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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 30, 2014, 10:08:02 PM
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It's that time of the year when free agent and trade rumours start flying around .....
According to Barrett on the Footy Show:
Jarrad Waite has spoken to North about moving to Arden Street as a free agent in October.
Ryan O'Keefe's manager issued a statement saying O'Keefe is looking to continue his AFL career next year as a free agent at another club.
Lyon said James Frawley has spoken to Chris Scott at Geelong and two other clubs.
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Carlton's Mitch Robinson has put off all contract talks until the end of the year, fuelling speculation he will not be at the Blues in 2015.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/323434864497415
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Ryan O'Keefe's manager issued a statement saying O'Keefe is looking to continue his AFL career next year as a free agent at another club.
I'd look at O'Keefe, a champion. We need strong bodies, who can tackle with great disposal. Better option than Thomas ;D
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Would love O'Keefe for sure, although will be 34 Round 1 next year...
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Out: Thomas
In: O'Keefe
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O'Keefe has zero leadership, should be retiring for the betterment of the younger players.
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O'Keefe> newman
O'Keefe > chapman
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It's that time of the year when free agent and trade rumours start flying around .....
According to Barrett on the Footy Show:
Jarrad Waite has spoken to North about moving to Arden Street as a free agent in October.
Ryan O'Keefe's manager issued a statement saying O'Keefe is looking to continue his AFL career next year as a free agent at another club.
Lyon said James Frawley has spoken to Chris Scott at Geelong and two other clubs.
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Carlton's Mitch Robinson has put off all contract talks until the end of the year, fuelling speculation he will not be at the Blues in 2015.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/323434864497415
Bit rich of Scott after having a cry about motlop
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Waite at norf would be a pee-er
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Seems Dimma is an O'Keefe fan too ;D
From: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-enters-afl-free-agency-debate-says-current-model-is-halfpregnant/story-fni5f9jb-1227008536823
"Hardwick did not agree with Collingwood counterpart Nathan Buckley’s idea of a mid-season draft, but suggested clubs should have the ability to move players until a certain date.
“I don’t think that’s quite necessary either,’’ Hardwick said of the mid-season draft.
“I think from our point of view, our lists shouldn’t be structured until say May 1, so you should have the ability to move players up until a certain date and then it stops.
“For example a guy like Ryan O’Keefe who is sitting there playing at NEAFL level for six months and I’m sitting here going `Geez, I wouldn’t mind Ryan O’Keefe in my side’.
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Seems Dimma is an O'Keefe fan too ;D
From: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-enters-afl-free-agency-debate-says-current-model-is-halfpregnant/story-fni5f9jb-1227008536823
"Hardwick did not agree with Collingwood counterpart Nathan Buckley’s idea of a mid-season draft, but suggested clubs should have the ability to move players until a certain date.
“I don’t think that’s quite necessary either,’’ Hardwick said of the mid-season draft.
“I think from our point of view, our lists shouldn’t be structured until say May 1, so you should have the ability to move players up until a certain date and then it stops.
“For example a guy like Ryan O’Keefe who is sitting there playing at NEAFL level for six months and I’m sitting here going `Geez, I wouldn’t mind Ryan O’Keefe in my side’.
Of course Hardwick wants him. He's a 34 year old who's been playing reserves football all season. Fit's Hardwick's recruiting criteria perfectly.
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Of course Hardwick wants him. He's a 34 year old who's been playing reserves football all season. Fit's Hardwick's recruiting criteria perfectly.
Sorry Dice but can't agree
Would be a good pick up
Far better player than Grigg, Houli, Thomas to name 3
He's a champion player, a gun IMHO and he would offer a lot even at 34
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Of course Hardwick wants him. He's a 34 year old who's been playing reserves football all season. Fit's Hardwick's recruiting criteria perfectly.
Sorry Dice but can't agree
Would be a good pick up
Far better player than Grigg, Houli, Thomas to name 3
He's a champion player, a gun IMHO and he would offer a lot even at 34
drafting a 35 year old. Oh WP you never fail to amaze
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Sorry Dice but can't agree
Would be a good pick up
Far better player than Grigg, Houli, Thomas to name 3
He's a champion player, a gun IMHO and he would offer a lot even at 34
I agree he's been a great player. Hawthorn went real hard after him a few years back but I think that was the time to get him. I bet the hawks aren't interested now.
Must be a reason he's played in the magoos all year ?
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I agree he's been a great player. Hawthorn went real hard after him a few years back but I think that was the time to get him. I bet the hawks aren't interested now.
Must be a reason he's played in the magoos all year ?
Swans bringing through younger mids now. Heard someone on SEN (not sure which show it was :P) say it isn't because he's not good enough but because a player like Parker has gone past him. Also said he'd walk up start at most sides who are outside the top4
Been in the best every week for their ressies jsut can't get a gig
drafting a 35 year old. Oh WP you never fail to amaze
At least get his age right ::) He's 33, turns 34 in January
And BTW he doens't need to be drafted he is unrestricted free agent can go where ever he wants
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Lets go after Tom Mitchell instead. 10 year player as opposed to a 1 year stopgap.
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Lets go after Tom Mitchell instead. 10 year player as opposed to a 1 year stopgap.
But wheres the logic in that? ::)
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Agree O'Keefe is a fantastic player but he is on the wrong side of 30. We need younger players that are capable of development. The side at the moment is a bit off being a premiership winning side.
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lmao at some people. talk about all over the shop and no consistency.
i dont get it with some. there is nothing wrong with taking mature players for one or two seasons, if they are high quality even better.in taking them there is nothing to stop you from taking a good quantity of kids preferably with as many early to mid range nd picks as you can get.
the way people carry on you would think if you do one you cant do the other.
we must continue to value add for the right reasons and at the right times. nothing wrong with short term fixes at all. it only becomes wrong if you ignore the nd and kids in a substantial way.like we did last yr. im still stewing over the stupidity and lack of consistent good process.
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For those that like recruiting Carlton's ruckmen :P, Robbie Warnock is on the outer at Princes Park ...
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/writing-on-the-wall-for-carltons-robert-warnock-20140730-zymkh.html
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Lets go after Tom Mitchell instead. 10 year player as opposed to a 1 year stopgap.
Agree, but I reckon the blues will be in his ear ;D
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Would love O'Keefe
Just a shame we already carrying a troop of mature discards
Instead of a gun
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lmao at some people. talk about all over the shop and no consistency.
i dont get it with some. there is nothing wrong with taking mature players for one or two seasons, if they are high quality even better.in taking them there is nothing to stop you from taking a good quantity of kids preferably with as many early to mid range nd picks as you can get.
the way people carry on you would think if you do one you cant do the other.
we must continue to value add for the right reasons and at the right times. nothing wrong with short term fixes at all. it only becomes wrong if you ignore the nd and kids in a substantial way.like we did last yr. im still stewing over the stupidity and lack of consistent good process.
100% agree with u on the all of that except your attack on posters. Makes u come across as a pretentious wanker.
I think the issue is , as you stated perfectly ' add value for the right reasons at the right times '
We've gone down the recycled , older players path for a while now. It's not the time to be going after Higgins and a 34 year old O'Keefe. We drafted basically no kids last year and it might come back to bite us. If we're gonna go after a player we should make it a young potential gun. Surely Anthony Miles season should show our recruiters what can be achieved with youth ?
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Of course Hardwick wants him. He's a 34 year old who's been playing reserves football all season. Fit's Hardwick's recruiting criteria perfectly.
Sorry Dice but can't agree
Would be a good pick up
Far better player than Grigg, Houli, Thomas to name 3
He's a champion player, a gun IMHO and he would offer a lot even at 34
Rubbish, next you'll put Richo up there for a comeback, row is now as slow as a wet week, games past him, we re not playing neafl
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lmao at some people. talk about all over the shop and no consistency.
i dont get it with some. there is nothing wrong with taking mature players for one or two seasons, if they are high quality even better.in taking them there is nothing to stop you from taking a good quantity of kids preferably with as many early to mid range nd picks as you can get.
the way people carry on you would think if you do one you cant do the other.
we must continue to value add for the right reasons and at the right times. nothing wrong with short term fixes at all. it only becomes wrong if you ignore the nd and kids in a substantial way.like we did last yr. im still stewing over the stupidity and lack of consistent good process.
100% agree with u on the all of that except your attack on posters. Makes u come across as a pretentious wanker.
I think the issue is , as you stated perfectly ' add value for the right reasons at the right times '
We've gone down the recycled , older players path for a while now. It's not the time to be going after Higgins and a 34 year old O'Keefe. We drafted basically no kids last year and it might come back to bite us. If we're gonna go after a player we should make it a young potential gun. Surely Anthony Miles season should show our recruiters what can be achieved with youth ?
those posters you talk of like to dish it out. if they dish it out they sure as hell can expect to get a little something back every now and then.
when a few of em are prepared to acknowledge when they get things wrong which is most of the time. or when a few of them grow the balls and decency to say you were right on that one. which is yet to happen and sort of shows who the pretensious twats are maybe then i will refrain from the very rare bit of how does one say it oh yeah pretentiousness.
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For those that like recruiting Carlton's ruckmen :P, Robbie Warnock is on the outer at Princes Park ...
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/writing-on-the-wall-for-carltons-robert-warnock-20140730-zymkh.html
He has the skill of a mountain goat and the agility of a tram , no thanks, makes Hampson,look like Polly farmer :shh
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I think Ryan O'Keefe would be a good pick up. The thing with older players are not all 33 year olds bodies are the same. Some blokes are just fitter and more durable.
I remember reading a while back that this bloke is a freak athlete, he would ride to training (not sure how far but it was a decent ride) then train, then ride home. Just super fit!
Heard also today that on his one day off training from the Swans every week he does cross training with 'I loves you all' Jeff Fenech.
If we got rid of a couple of other duds I'd be happy to have him.
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I think Ryan O'Keefe would be a good pick up. The thing with older players are not all 33 year olds bodies are the same. Some blokes are just fitter and more durable.
I remember reading a while back that this bloke is a freak athlete, he would ride to training (not sure how far but it was a decent ride) then train, then ride home. Just super fit!
Heard also today that on his one day off training from the Swans every week he does cross training with 'I loves you all' Jeff Fenech.
If we got rid of a couple of other duds I'd be happy to have him.
Exactly: Thank you :clapping :clapping
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I wouldn't mind O'Keefe if it meant he could teach us how to demand winning. No interest if it came to a bidding war though.
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Once again O'Keefe would be a fine pick-up if the list didn't already contain multiple mature aged wasted picks.
If we didn't take proven mediocre players at AFL level like A Edwards, Stephenson, Thomas, Hampson, et al and think that somehow they will magically change when they walk in the door of Richmond, and took proven guns like O'Keefe, Chapman et al when we needed to fill a list gap, I'd be a lot happier.
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I think Ryan O'Keefe would be a good pick up. The thing with older players are not all 33 year olds bodies are the same. Some blokes are just fitter and more durable.
I remember reading a while back that this bloke is a freak athlete, he would ride to training (not sure how far but it was a decent ride) then train, then ride home. Just super fit!
Heard also today that on his one day off training from the Swans every week he does cross training with 'I loves you all' Jeff Fenech.
If we got rid of a couple of other duds I'd be happy to have him.
Exactly: Thank you :clapping :clapping
Disagree completely. Would be a massive recruiting faux pax.
Richmond need raw line speed, goal kicking ability and defensive pressure in the forward half not overage single season players (for RFC) that have had better days at their previous clubs.
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Last year Carscum supporters were giving it to ya got taking Hampson and saying Warnick is the best. Hampson > Warnock
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I think Ryan O'Keefe would be a good pick up. The thing with older players are not all 33 year olds bodies are the same. Some blokes are just fitter and more durable.
I remember reading a while back that this bloke is a freak athlete, he would ride to training (not sure how far but it was a decent ride) then train, then ride home. Just super fit!
Heard also today that on his one day off training from the Swans every week he does cross training with 'I loves you all' Jeff Fenech.
If we got rid of a couple of other duds I'd be happy to have him.
Exactly: Thank you :clapping :clapping
Disagree completely. Would be a massive recruiting faux pax.
Richmond need raw line speed, goal kicking ability and defensive pressure in the forward half not overage single season players (for RFC) that have had better days at their previous clubs.
So you would prefer Grigg, Hampson, A. Edwards, Petterd,and Thomas on our list then Ryan O'Keefe, and 4 kids?
That's all we are saying, I could handle one 33 guy who has been in a good culture all his footballing days that is still super fit as long as we got rid of some other list cloggers. He would easily be in our best 22. We still need all these other things you mention but one spot on a bloke like O'Keefe wouldn't hurt in any way.
The sad thing about it is we haven't got the pills to get rid of the blokes I mentioned..
We need guys that are going to make a difference not guys that just play rolls occasionally.
IMO you keep the A graders- Cotch, Lids, Jack, Martin, Rance.
Keep the B graders and young talent- Vlaustin, Grimes, Ellis, Dea, Maric, Miles, Vickory, Conca, McBean, Lennon, Morris and Foley.
And get rid of those nothing types and bring in kids and turn them over if they don't show something pretty quick.
I'd get rid of the 5 I mentioned over the next 2 years as well as Big O, Newman, Batchelor, Houli, Knights, Jackson, Griffiths, Helbig, Gordon and O'Hanlon.
The others are lucky.
We have a pretty good core group of 17 and some kids that have shown something but still could go either way but then two many nothing types. Time to turn this list around.
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
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Callum Sinclair from the eagles would be a good get for us with Big O set to retire and Hampson not up to it.
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
think 3 of the 5 are
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
only grigg and hampson as far as im aware.
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Callum Sinclair from the eagles would be a good get for us with Big O set to retire and Hampson not up to it.
have only been calling for us to have a crack at sinclair, lycett and mcgovern for the last two yrs. too late now all three are now on the list proper and required players.
two seasons ago none of em were getting a go and it didnt look like they would get much of a chance.
i think lycett is off back home to p/a. besides the club and most supporters seem to think our tall stocks are just fine
I think Ryan O'Keefe would be a good pick up. The thing with older players are not all 33 year olds bodies are the same. Some blokes are just fitter and more durable.
I remember reading a while back that this bloke is a freak athlete, he would ride to training (not sure how far but it was a decent ride) then train, then ride home. Just super fit!
Heard also today that on his one day off training from the Swans every week he does cross training with 'I loves you all' Jeff Fenech.
If we got rid of a couple of other duds I'd be happy to have him.
Exactly: Thank you :clapping :clapping
Disagree completely. Would be a massive recruiting faux pax.
Richmond need raw line speed, goal kicking ability and defensive pressure in the forward half not overage single season players (for RFC) that have had better days at their previous clubs.
So you would prefer Grigg, Hampson, A. Edwards, Petterd,and Thomas on our list then Ryan O'Keefe, and 4 kids?
That's all we are saying, I could handle one 33 guy who has been in a good culture all his footballing days that is still super fit as long as we got rid of some other list cloggers. He would easily be in our best 22. We still need all these other things you mention but one spot on a bloke like O'Keefe wouldn't hurt in any way.
The sad thing about it is we haven't got the pills to get rid of the blokes I mentioned..
We need guys that are going to make a difference not guys that just play rolls occasionally.
IMO you keep the A graders- Cotch, Lids, Jack, Martin, Rance.
Keep the B graders and young talent- Vlaustin, Grimes, Ellis, Dea, Maric, Miles, Vickory, Conca, McBean, Lennon, Morris and Foley.
And get rid of those nothing types and bring in kids and turn them over if they don't show something pretty quick.
I'd get rid of the 5 I mentioned over the next 2 years as well as Big O, Newman, Batchelor, Houli, Knights, Jackson, Griffiths, Helbig, Gordon and O'Hanlon.
The others are lucky.
We have a pretty good core group of 17 and some kids that have shown something but still could go either way but then two many nothing types. Time to turn this list around.
would argue the rating on a lot of those players. especially those B graders. lots of battlers in that group. but hey i suppose thats where i differ from most posters i think the list is rubbish.
based on what has been dished up over a sustained period the following is what id be aiming to turn over, over the next three or four seasons.. i havent mentioned some especially younger blokes who havent shown much and may go either way likey the wrong way.
grimes, dea, vickery, foley ret, banfield, batchelor, chaplin ret , darrou, edwards ret, edwards, gordon, griffiths, grigg, hampson, helbig,houli, jackson ret, king ret , knights, lloyd, maric ret, newman ret, ohanlon ,petterd, stephenson ret, thomas, williams.
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no to okeefe i say. after all he would cost too much a f/a ffs and he would be overpaid at 4ook a yr im gobsmacked these excuses not to take him have not yet been trotted out.
cmon people anyone over 24yrs is just too old for us lol.
ffs if chapman goddard arent good enough for us why would okeefe be. after all we dont need quality players we have enough and we will get plenty more in the nd hhhhaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhh.
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no to okeefe i say. after all he would cost too much a f/a ffs and he would be overpaid at 4ook a yr im gobsmacked these excuses not to take him have not yet been trotted out.
cmon people anyone over 24yrs is just too old for us lol.
ffs if chapman goddard arent good enough for us why would okeefe be. after all we dont need quality players we have enough and we will get plenty more in the nd hhhhaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhh.
we'd probably be sitting in the 8 right now if we had got chapman
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have only been calling for us to have a crack at sinclair, lycett
Freo have got a surplus. Sandilands , Zac Clarke , Jack Hannath , Jon Griffin , Michael Apeness.
Any of them worth looking at Claw ?
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
only grigg and hampson as far as im aware.
theres still time I guess for is to to get it done. ::)
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Once again O'Keefe would be a fine pick-up if the list didn't already contain multiple mature aged wasted picks.
If we didn't take proven mediocre players at AFL level like A Edwards, Stephenson, Thomas, Hampson, et al and think that somehow they will magically change when they walk in the door of Richmond, and took proven guns like O'Keefe, Chapman et al when we needed to fill a list gap, I'd be a lot happier.
well articulated
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have only been calling for us to have a crack at sinclair, lycett
Freo have got a surplus. Sandilands , Zac Clarke , Jack Hannath , Jon Griffin , Michael Apeness.
Any of them worth looking at Claw ?
i do recall wanting us to take hannath as a rookie. as a project player hes tracking along okay. but hes happy at freo. jon griffin wont go anywhere he left adelaide to come home wont get many opportunities here but i think hes happy with that..sandilands is untoiuchable and will retire a docker.clarke has been resigned and is going nowhere.
havent watched much of apeness but he is well thought of over here. more of a fwd/ruck. ffs they only drafted him last yr with their first round pick dont like our chances of prising him away.
they also have moller on the rookie list.
dont think sandi and griffin are far away from retirement so freo wont be wanting to let go of the other three in a hurry. i dont get the feeling any of those mentioned feel like they are missing out on getting games atm
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
only grigg and hampson as far as im aware.
This weeks Inside Football mag, Ricky Petterd isn't listed as being one of ours coming out of contract
I thought I had read somewhere he got a 2year deal when he was promoted.
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Once again O'Keefe would be a fine pick-up if the list didn't already contain multiple mature aged wasted picks.
If we didn't take proven mediocre players at AFL level like A Edwards, Stephenson, Thomas, Hampson, et al and think that somehow they will magically change when they walk in the door of Richmond, and took proven guns like O'Keefe, Chapman et al when we needed to fill a list gap, I'd be a lot happier.
you do realise theres a very good chance that many of the mediocre mature players will be cut.
newman, king already gone, a edwards will either retire or be cut, stephenson will retire or be cut.petterd is out of contract and could be cut if need be. banfield is a mature player will likely get cut. throw in 3 or 4 of the batchelors deas helbigs etc who arent exactly kids and surely we can make room for one or two quality older players.
the following yr your houlis griggs thomas gordon lloyd come into the gunsights.
id be okay with us taking 5 or 6 kids and 3 or 4 mature players of which one or two could be 28 plus.
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
only grigg and hampson as far as im aware.
This weeks Inside Football mag, Ricky Petterd isn't listed as being one of ours coming out of contract
I thought I had read somewhere he got a 2year deal when he was promoted.
was pretty sure he only got one yr but could be wrong.
lmao houli, hampson shedwards vickery and chaplin all contracted till end of 2016.
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thats not true is it claw, that last line.
surely not all of them until 2016?
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Once again O'Keefe would be a fine pick-up if the list didn't already contain multiple mature aged wasted picks.
If we didn't take proven mediocre players at AFL level like A Edwards, Stephenson, Thomas, Hampson, et al and think that somehow they will magically change when they walk in the door of Richmond, and took proven guns like O'Keefe, Chapman et al when we needed to fill a list gap, I'd be a lot happier.
you do realise theres a very good chance that many of the mediocre mature players will be cut.
newman, king already gone, a edwards will either retire or be cut, stephenson will retire or be cut.petterd is out of contract and could be cut if need be. banfield is a mature player will likely get cut. throw in 3 or 4 of the batchelors deas helbigs etc who arent exactly kids and surely we can make room for one or two quality older players.
the following yr your houlis griggs thomas gordon lloyd come into the gunsights.
id be okay with us taking 5 or 6 kids and 3 or 4 mature players of which one or two could be 28 plus.
lol Petterd, Houli, Grigg, Lloyd, Gordon are all no chance to be cut. Thomas aswell
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thats not true is it claw, that last line.
surely not all of them until 2016?
not true
Vickery is till 2017.
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:rollin
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you do realise theres a very good chance that many of the mediocre mature players will be cut.
You do realise our coaches and recruiters are a pack of nuffies and will probably keep them all?
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thats not true is it claw, that last line.
surely not all of them until 2016?
not true
Vickery is till 2017.
thats just plain old nasty tigs, shame on you.
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you do realise theres a very good chance that many of the mediocre mature players will be cut.
You do realise our coaches and recruiters are a pack of nuffies and will probably keep them all?
that is the obvious concern. but even i can hope cant i?
my logic tells me while fj is there we are wasting our time taking kids anyway. but i still have a list of kids id like us to take.hence i have a list od players i hope we cut but as you say with so many nuffies in charge, im wasting my time naming them. it wont happen we are still locked and loaded.
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how he FJ still has a job is probably the main reason we are where we are.
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I thought we had a succession plan for FJ - Luke Williams. He is working with FJ and I wouldn't be surprised if he takes over soon. Should have a few handy contacts from his time at Geelong with Stephen Wells.
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I thought we had a succession plan for FJ - Luke Williams. He is working with FJ and I wouldn't be surprised if he takes over soon. Should have a few handy contacts from his time at Geelong with Stephen Wells.
I wouldnt hold my breath. The bloke is made of steel or something. How he survived the wallace cull is one of life's mysteries.
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FJ has gone okay.
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Haven't we got all those duds signed up though tone? FFS. :banghead
only grigg and hampson as far as im aware.
This weeks Inside Football mag, Ricky Petterd isn't listed as being one of ours coming out of contract
I thought I had read somewhere he got a 2year deal when he was promoted.
was pretty sure he only got one yr but could be wrong.
Our OER contracts list has Petterd with just one year. The RFC article about his elevation to the senior list only mentioned 2014.
Mature-age rookie Ricky Petterd, who played 12 games in his debut season at Tigerland, will be elevated to the senior list for the 2014 season.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-30/richmond-list-changes
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I think Ryan O'Keefe would be a good pick up.
If we got rid of a couple of other duds I'd be happy to have him.
Exactly: Thank you :clapping :clapping
Disagree completely. Would be a massive recruiting faux pax.
Richmond need raw line speed, goal kicking ability and defensive pressure in the forward half not overage single season players (for RFC) that have had better days at their previous clubs.
Keep the B graders and young talent- Vlaustin, Grimes, Ellis, Dea, Maric, Miles, Vickory, Conca, McBean, Lennon, Morris and Foley.
That's the thing O'Keefe keeps Lennon out, so you advocate for an aged recycled player limiting the development opportunities of a young draftee already in the RFC system.
Even O'Hanlon (if he is kept on the list) is unable to develop further at VFL level as the lead-up forward if O'Keefe is acquired.
I just do not understand that logic stream.
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O'Keefe keeps Lennon out,
Grimes Astbury Bachelor
Vlastuin Rance Dea/Houli
Ellis Cotchin S Edwards
O'Keefe Vickery/McBean Lennon
Martin Reiwoldt Deledio
Maric Miles Conca
#pick1 #pick2
Even O'Hanlon (if he is kept on the list) is unable to develop further at VFL level as the lead-up forward if O'Keefe is acquired.
I just do not understand that logic stream.
Ideally OHanlon would compete with Lennon and take over from Okeefe in the future.
The problem is we play the like of Arnot out of position in the forward line and questionable types: Thomas, Grigg, Pettard, King, Newman in these important positions.
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FJ has gone okay.
Are you joking?
Please don't mention cotch or dusty as my grandma could have picked them
His biggest success is Rance and Jack and once again they were first rounders
One finals game during his whole 7yr tenure tenure
Great job his doing down there but he did learn off the best in the business in Miller, so let's hold onto him like we do all these other hacks
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
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The issue here is finding objectivity when assessing FJ's job.
Jack, Cotch, Rance, Dusty (wasn't a straight forward pick, look at what the Dees did), Ellis, Vlas will all be good players.
I'm starting to think big Ty has unlocked the secret to his game - playing angry. He might get suspended a few times but that edge to his game has improved his attack on the pill.
I'd say let's see how he goes in 2015. I'm now starting to wonder now well he has been coached given that a number of his teammates have stated he plays better when more aggressive.
I know Conca has his share of haters but I'm prepared to wait until he is fully fit before making a call.
Jake Batchelor has started to emerge in the past few weeks and has a specific role which is helping his focus on the field.
We don't know about the string beaner yet but he seems to show a bit.
So I'm not hating FJ, there is enough to work with - in fact I'd argue the issues are more in player development and the list manager who insisted on recruiting mature aged players ahead of kids.
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That's the thing O'Keefe keeps Lennon out, so you advocate for an aged recycled player limiting the development opportunities of a young draftee already in the RFC system.
Even O'Hanlon (if he is kept on the list) is unable to develop further at VFL level as the lead-up forward if O'Keefe is acquired.
I just do not understand that logic stream.
I don't see O'Keefe keeping a Lennon out, I see him keeping a Thomas out while out the same time teaching our younger players more about hard work and professionalism than they've had in the past. IMV Lennon as he develops (1st year player) should be pushing a S Ewdards(as a HF) or a Houli (off the HBF) out
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A Richmond related rumour from a North fan on BF's rumour board:
Rumour - Adam Tomlinson to Richmond
Has wanted to come home for quite some time and will nominate Richmond as his preferred club. St.Kilda were in the mix originally also. I was informed of this by a recruiting manager at another club who is aware of this so it has merit
As he is not a free agent Richmond will likely have to give up a first rounder or 2nd rounder and a player.
Would get games at Richmond in my opinion, good swing man but i think a third tall forward option would b best suited. Really settle the forward line of Jack, Tyrone and Tomlinson for the next 5 years.
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"Well just wait and see then, from a very reliable source.
And i said first rounder going the other way."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-tomlinson-to-richmond.1071553/
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This bloke any good?
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Dunno but he was a recent highly rated top ten or so draft pick
That's about all it takes for me - yes please
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This bloke any good?
Yeah I reckon he's a goer. With Cameron/Patton/Boyd, there is no way anyone else could get a go ahead of them. He's a hard worker and can play. I'd take him without hesitation
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This bloke any good?
Yeah I reckon he's a goer. With Cameron/Patton/Boyd, there is no way anyone else could get a go ahead of them. He's a hard worker and can play. I'd take him without hesitation
Cheers TM. Is he a KPP or mid-sized forward your reckon?
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Similar to darling, can play as 2nd/3rd tall but also capable of being the main guy. Underrated last season when Cameron was tearing it up, does the hard work.
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I'm intrigued...
Worth our first rounder? more perhaps?
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Thought we weren't even allowed to mention the other forums here - now the admins are quoting entire posts?
Either way..... unless a trade rumour on Big Footy is from Carlton poster C4[2]Yo`DooR it usually isn't worth much.
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Is he a KPP or mid-sized forward your reckon?
Height 193 cm
Weight 92 kg
DOB 10-08-1993
Debut: 2012
Recruited From: Canterbury/Trinity Grammar/Oakleigh U18
Games
2014 14
Career 40
Goals
2014 8
Career 15
See more at: http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/player-profile/adam-tomlinson#sthash.nj8C3B5u.dpuf
Tomlinson (left), Patton, Boyd & Cameron.
(http://images.theage.com.au/2014/06/27/5551227/1403865996089.jpg-620x349.jpg)
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How many 34 years olds are still running round , more likely to break down.
IMHO it would be stupid , but every year we give up a first or second draft pick for heartbreak
Rookie them if we have to that way we only lose the least amount of our future
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Is he a KPP or mid-sized forward your reckon?
Height 193 cm
Weight 92 kg
DOB 10-08-1993
Debut: 2012
Recruited From: Canterbury/Trinity Grammar/Oakleigh U18
Games
2014 14
Career 40
Goals
2014 8
Career 15
See more at: http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/player-profile/adam-tomlinson#sthash.nj8C3B5u.dpuf
Tomlinson (left), Patton, Boyd & Cameron.
(http://images.theage.com.au/2014/06/27/5551227/1403865996089.jpg-620x349.jpg)
Cheers. Looks big enough to be the main man in a year or two. Boyd and Patton are just monsters.
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
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Can someone start a rumour that Conca and Grimes are on the trade table.
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Conca for gaff..straight swap?
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prefer an early pick instead
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reckon the earliest youd get for Reece would be 20
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Conca for gaff..straight swap?
Would take Gaff over Conca any day. Would the eagles be silly enough to take Conca though...
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
Yes but there were many people taking ahead fyfe and Parker.
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
Yes but there were many people taking ahead fyfe and Parker.
Correct. Fyfe wasn't as highly rated as a junior from memory because of his disposal. Several teams passed him up, not just us. Parker was the one that went very late that shouldn't have. I was hoping to get him earlier but FJ just wasn't interested. Strange.
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
Lol, like fyfe was on the lips of every recruiting officer, he went at like 20, why did everyone else leave him alone. Get some new material and stop embarrassing yourself :wallywink :banghead
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
Lol, like fyfe was on the lips of every recruiting officer, he went at like 20, why did everyone else leave him alone. Get some new material and stop embarrassing yourself :wallywink :banghead
:lol
No worries dancing girl :lol
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
that's fair enough but hindsight is 20-20.
all 18 clubs passed on these players at least once in their respective drafts.....so there really isn't any point in calling them disasters for FJ
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Meanwhile over in the harbour city
Parker pick 40
Dan H pick 30
K Jack Rookie
Josh Kennedy pick 40
4 potential brownlow winners right there
Then
ROK pick 50
Malcevski pick 60
For me the 2 big disasters for FJ are picking Griffiths instead of Fyfe and picking Batchelor instead of Parker. Add Parker and Fyfe into our 22 and take out Griffiths and Batchelor and we are much much better side. Its mistakes like that which kill our club IMHO.
that's fair enough but hindsight is 20-20.
all 18 clubs passed on these players at least once in their respective drafts.....so there really isn't any point in calling them disasters for FJ
That's not how it works, a recruiter is suppose to get picks outside the first round RIGHT!!
It doesn't matter what other clubs did, it's what our club did. It's their job to get these decisions right. If you use the excuse that other clubs also got it wrong then no decision after the first round can ever be judged.
Both examples are fair enough IMO. And Hindsight is the only way to have proof that a decision was wrong. The Heppell and Conca decision is just starting to become even more apparent...for some.
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The issue here is finding objectivity when assessing FJ's job.
Jack, Cotch, Rance, Dusty (wasn't a straight forward pick, look at what the Dees did), Ellis, Vlas will all be good players.
I'm starting to think big Ty has unlocked the secret to his game - playing angry. He might get suspended a few times but that edge to his game has improved his attack on the pill.
I'd say let's see how he goes in 2015. I'm now starting to wonder now well he has been coached given that a number of his teammates have stated he plays better when more aggressive.
I know Conca has his share of haters but I'm prepared to wait until he is fully fit before making a call.
Jake Batchelor has started to emerge in the past few weeks and has a specific role which is helping his focus on the field.
We don't know about the string beaner yet but he seems to show a bit.
So I'm not hating FJ, there is enough to work with - in fact I'd argue the issues are more in player development and the list manager who insisted on recruiting mature aged players ahead of kids.
for starters people dont hate anyone. fj is rightly criticised for the job he does nothing more.
for me the very fact melbourne took scully and trengove made it easy for fj. imo there were 4 standout mids and melbourne took 2 of em. it left martin and morabito. morabito may become a bust as well thru injury which is something no one could have predicted and doesnt reflect on the recruiter.
05/ jon # 8 bust, hughes #24 bust, casserley # 40 bust but injuries were the main reason. PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT FJ ROLE HERE. Part time or not HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JON. He was just one of two recruiters himself and miller.
06/ riewoldt #13 pass. edwards # 26 pass, i give edwards a pass only because hes played 150games. imo thats a reflection of the poor standard of players we have had. id say at best only a third of edwards games have met the required standard.
07/ cotchin #2 pass. rance #18 pass, putt #51 fail.
08/ vickery #8 imo fail, #26 post fail, no third rounder we did take hislop a fj favorite at #58 fail. even if i were to concede vickery a reasonable player, for a top 10 pick hes been very ordinary.
09/ martin #3 pass, griffiths #19 fail, #35 astbury ?????, #44 dea fail. i question astbury as hes yet to play enough good footy to show hes really made it. in other words could still go either way
10/ conca #6 pass, #30 batchelor fail, #47 helbig fail. ive given conca a pass but i dont think him a worthy top 20 selection yet alone top 10.
11/ ellis #15 pass, elton #26 ????, arnott #55 fail.
some people will argue the odd one they are just my opinion.
havent gone past 2011 as it is too early imo. i think vlastuin could be added to the pass list from 2012.
thats the first 3 rounds and overall it is a terrible record. How anyone can be happy with that sort of record is beyond me. No wonder we have gone at monkey ball so hard we just dont find anywhere near enough good juniors.
What is even more damning fj has not picked one decent young player in the latter rounds to go with the shoddy above record. not one diamond in the rough.
To take it even further the only decent rookie picks hes taken where we have found decent YOUNG players are miles AT 22YRS, , thats it.
FJ has to go if we are to become a good side. failing that we must find help for fj someone on a equal footing.
ffs it all starts with the role he does if he fails we fail.that is exactly what has happened.
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The issue here is finding objectivity when assessing FJ's job.
Jack, Cotch, Rance, Dusty (wasn't a straight forward pick, look at what the Dees did), Ellis, Vlas will all be good players.
I'm starting to think big Ty has unlocked the secret to his game - playing angry. He might get suspended a few times but that edge to his game has improved his attack on the pill.
I'd say let's see how he goes in 2015. I'm now starting to wonder now well he has been coached given that a number of his teammates have stated he plays better when more aggressive.
I know Conca has his share of haters but I'm prepared to wait until he is fully fit before making a call.
Jake Batchelor has started to emerge in the past few weeks and has a specific role which is helping his focus on the field.
We don't know about the string beaner yet but he seems to show a bit.
So I'm not hating FJ, there is enough to work with - in fact I'd argue the issues are more in player development and the list manager who insisted on recruiting mature aged players ahead of kids.
for starters people dont hate anyone. fj is rightly criticised for the job he does nothing more.
for me the very fact melbourne took scully and trengove made it easy for fj. imo there were 4 standout mids and melbourne took 2 of em. it left martin and morabito. morabito may become a bust as well thru injury which is something no one could have predicted and doesnt reflect on the recruiter.
05/ jon # 8 bust, hughes #24 bust, casserley # 40 bust but injuries were the main reason. PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT FJ ROLE HERE. Part time or not HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JON. He was just one of two recruiters himself and miller.
06/ riewoldt #13 pass. edwards # 26 pass, i give edwards a pass only because hes played 150games. imo thats a reflection of the poor standard of players we have had. id say at best only a third of edwards games have met the required standard.
07/ cotchin #2 pass. rance #18 pass, putt #51 fail.
08/ vickery #8 imo fail, #26 post fail, no third rounder we did take hislop a fj favorite at #58 fail. even if i were to concede vickery a reasonable player, for a top 10 pick hes been very ordinary.
09/ martin #3 pass, griffiths #19 fail, #35 astbury ?????, #44 dea fail. i question astbury as hes yet to play enough good footy to show hes really made it. in other words could still go either way
10/ conca #6 pass, #30 batchelor fail, #47 helbig fail. ive given conca a pass but i dont think him a worthy top 20 selection yet alone top 10.
11/ ellis #15 pass, elton #26 ????, arnott #55 fail.
some people will argue the odd one they are just my opinion.
havent gone past 2011 as it is too early imo. i think vlastuin could be added to the pass list from 2012.
thats the first 3 rounds and overall it is a terrible record. How anyone can be happy with that sort of record is beyond me. No wonder we have gone at monkey ball so hard we just dont find anywhere near enough good juniors.
What is even more damning fj has not picked one decent young player in the latter rounds to go with the shoddy above record. not one diamond in the rough.
To take it even further the only decent rookie picks hes taken where we have found decent YOUNG players are miles AT 22YRS, , thats it.
FJ has to go if we are to become a good side. failing that we must find help for fj someone on a equal footing.
ffs it all starts with the role he does if he fails we fail.that is exactly what has happened.
They have already made a move there claw. Luke Williams will take over in the next year or so IMHO.
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ok whose Luke Williams.....There are too many Williams's at tigerland,its spinning me out
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ok whose Luke Williams.....There are too many Williams's at tigerland,its spinning me out
Worked with Stephen Wells at Geelong for a few years. We hired him earlier this year after he had a fall out with Carlton (was only there for a few weeks).
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Can someone start a rumour that Conca and Grimes are on the trade table.
lol!
heard the same thing Ramps :thumbsup
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The issue here is finding objectivity when assessing FJ's job.
Jack, Cotch, Rance, Dusty (wasn't a straight forward pick, look at what the Dees did), Ellis, Vlas will all be good players.
I'm starting to think big Ty has unlocked the secret to his game - playing angry. He might get suspended a few times but that edge to his game has improved his attack on the pill.
I'd say let's see how he goes in 2015. I'm now starting to wonder now well he has been coached given that a number of his teammates have stated he plays better when more aggressive.
I know Conca has his share of haters but I'm prepared to wait until he is fully fit before making a call.
Jake Batchelor has started to emerge in the past few weeks and has a specific role which is helping his focus on the field.
We don't know about the string beaner yet but he seems to show a bit.
So I'm not hating FJ, there is enough to work with - in fact I'd argue the issues are more in player development and the list manager who insisted on recruiting mature aged players ahead of kids.
for starters people dont hate anyone. fj is rightly criticised for the job he does nothing more.
for me the very fact melbourne took scully and trengove made it easy for fj. imo there were 4 standout mids and melbourne took 2 of em. it left martin and morabito. morabito may become a bust as well thru injury which is something no one could have predicted and doesnt reflect on the recruiter.
05/ jon # 8 bust, hughes #24 bust, casserley # 40 bust but injuries were the main reason. PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT FJ ROLE HERE. Part time or not HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JON. He was just one of two recruiters himself and miller.
06/ riewoldt #13 pass. edwards # 26 pass, i give edwards a pass only because hes played 150games. imo thats a reflection of the poor standard of players we have had. id say at best only a third of edwards games have met the required standard.
07/ cotchin #2 pass. rance #18 pass, putt #51 fail.
08/ vickery #8 imo fail, #26 post fail, no third rounder we did take hislop a fj favorite at #58 fail. even if i were to concede vickery a reasonable player, for a top 10 pick hes been very ordinary.
09/ martin #3 pass, griffiths #19 fail, #35 astbury ?????, #44 dea fail. i question astbury as hes yet to play enough good footy to show hes really made it. in other words could still go either way
10/ conca #6 pass, #30 batchelor fail, #47 helbig fail. ive given conca a pass but i dont think him a worthy top 20 selection yet alone top 10.
11/ ellis #15 pass, elton #26 ????, arnott #55 fail.
some people will argue the odd one they are just my opinion.
havent gone past 2011 as it is too early imo. i think vlastuin could be added to the pass list from 2012.
thats the first 3 rounds and overall it is a terrible record. How anyone can be happy with that sort of record is beyond me. No wonder we have gone at monkey ball so hard we just dont find anywhere near enough good juniors.
What is even more damning fj has not picked one decent young player in the latter rounds to go with the shoddy above record. not one diamond in the rough.
To take it even further the only decent rookie picks hes taken where we have found decent YOUNG players are miles AT 22YRS, , thats it.
FJ has to go if we are to become a good side. failing that we must find help for fj someone on a equal footing.
ffs it all starts with the role he does if he fails we fail.that is exactly what has happened.
White was from 05. He is a pass.
Shane Edwards is a decent player.
Griffiths is not a fail. Nor is dea. Hardwick said Astbury was winning our bf = pass
Bach and arnot as not fails
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The issue here is finding objectivity when assessing FJ's job.
Jack, Cotch, Rance, Dusty (wasn't a straight forward pick, look at what the Dees did), Ellis, Vlas will all be good players.
I'm starting to think big Ty has unlocked the secret to his game - playing angry. He might get suspended a few times but that edge to his game has improved his attack on the pill.
I'd say let's see how he goes in 2015. I'm now starting to wonder now well he has been coached given that a number of his teammates have stated he plays better when more aggressive.
I know Conca has his share of haters but I'm prepared to wait until he is fully fit before making a call.
Jake Batchelor has started to emerge in the past few weeks and has a specific role which is helping his focus on the field.
We don't know about the string beaner yet but he seems to show a bit.
So I'm not hating FJ, there is enough to work with - in fact I'd argue the issues are more in player development and the list manager who insisted on recruiting mature aged players ahead of kids.
for starters people dont hate anyone. fj is rightly criticised for the job he does nothing more.
for me the very fact melbourne took scully and trengove made it easy for fj. imo there were 4 standout mids and melbourne took 2 of em. it left martin and morabito. morabito may become a bust as well thru injury which is something no one could have predicted and doesnt reflect on the recruiter.
05/ jon # 8 bust, hughes #24 bust, casserley # 40 bust but injuries were the main reason. PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT FJ ROLE HERE. Part time or not HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JON. He was just one of two recruiters himself and miller.
06/ riewoldt #13 pass. edwards # 26 pass, i give edwards a pass only because hes played 150games. imo thats a reflection of the poor standard of players we have had. id say at best only a third of edwards games have met the required standard.
07/ cotchin #2 pass. rance #18 pass, putt #51 fail.
08/ vickery #8 imo fail, #26 post fail, no third rounder we did take hislop a fj favorite at #58 fail. even if i were to concede vickery a reasonable player, for a top 10 pick hes been very ordinary.
09/ martin #3 pass, griffiths #19 fail, #35 astbury ?????, #44 dea fail. i question astbury as hes yet to play enough good footy to show hes really made it. in other words could still go either way
10/ conca #6 pass, #30 batchelor fail, #47 helbig fail. ive given conca a pass but i dont think him a worthy top 20 selection yet alone top 10.
11/ ellis #15 pass, elton #26 ????, arnott #55 fail.
some people will argue the odd one they are just my opinion.
havent gone past 2011 as it is too early imo. i think vlastuin could be added to the pass list from 2012.
thats the first 3 rounds and overall it is a terrible record. How anyone can be happy with that sort of record is beyond me. No wonder we have gone at monkey ball so hard we just dont find anywhere near enough good juniors.
What is even more damning fj has not picked one decent young player in the latter rounds to go with the shoddy above record. not one diamond in the rough.
To take it even further the only decent rookie picks hes taken where we have found decent YOUNG players are miles AT 22YRS, , thats it.
FJ has to go if we are to become a good side. failing that we must find help for fj someone on a equal footing.
ffs it all starts with the role he does if he fails we fail.that is exactly what has happened.
White was from 05. He is a pass.
Shane Edwards is a decent player.
Griffiths is not a fail. Nor is dea. Hardwick said Astbury was winning our bf = pass
Bach and arnot as not fails
In fairness he did say that is the first 3 rounds of the drafts. And Matty White was in the PSD from memory. He is definitely a tick but there is also more misses that he didn't mention after the 3rd round. His point was the first 3 rounds is your best opportunity of getting them right. He was cutting FJ some slack.
Agree on Edwards- pass
Astbury isn't a pass yet nor is he a fail but I guess that's Claws point of view....and mine.
Batch and Arnot are fails to this point.
Vickory is the one I don't agree with. He is a pass IMO and will only get better.
If Conca gets a pass so does Vickory.
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Kristian Jaksch hot property this trade period as almost every Victorian club eyes him.
Jay Clark and Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
August 13, 2014 9:00PM
GREATER Western Sydney tall Kristian Jaksch could be on the move to Carlton this year to help replenish the Blues’ ageing key position stocks.
But the Blues face a fight to secure Jaksch with nearly every Victorian club expressing interest, meaning a rival could gazump their offer to the Giants.
GWS is desperate to keep Jaksch, 19, who is happy in Sydney, and have offered him a handsome deal to extend his two-year stay up north.
Read more: http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/kristian-jaksch-hot-property-this-trade-period-as-almost-every-victorian-club-eyes-him/story-fnahrzm3-1227023447272
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Isn't he a Tiger tragic. Surely we could use this to make us his club of choice.
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Lol Carlton with Judd playing on won't get him. If they do they need to be heavily investigated again. Thomas and a Judd is almost 98% of the cap :shh
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judd gets payed outside the cap mate
he is special
like jobe watson, too much a good bloke to get banned. unlike that saad, who really should be in jail
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judd gets payed outside the cap mate
he is special
like jobe watson, too much a good bloke to get banned. unlike that saad, who really should be in jail
:lol :clapping
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for starters people dont hate anyone. fj is rightly criticised for the job he does nothing more.
for me the very fact melbourne took scully and trengove made it easy for fj. imo there were 4 standout mids and melbourne took 2 of em. it left martin and morabito. morabito may become a bust as well thru injury which is something no one could have predicted and doesnt reflect on the recruiter.
05/ jon # 8 bust, hughes #24 bust, casserley # 40 bust but injuries were the main reason. PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT FJ ROLE HERE. Part time or not HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JON. He was just one of two recruiters himself and miller.
06/ riewoldt #13 pass. edwards # 26 pass, i give edwards a pass only because hes played 150games. imo thats a reflection of the poor standard of players we have had. id say at best only a third of edwards games have met the required standard.
07/ cotchin #2 pass. rance #18 pass, putt #51 fail.
08/ vickery #8 imo fail, #26 post fail, no third rounder we did take hislop a fj favorite at #58 fail. even if i were to concede vickery a reasonable player, for a top 10 pick hes been very ordinary.
09/ martin #3 pass, griffiths #19 fail, #35 astbury ?????, #44 dea fail. i question astbury as hes yet to play enough good footy to show hes really made it. in other words could still go either way
10/ conca #6 pass, #30 batchelor fail, #47 helbig fail. ive given conca a pass but i dont think him a worthy top 20 selection yet alone top 10.
11/ ellis #15 pass, elton #26 ????, arnott #55 fail.
some people will argue the odd one they are just my opinion.
havent gone past 2011 as it is too early imo. i think vlastuin could be added to the pass list from 2012.
thats the first 3 rounds and overall it is a terrible record. How anyone can be happy with that sort of record is beyond me. No wonder we have gone at monkey ball so hard we just dont find anywhere near enough good juniors.
What is even more damning fj has not picked one decent young player in the latter rounds to go with the shoddy above record. not one diamond in the rough.
To take it even further the only decent rookie picks hes taken where we have found decent YOUNG players are miles AT 22YRS, , thats it.
FJ has to go if we are to become a good side. failing that we must find help for fj someone on a equal footing.
ffs it all starts with the role he does if he fails we fail.that is exactly what has happened.
Completely agree with this assessment as it stands at this point in time. To add to that, the Conca over Heppell decision is the one that hurt the club the most in recent years. Second rate tagger vrs stand out leader. Heppell was the ideal fit for the RFC's needs.
I don't credit fj for the Miles decision, we only picked up Miles because we needed more players for our stand alone VFL side. We didn't recruit kids in this draft like we should have. If we were still affiliated with Coburg, would have missed him. I credit the club for finally bringing the VFL side back into the Richmond fold. Should never have let it go.
The club has the facilities and funds to sustain a period of success. What it needs is the talent in coaching and recruiting and the strength in administration and management to identify and utilise this talent. Change is required.
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When has Cona ever been used as a tagger?
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When has Cona ever been used as a tagger?
Might be suggesting that's what kind of player he essentially is moreso than how he's mainly been used thus far.....
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When has Cona ever been used as a tagger?
Might be suggesting that's what kind of player he essentially is moreso than how he's mainly been used thus far.....
Ok thats a bit odd, like saying Watts would be more a ballerina than footballer or Hampson would be better suited to flipping burgers at Maccas.
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When has Cona ever been used as a tagger?
Might be suggesting that's what kind of player he essentially is moreso than how he's mainly been used thus far.....
Ok thats a bit odd, like saying Watts would be more a ballerina than footballer or Hampson would be better suited to flipping burgers at Maccas.
Poor analogy - ballet's way too tough & demanding for Watts and Hamspud clearly doesn't possess the motor skills required to flip burgers.
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When has Cona ever been used as a tagger?
Might be suggesting that's what kind of player he essentially is moreso than how he's mainly been used thus far.....
Ok thats a bit odd, like saying Watts would be more a ballerina than footballer or Hampson would be better suited to flipping burgers at Maccas.
Poor analogy - ballet's way too tough & demanding for Watts and Hamspud clearly doesn't possess the motor skills required to flip burgers.
Hmmm true
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When has Cona ever been used as a tagger?
In his first season VS Carlton for Marc Murphy. Gave him 3 free kicks in the first 10 minutes. Only 1 was maybe a real free.
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Port Adelaide have apparently offered Magpie free agent Tyson Goldsack $1.2m over 3 years to move to Alberton.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/tyson-goldsack-reportedly-set-to-leave-collingwood-following-lucrative-offer-from-port-adelaide/story-fndv8g1a-1227041355579
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Port Adelaide have apparently offered Magpie free agent Tyson Goldsack $1.2m over 3 years to move to Alberton.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/tyson-goldsack-reportedly-set-to-leave-collingwood-following-lucrative-offer-from-port-adelaide/story-fndv8g1a-1227041355579
thats silly
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Moneybags would be handy but that's a bit rich, surely?
