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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Judge Roughneck on November 27, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
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:bow :bow
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what a joke
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His profile is up on the website..... :cheers
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Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaa
Looking for elite kicks and we get 49%
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Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaa
Looking for elite kicks and we get 49%
Don't worry someone had a strong hunch. :shh
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His profile is up on the website..... :cheers
Paste the link here
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Don't quote me on it.
I have a strong hunch
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@corey_weekes - "thoughts on Ellis over lever, laverde, weller or even blakley? I dont see the "reported" tigers love for ellis."
Brett Anderson - "It will be ellis mate"
https://twitter.com/BrettAndersonIF/status/537796240042242048
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If they pick a kid at 12 with 49% kicking efficiency and a stuffed foot then theres nothing more to say other than good luck because we will never be any good as a football club. Its just amateur hour at Richmond if they start drafting guys with those stats over the last 12 months. LOL.
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Not just yhat , but every wanker new reporter knows it a week before
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:bow :bow
Ban this idiot until he finds some new material, #gutfull
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excuse my ignorance but who is Mr 49%
the stats I see for Ellis are higher than that...
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:bow :bow
Ban this idiot until he finds some new material, #gutfull
:shh
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:shh
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49%. great.
Wtf is going on
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51% sounds better
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excuse my ignorance but who is Mr 49%
the stats I see for Ellis are higher than that...
Which Ellis?
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:shh
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It's official!
Welcome to Tigerland, Corey
:)
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Bastard
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Has any player for Richmond won the title of whipping boy quicker than this lad?
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Mr 49%. :bow
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Bastard
Unfair.
It's not his fault we picked him.
I hope he makes us eat our words.
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With Laverde, Langford, Lever, Weller & Durdin all still on the board.
Oh Francis McGoo you've done it again.....
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Big Cozza :clapping
Sir Francis has opposition recruiters checking their notes how this one slipped through :shh
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Laverde :facepalm
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Pick 12 Corey Ellis (Richmond)
Player bio
Former club: Western Jets
Age: 18
Height: 185cm
Weight: 76kg
Position: Midfielder
2014 Statistics
Games: 5
Goals: 2
Avg Kicks: 7.4
Avg Marks: 3.2
Avg Hballs: 6.2
Left-footed medium midfielder who is a star at the clearances with his clean hands and makes quick and correct decisions. Uses the ball well by hand and foot and has good game sense. Averaged 14 disposals and four tackles in his five matches in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Missed the late part of the season with a foot injury, which forced him out of testing at the NAB AFL Draft Combine.
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=696654
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His nickname was Rolls Royce. I hope he plays like one and not a Kia. :pray
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With Laverde, Langford, Lever, Weller & Durdin all still on the board
Oh Francis McGoo you've done it again.....
they can all go and eff themselves at Punt Road. wasted a first round pick on kid who kicks the footy at 49% and had a stuffed foot. what a joke of a club the RFC is. To all the recruiting team at RFC ... do us a favor and go and get stuffed.
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With Laverde, Langford, Weller & Durdin all still on the board
Oh Francis McGoo you've done it again.....
stuff me, the kid hasn't even played a game yet.
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Laverde :facepalm
its a disgrace what they've done today.
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Francis Jackson - the most popular recruiter at 17 clubs.
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Drugs cheats did good
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With Laverde, Langford, Lever, Weller & Durdin all still on the board
Oh Francis McGoo you've done it again.....
they can all go and eff themselves at Punt Road. wasted a first round pick on kid who kicks the footy at 49% and had a stuffed foot. what a joke of a club the RFC is. To all the recruiting team at RFC ... do us a favor and go and get stuffed.
Pick 1 - Mr 49%
pick 2- mr 69kg
Wot the hell is going on
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Pick 1 - Mr 49%
pick 2- mr 69kg
Wot the hell is going on
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iGOWDe4H8Xk/hqdefault.jpg)
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whats happened is they outsmarted themselves and lets just leave it at that.
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Looks good to me based on the website footage. Go have a cold shower you blokes
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whats happened is they outsmarted themselves and lets just leave it at that.
Like FJ does every year - duh I'm da master recruiter, dey won't suspect a fing hur hur hur....
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My tummy told me he's great
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Are we aware his kicking efficiency was 73% last season? Injury is a concern but his footage looks solid.
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Looks good to me based on the website footage. Go have a cold shower you blokes
At least I'd get wet standing still. Menadue on the other hand....
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Some of you posters on here are pathetic and just keyboard warriors. Kid hasn't even played a game. Let him develop and work hard and see what comes of it, its incredible how irritated some people get with the club and recruitment staff on decisions only they have the expertise, stats and facts to make. We seen today with the tragic death of a young cricketer in Phil Hughes not being able to show more of what he has to the rest of us the world how tragic it can be. Just let the kids play first bloody hell!
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Let's face it, if Frankie Jackson fell into a barrel of nipples he'd come out sucking his thumbs.
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I've ripped up my membership
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I've ripped up my membership
Sweet
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I've ripped up my membership
Im serious when I say this but I wont be a member in 2015. I will lose gold membership status but in all honesty I cant put money into the club when they go and do what they've done tonight. I wont be contributing the future fund or buy any merchandise. Its amateur hour up at the gold coast for us.
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Some of you posters on here are pathetic and just keyboard warriors. Kid hasn't even played a game. Let him develop and work hard and see what comes of it, its incredible how irritated some people get with the club and recruitment staff on decisions only they have the expertise, stats and facts to make. We seen today with the tragic death of a young cricketer in Phil Hughes not being able to show more of what he has to the rest of us the world how tragic it can be. Just let the kids play first bloody hell!
Poor form bringing Hughes into this thread to prove a point.
You're a disgrace mate
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Fair enough, your money
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51% sounds better
and when he reaches that, the club will think it as a win.
*backslaps and bum pinches*
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Some of you posters on here are pathetic and just keyboard warriors. Kid hasn't even played a game. Let him develop and work hard and see what comes of it, its incredible how irritated some people get with the club and recruitment staff on decisions only they have the expertise, stats and facts to make. We seen today with the tragic death of a young cricketer in Phil Hughes not being able to show more of what he has to the rest of us the world how tragic it can be. Just let the kids play first bloody hell!
Poor form bringing Hughes into this thread to prove a point.
You're a disgrace mate
yes he is but the club apologists will be out in force trying to vindicate what has happened tonight.
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Some of you posters on here are pathetic and just keyboard warriors. Kid hasn't even played a game. Let him develop and work hard and see what comes of it, its incredible how irritated some people get with the club and recruitment staff on decisions only they have the expertise, stats and facts to make. We seen today with the tragic death of a young cricketer in Phil Hughes not being able to show more of what he has to the rest of us the world how tragic it can be. Just let the kids play first bloody hell!
LOL
Hughes died so its OK to pick idiots
Wtf man
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51% sounds better
and when he reaches that, the club will think it as a win.
*backslaps and bum pinches*
Sleeping well at night doing sweet eff all on the gravy train of our membership money
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These kids love footy and only want a chance and are getting knocked already by posters before even starting. My example was purely to see how life can be cut short from something you love and should encourage kids to make the most of it. If all you got from my post was that, your clearly are the disgrace champ.
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You know you've picked a dud when everyone is more excited over the second pick
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Welcome to the club Corey. I hope you are able to be part of our success.
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Some of you posters on here are pathetic and just keyboard warriors. Kid hasn't even played a game. Let him develop and work hard and see what comes of it, its incredible how irritated some people get with the club and recruitment staff on decisions only they have the expertise, stats and facts to make. We seen today with the tragic death of a young cricketer in Phil Hughes not being able to show more of what he has to the rest of us the world how tragic it can be. Just let the kids play first bloody hell!
Poor form bringing Hughes into this thread to prove a point.
You're a disgrace mate
Don't let your sook get in the way of a valid point
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These kids love footy and only want a chance and are getting knocked already by posters before even starting. My example was purely to see how life can be cut short from something you love and should encourage kids to make the most of it. If all you got from my post was that, your clearly are the disgrace champ.
Mate I don't GAF if life is long or short
There are 18 clubs and 1 flag a year
We have to be ruthless, professional, not dam charity
Shove the life is amazing crap up your BIM please
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I hope for all our sakes he becomes a star but just taking another look at his highlights package again it's all pretty standard stuff. Seems a pretty good kick with nice hands but IMO we could have got that and plenty more with others.
Another really SAFE pick IMO.
Must admit I was so pumped for tonight but feel massively flat now.
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I'm ok with this pick. Come at me beetches.
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I'm ok with this pick. Come at me beetches.
Boooooooo you suck
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These kids love footy and only want a chance and are getting knocked already by posters before even starting. My example was purely to see how life can be cut short from something you love and should encourage kids to make the most of it. If all you got from my post was that, your clearly are the disgrace champ.
Welcome to OER!
Now, its best they get used to it early, it is character building. It is no good having mad skills like Bruce Lee if you weigh as much as a house cat for example or float around the ground if you then kick like you got saturday night palsy. Don't worry we will get em on the Relton diet and Richo is gonna do some kicking practice with them.
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These kids love footy
so do we.
We were in Baghdad when they were in their Dads bags
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These kids love footy and only want a chance and are getting knocked already by posters before even starting. My example was purely to see how life can be cut short from something you love and should encourage kids to make the most of it. If all you got from my post was that, your clearly are the disgrace champ.
(http://mcgarnagle.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hooray.png)
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These kids love footy and only want a chance and are getting knocked already by posters before even starting. My example was purely to see how life can be cut short from something you love and should encourage kids to make the most of it. If all you got from my post was that, your clearly are the disgrace champ.
(http://mcgarnagle.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hooray.png)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--baTZya7k--/v6wxyozyyl2mqf3zmtyb.jpg)
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Must something wrong with me
Prepared to give the kid a chance.
Pretty disappointed with some comments here.
Don't like the selection whack the recruiters but don't bag the kid, he deserves our support.
He is now a Tiger and right now that's what we should focus on IMVHO
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These kids love footy and only want a chance and are getting knocked already by posters before even starting. My example was purely to see how life can be cut short from something you love and should encourage kids to make the most of it. If all you got from my post was that, your clearly are the disgrace champ.
(http://mcgarnagle.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hooray.png)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--baTZya7k--/v6wxyozyyl2mqf3zmtyb.jpg)
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Wp
A) there are things wrong with
B)i i highly doubt abyone has a personal dislike against the kid. Bagging him is a easy method indirectly to bag the recruit team and the club.
I though t smart bloke like you wouldn't Ned that spelled out (Albert poorly
It is not clear Richmond fans would obvious want Richmond players to be make it and be good?
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Must something wrong with me
Prepared to give the kid a chance.
Pretty disappointed with some comments here.
Don't like the selection whack the recruiters but don't bag the kid, he deserves our support.
He is now a Tiger and right now that's what we should focus on IMVHO
Spot on.
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Solid pick and he is a very good player :clapping
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Club saw him slip over in his highlight reel and their eyes lit up. Perfect fit for the team
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Must something wrong with me
Prepared to give the kid a chance.
Pretty disappointed with some comments here.
Don't like the selection whack the recruiters but don't bag the kid, he deserves our support.
He is now a Tiger and right now that's what we should focus on IMVHO
Jackson's exactly who I'm blaming.....good luck to all these kids and desperately hope they prove us wrong.
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Must something wrong with me
Prepared to give the kid a chance.
Pretty disappointed with some comments here.
Don't like the selection whack the recruiters but don't bag the kid, he deserves our support.
He is now a Tiger and right now that's what we should focus on IMVHO
Jackson's exactly who I'm blaming.....good luck to all these kids and desperately hope they prove us wrong.
Exactly.
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x3
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2014 Draft, pick 12: Corey Ellis
richmondfc.com.au
November 27, 2014 7:35 PM
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-11-27/danny-yeung-1
Richmond has selected Western Jets midfielder Corey Ellis with its first pick (selection 12) in the 2014 National Draft.
The 184cm, 76cm 18-year-old represented Vic Metro at the 2014 National Championships, where he averaged 14 disposals and four tackles per game.
His standout performance was a 21-disposal, seven-mark game against Western Australia.
While playing for the Jets in the TAC Cup this season, he averaged 22 disposals, 3.5 tackles and five clearances per game.
Ellis suffered a foot injury late in the 2014 season, causing him to miss the AFL Combine, however Richmond’s recruiters saw enough to like about the smooth-moving left footer.
“Corey is a classy midfielder, who is one of the best kicks and decision makers in the draft,” said Richmond Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson.
“He is a tough competitor with good endurance, and is rarely rushed with his disposal, even when in traffic.
“He is outstanding at creating offence and scoring opportunities for his team.
“Corey is still a little light, but has all the attributes to develop into a quality inside midfielder at AFL level.”
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Media/Images/334295-tlsnewsportrait.jpg)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-27/2014-draft-pick-12-corey-ellis
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X4
But I have enough blam for hardwick too
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It is not clear Richmond fans would obvious want Richmond players to be make it and be good?
If you want him to make it and be good why start a thread called "Welcome to Richmond Mr 49%"?
That's bagging not hoping he makes it
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No Einstein
It's bagging rfc the taking him at 12, specifically jacko
Of course I hope he wins 17 brownlows.
Conca, too
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No Einstein
It's bagging rfc the taking him at 12, specifically jacko
Of course I hope he wins 17 brownlows.
Conca, too
Then bag the club, Frank, Blair whoever you want not kid.
You've belittled the kid by calling him "Mr 49%".
