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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 20, 2007, 03:04:44 AM
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Bookies and "experts" tips:
Richmond 3.60
Port Adelaide 1.25
Richmond Under 39.5 Pts 4.25
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts 14.00
Draw 51.00
Port Adelaide Under 39.5 Pts 2.15
Port Adelaide Over 39.5 Pts 2.70
The Age 2-12 -> Emma Quayle and Geoff McClure tipped us
Herald-Sun 0-18
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Forward scout: round 16
2:44 PM Thu 19 July, 2007
By Greg Lange, Brian Royal
for richmondfc.com.au
LESSONS FROM LAST WEEK
To play four quarters. Against Hawthorn we started the game very well, probably lost control of it early in the second and then were blown away in the last quarter. This weekend it is important we not only play out the quarters but also play out the game.
UNDER THE TIGERS’ MICROSCOPE
There will certainly be changes to the side; I think Terry has made that well known throughout the course of the week. Obviously coming up against Port Adelaide this week it is important that we deny them their running game.
SPY CAMERA
I think you will find, statistically, they are very dominant at centre bounces and score a lot of their goals from clearances. So it is important from our point of view that our midfield is very strong defensively.
We need to restrict the amount of opportunities they can score from. Port Adelaide is a very quick side and likes to get the ball into space. So, again, defensively we are going to have to apply a lot of pressure.
TREDREA AND ‘THE HOFF’
I think you will find in the last few weeks Warren Tredrea is back in the form that made him a very good player. They also have Justin Westhoff. He is a young kid in his first year and has popped up as a key target for Port up forward. He is taking the pressure off Tredrea. They will also throw Chad Cornes and Brendan Lade down there which will be a challenge for our defenders.
ANYONE ELSE WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT?
They have a few players who are in terrific form at the moment. Shaun Burgoyne is a very good player through the midfield, Peter Burgoyne, Chad and Kane Cornes. Another one is Domenic Cassisi. He is in career-best form.
OUR BIGGEST HURDLE?
The last couple of weeks, mentally, we have been a little bit off the boil. We have been fairly competitive in most games, apart from the last two weeks and the Geelong game. So, it is important that we come to the game with the right mindset.
If we do, then we believe we have a strong chance of winning this game. If we deny Port their natural game you take away a lot of their strengths.
WHEN LAST WE MET:
Richmond v Port Adelaide at Football Park, round seven, 2007: Port 16.19 (115) to the Tigers 10.15 (75).
WIN PERCENTAGE
Richmond v Port Adelaide: 71.43 per cent (Power)
Richmond at the MCG: 55.02 per cent
Port Adelaide at the MCG: 41.67 per cent
Richmond v Port Adelaide at the MCG: 100 per cent (Richmond)
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=47579
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Richmond v Port Adelaide at the MCG: 100 per cent (Richmond)
Sunday will be the first time in 9 years we've played Port at our home ground the 'G ::) and only the 5th time we've played them in Melbourne since they entered the comp in 1997.
R10, 30th May, 1998 @ the MCG. Crowd: 31,225
Richmond 1.5 5.10 11.15 13.19-97
Port Adel 3.4 4.7 5.9 9.13-67
R21, 24th August, 1997 @ the MCG. Crowd 22,516
Richmond 5.3 10.6 19.10 22.14-146
Port Adel 3.7 5.9 7.11 8.13-61
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Great effort so far from the boys- scores are level ;D
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just do it for Richo !!! ... just win !
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Both those MCG games remind you of Duncan Kellaway. He kicked his first ever goal in 97 in the last quarter which sent his teammates and the crowd crazy and then in 98 he did his knee falling over Cambo.
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Williams wary of Richo's milestone
21 July 2007 Herald Sun/ Adelaide Advertiser
Michelangelo Rucci
PORT Adelaide coach Mark Williams is wary that the "Richo factor" tomorrow could cost his side dearly if Richmond rallies to make Matthew Richardson's 250th game more memorable.
The key forward is regarded something akin to the Tigers' soul and as a result it's hard to see Richmond playing as badly as it did last week against Hawthorn, when it lost by 53 points.
