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Title: Freo match thread
Post by: one-eyed on June 03, 2006, 07:10:08 PM
Tiges: unchanged

Freo: Headland in; Longmuir out

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 07:38:53 PM
No breeze. Cool night.

Bench: Knobel, Foley, Meyer and White.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 07:46:40 PM
Gas on Medhurst, Rainesy on Farmer, Pettifer against Dodds, Hyde v Schammer

Cogs took the mark in front of goal  but they penalised Staff for the screen  ::).

Joel stepped over the goalsquare with the kick-in. Bell gets the first goal from the resulting bounce.
 
Tiges 0.1-1
Freo   1.1-7
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 07:48:34 PM
Staff goals  :gotigers

Tiges  1.1-7
Freo   1.1-7
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 07:56:51 PM
Trent should kerb his enthusiasm.  Given away a stupid free and now a 50  :banghead
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 07:58:36 PM
Knobel in the ruck, Simmo forward, Paddy Bowden off. Tivs on Bell.

Kellaway goals  :gotigers

Tiges  2.2-14
Freo   1.4-10
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 07:59:08 PM
Great goal by Kellaway roving the ball as it came off the pack  :thumbsup
Knobs off the ground to have a talk to the coach.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:00:59 PM
Hyde misses from 35m  :-\. Freo runs it up the end to Pavlich for a goal  :scream.

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:09:34 PM
Johnson vs Josh Carr.

Falling down at FF. We've had enough entries.

QT.

Tiges  2.4-16
Freo   3.4-22

Best: Cogs, Tuck, Hyde, Paddy Bowden.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: strav on June 03, 2006, 08:16:13 PM
Bell out injured
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:17:47 PM
Paddy goal  :gotigers

Tiges 3.4-22
Freo  3.4-22
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 08:18:25 PM
Patty Bowden goal - had 12 possies so far  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: strav on June 03, 2006, 08:18:49 PM
 :gotigers
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 08:20:12 PM
We got dudded a goal last qtr - was over the line i reckon when it was touched  :banghead
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:21:34 PM
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Simmo goals. Up yours Harvey

4.4-28 a piece
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:24:57 PM
Joel makes another mistake kicking out OOF. Freo goal then goal again  :help. C'mon Tiges

What a joke deliberate OOB rule is  >:(. Pettifer was kicking the ball forward.

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 08:27:16 PM
Most disgusting decision.  Petts kicked the ball off the ground becasue he was under pressure and couldn't pick up.  It went forward about thirty metres and went out of bounds.  They called it deliberate.

What's he supposed to do?  Worst decision i've ever seen.

The crowd called deliberate but more was wishful thinking me thinks.  The umps got sucked in
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:29:15 PM
Knobel misses twice  :help
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:31:28 PM
Tivs goals  :gotigers

Tiges 5.6-36
Freo  6.5-41
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 08:34:12 PM
Great goal Foley, front and square  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:35:40 PM
White sounds as though he's doing alright in his first game.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:37:26 PM
Simmo goals from a Sandilands howler  :rollin

Tiges  7.6-48
Freo   6.5-41
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 08:37:55 PM
Simmo goal.  I thought Tambo have got a free dead in front for an illegal shepherd
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:43:11 PM
Who is on Michael Johnson? He's keeping Freo in the game.

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 08:49:30 PM
HT Scores level 7.6-48 a piece.

We didn't make the most of being on top but at least we're level.

Cogs 22 possies. Paddy Bowden, Tuck our other best. Sugar is tagging Josh Carr and doing well. Our defence had done well.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:01:17 PM
Interesting stat - 2 contested marks for the game so far
Just possession footy
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:04:16 PM
Interesting stat - 2 contested marks for the game so far
Just possession footy

Wallace is outcoaching Connolly. If Freo gets a run on we shut the game down and play tempo (possession) footy.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:11:30 PM
Bugger Polo missed after a great move.

Blingers misses his set shot as well  :-\.

Hyde goals  :gotigers

Tiges  8.8-56
Freo   7.6-48
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:13:13 PM
Free kick Petts and goals

Tiges 9.8-62
Freo  7.6-48
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:21:16 PM
Freo last 3 goals  :banghead. We need to lift our intensity as Freo has lifted.