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Almost makes the Hampson deal look like a steal.
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Crazy Hinkley
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Sounds like a lot but is 400k that much? average wage is about 300k?
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Just what I was going to say, don't think it is massive.
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Crazy Hinkley
Yer he has no idea! :lol
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Sounds like a lot but is 400k that much? average wage is about 300k?
$250K.
Nice role player. $300k I'd give but 400k is huge overs. Not that we can laugh, we probably still have some great contracts from the CC days. ;D
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Goldsack would be a good player in team like ours. If we could get him for say 300k a season that wouldn't be too bad. Could plonk him down at Centre Half Forward or Centre Half Back.
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Is he a better player than Chaplain? He cost us a bomb. Free agency is almost always about the money - and always will be at a club like ours until we have the credentials of the Hawks or the Cats
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Goldsack has been a decent player for Collingwood even when they have been going schit. He isn't A grade but would be an automatic selection for us every week at CHF. As to comparison to Chaplin, in defence I think Goldsack could play on big forwards but wouldn't be as good playing as the loose man in defence. At Richmond I would play him at Centre Half Forward anyway.
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Is he a better player than Chaplain? He cost us a bomb. Free agency is almost always about the money - and always will be at a club like ours until we have the credentials of the Hawks or the Cats
whats chaplain on? thought it was around 350-400k. I've always been a fan of moneybags - tough as nails and can play both ends of the field
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Okeefe
Cox
Goldsack
Ball
Vs
Orren
Bannfield
Thomas
Williams
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Okeefe
Cox
Goldsack
Ball
Vs
Orren
Bannfield
Thomas
Williams
Not sure all of them would play on our rookie list, if any. Only one that MIGHT would be O'keefe
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Roos reckons every Melbourne player is on the trade table.
One player I've always thought was underrated and who I think we could realistically target and get relatively cheaply is Sam Blease. Been on the outer at Melbourne this year too.
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Roos reckons every Melbourne player is on the trade table.
One player I've always thought was underrated and who I think we could realistically target and get relatively cheaply is Sam Blease. Been on the outer at Melbourne this year too.
Pretty sure he was a mad tiger supporter as a kid too! :thumbsup
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He was indeed , at best a late draft choice, more likely a rookie spot
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
Tapscott is a brute. Not sure why he isn't getting a game. Maybe attitude?
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
Tapscott is a brute. Not sure why he isn't getting a game. Maybe attitude?
Body keeps breaking down, had a bad hip in his first few seasons then I lost interest in keeping tabs
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
I'd rookie blease, or possible 50+ pick???has some natural run and carry in his game which we need more of, needs to step up a fair bit though ....would leave tapscott alone! poo kick for a hff
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screw these duds..either lets target a superstar or load up on classy kids
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At the end of the day I'm prepared to let fj and Hartley do their best work. Fair dinkum they could find a gold nugget at altona landfill the way they're going :shh
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At the end of the day I'm prepared to let fj and Hartley do their best work. Fair dinkum they could find a gold nugget at altona landfill the way they're going :shh
Absolutely, Hampson is what makes the Altona landfill stink the way it does. :thumbsup
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One stuff up can't tarnish the veritable warehouse of talent he s stockpiled ,
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The veritable warehouse, of 2 dollar shop goodies, it's just win win win! Wonder what we will get in our kinder surprise this year
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At the end of the day I'm prepared to let fj and Hartley do their best work. Fair dinkum they could find a gold nugget at altona landfill the way they're going :shh
Funny bastard
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One stuff up can't tarnish the veritable warehouse of talent he s stockpiled ,
Oh yeah nothing like a bit of tarn off to make Grandma's pewter look like new again.
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'tradie tumours and nintendo'
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At the end of the day I'm prepared to let fj and Hartley do their best work. Fair dinkum they could find a gold nugget at altona landfill the way they're going :shh
:shh :shh :shh
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
I'd rookie blease, or possible 50+ pick???has some natural run and carry in his game which we need more of, needs to step up a fair bit though ....would leave tapscott alone! poo kick for a hff
He was one of the best kicks in his draft I thought (behind Big Bad Benny G). That is strange....
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
I'd rookie blease, or possible 50+ pick???has some natural run and carry in his game which we need more of, needs to step up a fair bit though ....would leave tapscott alone! poo kick for a hff
He was one of the best kicks in his draft I thought (behind Big Bad Benny G). That is strange....
Melbourne players are a risk unless they are an out and out star like Nathan Jones. Too much emotional baggage. Same scenario as Frawley wanting to leave like Ottens and Nathan Jones is the equivalent of Cogs circa 2005 prior to his knees.
Melbourne IMHO is a no go for trades due to the mondset of their players.
GWS and Gold Coast are the gold mines and maybe even some young kids from the Dogs or Saints but Melbourne is a stay away zone.
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Melbourne players need serious therapy if we take them, to help them cope with the post traumatic stress disorder. Being a demon must be hell.
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We were into a Blease in his draft year and also tapscott in his draft year, don't know whether we'll go for them or not though
I'd rookie blease, or possible 50+ pick???has some natural run and carry in his game which we need more of, needs to step up a fair bit though ....would leave tapscott alone! poo kick for a hff
He was one of the best kicks in his draft I thought (behind Big Bad Benny G). That is strange....
Melbourne players are a risk unless they are an out and out star like Nathan Jones. Too much emotional baggage. Same scenario as Frawley wanting to leave like Ottens and Nathan Jones is the equivalent of Cogs circa 2005 prior to his knees.
Melbourne IMHO is a no go for trades due to the mondset of their players.
GWS and Gold Coast are the gold mines and maybe even some young kids from the Dogs or Saints but Melbourne is a stay away zone.
This the new Richmond my friend. They come to our club and bloom like they used to at Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney. ;D
The cycle is dead. Tigeritis is dead. We are the team they all will fear! ;D
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One stuff up can't tarnish the veritable warehouse of talent he s stockpiled ,
Oh yeah nothing like a bit of tarn off to make Grandma's pewter look like new again.
Braso works better ;)
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Roos reckons every Melbourne player is on the trade table.
One player I've always thought was underrated and who I think we could realistically target and get relatively cheaply is Sam Blease. Been on the outer at Melbourne this year too.
Meant to be super quick too, no?
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Roos reckons every Melbourne player is on the trade table.
One player I've always thought was underrated and who I think we could realistically target and get relatively cheaply is Sam Blease. Been on the outer at Melbourne this year too.
would not be trading for blease. after 4 yrs with his performances if he was at richmond every man and his dog would be howling for his head.
good chance he will be delisted and maybe then we could look at rookie picking him. personally id prefer we gave a player with such a poor record a miss let him go back to state league tear it up if hes good enough and then hope hes there in 12 24 months time and use a late nd pick or rookie him.
i think there comes a time where the onus has to fall on the player to prove he can play and deserves a spot on an afl list. dont think blease has done that.
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Not Richmond but according to Ch 7, Paddy Ryder wants to move to Brisbane even though he's still contracted for another two years. Apparently the supplement saga has something to do with it and he may use it as a breach of contract to walk from the Bombers.
Brisbane is also interested in Collingwood's Dayne Beams who is contracted for 2015. He was recruited from Qld and his younger brother Claye is already on the Lions list.
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Not Richmond but according to Ch 7, Paddy Ryder wants to move to Brisbane even though he's still contracted for another two years. Apparently the supplement saga has something to do with it and he may use it as a breach of contract to walk from the Bombers.
Brisbane is also interested in Collingwood's Dayne Beams who is contracted for 2015. He was recruited from Qld and his younger brother Claye is already on the Lions list.
Heard the swans are into Ryder up to their necks ::)
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Bout time some players wanted to move to Brisbane, usually they leaving, felt sorry for them. Imagine getting poached by the demons ffs... you would stuffing spew up.
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We should get Ryder :shh
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Bout time some players wanted to move to Brisbane, usually they leaving, felt sorry for them. Imagine getting poached by the demons ffs... you would stuffing spew up.
Hey they got the broadbeach bullet
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We should get Ryder :shh
No validity in that rumour...
He was going up to Queensland for his wedding in the off season... :whistle
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How about we get creative?
Package up Hampson, Thomas, A Edwards and Knights to GWS for a second round pick.
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How about we get creative?
Package up Hampson, Thomas, A Edwards and Knights to GWS for a second round pick.
Sadly, no one will want our hacks, TBR. Least of all talent-laden GWS. I would give knights next year to see if he can get his body right but we need to delist the rest as soon as we can.
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No trades for Richmond this year.
You don't trade premiership players!!!!
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How about we get creative?
Package up Hampson, Thomas, A Edwards and Knights to GWS for a second round pick.
Sadly, no one will want our hacks, TBR. Least of all talent-laden GWS. I would give knights next year to see if he can get his body right but we need to delist the rest as soon as we can.
hehe I think he was being facetious - those type trade scenarios are thrown up every year by some deluded supporters who think 5 duds bundled together = decent pick from the wood duck opposition.
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No trades for Richmond this year.
You don't trade premiership players!!!!
Waiting for someone to tear you to shreds for this. It will happen. :lol
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The Swans might take Hampson due to their lack of ruck options. Straight swap for......who am I kidding, Hamspud is worth nothing. Then again they did take X-Man. :lol
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Jeff Garlett and Mitch Robinson have also reportedly been told that the club [Carlton] will seek to trade them during the trade period.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/343612439146324
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Jeff Garlett and Mitch Robinson have also reportedly been told that the club [Carlton] will seek to trade them during the trade period.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/343612439146324
Straight swap for Hampson and Grigg
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The Swans might take Hampson due to their lack of ruck options. Straight swap for......who am I kidding, Hamspud is worth nothing. Then again they did take X-Man. :lol
I'd take a 1987 Rod Carter footy card.
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What about a pair of Alex Rances rainbow coloured hot pants?
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What about a pair of Alex Rances rainbow coloured hot pants?
Washed or unwashed?
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should move vickery to bull dogs for draft picks.
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Rumor has it Big Sauce merrett will be put on the table by Brisbane.
What's he worth? 29yo without a bad injury history probably get 3 to 4 years out of him.
Would have him in before Chaplin ;D
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Rumor has it Big Sauce merrett will be put on the table by Brisbane.
What's he worth? 29yo without a bad injury history probably get 3 to 4 years out of him.
Would have him in before Chaplin ;D
Straight swap for Hampson
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Rumor has it Big Sauce merrett will be put on the table by Brisbane.
What's he worth? 29yo without a bad injury history probably get 3 to 4 years out of him.
Would have him in before Chaplin ;D
Straight swap for Hampson
If only we'd kept McGuane for one more year :banghead
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I reckon Hardwick would like Mitch Robertson
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I reckon Hardwick would like Mitch Robertson
What about soon to be ex Carlton player Mitch Robinson
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Rookie list........possibly ....leave it to fj, he s got an eye like a hawk for talent :shh
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I wouldn't mind Robinson, we could do with some more loose idiots.
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Essendon star Paddy Ryder could quit the club at the end of the season with his management looking at triggering a new breach-of-contract clause that would allow him to walk as a delisted free agent.
The contracted 26-year-old's preferred alternative club is the Brisbane Lions, with his management optimistic Ryder could walk away from the Bombers because the club seriously breached its duty of care to the player.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendons-paddy-ryder-on-verge-of-walkout-20140903-10c40d.html
A few more Bombers could follow given a little known clause in the AFL’s collective bargaining agreement could give Essendon players the option of walking out of the club as delisted free agents.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/clause-in-cba-agreement-between-afl-players-and-afl-gives-scope-for-essendon-players-to-walk/story-fndv8gad-1227046859387
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Ryder not could
Is going
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Ryder not could
Is going
Where Jack?
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Seems to be a lot of talk going on about players moving, Waite included.
Who are we looking at??
I would like one decent to big scalp out of this..
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Just as long as its not Higgins :-\
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Just as long as its not Higgins :-\
Well I think we are chasing him....
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Paddy Ryder up for grabs
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Paddy Ryder up for grabs
Brisbane!!!
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sydney
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I think Tony might be on the money as the Swans desperately need an A grade ruckman whereas the Lions already have the Cheesberger with West and Martin as backup.
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Ffs how muchmmore room do they have in cap
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Take out O'Keefe and Goodes and they will have plenty.
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Get Heppell. He's rightfully ours anyway. ;D
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Will Hoskin-Elliot RFC 2016.
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Rumours going around the Giants are pursuing Brett Deledio for pick three. Wouldn't do unless they chucked in a Tomlinson, which I doubt they'd do
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Contracted and VC of RFC , won't happen
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1,2,3 sound more reasonable
Pick3? Talk about getting bent over
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Carlisle to Hawthorn :shh
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De lids is worth 3 picks in the top 10 . Unless GWS were prepared to part with no 3, Boyd and 1 of Tomlinson/Jacsch, anything less would be an insult . In any case won't happen, de lids did his time hard when we were no stuffen good, he could have left for more money at times, he stuck fat coz we were on the march ...he s a proud man de lids
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pick 3 stuff off
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Giants' Sam Frost and Kristian Jaksch both want to return to their home state of Victoria.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-04/frost-off-the-ground
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Giants' Sam Frost and Kristian Jaksch both want to return to their home state of Victoria.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-04/frost-off-the-ground
TV for Jaksch…. :shh
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Errr no, Jacsch looked an awful lot like mcguane to me :shh
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heritier-lumumba-set-to-quit-collingwood-20140904-10cmw1.html
Get the big boy to Punt Rd!
Get it done Tigers. :shh
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Errr no, Jacsch looked an awful lot like mcguane to me :shh
You must have been watching Brisbane early in the year - thatwas McGuane!
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RE: Lumumba
No thanks. Has talent, run, strength and a good 3 years left.
But is a pretentious noodle with an overinflated sense of self-worth.
Pass
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But is a pretentious noodle with an overinflated sense of self-worth.
So you think we can only have one of these types on the list?
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I've seen Sam Frost play a fair bit this year. He is a quality young backman and IMO a better player than his brother. Has good pace and strength. Would take him in a heartbeat.
Jaksch also has a fair bit to offer but he has had limited game time and has been inconsistent. Kicked a ripper goal against the Blues. looks like he might be a slow burner and could take a couple more seasons before he is able to hold his own at AFL level.
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I've seen Sam Frost play a fair bit this year. He is a quality young backman and IMO a better player than his brother. Has good pace and strength. Would take him in a heartbeat.
Jaksch also has a fair bit to offer but he has had limited game time and has been inconsistent. Kicked a ripper goal against the Blues. looks like he might be a slow burner and could take a couple more seasons before he is able to hold his own at AFL level.
tiga - Ive never seen Frost play - long term what type of player would u think he'd develop into?
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De lids is worth 3 picks in the top 10 . Unless GWS were prepared to part with no 3, Boyd and 1 of Tomlinson/Jacsch, anything less would be an insult . In any case won't happen, de lids did his time hard when we were no stuffen good, he could have left for more money at times, he stuck fat coz we were on the march ...he s a proud man de lids
yep
i would want at least the judd deal
de lids best football still ahead of him
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I've seen Sam Frost play a fair bit this year. He is a quality young backman and IMO a better player than his brother. Has good pace and strength. Would take him in a heartbeat.
Jaksch also has a fair bit to offer but he has had limited game time and has been inconsistent. Kicked a ripper goal against the Blues. looks like he might be a slow burner and could take a couple more seasons before he is able to hold his own at AFL level.
tiga - Ive never seen Frost play - long term what type of player would u think he'd develop into?
Tony I see frost developing into a big strong bodied defender like a Heath Grundy type but with better leg speed. In saying that, he's a pretty good kick and could develop into a handy CHF. Has played 16 games for the Giants this season and IMO showed plenty.
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Mick Malthouse is poised for an audacious recruiting bid to extend the AFL playing career of retired Eagles champion Dean Cox.
The former West Coast and current Carlton coach wants Cox to play at least one more season as a back-up ruckman and mentor to big men Robbie Warnock and Cameron Wood.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-coach-mick-malthouse-ponders-dean-cox-recruitment-to-play-and-coach/story-fndv8w9k-1227050015247
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LMAO senility has set in
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Giants utility Kristian Jaksch is meeting with Melbourne clubs, believed to include Carlton and Western Bulldogs, while Jonathan O’Rourke is considering his future according to the Herald Sun and rumouredly linked to Collingwood.
Melbourne have made a bid for Giants key defender Sam Frost according to the Herald Sun.
Former Herald Sun chief football writer Mike Sheahan reported last night that Mitch Clark was seen at the Westpac Centre last Friday. Now linked to both Hawthorn and Collingwood.
Collingwood's Tyson Goldsack is set to turn his back on free agency and Port Adelaide to sign a new deal with the Magpies after speaking with coach Nathan Buckley today according the AFL Website.
Essendon's Kyle Hardingham is likely to seek a trade from the Bombers after a lack of senior opportunities this season according to the AFL Website.
Martin Gleeson and Ben Howlett are among the group of players unsigned for next year.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Whoever the Hawks chase we should chase too, they seem to end up with the best value trades. We tend to go after players the top 4 clubs aren't interested in, I guess there is usually a reason for that.
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We must talk to Sam Frost. This kid is already showing signs that he will be a gun! Bookmark this post. Surely we have more to offer than a toilet of a club like Melbourne.
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We must talk to Sam Frost. This kid is already showing signs that he will be a gun! Bookmark this post. Surely we have more to offer than a toilet of a club like Melbourne.
Has his kicking improved since he was drafted? Bloke struggled to get the ball to hit his foot about 3 years ago. ;D
Pretty sure he was a huge Tigers fan and was on BF at one point, saying RFC were really keen on him. :lol
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Pretty sure he was a huge Tigers fan and was on BF at one point, saying RFC were really keen on him. :lol
I think that was Ramps turning nothing into something
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We must talk to Sam Frost. This kid is already showing signs that he will be a gun! Bookmark this post. Surely we have more to offer than a toilet of a club like Melbourne.
Has his kicking improved since he was drafted? Bloke struggled to get the ball to hit his foot about 3 years ago. ;D
Pretty sure he was a huge Tigers fan and was on BF at one point, saying RFC were really keen on him. :lol
Tigs his kicking has improved immensely. GWS have spent a lot of time developing his kicking and it has shown results. His effective disposal percentage for the season is 75.6 which isn't too shabby. He is a big strong body already and was being selected ahead of Buntine and Plowman for most of the year.
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We must talk to Sam Frost. This kid is already showing signs that he will be a gun! Bookmark this post. Surely we have more to offer than a toilet of a club like Melbourne.
Has his kicking improved since he was drafted? Bloke struggled to get the ball to hit his foot about 3 years ago. ;D
Pretty sure he was a huge Tigers fan and was on BF at one point, saying RFC were really keen on him. :lol
Tigs his kicking has improved immensely. GWS have spent a lot of time developing his kicking and it has shown results. His effective disposal percentage for the season is 75.6 which isn't too shabby. He is a big strong body already and was being selected ahead of Buntine and Plowman for most of the year.
Interesting. Worth an enquiry into price.
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Absolutely Tigs! Shouldn't go for too much but we need to remember that just about every player that has left GWS has gone onto good things. Miles, Tyson, Hombsch are good examples of this.
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Absolutely Tigs! Shouldn't go for too much but we need to remember that just about every player that has left GWS has gone onto good things. Miles, Tyson, Hombsch are good examples of this.
Haven't seen much of him, do you reckon he'd be able to play on the big boys? We don't really need anymore 2nd/3rd type talls. All I can confidently gather from what little I've seen is he is quick
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SEN are reporting that James Frawley to Geelong is a "done deal".
Gold Coast have not ruled out chasing out-of-favour Blue Mitch Robinson. Robinson also posted the tweet - "business or pleasure? #goldcoastin".
Brisbane have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager.
Tyson Goldsack is off the free agency market having signed a three-year deal with Collingwood, that'll keep him at the Pies until at least 2018.
The Western Bulldogs are growing increasingly confident that free agent, Shaun Higgins will re-commit to the club and turn his back on free agency according to the AFL website.
Heritier Lumumba is set to move down the road to the Melbourne Football Club. In a deal that'll see Lumumba head to the Dees, the Pies can expect Mitch Clark back the other way with several teams pulling out of the race for the key forward.
However, Foxsports is saying Essendon coach James Hird has contacted Mitch Clark and his management about a possible move to the Bombers.
Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/dogs-hopeful-on-higgins
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/suns-wont-rule-out-mitch-pitch
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Is it too soon to make a gag about Essendon having some happy pills for Mitch?
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Is jacksch on our radar?
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Is jacksch on our radar?
At 4 or 5 years YES ::)
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Haha Mitch Clarke to pies for Harry O
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Tyson Goldsack is off the free agency market having signed a three-year deal with Collingwood, that'll keep him at the Pies until at least 2018.
Booooo!!!
The Western Bulldogs are growing increasingly confident that free agent, Shaun Higgins will re-commit to the club and turn his back on free agency according to the AFL website.
Yaaaay!!!
Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.
Booooo!!
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Are we in for drug cheat carlise / ryder or sad panda Mitch Clark?
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Are we in for drug cheat carlise / ryder or sad panda Mitch Clark?
Are we in for anyone FFS
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Are we in for drug cheat carlise / ryder or sad panda Mitch Clark?
Are we in for anyone FFS
Hartley just waiting until all the other clubs have announced all of their delistings....
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Are we in for drug cheat carlise / ryder or sad panda Mitch Clark?
Are we in for anyone FFS
Hartley just waiting until all the other clubs have announced all of their delistings....
Woah :shh
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The Lions are confident Paddy Ryder, who has two years to run on a contract, will accept a five-year offer worth an estimated $650,000 a season according to the Herald Sun.
As Many as four clubs with million-dollar offers circled Essendon's Jake Carlisle last week urging him to leave the Bombers under the drugs “get-out clause” according to the Herald Sun.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jake-carlisle-has-clubs-circling-as-essendon-tries-to-deal-with-drugs-getout-clauses/story-fni5f6kv-1227054459825
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Hilarious. Sucked in Essendope
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I'd be trying to get Hibberd to leave under the drugs clause.
Would be our top rebounder and would prevent Houli from being tagged. Handles a tag pretty well himself and can play taller. Bye bye Newman. Batchelor replaced with Astbury and then just need someone to upgrade Morris or hopefully Morris returns to 2013 form.
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Absolutely Tigs! Shouldn't go for too much but we need to remember that just about every player that has left GWS has gone onto good things. Miles, Tyson, Hombsch are good examples of this.
Haven't seen much of him, do you reckon he'd be able to play on the big boys? We don't really need anymore 2nd/3rd type talls. All I can confidently gather from what little I've seen is he is quick
Has already played on a number of quality KPF's and did reasonably well. Probably needs to improve his positional play which will come with experience but he has an excellent leap and spoil.
One think that strikes me about him is he backs himself and gets out of pressure situations really well. Something which he has had to do quite a bit with GWS.
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Hartley just waiting until all the other clubs have announced all of their delistings....
:lol
He's been very busy watching all the reserves games this year to 'discover' the next Hampson.
In all seriousness I'd be having a look at this Lambert bloke from Williamstown. He's only about 22 ( I think ) and he's had a great year. Was superb last week in their huge comeback win. Wins his own ball and has good skills.
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Let's hope we get our free agent next year, won't be this year. :thumbsup
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SEN are reporting that James Frawley to Geelong is a "done deal".
Gold Coast have not ruled out chasing out-of-favour Blue Mitch Robinson. Robinson also posted the tweet - "business or pleasure? #goldcoastin".
Brisbane have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager.
Tyson Goldsack is off the free agency market having signed a three-year deal with Collingwood, that'll keep him at the Pies until at least 2018.
The Western Bulldogs are growing increasingly confident that free agent, Shaun Higgins will re-commit to the club and turn his back on free agency according to the AFL website.
Heritier Lumumba is set to move down the road to the Melbourne Football Club. In a deal that'll see Lumumba head to the Dees, the Pies can expect Mitch Clark back the other way with several teams pulling out of the race for the key forward.
However, Foxsports is saying Essendon coach James Hird has contacted Mitch Clark and his management about a possible move to the Bombers.
Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/dogs-hopeful-on-higgins
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/suns-wont-rule-out-mitch-pitch
And as per usual the RFC will be completely non aggressive, peruse no one of any value and wait until the last moment to pick up a hack...FFS, are we ever going to get involved or linked to any sort of decent player....???
Regardless if it is early days we will maintain this level of involvement the entire way through while players are swapped back and forward between clubs, LAME RFC.....LAME!!!
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Paddy Ryder’s possible departure to Brisbane could force Lion Matthew Leuenberger to find a new home in next month’s trade period. Sources say any move by Ryder would force Leuenberger to reconsider his future at the Lions. Big man Stefan Martin leapfrogged Leuenberger in the ruck pecking order. Both Ryder and Leuenberger are managed by Paul Connors.
Former Geelong premiership ruckman Trent West is also in reserve at Brisbane.
Gold Coast and rival clubs will aggressively pursue Essendon defender Courtenay Dempsey. Dempsey has one year left on his current contract.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-ryders-potential-arrival-at-brisbane-could-leave-matthew-leuenberger-on-outer/story-fndv8d6r-1227055764512
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-eye-courtenay-dempsey-as-suns-look-to-bolster-an-inexperienced-list/story-fndv8hfz-1227055733668
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Are we going for any action on the drug cheats carcass?
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Would love to get some of their pace. Colyer has had a reasonable year.
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Barrett just said the smarter and bigger clubs, which see recruiting as a business decision and hence won't have any sympathy for Essendon, see the potential get-out clause in the AFLPA enterprise bargaining agreement as a sign that it's open season on the Essendon list.
If Paddy Ryder, or any Bomber for that matter, leaves under that clause then these smart clubs see it as part of their due diligence to target the likes of Heppell, Hurley (who has a offer from another club), etc ....
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Get luebuger ffs
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:thumbsup Judge
Could you imagine if Maric goes down for a year.
Problem is we have idiots running the show and w will probably upgrade Conca's brother from the VFL
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SEN are reporting that James Frawley to Geelong is a "done deal".
Gold Coast have not ruled out chasing out-of-favour Blue Mitch Robinson. Robinson also posted the tweet - "business or pleasure? #goldcoastin".
Brisbane have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager.
Tyson Goldsack is off the free agency market having signed a three-year deal with Collingwood, that'll keep him at the Pies until at least 2018.
The Western Bulldogs are growing increasingly confident that free agent, Shaun Higgins will re-commit to the club and turn his back on free agency according to the AFL website.
Heritier Lumumba is set to move down the road to the Melbourne Football Club. In a deal that'll see Lumumba head to the Dees, the Pies can expect Mitch Clark back the other way with several teams pulling out of the race for the key forward.
However, Foxsports is saying Essendon coach James Hird has contacted Mitch Clark and his management about a possible move to the Bombers.
Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/dogs-hopeful-on-higgins
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/suns-wont-rule-out-mitch-pitch
And as per usual the RFC will be completely non aggressive, peruse no one of any value and wait until the last moment to pick up a hack...FFS, are we ever going to get involved or linked to any sort of decent player....???
Regardless if it is early days we will maintain this level of involvement the entire way through while players are swapped back and forward between clubs, LAME RFC.....LAME!!!
Because we keep stuffing ourselves with shyte recruiting & list management and when trade week comes we can't get involved to the extent we need to.
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Get Hibberd and Hurley. Done
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Get Hibberd and Hurley. Done
There's been rumours Hibberd's not happy.
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Get Hurley!
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This is so fun
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We won't be getting anyone. We never do
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Get Hibberd and Hurley. Done
There's been rumours Hibberd's not happy.
His old man is apparently still a Richmond nutter. Probably posts on here.
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Heppell too
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Melbourne has met with St Kilda's discarded defender James Gwilt, who has also attracted the interest of Greater Western Sydney.
Essendon are in no danger of losing Jake Carlisle to another club this year via any "get-out" clause related to the ASADA investigation, according to his management.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/melbourne-demons/melbourne-meet-with-delisted-saint-james-gwilt-20140911-10fpiq.html#ixzz3D26cXvEG
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Heppell too
Heppell was an Essendon supporter growing up.
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Barrett just said the smarter and bigger clubs, which see recruiting as a business decision and hence won't have any sympathy for Essendon, see the potential get-out clause in the AFLPA enterprise bargaining agreement as a sign that it's open season on the Essendon list.
If Paddy Ryder, or any Bomber for that matter, leaves under that clause then these smart clubs see it as part of their due diligence to target the likes of Heppell, Hurley (who has a offer from another club), etc ....
Just looking at this from the other side, what happens if these players being targeted end up at others clubs but then cop an ASADA ban? Wont this leave clubs a player down until the suspension is over? Is it worth it? Let's not forget the ASADA thing is still on going (court case, show cause notices). Also, most on here have been saying the players should be suspended because they cheated. But are now saying we should target some of the said players. Fine to target them but the risk is still there that will get suspended
Just playing "devil's advocate". ;D
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Barrett just said the smarter and bigger clubs, which see recruiting as a business decision and hence won't have any sympathy for Essendon, see the potential get-out clause in the AFLPA enterprise bargaining agreement as a sign that it's open season on the Essendon list.
If Paddy Ryder, or any Bomber for that matter, leaves under that clause then these smart clubs see it as part of their due diligence to target the likes of Heppell, Hurley (who has a offer from another club), etc ....
Just looking at this from the other side, what happens if these players being targeted end up at others clubs but then cop an ASADA ban? Wont this leave clubs a player down until the suspension is over? Is it worth it? Let's not forget the ASADA thing is still on going (court case, show cause notices). Also, most on here have been saying the players should be suspended because they cheated. But are now saying we should target some of the said players. Fine to target them but the risk is still there that will get suspended
Just playing "devil's advocate". ;D
Unless they accept reduced sanctions over the off season. It could be accepting the sanction is what qualifies the breach of duty of care.
Same sentiment as you there though WP.
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if these players should be banned as they should be responsible for their actions, how can they use some get out cause related to lack of duty of care from the club?
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if these players should be banned as they should be responsible for their actions, how can they use some get out cause related to lack of duty of care from the club?
Cause WADA law states
If your a top bloke
And it was completely danks fault
Then it's ok to drug cheat
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WTF? :huh3
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Just DO something RFC.
Don't THINK, DO!
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Get Hibberd and Hurley. Done
There's been rumours Hibberd's not happy.
His old man is apparently still a Richmond nutter. Probably posts on here.
we'd be silly not to enquire
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Get Hibberd and Hurley. Done
There's been rumours Hibberd's not happy.
His old man is apparently still a Richmond nutter. Probably posts on here.
we'd be silly not to enquire
Agreed. We wouldn't bidding against 16 other clubs where we ultimately lose every time. Upgrade Newy and help Houli out.
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According to SEN:
Carlton have reportedly offered a deal to Dean Cox to continue his AFL Career.
Adelaide defender, Jarryd Lyons is thought to want a move back home to Melbourne.
Adelaide have reportedly contacted Ryan Shoenmakers' management about a potential move to the Crows.
Leroy Jetta has been linked with a move to the Eagles.
After only managing seven games in 2014, out-of-favour Cats midfielder Taylor Hunt will weigh up his future once Geelong’s season comes to an end. Source: Triple M.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Dean cox :lol
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Poor mans hampson
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According to SEN:
Carlton have reportedly offered a deal to Dean Cox to continue his AFL Career.
Adelaide defender, Jarryd Lyons is thought to want a move back home to Melbourne.
Adelaide have reportedly contacted Ryan Shoenmakers' management about a potential move to the Crows.
Leroy Jetta has been linked with a move to the Eagles.
After only managing seven games in 2014, out-of-favour Cats midfielder Taylor Hunt will weigh up his future once Geelong’s season comes to an end. Source: Triple M.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Why bother posting stuff off afl off season news? They've never got anything right. It's all make believe
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According to SEN:
Carlton have reportedly offered a deal to Dean Cox to continue his AFL Career.
Adelaide defender, Jarryd Lyons is thought to want a move back home to Melbourne.
Adelaide have reportedly contacted Ryan Shoenmakers' management about a potential move to the Crows.
Leroy Jetta has been linked with a move to the Eagles.
After only managing seven games in 2014, out-of-favour Cats midfielder Taylor Hunt will weigh up his future once Geelong’s season comes to an end. Source: Triple M.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Why bother posting stuff off afl off season news? They've never got anything right. It's all make believe
(1) It's from mainstream news sources (SEN, MMM) and (2) every year 99% of trade rumours are never right but we still discuss them ;D.
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Paul Roos wants pick No.3 in the NAB AFL Draft as compensation if unrestricted free agent James Frawley walks out on the club.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-12/roos-wants-pick-no3-for-frawley
SEN saying:
Giants midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke has been linked with a trade to Collingwood, Carlton & St Kilda. Apparently he was a Tiger supporter before being drafted.
Former Saint Clint Jones has been linked to Melbourne and the Gold Coast Suns.
Melbourne has been linked to out-of-favour Bulldog Jason Tutt.
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I'd like us to get our hands on the Bulldogs pick 5, maybe our pick 11 and Asbury?
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I'd like us to get our hands on the Bulldogs pick 5, maybe our pick 11 and Asbury?
Astbury isn't an option for trade seeing he only re-signed a fortnight ago
IMV looking at blokes not yet re-signed that played over the last 10 or so weeks are the trade options
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We are not gonna get any decent names coming to RFC. They will be more Hartley Brotherhood Bin types where he hopes that they turn out like Miles and not Hampson types which is what we usually end up with.
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I'd like us to get our hands on the Bulldogs pick 5, maybe our pick 11 and Asbury?
Id rather pick 11 and Vickery, dogs want a fwd not a backman
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Paul Roos wants pick No.3 in the NAB AFL Draft as compensation if unrestricted free agent James Frawley walks out on the club.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-12/roos-wants-pick-no3-for-frawley
SEN saying:
Giants midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke has been linked with a trade to Collingwood, Carlton & St Kilda. Apparently he was a Tiger supporter before being drafted.
Former Saint Clint Jones has been linked to Melbourne and the Gold Coast Suns.
Melbourne has been linked to out-of-favour Bulldog Jason Tutt.
why would he play for Collingwood or Carlton then ?
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I'd like us to get our hands on the Bulldogs pick 5, maybe our pick 11 and Asbury?
Id rather pick 11 and Vickery, dogs want a fwd not a backman
Agree unless they had designs on playing Astbury as a forward. Was where he started.
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Lol pick 3 compo for frawley, my mail is it's r2 :shh
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wouldn't put it past the afl to say no to a compo pick but then give them a 1st rounder immediately following their pick for Frawley. On form the past 2 years and given the contract he has signed (tipping its 5-6 years) an end of first rounder is fair. I do not want that wanker club to keep getting high picks - enough already ffs
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Gold Coast have not ruled out chasing out-of-favour Blue Mitch Robinson. Robinson also posted the tweet - "business or pleasure? #goldcoastin".
That makes me think he is a smart operator that has learnt a lesson from his mistakes. ::)
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Get luebuger ffs
x 2 (even allowing for Bents normal fat fingered typing) :)
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All quiet at RFC this trade period.
No free agents. :thumbsup
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They're happy with the list I reckon
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They're happy with the list I reckon
LMAO
It's true.
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James Frawley is the only player Geelong is targeting in the upcoming trade and free agency period, says coach Chris Scott.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/frawley-our-only-target-scott
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How can you say we re happy with the list when we ll be making min 10 changes , quite possibly 1-2 more . I recall TW making 4 changes once after finishing bottom ::)
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James Frawley is the only player Geelong is targeting in the upcoming trade and free agency period, says coach Chris Scott.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/frawley-our-only-target-scott
Done deal has been for sometime
Only club he wanted to go to
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James Frawley is the only player Geelong is targeting in the upcoming trade and free agency period, says coach Chris Scott.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/frawley-our-only-target-scott
Done deal has been for sometime
Only club he wanted to go to
only club giving him the $$$ wanted you mean ?
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James Frawley is the only player Geelong is targeting in the upcoming trade and free agency period, says coach Chris Scott.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/frawley-our-only-target-scott
Done deal has been for sometime
Only club he wanted to go to
only club giving him the $$$ wanted you mean ?
Nah won't be getting the $800k a season reported he wanted.
Was always going to go to cats for less than reported but will get the 5 years he wants
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How can you say we re happy with the list when we ll be making min 10 changes , quite possibly 1-2 more . I recall TW making 4 changes once after finishing bottom ::)
Yes, and he was poo.
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Essendon's Brendon Goddard has branded rival clubs as unethical for inviting Essendon players to break their contracts under a duty-of-care clause.
Jake Carlisle, Michael Hurley and Patrick Ryder are all reportedly attracting interest from rival clubs, as speculation mounts that Ryder may join the Brisbane Lions.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-14/rival-clubs-unethical-bj
Paddy Ryder could walk out on Essendon as early as this week, however the Bombers are demanding a high pick and a senior player in return for Ryder.
The Bombers are understood to be ready to file court action should Ryder walk out on the club whilst contracted, through an AFL player association rule that allows Essendon players to move freely to another club due to the on-going drugs saga which created an 'unsafe work environment'.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-are-adamant-paddy-ryder-would-only-leave-the-club-if-it-were-adequately-compensated/story-fndv8gad-1227057602307
Hawthorn has put a line through Demons big man Mitch Clark.
Mitch Robinson is finding the job of attracting new suitors hard. The Blues midfielder has attracted little interest so far, with rivals aware of his on and off-field weaknesses.
Eagle Callum Sinclair is third in line in the Eagles’ ruck pecking order and could be lured elsewhere. The Eagles will trade Sinclair if a satisfactory deal is offered. He has played nine games in two years.
Gold Coast big man Daniel Gorringe is also looking for more senior opportunity.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-rule-out-play-for-mitch-clark-no-takers-for-mitch-robinson-and-more-in-the-sunday-session/story-fnahrqwo-1227058074164
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Rumours that Adelaide have offered Jake Carlisle $3.5m over 5 years and are also interested in Hawthorn's Ryan Schoenmakers and Kangaroo Levi Greenwood.
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Other clubs unethical?
As unethical as administering your players with 'we don't know what/how much' injected pharmaceuticals without proper and informed consent?
GTFO.
I'd be happy if we threw an offer at Carlisle.
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Surely that wouldn't be enough to entice Carlisle interstate. Could offer a bit less and keep him in Vic.
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Gold Coast big man Daniel Gorringe is also looking for more senior opportunity.
Yes please, a very definite upgrade on the Big O and more ability in his little finger than Hamspud's entire body. Has a lot of potential and not getting a crack due to 2 good 'uns in front of him.
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we don't need carlisle our KPP stocks are an embarrassment of riches, outside of our finals starting 18 we had TV, astbury and Mcbean. we re the envy of 17 other clubs :shh
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we don't need carlisle our KPP stocks are an embarrassment of riches, outside of our finals starting 18 we had TV, astbury and Mcbean. we re the envy of 17 other clubs :shh
If we are as good as you say Bo, why did we finish 8th and get thrashed by Port?
Sheesh.............
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we don't need carlisle our KPP stocks are an embarrassment of riches, outside of our finals starting 18 we had TV, astbury and Mcbean. we re the envy of 17 other clubs :shh
If we intended to go after a 'big fish' this year Carlisle would be my #1 priority. He would be an upgrade (by a lot) on any of our "embarrassment of riches" KPP stocks and if we got him it would allow us to trade a Vickery or Griffiths or Astbury which would then allow us to upgrade on another position. Win win. Big time.
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Rumours that Adelaide have offered Jake Carlisle $3.5m over 5 years and are also interested in Hawthorn's Ryan Schoenmakers and Kangaroo Levi Greenwood.
Unethical
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Conca for Sinclair - GET IT DONE
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Conca for Sinclair - GET IT DONE
......we can do better
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James Frawley is the only player Geelong is targeting in the upcoming trade and free agency period, says coach Chris Scott.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/frawley-our-only-target-scott
Done deal has been for sometime
Only club he wanted to go to
only club giving him the $$$ wanted you mean ?
Nah won't be getting the $800k a season reported he wanted.
Was always going to go to cats for less than reported but will get the 5 years he wants
and why aren't we targeting him ?
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Rumours that Adelaide have offered Jake Carlisle $3.5m over 5 years and are also interested in Hawthorn's Ryan Schoenmakers and Kangaroo Levi Greenwood.
where the **** do Adelaide get the cash
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Conca for Sinclair - GET IT DONE
Sinclair plus an upgrade, their second rounder for our third rounder.
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Who s Sinclair play for? ::)
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From the Herald-Sun ...
Port Adelaide, Essendon and Adelaide are chasing Gold Coast's Daniel Gorringe who reportedly has told the club he wants a trade for opportunity elsewhere. Gorringe, who was out of contract last season signed a two-year deal until the end of 2015, despite an initial request to return home to South Australia in 2014.
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and why aren't we targeting him ?
What is the point of "targeting" someone who clearly doesn't want to come to your club?
Unless of course you want to pay way over what he is worth
He wanted to go to the Cats, no other clubs had a chance no point in targeting
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Conca for Sinclair - GET IT DONE
Sinclair plus an upgrade, their second rounder for our third rounder.
If we can yep,
Better than lycett imo, been starved of opps thus far.
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That's the thing TM that annoys me
Not saying I wouldn't do that trade of Conca for Sinclair
Pick 6 for a former rookie ruckman.
FJ be proud of Conca and that fantastic decision to recruit him. :banghead :banghead
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Who s Sinclair play for? ::)
North Melbourne, came over from Freo a couple of seasons ago.
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and why aren't we targeting him ?
What is the point of "targeting" someone who clearly doesn't want to come to your club?
Unless of course you want to pay way over what he is worth
He wanted to go to the Cats, no other clubs had a chance no point in targeting
If we gave him the same amount of $$$ as the cats he'd come. They're gone
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If we gave him the same amount of $$$ as the cats he'd come. They're gone
Nope
Only chance other clubs had was to offer him more, a lot more and hope he'd be seduced by the $$$ signs ala Mitch Clarke going to Melb 3 years ago
But wants to go to the Cats and that's where he'll end up
Who cares, he ain't worth $800k a year ;D
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Frawley, meh.
Gaddy Lyon is right on this one, he is a liability with ball in hand.
Great to see the cats, getting these types in...Rivers anyone.
Their reign is nearly done, dim sims soon enough.
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If we gave him the same amount of $$$ as the cats he'd come. They're gone
Nope
Only chance other clubs had was to offer him more, a lot more and hope he'd be seduced by the $$$ signs ala Mitch Clarke going to Melb 3 years ago
But wants to go to the Cats and that's where he'll end up
Who cares, he ain't worth $800k a year ;D
We aren't offering him what the Cats are. If we did it would be a different story. But Richmond don't poach good players, only hacks.
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If we gave him the same amount of $$$ as the cats he'd come. They're gone
Nope
Only chance other clubs had was to offer him more, a lot more and hope he'd be seduced by the $$$ signs ala Mitch Clarke going to Melb 3 years ago
But wants to go to the Cats and that's where he'll end up
Who cares, he ain't worth $800k a year ;D
We aren't offering him what the Cats are. If we did it would be a different story. But Richmond don't poach good players, only hacks.
Hampson 330k, Thomas 200k, Newman 300k, Grigg 300k, Mcmahon 330k, Edwards 200k,
ooh dear
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If we gave him the same amount of $$$ as the cats he'd come. They're gone
Nope
Only chance other clubs had was to offer him more, a lot more and hope he'd be seduced by the $$$ signs ala Mitch Clarke going to Melb 3 years ago
But wants to go to the Cats and that's where he'll end up
Who cares, he ain't worth $800k a year ;D
We aren't offering him what the Cats are. If we did it would be a different story. But Richmond don't poach good players, only hacks.
Hampson 330k, Thomas 200k, Newman 300k, Grigg 300k, Mcmahon 330k, Edwards 200k,
ooh dear
all shouldn't be on the list, there's your star player
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Or two
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definately 2 if you throw in that steal from melbourne we got, Petterd or the ever reliable Knights. There's another 500k
If FJ the hack did his job properly we would have some handy 3rd rounders/rookie on minimal wages ready to fill the void of those i mentioned that are stealing our clubs money for producing little to nothing.
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definately 2 if you throw in that steal from melbourne we got, Petterd or the ever reliable Knights. There's another 500k
If FJ the hack did his job properly we would have some handy 3rd rounders/rookie on minimal wages ready to fill the void of those i mentioned that are stealing our clubs money for producing little to nothing.
bang!
get a couple of guns for big $$ then load up on kids on minimum wages instead of your griggs, newmans, Thomas's, petterds etc - who knows, you may even unearth a gem out of the box unlooked for, ala Miles...
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Just DO something RFC.
Don't THINK, DO!
Theres been a bit too much of that by the Tiges over the years. Lets hope they take the opposite tack,
Just DO some thinking RFC!
Think, then DO!!!
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definately 2 if you throw in that steal from melbourne we got, Petterd or the ever reliable Knights. There's another 500k
If FJ the hack did his job properly we would have some handy 3rd rounders/rookie on minimal wages ready to fill the void of those i mentioned that are stealing our clubs money for producing little to nothing.
bang!
get a couple of guns for big $$ then load up on kids on minimum wages instead of your griggs, newmans, Thomas's, petterds etc - who knows, you may even unearth a gem out of the box unlooked for, ala Miles...
Agree with Tony M- get in a couple of stars and load up on kids. But don't let FJ anywhere near draft night.
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Arguing over who's more incompetent & culpable out of Hackson & Hartley is a bit like arguing over whether it's preferable to be burned alive or boiled alive.
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Arguing over who's more incompetent & culpable out of Hackson & Hartley is a bit like arguing over whether it's preferable to be burned alive or boiled alive.
Poor analogy. Its Burnt. The brain synapses go into shock more quickly and the natural painkillers kick in.
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Hawthorn’s 204cm Luke Lowden, 23, who has played just one senior game with the club in six years, is a player and a number of other clubs will look at, particularly given his ability to also play forward as evidenced by three goals on his senior debut this year.
Fremantle coach Ross Lyon confirmed his club’s interested in Melbourne defender James Frawley but said any deal was a long way off. Frawley flew to Perth on Monday to meet the Dockers, who are likely to lose long-time defender Luke McPharlin to retirement.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/trade-whispers-young-cats-on-the-block-crows-talk-to-okeefe-freo-keep-eye-on-frawley/story-e6frf3e3-1227060700915
Heritier Lumumba remains in Northern Australia but will return over the weekend to meet with at least two more clubs. They are believed to include a WA-based club and another Melbourne club after he met Demons coach Paul Roos recently.
Collingwood has met Mitch Clark twice at the Westpac Centre and seems prepared to take the risk of recruiting him despite his foot and soft-tissue problems.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/heritier-lumumba-set-to-leave-collingwood-while-melbourne-forward-mitch-clark-eyes-magpies/story-e6frf3e3-1227060688975
Speed demon Johann Wagner will have a clutch of AFL clubs to choose his destination from if he is crowned the inaugural winner of The Recruit tonight. Those close to Wagner believe Melbourne and Port Adelaide are strong chances to secure for the 23-year-old, while Gold Coast, GWS and St Kilda could also make bids. Fremantle has also tracked the show closely.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/johann-wagner-expected-to-win-afl-contract-via-the-recruit/story-e6frf33l-1227060618623
Port Adelaide's John Butcher may seek a trade back to Victoria for further opportunities after only playing the 3 Games for the Power this season.
According to SEN:
Multiple clubs are after Sydney's Tom Mitchell, Carlton have been reported as the club who have had the most interest after being linked to the midfielder all season.
North Melbourne's Liam Anthony remains out of contract and could seek a trade for further opportunities after only playing nine games for the Roos this season.
Fremantle's Matthew De Boer remains out of contract and could seek for further opportunities after only playing 13 games this season after playing all 25 last year.
Brisbane's Matthew Leuenberger may be available for trade if the Lions can secure Essendon's Patrick Ryder.
Port Adelaide have joined the race for Paddy Ryder according to Caro on Footy Classified. However, Brisbane are still favourites given it's believed Ryder wants to live in a non-AFL dominant state.
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Hawthorn’s 204cm Luke Lowden, 23, who has played just one senior game with the club in six years, is a player and a number of other clubs will look at, particularly given his ability to also play forward as evidenced by three goals on his senior debut this year.
Fremantle coach Ross Lyon confirmed his club’s interested in Melbourne defender James Frawley but said any deal was a long way off. Frawley flew to Perth on Monday to meet the Dockers, who are likely to lose long-time defender Luke McPharlin to retirement.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/trade-whispers-young-cats-on-the-block-crows-talk-to-okeefe-freo-keep-eye-on-frawley/story-e6frf3e3-1227060700915
Heritier Lumumba remains in Northern Australia but will return over the weekend to meet with at least two more clubs. They are believed to include a WA-based club and another Melbourne club after he met Demons coach Paul Roos recently.
Collingwood has met Mitch Clark twice at the Westpac Centre and seems prepared to take the risk of recruiting him despite his foot and soft-tissue problems.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/heritier-lumumba-set-to-leave-collingwood-while-melbourne-forward-mitch-clark-eyes-magpies/story-e6frf3e3-1227060688975
Speed demon Johann Wagner will have a clutch of AFL clubs to choose his destination from if he is crowned the inaugural winner of The Recruit tonight. Those close to Wagner believe Melbourne and Port Adelaide are strong chances to secure for the 23-year-old, while Gold Coast, GWS and St Kilda could also make bids. Fremantle has also tracked the show closely.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/johann-wagner-expected-to-win-afl-contract-via-the-recruit/story-e6frf33l-1227060618623
Port Adelaide's John Butcher may seek a trade back to Victoria for further opportunities after only playing the 3 Games for the Power this season.
According to SEN:
Multiple clubs are after Sydney's Tom Mitchell, Carlton have been reported as the club who have had the most interest after being linked to the midfielder all season.
North Melbourne's Liam Anthony remains out of contract and could seek a trade for further opportunities after only playing nine games for the Roos this season.