"You underestimate them at your peril," warned Williams of the Tigers, describing the team Port beat by 40 points in Round 7 as "pretty competitive in the past few weeks".
"There is no reason - and no way - we will do that."
Port's midfield has been hot in recent weeks, as evidenced by the Power's 91-point win against West Coast last week.
The win lifted Port to fifth and with home games against Melbourne and Carlton to come, Williams knows a top-four spot is still a chance.
But Richardson, in front of his fans at the MCG, could pose a major danger, particularly as Port's one perceived weakness is its key defenders.
Williams is likely to opt for either Toby Thurstans or the inexperienced Alipate Carlile or even travelling emergency Troy Chaplin on Richardson. A more likely option is to send in-form Chad Cornes into defence to counter him.
"If our players start reading too much of their own press, they will get a rude awakening. And they are fully aware of that," Williams said.
"The fact is, if you don't play well, you will get dropped. We have players - Nick Lower and Tom Logan - coming back from injury and playing well in the SANFL.
"And we have experienced campaigners in Josh Mahoney and Darryl Wakelin ready to come back in the group."
Richmond, which had assistant coach David King scout the Power last weekend, has made a public issue of dealing with Port's midfield.
"I read on-line," said Williams, "that (Richmond assistant coach) Brian Royal is talking about our onball brigade and how important they are. I'm sure they'll be trying to shut us down in that regard."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22107125%255E19742,00.html
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The Power have gone sooking to Geischen. Like we've got a charmed run from the umps against interstate sides at the 'G :help. What was it again 13-29 against the Eagles plus a fine to Sugar for complaining ::).
Port hoping for better run with umpires
July 21, 2007 - 3:17PM
Port Adelaide hope a recent visit by the AFL's umpires boss will pay dividends through a better run with free kicks against Richmond at the MCG on Sunday.
Full article at: http://news.realfooty.com.au/port-hoping-for-better-run-with-umpires/20073421-oyl.html
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Pathetic effort today.
Need cleanout out of players and coaches.
Some bright spark on here answer me this.
We get rid of David Rodan for nothing and 15 rounds later he is playing for a team where we play a defensive tag on him ::)
Yes Chris Newman was given tagging role on David Rodan.
Can tell you that Terry Wallace didnt like David Rodan from day 1 and know wants to pay his respect by playing a defensive tag on him
I think Wallace is starting to self explode
Wallace should be shown the door NOW
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Richmond is a basketcase Jacko. We are years away from having a decent side let alone a side that will challenge. I doubt young blokes like Deledio or Hughes or Edwards or Riewoldt will be sticking around long term if this poo continues. And if I was Richo and I didnt need the money from footy id retire coz playing with that group of blokes who are supposed to be kicking it to him properly must be a shocking experience.
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More like everyone was reactive and playing for themselves. If there were tags then hardly anyone followed instructions. Port players were on their own most of time.
The players were told before the game to play it tight and keep the game in the corridor. It'll probably be ugly but we wanted to shutdown Port's run at any cost. Joel was meant to mind Chad Corners, Sugar on Shaun Burgoyne (because he had shut him down twice before) and I've forgotten the 3rd lockdown role. So what happens - we end up in a 16 goal shootout in the first quarter ::). We then start following the gameplan in the second quarter and Hyde and Joel can't kick straightforward goals for AFL players on the run ::) while Port nailed their chances. After half-time it was just the Hawthorn game all over again.
Simply too many soft, skill-less, dumb and selfish players :banghead. Yep Jack the playing list needs a cleanout.
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Game Rankings -AFL site
P.Burgoyne 158
Ebert 146
C.Cornes 138
J.Bowden 129
S.Burgoyne 123
K.Cornes 113
Tredrea 112
Rodan 108
Foley 108
K.Johnson 98
Thurstans 98
King 95
Surjan 88
Pettifer 85
Newman 77
Cassisi 77
Edwards 77
Richardson 76
Motlop 76
Schulz 72
Tuck 72
Raines 72
Brown 67
Thursfield 66
Lonie 61
McGuane 61
Pearce 60
Polak 60
Pettigrew 57
J.Riewoldt 56
Chaplin 56
Boak 54
Tivendale 54
Brogan 51
Simmonds 51
Hyde 50
Pattison 49
Wilson 44
Westhoff 43
Carlile 41
Howat 35
Gray 31
Lade 29
Jackson 27
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Simply too many soft, skill-less, dumb and selfish players :banghead. Yep Jack the playing list needs a cleanout.
