I wonder if South Melbourne are any show ramps of getting into the A-League - and I am being serious
Because the really have to do something about New Zealand :help and wouldn't that open up a place in the competition
I wonder if South Melbourne are any show ramps of getting into the A-League - and I am being serious
Because the really have to do something about New Zealand :help and wouldn't that open up a place in the competition
Too closly associated with a particular ethnic group - Wont happen, Soccer Australia wants to keep that poohe out of the game and thats a good thing, even though I don't really care.
Because the really have to do something about New Zealand :help and wouldn't that open up a place in the competition
did anyone see the dust up between Merrick & Muscat lol....Melbourne Victory one big happy family ;D ...If everything was going to plan as Merrick claims then Muscat wouldn't have had a tantrum over being taken off last night.
Ben Buckley should bring in South Melbourne...the Victory can beat up sides like NZ and Central Coast and all the other rubbish but unless they can win championships against the might and power and the glory of South then they havent won anything.:lol
Go the Roar :bow
The Roar were stiff. I was hoping they would win just to knock Sydney FC out.
The Victory will be happy to get Adelaide in the semis instead of the in-form Newcastle.
I agree. Newcastle are looking dangerous, and I've been very impressed this season with the ability of Carle, Griffiths and Bridge. I think they'll be too good for Sydney.
Id like atleast 1 away goal probably 2 away goals forcing Melbourne to score 3 times to win.
I felt sick, adelaide were home, newcastle were going to chuck you clowns out next week and then ... ahhh stuff it, I still feel sick. I hope Newcastle gets to the grand final and Coveny fixes the Victory.
Didn't think soccer and biff were 2 words that went together. :rollin
wait and see if kevin muscat tries to retrieve a ball again from under John Kosmina's chair. :lol
ADELAIDE UNITED coach John Kosmina could be banned from coaching from the sideline in Sunday's grand final against Melbourne Victory after Football Federation Australia opened an investigation into an after-match incident with referee Matthew Breeze.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21215454-2722,00.html
LOL Ramps.
Cheer up. Apparently the latest rumour has Richard Branson backing South Melbourne to join the A-league wearing their 1950's top with red added given the Virgin sponsorship that would come along with it.
Why can't the govt build a larger stadium?
Because this is it's way of putting a lid on the growth of soccer in this country.
MV shouldn't settle for anything under 40K
LOL Ramps.
Cheer up. Apparently the latest rumour has Richard Branson backing South Melbourne to join the A-league wearing their 1950's top with red added given the Virgin sponsorship that would come along with it.
Rumour is indeed that South have secured a major international investor wanting exposure for his company. Said person can afford it...as I mentioned in an earlier post for him the annual cost of running an a league side is like weekly pocket money. We shall wait and see however.
I am on the Pirates bandwagon :clappingI have a feeling you'd like the crew of the good ship Victory to swab their poop deck. (like this... :-*)
The Victory and the State government have finally agreed on a 31,000 new rectangular stadium.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21781056-661,00.html
Hey Ramps, I see the Victory are playing your beloved South Melbourne tomorrow night at Bob Jane stadium.Victory 5
Victory 1 - 0 Sydney FCYou beauty - Money in the bank :thumbsup
Thanks ref for sending off Corica :D
cost me my multi i had $40 on to win 14k ... for a 5 leg multi...out on the first game, i had it a draw.It looked like being a draw too until Allsopp got the late winner.
never saw capsicum spray used by coppers at either Middle Park or Bob Jane. Dont tell me the Victory Games have become a breeding ground for hooligans.LOL. That'll be Sydney FC hooligans :yep
Are they playing at the Dome?Yep :lol
Hope they torch the joint lol :thumbsup
Dear oh Dear, the wheels have fallen of. And in an 8 team league as well lol.
Dear oh Dear, the wheels have fallen of. And in an 8 team league as well lol.A good time for South to make an entry ;D
You still following this rabble, I would have thought that following Richmond would be enough lol. Its certainly enough for me lol. Victory PPFFFT - there taking the pee. You should just stick to the Tiges. We got the Cotch and young Rance. Richmond will win a flag before Victory ever does anything again.Merrick this year would make Spud's gameplan look exciting lol :P. They've lost their creative players like Fred and to a lesser extent Sarkies since last season and Allsopp despite scoring on the weekend is having a shocker of a year (like his first year). Getting 4 red cards in the last 5 games through ill-discipline doesn't help either :scream. The problems off the field are now affecting on-field performance. The harmony and togetherness of last year has gone.
All choreographed. A home win to keep the fans happy 8 goals to keep the fans happy a staged Beckham free kick from a ref who was more than happy to issue a foul within Beckham range of goal. Abit of a fight towards the end and there you have it 80000 leave happy and this friendly is deemed a success by the mainstream media.Nicely said HT74 ;).
It's just like their first year where they fell to bits in the second half of the season. Too slow and too defensive yet Merrick won't make any changes either tactical or personnel wise.
LOLIt's just like their first year where they fell to bits in the second half of the season. Too slow and too defensive yet Merrick won't make any changes either tactical or personnel wise.
theres always South Melbourne and Bob Jane Stadium, why dont you join the true believers rather than the rabble you currently follow ;D
I just wanna know if any of you are gonna come in here and post in this thread when the seasons over and youve finished stone motherless last, i wanna know if your gonna come in here and stick a picture of your new trophy,Going for the footy-soccer double lol
THE WOODEN SPOON.
;D
National Champions one year.The ultimate premiership hangover ;). Rumour has it that Fred could be coming back from the States next year.
Wooden spooners the next.
the melbourne demons of soccer :shhNah the Victory didn't choke when they made the finals lol.
Nah the Victory didn't choke when they made the finals lol.
LOLNah the Victory didn't choke when they made the finals lol.
the Glen Waverley RSL could make the A League finals. Making the finals in an 8 team competition is nothing to be proud of. Winning a supposed national championship without the likes of a South or a Marconi or an Adelaide City or a Melbourne Knights - thats also farcical. FIFA should do something about this farce. They really should.
We are a global club. We even got to Brazil lol.LOL
As for crowds lol ... i just had a look, without the Victory the A League is nowhere in terms of crowds, crowds of 9000 to 11000 people. Joke for 1 city teams. South in the old days used to average 8000 people...in a non marketed comp lol.Melbourne = the sporting capital of the world :thumbsup
we played against Vasco de Gama and Man Utd. It took vasco a 35 mtr piledriver and a goal in the last minute to beat us, Victory couldnt beat the Jim Boogie Allstars if they played at this very moment.South only lost 2-0 to Man U didn't they?
Gamba Osaka the Japanese Champions clearly the standout team.
Pipped the current Asian Champions Urawa Red Diamonds to the J League title
on the last day of their season when the Diamonds lost to the bottom club at home
on the last day of the season. Currently the Victory are not in the league of Gamba Osaka by any stretch of the imagination which suggests the state of the sport in this country with neither Sydney nor Adelaide qualifying past the group stage last time around and the Socceroos struggling in the Asian Cup. The sport is going backwards domestically as evidenced by the aforementioned failed campaigns in the last 12 months.
Gamba Osaka the Japanese Champions clearly the standout team.
Pipped the current Asian Champions Urawa Red Diamonds to the J League title
on the last day of their season when the Diamonds lost to the bottom club at home
on the last day of the season. Currently the Victory are not in the league of Gamba Osaka by any stretch of the imagination which suggests the state of the sport in this country with neither Sydney nor Adelaide qualifying past the group stage last time around and the Socceroos struggling in the Asian Cup. The sport is going backwards domestically as evidenced by the aforementioned failed campaigns in the last 12 months.
Only the introduction of the mighty South Melbourne FC can restore the pride and honor in Australian soccer. If theres no South then theres no success. BRING BACK SOUTH! ;D
Only the introduction of the mighty South Melbourne FC can restore the pride and honor in Australian soccer. If theres no South then theres no success. BRING BACK SOUTH! ;DWell they're trying Ramps ;)
Come on all you Melbourne fans lets all get behind my beloved Sydney FC as we shoot towards the A league premiership!!! :clappingWe love you tiga but that ain't gonna happen lol ;D
Corica is in fine form atm!! :bow :bow :clapping
Come on all you Melbourne fans lets all get behind my beloved Sydney FC as we shoot towards the A league premiership!!! :clappingWe love you tiga but that ain't gonna happen lol ;D
Corica is in fine form atm!! :bow :bow :clapping
Seriously I think it will be a Newcastle vs Sydney FC grand final.
Come on MT, lets put all that Sydney Melbourne rivalry hullabaloo behind us and get on the smart Money! :thumbsup C-O-R-I-C-A, C-O-R-I-C-A , C-O-R-I-C-A !!!Happy for a NSW team to win it tiga just not Tin Tin lol. Be good to see Kosmina spit the dummy again :lol. The smart money would be on Joel Griffiths and Newcastle ;).
Go the Gosford Goanna's or the Woy Woy Wanderers!(ray hall could be a star signing as their goal keeper) :lol :rollinLOL reminds me of that pic of Razor with the footy on his head ;D
South would have put 7 past the midgets. Victory arent up to it.:lol
The Victory got there pants pulled down ... this would never have happened to the Great South Melbourne sides.:lol
Victory 1-0 up :thumbsup. Allsopp actually put the ball in the back of the net for a change lol.
;DVictory 1-0 up :thumbsup. Allsopp actually put the ball in the back of the net for a change lol.
With a huge assist from the keeper putting it on a plate for him after initially fumbling a shot. :lol
1-1 cracker from long range into the top corner.Two games in a row. Talk about Ar_senal :scream.
1-1 cracker from long range into the top corner.Two games in a row. Talk about Ar_senal :scream.
Let me understand
Who is Sth Melbourne playing in their lowly league. Ahh yes, it may be Westgate or Sandringham or Kingston or Oakleigh or Bentleigh Greens. What games, what rivalries. What a bunch of typical whining and whinging greek richmond supporters. Get over it. You're out of the league AND never to return. Accept it. :nopity
The A-League will never let an ethnic based team enter the league again.
By the way, good luck to Sth when playing the pretend teams this season.
Ohh and by the way I look forward to the posts when Sth are again rejected when the next Melbourne licence is issued.
GO VICTORY :bow :ROTFL
Atleast some people know what there talking about, unlike some others in here who have no idea lolThe FFA won't be going back to the ethnic clubs so those old NSL clubs will just have to face that fact. They must be very naive if they expected their crowd numbers which weren't big anyway to hold up once they went back to state leagues.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/football/ffa-must-act-to-avoid-rugbys-ills/2008/04/14/1208025091340.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
As if we did not know but the Victory's Asian Champions League campaign would be over now, that they are 1-0 down in their must win game.Make that 2-0 down now with 72 mins gone. Victory getting smashed. Osaka with 65% of the possession. No Hernandez and Archie is showing.
As if we did not know but the Victory's Asian Champions League campaign would be over now, that they are 1-0 down in their must win game.Make that 2-0 down now with 72 mins gone. Victory getting smashed. Osaka with 65% of the possession. No Hernandez and Archie is showing.
Adelaide look good though. 3-1 up.
The Melbourne Victory gravy train will soon be over. Melbourne will have a new club. Its down to 2 bids people, Melbourne Hearts which is a Sidwell,MacManus,Greek Businessmen bid - Unofficial SMFC bid, and Southern Cross FC which is the official SMFC bid. Either way Victory are rooted, The South will rise again, and when you all start getting your pants pulled down at Telstra Dome you will have finally understood the might, the power and the glory that is the greatest soccer club in Australian history, South Melbourne.:rollin
Is it true that Melbourne Victory fans disgraced themselves last night with a massive punch on in the grandstands.Don't know as the game was in Sydney but from past experience there is never any crowd trouble at Victory games at the Dome except when they play Sydney FC :whistle.
beating the sheep shaggers is no big deal...common come to your senses, you idiots at the Victory have achieved nothing in these years of the A League, the A League has no credibility, no championship in this country can be taken seriously if South isnt in it. If Southern Cross comes in and you win a championship I will give you due credit, but lets be honest all of your supporters are poohting themselves at the prospect of Southern Cross coming in because theyve all smelt the stench of defeat that will encompass them when we start handing out traditional hidings to boys from the Victory- in fact there will come a time, when Victory will need to get sponsored by Unilever coz theyll be needing the vaseline lol. HAHAHAHAHA ;DOne professional league title and another on the way this year for a soccer club with 23k members :thumbsup. The FFA may let you ammos back in one day but not yet lol.
beating the sheep shaggers is no big deal...common come to your senses, you idiots at the Victory have achieved nothing in these years of the A League, the A League has no credibility, no championship in this country can be taken seriously if South isnt in it. If Southern Cross comes in and you win a championship I will give you due credit, but lets be honest all of your supporters are poohting themselves at the prospect of Southern Cross coming in because theyve all smelt the stench of defeat that will encompass them when we start handing out traditional hidings to boys from the Victory- in fact there will come a time, when Victory will need to get sponsored by Unilever coz theyll be needing the vaseline lol. HAHAHAHAHA ;D
The Melbourne Victory gravy train will soon be over. Melbourne will have a new club. Its down to 2 bids people, Melbourne Hearts which is a Sidwell,MacManus,Greek Businessmen bid - Unofficial SMFC bid, and Southern Cross FC which is the official SMFC bid. Either way Victory are rooted, The South will rise again, and when you all start getting your pants pulled down at Telstra Dome you will have finally understood the might, the power and the glory that is the greatest soccer club in Australian history, South Melbourne.
Down to 10 men for an hour and Melbourne still win :thumbsup. Ramps will be happy lol.
Victory 1 (Muscat 62')
Adelaide 0
24k to the Adelaide game which isn't bad for this time of year and directly up against the Swans vs Dogs at the 'G which only got 42k. Once the footy is over in 2 weeks the soccer crowds will pick up.Down to 10 men for an hour and Melbourne still win :thumbsup. Ramps will be happy lol.
Victory 1 (Muscat 62')
Adelaide 0
Didnt know you guys had played lol. By the way I noted some highlights on the news of some of the games. Crowds seem to going down. Lots of spaces in the grandstands all over the place. It wouldnt be because the standard is rubbish and people have woken up to it?
The Melbourne Victory gravy train will soon be over. Melbourne will have a new club. Its down to 2 bids people, Melbourne Hearts which is a Sidwell,MacManus,Greek Businessmen bid - Unofficial SMFC bid, and Southern Cross FC which is the official SMFC bid. Either way Victory are rooted, The South will rise again, and when you all start getting your pants pulled down at Telstra Dome you will have finally understood the might, the power and the glory that is the greatest soccer club in Australian history, South Melbourne.Ramps, Melbourne Heart has won the second Melbourne licence. Mostly likely at the moment they won't keep the Heart name. The club will be called Melbourne Utd or a name to completely differentiate itself from Melbourne Victory like Victoria something. They are hoping for an average crowd of 8,000 lol in their first year. There may also be a new stadium season ticket which will give the chardy theatregoers the option of watching both clubs at home games to help attract with attendance numbers.
Considering what Southern Cross put forward in the bid, I think it was a poor decision, nevertheless an ex South Melbourne President is one of the top 3 shareholders in Hearts so thats ok from our end, Personally I cant see them getting a crowd, South supporters wont support Hearts as it stands.If the FFA thought Southern Cross had too close a connection with South Melbourne that could have been enough to swing them towards Melbourne Heart. The FFA are heavily against any ethnic based club being in the A-league.
I know that my sporting concerns at the national level will revolve around Richmond. I think Hearts will be stuffed, the bogans who live where the Hearts want to be based dont have enough financial clout to make it profitable- but thats not my concern, Im not putting any dough in ... so who cares.
wheels have well and truly fallen off now ;D
Hope you guys are going to be barracking for Adelaide tonight, I will :shh :thumbsupIs that diving cheat playing for them :scream :wallywink. Nah it'll be good for Aussie soccer if they win it.
Ramps been awfully quiet this week ;D;D
Ramps been awfully quiet this week ;D
1st leg last nightAdelaide lost 0-2 tonight at home to go down 0-5 on aggregate.
Gamba Osaka 3
Adelaide Utd 0
I can see the joy on Ramps face from here ;D
LOL they weren't playing in the old NSL because they were playing in better leagues overseas. No one played in the NSL by choice lol and those who were any good left for Europe as soon as they could.I can see the joy on Ramps face from here ;D
Yeah Im jumping for joy lol ... what a farce, blokes who couldnt get a game in the old NSL are now portrayed as stars in the A League. An absolutely farcical situation. The Victory are the worst side ever to come out of Victoria, they are worse than what Mooroolbark were in 1977, infact if the old Inter Monaro were in the league, theyd probably give the current rabble that are the Victory a decent going over. JUST FARCICAL!
Australian Soccer needs to be saved, it needs :help
Its going nowhere. Where are the new Mark Vidukas, where are the new Paul Trimboli's, where are the new Milan Ivanovich's ... its just a farce!
LOL they weren't playing in the old NSL because they were playing in better leagues overseas. No one played in the NSL by choice lol and those who were any good left for Europe as soon as they could.I can see the joy on Ramps face from here ;D
Yeah Im jumping for joy lol ... what a farce, blokes who couldnt get a game in the old NSL are now portrayed as stars in the A League. An absolutely farcical situation. The Victory are the worst side ever to come out of Victoria, they are worse than what Mooroolbark were in 1977, infact if the old Inter Monaro were in the league, theyd probably give the current rabble that are the Victory a decent going over. JUST FARCICAL!
Australian Soccer needs to be saved, it needs :help
Its going nowhere. Where are the new Mark Vidukas, where are the new Paul Trimboli's, where are the new Milan Ivanovich's ... its just a farce!
As for Aussie soccer - back to back World Cup finals here we come :thumbsup. Under the old NSL and SA we never made it to a WC.
Viduka only played 2-3 years in NSL as a teenager before heading OS to Croatia Zagreb. Likewise Schwarzer with Marconi, Bresciano and Grella at Carlton, Emerton at Sydney Olympic. LOL Scott McDonald was 14 at Morwell. Kewell, Cahill and Neill never played in the NSL. By the time they were 20 they were all playing in Europe. Milan Ivanovic was in his 30s at Adelaide City btw. Ramps you make out the NSL was like the EPL :lol in an era where New Zealand was still classed as a hard opponent for Australian soccer lol. Btw the NSL would have killed for 6000-8000 crowds lol. It didn't go broke for nothing ;). The Victory are still getting crowds the size any old NSL club couldn't even dream of :yep.LOL they weren't playing in the old NSL because they were playing in better leagues overseas. No one played in the NSL by choice lol and those who were any good left for Europe as soon as they could.I can see the joy on Ramps face from here ;D
Yeah Im jumping for joy lol ... what a farce, blokes who couldnt get a game in the old NSL are now portrayed as stars in the A League. An absolutely farcical situation. The Victory are the worst side ever to come out of Victoria, they are worse than what Mooroolbark were in 1977, infact if the old Inter Monaro were in the league, theyd probably give the current rabble that are the Victory a decent going over. JUST FARCICAL!
Australian Soccer needs to be saved, it needs :help
Its going nowhere. Where are the new Mark Vidukas, where are the new Paul Trimboli's, where are the new Milan Ivanovich's ... its just a farce!
As for Aussie soccer - back to back World Cup finals here we come :thumbsup. Under the old NSL and SA we never made it to a WC.
MT ... newsflash champ... Viduka played NSL with the Knights ... he was here for several seasons before he left, Trimboli played 99% of his career at South, an absolute star who stayed home coz he had a good job, hes now running Marketing for Puma I believe and he was extremely well paid by South. Ivanovic played for Adelaide City, probably the best sweeper Australia ever had although he came from Serbia ... anyway, I understand, you blokes dont really know about the great players of the NSL, all the guys I named + dozens of others like Branko Bujevic, Peter Sharne who was a star with Marconi, Joe Watson a star with Sydney City, Oscar Crino etc etc etc. You blokes missed out on great players in the league ..
PS- Ive noted the crowds over the last few weeks, looks like the appeal is starting to wear of Gents, down in the 6000- 8000 for most games now ... and we are only in the 4th season. Dear oh Dear!
In the NSL - Perth Glory used to get 17000 to home games, now they get 4000 to games in the A League... anyone wanna analyse this situation?Both the Eagles and Freo were crap at the time which helped when the Glory were getting those crowds. They were also new to the comp and a superior professionally run club to the rest of the NSL clubs. They finished top 2 every year while in the NSL. Since the A-league has been going they have been a bottom 2 side. Just a sporting fact of life that people want to be associated with winners.
The bloke from the Tassie A-league bid reckons the second Melbourne team bid has the front running for the next licence. The second Sydney team bid is weak IHO. He believes the FFA will eventually end up with 14 teams to chase the tv-rights dollars.If the FFA thought Southern Cross had too close a connection with South Melbourne that could have been enough to swing them towards Melbourne Heart. The FFA are heavily against any ethnic based club being in the A-league.Considering what Southern Cross put forward in the bid, I think it was a poor decision, nevertheless an ex South Melbourne President is one of the top 3 shareholders in Hearts so thats ok from our end, Personally I cant see them getting a crowd, South supporters wont support Hearts as it stands.The Melbourne Victory gravy train will soon be over. Melbourne will have a new club. Its down to 2 bids people, Melbourne Hearts which is a Sidwell,MacManus,Greek Businessmen bid - Unofficial SMFC bid, and Southern Cross FC which is the official SMFC bid. Either way Victory are rooted, The South will rise again, and when you all start getting your pants pulled down at Telstra Dome you will have finally understood the might, the power and the glory that is the greatest soccer club in Australian history, South Melbourne.Ramps, Melbourne Heart has won the second Melbourne licence. Mostly likely at the moment they won't keep the Heart name. The club will be called Melbourne Utd or a name to completely differentiate itself from Melbourne Victory like Victoria something. They are hoping for an average crowd of 8,000 lol in their first year. There may also be a new stadium season ticket which will give the chardy theatregoers the option of watching both clubs at home games to help attract with attendance numbers.
I know that my sporting concerns at the national level will revolve around Richmond. I think Hearts will be stuffed, the bogans who live where the Hearts want to be based dont have enough financial clout to make it profitable- but thats not my concern, Im not putting any dough in ... so who cares.
The other licence I think goes to NSW. Either Western Sydney or Woollogong. So that makes it 4 NSW teams in a 12 team comp.
Didn't South Melbourne have a getaway driver in an armed robbery?Ah yes good old Con Boutsianis ;).
Integrity. :yep
Great comeback from 2 goals down by the Victory last night Ramps ;D.
Victory 3
Sydney 2
The Champions League must be an even more garbage comp because Liverpool came from 0-3 at half-time to beat AC Milan in the 2005 final :wallywink.Great comeback from 2 goals down by the Victory last night Ramps ;D.
Victory 3
Sydney 2
Just shows what a garbage competition it is lol. losing from being 2 up...just a fiasco imho ;D
ground looked in shocking condition best to keep sports venues for sports eventsEspecially just a day and a half after a rave party. Collo only cares about raking in the $$$. It's still a good win though. Archie should/could've had another bag of 5 with all the chances he had.
Been some cracking A-League goals of late. Anyone who thinks this standard is lower than the old NSL needs to be put in a nursing home to talk about the good old days.Unless it's Sydney FC :lol
Just thought Id make an appearance after Victorys dismal performance in perth. Just another atrocious effort from the worst club ever to come from Victoria. Even Mooroolbark was better than the Victory.lol You've been very quiet the past 3 weeks Ramps ;D. I can't see Melbourne worrying too much. The two bogie sides Perth and Newcastle won't be in the finals.
Semi-Final first legsOdds on now another sold out GF at the Dome. Ramps got you're ticket yet? ;D
Adelaide 0
Melbourne 2 ...... Hernandez '13, Allsopp '89
Victory's march to another title is cutting deep eh Ramps :rollin.
Btw the Victory captain is a former South Melbourne player :thumbsup. The A-League is also one of the leagues in FIFA 09 so FIFA recognises it ;).
Well Scotland's was for years only a 10 team comp and that was recognised. FIFA does what it likes. If the champion wasn't recognised then no Australian team would be playing in the ACL and Club World Cup. Technically all comps should have a second division and promotion and relegation so that would rule out the former NSL champions as well ;). In any case the A-league will be a 12-14 team comp in a couple of years. Clutching at straws Ramps me old chap :lol.Victory's march to another title is cutting deep eh Ramps :rollin.
Btw the Victory captain is a former South Melbourne player :thumbsup. The A-League is also one of the leagues in FIFA 09 so FIFA recognises it ;).
FIFA doesnt recognise the championships that have been won in an 8 team competition. The minimum number of teams required is 12 before the championship wins are recognised.
Adelaide United 'will never win anything', coach Aurelio Vidmar says
By Val Migliaccio
February 15, 2009
ADELAIDE United coach Aurelio Vidmar might have written his own death warrant when he blamed the Reds 4-0 loss to Melbourne Victory on "politics" then labelled Adelaide a "pee-ant town".
"That 4-0 result tonight was politics, nothing else.
"Whether you're involved directly or indirectly you have an effect.
"It has an effect on everyone.
"Because of a pee-ant town this club will never win anything, until you get rid of that crap."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25056295-23209,00.html
What a match.Yep Theo's save near the end sealed the win.
Great saves by the keeper.
:rollin
Come back to me when those little state league clubs pack out 55,000 seat stadiums :lol.
There is a lot of romanticism about the old NSL from the supporters of the clubs that were in it. The competition and Soccer Australia as a whole was bankrupt by the end. Teams had died, were dying or had fallen back to their state leagues to survive or sadly still die out. Average crowds were around 5,000 and there was no money in the sport. Something radical had to be done so it isn't like that AFL example unless we're talking about North and Melbourne. For what it's worth the VFL/AFL has already killed off two Victorian clubs. Just a sad reality of modern professional sport and hopefully one the RFC never has to face as a possibly ever again.
NSL clubs were ethnic based so most Australians who weren't ethnically connected to a club didn't give a stuff about the NSL. You'd go to a Melbourne Knights game and the kids would be wearing the chequered red and white Croatian national jumper not the Melbourne Knights jumper and they'd be chanting 'Croatia Croatia'. They were a good club but hardly attractive to a non-Croatian soccer fan. It's a no brainer why the Victory bandwagon has grown under the A-league. Victory is Melbourne's sole team and the A-league can build upon rivalries based on old state and regional rivalries. There is an inclusiveness which bypasses the old ethnicity. I actually agree another Victorian side is a waste of time btw.