Fremantle's Matthew De Boer remains out of contract and could seek for further opportunities after only playing 13 games this season after playing all 25 last year.
Brisbane's Matthew Leuenberger may be available for trade if the Lions can secure Essendon's Patrick Ryder.
Port Adelaide have joined the race for Paddy Ryder according to Caro on Footy Classified. However, Brisbane are still favourites given it's believed Ryder wants to live in a non-AFL dominant state.
So what are we doing...... :whistle
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Higgins :clapping
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welcome to Punt Road Matty De Boar, you will fit in nicely with your pace
you will have a good career in 2015 before we delist you
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welcome to Punt Road Matty De Boar, you will fit in nicely with your pace
you will have a good career in 2015 before we delist you
In all seriousness, Matt De Boer is a very good player. Good small forward who can lead up and has a good defensive side to his game. Could do worse than look at him IMV
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welcome to Punt Road Matty De Boar, you will fit in nicely with your pace
you will have a good career in 2015 before we delist you
In all seriousness, Matt De Boer is a very good player. Good small forward who can lead up and has a good defensive side to his game. Could do worse than look at him IMV
yeah na il pass. No more slow spuds who cant kick
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welcome to Punt Road Matty De Boar, you will fit in nicely with your pace
you will have a good career in 2015 before we delist you
In all seriousness, Matt De Boer is a very good player. Good small forward who can lead up and has a good defensive side to his game. Could do worse than look at him IMV
yeah na il pass. No more slow spuds who cant kick
He's a very good kick. Would be an upgrade on a few others we have ;D
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and why aren't we targeting him ?
What is the point of "targeting" someone who clearly doesn't want to come to your club?
Unless of course you want to pay way over what he is worth
He wanted to go to the Cats, no other clubs had a chance no point in targeting
Seems strange that he is meeting other clubs now?????????
Maybe they think they are a chance if they offer him something Geelong cannot. Weird!!
Strange times these! :rollin
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welcome to Punt Road Matty De Boar, you will fit in nicely with your pace
you will have a good career in 2015 before we delist you
In all seriousness, Matt De Boer is a very good player. Good small forward who can lead up and has a good defensive side to his game. Could do worse than look at him IMV
yeah na il pass. No more slow spuds who cant kick
He's a very good kick. Would be an upgrade on a few others we have ;D
The Pig !!!
Cannot kick a jam tin, although rumours persist that the preference is for apple sauce.
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and why aren't we targeting him ?
What is the point of "targeting" someone who clearly doesn't want to come to your club?
Unless of course you want to pay way over what he is worth
He wanted to go to the Cats, no other clubs had a chance no point in targeting
Seems strange that he is meeting other clubs now?????????
Maybe they think they are a chance if they offer him something Geelong cannot. Weird!!
Strange times these! :rollin
Not really
Does it prove the other theory and that is only about the money with him? Would appear so; someone silly enough to offer him the $800k and he'll become a pollie = flip flop
As I said in a previous thread which you've somehow managed to avoid
Only chance other clubs had was to offer him more, a lot more and hope he'd be seduced by the $$$ signs ala Mitch Clarke going to Melb 3 years ago
But wants to go to the Cats and that's where he'll end up
Who cares, he ain't worth $800k a year ;D
I still reckon he'll end up at Geelong and that he aint worth $800k a year
And I really don't care ;D ;D
And BTW....
Interestingly it would seem the RFC isn't interested either. Maybe good 'ole Blair doesn't rate him. Because if Blair doesn't rate then we don't chase them ;) ;D
:rollin :lol
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WP do you even want anyone to come to Richmond? Always with the "this guy will end up here, that guy there" talk
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WP do you even want anyone to come to Richmond? Always with the "this guy will end up here, that guy there" talk
Plenty I would want but Frawley isn't one of them at the price he is putting on his head to other clubs than Geelong ;D
I am not an advocate of saying let's get a FA simple becuase there are Free Agents out there.
This year's crop wasn't that inspiring.
But there are plenty of players I would want if they were available, reality is the ones I'd like to see are unlikely to leave there current clubs.
Would love to see the club chase a top liner at the trade table but history tells me the RFC aren't big on that either ;D
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Only Tom Mitchell interests me from that list. Would be a great help to Miles who will have a lot of work put into him next season by opposition clubs. If Mitchell would accept say 250k-300k a season I think he would be a good get.
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Mitchells on 4-450k per season already - no way he'd drop that low,
Word is he's pretty much set on carlton - but yeah I'd love to get him, think thats the type of player we should be going after, why pay higgibs 350-400k when you can get mitchell for 4-450k?
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Only Tom Mitchell interests me from that list. Would be a great help to Miles who will have a lot of work put into him next season by opposition clubs. If Mitchell would accept say 250k-300k a season I think he would be a good get.
Yeah but Mitchell isn't a free agent. You'd need to do a trade and I can't see us giving what would be needed yo get him
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Isn't Mitchell contracted until 2016? I know he's up for leaving for game time but you would have to take over his current contract (unless he accepted less but I doubt it would be by much) and satisfy Sydney with a pretty decent trade.
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I think we should look at Lowden. Been in the Hawthorn system for a while and would be an upgrade on Hampson and Stephenson.
Tom Mitchell would be a good get.
As for the rest ?
Leuenberger can play but he's always injured.
Liam Anthony is just a player
Butcher is exactly that.
De Boer has less ticker than Grigg and Houli combined. Absolute pea heart.
Frawley is massively overrated.
Lamumba and Mitch Clark are head cases
Ryder ? Everyone's saying Port or Brisbane but my mail is Sydney or GWS. Will laugh if Sydney gets him.
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I think we should look at Lowden. Been in the Hawthorn system for a while and would be an upgrade on Hampson and Stephenson.
Can you pump him up any better than that?
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I think we should look at Lowden. Been in the Hawthorn system for a while and would be an upgrade on Hampson and Stephenson.
Tom Mitchell would be a good get.
As for the rest ?
Leuenberger can play but he's always injured.
Liam Anthony is just a player
Butcher is exactly that.
De Boer has less ticker than Grigg and Houli combined. Absolute pea heart.
Frawley is massively overrated.
Lamumba and Mitch Clark are head cases
Ryder ? Everyone's saying Port or Brisbane but my mail is Sydney or GWS. Will laugh if Sydney gets him.
Dice I can't see Ryder going to GWS. They have a stack of forward and ruck options. If he did go there then lets see if they would be willing to offload either Giles, Downie or Lobb for Batchelor. Even Phillips would be an upgrade on Hampson. I say we need to focus on GWS as there are a ton of quality players not getting a crack in such a top heavy side.
Apart from Frost who is a regular in the 1sts, Here is a list of players sitting in their Magoo's that I would be interested in
Sumner
Giles
Hampton
Lamb
O'Rourke
Phillips
Lobb
James Stewart
Downie
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Apparently, Brisbane are offering Paddy Ryder $2.5 over 4 years. Port, GWS and Sydney are the only other clubs interested in Ryder.
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Can't see why we wouldn't be
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Apparently, Brisbane are offering Paddy Ryder $2.5 over 4 years. Port, GWS and Sydney are the only other clubs interested in Ryder.
$625K per year (assuming he is eligible to play for each of those 4 years) is money well spent IMO.
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Geelong reportedly set to sign Irishman Padraig Lucey from The Recruit.
Waylon Manson from The Recruit allegedly seen down at the Westpac Centre.
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I think we should look at Lowden. Been in the Hawthorn system for a while and would be an upgrade on Hampson and Stephenson.
Can you pump him up any better than that?
lol , yeh I guess a Kmart mannequin would be an upgrade on those two.
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Dice I can't see Ryder going to GWS.
Yeh me either really. Sydney is my tip. They've got no rucks and they usually get who they want.
And I agree we should be looking hard at GWS. Reckon most clubs would be after the Anthony Miles success story.
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Dice I can't see Ryder going to GWS.
Yeh me either really. Sydney is my tip. They've got no rucks and they usually get who they want.
And I agree we should be looking hard at GWS. Reckon most clubs would be after the Anthony Miles success story.
I agree dice that Sydney would be a more realistic fit. In saying that, GWS had a big tilt at Buddy and ended up with Mummy who cost nowhere near what they were offering Buddy so they may still have a legitimate crack. Swans will need to clear some cap space hence the interest in Mitchell.
I've watched a few GWS magoo games this year and there is some real talent there. They only lost 3 games all year and lost in the prelim to Aspley who ended up being premiers for 2014 beating the Swans Reserves in the Grand final.
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Sam Blease has asked Melbourne to be traded. What is he worth. I would say a 4th round pick.
Tigers should be all over him and he fits the bill in terms of speed and x factor.
If Blues get him I'll spew up!!!
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Sam Blease has asked Melbourne to be traded. What is he worth. I would say a 4th round pick.
Tigers should be all over him and he fits the bill in terms of speed and x factor.
If Blues get him I'll spew up!!!
He is going to the Blues. He has told this to someone that posts on BF who is a personal friend of his.
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I think we should look at Lowden. Been in the Hawthorn system for a while and would be an upgrade on Hampson and Stephenson.
Can you pump him up any better than that?
lol , yeh I guess a Kmart mannequin would be an upgrade on those two.
I wouldn't walk into a K Mart anytime soon Dice.
I hear that the K Mart mannequin fraternity is up in arms over your abusive comments :lol
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Snip :banghead :banghead
Happy to share a joke but when a thread gets hijacked with off topic non footy talk like this one clearly did it gets snipped
Back to the topic folks
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Fremantle have now officially tabled a $3 million offer on a five-year contract deal for free agent James Frawley, which trumps Geelong’s 2.5 million for the same length of contract.
Jarrad Waite is understood to have now also held discussions with Dockers management and will become an even higher priority recruit if Frawley does not head west. Waite and his management have apparently been offered just a one-year extension offer from Carlton, while North Melbourne has made a similar overture with an option of a second-season depending on his 2015 performances.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-offers-james-frawley-3-million-fiveyear-deal-carlton-forward-jarrad-waite-also-on-radar/story-fndv8h5w-1227061568883
The Bulldogs are adamant Will Minson, contracted until the end of 2016, is going nowhere despite rival clubs believing he is available. Collingwood had made enquires because it had heard rumours of discontent regarding Minson.
http://www.news.com.au/national/brendan-mccartney-tough-love-fuels-talk-of-discontent-at-western-bulldogs/story-e6frfkp9-1227061803973
Port Adelaide have reportedly shown interest in Fremantle's Jon Griffen. Griffen has played 18 games for Peel Thunder in the WAFL but remains behind Zac Clarke as 2nd choice ruckman.
According to 3aw:
Kristian Jaksch could be bound for the Western Bulldogs since the Dogs have become "confident" of luring the homesick key position forward/defender. Jaksch, who grew up a Western Bulldogs supporter is set to accept a five-year deal from the Bulldogs.
Lions CEO Greg Swann has confirmed that Brisbane has met with Mitch Robinson and his management regarding a move to Queensland.
Luke Tapscott has requested a trade to Carlton according to Triple M.
Magpie Dayne Beams has rejected an offer to head to Brisbane according to SEN.
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stuff. Every club is linked to someone except us in the media. I would be happy to be linked to a dud just so it makes it look like we are doing something and actually give a poo.
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Champ people who think like you are the reason we recruit duds. We want to be seen to be doing something. Do it once do it right.
Tom Mitchell and cheap GWS's are the only ones available that are worth looking at.
Jon Griffen would be worth a look if we hadn't recruited Humpson.
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Champ people who think like you are the reason we recruit duds. We want to be seen to be doing something. Do it once do it right.
Tom Mitchell and cheap GWS's are the only ones available that are worth looking at.
Jon Griffen would be worth a look if we hadn't recruited Humpson.
:clapping
:yep
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Fremantle have now officially tabled a $3 million offer on a five-year contract deal for free agent James Frawley, which trumps Geelong’s 2.5 million for the same length of contract.
Jarrad Waite is understood to have now also held discussions with Dockers management and will become an even higher priority recruit if Frawley does not head west. Waite and his management have apparently been offered just a one-year extension offer from Carlton, while North Melbourne has made a similar overture with an option of a second-season depending on his 2015 performances.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-offers-james-frawley-3-million-fiveyear-deal-carlton-forward-jarrad-waite-also-on-radar/story-fndv8h5w-1227061568883
The Bulldogs are adamant Will Minson, contracted until the end of 2016, is going nowhere despite rival clubs believing he is available. Collingwood had made enquires because it had heard rumours of discontent regarding Minson.
http://www.news.com.au/national/brendan-mccartney-tough-love-fuels-talk-of-discontent-at-western-bulldogs/story-e6frfkp9-1227061803973
Port Adelaide have reportedly shown interest in Fremantle's Jon Griffen. Griffen has played 18 games for Peel Thunder in the WAFL but remains behind Zac Clarke as 2nd choice ruckman.
According to 3aw:
Kristian Jaksch could be bound for the Western Bulldogs since the Dogs have become "confident" of luring the homesick key position forward/defender. Jaksch, who grew up a Western Bulldogs supporter is set to accept a five-year deal from the Bulldogs.
Lions CEO Greg Swann has confirmed that Brisbane has met with Mitch Robinson and his management regarding a move to Queensland.
Luke Tapscott has requested a trade to Carlton according to Triple M.
Magpie Dayne Beams has rejected an offer to head to Brisbane according to SEN.
So much rubbish reporting....Jaksch was most definitely a richmond supporter growing up..
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Champ people who think like you are the reason we recruit duds. We want to be seen to be doing something. Do it once do it right.
Tom Mitchell and cheap GWS's are the only ones available that are worth looking at.
Jon Griffen would be worth a look if we hadn't recruited Humpson.
this is 100% right ... Tom Mitchell would be good for us and if we can supplement with a kid from GWS who has a bit of talent like Miles then we would have smashed this trade period out of the water.
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Tom Mitchell is still under contract.
Sydney does not have to deal with anyone.
He first needs to say he wants to leave and then needs to nominate us. Carlton has been at him for months as his dad played with them too.
If by some miracle he does nominate us we have to come up with a trade that Sydney will accept......
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Champ people who think like you are the reason we recruit duds. We want to be seen to be doing something. Do it once do it right.
Tom Mitchell and cheap GWS's are the only ones available that are worth looking at.
Jon Griffen would be worth a look if we hadn't recruited Humpson.
this is 100% right ... Tom Mitchell would be good for us and if we can supplement with a kid from GWS who has a bit of talent like Miles then we would have smashed this trade period out of the water.
Mitchell inside mid and Frost a KPD are must haves if we are to take the next step and win a final.
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Tom Mitchell is still under contract.
Sydney does not have to deal with anyone.
He first needs to say he wants to leave and then needs to nominate us. Carlton has been at him for months as his dad played with them too.
If by some miracle he does nominate us we have to come up with a trade that Sydney will accept......
So?
Not in Sydney best 22
He would want to come here rather than play NSW reserve league
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Tom Mitchell is still under contract.
Sydney does not have to deal with anyone.
He first needs to say he wants to leave and then needs to nominate us. Carlton has been at him for months as his dad played with them too.
If by some miracle he does nominate us we have to come up with a trade that Sydney will accept......
So?
Not in Sydney best 22
He would want to come here rather than play NSW reserve league
What do you mean by so?
A contract is a contract. The guy is obliged by law to follow it. If he breaks it he goes in the draft and St.Kilda probably picks him up in the PSD or a team gives up their top draft choice in the ND. Otherwise Sydney have to agree to trade. They can play hard ball as he isn't critical to them and can afford to let him walk.
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I honestly cant see and we wont see Richmond make a go for Mitchell the only one I can see us having a real go for is Jake Carlise if he decides to walk out of Essendon that will spell the end to vickery if that's the case... play him up forward with jack, griff would look good....
I would like us to go for another mid as that would allow us to leave dusty up forward a lot more and utlise his one on one skills and have another option like the odd days with nash and duffy
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Ruckman Jonathan Giles is seeking a trade from Greater Western Sydney after struggling for opportunities behind Shane Mumford in 2014. Giles is happy to move ‘anywhere’ in the country to revive his playing career, and isn’t necessarily seeking out a move back to South Australia during the trade period. Giles has one year left to run on his contract, but the Giants are sympathetic to his situation and are happy to assist him to broker a trade to resurrect his career. Should Giles find no suitors, he is happy to remain at the Giants and play out his current contract.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-18/giant-wants-out
Andy Maher on SEN today is claiming Paddy Ryder is going to the Swans with Adam Goodes to retire.
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Think we should target Giles
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Ruckman Jonathan Giles is seeking a trade from Greater Western Sydney after struggling for opportunities behind Shane Mumford in 2014. Giles is happy to move ‘anywhere’ in the country to revive his playing career, and isn’t necessarily seeking out a move back to South Australia during the trade period. Giles has one year left to run on his contract, but the Giants are sympathetic to his situation and are happy to assist him to broker a trade to resurrect his career. Should Giles find no suitors, he is happy to remain at the Giants and play out his current contract.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-18/giant-wants-out
Andy Maher on SEN today is claiming Paddy Ryder is going to the Swans with Adam Goodes to retire.
Eddie would be furious
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Think we should target Giles
Agree
Would be cheap
Perhaps a straight swap For Hampson :rollin
Seriously, doubt that it would take much 3rd round pick?
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Think we should target Giles
Agree
Would be cheap
Perhaps a straight swap For Hampson :rollin
Seriously, doubt that it would take much 3rd round pick?
Thats what I was thinking - his currency has dropped so shouldnt cost much and he's a very capable ruckman imv
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Tom Mitchell is still under contract.
Sydney does not have to deal with anyone.
He first needs to say he wants to leave and then needs to nominate us. Carlton has been at him for months as his dad played with them too.
If by some miracle he does nominate us we have to come up with a trade that Sydney will accept......
So?
Not in Sydney best 22
He would want to come here rather than play NSW reserve league
What do you mean by so?
A contract is a contract. The guy is obliged by law to follow it. If he breaks it he goes in the draft and St.Kilda probably picks him up in the PSD or a team gives up their top draft choice in the ND. Otherwise Sydney have to agree to trade. They can play hard ball as he isn't critical to them and can afford to let him walk.
Swans cannot play hardball with him.
Why would they want him to run around in the twos again if they are wasting 400k odd on him. They need the cap room.
A team will get him for a pick in the 20's IMO. And I would be happy to give that for him.
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Agree on Giles but wonder what incentive for him given he goes from 3rd choice at Freo to 3rd choice at Richmond?
Rightly or wrongly the club would see him behind Griff and Vickery as back up to Ivvy
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Tom Mitchell is still under contract.
Sydney does not have to deal with anyone.
He first needs to say he wants to leave and then needs to nominate us. Carlton has been at him for months as his dad played with them too.
If by some miracle he does nominate us we have to come up with a trade that Sydney will accept......
So?
Not in Sydney best 22
He would want to come here rather than play NSW reserve league
What do you mean by so?
A contract is a contract. The guy is obliged by law to follow it. If he breaks it he goes in the draft and St.Kilda probably picks him up in the PSD or a team gives up their top draft choice in the ND. Otherwise Sydney have to agree to trade. They can play hard ball as he isn't critical to them and can afford to let him walk.
Swans cannot play hardball with him.
Why would they want him to run around in the twos again if they are wasting 400k odd on him. They need the cap room.
A team will get him for a pick in the 20's IMO. And I would be happy to give that for him.
But they can pay hard ball! They hold the aces. If he walks, then they free salary cap space up so that is a bonus for them. He doesn't go where he wants to which then is against him walking. If he wants to go to a particular club Sydney can ask for overs like a first rounder and hold out for as long as they like. Not sure what the bidding club or Mitchell can do to change Sydney's mind.
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Tom Mitchell is still under contract.
Sydney does not have to deal with anyone.
He first needs to say he wants to leave and then needs to nominate us. Carlton has been at him for months as his dad played with them too.
If by some miracle he does nominate us we have to come up with a trade that Sydney will accept......
So?
Not in Sydney best 22
He would want to come here rather than play NSW reserve league
What do you mean by so?
A contract is a contract. The guy is obliged by law to follow it. If he breaks it he goes in the draft and St.Kilda probably picks him up in the PSD or a team gives up their top draft choice in the ND. Otherwise Sydney have to agree to trade. They can play hard ball as he isn't critical to them and can afford to let him walk.
Swans cannot play hardball with him.
Why would they want him to run around in the twos again if they are wasting 400k odd on him. They need the cap room.
A team will get him for a pick in the 20's IMO. And I would be happy to give that for him.
But they can pay hard ball! They hold the aces. If he walks, then they free salary cap space up so that is a bonus for them. He doesn't go where he wants to which then is against him walking. If he wants to go to a particular club Sydney can ask for overs like a first rounder and hold out for as long as they like. Not sure what the bidding club or Mitchell can do to change Sydney's mind.
It's not a bonus if he walks and they get nothing for him. They don't hold all the cards mate. They will want to get a decent pick for him and will be happy to see the end of his contract.
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Yep agree bt, you'd want to be compensated for a player of Mitchells ilk.
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Tony_M
Thinking about it a bit further, is he worth our first pick? We know what we are getting and that's pretty good. Would definitely help our midfield from day one.
If you had the choose today, would you take him or Lennon?
The tops teams definitely wouldn't mind using their first rounder on him IMO.
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Tony_M
Thinking about it a bit further, is he worth our first pick? We know what we are getting and that's pretty good. Would definitely help our midfield from day one.
If you had the choose today, would you take him or Lennon?
The tops teams definitely wouldn't mind using their first rounder on him IMO.
Id give a first rounder for him no doubt. Has a 2-way game. Very un-richmond like.
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Agree on Giles but wonder what incentive for him given he goes from 3rd choice at Freo to 3rd choice at Richmond?
Rightly or wrongly the club would see him behind Griff and Vickery as back up to Ivvy
Think you are getting Giles mixed up with Griffen from Freo HRT
Giles is at the GWS, was their number 1 ruckman until they got Mumford.
Reckon he could play the role thay had planned for Hampson, you knwo the role the Hampson can't play ;D
But they can pay hard ball! They hold the aces. If he walks, then they free salary cap space up so that is a bonus for them. He doesn't go where he wants to which then is against him walking. If he wants to go to a particular club Sydney can ask for overs like a first rounder and hold out for as long as they like. Not sure what the bidding club or Mitchell can do to change Sydney's mind.
It's not a bonus if he walks and they get nothing for him. They don't hold all the cards mate. They will want to get a decent pick for him and will be happy to see the end of his contract.
Sorry pardon my ignorance, but how can he walk out on Sydney when he is contracted?
Aren't his only options - he gets traded or Sydney de-lists him and they have to pay out his contract? With any payout required to be booked in this years salary cap?
and btw re this:
Tony_M
Thinking about it a bit further, is he worth our first pick? We know what we are getting and that's pretty good. Would definitely help our midfield from day one.
If you had the choose today, would you take him or Lennon?
The tops teams definitely wouldn't mind using their first rounder on him IMO.
I'd take Mitchell over Lennon at this stage simple because Mitchell can play both inside and outside. Lennon right now is an outside player only
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Tony_M
Thinking about it a bit further, is he worth our first pick? We know what we are getting and that's pretty good. Would definitely help our midfield from day one.
If you had the choose today, would you take him or Lennon?
The tops teams definitely wouldn't mind using their first rounder on him IMO.
I'd take him over lennon no problem(not sold on lennon tbh) and yep I would give up our first rounder for him. Think he's a very talented player that's already shown he can play at a high standard.
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Tony_M
Thinking about it a bit further, is he worth our first pick? We know what we are getting and that's pretty good. Would definitely help our midfield from day one.
If you had the choose today, would you take him or Lennon?
The tops teams definitely wouldn't mind using their first rounder on him IMO.
I'd take him over lennon no problem(not sold on lennon tbh) and yep I would give up our first rounder for him. Think he's a very talented player that's already shown he can play at a high standard.
Yer tend to agree on Lennon but I have seen some nice things from him. Recon he is an elite kick and more importantly decision maker. Really hope he comes good because he could be really great to watch. A little Lids like I recon, never going to be hard but will be silky.
Mitchell for our first pick I'd be happy with but keeping our first pick and getting Mitchell as well is where we should be aiming.
How good are Sydney when a bloke like this cannot even get a game. What hope do we have??
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Agree WP, Giles is wasted at GWS. They have been playing Rory Lobb ahead of him when needed and I had a chat with Giles after the Carlton game and you could tell he was not happy going from 1st string to 3rd. Currently GWS have 6 ruckmen on their books Mumford, Patton, Giles, Lobb, Downie and Phillips. Something has got to give and I guess it will be Giles.
I'd snap him up not only for his rucking ability but also plays well forward as he has a good kick and strong contested mark.
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Mumford, Patton, Giles, Lobb, Downie and Phillips.
Wouldnt that be nice, we have one decent ruckman and a cast of failures
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How good are Sydney when a bloke like this cannot even get a game. What hope do we have??
In fairness he was injured a lot during this season otherwise he would've played more senior games.
Still can't get my head around him getting 64 possies in one game. That's insane !
It took me a whole season to get 64 possessions when I played ;D
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I'd snap him up not only for his rucking ability but also plays well forward as he has a good kick and strong contested mark.
Lowden kicked 4 goals for Box Hill in the final last weekend. I'd prefer him to Giles.
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I would be happy for us to put pick 11 on the table for Tom Mitchell.
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Frawley >>> Chaplin
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Frawley >>> Chaplin
Laffey >>>> Frawley >>> Chaplin
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Frawley >>> Chaplin
Lol I don't think so, I'm counting 2014 form not 2010 :shh
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These threads are great, because we all post about what we want, who's coming, who's going...and in the end we do sweet FA... :lol
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According to Barrett tonight:
Freo has put a 7-year $4 million offer to James Frawley. Despite that, Geelong are still the favourite to get Frawley.
Paddy Ryder has officially told Hird and Essendon he wants out.
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CARLTON has confirmed its interest in Sydney Swans midfielder Tom Mitchell and revealed it has spoken to Mitchell's family.
Carlton football operations manager Andrew McKay said forward Jeff Garlett is in "the same boat" as Robinson.
McKay cut off rumours about ruckman Matthew Kreuzer being offered as trade bait.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-19/the-mitchells-understand
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Throw the kitchen sink at getting Luke Parker.
No chance Sydney can afford what hes worth on the open market.
The bloke is a dead set champion.
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Paddy Ryder has played his last game for the Bombers after formally requesting a trade. Ryder’s manager Paul Connors has told Essendon’s chief executive Xavier Campbell that the star ruckman-forward wants to find a new club in next month’s trade period. His decision to leave is based on his family’s concerns over the club’s ongoing supplements scandal. Port Adelaide and Brisbane are the clear frontrunners to secure the ruckman-forward, while Greater Western Sydney is also an option.
There has been talks that Sydney will be able to offer him a contract if Nick Malceski leaves via Free Agency and if Adam Goodes retires. If Tom Mitchell does leave the club via Trade that will free up to $500,000 in the salary cap. The Swans have delisted O'Keefe which already offers room to move in the Salaray Cap.
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season. Membrey (188cm 90kg) was Pick 46 in the 2012 draft and has only played 1 game for the Swans.
Fremantle's Matt de Boer has signed a one-year contract extension to remain at the club in 2015.
West Coast have thrown their hat into the ring, to lure home WA native, and current disgruntled Magpie, Heritier Lumumba.
Jon Ralph on SEN said that Tom Mitchell is determined to leave Sydney for Carlton. The Blues have met with his family.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/paddy-ryder-requests-trade-from-essendon/story-fndv7pj3-1227064543864
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Beams to Brisbane
He has had enough of bucks
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And in further breaking news the RFC are doing sweet FA again...waiting back to pick up a 28-30 year old hack to add to the already list of hacks as they believe they are one more hack away from a GF.. ::) ::) ::)
Coach Damien Hardwick had this to say.....Yeah Look.
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I'm just hoping the club is doing a poo load of stuff behind the scenes and the reason why we are not hearing anything is because we are not leaking info to the press like other clubs are doing.. :pray
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Not even trying to get Mitchell? We are a better destination than Carltank
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I'm just hoping the club is doing a poo load of stuff behind the scenes and the reason why we are not hearing anything is because we are not leaking info to the press like other clubs are doing.. :pray
I have been waiting for this comment and no offence, but this exact statement was made last year by many posters right up to the end of the trade/draft period and nothing happened, nothing!!!!!!
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Not even trying to get Mitchell? We are a better destination than Carltank
we're still looking through the brotherhood bins to find players. moneyball sucks.
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Not even trying to get Mitchell? We are a better destination than Carltank
Sack the board IMO
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Or maybe we are heavily into Dangerfield :shh Bo, can you confirm ? :shh
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I'm just hoping the club is doing a poo load of stuff behind the scenes and the reason why we are not hearing anything is because we are not leaking info to the press like other clubs are doing.. :pray
I have been waiting for this comment and no offence, but this exact statement was made last year by many posters right up to the end of the trade/draft period and nothing happened, nothing!!!!!!
pretty sure the club basically said they were done for the trade period after getting the potato that McCain rejected
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Please Richmond use the draft to get talented youngsters to the club ,but go out and get a superstar who can make a real difference ...no more discarded hacks
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Please Richmond use the draft to get talented youngsters to the club ,but go out and get a superstar who can make a real difference ...no more discarded hacks
You may disappointed as Big Fool's most reliable snout C4[2]Yo`DooR has just said we're into Ahmed Saad.
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Or maybe we are heavily into Dangerfield :shh Bo, can you confirm ? :shh
Danger has more blood on his hands than richard III in the most recent coup, he s a key stake in shaping their future, ain't going anywhere. At this stage, we re likely to pick up Blease as a delisted FA :shh
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Beams to Brisbane
He has had enough of bucks
He is clearly not happy at Collingwood by all reports. I know his brother is up in Brisbane but why don't we have a crack at him (4m over 6 years) and tell him we will get his brother too in time.
Beams is a star and is exactly what we need. He stands up in big game regardless what is going on around him. If he is even just slightly thinking of moving, go after him full tilt! Would give Vickory or Griff and our first pick, would that get it done? They need a tall forward to help Cloke.
Thoughts??
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Brisbane would be very appealing
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I'm just hoping the club is doing a poo load of stuff behind the scenes and the reason why we are not hearing anything is because we are not leaking info to the press like other clubs are doing.. :pray
I have been waiting for this comment and no offence, but this exact statement was made last year by many posters right up to the end of the trade/draft period and nothing happened, nothing!!!!!!
pretty sure the club basically said they were done for the trade period after getting the potato that McCain rejected
Yes mate the club did but many here thought we had one more left in us and it wasn't the case.
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Beams to Brisbane
He has had enough of bucks
He is clearly not happy at Collingwood by all reports. I know his brother is up in Brisbane but why don't we have a crack at him (4m over 6 years) and tell him we will get his brother too in time.
Beams is a star and is exactly what we need. He stands up in big game regardless what is going on around him. If he is even just slightly thinking of moving, go after him full tilt! Would give Vickory or Griff and our first pick, would that get it done? They need a tall forward to help Cloke.
Thoughts??
Yeah I would have Beams in a heartbeat. Agree on your "big games" comment, he is a real game breaker and totally lifts that side and carries them over the line!!!
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
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Or maybe we are heavily into Dangerfield :shh Bo, can you confirm ? :shh
LOL.
We need the "mail"
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
What pick was o'rourke and how old is he?
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
What pick was o'rourke and how old is he?
Pick 2. Twenty years old.
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Please Richmond use the draft to get talented youngsters to the club ,but go out and get a superstar who can make a real difference ...no more discarded hacks
You may disappointed as Big Fool's most reliable snout C4[2]Yo`DooR has just said we're into Ahmed Saad.
nothing surprises me with this great club of ours
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
Happy to chase O'Rourke but would be a shame to loose Donut.
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Or maybe we are heavily into Dangerfield :shh Bo, can you confirm ? :shh
Danger has more blood on his hands than richard III in the most recent coup, he s a key stake in shaping their future, ain't going anywhere. At this stage, we re likely to pick up Blease as a delisted FA :shh
So far you have us linked to every player going around... :shh
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
Happy to chase O'Rourke but would be a shame to loose Donut.
Seriously would you loose 1 second of sleep if we lost Donut? A nothing player IMO. Small, slow, not great skills, just your typical average twos player.
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
Bollocks! O'Rourke played 8 games for GWS this season, 6 of them in a row (Rounds 17-22) in the second half of the season. Makes me wonder how solid your mail is if you can't even get a players stats right. ::)
For those interested in knowing from someone who has actually watched him play, he is still a bit light on but has shown some ability. Still some more development required but he could be a good pickup. Exactly the same build as Lachie Whitfield
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Ch 7 news tonight had vision of GWS heavies including Leon Cameron meeting with Paddy Ryder at his manager's office.
Nathan Buckley told ABC Grandstand this afternoon that he's had a couple of chats with Mitch Clark. He's confident that Clark's in the right head space and would love him at Collingwood next year. It is understood that Clark has committed to Collingwood, with the key forward already utilising the Westpac Centre's facilities.
Nick Malceski, when interviewed today at the Swans recovery session, has given his strongest indiciation yet that he will remain at Sydney in 2015.
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Please Richmond use the draft to get talented youngsters to the club ,but go out and get a superstar who can make a real difference ...no more discarded hacks
You may disappointed as Big Footy's most reliable snout C4[2]Yo`DooR has just said we're into Ahmed Saad.
Here's the link:
"Tigers showing considerable interest in Ahmed Saad."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2014-5-list-spaces-confirmed.1054461/page-283#post-35207566
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Why do we need to be seen chasing everyone.
Have of these so called trades won't happen.
Settle petals. :thumbsup
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Ahmed Sadd ::) poor mans Sam Lloyd
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Maybe, I am more interested in our drafting of young talent.
We don't appear to be getting a big fish in trade or FA so I'm interested in how many picks in National Draft (hoping for 4 or 5) and as long as we have another 2-3 rookies under 21 then the other couple of rookie spots can be speculative.
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Ahmed Sadd ::) poor mans Sam Lloyd
We should give him Justin Charles' old jumper! ;D
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
Happy to chase O'Rourke but would be a shame to loose Donut.
Seriously would you loose 1 second of sleep if we lost Donut? A nothing player IMO. Small, slow, not great skills, just your typical average twos player.
Donut is McDonough right?
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Yep
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Why do we need to be seen chasing everyone.
Have of these so called trades won't happen.
Settle petals. :thumbsup
Um maybe you should look at our list again or at the very least go and watch out last game against Port.. :whistle
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
Happy to chase O'Rourke but would be a shame to loose Donut.
Seriously would you loose 1 second of sleep if we lost Donut? A nothing player IMO. Small, slow, not great skills, just your typical average twos player.
Donut is McDonough right?
Well he is small, slow? - average I would think, not great skills? - he would posses the best kicking skills on the list , average twos player - I think he is an average AFL player that can improve.
My opinion only, I would keep him.
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Barrett said James Frawley is hanging off making a decision until after the Grand Final as he wants to sit down with Hawthorn. Geelong are still the favourites but Hawthorn "are right in it". As Frawley is deciding between Hawthorn, Geelong and Freo, he's clearly weighing up going to a club who will be pushing for a flag next year.
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Why do we need to be seen chasing everyone.
Have of these so called trades won't happen.
Settle petals. :thumbsup
Um maybe you should look at our list again or at the very least go and watch out last game against Port.. :whistle
This is the same Port that took the Hawks to a whisker of crashing out of the GF at the MCG after comfortably accounting for Dockers at Subi.
Port are very good WAT, we need to be smart and strategic to improve our list.
Chasing everyone was what got us into the poo in the Wallace era.
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Why do we need to be seen chasing everyone.
Have of these so called trades won't happen.
Settle petals. :thumbsup
Um maybe you should look at our list again or at the very least go and watch out last game against Port.. :whistle
This is the same Port that took the Hawks to a whisker of crashing out of the GF at the MCG after comfortably accounting for Dockers at Subi.
Port are very good WAT, we need to be smart and strategic to improve our list.
Chasing everyone was what got us into the poo in the Wallace era.
wrong
it was our pathetic showing in the 2004/2005/2006 drafts that sent us back years in the wallace era.
Brown was a good get because he was quality.
We are in dire need of quality players, either through the draft or within our own but that wont happen until we sack those bums we have in office now pretending to be recruiters and developers
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yep, correct for once. 9 picks inside the top 30, only 3 still on the list.
18 picks overall, only 3 on the list still.
just goes to show that using the draft doesn't work.......
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Brown came in under Frawley.
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Get some hawthorn fringe players
Ffs
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Brown came in under Frawley.
Your right
Makes the Wallace tenure look even worse.
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i agree brown was a quality player and the exact type we should be targeting with f/a. but imo for a club with a good recruiting dept which we dont have and havent had for so loooonnngggg, brown was the wrong man at the wrong time.
the rot started not in 04 but in spuds time at the end of 01.
we had just finished 4th on the ladder thanks to essendon laying down in the last home and away game. come the following week in the qualifying finals they spanked us by 70 points easing up.
the following week we fell in against carlton in a semi final and had to front up to brisbane. well brisbane did to us what essendon did, showed us up for the pretenders we were. the game was over at half time and they went thru the motions for the remainder of the game.
it was patently clear to anyone who opened their eyes that the list just was not good enough and there was some pain coming our way. some hard decisions had to be made and we failed to make em.
instead we went the top up route thinking we were close. this all sounds familiar doesnt it. in one of the strongest drafts ever 2001, we traded out of it, we traded daffy and pick 17 for the 28 yr old stafford, we traded our 3rd rounder for paul hudson. not one good player so few kids taken from that draft it was criminal.
so come 02 and the inevitable happens we finish 14th but what do we do??? we top up again. the number of duds on our list was staggering full on rebuild was the only way to go a blind man could see it yet we topped up.
we traded torney, 2, 18, 32 for johnson 12, 28, 41. to exacerbate this we then traded 28 for blumfield, and took mature players fleming, and nichols with nd picks. for 2 yrs solid we hardly participated in the nd.
so 03 comes along and of course a few mature players was never going to resurrect our club and the bleeding obvious happens again we finish 13th. so what do we do???. you guessed it we top up again with mature players. again trading away good picks. at least in brown who we paid 6 and 20 for we got a talented player. but we continue to target mature players with nd picks taking morrison, tuck and fletcher.
well 04 came and we get a spoon the club finally realise we have to invest in youth and rebuild but unfortunately for us we had fools in charge wallace wanted to give the mature players a chance at finals he clearly over estimated where the list was at. and wallace first two seasons coincided with two of the weakest drafts ever imo and boy how we stuffed those drafts up.
so yeah we need quality players as many as we can get but we need to balance out what we dowe need to target quality mature players and at the same time find ways to stay heavily involved in the early stages of drafts. imo f/a makes it much easy for us do this now.
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Why do we need to be seen chasing everyone.
Have of these so called trades won't happen.
Settle petals. :thumbsup
Um maybe you should look at our list again or at the very least go and watch out last game against Port.. :whistle
Don't be so condescending.
My point is you don't go chasing every player, quality over quantity.
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Get Lin JONG
Ffs
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i agree brown was a quality player and the exact type we should be targeting with f/a. but imo for a club with a good recruiting dept which we dont have and havent had for so loooonnngggg, brown was the wrong man at the wrong time.
the rot started not in 04 but in spuds time at the end of 01.
we had just finished 4th on the ladder thanks to essendon laying down in the last home and away game. come the following week in the qualifying finals they spanked us by 70 points easing up.
the following week we fell in against carlton in a semi final and had to front up to brisbane. well brisbane did to us what essendon did, showed us up for the pretenders we were. the game was over at half time and they went thru the motions for the remainder of the game.
it was patently clear to anyone who opened their eyes that the list just was not good enough and there was some pain coming our way. some hard decisions had to be made and we failed to make em.
instead we went the top up route thinking we were close. this all sounds familiar doesnt it. in one of the strongest drafts ever 2001, we traded out of it, we traded daffy and pick 17 for the 28 yr old stafford, we traded our 3rd rounder for paul hudson. not one good player so few kids taken from that draft it was criminal.
so come 02 and the inevitable happens we finish 14th but what do we do??? we top up again. the number of duds on our list was staggering full on rebuild was the only way to go a blind man could see it yet we topped up.
we traded torney, 2, 18, 32 for johnson 12, 28, 41. to exacerbate this we then traded 28 for blumfield, and took mature players fleming, and nichols with nd picks. for 2 yrs solid we hardly participated in the nd.
so 03 comes along and of course a few mature players was never going to resurrect our club and the bleeding obvious happens again we finish 13th. so what do we do???. you guessed it we top up again with mature players. again trading away good picks. at least in brown who we paid 6 and 20 for we got a talented player. but we continue to target mature players with nd picks taking morrison, tuck and fletcher.
well 04 came and we get a spoon the club finally realise we have to invest in youth and rebuild but unfortunately for us we had fools in charge wallace wanted to give the mature players a chance at finals he clearly over estimated where the list was at. and wallace first two seasons coincided with two of the weakest drafts ever imo and boy how we stuffed those drafts up.
so yeah we need quality players as many as we can get but we need to balance out what we dowe need to target quality mature players and at the same time find ways to stay heavily involved in the early stages of drafts. imo f/a makes it much easy for us do this now.
The reason I want us to go as hard as we can at FA is you know what you are going to get. You pay overs as WP keeps saying but on the positive side you get them for free in terms of trades or draft picks. Plus I just don't trust FJ to be able to recruit good young talent.
We have the nucleus of a good side but we also fall away real quick IMO.
We need Frawley. He hasn't made up his mind yet of where he is going. Through our hat in the ring please!!
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Frawley is a massive upgrade on Chaplin
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No he s not, had a ratshit year, contributed nothing. To Melb at any point In fact hasn't played well since 2010 :shh
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No he s not, had a ratpoo year, contributed nothing. To Melb at any point In fact hasn't played well since 2010 :shh
Wrong
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Doesn't want to be there
Kicked some goals didnt he?
I think you will find he's toweled up Riewoldt a few times since '10
Chaplin is rubbish and frawley would provide far greater company for rance Astbury grimes
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Frawley's best is behind him. Massively overrated. FA or not, would rather go for Jakcsch or try and shake Carlisle from Essendon's rotting tree.
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yep
said it elsewhere id love carlisle. They wont do it but hope they bawse it up and offer him 700 large plus a year.
stuff we need someone like him who can work both ways.
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yep
said it elsewhere id love carlisle. They wont do it but hope they bawse it up and offer him 700 large plus a year.
stuff we need someone like him who can work both ways.
Surely you're not suggesting we recruit a swing man? :o outrageous.
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Doesn't want to be there
Kicked some goals didnt he?
I think you will find he's toweled up Riewoldt a few times since '10
Chaplin is rubbish and frawley would provide far greater company for rance Astbury grimes
What a lot of rot , Chaplin was a key part of our defense in back half of year , 25 possies in last R v syd ,,,,,that's a months work for frawley. With astbury to come into the side Chaplin can play a more attacking role ...frawley not required at all
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yep
said it elsewhere id love carlisle. They wont do it but hope they bawse it up and offer him 700 large plus a year.
stuff we need someone like him who can work both ways.
Surely you're not suggesting we recruit a swing man? :o outrageous.
a swingman who can play both roles. Yes
Our swingman are more like robbing peter to pay paul, in fact it can be argued we dont have any full stop.
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yep
said it elsewhere id love carlisle. They wont do it but hope they bawse it up and offer him 700 large plus a year.
stuff we need someone like him who can work both ways.
Surely you're not suggesting we recruit a swing man? :o outrageous.
a swingman who can play both roles. Yes
Our swingman are more like robbing peter to pay paul, in fact it can be argued we dont have any full stop.
I was being sarcastic. I'm in the we don't actually have one camp. ;D
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but no one wants our players to be versatile.
they must be played where they did as a junior.
was carlile a pure swingman as a junior or is it just another case of playing someone out of their natural position?
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Our players need to be played where they are most damaging, that has been evident when certain players have been left in the position that suits them and the team structure.
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but no one wants our players to be versatile.
they must be played where they did as a junior.
was carlile a pure swingman as a junior or is it just another case of playing someone out of their natural position?
:lol
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Our players need to be played where they are most damaging, that has been evident when certain players have been left in the position that suits them and the team structure.
spot on wat.
nothing wrong with trying players in different possies to find where they play best, but playing them in positions where they continually struggle when they have a better natural possie to play in is literally crazy.
we dont have any players who are genuine utilites so why play em where they are most vulnerable.we have had so mny who were as juniors good in a position but for some reason we steadfastly refuse to play em there and they end up failing to develop in either position.
i never get their thinking, they want a mid and draft flankers in the hope of turning them into mids, they draft tall defenders and try to turn em into fwds, they draft tall fwds, wait a minute do they draft tall fwds nope they draft potential ruckmen and play em fwd. what fwds they do draft they play em back.as far as i can see the only tall fwd we have whos played there permanently right thru is riewoldt and we get 50 60 goals a yr from him.
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Our players need to be played where they are most damaging, that has been evident when certain players have been left in the position that suits them and the team structure.
spot on wat.
nothing wrong with trying players in different possies to find where they play best, but playing them in positions where they continually struggle when they have a better natural possie to play in is literally crazy.
we dont have any players who are genuine utilites so why play em where they are most vulnerable.we have had so mny who were as juniors good in a position but for some reason we steadfastly refuse to play em there and they end up failing to develop in either position.
i never get their thinking, they want a mid and draft flankers in the hope of turning them into mids, they draft tall defenders and try to turn em into fwds, they draft tall fwds, wait a minute do they draft tall fwds nope they draft potential ruckmen and play em fwd. what fwds they do draft they play em back.as far as i can see the only tall fwd we have whos played there permanently right thru is riewoldt and we get 50 60 goals a yr from him.
:bow :clapping
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IMO
Chaplin is clearly the weakest point in the side
The opposition target him cause they know his poo. Along with his mate grigg.
Frawley is far better.actually stops blokes too.
Unlike the worst l0ose back going around
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Just happy to sit back the tigers and let it pan out
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IMO
Chaplin is clearly the weakest point in the side
The opposition target him cause they know his poo. Along with his mate grigg.
i reckon they also target Houlis area as well
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Our players need to be played where they are most damaging, that has been evident when certain players have been left in the position that suits them and the team structure.
spot on wat.
nothing wrong with trying players in different possies to find where they play best, but playing them in positions where they continually struggle when they have a better natural possie to play in is literally crazy.
we dont have any players who are genuine utilites so why play em where they are most vulnerable.we have had so mny who were as juniors good in a position but for some reason we steadfastly refuse to play em there and they end up failing to develop in either position.
i never get their thinking, they want a mid and draft flankers in the hope of turning them into mids, they draft tall defenders and try to turn em into fwds, they draft tall fwds, wait a minute do they draft tall fwds nope they draft potential ruckmen and play em fwd. what fwds they do draft they play em back.as far as i can see the only tall fwd we have whos played there permanently right thru is riewoldt and we get 50 60 goals a yr from him.
:clapping
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Please Richmond use the draft to get talented youngsters to the club ,but go out and get a superstar who can make a real difference ...no more discarded hacks
You may disappointed as Big Fool's most reliable snout C4[2]Yo`DooR has just said we're into Ahmed Saad.
Would do
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rfc are also known to be circling Jon o rourke :shh
For lids and a swap of 1st round draft picks Bo?
no you idiot :lol..o rourke has played the season out in neafl ...r2 pick likely , our first offer was r3...we re likely to have a spare r2 with a queue forming for donut :shh
Happy to chase O'Rourke but would be a shame to loose Donut.
Seriously would you loose 1 second of sleep if we lost Donut? A nothing player IMO. Small, slow, not great skills, just your typical average twos player.
I wouldn't lose sleep, but I wouldn't like losing one of our younger players who IMO could be a decent player. Since we took only 1 junior last year it's really the McDraftee's of the year before we can look forward to hopefully developing into players
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I am tipping this to be the quietest trade period ever for the Tigers.
Don't think we will be involved at all and won't target a free agent either.
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I am tipping this to be the quietest trade period ever for the Tigers.
Don't think we will be involved at all and won't target a free agent either.
Why would we ? It's the same heirarchy we've had for the past 5 years that've sat on their hands at trade time. Being content with giving up high picks for opposition reserves players.
Meanwhile sides like North overtake us by getting proven star quality in Dal Santo and Hawthorn line up for another premiership tilt because of their targetting of stars like Gibson , Burgoyne , Lake , Gunston etc.
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I am tipping this to be the quietest trade period ever for the Tigers.
Don't think we will be involved at all and won't target a free agent either.
don't bet on it :shh
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1 trade and 1 f/a plus 4 nd picks would mean two more delistings. which two.
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I am tipping this to be the quietest trade period ever for the Tigers.
Don't think we will be involved at all and won't target a free agent either.
don't bet on it :shh
Any mail Bojo?
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I'll be consulLting my network in coming days , nothing concrete .........yet :shh
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Looking forward to the verdict big man. :shh
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I am tipping this to be the quietest trade period ever for the Tigers.
Don't think we will be involved at all and won't target a free agent either.
don't bet on it :shh
Everyone bet on it, quick
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Our players need to be played where they are most damaging, that has been evident when certain players have been left in the position that suits them and the team structure.
spot on wat.
nothing wrong with trying players in different possies to find where they play best, but playing them in positions where they continually struggle when they have a better natural possie to play in is literally crazy.
we dont have any players who are genuine utilites so why play em where they are most vulnerable.we have had so mny who were as juniors good in a position but for some reason we steadfastly refuse to play em there and they end up failing to develop in either position.
i never get their thinking, they want a mid and draft flankers in the hope of turning them into mids, they draft tall defenders and try to turn em into fwds, they draft tall fwds, wait a minute do they draft tall fwds nope they draft potential ruckmen and play em fwd. what fwds they do draft they play em back.as far as i can see the only tall fwd we have whos played there permanently right thru is riewoldt and we get 50 60 goals a yr from him.
ive put this question to you before, but never got an answer, so ill try again.
you are making the selections draft night. the coach/football dept has said we need a chb.
your pick comes around and there are 4-5 kids who have been playing CHF that you rate as better players than best who has been playing CHB.
who do you pick?
