knights and Arnot have all been playing well in the VFL. All deserve a chance at some stage in the seniors. Dea has been knocking on the door for quite a while. I would bring Dea in at the expense of Newman. I think Knights brings a lot of class and consideration should be given to him playing in the forward line in the absence of Edwards.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 22, 2015, 08:22:26 AM
Dea, McBean, Astbury, Knights and Arnot have all been playing well in the VFL. All deserve a chance at some stage in the seniors. Dea has been knocking on the door for quite a while. I would bring Dea in at the expense of Newman. I think Knights brings a lot of class and consideration should be given to him playing in the forward line in the absence of Edwards.


Agree 100pc
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 22, 2015, 10:30:51 AM
Too soon for Knights in my opinion but I do like the way the club is managing his return having him play only half games or 3/4 games in the twos.
He should stay out of site for atleast another three weeks & possibly come in as a sub against the GC that will give him just enough time to have him warmed up for finals footy as gets three full games of senior footy before finals start.





......secret weapon.  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Stalin on July 22, 2015, 12:31:20 PM
Knights could be the best option for a specialist sub.

Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 22, 2015, 12:36:33 PM
Knights could be the best option for a specialist sub.
I'd use him as the sub against Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Willy on July 22, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
I'd sub him this weekend
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 22, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
Patience.....Let's keep him "the secret" for a few more weeks.  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Lozza on July 22, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
May as well get re-injured playing AFL rather than in the VFL, at least he might make some contribution before he is out injured for an extended period again.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Stalin on July 22, 2015, 01:12:49 PM
Patience.....Let's keep him "the secret" for a few more weeks.  :shh

I was referring to sometime in the future, not specifically the next two games

the sub is a strange position. Someone has to be selected for it
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: lamington on July 22, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
Patience.....Let's keep him "the secret" for a few more weeks.  :shh

I was referring to sometime in the future, not specifically the next two games

the sub is a strange position. Someone has to be selected for it

Matt White?
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Stalin on July 22, 2015, 01:33:45 PM
Patience.....Let's keep him "the secret" for a few more weeks.  :shh

I was referring to sometime in the future, not specifically the next two games

the sub is a strange position. Someone has to be selected for it

Matt White?

white is not very good, but he was fast

IMO the sub needs to have some weapons, like being really fast like white, or quite silky like knights. when everyone is knackered, and a fresh guy comes on it makes an impact. Menadue didnt touch the ball vs. Freo for example, but just his chasing, pace and freshness forced freo into many errors IMO. Yet, ideally Menadue (and C Ellis, Lennon etc. ) would be playing full games, either one or twos. Not this sub rubbish

i think newman or grigg would be terrible options
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Penelope on July 22, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
knights need to start on the ground so you can activate the sub when he gets injured.

you dont want him coming on as the sub then getting injured.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 22, 2015, 01:59:02 PM
knights need to start on the ground so you can activate the sub when he gets injured.

you dont want him coming on as the sub then getting injured.

 :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Yeahright on July 22, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
Lennon out injured

Like Griff was meant to be back against the Saints?

Like it or not (and most don't like it) Newman isn't going to get dropped so why bother even discussing it


Because it's a forum, a place where people discuss things whether they are likely to happen or not?
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 22, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
Because we don't like him? :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2015, 12:26:20 PM
“Hampson will definitely play, Ivan is a fair chance to play and we’ve got Ben Griffiths available also.” - Dimma

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/shaun-hampson-will-take-on-aaron-sandilands-could-have-ivan-maric-ben-griffiths-as-back-up/story-fndv8t7m-1227453630202
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Lozza on July 23, 2015, 12:59:23 PM
If Hamspud and Maric both play then that leaves us seriously slow in our forward 50, came out too quickly against the Saints especially in the last quarter, it was only their constant turnovers which kept us in the game. For mine we should have Hamspud and Griff, purely because Griff is more mobile than Maric and provides more flexibility. Give Maric another rest and bring in say a Knights to provide more spark and class up forward.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 23, 2015, 01:38:36 PM
If Hamspud and Maric both play then that leaves us seriously slow in our forward 50, came out too quickly against the Saints especially in the last quarter, it was only their constant turnovers which kept us in the game. For mine we should have Hamspud and Griff, purely because Griff is more mobile than Maric and provides more flexibility. Give Maric another rest and bring in say a Knights to provide more spark and class up forward.

