One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Rampsation on October 05, 2018, 08:16:17 AM
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I have some concern that our club has over the past 2 or 3 years moved to much towards being a money focussed organisation.
From taking away members rights at AGMS, to changing seats of members who have paid for decades giving these seats to
coteries who pay more, to being happy to play on 5 day breaks. It seems its all about money.
Now I know that money is important, but the focus should be on 'CLUB' not on money. Anyway, I know gaming has been an issue
for many but if its about money Id rather the club get itself another pub with gaming machines rather than hammering the members
all the time. Id rather the punters pay at the gaming machines, its their choice to play the machines anyway. The members shouldnt
have to always sacrifice for the club to generate more money.
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Money is the lifeblood of any club. All employees have wage rises. Costs of so many other things rise. The club has to keep up. To be competitive you need great coaches, great recruiters, great physios etc, etc.
These come at a price, If you want to pay peanuts and get monkeys.....
That's where we were in the 90's and 2000's. Remember when Fine eyes was our head recruiter but was still a full time teacher?
To remain at the pointy end it costs big $$$$$.
Sorry Ramps but it is what it is.
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I understand that but why should the members always front up the cost of peoples wages increases? As I said get another pub with machines and let the punters pay for it.
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Yes they have.
Best members in the the league but aren’t treated as good as hawks or bomber members. :banghead
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Yes they have.
Best members in the the league but aren’t treated as good as hawks or bomber members. :banghead
how so ?
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I understand that but why should the members always front up the cost of peoples wages increases? As I said get another pub with machines and let the punters pay for it.
You would rather accept grubby money from low socio-economic groups who gamble their life away rather than digging a little deeper?
Id rather go without a meal and dig a little deeper, than to prey on gambling funds.
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I understand that but why should the members always front up the cost of peoples wages increases? As I said get another pub with machines and let the punters pay for it.
You would rather accept grubby money from low socio-economic groups who gamble their life away rather than digging a little deeper?
Id rather go without a meal and dig a little deeper, than to prey on gambling funds.
Well its legal and our competitors like Hawthorn have no problem doing it. I cant be responsible if some bum goes and wastes his
money on the pokies. I dig deep enough with membership, making donations and buying expensive raffle tickets. We shouldnt
have to pay because the moral brigade want to pretend that we are good social citizens. If the government bans gaming then fair
enough, until then its fair game IMHO.
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We should get into the arms trade then, there's bucket loads of money selling guns to militias around the world. And the branding would fit, Tiger AK47's for the jungle fighter in you!
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I add I share your concern but the entire AFL is too money focused. Its raking in the riches from TV and yet still tries to drag millions more from the membership. What for? So we can pay to have Jack Reiwoldts big toe massaged after each game?
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We should get into the arms trade then, there's bucket loads of money selling guns to militias around the world. And the branding would fit, Tiger AK47's for the jungle fighter in you!
Or maybe open up a brothel or two. Lots of money to be made.
:lol
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Richmond is already getting money from gaming machines. That's the realty of the situation. There is nothing wrong with adding
to the portfolio buy buying into a family pub with gaming machines. It has nothing to do with brothels and arms trading.
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Richmond is already getting money from gaming machines. That's the realty of the situation. There is nothing wrong with adding
to the portfolio buy buying into a family pub with gaming machines. It has nothing to do with brothels and arms trading.
They are trying to get out of the gaming business. That's why they have bought into the fitness industry. They realise that the lomg term future of pokies is limited.
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I think its just the reality of it all really with gaming, strong push for all clubs to get out and need to be seen to do the right thing.
A number of clubs have already moved away from it and the pressure will mount for others to follow suit and they will be getting pressure from AFL also.
The reserved seating issue is a separate matter I think, that's about being about to expand the top end memberships which sold out. Its still a money grab of sorts but its also about accommodating what people are asking for and sometimes other people pay the price, rightly or wrongly.
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We could be sponsored by ISIS for all I care as long as it pays the bills.... :shh
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We could be sponsored by ISIS for all I care as long as it pays the bills.... :shh
They're being dismantled at the moment so that's a big NO from me. :shh
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Richmond is already getting money from gaming machines. That's the realty of the situation. There is nothing wrong with adding
to the portfolio buy buying into a family pub with gaming machines. It has nothing to do with brothels and arms trading.