As for the standard go and watch some old tapes of NSL games. It was crap compared to now. Slow, poor technical skills and error riddened. Anyone who was decent left for Europe by the time they were 20 so those now big names hardly played in the NSL in their prime years. The A-league has of this season a national youth league and women's league. You find they have or are going to make it compulsory that all kids coming through have to play for a specified period of time in the A-league at some level which commits them to play for the Socceroos before they go overseas.
The Socceroos were a joke during the time of the NSL. Sure they might pinch a suprise win in a friendly here and there but when it came to the crunch they couldn't hack it. Imagine losing to NZ nowdays :o. It wasn't just the players but the whole infrastructure of the sport was rotten to the core. Things had to change and radically. The fact of the matter is Australia qualified for the World Cup 3 years before the NSL came long yet the NSL/SA weren't able to repeat that feat in the 27 years or so it existed. Since the A-league and the management structure that created it has come in, Australia has finally returned to the World Cup and we will be back there again next year and we are now in Asia where Australian clubs can earn bigger dollars from tv rights in the ACL. Melbourne is also of course getting their own new rectangular stadium so they won't have to put up with Ian Collins' Dome screwing clubs any longer. Now hardcore soccer anti-AFL people are deluded if they think soccer will takeover Aussie rules but the A-league has found its place in the sporting marketplace to sustain itself if well-managed.
I might take back what I said after that first half against Kuwait :P :lol. No cohesion as a team. Reminds me of the old Socceroos with all NSL players that would lose to NZ ;).
No excuses here. Sadly no different to the Socceroos of the 80s :-X. I guess don't play an international after a Mad monday premiership either when a few of the starting 11 had been partying on the tank :nope. Pim picked a poor side too. Why didn't Muscat or more experienced players in the A-league play that could have got the job done easily ???.I might take back what I said after that first half against Kuwait :P :lol. No cohesion as a team. Reminds me of the old Socceroos with all NSL players that would lose to NZ ;).
Just a disgraceful performance tonight. Its clearly a reflection of the decay of the A League and the quality of player being produced. Just disgraceful ... losing to Kuwait ffs. :banghead
I reckon your in denial about yesterdays effort, it was shocking and it was a reflection of the quality of player the A League is producingIt was pathetic. No denying that. I said it reminded me of the Socceroos of the 80s who were abysmal and would cough up schoolboy error goals like the one last night. All I'm saying is the A-league is no way inferior to the old NSL and old tapes of NSL games and all-NSL Socceroo results show that. The A-league (Victory) would be like league one or two in England (old 3rd/4th division) whereas the NSL would have been a division lower IMHO. Sydney FC would be Conference North standard :lol.
On the other hand some clubs, great clubs, who have been shafted by racist authorities......I would have thought the authorities who shafted some great clubs are exactly the opposite.
The way its going the A League will soon be offering spectators binoculars so they can see other spectators in the ground ;D
Palmer is an deluded idiot. He's the guy that was on 60 Minutes a while back claiming his billions would turn soccer into the No.1 sport in the country. The reason he is capping crowds to 5000 is so he can avoid some Qld state tax or something like that. It backfired as people on the Gold Coast told him to go forth and multiply by not showing up at all.The way its going the A League will soon be offering spectators binoculars so they can see other spectators in the ground ;D
Yeah it certainly seems to have lost its "shine" this season
Crowd numbers down across the board. Melbourne's numbers are still the best though in the comp but are down none the less
Don't think the billionaire owner of the Gold Coast is helping things, wanting to cap the crowd numbers - bizzarre stuff indeed :P
As someone who only takes a passing interest in soccer, one thing i notice is Archie Thompson name crops up a lot as a goal scorer. He is obviously a finisher, perhaps one of the best in the A league? Why doesn't he get more games with the national side. Some of the socceroo games i have seen they created plenty of opportunities but just couldn't convert. I would have thought someone with his finishing ability is what they need?
cheers for that jakeAs someone who only takes a passing interest in soccer, one thing i notice is Archie Thompson name crops up a lot as a goal scorer. He is obviously a finisher, perhaps one of the best in the A league? Why doesn't he get more games with the national side. Some of the socceroo games i have seen they created plenty of opportunities but just couldn't convert. I would have thought someone with his finishing ability is what they need?
Massive leap in standard between here and Europe where most of our internationals play. I guess it is like Andrew Gaze struggling in the NBA. Thompson in the A-League is (relatively speaking) very fast and very skillful. In any decent European league he is not very skillful and just quick. If we took him to the world cup he would be totally ineffective. One of our other strikers, Josh Kennedy is a hack, but he is a tall hack and physically strong so at least he offers something to challenge defenders.
Archie Thompson is a reflection of why I dont take the A League seriously. In the NSL he was an average player. The standard of the A League is lower and thats why he scores. The National Coach doesnt rate him because he doesnt rate the A League standard which is crap.46 goals in 111 NSL games as a 18-22 year old. Scored pretty consistently as a young NSL player. Chose then to play in Belgium rather than the poor old NSL.
Melbourne stays 3 points clear at the top of the A-leagueA 7 goal turnaround from just 5 weeks ago :o.
Central Coast 0
Melb. Victory 3 ............ Hernandez '57, Kemp '71, Mariners own goal '77
Crowds leaving in droves. Average less than 5000 last week.No games in Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide or Perth last weekend and still the lowest average is twice that of the average NSL crowds. In it's final season the NSL averaged 2,000. Parramatta vs South Melbourne attracted only 1,800 fans lol. The NSL died a slow and painful death. Keep fishing Ramps ;D.
New Football .... not as we know it ;D
I went last night. The Victory dominated and had something like 20 shots on goal to 4 but couldn't put the ball in the net :-\.
South Melbourne never had any trouble eh. That's why there is a home fan only rule whenever South play Preston in the VPL.I went last night. The Victory dominated and had something like 20 shots on goal to 4 but couldn't put the ball in the net :-\.
Atleast It wasnt a nil all draw on the fights, rioting, flare, and smashed windows front.
Another shameful night for the Victory hooligans
South Melbourne never had any trouble eh. That's why there is a home fan only rule whenever South play Preston in the VPL.I went last night. The Victory dominated and had something like 20 shots on goal to 4 but couldn't put the ball in the net :-\.
Atleast It wasnt a nil all draw on the fights, rioting, flare, and smashed windows front.
Another shameful night for the Victory hooligans
I'm not defending the idiots Ramps but it's odd that there's never any fan trouble when any of the other 8 visiting club fans come down to Melbourne. Only when Sydney plays. The same thing happens at Collingwood games in the AFL. There was no trouble at the ground. One flare was let off in the BWB in the second half.
The NSL and Soccer Australia going broke had something to do with the NSL and its clubs getting the flick. Soccer had to broaden its appeal outside the traditional ethnic base at a domestic level.South Melbourne never had any trouble eh. That's why there is a home fan only rule whenever South play Preston in the VPL.I went last night. The Victory dominated and had something like 20 shots on goal to 4 but couldn't put the ball in the net :-\.
Atleast It wasnt a nil all draw on the fights, rioting, flare, and smashed windows front.
Another shameful night for the Victory hooligans
I'm not defending the idiots Ramps but it's odd that there's never any fan trouble when any of the other 8 visiting club fans come down to Melbourne. Only when Sydney plays. The same thing happens at Collingwood games in the AFL. There was no trouble at the ground. One flare was let off in the BWB in the second half.
I thought that all soccer violence in Australia was the result of "efnik" tensions lol, whats the excuse now? Some great clubs got relegated because of the inference to ethnic violence. The A League is quickly falling down and in no time will be on its last legs.
They still should be able to get a result at home.Agree with the last bit.
In the age of professionalism 2 days is not enough but 3 days is.
Many big European clubs play on a Sat and then play UCL on Tuesday. If the FFA can't get it right oh well.
Another ACL campaign down the gurglar. No point the FFA trying to be professional when they make amateurish decisions.
i dunno about you gusy but i feel really unsafe when i go to support the Victory in sydney :(They are feral. Envious of Victory being successful and the biggest Soccer club.
i dunno about you gusy but i feel really unsafe when i go to support the Victory in sydney :(They are feral. Envious of Victory being successful and the biggest Soccer club.
Supporters once again have disgraced themselves. Punch ons and riots at the end of the game because the lost, Some Sydney supporters taken to hospital as a result of the violence. Just disgraceful IMHO.Police congratulated the crowd on their good behaviour on the news.
Is this the voice of a little VPL club supporter lol.i dunno about you gusy but i feel really unsafe when i go to support the Victory in sydney :(They are feral. Envious of Victory being successful and the biggest Soccer club.
LOL
They fixed up the Victory nice and proper. Victory choking in the shootout. It took South Melbourne almost 3 decades to lose in a Grand Final ... it took these chokers from the Victory 4 years lol ... anyway Camiserations your still stuck on 2 very very dubious championships - championships attained I may add in an appalling 8 team league. ;D :clapping 4 sydney!
Olympiakos shirt lol
I must admit the Heart guernsey does looks good as does the new stadium.
Nothing wrong with Olympiakos MT. :thumbsupOlympiakos may be coming down to Oz Tucky to play a couple of friendlies against the Victory and Sydney FC. It would get a good crowd too in Melbourne with us having the largest Greek population outside Athens.
MV have already dropped the ticket prices for the Muscat testimonial game. Mustn't be much interest.
Here's next season's fixture.
http://www.a-league.com.au/site/_content/document/00001665-source.pdf
The FFA has held off the Melbourne derby until after the footy finishes. Interesting to see size of Heart's crowds and whether the league can sustain two clubs in Melbourne.
Not unless the AFL GF is a draw. :lolLOL
He is actually quite insightful when it comes to tactics MT. Says it how it is.I agree he knows his Soccer when it comes to tactics and believe it or not I actually agree with him when he says we need to develop players in Australia with better technical skills and technique and that ball-players in the A-league should be better protected to encourage skill over braun. However he is so Sydney-centric so he hates Melbourne and he hates the fact Aussie Rules is the most popular football code in Oz. So he writes absolute BS in his SMH articles when he starts discussing the merits of Soccer over the other footy codes especially Aussie Rules. He perpetuates the myths and this 'us vs them' victim mentality in the Soccer fraternity that all other codes and the Oz media conspire against the sport :nopity. It's that blame others attitude that has covered over the self-inflicted problems Soccer has had in Oz over decades.
Alot more thorough than Andy Harper when it comes to tactics. Andy Harper is Soccer's version of Garry Lyon. Just playing it safe.
anyone turn up to these games on the weekend?
anyone turn up to these games on the weekend?
Stick a knife in the a-league, it is just about done.
Gold coast v Brisbane 6,000 people. Gold coast probably only about 2,000 of them. Hardly a shot on goal all game. Who is going to spend $30-40 on that with all the other things to do on the coast?
I watched a few games this weekend and whilst a couple of games had goals, the overall quality is very poor.
I think we can forget about either Melbourne side challenging for the title this year. Lost 0-2 tonight. The Victory without Thompson can't put the ball in the back of the net and the defence is leaking soft goals. Langerak leaving for the bigger leagues in Europe has left a massive hole in goal.
Theoklitos looking quite decent up here MT. Hasn't conceded in 3.Can we have Theo back?! lol
The A League is bleeding. Seen the crowds. Its taken 5 years- most teams are getting less than half what South Melbourne used to get in the NSL.The facts would beg to differ Ramps :lol
how does the A-league go with foxtel do they get abit of money from there tv right maybe thats what will keep them afloat not crowd numbersIt was a 7-year deal signed by the FFA at the end of the first A-league season with Foxtel for exclusive coverage. From memory it was only $130m (?). The FFA and the clubs are waiting for a better deal when the next tv rights negotiations come up but that isn't until 2012 and the money won't be allocated until 2013.
better tv deal common MT .. is the comedy festival on or something. The A League is going out the back door at a rate of knots. Its time for the saviour of Australian soccer to return. That is the might, the power and the glory of FIFAs team of the Century, South Melbourne.The NSL proved the bold lol ;)
There can be no successful competition with South Melbourne, Marconi, Melbourne Knights, Wollongong etc. Its time to bring back real clubs and not franchises who have sucked in afew customers along the way!
so whats happening with this league? is it still going? is it still solvent lol?The A-league isn't the old NSL run by a incompetent and financially broke Soccer Australia so that question doesn't need to be asked :wallywink. 11k on a cold Wednesday night for Soccer in Melbourne is a decent crowd.
Here's next season's fixture.
http://www.a-league.com.au/site/_content/document/00001665-source.pdf
The FFA has held off the Melbourne derby until after the footy finishes. Interesting to see size of Heart's crowds and whether the league can sustain two clubs in Melbourne.
Not unless the AFL GF is a draw. :lol
so whats happening with this league? is it still going? is it still solvent lol?
so whats happening with this league? is it still going? is it still solvent lol?
if melbourne victory win the Asian champions league in swan St stadium football and this city will grow
1. MVFC will win the ACL. it might take 1-2 years, 5, 50 but itll happen.
2. you'll always have a small knob.
Ramps still celebrating South's 6th place (one spot out of the finals) in the VPL ;D
Hellas will be playing against springvale white eagles
Muscat worries me: he is all steady and cool and calm when playing the ball; but when things get a bit willing he gets way too over the top.Muscat was always physical and played on the edge but he's got into the habit in the twilight years of his career of trying to throw his weight around in the first 10 minutes to intimidate the opposition and he gives away silly free kicks.
On the local derby here - stadium has never had 30k in it for any a league match. from what i hear there were less than 25k people and alot of those were freebies probably, 80% of whom were either MV supporters or theatre goers going for the event. The fact that the derby didnt sell out was a failure.
On another matter what was that tackle I saw on the news yesterday. One of the Victory players trying to destroy the career of an Adelaide player and didnt cop a red! What an absolute disgrace...the boy should get 12 weeks, that was a disgraceful and gutless tackle from a player clearly not up to standard. They dont even tackle that bad in the Amateurs!
Brisbane are the most skillful side I have seen in the A-League. They may not win the league as they have a lot of ballplayers and lack height defending set pieces, but watching them play it appears the A-League might be coming of age. Great one touch possession football, constant passing and movement, I never thought I would see an Australian team that played in the same style as Barca (albeit at a much lower level). It is very exciting for the sport in this country....The Roar can't do anything wrong at the moment. Even after being outplayed for a half they still came from behind to win tonight against Heart. Funny how two of the most criticised coaches are doing well their year - Ange and Arnold with CCM.
If its any consolation Ramps, it is your boy Ange who has done this remarkable job.
Arnold can't coach at international level (mind you name a Aussie-born coach whoever could :P) but he's doing well with CCM so far. As for crowds, Newcastle was decent for their town while we all know GC is a joke thanks to their idiotic owner and should be kicked out of the A-league. I couldn't careless about Heart lol. Still those figures apart from GC are daylight ahead of the old NSL crowds.
I hear Heart have made an offer to South Melbourne to buy a 20% stake in the A-League club.
Hope so. Getting rid of both allsopp and net fabiano was a bad move.
Another week another late goal conceded to draw again :P. Victory 3-3 vs top side Brisbane. This time thanks to a blind ref and linesmen :scream.
It was an exciting game with a great atmosphere. The game deserved more than 11000 supporters. And that's one of the reasons why we didn't get the WC; the local game isn't supported.
When the biggest club is down to 11k people you know the whole thing is on the skids! The truth is the same as that which unhinged the NSL, the standard aint that flash. In fact some of the best teams of the NSL like South and Knights and Marconi and Adelaide City would be pulling the pants down of these pretender clubs currently playing in this A League. Its an absolute disgrace how soccer is being run in Australia.
No one is disputing the ball was outside the area. Aussies refs are just hopeless. That's why none were invited to the officiate at the World Cup. Also it's time for the game to bring in video refereeing.Another week another late goal conceded to draw again :P. Victory 3-3 vs top side Brisbane. This time thanks to a blind ref and linesmen :scream.
To me it was not conclusive from the camera angle that the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line. Sure, Theoklitos was outside the area, but if he is holding the ball inside or on the line, it is fine. The camera angle seemed like there was some doubt as to where the ball actually was. If the ref was unsighted, it would have been impossible for the linesman to judge whether Theoklitos was inside or out too.
Either way, Muscat is a disgrace.
League expanded too quickly and before it was financially stable to sustain it. The FFA had got ahead of itself based on seasons 2 and 3 and the Socceroos effort in Germany in 2006. Going into Nth Qld and GC has added nothing except an added expense and negative publicity for the A-league and Heart offers nothing different as far as social demographic and geography to the Victory. The season is now too long (30 games) so dimishes the need to go to every game and forces the need for games to be played midweek to fit the season in. Australia doesn't have a midweek football culture in any code. For the Victory crowds at AAMI are around 5k less than at Etihad. It's more expensive to go to AAMI as well. I also believe the FFA's bitterness towards Aussie Rules and arrogance during the WC bid over the past 2 years has been a major turn off to neutrals and those that like both sports but prefer Aussie Rules. The vitriolic rants of Craig Foster, Michael Cockerill and co. are the sport's own worst enemies. Even Andy Harper and Simon Hill couldn't help having a dig at the AFL straight after the WC bid loss. Sydney-based jealous losers who hate everything about Melbourne including the Victory :sleep. The problem is they are often the face of Aussie soccer :help and when the sport needed to include mainstream Australia they push them away and in terms of Craig Foster calls us all "ignorant bogans" ::). The FFA have also done sweet bugger all in terms of advertising of the A-league in recent years. There's going to need to be some contraction of the league and dumping of the small dead-weight clubs to get the A-league on a stable footing. Ben Buckley will probably get the flick as part of the process. Hopefully he doesn't return to AFL either if he leaves soccer.It was an exciting game with a great atmosphere. The game deserved more than 11000 supporters. And that's one of the reasons why we didn't get the WC; the local game isn't supported.
Carvels what happened to the 25k plus crowds that Victory used to get.
Honestly mate what is it. I have never been to a game but there were a lot of people who have jumped off the league. Whats the issue?
11k is a very poor crowd. Still more than most of Kangas games though..lol
When the biggest club is down to 11k people you know the whole thing is on the skids! The truth is the same as that which unhinged the NSL, the standard aint that flash. In fact some of the best teams of the NSL like South and Knights and Marconi and Adelaide City would be pulling the pants down of these pretender clubs currently playing in this A League. Its an absolute disgrace how soccer is being run in Australia.
When the biggest club is down to 11k people you know the whole thing is on the skids! The truth is the same as that which unhinged the NSL, the standard aint that flash. In fact some of the best teams of the NSL like South and Knights and Marconi and Adelaide City would be pulling the pants down of these pretender clubs currently playing in this A League. Its an absolute disgrace how soccer is being run in Australia.
LOL @ this. I think last time MV played Hellas the score was 5-1 :rollin
When the biggest club is down to 11k people you know the whole thing is on the skids! The truth is the same as that which unhinged the NSL, the standard aint that flash. In fact some of the best teams of the NSL like South and Knights and Marconi and Adelaide City would be pulling the pants down of these pretender clubs currently playing in this A League. Its an absolute disgrace how soccer is being run in Australia.
LOL @ this. I think last time MV played Hellas the score was 5-1 :rollin
When we were playing with state league players lol and you clowns had a 2 million salary cap lol. The Knights of the 90s, Any SMFC team of the NSL and any Marconi or AdCity team would destroy all these clubs currently in the A League. Anyway, it doesnt matter, New Football is on its last legs just like the A League now.
What our NSL friends on here conveniently forget is the sport went broke under their stewardship.
What our NSL friends on here conveniently forget is the sport went broke under their stewardship.
No South No A League ;DNo South No VPL finals ;D
No South No A League ;DNo South No VPL finals ;D
I agree with Jake that the quality is the best its been when you look at sides like Brisbane this year. Jake is there another stadium the Roar can play at in Brisbane that isn't as massive as Suncorp? Most A-league clubs should be aiming to play in more intimate stadia with capacites around 20-25k as happens in the MLS in the States. That would keep costs down as well.
Cheers Jake. Last year there was talk of the Roar moving to Ballymore but it was rejected as you say because it's hard for fans to get to. A bit surprised there's no direct walkbridge across the creek so people could easily get to and from the stadium to Wilston station. Sydney FC is another one that needs a smaller stadium to play in. Surely one of the inner city NRL club grounds would do.I agree with Jake that the quality is the best its been when you look at sides like Brisbane this year. Jake is there another stadium the Roar can play at in Brisbane that isn't as massive as Suncorp? Most A-league clubs should be aiming to play in more intimate stadia with capacites around 20-25k as happens in the MLS in the States. That would keep costs down as well.
Not really, unfortunately (I agree with all you say about the issue).
Perry park (traditional home of football) would need a multimillion dollar facelift and given its situation hemmed in by the railway yards, the river and busy roads I think would be difficult to develop.
Ballymore is perfect size, but rugby union heartland and much harder to get to than Suncorp.
QEII (the old ANZ stadium) is too far out and has a running track making it hard to see.
I went to see an ABL game at the exhibition grounds recently and it would have been a good size for A-league if they erected temporary stands along one side, but it is pretty run down.
I don't really know what they can do.
So who are the sooks playing this week, 10 Flags, green freakin gully or burwood or pt cook or whatever?
Gold Coast as usual have 3 and a dog in the stadium from what I just saw.
:ROTFL
Melbourne Hearts - Out replaced by South Melbourne The FFA will never admit back an ethic club unless it's in a FFA Cup comp.
Gold Coast- Out - replaced by No one Agree. Hopefully Palmer is never seen in Aussie Soccer ever again.
NQ Fury- Out - Replaced by No one. Agree. A smaller national league (in terms of total number of clubs) of stronger clubs is better than a league full of financially weak and poorly supported clubs. The latter was the NSL.
All clubs playing out of smaller stadiums. Yep 20-25k stadia. The problem is as has always been is Aussie Soccer doesn't have money nor large assets (unlike the AFL with Etihad) to fund construction of its own 20-25k stadium so it has to rely on grounds run mainly for the bigger codes. AAMI Park being the exception where the Vic government built a stadium for the purpose of rectangular pitch sports.
Independent commission running the A League Getting worried as I agree again Ramps lol
Development of 2nd Division or B League Nup won't work as Oz doesn't have a culture of promotion/relegation at least at the professional sports level. Clubs in a 2nd division will have bugger all support (and lose their best players to 1st division clubs) and become a financial drain on the sport. We're not England
FA Cup style competition I have my doubts. Like the B league and midweek fixtures it comes across as another attempt to try and Euro-fy Aussie Soccer when we simply don't have that culture in the main. We use to have a NSL Cup comp. in the 80s IIRC but that flopped.
Melbourne Hearts - Out replaced by South Melbourne The FFA will never admit back an ethic club unless it's in a FFA Cup comp.
Gold Coast- Out - replaced by No one Agree. Hopefully Palmer is never seen in Aussie Soccer ever again.
NQ Fury- Out - Replaced by No one. Agree. A smaller national league (in terms of total number of clubs) of stronger clubs is better than a league full of financially weak and poorly supported clubs. The latter was the NSL.
All clubs playing out of smaller stadiums. Yep 20-25k stadia. The problem is as has always been is Aussie Soccer doesn't have money nor large assets (unlike the AFL with Etihad) to fund construction of its own 20-25k stadium so it has to rely on grounds run mainly for the bigger codes. AAMI Park being the exception where the Vic government built a stadium for the purpose of rectangular pitch sports.
Independent commission running the A League Getting worried as I agree again Ramps lol
Development of 2nd Division or B League Nup won't work as Oz doesn't have a culture of promotion/relegation at least at the professional sports level. Clubs in a 2nd division will have bugger all support (and lose their best players to 1st division clubs) and become a financial drain on the sport. We're not England
FA Cup style competition I have my doubts. Like the B league and midweek fixtures it comes across as another attempt to try and Euro-fy Aussie Soccer when we simply don't have that culture in the main. We use to have a NSL Cup comp. in the 80s IIRC but that flopped.
The game was abandoned after 20 minutes due to the torrential rain making the pitch unplayable. Hey Ramps this isn't the amateur days of the NSL :wallywink
http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=37618
what was the crowd? - please take the official crowd and deduct 4000 people as that will provide the real crowd MT.LOL. There was a problem with the ticketing up to the 15 mins in so the "official" 16,000 there Monday night was an underestimation at worst. Clutching at straws oh Hellas one ;D. That figure would be the total for a whole 3 weeks in the old NSL :lol.
what was the crowd? - please take the official crowd and deduct 4000 people as that will provide the real crowd MT.LOL. There was a problem with the ticketing up to the 15 mins in so the "official" 16,000 there Monday night was an underestimation at worst. Clutching at straws oh Hellas one ;D. That figure would be the total for a whole 3 weeks in the old NSL :lol.
then take away 4000 for the dole bludgers who got in on concession = 4000AAMI Park ain't Bob Jane Stadium Ramps :laugh:
On another matter MT - can you tell me whats happening with your defence at Melbourne Victory. They look like a rabble. None of them know how to defend properly leaving the great Michael Petkovic unprotected in goal. Just disgraceful what the Victory defence is doing to Petka IMHO.Over the winter break most Victory fans would've said we needed to sign another striker (due to Archie's ACL) and a tall centre-back. Merrick didn't really anything about either position. Kruse's massive improvement helped cover the striker front to a degree while Allsopp's signing recently fills a gap while Kruse is over in Qatar (Archie may be back Saturday night going by rumours). With the centre-backs we started with Vargas and Leijer but Roddie's been off this season as age catches up with him and we leaked soft goals early on in the season. Merrick then teamed Sukha with Leijer and that seemed to work as we went on a 4-wins straight run but then Sukha went down with injury and now Leijer's injured as well. Summed up the past 12 months. We can't seem to keep anywhere near the same 11 on the park for an extended period. IIRC with all the injuries Merrick has even tried going with a 3-5-2 so you only need to use one centre-back while clogging up the midfield. We had 6 of our starting 11 missing against Sydney; 7 if you count Pondeljak coming back from injury and so he started on the bench.
