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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 24, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
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Moving onto next week's game. Initial thoughts? Can we contain the Eagles' rucks Cox and NicNat and their big key forwards?
Richmond v WC
Sunday 29 Apr 2012
Richmond will play the West Coast Eagles at Etihad Stadium on Sunday 29 April at 3.15pm.
Public Gates will open at 1.30pm.
http://www.etihadstadium.com.au/event-display-etihadstadium/Richmond-v-WC/505
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For some strange reason 'and yes I am' Quietly confidant this one and would be a LOT more so if it was an actual "HOME" game.
Yes I will continue to bang on about it ...... ;D
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am backing the Tiges for a win.
If we lose, we wont play finals
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Think we are real show in this one
More so than i thought we were against Geelong ;D
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Had this one penciled in before the season, realistically expected us to be 2-3 after 5 rounds, we can beat this mob here. They are coming off a brutal game against the hawks and shuey looked stuffed
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Think we are real show in this one
More so than i thought we were against Geelong ;D
I also have belief we can beat them this week and have for a while
Had this one penciled in before the season, realistically expected us to be 2-3 after 5 rounds, we can beat this mob here. They are coming off a brutal game against the hawks and shuey looked stuffed
I couldnt pencil in any wins, but I am confident if we fix our foward line issues and address our 2nd quarter phase outs we are a real chance.
am backing the Tiges for a win.
If we lose, we wont play finals
If we do lose Jack, it will put us behind the 8 ball, most here had us 1-4 after the first 5. But im sure the club would have thought differently. The next 4 rds after this aint that easy with Port at AAMI, Sydney at MCG, Bombers- Dreamtime and Hawks at MCG. I would say for us to be in finals contention we would have to win say 4 of the next 5??
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I would say for us to be in finals contention we would have to win say 4 of the next 5??
I've always been of the belief that come the mid-season break you need to have the wins column ahead of the losses column or it break even
In our case this year by round 12 we need to be 7-5 or at the very least 6-6. Going into the run home (again just my take) as I reckon you are up against if you need to win more than 50% of the games remaining
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Going to need 13/14 wins this year to make the 8 so if we lose we would have to win 13 out of 18 games and that my friends aint going to happen.
Let's stop the losing culture and cultivate the winning culture this week less it's all over!!!
Oh, and one more thing? Thanks to the AFL for giving us the crappest draw in the AFL and assisting in keeping us down toward the bottom of the ladder in 2012. Why we would have to play Geelong at Skilled is beyond me?? Why play against the Eagles at the Dome?? Conspiracy???
Still gutted from Sunday and am thinking the Dome or G would have given us victory....
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Going to need 13/14 wins this year to make the 8 so if we lose we would have to win 13 out of 18 games and that my friends aint going to happen.
Interesting view pmac21 - I'm of the opposite, with the comp so close this season with I reckon 11 maybe 12 will get you in because there are so many clubs that are around the same mark.
The most important thing is going to be %. Big losses that wipe out % is what is most likely to cost teams
Oh, and one more thing? Thanks to the AFL for giving us the crappest draw in the AFL and assisting in keeping us down toward the bottom of the ladder in 2012. Why we would have to play Geelong at Skilled is beyond me?? Why play against the Eagles at the Dome?? Conspiracy???
All MCG tennant clubs must play at least 1 game at Etihad - not saying it is right or that I agree with it but it is how it works. Fourtunately we only have the one this season as opposed to the normal 2-3
As for the Geelong thing - not a doubt in my mind that we get drawn down there simply because we haven't been successful for the last 30 odd years. We start winning consistently, playing finals consistently and we have to go there. Again not saying it is right but for now it is how it is
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i reckon we are a show with this game. :thumbsup
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Funny isn't it, about 3 years ago I sat at Subi oval and watched us demolish the Eagles by 77 points in a clinical display I will never forget.
After that game I thought we would be on our way to the finals the following year and the Eagles would start a slide down the ladder that would, I hoped, continue for many years.....
Gee the contrast in positions since that game... :'(
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just shows, you should never read too much into one game
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Stating the obvious here -this is a season defining game.
However I doubt that the dome will hold many fears for the WCE.
Last year they had a convincing victory over Carlton at docklands.
West Coast have some power forwards plus two ruckmen who can rest forward...may streach our defence to breaking point.I can see why they are considering bringing in mcguane.
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The AFL site is tipping the Eagles to win by over 4 goals :-X
Preview: Richmond v West Coast
By Paul Daffey and Nathan Schmook
Tue 24 Apr, 2012
WHERE AND WHEN: Etihad Stadium, Sunday, April 29, 3.15pm
LAST TIME: West Coast 22.15 (147) d Richmond 14.6 (90), round 20, at Patersons Stadium
West Coast is on top of the ladder after four impressive victories, while Richmond is 13th with one victory. The ladder suggests an easy victory to the Eagles, but Richmond has put up spirited performances in its losses against three teams expected to push for the top four (Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong). The Eagles have won their only game in Melbourne this season, against the Bulldogs in round one, and another would confirm their premiership credentials.
THE FOUR POINTS
RICHMOND
1. The burning question surrounding the Tigers is whether they can take that extra step and score a victory over a highly rated opponent. They’ve been close in their three attempts in the opening rounds, losing after short lapses against experienced teams. A win over the Eagles would represent a huge step towards their aim of becoming a respected team.
2. The Tigers lost to Geelong by 10 points last Sunday after errors from half-back Steven Morris (four games) and Reece Conca (21 games) when the game was at its most tense late in the last quarter. Both had handballs smothered when teammates were in attacking positions. Coach Damien Hardwick says his team will improve only by getting games into the younger players. Morris and Conca will be keen to atone.
3. The form of Tyrone Vickery as a ruckman and forward leaves Richmond in a conundrum. After having only 23 disposals and taking 10 marks in the opening four rounds, Vickery is not in the sort of nick to help Ivan Maric take on the Eagles' celebrated ruck duo, Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui. The Tigers might take in an extra tall — you could put a case for any of Angus Graham, Tom Derickx or Andrew Browne — or it might just be the occasion for Vickery to play himself back into form.
4. While Richmond won the contested possession count against Geelong by 10, the Cats were better at getting the hard ball during the last quarter, which decided the game. Richmond just needs to hold its concentration and keep its composure and it will take a big scalp.
