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Title: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on August 01, 2016, 05:02:51 PM
Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick

AAP 
August 1, 2016 4:35 PM


RICHMOND captain Trent Cotchin has thrown his support behind under-siege coach Damien Hardwick, saying players at the club must lift.

The Tigers are reeling from arguably their most inept performance under Hardwick, an embarrassing 88-point loss to Greater Western Sydney in which they kicked only three goals.

Richmond's 3.5 (23) was the club's lowest score in a VFL/AFL match since 1961.

Club icon Kevin Bartlett labelled it pathetic, while former forward Matthew Richardson called for a review of the Tigers' football department.

Cotchin, speaking a day after club chief executive Brendon Gale declared there would be no change of coach for 2017, called Hardwick a "fantastic person".

"He will wear most of (the criticism) on his shoulders because that's the kind of person he is," Cotchin said.

"But the reality is we need to be better as a playing group.

"We're doing everything we can.

"There's obviously a lot of work for us to do.

"The challenge for us is that we've still got four weeks of the season to turn around our form."

Cotchin added that Hardwick had a good relationship with Richmond players, who will be under the pump to deliver against Collingwood on Friday night.

"Absolutely. There's no questions about that and there never will be," he said.

Likewise, he wasn't worried about pundits calling for Hardwick to be sacked.

"I couldn't really care less what people are talking about outside our four walls," the midfielder said.

"I know the media play a part in our game ... but they don't play a part inside our club."

Hardwick signed a two-year contract extension before the start of the 2016 season, which ties him to Punt Road Oval until the end of the Tigers' 2018 campaign.

Richmond has bowed out at the elimination final stage of the past three seasons.

They are no chance of reaching this year's finals and sit 13th on the ladder with a 7-11 record.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-01/trent-cotchin-throws-support-behind-fantastic-damien-hardwick
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 01, 2016, 05:10:28 PM
Who cares about " four walls " Trent
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on August 01, 2016, 05:14:47 PM
 :help
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 01, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Trent if you want to be a leader give kingy a call and politely ask hardwick to GTFO.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 01, 2016, 05:34:07 PM
I couldn't care less that he's a spoilt brat who peaked 3 years ago and has since just played the suck job as good as hardwick.

Get rid of him too.
Would get some great picks.

He's not interested what the rest of the world says. Lol.

D E L U D E D
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 01, 2016, 05:39:55 PM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.



Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Diocletian on August 01, 2016, 05:47:29 PM
A lot about him being a "fantastic person".....no mention of him actually being a good coach though...

Do our players want a best mate or a flag? They need to make their minds up.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on August 01, 2016, 05:48:47 PM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.
if you are happy to see results such as saturday, why all the angst?
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 01, 2016, 05:48:56 PM
A wise man once told his wife. Other people's opinions weren't their concern.

Now that's LEADERSHIP.

Sadly they're terrible.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 01, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
they never do Duke. As long as you feed their pockets thats all that matters.

how many times have we heard this 4 walls business. About as many times as i heard they wanted to win "a final"

amateurs the lot of them only surviving by the amount of money they get from us fools.



Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 01, 2016, 05:50:26 PM
4 walls, wash basin, prison bed......
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 01, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
And no effing floor
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 01, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
Look....I suppose he has to say something....but surely an articulate leader like Trent could have come up with something better thN "we're doing everything we can"

That's basically an admission that both the list and coach aren't up to it., I mean. If you're doing everything you can but topple from top 8 to 13 and plummeting, then the fact is even your best isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on August 01, 2016, 06:11:17 PM
Bring back the possums... :snidegrin
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 01, 2016, 06:24:32 PM
Cotchin is too precious. I dont like it.

Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Damo on August 01, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
I'm a gold member, 20 years consecutive.

My two daughters are members.

All of us are 3121.

I'm done.

Just been told my views don't matter in the slightest.

He's probably correct, but a view on mass matters.

We have 70000+ members and I only account for 3.

But I'm done.

I don't get emotional and carry on about results. The weekends game didn't pee me off, I've checked out for 2016.

But this article has done it for me.

I've bought my last membership.

Cya Trent.

Stick your four walls square up your arrogant hole
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on August 01, 2016, 06:51:41 PM
well said damo  :clapping

Pathetic attitude and response from our captain, tell you what Trent, how about you lot within the 4 walls, the only ones that matter, take up the slack and fund the ftf from here on in.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 01, 2016, 06:54:38 PM
"I couldn't really care less what people are talking about outside our four walls," the midfielder said.

"I know the media play a part in our game ... but they don't play a part inside our club."