Muscat had another brain fade :P
United's 8-1 win was superb. Best attacking football i've seen in the history of the comp.LOL
And they've got Leckie coming in off the bench :o
(Won't matter when they choke in the finals ;D)
Jens Lehmann should take a poo on Mucats face.
one girl, one gerkin and a bucket
How do u reckon Carlos is gonna handle 40deg?How's anyone in that kind of heat :P. They're going to have to have mid-half drink breaks surely. It's at AAMI Park so there's no roof to shut to provide shade.
Muscat has announced his retirement. He'll finish up after the Asian Champions League.
http://sen.com.au/display-article/Muscat-calls-it-a-day/22305
It's a different comp. Muscat is a sack of poo but it is fair enough. It's the same everywhere else
The way it is in Soccer around the world WP. Stops a player or even a whole side playing dirty in one competition (say a knockout cup comp.) to get through to the next round knowing he/they can serve their punishment in another comp. which they may no chance of winning and be back for the next round of the first competition.Muscat has announced his retirement. He'll finish up after the Asian Champions League.
http://sen.com.au/display-article/Muscat-calls-it-a-day/22305
Why he is a allowed to play in the Asian Championship despite being suspended from the A-League is nothing short of laughable
so does that mean a suspension from the world cup only applies to the next world cup?
If so, that flies in the face of that logic MT?
You haven't read Ramps (10 Flags) harping on about his beloved South Melbourne Hellas for the past 6 years ;D
who do hellas play this week? Bundoora Repats?
What, up from div 9 to div 8?:lol :rollin
my hackles are raised everytime i hear the word 'terrace' and also 'soccer culture'
the game is imported and i really like it. i am a MV member and i support them always, but some of the poo that comes out of the supporters' mouths is nonsense.
tengags, south were a terrible club with a terrible culture. the reason we have an a-league now is because the NSL was a disgrace with its ethnic based clubs and all the violence, racism and trouble that caused.
unfortunately u are living in the past and cant see beyond the broken down grandstand at bob jane oval.
move on buddy
tengags, south were a terrible club with a terrible culture. the reason we have an a-league now is because the NSL was a disgrace with its ethnic based clubs and all the violence, racism and trouble that caused.
unfortunately u are living in the past and cant see beyond the broken down grandstand at bob jane oval.
move on buddy
you sound like a port adelaide supporter ramps :P
Port has been "Champions of Australia" 4 times not including their one AFL premiership.you sound like a port adelaide supporter ramps :P
Port Adelaide were never in the national comp. When they came in as Port Power theyve won 1 flag. Thats it. Port have nothing on South as a club in sport. South won National Comps. Theres a big difference.
Did you guys lose. I wasnt aware that you were playing and of your disappointment. Maybe next time lads ;D :lolWell South didn't have to worry about playing finals as they couldn't even make them in the little local league ;D
Did you guys lose. I wasnt aware that you were playing and of your disappointment. Maybe next time lads ;D :lolWell South didn't have to worry about playing finals as they couldn't even make them in the little local league ;D
Yesterday's loss probably sums up our season. Some good soccer, but too inconsistent. Time for a bit of a clean out. Thank god that bum Muscat is going. Bloody moron.;D
As for South they might have done ok in the past but they barely exist these days. They are too busy trying to find a tram out to Maidstone to play West Footscray Utd.
poor victory put to the sword again in the ACL, 5-1
3 goals to gamba in the first 11 mins.
they should really stick to bullying the domestic comp.
wont make it out of the group stages for the third time.
South must be getting pretty desperate if they are signing nutjobs like Ljubo to their squad :lol
lol Dooks ... what a shame the league your supporting is on the verge of going under. Red ink, failed franchises, millions being lost, owners not happy, low crowds ... yep its football but not as you know it. New Football lol.
The South will rise Again
The South will rise AgainUp the VPL ladder with Ljubo walking/tossed out midseason lol
The South will rise AgainUp the VPL ladder with Ljubo walking/tossed out midseason lol
Then Ramps would be on board. :PDurakovic is ex-South as well amongst a group of 5 NSL clubs he played for. Maybe Ramps will turn :lol.
Then Ramps would be on board. :PDurakovic is ex-South as well amongst a group of 5 NSL clubs he played for. Maybe Ramps will turn :lol.
You blokes are all kidding yourselves. Melbourne Victory Pffft .... your all just a bunch of South hangers on getting all our ex champions to control your destiny. Ange wouldnt piddle on Victory if it was on Fire, he wouldnt want to dehydrate :lol and waste his energy on rabble like them.
The South will Rise Again.
PS- I'll never turn!
You blokes are all kidding yourselves. Melbourne Victory Pffft .... your all just a bunch of South hangers on getting all our ex champions to control your destiny. Ange wouldnt piddle on Victory if it was on Fire, he wouldnt want to dehydrate :lol and waste his energy on rabble like them.
The South will Rise Again.
PS- I'll never turn!
You obviously didn't hear Ange P on the Morning Glory on Friday Flagman ;D
He was very high in his praise of the Melb Victory and went as far as describe them as the benchmark club in the A-League and the one that other clubs should model themselves on to bring in crowds, sponsors and members :o
:rollin :rollin
He was just trying to make you guys feel better thats all. :lol
Another quality showing on the international stage from the "Victory"
Going out in straight sets again, embarrassing the A-League once again ;D
Very good get bagging Carlos mateWith Kruse heading off to Dusseldorf we needed a good replacement. It still looks like we are keeping the same defence though which leaked soft goals from set pieces :P.
But hes not from Hellas? He must be crap.
As opposed to the rugby league reserves sized crowd Hellas et al used to pull?
As opposed to the rugby league reserves sized crowd Hellas et al used to pull?:lol
As opposed to the rugby league reserves sized crowd Hellas et al used to pull?:lol
Old NSL clubs couldn't run nor afford a chook raffle so European-based star Socceroos wouldn't even waste their time considering them ;D
As opposed to the rugby league reserves sized crowd Hellas et al used to pull?:lol
Old NSL clubs couldn't run nor afford a chook raffle so European-based star Socceroos wouldn't even waste their time considering them ;D
As opposed to the rugby league reserves sized crowd Hellas et al used to pull?:lol
Old NSL clubs couldn't run nor afford a chook raffle so European-based star Socceroos wouldn't even waste their time considering them ;D
When Hellas was playing at middle park before the race track the standard of football was very good.
And the crowds
were
large and very passionate.
One game?As opposed to the rugby league reserves sized crowd Hellas et al used to pull?:lol
Old NSL clubs couldn't run nor afford a chook raffle so European-based star Socceroos wouldn't even waste their time considering them ;D
When Hellas was playing at middle park before the race track the standard of football was very good.
And the crowds
were
large and very passionate.
Malcolm MacDonald otherwise known as Supermac a superstar at Artsennal and Newcastle Utd was just one player to wear a South Melbourne shirt. Havent seen anyone of that quality in the A League yet.
More than that - It as in the late 70s.No more than a couple. In those days NSL clubs would invite OS players to play one or a few matches with them during the June/July European off-season. It wasn't a full-time season contract.
Victory are having a press conference tomorrow midday regarding Harry Kewell.
Victory are having a press conference tomorrow midday regarding Harry Kewell.
I have lost track of this, any idea of what might happen?
:thumbsup
Victory are having a press conference tomorrow midday regarding Harry Kewell.
I have lost track of this, any idea of what might happen?
:thumbsup
Well I don't think they will be having a presser to say he aint coming to the Victory
End of the day though who gives a poooooooooooooooo
Maybe 450 million people?
Givin harry is in this country best 3 players produced and linked tonclubs in Asian. Arabia. Europe.
:thumbsupVictory are having a press conference tomorrow midday regarding Harry Kewell.
I have lost track of this, any idea of what might happen?
:thumbsup
Well I don't think they will be having a presser to say he aint coming to the Victory
End of the day though who gives a poooooooooooooooo
Welcome harry to Melbourne football club ..Signed but not yet over the line.
Beauty when the supporters realise hes not up to it anymore the crowds will go back down and Victory would have done their dough ;D
LMFAO at all these soccer people creaming their jocks about Kewell.
Got news for you people its a bandaid solution. Kewell will stop the bleeding for 1 year tops then when he fails to fire Australian Soccer will be back where it belongs, on the brink of collapse
LMFAO at all these soccer people creaming their jocks about Kewell.
Got news for you people its a bandaid solution. Kewell will stop the bleeding for 1 year tops then when he fails to fire Australian Soccer will be back where it belongs, on the brink of collapse
LMFAO at all these soccer people creaming their jocks about Kewell.
Got news for you people its a bandaid solution. Kewell will stop the bleeding for 1 year tops then when he fails to fire Australian Soccer will be back where it belongs, on the brink of collapse
Melbourne victory football club have Many thousands of fans and members for 7+ odd years now long before kewell. And the Will keep on after kewell.
One game the Grand Final. Woo hoo.
They play in front of 7000 in the Champions League at the Dome in an empty stadium. North vs Port gets a bigger crowd.
Kewell will milk the Victory for what it is worth.
Same with Emerton when he goes to Sydney FC.
North QLD is gone.
Brisbane won a championship and were on the brink of receivership.
Adelaide needed the FFA to step in. Perth too.
Central Coast were in trouble for a while and Newcastle were lucky to find new owners when they did.
Six out of the 11 teams that began last season were in financial woes and one didn't make it. FACT.
South Melbourne, Marconi, Adel City, Melbourne Knights, Perth Glory, Woolongong Wolves, Melbourne Knights, Sydney Olympic for years were the backbone of the league with not much financial diasarray as exists now.
To make a comparison if you can be cynical on the financial state of Naught, St Kilda, Port and Dogs it would be more than hypocritical to turn away and see that more than half the A League clubs are in trouble financially and the only thing that is prolonging their existence is the Foxtel TV rights and the Socceroos performing reasonably well in the AFC and qualifying for the WC.
Other than Adelaide United no Aussie Club has looked to progress any further than the group stage in the Champions League. Victory in 2007 lost in Indonesia and Thailand. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Real quality there. Its not just the league and the way it is packaged but the clubs and the standard of soccer is so inferior.
Out of the World Cup squad that was selected last year how many plied their trade in the A League. There are some VPL players who could make Allsopp and Thompson look worse than what they are. FACT
All these new soccer fans who let it be said if Oz never qualified for the WC in 2006 would still be talking about the Wallabies and Glenn McGrath Shane Warne and Pat Rafter yet all of a sudden have some sort of vague idea on the history of Soccer in this country. Its like talking about the Sydney Swans or Brisbane yet not acknowledging anything prior to 1982 or 1996.
Marconi. Hellas. Knights etc. I see as a postive. These clubs that still exist and will keep on Doing so willdown the track play. Australia FA cups against aleague clubs and this should led to mny good things. I hope to see divisions and promotion.
Victory has has very tough groups and has been unlucky to not progress. Adelaide were given very soft groups. I think you will find Asian football is a quite good quailty and beating these sides should not be takn for granted. That said if you like at the current Mvfc squad compared to 2004 the standard of football is on the rise.
Archie was the 2nd highest goal scorer in the Belgium league in his lady season from memory and was bought by psv so he must be of some quailty. I watched him nutmeg argentia players players who are on 130000$ per week from the members of the mcg. No one claims allsopp is a superstar but he is a decent football with a big heart. He won't be in victory best11 this season.
2006/aleague. Squad. Kewell. Culina. Moore. Skoko. Lazardis. Aloisi. Beacchamp.
Archie Thompson. Sterjovicc. A fair few currently play aleague or did up untill recently. From memory the back ups in Germany were leijer. Sarkies. Pafata who are also aleague.
In regards to new soccer fans, I think you might be forgetting how many people in australia devestated after Iran/mcg. 97. Anyone who wants to get an idea of thr history of thrsport in this country would get a decent account from the book. Wigs. Shilers. And sissyters
LMFAO at all these soccer people creaming their jocks about Kewell.
Got news for you people its a bandaid solution. Kewell will stop the bleeding for 1 year tops then when he fails to fire Australian Soccer will be back where it belongs, on the brink of collapse
Melbourne victory football club have Many thousands of fans and members for 7+ odd years now long before kewell. And the Will keep on after kewell.
Edited to correct quote. Also keep the personal insults off the board
Other than Adelaide United no Aussie Club has looked to progress any further than the group stage in the Champions League. Victory in 2007 lost in Indonesia and Thailand. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Real quality there. Its not just the league and the way it is packaged but the clubs and the standard of soccer is so inferior.The ACL schedule is out of whack with the A-league as the Australian teams from the year before play in it at the end of the next season. The ACL this year had Sydney FC who were 2nd bottom in the A-league and Victory were middle-of-the road with a poor defence. No surprise they went crap as they were crap sides. If Brisbane had played instead they would've easily made the knockout stage. The only time Victory has played in the ACL when near the top of the A-league was two years ago and they had the ridiculous situation of playing an A-league final then straight after the game rushing to Tullamarine to fly 8 hours to play in the ACL within 24 hours. Not even in top flight European Soccer with big clubs with strong squads that have depth does that happen.
Did emerton play in the ..06 world cup?
Kewell, Emerton, A-League :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
:rollin
What can we do to turn you around WP? Incorporate point posts and a 20m wide goal mouth? :lol
What can we do to turn you around WP? Incorporate point posts and a 20m wide goal mouth? :lol
Nothing it would seem tiga.
I admit I am not a soccer fan. Find it a boring game not enough scoring for me - though some team team scored 8 goals against A-rsenal this monring I heard ;D.
I can sit through the odd EPL game but the A-League is just a boring spectacle to me
Im with you WP. I watch the world cups and the occasional EPL but can't stand A-League. Im not sure if thats because there's no marquee players that draw me in or just the standard of play.
I'd rather watch A-League than a lot of EPL matches. Effing Ar-senal are doing my head in atm ;D
Im with you WP. I watch the world cups and the occasional EPL but can't stand A-League. Im not sure if thats because there's no marquee players that draw me in or just the standard of play.
"Standard of play"
Thanks tiger101
I was trying to think of the right phrase to use but the brain isn't functioning to well today with these new super strength anti-biotics I am on and couldn't think fo the right words
But that's it "Standard of play"
That's what I find boring - there just isn't any flare in the games
I'd rather watch A-League than a lot of EPL matches. Effing Ar-senal are doing my head in atm ;D
I'd rather watch EPL La Liga or VPL than watch the A League.
Manchester Utd are the team to beat again this year.
:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleepThe A-league would be already averaging crowds on par with the NRL despite being only 7 years old ;). Another 40k at Etihad tonight.
Soccer sucks.Then don't watch it or comment in a soccer thread. No one is forcing anyone to.
Soccer sucks.Then don't watch it or comment in a soccer thread. No one is forcing anyone to.
:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleepThe A-league would be already averaging crowds on par with the NRL despite being only 7 years old ;). Another 40k at Etihad tonight.
Anyway Victory will be looking for a new coach soon. Mehmet has no idea given the strikepower he has at his disposal. He's too old school and predictable for modern soccer where you need to play and share the ball at teammates feet and spread the play quickly to open up and get behind the opposition defence.
Yep Brisbane are so far ahead of the rest at the moment in terms of gamestyle it isn't funny. Victory plays them next weekend. At least we finally scored and won -1 over Wellington today. Up into the top 4.:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleepThe A-league would be already averaging crowds on par with the NRL despite being only 7 years old ;). Another 40k at Etihad tonight.
Anyway Victory will be looking for a new coach soon. Mehmet has no idea given the strikepower he has at his disposal. He's too old school and predictable for modern soccer where you need to play and share the ball at teammates feet and spread the play quickly to open up and get behind the opposition defence.
I actually watched the game last night becasue there was nothing else on and I cannot belive after 90 + minutes there was no score :sleep :sleep :sleep
watched the Brisbane game the night before and that was good to watch
but Victory they are a :sleep fest and Heart well they just don't know how to score let alone win ;D
yeah good crowd but were they actually watchng or just chanting :huh
Durakovic looks like he's aiming for worst coach in the A-league award. 2-0 up against 10 men and still walk away with another draw :P.
I actually agree Ramps. After Merrick, Victory needed a modern coach who understands the modern game. Mehmet just doesn't have a clue how to use the squad at his disposal. He brought Solorzano down from Brisbane who was one of the top scorers and at least has some pace but just refuses to play him.Durakovic looks like he's aiming for worst coach in the A-league award. 2-0 up against 10 men and still walk away with another draw :P.
I like Mehmet but he should never have gotten a job as the head coach either at A League or even VPL level. Good assistant is Mehmet.
Why didn't they make Ned Zelic coach?Too much of an enigma to be a coach.
rubbish crowd for team beckham
and where's harry?
rubbish crowd for team beckham
and where's harry?
why are you posting in a thread about a sport you don't like?
They exhibition games with high-profile overseas players/teams use to be good in the old NSL days when we were in little Oceania and hadn't made a WC in 20 years but now they are just a nuisance and achieve nothing being held midseason of the A-league. Just a money making exercise for the promoters who were charging something like $90+ for tickets while the crowd wasn't a normal Victory crowd given the cheer squads (or active supporters as they call them in soccer) were prevented from being there for some strange reason.
They weren't charged $90 to go and Sydney is more the place for one-off celebrity exhibition events where it's more important to be seen in the presence of a sporting celebrity than watching the actual sport :whistle. They seem to only turn up to these unlike Melbournians who are regular weekly sports goers. Sydney FC is lucky to get 10-12k normally. Also Beckham wasn't far off his prime 4 years ago when he was still getting games for England and there was still plenty of global hype around him having just left Real Madrid for LA. He's 36 now and nearing retirement. May sound like excuses but I know a few Victory fans who like me couldn't have cared less about it.They exhibition games with high-profile overseas players/teams use to be good in the old NSL days when we were in little Oceania and hadn't made a WC in 20 years but now they are just a nuisance and achieve nothing being held midseason of the A-league. Just a money making exercise for the promoters who were charging something like $90+ for tickets while the crowd wasn't a normal Victory crowd given the cheer squads (or active supporters as they call them in soccer) were prevented from being there for some strange reason.
didn't 85k go to this exibition match just 4 years ago in Sydney :huh
in the rain
sounds like excuses to me
whoa, textbook excuses, lookout :shh
whoa, textbook excuses, lookout :shhTextbook excuse would be blaming the crappy weather for the 16k crowd on Saturday night rather than the form or rather lack of it of the team ;).
... the coach (who's clearly clueless on so many levels it seems ;D)1-0 up with 20 mins to go and he brings on a attacking midfielder for a defensive one. Yep WP he's clueless!
whoa, textbook excuses, lookout :shhTextbook excuse would be blaming the crappy weather for the 16k crowd on Saturday night rather than the form or rather lack of it of the team ;)
Saturday night - Victory drew 1-1 with Adelaide Utd at Etihad.whoa, textbook excuses, lookout :shhTextbook excuse would be blaming the crappy weather for the 16k crowd on Saturday night rather than the form or rather lack of it of the team ;)
What game was this? :huh
Saturday night - Victory drew 1-1 with Adelaide Utd at Etihad.
Saturday night - Victory drew 1-1 with Adelaide Utd at Etihad.whoa, textbook excuses, lookout :shhTextbook excuse would be blaming the crappy weather for the 16k crowd on Saturday night rather than the form or rather lack of it of the team ;)
What game was this? :huh
The Victory were contracted to play so many games at Etihad. Saturday night was their last for the season. All Victory home games will now be at AAMI Park which will please the Soccer hardcores who prefer watching in rectangular stadiums but it will further limit the crowds compared to Etihad. Mind you the way Victory are playing under Durakovic, who as WP said hasn't got a clue as manager, they are doing a good job of that themselves.Saturday night - Victory drew 1-1 with Adelaide Utd at Etihad.whoa, textbook excuses, lookout :shhTextbook excuse would be blaming the crappy weather for the 16k crowd on Saturday night rather than the form or rather lack of it of the team ;)
What game was this? :huh
16k for a Victory game :o
Eff they're trolling themselves
Hey how come every time i catch a bit of A-league they aren't playing at that new stadium? My BOL says it is awesome but they never play there :huh
Great to see a coach sacked, should be more of it. :cheers
Jim Magilton is the new Victory coach for the rest of the season.I didn't notice much difference last night under the new coach apart from defending deeper but to be fair if the main problem is fitness (Victory can't run out games) then there's not much a new coach can do in a week. Hopefully with the January transfer window opening in 3 days time Magilton can add some fresh and better quality midfielders who can last 90 mins.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/victory-name-new-coach-as-jim-magilton/story-e6frfg8x-1226238703710
A UK coach = more long ball :P
Clive Palmer is a legend :thumbsup Hes the only bloke currently involved in the A League who knows what he's talking about. Well done to him as for the rest of the A League it is indeed a joke.Palmer is an idiot. Puts tens of millions of dollars into a sport he claims he doesn't like and then locks out fans and blames everyone else for why no ones goes to their games :stupid. Let's hope he goes across to the NRL Titans and stuffs them up. Andy D and the AFL will be hoping so.
Clive Palmer is a legend :thumbsup Hes the only bloke currently involved in the A League who knows what he's talking about. Well done to him as for the rest of the A League it is indeed a joke.Palmer is an idiot. Puts tens of millions of dollars into a sport he claims he doesn't like and then locks out fans and blames everyone else for why no ones goes to their games :stupid. Let's hope he goes across to the NRL Titans and stuffs them up. Andy D and the AFL will be hoping so.
Anyway the FFA has just terminated Gold Coast's licence as the should have done yonks ago. A Western Sydney A-league team should come in now to make up the 10 clubs.
It is understood prominent businessman and passionate football follower Paul Lederer told the FFA on Friday he does not want to be involved in the new franchise because he believes the business model is a recipe for disaster and would leave the club open to incurring huge financial losses.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/white-knight-rejects-business-model-for-a-western-sydney-team/story-fn63e0vj-1226282003362
Just seen the press conference. Clive just dropped some massive bombs on the FFA and the A League. Cant see the A League surviving. Clive has done the biggest most positive thing in Australian Soccer History. We need to get rid of Lowy and the others who have wrecked the game with their policies over the last 8 years. Its time for a Royal Commission. ;D
Just seen the press conference. Clive just dropped some massive bombs on the FFA and the A League. Cant see the A League surviving. Clive has done the biggest most positive thing in Australian Soccer History. We need to get rid of Lowy and the others who have wrecked the game with their policies over the last 8 years. Its time for a Royal Commission. ;D
FIFA will only recognise one association in each country and in Australia that's the FFA so Palmer hasn't got a lead to stand on. Any player who dared join him if he started up a rebel competition would be banned from international Soccer and from playing overseas. Palmer wanting an injunction on the GCU licence ban has been nobbled as well. The sooner he is kicked out of the sport altogether the better.
Whatever happened 50 years ago isn't the FFA or A-league's fault Ramps. The fact is the NSL and Soccer Australia went broke in the 90s/early 00s and that's why a new admin and league was needed.FIFA will only recognise one association in each country and in Australia that's the FFA so Palmer hasn't got a lead to stand on. Any player who dared join him if he started up a rebel competition would be banned from international Soccer and from playing overseas. Palmer wanting an injunction on the GCU licence ban has been nobbled as well. The sooner he is kicked out of the sport altogether the better.
I love it when people like you bring up fifa and then stick the boots into South Melbourne. If it wasnt for South Melbourne and its 1st President Theo Marmaras Australia would never have been allowed back into FIFA. It was Marmaras and South who got Australia back into FIFA after Australia had been suspended and then the racists spat on us. I hope Clive hasnt finished with your league or FFA. I hope he sticks it right up those bastards.
Whatever happened 50 years ago isn't the FFA or A-league's fault Ramps. The fact is the NSL and Soccer Australia went broke in the 90s/early 00s and that's why a new admin and league was needed.FIFA will only recognise one association in each country and in Australia that's the FFA so Palmer hasn't got a lead to stand on. Any player who dared join him if he started up a rebel competition would be banned from international Soccer and from playing overseas. Palmer wanting an injunction on the GCU licence ban has been nobbled as well. The sooner he is kicked out of the sport altogether the better.
I love it when people like you bring up fifa and then stick the boots into South Melbourne. If it wasnt for South Melbourne and its 1st President Theo Marmaras Australia would never have been allowed back into FIFA. It was Marmaras and South who got Australia back into FIFA after Australia had been suspended and then the racists spat on us. I hope Clive hasnt finished with your league or FFA. I hope he sticks it right up those bastards.
From what I've heard the FFA is planning to go further with the re-organisation of each of the state leagues into a 12 regional representative team comps. 8 metro and 4 country. So say in the western suburbs Green Gully (St Albans) and Melb. Knights (Sunshine) will have to vy for who is the western suburbs team or merge. Add to this the six state champions will then join the 10 A-league clubs in a 16-club FFA Cup knockout tournament.
Canberra could have a team in an expanded A-League competition as soon as next season, Football Federation Australia chairman Frank Lowy has revealed.
In an exclusive interview with Fox Sports FC, Lowy said that Canberra's bid met a lot of the requirements for an A-League licence and FFA would look to get the club operating in time for the start of the 2012-2013 season.
Lowy also revealed that he still held out some hope for Gold Coast United to continue playing in the national league after meetings were held with potential investors last week.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fox-sports-fc/frank-lowy-tells-fox-sports-fc-he-wants-canberra-team-in-expanded-a-league-competition-next-season/story-fn5232iz-1226298414031
Canberra team might be the new one in 2012I can't see it happening and even if the FFA did go down that path it would be a massive risk. Two soccer clubs in Canberra (City and Cosmos) didn't last long in the old NSL due to lack of financial backing and poor crowds.QuoteCanberra could have a team in an expanded A-League competition as soon as next season, Football Federation Australia chairman Frank Lowy has revealed.
In an exclusive interview with Fox Sports FC, Lowy said that Canberra's bid met a lot of the requirements for an A-League licence and FFA would look to get the club operating in time for the start of the 2012-2013 season.
