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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: coreybro on March 09, 2008, 10:41:48 PM
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I personally think the tackling is poor and hasnt got any better with the help from the Storm.
What does everyone else think
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nothing changes at Tigerland :lol
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nothing changes at Tigerland :lol
i second that. they are weak idiots.
most of them still weigh under 60kilo's so expect them to get thrown to the ground and every opportunity.
funny to see players from the 3006 draft stack on real size while our players seem to get skinnier. haha
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Weight has nothing to do with it. Its all about technique. In Rugby league where tackling is their bread and butter I've seen Preston Campbell who is 70 odd kilos regularly put 110kg forwards on their backsides purely because of his technique
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Weight has nothing to do with it. Its all about technique. In Rugby league where tackling is their bread and butter I've seen Preston Campbell who is 70 odd kilos regularly put 110kg forwards on their backsides purely because of his technique
agreed and add desire and confidence and you have the ingredients for good tackling. Believing you can tackle a bloke twice as big as you is probably the biggest hurdle to actually making that tackle.
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Weight has nothing to do with it. Its all about technique. In Rugby league where tackling is their bread and butter I've seen Preston Campbell who is 70 odd kilos regularly put 110kg forwards on their backsides purely because of his technique
weight has nothing to do with it hey.
its no coincidence that our players are all as skinny as my mrs and easily get brushed by any oponent that we play.
come on weight and size is a big issue at punt road. we dont develop our players in relation to size and to make things worse what do we do.
recruit mcmahon another skinny player who will never put on size.
like i said we r weak
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We don't tackle; we stand back and correl which just gives the opposition player extra time to find a free teammate :whistle. When we do tackle we don't take the player out of the play by taking him to ground.
I agree with tiga about tackling being about technique. Watch the hips! The hips can only move in the direction your opponent intends to move in. So watch the hips and your opponent won't get around you.
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when the club has a chance to take blokes like Shannon Hurn and Scott Selwood and either a) passes on them or b) trades away the pick then we wont have an improved tackling side. If we had Hurn and Selwood in our defence we'd wouldnt have to be looking for some hard nosed good sized defenders with a bit of aggression.
Imagine if we had taken these two.
Thursfield- to take the third tall, Selwood and Hurn, add Conners to the of hard run and aggression, wait for Rance to come on as CHB. And then we'd just about be looking for the full back ... and a poor finish this year could get us Hurley. Imagine a young backline of
Thursfield Hurley Selwood
Hurn Rance Conners
Thats a back 6 you can develop into something special. Instead we by pass players and trade our picks. We are where we deserve to be ... On the bottom- because we never learn.
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went and watched the Force v Crusaders super 14 match on sunday arvo and those boys can tackle all day
mind you they are mainly a different build to a footy player lots more bulk and brute strength less agility and not as able to change direction in a hurry maybe why they dont seem to have as many serious knee injuries as AFL
we could still learn from them as far as technique both for tackling and being able to break tackles
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Desire is what's lacking.
These players don't work hard enough off the ball.
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you dont need to spend the money on watching super 14's. Go and watch training at any local rugby union club and youll see how much practice is put into applying a tackle as well as being tackled.
Both my boys and i play rugby (in vic) and i tell you now the under 12 year olds do more and harder tackling than RFC.
If anyone is intersted in checking out a local team send me a PM and ill find the closest team to you.
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when the club has a chance to take blokes like Shannon Hurn and Scott Selwood and either a) passes on them or b) trades away the pick then we wont have an improved tackling side. If we had Hurn and Selwood in our defence we'd wouldnt have to be looking for some hard nosed good sized defenders with a bit of aggression.
Imagine if we had taken these two.
