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Title: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
What, if any, changes would you make for the Saints game next week?
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: {X} on April 27, 2008, 08:43:42 PM
out hyde  and white
in connors/collins and cotchin/jackson

Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: mightytiges on April 27, 2008, 09:38:39 PM
Out: Polak, White (if inj)
In:  Cleve, Collins/Bowden (only b/c I think Joel will come in)
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 27, 2008, 09:40:52 PM
Out McMahon, Newman, Polak,

In Bowden, Hughes, Cotchin
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: {X} on April 27, 2008, 09:43:55 PM
polak competed well and was good imo

newman is a serial offender.........should be trade bait
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2008, 09:45:44 PM
I just hope that Terry and the match commitee dont take a backward step and revert back to players of the ilk and character of Bowden, Pettifer and Tivendal now that we have  terms of player development application committment in the last three weeks and going back to those type of blokes will only hinder this improvement.
We need to have faith in the kids now that Terry is giving them the opportunity.


Out Hyde
In Cotchin or Connors
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: TFL on April 27, 2008, 09:47:12 PM
Those who think Collins is close to a game, think again.

He is a long way off AFL. He needs to be in the best for Coburg seniors atleast, he is currently play Coburg reserves.

Same goes for Connors.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: tigersalive on April 27, 2008, 09:55:53 PM
I just hope that Terry and the match commitee dont take a backward step and revert back to players of the ilk and character of Bowden, Pettifer and Tivendal now that we have  terms of player development application committment in the last three weeks and going back to those type of blokes will only hinder this improvement.
We need to have faith in the kids now that Terry is giving them the opportunity.


Out Hyde
In Cotchin or Connors

Kidding me right?  I am an absolute Hyde hater but he did a blanket job on Bateman that was first rate.

He isnt going anywhere.

And suggest Cotchin or Connors to come in when Cotchin cant even run out a VFL game yet and Connors can only flash in and out of games still.

Baffled.  :-\

Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 27, 2008, 09:59:54 PM
I just hope that Terry and the match commitee dont take a backward step and revert back to players of the ilk and character of Bowden, Pettifer and Tivendal now that we have  terms of player development application committment in the last three weeks and going back to those type of blokes will only hinder this improvement.
We need to have faith in the kids now that Terry is giving them the opportunity.


Out Hyde
In Cotchin or Connors

Kidding me right?  I am an absolute Hyde hater but he did a blanket job on Bateman that was first rate.

He isnt going anywhere.

And suggest Cotchin or Connors to come in when Cotchin cant even run out a VFL game yet and Connors can only flash in and out of games still.

Baffled.  :-\



your right l only said Cotchin cause l couldnot think of anyone else  ;D
Conners wont get a look in

Hughes & Bowden for sure
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
I just hope that Terry and the match commitee dont take a backward step and revert back to players of the ilk and character of Bowden, Pettifer and Tivendal now that we have  terms of player development application committment in the last three weeks and going back to those type of blokes will only hinder this improvement.
We need to have faith in the kids now that Terry is giving them the opportunity.


Out Hyde
In Cotchin or Connors

Kidding me right?  I am an absolute Hyde hater but he did a blanket job on Bateman that was first rate.

He isnt going anywhere.

And suggest Cotchin or Connors to come in when Cotchin cant even run out a VFL game yet and Connors can only flash in and out of games still.

Baffled.  :-\



Ok I just think Hyde is too one sided towards his left and it catches him out on occassions.
Knew that about Connors and Cotchin but just getting ahead of myself and trying to formulate a dream Richmond starting 22 in my mind. If anything McMahon needs to be dropped. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Smokey on April 28, 2008, 09:37:54 AM
Those who think Collins is close to a game, think again.

He is a long way off AFL. He needs to be in the best for Coburg seniors atleast, he is currently play Coburg reserves.
Not a fair comment on Collins at all.  He has been playing Coburg seniors, and well enough to be named emergency for Richmond.  He would have played if the weather had been wet (as predicted) and by the time this decision was made it was too late to play Coburg seniors.  He still needed to play somewhere and Coburg ressies was the only option left.  He is much closer to an RFC senior game than you are giving him credit for and he will give it a fair crack when he does.  He shows all the attributes of being a more than handy player and I'm comfortable in sticking my neck out by predicting he will be more reliable and play more games in his career than Connors, Polo, Meyer, JON and other much higher draft picks.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 28, 2008, 07:42:22 PM
Those who think Collins is close to a game, think again.

I think you will find he is very close indeed  ;) Chutney reckons was on standby for yesterday's game, hence why he played for Coburg ressies this week

So keeping this in mind I reckon...

If Matty White's knee doesn't come up

In: Collins & Bowden

Out: White & Edwards (Shane didn't have a good one this week)
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 28, 2008, 08:12:43 PM
out - mcmahom
in  - bowden

im sorry 27 possy's and 6 clangers just doesn't cut it 4 me.

adding to that he failed to lay a tackle from where i was sitting so should be sent back to coburg
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: rogerd3 on April 28, 2008, 08:18:09 PM
Those who think Collins is close to a game, think again.

I think you will find he is very close indeed  ;) Chutney reckons was on standby for yesterday's game, hence why he played for Coburg ressies this week

So keeping this in mind I reckon...

