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Title: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on January 13, 2010, 10:51:22 PM
Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from this time last year

    * Sam Edmund
    * From: Herald Sun
    * January 14, 2010



RICHMOND is staring down the barrel of a $1 million shortfall, with its membership levels sagging.

The Tigers are down 5400 members on the same time last year, when Ben Cousins joined the club and generated enormous interest.

The membership vacuum this month equates to more than $1 million in club revenue.

Richmond officials are confident the numbers will improve, pointing out memberships went on sale two weeks later than normal and that the excitement with Cousins' arrival was always going to be impossible to match.

Chief executive Brendon Gale yesterday urged Tigers fans to stick with the yellow and black.

"We exist for our members. To have 37,000 members (in 2009) and to have not won a premiership since 1980 says a lot about the loyalty of the Richmond faithful," Gale said. "We want them to stay on this journey with us."

Last January Richmond had signed more than 23,500 members in what was a boom summer for the club.

The Tigers were even flooded with membership inquiries from West Australians eager to follow Cousins' return to football and the 2009 membership total of 36,985 smashed all records.

But the novelty has worn off after a disappointing season in which the Tigers finished 15th.

Terry Wallace was sacked as coach, Kane Johnson, Joel Bowden and favourite son Matthew Richardson retired and veterans Nathan Brown and Mark Coughlan were among nine players axed following a tumultuous season.

As of yesterday, the Tigers had 18,100 members. But Gale said he was buoyed by the fact 1000 of those were new.

"We operate in a competitive environment," Gale said. "Clearly we underperformed last season. This year is a year of transformation on and off the field. We've got a clearly defined game plan that we believe will deliver sustained success and there's been a huge turnover at the club over summer."

Gale was excited by Richardson's decision to split his first year of retirement between media commitments and a commercial operations role at the club.

"He's going to have to come to work in a suit every day and get his hands dirty," Gale said. "It's a serious job with serious responsibilities. He has bled for this club over many years and he's a passionate Richmond person."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-faces-1m-hole-after-5400-members-fall-off-from-this-time-last-year/story-e6frf9io-1225818990954
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on January 13, 2010, 10:59:17 PM
Well I think the Cuz factor did influence the high membership numbers last year including West Aussies that just joined for thr Ben factor. I also think that a lot of others joined because they thought or had been led to believe that we would be in finals.

I don't care my whole family will continue to join every year.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: tiger till i die on January 13, 2010, 11:51:07 PM
maby the dip in membership is what the board needed.. whats the point if they expect us to keep being members and we keep being crap
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on January 14, 2010, 12:22:00 AM
this is the worst possible news.why because it leads to short cuts. i hope the club are prepared for a few more bottom lines financially and dont try for a quick fix. we all have seen what quick fixes have done for 27 yrs.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on January 14, 2010, 12:30:36 AM
this is the worst possible news.why because it leads to short cuts.

Don't really see the point here. Ben Cousins was arguably a short cut and he generated most of the extra numbers that have dropped off.
I can't see why anyone would be surprised by this reduction in numbers whatsoever. Particularly after last season's disaster.
Was always going to happen and I'd be amazed if the club hasn't taken this into consideration.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on January 14, 2010, 03:35:28 AM
We've gone back to around the 2008 membership figures for this time of year. We had 14,990 ticketed members on 16/01/2008 so that would be around the 18k mark if you include non-ticketed memberships.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tiggytam on January 14, 2010, 06:29:21 AM
I also think that a lot of others joined because they thought or had been led to believe that we would be in finals.

If people joined because of that fact they were delusional.  Every club has fickle supporters, once we get our act together and start performing they will come out of the woodwork like always.  Until then they will sit back and snipe away.

Everyone knew it was the Ben factor last year and would not carry over.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on January 14, 2010, 07:02:26 AM
Classic! Magic wrote the real story in his post but then who'd read that!
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 14, 2010, 07:16:28 AM
this is the worst possible news.why because it leads to short cuts.

