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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 09, 2014, 11:10:43 AM

Title: A Captain
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 09, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
Have watched the Tiges since 1966 and one thing after last night that is clear is that Trent is not a captain
Who then ?
Bring this up for discussion
I don't like the bloke but think that Jack Riewoldt would be a good captain
Not scared to give team mates a spray
Demands and tries to lift the team
And understands the game
Anyone's thoughts ?
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Gigantor on June 09, 2014, 11:12:22 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 09, 2014, 11:12:53 AM
We don't have a single player at the club that could be considered captain material
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2014, 11:19:08 AM
Jako. He can do all the speaking engagements etc. Toss the coin. Snipe behind the play from The Cricketer's Arms and all that other stuff we don't do anyway.
Much like Mitchell at HFC in 2008.
Cotch can then concentrate on footy and being a spiritual leader.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Rampstar on June 09, 2014, 11:19:52 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas

I dont agree on this. I think we have reached the stage where we have to recruit our captain from outside. Like Carlton did with Judd. We need to get a big name player and make him captain either Fyfe or Dangerfield. If that doesnt happen then Id give it Ivan Maric even though the big man is imjured at least he has presence about him and looks like a leader.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 09, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas

I dont agree on this. I think we have reached the stage where we have to recruit our captain from outside. Like Carlton did with Judd. We need to get a big name player and make him captain either Fyfe or Dangerfield. If that doesnt happen then Id give it Ivan Maric even though the big man is imjured at least he has presence about him and looks like a leader.

Maric is still injured ?
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Simonator on June 09, 2014, 11:22:17 AM
I used to stick up for Cotchin, but I dont think he is the right captain for us. He would be better captain at a club like geelong where is surrounded by good players, staff and club in general.

We need a ferocious, demanding captain. Maric might suit this, or even Jack possibly. But jack spits the dummy too much and has a sook like that game where he sat by himself and didnt get around the players at half time.
Even Morris might be better.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: TigerLand on June 09, 2014, 11:22:54 AM
Alex Rance or Dan Jackson for mine.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Rampstar on June 09, 2014, 11:23:37 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas

I dont agree on this. I think we have reached the stage where we have to recruit our captain from outside. Like Carlton did with Judd. We need to get a big name player and make him captain either Fyfe or Dangerfield. If that doesnt happen then Id give it Ivan Maric even though the big man is imjured at least he has presence about him and looks like a leader.

Maric is still injured ?

From what I know he needs to be managed through to the end of his career. Thats what I heard.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Rampstar on June 09, 2014, 11:24:34 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas

I dont agree on this. I think we have reached the stage where we have to recruit our captain from outside. Like Carlton did with Judd. We need to get a big name player and make him captain either Fyfe or Dangerfield. If that doesnt happen then Id give it Ivan Maric even though the big man is imjured at least he has presence about him and looks like a leader.

And Id make Nick Vlastuin and Alex Rance the Vice Captains with Vlastuin the Leader in Waiting. Thats it.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2014, 11:25:55 AM
How about no captain.
We aint got leaders so why bother tokenly giving someone a title.
When they toss the coin the other captain can call.
We aint lifting a premiership cup soon either. Obsolete position if you ask me.
Look at the second half last night. Any leadership there.
There was more leadership and contempt for what was happening on the bottom level of aisle 46.

Obsolete position at RFC.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Mr Magic on June 09, 2014, 11:28:56 AM
Jack Riewoldt
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 09, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
It's very clear to all and even opposition supporters is that Trent is a great player but no Captain
Bad decision by the club in hindsight
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 09, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas

I dont agree on this. I think we have reached the stage where we have to recruit our captain from outside. Like Carlton did with Judd. We need to get a big name player and make him captain either Fyfe or Dangerfield. If that doesnt happen then Id give it Ivan Maric even though the big man is imjured at least he has presence about him and looks like a leader.

Maric is still injured ?

From what I know he needs to be managed through to the end of his career. Thats what I heard.
but he had surgery and they fixed it
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: dwaino on June 09, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
Any combination of Jack, Maric and Jackson.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: torch on June 09, 2014, 11:41:28 AM
Brett Deledio is NO captain at all!