WEST COAST
1. Will West Coast continue to be awarded more free kicks than the opposition, particularly for high tackles, after Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson put the issue on the agenda this week? Luke Shuey (12), Ashton Hams (eight) and Scott Selwood (five) are among the top six players across the League this season for winning free kicks from high tackles, but the AFL says there is no issue with the 'shrug-tackle' technique Clarkson has highlighted.
2. The last time West Coast met Richmond in Melbourne, in round 12, 2010, Jack Riewoldt booted 10 goals and young Eagle Eric Mackenzie had his colours lowered. After an outstanding performance against Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin, however, Mackenzie is clearly a different prospect. The 23-year-old is stamping himself as a quality key defender and the pressure will be on Riewoldt to perform. RIewoldt has kicked just two goals from his last three games.
3. Midfielder Daniel Kerr burst back to form against Hawthorn, winning 33 possessions, nine clearances and kicking a vital late goal to be best afield. The Western Bulldogs and Greater Western Sydney have shut him down so far this season - holding him to seven and 13 possessions respectively - but can the Tigers contain the premiership on-baller now that he has some form behind him?
4. The conditions played a significant role in West Coast's inaccurate 5.21 (51) return against the Hawks, but key forward Josh Kennedy admitted this week a lack of composure was also a factor. Kennedy, Quinten Lynch and Jack Darling, who played a match-turning hand, combined for 3.7 in the greasy conditions while ruckmen Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui went goalless.
AFL.com.au prediction: West Coast by 26 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/133965/default.aspx
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
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West Coast midfielder Luke Shuey is a strong chance to play against Richmond on Sunday after receiving positive news on his injured shoulder.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/west-coast-midfielder-luke-shuey-to-be-given-every-opportunity-to-play-against-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226337265076 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/west-coast-midfielder-luke-shuey-to-be-given-every-opportunity-to-play-against-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226337265076)
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good if jackson plays here is his chance to do the right thing and bust his shoulder
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good if jackson plays here is his chance to do the right thing and bust his shoulder
Geezus man, thats a bit harsh, reported yes but not injured...keep it above board!!!
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The last game we played against them was the most ridiculous, umpire biased game and a travesty by anyones measure. I think even some of their supporters were embarrassed by the blatant umpiring favour shown in that one, you all remember that game right? Maybe down here we get a fair run on them this time.
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The last game we played against them was the most ridiculous, umpire biased game and a travesty by anyones measure. I think even some of their supporters were embarrassed by the blatant umpiring favour shown in that one, you all remember that game right? Maybe down here we get a fair run on them this time.
That's mostly due to 'Razor Ray' yeah? I think it was the week after us, or two after or something and the Bummers played them over there, it was atrocious too. I remember a West Toast bloke running outside the boundary with the ball, his Essendon opponent easing off his pressure, and then then he ran in and kicked a goal.
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I think even some of their supporters were embarrassed by the blatant umpiring favour shown in that one
Not likely
Maybe down here we get a fair run on them this time.
Not likely
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thats the spirit
, whos up for some celebratory Samwell?
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thats the spirit
, whos up for some celebratory Samwell?
Whose up for some celebratory pros?
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good if jackson plays here is his chance to do the right thing and bust his shoulder
The Eagles are stupid if they allow Shuey to play. One hit to that shoulder and his match will be over in the first 5 mins and West Coast will be forced to use their sub early.
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I don't rate their midfield but the problem is their rucks. Their rucks make an average midfield look good. Their forward line is dangerous as well. To have any chance of success need to curb their rucks and our forward line needs to function. We also cannot afford to have a quarter lapse. Would feel more confident if it was at the G. A win would really signify we are going in the right direction
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Lets forfeit and our players will be able to have a nice quiet weekend ;D
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Lets forfeit and our players will be able to have a nice quiet weekend ;D
I agree, they then can devote more time to Twitter
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I don't rate their midfield but the problem is their rucks. Their rucks make an average midfield look good. Their forward line is dangerous as well. To have any chance of success need to curb their rucks and our forward line needs to function. We also cannot afford to have a quarter lapse. Would feel more confident if it was at the G. A win would really signify we are going in the right direction
I think we all know we are heading in the right direction. Two years ago we were a basket case, completely uncompetitive with everyone comparing us to Fitzroy. Now we are being talked about as an outside chance of beating a premiership favourite! If that's not going in the right direction, I don't know what is?
I guess we are talking about the speed of reaching our goals. Beating WCE will certainly accelerate our expectations!
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Lets forfeit and our players will be able to have a nice quiet weekend ;D
I agree, they then can devote more time to Twitter
Club should ban all players from using Twitter and Facebook, they can just stick to watching pornos :lol
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Can't see us winning with the form they are in, our crappy and arrogant fwds and carrying guys like Jackson et al. Should be at least a 6 goal loss and if we are even slightly more off than last week (which wasnt great) get ready to bend over.
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Can't see us winning with the form they are in, our crappy and arrogant fwds and carrying guys like Jackson et al. Should be at least a 6 goal loss and if we are even slightly more off than last week (which wasnt great) get ready to bend over.
I'm all lubed up with no where to go ;)
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
So if we play to 100% and they play to 100% and we lose, is that an honourable loss?
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
So if we play to 100% and they play to 100% and we lose, is that an honourable loss?
Honourable mention on the matter from you GR12. :lol :rollin :lol
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
So if we play to 100% and they play to 100% and we lose, is that an honourable loss?
Honourable mention on the matter from you GR12. :lol :rollin :lol
Thanks Tucker, i have put my head on the block.
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
So if we play to 100% and they play to 100% and we lose, is that an honourable loss?
Honourable mention on the matter from you GR12. :lol :rollin :lol
Thanks Tucker, i have put my head on the block.
An act that deserved an honourable mention. :thumbsup
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WEST Coast coach John Worsfold is confident key midfielder Luke Shuey will be fit to take on Richmond at Etihad Stadium on Sunday.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/west-coast-eagles-midfielder-luke-shuey-set-to-line-up-against-richmond-tigers/story-e6frf9jf-1226338059801
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
So if we play to 100% and they play to 100% and we lose, is that an honourable loss?
Did you accept the "honourable loss" against the Cats???? Will you accept it this time?????
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WP said it aginst the Cats, our 100% best game is not enough to match the Cats at 100%....same goes here I am afraid.