Don't really see the point here. Ben Cousins was arguably a short cut and he generated most of the extra numbers that have dropped off.
I can't see why anyone would be surprised by this reduction in numbers whatsoever. Particularly after last season's disaster.
Was always going to happen and I'd be amazed if the club hasn't taken this into consideration.

Totally agree Magic

There was always going to be a drop in numbers this year simply because of the disaster that was 2009
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: wayne on January 14, 2010, 08:41:52 AM
If we can snare a few good wins early in the season and play an exciting brand of footy, then we'll make these numbers up.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Ekto on January 14, 2010, 08:51:37 AM
This article is just another example of the crap that the press dish up.

Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: RollsRoyce on January 14, 2010, 09:05:24 AM
This article is just another example of the crap that the press dish up.



Spot on Ekto. It's also an example of the delight the Hun in particular takes in sinking the boot into Richmond at every opportunity. So far this pre-season there's been just two articles about us.Troy Taylor's punch-up, and our membership shortfall. The suggestion of course being that we supporters are all just a fickle bunch of bandwagon jumpers.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on January 14, 2010, 09:33:59 AM
not surprising we are seeing a dip considering the extraordinary factors that fuelled LY meteoric rise. Those factors...as in coming off a promising year coupled with the recruitment of cuzz are absent this year...only some encouraging performances that underline the quality of this new group on and off field will help bridge the gap in 2010...and you know what, I reckon we will :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bushranger on January 14, 2010, 10:06:17 AM
I think along the lines of bojangles17.
With a couple of good early wins could make the difference to 2010.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: smasha on January 14, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Beating Carltank is our only hope.


stuff it.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 14, 2010, 11:25:21 AM
The Sun don't have the right figure. We had 21,000 members at the same time last year. We have 18,000 now, but we did start the membership campaign 2 weeks later than the year before. So it's no more than 3,000 difference and probably will be 1-2,000 difference in the end because of the later start to the campaign  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on January 14, 2010, 11:28:21 AM
Today is the 14th January

anyone think its abit early to be making these calls  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: smasha on January 14, 2010, 11:31:58 AM
Today is the 14th January

anyone think its abit early to be making these calls  ;)

Never too late for zieg HUN.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: 1965 on January 14, 2010, 11:35:07 AM
The Sun don't have the right figure. We had 21,000 members at the same time last year. We have 18,000 now, but we did start the membership campaign 2 weeks later than the year before. So it's no more than 3,000 difference and probably will be 1-2,000 difference in the end because of the later start to the campaign  :cheers


Welcome to OER MT2010.

'65
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 14, 2010, 11:42:01 AM
The Sun don't have the right figure. We had 21,000 members at the same time last year. We have 18,000 now, but we did start the membership campaign 2 weeks later than the year before. So it's no more than 3,000 difference and probably will be 1-2,000 difference in the end because of the later start to the campaign  :cheers


Welcome to OER MT2010.

'65


Thanks bro
PROG ON  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on January 14, 2010, 11:42:46 AM
No Richo could be having an impact too..
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 14, 2010, 11:46:37 AM
No Richo could be having an impact too..

It's ok. Damien Barret is just inflating the figures hehe. It's only 3,000 difference with 2 weeks less sales too  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 14, 2010, 08:13:26 PM
This article is just another example of the crap that the press dish up.



Spot on Ekto. It's also an example of the delight the Hun in particular takes in sinking the boot into Richmond at every opportunity. So far this pre-season there's been just two articles about us.Troy Taylor's punch-up, and our membership shortfall. The suggestion of course being that we supporters are all just a fickle bunch of bandwagon jumpers.

Disagree this time round

These sort of articles at this time of year are (in part) generated by the Clubs to jolt people into action about membership

I don't think you can say this article is "stinking the boots in". It is an accurate description of where the numbers sit right now. If they wanted to stick the boots in they wouldn't have quoted the Benny Gale about the importance of members

Reality is at the moment we are down 5k on last year. Even allowing for the fact the renewals went out late that would account for part of the decline but not all of it.