If Matty White's knee doesn't come up

In: Collins & Bowden

Out: White & Edwards (Shane didn't have a good one this week)

reckon you are spot on there WP, lets hope he doesnt end up like the Collins class subs.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: mightytiges on April 28, 2008, 09:41:16 PM
One of the Saints' weaknesses is their their lack of pace. Hopefully Whitey's jarred knee comes up but if not I was looking for someone who could provide some zip rather than bringing back the same old faces. I didn't think Collins was too far away either.  It won't surprise me if Joel comes back in though.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: bluey_21 on April 28, 2008, 09:51:44 PM
Keep Edwards in, may of had a shocker but needs to learn on the big stage like Patto, no point chucking him back to the Burgers. Personally hope Cotchin comes in as a pinch-hitter and is played like he is at the Burgers. Won't happen though I know
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: TFL on April 28, 2008, 10:00:41 PM
If King failed his fitness test and couldnt have played, Connors would have played instead of Collins.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: bluey_21 on April 28, 2008, 10:02:47 PM
I think perhaps Kingy needs a bit of a break. Looks to be getting ahead of himself. Must admire him for taking on the game, but he needs to know his limitations and not try and be a hero everytime he gets the pill
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 28, 2008, 10:08:15 PM
If King failed his fitness test and couldnt have played, Connors would have played instead of Collins.

No Collins would have played  ;D Chutney assures me and Chutney aint been on the sauce  :rollin
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: tigersalive on April 28, 2008, 10:34:39 PM
If King failed his fitness test and couldnt have played, Connors would have played instead of Collins.

Why do I keep hearing that rubbish?

How can you play Connors when he wasnt even in the emergencies and was sent back to Coburg ressies for being lazy.  ::)

I like the majority of your posts and appreciate the them, but what the hell has you writing off Andrew Collins so much?  :-\ 
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 28, 2008, 11:34:55 PM
If King failed his fitness test and couldnt have played, Connors would have played instead of Collins.

Why do I keep hearing that rubbish?

How can you play Connors when he wasnt even in the emergencies and was sent back to Coburg ressies for being lazy.  ::)

I like the majority of your posts and appreciate the them, but what the hell has you writing off Andrew Collins so much?  :-\ 

Cause people want Connors, one of our most talented young players currently outside the team to play.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: tigersalive on April 28, 2008, 11:43:54 PM
If King failed his fitness test and couldnt have played, Connors would have played instead of Collins.

Why do I keep hearing that rubbish?

How can you play Connors when he wasnt even in the emergencies and was sent back to Coburg ressies for being lazy.  ::)

I like the majority of your posts and appreciate the them, but what the hell has you writing off Andrew Collins so much?  :-\ 

Cause people want Connors, one of our most talented young players currently outside the team to play.

And so do I, when he is match-fit and his mind on the job.

But once again I'll ask something I dont understand. 

How can Connors, not named in the emergencies, have been a late inclusion on Sunday?
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 29, 2008, 09:45:10 AM
One of the Saints' weaknesses is their their lack of pace. Hopefully Whitey's jarred knee comes up but if not I was looking for someone who could provide some zip rather than bringing back the same old faces. I didn't think Collins was too far away either.  It won't surprise me if Joel comes back in though.

i think he will come in and the saints will bring the g-train in.

just a thought but he and that milne little rat always clean us up.

its about time we squared the ledger. they will come out firing the saints and if we are not with it from the first minute of this game, we will lose.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 29, 2008, 11:13:14 AM
Conners was last year & proven nothing this year to even get close to a game
too much trackside apearances over the off season  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: mightytiges on April 29, 2008, 03:41:34 PM
Connors has had no preseason. A stress fracture in his foot IIRC wrote it off completely.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: one-eyed on April 29, 2008, 06:36:31 PM
A snippett from Sportal

Wallace was reluctant to expand on the selection prospects of Joel Bowden, Kayne Pettifer and Greg Tivendale, all of whom have been looking for form, and tackles, in the VFL over recent weeks.

"They're all selection dilemmas that you go through … and see what’s right for the balance of the team," he said.

http://sportal.com.au/AFL-news-display/plough-saints-dont-own-us-47499
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Mr Magic on April 29, 2008, 08:52:44 PM
Out: Polak, Edwards
In: Bowden, Hughes
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 29, 2008, 09:00:48 PM
Out: Polak, Edwards
In: Bowden, Hughes

I don't think Edwards should be dropped.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: Mr Magic on April 30, 2008, 04:37:33 AM
Out: Polak, Edwards
In: Bowden, Hughes

I don't think Edwards should be dropped.

That's ok.
I think he's too good for that level too but I don't think it would harm him to get some run in his legs on the ball at Coburg rather than being used sporadically off the bench in the senior side.
If it was another young guy to replace him I'd have no problem sending him back.
He's still very early into his career and the disrupted pre season wouldn't have helped. I have seen enough to know Shane will make it but he needs to be developed well also.
Title: Re: Changes for next week vs Saints?
Post by: mightytiges on April 30, 2008, 04:49:56 PM
I would keep Shane in for another week given the game is at the Dome and his natural talents will come in handy against the Saints. I reckon we will try to run them off their feet like the doggies did to them a few weeks back.