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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 25, 2006, 12:20:50 PM
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2007 Fixture
1 Sunday, Apr 01 (Sun Twilight) Carlton MCG Away 5:10 pm
2 Saturday, Apr 07 (Day) Sydney MCG Home 2:10 pm
3 Friday, Apr 13 (Thu/Fri Night) Collingwood MCG Away 7:40 pm
4 Friday, Apr 20 (Thu/Fri Night) Western Bulldogs MCG Home 7:40 pm
5 Saturday, Apr 28 (Day) West Coast MCG Home 2:10 pm
6 Sunday, May 06 (Sun Twilight) Geelong Telstra Dome Home 5:10 pm
7 Saturday, May 12 (Day) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm
8 Friday, May 18 (Thu/Fri Night) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 7:10 pm
9 Saturday, May 26 (Night) Essendon MCG Home 7:10 pm
10 Saturday, Jun 02 (Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm
11 Sunday, Jun 10 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm
12 Friday, Jun 22 (Thu/Fri Night) Melbourne MCG Home 7:40 pm
13 Saturday, Jun 30 (Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm
14 Sunday, Jul 08 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos Telstra Dome Home 5:10 pm
15 Sunday, Jul 15 (Day) Hawthorn MCG Away 2:10 pm
16 Sunday, Jul 22 (Day) Port Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
17 Saturday, Jul 28 (Night) Sydney SCG Away 7:10 pm
18 Saturday, Aug 04 (Day) Geelong Skilled Stadium Away 2:10 pm
19 Friday, Aug 10 (Thu/Fri Night) Collingwood MCG Home 7:40 pm
20 Saturday, Aug 18 (Night) West Coast Subiaco Away 5:40 pm
21 Sunday, Aug 26 (Sun Twilight) Essendon MCG Away 5:10 pm
22 Saturday, Sep 01 (Day) St. Kilda MCG Home 2:10 pm
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Four bloody twilight games :gobdrop :gobdrop - geez the AFL seem to be trying to cash in on us. I hope the Club didn't request those :banghead
And I think there is massive mistake with the draw:
Sunday, Jul 22 (Day) Port Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm
Can't be right surely - we never play Port at the MCG - :rollin
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We've been classed as the big losers from the draw according to SEN.
Play Bottom 8 Twice 3
Play Top 8 Twice 4
Time Total Home Away
Day(Sat) 5 3 2
Day(Sun) 3 1 2
Total Day Game 8 4 4
Thu/Fri Night(Fri) 5 3 2
Night(Sat) 5 2 3
Sun Twilight(Sun) 4 2 2
Total Night Game 14 7 7
Venue Total Home Away
Telstra Dome 4 3 1
MCG 12 8 4
Skilled Stadium 1 0 1
Games In Victoria 17 11 6
Subiaco 2 0 2
AAMI Stadium 2 0 2
SCG 1 0 1
Games Outside Victoria 5 0 5
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The AFL have also released the Pre-season draw
and guess what we score Geelong at geelong in round one :banghead
1 Port Adelaide v Adelaide AAMI Stadium 23 February Friday (N) 19:10 19:40
2 Kangaroos v Collingwood Carrara 23 February Friday (N) 19:40 20:40
3 Western Bulldogs v Sydney Manuka Oval 24 February Saturday 15:40 15:40
4 Carlton v Essendon Telstra Dome 24 February Saturday (N) 18:10 18:10
5 St Kilda v Brisbane Lions Cazaly Stadium 24 February Saturday (N) 19:40 20:40
6 Geelong v Richmond Skilled Stadium 25 February Sunday 15:40 15:40
7 Melbourne v Hawthorn Telstra Dome 25 February Sunday (N) 18:10 18:10
8 Fremantle v West Coast Subiaco 25 February Sunday (N) 18:40 21:40
Round 2: if we get through we palyer either Port or Adel at TIO stadium - that's Darwin I think :-\
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=fixture&spg=nabcup07
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We've been classed as the big losers from the draw according to SEN.
At first glance it's a shocker - not because of who we play but because of when we play. 10 night games + 4 twilight games :gobdrop
Back to back trips to Adelaide .... :banghead why?
Only 8 home MCG games - they should have given us at least 9 to compensate for:
The 5 interstate trips
And the 4 twilight games that are going to struggle to attract crowds in the middle of winter and because they will be on Paytv and not everyone has Paytv so they wont be able to watch
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The order of opponents isn't bad but we've been absolutely screwed as far as times and venues go.
The new company they used was meant to reduce the number of 6 day breaks yet we get 7 ::).
4 twilight games that start at 5.10pm on a Sunday. That'll boost our crowds ::).
Geelong get 2 home games against us. The Dome is their home ground AFL >:(. We play the Roos at the Dome too which suits them.
Only 12 games at the 'G :banghead.
Rounds 4 - 8 and 11 - 13 will decide our year.
