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Title: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
Fantasy Face-off: Chaplin v Watts

By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Tuesday, March 12, 2013


     TROY CHAPLINJACK WATTS
Fantasy position     Defender     Defender/Forward
2013 price     $339,700    $360,600
2012 average    66    70
2012 high score     110 (round 15 v Adelaide)    121 (round 8 v Sydney Swans)
Age    26    21
X-factor, Rising Star or Mr Reliable?    Chaplin could be considered a Mr Reliable, given his above-average ball-winning status for a player in his position. Averaged the fourth-most rebounds of any defender in 2012. Watts, given his reinvention as a defender last year, is considered a Rising Star. When he settled into the new role, he averaged more than 23 possessions a game between rounds eight and 15.
Value for money    Pretty good. Can win the ball, take intercept marks and with Alex Rance planning to take the big forward this season, will have scope at times to be creative.
 
   Given what he showed in his purple patch in the middle of last season, he's also good value – especially given his dual position status as a forward and defender.
Job security     If his rehabilitation from knee surgery continues on the upward curve, the Tigers will be keen to get him in for round one.    Missed two games last year when he was dropped (rounds six and seven) but it appears as though the penny dropped on his return. Is slated to start the season in defence, and on time after a minor injury and illness late last year.
Injury history    Missed four of the final five games last year with a knee injury, which he had mended post-season. Port was worried about his knee's longevity but Chaplin believes it is sound.    Had an ankle injury late last year that saw him miss five games between rounds 16 and 20 before he picked up some leg tightness before Christmas. He missed a few sessions before he was sidelined for a week with illness but has not had anything that will affect him long-term.
The case for     Will add a mature head to the Tigers' backline and is poised to continue to win plenty of the ball, as he did in 2012. With the ability to play on talls and smalls as well as create play – he led the Power for intercept possessions last year – and in his past five seasons at AFL level has always averaged mid-teens in the disposal stakes. In 2011, he led the Power for marks and rebounds, and will likely soar in price if he stays consistent.    Showed he could collect the ball in a role across half-back last year with his ability to read the play making him the ideal sort of player to stand the loose man job. Like Chaplin, can be a pest for the opposition with his ability to intercept – he ranked No.1 in the AFL for intercept possessions between rounds eight and 15 last year. Another year with more maturity added can only help him, and Neil Craig has been helping him with his competitiveness.
The case against    Chaplin has had issues with his knee, which ultimately led to the Power declining to match the Tigers' offer of a four-year deal. He didn't do much in the early stages of the pre-season and didn't play until the latter weeks of the NAB Cup.    While the trend from last season indicates Watts is on the up, there remains some doubt over his consistency. He struggled to make as much impact when he returned from injury last year for the final three games.

The verdict:    A tough one but Watts emerges as the somewhat safer option, given Chaplin's restricted summer and knee issues. His status as a forward/defender seals the deal. 

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-12/fantasy-faceoff-chaplin-v-watts
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: wayne on March 12, 2013, 04:21:35 PM
What an insult to Chaplin, being compared to this fairy.

I hope this spurs Chaplin on to AA honors.
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 12, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
lmfao
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 12, 2013, 10:33:52 PM
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :lol :rollin :lol

No one currently playing AFL should be compared to Watts.  :help
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 13, 2013, 01:36:57 AM
 :lol Poor Watts. Looks like a girl, plays like a girl. Just a taller, lankier Cale Morton. Who needs a 196cm outside midfielder?  ::)
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 13, 2013, 09:37:31 AM
Cale will have a premiership medal like his bro at the end of the year

Can't believe we took Cotchin over him. Where was Craig Cameron when we really needed him?
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Mr Magic on March 13, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 13, 2013, 01:25:15 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

You'd want to improve when you start off such a low base.  :whistle
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 13, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

And to think the Dees could have had big Nic Nat  ;D
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 13, 2013, 01:31:25 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

And to think the Dees could have had big Nic Nat  ;D
Didn;t need him. Got Jake Spencer.
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 13, 2013, 01:43:29 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

And to think the Dees could have had big Nic Nat  ;D
Didn;t need him. Got Jake Spencer.

And a guy with chronic fatigue, and a one legged giraffe with a head too big for its neck

And Stefan Martin

And Chris Dawes

 :birthday
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on March 13, 2013, 06:16:58 PM
LMAO at calling Watts a defender, wouldn't know what contact is
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 13, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

And to think the Dees could have had big Nic Nat  ;D
Didn;t need him. Got Jake Spencer.

And a guy with chronic fatigue, and a one legged giraffe with a head too big for its neck

And Stefan Martin

And Chris Dawes

 :birthday

Stefan Martin is at Brissy pal. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 13, 2013, 09:33:10 PM
LMAO at calling Watts a defender, wouldn't know what contact is

Really sat off the play in the tri series a few weeks back.

Just waiting for the cheap hand off.

Nothing player for a pick 1.

Makes me feel better though. ;D
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: mightytiges on March 14, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
Melbourne have wrecked Watts. If you saw him in the U18s he was a clear top 3 pick and a agile leading full forward. If Watts had gone to a proper club with a full quota of development coaches, modern facilities and one that had a proper coach that didn't want his team to play bruise free footy, then he might have had a chance to develop into a AFL footballer.