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Good forwards > good backs
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Our players need to be played where they are most damaging, that has been evident when certain players have been left in the position that suits them and the team structure.
spot on wat.
nothing wrong with trying players in different possies to find where they play best, but playing them in positions where they continually struggle when they have a better natural possie to play in is literally crazy.
we dont have any players who are genuine utilites so why play em where they are most vulnerable.we have had so mny who were as juniors good in a position but for some reason we steadfastly refuse to play em there and they end up failing to develop in either position.
i never get their thinking, they want a mid and draft flankers in the hope of turning them into mids, they draft tall defenders and try to turn em into fwds, they draft tall fwds, wait a minute do they draft tall fwds nope they draft potential ruckmen and play em fwd. what fwds they do draft they play em back.as far as i can see the only tall fwd we have whos played there permanently right thru is riewoldt and we get 50 60 goals a yr from him.
ive put this question to you before, but never got an answer, so ill try again.
you are making the selections draft night. the coach/football dept has said we need a chb.
your pick comes around and there are 4-5 kids who have been playing CHF that you rate as better players than best who has been playing CHB.
who do you pick?
Can one of those CHF's be a swingman and play CHB as well?
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IMO you should always draft the best player possible with your first pick, then use second and third picks to get players for certain positions.
If you pick up a gun mid with your first pick you could always trade him later.
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IMO you should always draft the best player possible with your first pick, then use second and third picks to get players for certain positions.
If you pick up a gun mid with your first pick you could always trade him later.
:clapping
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when is trade week
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when is trade week
Friday October 3 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins
Friday October 3, by 2pm - NAB AFL father/son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL
Monday October 6, 10am - Father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; NAB AFL Trade Period begins
Monday October 13, at 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free Agency offer and unrestricted free agency period
Thursday October 16 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends
Friday October 17, at 2pm - NAB AFL Trade Period closes
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-17/key-trade-draft-and-free-agency-dates
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PS Don't you know how to use Google? :lol
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when is trade week
you forgot the "link please" with rolleyes ;D
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PS Don't you know how to use Google? :lol
google is devils technology ;D
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"Just heard a Rumor that the swans are worried about their ruck stocks and are inquiring about Hampson from Richmond ?"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-trade-free-agency-rumours-2014.1075505/page-19#post-35252656
We can only hope so :laugh: :pray.
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"Just heard a Rumor that the swans are worried about their ruck stocks and are inquiring about Hampson from Richmond ?"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-trade-free-agency-rumours-2014.1075505/page-19#post-35252656
We can only hope so :laugh: :pray.
I can't see us getting anything better then a third round pick for him if that.
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"Just heard a Rumor that the swans are worried about their ruck stocks and are inquiring about Hampson from Richmond ?"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-trade-free-agency-rumours-2014.1075505/page-19#post-35252656
We can only hope so :laugh: :pray.
isnt he contracted for 2 more? How would that work ?
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:pray :pray
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"Just heard a Rumor that the swans are worried about their ruck stocks and are inquiring about Hampson from Richmond ?"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-trade-free-agency-rumours-2014.1075505/page-19#post-35252656
We can only hope so :laugh: :pray.
I can't see us getting anything better then a third round pick for him if that.
:o
I'd take last pick in the rookie draft if it meant he was gone.
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:o
I'd take last pick in the rookie draft if it meant he was gone.
I'd give them Hampson and our third round pick just to get rid of him ;D
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I'd be happy for us to maintain the status quo and go into next year one short.
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:lol
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That's OK, Sydney will take him, mold him and he will star and make us look stupid, like we have done in the past.. ::)
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That's OK, Sydney will take him, mold him and he will star and make us look stupid, like we have done in the past.. ::)
So you're saying Derickx is now a star? :gobdrop
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That's OK, Sydney will take him, mold him and he will star and make us look stupid, like we have done in the past.. ::)
So you're saying Derickx is now a star? :gobdrop
No , where did i say that????
I said like we have done in the past....I meant with other players at other clubs..e.g. White and Sarg
FFS, really, have a look at the Swans track record with changing players, its better than our development record!!!!!
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The Swans may have enough clout with the AFL to get some hook patches placed on their match day ball so that their club surgeon can implant Velcro onto Hampsons fingers, its about the only way he will ever hold a mark.
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Not a rumour but would you trade Vickery for Tom Mitchell??
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Not a rumour but would you trade Vickery for Tom Mitchell??
In a heartbeat....where do we sign?
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"Just heard a Rumor that the swans are worried about their ruck stocks and are inquiring about Hampson from Richmond ?"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-trade-free-agency-rumours-2014.1075505/page-19#post-35252656
We can only hope so :laugh: :pray.
Think it was a prank call.
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Not a rumour but would you trade Vickery for Tom Mitchell??
In a heartbeat....where do we sign?
x 2 - I will have a flog if we do that trade
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That's OK, Sydney will take him, mold him and he will star and make us look stupid, like we have done in the past.. ::)
So you're saying Derickx is now a star? :gobdrop
No , where did i say that????
I said like we have done in the past....I meant with other players at other clubs..e.g. White and Sarg
FFS, really, have a look at the Swans track record with changing players, its better than our development record!!!!!
White hasn't done nothing, the only change now is that we only see his highlight reels and not the other 100 minutes of poo
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I think I just found religion. :pray
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That's OK, Sydney will take him, mold him and he will star and make us look stupid, like we have done in the past.. ::)
So you're saying Derickx is now a star? :gobdrop
No , where did i say that????
I said like we have done in the past....I meant with other players at other clubs..e.g. White and Sarg
FFS, really, have a look at the Swans track record with changing players, its better than our development record!!!!!
White hasn't done nothing, the only change now is that we only see his highlight reels and not the other 100 minutes of poo
tend to agree. not a lot has changed from when he was with us. i suppose the main difference is hes manged to hit the scoreboard on a more consistent basis.
still makes too many poor decisions. kicking does let him down at times still doesnt find a lot of ball doesnt lay a lot of tackles, doesnt get a lot of clearances or win a lot of contested ball. nothings changed really. they all look good in highlight reels. me id still rate him an ordinary player.
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Not a rumour but would you trade Vickery for Tom Mitchell??
In a heartbeat....where do we sign?
x 2 - I will have a flog if we do that trade
I'll help.
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Not a rumour but would you trade Vickery for Tom Mitchell??
In a heartbeat....where do we sign?
x 2 - I will have a flog if we do that trade
Waxing the dolphin in anticipation . Flipper is happy
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Yeah White is hopeless, just got goal of the year against us... :whistle
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Yeah White is hopeless, just got goal of the year against us... :whistle
Cameo Kid
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Not a rumour but would you trade Vickery for Tom Mitchell??
id trade tyrone for a packet of crispy cremes better still a pkt of marshmellows that would make it type for type.. of course you would do that deal.
i have to ask thouigh, why would sydney want vickery?????.
they have a shedload of proper fwds buddy, tippett, reid, goodes, sheesh even lrt is a better fwd that hackery.they have a very good proper ruckman in pyke, a good ruck/fwd in tippett thats vickerys role by the way. even derickx is a better pure ruckman but they have in their system a few kids anyway nankervis naissmith.
vickery and griffiths have just been resigned they are going nowhere unfortunately.
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Yeah White is hopeless, just got goal of the year against us... :whistle
Cameo Kid
Better cameos than he ever did for us!!
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Yeah White is hopeless, just got goal of the year against us... :whistle
Cameo Kid
Better cameos than he ever did for us!!
No not really he kicked some extremely good goals for us well and then dished up a lot of poo in between
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Someone claiming Matt White is a star now.
Like the kid but he hasn't done anything he didn't do with us, maybe he managed more games
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Someone claiming Matt White is a star now.
Like the kid but he hasn't done anything he didn't do with us, maybe he managed more games
Im not being condescending mate but do you really believe that.
stuff the goal of the year but i truly believe he is breaking the lines more, and is kicking more goals than he never did with us.
Hinkley seems to have given him more freedom to run and be damaging where as our brilliant coach probably played him out of position or other guns like newman ahead of him.
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Yeah White is hopeless, just got goal of the year against us... :whistle
Because that matters.
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the Whitey thing has been done to death. Needed to become more consistent to be a worthwhile player for us, but he was was showing signs last year. He has now found that greater consistency and while he's no star, he has become a useful player for Port. We could've use his pace and goal nous in our forward half this year for sure.
Its old news now though. We didnt lose a superstar. We're actually pretty good at retaining our good players. We just dont produce enough of them.
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Collingwood has moved closer to securing Melbourne big man Mitch Clark in what could be a straight swap for Heritier Lumumba.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-clark-likely-to-become-a-magpie-via-trade-for-harry-lumumba/story-fnelctok-1227068229946
Another rumour though has Collingwood inquiring about North Melbourne's Aaron Mullett, whilst the Roos have organised to meet with Heritier Lumumba.
Paddy Ryder is in Adelaide talking to Port according to Caro. Ryder has told them he doesn't want to leave without Essendon getting something in return. Apparently, one of the names Essendon has asked for in return is Wines. Still deluded as ever at Windy Hill :rollin.
Several clubs have inquired about Geelong's George Burbury since the Cats made it public that he was up for trade should the right deal eventuate. Those clubs are believed to be the Bulldogs, Blues, Power, and Bombers.
Geelong is believed to have asked about Port Adelaide midfielder Ben Newton, who has played just four games after being taken as a second-round pick (No.35) in the 2010 draft.
Carlton are looking to trade pick six in order to receive in return a package deal of sorts from GWS for a number of their youngsters who want to return to Victoria. Kristian Jaksch leads the names of those available or "gettable". The Bulldogs, Essendon and St Kilda are the other clubs battling it out for Jaksch services.
The Blues are also signalling significant interest in key defender, Sam Frost who is the brother of Collingwood's full back, Jack.
Carlton, St Kilda and Hawthorn have joined Collingwood in the race to secure the signature of GWS midfielder, Jonathan O'Rourke.
Carlton, North Melbourne and Port Adelaide have expressed interest in Western Bulldogs key forward, Liam Jones according to The Age.
Gold Coast are interested in securing Brisbane's Daniel Merrett in the upcoming trade period.
Sydney's Tom Mitchell is set to turn his back on Carlton and other suitors and stick with the Swans according to The Herald Sun's Jay Clark.
Geelong have been linked to the Western Bulldogs Will Minson and Hawthorn's Luke Lowden according to Jay Clark and SEN.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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All this talent up for grabs.
Meanwhile at RFC... <tumbleweed>
FMD. They must be stoked with our current list or just playing cards very close and quiet... I'm putting $1 on the former...
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Harry O for Mitch Clarke would be the biggest joke in trade history. Anything possible though now that Pridus won a brownlow
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A bit of worry we haven't been linked to anyone.Maybe they don't want to play with fire again cause big Hammer screwed them :banghead.I believe our footy department hasn't got the balls to make hard calls and decisions on players putting them on the trade table and chaseing them through free agency to.Instead we go and recruit second rate players from other clubs.
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I believe the pressure place on our list by this forum has made them gun shy :santa
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The pies end up with Mitch Clark for Labamba ...how do these pricks keep thieving? What is the bet Mitch ain't sad no more next year.
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Tom Mitchell would've been a good get, but it appears he'll simply wait for Goodes to retire along with one or 2 others and hope for a place in a side that's set themselves up to play finals for the next few years. Cant blame him.
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what's with carlscum being rumoured to be interested with almost every single player on the move....
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Carlton just wishful. Can't trade what you don't have.
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Only worthwhile trade for us is shiel. Unless we could get o rourke for a 40+ pick which is his real market value on last 2 years performance then no way. With the interest it will be r2 . Just leave it to the guru FJ, he seriously knows his staff , sleep easy :shh
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My White issue is this, I don't believe we should of git rid of him as he played and important part in the team at the times we needed him and we were lost without him during most of the season, cameo roles or not. Most on this forum said the same thing at the time.
We did the same with Scultz and we have done the same with many players in the past, that's what I am saying. What have we picked up in return....not a lot, have they been better....no, not IMO.
Lets hope during this trade/free agency period we don't do the same. I would hate to see Ty or even Hampson traded and end up making us look like clowns!!! Ty more so.
Em tas ol
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At least we replaced him with bannfield
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The pies end up with Mitch Clark for Labamba ...how do these pricks keep thieving? What is the bet Mitch ain't sad no more next year.
Melbourne always helps them out
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Only worthwhile trade for us is shiel. Unless we could get o rourke for a 40+ pick which is his real market value on last 2 years performance then no way. With the interest it will be r2 . Just leave it to the guru FJ, he seriously knows his staff , sleep easy :shh
Are you saying that FJ is involved in our trading now? That your mail?
If you are then with all respect you are wrong, so very very wrong. His brief is DRAFTING not trading
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Only worthwhile trade for us is shiel. Unless we could get o rourke for a 40+ pick which is his real market value on last 2 years performance then no way. With the interest it will be r2 . Just leave it to the guru FJ, he seriously knows his staff , sleep easy :shh
Are you saying that FJ is involved in our trading now? That your mail?
If you are then with all respect you are wrong, so very very wrong. His brief is DRAFTING not trading
I think he meant don't trade and leave it to FJ.
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Only worthwhile trade for us is shiel. Unless we could get o rourke for a 40+ pick which is his real market value on last 2 years performance then no way. With the interest it will be r2 . Just leave it to the guru FJ, he seriously knows his staff , sleep easy :shh
Are you saying that FJ is involved in our trading now? That your mail?
If you are then with all respect you are wrong, so very very wrong. His brief is DRAFTING not trading
I think he meant don't trade and leave it to FJ.
Hope so ;D
But with the mailman one never knows TBH
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Essendon's Patrick Ryder is likely to be traded to Port Adelaide after the Power have committed to trading away their Pick.16.
Brisbane have refused to trade their Pick 4 leaving them with Pick 22 as the next available selection.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/paddy-ryder-to-meet-ken-hinkley-as-afl-trade-intrigue-begins-20140923-10l124.html
Shaun Higgins tells teammates he is likely to leave Western Bulldogs.
As he is a restricted free agent, the Bulldogs can match any offer, but they have only been prepared to offer Higgins a two-year deal. The Bulldogs are aware Higgins wants a longer contract, and maintain discussions are ongoing with the player.
t's understood Higgins and his management will next week ramp up discussions with North Melbourne, which could be willing to offer a longer deal.
It emerged on Wednesday Carlton was no longer interested in Higgins, having made initial inquiries to his management about three weeks ago.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/shaun-higgins-tells-teammates-he-is-likely-to-leave-western-bulldogs-20140924-10le23.html
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Only worthwhile trade for us is shiel. Unless we could get o rourke for a 40+ pick which is his real market value on last 2 years performance then no way. With the interest it will be r2 . Just leave it to the guru FJ, he seriously knows his staff , sleep easy :shh
Are you saying that FJ is involved in our trading now? That your mail?
If you are then with all respect you are wrong, so very very wrong. His brief is DRAFTING not trading
I think he meant don't trade and leave it to FJ.
That's exactly what I meant tigs :shh
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
:lol Waiting for next year when in hindsight someone says how crap we are for not chasing him harder. :lol
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
wxpect Collin poo to bend Brissy over at the trade table then
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
I assume it's because he wants to go back home to Queensland....... :shh
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
I assume it's because he wants to go back home to Queensland....... :shh
Yep, Beams wants to return to his home state for family reasons.
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-09-24/statement-dayne-beams
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
I assume it's because he wants to go back home to Queensland....... :shh
Yep, Beams wants to return to his home state for family reasons.
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-09-24/statement-dayne-beams
Maybe if we relocated we would be in the running
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
I assume it's because he wants to go back home to Queensland....... :shh
Yep, Beams wants to return to his home state for family reasons.
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-09-24/statement-dayne-beams
Maybe if we relocated we would be in the running
Exactly Chucky, exactly!
OER doesn't get it (I get that)
Y&BB doesn't get it ( which I also get)
But YOU get it Chucky so why can't the tigers WHY.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
I assume it's because he wants to go back home to Queensland....... :shh
Yep, Beams wants to return to his home state for family reasons.
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-09-24/statement-dayne-beams
Maybe if we relocated we would be in the running
Exactly Chucky, exactly!
OER doesn't get it (I get that)
Y&BB doesn't get it ( which I also get)
But YOU get it Chucky so why can't the tigers WHY.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Dunno it's certainly mind boggling
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We will enrol Chucky and yellowandback as OERs representatives to Mensa. :bow :bow :bow
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We will enrol Chucky and yellowandback as OERs representatives to Mensa. :bow :bow :bow
You already have a representative.
:)
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We will enrol Chucky and yellowandback as OERs representatives to Mensa. :bow :bow :bow
You already have a representative.
:)
Sorry 1965, I forgot about you!
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
wxpect Collin poo to bend Brissy over at the trade table then
Unfortunately he is contracted so you're probably right.
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
Umm coz last time I checked , richmond wasn't in qld :ROTFL
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He is on the glue again
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Paul Roos says Melbourne could trade for Adelaide Crows star Patrick Dangerfield.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/paul-roos-says-melbourne-could-trade-for-adelaide-crows-star-patrick-dangerfield/story-fndv862c-1227069523689
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Beams has asked to be traded to Queensland. Go Pies. ;D
Why aren't we actively involved in getting him across to the Tigers :banghead :banghead :banghead
Umm coz last time I checked , richmond wasn't in qld :ROTFL
Ahhh yep, der Freddy but whoa Bojo, isn't Beams worth relocating for ::)
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Paul Roos says Melbourne could trade for Adelaide Crows star Patrick Dangerfield.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/paul-roos-says-melbourne-could-trade-for-adelaide-crows-star-patrick-dangerfield/story-fndv862c-1227069523689
haha yeah right, like he would go to melbourne
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Is the Richmond FC still operating? Nothing seems to be happening. Have we gone into liquidation or something
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Is the Richmond FC still operating? Nothing seems to be happening. Have we gone into liquidation or something
Paralysed into inaction over Hamspudgate
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Hardwick at a movie in Brighton
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It would be a miracle if we got Dangerfield but I believe in miracles :pray
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Surely hed want to come here over Melbourne
Ffs
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Strange how its either "Stop the spin" or "this place leaks likea shive". Now its quiet its "why are we doing nothing".
Personally as much as I would like to be in the know I think as far as trades and draft goes its best to be quiet.
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Whenever we get announced as going after someone then immediately we get trumped by another club anyway, prefer to have it kept quiet and make certain of it.
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Actually pleased that we aren't being linked to every player.
Pleased that we are hearing nothing. It is actually the way it should be, the way a lot of the good clubs go about things
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Dayne Beams has received a 5-year, $4 million offer from Brisbane. Pies are still trying to hold onto him though.
North Melbourne have reportedly offered a 3-year, $1.2 million offer to Shaun Higgins.
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Hardwick at a movie in Brighton
Watching every Star Wars movie in sequence.
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Like hawks did with lake, and cats along with freo are doing with Frawley. :thumbsup
Who cares what's leaked about our selection objectives. Conca wasn't and how is that left field selection turning out for us.
Good clubs choose the right players that's what they do, not other clubs rejects. Also good clubs don't make deals with players in the first 5 mins as we did last year with our good friend graham which some on here were applauding
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Rumours coming out of Melbourne are that Mitch Clark has now officially told the club of his wishes to be traded to Collingwood.
However, the AFL website understands Clark met with the Cats yesterday.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-25/clark-meets-with-the-cats
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Why are they getting Mitch Clark when they already gave Cloke and White ? and why haven't we enquirer about Clark. gee what a dog of a bloke he is, wanted out of Brisbane to go home to Perth, but chose melbourne because of $$$ and now wants to go to Collingwood
stuffen joke
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Freo have put Zac Clark on the table.
Get it done tigers!
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Freo have put Zac Clark on the table.
Get it done tigers!
hes sshit
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we have hammer - do not need
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Freo have put Zac Clark on the table.
Get it done tigers!
He's a jet would trade for him in a heartbeat. Conca perhaps?
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Freo have put Zac Clark on the table.
Get it done tigers!
So what? We put Chris Knights on the table too - the operating table!
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Would take Zac Clark for sure. Very solid ruckman and athletic.
Beams $800k/year, gee think that's a bit much. Thought he'd be more worth $600k/year, especially since he actually wants to go home to QLD anyway not like you need to inflate the payments to convince him...
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People people, just stop, honestly. We are not going to get anyone of any value, we don't have the balls, we think we are there, we have no idea, lets celebrate the other clubs getting involved because the RFC will get NO ONE!!!!
We as supports would like many of these players but the RFC.....WAP!!!!
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Robbo says Brisbane has put its number 4 pick on the table for Dayne Beams.
Swans CEO Andrew Ireland seems to have ruled out big trades on 3aw tonight: "We'll be looking after the players on our list rather than going out into the marketplace."
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Word is we are close to getting a big name
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Word is we are close to getting a big name
Dean Cox?
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Word is we are close to getting a big name
Only big name is Dangerfield. I call bullpoop and requedt a source and proof of that source
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No balls we have to make hard calls on players and if we get involved we chase average players at best.Put Conca and Vickery on the trade table.
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Reckon Conca goes
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would gladly offer conca and some for one of shuey or selwood in return. would still like a crack at sinclair and schofield was on the outer a bit this yr.
would go hard at ryder enabling us to trade out both vickery and griffiths if need be. those two would have to really work for their place then.
mcdonough for late 2nd early 3rd rounder. wants to go home ?????
would cut hampson as a lost cause and get giles. this scenario does hurt our ability to pay for a f/a so maybe its stretching it a bit.
would take frawley as a f/a.
would see what carlton want for garlett. if too much we dont take him.
we dont have a lot to play with but both frawley and ryder would not cost us anything other than their wages.
we could do numerous things but the club like a lot of supporters are too scared of getting things wrong. its all what if so and so does this or ends up okay.
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Well we are quiet!
What happen to our big bucks we had to spend Richardson? Surely we have to have something in the pipeline, there is no way we can be this quiet......
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why did we not wait to resign vickrery and griffiths. as usual an alternative option come to bear at the end of the season an option we could have been all over if we hadnt resigned two undeperformers. this happens all the time at the club.
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Freo have put Zac Clark on the table.
Get it done tigers!
He's a jet would trade for him in a heartbeat. Conca perhaps?
Jet s a bit strong, yep would consider for conca
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Well we are quiet!
What happen to our big bucks we had to spend Richardson? Surely we have to have something in the pipeline, there is no way we can be this quiet......
Don't forget we have 3 blokes coming it of contract next year that are going to take up a roar bit of coin in Cotchin, Martin & Rance. Would hope that's what the $$ are going to be used on
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BREAKING: There are rumours that Essendon are demanding Chad Wingard in return for Paddy Ryder!
https://twitter.com/Afltrade
EFC deluded as ever :rollin
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COLLINGWOOD will demand a player of the calibre of Adelaide’s Patrick Dangerfield if they lose Dayne Beams to Brisbane.
A three-way deal raised by one party would see Dangerfield head to the Pies, Brisbane’s pick No.4 as well as more picks or players go to Adelaide, and Beams find his way to the Gabba.
The Pies last night scoffed at suggestions pick No.4 or ruckman Matthew Leuenberger would be sufficient. Instead they believe receiving a player of the star power of Dangerfield is the only way to clinch the deal.
Three Melbourne clubs have made inquiries about Dangerfield since Adelaide powerbroker Mark Ricciuto’s claimed last week he might be tradeable.
Brisbane has all but given up on securing Patrick Ryder — who they expect to go to Port Adelaide — and will throw all resources at Beams.
Brisbane’s Pearce Hanley has also been mentioned as a part of the Beams trade.
Beams has told Collingwood he will only go to Brisbane to play with his brother Claye, but Gold Coast recruiter Scott Clayton said yesterday the Suns were also keen.
Collingwood believes the Suns’ star-studded young midfield — including Jaeger O’Meara, David Swallow and Dion Prestia — has much more appeal from a trade perspective.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/collingwood-hope-to-replace-dayne-beams-with-patrick-dangerfield-in-a-blockbuster-trade/story-e6frf3e3-1227070763346
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Well we are quiet!
What happen to our big bucks we had to spend Richardson? Surely we have to have something in the pipeline, there is no way we can be this quiet......
Don't forget we have 3 blokes coming it of contract next year that are going to take up a roar bit of coin in Cotchin, Martin & Rance. Would hope that's what the $$ are going to be used on
thatvactually should make it easier to get deals done. You could front load one, middle load another and backload the third players contact and pay them all well!!
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8 years for Dangerfield, our first pick and Hampson and maybe Conca to Crows.
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Well we are quiet!
What happen to our big bucks we had to spend Richardson? Surely we have to have something in the pipeline, there is no way we can be this quiet......
Don't forget we have 3 blokes coming it of contract next year that are going to take up a roar bit of coin in Cotchin, Martin & Rance. Would hope that's what the $$ are going to be used on
would hope we don't hamstring ourselves and would hope those 3 dnt hold the club to ransom
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With the kinda bucks being thrown around right now, they could all reasonably ask for 700-800
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Collingwood demanding Dangerfiel for Beams :lol
Essendrug demanding Wingard for Ryder :lol
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
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Wouldnt think Essendrug are in a position to demand anything :rollin
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Well we are quiet!
What happen to our big bucks we had to spend Richardson? Surely we have to have something in the pipeline, there is no way we can be this quiet......
Don't forget we have 3 blokes coming it of contract next year that are going to take up a roar bit of coin in Cotchin, Martin & Rance. Would hope that's what the $$ are going to be used on
thatvactually should make it easier to get deals done. You could front load one, middle load another and backload the third players contact and pay them all well!!
They could but only if the players (read their managers ;D) agree
With the kinda bucks being thrown around right now, they could all reasonably ask for 700-800
So you are suggesting that one of the 3 not get a pay rise? ;D ;D
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
That spud won the game for them against us. He is the latest member of the spuds to kick a bag against the tigers group.
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
That spud won the game for them against us. He is the latest member of the spuds to kick a bag against the tigers group.
should we get him then ?
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
That spud won the game for them against us. He is the latest member of the spuds to kick a bag against the tigers group.
should we get him then ?
no, because he is average. You see mrakov thats what we do at tigerland, make average players look like superstars.
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Angus, you are just a delight to be around!
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Are Essendon after the same Wingard that told drafters he wasn't interested in leaving SA, and currently plays for Port Adelaide who may play in a grand final in the next few seasons?
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Are Essendon after the same Wingard that told drafters he wasn't interested in leaving SA, and currently plays for Port Adelaide who may play in a grand final in the next few seasons?
Yes I think that might be the one
But don't hold me to it :help
;D
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
That spud won the game for them against us. He is the latest member of the spuds to kick a bag against the tigers group.
should we get him then ?
no, because he is average. You see mrakov thats what we do at tigerland, make average players look like superstars.
we should get him then
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
That spud won the game for them against us. He is the latest member of the spuds to kick a bag against the tigers group.
should we get him then ?
no, because he is average. You see mrakov thats what we do at tigerland, make average players look like superstars.
not when they pull on a tigers jumper we dont
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Geez some are getting wound up with the trade period, that hasn't even started yet.
As we know half won't even eventuate.
There will be NO trades at Tigerland this year. :shh
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There will be NO trades at Tigerland this year. :shh
I guess there's plenty to get wound up about that Rodger :huh
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Key forward Liam Jones has told the Western Bulldogs he wants to explore his trade options after being dumped from the senior side in June.
North Melbourne and Carlton are interested in Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/liam-jones-wants-to-explore-trade-options-after-frustrating-season-with-western-bulldogs/story-fndv8weh-1227070687537
That spud would fit in really well at Carltank
That spud won the game for them against us. He is the latest member of the spuds to kick a bag against the tigers group.
should we get him then ?
no, because he is average. You see mrakov thats what we do at tigerland, make average players look like superstars.
we have two just like him griffiths and vickery. funny how our players are okay and wb are all duds. thought there was some good signs this yr from jones but ffs 5yrs in entering yr 6 and the things i complain about griffiths ring true for jones.
id happily swap vickery for jones and upgrade 2nd and 3rd rounders. in a way a nothing trade with both clubs hoping a change of scenery kick starts these blokes.id say jones has a better chance of becoming a good kpf though that is just my opinion.
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Collingwood demanding Dangerfiel for Beams :lol
Essendrug demanding Wingard for Ryder :lol
hmm not sold on wingard yet. beams for danger would be a fair swap. atm id say beams has had a better career.
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Channel 7's Tom Browne is reporting that Essendon's Patrick Ryder has chosen Port Adelaide as the club he wishes to be traded too and the announcement will be on Monday. The Herald-Sun is saying Port is willing to offer him a five-year contract and has indicated a willingness to give up a player and a first-round draft pick in a trade deal with Essendon.
According to SEN, Collingwood's Scott Pendlebury has today met with Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield with his manager Paul Connors also in attendance.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/paddy-ryder-indicates-port-adelaide-is-in-strong-contention-to-win-his-services-after-seeking-trade-from-essendon/story-fndv8s6g-1227071758008
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Channel 7's Tom Browne is reporting that Essendon's Patrick Ryder has chosen Port Adelaide as the club he wishes to be traded too and the announcement will be on Monday. The Herald-Sun is saying Port is willing to offer him a five-year contract and has indicated a willingness to give up a player and a first-round draft pick in a trade deal with Essendon.
Bloody hell! Port are going to be very tough to beat next year. First round pick and a player though :o The player would want to be a good average toiler otherwise I would suggest that they are paying overs.
According to SEN, Collingwood's Scott Pendlebury has today met with Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield with his manager Paul Connors also in attendance.
Collingwood aren't the attractive destination they once were. I would be surprised if Dangerfield moved there. Beams is not the same caliber as Dangerfield imo
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Channel 7's Tom Browne is reporting that Essendon's Patrick Ryder has chosen Port Adelaide as the club he wishes to be traded too and the announcement will be on Monday. The Herald-Sun is saying Port is willing to offer him a five-year contract and has indicated a willingness to give up a player and a first-round draft pick in a trade deal with Essendon.
Bloody hell! Port are going to be very tough to beat next year. First round pick and a player though :o The player would want to be a good average toiler otherwise I would suggest that they are paying overs.
According to SEN, Collingwood's Scott Pendlebury has today met with Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield with his manager Paul Connors also in attendance.
Collingwood aren't the attractive destination they once were. I would be surprised if Dangerfield moved there. Beams is not the same caliber as Dangerfield imo
the player will be steak knives and their 1st rounder is what pick 15 or 16.
they need a ruckman and ryder is a very good one but is also a capable fwd. good clubs keep on evolving for the better average clubs like us sit on our hands and do nothing too scared to take a risk.
hmm dangerfield or beams. personally id take beams, more substance to beams. flashy players dont win me over so easy. which one has had the better career to date. id argue beams.both have been great. beams is easily in the same class as dangerfield.
i wonder is it because hes at collingwood that tiger supporters put the blinkers on. both would add enormously to us.
geez beams to brisbane ryder to port danger will stay in adelaide.
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Beams is a gun but dangers best is better - Id take Danger but how could you go wrong?
I really hope we shake it up a bit this off season - think the club can be satisfied that we've laid some foundations over the past few seasons but with what we've got we aren't going to seriously challenge and if anything, may lose ground as clubs like GC and GWS start hurtling up the ladder improving quicker than we do. We need to be bold and go for some big list improvements - something like the jeff hogg for Gale, Brodders and Dundas deal. Need to give up quality to get quality.
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Beams is a gun but dangers best is better - Id take Danger but how could you go wrong?
I really hope we shake it up a bit this off season - think the club can be satisfied that we've laid some foundations over the past few seasons but with what we've got we aren't going to seriously challenge and if anything, may lose ground as clubs like GC and GWS start hurtling up the ladder improving quicker than we do. We need to be bold and go for some big list improvements - something like the jeff hogg for Gale, Brodders and Dundas deal. Need to give up quality to get quality.
our trouble is we dont have an abundance of very good players in one area thus we could afford to offload that extra very good player for a very good player in an area we lack in. we lack quality in all areas and cant afford to offload the quality players we do have.
i really liked what melbourne did last yr with tyson and salem. they built depth straight away well they found found two for one. tyson and 9 salem for pick 2??? enabled them to double up with out losing too much in quality. sheesh ive always liked tyson as a player im filthy we could not pull that deal off the yr before. anyway maybe thats the way to look at things.
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Shiel is the one we need to have a real crack at ...forget danger, don't have the currency or 900k avail with major re signings on the agenda in 2015, cotch, martin and Rance
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Butcher and pick 15/16 and port would be laughing.
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Why do port have to give them anything?
Take their sorry arses to court win again and walk away with Ryder for zero
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Why do port have to give them anything?
Take their sorry arses to court win again and walk away with Ryder for zero
The player won't want to be dragged through that poo , he d insist on a trade to avoid it
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Why do port have to give them anything?
Take their sorry arses to court win again and walk away with Ryder for zero
The player won't want to be dragged through that poo , he d insist on a trade to avoid it
yep he will and it looks like in the true Hinkley mantra he'll being fair and reasonable and offer up good compo out of respect for Ryders wishes - but I guarantee Essendon will make this impossible and ask for 1 of Wines/Wingard/Boak/Gray/Trengrove plus their first round pick. It will get ugly
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Maybe some of us of a certain age fondly remember the days of Graeme Richmond who was absolutely ruthless in getting people to RFC..I know its too much to ask but I want some of that philosophy back at RFC
BO any chance of Shiels?
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Maybe some of us of a certain age fondly remember the days of Graeme Richmond who was absolutely ruthless in getting people to RFC..I know its too much to ask but I want some of that philosophy back at RFC
BO any chance of Shiels?
Yes but we paid a price for that ruthlessness for a very long time.
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Maybe we should throw a lot at Claye Beams!
Like Collingwood did with the Cloke brothers to get Travis...... :whistle
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Go Richo..we paid a price but we also had almost 15 years of glory too
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Go Richo..we paid a price but we also had almost 15 years of glory too
I can't remember a single GF victory in those 15 years though.... :whistle
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67,69,73,74,80 don't ring a bell?
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67,69,73,74,80 don't ring a bell?
Sorry. Didn't follow the thread well. Thought you were talking about Matty Richardsons football career! :wallywink
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Go Richo..we paid a price but we also had almost 15 years of glory too
Yeah I know. But was it worth an sos campaign, 34 years without a flag, 4 finals in 32 years, countless coaches?
The success we had was not sustainable. If I was alive during that period then I would probably say yes but I only think of the present and the future.
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Big Gus Graham was back in Richmond today. Get the feeling he will return to Tigerland!
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Big Gus Graham was back in Richmond today. Get the feeling he will return to Tigerland!
:lol :lol
Kidding right!
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could he be orrens replacement but instead be on the vfl list.
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Yes to Gus.
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The Beefcake :clapping
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Still better than Hampson....... :banghead
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Full. Body. Cramp.
Get the head of merchandise on the line and watch the clubs coffers load up
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lethal nailed it. Its easy to remain near the top in this day and age with free agency.
Stay tuned for Frawley or a star midfielder to come to those whores at the end of next year, while we keep our pockets closed for rance, cotch and dusty's contracts.
The difference is in clubs like ours we have individual players who will hold out for more money, while the hawks players are already there and can easily manage their list through free agency and freeing up cash from sewell and shoenmakers.
Everyone talks about players leaving successful clubs, because of the lack of money but history says it doesn't make all that a difference to their overall list and flag aspirations.
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If we cant find a junior ruckman the equal of Beefcake ,then we need to shut up shop and put the for sale sign out the front
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According to Barrett this morning,
* Brisbane have offered Dayne Beams $3.5m over 5 years. It may even be as much as $800k per year. Collingwood are afraid of losing Beams for nothing as a free agent next year.
* Geelong is of the belief that Mitch Clark has nominated the Cats as his club of choice.
* Hawthorn will now get involved in the race for James Frawley. Geelong are still favoured to get him though so the Cats could end up with both Clark and Frawley.
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Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley has said he toyed with the idea of recruiting Claye Beams to the club in a bid to thwart brother Dayne’s homesickness and keep the him at the Magpies. And Buckley said should the Magpies agree to trade Beams to Brisbane Lions he wants a ready-made player in return — and one of similar star-power status.
Brisbane are not willing to part ways with youngsters James Aish or Sam Mayes, and have categorically taken Tom Rockliff, Pearce Hanley and Jack Redden out of discussions.
Gold Coast have thrown their hat into the ring for Dayne Beams, with the Suns reportedly speaking to Collingwood about a potential deal. Collingwood look to gain the best deal possible for the homeward bound-Magpie, and could easily trump cross-town rivals Brisbane since they have flagged their intentions to offer their two first-round draft selections at 7 and 14 and potentially a player.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nathan-buckley-says-collingwood-want-a-readymade-star-in-return-for-midfielder-dayne-beams/story-fnig5e6k-1227072491512
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Port Adelaide have confirmed that they will not entertain the prospect of trading away one of its stars to secure Essendon's Paddy Ryder. Power coach Hinkley has put his club’s first-round draft pick, currently No. 16, on the table for Ryder - who has been offered a five-year mega-deal to move to Alberton - and has not ruled out the possibility of adding a mid-range player to the deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/paddy-ryder-indicates-port-adelaide-is-in-strong-contention-to-win-his-services-after-seeking-trade-from-essendon/story-fni5f9de-1227071758008
North Melbourne will part ways with Liam Anthony.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-overhauls-fitness-program-mick-told-to-stop-it-a-roo-to-be-cut-and-sandos-next-job/story-fndv7pj3-1227072965195
Reports have suggested that Port Adelaide's John Butcher could find a new home at St Kilda this trade period, with Terry Millera set to be picked up by the Power since signalling his desire to return home to South Australia.
Brian Lake may not be offered a renewed contract at Hawthorn, despite playing a key part in Hawthorn's back to back flags. The former Bulldog, 32, is uncontracted for next season and with Hawthorn now leading the race for James Frawley it could be curtains closed for Lake, who the Hawks coughed up a first round pick for just two years ago.
Collingwood's salary cap space has opened up drastically in the past two years with Heath Shaw, Dale Thomas and soon to be Dayne Beams and Heritier Lumumba all walking away from the club, the Pies will have the money to lure Patrick Dangerfield with a suggested salary cap space of $1.3 million available.
Barrett asked whether Adelaide would say no to picks 2 & 3 (Frawley compo) from Melbourne for Dangerfield.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Hawks will do it again
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
After being unfairly overlooked yesterday, I would make contact with Ceglar's management and promise him a home where his talent will be appreciated.
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
nope, coz wait for it , they're fringe players , refer how savage went this year, he was a fringe player at st Kilda ::)
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
After being unfairly overlooked yesterday, I would make contact with Ceglar's management and promise him a home where his talent will be appreciated.
Sooooo, where would that be??? :whistle
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Still better than Hampson....... :banghead
I'd be better than Hampson, actually so would you ;D
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
nope, coz wait for it , they're fringe players , refer how savage went this year, he was a fringe player at st Kilda ::)
They were a bees dick from winning the VFL flag, and would of if cryil could GAF- Grimley, Sam looks decent. I reckon Sicily, James looks a player. Are you saying we should not be interested in Wanganeen/Celger/Hallahan/Hartung types?
Is it not a good concept to be looking for people at clubs like hawthorn/sydney/geelong that dont get a game? or has the savage trade frightened us too much?
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
After being unfairly overlooked yesterday, I would make contact with Ceglar's management and promise him a home where his talent will be appreciated.
Sooooo, where would that be??? :whistle
I would love to say Richmond but I have no faith in the selection policy and process in place so probably not us. :'(
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
After being unfairly overlooked yesterday, I would make contact with Ceglar's management and promise him a home where his talent will be appreciated.
Sooooo, where would that be??? :whistle
I would love to say Richmond but I have no faith in the selection policy and process in place so probably not us. :'(
:yep
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Are we looking at hawthorn fringe playerS?
I assume not
nope, coz wait for it , they're fringe players , refer how savage went this year, he was a fringe player at st Kilda ::)
was he. here i was thinking after a slow start he copped his share of injuries then played some opretty decent footy then missed the last two games with injury. injuries aside he played 14 games that hardly made him a fringe player. he was emergency for the g/f last yr and played in all three of hawthorns finals in 2012. reckon that made him at least a top 25 player at hawthorn.
whilst hes not my cup of tea because of deficiencies and consistency problems i can see why stkilda were happy to get himas the steak knives in the mcevoy trade. reckon hes had just as good a yr as many of our players this yr.
players at hawthorn i like on the outer.
shoenmakers, hallahan, and litherland.
shoenmakers who is much maligned i thought he just started find his feet and play some decent footy in 2012, had a good start to 2013 and did his knee early on. reckon he was just starting to find his feet again but missed the g/f.
hallahan has found it difficult to break into their midfield ive liked him since junior days and i think he can play. they risk losing him if they cant guarantee him a game.hes already shown he can play and dominate in the vfl hes a clearance machine and needs opportunity.
litherland is a claremont lad and i liked a fair bit of him as a junior. good athleticism pace and good size. at 192 he can play on both smaller and tall players. he got a fair few games this yr and he showed a bit.
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Savage > a fair few of our plodders
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agree Judge but the problem is we are rubbish at developing any talent thats borderline
savage please he was crap and who picked him up. Ooh yes thats right shitkilda the same club who let hawks steal Waverly for $1.
Hampson has stuffed us up in this years draft too because we are stuck with him for another year. That pick would have been nice to use on a Ceglar or a Clarke from Freo.
Will the club take a ruckman in this years draft. I doubt it.
Judge the thing is hawks have money to burn and their list is so even. Outside of Roughy who could command 800k plus a season. Not many so their good players wont be going anywhere along with a few fringe players also..
how about the club put pressure on these so called recruiters who are useless. Instead of taking the easy option of cherry picking other clubs why dont they find us the next jack, hannebury or breust.
Useless figa's that they are.
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We finally got a mention in the media but it's just to say we're out of the running for Mitch Clark. I never realised we were interested :laugh:.
Mitch Clark's choice is expected to come down to Geelong or Collingwood and be based on lifestyle ahead of money Essendon and Carlton remain only outside chances to secure the forward, with Richmond believed to be out of the running.
Giants forward Kristian Jaksch has gone away for a week's holiday and will decide in that time whether he would prefer to play for St Kilda or the Blues next year.
Carlton is the only club so far linked to Liam Jones.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mitch-clark-set-to-choose-between-geelong-and-collingwood-as-his-new-home-20140928-10n8fq.html#ixzz3EbNy2huw
The AFL website understands Hawthorn has emerged as the frontrunner to secure James Frawley's services when the free agency period opens next Friday (October 3).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-28/hawks-may-tempt-frawley
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I cant believe it and imagine the Hawks with Frawley...another 10 years at the top...
FFS RCF, get the stuff involved....
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Dead set delusional
People that rate frawley inferior to Chaplin
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Dead set delusional
People that rate frawley inferior to Chaplin
Who Bents?
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Anyone of that mindset
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I cant believe it and imagine the Hawks with Frawley...another 10 years at the top...
FFS RCF, get the stuff involved....
Come again , frawley ain't alex Rance my friend , in fact his 2014 was closer to the last you saw of jon Hay :shh
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I cant believe it and imagine the Hawks with Frawley...another 10 years at the top...
FFS RCF, get the stuff involved....
Come again , frawley ain't alex Rance my friend , in fact his 2014 was closer to the last you saw of jon Hay :shh
Yeah well when I wanted Gibson at the RFC people said the same about him.....history as they say. Put Frawley in that team and watch him.
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I cant believe it and imagine the Hawks with Frawley...another 10 years at the top...
FFS RCF, get the stuff involved....
Come again , frawley ain't alex Rance my friend , in fact his 2014 was closer to the last you saw of jon Hay :shh
Yeah well when I wanted Gibson at the RFC people said the same about him.....history as they say. Put Frawley in that team and watch him.
We just delisted the next Josh Gibson.... retention of Thomarse the Turnover Tortoise & Top Bloke Newy getting his farewell tour far more important........all aboard the tiggy train for a sentimental journey to nowhere......
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Frawley > darrou > Chaplin
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baffling decision, but then again he was given many opportunities in the seniors by our coaching staff.
If good ol Timmy Clarke doesn't rate him then i dont rate him.
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Dayne Beams will rebuff all Collingwood attempts to retain him in 2015, adamant he will be traded to Brisbane by the end of trade week.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/dayne-beams-will-rebuff-collingwood-attempts-to-retain-him-demanding-trade-to-brisbane-lions/story-fndv8g1a-1227073150293
It's now rumoured Alex Fasolo has requested to be traded from Collingwood despite signing a 2 year deal earlier this year. Slowly the Pies are being dismantled by disgruntled players or Buckley.. Depending on how you view the situation.
St Kilda have reportedly offered their prized number 1 draft pick to Sydney for Luke Parker.
Nick Malceski will spend the next 2 weeks to discuss with his family where his future lies. It is expected the 30 year old will return to Victoria.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles?fref=nf
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A reminder that Hutchy's AFL Trade Radio starts today from 9am.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
https://www.facebook.com/TradeRadio
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A reminder that Hutchy's AFL Trade Radio starts today from 9am.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
https://www.facebook.com/TradeRadio
Doesn't trade week not start until next week. Are they going to be making up rumours all week to fill time.
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Anyone got a list of restricted and unrestricted free agents ?
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Jono O'Rourke wants out.
No 2 draft pick from 2 seasons ago.
personally i didn't see much of him so i can't be sure whether he's worth chasing.
Then again I never heard of Miles before this year.
Is he what we need?
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Heres another, not much idea myself but mate reckons well worth a look?
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/player-profile/george-burbury
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Jarrad Waite has walked out on Carlton. Off to North as a free agent.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/waite-walks-out-on-blues
Jay Clarke has reported that GWS former No. 2 draft pick Jono O'Rourke has requested a trade. The Giants want a first-round pick in return. Brett Anderson from Inside Footy is saying O'Rourke is likely to head to St.Kilda.
Trade Radio understands that Brisbane's Joel Platfull may seek a trade to "chase some success" at another club.
@AlexFasolo: "Haven't requested a trade. Don't want to play anywhere else, even if someone out there did want me..."
From the AFL website:
Essendon's Ben Howlett could look for a trade back to WA. Howlett is currently out of contract.
The GWS Giants are understood to have shown interest in axed Saints defender James Gwilt.
Essendon are reportedly interested in Carlton's Jeff Garlett and Sydney's Tim Membrey.
Hawthorn's Ryan Schoenmakers has been linked to the Adelaide
http://afl.com.au
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Keeping our powder dry for Hoskin-Elliot & Cameron next year.
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Anyone got a list of restricted and unrestricted free agents ?
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Jason Porplyzia - Adelaide
Jarrad Waite - Carlton ....... off to North
Leroy Jetta - Essendon
Dustin Fletcher - Essendon ..... staying at Essendon
Luke McPharlin - Fremantle ..... staying at Freo
Brad Sewell - Hawthorn
James Frawley - Melbourne
Michael Firrito - North Melbourne
Tom Logan - Port Adelaide
James Gwilt - St.Kilda
Clint Jones - St.Kilda
Adam Goodes - Sydney ...... staying at Sydney if he goes on.
Nick Malceski - Sydney
Restricted Free Agent:
Shaun Higgins - Western Bulldogs
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/free-agency-list-shortens
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Gold Coast have been confirmed as one of the clubs in the running to sign unrestricted free agent Nick Malceski. Malceski's manager, Ben Niall of Scopo Management, said the Suns were in the mix and also revealed clubs were prepared to offer two-year deals, with a third-year trigger.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Paul Connors on trade radio speaking about his clients.
Beams will be a Lion but the trade will involve multiple clubs
Ryder will be at Port but Pick 16 won't be enough
Dangerfield is very happy at Adelaide
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles?fref=nf
Carlton have dismissed talk they are interested in Bulldogs free agent Shaun Higgins. McKay mentioned there were two other clubs interested in Higgins but he wouldn't name them.
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McKay on Robinson/Garlett: We've got a bit of interest and we'll know more Monday who wants both of those boys.
McKay: We need to bolster our 21, 22 year age bracket. We'd be interested in a player like Liam (Jones).
https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/516449578694873088
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I assume any move we make will be dependent on when Port announce their delistings.
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Yes Carltank :clapping take Jones :lol
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The only thing I can think of for us not being linked to anyone is we have something big happening and we are being incredibly secretive.
Surely we are getting involved, we couldn't be that stupid could we?
Nothing really would surprise me though.
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Patrick Dangerfield is not on the trade table despite Melbourne revealing it is prepared to offer pick two and three in the 2014 NAB AFL draft for the Crows star. Dangerfield is not entertaining offers from rivals clubs and will be at the Adelaide Crows in 2015, according to his management.
Heritier Lumumba has nominated Melbourne as his preferred club to be traded to and the Demons are ready to do a deal with Collingwood, according to Melbourne football operations manager Josh Mahoney.
CARLTON has moved to distance itself from making any approach to Sydney Swan Tom Mitchell, but has stated an interested in Greater Western Sydney youngster Kristian Jaksch and Western Bulldog Liam Jones.
Source: http://afl.com.au
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Source
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
lets hope he plays some games then coz mostly he is injured
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
lets hope he plays some games then coz mostly he is injured
Somebody has to keep Knights company in rehab.
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Source
BBQ
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Ive got a bit of mail in same direction but was reluctant to share as on this occasion the source WASNT iron clad like it normally is , all I'll say is interesting and when FJ and H set their minds to something they generally get their man :shh
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Ive got a bit of mail in same direction but was reluctant to share as on this occasion the source WASNT iron clad like it normally is , all I'll say is interesting and when FJ and H set their minds to something they generally get their man :shh
Can they target someone decent then?
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We should be looking to offload Grigg ffs
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Higgins can play make no mistake, in a decent environment sharing a front half with a coleman medalist, dusty and lids , we d be borderline unstoppable :shh :clapping :dancing
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Ive got a bit of mail in same direction but was reluctant to share as on this occasion the source WASNT iron clad like it normally is , all I'll say is interesting and when FJ and H set their minds to something they generally get their dud :shh
e.f.a
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Ive got a bit of mail in same direction but was reluctant to share as on this occasion the source WASNT iron clad like it normally is , all I'll say is interesting and when FJ and H set their minds to something they generally get their man :shh
FJ could pan for gold in the Rio favelas :shh
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Expect Higgins to nominate us as his preferred club
Ive got a bit of mail in same direction but was reluctant to share as on this occasion the source WASNT iron clad like it normally is , all I'll say is interesting and when FJ and H set their minds to something they generally get their man :shh
FJ could pan for gold in the Rio favelas :shh
i just wish he would stop fishing in every cities sewer system.