Our ruck/s can't run with and match Cox and Nat all day...
Must at least give Gus a go and make him run run run, all freaking day with Cox.
So if we play to 100% and they play to 100% and we lose, is that an honourable loss?
Did you accept the "honourable loss" against the Cats???? Will you accept it this time?????
In short, i do accept the honourable loss. Is this the best outcome i wished for? No. I accept it because it happened and we have to use that game to better inform the team for such future games. Like this weeks game. At the moment i want a win, an hounarable loss will not be good enough as i am making the trek down the Hume Fwy with my two young sons to watch it. Come Monday, if we have played our best and still lose, i will probably begin to accept an honourable loss. Some pretty warped logic there, sorry.
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The club is not accepting any defeats ,honerable or otherwise any more, nor am I
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The club is not accepting any defeats ,honerable or otherwise any more, nor am I
Well, unfortunately, there will be more defeats; both honourable or otherwise.
Won't be long though Gigantor when they will become very rare :thumbsup
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The club is not accepting any defeats ,honerable or otherwise any more, nor am I
And I am with you!!!!!!
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The club is not accepting any defeats ,honerable or otherwise any more, nor am I
Well, unfortunately, there will be more defeats; both honourable or otherwise.
Won't be long though Gigantor when they will become very rare :thumbsup
An honourable defeat may be accepted when we lose less than we win and we are cemented in the top 8, at the moment why would you accept it....
Gee, let me guess, development, young kids, umpires, weather, travel, experienced players against ours ::) ::) ::)..............WHEN WILL THE EXCUSES STOP????? Yes I know you heard me... ;D
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sheesh just realised i cant spell honourable either.......ok time to stop those painfully dry martinis
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The club is not accepting any defeats ,honerable or otherwise any more, nor am I
Well, unfortunately, there will be more defeats; both honourable or otherwise.
Won't be long though Gigantor when they will become very rare :thumbsup
An honourable defeat may be accepted when we lose less than we win and we are cemented in the top 8, at the moment why would you accept it....
Gee, let me guess, development, young kids, umpires, weather, travel, experienced players against ours ::) ::) ::)..............WHEN WILL THE EXCUSES STOP????? Yes I know you heard me... ;D
I just noticed the change of name :thumbsup
IMO, we are still developing. Conca, Morris, Ellis, Grimes and Martin are still developing. Umpires, i won't wear as an excuse nor will i weather.
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The club is not accepting any defeats ,honerable or otherwise any more, nor am I
Well, unfortunately, there will be more defeats; both honourable or otherwise.
Won't be long though Gigantor when they will become very rare :thumbsup
An honourable defeat may be accepted when we lose less than we win and we are cemented in the top 8, at the moment why would you accept it....
Gee, let me guess, development, young kids, umpires, weather, travel, experienced players against ours ::) ::) ::)..............WHEN WILL THE EXCUSES STOP????? Yes I know you heard me... ;D
I just noticed the change of name :thumbsup
IMO, we are still developing. Conca, Morris, Ellis, Grimes and Martin are still developing. Umpires, i won't wear as an excuse nor will i weather.
Haha, thought I could get away with that.....
Martin, Grimes, Conca, Morris should be playing very decent footy at the moment and all are as is Ellis so they are not to blame IMO. Riewoldt, Martin, Nahas, Newman, Edwards etc....they are the ones letting us down, they are the NO EXCUSES players..
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lol edwards didnt play last week. i would thought, from your point of view, that was the best thing he could have done?
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lol edwards didnt play last week. i would thought, from your point of view, that was the best thing he could have done?
As per usual al you didn't understand my post or twisted it! I was generalising form round one and the acceptence of the defeats so far and accountable players so far....... wake up :sleep
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Starting to side more and more with WAT (or is it PQT now? :D). Essendon are playing pretty good footy with a list full of mostly nobodies, average second tiers and a lengthy injury list. Don't see any more what our excuse really is other than players (read: forward line) with their fingers up their bums. I don't have any personal beefs with blokes like Jacko, Vickory, or Edwards, I just want them to play decent footy.
:gotigers
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Starting to side more and more with WAT (or is it PQT now? :D). Essendon are playing pretty good footy with a list full of mostly nobodies, average second tiers and a lengthy injury list. Don't see any more what our excuse really is other than players (read: forward line) with their fingers up their bums. I don't have any personal beefs with blokes like Jacko, Vickory, or Edwards, I just want them to play decent footy.
:gotigers
Good on you Dwaino...thats exactly what I have been trying to get at......What about PNGQ Tiger....yeah thats better, thanks for the insperation... ;D
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Starting to side more and more with WAT (or is it PQT now? :D). Essendon are playing pretty good footy with a list full of mostly nobodies, average second tiers and a lengthy injury list. Don't see any more what our excuse really is other than players (read: forward line) with their fingers up their bums. I don't have any personal beefs with blokes like Jacko, Vickory, or Edwards, I just want them to play decent footy.
:gotigers
Not sure it is about taking sides. Anyway the casting vote has been made. End of argument ;)
With no more excuses i can see the Tigers causing everyone's mental health to be further compromised :)
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Starting to side more and more with WAT (or is it PQT now? :D). Essendon are playing pretty good footy with a list full of mostly nobodies, average second tiers and a lengthy injury list. Don't see any more what our excuse really is other than players (read: forward line) with their fingers up their bums. I don't have any personal beefs with blokes like Jacko, Vickory, or Edwards, I just want them to play decent footy.
:gotigers
Not sure it is about taking sides. Anyway the casting vote has been made. End of argument ;)
With no more excuses i can see the Tigers causing everyone's mental health to be further compromised :)
Oh, I just mean before the start of the season there were the "no excuses!" crowd, and the "no, we're still developing pussies" crowd. I sympathised with the former but sided more with the latter. Safe to say I am now more with the former :D
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Starting to side more and more with WAT (or is it PQT now? :D). Essendon are playing pretty good footy with a list full of mostly nobodies, average second tiers and a lengthy injury list. Don't see any more what our excuse really is other than players (read: forward line) with their fingers up their bums. I don't have any personal beefs with blokes like Jacko, Vickory, or Edwards, I just want them to play decent footy.