Thursfield- to take the third tall, Selwood and Hurn, add Conners to the of hard run and aggression, wait for Rance to come on as CHB. And then we'd just about be looking for the full back ... and a poor finish this year could get us Hurley. Imagine a young backline of
Thursfield Hurley Selwood
Hurn Rance Conners
Thats a back 6 you can develop into something special. Instead we by pass players and trade our picks. We are where we deserve to be ... On the bottom- because we never learn.
instead we pick up jordy mcmahon. now i dont blame this guy for coming to punt road. i blame miller and the spin doctor for picking this guy up. i dont care how he performs this year, good or bad. IT WAS THE WRONG CHOICE!!
he is another skinny non defensive player we simply did not need. not to mention the fact he has only one foot.
pathetic pick and just another reason why wallace and miller have'nt got a clue.
miller is a loose unit and will continue to recruit the same old stereo type players we have seen for years at Punt Road
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Desire is what's lacking.
These players don't work hard enough off the ball.
Magic, I think it's partly that, but also that they are taught not to.
As MT says, they corral instead of tackle.
How often do you see a rfc opponent, with the ball on the HFF, take all day to decide exactly where he is going to place the ball, because the rfc player is standing 5 metres away with his arms stretched in the air waving them like an air traffic controller, instead of actually going up to try and affect the possession.
For all those that say that rushing at your opponent makes it easier for them to evade or 'baulk' you, I refer back to MT's post about looking at their hips. Secondly, a team mate could actually come from behind the play and HELP HIS TEAMMATE.
:banghead :banghead :banghead
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when the club has a chance to take blokes like Shannon Hurn and Scott Selwood and either a) passes on them or b) trades away the pick then we wont have an improved tackling side. If we had Hurn and Selwood in our defence we'd wouldnt have to be looking for some hard nosed good sized defenders with a bit of aggression.
Imagine if we had taken these two.
Thursfield- to take the third tall, Selwood and Hurn, add Conners to the of hard run and aggression, wait for Rance to come on as CHB. And then we'd just about be looking for the full back ... and a poor finish this year could get us Hurley. Imagine a young backline of
Thursfield Hurley Selwood
Hurn Rance Conners
Thats a back 6 you can develop into something special. Instead we by pass players and trade our picks. We are where we deserve to be ... On the bottom- because we never learn.
instead we pick up jordy mcmahon. now i dont blame this guy for coming to punt road. i blame miller and the spin doctor for picking this guy up. i dont care how he performs this year, good or bad. IT WAS THE WRONG CHOICE!!
he is another skinny non defensive player we simply did not need. not to mention the fact he has only one foot.
pathetic pick and just another reason why wallace and miller have'nt got a clue.
miller is a loose unit and will continue to recruit the same old stereo type players we have seen for years at Punt Road
Absolutely the wrong choice, and when our supporters see what Selwood does over the next 12 months they're not gonna be a happy bunch.
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Desire is what's lacking.
These players don't work hard enough off the ball.
Magic, I think it's partly that, but also that they are taught not to.
As MT says, they corral instead of tackle.
How often do you see a rfc opponent, with the ball on the HFF, take all day to decide exactly where he is going to place the ball, because the rfc player is standing 5 metres away with his arms stretched in the air waving them like an air traffic controller, instead of actually going up to try and affect the possession.
For all those that say that rushing at your opponent makes it easier for them to evade or 'baulk' you, I refer back to MT's post about looking at their hips. Secondly, a team mate could actually come from behind the play and HELP HIS TEAMMATE.
:banghead :banghead :banghead
Well said Magic and DC. We don't work hard enough off the ball for each other when we have the ball. Likewise defensively. It shows up in the stats even as we are last in 1%ers too.
Corralling on the boundary line is especially stupid. If you have your opponent cornered you don't stay off him and give him all the time he wants to spot up a free teammate either inside or upfield :scream.
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I'll say this much if tackling & 1%s do not improve in this outfit by the end of '08 then Wallace should not coach us in '09. >:(
We will not win a premiership until we get better in these areas.
'Coralling'? Just tackle FFS!!!