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Just loooking at the rest of the draw
Can anyone explain to me:
Why the Bulldogs get a HOME game at the MCG -v- Adel no less - that'll be a massive crowd :wallywink :banghead
Why Carlton get ...wait for it.... 5 home games at the MCG and only 6 home games at Telstra - hello Telstra is there home ground :banghead
Why Geelong get 1 home game at the MCG :banghead
Why North get 2 home games at the MCG when in Melbourne their home ground is supposed to be Telstra ::)
In the past I've been pretty understanding as to why teams have had to play home games at the Dome but NO MORE :banghead
But the clubs listed above shouldn't get home games at the MCG at the expense of MCG home teams - heck even the Pies only get 9 home games at the MCG.
IMHO Richmond, Melb, C'wood should all get 11 homes games at the MCG and then if there's room then others can get have their chop. Hawthorn don't deserve a guarantee because they are too busy selling their souls to Tassie :wallywink
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The AFL site has come up with what the draw means to each club from a football perspective and financial perspective.
Here's what they say about the Tigers:
RICHMOND:
Football:
Starts the year well with the first six games all in Melbourne - five of them at the MCG - but then it's all downhill from there. In rounds seven and eight it faces back-to-back games in Adelaide and also has to go to Perth twice as well as Sydney. And the Tigers are one of the few teams to meet both of last year's grand finalists in Sydney and West Coast twice. But at least they have 12 games at the MCG this year, compared to just nine in 2006.
Financial:
Doesn't have a big drawing home game until Essendon in round nine but does have an MCG, Friday night home game against Collingwood in round 19 and has the prime Friday night home spot again in round 12 when it hosts Melbourne at the MCG in the second half of the split round. And will be hoping the AFL's new Sunday twilight games are a success considering it plays more (five) than any other Victorian club.
Full article:
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=304285
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All those poor Vic clubs need $$$ to survive so they get home games against the Pies at the 'G ::). The Pies don't travel after round 12.
You don't want clubs to fold but it hard to have sympathy for them when we are paying for their financial problems. The AFL did us no favours with the draw when we lost money.
It's a farce!
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Our draw is a disgrace- Financially for the club its very bad- our gate receipts will get a hiding and second Its a very tough draw which will make it very hard to make the 8.
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Absolute rubbishe
I didn't say rubbishe
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6 Geelong v Richmond Skilled Stadium 25 February Sunday 15:40 15:40
Sunday at Geelong at 15:40 - wtf is that...
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Our draw is a disgrace- Financially for the club its very bad- our gate receipts will get a hiding and second Its a very tough draw which will make it very hard to make the 8.
If we're good enough we'll make the Eight but just from a financial point of view the Club should make an official protest to the AFL. Combine the NAB Cup draw with the first 8 rounds and we miss out big time dollar wise.
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Ramps analysis of the draw financial wise and result wise
1 Sunday, Apr 01 (Sun Twilight) Carlton MCG Away 5:10 pm- WIN Carlton gate- No Return for us
2 Saturday, Apr 07 (Day) Sydney MCG Home 2:10 pm- LOSS Richmond gate 40,000 people- Small Profit
3 Friday, Apr 13 (Thu/Fri Night) Collingwood MCG Away 7:40 pm- WIN Collingwood gate- No Return for us
4 Friday, Apr 20 (Thu/Fri Night) Western Bulldogs MCG Home 7:40 pm- LOSS 45,000 people- Small Profit
5 Saturday, Apr 28 (Day) West Coast MCG Home 2:10 pm- LOSS 35,000 people- Breakeven- Small Profit at Best
6 Sunday, May 06 (Sun Twilight) Geelong Telstra Dome Home 5:10 pm- WIN 38,000 people-Small Profit
7 Saturday, May 12 (Day) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm- LOSS No Return for us
8 Friday, May 18 (Thu/Fri Night) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 7:10 pm- LOSS No Return for us
9 Saturday, May 26 (Night) Essendon MCG Home 7:10 pm- WIN- 55,000 people- 1st Good Gate- Decent Profit
10 Saturday, Jun 02 (Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm- WIN- 30,000 people- Breakeven-Small Profit
11 Sunday, Jun 10 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm- LOSS- No Return for us
12 Friday, Jun 22 (Thu/Fri Night) Melbourne MCG Home 7:40 pm- LOSS 55,000 people- 2nd Good Gate- Decent Profit
13 Saturday, Jun 30 (Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm- LOSS- No Return for us
14 Sunday, Jul 08 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos Telstra Dome Home 5:10 pm- WIN- 30,000 people- breakeven
15 Sunday, Jul 15 (Day) Hawthorn MCG Away 2:10 pm- WIN- No return for us
16 Sunday, Jul 22 (Day) Port Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm- WIN- 35,000 people- small profit
17 Saturday, Jul 28 (Night) Sydney SCG Away 7:10 pm- LOSS- No return for us
18 Saturday, Aug 04 (Day) Geelong Skilled Stadium Away 2:10 pm- LOSS- No return for us
19 Friday, Aug 10 (Thu/Fri Night) Collingwood MCG Home 7:40 pm- WIN- 65,000 people- 3rd good gate-Decent Profit
20 Saturday, Aug 18 (Night) West Coast Subiaco Away 5:40 pm- LOSS- No return
21 Sunday, Aug 26 (Sun Twilight) Essendon MCG Away 5:10 pm- WIN- No return
22 Saturday, Sep 01 (Day) St. Kilda MCG Home 2:10 pm- LOSS- 55,000 people- 4th Good gate- Decent Profit
10 WINS
4 GOOD GATES
* Please note I understand that we do gate share with Essendon.