So just the 2 key forwards in jack and Griff or would you bring in McBean too? Maybe dependant on weather
If Knights is 100% for AFL pace then would be a great addition
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Jonah Vark on July 23, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
We should probably run a book on how long Knights lasts this time.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Lozza on July 23, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
If Hamspud and Maric both play then that leaves us seriously slow in our forward 50, came out too quickly against the Saints especially in the last quarter, it was only their constant turnovers which kept us in the game. For mine we should have Hamspud and Griff, purely because Griff is more mobile than Maric and provides more flexibility. Give Maric another rest and bring in say a Knights to provide more spark and class up forward.

So just the 2 key forwards in jack and Griff or would you bring in McBean too? Maybe dependant on weather
If Knights is 100% for AFL pace then would be a great addition
Looks like its going to be wet and slippery therefore 3 talls won't be a smart move, most damage will happen at ground level so unfortunately the Bean will have to wait another week although he is nimble for his height. Knights or Lloyd need to come in otherwise I cant see us being mobile enough inside 50. If they don't then i cant see where a winning score will come from as  Jack will be heavily marked and Griff at times may be our only tall option in the goal square and honestly i dont think we scare opposition teams too much at the moment (without Titch and Ty missing) with what else we have at our disposal inside 50, odds are Lennon wont kick another 3 (would be a turning point for him if he does). Its going to be tough contested low scoring game where we need to make the most of every opportunity. Would also dearly love to see Dea replace Newman but it just aint going to happen as we all know.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 23, 2015, 03:37:02 PM
Faces leg is stuffed.
Hope we smash him
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: froars on July 23, 2015, 05:03:16 PM
Channel 10 headlines had the headline, "Why are the Tiges roaring with delight?"

I suspect Chris has been picked again :-)
Actually good news about Chocco's cancer - free I think :-)
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Simonator on July 23, 2015, 05:12:34 PM
Chris Knights, not Newman I hope
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 23, 2015, 05:16:58 PM
If Hamspud and Maric both play then that leaves us seriously slow in our forward 50, came out too quickly against the Saints especially in the last quarter, it was only their constant turnovers which kept us in the game. For mine we should have Hamspud and Griff, purely because Griff is more mobile than Maric and provides more flexibility. Give Maric another rest and bring in say a Knights to provide more spark and class up forward.

So just the 2 key forwards in jack and Griff or would you bring in McBean too? Maybe dependant on weather
If Knights is 100% for AFL pace then would be a great addition
Looks like its going to be wet and slippery therefore 3 talls won't be a smart move, most damage will happen at ground level so unfortunately the Bean will have to wait another week although he is nimble for his height. Knights or Lloyd need to come in otherwise I cant see us being mobile enough inside 50. If they don't then i cant see where a winning score will come from as  Jack will be heavily marked and Griff at times may be our only tall option in the goal square and honestly i dont think we scare opposition teams too much at the moment (without Titch and Ty missing) with what else we have at our disposal inside 50, odds are Lennon wont kick another 3 (would be a turning point for him if he does). Its going to be tough contested low scoring game where we need to make the most of every opportunity. Would also dearly love to see Dea replace Newman but it just aint going to happen as we all know.

crap, reminds me of a game a couple of years ago. That was frustrating to sit through. I hope somewhere we can pile on some goals and put them away.
We will already be two men down around the ground with Hampson and Newy so who ever comes in will have to be able to influence the game.
I am not as confident as I was earlier this week.
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: WA Tiger on July 23, 2015, 08:15:11 PM
Newman, McDonough and Gordon out.

Dea, Knights and McBean in.

But he will probably play Conca, Lloyd and Newman.


 :lol...... Conca to follow....
Title: Re: Changes for the Freo game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 23, 2015, 09:01:45 PM

Like it or not (and most don't like it) Newman isn't going to get dropped so why bother even discussing it


Because it's a forum, a place where people discuss things whether they are likely to happen or not?

Silly me should have included one of these

 :sarcasm