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I'll say this much if tackling & 1%s do not improve in this outfit by the end of '08 then Wallace should not coach us in '09. >:(
We will not win a premiership until we get better in these areas.
'Coralling'? Just tackle FFS!!!
agree with u totally. why are we so crap at it?
is the message not getting through? i mean wtf are the players getting taught at training
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I'll say this much if tackling & 1%s do not improve in this outfit by the end of '08 then Wallace should not coach us in '09. >:(
We will not win a premiership until we get better in these areas.
'Coralling'? Just tackle FFS!!!
agree with u totally. why are we so crap at it?
is the message not getting through? i mean wtf are the players getting taught at training
The odd things is there's very little corralling at training yet it sticks out like the proverbial during a game.
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thats probably because there playing against a side thats causing it
corralling is caused by players not running hard enough & not maning up & not backing up
most times its caused by the apple turnover :lol which we all know we do well
then theres the other thought that comes to mind is it Tanking :lol
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Disagree. IMV players corral because they are frightened their opponent will get past them if they attempt to tackle them.
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It's been a long time since we've seen Tiger players break tackles so easily.
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It's been a long time since we've seen Tiger players break tackles so easily.
I actually saw tiger players tackling their man and applying pressure last night. Had to look twice several times.
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It's been a long time since we've seen Tiger players break tackles so easily.
Tackling been a bugbear of mine for years - storm have been over to teach the boys and hopefully now maturing into their bodies this will all come to fruition.
It's also called backing urself - don't think do ......
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Tackle that sticks is my mind is Johnson's on Judd in the 3rd.
It is called intensity. We were fierce and intense last night. Hopefully we remain that way and don't get overawed against the better sides and go back to corralling them and giving them chances to dispose of the ball. We will never get anywhere if we do not improve our tackling and increase the number of tackles we have averaged over the last few seasons. Was a pleasant sight watching our tackles stick and then watching our lads being able to break the oppositions tackles.
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Even if the kicker gets the ball away before the tackle, they do not have the time to weigh and select an option and they can no longer select the moment at which they can release the ball. They stop being able to dictate terms. This is pressure and causes mistakes and turn overs. It's harder work for the defensive side and requires greater fitness and harder bodies but there is no substitute and will win matches. The harder fitter more aggressive side will always win. Our boys appear to be maturing and are becoming able to apply this sort of pressure.
We can apply more pressure than Carlton but can we apply more pressure than Geelong. These teams are at opposite ends of the scale. Last year we were stone cold motherless last in this area without a doubt. Where are we ranked this year?
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We can apply more pressure than Carlton but can we apply more pressure than Geelong. These teams are at opposite ends of the scale. Last year we were stone cold motherless last in this area without a doubt. Where are we ranked this year?
Still far closer to Carlton than Geelong but I think we'll find over the year we aren't the worst side anymore. Having our players fit helps so they can apply second and third efforts. HT74 is right - it's all about intensity. In the first half we were corralling and there was little pressure from our forwards and that allowed Carlton to just break through the lines. It was just weak and soft until we started to turn it around in the 10 minutes before half-time. In the second half we hunted 1-on-1 and supported each other and our forwards worked hard to keep the ball in our forward line. There was a period in the third quarter where the ball was in our forward line for about 5 minutes. We didn't turn that into a score which was disappointing but the pressure we applied was terrific. IIRC that was when Sugar nailed Judd as HT74 said.
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Anyone want to see the stupidity of corralling just watch the highlights of the Bulldogs-Adelaide game where a Crows player hangs off corralling Brad Johnson and all it does is give Johnson time to steady and kick a goal.
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Amazing what happens when a team finally starts applying physical pressure on the opposition compared to our soft efforts when this thread was started. Last week people can say Freo were shocking and slack but today I thought our pressure and tackling was the best it's been in years. It must be a while since we registered more tackles than the opposition. People can still criticize our skill level but the workrate has been excellent the past 2 weeks.
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MT for me personally thats what i enjoyed most today. yes we drew but to see these 1% time and time again was fantastic.