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Melbourne offered pick 2 & 3 for dangerfield. I would offer up Lids or even Rance for that.....
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Melbourne offered pick 2 & 3 for dangerfield. I would offer up Lids or even Rance for that.....
Lids+Grigg would do
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Wish the club Would be brave enough to do it :pray
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Stuff Lids. Has 2 more good years left at most, his achilles could go at any time too. Would trade him for 2+3
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I reached the point where I pretty much don't care what happens during this period anymore coz I know we never get anyone that's really good. the rfc will go shopping again in the brotherhood bins looking for the elcheapo players. that's all. moneyball is the philosophy so people better get used to it. its crap and it doesn't leave us with much to watch when Richmond is playing but that's our lot in life. we will only get hacks or players who are broken down with rfc just hoping that they come good. that's all.
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Do we have any interest in JOR (O'Rourke)?
Blaisee: No....... Ive said it before, we aren't big fans of what he brings to the table
RFCO: John's grandfather played for the Tigers in the 40's and 50's, there's a family connection there.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-targets-2014.1077829/page-34#post-35384711
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Mark Stevens on Ch 7 said tonight that Carlton will get pick 27 as compensation for losing Waite.
North Melbourne have reportedly shown interest in the Western Bulldog's Shaun Higgins, who is a restricted free agent.
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I reached the point where I pretty much don't care what happens during this period anymore coz I know we never get anyone that's really good. the rfc will go shopping again in the brotherhood bins looking for the elcheapo players. that's all. moneyball is the philosophy so people better get used to it. its crap and it doesn't leave us with much to watch when Richmond is playing but that's our lot in life. we will only get hacks or players who are broken down with rfc just hoping that they come good. that's all.
Moneyball's just the trendy new Hollywood name for what we've always done - top up with rejects and glass half full types©claw.
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Hawthorn could still be in the hunt for Mitch Clark according to Mark Stevens. A decision on his future could be announced tomorrow.
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Trade Rumour
GWS are set to trade with St Kilda to secure Pick 1 and Christian Petracca.
The trade would see pick 3 and Kristian Jaksch sent to St Kilda for Pick 1.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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RICHMOND - In the market for an inside midfielder but appears to be laying low in trade talks. Happy to go to the draft.
Brisbane's Joel Patfull wants to move to Sydney but is contracted at the Lions for another season.
Essendon is believed to have shown some interest in Carlton’s Jeff Garlett.
Gold Coast in box seat to land Swan Nick Malceski but uncertainty over coach is not ideal. Have met Carlton’s Mitch Robinson. Won’t get Courtenay Dempsey from Essendon. Could off-load Daniel Gorringe.
GWS could get Joel Patfull.
Hawthorn have considered Mitch Robinson.
http://www.news.com.au/national/trade-whispers-who-is-your-club-chasing-in-the-afl-free-agency-draft-period/story-e6frfkp9-1227074447591
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Jono O'Rourke has told Greater Western Sydney he wants to return home to Victoria, with North Melbourne, Hawthorn and St Kilda all jockeying to secure the former junior star ball-winner. North's pick at 13 would more readily get a deal done which would beat out Hawthorn and St Kilda's second pick (they'd unlikely use pick 1).
Gold Coast, one WA club & one Vic club are interested in Swan Nick Malceski.
Carlton's Mitch Robinson has attracted some interest from several clubs including, it is understood, the Brisbane Lions.
Jeff Garlett has received tepid interest.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/gws-gun-wants-to-go-home-to-victoria-20140929-10nqcx.html#ixzz3EjKCjn7H
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I would say we need more outside mids as were slow there، mids who breake the lines and run and carry.
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Well done @NorthKangaroos. They wanted Nick Dal Santo last year and they got him. They wanted Shaun Higgins this year. And they've got him.
thank goodness
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@White_Adam
Well done @NorthKangaroos. They wanted Nick Dal Santo last year and they got him. They wanted Shaun Higgins this year. And they've got him.
thank goodness
:bow
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I would say we need more outside mids as were slow there، mids who breake the lines and run and carry.
Need both.
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well done north for getting Higgins allows us not to go down the same path as Jordan McMahon hahaha heill break done round 1 or nab challenge.
Thank u north u have saved a lot off us supporters heartache
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I would say we need more outside mids as were slow there، mids who breake the lines and run and carry.
Need both.
agree completely
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I would say we need more outside mids as were slow there، mids who breake the lines and run and carry.
Need both.
I would like one like Yablett or Fyfe
(Inb4 we could have had Fyfe)
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Gorringe wants out of GC. Should go after him
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I would say we need more outside mids as were slow there، mids who breake the lines and run and carry.
Need both.
I would like one like Yablett or Fyfe
We could have had Fyfe :banghead
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I would say we need more outside mids as were slow there، mids who breake the lines and run and carry.
Need both.
I would like one like Yablett or Fyfe
We could have had Fyfe :banghead
Yeah and we could have had Pavlich, Roughead, Franklin, Ward etc etc etc. What is the point of depressing yourself from past mistakes? The only thing is that I hope we learn from past mistakes so we don't make too many more in the future. Some players, however, will always surprise a few clubs that don't pick them by developing far more than was apparent from their schoolboy years.
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Gorringe wants out of GC. Should go after him
x 2
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Mitch Clark has nominated to play at Geelong.
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Don't rate him, what's he done since u12s :shh
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Gorringe wants out of GC. Should go after him
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Would be a handy pick up but don't you think we have bigger holes to fill first? He would cost us a second rounder at worst.
We will never be a good side with the likes of Batchelor, Houli, Grigg, Petterd, Thomas, even Gordon and Lloyd in our best 22. I'm not saying get rid of them all but these should be our depth players.
Fill these spots first in our best 22 RFC before we get in depth players. We have a decent ruckman and some back ups. When Maric is done, then maybe go out and buy a ready made ruckman but I don't see the point of spending a second rounder on a bloke that will probably play in the twos more than in the ones for the next couple of years.
IMO get Garlett, Shiel and Frawley in and that's 3 spots filled. Replace Houli with Dea and hope Lennon can improve and our best 22 is a hell of a lot better!!
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/greg-swann-says-melbourne-shouldnt-receive-pick-3-as-compensation-for-james-frawley/story-fn69a32t-1227075399185
here here Swanny. Who the stuff do the dees think they are.
either end of first round or stuff it off totally. FA is stuffed up
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Tutt is another Dog that has walked out along with Higgins and Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jason-tutt-latest-to-quit-western-bulldogs-in-search-of-new-contract-at-rival-afl-club/story-fndv8weh-1227075622351
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Daily Wrap Up - Tuesday
- Melbourne's Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong as his preferred destination.
- Bulldogs Shaun Higgins has confirmed he will leave via Free Agency, Likely to North Melbourne.
- Bulldogs Forward Liam Jones has requested a trade to Carlton.
- Gold Coast ruckman Dan Gorringe has informed the club he wants to be traded back home, Nominated Port Adelaide as preferred destination. Adelaide are interested in securing the services of Gorringe according to Trade Radio.
- Neil Balme has confirmed that Geelong's Taylor Hunt may look for opportunities at other clubs next year.
- Several clubs have inquired about Brisbane's Daniel Merrett according to Lions talent and retention manager Peter Schwab.
- Melbourne have confirmed their interest in Giants defender Sam Frost.
- Two Clubs have shown interest in delisted St.Kilda defender James Gwilt.
- Melbourne are reportedly content with trading Pick 22 for Heritier Lumumba.
- Brisbane is the only club interested in Carlton's Mitch Robinson.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
3AW tonight saying Geelong Travis Varcoe has been mentioned as a straight swap for Mitch Clark, however from Melbourne’s point of view, it seems unlikely.
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Would be a handy pick up but don't you think we have bigger holes to fill first? He would cost us a second rounder at worst.
We will never be a good side with the likes of Batchelor, Houli, Grigg, Petterd, Thomas, even Gordon and Lloyd in our best 22. I'm not saying get rid of them all but these should be our depth players.
Fill these spots first in our best 22 RFC before we get in depth players. We have a decent ruckman and some back ups. When Maric is done, then maybe go out and buy a ready made ruckman but I don't see the point of spending a second rounder on a bloke that will probably play in the twos more than in the ones for the next couple of years.
IMO get Garlett, Shiel and Frawley in and that's 3 spots filled. Replace Houli with Dea and hope Lennon can improve and our best 22 is a hell of a lot better!!
We have a number of holes to fill BT and I think that another capable but younger ruckman is one of them. Maric at his age and with his recent history is suspect with regards to soundness and I don't believe Griffiths or Vickery are capable pure first ruck alternatives. Back up rucks/around the ground talls, yes, but not senior frontline ruckmen. And Hampspud is Hampspud, hopefully never to grace the senior side with his presence again. Which leaves us 1 decent young ruckman short in my perfect structured scenario. I am a fan of playing 2 ruckmen and would be very happy with Maric/Gorringe/Griffiths in our starting 22 with Vickery as depth. And I don't think we would need to spend a 2nd round on him - my uneducated guess is 3rd round and I would be prepared to pay that as fair. And I don't share your love for Garlett, we don't need another troubled, unreliable and inconsistent player.
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Tutt is another Dog that has walked out along with Higgins and Jones.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jason-tutt-latest-to-quit-western-bulldogs-in-search-of-new-contract-at-rival-afl-club/story-fndv8weh-1227075622351
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Daily Wrap Up - Tuesday
- Melbourne's Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong as his preferred destination.
- Bulldogs Shaun Higgins has confirmed he will leave via Free Agency, Likely to North Melbourne.
- Bulldogs Forward Liam Jones has requested a trade to Carlton.
- Gold Coast ruckman Dan Gorringe has informed the club he wants to be traded back home, Nominated Port Adelaide as preferred destination. Adelaide are interested in securing the services of Gorringe according to Trade Radio.
- Neil Balme has confirmed that Geelong's Taylor Hunt may look for opportunities at other clubs next year.
- Several clubs have inquired about Brisbane's Daniel Merrett according to Lions talent and retention manager Peter Schwab.
- Melbourne have confirmed their interest in Giants defender Sam Frost.
- Two Clubs have shown interest in delisted St.Kilda defender James Gwilt.
- Melbourne are reportedly content with trading Pick 22 for Heritier Lumumba.
- Brisbane is the only club interested in Carlton's Mitch Robinson.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
3AW tonight saying Geelong Travis Varcoe has been mentioned as a straight swap for Mitch Clark, however from Melbourne’s point of view, it seems unlikely.
What is about all the ruckman wanting to go to Poort, they will have about 10 rucks
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What is about all the ruckman wanting to go to Poort, they will have about 10 rucks
Lobbe is their only real ruckman and he's left to carry too much of their ruck workload. Westhoff had to fill in when Lobbe needed a rest during games.
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Would be a handy pick up but don't you think we have bigger holes to fill first? He would cost us a second rounder at worst.
We will never be a good side with the likes of Batchelor, Houli, Grigg, Petterd, Thomas, even Gordon and Lloyd in our best 22. I'm not saying get rid of them all but these should be our depth players.
Fill these spots first in our best 22 RFC before we get in depth players. We have a decent ruckman and some back ups. When Maric is done, then maybe go out and buy a ready made ruckman but I don't see the point of spending a second rounder on a bloke that will probably play in the twos more than in the ones for the next couple of years.
IMO get Garlett, Shiel and Frawley in and that's 3 spots filled. Replace Houli with Dea and hope Lennon can improve and our best 22 is a hell of a lot better!!
We have a number of holes to fill BT and I think that another capable but younger ruckman is one of them. Maric at his age and with his recent history is suspect with regards to soundness and I don't believe Griffiths or Vickery are capable pure first ruck alternatives. Back up rucks/around the ground talls, yes, but not senior frontline ruckmen. And Hampspud is Hampspud, hopefully never to grace the senior side with his presence again. Which leaves us 1 decent young ruckman short in my perfect structured scenario. I am a fan of playing 2 ruckmen and would be very happy with Maric/Gorringe/Griffiths in our starting 22 with Vickery as depth. And I don't think we would need to spend a 2nd round on him - my uneducated guess is 3rd round and I would be prepared to pay that as fair. And I don't share your love for Garlett, we don't need another troubled, unreliable and inconsistent player.
A 3rd rounder would be perfect but let's wait and see what someone is willing to pay for him. A 3rd rounder is wishfully thinking, if you rate him like it sounds like you do, you will know he is worth more than that.
On Garlett, he had an awful year no doubt, but surely that doesn't undo all his good work previously??
Anyway, we are pathetic in all forms of getting decent players to our club so it's a waste of energy even hoping we can turn that around.
I'm starting to loose all hope that Benny Gale was the man to turn this club around on field. He seems to be as soft as every other pretender before him. No balls! No thinking outside the box. Just safe, easy calls on our players and coaching staff.
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Hopefully Gale will finally start to show some balls now he's no longer auditioning for the top gig at the AFL.....not banking on it though....
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I am sick of seeing Hawthorn and Geelong get all the best players, year after year, while we sit back and do nothing. Mind you we shoot ourselves in the foot when we put it out there that we are tight with our player payments. The way we handled contract negotiations last year hasn't helped either, the Dusty situation looked bad on both parties, Matty White, can you imagine the outside perception of that by potential players to our club? It is not just Tiger fans who find it unbelievable that he wasn't offered at least 2 years by the club, which he reportedly would have stayed for. We are just not an attractive proposition for good quality professional players at the moment, let alone any of the guns.
One other thing, who would want to come to Richmond and get yelled at by Riewoldt and Chaplin, our so called fwd and defensive leaders who themselves are virtually incapable of second efforts. For leaders their body language is disgusting, yelling and cursing at the players, pointing fingers instead of chasing, who would want to play footy in a team with that?
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I'm hearing we're showing interest in reuniting the dynamic duo, we're all over Alex Conti and Taylor Petrenko. :shh
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On Garlett, he had an awful year no doubt, but surely that doesn't undo all his good work previously??
I'd take Garlett for a 3rd rounder or 3rd rounder and a fringe player
I'm starting to loose all hope that Benny Gale was the man to turn this club around on field. He seems to be as soft as every other pretender before him. No balls! No thinking outside the box. Just safe, easy calls on our players and coaching staff.
Sorry if I've misunderstood but Benny has nothing to do with list management, even he will tell you that (nor should he TBH). But agree re the footy department staff side of things, that's something he has does have a say in
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Players from bottom clubs wanting to go to top clubs. Free agency working as intended.
I'm hearing we're showing interest in reuniting the dynamic duo, we're all over Alex Conti and Taylor Petrenko. :shh
Was actually going to post up last night if you had anymore mail for us this year :lol
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On Garlett, he had an awful year no doubt, but surely that doesn't undo all his good work previously??
I'd take Garlett for a 3rd rounder or 3rd rounder and a fringe player
I'm starting to loose all hope that Benny Gale was the man to turn this club around on field. He seems to be as soft as every other pretender before him. No balls! No thinking outside the box. Just safe, easy calls on our players and coaching staff.
Sorry if I've misunderstood but Benny has nothing to do with list management, even he will tell you that (nor should he TBH). But agree re the footy department staff side of things, that's something he has does have a say in
Agree would take Garlett for a 3rd rounder
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Malthouse said exactly what I have been saying about FA compo the whole time. It is unfair to everyone else. Scrap it.
"Why should we at Carlton and any other club pay a penalty because Melbourne have lost Frawley?" Malthouse said.
"Why should I be penalised a spot in the draft because Frawley leaves and goes to Geelong or Hawthorn and Melbourne reaps the penalties of another draft pick?
"Free agency should be free, not come with some other candy stuck to it."
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-30/waite-defection-staggering
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Malthouse said exactly what I have been saying about FA compo the whole time. It is unfair to everyone else. Scrap it.
"Why should we at Carlton and any other club pay a penalty because Melbourne have lost Frawley?" Malthouse said.
"Why should I be penalised a spot in the draft because Frawley leaves and goes to Geelong or Hawthorn and Melbourne reaps the penalties of another draft pick?
"Free agency should be free, not come with some other candy stuck to it."
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-30/waite-defection-staggering
Old cranky uncle Mick is firing up lately
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Welcome to three years ago..
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Malthouse said exactly what I have been saying about FA compo the whole time. It is unfair to everyone else. Scrap it.
"Why should we at Carlton and any other club pay a penalty because Melbourne have lost Frawley?" Malthouse said.
"Why should I be penalised a spot in the draft because Frawley leaves and goes to Geelong or Hawthorn and Melbourne reaps the penalties of another draft pick?
"Free agency should be free, not come with some other candy stuck to it."
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-30/waite-defection-staggering
Old cranky uncle Mick is firing up lately
Ran out of Rectinol.
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Melbourne target defenders - Brisbane's Daniel Merrett and Giant Sam Front.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-01/dees-target-defenders
Chris Pelchan has confirmed St Kilda has met with former small-forward, Ahmed Saad's management.
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Take a risk Richmond.
Throw up all players for trade. I'd trade anyone if we won out of the deal. Apart from our Captain.
Ask Freo what they would give up for Jack Riewoldt. A pair of Stephen Hill, Lachie Neale, Michael Walters and Michael Barlow would be nice.
Ask WA what they would want for Gaff. Conca and what?
Deledio is getting older. Would fit nicely at Hawthorn with an aging midfield. First round pick and one of Luke Breust, Matt Suckling, Gunston would do.
Just get active. The list is mid table. Take a risk, GC and GWS will go past us if we hope on natural development and moneyball type pick ups. Our youth can't compete with them. Sooner or Later their youth will be prime and we will be stuffed.
We need a small forward and better options off half back. We need pace. Wow do we need pace. Look at Port vs Hawks, they smashed them in the last with their pace. We need some desperately or we will fall behind. Get active, aggressive and take a risk.
Hawks traded out their 21 year old superstar in Trent Croad. Was the next 'Dunstall'. Got pick 1 and 30 odd. Turned into Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell if anyone read the article recently. Genius.
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Agree, Pontiff - good post.
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Who doesn't Melbourne target ?
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Hawks traded out their 21 year old superstar in Trent Croad. Was the next 'Dunstall'. Got pick 1 and 30 odd. Turned into Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell if anyone read the article recently. Genius.
We would have overlooked them and picked two duds instead
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Take a risk Richmond.
Throw up all players for trade. I'd trade anyone if we won out of the deal. Apart from our Captain.
Ask Freo what they would give up for Jack Riewoldt. A pair of Stephen Hill, Lachie Neale, Michael Walters and Michael Barlow would be nice.
Ask WA what they would want for Gaff. Conca and what?
Deledio is getting older. Would fit nicely at Hawthorn with an aging midfield. First round pick and one of Luke Breust, Matt Suckling, Gunston would do.
Just get active. The list is mid table. Take a risk, GC and GWS will go past us if we hope on natural development and moneyball type pick ups. Our youth can't compete with them. Sooner or Later their youth will be prime and we will be stuffed.
We need a small forward and better options off half back. We need pace. Wow do we need pace. Look at Port vs Hawks, they smashed them in the last with their pace. We need some desperately or we will fall behind. Get active, aggressive and take a risk.
Hawks traded out their 21 year old superstar in Trent Croad. Was the next 'Dunstall'. Got pick 1 and 30 odd. Turned into Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell if anyone read the article recently. Genius.
agree we need to be bold and take a risk to improve exponentially now, we've reached a certain base, now if we're serious we must be willing to make hard calls to take the next step
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On Garlett, he had an awful year no doubt, but surely that doesn't undo all his good work previously??
I'd take Garlett for a 3rd rounder or 3rd rounder and a fringe player
I'm starting to loose all hope that Benny Gale was the man to turn this club around on field. He seems to be as soft as every other pretender before him. No balls! No thinking outside the box. Just safe, easy calls on our players and coaching staff.
Sorry if I've misunderstood but Benny has nothing to do with list management, even he will tell you that (nor should he TBH). But agree re the footy department staff side of things, that's something he has does have a say in
Agree on Garlett's worth. Our 3rd rounder would be about right IMO. Hopefully we could off load a couple of ours for 3rd rounders so we still had a pick or 2 in that round.
On Benny I do think he has a say in all matters in the club including list management. He is an ex footballer with a very good footy brain, of course he has some input. It would be stupid not to ask his opinion on some things and players.
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Hawks traded out their 21 year old superstar in Trent Croad. Was the next 'Dunstall'. Got pick 1 and 30 odd. Turned into Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell if anyone read the article recently. Genius.
mcpharlin was a part of the croad trade.
mcpharlin was drafted in 99 at pick 10. croad in 97 at pick 3.
so in effect in 2001 freo recieved croad and mcpharlin for pick 1, 20 and 36. or in a way picks 3, 10, for 1,20 and 36.
in 2003 croad was traded back to hawthorn for pick 10
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Frawley officially confirms he's leaving the Demons.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-01/frawley-quits-dees
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Frawley officially confirms he's leaving the Demons.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-01/frawley-quits-dees
Did anyone expect him to stay.
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On Benny I do think he has a say in all matters in the club including list management. He is an ex footballer with a very good footy brain, of course he has some input. It would be stupid not to ask his opinion on some things and players.
He has said many times publicly (in the media) and functions that he doesn't have any input in list management as it isn't his area of expertise. So based on that I've always taken him on face value.
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On Benny I do think he has a say in all matters in the club including list management. He is an ex footballer with a very good footy brain, of course he has some input. It would be stupid not to ask his opinion on some things and players.
He has said many times publicly (in the media) and functions that he doesn't have any input in list management as it isn't his area of expertise. So based on that I've always taken him on face value.
Come on WP, a president isn't going to tell the world he sticks his nose in to other departments. For one he wouldn't need the extra pressure if things he had helped on went pair shaped, and two it's the company line. I would be horrified to think he didn't have a say with the nuffies employed at our club. I would be happy if he did FJ's job as well as his own. He couldn't do any worse. :thumbsup
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On Benny I do think he has a say in all matters in the club including list management. He is an ex footballer with a very good footy brain, of course he has some input. It would be stupid not to ask his opinion on some things and players.
He has said many times publicly (in the media) and functions that he doesn't have any input in list management as it isn't his area of expertise. So based on that I've always taken him on face value.
Come on WP, a president isn't going to tell the world he sticks his nose in to other departments. For one he wouldn't need the extra pressure if things he had helped on went pair shaped, and two it's the company line. I would be horrified to think he didn't have a say with the nuffies employed at our club. I would be happy if he did FJ's job as well as his own. He couldn't do any worse. :thumbsup
But he isn't the president :laugh: ;D
I would be disappointed if he did have say as CEO, not his job to manage the list, his job is to run the business
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On Benny I do think he has a say in all matters in the club including list management. He is an ex footballer with a very good footy brain, of course he has some input. It would be stupid not to ask his opinion on some things and players.
He has said many times publicly (in the media) and functions that he doesn't have any input in list management as it isn't his area of expertise. So based on that I've always taken him on face value.
Come on WP, a president isn't going to tell the world he sticks his nose in to other departments. For one he wouldn't need the extra pressure if things he had helped on went pair shaped, and two it's the company line. I would be horrified to think he didn't have a say with the nuffies employed at our club. I would be happy if he did FJ's job as well as his own. He couldn't do any worse. :thumbsup
But he isn't the president :laugh: ;D
I would be disappointed if he did have say as CEO, not his job to manage the list, his job is to run the business
Is list management not part of the business?
If the list manager was not doing the right thing by the club, would it be his job to do something about it?
Just because something is not your direct job, as a president or CEO it is your job to fix the problem. Otherwise the "business" would suffer.
Don't believe everything you hear WP. Some people tell lies. :shh
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you are correct in part. but i never heard of a ceo or president doing the work of those below him in the food chain if they think are under performing.
they normally just replace them.
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Hawks traded out their 21 year old superstar in Trent Croad. Was the next 'Dunstall'. Got pick 1 and 30 odd. Turned into Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell if anyone read the article recently. Genius.
mcpharlin was a part of the croad trade.
mcpharlin was drafted in 99 at pick 10. croad in 97 at pick 3.
so in effect in 2001 freo recieved croad and mcpharlin for pick 1, 20 and 36. or in a way picks 3, 10, for 1,20 and 36.
in 2003 croad was traded back to hawthorn for pick 10
Hawks then went on to win 3 flags.
Who was the last club to win a flag by playing it safe?
#rollthedice
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The Age reporting a possible 3-way trade between Carlton, Hawthorn and GWS involving Jaksch and O'Rourke.
Carlton give up pick 6 in return for both Jaksch & pick 18.
Hawthorn give up pick 18 for O'Rourke.
GWS gain pick 6 for losing Jaksch & O'Rourke.
Jaksch is away for the next week deciding whether he wants to go to Carlton or St Kilda.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/it8217s-finally-official-frawley-to-leave-the-demons-20141001-10ovf4.html
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Is list management not part of the business?
If the list manager was not doing the right thing by the club, would it be his job to do something about it?
Just because something is not your direct job, as a president or CEO it is your job to fix the problem. Otherwise the "business" would suffer.
Don't believe everything you hear WP. Some people tell lies. :shh
You are correct list management is part of the business, an area of the business within a department. The CEO doesn't run the footy department the head of football does which is Richardson.
Al sums it up well
you are correct in part. but i never heard of a ceo or president doing the work of those below him in the food chain if they think are under performing.
they normally just replace them.
And I am on record as saying that while Benny is CEO and supports Dimma unconditionally the entire footy dept is safe. Board backs Benny
That's the set up at the Tigers ;D
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Hawks traded out their 21 year old superstar in Trent Croad. Was the next 'Dunstall'. Got pick 1 and 30 odd. Turned into Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell if anyone read the article recently. Genius.
mcpharlin was a part of the croad trade.
mcpharlin was drafted in 99 at pick 10. croad in 97 at pick 3.
so in effect in 2001 freo recieved croad and mcpharlin for pick 1, 20 and 36. or in a way picks 3, 10, for 1,20 and 36.
in 2003 croad was traded back to hawthorn for pick 10
Hawks then went on to win 3 flags.
Who was the last club to win a flag by playing it safe?
#rollthedice
Hawks have done well because they have recruited well. eg getting Burgoyne from Port Adelaide, Gunston from Adelaide and snapping up McEvoy. If our club is to have any chance of success tough decisions have to be made.
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FROM THE AFL WEBSITE
MASSIVE news day pushed trade activity into the background in the past 24 hours.
There were no surprises as Melbourne defender James Frawley finally informed the Demons he would test the free agency waters.
The 25-year-old is understood to be headed to either Hawthorn or Geelong.
Melbourne wasted no time revealing its interest in Brisbane Lions big man Daniel Merrett and young Greater Western Sydney backman Sam Frost to cover for Frawley's exit.
As Fremantle and the Sydney Swans swung the axe and announced their delistings, Swans champion Adam Goodes reportedly informed the club he will go around one last time next season, according to the Herald Sun.
Swans defender Nick Malceski is being chased by Gold Coast, West Coast and a Melbourne-based club, the report says.
Meanwhile, Port Adelaide declared it has room in its big-man department to accommodate Paddy Ryder and Daniel Gorringe as the ruck merry-go-round continues.
Hawks' ruck depth squeezes Lowden
Hawthorn ruckman Luke Lowden is the latest big man asking for a trade after being starved of opportunities at the back-to-back premiers.
The Herald Sun is reporting Lowden, who kicked three goals on debut against West Coast, is prepared to leave Waverley.
After six seasons at the Hawks, the 204cm big man has played just the solitary match.
He is fourth in line for a ruck spot at the Hawks behind David Hale, Ben McEvoy and Jonathon Ceglar.
While Gorringe has nominated the Power as his preferred destination, The Advertiser reports Adelaide is considering making a bid.
Dusty wants to stay at Tigerland
Twelve months after he toured GWS' facilities as he considered requesting a trade, Richmond star Dustin Martin is keen to sign a contract extension with the Tigers.
The Herald Sun reports the Tigers have set money aside for Martin and skipper Trent Cotchin, but still have room to secure an inside midfielder if any become available in the NAB AFL Trade Period.
St Kilda hard nut David Armitage, North Melbourne's big improver Levi Greenwood – who AFL.com.au reports is staying put at Arden St – and Swans star Daniel Hannebery have been linked to Richmond.
However, the Tigers are likely to head to the draft with their first pick – currently No.11 - at their disposal
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Frawley chooses Hawks.
stuff me dead, meanwhile we are keeping money aside
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Dusty wants to stay at Tigerland
Twelve months after he toured GWS' facilities as he considered requesting a trade, Richmond star Dustin Martin is keen to sign a contract extension with the Tigers.
The Herald Sun reports the Tigers have set money aside for Martin and skipper Trent Cotchin, but still have room to secure an inside midfielder if any become available in the NAB AFL Trade Period.
St Kilda hard nut David Armitage, North Melbourne's big improver Levi Greenwood – who AFL.com.au reports is staying put at Arden St – and Swans star Daniel Hannebery have been linked to Richmond.
However, the Tigers are likely to head to the draft with their first pick – currently No.11 - at their disposal.
Wouldn't mind Dan at tigerland!
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Sorry guys, remove if need be, didn't see that it was already posted as I was too excited lol.
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were do all these rumours come up from Richmond looking at stkildas armitage, norths Greenwood and Swans Hannebery..
Come on Hannebery was one of the main reason buddy went up to Sydney great mate doubt he would then play a year and leave....
Norths greenwood has had one good year what about the other 3 pretty ordinary in one week out the next north will need him as Harvey delsanto pretty much gone in 2 years..
armitage well who knows im sure his is a QLD boy and most likely would want to head home....
no offence if we are cashed up and we are saving our money for cotch and dusty then we are in trouble doubt cocth would be holding Richmond to ransom and after last year either will dusty so get a big fish
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David Armitage...NO stuffing WAY...
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Frawley chooses Hawks.
stuff me dead, meanwhile we are keeping money aside
Money no use when he doesn't want to come to us
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Is list management not part of the business?
If the list manager was not doing the right thing by the club, would it be his job to do something about it?
Just because something is not your direct job, as a president or CEO it is your job to fix the problem. Otherwise the "business" would suffer.
Don't believe everything you hear WP. Some people tell lies. :shh
You are correct list management is part of the business, an area of the business within a department. The CEO doesn't run the footy department the head of football does which is Richardson.
Al sums it up well
you are correct in part. but i never heard of a ceo or president doing the work of those below him in the food chain if they think are under performing.
they normally just replace them.
And I am on record as saying that while Benny is CEO and supports Dimma unconditionally the entire footy dept is safe. Board backs Benny
That's the set up at the Tigers ;D
which sort of says benny is not the man for the job if he cant identify those who dont do their jobs well. clearly there are those who havent done their jobs any where near as well they should.
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David Armitage...NO stuffING WAY...
Agreed WAT! Goes missing more often than Tony Bullimore.
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If the murmurs from Geelong are true, anyone think Taylor Hunt would be a good get? Seems to have plenty of pace and is hard at it. I guess we have to ask ourselves, is he a good player or an average player in a good side?
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Hawthorn's Luke Lowden has informed the club that he wants to be traded for further opportunities.
Tim Membrey has told the Swans he wants to be traded to a Victorian club.
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Get Lowden, Greenwood and Shiel. Two inside mids and a big ruckman would make me satisfied with the trade period.
Trade Conca and maybe Vickery. Not gonna make it.
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Membury wouldn't be too bad either as an extra option in the forward line. Classical 3rd/4th forward whose been in a good system and could cause damage to opposition team playing as the 3rd/4th forward
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Maybe these are some of the types of players we need to build our team....
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If the murmurs from Geelong are true, anyone think Taylor Hunt would be a good get? Seems to have plenty of pace and is hard at it. I guess we have to ask ourselves, is he a good player or an average player in a good side?
I was front of the bandwagon back when I read he could be out. Still keen. I think he is an above average player in a good team but he showed many times he can both run with the best as well as get his own footy. Wouldn't hurt to add more tough blokes to our side either.
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Luke Lowden in my opinion is Jordan Lisle mkII.
Hawks will get a nice return by moving him on now.
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James Frawley has chosen Hawthorn as his preferred club.
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James Frawley has chosen Hawthorn as his preferred club.
and that's is why Free Agency will be scrapped or at the very least changed very soon
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why?
so pee it off perfectly timed for richmond to get no benefit after the rest of the league has a stab?
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Frawley chooses Hawks.
stuff me dead, meanwhile we are keeping money aside
Money no use when he doesn't want to come to us
if you give him enough money he will/would of come
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Frawley chooses Hawks.
stuff me dead, meanwhile we are keeping money aside
Money no use when he doesn't want to come to us
if you give him enough money he will/would of come
Like $1.5m per season
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like 150k p/year more than hawthorn
what chaplin/grigg/houli on? :whistle
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James Frawley has chosen Hawthorn as his preferred club.
:banghead Why don't they just say James Frawley has chosen AFL as his preferred sport! :banghead
Jeez he's bounced around more than Kim Kardashian at a silicone conference
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like 150k p/year more than hawthorn
what chaplin/grigg/houli on? :whistle
what about if Hawks will pay $150k p/year more than we will
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then son of spud is a millionaire
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like 150k p/year more than hawthorn
what chaplin/grigg/houli on? :whistle
what about if Hawks will pay $150k p/year more than we will
That's Jenga....
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CARLTON is preparing to lose out-of-contract midfielder Kane Lucas, confirming he's on the trade table.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/blue-lucas-on-the-table
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FOUR AFL clubs have tested South Australian Sheffield Shield cricketer Ben Dougall with a view to selecting him in the NAB AFL Draft as a category B rookie. Dougall played two Sheffield Shield and three one-day games for South Australia as a left-handed batsmen in 2010-11. The 22-year-old has not played football for three years, having spent those winters playing cricket in England. But Dougall was an outstanding junior footballer with the Ramblers in South Australia's River Murray League as a midfielder/forward, with SANFL club West Adelaide rating him so highly it purchased him from his zoned team, Sturt, when he was 15. Dougall tested with one AFL club in April and another three clubs last week, two of them based in Victoria. He stands only 172cm but is powerfully built, skilled and quick, having run 2.85 seconds for the 20m sprint.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/four-clubs-go-to-bat-for-sa-cricketer
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Western Bulldogs have expressed interest in Sydney forwards Sam Reid and Tim Membrey.
Currently holding pick No.25, CEO Simon Garlick said the club could package that with potential compensation picks and chase a young tall like Reid or Membrey.
"Would a [pick] 25 and 26 get that deal done? It's a potential one that you'd look at."
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/trade-free-agency2/trade-tracker/
Ahmed Saad said his manager has spoken to a few clubs and there's he's had a fair bit of interest which is good.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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ffs get Sam Reid and send chaplin to the knackery
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CARLTON is preparing to lose out-of-contract midfielder Kane Lucas, confirming he's on the trade table.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/blue-lucas-on-the-table
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FOUR AFL clubs have tested South Australian Sheffield Shield cricketer Ben Dougall with a view to selecting him in the NAB AFL Draft as a category B rookie. Dougall played two Sheffield Shield and three one-day games for South Australia as a left-handed batsmen in 2010-11. The 22-year-old has not played football for three years, having spent those winters playing cricket in England. But Dougall was an outstanding junior footballer with the Ramblers in South Australia's River Murray League as a midfielder/forward, with SANFL club West Adelaide rating him so highly it purchased him from his zoned team, Sturt, when he was 15. Dougall tested with one AFL club in April and another three clubs last week, two of them based in Victoria. He stands only 172cm but is powerfully built, skilled and quick, having run 2.85 seconds for the 20m sprint.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/four-clubs-go-to-bat-for-sa-cricketer
Too short, no Thank you, number of players making it at that height is far from prolific :shh
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ffs get Sam Reid and send chaplin to the knackery
Sam Reid's a chf , we've got griff and Mcbean there and astbury to come into the side , we don't need him,. Midfielders is what we need :shh
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ffs get Sam Reid and send chaplin to the knackery
Sam Reid's a chf , we've got griff and Mcbean there and astbury to come into the side , we don't need him,. Midfielders is what we need :shh
God help us if those three ever get on the park together at the one time, will be lucky to get 10 possies between them
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Is Dan Hanneberry contracted??
Should go after him
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ffs get Sam Reid and send chaplin to the knackery
sorry judge but hes almost another hamspud waiting to happen. ffs hes a key fwd and sydney went and got buddy and tippett because sam just hasnt cut it. lot of hype around this bloke but to date theres been very little substance. only thing he has on his side is his age and that is quickly becoming a non factor. could not justify trading for him based on his performances.
personally i think our greatest need is finding a quality kpf. followed by a quality kpd, inside and outside mids are needed but you can generally find decent ones 2nd 3rd rounds.
at pick 11 there will be worthy talls available and even in the 2nd round, after that the eyes will have been picked out of em.
we could have addressed the kpd situation by going after frawley it didnt enter their pea brains because richardson thinks we are all good for talls lol.
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he cannot play key defenders? well
he is not light years ages ahead of chapy?
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Is Dan Hanneberry contracted??
Should go after him
Don't need him either, cost too much, have to sign cotch and martin and Rance They're priorities
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Tigers should be pony up all these players. :lol
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Barrett reckons Malceski to the Suns will be one of the early trades done when the Trade Period begins tomorrow.
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Doggies will try and trade into the top 4 picks to snare Full Forward Patrick McCartin or Ruck/Fwd Peter Wright who are both expected to be gone before the Dogs Pick 5.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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Is Dan Hanneberry contracted??
Should go after him
YEAH HE IS CONTRACTED TILL SEASON 2016 WONT BE GOING ANYWHERE BUDDIES BEST MATE IN SYDNEY KNOW
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Is Dan Hanneberry contracted??
Should go after him
YEAH HE IS CONTRACTED TILL SEASON 2016 WONT BE GOING ANYWHERE BUDDIES BEST MATE IN SYDNEY KNOW
TALKING IN CAPS IS RUDE
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Is Dan Hanneberry contracted??
Should go after him
YEAH HE IS CONTRACTED TILL SEASON 2016 WONT BE GOING ANYWHERE BUDDIES BEST MATE IN SYDNEY KNOW
TALKING IN CAPS IS RUDE
IT HELPS GET THE POINT ACROSS. AS DOES THE MULTIPLE USE OF ?
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Be happy with Sam Blease for a 5th round draft pick also or delisted free agent.
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North Melbourne has lodged an official offer for restricted free agent Shaun Higgins on Friday morning, with the utility hopeful of being released by the Western Bulldogs by the end of the day. The Western Bulldogs now have 72 hours to match the Kangaroos' offer, but AFL.com.au understands they are unlikely to block Higgins' move to Arden Street.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-03/roos-file-offer-for-higgins
Carlton may need a third party to lure GWS swingman Kristian Jaksch to Visy Park. The Blues are frantically trying to find a way to get Jaksch, who is keen on joining them, but don’t have the draft picks that would make the move straight-forward. Carlton doesn’t want to part with pick No.6 and concedes its second-round selection (No.26) isn’t enough to satisfy the Giants, creating the need for outside parties.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/jarrad-waite-joins-north-melbourne-as-free-agent-roos-make-offer-to-shaun-higgins/story-fnect155-1227078234033
Ex-Dee Sam Blease now on Trade Radio, saying he was frustrated by Melbourne's game-plan this year and he's been training hard to work on his deficiencies. Blease adds that Melbourne are an outstanding club and Paul Roos is an outstanding coach but he just didn't fit in. "I've had a few little enquiries from clubs, my manager is dealing with them - a couple (clubs) in Melbourne, we'll see how it pans out."
Despite speculation, Sam Blease is not going to Carlton. Collingwood and Richmond are unlikely.
Herald-Sun saying Geelong and Melbourne have reportedly agreed to Pick 33 in exchange for Mitch Clark, Melbourne will then on trade Pick 33 to Collingwood for Heritier Lumumba.
Another rumour says St Kilda, Geelong and Melbourne could engage in a three-way deal that could see Taylor Hunt at St Kilda and Mitch Clark at Geelong with a pick sent to Melbourne from the Saints.
Trade Radio understands that Kane Lucas may form part of a trade to the Western Bulldogs as part of the Blues securing Bulldogs pair Liam Jones and Jason Tutt.
However, the Herald-Sun believes Carlton is expected to secure Western Bulldogs forward Liam Jones soon after the trade period opens on Monday. Jones has agreed to terms with the Blues and both clubs are believed to be satisfied pick No.43 is a sufficient swap. Bulldog Jason Tutt is also expected to get to the Blues in exchange for Carlton’s fourth round pick, No.62.
Essendon have rejected Port Adelaide's offer of Pick 16 for Paddy Ryder. Port Adelaide are prepared to offer up 23-year old Victorian, Andrew Moore as a sweetner along with pick 16 to get the deal for Essendon's Paddy Ryder, done.
Leroy Jetta could revive his career at GWS reports SEN. The small midfielder has spoken to the Giants in recent days.
Gold Coast Suns are interested in Hawthorn's Mitch Hallahan according to Trade Radio.
Collingwood have reportedly inquired with North Melbourne about the trade status of Aaron Mullett according to ABC Grandstand.
Melbourne, Brisbane and Collinwood could engage in a three-way deal with significant interest from the Dees for contracted key defender, Daniel Merrett. Brisbane are keen on securing Dayne Beams in a trade, however pick four, which will become pick five does not sit well with the Pies.
Essendon and the Western Bulldogs are believed to have emerged as the frontrunners for Tim Membrey's signature according to the AFL Website.
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Higgins being offered around 400k x 4 years at Roos.
Dogs almost no chance to match it. Already looking at options to trade the compo pick.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/jarrad-waite-joins-north-melbourne-as-free-agent-roos-make-offer-to-shaun-higgins/story-fnect155-1227078234033
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Wouldnt be paying that for that length of time
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ouch
Surely they are salary cap squeezed with Waite and Higgins
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ouch
Surely they are salary cap squeezed with Waite and Higgins
and being norf they'd have to offer even more than other clubs because nobody wants to play for them. They should be investigated if they sign Greenwood too
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Didn't Hawks get pick around 20 for Buddy not to mention they also lost Ellis who is a nothing player really but don't they add all the players together and give you one pick? How to Dogs get away with pick 26(?). :lol
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Didn't Hawks get pick around 20 for Buddy not to mention they also lost Ellis who is a nothing player really but don't they add all the players together and give you one pick? How to Dogs get away with pick 26(?). :lol
Yes
Goddard 12ish also. Gee the afl are a bunch of morons. They need to ditch the compo all together complete and utter waste of time and unfair
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If they ditch it now its harsh on Richmond
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the problem with dumping the compensation is that the workings of free agency seems to be generally robbing the bottom sides to favour the better sides, so getting rid of compo would further disadvantage bottom sides
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They need to rejig the draft to indirectly compensate free agency.
Why do teams who are having a serious crack at a premiership need any first round picks in the first place?? If you finish top 4 you shouldnt get a first rounder.
That way teams finish 5th to 18th get a quicker drink too.
18th - 1
17th - 2
16th - 3
15th - 4
14th - 5
13th - 6
12th - 7
11th - 8
10th - 9
9th- 10
8th - 11
7th - 12
6th - 13
5th - 14
18th - 15
17th - 16
16th - 18
15th - 19
14th - 20
13th - 21
12th - 22
11th - 23
10th - 24
9th- 25
8th - 26
7th - 27
6th - 28
5th - 29
4th - 30
3rd - 31
2nd - 32
1st 33
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They need to rejig the draft to indirectly compensate free agency.
Why do teams who are having a serious crack at a premiership need any first round picks in the first place?? If you finish top 4 you shouldnt get a first rounder.
That way teams finish 5th to 18th get a quicker drink too.
18th - 1
17th - 2
16th - 3
15th - 4
14th - 5
13th - 6
12th - 7
11th - 8
10th - 9
9th- 10
8th - 11
7th - 12
6th - 13
5th - 14
18th - 15
17th - 16
16th - 18
15th - 19
14th - 20
13th - 21
12th - 22
11th - 23
10th - 24
9th- 25
8th - 26
7th - 27
6th - 28
5th - 29
4th - 30
3rd - 31
2nd - 32
1st 33
I like this!!
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the problem with dumping the compensation is that the workings of free agency seems to be generally robbing the bottom sides to favour the better sides, so getting rid of compo would further disadvantage bottom sides
This is fair to the single club being affected, but it is unfair to the rest of the clubs. Why should we lose a draft position because Frawley leaves Melbourne to go to Hawks? Nothing to do with us. That has always been my beef with compo.
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the system is an absolute abortion. what it does is perpetuate a system that will keep the middle teams under constant downward pressure and the bottom teams will constantly be losing their better talent to the top teams, so u have this little closed circuit effect of the middle and bottom teams cycling around and the top lot parasiting off of them maintaining their position.
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Hawthorn's official website jumped the gun releasing a video of Frawley as a Hawk before it's been officially announced.
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More Pies are leaving Eddieville.
The Herald-Sun's Sam Landsberger is reporting Collingwood's Kyle Martin has retired from AFL Football to head back to Noble Park.
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the problem with dumping the compensation is that the workings of free agency seems to be generally robbing the bottom sides to favour the better sides, so getting rid of compo would further disadvantage bottom sides
This is fair to the single club being affected, but it is unfair to the rest of the clubs. Why should we lose a draft position because Frawley leaves Melbourne to go to Hawks? Nothing to do with us. That has always been my beef with compo.
i can understand where you are coming from, although i feel that the 1-3 drop in the first round is not as disadvantageous as loosing quality players for the bottom clubs is.
I think in the Major league Baseball the free agency compo is draft picks taken from one club and given to another. They have many more draft picks than we do, but something along those lines would be more equitable and would probably make clubs think twice about plundering the vulnerable.
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I hope hawks don't win another flag with this current group just so Frawley doesn't get to experience one. How much are they paying him by the way
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the system is an absolute abortion. what it does is perpetuate a system that will keep the middle teams under constant downward pressure and the bottom teams will constantly be losing their better talent to the top teams, so u have this little closed circuit effect of the middle and bottom teams cycling around and the top lot parasiting off of them maintaining their position.
Agree Owl. :clapping
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The team that receives the player should pay the compensation at a slightly reduced market rate.
This could be set by the AFL but if it keeps going this way the potential premiership teams can get players into their sides by asking their existing players to take less.
Who would want to leave a potential premiership side?
If they don't do something they might as well go back to open slather. ( Bring back Graeme Richmond)
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the system is an absolute abortion. what it does is perpetuate a system that will keep the middle teams under constant downward pressure and the bottom teams will constantly be losing their better talent to the top teams, so u have this little closed circuit effect of the middle and bottom teams cycling around and the top lot parasiting off of them maintaining their position.
Agree Owl. :clapping
I disagree. Its not an abortion at all. Its not Hawthorns fault or Geelongs or Sydneys that they have there clubs at the top for long periods. Weve had 30 years to get our house in order and failed miserably. No one is stopping the likes of Richmond FC targeting good players, no one, our club only has itself to blame, because instead of being in the market for the best players we are only ever the market for pooheap players who no one wants. You cant blame the system for that.
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No-one is saying we aren't to blame for our own failings Ramps, but the current free agency system is only helping the top sides stay at the top and the bottom sides stay at the bottom. And that is detrimental to the long term health of the code, whichever way you look at it.
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Some clubs (us included for a long time) it wouldn't matter if you conscripted the elite guns of the league to them,the culture is/was so crap it probably wouldn't make a scrap of difference
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the system is an absolute abortion. what it does is perpetuate a system that will keep the middle teams under constant downward pressure and the bottom teams will constantly be losing their better talent to the top teams, so u have this little closed circuit effect of the middle and bottom teams cycling around and the top lot parasiting off of them maintaining their position.
Agree Owl. :clapping
Apart from
* during a prolonged period of Richmond being around the bottom - the afl took out the best 100 kids in the country from the draft pool over a six or whatever year period to create two franchises
* some clubs have ten % more money which is a lot in a world of; salary caps/equalisation/non-captalist ideals
* some clubs have millions on scouting country wide system. We are a shambles
You could write a book about the failings of the system. No doubt the tigers have done a good job of pooing it up too
I disagree. Its not an abortion at all. Its not Hawthorns fault or Geelongs or Sydneys that they have there clubs at the top for long periods. Weve had 30 years to get our house in order and failed miserably. No one is stopping the likes of Richmond FC targeting good players, no one, our club only has itself to blame, because instead of being in the market for the best players we are only ever the market for pooheap players who no one wants. You cant blame the system for that.
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Collingwood have declined Brisbane's offer of pick four and Daniel Merrett, with the key defender surplus to Collingwood's needs according to the Pies.
Collingwood have told Brisbane given the amount of interest from other clubs for Merrett, that the Lions should engage a third club to become part of the Beams trade otherwise a deal will not be done.
Collingwood have also declined the offer of the likes of Crisp and Bewick as sweetners to pick four.
Source: 3AW
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Collingwood have declined Brisbane's offer of pick four and Daniel Merrett, with the key defender surplus to Collingwood's needs according to the Pies.
Collingwood have told Brisbane given the amount of interest from other clubs for Merrett, that the Lions should engage a third club to become part of the Beams trade otherwise a deal will not be done.
Collingwood have also declined the offer of the likes of Crisp and Bewick as sweetners to pick four.
Source: 3AW
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Collingwood are idiots, they just declined way overs
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the system is an absolute abortion. what it does is perpetuate a system that will keep the middle teams under constant downward pressure and the bottom teams will constantly be losing their better talent to the top teams, so u have this little closed circuit effect of the middle and bottom teams cycling around and the top lot parasiting off of them maintaining their position.
Then it's working an absolute treat isn't it
Just like any other sports around the globe
I disagree. Its not an abortion at all. Its not Hawthorns fault or Geelongs or Sydneys that they have there clubs at the top for long periods. Weve had 30 years to get our house in order and failed miserably. No one is stopping the likes of Richmond FC targeting good players, no one, our club only has itself to blame, because instead of being in the market for the best players we are only ever the market for pooheap players who no one wants. You cant blame the system for that.