Jack Riewoldt should be vice-captain!
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2014, 12:26:20 PM
Have watched the Tiges since 1966 and one thing after last night that is clear is that Trent is not a captain
Who then ?
Bring this up for discussion
I don't like the bloke but think that Jack Riewoldt would be a good captain
Not scared to give team mates a spray
Demands and tries to lift the team
And understands the game
Anyone's thoughts ?

Maric for mine

He's just a natural leader of men. 

He has a presence on the field

Appears to be the sort of leader that doesn't need to give sprays because the players would be in no doubt what he expects of them

Also reckon he wouldn't be afraid to front the coach with his concerns and ideas

We don't have that now

I sometimes think one of the problems with Coatch is he is too close to Dimma

Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: lamington on June 09, 2014, 12:30:55 PM
I thought we could do a a Collingwood a few years back where we have the captaincy split 3 ways (atk/mid/def)

Which for me would be Riewoldt-Martin-Rance
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 09, 2014, 12:35:13 PM
Cotchin is a poo player now too.
Can't kick
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: eliminator on June 09, 2014, 12:38:54 PM
Have watched the Tiges since 1966 and one thing after last night that is clear is that Trent is not a captain
Who then ?
Bring this up for discussion
I don't like the bloke but think that Jack Riewoldt would be a good captain
Not scared to give team mates a spray
Demands and tries to lift the team
And understands the game
Anyone's thoughts ?

Maric for mine

He's just a natural leader of men. 

He has a presence on the field

Appears to be the sort of leader that doesn't need to give sprays because the players would be in no doubt what he expects of them

Also reckon he wouldn't be afraid the front the coach with his concerns and ideas

We don't have that now

I sometimes think one of the problems with Coatch is he is too close to Dimma
I think Maric would be a good captain
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Diocletian on June 09, 2014, 03:11:52 PM
People seriously want Jackson as captain? A plastic hard man and the dumbest footballer & biggest momentum killer in the side? I barely want him on the list. Make him captain and he'll be a walk up start until he's 32.

Cotchin, Maric & Riewoldt are the only players we have that are even close to captaincy material until Vlastuin's old enough.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 09, 2014, 07:53:11 PM
Give Vlastuin the number 17 jumper and make him captain in 2015.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: bojangles17 on June 09, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
I said rancer should have at least been vc , would make an excellent captain right now
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 09, 2014, 08:32:41 PM
Seems like we all agree the wrong man is in the job
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Chuck17 on June 09, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Yeah and there is no consensus on who it should be
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Rampstar on June 09, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
Ivan Maric should be Captain
Alex Rance and Nick Vlastuin should be Vice Captain
with Vlastuin the next in line after Maric retires.

Cotchin and Deledio should just play footy.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Diocletian on June 09, 2014, 09:22:27 PM
Seems like we all agree the wrong man is in the job

No we don't.
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 10, 2014, 08:18:08 AM
Riewoldt would be a good captainIMO
Lids chimo vlastuin maric  in the LG
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Penelope on June 10, 2014, 09:05:32 AM
The captain is the right choice,unfortunately he is surrounded by primma donnas

I dont agree on this. I think we have reached the stage where we have to recruit our captain from outside. Like Carlton did with Judd. We need to get a big name player and make him captain either Fyfe or Dangerfield. If that doesnt happen then Id give it Ivan Maric even though the big man is imjured at least he has presence about him and looks like a leader.

Funny, I was thinking about this exact subject last night and besides Maric, this was pretty much the conclusion I came to.  Doesnt necessarily have to be a great player though, just someone that leads by example and demands that others follow his lead. Someone that will look an under performing teammate in the eye and tell them to pull their finger out rather than pat them on the back and give them kind words of encouragement.

It is painfully clear that we are bereft of natural leaders
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Chuck17 on April 14, 2018, 07:45:46 PM
Can we have consensus now that it is as Dio said?
Title: Re: A Captain
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 14, 2018, 08:09:47 PM
Can we have consensus now that it is as Dio said?
He didn’t mention Rance