Not sure he was talking about the supporters, just saying.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 01, 2016, 07:11:21 PM
Well, at least we all know Dimma is a "fantastic person"  :lol

Who even talks like that to describe someone in a platonic way? "Oh, my friend is a fantastic person"

LMFAO
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on August 01, 2016, 07:13:49 PM
Well, at least we all know Dimma is a "fantastic person"  :lol

Who even talks like that to describe someone in a platonic way? "Oh, my friend is a fantastic person"

LMFAO

Does that mean he is better than a "nice guy"?  :snidegrin
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 01, 2016, 07:14:33 PM
Well, at least we all know Dimma is a "fantastic person"  :lol

Who even talks like that to describe someone in a platonic way? "Oh, my friend is a fantastic person"

LMFAO

Does that mean he is better than a "nice guy"?  :snidegrin

Who knows!
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 01, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Well, at least we all know Dimma is a "fantastic person"  :lol

Who even talks like that to describe someone in a platonic way? "Oh, my friend is a fantastic person"

LMFAO

Does that mean he is better than a "nice guy"?  :snidegrin
Definitely. Don't you know the ranking scale WAT?  ;D
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on August 01, 2016, 07:25:44 PM
Well, at least we all know Dimma is a "fantastic person"  :lol

Who even talks like that to describe someone in a platonic way? "Oh, my friend is a fantastic person"

LMFAO

Does that mean he is better than a "nice guy"?  :snidegrin
Definitely. Don't you know the ranking scale WAT?  ;D

 :lol
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Owl on August 01, 2016, 10:19:24 PM
lol but you guys all said you wouldn't lose your poo if we went for a rebuild!  omg you idiots crack me up so much LOL literally pages of stuffing going spare and escalating hysteria HAHAHA ahh man i gotta go to bed
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Stalin on August 01, 2016, 10:21:55 PM
Don't forget your meds
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 01, 2016, 10:28:28 PM
well said damo  :clapping

Pathetic attitude and response from our captain, tell you what Trent, how about you lot within the 4 walls, the only ones that matter, take up the slack and fund the ftf from here on in.

Not the first time Cotchin has made comments like this. Ignoring members like don't exist or matter

His comments last season after Elim final loss when he said he'd let his team mates down and made no mention of how he and the club had let the members and supporters down, spoke volumes. Ditto the year before when he refused to even acknowledge he may have been wrong in kicking into a gale was another.

Really feel the club in particular the footy dept have lost touch with the members. Have really distanced themselves from the members in 2016.

The lack of respect the club directs towards its members will come back to bite them... have said a number of times over the last few years. The RFC is and has become a very dishonest footy club when it comes to its members

Club will learn the hard way.

Will remain a member but to what level ... well lets just say the $ spent this year wont be the same in 2017
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: naturaldisaster on August 01, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
A lot about him being a "fantastic person".....no mention of him actually being a good coach though...

Do our players want a best mate or a flag? They need to make their minds up.

come off it, of course he is going to back him.  He isn't going to come out and go "he is a crap coach"...

Media spin, they all do it.. He was obviously asked about it, what else did you want him to say?
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Diocletian on August 01, 2016, 10:52:35 PM
Geez, who's going to turn up next....This is Shytefield? Craponski?


Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: naturaldisaster on August 01, 2016, 10:56:14 PM
Stinking up the joint with your apologist dribble on your very first post..well done...now pee off back to BF with all the other mouth breathers.

Geez, who's going to turn up next....This is Shytefield? Craponski?

haha who is this?  Someone with a high level of maturity I see  ::)

Not an apologist at all, in fact I want Dimma gone and if you had read any of my BF posts you would know that.

But if Cotch, the leader of our club is asked about the coach, he is going to back him.  Just like Dimma backed him earlier this year after he was criticised.  That is all I am saying.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 01, 2016, 11:02:38 PM
I actually thought it was painfully obvious that he refused to say he was a good coach.

I feel that Dimma has lost the players and that they don't believe in his outdated gameplan. Their actions said so in the last quarter against Hawthorn and all game against GWS. And as we know, actions speak louder than words.

Friday night will be interesting....
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 01, 2016, 11:04:22 PM
Don't forget your meds

And you diabetes shot
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 01, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
I actually thought it was painfully obvious that he refused to say he was a good coach.


I'm unsure of that.

Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: naturaldisaster on August 01, 2016, 11:05:19 PM
I actually thought it was painfully obvious that he refused to say he was a good coach.

I feel that Dimma has lost the players and that they don't believe in his outdated gameplan. Their actions said so in the last quarter against Hawthorn and all game against GWS. And as we know, actions speak louder than words.

Friday night will be interesting....

agreed

Even when Brendan Gale "backed" him he hesitated, yet when asked if we need a rebuild he was confident that we didn't.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 02, 2016, 12:04:26 AM
Should ask Newman about how to get rid of a dud coach.  Now thats leadership.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 12:08:16 AM
Should ask Newman about how to get rid of a dud coach.  Now thats leadership.

It was all jake king.

Newman was like t@s on a bull
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 02, 2016, 12:20:28 AM
Should ask Newman about how to get rid of a dud coach.  Now thats leadership.

It was all jake king.