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6 Geelong v Richmond Skilled Stadium 25 February Sunday 15:40 15:40
Sunday at Geelong at 15:40 - wtf is that...
:lol 3.40pm I believe - stupid time for a game of footy
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This Twilight concept might work - but not on a Sunday FFS! :banghead
On a sunday arvo I'm usually hungover and tired and I'd imagine those with families would rather stay in.
I reckon it could possibly work if you played them on a saturday at 4.10 pm, following a 1.10 day game. That way those who want to do something else on their saturday evening can still make it out after and it gives the networks three time slots in the eastern states 1.10 pm (Day) 4.10 pm (Twilight) 7.10 pm (Night).
As far as the teams go, i don't mind going to Sydney and West Coast, we need to learn how to win interstate. The AFL just cannot bring themselves to give us 2 games against each of Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon can they?
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This Twilight concept might work - but not on a Sunday FFS! :banghead
On a sunday arvo I'm usually hungover and tired and I'd imagine those with families would rather stay in.
I reckon it could possibly work if you played them on a saturday at 4.10 pm, following a 1.10 day game. That way those who want to do something else on their saturday evening can still make it out after and it gives the networks three time slots in the eastern states 1.10 pm (Day) 4.10 pm (Twilight) 7.10 pm (Night).
Jake - you should be ashamed you've put far too much thought into that response - you'd never get a job at the AFL :rollin :rollin :thumbsup
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Gotta love the AFL's view on things ::)
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AFL round 1 clash for top two
October 25, 2006 12:00am
GRAND finalists Sydney Swans and West Coast Eagles will meet in Round 1 of the 2007 AFL competition.
They will meet at Sydney's Telstra Stadium on a Saturday night, the first time since 1990 that the two top teams of the previous season have met in the opening round.
Other notable facets of the 2007 draw, which was released today, include:
SUNDAY twilight games every weekend
THE Kangaroos will play their three home games at Carrara on the Gold Coast in Rounds four, eight and 12, with the first of those to be against the Brisbane Lions. The Roos will also open the NAB Cup at Carrara, against Collingwood, on Friday February 23.
COLLINGWOOD and Essendon will each have only a four-day break ahead of their Anzac Day clash at the MCG, which falls on a Wednesday in 2007.
HAWTHORN will play four home games in Launceston, up from three this season.
EACH club will travel interstate at least four times.
NO CLUB will be required to make consecutive interstate trips when one of those is a trip to Perth.
There has also been a change from the previous practice of having the teams which meet in the first seven rounds playing each other twice over the course of the season.
In past seasons, that has meant that Melbourne and Collingwood, which traditionally meet on the Queen's Birthday weekend, and Sydney and Collingwood, who clash during the mid-season split round, could play each other only once.
But in 2007 those match-ups will each occur twice.
AFL chief operating officer Ben Buckley, who released the schedule as well as the NAB Cup pre-season competition today, said that while the Seven and Ten networks are still negotiating with Foxtel to on-sell four games a weekend, he didn't expect any changes would be needed.
"We did the final construction of the fixture on the basis that there might be a number of different outcomes in relation to the television broadcast schedules,'' Buckley said.
"We think the fixture will be able to accommodate a number of different scenarios, ranging from Seven and Ten broadcasting all eight games to incorporating a sub-licence agreement with the pay television operator.
"We release the fixture every year subject to change, so this won't be anything new, but at this stage we don't think there will be any material changes to the fixture if certain outcomes from a broadcasting perspective ultimately occur.''
Buckley said it was anticipated the fixturing of games would lead to an overall attendance record in 2007.
"We think this is a fixture that will excite supporters and encourage them to attend games and to sign up as members,'' he said.
- AAP
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20642611-11088,00.html
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Tiger supporters are going ape on SEN about the draw :thumbsup.
One saying it just the Club two memberships because he can't take him and his son to Sunday evening footy.
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One saying it just the Club two memberships because he can't take him and his son to Sunday evening footy.
nah that can't be right because Ben Buckley said....
"We think this is a fixture that will excite supporters and encourage them to attend games and to sign up as members,'' he said.