He deserves better than that - a lot better
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just looked at his supposedly best highlights video ... good luck to the young man, its not his fault we picked him. wish him all the best I would have picked at least 6 players who were picked directly after him If I had the chance.
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No Einstein
It's bagging rfc the taking him at 12, specifically jacko
Of course I hope he wins 17 brownlows.
Conca, too
Then bag the club, Frank, Blair whoever you want not kid.
You've belittled the kid by calling him "Mr 49%".
He deserves better than that - a lot better
he should have hit a target , more then once out of everythree kicks then
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No Einstein
It's bagging rfc the taking him at 12, specifically jacko
Of course I hope he wins 17 brownlows.
Conca, too
Then bag the club, Frank, Blair whoever you want not kid.
You've belittled the kid by calling him "Mr 49%".
He deserves better than that - a lot better
I think the Judge was using the title not to bag the kid, but to point out the recruiters are once again not following their own public statements re foot skills.
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stuff me, I can't believe the constant bagging of these recruits. Ffs, get on board and support them, at least let them have one game before you start.
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Would have preferred leverde and lever before him imho but should be in our round 1 side improving us immediately. Does have a great awareness inside, will be a good tandem with Miles and give Cotch a much needed chop out. Good luck Corey
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I think the Judge was using the title not to bag the kid, but to point out the recruiters are once again not following their own public statements re foot skills.
Deliberate or not, he has bagged the kid by calling him Mr 49%, he dragged the kid into it and he deserve our support not belittling
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agree willyp, gone too far
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I shall commit suicide as my Samurai forefathers have done before me to regain honour
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Would have preferred leverde and lever before him imho but should be in our round 1 side improving us immediately. Does have a great awareness inside, will be a good tandem with Miles and give Cotch a much needed chop out. Good luck Corey
Pretty much where I sit, TM. Specialist inside mid and extractor, I'm ok with this as a targeted selection for need if it improves our outside game and frees up our bluechip players.
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I shall commit suicide as my Samurai forefathers have done before me to regain honour
Meanwhile, in the shadow of your passing, your critics will again clap off the players off the ground in 2015 when they put in another effort like the Hafey tribute game against Melbourne.
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Well done to Corey Ellis getting drafted as our first round pick. He looks a good solid kick and once he gets used to the pace of the game he should be able to hone that skill even further.
I agree with the comments that some of the posts on this thread have been appalling namely one Mr Bentleigh Biscuit and another Mr Rampaging Tiger. Pull your heads in. The decision has been made, this guy is playing for Richmond, he needs to be good, and he damn well will be!
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Everybody love everybody pls
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Well done to Corey Ellis getting drafted as our first round pick. He looks a good solid kick and once he gets used to the pace of the game he should be able to hone that skill even further.
I agree with the comments that some of the posts on this thread have been appalling namely one Mr Bentleigh Biscuit and another Mr Rampaging Tiger. Pull your heads in. The decision has been made, this guy is playing for Richmond, he needs to be good, and he damn well will be!
were my comments ok? I hope I didn't go too far. Sometimes I get caught up in the moment.
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......this guy is playing for Richmond, he needs to be good, and he damn well will be!
And the happy parade stretches onwards.....it's infectious!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MVt9kn5N67g/UOYNEka9JAI/AAAAAAAAGuM/8oPNn-il8WU/s1600/happy2.jpg)
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Well done to Corey Ellis getting drafted as our first round pick. He looks a good solid kick and once he gets used to the pace of the game he should be able to hone that skill even further.
I agree with the comments that some of the posts on this thread have been appalling namely one Mr Bentleigh Biscuit and another Mr Rampaging Tiger. Pull your heads in. The decision has been made, this guy is playing for Richmond, he needs to be good, and he damn well will be!
:clapping :clapping
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Owl, have loved your first 3539 posts, and look forward to your next 3539.
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Thanks man
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I shall commit suicide as my Samurai forefathers have done before me to regain honour
that would be good hurry up. na just playin. but a serious question.
have you even seen this kid play judge.
me i have about 6 i would have taken in front of corey but i will not bag him not until we see what we have at the level. we all have kids we like better than others. it doesnt mean we are right. only way to judge ellis is on HIS PERFORMANCES FROM HERE ON IN. ATM francis jacksons picks are all spot on until PROVEN otherwise.
does anyone else here like the upside connor menadue represents. again i had about 3 i would have taken in front of connor but ffs this is a good pick.
while ellis is not my cup of tea and atm im alittle disappointed we didnt take others i think for once francis has done okay with his other picks.
time will tell and in fairness we need to give these picks a chance to work out.
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Well done to Corey Ellis getting drafted as our first round pick. He looks a good solid kick and once he gets used to the pace of the game he should be able to hone that skill even further.
I agree with the comments that some of the posts on this thread have been appalling namely one Mr Bentleigh Biscuit and another Mr Rampaging Tiger. Pull your heads in. The decision has been made, this guy is playing for Richmond, he needs to be good, and he damn well will be!
:clapping :clapping
Well after today Ill be disappearing all together of this site because I wont be a member next year nor will I be contributing any more money to the club. That being the case I don't feel its right for me to comment about the club going forward. I personally don't have a beef with the kid, my beef is with the club and what they did tonight as well as a long term beef with the club about the direction of the club. So with that being said I want to thank you all for all the years of entertainment on here, but Richmond FC no longer provides enjoyment for me and I don't support the administration of the club or how the club is moving forward. Beyond that I wish all of you and all the players the best and goodluck to you all.
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Don't be a pussy ramps, they havn't had chance yet.
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I shall commit suicide as my Samurai forefathers have done before me to regain honour
that would be good hurry up. na just playin. but a serious question.
have you even seen this kid play judge.
me i have about 6 i would have taken in front of corey but i will not bag him not until we see what we have at the level. we all have kids we like better than others. it doesnt mean we are right. only way to judge ellis is on HIS PERFORMANCES FROM HERE ON IN. ATM francis jacksons picks are all spot on until PROVEN otherwise.
does anyone else here like the upside connor menadue represents. again i had about 3 i would have taken in front of connor but ffs this is a good pick.
while ellis is not my cup of tea and atm im alittle disappointed we didnt take others i think for once francis has done okay with his other picks.
time will tell and in fairness we need to give these picks a chance to work out.
I actually quite like what I read of Mr.49%
He sounds a player. Tidy and safe will fit in good
I am just spooked by the clubs track record . and the concern there are superior options
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Would have preferred leverde and lever before him imho but should be in our round 1 side improving us immediately. Does have a great awareness inside, will be a good tandem with Miles and give Cotch a much needed chop out. Good luck Corey
Yep. I wanted Duggan but when I think about it, at least Ellis has size and ball winning ability. Nice kicking action too.
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I don't think he looks slow as I've seen a couple suggest. The more I watch his highlights the more he just looks composed in traffic instead of rushing and looking chaotic.
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I really like the look of this kid. We are building a fantastic core of true footballers.
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Mr 49%
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I think the Judge was using the title not to bag the kid, but to point out the recruiters are once again not following their own public statements re foot skills.
Deliberate or not, he has bagged the kid by calling him Mr 49%, he dragged the kid into it and he deserve our support not belittling
Well if he scored 49% he is Mr 49% inmho&v
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A safe as houses pick, is good at everything , will be the missing link in our midfield pack that builds a bridge to premiership mountain ...shrewd selection by the Tigers :shh
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Vic Metro coach David Flood rates Ellis, listed at 186cm and 76kg, as an “unbelievably strong one-on-one mark for a kid of his size”.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/western-jets-draft-prospect-corey-ellis-letting-his-footy-do-the-talking/story-fngnvog3-1227047902294
i like that
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Pathetic thread really, no need for it.
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Corey Ellis (Western Jets)
Height: 185 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Position: Midfielder/utility
Strengths: Kicking, vision, tackling
:clapping
Areas needing improvement: Consistency on the big stage, finding the football
Player comparison: Steele Sidebottom
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Pathetic thread really, no need for it.
gee whiz.
i i did not have to listen to the crying about franklin v tambling for a decade from some then perhaps the wider richmond community would have a point.
or fiona v pav.
or kaptian krisy newman weekly
why is mr 49% special? cause he hasn't stuffed up yet?
Pathetic yes, but not the only one ;)
just to clarify ive got nothing against mr forty nine percent. i hope he is a ledghend at the yellow and black. my beef is with the club and those who make these decisions. praying to be wrong
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how come all the articles say this kid can play when he is clearly a dud?
is everyone in on the conspiracy with the club over this?
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how come all the articles say this kid can play when he is clearly a dud?
is everyone in on the conspiracy with the club over this?
Add that to the fact our recruiters rated him as the best kick in the draft and..pfft...he should just pack up and head to the scrap yard.
REPORT CARD: HOW DID YOUR CLUB FARE?
Ellis suffered a stress fracture in his foot this season but will be fit for the pre-season.
“We rated him as the best kick in the draft — he has outstanding composure and is a brilliant decision-maker,” recruiting boss Francis Jackson told the Herald Sun.
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Emma Quayle (whose opinion is highly regarded by many) reckons he is a great pick for us
Good enough for me
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Emma Quayle (whose opinion is highly regarded by many) reckons he is a great pick for us
Good enough for me
I heart Emma
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Emma Quayle (whose opinion is highly regarded by many) reckons he is a great pick for us
Good enough for me
dont rate yer at all
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how come all the articles say this kid can play when he is clearly a dud?
is everyone in on the conspiracy with the club over this?
Add that to the fact our recruiters rated him as the best kick in the draft and..pfft...he should just pack up and head to the scrap yard.
REPORT CARD: HOW DID YOUR CLUB FARE?
Ellis suffered a stress fracture in his foot this season but will be fit for the pre-season.
“We rated him as the best kick in the draft — he has outstanding composure and is a brilliant decision-maker,” recruiting boss Francis Jackson told the Herald Sun.
Adelaide got the best kick in the draft with pick 35.
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how come all the articles say this kid can play when he is clearly a dud?
is everyone in on the conspiracy with the club over this?
Add that to the fact our recruiters rated him as the best kick in the draft and..pfft...he should just pack up and head to the scrap yard.
REPORT CARD: HOW DID YOUR CLUB FARE?
Ellis suffered a stress fracture in his foot this season but will be fit for the pre-season.
“We rated him as the best kick in the draft — he has outstanding composure and is a brilliant decision-maker,” recruiting boss Francis Jackson told the Herald Sun.
Adelaide got the best kick in the draft with pick 35.
Probably, as far as they were concerned.
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how come all the articles say this kid can play when he is clearly a dud?
is everyone in on the conspiracy with the club over this?
Add that to the fact our recruiters rated him as the best kick in the draft and..pfft...he should just pack up and head to the scrap yard.
REPORT CARD: HOW DID YOUR CLUB FARE?
Ellis suffered a stress fracture in his foot this season but will be fit for the pre-season.
“We rated him as the best kick in the draft — he has outstanding composure and is a brilliant decision-maker,” recruiting boss Francis Jackson told the Herald Sun.
FJ rated Conca a good kick too WA Tiger- enough said!
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Emma Quayle (whose opinion is highly regarded by many) reckons he is a great pick for us
Good enough for me
I heart Emma
I think you are confusing love for a mans biological needs. It's not good and can only end in trouble
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I personally think the thread title and op is just the work of poo. It's perfect fair and reasonable to have a view - the reality there is a case for and against almost all the time on draft night but the ways it's written is ordinary. Its just unnecessary to write in the way about a kid whose just had probably the best night of his life. Like it or not a 17 yo might read this forum to see how posters view his being drafted to the club and I reckon your thread would've taken the gloss off it. It's 5h1te form.
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I personally think the thread title and op is just the work of poo. It's perfect fair and reasonable to have a view - the reality there is a case for and against almost all the time on draft night but the ways it's written is ordinary. Its just unnecessary to write in the way about a kid whose just had probably the best night of his life. Like it or not a 17 yo might read this forum to see how posters view his being drafted to the club and I reckon your thread would've taken the gloss off it. It's pooe form.
I reckon if he did he would just go "what a bunch of internet numpties"
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Look at the video highlights and then pass judgement
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I personally think the thread title and op is just the work of poo. It's perfect fair and reasonable to have a view - the reality there is a case for and against almost all the time on draft night but the ways it's written is ordinary. Its just unnecessary to write in the way about a kid whose just had probably the best night of his life. Like it or not a 17 yo might read this forum to see how posters view his being drafted to the club and I reckon your thread would've taken the gloss off it. It's pooe form.
Want a cuddle?
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If only he could have got one more percent, it would have made the world of difference
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I personally think the thread title and op is just the work of poo. It's perfect fair and reasonable to have a view - the reality there is a case for and against almost all the time on draft night but the ways it's written is ordinary. Its just unnecessary to write in the way about a kid whose just had probably the best night of his life. Like it or not a 17 yo might read this forum to see how posters view his being drafted to the club and I reckon your thread would've taken the gloss off it. It's pooe form.
Want a cuddle?
You'd probably sexually harass me. No. If you can't see the difference between having a fair crack vs making an arse of yourself then film yourself in public and I'll buy some popcorn
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75 kilos ?
His legs would weigh 50.
Backflipping and getting on board.
Good bod for modern football and @ 18 will be a strong lad in a couple of years.
Looks to be already.
Still not a fan of David Bourke Mk II
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I personally think the thread title and op is just the work of poo. It's perfect fair and reasonable to have a view - the reality there is a case for and against almost all the time on draft night but the ways it's written is ordinary. Its just unnecessary to write in the way about a kid whose just had probably the best night of his life. Like it or not a 17 yo might read this forum to see how posters view his being drafted to the club and I reckon your thread would've taken the gloss off it. It's pooe form.