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Lids tackle on Griffen was an absolute ripper :thumbsup
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Much better today. :clapping
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I agree MT. Instead of taking the netball approach by standing there with arms stretched giving the opposition plenty of time to dispose we actually took our chances and went for the man with the ball. :clapping I'd prefer a player going hard at the man every time rather than every time standing off and attempting to spoil a pass. If we got the reputation that all our players are going to go at the opposition whenever they get the ball it would have to have some impact in the mind of opposition players. Sure a few holes may appear but if we commit and make effective tackles, more often than not I would bet that their diposal would not be clean.
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Tiger Nathan Brown celebrates side's tackling pressure
Mark Stevens | April 23, 2008
NATHAN Brown may have had trouble reading the scoreboard on Sunday, but he had no problem getting a feel for another set of numbers.
The Richmond forward, who for a moment thought his side had won, at least had a hunch he might be celebrating a rare victory of another kind.
Throughout the clash with the Western Bulldogs, he could sense a seismic shift. The Tigers were tackling and harassing as never before.
"I think you saw that our competitiveness and our tackling pressure and our defensive pursuits in the game was something I've never seen before," Brown said.
"We've always been a side that hasn't tackled or put a lot of pressure on."
Brown said tackling might be the difference between the Tigers being "good" and "ordinary".
And he's on to something.
Richmond won the tackle count 50 to 46 in the thriller at Telstra Dome.
It was the first time the Tigers had won the tackling tussle since Round 10, 2007.
That just happened to produce a draw at the Dome as well -- this time against the Brisbane Lions.
After that game, the Tigers lost 16 tackle counts straight.
But against the Dogs, the Tigers turned ferocious again.
Captain Kane Johnson laid eight tackles, Richard Tambling had six, Jay Schulz four and Chris Newman four.
As a result, the Bulldogs were pressured into errors.
The Dogs could hit the target only 71 per cent of the time. Richmond found the mark 78 per cent of the time.
Who would have thought Richmond, often criticised for poor decision-making and sloppy kicking, would have out-skilled the Dogs?
Under Terry Wallace, Richmond has won the tackle count in only 25 of 71 games.
The Tigers have a tackle count differential of minus 470 under Wallace. That is 140 worse than any other team.
Traditionally, Wallace teams haven't been big on tackling.
In the six completed seasons of Wallace's career covered by Champion Data (2000-2002 at the Bulldogs and 2005-2007 at Richmond), the best one of his teams could do on the tackling ladder was 13th - in 2005.
Some would query why it's so important to be big on tackling.
The cynical view is that if you're tackling, you haven't got the pill.
But premiership teams are generally high on the tackling table. Sydney was first in 2005, West Coast sixth in 2006 and Geelong second last year.
And Wallace has clearly decided enough is enough. If you don't tackle and turn up the pressure, you don't play.
It is a key reason why Joel Bowden, such a valuable set-up player in defence, is still stranded at Coburg.
The four players dropped after the Round 3 shocker against Collingwood did not lay one tackle between them.
There is a correlation between tackling and error rates in the opposition.
The Tigers are still 16th for tackles this year, but the numbers are slightly artificial.
They are lowered by the fact they had only 25 tackles against Fremantle at Subiaco Oval in Round 4.
The Tigers won by 64 points. It ended up being ridiculously easy. The Dockers couldn't get their hands on it to be tackled.
So the key figure for the Tigers this year is the fact they have managed to cut the opposition's average effective disposal rate to 75.8 per cent - only the ninth highest.
In Wallace's first three years at Punt Rd, the opposition's rate of effectiveness was about 80 per cent.
Put simply, the enemy was winning it too easily and using it cleanly without enough pressure.
But Wallace has turned the pressure up.
He's decided it's time to delve into the tackle box.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23582748-19742,00.html
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But Wallace has turned the pressure up.
He's decided it's time to delve into the tackle box.