No-one is saying we aren't to blame for our own failings Ramps, but the current free agency system is only helping the top sides stay at the top and the bottom sides stay at the bottom. And that is detrimental to the long term health of the code, whichever way you look at it.
It is flawed Ramps, sports around the world have shown it to be flawed. Smokey is right
MLB is the perfect example small market teams (eg Pittsburgh, Minnesota) draft and develop kids in the their "farm system" and then bring them up to the majors. Develop them some more and then once the player reaches free agency the big market teams make offers that the small market teams cannot match. I've lost count of the number of Pirates players that have been lost because when it comes to free agency they cannot compete. 21 consecutive losing season for the Pirates until the last 2 years when they've made the playoffs which is a credit to them considering their payroll compared to the big sides. However, this year they face losing one of their top 3 players not because they are crap but simple because they cannot afford to pay what others will offer.
Free agency is designed to do 2 things. Firstly it is about ensuring no restraint of trade despite the impact or costs on clubs and secondly and more importantly it's about allowing the strong to remain strong and the weak remain weak
It's a flawed system and what we are seeing is not good for the game
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It's a flawed system and what we are seeing is not good for the game
Cutting through the crap , WP's comment above is exactly where it sits. It needs to fixed and quickly.
Australian Premier League doesn't interest me.
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It's a flawed system and what we are seeing is not good for the game
Cutting through the crap , WP's comment above is exactly where it sits. It needs to fixed and quickly.
Australian Premier League doesn't interest me.
Agree
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With Daniel Gorringe, Jonathan Giles, Luke Lowden and possible Jonathon Griffin all looking for a trade we'd be mad not to pick one of them up IMO.
I'd be very keen on Giles, big body and has shown than he can hold his own in the ruck and F50. Wouldn't mind going for Lowden too, but haven't seen much of him, Gorringe and Griffin.
Presuming/hoping that we play all of Maric, Griffiths and Vickery in the 22 next year that leaves us with only Hampson as a backup for the permanent ruck position. Not a good position to be in.
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I'd be very keen on Giles, big body and has shown than he can hold his own in the ruck and F50. Wouldn't mind going for Lowden too, but haven't seen much of him, Gorringe and Griffin.
Presuming/hoping that we play all of Maric, Griffiths and Vickery in the 22 next year that leaves us with only Hampson as a backup for the permanent ruck position. Not a good position to be in.
I'd do in that order too although I'm not that big on Griffin anymore, was never a huge fan but you are right we'd be silly to not get another ruck over the off season and he's far from the worst we could do, hell he wouldn't even be the worst ruck on our list (Hampson :lol).
Don't forget McBean...not sure if that makes it better or worse
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Don't think McBean has been touted as a FWD/Ruck swingman, despite his height.
Maric is good. Griffiths and Vickery can hold their own as part timers. Hampson is a good tap ruckman but provides absolutely SFA otherwise and should only be a VFL/depth player.
I'd trade Vickery and grab Giles + Lowden if both are attainable. Use Griffiths as a permanent CHF. Jack permanent FF. Giles/Lowden as FWD/ruck swingman. Then you have three more F50 spots, probably one for the Cotchin/Deledio/Martin resting spot, one for Gordon as the mid-size, then probably try to get Jeff Garlett or play Lloyd.
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Melbourne bid pick two on Isaac Heeney, to which Sydney matched with pick 17.
Western Bulldogs bid pick five on Darcy Moore, to which Collingwood matched with pick 8.
North bid pick 15 on Jack Steele, to which GWS matched with pick 23.
Adelaide bid pick 29 on Billy Stretch, to which Melbourne matched with pick 39.
Richmond bid pick 31 on Liam Dawson, to which Brisbane matched with pick 41.
Fremantle bid pick 32 on Jack Hiscox, to which Sydney matched with pick 36.
North Melbourne bid pick 34 on Harris Andrews, to which Brisbane matched with pick 60.
Fremantle bid pick 51 for Zaine Cordy, to which the Western Bulldogs matched with pick 61.
Geelong bid pick 70 on Abe Davis, to which the Swans matched with pick 73.
The remaining three players who didn't receive a bid - Josh Clayton (Brisbane), Alec Waterman (West Coast) and Jeremy Finlayson (GWS) - will join those clubs with their last selection.
*Please note these are the correct draft selections before free agency compensation picks are added to the draft, such as the Bulldogs' pick 26 for Shaun Higgins. All of the picks will be moved down a position once that trade becomes active, as of now.
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Lowden = Lisle
Hawks will make a killing from some sucker club.
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West Coast are closing in on a deal that will see Geelong's Travis Varcoe head west for what's likely to be a second or third round pick.
Fremantle have signalled their interest in out-of-contract Carlton midfielder, Kane Lucas.
St Kilda List Manager Ameet Bains confirms that Sydney Swans forward Tim Membrey has requested a trade to St Kilda. "We will now endeavour to get a trade done," Bains says.
Manager of Kristian Jaksch, Matt Bain says "He's probably got a slight preference to go to Carlton at this stage".
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Just what WC need, a flaky flanker. :lol
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ESSENDON’S asking price to Port Adelaide for disgruntled ruckman-forward Paddy Ryder is Power midfielder Hamish Hartlett.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/suns-tell-power-trade-target-daniel-gorringe-is-required-player/story-fnia3v71-1227081220857?nk=e30fc69f7c63c2900bb3fc37ec65cab7
The land of delusion continues :wallywink :lol
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Lmao
Inb4 they ask for Westoff or Boak as a sweetener.
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ESSENDON’S asking price to Port Adelaide for disgruntled ruckman-forward Paddy Ryder is Power midfielder Hamish Hartlett.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/suns-tell-power-trade-target-daniel-gorringe-is-required-player/story-fnia3v71-1227081220857?nk=e30fc69f7c63c2900bb3fc37ec65cab7
The land of delusion continues :wallywink :lol
Hope the deal doesn't happen and the Paddy use the "out" clause of the Bummers breaching their duty of care
That would be a better result for all of us ;D
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ESSENDON’S asking price to Port Adelaide for disgruntled ruckman-forward Paddy Ryder is Power midfielder Hamish Hartlett.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/suns-tell-power-trade-target-daniel-gorringe-is-required-player/story-fnia3v71-1227081220857?nk=e30fc69f7c63c2900bb3fc37ec65cab7
The land of delusion continues :wallywink :lol
If Paddy didn't play for a club that had a drug culture and messed around with his health like Essendon have that would be a fair trade for a player seeking a trade IMO.
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Now apparently Kavangha (sp?) from Essendon wants out :bow :bow
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Now apparently Kavangha (sp?) from Essendon wants out :bow :bow
hes a poo poo poo
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Now apparently Kavangah (sp?) from Essendon wants out :bow :bow
On a bit of a role at the minute are the Bumblings
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Now apparently Kavangha (sp?) from Essendon wants out :bow :bow
hes a poo poo poo
are three poos good or bad?
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Now apparently Kavangha (sp?) from Essendon wants out :bow :bow
hes a poo poo poo
are three poos good or bad?
Pooty
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Now apparently Kavangha (sp?) from Essendon wants out :bow :bow
hes a poo poo poo
are three poos good or bad?
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3 poos equals a quiver, 4 a movement and 5 constitutes a colonoscopy.
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Yep the players love Hirdy, expect a few over the next few days.
The club is imploding down at Tullamarine, Paul Little is putting out spot fires everywhere.
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But wait there's more (leaving Essendon) ;D.
Ben Howlett not satisfied with Essendon contract offer, could join Blues.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/ben-howlett-not-satisfied-with-essendon-contract-offer-could-join-blues/story-fnahsgl5-1227080671125
Carlton have shown interest in North Melbourne's Liam Anthony.
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Reckon Patrick Dangerfield might just be lured from the Crows camp to Tigerland. The $$$ might just bring him home to Victoria & the big arena & $$$ is what players like nowdays. ;D
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Reckon Patrick Dangerfield might just be lured from the Crows camp to Tigerland. The $$$ might just bring him home to Victoria & the big arena & $$$ is what players like nowdays. ;D
Rumor is Adelaide are sniffing around St.Kildas pick one. There desperately trying to talk him into the club ;)
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Reckon Patrick Dangerfield might just be lured from the Crows camp to Tigerland. The $$$ might just bring him home to Victoria & the big arena & $$$ is what players like nowdays. ;D
Rumor is Adelaide are sniffing around St.Kildas pick one. There desperately trying to talk him into the club ;)
Everyone want Dangerfield but he don't want no wooden spoon to stir his porridge ;D
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3 poos equals a quiver, 4 a movement and 5 constitutes a colonoscopy.
:lol :lol :lol
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Nick Malceski has signed a three-year deal to move to the Gold Coast as an unrestricted free agent.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/nick-malceski-joins-gold-coast-suns-on-threeyear-deal-from-sydney-swans-as-unrestricted-free-agent/story-fndv7pj3-1227081875497
Travis Varcoe could be a surprise addition to North Melbourne’s list by the middle of the month. The Cats’ contracted half-back is weighing up his future after receiving stunning offers from West Coast and the Kangaroos. Varcoe, 26, could only realistically cross to North Melbourne if disgruntled midfielder Levi Greenwood rejects the Roos’ latest offer by opting to take three or four-year deals on better money at either Richmond, Collingwood or the Western Bulldogs. The Eagles, seemingly desperate to add some experience to their group, have promised Varcoe a three-year contract worth $1.2 million to relocate to Perth. A similar offer from North Melbourne may hold more interest for him as he could remain in Victoria.
Jono O’Rourke will this week nominate either Hawthorn or St Kilda as his preferred new club after spending two years with the Giants. Both Victorian clubs have offered him three-year deals.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/kangaroos-emerge-in-the-fight-to-poach-geelongs-travis-varcoe/story-fnca0u4y-1227081828890
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Of course you want to go to the Hawks, Jono. Of course you do.
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Meanwhile we chase another cripple in winderlich
RFC the short cut specialists
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Of course you want to go to the Hawks, Jono. Of course you do.
Fj never rated him and still doesn't :shh
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Nick Malceski has signed a three-year deal to move to the Gold Coast as an unrestricted free agent.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/nick-malceski-joins-gold-coast-suns-on-threeyear-deal-from-sydney-swans-as-unrestricted-free-agent/story-fndv7pj3-1227081875497
Travis Varcoe could be a surprise addition to North Melbourne’s list by the middle of the month. The Cats’ contracted half-back is weighing up his future after receiving stunning offers from West Coast and the Kangaroos. Varcoe, 26, could only realistically cross to North Melbourne if disgruntled midfielder Levi Greenwood rejects the Roos’ latest offer by opting to take three or four-year deals on better money at either Richmond, Collingwood or the Western Bulldogs. The Eagles, seemingly desperate to add some experience to their group, have promised Varcoe a three-year contract worth $1.2 million to relocate to Perth. A similar offer from North Melbourne may hold more interest for him as he could remain in Victoria.
Jono O’Rourke will this week nominate either Hawthorn or St Kilda as his preferred new club after spending two years with the Giants. Both Victorian clubs have offered him three-year deals.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/kangaroos-emerge-in-the-fight-to-poach-geelongs-travis-varcoe/story-fnca0u4y-1227081828890
Not sure Varcoe is worth $400k a year but the media always over estimate what a player might be asking/getting (how would they really know)
What would be a fair price for him at Tigerland? $300k a year? I'd take him for that. Specialized forward with pace and goal sense. Wouldn't be the worst
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Of course you want to go to the Hawks, Jono. Of course you do.
Fj never rated him and still doesn't :shh
I'd take him just knowing c0ckhe;d FJ doesn't rate him!!
From the very little I have seen of him he looks like he will be ok.
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rourke will choose hawthorn the rumour was he was going and gws were going to get sewell for a year bit like hunt from geelong but sewell pulled out stating he wanted to stay in Melbourne.. he wont get a game at the hawks think if I was him id choose the saints and play each week
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O Rourke will become a star at the hawks and then we will scratch our heads about why we didn't recruit a mad Tiger... AGAIN ! :shh
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Does anyone think the deez could trade picks 2 and 3 to gws for players like shiels etc??
And get a couple of ready made mids and continue to shaft other clubs from recruiting whilst maintaining their wretched run of being a poohouse club that stands for nothing?
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Does anyone think the deez could trade picks 2 and 3 to gws for players like shiels etc??
And get a couple of ready made mids and continue to shaft other clubs from recruiting whilst maintaining their wretched run of being a poohouse club that stands for nothing?
More than likely, I think they are set to bring poohouse recruiting to another level
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O Rourke will become a star at the hawks and then we will scratch our heads about why we didn't recruit a mad Tiger... AGAIN ! :shh
#20 yoa
pick #2
very little chance he wont be a gun
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all in all we are not going to do anything lets me honest we don't have much in regards to trade bait..... there a lot of blokes in our team that wouldn't get a game in at least 12 afl teams and that's does say something...
garlett had issues and so does robinson but they are players who are still 24/25 and would offer more then winderlich who will give us what 1 or 2 years its pointless.. Melbourne seem to be able to attract players I don't no why vince was a pretty fair effort to pull off he had issues know in Melbourne you don't hear of him. Tyson Richmond wanted him and he choose Melbourne on what grounds I don't no... harry o wants to go to Melbourne hed be quicker then our chb chapplin .....
at the end of the day as long as we trade duds and get a decent player then im happy but don't trade draft picks for average players :thumbsup
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harry o wants to go to Melbourne hed be quicker then our chb chapplin .....
So would every other HBF in the league, no point comparing him to Chaplin or any other CHB really
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From The Age:
Carlton's Jeff Garlett has requested a trade to Melbourne.
Adelaide are believed to have interest in Bulldogs Key Forward Liam Jones despite Jones announcing his club of preference is Carlton.
Carlton are looking at trading Pick 7 for Giants swingman Kristian Jaksch and the Giants Pick 18
Sydney's Tim Membrey should get to St.Kilda for a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Adelaide and Essendon have shown the most interest in Giants ruckman Jon Giles.
http://www.theage.com.au
From Damien Barrett on Trade Radio:
Someone Collingwood is very keen on, is the possibility of GWS_Giants Adam Treloar being part of the Beams deal
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Adelaide and Essendon have shown the most interest in Giants ruckman Jon Giles.
Hope we are in there
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Adelaide and Essendon have shown the most interest in Giants ruckman Jon Giles.
Hope we are in there
Straight swap for Hamspud?
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Adelaide and Essendon have shown the most interest in Giants ruckman Jon Giles.
Hope we are in there
Straight swap for Hamspud?
Not this time will push up the asking price if we throw the spud in there
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all in all we are not going to do anything lets me honest we don't have much in regards to trade bait..... there a lot of blokes in our team that wouldn't get a game in at least 12 afl teams and that's does say something...
garlett had issues and so does robinson but they are players who are still 24/25 and would offer more then winderlich who will give us what 1 or 2 years its pointless.. Melbourne seem to be able to attract players I don't no why vince was a pretty fair effort to pull off he had issues know in Melbourne you don't hear of him. Tyson Richmond wanted him and he choose Melbourne on what grounds I don't no... harry o wants to go to Melbourne hed be quicker then our chb chapplin .....
at the end of the day as long as we trade duds and get a decent player then im happy but don't trade draft picks for average players :thumbsup
Vince chose Melb in reply for no 21 draft pick Tyson shoes Melb for the no 2 draft pick. Get with the program brudder ::)
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Tyson would chop off his pinky to play for Richmond, don't worry about that :shh
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Tyson would chop off his pinky to play for Richmond, don't worry about that :shh
He already had to chop off his dick to play with Melbourne.
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Lol :lol
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and he's still more of a man than the rest of their playing list
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all in all we are not going to do anything lets me honest we don't have much in regards to trade bait..... there a lot of blokes in our team that wouldn't get a game in at least 12 afl teams and that's does say something...
garlett had issues and so does robinson but they are players who are still 24/25 and would offer more then winderlich who will give us what 1 or 2 years its pointless.. Melbourne seem to be able to attract players I don't no why vince was a pretty fair effort to pull off he had issues know in Melbourne you don't hear of him. Tyson Richmond wanted him and he choose Melbourne on what grounds I don't no... harry o wants to go to Melbourne hed be quicker then our chb chapplin .....
at the end of the day as long as we trade duds and get a decent player then im happy but don't trade draft picks for average players :thumbsup
Vince chose Melb in reply for no 21 draft pick Tyson shoes Melb for the no 2 draft pick. Get with the program brudder ::)
hmm vince went for pick 23, but when you have pick 26 as well which is going on a f/s pick in viney who nwas easily a top 10 pick then you can afford to pay 23 for vince.
dom tyson was a great trade pick 2, 20 and 72 was given up for tyson and pick 9 which they used to get christian salem.
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all in all we are not going to do anything lets me honest we don't have much in regards to trade bait..... there a lot of blokes in our team that wouldn't get a game in at least 12 afl teams and that's does say something...
garlett had issues and so does robinson but they are players who are still 24/25 and would offer more then winderlich who will give us what 1 or 2 years its pointless.. Melbourne seem to be able to attract players I don't no why vince was a pretty fair effort to pull off he had issues know in Melbourne you don't hear of him. Tyson Richmond wanted him and he choose Melbourne on what grounds I don't no... harry o wants to go to Melbourne hed be quicker then our chb chapplin .....
at the end of the day as long as we trade duds and get a decent player then im happy but don't trade draft picks for average players :thumbsup
Vince chose Melb in reply for no 21 draft pick Tyson shoes Melb for the no 2 draft pick. Get with the program brudder ::)
hmm vince went for pick 23, but when you have pick 26 as well which is going on a f/s pick in viney who nwas easily a top 10 pick then you can afford to pay 23 for vince.
dom tyson was a great trade pick 2, 20 and 72 was given up for tyson and pick 9 which they used to get christian salem.
thats a lot of players for Melbourne to ruin
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GWS youngster and former No. 2 pick Jono O’Rourke has nominated Hawthorn as his preferred destination over St Kilda.
Young Bomber Elliott Kavanagh wants to be released from the final year of his contract and is seeking a fresh start at a rival club.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/elliott-kavanagh-joins-paddy-ryder-jason-winderlich-in-asking-for-trade-from-essendon/story-e6frf3e3-1227083071279
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/former-no-2-draft-pick-jono-orourke-requests-trade-from-gws-giants-to-hawthorn/story-e6frf3e3-1227083062062
Giants swingman Kristian Jaksch looks unlikely to get to Carlton with talks between the Blues and Giants grinding to a halt. The door has opened for St Kilda and another Victorian club to ramp up negotiations with GWS, which has not made any progress in talks with Carlton.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/362829870557914
The Hawks and Giants will meet on Wednesday to start working through a deal for O'Rourke, with Hawthorn's first-round draft pick, No.19, available. Carlton has been looking at a swap involving Hawthorn in which the Blues would receive Kristian Jaksch, Hawthorn's pick 19 and the Giants' pick 21, giving up picks 7 and 28.
Travis Varcoe could become a Collingwood player, by becoming the missing link in a three-way trade with Melbourne and Geelong involving Heritier Lumumba and Mitch Clark.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/varcoe-may-join-collingwood-in-threeway-deal-20141007-10rld6.html
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Collingwood are going nowhere. Derek Hine Is a fat idiot
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Carlton and the Western Bulldogs have had discussions about a potential trade involving Brownlow medallist Adam Cooney.
Carlton would gain Liam Jones, Cooney and the Bulldogs' third-round pick, 45. The Dogs are determined to move as high up the draft order as possible, and would receive Carlton's pick 28 in return.
The Blues have alternatively been looking at a three-club trade in which Carlton would receive Kristian Jaksch, Hawthorn's pick 19 and the Giants' pick 21, giving up picks 7 and 28 to GWS.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-dogs-consider-adam-cooney-trade-20141007-10rlob.html
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ESSENDON is trying to lure Carlton-bound swingman Kristian Jaksch to their club despite his determination to get to Visy Park.
The 19-year-old Greater Western Sydney key position player’s first preference is to get to the Blues ahead of St Kilda, but the Dons are determined to muscle into the trade.
But Jaksch is so far refusing to talk to Essendon, hopeful Carlton can get a deal done in coming days.
Essendon is on the nose given rival players do not want to play at a club with such uncertainty around its coach and prospects of fielding a full team in 2015.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/kristian-jaksch-is-hot-property-in-trade-week-as-several-clubs-fight-over-his-services/story-fndv8f7j-1227082965525
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And lame arse Richmond continue to do SFA... :help
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I believe the Bulldogs are throwing in a walking frame to sweeten the deal with Carlton on Cooney.
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I am happy we are not doing anything just for the sake of doing something.
Too many years have we traded in average players that just don't help us build sustainable success,
Why pay overs for players that will cost more than their true value or don't want to come to our club
I expect a good showing in the draft and half these so called stars will be delisted by their clubs and you can pick them up for nothing.
A very good sign IMHO is no players have put their hand up to leave the club which shows to me that the management is improving and maybe the culture.
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I am happy we are not doing anything just for the sake of doing something.
Too many years have we traded in average players that just don't help us build sustainable success,
Why pay overs for players that will cost more than their true value or don't want to come to our club
I expect a good showing in the draft and half these so called stars will be delisted by their clubs and you can pick them up for nothing.
A very good sign IMHO is no players have put their hand up to leave the club which shows to me that the management is improving and maybe the culture.
Good post. The reality is that we should wait until there is someone really good like a Dangerfield and really try to step change with quality.
I'm not against a Winderlich if it costs us nothing providing we are adding a minimum of 4-6 young players through the National or Rookie Draft.
Rome wasn't built in a day and neither is the Tigers list ;D
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I believe the Bulldogs are throwing in a walking frame to sweeten the deal with Carlton on Cooney.
If they throw in a second one for Mick, that would get it done.
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Lol Carlton
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I think we get caught up in this week. You want to hear your club moving and chasing big name players.
I would be far more upset if we were going down the North path. Big money on inconsistent players is a huge gamble, they already have heightened expectation if/when they lose Levi.
Losing any of Cotch, Martin, Ellis or Rance & gaining Greenwood or Armitage would be just as backwards. We desperately can't afford to go backwards.
Players will come to Richmond. We are an attractive club. Just need to show the world that we are a professional and consistent outfit. Win a final next year & it will be a whole new story, players stay for less and players come to us for unders. ATM we would have to throw silly money around to get people in.
We have players to look forward to watching next year, McBean, Lennon, Pick 12, Donuts, Vlaustin. Winderlich is better than any of the rookie types we have got so far..
We need a huge effort this year & they will come.
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Essendon's fight to retain its players continues to escalate, with Kyle Hardingham the latest to signal he wants to leave, in part because of the toll the current environment has taken on him. Hardingham's management had told coach James Hird soon after the season finished that he wanted out because of a lack of opportunity. He has managed just the eight games in each of the past two seasons.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendons-kyle-hardingham-worn-down-by-supplements-saga-20141008-10rptb.html
Three Cats are now wanting to leave Geelong - Varcoe, Allen Christensen (off to Qld) & rumour has it a third player who is being courted by a Melbourne club.
GEELONG midfielder Allen Christensen is set to seek a trade to a Queensland-based club. Neither Christensen nor Geelong has announced the midfielder's desire to leave the Cattery, but AFL.com.au understands Christensen's manager, Tim Hazell, was in contact with the Brisbane Lions on Tuesday night. Brisbane Lions CEO Greg Swann revealed on Trade Radio his club would be very interested in him.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-08/cat-heads-north
The Lions want "something pretty good" - possibly a pick in the 20s - from GWS for two-time best and fairest Joel Patfull.
http://www.afl.com.au/trade/trade-talk
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Christensen wants out from cats do a deal for him and Varcoe both have speed to burn and talent something we lack in the guts.
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Greenwood is a run of the mill-ish. I doubt they rank him about swallow/ziebell/cCunningham/fathersonGuy/etc.
They got dal Santo who is class and would have been infinitely more valuable to our cause than a grigg on a wig, of in houlis hbf spot.
Waite is better than Chaplin and will be handy.
Meanwhile Richmond has the thump the bum brining in (in recent times); bannfielda, thomas, hampson
Norf came top four and look like having a go
Due to the new franchise sides rchmond would want to do something before ARance/deledio/cotchin get over the hill. Cause its hard to see a flag window after that
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we all must say we need some additional players... the likes of grigg, newman, houli, pattard, thomas, knights are pretty much gone next year...
then there is dea, Gordon, Elton, foley , Arnott, mcdough, McIntosh that all could be gone as well that's 12 players then you also have chaplin, hampson... we certainly need some quality players not fringe players
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Cooney to Carlton hey? :lol
I thought Mick said Carlton needed a rebuild, not a top up.
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Cooney to Carlton hey? :lol
I thought Mick said Carlton needed a rebuild, not a top up.
Malthouse doing everything he can to bring that club down. :clapping
Good to see he still has Richmond blood flowing through him.
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The third Geelong player is Tom Lonergan. SEN saying the Bulldogs are having a "genuine crack" at getting him to the Whitten Oval. The offer is a 3-year deal.
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Allen Christensen has expressed a desire to continue his career elsewhere due to non-football reasons. The club is considering its position in relation to Allen's request.
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2014-10-08/club-statement-on-allen-christensen
Tim Hazell the manager of Allen Christensen has said "I can confirm that Allen has told Geelong he wishes to continue his AFL career elsewhere"
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/363157357191832
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Cooney to Carlton hey? :lol
I thought Mick said Carlton needed a rebuild, not a top up.
Malthouse doing everything he can to bring that club down. :clapping
Good to see he still has Richmond blood flowing through him.
Hi Grubby :)
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the way carlton are going there could be a real chance we could offer them patterd,thomas and even grigg back hahhaha :thumbsup
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Carlton are looking at trading Pick 7 for Giants swingman Kristian Jaksch and the Giants Pick 18
Would be a steal
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Essendon have declared interest in Gold Coast's Daniel Gorringe, despite the ruckman signalling his intentions to move to Port Adelaide.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-08/dons-look-to-gorringe
Nathan Buckley is set to meet running Geelong defender Travis Varcoe in Bali while on holiday as the Pies contemplate recruiting the 26-year-old premiership player.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-08/buckley-set-to-meet-varcoe
Brisbane are prepared to offer Collingwood draft picks No.5 and No.25 in exchange for midfielder Dayne Beams, according to Lions chief executive Greg Swann.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-08/lions-top-two-picks-on-offer-for-beams
Port and Essendon are hatching a devious plan using a loophole in the free agency rules.
Ryder and Essendon mutually part ways and end his contract, he then moves to Port as a Free Agent receiving an end of first round pick compo from the AFL.
Port will then trade pick 17 for a token pick from Essendon.
Bombers will then end up with 2 first round picks for Ryder.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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Port and Essendon are hatching a devious plan using a loophole in the free agency rules.
Ryder and Essendon mutually part ways and end his contract, he then moves to Port as a Free Agent receiving an end of first round pick compo from the AFL.
Port will then trade pick 17 for a token pick from Essendon.
Bombers will then end up with 2 first round picks for Ryder.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
That would start a wave of draft tampering with lots of clubs and players doing this......Not good for the game......
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hmm not so sure.
this will effectively mean he is delisted?
which would mean no compo?
facebook?
facepalm!!
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The bombers are all for what is best for the game good sir
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hmm not so sure.
this will effectively mean he is delisted?
which would mean no compo?
facebook?
facepalm!!
Good point. As soon as his contract is terminated he becomes a delisted player. Players like Frawley were still under contract till October 31 and so could be traded as FAs.
Is this correct WP or others?
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hmm not so sure.
this will effectively mean he is delisted?
which would mean no compo?
facebook?
facepalm!!
Good point. As soon as his contract is terminated he becomes a delisted player. Players like Frawley were still under contract till October 31 and so could be traded as FAs.
Is this correct WP or others?
Nah, same thing happened with Dalsanto last year. The saint released him from his contract one year early and he automatically became a free agent.
WindyDick is trying exactly the same thing to get to us.
The big concern is if Essendon get a compo pick then Port give them a second first round token pick it has to de value there original compo pick?
I cant see them getting away with it but it is the AFL we're talking adout ::)
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The difference may be dal santo and winderlick was/is under an extension clause of their contract?
would this make any difference?
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Tom Lonergan has been offered $500,000 per season on a three-year deal by the Western Bulldogs.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Tom Lonergan has been offered $500,000 per season on a three-year deal by the Western Bulldogs.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Crikey , cue for the whingers asking where are the Tigers ......again :lol
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hmm not so sure.
this will effectively mean he is delisted?
which would mean no compo?
facebook?
facepalm!!
Not sure the ins and outs of contracts but all free agents that leave don't have contracts for the next year but are still contracted at the time (not sure the date but isn't it late in the year/early the next?). So I think it would work the same no?
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I am happy we are not doing anything just for the sake of doing something.
Too many years have we traded in average players that just don't help us build sustainable success,
Why pay overs for players that will cost more than their true value or don't want to come to our club
I expect a good showing in the draft and half these so called stars will be delisted by their clubs and you can pick them up for nothing.
A very good sign IMHO is no players have put their hand up to leave the club which shows to me that the management is improving and maybe the culture.
Good post, and I hope the club is looking at the potential of getting 2 picks inside the top 20. To upgrade from pick 30 to 20 you'd have to give up something half decent, but can you imagine if we did it this year and got ourselves a Dunstan, who as it turns out is better than half decent.
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Carlton are looking at trading Pick 7 for Giants swingman Kristian Jaksch and the Giants Pick 18
Would be a steal
agree. basically two for one. bit like the tyson salem deal melbourne did. think about it jaksch is a top 12??? pick anyway just 5 spots removed from 7 and they get pick 18 which should give em a crack at a good at least to very good player.if you need to build good quality depth this is the way to goat times.
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Hawthorn backup tall Sam Grimley has asked the Hawks to explore a trade for him after a brilliant VFL season without a senior game. The 23-year-old kicked the most goals in the VFL this year (45) with hauls of seven and six entering the finals for Box Hill. But the Jim ‘Frosty’ Miller medallist could not add to his senior tally of games at Hawthorn after three games last year. His manager Ben Williams told the Herald Sun on Wednesday he had alerted Hawthorn that Grimley wanted more opportunities. Grimley is contracted for next year so Hawthorn would receive compensation if a trade was struck.
Melbourne will get GWS defender Sam Frost, with GWS and the Demons working on a trade for the younger brother of Collingwood’s Jack Frost. GWS is asking for Melbourne’s second pick and while the Demons are reluctant a deal will eventually be brokered.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sam-grimley-seeks-trade-from-hawthorn-for-greater-afl-opportunities-elsewhere/story-fndv8os9-1227084283712
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Let's see if we make a play for Grimley
I have never watched him play but we desperately need a back up ruckman let's be honest here
Sign him up ASAP
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Let's see if we make a play for Grimley
I have never watched him play but we desperately need a back up ruckman let's be honest here
Sign him up ASAP
I agree with 100% that we desperately need a back up Ruckman but the problem with all the Ruckman that are currently looking for trades (Giles, Goriange, Grimley ect) is than none of them want to go to another club to be a "Back Up" Ruckman.
All these guys are leaving to either get more game time or become the #1 Ruckman at the new club.
Unfortunately whole we have Maric it's going to be very hard to entice any out of contract Ruckman to join us.
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Hmmm interesting. Could be worth a look.
Has played 36 VFL games for 86 goals in the last two years.
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Let's see if we make a play for Grimley
I have never watched him play but we desperately need a back up ruckman let's be honest here
Sign him up ASAP
I agree with 100% that we desperately need a back up Ruckman but the problem with all the Ruckman that are currently looking for trades (Giles, Goriange, Grimley ect) is than none of them want to go to another club to be a "Back Up" Ruckman.
All these guys are leaving to either get more game time or become the #1 Ruckman at the new club.
Unfortunately whole we have Maric it's going to be very hard to entice any out of contract Ruckman to join us.
exactly.
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Has there been an explanation on the Frawley pick 3 compo yet?
I thought the compensation was linked to the new contract, but how does that compare to Buddy on his $1m per year for eight or whatsoever years with the Hawks only getting pick 18 or 19 or whatever it was?
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Has there been an explanation on the Frawley pick 3 compo yet?
I thought the compensation was linked to the new contract, but how does that compare to Buddy on his $1m per year for eight or whatsoever years with the Hawks only getting pick 18 or 19 or whatever it was?
The afl refuses to share the 'scheme' they use to work it out, with the public apparently
White worth nothing hmmm
IMO Vlad just puts his fingers in his bum and sniffs it and comes up with a numberhe thinks is good. Doubt kit's note scientific than that
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Has there been an explanation on the Frawley pick 3 compo yet?
I thought the compensation was linked to the new contract, but how does that compare to Buddy on his $1m per year for eight or whatsoever years with the Hawks only getting pick 18 or 19 or whatever it was?
Yes it is based on the FA contract with the new club ($ value and length). They then decide what round and it then falls immediately after the previous clubs pick in that round.
Compo for buddy was a first round draft pick, but Hawks being premiers 1st rd pick was 18, next pick in round one after that was 19
Because the dees are crap the Frawley compo is pick 3 because their first round pick is 2, first pick after their 1st round is 3.
Same compo has been applied but where a club sits on the ladder is the thing that influences it more
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How come whites worth nothing. In comparison especiy with the last round of free agents
Richmond not crap enough?
I can't find that button on my calculator
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:lol
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My ambition to get O'Rourke to Tigers is officially over. He has been traded to the Hawks.
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Has there been an explanation on the Frawley pick 3 compo yet?
I thought the compensation was linked to the new contract, but how does that compare to Buddy on his $1m per year for eight or whatsoever years with the Hawks only getting pick 18 or 19 or whatever it was?
Yes it is based on the FA contract with the new club ($ value and length). They then decide what round and it then falls immediately after the previous clubs pick in that round.
Compo for buddy was a first round draft pick, but Hawks being premiers 1st rd pick was 18, next pick in round one after that was 19
Because the dees are crap the Frawley compo is pick 3 because their first round pick is 2, first pick after their 1st round is 3.
Same compo has been applied but where a club sits on the ladder is the thing that influences it more
Ahhh OK Thanks :thumbsup
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Paddy Ryder will not become a “free agent” in a contentious deal between the Bombers and Power.
The AFL today has blocked a plan that would have had:
ESSENDON rip up Ryder’s contract — that still has two years to run — and reclassify him as a free agent
ESSENDON gain a first-round compensation pick (No. 21) for losing Ryder as a “free agent”.
PORT ADELAIDE gain Ryder and hand over its first-round draft pick (No. 17) to the Bombers in return for two late-order draft picks.
ESSENDON finish up with draft picks 17, 20 and 21.
It is understood rival AFL clubs complained about the deal that effectively rewrote free agency.
Port officials today reacted to the AFL decision saying: “We go back to the drawing board to find a trade that satisfies everyone.”
Overnight, the Power and Ryder’s management moved to trigger a breach of contract clause against Essendon.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-ryders-attempted-free-agency-move-from-essendon-has-been-blocked-by-the-afl/story-fndv8gad-1227084258054
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Graham Wright has said on Trade Radio that a couple of clubs have approached the Hawks about a potential trade for Ryan Schoenmakers.
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Cheats.
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I really hope the Bombers get nothing for Ryder and they are forced to delist him for breach of contract.
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How come whites worth nothing. In comparison especiy with the last round of free agents
Richmond not crap enough?
I can't find that button on my calculator
Again it comes down to the contract at new club. Will the player end up in the top 10 paid players at his new club? Answer no? That Impacts on compo as well, as does what he was on in final year at previous club
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Just on SEN:
Bulldogs captain Ryan Griffen wants out and wants to be traded to Greater Western Sydney.
:o
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Just on SEN:
Bulldogs captain Ryan Griffen wants out and wants to be traded to Greater Western Sydney.
:o
WOW
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Just on SEN:
Bulldogs captain Ryan Griffen wants out and wants to be traded to Greater Western Sydney.
:o
Breaking News: Western Bulldogs midfielder Ryan Griffen has requested a trade to the GIANTS. A statement from the GIANTS to come shortly.
https://twitter.com/GWS_Giants
The Western Bulldogs can confirm that Ryan Griffen’s management have communicated to the Club that Ryan wants to pursue a trade.
The Western Bulldogs position is that Ryan is a contracted player and he will be required to fulfil his contract in 2015.
https://twitter.com/westernbulldogs
A statement has been released from Griffen's management, Elite Sports Properties.
"After ongoing consultation with the Western Bulldogs, his family and management, Ryan Griffen has requested a trade to the Greater Western Sydney GIANTS.
"At 28, Ryan feels a fresh start outside Melbourne after 202 games with the Western Bulldogs is the right thing for him.
"The decision has not come lightly and has been extremely difficult for all involved.
"It has been made with the intent that the Western Bulldogs are duly compensated for granting Ryan a release from the final year of his contract.
"ESP or Ryan will not be available for comment until the matter is resolved."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-09/live-trade-period-day-four-plus-free-agency-latest
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Barrett on Trade Radio:
Joel Patfull likely to go to GWS for pick 21.
Then another deal to potentially happen, Carlton to get Kristian Jaksch, Mark Wiley & pick 19 in exchange for pick 7.
Picks 4 & 7 will then be used to lure Ryan Griffen away from the Bulldogs by the GWS.
https://twitter.com/traderadio/with_replies
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Eat
poo
Doggies
How come whites worth nothing. In comparison especiy with the last round of free agents
Richmond not crap enough?
I can't find that button on my calculator
Again it comes down to the contract at new club. Will the player end up in the top 10 paid players at his new club? Answer no? That Impacts on compo as well, as does what he was on in final year at previous club
im sorry - i know you didnt write the rules - but its all a bit silly
top ten paided? franklin is ten million chachingas [over x yr].
and yet pick 30 or whatever
frawley 600k [p/year] or whatever it is, and pick 3.
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Dogs could do some damage with picks 4,6 & 7. But hahahaha at the captain leaving. :lol :lol
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McCartney wants to build his own team - senior players sooking it up.
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McCartney wants to build his own team - senior players sooking it up.
If they draft well and pick up a good KPF it could set them up for a good decade.
Some short term pain in letting their capital go but big returns if they use the draft picks successfully.
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McCartney wants to build his own team - senior players sooking it up.
If they draft well and pick up a good KPF it could set them up for a good decade.
Some short term pain in letting their capital go but big returns if they use the draft picks successfully.
Absolutely.....no half-arsed rebuilds there.
In other news - Carlton have just practically given away Jeff Garlett and pick 83 to Melbourne for picks 61 & 79.....claw & big note will no doubt be rapt....
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If only we could ship off Newy and Lids like that
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McCartney wants to build his own team - senior players sooking it up.
Yep big time it would seem
Better off without them, tail can't wag the dog
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Might pay off bigtime for them in the long run, 3 ripper picks and decent draft for one decent player...poo ill take that...
well 2 technically. I spose they are in a bit of a rebuild. Feel a bit sorry for the dogs, they are always pushing poo uphill, never complain much like Melbourne, never get much press good or bad.
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So Doggies would have picks 4, 6 and 7 and in need of a tall forward
Wonder if they would do picks 6 and 7 for Vickery and 12?
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So Doggies would have picks 4, 6 and 7 and in need of a tall forward
Wonder if they would do picks 6 and 7 for Vickery and 12?
I'll slip them a powerful hallucinogen. Then we might have a chance of that being accepted......
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FSN saying Jeremy Cameron was taken on a tour of Adelaide's facilities. Jeez....
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Eat
poo
Doggies
How come whites worth nothing. In comparison especiy with the last round of free agents
Richmond not crap enough?
I can't find that button on my calculator
Again it comes down to the contract at new club. Will the player end up in the top 10 paid players at his new club? Answer no? That Impacts on compo as well, as does what he was on in final year at previous club
im sorry - i know you didnt write the rules - but its all a bit silly
top ten paided? franklin is ten million chachingas [over x yr].
and yet pick 30 or whatever
frawley 600k [p/year] or whatever it is, and pick 3.
lol griffen is 28 and if he feels the same way in 12mnths time
in all likelyhood he will walk as a f/a next yr.
geez if the griffen deal goes as they say and jones goes to carlton the dogs will end up with 4, 6, 7, 26, 27, 28. for the loss of griffen, higgins, and jones. it could be in three yrs time the dogs are the club in position to challenge gws and gcs for ultimate supremacy.
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Not ideal to lose ze captain regardless of what you get in return
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Eat
poo
Doggies
How come whites worth nothing. In comparison especiy with the last round of free agents
Richmond not crap enough?
I can't find that button on my calculator
Again it comes down to the contract at new club. Will the player end up in the top 10 paid players at his new club? Answer no? That Impacts on compo as well, as does what he was on in final year at previous club
im sorry - i know you didnt write the rules - but its all a bit silly
top ten paided? franklin is ten million chachingas [over x yr].
and yet pick 30 or whatever
frawley 600k [p/year] or whatever it is, and pick 3.
lol griffen is 28 and if he feels the same way in 12mnths time
in all likelyhood he will walk as a f/a next yr.
geez if the griffen deal goes as they say and jones goes to carlton the dogs will end up with 4, 6, 7, 26, 27, 28. for the loss of griffen, higgins, and jones. it could be in three yrs time the dogs are the club in position to challenge gws and gcs for ultimate supremacy.
Maybe 5 years time. Maybe not. Statistics say only 3 of those 6 picks will become either average or elite players.
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but...
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Theyhave a decent young list, but so do a lot of people. I'm sceptical a couple more kids will heap them equal gws/GCin ffuture seasons.
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Not ideal to lose ze captain regardless of what you get in return
in all honesty its the sort of deal i would jump at if deledio wanted out but only if he wanted out. brett is also 28 next yr and 4 and 7 would be ideal compensation if he wanted to go. would only get a 2nd rounder or something silly like that in f/a.
have a look at what sides just below us and around us are doing. all things being equal sooner or later they will go past us especially if things stay the same for another yr or two.
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Claw of course you would jump at it..I sometimes think you are content with the 'eternal rebuild"
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but...
the thinking is they will give up pick 4 and use pick 7 they get from carlton for jaksch. they have jack steele already and paid unders for him with 23, they will still have 19, 20 and 40.
they dont have a worry about kids their list is full of em they need quality mature players and griffen is exactly thaqt.
what would you want for deledio in the same circumstances.
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but..
the thinking is they will give up pick 4 and use pick 7 they get from carlton for jaksch. they have jack steele already and paid unders for him with 23, they will still have 19, 20 and 40.
they dont have a worry about kids their list is full of em they need quality mature players and griffen is exactly thaqt.
what would you want for deledio in the same circumstances.
pick 1.
Deledio > Griffen
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but...
the thinking is they will give up pick 4 and use pick 7 they get from carlton for jaksch. they have jack steele already and paid unders for him with 23, they will still have 19, 20 and 40.
they dont have a worry about kids their list is full of em they need quality mature players and griffen is exactly thaqt.
what would you want for deledio in the same circumstances.
pick 4 plus 2 players, a shiel type and Tomlinson/jaksch
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Not ideal to lose ze captain regardless of what you get in return
in all honesty its the sort of deal i would jump at if deledio wanted out but only if he wanted out. brett is also 28 next yr and 4 and 7 would be ideal compensation if he wanted to go. would only get a 2nd rounder or something silly like that in f/a.
have a look at what sides just below us and around us are doing. all things being equal sooner or later they will go past us especially if things stay the same for another yr or two.
And by the time 4 and 7 come good
(Maybe)...
Gws and GC are extracting the urine. And cotchin and rance are hanging up the boots
You need something to build around, given the nature of the beast. I would not want to offloading any of aRance/cotchin\lids\martin unless its was a pretty top shelf offer
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but..
the thinking is they will give up pick 4 and use pick 7 they get from carlton for jaksch. they have jack steele already and paid unders for him with 23, they will still have 19, 20 and 40.
they dont have a worry about kids their list is full of em they need quality mature players and griffen is exactly thaqt.
what would you want for deledio in the same circumstances.
pick 1.
Deledio > Griffen
doggies supporters would argue that very strongly. me id prefer 4 and 7 to pick 1 especially when the top 5 or so are usually elite. one of petracca, brayshaw mccartin or wright is what the dogs would get according to most pundits if they had pick 4. you then get 7 to have anothe crack at it.
i suppose it depends on how you rate pick 1 and the gap between 1 and 4.
Claw of course you would jump at it..I sometimes think you are content with the 'eternal rebuild"
mate no matter what you think all clubs to differing degrees are in eternal rebuild.
of course i want to build and yes atm go hard at it, simply because i have not for one minute thought we have come close to completing a build. when we do i will then be content with maintaining the list and doing whats needed to do that.
4 or 5 nd picks would be the ave for all clubs with varying amounts of rookies and trades. 7 8 or 9 new faces for miost cluns would not be out of the ordibnary.
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most doggies support would prefer to keep ze captain
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but...
the thinking is they will give up pick 4 and use pick 7 they get from carlton for jaksch. they have jack steele already and paid unders for him with 23, they will still have 19, 20 and 40.
they dont have a worry about kids their list is full of em they need quality mature players and griffen is exactly thaqt.
what would you want for deledio in the same circumstances.
pick 4 plus 2 players, a shiel type and Tomlinson/jaksch
so in effect your asking for more than 4 and 7 for deledio for similarly performed players in griffen and deledio.would not think we would get pick 4 and two very high calibre players.
given the hypothetical circumstance id be over the moon with picks 4 and 7 for deledio given we could end up with little if he went into f/a.
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Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
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i dunno how all the bullpoo works - but hes contracted until 2017 October, so i dont think we'll have him walk out next year realistically
id still be wanting something closer to the judd deal. going by the last game him and rance are the only ones that can play
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Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
That would be awesome. What the hell have we got to trade though? As much of a gimp as Vickery is, he could fetch that sort of value but apparently we're not trading him. Can't see how else we get that done.
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most doggies support would prefer to keep ze captain
im sure they dont no one has said they do.
but what do you think they would prefer given what griffen has said.
picks 4 and 7 this yr or concievably a f/a pick maybe 2nd rounder at the end of next yr when he becomes a f/a.
personally i think it an ideal time for the wb to do a trade like this.
3 to 5 yrs before they could truly challenge for a flag, in 3 to 5 yrs time picks 4 6 and 7 coming into their prime or griffen at age 32 33 about to retire and past it.
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Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
That would be awesome. What the hell have we got to trade though? As much of a gimp as Vickery is, he could fetch that sort of value but apparently we're not trading him. Can't see how else we get that done.
agree that would be great. but i also cant see how. can only be a contracted player being offered up.
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Theres no way they'll give the doggies 2 top 10 picks for a 28 y/o with a chronic back. Griff is a jet at his best but...
the thinking is they will give up pick 4 and use pick 7 they get from carlton for jaksch. they have jack steele already and paid unders for him with 23, they will still have 19, 20 and 40.
they dont have a worry about kids their list is full of em they need quality mature players and griffen is exactly thaqt.
what would you want for deledio in the same circumstances.
pick 4 plus 2 players, a shiel type and Tomlinson/jaksch
so in effect your asking for more than 4 and 7 for deledio for similarly performed players in griffen and deledio.would not think we would get pick 4 and two very high calibre players.
given the hypothetical circumstance id be over the moon with picks 4 and 7 for deledio given we could end up with little if he went into f/a.
I reckon that's fair - Shiel is worth around the 10-12 mark - Tomlinson 15-18 - both very good players though so 4 plus those 2 would be fair for Deledio who is worth more than Griff given he doesn't have a crook back and is a year younger
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Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
That would be awesome. What the hell have we got to trade though? As much of a gimp as Vickery is, he could fetch that sort of value but apparently we're not trading him. Can't see how else we get that done.
Conca maybe?
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Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
thank u Geez
most doggies support would prefer to keep ze captain
im sure they dont no one has said they do.
but what do you think they would prefer given what griffen has said.
picks 4 and 7 this yr or concievably a f/a pick maybe 2nd rounder at the end of next yr when he becomes a f/a.
personally i think it an ideal time for the wb to do a trade like this.
3 to 5 yrs before they could truly challenge for a flag, in 3 to 5 yrs time picks 4 6 and 7 coming into their prime or griffen at age 32 33 about to retire and past it.
fair enough
i have not paid much attention what griff has said nor the reaction of doggies fans
Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
That would be awesome. What the hell have we got to trade though? As much of a gimp as Vickery is, he could fetch that sort of value but apparently we're not trading him. Can't see how else we get that done.
Conca maybe?
Ellis is my mail. :lol
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Anthony Hudson just said on SEN that we're trying to get another late 1st round pick.
That would be awesome. What the hell have we got to trade though? As much of a gimp as Vickery is, he could fetch that sort of value but apparently we're not trading him. Can't see how else we get that done.
Conca maybe?
That's who I'd be offering up if not Vickery but you'd think it would be unlikely after Richardson publicly stated more inside mids are a priority.
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conca has shocking skills and is more a liability in the pivot
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Hot word is it's indeed Vickery. Watch this space
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i welcome our new overlord angus hampson :bow
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Wouldn't do Vickery for end of first rounder unless we absolutely 100% know it's gonna be a gun midfielder
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Wouldn't do Vickery for end of first rounder unless we absolutely 100% know it's gonna be a gun midfielder
A gun midfielder who can throw a good jumper punch would be good
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not a good idea to get rid of vickery for a pick in the low 20's because Mr FJ will stuff up as usual.
Claw i respect your peaces but it doesnt matter what late first or second rounders you get until FJ is sacked the only chance we have is top end picks 1-10, where his strike rate is high as most clubs dont stuff them up these days. If anything i would target buldogs pick 4 and they can have vickery and we get their 20 odd pick.
Conca is a very average footballer and lets be honest id take low 20's in the hope we find someone better than him which wont be all that hard
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most doggies support would prefer to keep ze captain
im sure they dont no one has said they do.
but what do you think they would prefer given what griffen has said.
picks 4 and 7 this yr or concievably a f/a pick maybe 2nd rounder at the end of next yr when he becomes a f/a.
personally i think it an ideal time for the wb to do a trade like this.
3 to 5 yrs before they could truly challenge for a flag, in 3 to 5 yrs time picks 4 6 and 7 coming into their prime or griffen at age 32 33 about to retire and past it.