Want a cuddle?
You'd probably sexually harass me. No. If you can't see the difference between having a fair crack vs making an arse of yourself then film yourself in public and I'll buy some popcorn
I nae claim to not be an ass, tbh. If the kid is going to break me mentality cause he reads non loving comment on the net then he is dammed before he starts.
Beats the life is special / the club is infallible circle jerk
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A friend of mine at work is mates with one of the recruiters at Hawthorn. He asked about Ellis and the Hawthorn guy thought it was a good pick. They also rated Ellis better than Duggan, Ahern and Weller. Some of the crap about Ellis in this thread is so stupid.
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Yeah but they draft people with meth addictions
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I personally think the thread title and op is just the work of poo. It's perfect fair and reasonable to have a view - the reality there is a case for and against almost all the time on draft night but the ways it's written is ordinary. Its just unnecessary to write in the way about a kid whose just had probably the best night of his life. Like it or not a 17 yo might read this forum to see how posters view his being drafted to the club and I reckon your thread would've taken the gloss off it. It's pooe form.
Want a cuddle?
You'd probably sexually harass me. No. If you can't see the difference between having a fair crack vs making an arse of yourself then film yourself in public and I'll buy some popcorn
I nae claim to not be an ass, tbh. If the kid is going to break me mentality cause he reads non loving comment on the net then he is dammed before he starts.
Beats the life is special / the club is infallible circle jerk
I'm not saying don't be hard or even don't be harsh. Just think about it. You being a .... Well you know what I mean. The kid deserves a few minutes to celebrate being drafted AND the benefit of the doubt without xxxxx like you trying to tear him down before he's even pulled on a jumper. Stop behaving like a magpie supporter joffa
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AFL Draft 2014: Corey Ellis, Richmond’s top pick, may require foot surgery
Michael Warner
Herald Sun
November 28, 2014 6:00PM
RICHMOND concedes its top draft pick, Western Jets midfielder Corey Ellis, could require minor surgery on his injured right foot.
Ellis, taken at pick 12 by the Tigers in Thursday night’s draft, suffered a stress fracture at the end of the TAC Cup season and missed the AFL draft combine.
Rival clubs on Friday agreed Ellis, 18, was among the best kicks in this year’s draft pool but said they baulked at recruiting him because of the injury.
Collingwood’s top draft pick from last year, Matt Scharenberg, had more serious bone-stress reactions in both feet and required surgery last February that ended his season.
But the Tigers say Ellis is back running and set to join pre-season training at Punt Rd.
They said minor surgery was an option if the foot flared again but it would not sideline him for an extended period.
“We were well aware he had a metatarsal issue that kept him out of the AFL Combine,” Richmond football boss Dan Richardson said.
“We will obviously monitor him but, as it stands, he is back running and looking forward to the pre-season.
“If any corrective procedure was ever required it wouldn’t have any long-term implications at all.
“We are thrilled to have a player of his quality at our club.”
The Tigers say Ellis, pick 33 Connor Menadue and pick 52 Nathan Drummond will help add depth to a midfield that can challenge the AFL’s best.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2014-corey-ellis-richmonds-top-pick-may-require-foot-surgery/story-fnia6oop-1227138543816
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Maybe his kicking will hit 50%
:bow
With this new bionic foot
Corey trengrove
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Lol joke we take a guy who needs surgery. Stinks of the Conca decision
Get stuffed
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What a misleading title. He's fine, but if it flares again he may require surgery.
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What a misleading title. He's fine, but if it flares again he may require surgery.
It will flair up again, foot injuries are like that. Drafted another amputee
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Was actually about to jump on board this kid but at no fault of his own I just can't now. Wouldn't give up pick 12 for Trengrove and a pick downgrade because of a stress fracture but use our pick on him get bent!
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Managed correctly it will be fine.
- go for it ->
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What a misleading title. He's fine, but if it flares again he may require surgery.
It will flair up again, foot injuries are like that. Drafted another amputee
BAn this idiot until he gets some new material
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Lol bj
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Was actually about to jump on board this kid but at no fault of his own I just can't now. Wouldn't give up pick 12 for Trengrove and a pick downgrade because of a stress fracture but use our pick on him get bent!
Beggars belief really - FJ probably thinking he'll be the master recruiter who took the punt on this year's Troy Menzel...who the stuff knows.
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Happy to trade #12 for #20 and trengrove....
Cause they knew Ellis would still be there at the melbourn pick
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I still fondly remember the posters bagging the club for selecting Cotch when he was having his foot issues
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So is he being operated on or are we waiting for it to flair up?
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just waiting...
there's no problem with it at the moment as they said, he is running on it now.
plus...this is nothing like trengove, this is his metatarsal rather than the dreaded navicular, so a different prospect altogether
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Trent Cotchin anyone.......
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I still fondly remember the posters bagging the club for selecting Cotch when he was having his foot issues
I don't
I rremember deep sighs of relief we didn't take masten
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It's not a big issue, nothing to worry about even if it did need an op.
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What a misleading title. He's fine, but if it flares again he may require surgery.
It will flair up again, foot injuries are like that. Drafted another amputee
BAn this idiot until he gets some new material
Speaking of which.... ::)
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Nice old school action shot, reminds me of Jack Dyer photo's. Let's back him in!
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Nice old school action shot, reminds me of Jack Dyer photo's. Let's back him in!
Same size
185
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That's my avatar! :clapping
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
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A friend of mine at work is mates with one of the recruiters at Hawthorn. He asked about Ellis and the Hawthorn guy thought it was a good pick. They also rated Ellis better than Duggan, Ahern and Weller. Some of the crap about Ellis in this thread is so stupid.
Pretty well in line with my mail too, he s an excellent pick up, just quietly he could navigate his way through a Shanghai traffic jam such is his composure in the clutches ....don't underestime this kid , :shh
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On the sauce OE ?
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
i think we could find a spot for him
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ah well i may as well open myself up again and say what i think.
not sold on shiel and have a few issues with him. kid will probably show me up.
on ellis geez im in no mans land with him.
i had a few that werent taken in front of him laverde weller but for me i would have taken a tall at 12. i really like sam durdin as a prospect.time will tell i suppose.for me it was a toss of the coin between a mid laverde and durdin a kpp in the end if durdin wasnt there i probably would have still gone tall with lever.
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ah well i may as well open myself up again and say what i think.
not sold on shiel and have a few issues with him. kid will probably show me up.
on ellis geez im in no mans land with him.
i had a few that werent taken in front of him laverde weller but for me i would have taken a tall at 12. i really like sam durdin as a prospect.time will tell i suppose.for me it was a toss of the coin between a mid laverde and durdin a kpp in the end if durdin wasnt there i probably would have still gone tall with lever.
As you say, time will tell, maybe Goddard was the perfect pick?
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
i think we could find a spot for him
Yer me too.
One less spot for Grigg and Houli.
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
His kicking was shizen against us but he is generally a better kick than that, not sure if it is A grade standard though for an outside midfielder. But sorry I can't agree on his pace comment, he has pace to burn
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
His kicking was shizen against us but he is generally a better kick than that, not sure if it is A grade standard though for an outside midfielder. But sorry I can't agree on his pace comment, he has pace to burn
As I said, if he does have genuine speed I don't think he uses it much to break the lines. Just like Lids IMO, doesn't take the game on enough with his speed. Lids plays really safe footy. Does everything really well but with all his attributes could be one of the best mids in the game but isn't unfortunately.
I guess a lot of how you 'take the game on' comes from your personality. I saw a game on Foxtel a while back and Lids was in his first or second season and he played a lot more attacking footy.
Just my opinion, what do others think?
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I agree 100% wqith you BT regarding Lids - for his skillset could and should be a lot more damaging. I liked him playing high HF last season was averaging better than a goal a game for 10-12 weeks, plonk him there for most of the season and we may just unlock something
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
His kicking was shizen against us but he is generally a better kick than that, not sure if it is A grade standard though for an outside midfielder. But sorry I can't agree on his pace comment, he has pace to burn
As I said, if he does have genuine speed I don't think he uses it much to break the lines. Just like Lids IMO, doesn't take the game on enough with his speed. Lids plays really safe footy. Does everything really well but with all his attributes could be one of the best mids in the game but isn't unfortunately.
I guess a lot of how you 'take the game on' comes from your personality. I saw a game on Foxtel a while back and Lids was in his first or second season and he played a lot more attacking footy.
Just my opinion, what do others think?
Tone I watched Dylan play all his home games live last season and he is quick especially over the first 20 metres. His endurance is elite, Kicking is actually pretty good and is very dangerous around goal. He is tough and has no problems playing the role of an inside mid when required. In a nutshell, he is missed by GWS when he isn't on the ground.
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
His kicking was shizen against us but he is generally a better kick than that, not sure if it is A grade standard though for an outside midfielder. But sorry I can't agree on his pace comment, he has pace to burn
As I said, if he does have genuine speed I don't think he uses it much to break the lines. Just like Lids IMO, doesn't take the game on enough with his speed. Lids plays really safe footy. Does everything really well but with all his attributes could be one of the best mids in the game but isn't unfortunately.
I guess a lot of how you 'take the game on' comes from your personality. I saw a game on Foxtel a while back and Lids was in his first or second season and he played a lot more attacking footy.
Just my opinion, what do others think?
Tone I watched Dylan play all his home games live last season and he is quick especially over the first 20 metres. His endurance is elite, Kicking is actually pretty good and is very dangerous around goal. He is tough and has no problems playing the role of an inside mid when required. In a nutshell, he is missed by GWS when he isn't on the ground.
By the sounds of it you would be the one to know about Shiel. I hope he joins the Tigers at the end of the year, I do like the look of him. But my main point was why did we draft an inside mid with our first pick if we potentially are getting Dylan at seasons end? Especially with Miles excelling in that roll this year. It makes me think we would like him but we are still miles away.
I hope with all the talk from the club we get someone decent at the end of the year. We deserve it and we need it!! Otherwise it's just another lie from the club.
Good luck to Ellis though, if we get Dylan it will just be a bonus. And you can never have to many blokes that are hard at it. :thumbsup
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I agree Tone, on first inspection do we have a real immediate need for Ellis? Was he selected on that fact that the club thought he was the best available at our pick? Would we have selected Duggan had he not gone? IMO I thought Weller or Lever would have been better choices but I guess the club may be going for added midfield depth.
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I agree Tone, on first inspection do we have a real immediate need for Ellis? Was he selected on that fact that the club thought he was the best available at our pick? Would we have selected Duggan had he not gone? IMO I thought Weller or Lever would have been better choices but I guess the club may be going for added midfield depth.
Yes it would be interesting to know if Duggan had of been available if we would have selected him. I'm hoping someone knows someone that was on the table on draft night :P
Anyway we got Ellis and I'm pumped again for next year. This year was the first year ever that I lost interest in footy and the Tigers. I could quite easy watch 4,5,6 games of footy a weekend usually but it got to the point where I'd turn over and watch something else or just go to bed.
We need a big year for this club to repay us long suffering supporters. And make no mistake they do owe all of us! :gotigers
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Richmond’s first pick in the 2014 National Draft, Corey Ellis, will have minor surgery on his foot this week.
The procedure is not expected to keep the talented 18-year-old midfielder on the sidelines for long, with the Tigers expecting him to return to training early in the new year.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-12-16/minor-surgery-for-ellis
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Very good, get it done but let's not turn it into the Cotch episode.
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Ellis settles in ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-12-16/ellis-settles-in
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I agree Tone, on first inspection do we have a real immediate need for Ellis? Was he selected on that fact that the club thought he was the best available at our pick? Would we have selected Duggan had he not gone? IMO I thought Weller or Lever would have been better choices but I guess the club may be going for added midfield depth.
Yes it would be interesting to know if Duggan had of been available if we would have selected him. I'm hoping someone knows someone that was on the table on draft night :P
Anyway we got Ellis and I'm pumped again for next year. This year was the first year ever that I lost interest in footy and the Tigers. I could quite easy watch 4,5,6 games of footy a weekend usually but it got to the point where I'd turn over and watch something else or just go to bed.
We need a big year for this club to repay us long suffering supporters. And make no mistake they do owe all of us! :gotigers
we must be of similar age BT because i was exactly the same this year. I would even arrive at quarter time and leave before the end thats how bored i have become with the game.
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Gee I hope that foot surgery is only minor , not exactly what I wanted to hear ::)
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Gee I hope that foot surgery is only minor , not exactly what I wanted to hear ::)
Going by the previous articles it is only minor.
More of a concern is it will wipe a big chunk of preseason and delay his cycle through the training years.