Actually that was the saddest thing today - the selfish efforts of some of our guys.
How Hyde and Bowden J, could miss those goals in the 2nd is beyond belief. :banghead
See those game ranking alot of the time are not worth a pinch of salt IMHO! Bowden J has a ranking of 129 because he got I think about 35-38 possession but the majority were worthless to the team so it means very little indeed
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Richo gave Joel the best spray you have seen when he missed that shot.
All is not well I think
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Richo gave Joel the best spray you have seen when he missed that shot.
All is not well I think
Could you blame him Jack ;D
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Pathetic effort today.
Need cleanout out of players and coaches.
Some bright spark on here answer me this.
We get rid of David Rodan for nothing and 15 rounds later he is playing for a team where we play a defensive tag on him ::)
Yes Chris Newman was given tagging role on David Rodan.
Can tell you that Terry Wallace didnt like David Rodan from day 1 and know wants to pay his respect by playing a defensive tag on him
I think Wallace is starting to self explode
Wallace should be shown the door NOW
what about richos pathetic 1st half, and the rest of the senior group. u cant just simply blame the coach
all have top go
starting from richo, joel, sugar, tuck, tiv hyde etc
about rodan, lets not judge him to quick, he was gr8 in his 1st yr for us, lets see how he travels next yr, my bet is he wont be seen after rnd 12 next yr
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No, couldnt blame him one bit.
Its was cruel what happend today.
Watch the oppositions delivery to Ebert and Motlop, well coached and players know what to do and where to kick when going inside F 50
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Thats why the coach has to go !
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Pathetic effort today.
Need cleanout out of players and coaches.
Some bright spark on here answer me this.
We get rid of David Rodan for nothing and 15 rounds later he is playing for a team where we play a defensive tag on him ::)
Yes Chris Newman was given tagging role on David Rodan.
Can tell you that Terry Wallace didnt like David Rodan from day 1 and know wants to pay his respect by playing a defensive tag on him
I think Wallace is starting to self explode
Wallace should be shown the door NOW
what about richos pathetic 1st half, and the rest of the senior group. u cant just simply blame the coach
all have top go
starting from richo, joel, sugar, tuck, tiv hyde etc
about rodan, lets not judge him to quick, he was gr8 in his 1st yr for us, lets see how he travels next yr, my bet is he wont be seen after rnd 12 next yr
Hey Xman,
what are your thoughts on Jason Dunstall and Brian Taylor?
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the coach canot get out theer and kick the ball 4 us, the coach does not have to go, the players who cant f kick the all must go
as for richo, he is the last person who should be spraying players 4 missing goals.
richo is a selfish has been , he even had a go at brownie
ffs is richo had half of brownies brains and desire to win, then richo maybe would be a champion
richo is full of his own air
and we wont go fwd with that serial tool of teh week in our team, his days are over.
when will terry and everyone realise that. jay schulz must be praying that richo gets injured cos richo cannot work with him up fwd. cant believe richo even fights his own teammates to get possession of the ball
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Pathetic effort today.
Need cleanout out of players and coaches.
Some bright spark on here answer me this.
We get rid of David Rodan for nothing and 15 rounds later he is playing for a team where we play a defensive tag on him ::)
Yes Chris Newman was given tagging role on David Rodan.
Can tell you that Terry Wallace didnt like David Rodan from day 1 and know wants to pay his respect by playing a defensive tag on him
I think Wallace is starting to self explode
Wallace should be shown the door NOW
what about richos pathetic 1st half, and the rest of the senior group. u cant just simply blame the coach
all have top go
starting from richo, joel, sugar, tuck, tiv hyde etc
about rodan, lets not judge him to quick, he was gr8 in his 1st yr for us, lets see how he travels next yr, my bet is he wont be seen after rnd 12 next yr
Hey Xman,
what are your thoughts on Jason Dunstall and Brian Taylor?
what have they got to do with anything?