Tiges  9.9-63
Freo   10.6-66

Umps sucked in by the crowd again  ::)

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:24:53 PM
Wow, lucky Headland missed - Petts head would have been in the stands lol
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:26:27 PM
Headland reported for being a gutless idiot  >:(.

Hyde puts us back in front  :gotigers

Tiges  10.9-69
Freo   10.7-67
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:28:52 PM
Tuck luckily goals  :gotigers

Tiges 11.10-76
Freo  10.7-67
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:29:51 PM
Don't think Headland connected, but he meant to hit him.  Can he go for that?
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:38:39 PM
6PR said he got reported and was looking at 2-3 weeks. Maybe they thought he connected.

3/4 time

Tiges  11.11-77
Freo    10.8-68

9 individual goalkickers

Best: Cogs, Paddy, Tuck, Hyde, Pettifer
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:39:31 PM
I actually thought he got reported for rough play, slamming him into the ground.  The attempted hit was a bonus lol
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on June 03, 2006, 09:42:40 PM
Don't think Headland connected, but he meant to hit him.  Can he go for that?

Atempted Striking,  you sure can go for that.  The WA radio guys say he will get 2-3 weeks    :lol
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:44:05 PM
Newmo great courage backing back for a mark  :bow - might have got hurt
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:45:42 PM
All the comentators have been saying is Freo will clean Richmond up if they turn it over.
Freo turned it over - Cogs goasl lol  :rollin
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:49:12 PM
Petts reported - just going for the punch - and he gets a 50 as well
Umps don't like him tonight
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 09:50:48 PM
Pettifer reported and even the 6PR guys say it was soft.

Headland definitely reported.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 09:53:58 PM
White you beauty  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 10:00:15 PM
Bugger lucky goal to Freo. Tiges by 7.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 10:02:46 PM
Ray Hall runs too far in front of their goal  :banghead
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 10:03:40 PM
Goal to Freo thanks to a brain implosion from Razor  :banghead
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: strav on June 03, 2006, 10:04:21 PM
take Hall off
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 10:05:57 PM
Polo robbed a mark and Freo gets a goal. Bloody Umpires  :banghead
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 10:07:48 PM
11 points down :(

We tried to save it instead of win it.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 10:08:14 PM
We were robbed by the same thing - on the line
And they were just given one
Same situation - home town decision  :banghead
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 10:13:16 PM
Gee I wonder why Freo can win at home and not away. Handy when you have 3 extra men.

 >:(

The one that got away  :(
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 10:13:22 PM
Same thing there - hyde got tackled without the ball in front of goal.
If he'd got a free, it would have been 5 point margin - take into account those two goals - and the one where Polo marked and they allowed them to play on and goal - you work it out.
Robbed.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: julzqld on June 03, 2006, 10:19:07 PM
I don't understand that last goal Freo got.  Ray definitely touched the ball.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 10:29:05 PM
The umps were a joke all night  >:(. It might have been 17-all but it felt like their frees and the ones not paid to us resulted in soft goals to them.

Razor's brain implosion where he played on in our backline when he didn't have to and ran too far and Polo's not paid mark changed the course of the game.

We needed another goal when we were in front. We went too early and safe with the possession game. When Simmonds marked 70m out going back to Joel 35m was just too negative.

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Bulluss on June 03, 2006, 10:34:04 PM
Fu&*ing umpires were a joke.

Did Hall actually run too far, is it how many steps or how far you travel in distance?

Like already stated, Polo marked that ball and the goal we kicked in the second qtr IIRC was through also.

Replays clearly showed Razor touching that ball.

Also disappointing to see us shut up shop so early. Staff gave us nothing up forward, should have played Cleve.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on June 03, 2006, 10:38:16 PM
We got butchered all night...however we must also state the truth and the truth is 2 seriously bad errors made things bad for us
Coughlan missed mark, Hall brain explosion and there were way 2 many fumbling. Gaspar and Hall cant play in the same side.

I liked Whites capacity to score, Dean Polo was ok- bad miss when firing on goal- should have got it, he was very stiff with the unpaid mark in the last, Meyer was thereabouts as was Tambling. Pattison is improving. For mine, looking forward always i think its pretty clear that Gaspar and Stafford and Hall cant be in the side unless necessary, Hall is good trade bait, and we still have plenty improvement to make.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Moi on June 03, 2006, 11:01:42 PM
Did Hall actually run too far, is it how many steps or how far you travel in distance?
I'm not really sure he did, Bull.  I reckon he didn't, but they took into account his couple of steps forward and then back before he headed off in the direction he went.  It was too close to call and shouldn't have been paid if there was any doubt - and there was. 
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 11:06:52 PM
Even the 6PR guys said we got nobbled by the umps in the last 5 minutes. Umpire Davis was the main culprit.