Lowy also revealed that he still held out some hope for Gold Coast United to continue playing in the national league after meetings were held with potential investors last week.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fox-sports-fc/frank-lowy-tells-fox-sports-fc-he-wants-canberra-team-in-expanded-a-league-competition-next-season/story-fn5232iz-1226298414031
Olympiacos are coming down to Melbourne to play Victory at Etihad Stadium on May 19 at 7.30pm
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/234995,greek-giants-olympiacos-to-play-victory.aspx
Olympiacos are coming down to Melbourne to play Victory at Etihad Stadium on May 19 at 7.30pm
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/234995,greek-giants-olympiacos-to-play-victory.aspx
Would love to go and see the Greek Champions annihilate that poorly organised side but alas it is scheduled on the same night as Dreamtime at the G.
Would have been better to schedule the Heart to play them since both clubs have the same jerseys.
A League has now made Gold Coast defunct adding to North Queensland and Auckland Kingz.
Maybe they should have gone for the Canberra side who already had fans who had taken out memberships at $200 a piece at a total of $400,000.
A League will need this West Sydney side to be successful and not another white elephant.
Only Melbourne Heart from the new expansion sides has survived and has a sound business plan.
caught someone from FFa on the news saying they dont accept he can just hand the licence back
:lol
professional sport is hard enough to flourish in if you are trying. imagine forcing someone to field a team when they don't to :wallywink
Ange is coming home to Melbourne to coach the Victory :thumbsup
Ange is coming home to Melbourne to coach the Victory :thumbsup
With Ange coming home I wonder if Flagman will sign up seeing Ange is a South Melbourne legend. ;)
If anyone can turn Melb Victory it's Ange
South Melbourne FC - Australia's most successful club in Australian Football History and FIFA's Club of the Century! I know that burns all you Victory people but it is what it is.
The South Will Rise Again! Just ask Postecoglou and Trimboli and Petersen. Actually go and get a list of your club shareholders lol (Even though theyll probably do their dough- its not my problem). You'll be in for a shock - The South Will Never Die!
The VPL updates have stopped since South lost 1-3 to Green Gully ;D.
South Melbourne FC - Australia's most successful club in Australian Football History and FIFA's Club of the Century! I know that burns all you Victory people but it is what it is.
The South Will Rise Again! Just ask Postecoglou and Trimboli and Petersen. Actually go and get a list of your club shareholders lol (Even though theyll probably do their dough- its not my problem). You'll be in for a shock - The South Will Never Die!
Maybe but nobody cares.
I was busy updates starting again from next week.
I was busy updates starting again from next week.
but the updates :( ?
I was busy updates starting again from next week.
but the updates :( ?
Relegation?
I was busy updates starting again from next week.
but the updates :( ?
Relegation?
I been pretty unwell lately, I dont think South will get relegated. South beat Heidelberg and got the 3 points needed. To be honest, Im not doing alot of time on the net or doing other stuff just concentrating on my health thats all.Take care Ramps.
The new Western Sydney A-League franchise has revealed its logo and kit ...
Western Sydney Wanderers
(http://static.ffa.sportalhosting.com/site/_content/article/00047851-leadimage.jpg)(https://p.twimg.com/AwM3t0eCIAEksXg.jpg)
The FFA have stuck with a traditional Soccer look copying Flamengo's black and red hoops. Looks good IMO.
The name, the culture, the colours, the logo are all about the value of heritage. So much so that when the Wanderers play their home matches at Parramatta Stadium next season, the statue of Ray Price might be covered by a hessian bag, and a new statue of a former Socceroo from the west - perhaps a Mark Bosnich or a Paul Okon - will stand alongside in all its glory.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/ffa-ensures-games-rich-history-is-no-longer-hidden-away-20120711-21wa6.html#ixzz20OBgDlHl
Viduka & Schwarzie were better players.
The key for Sydney FC is keeping the bandwagon fans once Del Piero finishes up in 2 years time.
SBS look like they will showing one free-to-air A-league game a week under the new $40m p.a. over 5 years tv rights deal. It's a good choice as long as SBS don't do what they did with the old NSL and show only the NSW-based clubs most weeks.
The NSL was getting just $2m a year from Ch 7 in the late 90s and the first A-League TV deal with Fox was $21m over 7 years. So it's a significant increase (no one is deludedly saying it should be up with the massive AFL and NRL TV deals). At least now the A-league club salary caps will be covered from the tv rights money.The key for Sydney FC is keeping the bandwagon fans once Del Piero finishes up in 2 years time.
SBS look like they will showing one free-to-air A-league game a week under the new $40m p.a. over 5 years tv rights deal. It's a good choice as long as SBS don't do what they did with the old NSL and show only the NSW-based clubs most weeks.
40 million a year for the socceroos and A League games. Oh Dear. Theres probably about 10 million in contra including which means not much cash at all. Del Pierro was a good signing but the interest will wear of the way it wore off with Kewell. The A League is in diabolical trouble if thats the best they can do in terms of TV Rights. Lowy - OUT!
Ange learning the hard way that a coach is as only as good as the cattle at his disposal. Reminds me of Hardwick's first 6 rounds when we got flogged by 10+ goals every week whil trying to learn a new gameplan. The poor 20 y.o. goalkeeper Thomas had a shocker as well.Isn't it great that the big heads at Melbourne victory are so silent now that they are resting nicely on the bottom of the ladder.
As for the rest of the A-league, the FFA would be very happy so far. Del Piero and Heskey both scoring goals in front of 35k at the Sydney vs Newcastle game. Something the old NSL couldn't even dream about.
Ever since the new board came in to the Victory the whole club has gone to skata.:clapping :clapping :clapping
I am not an A League fan but I am starting to warm to the Heart. Wear red and white same colours as my team in Greece in Olympiakos and off the field they seem to be very stable and settled with a board and team working hard to get results.
The Victory wear navy blue, enough said could not support a side that wears navy blue as its main strip
and the Victory carry on like their AFL counterparts in navy blue making out like it is an inheritance of theirs to win every title year in year out and when it doesn't happen look out. Stuff them.
Victory 2 - 1 Adelaide :thumbsup ....... hmmm what were the critics saying :wallywinkDon't tell me you support those arrogant Blues as well?
The whole of Adelaide must have been in a generous mood yesterday :lol.
If you could include the Heart in the title it would be much appreciated.I'll just rename the thread under the title "A-League" for ease.
:clappingIf you could include the Heart in the title it would be much appreciated.I'll just rename the thread under the title "A-League" for ease.
Now where are all those Heart fans from a few weeks back now their team is last on the ladder :whistle lol.
Ian Crook 2pm will resign from Sydney FC.The hype and expectation with ADP arriving appears to have gotten to him. Just shows it's a team game and Sydney's squad is poor. ADP's hammies mean he can't play a full game either.
David Beckham could be the next superstar to be playing in the Hyundai A-League - now it's up to Football Federation Australia to make it happen.
With the Major League Soccer competition in America finishing in a fortnight, Fox Sports can reveal the LA Galaxy megastar has been offered to several A-League clubs about the possibility of a potential 10-game guest stint.
But for the move to eventuate, the FFA needs to be on board to support the deal financially.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/exclusive-la-galaxy-star-david-beckham-could-be-next-a-league-star-on-a-10-game-guest-stint/story-e6frfkp9-1226518110819#ixzz2CLrwzZ3y
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/exclusive-la-galaxy-star-david-beckham-could-be-next-a-league-star-on-a-10-game-guest-stint/story-e6frfkp9-1226518110819
Lol 10 game stint.Heart probably couldn't even afford that ;D.
Didn't David rule out coming to the a-league. I thought thats what they said he said tonight on the news.He did but Heskey said Aussie Soccer should go after Becks and there's talk the FFA aren't giving up yet. Time will tell.
Apparently Singo is getting in on the act to try and tempt Beckham to the central coast. He has the $$$ and the hutspa to do it and as MT said, the FFA are going hard on this despite the conflicting reports.It'll all come down to pleasing Posh :yep. Give her and Becks a nice
Del Piero might bail the way Sydney are going. Another loss last night. Talk already that he isn't happy. At Juve he would have got use to winning and being at a club that wins trophies.
Melbourne should give the Asian Champions League a good shake.
Melbourne should give the Asian Champions League a good shake.
:lol
wont get near it
they should just send Adelaide every year
English Premier League giants Manchester United will return to Australia for the first time in 14 years to face an A-League All Stars squad in July.
Destination NSW and Football Federation Australia on Monday announced the Red Devils would play in a friendly match at Sydney's ANZ Stadium on July 20.
Organisers said United would bring their full squad for the match with the likes of Wayne Rooney, Robin Van Persie, Rio Ferdinand and Nani set to play in front of a certain sell-out crowd.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/manchester-united-to-play-aleague-allstars-in-sydney-20121210-2b4j7.html#ixzz2EbZjbnp6
Since the Scotsman's departure, much to the excitement of most of the morons that wear the blue and white, the club has been a rabble.
It's time to look to the future of Melbourne as I did and start to acknowledge the Heart.
Sitting nicely at 3 and always making victory look stupid. :clapping
Since the Scotsman's departure, much to the excitement of most of the morons that wear the blue and white, the club has been a rabble.
It's time to look to the future of Melbourne as I did and start to acknowledge the Heart.
Sitting nicely at 3 and always making victory look stupid. :clapping
Sitting nicely with his early season calls (Essendon, Victory) and always making himself look stupid :clapping
Club P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Central Coast Mariners FC 12 8 3 1 22 9 13 27
2 Adelaide United FC 12 8 1 3 21 16 5 25
3 Melbourne Victory FC. 12 6 2 4 20 22 -2 20
4 W Sydney Wanderers FC 12 6 1 5 14 9 5 19
5 Perth Glory FC 12 5 2 5 13 10 3 17
6 Newcastle Jets FC 12 5 1 6 16 23 -7 16
7 Wellington Phoenix FC 12 3 4 5 15 16 -1 13
8 Melbourne Heart FC. 12 3 3 6 13 16 -3 12
9 Brisbane Roar FC 12 3 2 7 14 15 -1 11
10 Sydney FC 12 3 1 8 15 27 -12 10
Zzzzzzzzing!
1 Central Coast FC
2 Adelaide United FC
3 Melbourne Victory FC
4 WestSyd Wanderers FC
5 Perth Glory FC
6 Wellington Phoenix FC
7 Newcastle Jets FC
8 Brisbane Roar FC
9 Sydney FC
10 Melbourne Heart FC
Heart fans should still check the ladder ;). Only took almost 3 months to have something to crow about lol. Btw West Sydney's home form has been very good so no shame in losing to them 1-2. Poppa deserves all the credit he is getting as their manager while Ono is a class act. The worst thing to come out of the game for Victory is Finkler's knee injury.
The Victorian colors are navy blue...Ramps would love that ;D.
Hence e victory kit.
Heart is a joke. Bring Hellas into the league int their place
Victory back up to third thanks again to Rojas :thumbsup.Not for long MT...After an expected loss to CCM, the Wanderers should chalk up their 8th win against the lowly Phoenix and The Victory should go down to CCM. :thumbsup
Also there's talk of Perth Glory trying to get Michael Owen.
Victory game down in Tassie (Aurora) so it'll be unfamiliar conditions for CCM. Victory also drew with them 2-2 earlier in the season when Melbourne were still finding their way with Ange's new gameplan.Victory back up to third thanks again to Rojas :thumbsup.Not for long MT...After an expected loss to CCM, the Wanderers should chalk up their 8th win against the lowly Phoenix and The Victory should go down to CCM. :thumbsup
Also there's talk of Perth Glory trying to get Michael Owen.
The top 4 looks pretty settled now with a 6 point gap between your boys tiga and Newcastle. Victory should have won on the weekend so Melbourne won't hold any fears of the other top sides if we are still 3rd/4th when finals come around.Victory game down in Tassie (Aurora) so it'll be unfamiliar conditions for CCM. Victory also drew with them 2-2 earlier in the season when Melbourne were still finding their way with Ange's new gameplan.Victory back up to third thanks again to Rojas :thumbsup.Not for long MT...After an expected loss to CCM, the Wanderers should chalk up their 8th win against the lowly Phoenix and The Victory should go down to CCM. :thumbsup
Also there's talk of Perth Glory trying to get Michael Owen.
I'm thinking of buying a pet dog. I think I will call him Victory. Lets hope he doesnt poo himself constantly ;DI believe Victory won last night and didn't choke so the latter doesn't apply ;). You should name your dog after Adelaide Utd. They are a rabble :yep ;D.
Going to A League games is like taking a chance with your own life. Its just shameful. Full bottles being chucked at people, flares lit that can cause serious injuries, chairs being hurled. Its not safe IMHO. I am against this type of violence.
had to admire the wanderers since i saw their fans beat the poo out glamour fc supporters one lovely sunday afternoon in the inner city
none of this faux tough guy poo of ripping out seats and throwing flares "victory" style, just good honest street thuggery
gotta love the westies :thumbsup ;D
had to admire the wanderers since i saw their fans beat the poo out glamour fc supporters one lovely sunday afternoon in the inner city
none of this faux tough guy poo of ripping out seats and throwing flares "victory" style, just good honest street thuggery
gotta love the westies :thumbsup ;D
:lol They would do the huggable minge proud.
Only 3 pts off top now.
had to admire the wanderers since i saw their fans beat the poo out glamour fc supporters one lovely sunday afternoon in the inner city
none of this faux tough guy poo of ripping out seats and throwing flares "victory" style, just good honest street thuggery
gotta love the westies :thumbsup ;D
No one cares what you think, Dookie.
Big Eugene Dadi would be unreal
No one cares what you think, Dookie.
Big Eugene Dadi would be unreal
Would he? Would he really?
more rubbish aimed at destroying the old ethnic clubs. an absolute disgrace organised by a bunch of flogs.So South aren't going to win the VPL anytime soon to qualify ;) ;D.
Lucas Neill looking to return to Australia to play in the A-League with the Melbourne Heart
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/lucas-neill-is-poised-to-return-to-australia-to-play-in-the-a-league-with-the-melbourne-heart/story-fndcvh7n-1226577769075
more rubbish aimed at destroying the old ethnic clubs. an absolute disgrace organised by a bunch of flogs.So South aren't going to win the VPL anytime soon to qualify ;) ;D.
So if South won the VPL and then NPL in a few years time when promotion to the A-league was on offer they would knock promotion back? :huh3more rubbish aimed at destroying the old ethnic clubs. an absolute disgrace organised by a bunch of flogs.So South aren't going to win the VPL anytime soon to qualify ;) ;D.
Has nothin to do with it. Its just another disgusting attack on the NSL clubs. Its simply disgraceful whats going on.
THE bling is back at Sydney FC with the club capturing the signature of Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill.
The 34-year-old looked set to join Melbourne Heart but a more lucrative 11th hour bid from FC scuppered the deal.
He will now line up alongside Italian superstar Alessandro Del Piero and Socceroos teammate Brett Emerton and should be cleared in time for the round 22 clash with Heart on Sunday week.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-captain-lucas-neill-joins-sydney-fc/story-e6frfg8x-1226579345452
Lucas Neill signs with Sydney F.CHello Dad's Army FC :yepQuote
THE bling is back at Sydney FC with the club capturing the signature of Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill.
The 34-year-old looked set to join Melbourne Heart but a more lucrative 11th hour bid from FC scuppered the deal.
He will now line up alongside Italian superstar Alessandro Del Piero and Socceroos teammate Brett Emerton and should be cleared in time for the round 22 clash with Heart on Sunday week.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-captain-lucas-neill-joins-sydney-fc/story-e6frfg8x-1226579345452
Poot >:(Injuries have come at the wrong time when we are playing the other top 4 sides around us. No Archie, Traore, Ansell and Finkler robbed Victory of badly needed class which meant the Wanderers just needed to keep Rojas in check which they did. Add to that Leijer had his worst game ever and Coe was disappointing in goal as well which gifted both West Sydney's goals. Wanderers clearly deserved to win though as they were the more polished team and took their chances.
Lucas Neill signs with Sydney F.CHello Dad's Army FC :yepQuote
THE bling is back at Sydney FC with the club capturing the signature of Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill.
The 34-year-old looked set to join Melbourne Heart but a more lucrative 11th hour bid from FC scuppered the deal.
He will now line up alongside Italian superstar Alessandro Del Piero and Socceroos teammate Brett Emerton and should be cleared in time for the round 22 clash with Heart on Sunday week.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-captain-lucas-neill-joins-sydney-fc/story-e6frfg8x-1226579345452
What's worse is the FFA are paying for these high profile salaries. A nice way for Sydney to avoid the cost and salary cap :scream.
Ange and Victory weren't interested after the circus around Kewell last season. True about Sydney ;D.Lucas Neill signs with Sydney F.CHello Dad's Army FC :yepQuote
THE bling is back at Sydney FC with the club capturing the signature of Socceroos skipper Lucas Neill.
The 34-year-old looked set to join Melbourne Heart but a more lucrative 11th hour bid from FC scuppered the deal.
He will now line up alongside Italian superstar Alessandro Del Piero and Socceroos teammate Brett Emerton and should be cleared in time for the round 22 clash with Heart on Sunday week.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-captain-lucas-neill-joins-sydney-fc/story-e6frfg8x-1226579345452
What's worse is the FFA are paying for these high profile salaries. A nice way for Sydney to avoid the cost and salary cap :scream.
well it's not like someone of ADP's calibre is going to play in Melbourne, but they should change Sydney FC's name to Circus FC, the travelling sideshow, kinda like the Harlem Globetrotters but poo
whats an Anglo club?..lol
As for Victory - hello zero depth :-X.
As for Victory - hello zero depth :-X.
lol @ Coe. Bloke has to go.
As for Victory - hello zero depth :-X.
lol @ Coe. Bloke has to go.
:lol @ dwaino's best Dr Seuss Impersonation
Isn't anyone going to talk about how wonderful it is to see the West Sydney Wanderers at the top of the table? They are a machine.....a machine I tell ya! First year in the comp and they are taking all before them. Mind you I think Popovic is a gun coach and has worked wonders with them. :thumbsup :bow :cheers :clapping
Isn't anyone going to talk about how wonderful it is to see the West Sydney Wanderers at the top of the table? They are a machine.....a machine I tell ya! First year in the comp and they are taking all before them. Mind you I think Popovic is a gun coach and has worked wonders with them. :thumbsup :bow :cheers :clapping
When will World Cup Hero Johnny Aloisi get the sack? And how ugly will it be?If they don't win tonight it could be all over for Aloisi. Mind you Heart are having a Giesch year - win at home; lose away - so they'll probably get up tonight.
Btw Wanderers are home and hosed for the (minor) premiership.
Does anyone know if they caught the Heart bludger who king hit a wanderer's fan? Dog act if you arks me. Probably an off-season Carlton fan
I hope so WP. We don't need that sort of crap in Australian Sport.Does anyone know if they caught the Heart bludger who king hit a wanderer's fan? Dog act if you arks me. Probably an off-season Carlton fan
Not sure they've knocked on his door yet tiga but they (Heart) are saying they know who he is and he will be banned for life. One would also hope the Police come a knocking on the lowlifes door too
who won the granny?
who won the granny?Central Coast won 2-0.
Chanting over the top of the national anthem, breaking seats, throwing flares
Yesssss soccers iz back for sure eh cuz, we iz bigga n sicka than crickets
South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
So if SMFC enter they A-League you'll support it? The very same competition you've ridiculed for the last; what? 5 odd years?
And if they don't?
The ridicule continues right?
for me the first derby between South Melbourne and Melbourne Victory will be the greatest derby in the history of Australian Soccer. The most successful team in Australian Soccer history against the team who took over as the mantle of the Biggest club in Australian Soccer. Its a great derby. What we got now between Victory and Heart is a meaningless farce. No one gives a poo because Victory produces 90% of the crowds.
South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
So if SMFC enter they A-League you'll support it? The very same competition you've ridiculed for the last; what? 5 odd years?
And if they don't?
The ridicule continues right?
South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
So if SMFC enter they A-League you'll support it? The very same competition you've ridiculed for the last; what? 5 odd years?
And if they don't?
The ridicule continues right?
Yes that is correct. SMFC is the most successful club in Australian Soccer History and there introduction would provide your competition with a level of credibility that it has never had.
Should have been done 7-8-9 years ago.Wanderers was a new club started from scratch though; not the rebirth or promotion of one of the old NSL clubs from the mid-table of the local state league. West Sydney represents a geographical area that already had a strong soccer following but that didn't/doesn't connect with the Sydney CBD and hence Sydney FC. It was a no brainer for the FFA to dump Gold Coast and North Queensland and replace them with the Wanderers.
PEople need to get over the wog-hate.
Look at West Sydney. Passion.
Chanting over the top of the national anthem, breaking seats, throwing flares
Yesssss soccers iz back for sure eh cuz, we iz bigga n sicka than crickets
Lol
Passion
AFL could use some
South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
So if SMFC enter they A-League you'll support it? The very same competition you've ridiculed for the last; what? 5 odd years?
And if they don't?
The ridicule continues right?
Yes that is correct. SMFC is the most successful club in Australian Soccer History and there introduction would provide your competition with a level of credibility that it has never had.
Well it looks like you will have to continue with the ridicule and dreaming of the past glories of the SMFC, their offer has been rejected by Melb Heart 9was on the wireless this morning) ;D (no great surprise btw)
South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
So if SMFC enter they A-League you'll support it? The very same competition you've ridiculed for the last; what? 5 odd years?
And if they don't?
The ridicule continues right?
Yes that is correct. SMFC is the most successful club in Australian Soccer History and there introduction would provide your competition with a level of credibility that it has never had.
Well it looks like you will have to continue with the ridicule and dreaming of the past glories of the SMFC, their offer has been rejected by Melb Heart 9was on the wireless this morning) ;D (no great surprise btw)
Rumour has it that they are down almost 10 million and wanted South to pay the debt or take it over. South said no thanks ;D. In the end, it doesnt matter, eventually a club will fall to financial difficulty or b) and the most likely scenario is that the FFA needing cash will contact South and just sell them the license for $3.5 million-$4.0 million. The FFA is full of businessmen, they are not gonna sit by and watch $3.5 million to $4 million just go by the wayside. Odds on they will take the money for the game, South will get in as Melbournes 3rd team and Heart will be even more irrelevant than they are now. South is almost in a no lose position. Cash, a cheap to use stadium, the best junior development program in the country. Its not a matter of if ... its just a matter of when. :clapping ;D
This is the third time South Melbourne have failed to try to get into the A-league. The new TV deal will pay for the each club's total playing list so all 10 A-league clubs will be financially better off next season onwards. The FFA could sell the Wanderers for a tidy sum at the minute if they were in need of cash.South are circling like vultures at the moment. Made bids for the mariners and the heart in the last 6 weeks alone. eventually someone will fall or the FFA will just say to say hand over the license fee which SMFC are happy to pay. Lowy and the FFA now accept SMFC as a viable proposition and I expect SMFC will be back in the national competition sooner rather than later.
So if SMFC enter they A-League you'll support it? The very same competition you've ridiculed for the last; what? 5 odd years?
And if they don't?
The ridicule continues right?
Yes that is correct. SMFC is the most successful club in Australian Soccer History and there introduction would provide your competition with a level of credibility that it has never had.
Well it looks like you will have to continue with the ridicule and dreaming of the past glories of the SMFC, their offer has been rejected by Melb Heart 9was on the wireless this morning) ;D (no great surprise btw)
Rumour has it that they are down almost 10 million and wanted South to pay the debt or take it over. South said no thanks ;D. In the end, it doesnt matter, eventually a club will fall to financial difficulty or b) and the most likely scenario is that the FFA needing cash will contact South and just sell them the license for $3.5 million-$4.0 million. The FFA is full of businessmen, they are not gonna sit by and watch $3.5 million to $4 million just go by the wayside. Odds on they will take the money for the game, South will get in as Melbournes 3rd team and Heart will be even more irrelevant than they are now. South is almost in a no lose position. Cash, a cheap to use stadium, the best junior development program in the country. Its not a matter of if ... its just a matter of when. :clapping ;D
Will be interesting to see what impact the A-League season going longer thereby going head to head with the AFL & NRL will have on their crowds. Huge risk I would think
The divots left in the pitch from a game of rugby make for a good excuse at the lack of skill :shh ;D
just wondering whether 10 years on we have matured enough to let ethnic run/supported clubs back into the national leagueThose bitter European rivarlies have mostly gone now
Werent AFL clubs originally linked with religions ie..catholic,lutheran,protestant etcSome were. Essendon were once associated with being middle-class & protestant whereas Collingwood were working class and catholic.
It's official - Kewell has signed with Melbourne Heart.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-heart-confirms-it-has-signed-socceroo-harry-kewell/story-fndm8psv-1226657835286
It's official - Kewell has signed with Melbourne Heart.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-heart-confirms-it-has-signed-socceroo-harry-kewell/story-fndm8psv-1226657835286
Hes older than young and jacksons pub. Seriously Heart are a dead set rabble. I wonder if Harry knows that they have rubbish bins for Ice Baths for the players. :lol
MELBOURNE Victory is hoping to pull off a stunning coup by signing one of Greece's greatest players, Giorgos Karagounis.
The Australian understands coach Ange Postecoglou was in Athens last week speaking with the most capped player in Greek football with a view to him joining the club for next season's A-League.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/victory-lures-greek-champion-giorgos-karagounis/story-fn63e0vj-1226660817310
Looks like Ramps might have to now support the Victory :laugh:.
Karagounis played for the biggest scum of all panathinaikos, another reasson victory suck ass
:thumbsupKaragounis played for the biggest scum of all panathinaikos, another reasson victory suck ass
Hahaha the only decent team in Greece comes from Piraeus. :thumbsup
:thumbsupKaragounis played for the biggest scum of all panathinaikos, another reasson victory suck ass
Hahaha the only decent team in Greece comes from Piraeus. :thumbsup
Perhaps the biggest signing in the clubs short history.
Perhaps the biggest signing in the clubs short history.
:ROTFL
I missed the part where del Piero signed for mvfc
Geez whiz.
Move over del prior.
Pablo Contreras is a monster :shh
Like watching maldini run around in the blue and white
If we had him for the last main game, would of had Gerrard in his back pocket
Del Piero has the pace of Matthew Primus.
Geez whiz.
Move over del prior.