from: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20642611-11088,00.html
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Ramps analysis of the draw financial wise and result wise
1 Sunday, Apr 01 (Sun Twilight) Carlton MCG Away 5:10 pm- WIN Carlton gate- No Return for us
2 Saturday, Apr 07 (Day) Sydney MCG Home 2:10 pm- LOSS Richmond gate 40,000 people- Small Profit
3 Friday, Apr 13 (Thu/Fri Night) Collingwood MCG Away 7:40 pm- WIN Collingwood gate- No Return for us
4 Friday, Apr 20 (Thu/Fri Night) Western Bulldogs MCG Home 7:40 pm- LOSS 45,000 people- Small Profit
5 Saturday, Apr 28 (Day) West Coast MCG Home 2:10 pm- LOSS 35,000 people- Breakeven- Small Profit at Best
6 Sunday, May 06 (Sun Twilight) Geelong Telstra Dome Home 5:10 pm- WIN 38,000 people-Small Profit
7 Saturday, May 12 (Day) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm- LOSS No Return for us
8 Friday, May 18 (Thu/Fri Night) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 7:10 pm- LOSS No Return for us
9 Saturday, May 26 (Night) Essendon MCG Home 7:10 pm- WIN- 55,000 people- 1st Good Gate- Decent Profit
10 Saturday, Jun 02 (Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm- WIN- 30,000 people- Breakeven-Small Profit
11 Sunday, Jun 10 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm- LOSS- No Return for us
12 Friday, Jun 22 (Thu/Fri Night) Melbourne MCG Home 7:40 pm- LOSS 55,000 people- 2nd Good Gate- Decent Profit
13 Saturday, Jun 30 (Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm- LOSS- No Return for us
14 Sunday, Jul 08 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos Telstra Dome Home 5:10 pm- WIN- 30,000 people- breakeven
15 Sunday, Jul 15 (Day) Hawthorn MCG Away 2:10 pm- WIN- No return for us
16 Sunday, Jul 22 (Day) Port Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm- WIN- 35,000 people- small profit
17 Saturday, Jul 28 (Night) Sydney SCG Away 7:10 pm- LOSS- No return for us
18 Saturday, Aug 04 (Day) Geelong Skilled Stadium Away 2:10 pm- LOSS- No return for us
19 Friday, Aug 10 (Thu/Fri Night) Collingwood MCG Home 7:40 pm- WIN- 65,000 people- 3rd good gate-Decent Profit
20 Saturday, Aug 18 (Night) West Coast Subiaco Away 5:40 pm- LOSS- No return
21 Sunday, Aug 26 (Sun Twilight) Essendon MCG Away 5:10 pm- WIN- No return
22 Saturday, Sep 01 (Day) St. Kilda MCG Home 2:10 pm- LOSS- 55,000 people- 4th Good gate- Decent Profit
10 WINS
4 GOOD GATES
* Please note I understand that we do gate share with Essendon.
Agree Ramps. Financially the draw sux.
Early rounds are hard to predict and there's usually heaps of upsets. Sydney are slow starters so getting them at home in round 2 is a good thing. We won at Port and Geelong this year so if we're good enough we shouldn't be afraid of either. On the other hand we haven't beaten the Roos at the Dome for years and the Hawks match could go either way. It's these games that will make or break our finals chances IMO.
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One saying it just the Club two memberships because he can't take him and his son to Sunday evening footy.
nah that can't be right because Ben Buckley said....
"We think this is a fixture that will excite supporters and encourage them to attend games and to sign up as members,'' he said.
from: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20642611-11088,00.html
They left out ".. unless it's Richmond". Best Friday night tv ratings and second biggest crowds and we get treated like an all-so-ran. I agree with the SEN caller that said March and Wright need to come out and say the RFC won't cop this crap.
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I have to say I'm disappointed and a bit surprised that there isn't a comment on the RFC web-site about how the Club feels about the draw
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I have to say I'm disappointed and a bit surprised that there isn't a comment on the RFC web-site about how the Club feels about the draw
They're still picking themselves up off the floor in shock ;).
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I am very interested to hear what they say >:(
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The club's response according to SEN News:
"It's only a marginally better draw than this year's"
???
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The only concern that i have with the twilight games is:
Do they serve Mid or Full strength beer? :D
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All I've got to say is Collingwood you luck S.O.Bs
Only 4 interstate trips :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop
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Tiger supporters are going ape on SEN about the draw :thumbsup.
Meanwhile, over on 3AW they went on about how the AFL had 15 happy clubs and only 1 unhappy one. Coincidentally, they had someone from the AFL come in and sing the praises of the draw.
Why 3AW insist on having an AFL employee go in and ‘answer’ questions (as if) about anything is beyond me. Maybe it’s just me, but most of the time I have to switch off, because my blood starts to boil, as what they say just sounds like propaganda.
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The club has produced an official media statement but there's nothing on the official website :whistle.
Meanwhile, over on 3AW they went on about how the AFL had 15 happy clubs and only 1 unhappy one. Coincidentally, they had someone from the AFL come in and sing the praises of the draw.
Why 3AW insist on having an AFL employee go in and ‘answer’ questions (as if) about anything is beyond me. Maybe it’s just me, but most of the time I have to switch off, because my blood starts to boil, as what they say just sounds like propaganda.
Did they have the former Iraqi minister for (mis)information on TS?! He'd fit right in at AFL House ::).
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Wasn't him MT, but he would've been green with envy, as the AFL rep. continued the tradition of uninforming and basically treating people like fools, incapable of thinking for themselves. Then I had to switch off, so if he said anything that made sense I missed it.
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Why 3AW insist on having an AFL employee go in and ‘answer’ questions (as if) about anything is beyond me. Maybe it’s just me, but most of the time I have to switch off, because my blood starts to boil, as what they say just sounds like propaganda.