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Said tonight he goes in this week to have a bone fragment removed and will be back after the standard break in three weeks , sounds like good news to me
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
i sort of disagree a bit here tone.
i think the need was enormous for another big bodied inside mid. unfortunately for us the need for a super quick highly skilled hard running outside mid was just as great.
we took a big bodied inside mid with our first pick, like you if i was going mids it would have been laverde and blakeley. both were available at 12 and 33..
why i think the need for a inside mid. look no further than the list. it wasnt until miles came in that we could compete on the inside consitently, lose one of miles or cotch and theres just no one else at a similar inside level. we needed some quality depth in the area and hopefully we have got it.
in the end i opted for a tall with pick 12 as i think either durdin or lever would have been worthy at our pick. i like goddard a lot as well.. i also unlike most others think we desperately need quality talls as well as mids.
anyway like you i really liked laverde months before the draft,in the end as far as mids go it was down to de goey and laverde and i really didnt think either would get to us. de goey would have been great imo.
for me i would have been over the moon if we had somehow managed to take garlett. carlton gave him away. , snare frawley as a f/a and traded for hallahan who cost very little prior to the draft. i was very disappointed we didnt have a crack at any of em. then to follow up with at 12 and 33 laverde and blakeley it would have addressed a few issues.
we address sml fwd problem garlett,
we address kpd quality and depth. frawley. no need to take durdin, lever, or even goddard.
we add three mids all ready to go and address inside and outside needs. laverde, hallahan, blakeley.leaving 3 other nd picks to address needs. glad we took mckenzie as the area is another big need. i would have been keen to take kietel or oscar mcdonald as well.
as for ellis im still stumped and unsure.he could prove very astute but for me he was nowhere near best available at this pick and i think we could have addressed the inside need later with blakeley anyway.
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I heard from a reliable sauce, that this procedure, whilst perfectly straight forward,
could kill him because he's allergic to anesthetic.
My question is, would we perhaps get a consolation pick that we could
we next year?
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Just sign up Newman til 2017 as a plan B
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A mate of mine was part of the coaching staff this year that coached Corey and he thinks he is a star. That's good enough for me knowing my mate and him not saying that to many before.
I really hope for the club and for all us Tiger supporters that he is right.
Still would have gone Lavede but what would I know. Just think we need more outside run and leg speed. The part that hurts the most is he has gone to Essendon, which I f:;king hate more than..... Frances Jackson. :shh
Makes me wonder though if we are a massive chance to pick up Shiel next year did we need another 'one paced' inside mid?
Anyway what's done is done. :gotigers
Tone, not sure if you are inferring that shiel is one paced, in actual fact he is very quick and is versatile enough to play as either an inside or outside mid
From what I have seen of him he isn't overly quick, or doesn't use his pace if he is, and his kicking isn't elite like an A grade outside midfielders needs to be.
Don't get me wrong I'd have him in a heartbeat but think he is better suited as an inside mid doing some in and under work. That's why I would have preferred Leverde.
It's all mute at this stage but if we do get him as I said, I think an outside mid would have been a better pick this draft.
Just my opinion.
i sort of disagree a bit here tone.
i think the need was enormous for another big bodied inside mid. unfortunately for us the need for a super quick highly skilled hard running outside mid was just as great.
we took a big bodied inside mid with our first pick, like you if i was going mids it would have been laverde and blakeley. both were available at 12 and 33..
why i think the need for a inside mid. look no further than the list. it wasnt until miles came in that we could compete on the inside consitently, lose one of miles or cotch and theres just no one else at a similar inside level. we needed some quality depth in the area and hopefully we have got it.
in the end i opted for a tall with pick 12 as i think either durdin or lever would have been worthy at our pick. i like goddard a lot as well.. i also unlike most others think we desperately need quality talls as well as mids.
anyway like you i really liked laverde months before the draft,in the end as far as mids go it was down to de goey and laverde and i really didnt think either would get to us. de goey would have been great imo.
for me i would have been over the moon if we had somehow managed to take garlett. carlton gave him away. , snare frawley as a f/a and traded for hallahan who cost very little prior to the draft. i was very disappointed we didnt have a crack at any of em. then to follow up with at 12 and 33 laverde and blakeley it would have addressed a few issues.
we address sml fwd problem garlett,
we address kpd quality and depth. frawley. no need to take durdin, lever, or even goddard.
we add three mids all ready to go and address inside and outside needs. laverde, hallahan, blakeley.leaving 3 other nd picks to address needs. glad we took mckenzie as the area is another big need. i would have been keen to take kietel or oscar mcdonald as well.
as for ellis im still stumped and unsure.he could prove very astute but for me he was nowhere near best available at this pick and i think we could have addressed the inside need later with blakeley anyway.
Claw to totally understand you want more of player A because our depth isn't great in a certain position but before you even think about depth or injuries, you have to have the best 22 you can.
My point was, if we are any chance of getting Shiel next year from GWS we IMO should have taken an A grade outside runner with our first pick. Like you said, we have Miles and Cotch that play that roll really well ATM, and waiting another year to get Shiel to help out in that roll wouldn't have been the end if the world.
Do we have a genuine outside runner that gets 30 week in week out? Like say a Swan or Pendleburry. Win lose or draw those blokes just get the footy. Put anyone with a pulse on Lids and he goes to water. Cotch is a star and does both inside and outside work, but there is no one really else that hurts teams with their numbers. Ellis and Grigg both get decent numbers but both are useless when it comes to hurting teams with those touches.
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New Tiger goes under the knife
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
December 17, 2014 9:54 AM
COREY Ellis is expected to resume training in January, despite Richmond's first pick at last month's NAB AFL Draft needing foot surgery this week.
The No.12 pick missed the end of the TAC Cup season with a stress fracture in his foot, which also saw him sit out testing at the NAB AFL Draft Combine.
He was out of his protective moonboot in the lead-up to the draft and began jogging gradually, but was under advice from his surgeon that if any soreness persisted he may require an operation.
The club said the 18-year-old was not expected to be sidelined for long after Friday's procedure.
"In consultation with our medical team, we have decided that the best course of action is for Corey to have minor surgery on his foot," Richmond's football manager, Dan Richardson, told the club's website.
"We were fully aware of Corey's condition when we drafted him, and that a procedure might be required at some stage. While he will not be rushed back into full training, we expect a full recovery early in 2015."
The Tigers targeted Ellis for his class, decision-making and poise in the midfield after a consistent season with the Western Jets and Vic Metro at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-17/new-tiger-under-knife
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expected to miss about 2-3 weeks of training in january
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lids numbers are not too far behind pendelberry and swan at all.
averaged more disposals than swan in 2014 with more 30 plus games as well as anther 3 of 29
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Ellis settles in ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-12-16/ellis-settles-in
* To be picked up [in the AFL draft] has been a dream my whole life and for it to happen and for it to be a good result like Richmond, I’m really pleased.
* Definitely like to follow Cotch around and Deledio – both midfielders – and learn some things off them which will help my game.
* 2015 goals - I want to play a few senior games at least next year. But for that to happen, I’ve got to be training well and learning the structures and everything.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-12-17/ellis-in-tigerland
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Fumble the ball, pick it up and kick to an opposition player under pressure, c'mon, should pick up that team structure in no time :thumbsup
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lids numbers are not too far behind pendelberry and swan at all.
averaged more disposals than swan in 2014 with more 30 plus games as well as anther 3 of 29
Swan had a pretty quite year due to injury. His previous 5 seasons are a better indication. How do those number stack up? Not only that, Lids goes missing in most big games. Swan and Pendleburry are proven big game players.
IMO lids isn't a genuine mid, plays better across half back or half forward. Don't get me wrong, Lids has been good for the RFC but he is not in that elite midfield bracket.
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lids numbers are not too far behind pendelberry and swan at all.
averaged more disposals than swan in 2014 with more 30 plus games as well as anther 3 of 29
Swan had a pretty quite year due to injury. His previous 5 seasons are a better indication. How do those number stack up? Not only that, Lids goes missing in most big games. Swan and Pendleburry are proven big game players.
IMO lids isn't a genuine mid, plays better across half back or half forward. Don't get me wrong, Lids has been good for the RFC but he is not in that elite midfield bracket.
Agree will never be an elite midfielder
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ok a bone fragment is stuff all, like my daughter has a fragment of baby tooth left , tis nothing :clapping
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lids numbers are not too far behind pendelberry and swan at all.
averaged more disposals than swan in 2014 with more 30 plus games as well as anther 3 of 29
Swan had a pretty quite year due to injury. His previous 5 seasons are a better indication. How do those number stack up? Not only that, Lids goes missing in most big games. Swan and Pendleburry are proven big game players.
IMO lids isn't a genuine mid, plays better across half back or half forward. Don't get me wrong, Lids has been good for the RFC but he is not in that elite midfield bracket.
i think a lot of supporters feel lids has never reached the heights he could, but he is a very good player. a classy player.
career wise he is only 3 or so possessions per game behind swan. both are down on penelbury though.
i think his inability to shake a tag and big game performance is overplayed. he had 29 touches in the port adelaide final debacle, for example.
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lids numbers are not too far behind pendelberry and swan at all.
averaged more disposals than swan in 2014 with more 30 plus games as well as anther 3 of 29
Swan had a pretty quite year due to injury. His previous 5 seasons are a better indication. How do those number stack up? Not only that, Lids goes missing in most big games. Swan and Pendleburry are proven big game players.
IMO lids isn't a genuine mid, plays better across half back or half forward. Don't get me wrong, Lids has been good for the RFC but he is not in that elite midfield bracket.
i think a lot of supporters feel lids has never reached the heights he could, but he is a very good player. a classy player.
career wise he is only 3 or so possessions per game behind swan. both are down on penelbury though.
i think his inability to shake a tag and big game performance is overplayed. he had 29 touches in the port adelaide final debacle, for example.
Came good after the horse had bolted and Port took the foot off....dropped his bundle like everyone else when they jumped us and were running riot.
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Great video on the AFLPA site about Ellis on draft night. We have landed a beauty :cheers
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Great video on the AFLPA site about Ellis on draft night. We have landed a beauty :cheers
Seems like a fantastic young man! We are in good hands in the future!
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Great video on the AFLPA site about Ellis on draft night. We have landed a beauty :cheers
Here's the link:
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/draft-day-with-corey-ellis/
Draft Day with Corey Ellis
By Sam McInerney
Dec 17, 2014
On the 27th of November, an 18-year-old from Keilor woke up knowing his lifelong dream of joining an AFL list was about to become reality. aflplayers.com.au was there to follow the biggest day of Corey Ellis’s football life – the day when all AFL journeys begin – draft day.
[http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/draft-day-with-corey-ellis/
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If you don't think Brett Deledio has been a boom pick and an absolute gun for the RFC then please walk away from this club forever.
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If you don't think Brett Deledio has been a boom pick and an absolute gun for the RFC then please walk away from this club forever.
No one has said that but what was said is that he is not an elite midfielder
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Elite player, not an elite midfielder, agreed.
Carry on. :police:
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Great video on the AFLPA site about Ellis on draft night. We have landed a beauty :cheers
Here's the link:
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/draft-day-with-corey-ellis/
Draft Day with Corey Ellis
By Sam McInerney
Dec 17, 2014
On the 27th of November, an 18-year-old from Keilor woke up knowing his lifelong dream of joining an AFL list was about to become reality. aflplayers.com.au was there to follow the biggest day of Corey Ellis’s football life – the day when all AFL journeys begin – draft day.
[http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/draft-day-with-corey-ellis/
Fantastic vid. They should show that on tv.
Corey's dad is great. Fits in at Tigerland already with him saying "As long as Corey doesn't get drafted by Collingwood" :lol.
Jack Riewoldt cops a lot of crap but there's no doubt he loves our club - "You're coming to a bloody good football club" :thumbsup.
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Great video on the AFLPA site about Ellis on draft night. We have landed a beauty :cheers
Here's the link:
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/draft-day-with-corey-ellis/
Draft Day with Corey Ellis
By Sam McInerney
Dec 17, 2014
On the 27th of November, an 18-year-old from Keilor woke up knowing his lifelong dream of joining an AFL list was about to become reality. aflplayers.com.au was there to follow the biggest day of Corey Ellis’s football life – the day when all AFL journeys begin – draft day.
[http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/draft-day-with-corey-ellis/
Fantastic vid. They should show that on tv.
Corey's dad is great. Fits in at Tigerland already with him saying "As long as Corey doesn't get drafted by Collingwood" :lol.
Jack Riewoldt cops a lot of crap but there's no doubt he loves our club - "You're coming to a bloody good football club" :thumbsup.
That was awesome to watch.
Seems like a real down to earth family. Hope he kills it for his family and for the RFC.
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Great vid, I was howling like a baby by the end of it :lol
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That's a cracking video, well worth watching. :thumbsup
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Yeah, enjoyed that vid. All the best to the young man. Living the dream.
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I like the kid. Could be like a new recruit. :shh
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I like the kid. Could be like a new recruit. :shh
49% like a new recruit anyway
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Could be the next Reese Conca
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That's a cracking video, well worth watching. :thumbsup
+1
Excellent video and Cory has a really supportive family behind him. I'm pretty confident we won't be seeing him urinating on a street corner anytime soon. :thumbsup
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Loved it. Well done to Corey and his family conducted themselves magnificently in that clip.
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Richmond recruit Corey Ellis set to return to running after foot surgery
Daniel Cherny
The Age
January 12, 2015 - 4:24PM
"You just want to get out there and train and show them what you can do."
The frustration in Richmond's Corey Ellis' voice is evident.
Ellis has not been able to show teammates and coaches why the Tigers took the midfielder with pick 12 in November's draft. His pre-existing right foot issues, which resulted in him missing the draft combine, flared up again in mid-December, forcing him to have minor surgery.
"I was on a program just to ease my way back into things, and then it flared up again, so I went straight into surgery," Ellis said on Monday at the AFL Players' Association induction camp at Etihad Stadium.
The wait is just about over though. Ellis said he should be back running this week, and hoped to return to full training in about a fortnight.
He praised the club for its support.
"They've been great. They kind of had a feeling that it would occur again so they've supported me through."
Ellis highlighted how Matt Thomas, who has also been in the rehab group, has assisted him through a challenging period.
"Being in rehab with him, he's always there and pushing me through."
The foot issue did not prevent Ellis from taking part in Richmond's gruelling training camp in Townsville almost immediately after his arrival at Punt Road.