I am all for sinking the boots in the media but in this case this needed to be put out there and it is accurate and balanced

Bottom line is we need people to sign up

 
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on January 14, 2010, 08:27:14 PM
agreed, will do more good than harm, couldn't buy publicity like that...back page of HS....the ebst thing we can do for our membership campaign is really show a bit v the Hawks in tassie, might underline that there is some quality amongst the ranks
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on January 14, 2010, 08:41:52 PM
this is the worst possible news.why because it leads to short cuts.

Don't really see the point here. Ben Cousins was arguably a short cut and he generated most of the extra numbers that have dropped off.
I can't see why anyone would be surprised by this reduction in numbers whatsoever. Particularly after last season's disaster.
Was always going to happen and I'd be amazed if the club hasn't taken this into consideration.
hmm cuz generated all those numbers did he. i think not. i know the fact we got cousins an awful lot of people thought we were finals bound. an awful lot of people. the drop in numbers is because the penny has dropped and people now realise  we are no where near finals.
the point being made is for 27 yrs we have as a club bowed to things like this before, we know  those in charge have  trading away top picks  for mature players  because the bottom line is a bit shaky atm lets not see them do it again..

no more b/s the club should be openly saying we have a very young and immature list and our ladder position is likely to be low.
 they should be saying  l the onus for this club is to find and play young players who in time will get us to finals, ladder position means jack atm.
if our footy club is aiming at finals they are truly delusional. the list still needs another large cull.
 roughly 40 % of those player we took this yr will fail  but hey the membership numbers are down lets trade some early picks get a big name  give the supporters some false hope and get the numbers back up. i can see it coming a mile away.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on January 14, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
geez , you sound like that boofhead by same name on PRE...who's under any illusions we are finals bound after adding 14 new faces in 2010, axing every 200+ player on our list bar Cuz...get a grip before you post partner...sounds like you put the same broken record on Track 1...Todays gripe :whistle
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on January 14, 2010, 09:29:12 PM
geez , you sound like that boofhead by same name on PRE...who's under any illusions we are finals bound after adding 14 new faces in 2010, axing every 200+ player on our list bar Cuz...get a grip before you post partner...sounds like you put the same broken record on Track 1...Todays gripe :whistle
clearly supporters arent. but the the point being made is to get the numbers up the club may take short cuts. the club has an horrific  history of doing just that when the bottom line is  is in trouble. this drop in membership numbers  can be a bad thing if it puts pressure on the club to get membership numbers up and thus take short cuts or break from what ever new processes are in place.
Title: Tigers facing AFL membership shortfall (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on January 15, 2010, 06:11:26 AM
Tigers facing AFL membership shortfall
January 15, 2010
The Age


AFL club Richmond are facing a massive cash shortfall approaching $1 million due to their membership numbers being way down on last year.

The Tigers are almost 5,000 members short on their figures from last year, when the recruitment of Ben Cousins provided a membership surge before the Tigers endured a wretched 2009 and finished 15th.

Richmond's membership is currently 18,620, whereas 23,500 fans had signed up a year ago.

Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale was hopeful fans would renew their memberships in what looms as a new era for the club.

The Tigers will be led this year by new coach Damien Hardwick, while veteran players Matthew Richardson, Joel Bowden, Nathan Brown and Kane Johnson all departed last year.

Richmond said their membership shortfall was not too much of a concern given the spike caused by Cousins' signing was hard to match and that the club had started its membership drive a fortnight later than from the previous year.

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tigers-facing-afl-membership-shortfall-20100114-m9y3.html
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on January 15, 2010, 07:49:58 AM
I'd say willy p is on the money but how effective is this approach. People won't sign up because they are fed up with the poor running of the club. A newspaper article won't change many peoples opinion. It's a waste of newspaper print and casts our image in a poor light. We would probably sign up more members by having some players ring up lapsed members.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: wayne on January 15, 2010, 08:38:36 AM
clearly supporters arent. but the the point being made is to get the numbers up the club may take short cuts. the club has an horrific  history of doing just that when the bottom line is  is in trouble.

