What's wrong with Foley?
Despite reports of reasonable form at CHB for Coburg has his future already been decided given he didn't come in for Razor and Sarge although underdone did?
tw also said gimore would have been selected by now if he had more continuity, his ankle injury cost him selection, and he said rookie list player foley may be elevated at the end of teh yr as they are impressed with him so far and wanna test him on the big stage b4 they make a choice to add him to our senior list
The 24-year-old broke through for six AFL games after being elevated from the rookie list last season with the long-term injury to David Rodan and is super keen to capitalise on the gains he has made.
Have seen him dominate the centre square for Coburg getting clearances at will. I am doubtful though that he can transform that into the seniors.
I hope he proves me wrong, but cant see him adding much to our team.
has the potential to be a future Hasebly/Bartel type.
Sam Mitchell comes to mind also. Always a gun but people questioned his size/pace.
IMHO, Foley will not make it in the AFL, he is a very good VFL player, but from what i've seen of him, he just can't cut it at the elite level
foley will become more valuable to our team than many may think, he will imo become just as imp , maybe even more important than cogsi expect him to become an important part of our midfield.
who have not obv watched him close enough nor admired his efforts esp in the game at port and the game v the dogs!
Boy needs some steroids, stat!
IMHO, Foley will not make it in the AFL, he is a very good VFL player, but from what i've seen of him, he just can't cut it at the elite level
who have not obv watched him close enough nor admired his efforts esp in the game at port and the game v the dogs! he will be a prime hard ball winner 4 us 4 years to come and we will discuss this when foley has the final and last laugh
t, but you could say the same for Mark McGough and how much has he done
IMHO, Foley will not make it in the AFL, he is a very good VFL player, but from what i've seen of him, he just can't cut it at the elite level
who have not obv watched him close enough nor admired his efforts esp in the game at port and the game v the dogs! he will be a prime hard ball winner 4 us 4 years to come and we will discuss this when foley has the final and last laugh
Are any of the new boys firing early on the track?
Wallace intends playing 20-year-old Tambling on the ball next year, saying his endurance and natural roving skills demand it.
Are any of the new boys firing early on the track?
They are training separately to the main squad at the moment. On Wednesday they just did 200 and 400m runs around the boundary and some handball and basic reflex drills while the game-based drills were going on.
Wallace intends playing 20-year-old Tambling on the ball next year, saying his endurance and natural roving skills demand it.
We need Blingers to move into the centre as soon as possible for his pace and skill alone. He still needs to build up his strength and upper body more though before he'll really click playing both as a inside and outside midfielder. With Foley, Lids and Polo as well we're slowly building up a quality young midfield.
Was told tonight that Nathan is burning up the track this summer and leading everyone in pre-season stuff they do. Also told that Nathan B is having a great pre-season.
One damn cute one lol ;)Was told tonight that Nathan is burning up the track this summer and leading everyone in pre-season stuff they do. Also told that Nathan B is having a great pre-season.
I wonder who your source was :shh :thumbsup :cuddles :lol
The Tigers were so impressed with Foley’s development that they decided to offer him the famous No. 9 guernsey.
He regarded it as a huge honor to be asked to take the No. 9 and thought long and hard about whether to accept it.
In the end, however, he opted to stick with the No. 41 guernsey he’d worn since making his way on to the rookie list at Tigerland in 2004.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=310340
On the Couch spoke about Foley tonight and said that he is leading the league with 16 centre sq clearances. They pumped him up saying how much he had improved.A great effort by Foles who must close to leading in our B&F at this stage :clapping. He needs help with the workload in there though due to our lack of onballer depth. Good sides have 10-12 decent midfielders that can rotate through the centre.
They also defined their meaning of a clearance as the first possession from the ball up which then HAS to create a passage of play.
Well done Axel :thumbsup
Keep up the good work.
Foley, Deledio, Connors.True. We also need to have around 10-12 quality Tigers rotating through the middle so to give them a rest otherwise they will burn out in the second half the year.
There's our future on-ball brigade.
I noticed on another Richmond forum they had a thread devoted to try and find the positives rather than dwell on all the negatives, which we are all well aware of. Our situation at the moment is depressing enough, do we have to relive it all the time on forums?
