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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Mr Magic on April 19, 2010, 11:17:00 PM

Title: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Mr Magic on April 19, 2010, 11:17:00 PM
Discussed just now on FC by Lyon & Caro.
I agree 100%.

Simmonds a waste of space & Tuck was absolutely appalling again on Sunday.

Can't see any point whatsoever in giving either another game for the year.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: torch on April 19, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
Discussed just now on FC by Lyon & Caro.
I agree 100%.

Simmonds a waste of space & Tuck was absolutely appalling again on Sunday.

Can't see any point whatsoever in giving either another game for the year.


 :thumbsup

take Hislop, Edwards, King, McMahon with them!

 :)
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: WA Tiger on April 19, 2010, 11:30:35 PM
Maybe Browne needs to come in for Simmo regardless of his form, throw him in the deep end and make him work. Webberly could come in for Tuck, we just can't keep bringing in players like King and the like, they are not the future.

Gourdis IMO also needs to have a chance, find some way and promote him. Leave Roberts in and the new gamers from the weekend, but stop bringing in the hacks and get rid of the current ball killers and the turnover champions.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: tiger101 on April 19, 2010, 11:30:44 PM
Discussed just now on FC by Lyon & Caro.
I agree 100%.

Simmonds a waste of space & Tuck was absolutely appalling again on Sunday.

Can't see any point whatsoever in giving either another game for the year.


 :thumbsup

take Hislop, Edwards, King, McMahon with them!

 :)


surely there names must have lines through them for playing on next year.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Penelope on April 20, 2010, 07:55:15 AM
Discussed just now on FC by Lyon & Caro.
I agree 100%.

Simmonds a waste of space & Tuck was absolutely appalling again on Sunday.

Can't see any point whatsoever in giving either another game for the year.


No doubt simmonds is in his last year of AFL football. Not doing much at the moment but the options dont seem to be doing much to justify selection. I think we are just stuck with that at the moment.

Tuck, appalling?. I get the impression that is just a deep set negative opinion that will never change, surfacing.
Hardwick seems to be quite happy with the way Tuck is performing the task being given to him at the moment. Will be interesting to see if he finishes the year in the seniors or at Coburg. That will give a good indication to his future.

Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Owl on April 20, 2010, 08:26:18 AM
WTF would 'Caro' know, she is a stuffing journo and has carved her existence from having a leak inside Richmond, her tactical nous could be wiped onto a stuffing sheet of toilet paper and be about as valuable, equally her evaluation of players.  Lyons is a Richmond hating ponce and can bash sand up his clacker.  Tuck did his job, Simmonds is getting slower no doubt, but Tuck did what was asked of him in a new role, second game in it IMHO.  I think you will find the coaching staff agree.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Mr Magic on April 20, 2010, 08:38:33 AM

Tuck, appalling?.


Yes. I have watched him closely the past two weeks. The stats are not indicative of his output.
More often than not when he is involved in the play it does not go to our advantage.
He is an absolute liability out there doing more harm than good. Coburg it should be.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Smokey on April 20, 2010, 10:48:09 AM

Tuck, appalling?.


Yes. I have watched him closely the past two weeks. The stats are not indicative of his output.
More often than not when he is involved in the play it does not go to our advantage.
He is an absolute liability out there doing more harm than good. Coburg it should be.
s

I agree MM, I was groaning at his disposal constantly on Sunday - I thought he was a real liability with his disposal.  He just kept kicking poorly and without thought - turning our possession into a contest or their possession.  Getting a heap of disposals was a waste because far too many of them went to our disadvantage and it has been the knock on him forever.  He might be more defensively minded this year but he must greatly improve his thinking with the ball if he is to be worth keeping.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 20, 2010, 11:24:23 AM
2010 Richmond Tigers Disposals Per Game Leaders
 Rank Name Games Average
1 Shane Tuck 2 23.50
2 Brett Deledio 4 22.50
3 Daniel Jackson 4 22.25
4 Daniel Connors 3 21.00
5 Andrew Collins 1 20.00
6 Dustin Martin 4 19.50
7 Shane Edwards 4 18.00
8 Trent Cotchin 4 17.25
9 Chris Newman 3 16.33
10 Adam Thomson 2 16.00
10 Ben Cousins 2 16.00
12 Jack Riewoldt 4 14.00
13 Luke McGuane 3 13.67
14 Kelvin Moore 4 13.50
15 Ben Nason 4 13.25
16 Dean Polo 1 13.00
16 Robin Nahas 2 13.00
18 Tom Hislop 3 12.33
19 Richard Tambling 4 12.25
20 Mitch Farmer 3 12.00
21 Mitch Morton 4 11.00
22 Matthew White 2 10.50
23 Jake King 1 10.00