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Pathetic effort today.
Need cleanout out of players and coaches.
Some bright spark on here answer me this.
We get rid of David Rodan for nothing and 15 rounds later he is playing for a team where we play a defensive tag on him ::)
Yes Chris Newman was given tagging role on David Rodan.
Can tell you that Terry Wallace didnt like David Rodan from day 1 and know wants to pay his respect by playing a defensive tag on him
I think Wallace is starting to self explode
Wallace should be shown the door NOW
STILL, no bright spark here can explain to me why Rodan was tagged ::)
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Pathetic effort today.
Need cleanout out of players and coaches.
Some bright spark on here answer me this.
We get rid of David Rodan for nothing and 15 rounds later he is playing for a team where we play a defensive tag on him ::)
Yes Chris Newman was given tagging role on David Rodan.
Can tell you that Terry Wallace didnt like David Rodan from day 1 and know wants to pay his respect by playing a defensive tag on him
I think Wallace is starting to self explode
Wallace should be shown the door NOW
what about richos pathetic 1st half, and the rest of the senior group. u cant just simply blame the coach
all have top go
starting from richo, joel, sugar, tuck, tiv hyde etc
about rodan, lets not judge him to quick, he was gr8 in his 1st yr for us, lets see how he travels next yr, my bet is he wont be seen after rnd 12 next yr
Hey Xman,
what are your thoughts on Jason Dunstall and Brian Taylor?
what have they got to do with anything?
Because their opinion of Richo is the total opposite to yours, they actually thought Richo worked really hard today and did pretty well.
Youre supposed to sit on yout arse at the footy not look through it.
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wow, u listen to MMM and believe all the bs they and the channel eddie mob bs about
i never said richo didnt work hard u fool
but once again, richo, 110% effort, 25% reward. he is a liability
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Richo gives 100%
The remainder of the team is debatable.
Dont reckon the captain gives anywhere near what he should
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Richo gives 100%
The remainder of the team is debatable.
Dont reckon the captain gives anywhere near what he should
the captain do we actually have one, the guy is insipid as a leader.
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For F**** sake. Someone has to say it.
Kane Johnson was pretty good today from what I saw. :shh
Used the ball well and got plenty of clearances, needs work on defensive side still however.
I know I've lined myself up for those who have him completely written off but its true.
Reality is its one game though and he's still been complete crap all year but he was good today, lets hope he keeps it up for his own future and this club.
NOTE: I HAD TO GO TO WORK SO I ONLY SAW THE FIRST HALF. Maybe he was complete crap after half time. ???
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For F**** sake. Someone has to say it.
Kane Johnson was pretty good today from what I saw. :shh
Used the ball well and got plenty of clearances, needs work on defensive side still however.
I know I've lined myself up for those who have him completely written off but its true.
Reality is its one game though and he's still been complete crap all year but he was good today, lets hope he keeps it up for his own future and this club.
NOTE: I HAD TO GO TO WORK SO I ONLY SAW THE FIRST HALF. Maybe he was complete crap after half time. ???
I actually thought his 1st half (in particular 1st qtr) was his best all season - certainly came to play. Got vbery little support in the 3rd qtr and Burgoyne ran amuck - couple of times Burgoyne got easy possesions because Johnson had to chase someone elses opponent
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Thought Burgoyne was super today, kicked 4 ?
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Thought Burgoyne was super today, kicked 4 ?
Yes Jack 4.1 but in the first half I tohught it was a break even result for us - he had 14 possies which is nothing for Burgoyne after half time though he cut us up
Cornes C was the one who killed us he was being tagged by Bowden j BTW :banghead
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:clapping :clapping :clapping Well TANKED again Tigers :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Well I didn't see the game but if Richo had a quiet first half, what was Jay Schultz doing?
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7 kicks 4 handballs for game.