You'd be right in your element at Big Footy.I noticed on another Richmond forum they had a thread devoted to try and find the positives rather than dwell on all the negatives, which we are all well aware of. Our situation at the moment is depressing enough, do we have to relive it all the time on forums?
i only read this forum, dont bother with the rest
1/ i dont have time to be part of 1000 forumsYou'd be right in your element at Big Footy.I noticed on another Richmond forum they had a thread devoted to try and find the positives rather than dwell on all the negatives, which we are all well aware of. Our situation at the moment is depressing enough, do we have to relive it all the time on forums?
i only read this forum, dont bother with the rest
I'm also at Big Footy ;)
All I'm saying is that they would appreciate your views there.
would he be in brownlow territory??? :whistle
would he be in brownlow territory??? :whistleUs having won just one game as year would hurt his chances. Would miss out on the 3 votes every time.
would he be in brownlow territory??? :whistle
Just to repeat Axel is a GUN! :bow
That goal was just as brilliant as the one he kicked against the Saints :bow. Loved that burst from the centre and bullet pass to Polak in the first quarter too :bow.
last nights was better cos it was v the skunks lol
btw, we may be bottom team, but foley deserves an AA spot this yr
"He's our best role model at this footy club at the moment. That's bar none," Wallace said on Friday night.
"The captain's fantastic. The captain sets the scene with where things sit and the temperament of the group, that's the captain's responsibility."
"As in setting an example for the others with a work ethic, from the manner in which he commits himself and presents himself on a week in week out basis we haven't got anyone that presents himself better."
http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/AFL-news-display/foley-the-richmond-role-model-33078
He probably won't get it because we've only won 2 games but that makes it even more impressive that Axel is No 1 in clearances in the comp. He has to do it virtually himself without help from other gun midfielders around him.last nights was better cos it was v the skunks lol
btw, we may be bottom team, but foley deserves an AA spot this yr
certainly deserves it but getting it is another thing
He probably won't get it because we've only won 2 games but that makes it even more impressive that Axel is No 1 in clearances in the comp. He has to do it virtually himself without help from other gun midfielders around him.last nights was better cos it was v the skunks lol
btw, we may be bottom team, but foley deserves an AA spot this yr
certainly deserves it but getting it is another thing
They showed last night's goal again on the newses. I didn't notice this watching it live but Axel had Rhyce Shaw chasing him who is quick and Shaw didn't make up any ground on Axel :o.Just to repeat Axel is a GUN! :bow
That goal was just as brilliant as the one he kicked against the Saints :bow. Loved that burst from the centre and bullet pass to Polak in the first quarter too :bow.
saints one was even better but last nights running goal was still superb :bow
He probably won't get it because we've only won 2 games but that makes it even more impressive that Axel is No 1 in clearances in the comp. He has to do it virtually himself without help from other gun midfielders around him.last nights was better cos it was v the skunks lol
btw, we may be bottom team, but foley deserves an AA spot this yr
certainly deserves it but getting it is another thing
What did we think of Walls' comments on Foley tonight that Foley needs to stop trying to be a star all the time going for the bomb goal and find our forwards more often?
what l really thinkI don't think you can really blame him for the wooden spoon though.
Foley owns a wooden spoon thats how good
what a shame to have a spoon
dont pump him up
Its just him asking a question about it MT. And the fact by all accounts he's been participating in all training it's pretty unlikely to be OP. :thumbsupCheers tigersalive :cheers. You always get jittery as with our luck in recent years it always seems to be our best player in form who ends up copping a serious injury :-\.
foley has a slight groin tear was told from a reliable source obviously cant mention names he has been taken off the track 3-4 week injury
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10014952&postcount=1
Trolls.
Its great when they show their fear...
What taggers? ;D
"But it is all about trying to be as damaging as possible. That is the idea for all midfielders, not just gathering a lot of possessions but being able to make those possessions count. It is something you have to do.":clapping
Certainly looked like he belonged in that company and then some.I honestly thought his name should have been thrown around when they were discussing a possible medal winner. It was his work in and under that got Victoria going and if you get a chance to watch the replay, have a look at how hard he worked all game - both in the packs and running to provide a link up. He was the best midfielder on the ground and in that company it was no mean feat.
His clearance work tonight was top shelf.
I'm glad he plays for us.
Certainly looked like he belonged in that company and then some.
His clearance work tonight was top shelf.
I'm glad he plays for us.
yep he sure played a good game Axle, but wait till he gets back to playing with the duds he go back to normal ;D
Agree smokey. Disappointing Fev didn't recognise Foley in his medal speech when he was thanking the mids as Axel passed it to Fev for his first 2 goals. Before Foley came on the dreamteam were all over the Vics in the centre.Certainly looked like he belonged in that company and then some.I honestly thought his name should have been thrown around when they were discussing a possible medal winner. It was his work in and under that got Victoria going and if you get a chance to watch the replay, have a look at how hard he worked all game - both in the packs and running to provide a link up. He was the best midfielder on the ground and in that company it was no mean feat.