:gotigers
Not sure it is about taking sides. Anyway the casting vote has been made. End of argument ;)
With no more excuses i can see the Tigers causing everyone's mental health to be further compromised :)
Dead right it's not about taking sides but as Dwaino said, it's about these players that are not that good and even the ones that are, pulling their fingers out and playing every game like it's their last. Thats what makes a team, thats what the Bombers are doing and thats what the Pies started to do many years ago, thats why they are where they are, even the Blues.
When will our players stand up????
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Starting to side more and more with WAT (or is it PQT now? :D). Essendon are playing pretty good footy with a list full of mostly nobodies, average second tiers and a lengthy injury list. Don't see any more what our excuse really is other than players (read: forward line) with their fingers up their bums. I don't have any personal beefs with blokes like Jacko, Vickory, or Edwards, I just want them to play decent footy.
:gotigers
Not sure it is about taking sides. Anyway the casting vote has been made. End of argument ;)
With no more excuses i can see the Tigers causing everyone's mental health to be further compromised :)
Oh, I just mean before the start of the season there were the "no excuses!" crowd, and the "no, we're still developing pussies" crowd. I sympathised with the former but sided more with the latter. Safe to say I am now more with the former :D
:lol
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Just wanted to know what end the Richmond cheer squad is on this week??
I would guess Coventry? but wanted to clarify before buying tickets
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It pains me to say this however I believe West Coast may be the best team in the competition (at the minute).
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Just wanted to know what end the Richmond cheer squad is on this week??
I would guess Coventry? but wanted to clarify before buying tickets
Is the Coventry End the Station end?
If yes then you would think that's where our cheersquad will be - they are always there ;D
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Sportal is also predicting the Eagles to win by 26 points ...
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WE THINK:
The Eagles should win this one but we can expect another concerted effort from the Tigers.
Key will be the Tigers ability to stand up to the Eagles' all-ground press and their ferocious attack on the ball. Hardwick's men have shown far greater composure under pressure and perhaps more importantly, consistency in their opening four games.
The Eagles' much-vaunted tall forward trio of Jack Darling, Quinten Lynch and Josh Kennedy combined for just three goals last week but the team only kicked five and the conditions were hardly conducive.
Last time the sides met in Melbourne, Jack Riewoldt booted 10 goals on a hapless Eric Mackenzie. The mobile defender poses a far different prospect now though and held Lance Franklin (one goal) superbly last week while picking up 27 disposals himself.
Hardwick may be forced to make a decision on out-of-form ruckman/forward Tyrone Vickery. A combined 23 touches and 10 marks in four games is hardly the kind of form you want to be taking in against the best ruck duo in the competition in Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui.
Angus Graham may get the nod to help Ivan Maric, who has been serviceable but will have his work cut out on Sunday. The Eagles' disposal efficiency has improved on last season and they are so strong through the midfield with Kerr, Priddis, Scott Selwood and the aforementioned rucks, who combined will have too much firepower for the Tigers.
West Coast by 26 points.
Read full preview at: http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/preview-richmond-v-west-coast-173299
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Just wanted to know what end the Richmond cheer squad is on this week??
I would guess Coventry? but wanted to clarify before buying tickets
Is the Coventry End the Station end?
If yes then you would think that's where our cheersquad will be - they are always there ;D
Yep the Coventry End is the southern (Bourke St/Southern Cross station) end and that's where our cheer squad sits.
Etihad Stadium seating map: http://www.etihadstadium.com.au/site/_content/document/00000073-source.pdf
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We are huge underdogs with the bookies and so-called footy journo experts ...
Betting Odds (source: tab sportsbet)
Richmond $3.25
West Coast $1.35
Expert Tips
Herald-Sun 2 - 28
The Age 2 - 22 ....... Lloyd has tipped us mind you.
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Richo and Leppa preview the Eagles game ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/444032/Roar%20Preview:%20round%205/
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Richo and Leppa preview the Eagles game ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/444032/Roar%20Preview:%20round%205/
Leppa has done a wonderful job with the backline...............who is our Forward-line Coach again???...And isn't Richo just the consumate media performer :cheers
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We are huge underdogs with the bookies and so-called footy journo experts ...
Betting Odds (source: tab sportsbet)
Richmond $3.25
West Coast $1.35
Expert Tips
Herald-Sun 2 - 28
The Age 2 - 22 ....... Lloyd has tipped us mind you.
lloyd is a moron at the best of times.
Anyhoot, wait till the eagles drift to $1.50+ then load up
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We can win Jack, make no bones about it!! But the unforced errors must be stopped, poor decsions stopped and the forwards must click and play in their correct positions.....we can win!!!
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
$4.65 for 4 goals and under
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knowing my luck, they will win by 25 points
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lay off with a line bet.
i learned that lesson against port in 2010
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We will win this one, eagles were softened up last week against the hawks and we should be hungry after letting a few opportunities go.
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Would be super confident if the game was at the G but its at etihard stadium.
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We will win this one, eagles were softened up last week against the hawks and we should be hungry after letting a few opportunities go.
Oh please we will get out throats cut
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what's happened to you dubface? you used to be so full of life. so, so...innocent....
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what's happened to you dubface? you used to be so full of life. so, so...innocent....
Someone has to take on the Coaches role while he's not around.
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No no, not at all.
Just know our limits.
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We can win Jack, make no bones about it!! But the unforced errors must be stopped, poor decsions stopped and the forwards must click and play in their correct positions.....we can win!!!
No excuses
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Would be super confident if the game was at the G but its at etihard stadium.
Same here Mrakov. For some reason I'd feel more confident if the game was at the 'G. Having said that we've never lost to the Eagles at Docklands.
The other thing to consider is the Eagles have had a soft draw apart from the tough game last week against the Hawks. Dogs, Dees and Giants in the first 3 rounds is a nice gift of a fixture to get their season started on a roll. Compare that to us who have had to face three top 4 sides. I guess we'll find out where both sides are truly at on Sunday.
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Team as listed on the official RFC app has Vickery, webbs and White as the emgs
Gus and Griff on the bench with Dea and Ellis
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Also has Shuey as emg for WC
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We will win this one, eagles were softened up last week against the hawks and we should be hungry after letting a few opportunities go.
Oh please we will get out throats cut
we shall see, smaller spaces of ettihad will make it harder for them to isolate their big fwds, if we're on we'll win and i dont normally beat my chest about winning with our mob
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I think that if we play to the standard we did last week and maybe one of our big forwards stands up, then we will give them a good shake.