30 'likes'
Lel, that's it, we're cooked for another 5 years. I'm out. Our stuffing captain wants to bail. We're done. So stuffing done.
EDIT: Okay I've sort of calmed down now but not really.
Ryan Griffen is a huge stuffing part of the team. I've always noticed that Libba isn't as good when Griffen isn't there. WE aren't as good when Griffen isn't there. We've finally got this gun midfield team and now our stuffing CAPTAIN wants out? And not to go for premiership glory with Hawthorn or Sydney, but the stuffing Giants? This means he's so unhappy there he's willing to go to a club in a similar if not worse position than us.
I don't know who we trade but it better be stuffing Cameron or bust. stuff it, it doesn't matter. If Griffen goes we're cooked. Seriously. stuff I'm upset. We get no glory for 60 years and have to take our beatings year in, year out, and every time we look good we get cut down one way or another. I'm so over it.
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Josh Mahoney told Trade Radio that the Demons were confident a three-way trade involving the Pies and Cats would eventuate in the coming days. The proposed deal would see Mitch Clark move to Geelong, Travis Varcoe to Collingwood and Heritier Lumumba to Melbourne.
Essendon are interested in Bulldog Adam Cooney according to Jon Ralph in the Herald-Sun. Carlton have ruled out recruiting Cooney.
Take this with a grain of salt. SEN have said Beams deal will be done tomorrow. Dayne Beams for Pick 5 and James Aish.
Allen Christensen has declared he wants to join Brisbane. The Lions will assess how to manage delicate double-barrelled negotiations so they can land both Dayne Beams and Christensen at the Gabba in 2015. The Lions believe they will be able to package up pick five and 25 for Beams, and believe pick 21 from GWS for Joel Patfull will be enough to suffice Geelong for Christensen. Unlike the Suns, Brisbane have the cap space to afford Christensen's $400k p.a. salary.
If Tom Lonergan accepts the Western Bulldogs reported offer of $500,000 a season over 3 years, the Bulldogs will offer Pick 27 to Geelong for the Key Defender according to the Herald Sun.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/allen-christensen-nominates-brisbane-as-preferred-destination-joel-patfull-to-be-traded/story-fndv7pj3-1227085565624
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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Watch us get beaten again next year by the Dogs, Dees, Blues, Pies, Suns and the like, just because they have the balls to pick up some talent in the trade period and off load some of their players to better position themselves to get the best youth. We will pick up another Conca with pick 12 and probably trade our 30 odd pick away for more crap...
This club... :banghead
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Anybody else heard the rumour that we are shopping Lids around?
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In the winderlich deal apparently
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Anybody else heard the rumour that we are shopping Lids around?
Yes
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In the winderlich deal apparently
Talks stalled after Gartlet went to Melbourne.
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Watch us get beaten again next year by the Dogs, Dees, Blues, Pies, Suns and the like, just because they have the balls to pick up some talent in the trade period and off load some of their players to better position themselves to get the best youth. We will pick up another Conca with pick 12 and probably trade our 30 odd pick away for more crap...
This club... :banghead
Well to begin with we were beaten by all of those teams but Carlton this year anyway ;)
Secondly, loosing senior players can send a team backwards in a hurry. In the short term the only side out of all of those that has probably bettered there position for next season is the Suns. Kids do sweet FA to a side for at least 3-4 seasons. What have Carlton done?? Nothing, they have a far worst list than us and have done nothing to improve it.
Melbourne have lost Frawley and gained Gartlet. The loss of an experienced player from the back line leaves them with a massive hole down there, one that can't be fixed short term by a kid.
The bulldogs have lost two senior players in Higgins and Griffen. That's pretty much equivalent to us loosing Cotch and Ellis. How do you think we would fair without those to next season?
At the end of the day short term these clubs are going no where but in saying that we we don't start getting a few later picks right they will all fly past us in 3-4 years time.
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Blues aren't going anywhere, their list has huge deficiencies
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Claw reckons doggies traveling well losing captain/coach 24 hours
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Claw reckons doggies traveling well losing captain/coach 24 hours
nope why i bother with people who read what they like into peoples posts is beyond me.
griffen wants out given he wants out and if they got picks 4 and 7 then long term they would come out smelling like roses.
i did say if they somehow eneded up with 4 6 7 26, 27, 28. with their kids they could be the ones who challenge the gcs gws in 3 to 5 yrs time.
the wb were not that far off where we were this yr another middling team but unlike us they continue to go hard at rebuilding
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Its rats off a sinking boat but romantic it up all you like
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Anybody else heard the rumour that we are shopping Lids around?
Makes sense trading out one of our few players with genuine pace.
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Claw reckons doggies traveling well losing captain/coach 24 hours
nope why i bother with people who read what they like into peoples posts is beyond me.
griffen wants out given he wants out and if they got picks 4 and 7 then long term they would come out smelling like roses.
i did say if they somehow eneded up with 4 6 7 26, 27, 28. with their kids they could be the ones who challenge the gcs gws in 3 to 5 yrs time.
the wb were not that far off where we were this yr another middling team but unlike us they continue to go hard at rebuilding
A have to agree with Claw, you could build a premiership side around those picks, providing A. You don't stuff them up and B. the picks are able to stay on the park long term.
Problem is there 4-6 years away from this core group offering sustained impact to the club.
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Watch us get beaten again next year by the Dogs, Dees, Blues, Pies, Suns and the like, just because they have the balls to pick up some talent in the trade period and off load some of their players to better position themselves to get the best youth. We will pick up another Conca with pick 12 and probably trade our 30 odd pick away for more crap...
This club... :banghead
Well to begin with we were beaten by all of those teams but Carlton this year anyway ;)
Secondly, loosing senior players can send a team backwards in a hurry. In the short term that he only side out of all of those that has probably bettered there position for next season is the Suns. Kids do sweet FA to a side for at least 3-4 seasons. What have Carlton done?? Nothing, they have a far worst list than us and have done nothing to improve it.
Melbourne have lost Frawley and gained Gartlet. The loss of an experienced player from the back line leaves them with a massive hole down there, one that can't be fixed short term by a kid.
The bulldogs have lost two senior players in Higgins and Griffen. That's pretty much equivalent to us loosing Cotch and Ellis. How do you think we would fair without those to next season?
At the end of the day short term these clubs are going no where but in saying that we we don't start getting a few later picks right they will all fly past us in 3-4 years time.
Please read my message, that's why I said "AGAIN"!!!!
Wait and see!
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Watch us get beaten again next year by the Dogs, Dees, Blues, Pies, Suns and the like, just because they have the balls to pick up some talent in the trade period and off load some of their players to better position themselves to get the best youth. We will pick up another Conca with pick 12 and probably trade our 30 odd pick away for more crap...
This club... :banghead
Well to begin with we were beaten by all of those teams but Carlton this year anyway ;)
Secondly, loosing senior players can send a team backwards in a hurry. In the short term the only side out of all of those that has probably bettered there position for next season is the Suns. Kids do sweet FA to a side for at least 3-4 seasons. What have Carlton done?? Nothing, they have a far worst list than us and have done nothing to improve it.
Melbourne have lost Frawley and gained Gartlet. The loss of an experienced player from the back line leaves them with a massive hole down there, one that can't be fixed short term by a kid.
The bulldogs have lost two senior players in Higgins and Griffen. That's pretty much equivalent to us loosing Cotch and Ellis. How do you think we would fair without those to next season?
At the end of the day short term these clubs are going no where but in saying that we we don't start getting a few later picks right they will all fly past us in 3-4 years time.
losing too many senior players can send sides backwards at a rate of knots. despite the loss of griffen if it happens, hes a player who cant be replaced immediately and will leave a hole and higgins who is an okay type they have plenty enough older types to lead the kids.
imo whengriffen hits f/a stage there is every chance he will go regardless. so it is smart to get the very best that you can now for your club and move on.
the thing about wb is they are know where they are at and are prepared to take a step backwards to hopefully take some big strides fwd in a few yrs.
at richmond we are clinging onto where we are for all we are worth no steps back for us its more like slow strangulation where the air is slowly squeezed out.
im all for missing finalsnext yr and the yr after if it meant a complete and proper rebuild that would enable us to challenge for a flag. we just are not prepared to do this or even acknowledge the need.
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McCartney has been sacked / resigned.
Ryan Griffen to be appointed Captain Coach
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Claw reckons doggies traveling well losing captain/coach 24 hours
nope why i bother with people who read what they like into peoples posts is beyond me.
griffen wants out given he wants out and if they got picks 4 and 7 then long term they would come out smelling like roses.
i did say if they somehow eneded up with 4 6 7 26, 27, 28. with their kids they could be the ones who challenge the gcs gws in 3 to 5 yrs time.
the wb were not that far off where we were this yr another middling team but unlike us they continue to go hard at rebuilding
A have to agree with Claw, you could build a premiership side around those picks, providing A. You don't stuff them up and B. the picks are able to stay on the park long term.
Problem is there 4-6 years away from this core group offering sustained impact to the club.
bontompelli 4, macrae 6, stringer 5, these kids in a short space of time are having an impact already 1 and 2 yrs.. these are the exact sort of picks they could end up with if griffen went.
theirr problem is obviously talls and its this area alone that will hold up their rise. of course they could trade for more talls to hasten the process.
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losing too many senior players can send sides backwards at a rate of knots
Sort of like Lids, Rance and Maric going down roughly together with injury
the thing about wb is they are know where they are at and are prepared to take a step backwards to hopefully take some big strides fwd in a few yrs.
Your talking out of your bum
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Watch us get beaten again next year by the Dogs, Dees, Blues, Pies, Suns and the like, just because they have the balls to pick up some talent in the trade period and off load some of their players to better position themselves to get the best youth. We will pick up another Conca with pick 12 and probably trade our 30 odd pick away for more crap...
This club... :banghead
Well to begin with we were beaten by all of those teams but Carlton this year anyway ;)
Secondly, loosing senior players can send a team backwards in a hurry. In the short term that he only side out of all of those that has probably bettered there position for next season is the Suns. Kids do sweet FA to a side for at least 3-4 seasons. What have Carlton done?? Nothing, they have a far worst list than us and have done nothing to improve it.
Melbourne have lost Frawley and gained Gartlet. The loss of an experienced player from the back line leaves them with a massive hole down there, one that can't be fixed short term by a kid.
The bulldogs have lost two senior players in Higgins and Griffen. That's pretty much equivalent to us loosing Cotch and Ellis. How do you think we would fair without those to next season?
At the end of the day short term these clubs are going no where but in saying that we we don't start getting a few later picks right they will all fly past us in 3-4 years time.
Please read my message, that's why I said "AGAIN"!!!!
Wait and see!
Carlton didn't beat us last year??
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Watch us get beaten again next year by the Dogs, Dees, Blues, Pies, Suns and the like, just because they have the balls to pick up some talent in the trade period and off load some of their players to better position themselves to get the best youth. We will pick up another Conca with pick 12 and probably trade our 30 odd pick away for more crap...
This club... :banghead
Well to begin with we were beaten by all of those teams but Carlton this year anyway ;)
Secondly, loosing senior players can send a team backwards in a hurry. In the short term that he only side out of all of those that has probably bettered there position for next season is the Suns. Kids do sweet FA to a side for at least 3-4 seasons. What have Carlton done?? Nothing, they have a far worst list than us and have done nothing to improve it.
Melbourne have lost Frawley and gained Gartlet. The loss of an experienced player from the back line leaves them with a massive hole down there, one that can't be fixed short term by a kid.
The bulldogs have lost two senior players in Higgins and Griffen. That's pretty much equivalent to us loosing Cotch and Ellis. How do you think we would fair without those to next season?
At the end of the day short term these clubs are going no where but in saying that we we don't start getting a few later picks right they will all fly past us in 3-4 years time.
Please read my message, that's why I said "AGAIN"!!!!
Wait and see!
Carlton didn't beat us last year??
Maybe they had a morale victory?
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all these arguments are for nothing IMHO. the simple truth is we have done nothing to improve our list and our draft picks are not going to deliver anything as they are way too low down the draft order. the club is failing the supporters again to this stage but its always the same, last year they were peddling Hampson as a major get, theyd spent hours and hours and hours researching and planning and the guy cant play for poo. our club is rooted. we have no new players coming in at this stage and our draft picks are crap. there is no short term or medium or even long term planning. Its a bludgers paradise at Punt Road at the moment.
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losing too many senior players can send sides backwards at a rate of knots
Sort of like Lids, Rance and Maric going down roughly together with injury
the thing about wb is they are know where they are at and are prepared to take a step backwards to hopefully take some big strides fwd in a few yrs.
Your talking out of your bum
lids maric and rance were just 3 we are supposed to be a contender lol.
more sense comes out of my arse than your mouth.
minson higgins cooney griffen when would we ever shop players like that around. they know exactly where they are at and clearly are prepared to see things thru unlike the rabble we support.
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all these arguments are for nothing IMHO. the simple truth is we have done nothing to improve our list and our draft picks are not going to deliver anything as they are way too low down the draft order. the club is failing the supporters again to this stage but its always the same, last year they were peddling Hampson as a major get, theyd spent hours and hours and hours researching and planning and the guy cant play for poo. our club is rooted. we have no new players coming in at this stage and our draft picks are crap. there is no short term or medium or even long term planning. Its a bludgers paradise at Punt Road at the moment.
If we has got Gartlett we'd be filling a hole :shh the small forward role. Would've kicked 40 goals next year and propelled us to top 4 :shh BUT NOOOOOOOOO
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minson higgins cooney griffen when would we ever shop players like that around. they know exactly where they are at and clearly are prepared to see things thru unlike the rabble we support.
Talk about supporters seeing other teams in rose coloured glasses, although usually it is their own supporters
Minson 29yo past his useful life
Higgins Injury prone
Cooney Broken down
The only difference between them and us is those three have some trade value where our old players dont; Newman etc etc
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all these arguments are for nothing IMHO. the simple truth is we have done nothing to improve our list and our draft picks are not going to deliver anything as they are way too low down the draft order. the club is failing the supporters again to this stage but its always the same, last year they were peddling Hampson as a major get, theyd spent hours and hours and hours researching and planning and the guy cant play for poo. our club is rooted. we have no new players coming in at this stage and our draft picks are crap. there is no short term or medium or even long term planning. Its a bludgers paradise at Punt Road at the moment.
If we has got Gartlett we'd be filling a hole :shh the small forward role. Would've kicked 40 goals next year and propelled us to top 4 :shh BUT NOOOOOOOOO
Agree should have gone for Gartlett.
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Our small forwards are below par
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Let's see if we make a play for Grimley
I have never watched him play but we desperately need a back up ruckman let's be honest here
Sign him up ASAP
I agree with 100% that we desperately need a back up Ruckman but the problem with all the Ruckman that are currently looking for trades (Giles, Goriange, Grimley ect) is than none of them want to go to another club to be a "Back Up" Ruckman.
All these guys are leaving to either get more game time or become the #1 Ruckman at the new club.
Unfortunately whole we have Maric it's going to be very hard to entice any out of contract Ruckman to join us.
i couldnt disagree more. Every player wants opportunities and lets face it Maric has 1 or 2 years left at the top, assuming no injuries so IMV can easily be groomed as our no 1 ruckman. All Grimley or any of them need to do is look at the NO 2 ruck which last time i checked we dont have one.
Its all about selling the dream so a player comes. Look at hawks and o'rourke. You work hard and you will be in the team its that simple.
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minson higgins cooney griffen when would we ever shop players like that around. they know exactly where they are at and clearly are prepared to see things thru unlike the rabble we support.
Talk about supporters seeing other teams in rose coloured glasses, although usually it is their own supporters
Minson 29yo past his useful life
Higgins Injury prone
Cooney Broken down
The only difference between them and us is those three have some trade value where our old players dont; Newman etc etc
:lol
Claw's consensus.
Anything other clubs do = masterstroke
Anything our club does = disasterstroke
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It gets better
A club going places = Western Bulldogs
2008 3rd
2009 3rd
2010 3rd
2011 10th
2012 15th
2013 15th
2014 14th
A poo club going nowhere = RFC
2008 9th
2009 15th
2010 15th
2011 12th
2012 12th
2013 5th
2014 8th
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Peter Schwab has said that the Lions will give Allen Christensen a medical over the weekend, and will trade pick 21 on Monday for Christensen.
Ryan Griffen remains set on a move to Greater Western Sydney despite Brendan McCartney's resignation as Western Bulldogs.
Sam McClure is reporting that Adam Cooney is having a medical at North Melbourne. Cooney has told the Western Bulldogs he is open to being traded according to the Herald Sun. It has also been confirmed Cooney has met with Essendon. Almost certain he won't be at the kennel in 2015.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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cooney to North hahha what are north thinking this so remembers me off our Prelim lose to Brisbane under frawley and then we tried to top off with old experienced players eg: paul Hudson etc hahahah good luck north enjoy that slideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :thumbsup
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I think ijust hear on ch 7 that collingwood have now opened the Beams trade to all clubs and the Dees interested with pick 3.... :facepalm
Can someone deny this please??
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Trengrove more classy
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I think ijust hear on ch 7 that collingwood have now opened the Beams trade to all clubs and the Dees interested with pick 3.... :facepalm
Can someone deny this please??
He's contracted so he can refuse as much as Collingwood refuse to trade him to Brisbane.
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Trengrove more classy
than Beams?
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I think ijust hear on ch 7 that collingwood have now opened the Beams trade to all clubs and the Dees interested with pick 3.... :facepalm
Can someone deny this please??
Beams will go anywhere. Its true his old man is crook but the real season for him wishing to leave is that he hates Buckley's guts.
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Players from bottom clubs wanting to go to top clubs. Free agency working as intended.
I'm hearing we're showing interest in reuniting the dynamic duo, we're all over Alex Conti and Taylor Petrenko. :shh
Was actually going to post up last night if you had anymore mail for us this year :lol
Just read that the Crows have thrown Taylor Petrenko on the open market .... get it done, Tiges!
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Do not get it done
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Straight swap for Hampson?
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Straight swap for Hampson?
Might have to throw in a sweetener on top ....
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Straight swap for Hampson?
Stop using my line
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Trengrove more classy
than Beams?
hhaarrghh hhhaaarrrggghhhh hhhhhaaarrrggghhh its golden. trengove is not even a tiger yet but hes suddenly a champion.
thank god for tiger supporters.
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Straight swap for Hampson?
Stop using my line
I only used it once.
And with a ?
As in enquiring, where is the standard line?
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Straight swap for Hampson?
Stop using my line
You forgot to copyright it Chucky! :lol
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Trengrove more classy
than Beams?
hhaarrghh hhhaaarrrggghhhh hhhhhaaarrrggghhh its golden. trengove is not even a tiger yet but hes suddenly a champion.
thank god for tiger supporters.
I thought since he was non RFC you would be all over him, but does that change as soon as someone is linked to RFC
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Straight swap for Hampson?
Stop using my line
You forgot to copyright it Chucky! :lol
Stuffing stuff you are right, my apologies GR12 plagiarise away
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Straight swap for Hampson. (2014). Chucky 17, Richmond Rant, Trade week rumours and innuendo. One eyed Richmond. Melbourne, Victoria.
Forgive me, my apa referencing is scratchy.
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Brett Anderson (Inside Football) twitter:
Trengove might not be only ex-high Dees draft pick we hear about in next few days. Melbourne brass have plenty of work ahead #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Brett Anderson (Inside Football) twitter:
Trengove might not be only ex-high Dees draft pick we hear about in next few days. Melbourne brass have plenty of work ahead #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Brett Anderson is a flog, knows nothing.
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Brett Anderson (Inside Football) twitter:
Trengove might not be only ex-high Dees draft pick we hear about in next few days. Melbourne brass have plenty of work ahead #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Brett Anderson is a flog, knows nothing.
He's talking about Watts....
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Brett Anderson (Inside Football) twitter:
Trengove might not be only ex-high Dees draft pick we hear about in next few days. Melbourne brass have plenty of work ahead #AFLTrades.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
Brett Anderson is a flog, knows nothing.
He's talking about Watts....
Watts about him ?
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stop trying so hard chuckster you look silly. stick to the one liners more apt id say. definately more intelligent. hhhhaaarrrrggghhhhh.
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if we are going to trade a pick 12 for a player surely they meet a few pretty simple criteria. trengove fails in two pretty key areas that i can see im sure you lot can see them as well.
if this trade happens people need to be aware it is a risky trade and thats not just because of his foot.
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Trengrove more classy
than Beams?
hhaarrghh hhhaaarrrggghhhh hhhhhaaarrrggghhh its golden. trengove is not even a tiger yet but hes suddenly a champion.
thank god for tiger supporters.
I would argue Trengove is more classy. Much worse player though.
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Trengrove more classy
than Beams?
hhaarrghh hhhaaarrrggghhhh hhhhhaaarrrggghhh its golden. trengove is not even a tiger yet but hes suddenly a champion.
thank god for tiger supporters.
I would argue Trengove is more classy. Much worse player though.
hmm does more classy mean looks better but less effective. if so judgy i apologise.
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Trengrove more classy
than Beams?
hhaarrghh hhhaaarrrggghhhh hhhhhaaarrrggghhh its golden. trengove is not even a tiger yet but hes suddenly a champion.
thank god for tiger supporters.
I would argue Trengove is more classy. Much worse player though.
Yeahright amuse me,
Go ahead and argue the point :)
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What do people think about these diff scenarios:-
- our pick 12 to port for Westhoff
- our pick 12 and Vickery for Melb pick 3
- our pick 31 for Watts
Winners? Losers?
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errr how bout we just keep pick 12, its obviously valuable
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What do people think about these diff scenarios:-
- our pick 12 to port for Westhoff - no way
- our pick 12 and Vickery for Melb pick 3 - maybe
- our pick 31 for Watts - yes from me
Winners? Losers?
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What do people think about these diff scenarios:-
- our pick 12 to port for Westhoff
- our pick 12 and Vickery for Melb pick 3
- our pick 31 for Watts
Winners? Losers?
Anyone who gets Watts loses
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Watts >> Chaplin
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Watts >> Chaplin
Dunno Hampson yes not sure about Chaplin
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More skill
Not much less soft
Faster
Reads play better
More agile
Better in every attribute I'm afraid
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More skill
Not much less soft
Faster
Reads play better
More agile
Better in every attribute I'm afraid
Don't be absurd JR ;D
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If your going to quote me use the word i actually said :police:
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More skill
Not much less soft
Faster
Reads play better
More agile
Better in every attribute I'm afraid
Don't be absurd JR ;D
Must be taking the pizz. Surely he doesn't actually think that!
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Watts is crap.
Pea heart - just like trengrove
stuff I hate this club
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Its not if watts is crap or not
The question is how crap is chaplin
Overrated by a few here Ithink
I rrespectfully disagree over trengrove and think he'd be a steal, for a ten pick downgrade
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What do people think about these diff scenarios:-
- our pick 12 to port for Westhoff
- our pick 12 and Vickery for Melb pick 3
- our pick 31 for Watts
Winners? Losers?
Pick 12 & Vickery ---> Pick 3 :thumbsup
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Essendon has confirmed former St Kilda defender James Gwilt will join the club as a delisted free agent.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-11/gwilt-set-to-join-bombers
Adelaide has been linked to several players seeking trades including ruckman Jonathan Giles, plus Hawthorn duo Ryan Schoenmakers and Luke Lowden.
The Herald Sun reports the Crows have also enquired about re-gaining their former defender Phil Davis, who is now co-captain at Greater Western Sydney.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-11/trade-winds-saturday
According to 3AW:
North Melbourne have rejected Collingwood's second round pick, currently 30, for midfielder Levi Greenwood.
Should Collingwood agree to accept Brisbane's proposed pick 5 and 25 for Dayne Beams in a direct deal, pick 25 would be passed on to North Melbourne for Greenwood, with the Roos on-trading that selection to the Bulldogs for Adam Cooney.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews?fref=nf
Unless Pies offload Beams, they can't fit Travis Varcoe under the salary cap.
GWS offered picks 4 and 19 and 2 players for Ryan Griffen which the Dogs rejected.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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Should give norf 23 for greenwood
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NAE
Keep in 23
Get tregrobe hope for cock or garlett
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NAE
Keep in 23
Get tregrobe hope for cock or garlett
Correct again Bents.....
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Essendon has confirmed former St Kilda defender James Gwilt will join the club as a delisted free agent.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-11/gwilt-set-to-join-bombers
Adelaide has been linked to several players seeking trades including ruckman Jonathan Giles, plus Hawthorn duo Ryan Schoenmakers and Luke Lowden.
The Herald Sun reports the Crows have also enquired about re-gaining their former defender Phil Davis, who is now co-captain at Greater Western Sydney.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-11/trade-winds-saturday
According to 3AW:
North Melbourne have rejected Collingwood's second round pick, currently 30, for midfielder Levi Greenwood.
Should Collingwood agree to accept Brisbane's proposed pick 5 and 25 for Dayne Beams in a direct deal, pick 25 would be passed on to North Melbourne for Greenwood, with the Roos on-trading that selection to the Bulldogs for Adam Cooney.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews?fref=nf
Unless Pies offload Beams, they can't fit Travis Varcoe under the salary cap.
GWS offered picks 4 and 19 and 2 players for Ryan Griffen which the Dogs rejected.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
4, 19 and 2 players is a great deal for griff.
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4, 19 and 2 players is a great deal for griff.
Fantastic deal
Talk about overs
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Why do you draft interstaters if they just wanna go home all the time?
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4, 19 and 2 players is a great deal for griff.
Fantastic deal
Talk about overs
Yep crazy stuff. 2 years ago I could understand holding out for better but he's 29 next year with back issues.
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Watts >> Chaplin
Nope.
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4, 19 and 2 players is a great deal for griff.
Fantastic deal
Talk about overs
Great deal for a 28 yo.
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Apparently Motlop wants out from Geelong.
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Apparently Motlop wants out from Geelong.
Now he is a player I would think would add the X factor we need.
Straight swap for Hampson (copyright Chucky17, registered October 2014)!
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Apparently Motlop wants out from Geelong.
Where'd you hear that one?
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GWS defender Sam Frost could join Melbourne in pre-season draft. Frost - to help cover Frawley - for nothing and pick 3 would be a big Dees win.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger
Jack Crisp could be the circuit breaker to help the Lions secure Dayne Beams reports The Age.
Crisp has told Brisbane officials he would be happy to move back to Victoria if a trade can be brokered, otherwise he would accept a new two-year deal the Lions have tabled for him.
Crisp has attracted interest not form Collingwood, but from Essendon who are keen to secure his services. The Bulldogs have also shown interest.
A trade between the Lions and Bombers, likely for a draft selection, would allow the Lions to re-enter a complex six-club trade they had initially declined to get the deal processed.
It would involve the following:
GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21; Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Ess pick; Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25; Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba; Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Allen Christensen; Out - Pick 5, 21, 25, Crisp
ESSENDON: In: Crisp; Out - Ess pick
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Brisbane's interest in Carlton Mitch Robinson has cooled since he initially met Lions recruiting manager Peter Schwab.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/new-name-emerges-in-dayne-beams-deal-as-trades-heat-up-20141011-114s3k.html
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From today's West Australian ...
Fremantle want to offload one of their spare rucks for an upgrade of their first round pick (currently pick 13).
Contracted ruckmen Jon Griffin and Jack Hannath are viewed as potential trade options.
Adelaide and Richmond, who hold picks 10 and 12 respectively, are both lacking depth in their ruck stocks.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/25236703/freo-aim-to-trade-for-top-10-pick/
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there's pick 12 being mentioned again. I think we are now in prime position to shop it around for a lower pick. whilst its so popular, lets offer it to Melbourne straight swap for their pick 3. ;D
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Essendon won't make Ryder a free agent. Was discussed today, but decided against it. Essendon and Port Adelaide remains at a stalemate.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-decides-against-releasing-paddy-ryder-as-a-free-agent-20141012-114yqm.html#ixzz3FuATQJQ7
Neither Ryan Griffen or Adam Cooney will be a Bulldog next year. Griffen will be a Giant, Cooney will either be a Kangaroo or a Bomber.
Despite no deal being done by Collingwood's imposed Friday deadline, I still firmly believe Dayne Beams will be at the Lions next year.
https://twitter.com/White_Adam
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Nothing new on our front ...
RICHMOND
The Tigers appear to have lost their battle to convince Jason Winderlich to come out of retirement and join the club as a free agent. They looked set to take their early picks to the draft but they have opened discussions late in the week with Melbourne in a deal to exchange their No.12 pick for Jack Trengove and Melbourne's No.23 pick.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-11/clubbyclub-how-week-one-of-the-exchange-period-played-out
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Ch 7 news last night said Collingwood and Brisbane have all but agreed to a trade for Dayne Beams.
Beams to Brisbane.
Picks 5, 25 and Jack Crisp to Collingwood.
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The Herald Sun is reporting that Ryan Shoenmakers is 'shattered' that Hawthorn have shopped him around over the weekend.
List Manager Graham Wright was adamant last week the 23 year old key defender was staying put, so too was Shoenmakers who was willing to fight for his spot, but the acquisition of Jono O'Rourke has changed Hawthorn's mind.
Fremantle and Adelaide have signalled their interest over the weekend, with the Crows tabling pick 31 and the Dockers tabling pick 34.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-hawthorn-shops-key-defender-ryan-schoenmakers-to-rival-clubs/story-fndv8os9-1227088022567
Adelaide is interested in securing respected Hawthorn defender Kyle Cheney as it looks to bolster its defensive depth.
Adelaide and Essendon remain open to securing a ruckman during the trade period with Jonathan Giles and Luke Lowden seeking opportunities.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-12/trade-wrap-crows-eye-hawk
Three clubs have seriously inquired about obtaining St Kilda's pick 1 which is up for trade.
Greater Western Sydney and Western Bulldogs are two of the three suitors actively looking to trade up.
The Bulldogs seem to be in the box seat, as its expected that they'll receive strong draft picks for the loss of captain, Ryan Griffen who nominated GWS as his destination during the trade period.
St Kilda are looking to obtain three first-round selections for the second year in a row since drafting Luke Dunstan, Blake Acres and Jack Billings last year.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-clubs-lining-up-to-secure-no-1-draft-pick-for-explosive-midfielder-christian-petracca/story-e6frf3e3-1227088015395
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews?fref=nf
Carlton look set to give up Pick 7 for Kristian Jaksch and pick 19. Mark Whiley could also become part of the deal.
Port might have to give up their first and second round picks to Essendon for Paddy Ryder.
Just about take this to the bank, Travis Varcoe will be in the black and white next season.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
The Eagles have also spoken to Carlton’s Kane Lucas about a possible return home to WA.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/cats-star-joins-the-lions-midfield/story-fnca0u4y-1227088217266
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phil markov::::: Griffiths is from Adelaide not Sydney so interstate players wanting to go home is not correct there mate specially in this case.....
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wot?
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Ben Griff from belgrave Victoria way isn't it?
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phil markov::::: Griffiths is from Adelaide not Sydney so interstate players wanting to go home is not correct there mate specially in this case.....
might want to check that pal
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Griffen was born in Goolwa, a South Australian port town at the mouth of the Murray River and began his football career with South Adelaide.
No worries Phil happy to hear your apologise u were probably looking up Ryan Griffiths who plays in the A League :thumbsup
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Griffen was born in Goolwa, a South Australian port town at the mouth of the Murray River and began his football career with South Adelaide.
No worries Phil happy to hear your apologise u were probably looking up Ryan Griffiths who plays in the A League :thumbsup
griffen ?
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phil markov::::: Griffiths is from Adelaide not Sydney so interstate players wanting to go home is not correct there mate specially in this case.....
It seems that is is you that needs to apologise as you wrote down Griffiths NOT Griffen.... :whistle
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no really Griffith is from Adelaide not sydney :thumbsup
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Griffen was born in Goolwa, a South Australian port town at the mouth of the Murray River and began his football career with South Adelaide. THIS IS FOR RYAN GRIFFEN AFL FOOTBALLER do I need to add more anyway his from SA... If you read my previous post I said Phil probably looked up Ryan Griffiths who plays A League soccer he is from Sydney.. Clearly not to smart behind the old PC guys :thumbsup
Anyway who cares lets just get back to trying to get some decent players across
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i think you should be paying more attention to your teacher rather than posting on the interweb during class
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i think you should be paying more attention to your teacher rather than posting on the interweb during class
:clapping
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MUPPETS x 2
and im think u need :help
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Tom Boyd #1 pick last year wants to go footscray...
Throw the kitchen sink at him ffs
richmond > dogs
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totally agree there is another key forward we should chase come on tigers would be a huge plus in a couple of years big body in 2 years vickery gone probably one hampson gone don't no why I included him but anyway so what will have jack and griffo to carry us...
tell me why players seem to want to go to dogs, Melbourne yet the ones that want to come to Richmond are ones who have decided to come out of retirement recovering from serious foot issues we should be an attractive club to want to come and play with...
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no really Griffith is from Adelaide not sydney :thumbsup
:lol ..... :shh
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totally agree there is another key forward we should chase come on tigers would be a huge plus in a couple of years big body in 2 years vickery gone probably one hampson gone don't no why I included him but anyway so what will have jack and griffo to carry us...
tell me why players seem to want to go to dogs, Melbourne yet the ones that want to come to Richmond are ones who have decided to come out of retirement recovering from serious foot issues we should be an attractive club to want to come and play with...
Maybe because the dogs have $2.5 million in unused cap space......
Money talks louder than anything we know.........
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Tom Boyd #1 pick last year wants to go footscray...
Throw the kitchen sink at him ffs
richmond > dogs
Send them Deledio he's done
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Maybe because the dogs have $2.5 million in unused cap space
Yeh but they'e only got 2.5 million yen in their bank account.
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Maybe because the dogs have $2.5 million in unused cap space
Yeh but they'e only got 2.5 million yen in their bank account.
That doesn't matter anymore with the AFL's communist equalisation fund......
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totally agree there is another key forward we should chase come on tigers would be a huge plus in a couple of years big body in 2 years vickery gone probably one hampson gone don't no why I included him but anyway so what will have jack and griffo to carry us...
tell me why players seem to want to go to dogs, Melbourne yet the ones that want to come to Richmond are ones who have decided to come out of retirement recovering from serious foot issues we should be an attractive club to want to come and play with...
Maybe because the dogs have $2.5 million in unused cap space......
Money talks louder than anything we know.........
true, and they must pay up to 95% right? So assuming that is right either duds like minson are in line for a hefty pay rise or blokes like boyd are getting targeted with 500k contracts to meet the tpp.
My understanding is all clubs must pay 95% of the cap which is 10mil approx
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totally agree there is another key forward we should chase come on tigers would be a huge plus in a couple of years big body in 2 years vickery gone probably one hampson gone don't no why I included him but anyway so what will have jack and griffo to carry us...
tell me why players seem to want to go to dogs, Melbourne yet the ones that want to come to Richmond are ones who have decided to come out of retirement recovering from serious foot issues we should be an attractive club to want to come and play with...
Maybe because the dogs have $2.5 million in unused cap space......
Money talks louder than anything we know.........
You are correct....
true, and they must pay up to 95% right? So assuming that is right either duds like minson are in line for a hefty pay rise or blokes like boyd are getting targeted with 500k contracts to meet the tpp.
My understanding is all clubs must pay 95% of the cap which is 10mil approx
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totally agree there is another key forward we should chase come on tigers would be a huge plus in a couple of years big body in 2 years vickery gone probably one hampson gone don't no why I included him but anyway so what will have jack and griffo to carry us...
tell me why players seem to want to go to dogs, Melbourne yet the ones that want to come to Richmond are ones who have decided to come out of retirement recovering from serious foot issues we should be an attractive club to want to come and play with...
Maybe because the dogs have $2.5 million in unused cap space......
Money talks louder than anything we know.........
not to sure about that doc. as a former Richmond great used to say whilst doing geelong game commentary on 3aw - "there is no greater power than the power of the pussy".
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Apparently Christensen to Brisbane in exchange for pick 21 is done
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When does all this trading end??
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
Yep
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
Yep
Thanks how was your day?
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
Yep
Thanks how was your day?
:lol
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
Yep
Thanks how was your day?
:lol
;D
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
Yep
Thanks how was your day?
Not bad, not bad. You?
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Mark Stevens has tweeted tonight that "Industry sources saying Dogs are dangling in region of $1.1 mill a year at Tom Boyd ... Length at least 5 years, maybe even 6-7"
St Kilda have flagged their interest with Tom Boyd and their number 1 pick is on the table.
Jack Crisp has successfully undergone a medical test at the Westpac Centre, and will tomorrow be a Magpie along with picks 5 and 25 for star midfielder, Dayne Beams according to SEN.
Anthony Hudson has reported on SEN that North Melbourne's Kieran Harper could be traded.
Jon Giles wikipedia page has his new club listed as Essendon.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-13/trade-wrap-crisp-bit-added
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
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When does all this trading end??
2nd thursday
so this Thursday??
Yep
Thanks how was your day?
lol
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Hawk Luke Lowden did a medical at Essendon today. Option B if Giles goes to Adelaide. Adelaide for Giles I'm hearing.
Adam Cooney is likely to be a Bomber by end of trade period. How deal looks remains up in the air though.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF
The Herald-Sun is saying the Western Bulldogs could be prepared to pay part of Adam Cooney’s salary to seal a trade to another Victorian club. Essendon and North Melbourne remain interested in luring the 2008 Brownlow Medallist, who has passed all his medical examinations with flying colours.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-could-help-adam-cooney-find-new-afl-club-via-trade-by-part-paying-salary/story-fn69a32t-1227089243681
Mark Whiley has attracted significant interest from Collingwood, which is proving to being the stumbling block that is currently holding up a proposed deal for Carlton. Carlton have tonight met with Mark Whiley's manager, having pieced together every other element of the trade that'll likely see Kristian Jaksch, Whiley and pick 19 to the Blues in exchange for pick 7.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kristian-jaksch-and-mark-whiley-set-to-be-traded-to-carlton-from-gws-giants/story-fn69a32t-1227089202874
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Arnot could be delisted, unless another trade eventuates. Club want to use 4 draft picks.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-trengove-to-the-tigers-poll-added.1079715/page-49#post-35691733
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The crazy season is hotting up.
People love the chase just because it gives em a 5 minute hit, then said player turns
out to be a bust.
Glad we are playing the game slowly, waiting till something worthwhile chasing comes up.
Any hoo must get back to the beach in beautiful Honolulu. :lol
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Arnot could be delisted, unless another trade eventuates. Club want to use 4 draft picks.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-trengove-to-the-tigers-poll-added.1079715/page-49#post-35691733
Shame if he is delisted.
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Keep Arnotts
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Can't delist Arnott. Will become a beast !!
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Can't delist Arnott. Will become a beast !!
Would think with the TRengove deal kaput then Arnott stays
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Can't delist Arnott. Will become a beast !!
Would think with the TRengove deal kaput then Arnott stays
but you still want Mcdonogh draded right?
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Can't delist Arnott. Will become a beast !!
Would think with the TRengove deal kaput then Arnott stays
but you still want Mcdonogh draded right?
Don't care either way TBBH
If they trade him so be it, if they keep him that's fine too
If they do trade him I just don't think they will get more than a 3rd rounder for him that's all. At this point in his career I don't think he is worth more than a 3rd rounder
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Can't delist Arnott. Will become a beast !!
Would think with the TRengove deal kaput then Arnott stays
but you still want Mcdonogh draded right?
Don't care either way TBBH
If they trade him so be it, if they keep him that's fine too
If they do trade him I just don't think they will get more than a 3rd rounder for him that's all. At this point in his career I don't think he is worth more than a 3rd rounder
But you don't rate him
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But you don't rate him
I don't rate him highly enough to expect more than 3rd round pick for him
And no I am not sold on him long term. But there are few on our list that I'm not convinced on and that I don't rate as highly as others.
Similar to you, you have players you don't rate don't you?
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Ruckman Jonathan Giles has nominated Essendon as his preferred new home.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/giles-picks-bombers
Adam Cooney increasingly likely to join Shaun Higgins at North Melbourne. Deal more likely to be struck than with Essendon.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger
Paul Connors has told Trade Radio that Paddy Ryder is prepared to head to the AFL grievance tribunal should Essendon block his trade to Port Adelaide.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
Jay Clark has reported on SEN that Levi Greenwood to Collingwood is a "done deal". The Pies will hand over pick 25, which they will receive off Brisbane in the deal for Dayne Beams, whilst a swap of later picks is also on the cards.
GWS' Mark Whiley has agreed to a move to Carlton with teammate Kristian Jaksch overnight. The deal is expected to be completed today.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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With all these flakes that north are getting they just might be able to get one on the park sometime.
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Cooney would of been handy
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Geelong are talking with St Kilda about a potential trade for Rhys Stanley according to Michael Gleeson.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-and-cats-talk-on-rhys-stanley-20141014-115pzx.html?rand=1413249205113
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Mate just told me Voss has signed with Power
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Dam :(
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Mate just told me Voss has signed with Power
It's true. Voss to be an assistant (midfield) coach at Port.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/voss-joins-port-adelaide
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Voss is a pooty
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lol
this is the difference in being a good club with flag potential and a middle of the road clubs as we will continue to be
Lose leppa and that other fella replace with bag of chestnuts.
Port lose a coach replace with a former coach and a gun in vossy. Hawks ditto ratten.
bunch of amateurs down at Punt Road.
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We have no spots available
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Manager Liam Pickering on Trade Radio said Tom Boyd doesn't want to live in Western Sydney anymore, he wants to come home. He will come home.
Boyd will come home when his contract expires at the end of 2015 regardless. I don't think there is (any way GWS can convince Tom Boyd to stay). He sees a future at the Bulldogs. He's assessed their list. He knows and has played with a lot of their players.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
Boyd may want to get to the Dogs but for GWS it would be better for all 10 Vic clubs to bid.
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North Melbourne are offering Pick 36 to the Western Bulldogs for Adam Cooney according to Brett Anderson from Inside Footy.
The Western Bulldogs would pay a portion of his salary in 2015.
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/with_replies
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Port Adelaide have upped their offer for Paddy Ryder to picks 17 & 37.
http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-trades-port-adelaide-increase-bid-for-paddy-ryder-clubs-circle-rhys-stanley/story-e6frfkp9-1227074447591
Gold Coast have rejected Port Adelaide's offer of Pick 37 for Daniel Gorringe.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
TRADE CONFIRMED - Collingwood's Dayne Beams and Pick 67 to Brisbane for Pick 5, 25 and Jack Crisp. Further details on the trades around this shortly. Paperwork signed off on and will be lodged tonight/early tomorrow. Slight hold up with Varcoe's contract with Collingwood.
Geelong are prepared to part with pick 21 for the Saints Rhys Stanley.
Hawks Mitch Hallahan is set to fly from the Nest and head North with the talented midfielder requesting a trade to Gold Coast for more opportunity.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
Giants have made a statement on Tom Boyd
"The GIANTS welcome comments by Tom Boyd's manager that he will honour his contract with the club. Liam Pickering told Trade Radio that Boyd would play for the GIANTS in 2015 if he was not traded. Chief Executive David Matthews said: "Given we have said Tom will not be traded under any circumstances we are pleased that any ambiguity has been removed and we look forward to welcoming Tom back to training next month and preparing for the 2015 season."
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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Port lose a coach replace with a former coach and a gun in vossy. Hawks ditto ratten.
bunch of amateurs down at Punt Road.
Gun player stuffing stuffed coach though
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21 for Stanley. Geez you'd take 21 and run like mad.
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21 for Stanley. Geez you'd take 21 and run like mad.
Makes you wonder what Vickery would get you?
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Essendon only offering pick 53 for Giles, surely we could throw pick 52 at him.
stuffing Hamspud, stuffing our trade period up for second year in a row.
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Got to love the media ...
Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news said Adam Cooney is likely off to Essendon.
Whereas, 3aw tonight said there's an in-principle deal with Cooney going to North.
AFL website is saying North Melbourne's Keiran Harper could join the Western Bulldogs in the Adam Cooney trade after successfully completing a medical. It is understood North's offer for Cooney will also involve an exchange of draft picks, with the Roos' second-round pick, No. 36, possibly also in play.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/harper-part-of-cooney-deal
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Neil Balme has said Taylor Hunt probably won't have a spot on Geelong's list for next season, Balme has said he expects he'll find another club but not sure which club.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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Ch 7 news said Collingwood is offering Travis Varcoe a 4-year deal.
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
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Taylor Hunt is who I was into a while back. Still keen.
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
BOG dreamtime 2015 for bombres.. lock it in :shh
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
BOG dreamtime 2015 for bombres.. lock it in :shh
Will kick the winner after the siren following a ruck infringement & 50 given away by big Shauny.
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
hammsoon us better
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
hammsoon us better
No he isn't.
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
hammsoon us better
No he isn't.
yes he is
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
hammsoon us better
No he isn't.
It's a close call. ........
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Port Adelaide have upped their offer for Paddy Ryder to picks 17 & 37.
http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-trades-port-adelaide-increase-bid-for-paddy-ryder-clubs-circle-rhys-stanley/story-e6frfkp9-1227074447591
Gold Coast have rejected Port Adelaide's offer of Pick 37 for Daniel Gorringe.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
TRADE CONFIRMED - Collingwood's Dayne Beams and Pick 67 to Brisbane for Pick 5, 25 and Jack Crisp. Further details on the trades around this shortly. Paperwork signed off on and will be lodged tonight/early tomorrow. Slight hold up with Varcoe's contract with Collingwood.
Geelong are prepared to part with pick 21 for the Saints Rhys Stanley.
Hawks Mitch Hallahan is set to fly from the Nest and head North with the talented midfielder requesting a trade to Gold Coast for more opportunity.
https://www.facebook.com/TheZanottiFiles
Giants have made a statement on Tom Boyd
"The GIANTS welcome comments by Tom Boyd's manager that he will honour his contract with the club. Liam Pickering told Trade Radio that Boyd would play for the GIANTS in 2015 if he was not traded. Chief Executive David Matthews said: "Given we have said Tom will not be traded under any circumstances we are pleased that any ambiguity has been removed and we look forward to welcoming Tom back to training next month and preparing for the 2015 season."
https://twitter.com/traderadio
geez stuff gcs lets have a go at hallahan.kid can play really like him a lot. theres a spot for him as well he walks straight into jackos job only hed be a massive upgrade on jacko. no need to play thomas then either.
there are plenty of players on offer who would improve areas of our list. they seem to be cheap.
im still scratching my head thinking of a way to get into a top 7 pick. one of three players i reaaly want us to get will still be there at 7.
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
BOG dreamtime 2015 for bombres.. lock it in :shh
Will kick the winner after the siren following a ruck infringement & 50 given away by big Shauny.
Yessssss :clapping
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
hammsoon us better
No he isn't.
It's a close call. ........
Giant Douche or the Turd Sandwhich
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Former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne in talks with Essendon after two stellar seasons with Keilor in the Essendon District Football League.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/former-richmond-ruckman-andrew-browne-in-talks-with-essendon-after-two-stellar-seasons-with-keilor-in-the-essendon-district-football-league/story-fngnvog3-1227090273124
Let's bring him back instead, upgrade on Hamspud. Get it done Chucky.
hammsoon us better
No he isn't.
It's a close call. ........
Giant Douche or the Turd Sandwhich
:lol
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:banghead :banghead :banghead
SNIP
Geez which bit about posting rumours that cannot be substantiated don't you folks understand
Unless it is fact eg in the public domain you know reported in the media keep it off here
Want to gossip do it via PMs, keep it off the forum
:banghead :banghead
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Sorry wp. Didn't know.
Trade rumours? . But anyway I won't do again.
Apologies to all.
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Sorry wp. Didn't know.
Trade rumours?
As posted in the Dustin Martin thread, this explains it
Hate to bring this up but there is a whole tread named 'trade week rumours and innuendo' And 99% of them are unsubstantiated.. I never really understood, what is the difference.
There's a difference between saying a player is going to change clubs to saying a player is involving in illegal activity (etc). The latter puts OER at legal risk of being sued for defamation.
Clear difference let's leave it at that
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All good.
Go tigers!!!
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Giants have made a statement on Tom Boyd
"The GIANTS welcome comments by Tom Boyd's manager that he will honour his contract with the club. Liam Pickering told Trade Radio that Boyd would play for the GIANTS in 2015 if he was not traded. Chief Executive David Matthews said: "Given we have said Tom will not be traded under any circumstances we are pleased that any ambiguity has been removed and we look forward to welcoming Tom back to training next month and preparing for the 2015 season."
https://twitter.com/traderadio
Does this mean Griffen will end up having to stay at the bulldogs. What a mess that has turned out to be for the club. They sacked their coach and their captain doesn't want to be there.
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Claw says it going to plan
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It's probably just made-up but the rumour doing the rounds tonight is Melbourne are willing to give up their picks 2 & 3 to get Swan Josh Kennedy.
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Brett Anderson is saying Adam Cooney would prefer to go to Essendon but North are closer to doing a deal as the Bombers want the Bulldogs to pay a greater percentage of Cooney's salary compared to the Kangaroos who are willing to accept less.
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Western Bulldogs are in discussions to secure Sydney Swans half-back Shane Biggs, who appears unlikely to remain at the Swans. Essendon also interested.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trade-wrap-trade-period-set-to-explode
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It's probably just made-up but the rumour doing the rounds tonight is Melbourne are willing to give up up their picks 2 & 3 to get Swan Josh Kennedy.
Good compensation if Kennedy does want to leave. But with him and Nick Malceski both leaving and the swans not being able to trade in any players it hurts their premiership chances next year.
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Just to throw one out there, how do you think Ryan Griffen would go at RFC, what would we need to do to get him?
We always complain we don't go after big fish, well there is one flopping in the water
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Just to throw one out there, how do you think Ryan Griffen would go at RFC, what would we need to do to get him?