You'd really hope that they aren't that stupid and weren't budgeting on the same numbers after a 15th place in 2009.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: F0551L on January 15, 2010, 11:06:47 AM
the club has called me 3 times now about renewing my player b sponsorship each time i have replied that i am going to renew just getting the cash together  mmm that says to me they realise there is a shortfall from last season
Title: Re: Tigers facing AFL membership shortfall (Age)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 15, 2010, 11:59:46 AM
Tigers facing AFL membership shortfall
January 15, 2010
The Age


AFL club Richmond are facing a massive cash shortfall approaching $1 million due to their membership numbers being way down on last year.

The Tigers are almost 5,000 members short on their figures from last year, when the recruitment of Ben Cousins provided a membership surge before the Tigers endured a wretched 2009 and finished 15th.

Richmond's membership is currently 18,620, whereas 23,500 fans had signed up a year ago.

Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale was hopeful fans would renew their memberships in what looms as a new era for the club.

The Tigers will be led this year by new coach Damien Hardwick, while veteran players Matthew Richardson, Joel Bowden, Nathan Brown and Kane Johnson all departed last year.

Richmond said their membership shortfall was not too much of a concern given the spike caused by Cousins' signing was hard to match and that the club had started its membership drive a fortnight later than from the previous year.

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/tigers-facing-afl-membership-shortfall-20100114-m9y3.html

According to the membership counter, there were just over 22,000 combined members on the 16th jan 2009. Wonder how accurate the numbers are. Now they are saying 23,500 on that date? ;)
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on January 15, 2010, 01:18:57 PM
hmm cuz generated all those numbers did he. i think not. i know the fact we got cousins an awful lot of people thought we were finals bound. an awful lot of people. the drop in numbers is because the penny has dropped and people now realise  we are no where near finals.
Some of what you say may be true claw but you are kidding yourself if you believe Cousins recruitment did not have a massive impact on additional memberships in '09.

no more b/s the club should be openly saying we have a very young and immature list and our ladder position is likely to be low.
 they should be saying  l the onus for this club is to find and play young players who in time will get us to finals, ladder position means jack atm.

If you've been paying attention I think it's pretty clear that the club(Hardwick, March, Gale etc.) have left supporters under no false illusions that there are hard yards ahead. 'No shortcuts' has been a consistent theme over the off season. 14 new faces is a fair clean out in anyone's language. Only two clubs ever have had a bigger turnover in a single season. It's not just rhetoric this time, actions are doing the talking and the club is in a full swing rebuild.
You of all posters should be somewhat pleased..
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: torch on January 15, 2010, 01:46:12 PM
we could see this coming since last year.

all i will say is "please purchase a Membership."

i know i can not speak for everybody, and some believe it to be a waste of time and money if you can not attend some matches.

Kevin Sheedy since said "If you are not a Member, you are not a supporter!" - i truely believe that!

it is so important for the club.

my friend is going to get his dog a Pet Member!  :lol

i hope those who do not have a Membership can please get purchase one.

I Love Richmond, and as bad and horrible they can be, they are My Team.

Richmond is all about its supporters like B.Gale stated.

best of luck everybody!


P.S: i purchased mine Mid-Dec, when should i expect it to arrive?

 :)
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Francois Jackson on January 15, 2010, 02:05:24 PM
we could see this coming since last year.

all i will say is "please purchase a Membership."

i know i can not speak for everybody, and some believe it to be a waste of time and money if you can not attend some matches.

Kevin Sheedy since said "If you are not a Member, you are not a supporter!" - i truely believe that!

it is so important for the club.

my friend is going to get his dog a Pet Member!  :lol

i hope those who do not have a Membership can please get purchase one.

I Love Richmond, and as bad and horrible they can be, they are My Team.

Richmond is all about its supporters like B.Gale stated.

best of luck everybody!


P.S: i purchased mine Mid-Dec, when should i expect it to arrive?

 :)

yep i renewed both of mine this December.  :thumbsup

the only thing that will ever make me not renew my membership is a merger with another club. That happens its adios muchacho's for me
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on January 15, 2010, 04:32:19 PM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bushranger on January 15, 2010, 05:27:42 PM
we could see this coming since last year.

all i will say is "please purchase a Membership."

i know i can not speak for everybody, and some believe it to be a waste of time and money if you can not attend some matches.