Did they have the former Iraqi minister for (mis)information on TS?! He'd fit right in at AFL House ::).
Worse it was Ben Buckley ::)
Actually I think its 2 unhappy teams - heard Cameron Schwab (who I can't stand btw) from Freo and he was going off about the draw too :rollin
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Level playing field for 2007
By Chip Le Grand
October 26, 2006
Richmond president Gary March described his club's draw as a "marginal improvement" on last year's, but he described back-to-back trips to Adelaide and two trips to Perth as "far from ideal".
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20645131-23211,00.html
Richmond has one of the toughest draws, with two trips to Perth and back-to-back matches in Adelaide coming off a six-day break among its five interstate road trips.
The Tigers were also denied their request of nine home games at the MCG.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/25/1161749190330.html
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"Dreamtime at the 'G" is in Round 9 which is our home game.
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Wasn't him MT, but he would've been green with envy, as the AFL rep. continued the tradition of uninforming and basically treating people like fools, incapable of thinking for themselves. Then I had to switch off, so if he said anything that made sense I missed it.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/comical_ali.jpg)
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Richmond president Gary March described his club's draw as a "marginal improvement" on last year's, but he described back-to-back trips to Adelaide and two trips to Perth as "far from ideal".
That's a fairly tame response compared to the noises certain "other" clubs would make if given a similar tough draw especially dollar wise.
March also did say it is a tough draw both football and financial wise but we're going to shoulder on regardless as we did this year. We're probably not rocking the boat in the hope we get a better draw in 2008-9 when we want to push for a top 4 spot.
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I have to say I'm disappointed and a bit surprised that there isn't a comment on the RFC web-site about how the Club feels about the draw
i think the club ghas known abouyt this draw 4 a while thats why miller said on sen a few days ago that tiger fans should not get their hopes up cos we wont make the 8 next yr! or something along those lines.
anyway, we cant beat the afl, so i say lets make the 8, kick total arse and prove to the afl world that we are no collingwood and we dont need a favourable draw to earn success.
if we can make th e8 with this draw, we would be a definate contender and not pretender and no could say we made it cos of an easy draw
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Here's a bit of a dumb question, but my Essendon mate brought it up with me last night. For the 2 AAMI games, do the players just spend the whole week in Adelaide? A week in Adelaide - thrill city!
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Here's a bit of a dumb question, but my Essendon mate brought it up with me last night. For the 2 AAMI games, do the players just spend the whole week in Adelaide? A week in Adelaide - thrill city!
nope they come home. travelling to adel is no biggy, its only an hr flight, same as driving from melb to geelong
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Ben Buckley from http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/25/1161749190336.html
■Ladder positions after round 22 from this year were used to determine which teams clubs would meet twice. Previously, logistics demanded that ladder positions after round 15 were used.
This is a contradiction. On one hand they are saying that it the 22-round draw is uneven and they are trying to even it out by using ladder positions from the previous year. But then they change from using the ladder after 15 rounds (fair and even, logistical problem my ars) to the ladder after 22 rounds (unfair and uneven and they must realise this because they are trying to even it out!).
They should really have used the results over the last 15 rounds (7->22) of the season, but they can't do that anymore because:
■Rounds 15-22 next year will not mirror rounds 1-7 as was traditionally the case. Sides can play one another twice regardless of when they played in the first 15 rounds, with seven weeks being the shortest gap between a return match.
What is the motivation of this?
■The split round (round 12) will feature five matches the first week and three the following week, allowing for a Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday game split in week two.
Collingwood still get the preferential treatment with the Sydney game.
■The heritage round will be '70s themed in round 14.
Move on FFS and let go of the past, it is getting embarrasing.
■Collingwood and Essendon will meet on Anzac Day after a four-day break.
LMAO at these two always invoking the ANZAC spirit but will no doubt have a whinge at the 4-day break. Another embarrasment the way these two clubs compare go on about 'sacrifice for your mates' etc.
I see there is still no Good Friday ame and for those of us that couldn't care less about the religious significance of Easter, this is dissapointing. Would love to setlle down in front of Good Friday footy with a big steak.....
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2007 Fixture - club reaction
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au
Here is the reaction from AFL clubs concerning their draw for the 2007 home and away season.
RICHMOND
PRESIDENT, GARY MARCH - "We are pleased with the fact that we play our first six home games in Melbourne with five of them at the MCG, as well as having our total number of MCG games increased from nine to twelve."
"We had, however, requested a minimum of nine home games at the MCG and while we have one more than we were granted in 2006, we were extremely keen to play at least nine home games there.
"And from a football viewpoint we travel interstate five times, after six interstate games this year, with back-to-back road trips to Adelaide early in the season, off just a six-day break as well as having to travel to Perth twice, as we did in 2006."
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=304507
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i think the club ghas known abouyt this draw 4 a while thats why miller said on sen a few days ago that tiger fans should not get their hopes up cos we wont make the 8 next yr! or something along those lines.
anyway, we cant beat the afl, so i say lets make the 8, kick total behind and prove to the afl world that we are no collingwood and we dont need a favourable draw to earn success.
if we can make th e8 with this draw, we would be a definate contender and not pretender and no could say we made it cos of an easy draw
It should backfire on the Pies in the long run anyway. They'll get smashed in the finals again like this year and over time receive crappy draft picks because they finish higher on the ladder than they should for a mediocre side.