We always complain we don't go after big fish, well there is one flopping in the water
In days gone by he would have fitted in really well, the good old "tail wagging the dogs" days
But this big fish has a chronic back injury that may means you have no idea how many games let alone seasons you'd get out of him
Too big a risk, too much baggage
No - I'd rather gone after Frawley than this bloke ;D
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Get Ryan griffin
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If his back injury is so bad, why haven't the Dogs jumped at the chance to get rid of him? Back our medical staff in, "WP". Ryan is not a bad bloke. Would go about his business just fine at Tigerland and if fit, would be a massive asset. I know it won't happen but I don't like it when people trap off about things they have no idea about
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Get Ryan griffin
Bents, it's Griffen not Griffin. ;D
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He's pig shooting
Gets back, tiger player
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Get Peter Griffin.
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Jarrad Heyne has apparently quit Eels to play NFL.
Supposed to be a big day in trades and haven't heard anything yet but NRL news!!
Surely we are quiet for a reason? something big is happening? (high hopes, yeah right)
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Jarrad Heyne has apparently quit Eels to play NFL.
Supposed to be a big day in trades and haven't heard anything yet but NRL news!!
Surely we are quiet for a reason? something big is happening? (high hopes, yeah right)
Nope nuthing
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Get Peter Griffin.
what position do you see Peter in?
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Mitch Robinson about to be delisted by the Blues as is Taylor Hunt by the Cats.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/mitch-robinson-set-to-be-delisted-by-carlton-after-little-trade-interest/story-e6frf3e3-1227090452054
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Mitch Robinson about to be delisted by the Blues as is Taylor Hunt by the Cats.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/mitch-robinson-set-to-be-delisted-by-carlton-after-little-trade-interest/story-e6frf3e3-1227090452054
get them both :shh
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Stanley done for #21
Vickery would be worth top five
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Stanley done for #21
Vickery would be worth top five
i really cant believe that, yet experts on here claim no one is prepared to cough up good picks for average players.
NFI
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Get Peter Griffin.
what position do you see Peter in?
Nuggety forward pocket.
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Stanley done for #21
Vickery would be worth top five
i really cant believe that, yet experts on here claim no one is prepared to cough up good picks for average players.
NFI
Its not that its just that our football department has never shown any nous when it comes to trading. None. Zip. Nutthink.
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Get Peter Griffin.
what position do you see Peter in?
Nuggety forward pocket.
Get Brian as a rover?? woof woof
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Get Peter Griffin.
what position do you see Peter in?
Nuggety forward pocket.
Get Brian as a rover?? woof woof
come on stewi as the rover little libba hahah :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Boyd for griffen done the age
How it going Richmond?
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Western Bulldogs captain and All-Australian midfielder Ryan Griffen will become a GIANT after a trade deal between the clubs today.
The GIANTS will receive Griffen as well as pick six in next month’s NAB AFL Draft in exchange for Tom Boyd.
The deal will be lodged with the AFL and Griffen will become a GIANT for the next four years.
See more at: http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-15/ryan-griffen-becomes-a-giant#sthash.DadDk2oj.dpuf
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Robinson and Hunt rookie list get it done :clapping
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Robbo is a hack
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Western Bulldogs captain and All-Australian midfielder Ryan Griffen will become a GIANT after a trade deal between the clubs today.
The GIANTS will receive Griffen as well as pick six in next month’s NAB AFL Draft in exchange for Tom Boyd.
The deal will be lodged with the AFL and Griffen will become a GIANT for the next four years.
See more at: http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-15/ryan-griffen-becomes-a-giant#sthash.DadDk2oj.dpuf
I applaud the doggies. They wanted a kid with a big reputation and did what they had to do to get him. Well done to the doggies. :clapping
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Good time for doggies fans
Lions fans
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Robbo is a hack
That's all we'd need him to be - hack the shyte out of the opposition's best player. Unless you'd prefer Grigg to do the job.
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Robbo is a hack
better than Grigg
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Robbo is a hack
better than Grigg
Robinson has actually stood up in an Elimination Final, which automatically puts him ahead of virtually our entire list.
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Robbo is a hack
better than Grigg
Robinson has actually stood up in an Elimination Final , which automatically puts him ahead of virtually our entire list.
dimma loves him we're all over it for rookie list
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I like the fact that our supporters have to unfortunately resorted to debating the merits of getting in the likes of Robinson lol whilst the Dogs and everyone else chase and succeed in getting real targets. We are the paupers of the AFL. Moneyball sux.
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Dogs have secured Tom Boyd in exchange for Griffen and pick# 6. Dogs might also be paying some of Griffen's salary next year
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I like the fact that our supporters have to unfortunately resorted to debating the merits of getting in the likes of Robinson lol whilst the Dogs and everyone else chase and succeed in getting real targets. We are the paupers of the AFL. Moneyball sux.
It was always going to end like this.
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Dogs have secured Tom Boyd in exchange for Griffen and pick# 6. Dogs might also be paying some of Griffen's salary next year
Huge. 29 has been for a potential FF great.
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I like the fact that our supporters have to unfortunately resorted to debating the merits of getting in the likes of Robinson lol whilst the Dogs and everyone else chase and succeed in getting real targets. We are the paupers of the AFL. Moneyball sux.
The Dogs must better than us at trading because their captain walked out on the club and their coach got the green grass?
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I like the fact that our supporters have to unfortunately resorted to debating the merits of getting in the likes of Robinson lol whilst the Dogs and everyone else chase and succeed in getting real targets. We are the paupers of the AFL. Moneyball sux.
The Dogs must better than us at trading because their captain walked out on the club and their coach got the green grass?
better than keeping a coach who has NFI
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I like the fact that our supporters have to unfortunately resorted to debating the merits of getting in the likes of Robinson lol whilst the Dogs and everyone else chase and succeed in getting real targets. We are the paupers of the AFL. Moneyball sux.
The Dogs must better than us at trading because their captain walked out on the club and their coach got the green grass?
A captain who is 28/29years old and a coach who is easily replaced. When the Bulldogs, Saints, Lions, Magpies and afew others go past us in the next 2 or 3 years and when we miss the finals next year don't come in here making excuses. 2 YEARS of trading for Richmond at the moment = Shaun Hampson as an In and a 2nd round draft selection as an out! And that on any measure is not good enough. Its a dead set failure.
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Ramps I believe our past recruiting has caught up with those in charge and they are too scared to screw this draft up
I mean Stanley for pick 21 is incredible really, and people still think clubs don't pay a price for duds
That says to me we could have traded back into the top 20 in this draft but They must have faith in that old fart FJ
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Robbo is a hack
robbo a hack ur kidding at least hell fly the flag mate we will pick him upp know for nothing dimma will want him tough hard and does get possies...
u think his not better then Thomas, grigg, houil,pettard, mcd, Arnott, come on even newman, foley :thumbsup
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Dogs have secured Tom Boyd in exchange for Griffen and pick# 6. Dogs might also be paying some of Griffen's salary next year
That's a good deal. Griffen won't be there for their next premiership and after last week it's probably for the best not to have him around.
The next question is who are the bulldogs going to hire as their coach
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Dogs have secured Tom Boyd in exchange for Griffen and pick# 6. Dogs might also be paying some of Griffen's salary next year
That's a good deal. Griffen won't be there for their next premiership and after last week it's probably for the best not to have him around.
The next question is who are the bulldogs going to hire as their coach
maybe tom boyd will have a say in that Kevin Sheedy :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Pick 21 for Stanley.... Surely Vickery would get an offer around the 30 mark?? :banghead
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Rumour has it we will make a last minute trade tomorrow.....just to keep the whingers happy.....for another spud :shh (trademark, Bojangles).
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Western Bulldogs captain and All-Australian midfielder Ryan Griffen will become a GIANT after a trade deal between the clubs today.
The GIANTS will receive Griffen as well as pick six in next month’s NAB AFL Draft in exchange for Tom Boyd.
The deal will be lodged with the AFL and Griffen will become a GIANT for the next four years.
See more at: http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-15/ryan-griffen-becomes-a-giant#sthash.DadDk2oj.dpuf
I applaud the doggies. They wanted a kid with a big reputation and did what they had to do to get him. Well done to the doggies. :clapping
Yep a very good deal for Footscray
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Heard Jon Ralph on SEN this morning. He and Kb were discussing our list and he mad the comment that clubs had been told Vickery was off limits
Cats get Stanley for pick 21. Will say it again it is staggering to me they didn't offer him up. We could have got a pick between 15 and 20 for him
And we didn't even bother trying... That's the thing that annoys the hell out of me. The fact it appears we haven't tried anything else outside Trengove.
Staggering
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Heard Jon Ralph on SEN this morning. He and Kb were discussing our list and he mad the comment that clubs had been told Vickery was off limits
Cats get Stanley for pick 21. Will say it again it is staggering to me they didn't offer him up. We could have got a pick between 15 and 20 for him
And we didn't even bother trying... That's the thing that annoys the hell out of me. The fact it appears we haven't tried anything else outside Trengove.
Staggering
He'd better deliver in spades next year then.....
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Heard Jon Ralph on SEN this morning. He and Kb were discussing our list and he mad the comment that clubs had been told Vickery was off limits
Cats get Stanley for pick 21. Will say it again it is staggering to me they didn't offer him up. We could have got a pick between 15 and 20 for him
And we didn't even bother trying... That's the thing that annoys the hell out of me. The fact it appears we haven't tried anything else outside Trengove.
Staggering
:clapping
apparently we dodged a bullet WP, everyone bar hawthorn has paid overs for their trades ;D
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high hopes, yeah right
Nah not really
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Heard Jon Ralph on SEN this morning. He and Kb were discussing our list and he mad the comment that clubs had been told Vickery was off limits
Cats get Stanley for pick 21. Will say it again it is staggering to me they didn't offer him up. We could have got a pick between 15 and 20 for him
And we didn't even bother trying... That's the thing that annoys the hell out of me. The fact it appears we haven't tried anything else outside Trengove.
Staggering
You mean pick 1? stuff me 21 for Stanley? :lol :lol I thought Geelong were switched on. :whistle
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Heard Jon Ralph on SEN this morning. He and Kb were discussing our list and he mad the comment that clubs had been told Vickery was off limits
Cats get Stanley for pick 21. Will say it again it is staggering to me they didn't offer him up. We could have got a pick between 15 and 20 for him
And we didn't even bother trying... That's the thing that annoys the hell out of me. The fact it appears we haven't tried anything else outside Trengove.
Staggering
He'd better deliver in spades next year then.....
#1whippingboy
And the spades better be made of glory, sunshine and diamonds
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How can we just finish 8th and think that our list is ok to be competitive for top four? I understand peoples arguements with there is no point being active just to get spuds. But this year has proven contracts mean sweet f all ,so go out and chase.
Early in the year they complained no leadership, go and get some one. Goddard was free agency but he'll has he made a difference at essendon with leadership.
Has really got me buggered that we have signed all last year players and not looking like to being any one over tomorrow.
Not preparing is preparing to fail. I hope I can come back here next September and eat my words.
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You wouldn't want Dan Richardson to be your stockbroker that's for damn sure.
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How can we just finish 8th and think that our list is ok to be competitive for top four? I understand peoples arguements with there is no point being active just to get spuds. But this year has proven contracts mean sweet f all ,so go out and chase.
Early in the year they complained no leadership, go and get some one. Goddard was free agency but he'll has he made a difference at essendon with leadership.
Has really got me buggered that we have signed all last year players and not looking like to being any one over tomorrow.
Not preparing is preparing to fail. I hope I can come back here next September and eat my words.
Rfc
Plop plop plop. Tm
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locked and loaded baby
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We have nobody with the required level of leadership.
We have Chris Newman.
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Are the Tiges happy just to go to the draft or are they doing a little bit of trade work?
Herald-Sun's Ben Higgins - Missed out on Trengove due to injury. Now to the draft.
http://www.news.com.au/national/afl-trades-ryan-griffen-traded-to-gws-for-tom-boyd/story-e6frfkp9-1227074447591
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Boyd will be on a 7 year deal on approximately 1 mill a season :o.
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Latest rumour - GWS will trade a combination of pick 4, 6 and 7 for St Kilda's Pick 1.
St Kilda expect McCartin to still be available at pick 4 whereas GWS wants Petracca.
1. GWS - Petracca
2. Melbourne - Wright ..... McCartin too similar to Hogan. Dees want a 200cm forward/ruck type.
3. Melbourne - Brayshaw
4. St Kilda - McCartin
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Talk of ...
Bulldogs Liam Jones going to Carlton for pick 46.
Essendon offering Hardingham or Kavanagh up for Cooney.
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locked and loaded baby
Locked, loaded, the gun is pointing back at the club and the safety catch is broken
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Aren't there outlined prices for 1st and 2nd year players that can't be exceeded?
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Aren't there outlined prices for 1st and 2nd year players that can't be exceeded?
Only when they are initially drafted, there is a tier system. At the end of the first year the contracts can be renegotiated.
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RICHMOND:
Incoming: Ivan Soldo (Category B Rookie)
Outgoing: Jake King (retired), Daniel Jackson (retired), Aaron Edwards (delisted), Brett O’Hanlon (delisted), Brad Helbig (delisted), Orren Stephenson (delisted), Todd Banfield (delisted), Cayden Williams (delisted), Ben Darrou (delisted)
National Draft: 12, 33, 52, 70, 88, 106, 124
Rookie Draft:
Looks like we're heavily relying on the draft this year. Not bothered by this considering the fails of last year. ( Hampson, Thomas ).
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It you are talking about Boyd, then Yeahright's is right.
In 2015 as a 2nd year player he will only be paid what is original contract was for. on 3AW tonight they were saying it's around $150k-$215k (includes match payments), his new mega with the Dogs will not kick in until 2016
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It you are talking about Boyd, then Yeahright's is right.
In 2015 as a 2nd year player he will only be paid what is original contract was for. on 3AW tonight they were saying it's around $150k-$215k (includes match payments), his new mega with the Dogs will not kick in until 2016
fair enough - could've sworn Ive seen some players in the past renegotiate their deals at the end of year 1.
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RICHMOND:
Incoming: Ivan Soldo (Category B Rookie)
Outgoing: Jake King (retired), Daniel Jackson (retired), Aaron Edwards (delisted), Brett O’Hanlon (delisted), Brad Helbig (delisted), Orren Stephenson (delisted), Todd Banfield (delisted), Cayden Williams (delisted), Ben Darrou (delisted)
National Draft: 12, 33, 52, 70, 88, 106, 124
Rookie Draft:
Looks like we're heavily relying on the draft this year. Not bothered by this considering the fails of last year. ( Hampson, Thomas ).
I like it ......a lot :clapping
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We lose a best 22 player in Jacko and get nobody to replace him. I reckon we are a sure thing to miss the finals next year
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We lose a best 22 player in Jacko and get nobody to replace him. I reckon we are a sure thing to miss the finals next year
Except he only played two matches in the second half of the year when we started winning and he was never that good anyway.
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RICHMOND:
Incoming: Ivan Soldo (Category B Rookie)
Outgoing: Jake King (retired), Daniel Jackson (retired), Aaron Edwards (delisted), Brett O’Hanlon (delisted), Brad Helbig (delisted), Orren Stephenson (delisted), Todd Banfield (delisted), Cayden Williams (delisted), Ben Darrou (delisted)
National Draft: 12, 33, 52, 70, 88, 106, 124
Rookie Draft:
Looks like we're heavily relying on the draft this year. Not bothered by this considering the fails of last year. ( Hampson, Thomas ).
I like it ......a lot :clapping
You aren't the hardest man to please :lol
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Time for these youngish.. Tigers to step up.
Ellis, Astbury, Grimes, Conca, Vickery, Griffiths, Batchelor, Vlastuin, Dea, Elton, McBean, McDonough, McIntosh, Lloyd & Gordon.
Swim or sink, it's out of the nest time.
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It you are talking about Boyd, then Yeahright's is right.
In 2015 as a 2nd year player he will only be paid what is original contract was for. on 3AW tonight they were saying it's around $150k-$215k (includes match payments), his new mega with the Dogs will not kick in until 2016
fair enough - could've sworn Ive seen some players in the past renegotiate their deals at the end of year 1.
Players who have been in the system a number of years can, absolutely
But 1st year players can't as per the initial minimum 2 year standard contract they receive. The other thing I learnt yesterday via 3AW when they were discussion the Boyd scenario, they said he automatically got extra $$ (a small allowance) for being the number 1 pick. :o
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We lose a best 22 player in Jacko and get nobody to replace him. I reckon we are a sure thing to miss the finals next year
y
How many games did he play in this years barnstorming finals outfit...and don't manipulate and misquote my comments in an underhanded way to suit your question like you normally do ::)
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Rumours jacko nominated for the draft
Might be worth a 2nd round pick :shh
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Time for these youngish.. Tigers to step up.
Ellis, Astbury, Grimes, Conca, Vickery, Griffiths, Batchelor, Vlastuin, Dea, Elton, McBean, McDonough, McIntosh, Lloyd & Gordon.
Swim or sink, it's out of the nest time.
Agree. Critical that these players progress.
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Crawley (frawley, even) and Christianson would of assisted this progression
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We don't exactly have a great bunch of picks in the draft either lol
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We don't exactly have a great bunch of picks in the draft either lol
12
40
60
80
We should do great
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12, 33, 52, 70, 88, 106, 124
Bingo!
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88 going to be especially special is my mail :shh
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lol
bookmarked :cheers
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You been on the shrooms Owl ?
Just havin' a little convo with yourself on this thread ;D
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they said he automatically got extra $$ (a small allowance) for being the number 1 pick. :o
I think there is a sliding scale, each of the top 10 get a bonus for the extra media etc they do.
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Cooney to DrugCheats for #37
cooney would of been less soft than houli in the backline, or less poo than grigg in the middle
kiren harper to richmond rumors
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Cooney to DrugCheats for #37
cooney would of been less soft than houli in the backline, or less poo than grigg in the middle
And more time in rehab than Knights.
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2 mins to go.
Only the Lowden & Cheney deals are expected.
Possibly Harper according to Brett Anderson.
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And that's all folks!
Nothing from the Tigers.
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And that's all folks!
Nothing from the Tigers.
Stuffing idiots. Don't have the capability of upgrading our position in the draft and/or list.
Morons
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Hunt or Robinson dfa. Moneyball here we come woohoo!
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Cooney to DrugCheats for #37
cooney would of been less soft than houli in the backline, or less poo than grigg in the middle
And more time in rehab than Knights.
Would rather ten cooney gamed than 20 grigg games
Just saying
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Saw this comment on the club Facebook feed.
By: Shano Anthony
"My point in my post is Geelong and North were active (regardless of the players they lost or gained) and have 4 picks before we have our 4th. So our argument to retain our picks to take advantage of a Deep Draft is illogical when other clubs that have finished above us have traded and gain picks ahead of us in this deep draft. makes no sense."
From: https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
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That makes no sense why would we trade in players that were effectively worse than our Delistings, Biggs, jacksh, whiley , hallohan , golly we dipped out there ::)
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Thanks WP, sorry didn't realise you had to link to facebook comments.
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The players who may still switch clubs
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
October 16, 2014
FOR THOSE players who failed to find a new home during the NAB AFL Trade Period, there are still multiple chances left to continue their careers in 2015.
From November 1-12, players who have been cut adrift can be signed by the club of their choice in the first delisted free agent window.
There is a second window from November 14-19 and a third from November 28 to December 1, immediately after the 2014 NAB AFL Draft.
The traditional way for players to find a new home – in the era before free agency – was via the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft, which this year will be held electronically on Wednesday, December 3.
Only those clubs with list space remaining can take part in the pre-season draft, with Jed Lamb the only player selected (by GWS) in last year's PSD.
This year's crop of hopefuls would be expected to find their way to new clubs as delisted free agents if they attract interest.
There are a number of players, however, who may head to the pre-season draft after trade negotiations between clubs proved fruitless.
Tim Membrey
The Sydney Swans forward is guaranteed to make his way to St Kilda, most likely through the PSD, after a trade couldn't be arranged. The Swans' first live selection in the draft is pick No.39, so St Kilda needed to offer a pick higher than that to immediately land Membrey.
Taylor Hunt
Squeezed out at Geelong, a trade couldn't be orchestrated for the run-with midfielder once it was telegraphed that he would be available as a delisted free agent. It is unclear whether he will find another home after 63 matches with the Cats.
Mitch Robinson
Another player who was clearly not going to be at his club in 2015, making him a delisted free agent prospect from early in the trade period. Clubs weren't going to hand over compensation to Carlton once they knew they could secure Robinson for free. That being said, there has been little interest in the midfielder.
Kane Lucas
Labelled a wanted player by Carlton early in the trade period, the out-of-contract midfielder is now without a guaranteed home for 2015. Lucas explored opportunities and was linked to both WA clubs, but they weren't prepared to trade for him. Could find a new home as a delisted free agent if the Blues don't re-contract him.
George Burbury
The Geelong forward attracted little interest in the trade period after briefly being linked to West Coast early in the piece. Managed just seven games with the Cats, suffering a broken jaw during the 2014 NAB Cup and a serious hamstring injury early in the season.
Jason Tutt
The speedster flagged his intention to leave the Western Bulldogs in the lead-up to the trade period but Thursday's 2pm deadline passed without any movement. Carlton is confident it can secure the 23-year-old via the pre-season draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-16/no-direction-home
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Saw this comment on the club Facebook feed.
By: Shano Anthony
"My point in my post is Geelong and North were active (regardless of the players they lost or gained) and have 4 picks before we have our 4th. So our argument to retain our picks to take advantage of a Deep Draft is illogical when other clubs that have finished above us have traded and gain picks ahead of us in this deep draft. makes no sense."
From: https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
LOL we have to cite ass holes on facebook now like they are stuffing peer reviewed experts LOL
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Saw this comment on the club Facebook feed.
By: Shano Anthony
"My point in my post is Geelong and North were active (regardless of the players they lost or gained) and have 4 picks before we have our 4th. So our argument to retain our picks to take advantage of a Deep Draft is illogical when other clubs that have finished above us have traded and gain picks ahead of us in this deep draft. makes no sense."
From: https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
LOL we have to cite ass holes on facebook now like they are stuffing peer reviewed experts LOL
ok owl
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Ramps, im laughing at the citation I couldn't give 2 poos about any of the whiney rubbish, I tuned that out ages ago, im deaf to it, it is incessant, the facebook citation is however hilarious
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:cheers
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If Taylor hunt is a tagger, can't be worse than grigg
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I thought burbery could play - what happened?
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I thought burbery could play - what happened?
Conflict of interest on his female trench coat business. I hear it does alright.
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If Taylor hunt is a tagger, can't be worse than grigg
Everyone is better than Shaun Grigg!
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Saw this comment on the club Facebook feed.
By: Shano Anthony
"My point in my post is Geelong and North were active (regardless of the players they lost or gained) and have 4 picks before we have our 4th. So our argument to retain our picks to take advantage of a Deep Draft is illogical when other clubs that have finished above us have traded and gain picks ahead of us in this deep draft. makes no sense."
From: https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
LOL we have to cite ass holes on facebook now like they are stuffing peer reviewed experts LOL
That's my Arsebook comment. >:(
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Saw this comment on the club Facebook feed.
By: Shano Anthony
"My point in my post is Geelong and North were active (regardless of the players they lost or gained) and have 4 picks before we have our 4th. So our argument to retain our picks to take advantage of a Deep Draft is illogical when other clubs that have finished above us have traded and gain picks ahead of us in this deep draft. makes no sense."
From: https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
LOL we have to cite ass holes on facebook now like they are stuffing peer reviewed experts LOL
That's my Arsebook comment. >:(
LOL im sorry Tigs!
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Good comment though.
Why can't you post that calibre of stuff instead of the dribble you dish up here?
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Better teams have the expendable depth to trade average players for higher draft pick whereas our average players would get us peanuts. Doesn't help when you don't at least shop them around to see what you can get :banghead
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If Taylor hunt is a tagger, can't be worse than grigg
Does he avg 20+ possies a game in his senior games ::)
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Stats don't mean a lot these days
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Good comment though.
Why can't you post that calibre of stuff instead of the dribble you dish up here?
Don't wanna show your good self up to be totally honest. :shh
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Stats don't mean a lot these days
They do when one player has 5 touches a game and the other 25 ::)
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Good comment though.
Why can't you post that calibre of stuff instead of the dribble you dish up here?
Don't wanna show your good self up to be totally honest. :shh
:shh
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For me the litmus test for RFC is 2105.In my opinion this year will determine the fate of the coach and a large chunk of the list.Therefore despite 2014 being a season of extremes I am quite prepared to give the RFC the benefit of any doubt.However should the club produce anything akin to the first half of 2014,then heads will be called for .The club has now set the bar quite high therefore it needs to deliver.
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For me the litmus test for RFC is 2105.In my opinion this year will determine the fate of the coach and a large chunk of the list.Therefore despite 2014 being a season of extremes I am quite prepared to give the RFC the benefit of any doubt.However should the club produce anything akin to the first half of 2014,then heads will be called for .The club has now set the bar quite high therefore it needs to deliver.
agreed G. Hopefully we'll see the continued improvement in Griff and Batch and see players like Dea, Arnott and McBean step up. Bottom 6 needs to improve a lot
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For me the litmus test for RFC is 2105.In my opinion this year will determine the fate of the coach and a large chunk of the list.Therefore despite 2014 being a season of extremes I am quite prepared to give the RFC the benefit of any doubt.However should the club produce anything akin to the first half of 2014,then heads will be called for .The club has now set the bar quite high therefore it needs to deliver.
agreed G. Hopefully we'll see the continued improvement in Griff and Batch and see players like Dea, Arnott and McBean step up. Bottom 6 needs to improve a lot
Yep agree with both of you
I also think that as 2015 rolls on if we still have certain blokes (eg Newman) in the first 22 then it means those bottom 6 and a couple of others (eg McIntosh) either aren't coming on how I am expecting them too or they are not getting opportunities
And I hope for our Clubs sake it isn't the latter
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Its time the Bean,Arnott,Dea,and a few others declared themselves present.
it goes without saying that TY,Griff,need to also step up another level
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Some interesting de-listing today
Down at Geelong Taylor Hunt, Mitch Brown and Joel Hamling have been given the chop
At Carlton Mitch Robinson, Kane Lucas and Brock McLean all goneskis.
All players de-listed can be signed as Free agents once the next stage of free agency opens
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M brown > chaplin
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So keen on Hunt to boot Grigg out and take his run with role that he did. It was only last year they were banging on how well Hunt can tag and then win his own footy the other way. Don't know why he fell out of the side, if that was just a one off, flash in the pan season or he got injured, but age and type would fit our side just nice IMO. We could do with some more mongrel. No better chance than to pick him up for absolutely nothing.
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Some interesting de-listing today
Down at Geelong Taylor Hunt, Mitch Brown and Joel Hamling have been given the chop
At Carlton Mitch Robinson, Kane Lucas and Brock McLean all goneskis.
All players de-listed can be signed as Free agents once the next stage of free agency opens
Would take Robinson if we could delist Petterd, Grigg, Batchelor or Houli. All not needed IMO
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Hunt or Robinson would be an upgrade on Grigg...I'd just go Hunt for his pace.
Brown would provide needed depth for the backline though I'd only take him as a rookie, especially if we don't we re-rookie Darrou...not sure but think we'd also have to go with a 39-5 list instead of 38-6 if we grabbed one of Hunt or Robinson as a DFA - too bad we're continuing to waste a rookie spot on Thomarse the Tortoise.
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
Yes but they're all signed up so we can't. In "natural improvement", no injuries and picks 12, 33, 52 & 70 we trust.
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
Yes but they're all signed up so we can't. In "natural improvement", no injuries and picks 12, 33, 52 & 70 we trust.
We can rookie any one of them if nobody drafts them in the ND or PSD.
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
Yes but they're all signed up so we can't. In "natural improvement", no injuries and picks 12, 33, 52 & 70 we trust.
We can rookie any one of them if nobody drafts them in the ND or PSD.
Would be great but big "if" for Hunt in particular I reckon, Robinson will only be overlooked if clubs can't get past his off-field reputation, Brown - maybe. Tutt's pace would be handy but think Carlton are heavily into him. Would rather use the rookie list mainly for kids or state leaguers like Shane Nelson & Darcy Cameron anyway....though wouldn't be against Blease for his pace, think he might last to the RD - would at the very least be an upgrade on Banfield, though that's not really saying much, still rather take a kid if it was a toss up.
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My dislike for grigg is such I'd take hunt @ 52
Brown in the rookie draft would be tidy
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Was got to ask about people's thoughts on Brown, thought a rookie spot would be a good option
Word is Robinson will be signed by Brisbane as a FA
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Was got to ask about people's thoughts on Brown, thought a rookie spot would be a good option
Word is Robinson will be signed by Brisbane as a FA
fev mk II will end in tears
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Josh Simpson's just been delisted by Freo.
Essendon supporter on BF (yeah, yeah) reckons we're interested Coburg KPD and ex-Collingwood listed NSWscholarship player, Michael Hartley.
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Josh Simpson's just been delisted by Freo.
Essendon supporter on BF (yeah, yeah) reckons we're interested Coburg KPD and ex-Collingwood listed NSWscholarship player, Michael Hartley.
Nepotism?
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Josh Simpson's just been delisted by Freo.
Essendon supporter on BF (yeah, yeah) reckons we're interested Coburg KPD and ex-Collingwood listed NSWscholarship player, Michael Hartley.
Nepotism?
Well, since FJ's son Daniel has retired....
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Josh Simpson's just been delisted by Freo.
Essendon supporter on BF (yeah, yeah) reckons we're interested Coburg KPD and ex-Collingwood listed NSWscholarship player, Michael Hartley.
Nepotism?
Well, since FJ's son Daniel has retired....
;D
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My dislike for grigg is such I'd take hunt @ 52
Brown in the rookie draft would be tidy
Johnathon brown wouldn't play for rookie wages :lol
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Hardingham just delisted. Poster on Big Footy noted that he'd be an upgrade on the suicide blonde currently in the BP and I'm inclined to agree, though I'd still pass - especially if he's one of the Windy Hill 34. Also a year older than Morris as well.
Strauss & as expected Blease have just been given the flick from Melbourne officially. As I said before, wouldn't object to rookie-ing (is that even a word?) the latter for his pace and as an upgrade on Banfumbles.
Another wag on BF reckoned Ricky McLean's just been seen down at Punt Road. - he ended the post with a "LMAO" so not sure if a joke or just laughing at the possible implications.
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Weren't we keen on Blease in his draft year?
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Weren't we keen on Blease in his draft year?
Yes we were.
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Latest chatter from BF:
Poster "matt_y106" reckons he can confirm we've spoken not only to Blease but also to Northern Blues B&F winner and small forward Tom Wilson.
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Latest chatter from BF:
Poster "matt_y106" reckons he can confirm we've spoken not only to Blease but also to Northern Blues B&F winner and small forward Tom Wilson.
Probably need to supply a link hombre :shh
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Here ya go:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-dfa-talk-part-ii-picks-12-33-52-70-88-miles.1080191/page-18
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Here ya go:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2014-draft-dfa-talk-part-ii-picks-12-33-52-70-88-miles.1080191/page-18
I was jk, :thumbsup but spanks anyways I might read it now :laugh:
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Latest chatter from BF:
Poster "matt_y106" reckons he can confirm we've spoken not only to Blease but also to Northern Blues B&F winner and small forward Tom Wilson.
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/05/18/287444.jpg)
http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=Tom%20Wilson
Name: Thomas Wilson
D.O.B: 16/05/1992 (22 years old)
Height: 176cm
Weight: 78kg
Recruited from: Eastern Ranges/Vermont.
2014 stats: http://www.sportingpulse.com/nfnn/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192159072&client=1-118-10464-294689-20320225&ocompID=294689 (http://www.sportingpulse.com/nfnn/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192159072&client=1-118-10464-294689-20320225&ocompID=294689)
Northern Blues B&F: http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/512-nbfc-wilson-crowned-laurie-hill-trophy-winner.html
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Essendon supporter on BF (yeah, yeah) reckons we're interested Coburg KPD and ex-Collingwood listed NSWscholarship player, Michael Hartley.
(http://coburgfc.com.au/images/players/Michael-Hartley.jpg)(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/06/23/1226964/085942-4a454506-fa0e-11e3-94a6-266deb5ccac3.jpg)
Name: Michael Hartley
D.O.B.: 07/06/1993 (Age 21)
Height: 196cm
Weight: 102cm
Recruited From: Sydney University/Collingwood (VFL)
Hails from Penrith, NSW, where he was joined Collingwood's development program as an NSW Scholarship player at the age of 14. An athletic key defender who has excelled in a range of sports, including cricket, basketball and athletics.
2008: Signed by Collingwood as a NSW Scholarship player while playing for the Penrith Swans as a 14-year-old.
2011: Represented NSW at the 2011 U18 National Championships where he successfully blanketed Greater Western Sydney’s No. 1 draft pick Jonathon Patton. Played in four of the last five games of the VFL season for Collingwood where he impressed as a key defender wearing the guernsey No. 52. Rookie listed by Collingwood with selection No. 87 in the Rookie Draft.
2013: Poor Hartley’s wretched run with shoulder injuries continued in 2013. The former NSW Scholarship holder could manage only one VFL pre-season practice match and one VFL senior game as a result of his troublesome joints. He played his first match since last June against the Northern Blues at Visy Park in March and began well, taking a great contested pack mark on the wing in the second quarter. But he was down the race before half time after re-injuring his shoulder and was sentenced to another spell on the sidelines. He finally made it back for Collingwood’s round 10 meeting with Coburg at Victoria Park when he managed three disposals, two marks, three tackles and two inside 50s as well as taking a heavy blow to the face. Unfortunately, his shoulders let him down again and he was sent off to hospital to have them repaired. That match against the Tigers marked his final game for the club after two years on the rookie list.
Consider this: Hartley could manage only five senior VFL games in his two years on the list, although he managed a further four while still on the NSW scholarship list at the end of 2011.
VIDEO: .com.au/video?guid=594960
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/player-profile/michael-hartley
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2013-11-04/player-review-no-47-michael-hartley
2014:
Senior Games: 20
2014 Games: 15
2014 Goals: 1
Total Games: 24
Total Goals: 1
http://coburgfc.com.au/players.html
2014 Stats: http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192119622&client=1-3020-111720-294692-20320253&ocompID=294692 (http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192119622&client=1-3020-111720-294692-20320253&ocompID=294692)
2014 State Combine: In the running vertical jump, Hartley produced one of the best jumps of the day with 88cm, seeing him feature in the top 10 for the National and State Combines.
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=31835035
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He has his shoulder, knee and thumb strapped. Delist.
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Is also trying to slam dunk the ball through the goals. Has no idea.
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And he is not looking at the camera and is wearing a watch in the top photo, cannot even be considered.
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Related to Blair?
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GEELONG is interested in securing former Melbourne speedster Sam Blease as a delisted free agent.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-23/blease-may-please-cats
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Good
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Related to Blair?
Blair didn't come from NSW.
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Stop the press!!
Taylor Petrenko off to West Coast for 320k.
Sack Francis and Blair, we've missed another big fish, this is the last straw!!!
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Some golden mail from your good mate again Wayne? ;D
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From 'Rusty Trombone on BF:
Ok guys here's what I've heard , we are only interested in Hardingham as a rookie but there is strong interest from Freo and West Coast because that's his home town. I'll let you know when I hear more.
So my source directly from the club is telling me that today we are getting closer although yesterday we seemed far away . He really wants to play in WA with both Freo and West coast offering him rookie spots but he'd stay and play for us if we drafted him to the list proper or if we rookie him with the promise of promotion which my source once again " directly from the club" has told me is what we offered Thomas last year so he wouldn't go to Carlton. Hence it didn't matter how well Miles played in the NAB Cup he was never going to be promoted over Thomas.
Hardingham is ours if we want him bad enough.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015.1080182/page-16#post-35844778
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Why would they get him ?
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
only several anna montana.
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
Yes but they're all signed up so we can't. In "natural improvement", no injuries and picks 12, 33, 52 & 70 we trust.
We can rookie any one of them if nobody drafts them in the ND or PSD.
Would be great but big "if" for Hunt in particular I reckon, Robinson will only be overlooked if clubs can't get past his off-field reputation, Brown - maybe. Tutt's pace would be handy but think Carlton are heavily into him. Would rather use the rookie list mainly for kids or state leaguers like Shane Nelson & Darcy Cameron anyway....though wouldn't be against Blease for his pace, think he might last to the RD - would at the very least be an upgrade on Banfield, though that's not really saying much, still rather take a kid if it was a toss up.
ah darcy cameron reckon he will get taken in nd. hope we are looking with a late nd pick or early rookie pick.
cameron loerscht was one i was hoping i could produce as a smokie from sth freo. unfortunately the afl did a piece on him.
lovely big ruckman 203/102, 20/10/95 19 yr old ruckman, played 4 ressie games this yr and kicked 57 goals in the colts.. would be a great rookie pick imo.can mark and is a good mover for his size.
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
only several anna montana.
yes and Gwilt aint one of them
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
only several anna montana.
yes and Gwilt aint one of them
But compare his record :lol
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:shh
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
only several anna montana.
yes and Gwilt aint one of them
But compare his record :lol
yes lets ;)
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There are several that have been delisted that I'd take before half a dozen of our current list
only several anna montana.
yes and Gwilt aint one of them
thats okay by me anna. but weather you want him or not hes a proven better player than many on our list by some margin.
id like to know when exactly did incremental improvement become unfashionable. oh thats right it hardly got started before we reverted back to what we have always done for 30 yrs.
grigg and houli were improvements. some of us argued from the start they were inprovements that would need upgrading in time.
gwilt would be a pretty decent improvement by some margin on what we have and like grigg and houli he would have cost nothing.
if not gwilt how about cheney or lumumba.any one of these would have been a massive upgrade on what we have.
ah well for some i suppose the backline is fantastic and we dont need to improve it.
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Gwilt :lol
Keep em coming Claw!
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Gwilt :lol
Keep em coming Claw!
no probs willy. ive always been prepared to back in my own judgement regardless of what the crowd says.
i mean to say in recent yrs alone last two or three ive advocated chappie, goddard, martin,martin, odwyer, moloney, and now frawley, garlett and gwilt, add hallahan to that list. kyle cheney for us would have been a good fit. i didnt realise he was on the table until after it was done. harry obrien yes please even with the baggage. none of em cost a thing or very little. wanted us to go hard at mcgovern and sinclair at the eagles,hannath was a pick of mine still a work in progress all in recent seasons.
i keep on putting it out there and all i cop on a regular basis is ridicule. well time is and will be the judge.
that was the good in fairness theres two or 3 duds i wanted as well. i wont name em as people around here need little invitation to put the boot in.
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I think Gwilt was an ordinary footballer (I remember calling his turnover against the cats in the gf before it happened) he's now become and ordinary and injury plagued player that the bottom side in the AFL don't want.
I do applaud you making a call though Craw and actually hope you get it right just to stick it up the posters having a crack at you ;D
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Have to agree with claw, gwilt is better than anything we've got
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Some golden mail from your good mate again Wayne? ;D
:d
I don't work with him anymore, but I always get kept up to date with his nostradamus like accuracy.
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Gwilt :lol
Keep em coming Claw!
no probs willy. ive always been prepared to back in my own judgement regardless of what the crowd says.
i mean to say in recent yrs alone last two or three ive advocated chappie, goddard, martin,martin, odwyer, moloney, and now frawley, garlett and gwilt, add hallahan to that list. kyle cheney for us would have been a good fit. i didnt realise he was on the table until after it was done. harry obrien yes please even with the baggage. none of em cost a thing or very little. wanted us to go hard at mcgovern and sinclair at the eagles,hannath was a pick of mine still a work in progress all in recent seasons.
i keep on putting it out there and all i cop on a regular basis is ridicule. well time is and will be the judge.
that was the good in fairness theres two or 3 duds i wanted as well. i wont name em as people around here need little invitation to put the boot in.
I can cop Harry O, still a pretty good player and an upgrade on Houli but is a massive flog. I could usually overlook it if he was a good player but he is just a complete knob. It would be hard to barrack for that guy.
Cheney is ok Claw, nothing special, plays tall but isn't himself. Better than Batch yes but only just. Houli is a completely different playerso no point comparing.
But Gwilt is done mate. Forget about his record, he is washed up. If you are picking guys on record, I'll take Johno Brown, but again his body is done.
Enough about Gwilt mate. You make sense most of the time :thumbsup but the Gwilt thing is going you no favors.
And for the record I do remember you saying Tom Lee would be a good rookie the year before he was drafted by The Saints.
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Collins > grigg
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Collins > grigg
Nope
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I'd take Collins in a fwd pocket over grigg on a wing
As I would Mitch Morton.
Probably dean limbach too
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Collins > grigg
Nope
x2
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Collins > grigg
Nope
x2
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Probably just a wind up but this was posted on BF today:
I saw [Brock] McLean having coffee with Dimma and Richardson on swan street. And so did tigs2010 and _EAD_ and not one of us are trolls
Saw McLean running laps at Punt Road in a Tiger singlet yesterday.
I was told last week that Richmond are looking to get McLean for our VFL team, Not sure if it will happen or not but pretty sure he still wants to see if he can get on a AFL list. Probably will ut after the rookie draft
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-the-one-with-the-empty-warchest.1080182/page-18
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Probably just a wind up but this was posted on BF today:
I saw [Brock] McLean having coffee with Dimma and Richardson on swan street. And so did tigs2010 and _EAD_ and not one of us are trolls
Saw McLean running laps at Punt Road in a Tiger singlet yesterday.
I was told last week that Richmond are looking to get McLean for our VFL team, Not sure if it will happen or not but pretty sure he still wants to see if he can get on a AFL list. Probably will ut after the rookie draft
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-the-one-with-the-empty-warchest.1080182/page-18
Another BF poster said Ricky was seen at Punt Road the other day.....though seeing he is a past Richmond player, not sure what he was trying to imply unless he is his nephew's manager or something...
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Probably just a wind up but this was posted on BF today:
I saw [Brock] McLean having coffee with Dimma and Richardson on swan street. And so did tigs2010 and _EAD_ and not one of us are trolls
Saw McLean running laps at Punt Road in a Tiger singlet yesterday.
I was told last week that Richmond are looking to get McLean for our VFL team, Not sure if it will happen or not but pretty sure he still wants to see if he can get on a AFL list. Probably will ut after the rookie draft
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/blair-hartley-project-2015-the-one-with-the-empty-warchest.1080182/page-18
I was definitely taking the pee
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:lol
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Don't think tigs has made a serious post on BF since he & Groupie Phil started like whoring....as well as trying to outdo DBF in giving them out...
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Don't think tigs has made a serious post on BF since he & Groupie Phil started like whoring....as well as trying to outdo DBF in giving them out...
I made one the other day about Trengove faking injury when he realized he'd become our new whipping boy. >:(
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Don't think tigs has made a serious post on BF since he & Groupie Phil started like whoring....as well as trying to outdo DBF in giving them out...
I made one the other day about Trengove faking injury when he realized he'd become our new whipping boy. >:(
...and I would've liked it if I was on there....
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Don't think tigs has made a serious post on BF since he & Groupie Phil started like whoring....as well as trying to outdo DBF in giving them out...
I made one the other day about Trengove faking injury when he realized he'd become our new whipping boy. >:(
...and I would've liked it if I was on there....
You let me down.
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I take McLean in place of Thomas any day. Worth a rookie.
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Ruck Hampson
Ruck rover Grigg
Center Thomas
Rover McLean
:shh
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I'd play McLean in the ruck before Hampson.
I'd play Tony Liberatore in the ruck before Hampson.
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I'd play McLean in the ruck before Hampson.
I'd play Tony Liberatore in the ruck before Hampson.
What about Jake King?
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Certainly.
And Mickey Rooney.
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We're not linked to any of the delisted free agents according to the Age & Herald-Sun.
Sam Blease - Carlton & Hawthorn.
Taylor Hunt - West Coast.
Mitch Robinson - Brisbane.
Kane Lucas - WA clubs.
Shaun McKernan - ?
Ben Newton - ?
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/which-delisted-free-agents-are-the-best-chance-of-earning-an-afl-lifeline-in-the-upcoming-drafts/story-fndv7pj3-1227102685259
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/secondchance-saloon-the-afl-delisted-free-agents-hoping-for-another-go-20141026-11c58c.html
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Jay Clark @ClarkyHeraldSun 4 hours ago
"Brock McLean will not be a Tiger next season. Rule it out."
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/with_replies
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No brock but maybe Mitch by the sounds of it
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Jay Clark @ClarkyHeraldSun 4 hours ago
"Brock McLean will not be a Tiger next season. Rule it out."
https://twitter.com/ClarkyHeraldSun/with_replies
Good
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No brock but maybe Mitch by the sounds of it
Are you hearing that G, I haven t had any mail other than there's been more planning than D day for this coming draft .....expect our guru FJ to pull a few surprises.......again :shh
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No brock but maybe Mitch by the sounds of it
Are you hearing that G, I haven t had any mail other than there's been more planning than D day for this coming draft .....expect our guru FJ to pull a few surprises.......again :shh
Like Conca over Heppel?
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No brock but maybe Mitch by the sounds of it
Are you hearing that G, I haven t had any mail other than there's been more planning than D day for this coming draft .....expect our guru FJ to pull a few surprises.......again :shh
Like Conca over Heppel?
Like dustin martin, not expected to go until well into the draft :shh
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Rubbish. Martin was predicted as a top 5 lock. Stevens and Quayle both had him going to us at 3.
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No brock but maybe Mitch by the sounds of it
Are you hearing that G, I haven t had any mail other than there's been more planning than D day for this coming draft .....expect our guru FJ to pull a few surprises.......again :shh
Like Conca over Heppel?
Like dustin martin, not expected to go until well into the draft :shh
:lol :lol :lol
I'll have what he's having :lol
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Martin was always rated as top four in his draft pool.
So much so, roos tried trade two high draft picks for three, to get him. As he knew Melb wanted scully/trngrove
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:shh
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Martin was always rated as top four in his draft pool.
So much so, roos tried trade two high draft picks for three, to get him. As he knew Melb wanted scully/trngrove
Yeah of course he did ::)
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Martin was always rated as top four in his draft pool.
So much so, roos tried trade two high draft picks for three, to get him. As he knew Melb wanted scully/trngrove
Yeah of course he did ::)
He did - it's common knowledge.
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Martin was always rated as top four in his draft pool.
So much so, roos tried trade two high draft picks for three, to get him. As he knew Melb wanted scully/trngrove
Yeah of course he did ::)
He did - it's common knowledge.
my understanding is it was picks 6 and 14 that they offered up.
there were 4 standouts in that draft. i mean 4 who were head and shoulders in front of the pack at the time of the draft.. morabito, martin, scully and trengove.
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Where is The Big Richo when you need him?
He unearthed Martin when he was 11.
Kept him under wraps at his house till the night before the draft.
We have TBR to thank for all of this👍
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Where is The Big Richo when you need him?
He unearthed Martin when he was 11.
Kept him under wraps at his house till the night before the draft.
We have TBR to thank for all of this👍
I miss the big man. We need his input here.
Probably off chasing the netball mums....
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Heppel younger brother is much better ;D
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Heppel younger brother is much better ;D
Than TBR? I think not
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Essendon signing up Cooney, and the extra $$$ they are paying him, could force Chapman out and onto the free agency market.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/paul-chapmans-future-at-essendon-in-doubt-as-contract-talks-break-down/story-e6frf3e3-1227116933112
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Essendon signing up Cooney, and the extra $$$ they are paying him, could force Chapman out and onto the free agency market.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/paul-chapmans-future-at-essendon-in-doubt-as-contract-talks-break-down/story-e6frf3e3-1227116933112
Dont want to go the sliding doors route... but honestly what do you expect dealing with the bombres
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Chapman wanted to go to the Bombers because of Thompson.
If Thompson isn't there he won't want to stay IMHO.
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Oh I totally understand
Just the irony of it all, can imagine the way essendon official promise everything
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Where is The Big Richo when you need him?
He unearthed Martin when he was 11.
Kept him under wraps at his house till the night before the draft.
We have TBR to thank for all of this👍
I'm gonna have to get them to fix the TBR light in the sky.
If I recall correctly Melbourne who had picks 1 and 2 never even spoke to Dusty, so certain were they of Scully and Trengove so he was always a lock for three.
He spoke to about a dozen other clubs but the advice from 11 of them was they were 100% sure he was going to Richmond but always touch base with any player they would like to draft if possible.
I remember one of the interstate clubs asked him if he was dumb.
I reckon Richmond told him they were taking him unless Melbourne did about 2 days before the draft.
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Oi, that's all very we'll and good but tell us about the Wing Attack from Vermont South
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Oi, that's all very we'll and good but tell us about the Wing Attack from Vermont South
Unhappy marriage, kids all at school so plenty of free time, rig in good order.
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Oi, that's all very we'll and good but tell us about the Wing Attack from Vermont South
Unhappy marriage, kids all at school so plenty of free time, rig in good order.
I sometimes think I'm living out my younger years through the great man......
Keep an eye out for squat rot and it's all good Cho :bow
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Where is The Big Richo when you need him?
He unearthed Martin when he was 11.
Kept him under wraps at his house till the night before the draft.
We have TBR to thank for all of this👍
I'm gonna have to get them to fix the TBR light in the sky.
If I recall correctly Melbourne who had picks 1 and 2 never even spoke to Dusty, so certain were they of Scully and Trengove so he was always a lock for three.
He spoke to about a dozen other clubs but the advice from 11 of them was they were 100% sure he was going to Richmond but always touch base with any player they would like to draft if possible.
I remember one of the interstate clubs asked him if he was dumb.
I reckon Richmond told him they were taking him unless Melbourne did about 2 days before the draft.
That was Choco when at port who asked Dusty if he was dumb
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In all seriousness I'd be having a look at this Lambert bloke from Williamstown. He's only about 22 ( I think ) and he's had a great year. Was superb last week in their huge comeback win. Wins his own ball and has good skills.
Don't often quote myself but it's good to see the tiger heirarchy read and act on my posts on OER :thumbsup
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Well called Dice lol
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nice pick up. Maybe he might turn into something after all. Id take your view over hackson's any day
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Well called Dice lol
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While we're at it, I chose McKenzie and Castagna in my phantom draft for the skunks, good to see the club following my lead. :clapping RFCO PM me details of start date, I'll take the job.