One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on October 11, 2007, 09:27:35 AM
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Interesting point raised by a Cat fan on another forum.
If we are after players like McMahon, Hooper and Morton is it a quick fix to try get us 6-8 wins, look like we're improving and take some heat off Wallace and Miller?
I don't know how these three guys would help us get the extra wins, but maybe with another pre-season under the belt of a few players, the returns of some injured players it might be enough to give us false hope again?
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With the young players we have coming through we will improve anyway. This was evident by our finish to the season so I highly doubt
Wallace and Miller are doing this as some sort of strategy to try and keep their jobs.
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I have had a shower and have calmed down a little.
I guess going after 3 players McMahon, Hooper and Morton is for the sake of the PSD. Two might agree to stay with their clubs, while we can get player 3.
I hope so.
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With the young players we have coming through we will improve anyway. This was evident by our finish to the season so I highly doubt
Wallace and Miller are doing this as some sort of strategy to try and keep their jobs.
maybe they're just trying to do their jobs ie improve the list.
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With the young players we have coming through we will improve anyway. This was evident by our finish to the season so I highly doubt
Wallace and Miller are doing this as some sort of strategy to try and keep their jobs.
maybe they're just trying to do their jobs ie improve the list.
imagine that :o
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With the young players we have coming through we will improve anyway. This was evident by our finish to the season so I highly doubt
Wallace and Miller are doing this as some sort of strategy to try and keep their jobs.
maybe they're just trying to do their jobs ie improve the list.
we did finish stone motherless last lol ... how hard can it be to say we improved the list? Reality is improving the list and making real progress towards winning a flag are two different things - you can add 2 or 3 players and improve a list, but the question is are they capable of being premiership players.
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The club argument will be that we are getting 2, 3 maybe even 4 players, taking into account the PSD pick, that are in that middle age bracket that we lack badly. It also fits in with Miller's (and presumably Plough's) view that a modern AFL side consists of 18 "mids" plus 4 talls. The issue I have is we already have a major overbalance of flanker-types and only one true quality onballer who we can rely on yet we're chasing more flanker-types while rumouredly avoiding the best onballer in the draft. We have also lost 5 talls from our list and as yet we haven't replaced even one of them. If we cop injuries again to a few talls we're going to struggle again next year.
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The club argument will be that we are getting 2, 3 maybe even 4 players, taking into account the PSD pick, that are in that middle age bracket that we lack badly. It also fits in with Miller's (and presumably Plough's) view that a modern AFL side consists of 18 "mids" plus 4 talls. The issue I have is we already have a major overbalance of flanker-types and only one true quality onballer who we can rely on yet we're chasing more flanker-types while avoiding onballers in the draft. We have also lost 5 talls from our list and as yet we haven't replaced even one of them. If we cop injuries again to a few talls we're going to struggle again next year.
That is real cause for concern. :banghead
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i am seriously speechless after this..
i cant believe miller and wallace. they make me sick.
both as pathetic as each other
we need kids..do they understand what that is..kids
every team improves their list with kids we seem to try top up with average players from other clubs.
this is crap it really is
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im starting my
kill sack wallace and miller campaign again!
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so poo for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so pooh for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
Correct!
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so pooh for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
wasnt wallace appointed to fix the "train wreck" that we were.
i know its hindsight but its clear as a bright sunny summers day now. wallace was a mistake and miller was worse
they are the 2 that have turned a train wreck into an unsalvagable ship wreck!
pi ss them both off and lets start from scratch
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People on other RFC websites have completely lost control lol...theres even petitions now and you guys reckon me and afew others in here are bad, we dont hold a candle to those guys lol.
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After going back and reading more of the other sites I urge people from the club to try and settle down the supporters, some people seem to have completely lost it.
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so pooh for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
Reasonable view but you don't have to start with a blank sheet of paper - you aren't ever going to have that option of starting from the beginning.
You can do the same exercise by acknowledging where you are and asking how you would change things if you had no constraints whatsoever (cash, people, facilities, etc) and then working backwards to implement what you can actually achieve.
I'm sure they do this sort of thing - they aren't stupid.
Re Judd - I was embarrassed to hear from the horse's mouths (Judd and Swann) just how far we were from being involved - we were nowhere. Never a remote chance.
Re supporters responses - also embarassing. The amount of abuse that players and officials receive on sites like this is disgraceful and shows an ugly side of our psyche. The way Schultz was sent off would make him feel that it's a good move.
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so pooh for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
Re Judd - I was embarrassed to hear from the horse's mouths (Judd and Swann) just how far we were from being involved - we were nowhere. Never a remote chance.
We were nowhere! its funny that supporters thought we were a chance ,in reality, RFC is a basket case, am sorry to say
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Im actually quite stunned by what people are actually saying on other sites, I write alot of crap in here, but mostly I do it to take the mickey and pass some time, but some of these people are exhibiting things which are no good for our club. Tomorrows trade deadline cant come quick enough and the club should try and settle it down- dont know how but the negativity and petitions and stuff like that- isnt helping anybody at this stage.
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so pooh for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
Re Judd - I was embarrassed to hear from the horse's mouths (Judd and Swann) just how far we were from being involved - we were nowhere. Never a remote chance.