"Talking to a few of the boys that was the hardest pre-season camp they'd done … it was the toughest week of my life."
One particular day stood out. Ellis couldn't take part in a hike because of his foot and was therefore "chucked on a mountain bike", and forced to ride up and down the mountain 2˝ times while the others strode the incline.
"I couldn't walk afterwards."
Even with his return to running imminent, Ellis isn't looking too far ahead.
"I just want to get my body right for the season now, get back into training and get a bit of fitness under my belt. If I'm training well enough I'll earn some game time, if not it'll happen in the next few years."
Ellis was reunited on Monday with his former Keilor teammates – Essendon's Jayden Laverde, GWS Giant Paul Ahern and West Coast's Damien Cavka. He recounted how much shared experiences had helped during their draft year.
"We could bounce things off each other and it kind of helped throughout the year. And now we can just look back on it and say 'we've done it.' "
He doesn't see the chats stopping though, with matey banter inevitable.
"We'll all stay in contact, and I'm sure it'll get pretty competitive about [playing our] first game."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-recruit-corey-ellis-set-to-return-to-running-after-foot-surgery-20150112-12mkws.html
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No pressure. When you get drafted by Richmond you get a massive article in Melbourne's second biggest paper
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Will be like a new recruit when he returns.
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No pressure. When you get drafted by Richmond you get a massive article in Melbourne's second biggest paper
What is the biggest? The HUN isn't a newspaper, it is a tabloid opinion magazine pushing Murdochs personal agendas.
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"Talking to a few of the boys that was the hardest pre-season camp they'd done"
Of course it is....... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::) ::) ::)
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"Talking to a few of the boys that was the hardest pre-season camp they'd done"
Of course it is....... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::) ::) ::)
What else do you expect him to say?
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"Talking to a few of the boys that was the hardest pre-season camp they'd done"
Of course it is....... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::) ::) ::)
What else do you expect him to say?
Could we have a poll thread on this here are my starters;
a) Man I bludged so bad and the staff were so dumb they didn't notice
b) It would have been the pits if Dusty didn't pick up these three chicks and bring them back to camp
c) Well it was boring as bat poo until Kingy showed up with his bikie mates
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Thanks Stig!
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Hey? That's not going to the doomsayers plan.
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Who else is on the injury list ? Is it only Benny Lennon?
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Who else is on the injury list ? Is it only Benny Lennon?
Lennon's in full training now.
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Who else is on the injury list ? Is it only Benny Lennon?
Current rehab group. Rehab group basically means recovering from injury. No one is 'injured' and out of action, everyone is doing something at the moment, a pretty fit list for this time of year.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1012978_10153029411573276_4096236156233916887_n.jpg?oh=4b9f7f30550a2e7e01f070470a3eb974&oe=5569E74F&__gda__=1432976677_eaa2453af917835e820e526d292c691c
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Who else is on the injury list ? Is it only Benny Lennon?
Current rehab group. Rehab group basically means recovering from injury. No one is 'injured' and out of action, everyone is doing something at the moment, a pretty fit list for this time of year.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1012978_10153029411573276_4096236156233916887_n.jpg?oh=4b9f7f30550a2e7e01f070470a3eb974&oe=5569E74F&__gda__=1432976677_eaa2453af917835e820e526d292c691c
wasnt aware that these guys suffered injuries
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Tearing it up. Entire team in Brownlow form thanks to the hardest pre season since the inception of the AFL....please...
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Running flat out on the Alter G yesterday about to resume full running. Looking forward to seeing him on the park.
Who else is on the injury list ? Is it only Benny Lennon?
Current rehab group. Rehab group basically means recovering from injury. No one is 'injured' and out of action, everyone is doing something at the moment, a pretty fit list for this time of year.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1012978_10153029411573276_4096236156233916887_n.jpg?oh=4b9f7f30550a2e7e01f070470a3eb974&oe=5569E74F&__gda__=1432976677_eaa2453af917835e820e526d292c691c
McBean, Shed, Grigg, Sam Lloyd, Thomas and ?Ellis (back to us....)
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From a North supporter on BF posted on Saturday:
"Will be fine to play VFL in the opening rounds. "
"Yep spoke to him 30 mins ago. Needs to put some weight on however!!"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-pick-12-corey-ellis.1082744/page-27#post-37333608
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Wonderful video - really captured the emotions of his whole family . Fantastic.
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lets hope he can play
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Wonderful video - really captured the emotions of his whole family . Fantastic.
Yeah you only watched it 3 months too late :whistle
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Maybe he watched it three months ago and left the comment yesterday.
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Maybe he watched it three months ago and left the comment yesterday.
Maybe :shh
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Wonderful video - really captured the emotions of his whole family . Fantastic.
I am making a video of my emotions right now
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Some positive news :thumbsup
Ellis enters the fray
richmondfc.com.au
March 11, 2015 4:48 PM
Richmond’s first pick in last year’s National Draft, Corey Ellis, has joined in full training with the Tigers’ playing group for the first time.
Ellis, a talented inside midfielder, who was selected at pick 12 overall by Richmond, had been recovering from surgery to his right foot that he underwent late last year.
“Corey’s had a very steady progression, being a first-year player and given the surgery he had and how much he’d missed,” Richmond’s Physical Performance Manager Peter Burge told ‘Roar Vision’.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-11/ellis-enters-the-fray
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I have updated my avatar to show my emotions to this great news!
P.S. if anyone wants to buy a video of my emotions it is available on beta max
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Can't wait to see him play.
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Wonderful video - really captured the emotions of his whole family . Fantastic.
Yeah you only watched it 3 months too late :whistle
Maybe I've had a lot on my plate.
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Hardwick expresses Ellis excitement
richmondfc.com.au
March 18, 2015 4:10 PM
“He’s a quality player – you’ve only got to watch him play,” Hardwick said.
“The things that he can do with the ball . . . he sort of looks like he’s not moving, but he manages to gain yards or make distance on the opposition.
“He’s going to be a really exciting prospect for us, whether it’s at the front part of the year . . . it’s probably not, because he’s going to be a little bit behind the eight-ball.
“But we expect him to be a player for us in the second part of the year.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-18/hardwick-expresses-ellis-excitement
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He's just getting in early in case there's anothere failure to recognise talent ie Miles.
Clever cookie.
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He's just getting in early in case there's anothere failure to recognise talent ie Miles.
Clever cookie.
Maybe it has more to do with the surgery he had on his foot?
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Well good to see him back on the park, lets hope he can get some quality games under his belt in the VFL.
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He's just getting in early in case there's anothere failure to recognise talent ie Miles.
Clever cookie.
Maybe it has more to do with the surgery he had on his don't?
Surgery on his don't? Sounds painful.....
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As in "don't go there"?
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is that short for donut?
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is that short for donut?
:lol
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Wonder where they will play Corey tomorrow?
Wing? Centre?
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Best of luck to Corey in his debut :thumbsup
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Wonder where they will play Corey tomorrow?
Wing? Centre?
He'll be the sub and play in the forward pocket
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Wonder where they will play Corey tomorrow?
Wing? Centre?
He'll be the sub and play in the forward pocket
And dropped the week after
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Wonder where they will play Corey tomorrow?
Wing? Centre?
He'll be the sub and play in the forward pocket
And dropped the week after
I feel for the biscuit.
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“Corey’s been terrific,” VFL coach Tim Clarke said.
“He was a little bit late to get going in the pre-season due to an operation, but he’s been building over the last few weeks.
“To come back and play the way he did on the weekend (against Frankston) really shows his class . . .
“It comes at a good time because our footy club needs a player like Corey to come in and have an impact.
“He’s very clean with his ball-handling skills and his ability to use the footy is terrific.
“I can see him having a real impact in senior footy once he gets comfortable.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-30/clarke-endorses-ellis
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“It comes at a good time because our footy club needs a player like Corey to come in and have an impact.
FMD!
are they really hanging their hat on a first gamer to solve our problems?
:help
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“It comes at a good time because our footy club needs a player like Corey to come in and have an impact.
FMD!
are they really hanging their hat on a first gamer to solve our problems?
:help
Yep and will probably get dropped the week after as the scapegoat
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Good luck Corey Ellis , make every post a winner kid :clapping
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“It comes at a good time because our footy club needs a player like Corey to come in and have an impact.
FMD!
are they really hanging their hat on a first gamer to solve our problems?
:help
Well they're hardly going to get it from Newman, Vickery and Chaplain. At least we can hope from Dean Polo game
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“It comes at a good time because our footy club needs a player like Corey to come in and have an impact.
FMD!
are they really hanging their hat on a first gamer to solve our problems?
:help
Yep
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Would rather play him at this stage rather than Foley. I don't want or expect him to be our saviour. I just want him to get a taste of senior game time.
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He'll be our best pick up ever
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Don't think he's ready yet for senior footy. People are forgetting he had surgery
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“It comes at a good time because our footy club needs a player like Corey to come in and have an impact.
FMD!
are they really hanging their hat on a first gamer to solve our problems?
:help
Yep
Sad state of affairs isn't it? As with most of our guys, the first 50 games are the best. Then its just a steady stream of mediocrity.
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Don't think he's ready yet for senior footy. People are forgetting he had surgery
People are saying a Corey on one leg is better than Grigg on two....
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Don't think he's ready yet for senior footy. People are forgetting he had surgery
People are saying a Corey on one leg is better than Grigg on two....
:shh
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Good work young fella. :thumbsup
Let's hope playing for Richmond isn't the beginning of the end of a could've been career. :pray
#findthecure
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Don't think he's ready yet for senior footy. People are forgetting he had surgery
People are saying a Corey on one leg is better than Grigg on two....
And Nahas on 3
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I don't think he should have been brought in so soon. FFS he didn't start running until February and full training only mid March barely played 2-3 full games at vfl level. I'm all for exposing kids to the big league but not before they're physically ready
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If he can be one of the better players on ground in a wet game of VFL, playing in the guts, then he is physically ready.
Whether he is technically ready is another thing.
I'm glad he's in.
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I don't think he should have been brought in so soon. FFS he didn't start running until February and full training only mid March barely played 2-3 full games at vfl level. I'm all for exposing kids to the big league but not before they're physically ready
Club has no idea
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If he can be one of the better players on ground in a wet game of VFL, playing in the guts, then he is physically ready.
Whether he is technically ready is another thing.
I'm glad he's in.
Disagree
Massive difference between a slow vfl track and alf footy
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I'm in two minds. It does seem rushed, but if he is in the best 22, why not?
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Didn't think I'd see this kid until after the bye at least... Surely short of conditioning, and in his first season too it seems way too early to bring him in...
Reckon he'll get the vest?
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Didn't think I'd see this kid until after the bye at least... Surely short of conditioning, and in his first season too it seems way too early to bring him in...
Reckon he'll get the vest?
seems to be in the 18 looking at the team line up, can you still be sub from there or is it usually someone from the i/c?
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Corey Ellis also provided an insight into the role he’s likely to play in his senior league debut . . .
“I’m looking to play a bit of inside midfield. Get the knees dirty, and head down, bum up, I guess,” he said.
“I’m just going to enjoy it (debut game) for what it is. Not take too much pressure into the game and give it a good, hot crack.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-05-01/ellis-debut-excitement
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I'm all for pushing youth but bloody hell poor kid doesn't look ready. Tiny. No pre season, this was silly.
Poor Lennon works his ass off in the 2s for 2 years and gets looked over for aging Newman, Gordon, Lloyd and Co.
Ellis doesn't do a pre season, plays 1 good game and gets a senior gig.
Mixed messages from a circus football department..
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lets hope he shows something. at the moment he looks like a 4th round pick.
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I dont think he looks too bad. Could've kicked a goal or two. Yes he's small but he's hard at it and at the end of the day that's what we all want.
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I dont think he looks too bad. Could've kicked a goal or two. Yes he's small but he's hard at it and at the end of the day that's what we all want.
not at pick 12 its not
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I dont think he looks too bad. Could've kicked a goal or two. Yes he's small but he's hard at it and at the end of the day that's what we all want.
He did kick a goal.....
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I dont think he looks too bad. Could've kicked a goal or two. Yes he's small but he's hard at it and at the end of the day that's what we all want.
He did kick a goal.....
Read the time of which I posted. He had missed 2 shots at goal at this point.
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I dont think he looks too bad. Could've kicked a goal or two. Yes he's small but he's hard at it and at the end of the day that's what we all want.
He did kick a goal.....
Read the time of which I posted. He had missed 2 shots at goal at this point.
:thumbsup
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Thought he did well
Was impressed
2nd, 3rd efforts after a making mistake - is a good sign for me. We have so many blokes who make a mistake and just drop their heads, refuse to chase and stand still feeling sorry for themselves
Pity we don't have more who are prepared to do this....
Some good skills.
For crying out loud it's his first game, deserves our support and encouragement
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Looked lost at the start but continued to get better as the game went on. Hasn't played much football lately and the jump to AFL is huge. Already made more progress than expected :clapping
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Thought he did well
Was impressed
2nd, 3rd efforts after a making mistake - is a good sign for me. We have so many blokes who make a mistake and just drop their heads, refuse to chase and stand feeling sorry for themselves
Pity we don't have more who are prepared to do this....
Some good skills.
For crying out loud it's his first game, deserves our support and encouragement
Agree, played well for mine :clapping
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Was impressed. Struggled with the pace of the game early but looked better as the game went on. As WP said did some hard things our senior blokes should look at. A couple pick ups below his knees looked classy as well.