24 Troy Simmonds 4 9.50
25 Matthew Dea 1 9.00
25 Troy Taylor 1 9.00
27 Alex Rance 2 8.50
28 Will Thursfield 2 8.00
29 Jayden Post 3 7.33
30 Tyrone Vickery 4 7.25
31 David Astbury 1 7.00
32 Relton Roberts 2 6.50


 :-X
 
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Tigermonk on April 20, 2010, 12:00:12 PM
People calling for Tuck to be axed is a joke
if he was that bad,   ? why does he find his own ball ? why is he the highest possession winner of any Richmond player on the day
Get some harder working players around him to help him out might just take some preasure off the bloke,  cause you wont find a harder worker on game day
Can also tell you all Tuck is a required player  ;D
Too many joggers & passengers at Richmond. many have not been taken to the vomit stage lately or ever been near it
Let me down there training them,   l swear Ben Holland can run harder & longer than most of them & thats a statement
They are pathetic to watch when they aint got the ball
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Penelope on April 20, 2010, 12:34:55 PM
Tuck was ordinary at times when kicking under pressure the other night, but he certainly has a few mates. On the other hand he managed to find a teammate clear by hand on a number of occasions which enabled the ball to be cleared from the back line ( until the next turnover  :P).

I saw his ledger in the positive and would have him in the side before Jackson, thompson, nahas and probably Hislop. Jackson in particular  simply has overall poor disposal/decision making, even when not under pressure.

Hardwick said he was "very very happy" with Tuck the other night, so I suppose he also thinks the benefits outweigh the down side, for now.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Mr Magic on April 20, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
2010 Richmond Tigers Disposals Per Game Leaders
 Rank Name Games Average
1 Shane Tuck 2 23.50

An absolute butcher of the ball as our leading disposal winner. :banghead

I could care less about stats. He's hopeless.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Beren on April 20, 2010, 03:17:54 PM
Just love these people who have never seen Gus or Browne at Coburg calling for them to replace Simmo. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: mightytiges on April 20, 2010, 04:31:42 PM
Simmo's knee is stuffed. He doesn't train except to do the ruck taps and even then he doesn't get far off the ground. Sad he is forced to play on when his body is saying enough just because we didn't recruit a replacement ruckman 5-8 years ago  ::) in readiness to takeover rather than hoping teenage rucks can step in.
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: the_boy_jake on April 20, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
Cut McMahon first please.

At least you can see Tucky and Simmo giving there all.

McMahon is a soft, outside forward running girl whose great 'disposal' goes missing under any sort of pressure. If you are trying to send a message to the young playing group, getting rid of McMahon might incur a cost (that we are going to pay in installments anyway) but sends a message that being soft and unaccountable leads you swiftly to the door marked 'EXIT'
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 20, 2010, 05:12:54 PM
Just love these people who have never seen Gus or Browne at Coburg calling for them to replace Simmo. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

Gus or Goose as he is known by the players, is the worst player ever to play AFL.
He is a complete fool.
The witches hats at training would have more impact than ''Goose ""
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 20, 2010, 05:22:58 PM
surely browne has potential
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Penelope on April 20, 2010, 05:39:58 PM
gee, I hope so, or our ruck stocks are fornicated.

given what MT said about Simmonds in another thread, he may end up on the LTIL.

Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 20, 2010, 06:03:10 PM
2010 Richmond Tigers Disposals Per Game Leaders
 Rank Name Games Average
1 Shane Tuck 2 23.50

An absolute butcher of the ball as our leading disposal winner. :banghead

I could care less about stats. He's hopeless.

7 goals vs 0 goals in the 3rd term against the only team that finshed below us on the ladder last year.

dont care for that stat?
Title: Re: Tuck and Simmonds should have their papers stamped.
Post by: eliminator on April 20, 2010, 06:31:46 PM
Hislop and Simmonds had the lowest effective possessions in the team against the dees.The goal that Jamar kicked after Hislop stuffed up was a pure disgrace. At least when Tuck was in the forward line he kicked a goal more than bloody Hislop could do.