Pablo Contreras is a monster :shh
Like watching maldini run around in the blue and white
If we had him for the last main game, would of had Gerrard in his back pocket
Maldini was all class Contreras is just a thug Sth American defender. Should hve been sent off for what he did behind the play.
:o :o :o :oMust have checked out some hot bunnies in Perth. :shh
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-23/gallas-heads-for-glory/5040434
a big signing from Juve is Del Piero
Troisi
:ROTFL
a big signing from Juve is Del Piero
Troisi
:ROTFL
:shh
Who scored?Troisi scored a couple of nice ones. :clapping
heard he scored again?Yes the big man delivered. :clapping
victory victory?
Have heard you haven't tried garlic bread until you've tried ADP's:lol :clapping
Yes let's reintroduce clubs based on ethnic identity to the national competition - good idea, won't be divisive, alienating and inflammatory at all. Worked so well in the old league.
Since the Scotsman's departure, much to the excitement of most of the morons that wear the blue and white, the club has been a rabble.
It's time to look to the future of Melbourne as I did and start to acknowledge the Heart.
Sitting nicely at 3 and always making victory look stupid. :clapping
Yes let's reintroduce clubs based on ethnic identity to the national competition - good idea, won't be divisive, alienating and inflammatory at all. Worked so well in the old league.
perth = predominantly english fans (i would argue no less than what south is greek)
adelaide united = adelaide city = primarily followed by people of Italian heritage
north queensland / GC = failed
sheepshaggers = sheepshaggers (ie. clubs based on ethnic identity)
queensland = original operators of the Brisbane Roar can trace their history back to the founding in 1957 of the Hollandia-Inala Soccer Club by Dutch immigrants and was based in the Brisbane suburbs of Richlands. After adopting the name Brisbane Lions in the 1970s, the club competed in the defunct National Soccer League from 1977 until the end of the 1988 season before reverting down to the Brisbane Premier League thereafter. The club changed their name to Queensland Lions after coming to an agreement with the Brisbane Lions AFL club in the 1990s
heart = mostly croats i reckon, could be wrong on this one
victory = heaps of italians but multicultural
west sydney = excellent support due to NSL history
ccm / newcastle = bogans
sydney too. almost forgot them, as they are forgettable. shyte city without a club with ethnic backing. without a dwight yorke or ADP in a rich vein of form next to no fans.
You see, clubs based on ethnic identity to the national competition is not that far away from the realty we currently have masquerading behind the current A-League franchises. The like of South Melbourne are not 100% supported by Greek people. There is several people who are non-Greek and live in the area, or non-Greek general football fans that support South for being a good side in the NSL, making club world cups etc.
Similar Richmond Eagles fans are not all German.
Anyway. Imports clear for the league to prosper there must be 2-3-4 divisions. The question is where do you find these additional dozens of clubs for the following decades/ do we continue to create so less franchise?
Yes let's reintroduce clubs based on ethnic identity to the national competition - good idea, won't be divisive, alienating and inflammatory at all. Worked so well in the old league.
perth = predominantly english fans (i would argue no less than what south is greek)
adelaide united = adelaide city = primarily followed by people of Italian heritage
north queensland / GC = failed
sheepshaggers = sheepshaggers (ie. clubs based on ethnic identity)
queensland = original operators of the Brisbane Roar can trace their history back to the founding in 1957 of the Hollandia-Inala Soccer Club by Dutch immigrants and was based in the Brisbane suburbs of Richlands. After adopting the name Brisbane Lions in the 1970s, the club competed in the defunct National Soccer League from 1977 until the end of the 1988 season before reverting down to the Brisbane Premier League thereafter. The club changed their name to Queensland Lions after coming to an agreement with the Brisbane Lions AFL club in the 1990s
heart = mostly croats i reckon, could be wrong on this one
victory = heaps of italians but multicultural
west sydney = excellent support due to NSL history
ccm / newcastle = bogans
sydney too. almost forgot them, as they are forgettable. shyte city without a club with ethnic backing. without a dwight yorke or ADP in a rich vein of form next to no fans.
You see, clubs based on ethnic identity to the national competition is not that far away from the realty we currently have masquerading behind the current A-League franchises. The like of South Melbourne are not 100% supported by Greek people. There is several people who are non-Greek and live in the area, or non-Greek general football fans that support South for being a good side in the NSL, making club world cups etc.
Similar Richmond Eagles fans are not all German.
Anyway. Imports clear for the league to prosper there must be 2-3-4 divisions. The question is where do you find these additional dozens of clubs for the following decades/ do we continue to create so less franchise?
You're clutching at some straws there. No current A-League team has an onfield ethnic identity. "wogs" were ruining the game and holding it back and the "wogs" who ran the game acknowleged this themselves and with the help of a very rich Jewish businessman established the A-League for that reason. Bringing ethnic badged clubs back in the National League would be a massive step backwards - it would alienate not just anglos but anyone who wasn't Greek, Italian or from The Balkans. Why would anyone else want to go and reenact 1000 year old poo fights and blood fueds that have nothing to do with them or this country? Because that's was used to happen on a regular basis and would again, despite what anglo-hating professional ethnic apologists like Les Murray & co. would have everyone believe. Grew up with Massos & Greeks, saw a lot of it first hand.
...and the Dutch community hardly count- they're not vociferously nationalistic, are a Germanic people like anglo-saxons, don't have any real fierce rivals nor are they significant in number out here like the Southern Europeans are.
Sounds like something lifted straight off Stormfront.
Agree though :clapping I am so Anglo-Saxon that I still carry the name of a Saxon tribe and the family goes back to migrating here from the old West Saxony region. I have no connections or any interest what so ever in the old clubs that belong to one ethnic minority or another. Love the A-League as a national competition and the Victory as they belong to Melbourne.
What's #1 sport kids play Australia bro ?
So Judge, the VPL clubs should sue the wogs who run the A-League & Jewish Frank Lowy for discrimination?
BTW - you do realise that Anglos & Wogs are all White European/Caucasians and not actually two seperate races?
Edit: With the possible exception of Maltese who are believed by some to be at least partially Semitic.
7
What's #1 sport kids play Australia bro ?
Soccer's been the number one kid's sport in Australia for at least 40 years.
Judge seems to think, in typically over-emotional leftist fashion, that the A -League is some kind of "anglo/bogan conspiracy" to ethnically cleanse the sport of Soccer in Australia - despite the fact Soccer in Australia is largely run by "wogs" (as he keeps calling them) and the A-League was in large part established by a Slovakian-born Jew.
This ref is a dead set knob head.Comical minute of play before half time. How Victory were allowed to sub someone on for a guy who'd been red-carded was hilarious. :lol :lol :lol
This ref is a dead set knob head.Comical minute of play before half time. How Victory were allowed to sub someone on for a guy who'd been red-carded was hilarious. :lol :lol :lol
Heart down 0-2 inside 15 mins again. You would reckon that's curtains for Aloisi.What was borderline about it? He was onside. :banghead
As for Victory, another frustrating draw despite dominating general play. Very borderline offside call denied us a goal too.
If Heart were any good they'd have slammed home 5 by half time. Creating amazing chances, dominating play, can't score and up the other end have let Adelaide kick 2 of the softest goals from practically 2 chances. :lol
Who scored?Lost 1-2.
Yeah second goal was all class, first wasn't too shabby either :shhYep both were brilliant goals :thumbsup. About time we put the ball in the net a few times given all the chances created each week.
Harry K wtf? :banghead :bangheadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9U2rwQ28k
Heart are a disasterEqual worst start to a season. Victory can give Heart the record to themselves in the derby ;D.
How long are heart going to stick with JA? If they aren't going to get rid of him now, dont do it in 6 weeks when the gap to finals is 15+ pts. Do it now and turn this ship around, there is enough quality in the squad that they should be challenging for finals this season.Heart weren't too bad in the previous two weeks and looked to be turning it around even though both games ended in draws. At least they were showing some spirit. However today, it was back to playing listless crap and conceding two goals before they wake up. So yep TM, I think Aloisi will either get the sack early this week or definitely after the derby if Heart put in another poor effort. Mind you they seem to lift for the derbies so I'm taking anything for granted. Since Muscat took over from Ange, we're creating a heap of chances every week but don't put them in the back of the net as we should (aside from this weekend thanks to the class of Traore and Finkler).
If Victory come to play they will smash 4-5 past the Heart next week.
We will smash Heart next week if Barbarousas grows a pair and shoots it when I yell at him to. FFS :banghead :banghead
:lol oh you guys. :bow
Bye bye Aloisi.
Had to drive up Punt rd > Swan st just before the game, disgusting game disgusting supporters. Newsflash this is austraya....
Had to drive up Punt rd > Swan st just before the game, disgusting game disgusting supporters. Newsflash this is austraya....
More about the way they conduct themselves, but whatever ...derpsHad to drive up Punt rd > Swan st just before the game, disgusting game disgusting supporters. Newsflash this is austraya....
Thats a pretty appalling perspective. Was the newsflash from OneNation radio?
There are a small number of teenage idiots who are wannabee 'ultras' (http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/soccer-fans-set-off-flares-on-way-to-melbourne-victory-v-melbourne-heart-derby-in-richmond/story-fnii5sms-1226788128842) (most aren't really supporters/members either and only turn up to big games like a derby to be attention seekers and hanger on-ers in the northern terrace (north end cheer squads)); however, to label the whole sport and its supporters as disgusting is ridiculous. The wings where the families sit and southern end cheer squad are tamer and quieter than at the footy. I'm sure CUB, like me, you didn't take kindly to the media here labeling all Richmond supporters as spitters because of a few morons hanging over the race entrance. Every sport has its few morons.More about the way they conduct themselves, but whatever ...derpsHad to drive up Punt rd > Swan st just before the game, disgusting game disgusting supporters. Newsflash this is austraya....
Thats a pretty appalling perspective. Was the newsflash from OneNation radio?
here are a small number of teenage idiots who are wannabee 'ultras'
(most aren't really supporters/members either
and only turn up to big games like a derby to be attention seekers and hanger on-ers in the northern terrace (north end cheer squads));
sure there would be "normal" people that go.
But a minority wouldnt require all the police that I saw, I dont go to soccer and it was like something you see on telly from the deros OS. Setting off a flare on Swan st also didnt help my view considering it made me late.
I find it un-australian and thats just my opinion of course.
I dont like gutless wimps on the net and I dont like gutless wimps that are full of FALSE Bravado in a mob ...
Thatl do Ill stick to the mans footy from here
Always the voice of reason MT, sure there would be "normal" people that go.False bravado from a small minority occurs at the footy as well especially at Collingwood games.
But a minority wouldnt require all the police that I saw, I dont go to soccer and it was like something you see on telly from the deros OS. Setting off a flare on Swan st also didnt help my view considering it made me late.
I find it un-australian and thats just my opinion of course.
I dont like gutless wimps on the net and I dont like gutless wimps that are full of FALSE Bravado in a mob ...
Thatl do Ill stick to the mans footy from here
I'm not talking about regulars who are members Bents and who spend the whole game singing, chanting and holding up tifos. They spend too much money on a season ticket to risk being thrown out by getting into fights or ripping off flares. I mean wannabee ultras as in a few little teenage idiots who think Soccer is what they saw in Greet Street Hooligans. They turn up to a game and act like tools thinking they are more important than the game itself. That's why they attract security and police attention.Quotehere are a small number of teenage idiots who are wannabee 'ultras'
If you go into the North Terrace I think you will find many people are grown men. In regards to "wannabee", I don't know what your definition of ultras is. Yes, they many not be as fanatically as ultras of Napoli that stab opposition fans, or South America where the football and politics are strongly intertwined. However, These people sing for 90 mins + every game. They pay thousands to fly across Asia to support the club over thousands of kilometers. They enhance the football MVFC plays by actively supporting them. They go to the same pubs as the players and celebrate victory with them after grand finals. They have close ties to the club and the players and the player appreciate it as can be seen by the way the celebrate goals with the fans or attend fan functions. They also fight opposition 'wannabee 'ultras'. No doubt there is an element of bandwagoners as there is with every sport / club but the core of NT fans are fair dinkum. Many of them have South American or European background with football and were closely tied to Colo Colo or Austrian clubs (for example) before moving to Melbourne.
The FFA has hired anti terrorist squad (HATAMOTO - fsticks) to video tap these people so to me it doesn't sound that "wannabee". The sheer number of riot police at MVFC-sydney/adeliade games is another indication that is reasonable serious.I have Scottish and Italian heritage Bents. I can tell you these little twerps are wannabees. They think mouthing off and lighting a flare makes them like overseas ultras.
I have seen young players inspired by the traveling MVFC fans are lift, 'grow another leg' another gear to to passionate and unwavering support. Something that is excellent. Hopefully something that is replicated at Punt Road oval.We already do. Ask any Richmond player.
Police dont understand anything about soccer. They are more or less anglo-saxon bogans who have fall understanding of 'real' association football supporters. ten people signing a song in unison scares they crap out of them because of underlying racist elements in the police force and a non-understanding of soccer culture.Soccer was started by "angle-saxon bogans" :facepalm.
IMO, flares add color and atmosphere to the world. They are also good for throwing at people.I hope that's sarcasm. It only takes one idiot and/or one accident for the proverbial to hit the fan (excuse the pun).
They are happy to fight (in some cases) police or other fans. IMO this means they are not gutless but in fact passionate.Only morons fight with police at sporting events. Unfair to label those that travel interstate to away games as the ones that do this btw.
Isn't it great that the big heads at Melbourne victory are so silent now that they are resting nicely on the bottom of the ladder.
Those same carlscum like arrogance hasn't bode well for a team headed by Ernie Merrick that was both exciting competative and successful. Since the Scotsman's departure, much to the excitement of most of the morons that wear the blue and white, the club has been a rabble.
It's time to look to the future of Melbourne as I did and start to acknowledge the Heart.
For starters maybe even putting them in the title of this thread.
Sitting nicely at 3 and always making victory look stupid. :clapping
Heart's best chance to break their winless streak tonight against fellow cellar-dweller Wellington at AAMI. If they lose this one then it surely must be bye bye time for Aloisi.
With a decent coach heart would be playing finals this season, good enough roster imo. Confidence shot = missed chances - lack of discipline which cost goals week in week out points to a weak coach. Wasted season. hopefully a new consortium have bought them and they can clean house. DisgracefulAs a Victory fan, I think they are where they should be. :cheers ;D
Big rumour today that the heart have been soldHeart are denying it but clearly it's only a matter of time before it's announced officially.
See Covic smash his face into the post diving for it lol.Yep Ouch! lol
There are a small number of teenage idiots who are wannabee 'ultras' (most aren't really supporters/members either and only turn up to big games like a derby to be attention seekers and hanger on-ers in the northern terrace (north end cheer squads)); however, to label the whole sport and its supporters as disgusting is ridiculous. The wings where the families sit and southern end cheer squad are tamer and quieter than at the footy. I'm sure CUB, like me, you didn't take kindly to the media here labeling all Richmond supporters as spitters because of a few morons hanging over the race entrance. Every sport has its few morons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp0uef6wd9w#t=25I would argue yesterday's antics backed up what I was saying. A small minority of young males trying to be wannabee ultras fighting in the streets ::) and at the ground ripping off flares and detonators and giving the sport a bad name. It was a great game last night on the pitch but all the focus is on the moronic antics of these little twerps.
'wannabees"
now, bring Melbourne Croatia into the league and get some fireworks :cheersQuoteThere are a small number of teenage idiots who are wannabee 'ultras' (most aren't really supporters/members either and only turn up to big games like a derby to be attention seekers and hanger on-ers in the northern terrace (north end cheer squads)); however, to label the whole sport and its supporters as disgusting is ridiculous. The wings where the families sit and southern end cheer squad are tamer and quieter than at the footy. I'm sure CUB, like me, you didn't take kindly to the media here labeling all Richmond supporters as spitters because of a few morons hanging over the race entrance. Every sport has its few morons.
Not real supporters and yet the came down from the shyehole part of NSW to watch a soccer team they support? sounds like real fans to me :shh
As for tonight's game - what a disgraceful display of refereeing :banghead. Seriously that ref should never be allowed near the professional level ever again. I didn't realise stopping the ball with your hands in the box was allowed in Soccer now ::). Not just once but twice! :banghead
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BckHyuXCUAApTsh.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BckOCPfCIAAVIHn.jpg)
:banghead
Thank gawd for Finkler saving our bacon and at least giving us a point with that amazing free kick right at the end :bow :thumbsup.
With a decent coach heart would be playing finals this season, good enough roster imo. Confidence shot = missed chances - lack of discipline which cost goals week in week out points to a weak coach. Wasted season. hopefully a new consortium have bought them and they can clean house. DisgracefulAs a Victory fan, I think they are where they should be. :cheers ;D
:lol :clappingWith a decent coach heart would be playing finals this season, good enough roster imo. Confidence shot = missed chances - lack of discipline which cost goals week in week out points to a weak coach. Wasted season. hopefully a new consortium have bought them and they can clean house. DisgracefulAs a Victory fan, I think they are where they should be. :cheers ;D
If it means that's what it took to get rid of Aloisi, then I agree :cheers
Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.'
Police to release plan for combating racism in its ranks, in response to racial profiling case
Updated 26 minutes ago
RELATED STORY: Secret police operation 'targeted' African-AustraliansRELATED STORY: Victoria Police settles racial profiling caseRELATED STORY: Police 'zealots' accused of racial profiling
MAP: Flemington 3031
Victoria Police will release a response paper today outlining how it intends to combat racism within its ranks.
Almost a year ago, police settled out-of-court in a case where they had been accused of racially profiling, harassing and bashing a group of almost 20 African-Australian boys in Melbourne's inner north.
ABC News subsequently uncovered a police operational document proving the racial profiling had taken place.
Later today police will release a report which has resulted from an internal investigation into the matter.
It is believed to be called "Equality is not the same".
The Federal Court ordered the internal investigation into police racism as part of the settlement.
Some victims of the abuse and their lawyers will be briefed about the document just before it is made public
Yeah Leijer was lucky (he was sliding in feet first to block the shot so that's why his arms were away from his body) but that's hardly a defence of the referee anyway.As for tonight's game - what a disgraceful display of refereeing :banghead. Seriously that ref should never be allowed near the professional level ever again. I didn't realise stopping the ball with your hands in the box was allowed in Soccer now ::). Not just once but twice! :banghead
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BckHyuXCUAApTsh.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BckOCPfCIAAVIHn.jpg)
:banghead
Thank gawd for Finkler saving our bacon and at least giving us a point with that amazing free kick right at the end :bow :thumbsup.
I wouldn't have paid either. Funny you left out the most blatant handball of all - leijer's which stopped a certain goal with his arm flailing well clear of his body. :whistle The other 2 examples - the first was a nothing and the second was off the knee/thigh.
Cyclops :whistle
How would they evolve from wanna bees to not wannabees in your eyes?When they stop carrying on like moronic wannabee ultras as fans of a club that's been around just 18 months and that has no history to warrant that agro stupidity. It's just 'look-at-me-I'm-ultra' morons trying to imitate the worst of what they see in Europe and putting themselves above the game and the majority of the game's supporters in Australia.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/12/29/1226791/518722-8a2c93d4-6fb9-11e3-af23-8bbd4004b6c0.jpg)
Would you go up to milwal fans and tell them they are idiotic children wannabees
(http://i.imgur.com/JOCX7.gif)
lets just blame those efniks ;DAgreed :clapping :lol
MtIf these morons continue to cause trouble then I can see the FFA bringing in an away club members entry only rule for certain clubs (such as WSW). No valid membership ID card then you can't go to away games.
How are going to ban away fans dressed as causal s?
The are generally fighting like minded people. Not women and children sitting on a wing.True but let's see now, with the suspended 3 point deduction hanging over each club's head, how much they care about the clubs and the game as a whole. If the selfish morons don't stop trying to be wannabee ultras then it'll prove they don't give a stuff about either.
IMO what percentage of violence in Australian is soccer related. O.1? Less? Overrated media bollocks. Makes a good story in the healed sun.True it's a small minority (of mostly young males) but blaming this as a media beat-up is ridiculous. What happened last week was a disgrace and the FFA has acted accordingly to try and stamp it out.
Is not as black and white as you are a moron that fights or a good person who sings and jumpsThe morons are the ones acting as morons but it doesn't help when the 'active support' leaders aren't willing to help the club nor authorities instil reasonable measures to remove/bar the troublemakers from entering the 'active' area. When the 'active' support' leaders demand things only their way, with the 'active' area left open to anonymous GA for everybody and anybody to enter it, then it makes it difficult to identify and ban the few real culprits amongst the majority of real fans in that fluid group supporting environment. 'Active support' areas should be home club member only with guest passes on offer to friends/family of members. No home club membership or 'active support' guest pass (you have to enter with the home club member) then stadium security doesn't let you into the 'active' area. At the end of the day, it is the clubs and stadium operators that are ultimately liable for anything that happens (as Victory and WSW have found out), so they need to be able to make the rules to protect their interests.
In life and football its shared of very. If a cop pepper sprays you for little or no reason or you bare charged by a opposite fan, your most average person by move into what to claim is the moronic group.
On a side not isn't it funny that the wogs teams are but allowed to be promoted to modern a league soccer due to bring syuoid violent wogs. Wouldn't want fighting in the a league...The morons came from multiple backgrounds by the look of it. One of the WSW goons, who posted a selfie of himself on facebook with a Wanderers scarf covering his face (which was spotted by the media), turns out to be a Pom who supports Grimsby Town back home in England. He posted another selfie of himself at the MCG wearing a Wanderers shirt while holding up an English flag at the 4th test. Geez I wonder why this goon thought rioting by Wanderers fans was okay ::).
Perhaps the FFA should ban wogs a league fan 50% Australian requirement
I think when Victory went off at half time the Heart came out for the second.That's what it felt like :P. Muscat's 'tactical' subs in the second half were weird also :huh3 while Leijer had another brainfade to get himself sent off again.
with a touch one touch all mentality
Dugandzic can get stuffed. So can Mifsud and that fairy KewellGoing the early call here but I was right, it wasn't Aloisi's fault. :shh
Dugandzic can get stuffed. So can Mifsud and that fairy KewellGoing the early call here but I was right, it wasn't Aloisi's fault. :shh
New anti Wong police techniquesThat is actually quite funny :lol.
http://m.imgur.com/ZYy2QNU
:lol was only taking the urine. Much better result the week before against CCM. :clappingDugandzic can get stuffed. So can Mifsud and that fairy KewellGoing the early call here but I was right, it wasn't Aloisi's fault. :shh
Nah JA was hopeless tigs - nothing personal against the bloke but he had nfi. Last 2 weeks weve put together more passes in a half than we averaged per game under JA. Playing a much better brand of football already. 3-0 was a flattering scoreline for perth. At 1-0 Dugandzic had the best chance of the game, missed it of course the useless prick, then we got a player sent off and copped 2 cheapies just to rub it in. Oh and kewell was subbed off bc he got a gash on the shin and couldn't run it out the girl.
:lol was only taking the urine. Much better result the week before against CCM. :clappingDugandzic can get stuffed. So can Mifsud and that fairy KewellGoing the early call here but I was right, it wasn't Aloisi's fault. :shh
Nah JA was hopeless tigs - nothing personal against the bloke but he had nfi. Last 2 weeks weve put together more passes in a half than we averaged per game under JA. Playing a much better brand of football already. 3-0 was a flattering scoreline for perth. At 1-0 Dugandzic had the best chance of the game, missed it of course the useless prick, then we got a player sent off and copped 2 cheapies just to rub it in. Oh and kewell was subbed off bc he got a gash on the shin and couldn't run it out the girl.
:lol Aloisi was a joke. The team is pretty ordinary but pretty sure that's his fault anyway. :shh:lol was only taking the urine. Much better result the week before against CCM. :clappingDugandzic can get stuffed. So can Mifsud and that fairy KewellGoing the early call here but I was right, it wasn't Aloisi's fault. :shh
Nah JA was hopeless tigs - nothing personal against the bloke but he had nfi. Last 2 weeks weve put together more passes in a half than we averaged per game under JA. Playing a much better brand of football already. 3-0 was a flattering scoreline for perth. At 1-0 Dugandzic had the best chance of the game, missed it of course the useless prick, then we got a player sent off and copped 2 cheapies just to rub it in. Oh and kewell was subbed off bc he got a gash on the shin and couldn't run it out the girl.
reeled me in :fishing
Great to get the result with so many kids. Was traore playing center back? - what a monster. Finkler is a dam classy mother flipper.I hate Nichols. Traore has played CB two games straight. Been brilliant. Makes blokes look like complete spuds on a weekly basis. :clapping
I get so much more enjoyment from the team without the uber-twats in it Milligan/nicholas
Where can I see the MVC ACL fixture?
and keeps alive chance of top 2. VGood performance from victory. Loved Troisi's run when he just burned past the defender with raw pace, pity he didn't bury it. So spewin that Traore cant play for the soccerroosTroisi should have passed that. Makarounas would have been able to walk the ball to the line, but Troisi hasn't got anything but shoot on his mind. :lol I actually didn't realise he was that quick.
and keeps alive chance of top 2. VGood performance from victory. Loved Troisi's run when he just burned past the defender with raw pace, pity he didn't bury it. So spewin that Traore cant play for the soccerroosTroisi should have passed that. Makarounas would have been able to walk the ball to the line, but Troisi hasn't got anything but shoot on his mind. :lol I actually didn't realise he was that quick.
Traore will end up overseas very soon you would think. Surprised no one has come looking for him.
One of the best Australian footballers.Rogic to Victory in the next 2 weeks. :whistle :clapping
Aust. Quite thin on talented players
Only players ahead of him off the too of my head in an attacking sense rogic. Cahill. Geez. Kruse. Oar.
Its not nice to get someone hopes upJust reporting the news man. Big Rogic in the Big V. :clapping
It'd be very nice to get an option to buy him outrightNo chance. He wants to stay in Europe and so he should. Would take him for the season though. Would be a massive upgrade on that sook Nicholls.