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Was good for a debut. Leave him in the side until Hardwick stuffs him up like all the others. Again
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Has peaked need to trade out while value is high
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Looked very handy just quietly, another fj special :shh that first goal would have been handy , look forward to some absolute class over the next 300 games :clapping
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Classy
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Showed enough in one game, will be a player.
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Does he normally handball 3 times for every kick?
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Yep because he's always the one smashing in and getting the hard ball. Not so much this game but he was feeling the extra pressure from the AFL standard as you should know.
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Yeah fair call.
I'm not knocking him, just have no idea how he plays.
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He's going to be a player. Tough and clean in close. Lennon is a worry though.
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I won't lie- I didn't see anything to hang my hat on.
He looked slow by foot and even slower by mind.
I know he is underdone and he wasn't our worst but I thought I'd see something that would make me think, yer this kid can play. Sometimes it's only one passage of play but from where I was sitting I just didn't see it.
Anyway horrible day by the club.
As for Lennon he was worse IMO.
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I was the first to say Lennon will be a dud :shh
Massive tickets on himself
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He certainly did impress in 2nd half. Is tiny though, need to look after these kids, especially with no pre season. Wrapped for him to get through the game.
We aren't developing Lennon at all. He was a steal at 12. Bringing him in and subbing him out every game and the making him the sub is pointless. Give the kid a proper crack instead of gifting full games to Newman, Morris, Lloyd (until this game), Vickery and more. Give him a crack for an extended time.
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Kid looked good. Looked better than Lennon. Will be a player IMO. Needs to stay in the 22.
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People writing Ellis after one match. Funny stuff.
He's going to be a player. Tough and clean in close. Lennon is a worry though.
It's the mishandling of young talent that worries me more. Coaching staff should be charged with the corruption of minors.
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Really loved Cory's game. Was refreshing to see someone attack and hunt the ball with 2nd and 3rd efforts. Just embarrassing that an 18 year old as small as he is can come out against men and show our boys how it's done. Credit where credit is due we did start hunting the ball a lot harder towards the end of the game but by memory Cory was the first to show the desperation to win the contest and then actually win it.
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Makes the game look slower around him. A unique quality. Very impressed with what I have seen in particular some of his handballs.
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Has soft hands and can read the ball very well. Qualities that are hard to teach. A definite keeper. :thumbsup
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He's tough and he has poise. Reckon he'll be good for us.
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Just looked like he had the tiny bit of extra time to dispose of it, gold in modern footy
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Poise :clapping
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What Yeahright's signature said...
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Will be the best kick of the footy in our side in time, the most natural kick of the footy you'll see
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He's Cotchin with better footskills
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Brownlow in 3 years
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And remember all the complaints we had about him during the draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was even a thread called something like Mr 67% wasn't there? Where is the fool that started that???
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And remember all the complaints we had about him during the draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was even a thread called something like Mr 67% wasn't there? Where is the fool that started that???
Wasn't it Mr 49%? :lol
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hasn't shown anything special yet ... lets just wait and see how he goes over the next 12 to 18 months.
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And remember all the complaints we had about him during the draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was even a thread called something like Mr 67% wasn't there? Where is the fool that started that???
Wasn't it Mr 49%? :lol
Yeah some crap like that....who started that up?
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hasn't shown anything special yet ... lets just wait and see how he goes over the next 12 to 18 months.
He has shown more in one game than Morris and Batch have shown at all. That's special enough.
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hasn't shown anything special yet ... lets just wait and see how he goes over the next 12 to 18 months.
He has shown more in one game than Morris and Batch have shown at all. That's special enough.
That wouldn't be hard considering who you are using as a measuring standard. Neither Morris or Batchelor should be on our list. I cant believe our club picked Batchelor over Parker. And then you all wonder why our club is rooted.
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hasn't shown anything special yet ... lets just wait and see how he goes over the next 12 to 18 months.
he's 18 years old and played 2 games so you are correct let's revisit in 18 months
though there doesn't appear to be any doubt his footy smarts - certainly has those
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Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaa
Looking for elite kicks and we get 49%
:thumbsup
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Definitely showed signs against Collingwood. Early days though. Lets not put to high expectations on him.
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Sorry, I already have him penned as the messiah and I will hold him to that standard.
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only played 2 games but we can already see what he's capable of. he's a player alright
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I have watched him too..and to be honest I have seen diddly squat so far
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Definitely showed signs against Collingwood. Early days though. Lets not put to high expectations on him.
what position did he play
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Played about 2/3 game time ea of his two games and had 14 possies ea time, surgeon like precision and half his possies contested. I like the boy :shh
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Played about 2/3 game time ea of his two games and had 14 possies ea time, surgeon like precision and half his possies contested. I like the boy :shh
what position did he play
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full back
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full back
cause rance was ruck rover?
i was watching the soccer, so just tell me the answer
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seems as you asked so nice.....
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seems as you asked so nice.....
:lol
is he someone's alternate ego or.......
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What Yeahright's signature said...
:shh :shh
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Played about 2/3 game time ea of his two games and had 14 possies ea time, surgeon like precision and half his possies contested. I like the boy :shh
what position did he play
Saw him start in the middle at times and then on forward line
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Seemed to be mostly on ball from what i saw.
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Came on during the last quarter & iced the game for us! Mr Cool! 8)
How good was that running goal in the last? He looked like a 200 game veteran getting the job done like he'd done it a thousand times before! Cool, calm & collected. Sheer class this kid! :bow :clapping :thumbsup
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Came on during the last quarter & iced the game for us! Mr Cool! 8)
How good was that running goal in the last? He looked like a 200 game veteran getting the job done like he'd done it a thousand times before! Cool, calm & collected. Sheer class this kid! :bow :clapping :thumbsup
:thumbsup
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-30/round-9-ellis-on-the-run
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When he kicked that goal, I was outa my seat, like stuffen whoa :bow
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Could be anything, just seems to have it!
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When he kicked that goal, I was outa my seat, like stuffen whoa :bow
All class Bojo, was a beautiful thing to watch.
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got straight into the play coming on. Think he has alot to offer the club
:gotigers
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starting to show some good signs. great goal yesterday. still think he will be a much better player in 40 games time.
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kicks them goals 49% of the time 8)
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When he kicked that goal, I was outa my seat, like stuffen whoa :bow
Fantastic wasn't it? Natural instinct.
Glad Frank backed his.
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Corey Ellis interview:
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-02/talking-tigers-episode-12-2015
On his aims for the rest of this season: “I’d love to keep playing in the senior side and just play my role. That’s No. 1. And, to keep learning off the track with ‘Dusty’ and that kind of thing.”
On his Tigerland mentor: “My mentor Dustin (Martin) has done a lot of things for me and I really appreciate that kind of thing. He hasn’t given me a hell of a lot of footy advice. But in terms of life, settling into the Club, the routine and that kind of thing, I can go to him for anything and he’ll help me out whatever it is . . . He loves the Club. A lot of the other players have been really helpful, too.”
On being compared to Collingwood captain Scott Pendlebury: “He was probably one of my idols growing up, so to be compared to him was a bit of an eye-opener. If I could be half the player he is, I’d be pretty happy.”
Read more and the full interview at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-03/the-corey-story
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How silky smooth does this guy look, that pass to Lids in the 1st quarter was sublime, could be one of our very best recruits this kid :bow
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How silky smooth does this guy look, that pass to Lids in the 1st quarter was sublime, could be one of our very best recruits this kid :bow
LukeHodge :shh
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He reminds me of Titch
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MUST keep playing this kid. Has class written all over him. Reads the play so beautifully!
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kicks them goals 49% of the time 8)
49% of the time, he kicks it every time
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His a gun
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kicks them goals 49% of the time 8)
49% of the time, he kicks it every time
:shh
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kicks them goals 49% of the time 8)
49% of the time, he kicks it every time
Love that post as my new sig
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MUST keep playing this kid. Has class written all over him. Reads the play so beautifully!
what he said :thumbsup
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Three set shots at goal for a return of 2.1. That's 67%.
Not including his rippa on the run in the last quarter last week.
Intercepted Duffield's kick in like Hodge in the GF last year. Classic awareness.
Just between us this kid is a keeper. :thumbsup
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Has anyone else noticed that he moves like cotch?
Or Pendlebury?
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Has anyone else noticed that he moves like cotch?
Or Pendlebury?
Exactly. Looks like he is not trying or even moving. Silk is his nickname at the club?
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Has anyone else noticed that he moves like cotch?
Or Pendlebury?
Exactly. Looks like he is not trying or even moving. Silk is his nickname at the club?
Yep, silk it is.
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I know they play different roles at this point but I love the way Ellis' skill set seems to compliment Vlatsuin's. Feel pretty good about these guys taking us forward.
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I dunno what it is but he reminds me of a mix of Cotchin and Edwards. Has silk and the x factor
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composure and seems to have time - you cant teach that
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composure and seems to have time - you cant teach that
Yep that's part of it too
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composure and seems to have time - you cant teach that
Yep that's part of it too
Dare I say it "Another FJ special"?
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Absoulate SILK ...
When C.Ellis 3 votes (you will be hearing this a lot in a few years time) has the football, turns to gold.
He set up Griffiths 1st goal, Deledio's 2nd and kicked one himself.
Also hit Cotchin on the chest inside 50 which Cotchin should have had a shot but went in short.
3 scoring involvements from a 5th game player.
What would Newman, Petterd, Thomas offer?
Keep pumping the young cubs!
:gotigers
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composure and seems to have time - you cant teach that
Yep that's part of it too
Dare I say it "Another FJ special"?
No patting on the backs for first rounders. They should be got right.
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lol.
the entertainment value of the first 4 pages or so of this thread is huge........
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Was keen on this bloke for a while now but surely I'm not the only one who has noticed the past two games he has been fumbly at times? First year jitters I hope but gee I'd hate to see it continue
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Mr silk
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49% Silk?
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9.98
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Shades of Leon Cameron in this one.
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Any updates how this kid going ??? Looking forward to him from what I seen before he got injuried got silk and time with the ball really classy.Could be a star for us in 2016.
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Any updates how this kid going ??? Looking forward to him from what I seen before he got injuried got silk and time with the ball really classy.Could be a star for us in 2016.
Richo and the others on the Talking Tigers podcast were pumping up Corey and the preseason he's had.
“I loved what I saw from him last year,” Richardson said.
“It was just one kick over in Perth . . . that weighted left-foot kick to Brett Deledio in that game where the Tigers smashed ‘Freo’. I thought, this bloke is going to be a 10-12-year player for the Club.
“Over the summer he’s got a lot of work in . . .
“He’s got class, he’s a smooth mover. So, keep your eye on Corey Ellis.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-02-16/corey-set-for-glory
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Mr Silk!
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I shall commit suicide as my Samurai forefathers have done before me to regain honour
that would be good hurry up. na just playin. but a serious question.
have you even seen this kid play judge.
me i have about 6 i would have taken in front of corey but i will not bag him not until we see what we have at the level. we all have kids we like better than others. it doesnt mean we are right. only way to judge ellis is on HIS PERFORMANCES FROM HERE ON IN. ATM francis jacksons picks are all spot on until PROVEN otherwise.
does anyone else here like the upside connor menadue represents. again i had about 3 i would have taken in front of connor but ffs this is a good pick.
while ellis is not my cup of tea and atm im alittle disappointed we didnt take others i think for once francis has done okay with his other picks.
time will tell and in fairness we need to give these picks a chance to work out.
Said this when we drafted him. It still rings true imo. Let the kid actually prove himself, so far all we have had is the odd glimpse of skill and not much else.Reading these type of threads where its gone from bagging and disgust to right now where if i didn't know better id think Ellis was an elite 150 game player instead of a second yr kid who has done nothing to date and played what just 6 games.
I have some concerns with this kid the same concerns i had when we drafted him but i wont be voicing them too many nuffies get too upset at any hint of negativety.
Why is it so hard for richmond people to actually wait until players prove themselves before they they start pronouncing them champs.
Yep Richo like most is sold on one kick. one tiny aspect of the game.Personally id just like to see him him get leather poisoning in the magoos for starters. If you dont get the pill to start with you can't hurt the opposition.This kid according to FJ Was to be our inside savior i would like to see some inside attributes and an ability to get enough ball for starters.
Once again im not bagging him i think he has talent but im sure the nuffies will twist it that way.
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Corey Ellen
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Wonder how long his honeymoon will last before the knives come out?
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Wonder how long his honeymoon will last before the knives come out?
Did he have a honeymoon?
He's like the Carmen Electra in a Denis Rodman marriage.
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Wonder how long his honeymoon will last before the knives come out?
Do you mean "new whipping boy - Corey Ellis" type threads?
;D
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So refreshing to see a player with clean hands who makes the right decisions. Hopefully he can stay on the park.
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Played a really serviceable game last night, looks classy and above some.
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Was good :clapping
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This kid will be showing up many in a few years, maybe even Cotchin :o
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Choco's latest cub watch is about Corey ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-02/chocos-cub-watch-ellis
* Corey took a bit of time. I remember going down to Frankston last season and watching him play in the twos. He played really, really well and after that he got his chance to play in the seniors.
* He’s silky, he’s smart and he’s continually working on the other areas of his game. He has a great degree of diligence and wants to be a better tackler, so we’re working on that as well.
* Most importantly, I think he belongs now. He’s speaking up more in meetings, yelling for the ball and doing all those things that young people probably doubt themselves a little when they first come into the AFL.