We needed just one of Patto and Staff as we had Simmo and Knobel doing the ruck. We should have played Clever or Jackson as a leading forward as we fell down badly at FF. Staff is too slow and is out of the contest once the ball hits the ground.

We also had a couple of chances to go 20+ points up but missed and kept Freo in the game. Whoever was on Michael Johnson let us down badly. He single-handedly kept Freo in it for the first 3 quarters.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on June 03, 2006, 11:10:04 PM
Tonight is just another indication that hard decisions need to be made on players like Hall. Stafford and Gaspar are already gone for mine or they should be, but for us to improve as a club then players like Ray probably need to be moved on because in terms of a premiership unit, probably hes a 23 to 30 ranked player.
Title: Freo match stats
Post by: one-eyed on June 04, 2006, 12:06:27 AM
Team stats

Kicks        208 - 205   
Marks       120 - 116   
Handballs  122 - 92   
Tackles       45 - 68   
Hitouts        36 - 32   
Frees         17 - 17

Individual stats

Player          K  H  D  M  HO  T  FF  FA  G  B
M.Coughlan 23 12 35 9 0 4 2 2 1 0
S.Tuck        19   9 28 12 1 3 1 1 1 0
P.Bowden    17  7 24 12 1 6 2 1 1 0
J.Bowden    17  6 23 8 0 3 2 2 0 0
C.Hyde       12  8 20 6 0 2 1 0 2 2
G.Tivendale 12  7 19 4 0 2 0 0 1 0
K.Pettifer    15  3 18 7 0 2 1 2 1 0
A.Raines     11 6 17 6 0 0 0 0 0 0
R.Hall           8 7 15 8 0 2 0 3 0 0
A.Kellaway  11  4 15 5 0 2 1 1 1 0
D.Polo          6  9 15 3 0 2 0 1 0 1
T.Simmonds 10 4 14 6 20 0 0 0 2 0
D.Gaspar       4 8 12 5 0 3 2 0 0 0
C.Newman     8 4 12 5 0 4 1 0 0 0
K.Johnson      5 6 11 3 0 0 1 0 0 1
N.Foley         5 4  9  3 0 3 0 0 1 0
D.Meyer        5 4  9  2 0 3 1 1 0 0
A.Pattison      3 6  9  3 1 1 2 0 0 1
R.Tambling     6 2  8  4 0 1 0 0 0 2
M.White         7 1  8  5 0 1 0 0 1 0
G.Stafford      2 3  5  2 1 0 0 2 1 0
T.Knobel        2 2  4  2 12 1 0 1 0 1


Top 5's

Ranking Points

P.Bowden    166
Coughlan     151
Tuck            149
Peake          136
M.Johnson   129 

Contested possies

Coughlan     13
M.Johnson    9
Pavlich          9
P.Bowden     8
Tivendale      8

Uncontested possies

Coughlan        21
Peake            21
Tuck              20
McManus       17
P.Bowden      16

Effective kicks

Coughlan       19
P.Bowden      17
Peake            16
Tuck              16
J.Bowden       13

Inside 50

Medhurst        7
Peake            6
Headland        6
Pavlich           5
Coughlan       4

Rebound 50

Tuck             9
J.Bowden      7
Mundy          6
Raines          5
P.Bowden     3     
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Tiger Spirit on June 04, 2006, 03:22:32 PM
Haven’t been this disappointed about a loss in a while.

We seemed to be going like winners at various stages throughout the match but never really managed to put the game away at any stage.

Not saying anything about some of the ‘home town’ umpiring decisions.  Don’t think I’ll be able to watch that game again for some time, unless it’s in a straight jacket and wearing a muzzle.