Its not nice to get someone hopes upJust reporting the news man. Big Rogic in the Big V. :clapping
1. CoeTbh I reckon Geria, Mahazi and Jeggo are all poohouse.
2. Geria / Galloway
3. Leijer / Ansel
4. Pablo Contreras
5. Traore / Dylan Murnane
6. Rashid Mahazi
7. Finkler
8. Jeggo
9. Archie
10. Rogic
11. Troisi
(http://iran.worldcupblog.org/files/2010/02/P_AFCCL_Trophy.jpg)
Jeggonis not poohouse :bangheadMilligan is pretty average too. I think Jeggo will be fine. I just think he's ordinary at this point in time. Mooy is a scrub as well. :shh
He bossed mooy. And co.
Not worse than Milligan all sweat and no finish product. Or Nicholas the soft thing
rOGIC :cheersYesssss big man. Alllll aboard. :clapping :clapping
Ill pay to go watch victory games to see him in action :cheers
Melbourne Victory can today confirm it will play its upcoming AFC Champions League qualifying match at Kardinia Park in Geelong on Saturday, February 15 at 7:45pm.
Melbourne Victory will play one of Muangthong United (Thailand), Pune FC (India), Hanoi T&T (Vietnam), Tampines Rovers (Singapore) or South China (Hong Kong) who will battle it out in early February for the right to make the trip to Geelong.
And this passion cannot be extinguished by draconian measures like banning drums and signs and ejecting the odd fan who splutters a profane four-letter word. The passion will always remain.
In a radio interview after the Melbourne pub incident I was asked if football’s active fans realise that their activities are keeping other fans away from football games. But in fact the opposite is true. The active fans actually attract other fans rather than repel them because it is they who provide football’s unique match experience.
Go to any Wanderers’ match at Parramatta and observe what happens in the 80th minute when the Red and Black Bloc (RBB) does the "Poznan". Observe how the fans around the rest of the arena all stand and turn their backs on the pitch, copying the RBB. And that includes small children and little old ladies. These fans, these otherwise non-active fans, come to the games not just to see the Wanderers play but more to be part of the football match experience.
The propagators of the culture war and its aggressors are those who are hostile to football, not those who love it. You will notice that in their language and their references to the "soccer mob" or the "soccer acolytes", as though we were all a marginal subculture, like some racially unique tribe, and not like the rest of Australian society. But I have news for them. We are just like other Australians. We too love to see the Aussies beat the pants off the English in cricket or the Wallabies do the same to the All Blacks.
The sinister forces conspiring to halt football’s growth and appeal, especially in the media, are real, whether it is evidenced by primitive commentary in opinion columns, Channel Seven executives admitting in court that the NSL rights were bought only to keep the game off screen or Channel Ten chiefs of staff allegedly instructing their colleagues to go look for evidence of crowd trouble at A-League games.
Bwb has said on twitter its a done deal & announced next week [Rogic]
Yessssss big man. You heard it here first. :clapping :clappingOne of the best Australian footballers.Rogic to Victory in the next 2 weeks. :whistle :clapping
Aust. Quite thin on talented players
Only players ahead of him off the too of my head in an attacking sense rogic. Cahill. Geez. Kruse. Oar.
The most unpredictable side in the A-League is Wellington :P.Victory the most predictable. :shh
Marquee players outside salary capHaven't they already got marquee's?
Bring back Ange! :(The most unpredictable side in the A-League is Wellington :P.Victory the most predictable. :shh
hopefully sacked after not getting out of the group stages. :lolBring back Ange! :(The most unpredictable side in the A-League is Wellington :P.Victory the most predictable. :shh
Roguc..... :bowTold ya Rogic was coming. :clapping
http://m.footballaustralia.com.au/melbourne-victory-news-display/Tom-Rogic-lands-at-Melbourne-Victory/83692/11
Nicholas and Milligan out http://m.footballaustralia.com.au/melbourne-victory-news-display/Victory-confirms-Milligan-interest/83705/11 :clapping
Where did the "soccer should be banned thread" go?
Word: MELBOURNE CITY FOOTBALL CLUB
Image:
Lodgement Date: 16-JAN-2014
Class/es: 9, 18, 25, 28, 41
Status: Indexing Approved
Kind: n/a
Type of Mark: Word
Owner/s: MHFC Holdings Pty Limited
L26
IBM Centre
60 City Rd
SOUTHBANK VIC 3006
AUSTRALIA
http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/falcon_details.show_tm_details?p_tm_number=1601282&p_search_no=1&p_ExtDisp=D&p_detail=DETAILED&p_rec_no=46&p_rec_all=46
Domain Name melbournecityfc.com.au
Last Modified 10-Jul-2013 04:40:47 UTC
Registrar ID NetRegistry
Registrar Name NetRegistry
Status ok
Registrant HOLDING M.S. AUSTRALIA PTY. LTD.
Eligibility Type Company
Eligibility ID ABN 36162861341
Registrant Contact ID SMDA1357
Registrant Contact Name Danielle Smith
Registrant Contact Email dsmith@melbournestorm.com.au
http://whois.ausregistry.com.au/whois/whois_local.jsp;jsessionid=863195E8CABB0B4E997453EA4B944E42?tab=0&t=1390435210234
It's a similar set-up to Man City's New York soccer club (80% owned by Man City and 20% owned and run locally by the Yankees). Interesting to see if the Man City owners also eventually change Heart's colours to their sky blue. New York City FC will have Man City's colours.
Where did the "soccer should be banned thread" go?
A significant part if the league now owned by Trillion-aries
Oil rich Arab nation state
Makes afl TV rights money look likepish
A league not going away next 50 years minimum
It doesn't really matter in Soccer as it's quite common for clubs around the world in the same comp. to share the same colours. In the EPL, West Ham and Aston Villa are both claret and blue.It's a similar set-up to Man City's New York soccer club (80% owned by Man City and 20% owned and run locally by the Yankees). Interesting to see if the Man City owners also eventually change Heart's colours to their sky blue. New York City FC will have Man City's colours.
Wouldn't changing the Heart's colours to Man City's colours clash with SydneyFC?
muscat cant coach dont know why victory persist. its a joke. if they want a coach they should employ someone like Mickey Petersen whose stint in coaching showed he knows how to get his teams to play decent football. as for the heart they are worst club ever to come from melbourne to play in any competition. worse than Mooroolbark, worse than Green Gully, worse than Sunshine George Cross, worse than Footscray JUST, worse than Preston Skopje and worse than Heidelberg United. They are a blight on the game in this country.
How come at the footy I get in trouble for yelling d*head but at the guidoball I can get called a c*? Where did the oppressive bogan anti-wog police go?i called del piero a idiot then Coe gifts him a goal. :banghead :banghead
Whatever to keep the sydney cheersquad out of cronulla on Australia day I guess. ;D
wth is going on with MV? back to back 5-0 losses don't happen to quality clubs without there being something askew internally.Muscat has NFI. We have some nice attacking players in Thompson, Troisi, Finkler and to a lesser extent Kosta. Plus now Rogic and Pain as depth. But outside Traore the defence is poo and we don't even have a midfield. Coe is also a bit of a spud and it doesn't help him that the backs are absolute trash.
How come at the footy I get in trouble for yelling d*head but at the guidoball I can get called a c*? Where did the oppressive bogan anti-wog police go?i called del piero a idiot then Coe gifts him a goal. :banghead :banghead
Whatever to keep the sydney cheersquad out of cronulla on Australia day I guess. ;D
Can't remember the last time we had the same back 4, 2 weeks in a row.How come at the footy I get in trouble for yelling d*head but at the guidoball I can get called a c*? Where did the oppressive bogan anti-wog police go?i called del piero a idiot then Coe gifts him a goal. :banghead :banghead
Whatever to keep the sydney cheersquad out of cronulla on Australia day I guess. ;D
I don't know how many times I looked down to see Del Piero on his own. Even when flapping his arms about no one even thought to try at least guard his space.
No Traore, Milligan and later Leijer from the back 4 certainly didn't help. Not all of them are everyone's favourite players but 3 of the first string starting back 4 out is going to hurt. Same with Nichols. There was no run and it was surprising that Pain didn't come on to try and generate something. Still none of that explains the sheer lack of effort. They actually looked completely uninterested in being out there. At least the real footy is almost back :clapping
Contreras will be gone next year so all the more reason to beef up the defense. Leijer often duds it up but all those cards are because he's been the only one trying back there. His face is also better at keeping than Coe :lol Have to keep him even as just a squaddie but definitely has to be upgraded. Read the paper yesterday? Lots coming back to aus. Would be good to get Celeski back.Yeah Contreras is done so we may as well play Ansell/Leijer instead. Leijer isn't much worse than Contreras anyway.
AyrIn other words as soon as Ange left. :lol
The Ange 4222 looks pretty god dam awful when its not clicking
UnCoe:lol Bit harsh. Was an amazing strike. Nabbout's was also amazing for a different reason. :lol
Yeah it was :lol but remember his butter fingers on the next play? :rollin then resulted in a goal kick which went straight out of bounds. The Coe special.:lol Coe is always good for a heart in your mouth special every week. :clapping :clapping
That baby singlet was creepy.
Melbourne Victory crowds will face the toughest crackdown on spectator behaviour seen in Australian sport for the rest of the A-League season following intervention by the code's governing body to be announced on Sunday.
The changes aimed at rogue fans will see supporter groups subjected to ID checks and bag searches and comes after a banned hooligan tried to enter Etihad Stadium with three flares strapped to his chest.
The crackdown follows repeated trouble last Sunday before the clash with Sydney, when fans marched through the city streets letting off flares.
Football Federation Australia said Victory supporters face restricted access to "active'' areas behind goals until season's end in a bid to eliminate the minority element of trouble makers.
In targeted areas, Victory fans will be forced to show identification to get to their seats and will be banned from entering active areas where fans sing and chant unless they are registered club members.
Additional measures to ensure crowd safety, such as increased bag checks, are also expected to be introduced.
A-League head Damien de Bohun said tackling trouble-making fans was necessary to protect sensible supporters and the image of the sport.
"The trial is squarely aimed at preventing troublemakers using the active areas to engage in anti-social behaviour that affects the enjoyment of others and damages the reputation of the club and game,'' he said.
The changes mean Victory and Wanderers supporters will need membership cards to enter the active zones, can buy only one ticket to the area and cannot exchange their seat with another fan.
Similar measures were trialled for a "high-risk'' match between Victory and Wanderers in Melbourne last month.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/crowd-restrictions-target-rogue-elements-in-melbourne-victory-supporter-group/story-fnk9a3dc-1226815761687
Football Federation Australia has brought in new measures to tighten security for "active supporters" of Western Sydney Wanderers and Melbourne Victory.
Under the new rules, designed to more rigorously police the zones within the ground where the clubs' most zealous fans gather, only club members will be entitled to purchase tickets into active-supporter areas.
"Each member will be entitled to purchase one ticket for their own use. The measures will apply to home-and-away matches," the FFA said in a statement on Saturday.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/new-rules-target-fan-hooliganism-20140201-31ubf.html
Melbourne Victory crowds will face the toughest crackdown on spectator behaviour seen in Australian sport for the rest of the A-League season following intervention by the code's governing body to be announced on Sunday.
The changes aimed at rogue fans will see supporter groups subjected to ID checks and bag searches and comes after a banned hooligan tried to enter Etihad Stadium with three flares strapped to his chest.
The crackdown follows repeated trouble last Sunday before the clash with Sydney, when fans marched through the city streets letting off flares.
Football Federation Australia said Victory supporters face restricted access to "active'' areas behind goals until season's end in a bid to eliminate the minority element of trouble makers.
In targeted areas, Victory fans will be forced to show identification to get to their seats and will be banned from entering active areas where fans sing and chant unless they are registered club members.
Additional measures to ensure crowd safety, such as increased bag checks, are also expected to be introduced.
A-League head Damien de Bohun said tackling trouble-making fans was necessary to protect sensible supporters and the image of the sport.
"The trial is squarely aimed at preventing troublemakers using the active areas to engage in anti-social behaviour that affects the enjoyment of others and damages the reputation of the club and game,'' he said.
The changes mean Victory and Wanderers supporters will need membership cards to enter the active zones, can buy only one ticket to the area and cannot exchange their seat with another fan.
Similar measures were trialled for a "high-risk'' match between Victory and Wanderers in Melbourne last month.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/crowd-restrictions-target-rogue-elements-in-melbourne-victory-supporter-group/story-fnk9a3dc-1226815761687
Football Federation Australia has brought in new measures to tighten security for "active supporters" of Western Sydney Wanderers and Melbourne Victory.
Under the new rules, designed to more rigorously police the zones within the ground where the clubs' most zealous fans gather, only club members will be entitled to purchase tickets into active-supporter areas.
"Each member will be entitled to purchase one ticket for their own use. The measures will apply to home-and-away matches," the FFA said in a statement on Saturday.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/new-rules-target-fan-hooliganism-20140201-31ubf.html
Just because I live in Sydney, have a full length mirror next to my bidet and a farm in Africa, does not make me an up myself wanker. I once went into a convenience store to buy tonic water so that proves I'm a salt of the earth type. I also gave your mum charity.:lol :clapping
to remove australian sporting fans from a game of sport due to making a banner saying the want the coach out is rubbishThe club has issued an apology.
Its not the first day incident of violation of rights of members of the clubs of yhis league
Sydney FC fans don't turn up full stopi wish I hadn't missed the edit. Sydney FC fans travel to the west to watch games though. It's quite weird especially with 2014 petrol prices.
bunch of tight ass eastern suburb ....
Sydney FC fans don't turn up full stopi wish I hadn't missed the edit.
bunch of tight ass eastern suburb ....
Jewelers...
1-0 41min
Goal directly from a corner ffs. As in no one else touched it
Rich Thailand side lots of white players
Nice comeback from the Victory to win 2-1 and qualify for the ACL. We will be in Group G with Guangzhou, Yokohama and Korean side Jeonbuk.
Go Melb HeartThis could be the end of a beautiful friendship :rollin.
Go Melb HeartThis could be the end of a beautiful friendship :rollin.
He is given the cattle he has. Having said that the Heart will fall short once again ;D.Go Melb HeartThis could be the end of a beautiful friendship :rollin.
:lol :lol
Don't follow the A-League but you have to be impressed with what's happened there since they sacked that other dud who was obviously clueless ;D
Just reckon van't Schip is a good coach
He is given the cattle he has. Having said that the Heart will fall short once again ;D.
Not a good coach, a great coach :clapping Just wish they had of acted on JA earlier.Go Melb HeartThis could be the end of a beautiful friendship :rollin.
:lol :lol
Don't follow the A-League but you have to be impressed with what's happened there since they sacked that other dud who was obviously clueless ;D
Just reckon van't Schip is a good coach
tony has let a couple of wins get to his head. You'd think as a RFC fan you'd learn. :whistle
:lol :clappingtony has let a couple of wins get to his head. You'd think as a RFC fan you'd learn. :whistle
pfft its only been a few years of crap, got a decade or 2 more of false hope before the penny starts to drop
9 teams from NSW?The number of state league clubs in the FFA Cup was based on the number of registered Soccer players per state federation. NSW almost makes up half.
Soccer proving to be the second biggest sport to the bum sniffing crowd
We're taking care of the biggest side in Asia while your boys are by themselves on a lonely Wed night. :whistleNot a good coach, a great coach :clapping Just wish they had of acted on JA earlier.Go Melb HeartThis could be the end of a beautiful friendship :rollin.
:lol :lol
Don't follow the A-League but you have to be impressed with what's happened there since they sacked that other dud who was obviously clueless ;D
Just reckon van't Schip is a good coach
Will play finals :thumbsup and will thump victory this week :cheers
nice edit :lol :clapping;D :shh
yep, going with the lovely wife and a couple of mates from work - no hooliganism from me tonight :angel:Yeah, going with the missus. We haven't been since the Sydney 0-5 game. :whistle
yourself?
Hopefully someone reminds Coe he's allowed to use his hands tonight.I will :lol :lol
Yeah morwell city are up and about ;D:lol so true. I'm just numb to beltings now. ;D
I've followed Richmond long enough, I can sit through another hiding :lol
:lol:lol I can't care less once I walk out the stadium.
Oh well. Pee poor effort. No one will care about round ball after next week so they can lap it up ;D
A couple bad ones there. That red was a rot. I'm in that corner too, 8 rows from the fence so I made sure I gave the ref a spray ;Di was north end in the corner on the sideline with the benches.
Cant believe there are some trying to justify the decision, was listening to sen on the way home and muscat spoke to the ref after the game and basically gave his reasoning for it, tugged the jumper. One of the hosts said it was 50/50. That was a ridiculous decision, ref got it wrong. Wouldn't have made a difference though imo, heart were in control.i actually thought it was a red. He tackled him.
and agree, in 2 weeks the aleague will take a backseat to the real stuff
A couple bad ones there. That red was a rot. I'm in that corner too, 8 rows from the fence so I made sure I gave the ref a spray ;Di was north end in the corner on the sideline with the benches.
Cant believe there are some trying to justify the decision, was listening to sen on the way home and muscat spoke to the ref after the game and basically gave his reasoning for it, tugged the jumper. One of the hosts said it was 50/50. That was a ridiculous decision, ref got it wrong. Wouldn't have made a difference though imo, heart were in control.i actually thought it was a red. He tackled him.
and agree, in 2 weeks the aleague will take a backseat to the real stuff
im only going off what I saw live. My eyes can't handle the big screen replays and I ain't sitting through the IQ of that poo to check. :lolCant believe there are some trying to justify the decision, was listening to sen on the way home and muscat spoke to the ref after the game and basically gave his reasoning for it, tugged the jumper. One of the hosts said it was 50/50. That was a ridiculous decision, ref got it wrong. Wouldn't have made a difference though imo, heart were in control.i actually thought it was a red. He tackled him.
and agree, in 2 weeks the aleague will take a backseat to the real stuff
really? wow ok, just watched it again and yeah he tugged the shirt a bit but there was no other contact, if anything ansell could have received a free for headhigh boot. Anyhow stiff poo, 4-0 :cheers
:lol fair enough too ;D20mins in I was trying to work out whether the App on my phone could delete IQ recordings. :banghead :banghead
A week is a long time ;D.
Good to get the three points on Friday night as Victory clearly dominated the game especially after going 1-0 up. It makes a difference when you have a week to prepare and recover before your next game. We still shouldn't have conceded that goal however. Defensive mids pressed up too high allowing space behind them which lead to the free by the byline and then Thomas punched open air leaving an open net. Interesting to see if Muscat persists with Thomas or goes back to Coe in goal for the finals.
we don't play 10th till this week. Not sure who else u could be referring to. :shhA week is a long time ;D.
Good to get the three points on Friday night as Victory clearly dominated the game especially after going 1-0 up. It makes a difference when you have a week to prepare and recover before your next game. We still shouldn't have conceded that goal however. Defensive mids pressed up too high allowing space behind them which lead to the free by the byline and then Thomas punched open air leaving an open net. Interesting to see if Muscat persists with Thomas or goes back to Coe in goal for the finals.
Makes a difference when youre playing weaker opposition too :thumbsup
Men's Soccer, the Racist game for Sissys™
that's the problem the FFA have, they can't ban racists and hooligans because then no-one will turn up lmao
Men's Soccer, the Racist game for Sissys™
that's the problem the FFA have, they can't ban racists and hooligans because then no-one will turn up lmao
The FFA ban clubs from top division just cause they are wog
The definition of racism :whistle
:bow ;D:lol couldn't resist. ;D
Men's Soccer, the Racist game for Sissys™
that's the problem the FFA have, they can't ban racists and hooligans because then no-one will turn up lmao
The FFA ban clubs from top division just cause they are wog
The definition of racism :whistle
Yes - Caucasians discriminating against other Caucasians is the very definition of "racism".......even moreso when it's all in your head.
Men's Soccer, the Racist game for Sissys™
that's the problem the FFA have, they can't ban racists and hooligans because then no-one will turn up lmao
The FFA ban clubs from top division just cause they are wog
The definition of racism :whistle
Yes - Caucasians discriminating against other Caucasians is the very definition of "racism".......even moreso when it's all in your head.
wtf are u on about
Brb - just off to tell my Jewish mate go harden up in regards to the Holocaust. Today I learned racism is not really racism if you have the same skin type
Are you really that thick
or is it just some kind of internet performance art?
The irony - no doubt completely lost on the likes of you
of falling back on the Holocaust
to defend your crackpot theory about the A-League is that the competition was established mainly through the efforts of Frank Lowy.
In the words of Frank Lowy: “The present clubs playing at the present standard will not be able to exist” (cited in Solly, 2004, p. 286). Lowy, here, in a Freudian slip, admits that lifein a state premier league is equivalent to non-existence from the perspective of the ordinaryfootball supporter. In addition to Lowy’s comments, ex-Soccer Australia Chairman DavidHill made the following derogatory remarks in relation to two ethnic clubs: “I have a problemwith the ethnic clubs in Melbourne and Sydney and in particular with the two Croatian clubsand the League would be better off without them” (cited in
Croatia Sydney Soccer Football Club Limited v Soccer Australia Limited
No. 3525/97 Unreported 23 September 1997(Einstein J) at 71, cited in Nimac
et al.
, 2008, p. 202).
http://www.academia.edu/3690705/Where_to_now_Melbourne_Croatia_Football_Federation_Australias_use_of_accounting_numbers_to_institute_exclusion_upon_ethnic_clubs
Damn it. 2-2. Lawrence "Spud" Thomas. His face even looks clueless.Yep lucky to get a draw in the end after the way we conceded two goals in eight mins but at least it's a point. To progress though you need to win your home ties.
PS Nice pass Broxy you hero. :banghead :banghead
Overall would have taken a draw though. :lol
Rather not get through and have a crack at the title.Damn it. 2-2. Lawrence "Spud" Thomas. His face even looks clueless.Yep lucky to get a draw in the end after the way we conceded two goals in eight mins but at least it's a point. To progress though you need to win your home ties.
PS Nice pass Broxy you hero. :banghead :banghead
Overall would have taken a draw though. :lol
SupaMuscat >>>> Lippi. :clapping
Kevin
Muscat
Booing Del Piero.....classy stuff from Judge's little Croat bum chums.Blokes a diving prick. :lol
Booing Del Piero.....classy stuff from Judge's little Croat bum chums.Blokes a diving prick. :lol
I'm not one that booed him. I'll call him a cheating prick during the game. :whistleBooing Del Piero.....classy stuff from Judge's little Croat bum chums.Blokes a diving prick. :lol
With more talent still -at the age of 40 and at half pace- in his big toe than all the A-League's fifth rate hacks put together.
By all means boo him during the game but not after it, when it may be his last in the A-League. Any real soccer fan should be eternally grateful he decided to grace our two-bit, fifth rate poo truck of a comp. with his presence and help raise it's profile. Even the inbreds over in Adelaide were gracious enough to realise that and acted accordingly by paying tribute before & after Sydney's last game there.
TV ratings are up substantially this season from what ive heard, although thats more to do with the brand than just ADP. I think sydneys crowds have been up since he come though. Pretty sure there was a spike in away game crowds involving sydney last season(dont know abt this season) I know he gave heart their biggest gate outside of a derby last season when he came to town about 14k ;DWell there ya stuffing go. Big ADP. What a legend. :clapping :clapping
A-League was also shown in Italy with all Sydney FC games broadcast live over there due to Del Piero.Bet the wogs turned off after 5 minutes.
Here's Melbourne City's new home and away kits ...
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/06/05/1226944/254283-9c90859c-ec57-11e3-873b-5e8c286cce93.jpg)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-city-is-born-but-cant-wear-manchester-citys-sky-blue/story-fnk9a3dc-1226944154908
Here's Melbourne City's new home and away kits ...
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/06/05/1226944/254283-9c90859c-ec57-11e3-873b-5e8c286cce93.jpg)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-city-is-born-but-cant-wear-manchester-citys-sky-blue/story-fnk9a3dc-1226944154908
Home in white :lol
I played at south springvale for a year and left bc they were only div 4 state league - I left to join a better team and within 4 years they were div 1 or VPL and my new team hawthorn pelopa were merging with South Wantirna a provisional league team - good call mapa :lol
I played at south springvale for a year and left bc they were only div 4 state league - I left to join a better team and within 4 years they were div 1 or VPL and my new team hawthorn pelopa were merging with South Wantirna a provisional league team - good call mapa :lol
Hahaha TM we always looked down on you Hawthorn Citizens from across Gardiners Creek at Malvern City even though we were Provisional 1 at that stage and slowly started our climb into the state leagues. :thumbsup
Are they on TVor rradio?I believe the deal is Fox is to show a minimum of 10 of these FFA Cup games.
Plenty of room aboard the City bandwagon - come on JR you know u want to :shh
South Springvale are Greek. Moniker is Aris from Thessaloniki. They wear balck and yellow vertical stripes like our Centennary guernsey in 2008.
Your thinking of Springvale White Eagles JR.
Berisha is an absolute terrier. Delpierre awesome up back too. About time we had a big CB. I see Geria still doesn't have a left foot. Hopefully Ansell replaces him when he gets back because Geria is a witches hat.
Berisha is an absolute terrier. Delpierre awesome up back too. About time we had a big CB. I see Geria still doesn't have a left foot. Hopefully Ansell replaces him when he gets back because Geria is a witches hat.
he does not need a left peg to play right back. He is good
ansell will come in for leijer
all the new signings are guns
Locked and loaded
That was the first A league game I've ever watched, I must say it wasn't bad viewing.
Finkler and Berisha have really good chemistry.
Are you and me the same person? :oThat was the first A league game I've ever watched, I must say it wasn't bad viewing.
My in laws are all Italian so I was only initiated into roundball a few years ago so A league is my main league and MV are my first team and have really got into it :cheers
Are you and me the same person? :oThat was the first A league game I've ever watched, I must say it wasn't bad viewing.
My in laws are all Italian so I was only initiated into roundball a few years ago so A league is my main league and MV are my first team and have really got into it :cheers
If my theory is correct then...nothing :shh :-*Are you and me the same person? :oThat was the first A league game I've ever watched, I must say it wasn't bad viewing.
My in laws are all Italian so I was only initiated into roundball a few years ago so A league is my main league and MV are my first team and have really got into it :cheers
What am I wearing?
If my theory is correct then...nothing :shh :-*Are you and me the same person? :oThat was the first A league game I've ever watched, I must say it wasn't bad viewing.