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We will win this one, eagles were softened up last week against the hawks and we should be hungry after letting a few opportunities go.
Oh please we will get out throats cut
we shall see, smaller spaces of ettihad will make it harder for them to isolate their big fwds, if we're on we'll win and i dont normally beat my chest about winning with our mob
Hope your right. I'll eat humble pie if you are :burgereater
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Dee's one point behind the Saints at the moment, having a real crack, win or lose, having a red hot go....
NO EXCUSES Tiges..... :gotigers
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We will win this one, eagles were softened up last week against the hawks and we should be hungry after letting a few opportunities go.
Oh please we will get out throats cut
we shall see, smaller spaces of ettihad will make it harder for them to isolate their big fwds, if we're on we'll win and i dont normally beat my chest about winning with our mob
Hope your right. I'll eat humble pie if you are :burgereater
If I'm not I'm :outtahere. ;D
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Money for West Coast to remain unbeaten
28/4/2012 6:31 PM
Paul Gough, Betting Editor - Sportal
League leaders West Coast have been the best backed team of Round 5 to continue their unbeaten start to the season against Richmond at Etihad Stadium on Sunday.
The Tigers have won three of their past five games against the Eagles and all three previous meetings between the teams at Docklands, but that has not stopped the punters from queuing up to back John Worsfold's team.
"The Eagles, at $1.33, have easily been the best backed team of the round and the punters are gobbling up what appears to be a good odds for a team that is flying," sportsbet.com.au's Shaun Anderson said.
TAB Sportsbet's Adam Hamilton said there has been 'an avalanche of money for the Eagles'.
"The Eagles have been backed in from $1.50 to $1.35 (Richmond is at $3.25) and we have taken $70,000 on the Eagles and just $1500 on Richmond," he said.
Full article at: http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/money-for-west-coast-to-remain-unbeaten-173766
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Such a MASSIVE game for the club - We can do this!!!!!! :gotigers
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today is the measuring stick
the old ' crunch ball game'
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If we get close and I hear those words 'Honorable loss' - seriously in the words of the tanned one I'll spew up :chuck
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CUB I dont think the club itself is using the term "honourable loss' is it?..its more the fans and posters here i reckon
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sorry but Dimma has used it at least 4 times in the past 2 months, saying ''honourable losses wont be acceptable"
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lol jack......ok in strict terms he has has used the term "honourable loss' but he means it wont be acceptable which is my point regarding the clubs view on this point
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CUB I dont think the club itself is using the term "honourable loss' is it?..its more the fans and posters here i reckon
Not necessarily the club, just in general - I want a win
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This is shaping as....dare I say it :-[........an old fashoined Wallace 'crunch game'. :lol
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If we get close and I hear those words 'Honorable loss' - seriously in the words of the tanned one I'll spew up :chuck
:rollin
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Footy experts :chuck on Sunday footy show reckon today is a big chance of an upset.
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Hawks look like last week's slugfest and the travel has had no effect on them early, smashing Sydney
Eagles should be right up for us
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Heading off now to the game. As long as we collectively bring hardness and intensity at the footy then anything can happen. A big day for Jack and TV but a bigger one for our midfield. Keep the pressure up so our defence isn't exposed to open rebounds and entries inside the Eagles forward line. Our press should in theory work better on the smaller Etihad.
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Heading off now to the game. As long as we collectively bring hardness and intensity at the footy then anything can happen. A big day for Jack and TV but a bigger one for our midfield. Keep the pressure up so our defence isn't exposed to open rebounds and entries inside the Eagles forward line. Our press should in theory work better on the smaller Etihad.
Carn the Tige's :gotigers :gotigers
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Hawks look like last week's slugfest and the travel has had no effect on them early, smashing Sydney
Eagles should be right up for us
Hawks dropped right off after half time
Swans in front now
Need to stay with the Eagles and hopefully run over the top of them
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Hawks look like last week's slugfest and the travel has had no effect on them early, smashing Sydney
Eagles should be right up for us
may have made that call to early. Sydney have kicked 4.2 to zip nearing the end of the 3rd 1/4.
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Loving the pressure. I hope we don't lose another 2nd quarter. With any luck Jacko will cop a holiday for dropping Selwood. Only thing I'm worried about is how easily Wet Toast can score when they bang it into their forward 50 quickly. Maric is playing a ripper game so far sweeping across the back 50.
Dea.... 0 touches, 2 frees against :lol
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It's frustrating watching this. We're playing great. But WC just bomb it deep and let their giants get it. No skill...BTW Loved that mark and goal from Jack!
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if we draw or lose by a point there needs to be a court case ;D
that last behind was called a rushed behind, but it came after the siren - score should not count.
Once again i can see why they want griffiths to become a backman. we just need that taller backman to counter the taller forwards
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I hate o say it but how handy would McGuane be right now! Dea hasn't gone near it, he's providing nothing, it least McGuane could fill a hole ::)
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Lids back on - knee strapped.
Gee whiz Dea 1 handball 1 tackle :-\
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I hate o say it but how handy would McGuane be right now! Dea hasn't gone near it, he's providing nothing, it least McGuane could fill a hole ::)
Don't even go there TFT, he SHOULD be in!
Now is Lids ok, do we have any other injuries and why aren't we winning.... ;D
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:gotigers
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What's wrong with Ellis...subbed off..???
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:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers.........
...4 points up..... :pray
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NO EXCUSES IF WE LOSE...........NONE!!!
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Eagles by 7....... :banghead :banghead
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Fair dinkum, if we don't win this we are stuffed, mentally weak.
MUST WIN
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Costly missed tackles and can we get some 50/50 decisions go our way. Tired of hearing Commetti and Watson talking up the Eagles
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Bad miss by Jack and Deledio goes close.
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eff it!
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:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
:scream :scream :scream :scream :scream :scream
:help :help :help :help :sleep :help :help :help :help
stuffing USELESS!!!!
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I hate to say it but the selection of Dea lost the game for us! Way to short down back and there forwards dominated! McGuane, Post or Griffiths FFS could have done more tha Dea :banghead :banghead, for the first time I'm going to say it, that's a strike against the Coach and the selection committee. They should hang there heads in shame :banghead :banghead
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Devastated. That's all I can say.
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Walk away dimma this club will ruin you
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Get stuffed!!!