While I’m at it, please someone tell me what is it about the FoxFooty telecast from Perth.  Are they from another galaxy or something?  Why do they incessantly pan to the bench when play is frantically in progress, or when a player is having a shot for goal?  Isn’t that partly why they have commentators – to tell us what’s going on that we cannot see?  Isn’t it simple to say, Joe Blogs is running off the field, instead of completely forgetting about the fact that play is in progress and switching to a player walking off the ground or sitting on the bench?  Why is it a hard decision to make which piece of ‘action’ to go with? :banghead

I’m a fairly patient person and I’ll wait 1,000 years to see a Richmond premiership, if I have to.  Same can’t be said for my tolerance levels though, coz I reckon I lasted about 5 minutes listening to those commentators before the volume button came into play on the remote.

Please, please, please, please God, no more games in Perth that are telecast by FoxFooty.  Results and umpires aside, if the commentators don’t drive you nuts, the telecast will.

Anyway, now that that’s out of the way, for now, it was a fantastic effort by our players.  Obviously we still need to straighten a few things out, but considering the team that was out there, we can be proud of their efforts.

You certainly couldn’t question their application, commitment or anything like that.

One query I have though, can someone please explain to me why when the opposition kicks out, they seem to have a free run all the way down the ground to their F50?  I don’t know how often this happens, but it seems really noticeable in games at times.  Couldn’t imagine why we would intentionally allow that to go on, time after time, unless it’s just bad manning up by our players?  Instead of letting them kick out, we might as well just start play from their F50 line.

Moving right along.  P. Bowden was fantastic in the first half.  Some of his efforts were courageous.  And there were a number of courageous acts by players all game.

There were passages of play where it resembled more a rugby scrum and you just had to wait for the ball to spill out before either side could gain an advantage.  Neither side gave an inch.

It was a good game to learn from, especially for a young team in foreign conditions.  Although it doesn’t seem to be so much ‘foreign’ conditions; more like alien conditions.  I’m sure our players will look forward to getting onto the MCG in front of a home ground.

In the past when coaches have said they want their fans to turn up and give the interstate teams a taste of their own medicine, I thought it was just a bit of theatre.  But after last night’s game, makes you realise what they mean.

Nothing to be embarrassed about and we can take a lot of heart from that effort.  Just shows that TW’s message is getting through and players are improving and getting better.  Can’t complain about that.

Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 04, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
One query I have though, can someone please explain to me why when the opposition kicks out, they seem to have a free run all the way down the ground to their F50?  I don’t know how often this happens, but it seems really noticeable in games at times.  Couldn’t imagine why we would intentionally allow that to go on, time after time, unless it’s just bad manning up by our players?  Instead of letting them kick out, we might as well just start play from their F50 line.

You would need to hold up the kick-in and play a zone defence to prevent that. Problem is if the ball moved quickly from the kick-in which is likely under the new rule and it gets past the zone then their forward line is open. I think there's a bit of truth in your last sentence TS. Give up ground and make it difficult for them to enter their forward 50 then hope to catch them on the counter.
 
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There were passages of play where it resembled more a rugby scrum and you just had to wait for the ball to spill out before either side could gain an advantage.  Neither side gave an inch.

Blame the umps for that. Took them an eternity to blow the whistle for ball-ups.

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I’m sure our players will look forward to getting onto the MCG in front of a home ground.

In the past when coaches have said they want their fans to turn up and give the interstate teams a taste of their own medicine, I thought it was just a bit of theatre.  But after last night’s game, makes you realise what they mean.

Now we have to wait till....... whenever the next time we play them at the 'G whenever that is thanks to not playing every side home and away  :scream.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Tiger Spirit on June 04, 2006, 07:23:30 PM
You would need to hold up the kick-in and play a zone defence to prevent that. Problem is if the ball moved quickly from the kick-in which is likely under the new rule and it gets past the zone then their forward line is open. I think there's a bit of truth in your last sentence TS. Give up ground and make it difficult for them to enter their forward 50 then hope to catch them on the counter.

Maybe I’ll catch on soon MT.  Thanks for that.  Explains what I wanted to know. :thumbsup

One other thing, does this seem to happen more often against certain teams, or it’s just rough of the green kind of stuff?
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: mightytiges on June 04, 2006, 07:42:44 PM
You would need to hold up the kick-in and play a zone defence to prevent that. Problem is if the ball moved quickly from the kick-in which is likely under the new rule and it gets past the zone then their forward line is open. I think there's a bit of truth in your last sentence TS. Give up ground and make it difficult for them to enter their forward 50 then hope to catch them on the counter.