As for this ridiculous comparison:
(http://www.theshout.com.au/image/istock_steak_sandwich_small.jpg) V (http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/14/93/29/400_F_14932986_sCxGbZWEHOmnfHcevNmXp8Ht24ZSQEF8.jpg)
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 14, 2013, 11:16:04 AM
As for this ridiculous comparison:
(http://www.theshout.com.au/image/istock_steak_sandwich_small.jpg) V (http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/14/93/29/400_F_14932986_sCxGbZWEHOmnfHcevNmXp8Ht24ZSQEF8.jpg)

more like

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-shkM_mSmjNg/UBRq_eibrrI/AAAAAAAAACA/zlBwOcQ8PKU/s1600/scone.jpg) V (http://t2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/14/93/29/400_F_14932986_sCxGbZWEHOmnfHcevNmXp8Ht24ZSQEF8.jpg)
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Coach on March 14, 2013, 01:14:46 PM
Anyone who wouldn't prefer Watts is off their rocker. Kid will be fine and he wouldn't have this pressure on him if it wasn't for being pick #1. He has more of a chance of becoming something than Chaplin does
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: wayne on March 14, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

And to think the Dees could have had big Nic Nat  ;D

Can you imagine how Nic Nat would have turned out with Melbourne's player development skills  :o
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 14, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Watts is improving. May make a decent HB yet but he's not the great white hope key forward they were looking for when he was drafted.

And to think the Dees could have had big Nic Nat  ;D

Can you imagine how Nic Nat would have turned out with Melbourne's player development skills  :o
still would have been athletic. Just wouldn't be so overrated if he was a dees no1 pick.  :whistle
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 14, 2013, 07:56:45 PM
Can confirm watts is.in my super coach team. Not being prudential.

Will rape it in from back pocket / loose chb
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Willy on March 14, 2013, 10:15:18 PM
Anyone who wouldn't prefer Watts is off their rocker. Kid will be fine and he wouldn't have this pressure on him if it wasn't for being pick #1. He has more of a chance of becoming something than Chaplin does

I know you love to play favorites Coachy boy, but I wouldnt have thought that Jack Watts would be one of them.
Personally, I would waayyy prefer Chaps and i think he has already become 'something,' unlike Watts. I get the feeling you're dirty on Chaps for ditching your grandson Shulzy at Poot.
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Coach on March 14, 2013, 10:38:47 PM
Anyone who wouldn't prefer Watts is off their rocker. Kid will be fine and he wouldn't have this pressure on him if it wasn't for being pick #1. He has more of a chance of becoming something than Chaplin does

I know you love to play favorites Coachy boy, but I wouldnt have thought that Jack Watts would be one of them.
Personally, I would waayyy prefer Chaps and i think he has already become 'something,' unlike Watts. I get the feeling you're dirty on Chaps for ditching your grandson Shulzy at Poot.

:fishing

Jack is lazy and doesn't push himself like a player of his talent should. He may need a fresh start. Would happily have him here. But stuff he might be another Tambling in 2 years so who really knows.
Chaps is something alright. Suuurrrrrrrrggggggeeeeeeee....I would have ditched Port too if I knew the new coaches were already lining up a young bloke from GWS to take my role ;D

Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Willy on March 14, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
You know too much you teal devil!!
 :lol
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 15, 2013, 01:38:19 AM
In fairness to Coach I'd take Watts over Chappy for fantasy football too. Racking up 30+ cheap uncontested possessions is good for fantasy footy. Go get em Jacqueline.  :clapping
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Tigers of Old on March 15, 2013, 08:29:17 AM
Yeah Watts plays arguably the easiest spot in the game, LMID(sweeper) at half back.
He'll only earn respect when he's playing as the KPP he was drafted for.
It may happen yet though, I wouldn't completely write that off from happening.
Has the skills if he can discover the heart. Could come with maturity..
We've got Ben Griffiths in that same basket atm.
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 15, 2013, 10:45:11 AM
Yeah Watts plays arguably the easiest spot in the game, LMID(sweeper) at half back.
He'll only earn respect when he's playing as the KPP he was drafted for.
It may happen yet though, I wouldn't completely write that off from happening.
Has the skills if he can discover the heart. Could come with maturity..
We've got Ben Griffiths in that same basket atm.

Pretty much. Needs to build them linguine arms up. Griffiths needs to learn how to get some cheap possies like Watts. We'd get to see 80m passes each time as he racks up 30 possies.  :clapping

Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Owl on March 16, 2013, 09:14:41 AM
LMAO at calling Watts a defender, wouldn't know what contact is
Cmon Man!  He is an outside defender
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 16, 2013, 11:18:19 AM
LMAO at calling Watts a defender, wouldn't know what contact is
Cmon Man!  He is an outside defender

 :clapping the new craze at Melbourne.  :whistle
Title: Re: Face-off: Chaplin v Watts ....... (afl site)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 16, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Yeah Watts plays arguably the easiest spot in the game, LMID(sweeper) at half back.
He'll only earn respect when he's playing as the KPP he was drafted for.
It may happen yet though, I wouldn't completely write that off from happening.
Has the skills if he can discover the heart. Could come with maturity..
We've got Ben Griffiths in that same basket atm.

Pretty much. Needs to build them linguine arms up. Griffiths needs to learn how to get some cheap possies like Watts. We'd get to see 80m passes each time as he racks up 30 possies.  :clapping

Griffiths and Watts should not be compared. Ben has done more on the operating table than Watts has done for Casey. :help