His clearance work tonight was top shelf.
I'm glad he plays for us.
"He's our number one targeted player every game that he plays."Hopefully in the next few years with Axel, Blingers, Cotch, Lids, Connors and others in the midfield, the opposition won't be able to tag them all and we can maintain quality in the midfield via our rotations throughout each game.
"He's our number one targeted player every game that he plays."Hopefully in the next few years with Axel, Blingers, Cotch, Lids, Connors and others in the midfield, the opposition won't be able to tag them all and we can maintain quality in the midfield via our rotations throughout each game.
hear hear..let's not forget about cogs and MAYBE daniel rich..
Let's hope this is just another rubbish 3aw rumour. Axel should be rested immediately otherwise unlike what happened when Spud kept playing Cogs.
Let's hope this is just another rubbish 3aw rumour. Axel should be rested immediately otherwise unlike what happened when Spud kept playing Cogs.
MT you have got to stop blaming spud for everything. build a bridge and get over it you lot.
i dont think he did a great job but let the truth be known we made thge finals under him and beat the blues for that matter.
how about asking how cogs did his knee 2 years in a row. shower accident???????
LOL Stripes.Let's hope this is just another rubbish 3aw rumour. Axel should be rested immediately otherwise unlike what happened when Spud kept playing Cogs.
MT you have got to stop blaming spud for everything. build a bridge and get over it you lot.
i dont think he did a great job but let the truth be known we made thge finals under him and beat the blues for that matter.
how about asking how cogs did his knee 2 years in a row. shower accident???????
But its alright to bag TW for everything though....how ironic :)
If Foley has the dreaded OP I think the club would immediately rest/treat him. If TW is in survival mode for next year then the last thing he would need is his best midfielder not playing at 100%!You would hope so.
On average only one third of recruits make the cut. If you look at our list of recruits over the past few years I think we are travelling well.
Yes we haven't made the finals in 4 years but we have only made the finals twice in 25 years!!! If you want a successful team for many years who make the finals consistently rather than once a decade then you need to rebuild a list. What has TW done - he has done the hard yards, recruited a group of good potential players to develop so once they are in the 23-27 year range (so called 'premiership age') we may actually finally achieve some success.
If you can not wait 4 years for finals success then we should get Spud back to keep trading away our draft picks for average players so we may get into the finals and then get booted out just as quickly.
TW has done the hard yards, taken a fair hit to his reputation all so he can develop a team that finally has a chance to consistently make the grade. Spud on the other hand just keep trying to top up and as a result screwed us for years to come.
Spud didn't have a clue while at least TW is putting in the ground work to attempt to give us a real chance in the future.
I know which coach I would prefer! :)
Stripes
I would have so much more respect for TW if he came to Punt road and said right no more oldies your out and im ONLY recruiting youngsters.
pattty bowden, tivers, hyde, graham??, kingsley are old are they not. He misjudged this list, which is why he
picked up kingsley.
We finished 9th that year which is why we he recruited kingsley because he thought thats all we needed to make the finals. How wrong he was??
I would have so much more respect for TW if he came to Punt road and said right no more oldies your out and im ONLY recruiting youngsters.
pattty bowden, tivers, hyde, graham??, kingsley are old are they not. He misjudged this list, which is why he
picked up kingsley.
We finished 9th that year which is why we he recruited kingsley because he thought thats all we needed to make the finals. How wrong he was??
Daniel - I have no problem with your opinion, we don't agree on TW and that's fine but if you are going to make statements can we get the facts straight
Hyde - was already on the list when Wallace got there and was 22, he is now 26. Don't think that is OLD. I think an agrument can be made for saying that up until he cracked his skull he was doing OK but since then he hasn't improved. I am sure a decision on him will be made this year
Tiv - is 29 was on the list when TW arrived and was 25, again not old. Trust me I am older than 29 and 29 aint old ;D 2008 hasn't been great for him but hell is playing for the seniors? No - a younger player is playing in his place. He takes his medicine plays his guts out for Coburg every week. Like Hyde a decision I have no doubt will be made at the end of the season.