We were nowhere! its funny that supporters thought we were a chance ,in reality, RFC is a basket case, am sorry to say
What did they say, i was at the hospital today in the afternoon and missed it.
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What do we owe Shultz?
He has sucked money out of the club for 5 years and given us nothing.
These guys are a very rare position and are presented with an amazing opportunity. Sure many players arent up to it and simply dont have the talent or skills required. I think Jay does he is just a lazy piece of crap.
I would give nearly anything to have been good enough to play AFL, these guys average over $100,000 per year to do something that they love and have grown up with.
If you cant cut the mustard then show them the door. Jay wont give a stuff about the RFC 6 months after he has gone.
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Im actually quite stunned by what people are actually saying on other sites, I write alot of crap in here, but mostly I do it to take the mickey and pass some time, but some of these people are exhibiting things which are no good for our club. Tomorrows trade deadline cant come quick enough and the club should try and settle it down- dont know how but the negativity and petitions and stuff like that- isnt helping anybody at this stage.
It starts with the negative crap people write and it snowballs.
And usually done without much knowledge of what happens on a day-to-day basis down there.
Does absolutely no good for the club, but they couldn't care less!
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What did they say, i was at the hospital today in the afternoon and missed it
Judd - said he decided on Carlton and then left it entirely in the hands of his manager and the two clubs. No remote mention of any complications after he made the call.
Swann - told 3AW that their claim re Richmond making a bid had caused his text messages to go off but that there was no other club involved and the simple truth was that Judd would never agree to go to us.
Eagles recruiting manager - (name?) told 3AW that there was only ever one bidder and that made their negotiating position difficult. No mention whatsoever of an offer from Richmond.
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Question, why wouldnt Richmond have a go regardless?
They have just rolled over and copped it sweet ::)
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Question, why wouldnt Richmond have a go regardless?
They have just rolled over and copped it sweet ::)
you have no idea.
absolutely none
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Richmonds problem isnt 1 or 2 people, its the whole joint and the culture down there. Steve Wright should get out a blank piece of paper and start writing down how he would create a premiership club from new if he had the chance- he should consider if he had a 17th licence- how would he do it, what are the requirements, who would a club need, how many resources across the board to start anew, start at the beginning. Its just my opinion but at Richmond we lose the forest from the trees, we start one thing and never finish because everyone is of in different directions and those in leadership quickly lose support from the masses. We have been so pooh for so long, it cant always be we pick bad players, it cant always be the coach, the whole joint needs a revolution.
i honestly believe there is one man who can change the cluture at the club and his initials are K.S.
He is the man. Not wallace, not Miller but him.
He would have a zero tolerance for this crap that we have dished up for the last 20 years.
a few weeks ago i mentioned Richard Lounder as our 1st pick and got blasted as it was 20 years ago, and was told to get over it. i was merely mentioning the sad state of our footy club since 1982.
something's gotta give and i think sheeds is the man to do it.
come next year the push to get him would be huge...
U tel me what has changed in that time..nothing absolutely nothing!!
Re Judd - I was embarrassed to hear from the horse's mouths (Judd and Swann) just how far we were from being involved - we were nowhere. Never a remote chance.
We were nowhere! its funny that supporters thought we were a chance ,in reality, RFC is a basket case, am sorry to say
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The recruiting policy of this club is non existent.
Miller must go.
MILLER= Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egotistical Ratbag.
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The recruiting policy of this club is non existent.
Miller must go.
MILLER= Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egotistical Ratbag.
spot on..
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The recruiting policy of this club is non existent.
Miller must go.
MILLER= Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egotistical Ratbag.
spot on..
:lol
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The recruiting policy of this club is non existent.
Miller must go.
MILLER= Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egotistical Ratbag.
im actually against personal attacks and believe more in judging the strategy. I dont agree with the current strategy and I think that people should just attack that rather than target individuals one by one. As i said before Richmonds problem is more than 1 or 2 people, we need a complete overhaul of people, systems, strategies, philosophies everything.
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Maybe so Ramps Horses for Courses
However,
It is Miller who recruits these players who have lets say very limited capabilities when they put on Richmond jumper and when performances such as what we saw for the majority of the year occur the people that concocted the recruitments of these players are the ones responsible. The recruiting has been poor in Miller's tenure let it be said. As for the players to defend them slightly well Miller has offered them a chance or second chance to play AFL so of course they will jump at the opportunity so perhaps no personal agenda to the players who are living a dream of playing AFL regardless of their obvious incapabilities. As for an overhaul of people and strategies well I fully concur there. Miller has overseen two tenures of coaching and other than Nathan Brown he has come up with no coup whatsoever. In 6 years that is by no means good enough.
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With the young players we have coming through we will improve anyway. This was evident by our finish to the season so I highly doubt
Wallace and Miller are doing this as some sort of strategy to try and keep their jobs.
maybe they're just trying to do their jobs ie improve the list.
cmon now dont be sensible, they are out to destroy the RFC thought you would have realised this...going by that other site that doesnt need to named, never seen such hysteria and hyperbole written about 2 people.
some people need a reality check or perhaps a good hard look at themselves.
disgraceful.