Newman was like t@s on a bull

Should get kingy down to the club.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 02, 2016, 03:24:07 AM
lol but you guys all said you wouldn't lose your poo if we went for a rebuild!  omg you stuffers crack me up so much LOL literally pages of stuffing going spare and escalating hysteria HAHAHA ahh man i gotta go to bed

Except we are losing our poo about hardwick....and 7 wasted years....and now that we have to rebuild (but the club wants to "refresh not rebuild")
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Owl on August 02, 2016, 06:46:31 AM
Refresh?  the joint needs a colonic irrigation, spraying some glen 20 around isn't gonna cut it.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 02, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.
if you are happy to see results such as saturday, why all the angst?
I didn't say I was happy.
 :huh
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: cub on August 02, 2016, 10:22:13 AM
"4 walls", How about more than 4 goals in a game trent and LMAO at zero tackles, youre really letting your football do the talking aye?
Disgraceful effort on the weekend from top to bottom and all we get is the same ol spin, prima donnas need to harden TF up and get a grip on reality and some honest hard truths, but theyre all to precious for that. New age limps....
                                                                                                                                                ^ LMAO I didnt say that  :banghead
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Yeahright on August 02, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
He's not interested what the rest of the world says. Lol.

D E L U D E D

A wise man once told his wife. Other people's opinions weren't their concern.

Now that's LEADERSHIP.

Sadly they're terrible.

Oh the hypocrisy :lol
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
He's not interested what the rest of the world says. Lol.

D E L U D E D

A wise man once told his wife. Other people's opinions weren't their concern.

Now that's LEADERSHIP.

Sadly they're terrible.

Oh the hypocrisy :lol

Contributor.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 02, 2016, 12:19:28 PM
Lol at our super hero - Mr Fantastic
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on August 02, 2016, 02:44:02 PM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.
if you are happy to see results such as saturday, why all the angst?
I didn't say I was happy.
 :huh
you said you didnt want them to turn their form around now, which means you want them to continue in the same vein as saturday?

surely that means you are happy with that form at this point in time?
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 02, 2016, 03:07:21 PM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.
if you are happy to see results such as saturday, why all the angst?
I didn't say I was happy.
 :huh
you said you didnt want them to turn their form around now, which means you want them to continue in the same vein as saturday?

surely that means you are happy with that form at this point in time?

Could be happy to wallow in mediocrity, bit like the hampson/hunt fans
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on August 02, 2016, 04:37:40 PM
ah, so rather than saying he wanted to turn their form around Trent should have said they were hoping to raise their form from complete shiete to mediocre.

no wonder his leadership is often being questioned.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Damo on August 02, 2016, 04:48:15 PM
They have 4 weeks to turn the season around apparently

Just curious Trent

If you win the last 4 games, what has that accomplished

HOW HAS THAT TURNED IT AROUND
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
ah, so rather than saying he wanted to turn their form around Trent should have said they were hoping to raise their form from complete shiete to mediocre.

no wonder his leadership is often being questioned.

It's understandable that you,wouldn't understand the fact that, there are times where you should just shut up.  :-*
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 04:52:14 PM
They have 4 weeks to turn the season around apparently

Just curious Trent

If you win the last 4 games, what has that accomplished

HOW HAS THAT TURNED IT AROUND

Yeahright and Penelope will know. ....
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on August 02, 2016, 04:53:49 PM
lol

amazing stuff

OER, the place that just keeps giving
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 04:54:46 PM
I rest my case
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on August 02, 2016, 04:58:41 PM
 :lol
 i reckon your client would be looking for a new lawyer if that was how you presented your case
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 05:31:39 PM
I really don't have the issue with you,  you try to create in your mind.

You're really just working within the few lines of comedy you have.

Thanks for your time and speak soon xx
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Raoul Duke on August 02, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.
if you are happy to see results such as saturday, why all the angst?
I didn't say I was happy.
 :huh
you said you didnt want them to turn their form around now, which means you want them to continue in the same vein as saturday?

surely that means you are happy with that form at this point in time?
Try reading it again and maybe just maybe you might see whats written rather than what you want to see.
 :shh
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on August 02, 2016, 08:03:21 PM
They have 4 weeks to turn the season around apparently

Just curious Trent

If you win the last 4 games, what has that accomplished

HOW HAS THAT TURNED IT AROUND

It will give us that much needed springboard into next season silly, reckon Ive heard that one about 25 times over the last 3 decades
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 02, 2016, 08:04:20 PM
Fantastic
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 02, 2016, 08:11:55 PM
True.

If they win round one next year, they'll say they've won the last five under hardwick.
Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Penelope on August 03, 2016, 02:44:04 PM
Its this sort of crud that gives supporters the absolute poos.

THE SEASONS OVER TRENT.

Why the stuff do we want to turn our form around NOW, whats it going to achieve?

Oh,I forgot you don't really care what supporters think.
if you are happy to see results such as saturday, why all the angst?
I didn't say I was happy.
 :huh
you said you didnt want them to turn their form around now, which means you want them to continue in the same vein as saturday?

surely that means you are happy with that form at this point in time?
Try reading it again and maybe just maybe you might see whats written rather than what you want to see.
 :shh

You said had a go at him for wanting to turn the form around now and aked what it will acheive.

what else could be drawn from this statement except you think turning the form around now is pointless and dont want it to happen?

Title: Re: Cotchin throws support behind 'fantastic' Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 03, 2016, 05:23:08 PM
Lol at our super hero - Mr Fantastic

Captain 'Fantastic'! Sabotaging finals, success and accountability since 2014