My in laws are all Italian so I was only initiated into roundball a few years ago so A league is my main league and MV are my first team and have really got into it :cheers
What am I wearing?
Besart Berisha > David villa
To David Villa, Sydney's defence is like FIFA15 on amateur level ;D.
That 10 game winning streak to start the season. Well done city :clapping
:lol Dugandzic is poo and so is Redmayne.That 10 game winning streak to start the season. Well done city :clapping
Game should've been over at halftime - dugandzic is a idiot, cannot stand him, misses way too many sitters. See you in 2 weeks - Villa will have a field day against Leijer :lol
:lol Dugandzic is poo and so is Redmayne.That 10 game winning streak to start the season. Well done city :clapping
Game should've been over at halftime - dugandzic is a idiot, cannot stand him, misses way too many sitters. See you in 2 weeks - Villa will have a field day against Leijer :lol
Villa will cover it for a few weeks though. :shh
If you can't stop Sydney from scoring then good luck stopping Berisha, Finkler, Barbarouse, Archie and of course Leigh 'I had as many shots and goals as WSW' Broxham ;D. Not just their individual class either as Victory's set piece moves had the WSW defence at 6s & 7s.
The only one criticism of Victory's performance I had is we gave away a soft goal but when you win 4-1 with four individual scorers and put on a great team display then you can't complain.
If you can't stop Sydney from scoring then good luck stopping Berisha, Finkler, Barbarouse, Archie and of course Leigh 'I had as many shots and goals as WSW' Broxham ;D. Not just their individual class either as Victory's set piece moves had the WSW defence at 6s & 7s.We only conceded because we were stuffing around with a 3 goal lead. Was frustrating watching them screw around but some of the stuff they pulled off at times was brilliant too. :clapping
The only one criticism of Victory's performance I had is we gave away a soft goal but when you win 4-1 with four individual scorers and put on a great team display then you can't complain.
If you can't stop Sydney from scoring then good luck stopping Berisha, Finkler, Barbarouse, Archie and of course Leigh 'I had as many shots and goals as WSW' Broxham ;D. Not just their individual class either as Victory's set piece moves had the WSW defence at 6s & 7s.We only conceded because we were stuffing around with a 3 goal lead. Was frustrating watching them screw around but some of the stuff they pulled off at times was brilliant too. :clapping
The only one criticism of Victory's performance I had is we gave away a soft goal but when you win 4-1 with four individual scorers and put on a great team display then you can't complain.
Only watched the first half - was boring as batpoo. Was expecting a belter - 2 best ball playing sides in the a-league imo
15k at AAMI forHeartCity's one-all draw with Newcastle which is a significant crowd increase for them. Question now is was it more than a one-off due to Villa?
15k at AAMI forHeartCity's one-all draw with Newcastle which is a significant crowd increase for them. Question now is was it more than a one-off due to Villa?
Whatever increase they get from the bandwagoners will certainly drop off once there are no results to show.
Besart Berisha > David villa
:lol you idiot
Besart Berisha > David villa
:lol you idiot
Orly
Villa didn't even walk over to the fans after the game with the rest of his team. Just went straight to the rooms. Pee poor effort. Just getting his pay cheque before buggering off.
Dwaino im finding the exact opposite to be honest. I don't know many people who love a league and not international soccer.
Love to know how many kids are taking up soccer vrs footy. Add in a World Cup in this country then it becomes more interesting.
Afl has turned to poo let's be honest. If I had a son the last sport I would want him playing is AFL the way it's run today. I barely last a full game and that's when we are winning.
Soccer TV audiences have more than doubled the past few years for A league - next TV rights that foxtel pay will be huge (think its at abot 40odd mill per season atm). Once that rises, then clubs get a bigger slice of the pie which = bigger salary cap which = better players, which = more fans wanting to watch a better product which = an even bigger TV rights after that and so on and so forth. Soccer finally got its poo together and is starting to grow at the top level.
Dwaino im finding the exact opposite to be honest. I don't know many people who love a league and not international soccer.
Besart Berisha > David villa
:lol you idiot
Orly
really.. In all seriousness, Berisha is a gun by a league standards, and he was awesome in the 2nd half and set you blokes alight early. It was the Villa show first half - was making Victory look stupid with his first touch and explosive speed off the mark
anyhow well played, thumped us 2nd half - flattering scoreline though, we were all over you in the 1st half but that's football. Berisha, Barba, Finkler and Del Pierre should lead you to a title.
Dwaino im finding the exact opposite to be honest. I don't know many people who love a league and not international soccer.
Depends who you hang out with. I've never had an interest sitting up stupid hours to watch international soccer and never followed it. Same with my mates. My boss has had Medallion seats for years and only recently started using them for soccer, he couldn't even name an overseas team. Only people I knew into an overseas league are my wog in laws and that might be something to do with them being wog. Myself a bogan Aussie and every other bogan Aussie I sit with at the soccer are new to the game.
Dwaino because some don't wake up at 3am doesn't mean they don't follow international soccer
I don't watch cricket overseas so does that mean I don't like love it
These are the facts. AFL crowds are down soccer is up. Kids are playing more soccer it seems and it will only increase more.
Afl has lost it passion since it became about money. Most people will agree with that comment
But there is a lot of bogans that have some idea. Bogan kids in 90s knew ronaldo. Ditto Jordan if not bball fans. And a lot of bogans with Brit/Irish backgrounds that have some idea due to family (liverpool bad wagoners or real fans). And there are lots of Australians that some idea. La liga / epl / cl watched by a lot of people in Asia and Australia and wider world
Dwaino im finding the exact opposite to be honest. I don't know many people who love a league and not international soccer.
Love to know how many kids are taking up soccer vrs footy. Add in a World Cup in this country then it becomes more interesting.
Afl has turned to poo let's be honest. If I had a son the last sport I would want him playing is AFL the way it's run today. I barely last a full game and that's when we are winning.
Soccer has been slaughtering footy at grassroots levels for a few years now Angus IIRC
Besart Berisha > David villa
:lol you idiot
Orly
really.. In all seriousness, Berisha is a gun by a league standards, and he was awesome in the 2nd half and set you blokes alight early. It was the Villa show first half - was making Victory look stupid with his first touch and explosive speed off the mark
anyhow well played, thumped us 2nd half - flattering scoreline though, we were all over you in the 1st half but that's football. Berisha, Barba, Finkler and Del Pierre should lead you to a title.
Was playing on a 17 year old and went past him a couple times
Whooaa :shh
Wanderers have become the first Aussie club to win the Asian Champions League.
They can thank Covic in goal and two dodgy non-penalty calls that went WSW's way.
Considering the outs, a good win by the Victory. Back on top :thumbsup.
Proper promotion and relegation would be disastrous for the A-league. Many clubs that would be relegated would die or at least never recover financially to make it back to the top flight. Australia just doesn't have a P/R culture.
I see this talk as having a pseudo P/R to appease the requests from the AFC. Clubs at the NPL level will have the opportunity to be promoted if they satisfy a whole heap of off-field criteria as well as being successful onfield. They would need average crowds and membership pushing 8-10k+, annual revenue capabilities of $20m+, facilities up to A-League standards, etc .... Alternatively, clubs in the A-league that fail consistently to satisfy certain criteria will be open to be relegated to the NRL level and replace by a NPL club that has met the promotion criteria.
Yes it occurs at amateur level in footy but not at the professional level. That's my point. Ammo clubs have small budgets and a tiny fan base (mostly family/friends/past players/officials) who connect with their ammo club irrespective of division. At the professional level, budgets are now at least $30m+ for most AFL clubs and Collingwood's revenue is $75m pushing towards the $100m mark. For any code, these budgets depend on increasing sponsorship, tv rights and membership which are directly linked to a club's exposure in the market place and form onfield. A poorly performing club that ends up relegated would see a significant drop in all categories as well loss of their best players. In one of the most competitive sporting markets here in Australia where many football clubs (all codes) are barely keeping their heads above water, relegation would break them financially. Australia doesn't have a culture of following second tier clubs in the numbers needed to support a promotion/relegation system. We're not the UK.Proper promotion and relegation would be disastrous for the A-league. Many clubs that would be relegated would die or at least never recover financially to make it back to the top flight. Australia just doesn't have a P/R culture.
I see this talk as having a pseudo P/R to appease the requests from the AFC. Clubs at the NPL level will have the opportunity to be promoted if they satisfy a whole heap of off-field criteria as well as being successful onfield. They would need average crowds and membership pushing 8-10k+, annual revenue capabilities of $20m+, facilities up to A-League standards, etc .... Alternatively, clubs in the A-league that fail consistently to satisfy certain criteria will be open to be relegated to the NRL level and replace by a NPL club that has met the promotion criteria.
Massive load of wank
For starters. Footy seems OK at ammos, doesn't it.
How come culture is not being destroying by promotion/relegation :whistle
City cruising 0-2 away to Brisbane at 1/2 time 8)You guys look much better.
Villa was a dud ;D
Playing 2 holding mids has made a big difference - love mass but cant play him and Mooy with only the Viking as defensive mid cover, balance is not right.. and I'd rather mooy over mass
Villa was a dud ;DJust didn't look like he wanted to be there. Wasn't really trying that hard. Smashed a couple home when he got the chance but didn't have many other chances because he didn't seem to work hard IMO.
Playing 2 holding mids has made a big difference - love mass but cant play him and Mooy with only the Viking as defensive mid cover, balance is not right.. and I'd rather mooy over mass
Won a World Cup -
Amazing time at barca
Amazing time at AMadrid last season
Playing for heart what a let down after that
Guest players is always a bit of bullshyte. Even if its messi or ronaldo. Te whole concept is tacky.
Geez should do well.
Villa was a dud ;D
Playing 2 holding mids has made a big difference - love mass but cant play him and Mooy with only the Viking as defensive mid cover, balance is not right.. and I'd rather mooy over mass
More or less what the commentary team were saying in regard to man united last night
playing essentially a: back four - carrick - front five
Lucky Jedina didn't play
0-0 at half-time between Victory & Sydney. Two disallowed goals, Ryall not going off for two yellows, and some poor finishing by both sides.
What I meant by that is Ryall should have been given two yellows.0-0 at half-time between Victory & Sydney. Two disallowed goals, Ryall not going off for two yellows, and some poor finishing by both sides.
don't think that's right, thinking he should have had a yellow in the first couple of minutes, certainly didn't receive 2 that I saw anyway
Going in I would have taken the draw with half the side out, but after not making the most of early chances makes it feel like one that got away. A couple good saves to Coe, but I really hope we replace him next season.Coe is a pretty good shot stopper. Just has no idea on high crosses. Could be worse, we could have Redmayne :lol
Going in I would have taken the draw with half the side out, but after not making the most of early chances makes it feel like one that got away. A couple good saves to Coe, but I really hope we replace him next season.Coe is a pretty good shot stopper. Just has no idea on high crosses. Could be worse, we could have Redmayne :lol
Just needs to remember he can use his hands and catch the bloody ball :bangheadGoing in I would have taken the draw with half the side out, but after not making the most of early chances makes it feel like one that got away. A couple good saves to Coe, but I really hope we replace him next season.Coe is a pretty good shot stopper. Just has no idea on high crosses. Could be worse, we could have Redmayne :lol
He's so unco though and sometimes I think he forgets he's a GK and not a CB :lol
Heart outAnd I thought the Socceroos defending against Japan was bad enough midweek. Geez, those two goals City conceded were U12s standard :laugh:.
Hellas in
Nice touch in tonights A-League game with the crowd clapping for a minute in the 63rd min in memory of Phil Hughes
Yep, the applause at the 63rd minute was nice touch.Nice touch in tonights A-League game with the crowd clapping for a minute in the 63rd min in memory of Phil Hughes
Great to see the respect right across the board. Even the Pakistan v NZ test suspended a day's play out of respect. Touching stuff.
As for the game, reckon the ref lost the plot but we move on undefeated ;D we don't even need to score our own goals two games in a row :lol
na gosford is awesome
nice people nice place bluetounge stadium beer comes out of everywhere
na gosford is awesome
nice people nice place bluetounge stadium beer comes out of everywhere
Game wasn't at Gosford
It was at North Sydney Oval,cohere they play district cricket weekly
Stuffing hell Geria is pedestrian.Looked like he hadn't played in 5 years. Stuffing useless.
Stuffing hell Geria is pedestrian.Looked like he hadn't played in 5 years. Stuffing useless.
Yep, terrible defending by us with all three goals. We left our central defence too open and Sydney twice were able to play to an attacker on the edge of the box which lead to their 1st and 3rd goals. The 2nd goal was schoolboy stuff at the set piece corner. Smeltz unmanned standing next to Coe and just steps inside for a free header :facepalm.Stuffing hell Geria is pedestrian.Looked like he hadn't played in 5 years. Stuffing useless.
Sydney just kept playing through his side and the first two crap, soft goals were because Geria couldn't be stuffed defending. No Galloway and Georgievski and left and right back was a killer and still really miss Finkler.
Thought the crowd was going to storm the field there at the end though lol. Bad challenge and trip in the box late, the blatant handball and that dog collapsing and running down nearly all of injury time. Now I've lost my voice :lol
Fox Sports declaring Griffiths Jones (ref) not up to refereeing a game like this. Thank you. But that doesn't give us that goal back. Also doesn't give Melling his reds (should have got 2)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5SjintCAAA5uyh.jpg)
Milligan's was accidental.
How can Victory ever expect to win anything with Coe and Geria on the park.Schoolboy defending from all of them tonight. Howlers in defence from Galloway, Ansell and Leijer as well. The first goal was from a simple high long ball that should be bread & butter for any defender at this level :facepalm.
We've dominated since that second goal in every column but the most important one. But hey that's soccer. What annoys me in the few years I've followed A League in no matter what game I watch is how casually the ref will issue the first yellow but how reluctant they are to pay a second and send a player off. So crucial in a game like this when one side have dominated but can't get on the board and the opposition has to resort to time wasting tactics like making two subs right on 90mins.Even the Perth player after the game admitted he was lucky (although he complained about getting the first yellow). No surprise though with A-league officialdom. They make AFL umpires look consistent.
Perth were 2 goals by 20mins and held on for dear life for the rest. Victory's own fault though for wasting so many good chances.
Barba was deadly early on playing real wide as a more classic winger but it's like he has been playing as an extra striker going real narrow but his finishing sucks. Don't like what seems to be an instruction to play as deep into the box instead of just taking a chance and shooting rather than these low percentage passes that keep getting turned over. Seems like we just keep playing one or two passes too many.Yep and conversely Berisha who should be played upfront is often forced to gather the ball too much deep in midfield. Not knocking his game though as he was one of our best on Friday night. We were just out of sync as a team and made dumb mistakes :scream which gets to your second point that our second string back half seems to be affecting the ball movement and rhythm of the whole side at the minute.
As for defending, definitely poor. But currently missing Del Pierre, Georgevski, and Milligan out of defence and Galloway has only just come back. Have been playing a second string back half for a while now. Plenty of upside once the full squad is back and the others pull their finger out.
Either decision making or coaching instructions were terrible on Friday. If there was one game Barba shouldn't be playing narrow it was against Perth. They got back and clogged the area in front of the box and he was still trying to be Messi and dribbling in there. Should have gone back to his earlier role and just stayed wide and peppering in the crosses. Berisha would have knocked one in sooner or later.Yep their Grand Final each year is playing us :lol.
We've got absolutely no drive from the back. That's where Georgevski has been so crucial to set up play from defense. Geria is useless. He can't attack and he is always caught in no man's land by his opponent. I hate it but I can understand him getting a game with both Galloway and Georgevski out, but now Galloway is back I'd rather blood Murnane than see Geria suit up to play ever again. Leijer can't go a week without getting carded for the stupidest things and I don't know who is going to come in for him now. Poor form on his behalf considering the holes already in defense. I take it Valeri (who is under done anyway) will have to drop back to CB and someone else will have to fill in CDM? That's two gaps to filled in the middle now with no Milligan either.
As for Heart, don't worry about them. They'll fire up next derby :shh
Burns is a super talent, stuffed up bigtime going to Greece (Aek)
he handed victory their arse on a platter and he aint even fit.
gun talent but never fulfilled it bc of bad career move. Not many aussies with better skills
Is more an attacking mid rather than striker so goal scoring isn't the only thing he should be measured on. Skill, vision he is class
Whoops. I completely forgot it was on and went to the gym. Midweek fixtures :bangheadValeri's volley goal was a ripper (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/msn-emoticons/msn-emoticon-soccer-140.gif).
It's not official until it's in your sig ;D
Perth 3 Victory 3
Threw away a two goal lead in the last 15 mins :damnpc.
:dancingThree Nil
Cernak ;D:lol
Gee whiz. Friday night football, Roar v Mariners. Riveting stuff :sleep how long until the footy is back?
Gee whiz. Friday night football, Roar v Mariners. Riveting stuff :sleep how long until the footy is back?
Rubbish league
Rubbish scoreline, ref will be having a holiday next week but classic end. Raining yellows and couldn't help but laugh, it was nearly on for young and old.History repeats ::)
Bozza saying it has been the same ref that has cost Victory 3 wins since last year's prelim against Brisbane :shh
Did you catch this one MT? Deadset howler. Lots of junk calls all weekend. Those handballs that were awarded in the box in the other games were rubbish. Geria lucky to not go off. Got carded them later on should have again. But typical A League fashion to give out the first one haphazardly but reluctant to issue a second. Agree with Bozza. If players and coaches are held accountable then so do the refs. I hope Victory request that Delovski never officiate another victory game.Yep, I saw it on the night. Ryall just belly flopped to the ground as he ran into the box without a defender within a metre of him. He's a cheat! It should have been a yellow card for simulation/diving. I'm glad Victory are making an official complaint about this. You can't have the same referee costing you games.
Update: MVC making an official complaint http://m.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/kevin-muscat-fumes-at-refereeing-standards-as-melbourne-victory-officials-put-the-heat-on-strebre-delovski-20150215-13fb9c.html
This guy should play soccer would fit right in
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/02/20/09/19/irishman-dives-theatrically-as-cop-touches-his-shoulder
say thankyou victory supporters, Perth last week, Adelaide this week:lol was a good game last night. Adelaide fans can claim "the better team lost" like they always do for another week. :thumbsup
Would be huge if Brissy could get up tonight. We'd have 2 games in hand to catch up 2 points. :clapping:shh :shh
I'll take that as a win :clappingDelpierre is back already :lol
Anyway, when is Delpierre back? Would have been too crowded with Valeri, Ansell, Delpierre and Leijer. Now we can get a younger one to develop as well. Should also halve Victory's cards for the remainder of the season :cheers
You guys apparently pocketed $200k in transfer fee - reckon you made out like bandits ;DI would have taken out a loan personally and paid them $200k to take him. :shh
Oh he is? I missed the weekend's game ;D:lol yeah he came on as sub. Looked like he hadn't missed a game.
Another week and another farcical performance from the referees that costs Victory the 3 points :banghead.
Clear offside for Perth's goal and then a clear handball against a Perth defender playing chicken-wings to block a shot in the box ::).
Sorry missed your post TM. What you mentioned about Kalfallah not getting a second yellow is something I've brought up plenty regarding a league. Refs will give out yellows so willy nilly but absolute reluctant to issue a second. I don't know if they are afraid of being incorrect and enforcing something that will have so much impact on a game, but when the second infringement is as bad if not as worse as the first well it is up to them to be consistent.I think the Khalfallah one was more the ref didn't see it than him not willing to issue a second. There wasn't a foul called from memory.
Khalfallah incident just from that game probably bad example, just pointing out my issue to TM but my point in general still stands ;D only way to get two yellows in an A League game is if your name is Adrian Leijer.And that's only because Victory ask the ref to give him a second. :lol
We have the opposite extreme this week. Refs aren't blowing crap. We were lucky not to give away a pen.Yep, we got the rub of the green tonight. Clearly the referee was told by the FFA to keep the whistle in his pocket.
Sorry missed your post TM. What you mentioned about Kalfallah not getting a second yellow is something I've brought up plenty regarding a league. Refs will give out yellows so willy nilly but absolute reluctant to issue a second. I don't know if they are afraid of being incorrect and enforcing something that will have so much impact on a game, but when the second infringement is as bad if not as worse as the first well it is up to them to be consistent.
Good win tonight, very clinical. Kalfallah is a gun. Victory should play like that against Perth, let those behindholes bring the bus fwd and then just pick them off.Perth are too poo to get the ball and allow us to do that. :lol
Good win tonight, very clinical. Kalfallah is a gun. Victory should play like that against Perth, let those behindholes bring the bus fwd and then just pick them off.Perth are too poo to get the ball and allow us to do that. :lol
City won but once again they produced a Heart-sized crowd (under 6000).
Horrible game but I'll take it.Lucky we were only playing Central Coast. Victory hasn't dished out such a poor team effort in a while. I don't think we've made so many poorly executed passes all year than we did last night in one game. Only two moments of sheer brilliance from Finkler saved our bacon and got us the three points.
A lot of people wearing green to this game.... ;D:lol :lol
Perth out of finals, heart in by default.Brisbane in by default as well.
Victory v City semi final :shh
Victory v City semi final :shh
Would be fantastic for Melbourne. :thumbsup
Victory v City semi final :shh
Would be fantastic for Melbourne. :thumbsup
It's hapenning on Friday night. :thumbsup
City have nothing to lose.
Given Perth were disqualified and us beating Wellington in NZ.
Victory have everything to lose given they got the Premier's Plate.
Has a Essendon v Carlton 1999 Prelim feel about it. ;D
Go City. Will be a great night for soccer in Australia either way.
I know this is an old saying but
"A derby, where the stakes could not be higher."
Got my tix this morning. :thumbsup
Will be pee poor if victory drop this one. Last derby they were just going through the motions while heart's season was on the line. Reaching the granny was always the expectation this year. Repeat of first derby, victory in a canter :thumbsup
A mate prone to telling porkies told me this so don't know how much truth is in it, but MVC members can only get 1 ticket per barcode and Heart can get 4?
Been to most victory games this year but giving this one a miss, but that is pretty crap if that's the case.
That's still crap. Not the fault of victory supporters that heart finished 4th last and can't get numbers though the gate.
5th* and 2 wins from a granny, not enough teams in the comp to warrant a valid final series. May as well just let the last 4 teams in too so everyone can have a run. I'll call it: heart to contain and clog it up behind the ball early and look for that one cheap foray over the top.
Heart v Sydney final :sleep
Got my tickets up the North End.
Now just to acquire some flares and bring on Sunday :lol
Now that he's ok, lmfao Lowe :lolGallop was more concerned about the trophy not falling with Lowe :wallywink
Khalfallah laughing is a peeer.
What a stuffing atmosphere too. Incredible day. :clapping :clapping
South Melbourne Hellas and Heidelberg Utd are in the FFA Cup round of 32.
Victory and City/Heart are away to state league teams.
Dates/times to be announced on Friday.
Westfield FFA Cup 2015 - Round of 32 Fixtures
Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory
Central Coast Mariners v Wellington Phoenix
Western Sydney Wanderers v Brisbane Roar
Croydon Kings v Lions FC
Hume City v Brisbane Strikers
Blacktown City v Metrostars SC
Rockdale City Suns v Perth SC
Oakleigh Cannons v FNQ FC Heat
Palm Beach SC v South Melbourne
Sydney United 58 v South Hobart
Gungahlin United v Sydney Olympic
Broadmeadow Magic v Heidelberg United
Darwin Olympic v Adelaide United
Sorrento FC v Sydney FC
Balmain Tigers v Melbourne Victory
Edgeworth FC v Melbourne City
http://www.theffacup.com.au/article/westfield-ffa-cup-round-of-32-draw-revealed/1pp9mmip8cpcp13r8nq4zduwnv
All I remember is South's Greek supporters being angry that Hellas was dropped from their club's name by force by Soccer Australia ;).South Melbourne Hellas and Heidelberg Utd are in the FFA Cup round of 32.
Victory and City/Heart are away to state league teams.
Dates/times to be announced on Friday.
Westfield FFA Cup 2015 - Round of 32 Fixtures
Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory
Central Coast Mariners v Wellington Phoenix
Western Sydney Wanderers v Brisbane Roar
Croydon Kings v Lions FC
Hume City v Brisbane Strikers
Blacktown City v Metrostars SC
Rockdale City Suns v Perth SC
Oakleigh Cannons v FNQ FC Heat
Palm Beach SC v South Melbourne
Sydney United 58 v South Hobart
Gungahlin United v Sydney Olympic
Broadmeadow Magic v Heidelberg United
Darwin Olympic v Adelaide United
Sorrento FC v Sydney FC
Balmain Tigers v Melbourne Victory
Edgeworth FC v Melbourne City
http://www.theffacup.com.au/article/westfield-ffa-cup-round-of-32-draw-revealed/1pp9mmip8cpcp13r8nq4zduwnv
I wish to lodge an official protest over OE's post. The name of my club is South Melbourne Football Club Limited. Hellas was taken out of the name about 20 years ago. We will probably make it to the last 16 but that's about it IMHO. We don't have the defensive players to go further. South was hoping to get Victory so they could get the gate. 15,000 at Lakeside would have seen South get a nice pay day... hopefully they meet in the round of 16.
Mvfc has played friendlys at bob Jane beforeVictory won't have to worry about playing at Bob Jane stadium this season. South were knocked out of the FFA Cup in the first round by a local Gold Coast team lol. At least Heidelberg got through of the old Greek NSL clubs.
From memory lots of croats
So half the A-League teams will be gone after this round. That's without any upsets.The draw is 'fixed' to make sure at least one non-A-League club makes the semi-finals.
So half the A-League teams will be gone after this round. That's without any upsets.The draw is 'fixed' to make sure at least one non-A-League club makes the semi-finals.
Finally became a Victory member :cheers
Victory have replaced Milligan with Bozanic as marquee Aussie. Great signing :cheers
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/09/02/bozanic-signs-three-year-deal-melbourne-victory
Still on the fence with new Victory kit. I don't mind the new home design but I'm really spewing it doesn't have a collar. Didn't like last year's away guernsey but looks ok with a few tweaks this season.
Victory through to the quarters of the FFA Cup but we gave up a penalty and an own goal to state league club Rockdale City.