I reckon he had 3 kicks in the first half..
Yeah and kicked 2 points for the game.
Hardly up to AFL standards
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every time jay went for the ball, richo fought with him 4 it and f the whole thing up
richo is not a team player
he should watch j.brown work with bradshaw
but richo is as dumb as they come, he still has no idea how to use his body in a marking contest without putting hands in the back
he may be a nice guy , but he dosnt have much grey matter. for someone with his size and experience u would think by know he could use his hips, side etc to use his body , but know hands in the back, and then sook to the umpire
u cant blame jay if richo gets in the way
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Blame the coaches perhaps
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every time jay went for the ball, richo fought with him 4 it and f the whole thing up
richo is not a team player
he should watch j.brown work with bradshaw
but richo is as dumb as they come, he still has no idea how to use his body in a marking contest without putting hands in the back
he may be a nice guy , but he dosnt have much grey matter. for someone with his size and experience u would think by know he could use his hips, side etc to use his body , but know hands in the back, and then sook to the umpire
u cant blame jay if richo gets in the way
You're right x.
Richo should be starting to give these guys some education, not tear strips off them whenever they get near his space.
Richo's problem is he thinks he is the forward line, and when someone kicks long and high into the 50, he doesn't think 'that might be for someone else, i'll run back to the square or set up for the next possible possession' - Richo thinks 'that's for me, it's not coming towards me, but that kick was meant for me, i'll fly for it, and yell at whoever is in my way'.
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Blame the coaches perhaps
thats the lamest excuse
the coaches go out and play do they
ok lets blame the coach
so if we take that mentality, why teh f woudl u want sheedy at the rfc, his coaching record over the past 3 yrs has been worse that terry's and sheedy has had a much more experienced list to work with
seen the bombers play lately, not very good at all, must be the dud coach they have
then u want matty knights to coach us, what teh f has he achieved as a coach. i love matty but he is no coach
pagan , the poor bas tard, gr8 coach, sh it list, u cant blame him and he is a coach who coaches with ur so valued passion!
neil daniher gr8 coach, not his fault melb are sh it!
its too damn easy to blame the coach
jack , u should know better, its about time the fricken players started taking ownnership and blame for their pathetic displays
its to easy to keep blaming the coach, unless u have a gripe and an agenda ::)
when will the players finally stand up and take ownership
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every time jay went for the ball, richo fought with him 4 it and f the whole thing up
richo is not a team player
he should watch j.brown work with bradshaw
but richo is as dumb as they come, he still has no idea how to use his body in a marking contest without putting hands in the back
he may be a nice guy , but he dosnt have much grey matter. for someone with his size and experience u would think by know he could use his hips, side etc to use his body , but know hands in the back, and then sook to the umpire
u cant blame jay if richo gets in the way
You're right x.
Richo should be starting to give these guys some education, not tear strips off them whenever they get near his space.
Richo's problem is he thinks he is the forward line, and when someone kicks long and high into the 50, he doesn't think 'that might be for someone else, i'll run back to the square or set up for the next possible possession' - Richo thinks 'that's for me, it's not coming towards me, but that kick was meant for me, i'll fly for it, and yell at whoever is in my way'.
wayne , looks like i found someone who sees it the way ity is and isnt clouded by emotions or gets juicy over richo
but be careful, u may be referred to a stupid insignificant idiot because u r brave enough to see how it really is.
our fwd line plays better without richo, we have seen it time and time again. some fools think that because when richo isnt there we are not richo conscious, well we never are richo conscious.
its not the teams fault richo goes for every ball in "his" fwd liine and destroys it for team mates and the team.
then when richo isnt used as the option, he spits thr ficken dummy and has a go at his teammates
this is the tool many say should be captain ffs
watch his first half yesterday esp the 1st quarter, our best quarter for the yr and richo spat the dummy each time the ball went fwd and never went through him! bloody sook.
then later on in the day, rich has a fit with browny and gets in browns way! richo is lucky and should be blessed cos browny is teh one that makes richo look good
brown is the champion, brown is the captain, not sookycho
richo give it up
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Well I didn't see the game but if Richo had a quiet first half, what was Jay Schultz doing?