Kevin Sheedy since said "If you are not a Member, you are not a supporter!" - i truely believe that!

it is so important for the club.

my friend is going to get his dog a Pet Member!  :lol

i hope those who do not have a Membership can please get purchase one.

I Love Richmond, and as bad and horrible they can be, they are My Team.

Richmond is all about its supporters like B.Gale stated.

best of luck everybody!


P.S: i purchased mine Mid-Dec, when should i expect it to arrive?

 :)
I have renewed my membership and made it a match day one, up from the On the Bench, or what ever it was called.
And there really isn't much hope of me getting to the games all to often but I don't care.
The quote above has said it all, and I agree.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on January 15, 2010, 06:12:08 PM
hmm cuz generated all those numbers did he. i think not. i know the fact we got cousins an awful lot of people thought we were finals bound. an awful lot of people. the drop in numbers is because the penny has dropped and people now realise  we are no where near finals.
Some of what you say may be true claw but you are kidding yourself if you believe Cousins recruitment did not have a massive impact on additional memberships in '09.

no more b/s the club should be openly saying we have a very young and immature list and our ladder position is likely to be low.
 they should be saying  l the onus for this club is to find and play young players who in time will get us to finals, ladder position means jack atm.

If you've been paying attention I think it's pretty clear that the club(Hardwick, March, Gale etc.) have left supporters under no false illusions that there are hard yards ahead. 'No shortcuts' has been a consistent theme over the off season. 14 new faces is a fair clean out in anyone's language. Only two clubs ever have had a bigger turnover in a single season. It's not just rhetoric this time, actions are doing the talking and the club is in a full swing rebuild.
You of all posters should be somewhat pleased..

yeah im pleased i think theres still plenty more thart need turning over though imo hardwick has done the easy bit. 
all im saying is im concerned. the clubs recent history says every time we are strapped for cash or numbers in membership  go low we take short cuts. i dont have the trust in them to not do it again. im hoping they will tough it out and see thru what ever new plan thay have.

oh and i didnt say cuzs recruitment did not have an impact i believe a combination of cuz and the fact with him in the team most thought we would make finals. one only had to look at the list its structure and the quality to know this was never going to happen.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on January 15, 2010, 09:28:53 PM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

maybe they would be better off without violent drunks as members :scream :scream
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on January 15, 2010, 09:59:23 PM


maybe they would be better off without violent drunks as members :scream :scream

whos a violent drunk ?
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 16, 2010, 08:35:17 AM

P.S: i purchased mine Mid-Dec, when should i expect it to arrive?

 :)

Late January to early/mid-february is what I got told on Tuesday when I renewed the peanuts junior stuff

(which IMHO is a bit disppointing - too late)
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on January 16, 2010, 08:45:31 AM
Does the membership get you into the NAB games? If so wouldn't you expect to receive them before Feb 13?
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: tigersalive on January 16, 2010, 09:31:35 AM
Does the membership get you into the NAB games? If so wouldn't you expect to receive them before Feb 13?

No.

I think North Melbourne is the only membership that has that as a benefit.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on January 16, 2010, 11:22:31 AM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

then what motivates you to remain interested in RFC  via internet forums, coz it's free :o
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 16, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

You're just a half hearted fan then. You'd rather go to a boring amateur game with a crowd of 30 people lol. Good luck  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on January 16, 2010, 05:54:21 PM

If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

you gotta be kidding, watch a bunch of fat bald wannabees blowing harder than a toady out of water...tell me, do you need to get there early to book a seat :o
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on January 16, 2010, 09:25:23 PM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

You're just a half hearted fan then. You'd rather go to a boring amateur game with a crowd of 30 people lol. Good luck  ::)
pppfffttt ive seen better sanfl and wafl games with higher skill level than what the rfc have dished up in recent times. and without doubt ive more enjoyable underage games.
better a half hearted fan than an ill informed  totally deluded one.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 17, 2010, 12:32:42 AM
No Richo could be having an impact too..