Do you think it may have sunk into their thick skulls? Boy do I hope so. Kudos to TW for being able to change his style if its true, though blind Freddy could have seen what was needed. Can't count how many time tackling and pressure has been brought up by simple supporters on these forums. Better late than never.
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But Wallace has turned the pressure up.
He's decided it's time to delve into the tackle box.
Do you think it may have sunk into their thick skulls? Boy do I hope so. Kudos to TW for being able to change his style if its true, though blind Freddy could have seen what was needed. Can't count how many time tackling and pressure has been brought up by simple supporters on these forums. Better late than never.
and by some clever ones as well.
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But Wallace has turned the pressure up.
He's decided it's time to delve into the tackle box.
Do you think it may have sunk into their thick skulls? Boy do I hope so. Kudos to TW for being able to change his style if its true, though blind Freddy could have seen what was needed. Can't count how many time tackling and pressure has been brought up by simple supporters on these forums. Better late than never.
and by some clever ones as well.
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lol. I can only speak for myself. ;) :thumbsup
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Our pressure and tackling were the most pleasing aspects of Sundays game IMO.
Must maintain that intensity every week.
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Our pressure and tackling were the most pleasing aspects of Sundays game IMO.
Must maintain that intensity every week.
yep forget about the score, goals and any other stuff like that.
our tackling really set the game up for us. i expect to see that every week and my question to wallace is why now??
why didnt he instill that into joel and others last year.
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i expect to see that every week and my question to wallace is why now??
why didnt he instill that into joel and others last year.
A question you will probably never get a satisfactory answer to. Don't really care about the answer myself as long as they have finally got the message and, as you say, we see the same each and every week.
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i expect to see that every week and my question to wallace is why now??
why didnt he instill that into joel and others last year.
A question you will probably never get a satisfactory answer to. Don't really care about the answer myself as long as they have finally got the message and, as you say, we see the same each and every week.
Geelong has made everyone else change their ways of thinking from that over-possession style of the Swans that was a cure for insomnia. Good to see those in charge can change which is something Spud never could do. Footy played now is the best it's been in years and the style we've played over the past 2 weeks is great to watch. The hard tacklng and pressure is also something that will stack up in finals when we finally get there in the next few years.
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i expect to see that every week and my question to wallace is why now??
why didnt he instill that into joel and others last year.
A question you will probably never get a satisfactory answer to. Don't really care about the answer myself as long as they have finally got the message and, as you say, we see the same each and every week.
Geelong has made everyone else change their ways of thinking from that over-possession style of the Swans that was a cure for insomnia. Good to see those in charge can change which is something Spud never could do. Footy played now is the best it's been in years and the style we've played over the past 2 weeks is great to watch. The hard tacklng and pressure is also something that will stack up in finals when we finally get there in the next few years.
Yep we are back to the glory days of the mid 90's when football was at its best with blokes of the ilk of Carey Lockett Ablett Dunstall turning it on week by week and none of this flooding crap that has put the game in disrepute. Fast moving hard tackling physical footy is what we want to see and its fantastic we have been playing it the last 2 weeks. :thumbsup
Hopefully this continues and we can finally kiss goodbye 120 minutes of that bullskata tempo footy.
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i expect to see that every week and my question to wallace is why now??
why didnt he instill that into joel and others last year.
A question you will probably never get a satisfactory answer to. Don't really care about the answer myself as long as they have finally got the message and, as you say, we see the same each and every week.
Geelong has made everyone else change their ways of thinking from that over-possession style of the Swans that was a cure for insomnia. Good to see those in charge can change which is something Spud never could do. Footy played now is the best it's been in years and the style we've played over the past 2 weeks is great to watch. The hard tacklng and pressure is also something that will stack up in finals when we finally get there in the next few years.