Jay was too busy getting cleaned up by Richo every time he went to take a mark.
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Well I didn't see the game but if Richo had a quiet first half, what was Jay Schultz doing?
Jay was too busy getting cleaned up by Richo every time he went to take a mark.
im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed that1
i thought i may have been hallucinating yesterday cos many here reckon richo played a gem of a game and is totally the greatest thing ever,
richo is a liablity, while he keeps playing we wont go anywhere
he was a champion, he is now a self absorbed has been
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Well I didn't see the game but if Richo had a quiet first half, what was Jay Schultz doing?
Jay was too busy getting cleaned up by Richo every time he went to take a mark.
im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed that1
i thought i may have been hallucinating yesterday cos many here reckon richo played a gem of a game and is totally the greatest thing ever,
richo is a liablity, while he keeps playing we wont go anywhere
he was a champion, he is now a self absorbed has been
I wouldnt say he's a "has-been" X, he still is clearly a man with so much to offer but he is far too self-absorbed on the field and thinks he is the forward line and the rest can get the scraps, it's time Richo learns to share now we have some real forward potential finally coming through.
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would it not be easy if Shultz & ReWoldt took there players away from Richo
if this was to happen it would leave Richo with a 1 vs 1 contest in goal
if the op' players decided to gang Richo up then we have some players loose to mark the ball uncontested duh gee thats easy to work out
none of these players are doing this & everyone is blaming Richo for not working as a team player
Richmond aint meant to win otherwise Brown would be the go to option
Do our forward know how to shake players or only know how to shake their dicks
Seriouly Cleve Hughes at CHF would be my prefered 1st option the boy can take a strong mark & kicks long & straight
If Richmond aint tankers then Wallace can't coach these players
Wallace is frail not scarey looky & sounds gay l bet the players snicker when his talking bs to them
If this is the case after 2008 season the door should be open for a new coach
Gary Ayres was my prefered option for coach
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Well I didn't see the game but if Richo had a quiet first half, what was Jay Schultz doing?
Jay was too busy getting cleaned up by Richo every time he went to take a mark.
im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed that1
i thought i may have been hallucinating yesterday cos many here reckon richo played a gem of a game and is totally the greatest thing ever,
richo is a liablity, while he keeps playing we wont go anywhere
he was a champion, he is now a self absorbed has been
I wouldnt say he's a "has-been" X, he still is clearly a man with so much to offer but he is far too self-absorbed on the field and thinks he is the forward line and the rest can get the scraps, it's time Richo learns to share now we have some real forward potential finally coming through.
he is a has been, he is half the player he once was, gardly wins contested marks anymore and rarell kicks more than 3 or 4 goals a game
has been. seen him this yr lose most one on contests , watching croad flog him last week in this area proved this, croad used to be richos bunny, but croad owned richo last week.
we have to stop thinking with our hearts and be business like and cold. richo is half the man he was , he is not a team player he is not even a leader.
its time he moved on
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Gary Ayres was my prefered option for coach
ur kidding arent u
he had the luxuray of coaching 2 ready made teams by blight and f both up, forget it
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Gary Ayres was my prefered option for coach
ur kidding arent u
he had the luxuray of coaching 2 ready made teams by blight and f both up, forget it
Geez, Garry Ayers would be far worse. Keep Terry instead of that Spud.
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we need to find a 40 year old david parkin or kevin sheedy ...thats the type of coach we need.
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Gary Ayres was my prefered option for coach
ur kidding arent u
he had the luxuray of coaching 2 ready made teams by blight and f both up, forget it
:rollin
l knew you come biting at that X ;D no his a dick wouldn't want him near the club his days are over coaching
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STILL, no bright spark here can explain to me why Rodan was tagged ::)
There were two reasons why he tagged Rodan.
One - according to interview before the game by Assistant Coach Mathew Primus, Rodan would be in their top three B&F.
Two - he didn't want to look bad about letting him go.
I'll leave it yo you which one was uppermost in his thinking ;)