Maybe I’ll catch on soon MT.  Thanks for that.  Explains what I wanted to know. :thumbsup

One other thing, does this seem to happen more often against certain teams, or it’s just rough of the green kind of stuff?


I would need to check pro-stats but from memory the doggies are the best at going "coast-to-coast" from full-back and scoring. So yes some sides are much better at it than others. Going by the teams we've played I would say the Swans were the best at defending against a quick kick-in. They were quick to man-up which made it harder for us to get a kick-in. Mind you we didn't make it that hard for them with our lack of harding running for each other.

The simplest solution to avoiding the opposition kicking-in quickly and going the length of the ground is to kick the ball between the two big sticks in the first place. Polo and Hyde missed two very gettable shots which directly resulted in Freo goals. The old 2-goal turnaround. Joel stepping over the line and then kicking it OOF with two of his kick-ins resulted in another 2 goals for Freo. Add Cogs' dropped mark, Razor's brain implosion and Gas' fumble that's 3 more. Then add the dodgy umpiring (Polo's mark not paid, Medhurst's goal that was touched, Sugar's goal that was touched over the line) and that's 10 goals all up. It only takes a few crucial mistakes to make a huge difference to a result.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: Tiger Spirit on June 04, 2006, 09:27:37 PM
I would need to check pro-stats but from memory the doggies are the best at going "coast-to-coast" from full-back and scoring. So yes some sides are much better at it than others. Going by the teams we've played I would say the Swans were the best at defending against a quick kick-in. They were quick to man-up which made it harder for us to get a kick-in. Mind you we didn't make it that hard for them with our lack of harding running for each other.

I’m not prepared to go back and watch the game again just yet, as it would just be opening up festering wounds, so I’ll have to go from memory, but it seemed to me that there were times we made it too easy for Freo, when they were kicking out. The thing was that it seemed to come from nowhere all of a sudden.  The frustrating part was that I think it happened about 3 times in a short space of time and we didn’t seem to switch on to it.  But for the majority of the match our players seem to stick to their guns pretty well.

The simplest solution to avoiding the opposition kicking-in quickly and going the length of the ground is to kick the ball between the two big sticks in the first place. Polo and Hyde missed two very gettable shots which directly resulted in Freo goals. The old 2-goal turnaround. Joel stepping over the line and then kicking it OOF with two of his kick-ins resulted in another 2 goals for Freo. Add Cogs' dropped mark, Razor's brain implosion and Gas' fumble that's 3 more. Then add the dodgy umpiring (Polo's mark not paid, Medhurst's goal that was touched, Sugar's goal that was touched over the line) and that's 10 goals all up. It only takes a few crucial mistakes to make a huge difference to a result.

I think that all shows we’ve still got lots of work to do.  That game was good experience for the players because if we’re going to be a good side then they’ll be in that situation many times in the future.  With experience, hopefully we'll get a better result.
Title: Re: Freo match thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 04, 2006, 09:34:33 PM
Got to say I am a lot calmer now than I was last night after the game - sleep is a wonderful thing ;D

My demeanour was not helped last night by those feral Freo fans. And BTW they are stupid

But I maybe calmer but I am no less bitterly disappointed than I was last night.

Freo did not win that game we lost it.

The only word I could think of last night on the long flight back (with the majority of the team I might add) was

UNACCEPTABLE

7 minutes to go 14 points up you shouldn't lose.

I agree the umpires were terrible but in the last 7 minutes the umpires were not responsible for...

* Mark Coughlan dropping a chest mark 15 metres out from the Freo goal that resulted in the Carr getting a goal.

* Ray Hall's brain explosion

* Poor skill errors and decision making coming out to the back half in those final 7 minutes which included...

* trying to pinpoint passes to one on one contests when a 50 metre kick down the line would have served us better

* Joel Bowden running forward 60 metres out and having an empty goal square because Tambling and Simmonds are leading to a pocket and then kicking it to... Tambling who had 2 opponents

Gee I feel better now  ;D

Did Hall actually run too far, is it how many steps or how far you travel in distance?

Distance travelled. Ray got himself into trouble and should have conceded a behind. He took the mark. He then took 2 steps off the line and was called to play on, then he went 3 steps forward, 5 back, 4 sideways and then ran without bouncing for about 8-9 steps. That's close to 20 steps in my book.

I will give credit to Freo when we tried to slow it down they played man on man and it stuffed us and some of blokes didn't know what to do. From that they will learn