Yep we are back to the glory days of the mid 90's when football was at its best with blokes of the ilk of Carey Lockett Ablett Dunstall turning it on week by week and none of this flooding crap that has put the game in disrepute. Fast moving hard tackling physical footy is what we want to see and its fantastic we have been playing it the last 2 weeks. :thumbsup
Hopefully this continues and we can finally kiss goodbye 120 minutes of that bullskata tempo footy.
We only now need to give AA and his rules committee the flick and we'll be in nirvana :thumbsup. The game thankfully evolved naturally and sorted itself out before these clowns brought in any more stupid interpretations and rules.
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I like this photo and caption. :thumbsup
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6000513,00.jpg)
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Yep that's a great photo RROFO.
Would still like to see Deledio lift his tackle count considerably though.
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Lids has big arms for a boy that was 20 yoa last week. Gunna end up a big unit.
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I’d like an answer too, because it seems to me that we’re just making this up as we go along.
RFC is paying mega bucks to someone to learn the art of coaching, even though he’s been in the coaching system for over a decade. Good on him for changing things, but you have to wonder about the mentality of some of these coaches at times.
When Gieschen was coach they did a player surveyor and discovered that players weren’t talking enough out on the field.
No kidding. I reckon they coulda saved themselves some time by sitting in the stands with supporters and seeing the green froth coming from the mouths of those who were screaming “talk”.
It seems to me that some of these coaches continue longer than their use by date dictates simply because those who appoint them have even less of a clue about what’s going on than the coaches they appoint.
And I have to question whether RFC actually knows that TW knows what he’s doing, or whether, like the rest of us, they’re just living in hope.
The perception I have is that it’s the blind leading the blind.
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We still don't lay as many tackles as other sides but what I liked about last night was when we had the chance to nail a Saint we made sure of it by taking him (in)to ground.
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How many tackles did McMahon have last night, big round number I bet ::)
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Lids has big arms for a boy that was 20 yoa last week. Gunna end up a big unit.
needs to make sure he doesnt get any bigger, he is big enough as is it is already to play the role he is needed for. great courage and leadership towards the end last night to :thumbsup
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How many tackles did McMahon have last night, big round number I bet ::)
Naa he had 2 but it was other things about his game that was just deplorable, mostly his "great" kicking that we drafted him for. :banghead
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How many tackles did McMahon have last night, big round number I bet ::)
Naa he had 2 but it was other things about his game that was just deplorable, mostly his "great" kicking that we drafted him for. :banghead
Mcmahon is a joke full stop
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How many tackles did McMahon have last night, big round number I bet ::)
Naa he had 2 but it was other things about his game that was just deplorable, mostly his "great" kicking that we drafted him for. :banghead
Mcmahon is a joke full stop
We need to keep McMahon in the team...
...at least Jack is leaving TW alone.
:thumbsup
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How many tackles did McMahon have last night, big round number I bet ::)
Naa he had 2 but it was other things about his game that was just deplorable, mostly his "great" kicking that we drafted him for. :banghead
Mcmahon is a joke full stop
We need to keep McMahon in the team...
...at least Jack is leaving TW alone.
:thumbsup
yes leave mcmahon in the team, thats going to win u games isn't it.
right now he is the most pathetic football player in this team.
never once do i see him produce any defencive pressure, not blood-y once.
i put him in the same boat as pathetic pettifer. both useless footballers
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Newman is the most out of form player in the side at present
His missing players by foot
His decision making is at its worst
His tackling is like a 12 year old kid hanging onto you, Harvey, Milne both goals to just start but there were many more
Now his on the footy handball lets see if he can win this cause he cant hit poo on the ground ;D
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5, 5, 10, 10 ,10, 7, 10, 10, 7, 7, = 81 to leon Davis 59
makes you wonder why his so out of form when l know he can do better :banghead
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its funny but i read a article about our tackling and how its improived out of sight. well it hasn't.
last night was a disgrace as was last week and to let harvey break free resulting in more than one goal is pathetic.
here is a old man and not one person can lay a tackle. what the hell is going on??