Let's stick it up 'em twice this year :thumbsup :gotigers
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Ben Buckley from http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/25/1161749190336.html
■Ladder positions after round 22 from this year were used to determine which teams clubs would meet twice. Previously, logistics demanded that ladder positions after round 15 were used.
This is a contradiction. On one hand they are saying that it the 22-round draw is uneven and they are trying to even it out by using ladder positions from the previous year. But then they change from using the ladder after 15 rounds (fair and even, logistical problem my ars) to the ladder after 22 rounds (unfair and uneven and they must realise this because they are trying to even it out!).
They should really have used the results over the last 15 rounds (7->22) of the season, but they can't do that anymore because:
Agree Jake but in our case we are usually in the top 8 after 15 rounds before falling away by round 22. The AFL are doing us a favour :-\.
■Rounds 15-22 next year will not mirror rounds 1-7 as was traditionally the case. Sides can play one another twice regardless of when they played in the first 15 rounds, with seven weeks being the shortest gap between a return match.
What is the motivation of this?
To reduce the number of six day breaks. Of course we still get 7 of them including one b/w the Adelaide double ::).
■The split round (round 12) will feature five matches the first week and three the following week, allowing for a Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday game split in week two.
Collingwood still get the preferential treatment with the Sydney game.
Yeah but our game against the Dees on Friday night is the only game in Victoria that weekend and it's our home game. If we're doing alright by then we could crack 60,000 - 70,000 and keep all the $$$.
■The heritage round will be '70s themed in round 14.
Move on FFS and let go of the past, it is getting embarrasing.
And we haven't won any of them.
I see there is still no Good Friday ame and for those of us that couldn't care less about the religious significance of Easter, this is dissapointing. Would love to setlle down in front of Good Friday footy with a big steak.....
Don't they not play games now on Good Friday because of the Childrens' Hospital appeal? With Ch 7 showing the Friday night games as well as the Appeal, I can't see that changing while they hold the TV rights.
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Analysis of RFC 2007 fixture
1:47:41 PM Thu 26 October, 2006
richmondfc.com.au
We’ve dissected Richmond’s 2007 fixture to provide you with all the appropriate means of evaluating its degree of difficulty.
Step by step, this is what’s in store for the Tigers during the ’07 season . . .
MCG
• 12 games all-up at the ‘G’ (9 in 2006)
• 8 home games (7 in ’06)
• 4 away games (2 in ’06)
• 5 day games (5 in ’06)
• 2 twilight games: 5.15pm start (0 in ’06)
• 5 night games (4 in ’06)
• 3 Saturday afternoon games (4 in ’06)
• 4 Friday night games (2 in ’06)
• 2 Sunday twilight games (0 in ’06)
• 2 Sunday afternoon games (3 in ’06)
• 1 Saturday night game (2 in ’06)
Telstra Dome
• 4 games all-up at Telstra Dome (6 in ’06)
• 3 home games (4 in ’06)
• 1 away game (2 in ’06)
• 2 night games (3 in ’06)
• 2 twilight games (0 in ’06)
• 0 day games (3 in ’06)
• 2 Saturday night games (1 in ’06)
• 2 Sunday twilight game (0 in ’06)
• 0 Friday night games (2 in ’06)
• 0 Saturday afternoon games (2 in ’06)
• 0 Sunday afternoon games (1 in ’06)
Interstate
• 5 games all-up interstate (6 in ’06)
• 1 AAMI Stadium Friday night game (v Adelaide)
• 1 AAMI Stadium Saturday afternoon game (v Port Adelaide)
• 1 Subiaco Saturday night game (v West Coast)
• 1 Subiaco Sunday game (v Fremantle)
• 1 SCG Saturday night game (v Sydney)
Geelong
• 1 Saturday afternoon game v Geelong at Skilled Stadium
Day by day
• 5 Friday night games all-up (4 in ’06)
• 5 Saturday afternoon games (7 in ’06)
• 5 Saturday night games (8 in ’06)
• 3 Sunday afternoon games (3 in ’06)
• 4 Sunday twilight games (0 in ’06)
• 5 games all-up on Friday (4 in ’06)
• 10 games all-up on Saturday (15 in ’06)
• 7 games all-up on Sunday (3 in ’06)
Them’s the breaks . . .
• eight 8-day breaks (5 in ’06)
• five 7-day breaks (12 in ’06)
• seven 6-day breaks (4 in ’06)
• one 5-day break
• one 12-day break: mid-year (a 14-day break in ’06)
Other fixture facts
Play twice: Sydney, Collingwood, West Coast, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Essendon, St Kilda
Play once: Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Adelaide, Brisbane, Fremantle, Melbourne, Kangaroos, Hawthorn.
Play four of the 2006 finalists twice in ’07: Sydney, Collingwood, West Coast, St Kilda
Interstate trips to: Adelaide, Perth, Sydney.