It's ok. Damien Barret is just inflating the figures hehe. It's only 3,000 difference with 2 weeks less sales too  ;D

Of course Damian. Damian would you care to tell me how many members have signed on for the shitboner spirit and how many turn up to games? 30000 members or therabouts listed officially. Average crowd inflated to 20000 which includes 15000 away fans?
Title: Tiger fans answer call and rush to den (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on January 17, 2010, 07:33:34 AM
Tiger fans answer call and rush to den

RICHMOND supporters have answered their club's call to arms, signing on as members in a record surge.

The Herald Sun revealed on Thursday that the Tigers were 5400 members down on this time last year when the arrival of Ben Cousins sent hopes of a finals appearance soaring.

The membership drop equated to a loss of more than $1 million in revenue.

Richmond signed more than 500 new members on Thursday, when 50 would be expected under normal circumstances.

- Sam Edmund

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brad-scotts-us-trek-to-find-the-key/story-e6frf9jf-1225820298217
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on January 17, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

then what motivates you to remain interested in RFC  via internet forums, coz it's free :o

l like writing about there huge mistakes that they have made & continue to make over & over & over again
lets hope they get it correct this time round
+ l like reading the rubbish some of you spin
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on January 17, 2010, 03:09:54 PM

If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

you gotta be kidding, watch a bunch of fat bald wannabees blowing harder than a toady out of water...tell me, do you need to get there early to book a seat :o

them fat baldy wannabe players dish up better football skills then then the past RFC players, lol
if you wanna pay huge money to go sit in a world stadium & can take in what you call professional football then go right ahead blubber-boy cause if you except that type of skill & support it  ;D then you dont know poo about football or are wacko & dont know any better but hey dont take that to heart
as l said l would prefer to go support a local struggling football club :thumbsup  & laugh when players make stupid mistakes  ;D not stress & wonder why l'm paying mega dollars to go to the MCG
Gippsland Power would give RFC a run for its money on last years pathetic football effort
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on January 17, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
dont know how much money the club has wasted ringing & mailing me to renew my lot of memberships but it aint happening  ;D
supporters are dropping off like it or not the article is spot on
If you dish up that unprofessional poo onfield,  then people will refuse to pay memberships,  when they can go down the local footy club for some good old fashion football & biff at good drinking prices.
End of the day you get to go into the social club & drink to daylight & still have change in your pocket on the way home :thumbsup you cant beat a day at the footy like that. ;D
better still you get invited back hours later for Sunday sippers  ;D football is going to be great this year  :thumbsup

You're just a half hearted fan then. You'd rather go to a boring amateur game with a crowd of 30 people lol. Good luck  ::)

funny that our local community has several football leagues & pull larger crowds than the unwanted TAC club Gippsland Power who bleeds the community as much as it can but gives nothing back, which l say nothing more ;D
maybe where you come from you get 30 people haha living in a deluded backtown no-one ever goes to anymore like Korong Vale  ;D
l'm no half hearted fan l can tell you. l had continued membership probably longer than you been on this planet.  Just this year l decided enough is enough & l'm not paying a penny
funny enough, l dont need to be a member of any club to get in to watch football. l get enough handouts from the AFL & my MCC membership.

Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on January 17, 2010, 03:46:06 PM
I reckon the RFC needs to take serious action in regards to these off and on again bandwagoners to our club.

Maybe if they froze memberships just at the lead in on the season.  Then they assess how the team has gone after the first month and if the team is going well then quadruple the membership price while we are still a chance of making the finals.

Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on January 17, 2010, 05:53:29 PM


them fat baldy wannabe players dish up better football skills then then the past RFC players, lol
if you wanna pay huge money to go sit in a world stadium & can take in what you call professional football then go right ahead blubber-boy cause if you except that type of skill & support it  ;D then you dont know poo about football or are fooled & dont know any better but hey dont take that to heart
as l said l would prefer to go support a local struggling football club :thumbsup  & laugh when players make stupid mistakes  ;D not stress & wonder why l'm paying mega dollars to go to the MCG
Gippsland Power would give RFC a run for its money on last years pathetic football effort

spounds like a barrel of laughs, what else do you do for kicks out gippsland way in any case :-\




Edited to correct quote
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on January 17, 2010, 06:23:08 PM
lol
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on January 17, 2010, 06:38:04 PM
Just maybe the supporters are sick of the ""tanking ""and the pitifull efforts last year, and previous years
And maybe they can see through would be wannebe coaches ( Jade Rawlings) going on and on about loving this club and loving the player group, for the last 11 weeks last year. oh please.  He is now at his 4th club this year in 6 years.FACT ! :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
The club is paying for the poor management, poor decisions on issues in 2009.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: 1965 on January 17, 2010, 06:44:25 PM
Just maybe the supporters are sick of the ""tanking ""and the pitifull efforts last year, and previous years
And maybe they can see through would be wannebe coaches ( Jade Rawlings) going on and on about loving this club and loving the player group, for the last 11 weeks last year. oh please.  He is now at his 4th club this year in 6 years.FACT ! :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
The club is paying for the poor management, poor decisions on issues in 2009.

Now that's the Jackstar we know and love, enough of this brightsider stuff.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on January 17, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
Mate, I was one of he first to join up, speaking to alot of supporters, there are some who are peeed off at the clubs spindoctoring and garbage last year. Can tell you that the club are aware of this, thus the are keeping a low profile .
Really you cant blame people.
And it is laughable what Jade Rawlings said for 11 weeks last year, I love this club,I love the playing group LOL
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on January 17, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
Mate, I was one of he first to join up, speaking to alot of supporters, there are some who are peeed off at the clubs spindoctoring and garbage last year. Can tell you that the club are aware of this, thus the are keeping a low profile .
Really you cant blame people.
And it is laughable what Jade Rawlings said for 11 weeks last year, I love this club,I love the playing group LOL
Dont really care who is in charge, who says what, and our on field performance; i barrack for Richmond! Always have, always will and therefore will always be a member! I will never let personalities get in the way of my loyalty!
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on January 17, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Mate, I was one of he first to join up, speaking to alot of supporters, there are some who are peeed off at the clubs spindoctoring and garbage last year. Can tell you that the club are aware of this, thus the are keeping a low profile .
Really you cant blame people.
And it is laughable what Jade Rawlings said for 11 weeks last year, I love this club,I love the playing group LOL

I havent joined up yet and last year I joined up earlier, Im going to join up in the next 2 weeks, but not because of the article, the article is irrelevant, today is only the 17th January. Lets wait another month to see who rejoins before starting the crisis mode in terms of profit and loss and membership numbers.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 17, 2010, 10:09:09 PM
A good run to the semis or the final of the NAB cup will ensure a late surge of memberships being sold. We are in the middle of January for goodness sakes.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on January 18, 2010, 01:04:06 PM
Just maybe the supporters are sick of the ""tanking ""and the pitifull efforts last year, and previous years
And maybe they can see through would be wannebe coaches ( Jade Rawlings) going on and on about loving this club and loving the player group, for the last 11 weeks last year. oh please.  He is now at his 4th club this year in 6 years.FACT ! :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
The club is paying for the poor management, poor decisions on issues in 2009.
what tanking are the supporters peeed with? the rfc didnt have the brains to tank and boy how it has cost us.
this is how it should have gone or similar.
07 2 18 19  cotchin rance pears/ward.
08 1 3 17   watts, rich/hartlett, swift/
09 1 3 18   scully, martin, griffiths.

ah the cost of a few meaninless games and stroking supporters egos.
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on January 18, 2010, 06:16:56 PM
A good run to the semis or the final of the NAB cup will ensure a late surge of memberships being sold. We are in the middle of January for goodness sakes.

That's true Tucker but the drop in numbers has an impact now and that's in Cashflow. Lack of cash coming in means short term borrowings are required, which means paying more interest, which bites into the bottom line  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on January 18, 2010, 08:09:04 PM
A good run to the semis or the final of the NAB cup will ensure a late surge of memberships being sold. We are in the middle of January for goodness sakes.