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have to give Harvey credit, his a powerful man & most likely would have brushed most players off.
but he wouldnot have kicked a goal if a better tackle was layed
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Our intensity is good enough, our tackling execution is still nowhere near the right level.
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dont agree jezza, we tackled well, and it was mainly unrewarded, so many times we tackled players and they dropped the ball or threw the ball yet no free kicks were paid. its time terry spoke up about the umpiring and not just the game.
whites pass was over 15 also, and in teh last q, they were tackled , holding the ball dropping the ball and then directly hitting the ball over the bouindary. now this was right in our fwd line , 3 free kicks in 5 seconds yet not one paid!
stuff the maggots
add to that g train holding richo in the sqaure where they then goaled, and also g train holing mguane unfairly where they goaled
once again, stuff the umpires
in the last q, montagna got frees off the ball, cos hyde(who smashed him) was apparantly holding him, well birss was doing all stuffing night to foley and where were his free kicks. foley even spoke to the umpires but they are deaf idiots
once again, stuff the umpires
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Get a grip
Robert Walls | May 27, 2008
I WAS always taught that tackling was an attitude thing. If you wanted to do it, you did it. And if you wanted to be mean and hurt, then you threw in some aggro and spite. Intent was more important than technique. Years ago, there were thousands of crude tackling attempts that gave away an abundance of free kicks. But it was accepted because the fierceness shown and the black eyes and broken noses that resulted were considered par for the course.
Not now, though, as specialist tackling coaches are employed by all clubs. Now all players are expected to be able to tackle effectively without giving away free kicks. In fact, players are taught to tackle to win free kicks. Forwards, who for years deemed tackling to be low on their priority order, now have it rammed down their throats that unless they tackle with great intensity, they won't be selected.
Proof of this changing dynamic in football was no more evident than what we saw in the round just gone.
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Now it's onto the MCG for the Dreamtime game. Richmond's intensity and tackling pressure is too much for the young Bombers to withstand. The Tigers apply 65 tackles, the second-highest tally they have ever recorded. Nathan Foley is best afield. He has the most disposals with 32 and, quite significantly, he also records the most tackles for the game, with eight.
Playing up forward for Richmond are the experienced Joel Bowden and Kayne Pettifer. Both have spent a month playing for Coburg. Both now know that unless they change their ways and tackle with purpose and passion, their careers will be terminated. The expectations on all players to work extremely hard when they haven't got the ball has never been greater.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/get-a-grip/2008/05/26/1211653938400.html
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RFC tackles after 9 rounds
Total Avg
Johnson 33 4.1
Tambling 30 3.3
Foley 29 3.2
King 26 2.9
Tuck 25 2.8
White 22 3.1
Newman 20 2.2
Deledio 17 1.9
McMahon 16 1.8
McGuane 15 3.0
Riewoldt 15 2.5
Pattison 14 1.8
Moore 14 1.6
Brown 14 1.6
Schulz 13 1.6
Simmonds 12 1.3
Morton 11 1.8
Thursfield 10 1.1
Hyde 10 1.4
Pettifer 10 2.5
Edwards 9 1.5
Polak 9 1.3
Jackson 8 2.0
Bowden 7 1.4
Polo 6 6.0
Richardson 5 0.6
Howat 2 2.0
Raines 2 1.0
Cotchin 2 1.0
Tivendale 0 0.0
Hughes 0 0.0
http://finalsiren.com/Fixture.asp?SeasonID=2008&TeamID=8&Sort=Tackles%20Desc#Player
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Did anyone else notice a difference in our tackling against Essendon?
I noticed a couple of times our boys really wrapping the player up then using their body as leverage to bring the player to the ground. Couple of times I felt I was watching the NRL. This is the first time that I have actually noticed an effect on our tackling from coaching we get from the Storm. When a player get caught in one of those tackles they are not going anywhere.
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Did anyone else notice a difference in our tackling against Essendon?