They are trying to get out of the gaming business. That's why they have bought into the fitness industry. They realise that the lomg term future of pokies is limited.
This is only credible if each club and the AFL get out of drawing income from gambling altogether. The sponsorship money from betting agencies is far more pervasive and dangerous than pokies. When kids are using odds to calculate in their mind the likelihood of their team winning, you have a generational problem.
Picking on pokies in isolation is a joke and one of many reasons why I despise the Roos superficial personality
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If people want pokies shut down then maybe tattslotto, the tab, and scratch tickets can also be illegal. Unfortunately
the AFL is a competitive industry and we need more money as a club, a decent pub with machines could bring in the
money. Its the punters who play the machines who need to show discipline in their lives and not play if they cannot
afford to lose.
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If people want pokies shut down then maybe tattslotto, the tab, and scratch tickets can also be illegal. Unfortunately
the AFL is a competitive industry and we need more money as a club, a decent pub with machines could bring in the
money. Its the punters who play the machines who need to show discipline in their lives and not play if they cannot
afford to lose.
Do gooders who want to “fix the world”
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You guys do realise that gambling is a disease? One that preys on the most needy?
Pokies gambling is an addiction and the easiest way to pray on these people.
Tattslotto and other forms of betting are nowhere near as addictive and destructive.
I would have thought that most people would understand this, but alas they don't.
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People should be free to spend their money however they wish. If they want to gamble, let them. If you're a good punter you can live off the punt really.
I agree pokies aren't a smart choice when it comes to gambling but I'm not going to (nor should anyone) tell people how they should spend their own money.
Having said that, I don't really give a poo if we're not using pokies to our advantage like other clubs. If we can get money into the club without doing so then hats off to the RFC
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..and hats off to Roy Harper.... :shh
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Simple answer is no.
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You guys do realise that gambling is a disease? One that preys on the most needy?
Pokies gambling is an addiction and the easiest way to pray on these people.
Tattslotto and other forms of betting are nowhere near as addictive and destructive.
I would have thought that most people would understand this, but alas they don't.
Unlike some other diseases Doc, gambling is still a choice.
It’s an addiction sure but at some stage the individual had a choice... just like taking drugs or even smoking...
It’s time people take responsibility for their actions. It’s all too easy to blame someone/something else.
I don’t give a poo either way about pokies but I’m sick to death of “victims” in our society.
And I’m almost as sick of the do-gooders. (Not saying you are mate as I respect what you do but for some.....)
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..and hats off to Roy Harper.... :shh
Singer songwriter or fictional superhero? :lol
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You guys do realise that gambling is a disease? One that preys on the most needy?
Pokies gambling is an addiction and the easiest way to pray on these people.
Tattslotto and other forms of betting are nowhere near as addictive and destructive.
I would have thought that most people would understand this, but alas they don't.
Alcoholism is also a disease but I don't see people wanting to ban scotch whiskey, beer and wine. Common Doc,
I understand theirs issues here, people in this day and age lack discipline, I like a beer, but from the day
I was diagnosed with CRF I haven't had a beer. I go to parties, and watch my family and friends enjoying themselves
and that's good, I have a 500 ml daily fluid restriction, so no beers for me or wine. Sometimes in life people
need to take care of themselves and be disciplined. I know its hard, but its hard for lots of people in life. That's my
take on it, obviously you disagree.
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You guys do realise that gambling is a disease? One that preys on the most needy?
Pokies gambling is an addiction and the easiest way to pray on these people.
Tattslotto and other forms of betting are nowhere near as addictive and destructive.
I would have thought that most people would understand this, but alas they don't.
And Sportsbet, Luxbet, TAB etc introduce and normalise the concept of gambling in their all consuming way by advertising and promoting it absolutely everywhere. Brings kids into the concept of gambling ...
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Yes
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Anyone heard what sort of a profit the club is expecting to make this year?
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..and hats off to Roy Harper.... :shh
Singer songwriter or fictional superhero? :lol
My uncle - played for Footscray 1952-1955. A serious knee injury prevented him from playing the 1954 grand final :P