* So, that’s what he’s doing and it all adds to him getting more possessions. And when the ball’s in his hands, it’s a great result for us. He’s line-ball to play every game this year. Right now, he’s looking good. His attributes in being able to work inside and outside and being a great deliverer of the ball are all great traits that we need in our side.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-03-02/chocos-cub-watch-corey-ellis
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Ellis, 19, played his ninth senior league game in last Saturday’s clash with Adelaide at Etihad Stadium. He finished with 16 disposals, including three rebound-50s.
“We’ve trialled Corey a little bit off half-back. He’s a player that we feel has got incredible potential,” Hardwick told 3AW.
“His possession rate’s probably a little bit low at this stage. The one thing Corey does, though, is when he does get the ball, you certainly notice he can use it.
“We’re just trying to get the ball into his hands a little bit more."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-11/tiger-cubs-have-a-huge-upside
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I'm hoping that Corey getting such valuable match experience puts him in good stead going forward. He seemed to have little impact on Saturday and at times rushed his kicking. If he can learn to settle himself when he has the time he'll be a very good player for us.
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“We’ve trialled Corey a little bit off half-back."
Well Damien, who haven't you tried off half back....?? Why don't you try someone in the center, or is half back and the backline all you think exists in a team??
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“Corey’s grown again, I think, in his role,” Hardwick told Tiger great Matthew Richardson in this week’s episode of ‘Dimma’s Dissection’ on ‘Roar Vision’.
“His ability to use the ball is very good . . . the pleasing thing for us is he started to get a little bit more of it.
“We’ve been happy with the way he’s played down back.
“He played on (Mark) LeCras (last Friday night v West Coast) . . . LeCras, we felt, didn’t have a great influence on the game.
“We’ve been trying to play him on those better type of players.
“So, we’ve been happy with his progress thus far. He’s got a little bit of work to do, but we think he’s been a pretty good positive for us.
“Eventually we’d like to see him through the midfield . . . But it’s only his second year, and he missed the majority of last year with injury.
“So, it’s going to be a little bit of time, but he’s very classy with the ball, and wins his own ball.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-20/corey-gaining-ground
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Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaa
Looking for elite kicks and we get 49%
At least he tough at it
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Worried about this kid.
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To me he doesn't look like he is enjoying the game, hard I know when losing but his body language is not good, needs a rest.
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I'm more worried that he looks small, slow and unskilled.
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He didn't last year.
Worsfold plays Parish on the best opposition mid every week....Half-Step Hardwick hides Ellis in the backline..."development" at Richmond...
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Playing him as a half back is not helping his development.
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He's learning the defensive side of the game
Everyone gotta be a back pocket plodder like Dimma
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Another guy about to be ruined by playing him out of position…. :whistle
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Looked like he could have been anything last year...
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A familiar story.....
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reckon he'd give BEllis and Houli a run :-[
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Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.
Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
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He didn't last year.
Worsfold plays Parish on the best opposition mid every week....Half-Step Hardwick hides Ellis in the backline..."development" at Richmond...
Two of the three he did. He is slow and small but he has good skills. Needs to play inside but to do that he needs size.
I am all for playing kids including Corey to a degree, but Corey is one who would be better of spending most of his time in the twos. Imo he does not have the physical attributes to regularly play afl and shine atm.
some times they just have to be developed in the twos, saying that our twos are a grave yard lately. Ahh it is the old roundabout again.
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Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.
Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
Disagree he looks shot if we had a good development program he would not be playing seniors.
Most of the juniors we have played have struggled, why is that ?. Giving them needed experience is one thing, flogging them to death is another.
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Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.
Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
Disagree he looks shot if we had a good development program he would not be playing seniors.
Most of the juniors we have played have struggled, why is that ?. Giving them needed experience is one thing, flogging them to death is another.
How are we "flogging him to death"
It's footy Claw. Give the kid a run in the middle and free him up. He is never going to be a HBF.
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Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.
Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
Disagree he looks shot if we had a good development program he would not be playing seniors.
Most of the juniors we have played have struggled, why is that ?. Giving them needed experience is one thing, flogging them to death is another.
How are we "flogging him to death"
It's footy Claw. Give the kid a run in the middle and free him up. He is never going to be a HBF.
He is not physically ready for an inside role tone. he is way too slow for an outside role. I agree play him in the middle but in the twos. We are killing this kid playing him in roles he cant perform at afl level.Very little ball he is physically not up to it and is relying on scraps. Cmon mate you more than most understand the need to match up physical attributes to the role needed.
We dont need to play this kid at this stage yeah give him some games but let him develop and dominate in the twos where he physically has the best chance to compete.
You know what when he starts having 25 30 plus disposals in the twos and a third of them are contested then you will know he is ripe. he ius just not physically capable of playing to his strengths at afl atm
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It sounds like a good idea to just give him a run in the middle. However the kid has to compete! He like Menedue at times are just spectating the contest. Hanging back and not winning contested ball. At AFL level we cant aford that and are getting smashed because of these two kids. Add to this unfortunately the 3 mature mids we have recruited to help in the middle are not up to it. Moore, Townsend and Macron are not even close to AFL standard.
We are in for lean year!
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It sounds like a good idea to just give him a run in the middle. However the kid has to compete! He like Menedue at times are just spectating the contest. Hanging back and not winning contested ball. At AFL level we cant aford that and are getting smashed because of these two kids. Add to this unfortunately the 3 mature mids we have recruited to help in the middle are not up to it. Moore, Townsend and Macron are not even close to AFL standard.
We are in for lean year!
One of the problems is grigg and Houli often do the same thing. Yet they are not young, promising players, they are old hacks. Chaplin is good at it too. It's not just c Ellis and Menadue
Then you hve Townsend and Morris that have nfi
Makes it hard for Cotchin and miles types
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Need to keep getting games into him.
He hasn't been that bad I wouldn't have thought.
Get him to 50 games and he will repay the patience.
Play him across the centre line.
Let's see what he can do.
Play Lennon, play Rioli, play Menadue- get games into them.
Disagree he looks shot if we had a good development program he would not be playing seniors.
Most of the juniors we have played have struggled, why is that ?. Giving them needed experience is one thing, flogging them to death is another.
How are we "flogging him to death"
It's footy Claw. Give the kid a run in the middle and free him up. He is never going to be a HBF.
He is not physically ready for an inside role tone. he is way too slow for an outside role. I agree play him in the middle but in the twos. We are killing this kid playing him in roles he cant perform at afl level.Very little ball he is physically not up to it and is relying on scraps. Cmon mate you more than most understand the need to match up physical attributes to the role needed.
We dont need to play this kid at this stage yeah give him some games but let him develop and dominate in the twos where he physically has the best chance to compete.
You know what when he starts having 25 30 plus disposals in the twos and a third of them are contested then you will know he is ripe. he ius just not physically capable of playing to his strengths at afl atm
At the end of the day he has been no worse the Houli, Grigg and BEllis.
Playing him in the twos is a waste of time. Him playing amongst fat, local footballers isn't the answer. There are slower and skinnier kids running around at other clubs than Ellis. He needs games put into him and he needs to be played on a wing or HF. Dimma playing him across HB is useless.
He isn't going to win you games at the minute but you must find a way to fit in these kids otherwise they will stagnate in the twos with Griffiths and Elton.
Is the answer to just keep playing Houli and Grigg??
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I am definitely for persevering with him. And yes at the least play him on the wing if you are worried about him getting smashed. plonking him in HB and expecting him to develop is going to kill this kid. HB is one of the hardest positions to develop in. Hodge struggled there in his first 3 seasons there. Enright struggled there also. Add in the fact that Ellis isn't naturally a defender and he has no hope in hell ever developing ball winning skills in HB.
Play him on the wing and as he gets size stick him in the middle. End of story.
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Deledio discussing Corey Ellis:
“Corey just needs to get a good run at it. He’s going okay. Silky skills, but just need to get a bit more aggression into him, I think.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-18/deledio-lifts-lid-on-young-tiger-talent
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Deledio discussing Corey Ellis:
“Corey just needs to get a good run at it. He’s going okay. Silky skills, but just need to get a bit more aggression into him, I think.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-09-18/deledio-lifts-lid-on-young-tiger-talent
Well said Lids
Perhaps instead of contemplating trading him we should make him coach ;D
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Lids was also a massive advocate on Lennon.
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Shock horror
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Another draft pick with no aggro :banghead
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World class corralling but
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like connor they both need to get on the creatine sooner rather then later need more size they have pace but they worry me a bit with there ability
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Ellis pace? he's slower than a wet week
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Another draft pick with no aggro :banghead
Well we drafted Arnot, an aggressive, big-bodied, inside mid.....then after his first year proceeded to tell him to tone down his aggression, lose some of his bulk and turn him into a forward pocket....:gotigers
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Another draft pick with no aggro :banghead
Well we drafted Arnot, an aggressive, big-bodied, inside mid.....then after his first year proceeded to tell him to tone down his aggression, lose some of his bulk and turn him into a forward pocket....:gotigers
Only to provide a Jake King standard game and then dropped because "development" :clapping
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Ellis back on track
richmondfc.com.au
19 January 2017
Richmond youngster Corey Ellis has returned to full pre-season training, as he looks to cement his spot in the Tigers’ midfield in 2017.
Ellis played a block of 11 games in the opening half of the 2016 season, but a groin injury ended his run and he finished the year in the VFL after six weeks sidelined.
“I had a little bit of a groin problem early pre-season but back to full training now,” Ellis said.
“We’re off to Maroochydore next week for camp, so looking forward a big week.”
It marks Ellis’s third pre-season campaign, after he was recruited to Richmond with pick No. 12 in the 2014 AFL National Draft.
“It’s still very challenging but I feel like I know my body better, which means I can prepare better and be able to play some better football hopefully,” he said.
The 20-year-old is focusing on the contested side of his game over the pre-season, with competition for a spot in the midfield intensified since the arrival of former Gold Coast Sun Dion Prestia and ex-Cat Josh Caddy.
Ellis said the pair’s arrival had added extra motivation.
“I don’t think it’s changed too much, it just means more competition for spots which is a very good thing,” he said.
“They’re both very good players and we know that, so blokes are going to have to step up if they want a spot in the team.”
Ellis also finds himself learning from new coaches this year, with Blake Caracella and Andrew McQualter responsible for the midfield group.
”They’ve both had a big impact,” he said.
“(Richmond development coach) Xavier Clarke is also working with me quite closely but all three combined are very knowledgeable and I can go to them for anything.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-19/ellis-back-on-track
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I am hoping he has a really good year this year. Pleased that Blake Caracella is coaching him.
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Mr. 49% :clapping
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Hopefully has put a few KGs on and the body is ready for more games. One of the more promising kids on the list...
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Slow as a wet week
Weak as a wet tissue
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As big a stuff up as Tambling and Fiona
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Remonds me of Danny Meyer for some reason
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Disappointing, I expected more from him. He should also kick the footy if he has the chance but needs to find more of the ball.
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Back to the VFL son
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Will stay with vlastuin injured. I hope we don't bring Morris back
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Disappointing, I expected more from him.
I didnt, got a lot of work to do. Missed a large chunk of preseason so started behind the 8 ball. Has the class to look good at vfl halfbaked but lack of conditioning and speed exposes you horribly at the top level.
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I'm a massive wrap for this kid, his kicking is elite
But he was extremely disappointing tonight
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Looked lost.
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Questions have to be asked again of our development at RFC.
I'm sick and tired of having players that are among the best VFL and then look absolutely light years away from AFL. This doesn't happen to every club. If it's not Lennon, its Ellis, if it's not Ellis it's McBean, if it's not McBean it's Elton.
Is it coincidence, is it mental, is it development, is it the way our AFL coaches use our fringe players? I hardly saw Ellis at all tonight. Did he spend an enormous amount of time on the bench? 2 games ago he had around 30 possessions and a handful of goals in the VFL. The jump is significant but this lack of impact by our fringe players is all too consistent.
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Hard for a player going from being a promising midfield player, to playing a high, attacking HBF in the VFL to being shoved in the pocket at the highest level. Give this kid some midfield time and see him flourish
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Church mouse
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Looks way too slow and makes poor decisions for someone who is an elite kick
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Play him the guts ffs....
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I'm expecting big things from this fellow.
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Play him the guts ffs....
Would get torched on transition playing in the guts atm
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Was exposed bad last night
Forget about the guts
He plays in the stands next week
Only place to hide him
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Play him the guts ffs....
Would get torched on transition playing in the guts atm
We do now anyway, at least he might get his hands on it....
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Was exposed bad last night
Forget about the guts
He plays in the stands next week
Only place to hide him
My guess is that you don't rate him?
So we can all be confident he will be a decent player then. :shh
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Was exposed bad last night
Forget about the guts
He plays in the stands next week
Only place to hide him
My guess is that you don't rate him?
So we can all be confident he will be a decent player then. :shh
:lol :lol that or he doesn't sign autographs
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Not a car park sort of guy obviously... :shh
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Heard he doesn't train well
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Was exposed bad last night
Forget about the guts
He plays in the stands next week
Only place to hide him
My guess is that you don't rate him?
So we can all be confident he will be a decent player then. :shh
:lol
You may be on to something
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Was exposed bad last night
Forget about the guts
He plays in the stands next week
Only place to hide him
It's almost like you want him to fail.
What's the issue?
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Questions have to be asked again of our development at RFC.
I'm sick and tired of having players that are among the best VFL and then look absolutely light years away from AFL. This doesn't happen to every club. If it's not Lennon, its Ellis, if it's not Ellis it's McBean, if it's not McBean it's Elton.