I noticed a couple of times our boys really wrapping the player up then using their body as leverage to bring the player to the ground. Couple of times I felt I was watching the NRL. This is the first time that I have actually noticed an effect on our tackling from coaching we get from the Storm. When a player get caught in one of those tackles they are not going anywhere.
Tambling tackling/pressure was top shelf.
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Did anyone else notice a difference in our tackling against Essendon?
I noticed a couple of times our boys really wrapping the player up then using their body as leverage to bring the player to the ground. Couple of times I felt I was watching the NRL. This is the first time that I have actually noticed an effect on our tackling from coaching we get from the Storm. When a player get caught in one of those tackles they are not going anywhere.
Yeah it was noticeable RROFO. There were also signs of it in the Saints game where we dominated the contested possessions around stoppages. Good to see us finally driving opponents into the turf in the tackle.
It's pleasing to see Whitey up there as one of our best tacklers.
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Tackling a team tag: Wallace
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
4:09 PM Wed 28 May, 2008
THE STAT deemed most important seems to go in cycles, and tackling is currently getting its time in the sun.
Once just a part of the much talked about but not really quantified 'one-percenters', tackling is the flavour of the month statistic it seems.
Tigers coach Terry Wallace says while tackling isn't the main indicator of how a team is travelling, it's certainly up there.
"I think our tackle count was the best that we'd had for the year, and it's something that we've had a strong emphasis on," he said.
"I think it's been something that's been pretty strong across the competition in general, but we believe that we've really improved in that part of our game, and they're the sort of things that we really want to be focusing on.
"I think it's one of the key indicators, but I don't think it's the only key indicator. I think what happens with this game is that everyone's trying to get an angle or get ahead of somebody else -- whether it be Hawthorn's rolling zone, or higher tackle efforts, or more interchange rotations – everyone's trying to get ahead of everyone else.
"So what happens is one part of the game will step up to a higher degree than where it's been previously. In recent times, the defensive aspects of the game have probably increased more so than other aspects of the game."
Wallace said tackling well was like a team-wide hard tag.
"We all go out and put taggers on keyline players, and you're doing that to not allow the best players in the land to have their own way.
"The tackling aspect is trying to do that over the course of a whole team. It's putting pressure on them not to be able to use their skills and their ability to the degree that they want to.
"The last two years we've had the Melbourne Storm boys down working with us on tackling technique, and they've done a heck of a lot of work with these guys in that area."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=60406
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I've just been reading on EOTT about Wallace going on about tackling and 'teams that are not prepared to pressurise their opponents will pay a hefty price'.
He's making it sounds as though he's discovered some new kind of football technique, when in fact it's well known and has been for years, that tackling is a very important part of the game.
Also, our tackling and pressure has improved this past 5 weeks, we're still 16th for tackles per game.
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I've just been reading on EOTT about Wallace going on about tackling and 'teams that are not prepared to pressurise their opponents will pay a hefty price'.
He's making it sounds as though he's discovered some new kind of football technique, when in fact it's well known and has been for years, that tackling is a very important part of the game.
Also, our tackling and pressure has improved this past 5 weeks, we're still 16th for tackles per game.
Better late than never as far as Plough seeing the light. We're still mostly a young side so you would hope the tackle count heads upwards as the side matures in 2-3 years time.
We didn't have to tackle much last week because Essendon are crap :D.
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How can we fall off so dramatically. One handed tackles is a disgrace no matter how many games you have played. Some of the senior players should be ashamed of themselves
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How can we fall off so dramatically. One handed tackles is a disgrace no matter how many games you have played. Some of the senior players should be ashamed of themselves
Back to 2016 tackling skill
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How can we fall off so dramatically. One handed tackles is a disgrace no matter how many games you have played. Some of the senior players should be ashamed of themselves
It's an indictment on our senior players that a 19 y.o. kid in his first game is showing more intent with his tackles than they are
Kudos MR Jr :clapping