First five games at the MCG.
First six games in Victoria.
Three of the last four games at the MCG.
Four of the last five in Victoria.
No more than two games in-a-row at Telstra Dome.
Five games in-a-row (Round 12-16) at either the MCG or Telstra Dome.
Play Carlton in the opening round, but have no return match against the Blues.
Play the Western Bulldogs in Round 4, but have no return match against them.
Play St Kilda in Round 13 and have a return match against the Saints in Round 22.
Play Port Adelaide in Round 7 and have a return match against the Power in Round 16.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=304631
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Rivalry Round is in round 3 against the Pies :thumbsup.
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Ben Buckley from http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/25/1161749190336.html
■Ladder positions after round 22 from this year were used to determine which teams clubs would meet twice. Previously, logistics demanded that ladder positions after round 15 were used.
This is a contradiction.
Let’s face it, the AFL is just one big contradiction after another. These people don’t know how to leave things well alone, so they just leave themselves open to greater criticism.
They try to create this level playing field, which, under the circumstances, would seem impossible to do. I think the majority of people could accept if the fixture was a random ‘draw’, instead of the seemingly contrived system currently in place. The more they try to manipulate things, the greater the flaws and the more uneven things become. Somehow, I don't think they care.
If things are going to be this way then why do they insist on doing one thing and saying another?
For example, they say that the draw is intended to maximise attendances.
Sounds like a plan. I wish one of them would answer me this though. If the AFL really does want to maximise attendances then why does Richmond play Geelong in a sardine can, thereby prohibiting upwards of 15,000 supporters from seeing the game? I’ve been to Richmond/Geelong games where the crowds have been in excess of 70,000, but they insist on shoe horning 23,000 people into a shoe box and then try to tell me that the AFL want to maximise crowds.
Clearly, the motivation for this has nothing to do with maximising crowds, but everything to do with filling the Geelong coffers. It’s their home game and they can do what they like, but don’t then try and tell people that the AFL draw is about maximising crowds when clearly the motivation behind the fixture, and indeed any decision the AFL makes, is MONEY.
Then they try and tell you that tv doesn’t control the AFL draw. Not much it doesn’t.
No, of course not, that’s why they’ve suddenly introduced ‘twit like’ games, scheduled at stupid o'clock, which are oh so conveniently scheduled for those who want to go to games. Maximising crowds my foot.
The best thing the AFL can do is just say nothing. Better for people to just think you’re stupid, rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt. I should know.
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Well said TS. It all comes down to money. Until the AFL sees us as a cash cow we'll get treated as second-rate as far as the draw goes.
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For example, they say that the draw is intended to maximise attendances.
Sounds like a plan. I wish one of them would answer me this though. If the AFL really does want to maximise attendances then why does Richmond play Geelong in a sardine can, thereby prohibiting upwards of 15,000 supporters from seeing the game? I’ve been to Richmond/Geelong games where the crowds have been in excess of 70,000, but they insist on shoe horning 23,000 people into a shoe box and then try to tell me that the AFL want to maximise crowds.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :cheers
And just to further your argument TS (not that it needs it :thumbsup) but I managed to get into the sardine can in 2006. Had to queue to pick up my tickets. The word went out about an hour before the game that it was a sell out - no tickets left. However the sardine can is supposed to fit 27-28K people the crowd was around 23,500k - how can that be a sell out. :banghead
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For example, they say that the draw is intended to maximise attendances.
Sounds like a plan. I wish one of them would answer me this though. If the AFL really does want to maximise attendances then why does Richmond play Geelong in a sardine can, thereby prohibiting upwards of 15,000 supporters from seeing the game? I’ve been to Richmond/Geelong games where the crowds have been in excess of 70,000, but they insist on shoe horning 23,000 people into a shoe box and then try to tell me that the AFL want to maximise crowds.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :cheers
And just to further your argument TS (not that it needs it :thumbsup) but I managed to get into the sardine can in 2006. Had to queue to pick up my tickets. The word went out about an hour before the game that it was a sell out - no tickets left. However the sardine can is supposed to fit 27-28K people the crowd was around 23,500k - how can that be a sell out. :banghead
27-28 k was the old capacity when standing area covered much of one side. since the redevelopment, and improvements to seating ariound the whole ground over the past 20yrs, capacity has now dropped to 23k! which really suggests that all the money spent to improve the ground was a waste of tike and money cos 23 k capacity is a joke
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27-28 k was the old capacity when standing area covered much of one side. since the redevelopment, and improvements to seating ariound the whole ground over the past 20yrs, capacity has now dropped to 23k! which really suggests that all the money spent to improve the ground was a waste of tike and money cos 23 k capacity is a joke
That's interesting X because Silly Billy Brownless is always going on about Skilled Stadium still holding 27-28k people.
So if it doesn't (and I've harped on this before) how can they justify selling memberships and have over 30k members when they cannot fit them all in at home games ??? ::) - it's a disgrace
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Gary March isn't happy and rightly so.