Is it coincidence, is it mental, is it development, is it the way our AFL coaches use our fringe players? I hardly saw Ellis at all tonight. Did he spend an enormous amount of time on the bench? 2 games ago he had around 30 possessions and a handful of goals in the VFL. The jump is significant but this lack of impact by our fringe players is all too consistent.
You have a really good point. That is a systemic issue.
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Play him the guts at VFL level until he grows a pair ffs....
e.f.a
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too timid for afl footy
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I'm sick of seeing players play above VFL standard and then blow up in AFL.
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too timid for afl footy
Totally agree
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...and even then , mostly to the opposition mids... :facepalm :facepalm
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...and even then , mostly to the opposition mids... :facepalm :facepalm
How is it, that opposition mids can "rove" to our Ruck's tap outs, yet ours are unable to reciprocate.?
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Seeing as we just played em was a big fan for taking Blakeley looks to be a good pick up.
Would still have gone a tall defender with the Ellis pick and Blakeley with our second.
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Seeing as we just played em was a big fan for taking Blakeley looks to be a good pick up.
Would still have gone a tall defender with the Ellis pick and Blakeley with our second.
Not sure what the point of repeating things like this claw. Yeah you were right but where does that get us? Nowhere. We can't change the past so there's no point continuing to raise past mistakes (of which there are too many to list). I wanted Lever with that pick but that doesn't get us anywhere too. I wanted Grundy instead of Flossy too.... :banghead
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Play him the guts at VFL level until he grows a pair ffs....
e.f.a
I too am close to jumping off the band wagon. Took a very good mark in the first few moments of the game and I thought here we go. I'm still going to back him until he gets a go in the middle but gee wiz he needs some balls
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...and even then , mostly to the opposition mids... :facepalm :facepalm
How is it, that opposition mids can "rove" to our Ruck's tap outs, yet ours are unable to reciprocate.?
Locker room anxiety?
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“I thought he [Corey Ellis] grew into the game, which was great,” Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said.
“He’s just so clean with the ball. Every time he gets it, good things happen.
“I was pleased for him . . .
“He’s been toiling away a little bit at VFL level, and whatever he does looks a class above.
“We’ve just got to continue to get the ball in his hands because every time he gets it, good things happen.
“So I hope he takes enormous confidence out of that.
“I’ve got real strong belief that he could be a player for us, and I think our fans caught a glimpse of that today.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-24/promising-signs-from-corey
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I'm pretty sure most times he kicked it today he turned it over? Looked to lack the penetration he wanted. Always been a C.Ellis advocate but seems I'm one of few who thought he was essentially useless
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I'm pretty sure most times he kicked it today he turned it over? Looked to lack the penetration he wanted. Always been a C.Ellis advocate but seems I'm one of few who thought he was essentially useless
? At training
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I'm pretty sure most times he kicked it today he turned it over? Looked to lack the penetration he wanted. Always been a C.Ellis advocate but seems I'm one of few who thought he was essentially useless
? At training
Don't make me get the gifs going, I don't want to hang my boy out to dry
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I reckon keep playing him. But I can recall 2 of his kicks dropping short by about 5-10m. One was a sitter for a gws player but he dropped it and I think a similar thing happened with the other one.
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OMG a player turning it over or not kicking it 50+ in the wet...not acceptable :whistle watched the game live and again on replay, Ellis was solid, did his job, won some critical 50/50 contests and went when it was his turn. Hope he plays the year out in the seniors :clapping
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I reckon keep playing him. But I can recall 2 of his kicks dropping short by about 5-10m. One was a sitter for a gws player but he dropped it and I think a similar thing happened with the other one.
To be fair, everybody's disposal went to crap afer the rain came......even GWS' super slick wunderkinds looked like a bunch of bush league hacks more often than not....
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OMG a player turning it over or not kicking it 50+ in the wet...not acceptable :whistle
Yeah, god forbid he chooses the right option once in a while ::) ::)
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Unsung heroes - Round 20
aflplayers.com.au
8 August 2017
Richmond: Corey Ellis
In a game the Tigers never looked like losing, youngster Corey Ellis showed promising signs. When the game was there to be won in the first term, Ellis bobbed up in the forward 50 and kicked two goals as the Tigers secured a 25-point lead at quarter time. Now into his third season, it was encouraging signs from the left-footed half-back.
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/unsung-heroes-round-20/
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Playing well
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Got plenty of time in the middle and stank it up good.
Nope meatballs is ready next week
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Still can improve. He didn't look as scared as previous games.
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Disappointing overall
Couple of nice passes but that was it
Houli is right next week, CEllis goes
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Another vanilla game by C.Ellis.
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It was said by some on forums etc that the day he was drafted he had gone out to his backyard and cried because he had achieved the dream of being drafted. That was a terrible sign, a sign that he felt he had achieved the goal when in reality he had only started a journey. Its been a poor couple of years for Corey, I wish him well, but I fear he isn't going to do much for us. Don't know what we could get for him now but maybe a new environment will help him in the future and he can find a place at a new club. I just think he is an average run of the mill player.
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Him and/or Menadue trade bait.... :shh
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Him and/or Menadue trade bait.... :shh
I have high hopes for Menadue and think he can be a good player, has serious pace which CEllis doesn't have.
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I agree but if he's not in the side by the end of the year I suspect he'll either be put up for trade or ask for one....
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Him and/or Menadue trade bait.... :shh
I have high hopes for Menadue and think he can be a good player, has serious pace which CEllis doesn't have.
The pace would've been handy last night
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At the ground last night - no issue with C. Ellis and how he played.
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You must have a strong shade of rose tint in those glasses
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You must have a strong shade of rose tint in those glasses
Ummm negative ;)
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He shows glimpses every game but never puts anything together...just doesn't get enough of it...send him back to the VFL and play him on ball....
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Another Francis Jackson pick, might improve with time, has the makings of a good player
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He's a little too slow for this level IMHO. No right foot too.
I wish he can succeed but honestly I don't think he will.
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Coaches' corner:
Corey Ellis In this week's edition of Coaches' Corner, Matthew Richardson and Assistant Coach, Blake Caracella, discuss Corey Ellis' development and 2018 form.[/i
"He’s had a great last three or four weeks of footy, winning the ball inside."
Solid development
“I’ve been with him 18 months now, and he’s really coming on . . . He’s been injured a lot for the last four years and has missed a bit of training, so he’s trying to get his body the right size to play inside ‘mid’ against AFL players. It takes quite a while to develop that body and he’s slowly getting there. He’s had a great last three or four weeks of footy, winning the ball inside. You could see on the weekend (v Williamstown in the VFL), he played quite well and he put his name forward for (AFL) selection.”
Found his niche in the midfield
“He’s also actually playing in a consistent role now in the midfield . . . He’d been playing half-back, he’d played on a wing. The last four weeks he’s played inside mid and gone well. We all want to make sure that he can play a whole game of footy. He’s in the VFL for a reason – there’s some good players in front of him. He needs to make sure he can play at that consistent level the whole time.”
His on-field attributes
“He’s got really clean hands, he’s strong over the ball, has got great vision, and when he gets it you know something good is going to happen. “He’s a great left-foot kick . . . He’s really classy with the footy in his hands and he’s starting to get the ball 30 times a game now, too, which is really beneficial for the team.”
Trying to break into the senior side as an inside mid
“That’s where he’s playing at the moment and, along with Anthony Miles, who got a game (at senior level) last week and Sam Lloyd, they all need to be able to play somewhere else at the same time. But, in saying that, Corey’s been fantastic in there the last three or four weeks.”
Improved defensive work
“His tackle numbers have come up . . . On the weekend he had six tackles, and he’s getting more involved in the game. Not only is he winning the ball, but if he’s not winning the ball he’s tackling and making sure he’s got a defensive presence.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-13/coaches-corner-corey-ellis
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A fork in the road moment for Corey. If he translates his VFL form over the past 6 weeks to the AFL and performs then he'll pretty much have a midfield spot for the rest of the season in a team gunning for another flag (given Conca is gone for the season). However, if he doesn't again then he possibly will have his papers stamped given this is his 4th year.
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A fork in the road moment for Corey. If he translates his VFL form over the past 6 weeks to the AFL and performs then he'll pretty much have a midfield spot for the rest of the season in a team gunning for another flag (given Conca is gone for the season). However, if he doesn't again then he possibly will have his papers stamped given this is his 4th year.
Yep
Can't argue with any of that MT
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Lasr chance saloon for Mr. 49% :shh
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Play him where he plays well and he should perform...the middle!
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I like Corey
Said for years it's a mental thing (footy) hope it kicks in at this level soon because he is OK IMO
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Play him where he plays well and he should perform...the middle!
Agreed.....won't be doing him any favours if we play him off half back again.... :shh
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How did we all see Corey's game tonight?
13 disposals (3 k, 10 hb, 6 con, 8 uncon) @ 92.3% efficency.
3 marks
1 tackle
4 1%ers
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Meh, showed faux poise
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Thought he was ok tonight. He seemed a lot more at ease and did a couple of nice defensive things.
Sure he needs to do more and i would give him more games in a row now both Conca and Graham are oit of the midfield. Find out for sure and/or build some trade potential
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Thought he was ok tonight. He seemed a lot more at ease and did a couple of nice defensive things.
Sure he needs to do more and i would give him more games in a row now both Conca and Graham are oit of the midfield. Find out for sure and/or build some trade potential
I thought he was ok too. I think he should impose himself a lot more with tackling.
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I liked his game last night.
The one thing that stood out to me is his composure with the footy. Not to mention he is a beautiful kick.
He will be a goood player for this club for a long time imo.
With potentially Grigg and Houli finishing up in the next year or so, he just needs to keep working hard and there will be a regular spot for him.
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Thing is, whilst Grigg isn’t nearly as good a user as Ellis, he can gut run and is quick enough for AFL, Ellis struggles to make the grade.
Promising showing last night, but he’s had plenty of those so far. Needs to establish himself, throw his body around a bit. Sometimes all it takes is laying a strong tackle or barging through a contest to help a player realise they can play the game.
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Thought he was OK
Reckon he will hold his spot but needs to get himself more involved
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IMO will only hold his spot through other injuries. I don't understand this guy. Great skills, performs well at VFL but seems to completely go into his shell at AFL. Maybe that's just his role off half back, I don't know. One of the most vanilla players I have seen in a long time.
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With Foss and Houli coming back maybe play in the guts next week.
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Solid - won key contests throughout the game. Play him full time in the guts :banghead
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Still far from convinced but considering he was basically playing Broad's role -which he couldn't be less suited to- while Broad was playing Vlastuin's role, I thought he did pretty well....still needs to be played in the guts to have fighting chance of making it at AFL level though... :shh
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Still far from convinced but considering he was basically playing Broad's role -which he couldn't be less suited to- while Broad was playing Vlastuin's role, I thought he did pretty well....still needs to be played in the guts to have fighting chance of making it at AFL level though... :shh
Hopefully with Graham coming out of the side due to injury frees up Ellis for a string of anywhere between 3 to 5 games and we then know if he is ready for September action or not.
I love the kid, love the way he dominates in VFL but I think it's time we try and persist with him or make a call.
Like most, I'm not sure he's up to it or not.
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Dud, delist.
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I'll just leave this here....
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:shh
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how poo is he? stuff i wouldnt want to head into september with this bloke.
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I’ve been waiting for him to emerge
Enough is enough , not up to it
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I’ve been waiting for him to emerge
Enough is enough , not up to it
Me too. I had high hopes but he’s clearly too soft. And what happened to his foot skills? Did he leave them in Melbourne? Maybe he’s just soooo timid he can’t even complete a basic skill.
I think it’s obvious now...........
........never recruit any player with the surname Ellis.
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It was the end when he kicked it OOTF in the 4th.
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Hopefully don’t see him in the senior side again. Never understood why so many hold hope for him to make it. He’s slow af and timid. Not the type you want next to you when the whips are cracking as yesterday clearly showed. Did the same thing down at Geelong last year
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He reminds me of Jayden Post.......not interested.
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It was the end when he kicked it OOTF in the 4th.
his only possession for the quarter.
permaban to.the magoos
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Achieved his goals when he got drafted. not good enough. When he cried on the day he got drafted it was a really bad sign. Anyway he had a chance and it hasn't worked out. Good luck to him in the future his future in footy is going to be as VFL listed player.
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It was the end when he kicked it OOTF in the 4th.
his only possession for the quarter.
permaban to.the magoos
Where have you been? Our quota of football experts needed to increase!
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Finally turns up after a loss.......weak as pee..... :thumbsdown
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Imagine what would happen if we ever lost twice in a row, we would get an influx of doctors
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It was the end when he kicked it OOTF in the 4th.
his only possession for the quarter.
permaban to.the magoos
Where have you been? Our quota of football experts needed to increase!
Hi Doc, havent posted much this year as ive had some major health problems which have taken most of my time and energy. things were looking dire at one particular stage. but im happy to report ive turned the corner and definately hoping to post a bit more often as i mend.
anyways enough about me.
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Yessssss big man :clapping
Good to see you're back :thumbsup
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It was the end when he kicked it OOTF in the 4th.
his only possession for the quarter.
permaban to.the magoos
Where have you been? Our quota of football experts needed to increase!
Hi Doc, havent posted much this year as ive had some major health problems which have taken most of my time and energy. things were looking dire at one particular stage. but im happy to report ive turned the corner and definately hoping to post a bit more often as i mend.
anyways enough about me.
I hope you are well now. Great to have you back. :clapping
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thanks lads.
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Take care of yourself Dooks :thumbsup