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Not enough class in the side to beat the eagles. Thats it in a nutshell. Hardwick has improved them but he needs better players. At least 3 or 4 quality players short at this stage.
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Barracking for this club must be a heart health hazard.....I'm going away to meditate.
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Not enough class in the side to beat the eagles. Thats it in a nutshell. Hardwick has improved them but he needs better players. At least 3 or 4 quality players short at this stage.
rubbish! stuff class u can win lacking it, look at the bombers! We should have won, lack of composure across the board, not pointing fingers at any one individual bc they all tried hard, but at various times they all stuffed up gimmes. Composure would have seen us win today, I'm stuffing filthy about this
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Not enough class in the side to beat the eagles. Thats it in a nutshell. Hardwick has improved them but he needs better players. At least 3 or 4 quality players short at this stage.
yeah, that's a fair call ramps. hopefully players like ellis and conca can become those quality players.
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Not enough class in the side to beat the eagles. Thats it in a nutshell. Hardwick has improved them but he needs better players. At least 3 or 4 quality players short at this stage.
yeah, that's a fair call ramps. hopefully players like ellis and conca can become those quality players.
Bla bla bla.....that's what your comments are sounding like these days.......do the Eagles have the same......maybe one day ........bal bla stuffing bla
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Each week we head the stats (except for frees our way):
K H D M HO T FF FA G B DT
+25 +2 +27 +31 -12 -3 -4 +4 -2 +7 +127
But lose it anyway :banghead
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Each week we head the stats (except for frees our way):
K H D M HO T FF FA G B DT
+25 +2 +27 +31 -12 -3 -4 +4 -2 +7 +127
But lose it anyway :banghead
Oh hang on I forget to mention this one:
Clanger = +10 ;)
And the leaders in the clanger group are......wait for it...........Tuck and ...........guess who??????.......that's right our man Jacko :thumbsup
The Rising Star Clanger Award BTW goes to Matt Dea who had 2 possesions, both of which were: CLANGERS!
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Not enough class in the side to beat the eagles. Thats it in a nutshell. Hardwick has improved them but he needs better players. At least 3 or 4 quality players short at this stage.
yeah, that's a fair call ramps. hopefully players like ellis and conca can become those quality players.
Bla bla bla.....that's what your comments are sounding like these days.......do the Eagles have the same......maybe one day ........bal bla stuffing bla
bottom line, we were not good enough. pretty simple really.
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How Matt Dea got a game is beyond belief
If they played McGaune will probably win
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Honourable loss.
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Yes another honorable loss
Can anyone tell me what Rance was doing hand balling in the last quarter ?
Laughable
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Yes another honorable loss
Can anyone tell me what Rance was doing hand balling in the last quarter ?
Laughable
batman is out of the closet
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I'm not going to use that word this evening as i think the playing group themselves would be kicking themselves tonight for simply just playing dumb at certain stages
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We are going to smash some of the weaker sides this year and be competitive in all games if we keep playing with this intensity
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Jacsktar loves a loss! :thumbsup
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Jacsktar loves a loss! :thumbsup
Hate losing big time
am over it.
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We are going to smash some of the weaker sides this year and be competitive in all games if we keep playing with this intensity
I envy your matter of fact belief bc we lose to port next week? then all this means stuff all
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We are going to smash some of the weaker sides this year and be competitive in all games if we keep playing with this intensity
I envy your matter of fact belief bc we lose to port next week? then all this means stuff all
Couldnt agree more, it is just as big a game as melbourne was
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Class defeated us in the last 10 minutes at Kardinia Park and class defeated us again today. We dont have enough class in the side. Mind you Nahas swearing at the umps and giving up possession which then went down the other end for an Eagles goal in the last quarter was a terrible error in my book.
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i reckon the nahas incident stems from the trend of players constantly appealing to the umps. it poos me to tears. it's not cricket, you dont have to appeal to get a decision. just play the effing game and get on with it. sometimes it looks like the players are competing in a bird man competition, flapping their arms at the arms and squawking like old chooks. it's pathetic really.
just concentrate on what you can effect, get the effing pill
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well said Al
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Nahas was the worst player on the ground today.
Waht will pi$$ me off with him is we have a win next week and he kicks 4 when today all he needed to do was hit a target with a two metre handball without causing a turnover and not try and take on too many when a dish off was all that was required.
In a tight game like that its errors like this that are team shattering and fan sapping. He cost us 3 goals.
GO on Robbie kick 4 next week and high five everyone. ::)
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Class defeated us in the last 10 minutes at Kardinia Park and class defeated us again today. We dont have enough class in the side. Mind you Nahas swearing at the umps and giving up possession which then went down the other end for an Eagles goal in the last quarter was a terrible error in my book.
Even though he had every right to swear - some of the decisions today were as inconsistent as you ever see.
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what ever happened to home ground decisions? ..i want some
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We only got a few in the last qtr going our way, the umps must have realised how pee poor they had been
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Hawks look like last week's slugfest and the travel has had no effect on them early, smashing Sydney
Eagles should be right up for us
may have made that call to early. Sydney have kicked 4.2 to zip nearing the end of the 3rd 1/4.
Go hard go early that's the gerk way
I assume it's yours too given the post yours came after crocodile rocker?
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I think the difference between the teams was summed up by one passage of play where WC had three contested marks in a row. Cox, Naitanui and Darling all taking pack marks and WC went easily from back 50 to forward 50. Unfortunately we had to run the ball and work a lot harder to maintain possession due to the fact that we are not strong in contested marking. When the Tigers manned up WC simply kicked long to a pack and 9 times out of 10 came away with the mark or possession. When the Tigers were in a similar position they just couldn't do the same thing and that indecision led to unfortunate turnovers.
The biggest turning point of the game without doubt was when Jack marked on 50 and tried to short pass to Martin, resulting turnover a goal to WC at a crucial stage when momentum was with us. 2 seasons ago Jack would have drilled the ball through the middle of the big sticks from that distance. Its history now but he did have the chance to make amends later in the game but just doesn't seem as fluent in his kicking action as he has in the past.
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LIDS :thumbsup
people call this bloke soft too
NFI :lol
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shattered - tight contest, we had a big crack, but just weren't good enough in the final 10 mins.
A few errors when we needed class and solid execution is what cost us.
Nahas was off his game.. completely smashed by his opponent. Jacks soft turnover in the last was a real howler.