Tigers unhappy with ’07 draw
4:34:42 PM Mon 30 October, 2006
richmondfc.com.au
Gary March: "We had requested a minimum of nine home games at the MCG and while we have one more than we were granted in 2006, we are disappointed not to be playing at least nine home games there.
"From a commercial perspective, it's disappointing that two of our first three home games for the season are against interstate clubs and not bigger-drawing Victorian teams.
"And, from a football viewpoint, we travel interstate five times, after six interstate games this year, with back-to-back road trips to Adelaide early in the season, off just a six-day break. We are extremely disappointed this has happened in consecutive years.
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=305061
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27-28 k was the old capacity when standing area covered much of one side. since the redevelopment, and improvements to seating ariound the whole ground over the past 20yrs, capacity has now dropped to 23k! which really suggests that all the money spent to improve the ground was a waste of tike and money cos 23 k capacity is a joke
That's interesting X because Silly Billy Brownless is always going on about Skilled Stadium still holding 27-28k people.
So if it doesn't (and I've harped on this before) how can they justify selling memberships and have over 30k members when they cannot fit them all in at home games ??? ::) - it's a disgrace
it is a disgrace WP
i have friends here in geelong that have non reserved seating membership and they pften get pi ssed off because the membership is subject to capacity
they dont even bother going to shell stadium, because unless u have a socila club or reserved membership, the chances of getting in are slim.
billy is a tool, and his blowing up the capacity and the cats as he always does!!
i would hate to be a cats supporter!
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27-28 k was the old capacity when standing area covered much of one side. since the redevelopment, and improvements to seating ariound the whole ground over the past 20yrs, capacity has now dropped to 23k! which really suggests that all the money spent to improve the ground was a waste of tike and money cos 23 k capacity is a joke
And yet a club like ours that averages the second or third highest attendances in the League is forced to play down there again even though no one can get in ::).
Spot on X. 23k is a joke.
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Tigers unhappy with ’07 draw
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=305061
It won't do much good posting this on the Club's website almost a week after the draw came out. The RFC has to make some media noise that we won't put up with being treated as a rubbish dump when the draw is being worked out for 2008. For starters demanding all our 11 home games in 2008 are scheduled at the 'G. The AFL just ignored us when we tried to compromise asking for nine. It's also up to us as supporters to rock up in droves next year to force the issue.
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Ben Buckley who organised the fixtures for the AFL has jumped ship to soccer and become CEO of the FFA.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20722021-11088,00.html
We might finally get a decent draw from now on ::).
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VFL fixture has been released.
Coburg get 4 out of 17 ABC games - 1 from tassie and another from ballarat which is good.
Play a wednesday ANZAC day game against the dawks at box hill. will get a good crowd hope I am off that day it is out my way and I love giviing it to those box hill losers (they are , really)
A curtain raiser before our game against the pussies at Unskilled Stadium (makes for a long day that one) :thumbsup
http://coburgtigers.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=113401
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VFL fixture has been released.
Coburg get 4 out of 17 ABC games - 1 from tassie and another from ballarat which is good.
Play a wednesday ANZAC day game against the dawks at box hill. will get a good crowd hope I am off that day it is out my way and I love giviing it to those box hill losers (they are , really)
A curtain raiser before our game against the pussies at Unskilled Stadium (makes for a long day that one) :thumbsup
http://coburgtigers.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=113401
It's not a bad draw (clash wise) for Coburg. Most of their games are on an alternate day to when Richmond plays :clapping
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The only clashes are with RFC away games against Freo and the Hawks. 4 TV games is pretty good given we use to ony get two.
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8 GAMES ON 7, 10: HOW IT WILL WORK - ROUND 1
Friday, March 30
7 Melbourne v St Kilda, 7.40pm
Saturday, March 31
7 Kangaroos v Coll'wood, 2.10pm
10 Fremantle v Port, 4.10pm
7 Bris Lions v Hawthorn, 7.10pm
10 Sydney v West Coast, 7.10pm
Sunday, April 1
10 Adelaide v Essendon, 1.10pm
7 W Bulldogs v Geelong, 2.10pm
10 Carlton v Richmond, 4.40pm
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/12/21/1166290679693.html
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VFL fixture has been released.
Coburg get 4 out of 17 ABC games - 1 from tassie and another from ballarat which is good.
Play a wednesday ANZAC day game against the dawks at box hill. will get a good crowd hope I am off that day it is out my way and I love giviing it to those box hill losers (they are , really)
A curtain raiser before our game against the pussies at Unskilled Stadium (makes for a long day that one) :thumbsup
http://coburgtigers.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=113401 (http://coburgtigers.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=113401)
It's not a bad draw (clash wise) for Coburg. Most of their games are on an alternate day to when Richmond plays :clapping
TRUenergy VFL Fixture Amendment
Please be advised of the following amendment to the VFL fixture, Coburg Tigers vs. Sandringham Round 9.
Coburg Tigers vs. Sandringham has been rescheduled from Sunday 10th June to Monday 11th June, 2007. The match will remain at 2.00pm at Coburg City Oval.
The linking Reserve Grade curtain raiser match has also been transferred accordingly.
http://vfl.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=118469