That's true Tucker but the drop in numbers has an impact now and that's in Cashflow. Lack of cash coming in means short term borrowings are required, which means paying more interest, which bites into the bottom line  :thumbsup

I really hope our club was realistic enough to:-
1. NOT budget the same membership funds to end Jan this year compared to last year. The cousins thing along with expectation of playing finals are material benefits we don't enjoy this year
2. Have even budgeted for more than 30-32k members in total for this year
The marketing and sponsorship depts need to step up and creatively look for opps to stretch the dollars from the corporates TY.
Willy P, if we had cash reserves instead of several millions of debt, an overdraft or short term borrowings would nit be necessary to budget through an expected poor year on field.
Title: Re: Tiger fans answer call and rush to den (Herald-Sun)
Post by: yellowandback on January 18, 2010, 08:18:55 PM
Tiger fans answer call and rush to den

RICHMOND supporters have answered their club's call to arms, signing on as members in a record surge.

The Herald Sun revealed on Thursday that the Tigers were 5400 members down on this time last year when the arrival of Ben Cousins sent hopes of a finals appearance soaring.

The membership drop equated to a loss of more than $1 million in revenue.

Richmond signed more than 500 new members on Thursday, when 50 would be expected under normal circumstances.

- Sam Edmund

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brad-scotts-us-trek-to-find-the-key/story-e6frf9jf-1225820298217

FTR, we signed approx. 740 members last week and 800 the week prior.

The article mings a little......
Title: Re: Richmond faces $1m hole after 5400 members fall off from last year (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on January 19, 2010, 12:07:11 AM
I really hope our club was realistic enough to:-
1. NOT budget the same membership funds to end Jan this year compared to last year. The cousins thing along with expectation of playing finals are material benefits we don't enjoy this year
2. Have even budgeted for more than 30-32k members in total for this year
The marketing and sponsorship depts need to step up and creatively look for opps to stretch the dollars from the corporates TY.
Agree Y&B. You would hope the Club would be budgeting for less members and basically plan to just break even across all areas of the club after the disaster of last year. Last year's budget would've been outlined well before the Cousins saga started so the jump in membership should've been seen as a bonus and an anomaly. Taking into account the 2 week late starting date for membership renewals we are probably back to 2008 levels and following our membership growth trend since 2004 (ie. 1000 new members per year).

Hopefully what Gale alluded to at the AGM relates to your last point about being more creative to generate more revenue especially non-football revenue.
Title: Success at turnstiles fuels on-field bite (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on January 24, 2010, 04:53:02 AM
This Age article is from the Bulldogs' viewpoint but nevertheless it shows the importance of signing up as a member and the benefits to the club if you do so as early as possible....

Success at turnstiles fuels on-field bite
ANDREA PETRIE
January 24, 2010

For years, on-field success has practically guaranteed AFL clubs' off-field prosperity with premierships bringing with them lucrative sponsorship deals and attracting additional members, enabling clubs to build state-of-the-art training facilities to help teams continue to flourish.

While the first bounce of this year's home and away season is still 60 days away, chances are, if you're a lapsed member of any club, you have already been bombarded with letters and phone calls asking why you are yet to re-sign. So why is it so important for supporters to put their money where their mouths are?
....

Seward said the longer fans left it to re-sign, the more money clubs spent on trying to get them back, money that would have gone to the team.

Full article here:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/success-at-turnstiles-fuels-onfield-bite-20100123-mrs0.html

Title: Re: Success at turnstiles fuels on-field bite (Age)
Post by: Smokey on January 24, 2010, 08:27:02 AM

While the first bounce of this year's home and away season is still 60 days away, chances are, if you're a lapsed member of any club, you have already been bombarded with letters and phone calls asking why you are yet to re-sign. So why is it so important for supporters to put their money where their mouths are?


I had to let my membership lapse a couple of years back but never had contact from the club of any kind - phone, letter or email.  You would have thought that given I had been a member for the previous 7 years they might have at least tried.