WE definitely had our chances but just didnt have the polish when it counted.
Very hard to swallow the losses these last 2 weeks.
Umpires gave eagles some very dubious free kicks, Kerr seems to be a favorite of the maggots lately.
Another "what could have been".
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what ever happened to home ground decisions? ..i want some
You'd think. ::)
Sitting on the railway wing side bottom level when the Eagles were up 101-95 from the centre bounce the ball spilled in the centre square bouncing out but still in a central position
Hold 1 on Cotch play on, Cotch still paddling the ball in front of him still held on to from his other hand play on, Hold 3 the ball reached the lest we forget logo on the wing with Cotch still held on to paddling the ball play on was the call Hold 4 ten metres inside the line on the railway wing of Etihad the umpire who was looking at this for a whole 10-15 seconds finally decides to blow the whistle and award the free kick. Umpiring at its most diabolical yet the whistle to mouth on some decisions that favoured the Eagles were measured in the nanoseconds.
That one against Tuck late in the game on the Medallion wing on Hamms was just woeful. If a player cannot go for the ball without umps penalising them for stupidity yet ignore decisions the other way then no wonder the umpiring fraternity are perceived as such even with former players like Jordan Bannister joining the crew in slime green who umpire via the Giesche video and don't use players intuition on how the game is played.
Steve McBurney was atrocious today.
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LIDS :thumbsup
people call this bloke soft too
NFI :lol
Can be great but has never had a solid,superstar season.
It's not due to his inability..............
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LIDS :thumbsup
people call this bloke soft too
NFI :lol
Was great today but the difference of very good player to superstar is kick that goal in the last to put us up 102-101. Superstars kick it. Bartel kicked two of those in the GF from that distance out last year. Therein lies our answer. :thumbsup
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Anyone reckon Ellis subbed off for White was premature? I thought he looked damaging playing as a nuggety midfielder, winnin footy and cruising up forward. White for Nahas IMO would of been a greater decision.
Ellis was a ripper recruit to help unlock Lids. Now we need another great back flanker/outsider to unleash Ellis into the midfield full time. The bloke is going to be a superstar.
I'm still shattered and reckon most of you fellas have the negative points covered. While losing by even 1 to the top side in the comp doesn't give you any points, we would of beaten 15 other sides in the comp today, squibs and errors aside. Doesn't mean squat if we can't roll Port over there next week though.
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Bartel is 40 years old and never played in a poo team
He's also missed some
Lids has kicked them before
Anyone reckon Ellis subbed off for White was premature?
Yes
Had gone into the middle
Kicked one
set one up
then subbed
White's first contribution was a dropped mark, got better but I think Nahas should have been subbed
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Anyone reckon Ellis subbed off for White was premature? I thought he looked damaging playing as a nuggety midfielder, winnin footy and cruising up forward. White for Nahas IMO would of been a greater decision.
Staggering decision that seemed pre-planned because if it was simply based on output for the game he shouldn't have been subbed off
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Agree Gerks.
I actually dont mind White. He leads hard.
I wouldn't mind him having an extended run in the forward line.
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Nahas should of been subbed off
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Great game, as l said many times before l dont care if they win or lose. Its the brand of football they play & thier skill level.
Confidence is building & Hardwick is ready to give a few a wake up call. Good Times ahead.
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Any word on lids possible leg/knee injury? Looked gone when he was helped off, can't believe he made it back on.
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Any word on lids possible leg/knee injury? Looked gone when he was helped off, can't believe he made it back on.
tough cookie lids, has happened once before against freo if i recall, looked gawn and 20 mins later was back out there. Loved his run and carry tonight, was damaging, pity about the goal but today is not the day to point at isolated incidents, there were a shitload of opportunities missed by many players,
if only tuck/newman et al tackled priddis 20 meters from our goals twice instead of allowing him to dish handballs for goals, if only jack kicked those goals, if only those frees werent paid, if only martin kicked that goal, if only cotch kicked that goal, if only lids kicked that goal, all bar the lids one were monty's! we had a shitload of gimme chances today unforced errors and lack of composure from an inexperienced side
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For some stupid reason i think the tiges can win
although you probably want $5.00 till you put the hard earned on
$3.25 is way too short
We will win this one, eagles were softened up last week against the hawks and we should be hungry after letting a few opportunities go.
Oh please we will get out throats cut
we shall see, smaller spaces of ettihad will make it harder for them to isolate their big fwds, if we're on we'll win and i dont normally beat my chest about winning with our mob
Hope your right. I'll eat humble pie if you are :burgereater
If I'm not I'm :outtahere. ;D
Don't think I haven't forgotten about this!
Nah, well split the difference I think. Half way between a throat cut and a win :thumbsup
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Tony, Tony, Tony, if only Matt Dea could play, no excuses but he's clearly the reason we lost
Nahas should of been subbed off
Eff me, did you just agree with the Gerk :shh
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deal DD :thumbsup
on fire tonight gerks :lol
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Had to wait until now to jump on the site. Was so peeed off I couldn't trust myself to jump on. Despite being incredibly disappointed and downright nicked off we came so close, there were many positives.
I was wrapped to see our forwardline start to improve - still not firing like last year but a big improvement none-the-less. Big Ivan was fanatastic against the best ruck team in the league. Our midfield more than matched their's and our backline was superb. Batchelor and Rance cut off a huge percentage of forward entries, Morris put his body on the line continuously, Houli and Newman gave us excellent delievery out of defence and Grimes was his 'go-go gadget arm' self.
We were so close, it still &*#%^ hurts. :'(
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Had to wait until now to jump on the site. Was so peeed off I couldn't trust myself to jump on. Despite being incredibly disappointed and downright nicked off we came so close, there were many positives.
I was wrapped to see our forwardline start to improve - still not firing like last year but a big improvement none-the-less. Big Ivan was fanatastic against the best ruck team in the league. Our midfield more than matched their's and our backline was superb. Batchelor and Rance cut off a huge percentage of forward entries, Morris put his body on the line continuously, Houli and Newman gave us excellent delievery out of defence and Grimes was his 'go-go gadget arm' self.
We were so close, it still &*#%^ hurts. :'(
Now if we can get Jack to fire...
:cheers
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Had to wait until now to jump on the site. Was so peeed off I couldn't trust myself to jump on. Despite being incredibly disappointed and downright nicked off we came so close, there were many positives.