Heidelberg Utd are stiff to get drawn A-League Melb City when the other two state league clubs that made it through play each other.
Quarter Finals draw
Heidelberg vs Melb. City
Finally became a Victory member :cheers
well done dwaino, good to see you supporting the game even if it is victory :snidegrin
Victory have replaced Milligan with Bozanic as marquee Aussie. Great signing :cheers
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/09/02/bozanic-signs-three-year-deal-melbourne-victory
Still on the fence with new Victory kit. I don't mind the new home design but I'm really spewing it doesn't have a collar. Didn't like last year's away guernsey but looks ok with a few tweaks this season.
Yep Bozanic is a good signing - on the periphery of the National team.
Footy over so bring on October 17 :cheersAlready banked a win over Adelaide on the 9th? :lol
Footy over so bring on October 17 :cheersAlready banked a win over Adelaide on the 9th? :lol
Footy over so bring on October 17 :cheersAlready banked a win over Adelaide on the 9th? :lol
Well since it's in Adelaide I won't be going.
Victory should be at least two up. Wasted some great chances.Make that we should be 4 or 5 up. Barbarouses' long shot hit the upright; Berisha was through but tried to shoot with his right instead of his left allowing the defender to get ball and legs; Finkler's shot from 6 yards is parried by the Adelaide keeper.
Victory should be at least two up. Wasted some great chances.Make that we should be 4 or 5 up. Barbarouses' long shot hit the upright; Berisha was through but tried to shoot with his right instead of his left allowing the defender to get ball and legs; Finkler's shot from 6 yards is parried by the Adelaide keeper.
That's hardly a foul let alone a card. Get stuffed.LOL getting sent off for only that. Another year and another A-League referee who has no idea :facepalm.
In fairness he's not a new ref so it's to be expected.That's hardly a foul let alone a card. Get stuffed.LOL getting sent off for only that. Another year and another A-League referee who has no idea :facepalm.
The positive I'll take out is Bozanic. Such silky feet, turned a few players inside out and surprised at his strength given his size.Another shrewd signing by the Victory going by Friday's night effort :thumbsup.
Vuka should never have let that first one through. Can't believe he didn't go to ground to stop it, ref would have looked after him being the keeper. Mooy really killed us in that second half but must have been swinging from the refs nuts when it was raining fouls for them. After we were denied a penalty thought would have to be content with the draw but glad to pull out that late one out of the bag. Our work in the final third certainly needs improvement. We stuff around with it way too much and are wasting solid chances.I'm still not sure what Vuka was doing with their first. He was just too hesitant. The City's player first touch wasn't great and the ball was there to dive on and smother :huh3.
Most of all love our new reserved seats on the corner above the north end ferals :cheers
Vuka should never have let that first one through. Can't believe he didn't go to ground to stop it, ref would have looked after him being the keeper. Mooy really killed us in that second half but must have been swinging from the refs nuts when it was raining fouls for them. After we were denied a penalty thought would have to be content with the draw but glad to pull out that late one out of the bag. Our work in the final third certainly needs improvement. We stuff around with it way too much and are wasting solid chances.I'm still not sure what Vuka was doing with their first. He was just too hesitant. The City's player first touch wasn't great and the ball was there to dive on and smother :huh3.
Most of all love our new reserved seats on the corner above the north end ferals :cheers
The second one, we pushed too many forward while not being alert defensively. It left our centre backs isolated in the defensive half. Granted great ball by Mooy.
How big was the crowd?
Lucky to be level still. They're killing us. Where has our mojo gone?
Lucky to be level still. They're killing us. Where has our mojo gone?
Victory just can't win in Newcastle.
Haven't done so since 2009.
Even harder now that Newcastle have scored.
Newcastle = North Melbourne of the A-league.Lucky to be level still. They're killing us. Where has our mojo gone?
Victory just can't win in Newcastle.
Haven't done so since 2009.
Even harder now that Newcastle have scored.
Yep bogey side!
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc/a-third-sydney-aleague-team-may-replace-wellington-phoenix-20151021-gkf17t.htmlThe power of politics. The FFA to get rid of a club that's relatively financially stable because they're not Australian so they can bring in another Sydney club to score a state of the art $60m facility from the local member who happens to be the Treasurer. Makes no sense otherwise as the St George area would support Sydney FC already.
how good is betts and garlett up front for the sheepshaggers
mooy is class
how good is betts and garlett up front for the sheepshaggers
Real good
Figi international, at least one I them
Gee it must be a fun game to play I you were than skillfull
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc/a-third-sydney-aleague-team-may-replace-wellington-phoenix-20151021-gkf17t.htmlThe power of politics. The FFA to get rid of a club that's relatively financially stable because they're not Australian so they can bring in another Sydney club to score a state of the art $60m facility from the local member who happens to be the Treasurer. Makes no sense otherwise as the St George area would support Sydney FC already.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc/a-third-sydney-aleague-team-may-replace-wellington-phoenix-20151021-gkf17t.htmlThe power of politics. The FFA to get rid of a club that's relatively financially stable because they're not Australian so they can bring in another Sydney club to score a state of the art $60m facility from the local member who happens to be the Treasurer. Makes no sense otherwise as the St George area would support Sydney FC already.
The FFA has rejected Wellington Phoenix's application for a 10-year licence extension.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffa-board-decision-on-wellington-phoenix-licence-application/1pfovwij2xb731kk2y1g2n7n3y
Bye bye Wellington.
I admit I don't know anything about him but stuff me the Jet's manager seems like a huge tool in interviews.d
Yeah but I'm blind to tool bags on my own team ;D:lol
They can manufacture as many derbies and rivalries as they want, the one I care most about beating is Sydney.
Would also sacrifice another domestic title for an ACL trophy and get a star on the guernsey.
YeeeAaaaahhhhh! :bow :bow:thumbsup
Just let the whole comp wear blue.It's funny how when they started, Heart claimed they were going to a pure genuine club and they called Victory "plastic", yet they've virtually had a brand change every year where their name, moniker and colours mean nothing and can be changed at a moment's notice on the owner's whim.
Crap kits, crap commentary, and a worse pitch :thumbsdownWhoever gave the tick for that cow paddock as well as the clashing kits should be sacked.
If this is all Wellington can deliver then stuff off and good riddance.They'll end up with the biggest crowd for the round thanks to these boycotts. The only crowd to crack 5 figures.
It was De Bohun and he overruled the referee :facepalm.Crap kits, crap commentary, and a worse pitch :thumbsdownWhoever gave the tick for that cow paddock as well as the clashing kits should be sacked.
Onus should have been on Wellington to wear their usual yellow and black home strip. I thought that Victory were stuck with the white due to sponsorship (Oliana on the away strip).
He won't go to an Arab league. Hasn't he already ruled that out? Yesterday on A League site he said he has ambitions to play at the top. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the Championship for game time and a stepping stone. Would also be surprised if he is still in the A League beyond next transfer window with the talk around him, including by himself, and the interest shown.
Yeah he's already Aussie marquee so would be on decent coin anyway.
Dwaino, reckon he could step straight into a mid to low end premier league side in January. It would be the end of our league run but would be really happy for the lad.
Yeah he's already Aussie marquee so would be on decent coin anyway.
Dwaino, reckon he could step straight into a mid to low end premier league side in January. It would be the end of our league run but would be really happy for the lad.
Wot, someone like Chelsea ? :snidegrin :snidegrin
Yeah he's already Aussie marquee so would be on decent coin anyway.
Dwaino, reckon he could step straight into a mid to low end premier league side in January. It would be the end of our league run but would be really happy for the lad.
Wot, someone like Chelsea ? :snidegrin :snidegrin
Would he get to regularly start in a lower EPL side? Seems to have or close enough to have locked down a Socceroos spot so would be a shame if he couldn't get the game time and jeopardised his national spot.
Unless there I an offer from a pretty decent club
Unless there I an offer from a pretty decent club
Yes that
Back to our best tonight, totally smothered Brisbane :clapping first time in a long time that the South End were more vocal than the North End too. AAMI has a great vibe with a big crowd, just a shame it wasn't built with another 10-15k seats.Yep dwaino, that was our best team performance of the season. Pressure, intensity and just lethal in front of goal. :thumbsup
Awesome debut by Nigro, killed Broich and set up a goal.
9.4https://cms1.performgroup.com/dct/ffa-dtc-performgroup-eu-west-1/National%20Registration%20Regulations_j1hz9us7h8xp1jegcdy450rz6.pdf
(b) A National League Club cannot transfer or loan a Professional:
(i) (ii)
to another National League Club; or
to a Member Federation Club or Institute during the term of his Professional Player Contract unless the National League Club can satisfy FFA that exceptional circumstances exist. In making its determination, FFA will consider factors such as:
I don't really care either, A-League is arse.
Will the FFA have the guts to dock points from the Wanderers as they warned last time if there was another incident?
The RBB's actions affected the game itself and they are regular culprits as opposed to one-off incidents. The FFA warned them last time as well.Will the FFA have the guts to dock points from the Wanderers as they warned last time if there was another incident?
seriously ??, there were worse incidents on Level 2 & not an away visitor in sight
The FFA has fined Western Sydney Wanderers $50,000 and imposed a suspended three competition point deduction after finding the club guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.The FFA only have themselves to blame when they failed an opportunity to crack down hard on this with the Wanderers last week.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/football-federation-australia-to-hand-down-verdict-on-western-sydney-wanderers-flare-saga/news-story/a5045d1f2f1f50b6e8294f01ac7b57aa
The FFA has fined Western Sydney Wanderers $50,000 and imposed a suspended three competition point deduction after finding the club guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.The FFA only have themselves to blame when they failed an opportunity to crack down hard on this with the Wanderers last week.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/football-federation-australia-to-hand-down-verdict-on-western-sydney-wanderers-flare-saga/news-story/a5045d1f2f1f50b6e8294f01ac7b57aa
The FFA has fined Western Sydney Wanderers $50,000 and imposed a suspended three competition point deduction after finding the club guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.The FFA only have themselves to blame when they failed an opportunity to crack down hard on this with the Wanderers last week.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/football-federation-australia-to-hand-down-verdict-on-western-sydney-wanderers-flare-saga/news-story/a5045d1f2f1f50b6e8294f01ac7b57aa
what do you think should happen to Victory, Flare(s) & throwing missiles @ the oppo keeper ?
Same as Wanderers, fine and suspended sentence.
I think it's a given taz that Victory will cop the same punishment as the Wanderers.The FFA has fined Western Sydney Wanderers $50,000 and imposed a suspended three competition point deduction after finding the club guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.The FFA only have themselves to blame when they failed an opportunity to crack down hard on this with the Wanderers last week.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/football-federation-australia-to-hand-down-verdict-on-western-sydney-wanderers-flare-saga/news-story/a5045d1f2f1f50b6e8294f01ac7b57aa
what do you think should happen to Victory, Flare(s) & throwing missiles @ the oppo keeper ?
I think it's a given taz that Victory will cop the same punishment as the Wanderers.
50k fine and suspended sentence of loss of points.
Odds are the dumb muzzas will cost both clubs points and more in the coming weeks.
50k fine and suspended sentence of loss of points.
Odds are the dumb muzzas will cost both clubs points and more in the coming weeks.
Reckon they got off lightly just like the Wanderers
Mullins won the ball
What a soft red card
:pray1-1 in the home leg. It's going to be a tough ask away next week in South Korea. We'll need to score at least once, given we're now behind on the away goal.
Our depth is massive too now. Mitch Austin, Mahazi, FBK could all start in their own right but will probably start from the bench more often than not. Unless FBK plays LM/RM? We've used him as a winger and Troisi and Rojas have him covered there. He always apparently wanted to play as a 10 and I assumed that would be the case after Gui but now I guess the Bison will go there.
http://outside90.com/michael-essien-set-to-to-join-melbourne-victory/Sadly, has fallen through at the 11th hour.
good call bents - stuff it why not? hes retired from internationals and would be brilliant for the league - pay whatever it takes
A fantastic game last night, one of A leagues best IMO
A fantastic game last night, one of A leagues best IMO
Only caught the last 20 mins
it was pumping, what a game
plus another 3
yet again for a half we just blew chances and wasted every play into final third. We should be threatening every time we attack but something just isn't working. We're not playing Bes or Rojas to their strengths, our crosses are poor and we've gone back to not taking shots and just trying to walk it into goals again. Poor starts like that will cost us against better teams.And it cost us big time tonight :scream. I think we hit the post 3 times :P. Seriously, it should've/could've/would've been 6-1 if we nailed even half our chances. Then add the goal we conceded was schoolboy-ish defending (we were ballwatching) and we blew 2 points.
Merrick has resigned. Nix are a rabble.With the talk of expansion and bringing in more Aussie-based clubs for the 2018-19 season, it's probably a chance to kick Wellington out of the league to satisfy the AFC rules.
Sydney FC v WSW awesome crowd. This derby poos on the Melbourne one as both teams have large supporter bases where as ours is always just one sided.
So did a plaer really cop a 5-match suspension just for calling another player a "gypsy'? Haha stuff me drunk....Dean Bouzanis given five-match A-League ban for Besart Berisha 'gypsy' slur in Melbourne Derby ...
So did a plaer really cop a 5-match suspension just for calling another player a "gypsy'? Haha stuff me drunk....
Perth supporters chant towards West Sydney supporters last night "We pay your Centrelink!";D
Thought Victory shouldve buried them in the first half with some big big chances fluffed. Sydney are a quality side no doubt about it, but how good would it be to see them dominate a season like they have only to get beaten in the final. Still think Victory have the quality and cutting edge to win the whole thing, bit unlucky the other nightThat's what I'm hoping for, TM :pray.
I know conditions in Sydney on Friday night were ordinary but that pitch was a shocker...Good to see Ange have a go at the state of Sydney's Allianz Stadium's pitch. It's a joke that modern professional Soccer games are played on that cow paddock.
Or you could simply say well played to the opposition occasionally? :P What is it about victory supporters and not being able to say 'well played, just too good on the day' - dont think Ive ever heard a victory supporter say it, ever - its always about how bad they played or the mistakes they made. ;DGood opposition's make you pay for your defensive mistakes but that doesn't stop the defensive mistakes so far this season being Victory's mistakes. My comment wasn't designed to dismiss City/Heart as they have started the season very well. Even in our latest match, Adelaide's Lia's finishes (especially the first strike) were sweetly hit but the lead up to his strikes were due to our poor defending :facepalm. Actually all 4 goals in the Victory-vs-Adelaide game were due to poor defending.
City's first goal was a ripper finish by the new signing - Victory's goal was a ripper too - the build up tore the defence to shreds
KK looks strong at npl level, classes above the opposition - would love to see him given a go and do well
Most of our cards were there by the letter of the law (though most refs have the common sense to let some go) but it was pretty obvious he was out on a mission when they were only one way. WSW could hack us with impunity and there was no way that was a pen. We still haven’t been able to put a full side on the park. We have no mojo at the moment but at least the draws keep the points rolling over until it clicks. George is keeping us in it, he is a gun. Can see why Williams is on the periphery of the national team too, very athletic and great skills for a CB. Just needs to stay injury free.I'm hoping this fightback against the odds has restored some mojo. It's unbelievable that despite being winless after 5 games we're still only 2 points out of the top 6 :o.
And Fox need to ditch Ned Zellic. He’s a deadset embarrassment.
A league is rubbish like that, the top 6 play finals. We’ll probably bomb out and still finish 6th and play finals which is crap. I think it was last season when WSW made it and they had only won a few games for the season? :lolThe purists would want just a league format but the FFA won't want to miss out on the $$$ and publicity from a top 6 finals series. It also keeps interest in the season. If it was just a league format then it would be down to two-horse race already after just 8 rounds with City falling away in the past couple of weeks.
Omfg finally someone else that saw it!!! I was losing my poo. With the VAR now how does that even happen? The commentators kept saying it was correct yet no mention of it post game.The commentators are all from Sydney and don't hide their bias. It's like the A-league's version of the AFL's 5AA & 6PR.
How does Adrian not get a second yellow for elbowing someone in the head?Another time the VAR was asleep at the wheel last night ::).
This League is a bloody joke how Sydney centric it is. Then Arnie comes out in his press conference to say they are adding players?? Wtf. What are they paying them with? Their salary cap is absolutely bloated as it is and some people are already starting to ask the question. Then you got guys like Buijs who are already after more money. If they’re getting some marquees signed off by the FFA I’m stuffing done.It was this Sydney-centric attitude from the sport's hierarchy and admin back in the 90s and early 2000s that hurt the NSL and sent Aussie Soccer broke. Someone needs to remind Lowy, the FFA and the commentators that Australia doesn't end at Picton ::).
I didn't want to include the one against Brillante (I think it was) for fouling as last man and denying a goal scoring opportunity as I don't think we were in control of the ball. If it were deemed that way then it was definitely there but for the sake of the game I'm glad the ref didn't call it that way, just like it should have been left when Williams was sent off for it against Wellington when the both the ref and the VAR gave it the all clear initially.The senior core of our squad hasn't really changed since Muscat took over. Sure we've lost good players but we haven't replaced them with similar quality and Kevin relies on the same older (and now slower) blokes to try and deliver. As much as Milligan is another loss, let's hope we take this opportunity to rejuvenate our squad over the next six-twelve months. Agree Bes and Valeri are done and are the older blokes that needs to make way.
A few seasons ago Milligan was actually suspended by the MRP for collecting I think it was a City player with his elbow. Unfortunately wrong shade of blue, Adrian gets off and is there to set up the win.
While I think we've got some fair excuses after that game it doesn't change the fact that Kev has lost the plot at team selection. I think had Leroy played we would have scored at least once when we were all over them in the first 25 minutes. Ingham should never start ever again, he should feel lucky if he even gets to put a tracksuit on to sit on the bench. He is just garbage. Deng at LB to begin with, OK, sure, doesn't hurt to try a few things and it worked in round 1. However he got smashed in the second half, Broxham has been playing LB well so why they weren't swapped is beyond me. Had Deng been moved to CB there is no way Bozo would have been able to get that header in. Not sure what Theo has to do to get a start. Are they scared he will show his worth and get scooped up like Pasquali? Need to start giving him more than injury time or another A-League is just going to take him. Bes is done. He tries hard, in his heart he means well and he's still got the brains but his pace and reactions are really falling behind. Unfortunately we've got no one else, still don't know the point in signing Kenny. Troisi was a gun last season, but it seems after his failed move to England his heart isn't in it this season and he's really frustrating to watch. Antonis has to be tried at 10. And the sooner this season is over and Valeri retires the better.
Stuff me
https://twitter.com/Ancelottery/status/957061524442333184
Kev also hasn't changed the way we play. His plan won the double and nearly got us there again, only missing out by essentially the flip of a coin (penalties), but to stay on top he needs to keep evolving. I don't think he has any new ideas. TM hit on the head, Kev needs to go on a trip overseas for a season and watch some other teams. Maybe even manage in another league. I'm writing this season off. I hope we get a get a new manager, clean out some of the older blokes and just simply hacks like Ingham, bank Milligan's $1million and go shopping on a marquee or two with some clever recruiting at the 10, LB and CM/DM.Agree with all that, dwaino. Definitely, less and not more Ingham types :help.
As for the fouls, I'm a firm believer that it doesn't matter what sport it is the better teams are going to generally concede less fouls while the poorer teams will commit more, and this is just due to general discipline and also being in possession more.That's true unless you're Richmond ;).
I don't see how any team after 12 rounds can be twice as far ahead. Averages don't work that way unless they're artificially skewed.Finding the mean (6.4) & standard deviation (1.0) of the other 9 sides, then Sydney are almost 8 standard deviations away from the mean whereas every other team is within 1.5 sigma either side of the mean and non-skewed. So yep it's fair to say Sydney's is artificially skewed as the probability of it being just a statistical anomaly is virtually zero.
That would appease/please the AFC, dwaino.
As far as expansion, I'll believe it when I see it with how dysfunctional the FFA is now.
That's what should happen but the problem the FFA has is there isn't too many instant Western Sydneys out there so the options for expansion are limited. Getting rid of Wellington means 3 new clubs are needed to get to 12. Options limited to South Sydney/Shire/Wollongong, one of Dandenong/Casey or Geelong, & possibly Ipswich/Western Brisbane (?). The FFA will want more derbies to boost crowds and ratings, so I don't see them returning to the Fury or Gold Coast anytime soon.That would appease/please the AFC, dwaino.
As far as expansion, I'll believe it when I see it with how dysfunctional the FFA is now.
They've got to go, as simple as that. They served their purpose which was to fill out another franchise in a small market when the comp was finding its feet. Including the Knights, NZ has not grown one iota and contribute nothing to the league. Instead they suck out of it with continually poor performances, poor crowds and just not being marketable at all. They aren't even in the same federation as us anymore so it just makes no sense and from the outside looking in, their inclusion just looks cheap. If the current A League club bosses are serious about a separate competition from the FFA to build on the current competition by expansion and another tier as they are saying then NZ just has to go. The only purpose the Nix currently serve is developing young Aus players. That can be done at home with an expanded competition. The FFA can keep the Socceroos and leave the A League to someone else because clearly beyond the Sydney market they don't give a toss about developing the domestic league.
That’s why expansion won’t happen under FFA. It would require the current club bosses to go through with their talk, create a new comp and you will see some of the old NSL and ethnic clubs come back. The FFA would never do this and creating even two new sterile, characterless teams from scratch won’t do anything for the game.Yep. The wishful thinking mentality of the FFA with Gallop in charge is to "fish where the fish are". They see waving their wand and creating another Sydney and another Melbourne team as creating more derbies and solving all ills believing that will boost crowds and tv ratings. As you say this won't happen if these new teams are characterless and as a result have no major following. However, the FFA will never bring in a South Melbourne despite its history and multi-generational supporter base.The FFA has never wanted old 'ethnic' NSL clubs. Even Wollongong Wolves won't come back as the FFA seem locked in on a South Sydney team.
And Geria is off to JL2. Another decent transfer fee is nice but we’re running out of players and it’s pretty bad when a second tier Asian comp is more attractive than the HAL.It all comes back to how the sport is governed. The fish rots from the head. Not just the current board either. It's taken Gallop over 5 years to finally wake up to the fact that Aussie Soccer doesn't own rivers of gold ::).
That would appease/please the AFC, dwaino.
As far as expansion, I'll believe it when I see it with how dysfunctional the FFA is now.
They've got to go, as simple as that. They served their purpose which was to fill out another franchise in a small market when the comp was finding its feet. Including the Knights, NZ has not grown one iota and contribute nothing to the league. Instead they suck out of it with continually poor performances, poor crowds and just not being marketable at all. They aren't even in the same federation as us anymore so it just makes no sense and from the outside looking in, their inclusion just looks cheap. If the current A League club bosses are serious about a separate competition from the FFA to build on the current competition by expansion and another tier as they are saying then NZ just has to go. The only purpose the Nix currently serve is developing young Aus players. That can be done at home with an expanded competition. The FFA can keep the Socceroos and leave the A League to someone else because clearly beyond the Sydney market they don't give a toss about developing the domestic league.
They only showed the goal once. Agree it looked dodgy but there was quite a bit of shuffling of players, don’t think the VAR would have let it slide if it wasn’t OK considering what they’ve over turned before.Yep. Thomas has saved our backside about 4 times that half with brilliant saves.
We need some possession. Getting smashed and we won’t keep them goalless if it keeps up.
Thomas no surprise is man of the match and wins the Marston Medal :clapping.
Bes off to Japan. Hopefully it means we can throw cash at George.He was coming to the end of his A-league career anyway as he'd lost a yard of pace. Thanks for the titles, Bes :clapping.
Honda :prayThat would be a massive get :o.
https://twitter.com/gomvfc/status/1026256540842569728?s=20Massive get :thumbsup and by the sound of it we're chasing another one or two to join Honda in the front half.
A League has a global audience and no wonder ex players like Leroy go away telling international media how much of a joke it is. Some would say karma after the review failure in last season’s final, but that was on the linesman if the VAR malfunctioned. This time it didn’t. The ref spent minutes reviewing tape, watching Fornaroli flop without contact and upgrades the original call of a foul outside the box to a penalty. Would love to hear the justification because that’s simply cheating.The excuse they are apparently going with is that VAR is only used for reviewing decisions that are not based on interpretation. So the actual "foul" call wasn't reviewed by the ref; VAR was only used by the ref to check if the "contact" occurred in or outside of the box.
A League has a global audience and no wonder ex players like Leroy go away telling international media how much of a joke it is. Some would say karma after the review failure in last season’s final, but that was on the linesman if the VAR malfunctioned. This time it didn’t. The ref spent minutes reviewing tape, watching Fornaroli flop without contact and upgrades the original call of a foul outside the box to a penalty. Would love to hear the justification because that’s simply cheating.The excuse they are apparently going with is that VAR is only used for reviewing decisions that are not based on interpretation. So the actual "foul" call wasn't reviewed by the ref; VAR was only used by the ref to check if the "contact" occurred in or outside of the box.
So much for wanting the correct decision :help.
Thankfully Richmond isn't playing at the SCG this year. What a disgrace for Victory to lose one of its best players due to playing on that cow paddock :banghead.
lol sadly true :-\.Thankfully Richmond isn't playing at the SCG this year. What a disgrace for Victory to lose one of its best players due to playing on that cow paddock :banghead.
We are playing like cows so it may have suited us
Today's Victory vs Wellington game was one of worst refereeing displays I've ever seen. Kruse gets blocked and cops an elbow to the face and it's no free but kick the ball in play and you get sent off :facepalm. Sure it was a high kick but that's not a red card. At worst it should be a free kick.
Without Muscat's bullying of the ref's things are getting back to an even keel !!Victory is crap this season :P and no surprise Kurz was sacked but if Muscat was still coach he would be doing his nut at the inconsistency of the VAR.
How much compo did kurtz get?He signed at two-year deal and lasted only half a season. Not sure if there were any clauses in his contract. He's had regular falling outs at other clubs.
Popovic has turned Victory around quickly since he's become manager.Only took a few months to win a trophy :clapping :thumbsup.
No Wollongong Wolves - who cares.... :thumbsdownYour boys are in it, Dio.