I was wrapped to see our forwardline start to improve - still not firing like last year but a big improvement none-the-less. Big Ivan was fanatastic against the best ruck team in the league. Our midfield more than matched their's and our backline was superb. Batchelor and Rance cut off a huge percentage of forward entries, Morris put his body on the line continuously, Houli and Newman gave us excellent delievery out of defence and Grimes was his 'go-go gadget arm' self.
We were so close, it still &*#%^ hurts. :'(
Stripes is hurting....his teary face is glitching
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Ellis shortstepped/seagulled/spectated/avoided a number of contests. It was blatant. They shot to Dimma after one and you could see it in his response. I was surprised that Ellis lasted so long.
It looks like he is overawed by the body size/speed of the game at times, because he can and does commit at other times. But he does avoid some.
Compare to say Houli who stood in the hole and flew across a pack to snag three or four strong grabs. Gone up a level in that department has Houli.
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Nahas should of been subbed off
nahas shouldn't be in the team. He is a second rate, second string reserves star that is too small and too skinny for the big league. I'm with Daniel on this, I'm sick of these fantasy island wannabe AFL footy players that won't ever get us into a grand final. Our standards as a footy club are still way too low.
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Flying to WA Tuesday to organise a few things before relocating to Brisbane.....
Thanks Tiges, now I have to listen to the crap Eagles supporters gloating......AGAIN.
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Nahas should of been subbed off
nahas shouldn't be in the team. He is a second rate, second string reserves star that is too small and too skinny for the big league. I'm with Daniel on this, I'm sick of these fantasy island wannabe AFL footy players that won't ever get us into a grand final. Our standards as a footy club are still way too low.
:clapping
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The holding the.ball.on.conca.in 1stQ was an abortion of a call
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Plenty of pics from yesterday's game...
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Great game, as l said many times before l dont care if they win or lose. Its the brand of football they play & thier skill level.
Confidence is building & Hardwick is ready to give a few a wake up call. Good Times ahead.
Fully agree TM.
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Brett, Dusty and Trent were outstanding. They were inspirational. Newman played a fantastic game and really stood up. Maric played well. Tyrone played better. Grigg was good. Dea's courage saved a certain goal in the last quarter. Batch played a good game particularly in 2 Quarter. For me the biggest disappointments were Foley's game (his disposal really let the team down) and Nahas. Houli had a quiet one. For me we went into the game too short and we paid for it. In the second quarter the eagles got alot of cheap marks in the forward 50 which could have been prevented if we had a third tall backman. Our kicking for goal needs to be improved.
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Compare to say Houli who stood in the hole and flew across a pack to snag three or four strong grabs. Gone up a level in that department has Houli.
Yep he did but before that did you miss Houli stopping & proping on the outer wing in the 2nd I think it was where he clearly pulled up to miss the contact. I wonder if that was pointed out to him at half time because after than he certainly didn't shirk any contest
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Compare to say Houli who stood in the hole and flew across a pack to snag three or four strong grabs. Gone up a level in that department has Houli.
Yep he did but before that did you miss Houli stopping & proping on the outer wing in the 2nd I think it was where he clearly pulled up to miss the contact. I wonder if that was pointed out to him at half time because after than he certainly didn't shirk any contest
Yeah I do recall that. Didn't look good, did it. I tend to allow every player one "moment". Repeated and I have questions. They're not all Kellaways. ;D ;D ;D
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Hawks look like last week's slugfest and the travel has had no effect on them early, smashing Sydney
Eagles should be right up for us
may have made that call to early. Sydney have kicked 4.2 to zip nearing the end of the 3rd 1/4.
Go hard go early that's the gerk way
I assume it's yours too given the post yours came after crocodile rocker?
;D
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LIDS :thumbsup
people call this bloke soft too
NFI :lol
Was great today but the difference of very good player to superstar is kick that goal in the last to put us up 102-101. Superstars kick it. Bartel kicked two of those in the GF from that distance out last year. Therein lies our answer. :thumbsup
This - It is a lot of pressure on Lids but he needs to be one of our goto men that do this ......
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CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR
Mark Robinson - The Tackle
Herald-Sun
April 30, 2012
They might be the best 1-4 side we've seen for some time, but it doesn't translate to wins.
The problem is the Tigers don't know yet how to win the close ones.
They had a chance to draw level with Carlton in the final quarter. They let the Pies off the leash for 10 minutes. They failed at Geelong. And yesterday let the Eagles go home undefeated to their fortress.
The Tigers don't yet have the composure at the death to make right decisions or execute the right skill, a quality that separates good teams from so-so teams, and good players from great players.
In Adelaide, Graham Johncock kicked the huge goal from 55m-plus in the final quarter. It was a high-pressure moment.
At Etihad, Jack Riewoldt and Brett Deledio missed two last-quarter goals. They were game-changing misses in the final minutes. One of them had to make it. Sport is about victory and defeat, and in that are moments that change destiny and belief.
The Tigers had two of them and blew them.
Riewoldt was already under the pump. Wayne Carey had a crack on the day of the game, so did David King. Their commentary was in his face.
Riewoldt should've kicked the goal with three minutes to play, and he should've found a teammate when he went inside 50 minutes earlier. Instead, Gaff marked and the pressure was relieved.
Deledio, who hurt his knee earlier in the game and who is a genuine star in the team, had a crack from 50m. He pulled it left.
Riewoldt and Deledio didn't lose the game, it's just that they didn't win it when they had their opportunities.
It's frustrating for them, the coach and the fans. The young defence is coping, the midfield can be awesome when they are up as they were yesterday, and the three key forwards - Riewoldt, Miller and Vickery - kicked seven of 14 goals.
But mostly always it's the ''moments'' that count in tight games.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/just-too-hard-for-hawks/story-fn5937w8-1226342114993
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Ellis shortstepped/seagulled/spectated/avoided a number of contests. It was blatant. They shot to Dimma after one and you could see it in his response. I was surprised that Ellis lasted so long.
It looks like he is overawed by the body size/speed of the game at times, because he can and does commit at other times. But he does avoid some.
Yep hardwick is breeding a different type of tiger than what we have seen.
Ellis is young and will learn
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Have noticed him hesitate a few times too, but he is still a baby. I barely had three pubes when i was his age (I have five now).