Bowden P, - was not old, was only 23 when we traded for him and he cost us nothing. Had a good 1st season, poor 2nd one and guess what - he was de-listed
Graham - again cost us nothing at pick 60+. Played one season and had great impact on the young developing defenders. Was a win for us IMHO
Kingsley - was bought in for insurance and insurance only while the Reiwoldts & Hughes were developing and in case Richo fell over. Again he cost us nothing. I don't think you can mount a case for them thinking we were a step away from finals. Kingsley was always a last in the pecking order selection wise. Should we have used the pick on another kid? Perhaps but we'd probably typing away talking about what a dud selection the kid is anyway ;D
On average only one third of recruits make the cut. If you look at our list of recruits over the past few years I think we are travelling well.
Yes we haven't made the finals in 4 years but we have only made the finals twice in 25 years!!! If you want a successful team for many years who make the finals consistently rather than once a decade then you need to rebuild a list. What has TW done - he has done the hard yards, recruited a group of good potential players to develop so once they are in the 23-27 year range (so called 'premiership age') we may actually finally achieve some success.
If you can not wait 4 years for finals success then we should get Spud back to keep trading away our draft picks for average players so we may get into the finals and then get booted out just as quickly.
TW has done the hard yards, taken a fair hit to his reputation all so he can develop a team that finally has a chance to consistently make the grade. Spud on the other hand just keep trying to top up and as a result screwed us for years to come.
Spud didn't have a clue while at least TW is putting in the ground work to attempt to give us a real chance in the future.
I know which coach I would prefer! :)
Stripes
look mate we can argue this till the cows come home, its obvious we will never agree on TW, but thats fine its a forum
I would have so much more respect for TW if he came to Punt road and said right no more oldies your out and im ONLY recruiting youngsters.
pattty bowden, tivers, hyde, graham??, kingsley are old are they not. He misjudged this list, which is why he
picked up kingsley.
We finished 9th that year which is why we he recruited kingsley because he thought thats all we needed to make the finals. How wrong he was??
as for our recruits. we picked up foley(rookie)great, but tambling, meyer, patto and JON were a mistake.
Tambling is a small player and in a draft where we needed talls why the eff would you not go with a tall.
JON is a joke. This guy is a complete waste of our time and money.
Even T.Williams will be a better player than any of those mentioned above, apart from lids.
it was such a good draft and it was our chance to get back in the game and we screwed it up.
Like i said we wont agree but thats life.
Any further news as to why Foley didn't play today?
They should declare his season over if it is OP :(.
Id like to think the silence on Foleys injury means that there is not much to report! :pray Did he fly back with the rest of the group? That could be an indicator of the severity or lack of?
Foley out = Win to the Blues
Foley out = Win to the Blues
umm, he missed the R20 WIN v the Hawks last year, I wont mention Browny did to...No doubt make it tougher but not impossible ..Note that stevens misses thru suspension...here's hoping he can get up...has just under a couple of weeks to rehab
Yes but we have Cousins now.
Foley out = Win to the Blues
umm, he missed the R20 WIN v the Hawks last year, I wont mention Browny did to...No doubt make it tougher but not impossible ..Note that stevens misses thru suspension...here's hoping he can get up...has just under a couple of weeks to rehab
We played really well against the Hawks last year but lets face it it was Round 20 in what turned out to be their premiership year.
I doubt they really cared about the result, one bit.
may well be the case of one door closes and another opens for Foley
may well be the case of one door closes and another opens for Foley
good point.
i mean collins of course ;)
Gee is it that bad??
I guess we'll have to wait until training this week to see where Foley is at :-\.
Here is some of the comments from another site:
went to training today and Foley was still on crutches When i spoke to him he said "all going well he will be ok for round 1." The ankle wasn't heavily bandaged, it just had a compression slip on it. BUT you never can tell with ankles.
Training was good. Players that i didn't see out on the park were. Foley, Vickery, Connors and Cotchin worked away from the group.. Geez Cotchin has unbelievably sharp hands.. The whole team was upbeat with plenty of laughing going on. It was interesting to notice Shulz and Jack worked together a lot. Jake King looked like he'd been in a rumble, Patto said his ankle was pretty good. It wasn't a flat out session and all the players that played for coburg left early.
Petts was running around really well.
Of the cubs Nahas was ok. Browne has really good ball skills for a big fella. Alroy looks extremely shy but good skills, Post shows a stack of talent. Collins looked ok but needs some meat on him. Hislop i don't think will play round 1. Thompson looked good, a ready made player.
No chance for Round 1 going by what Big Kel told me when I left training.
I did WP its on the previous page.
No chance for Round 1 going by what Big Kel told me when I left training.What's no chance for Round 1 according to "Big Kel"? Winning? Foley playing, Hislop, Thompson, Nahas or Collins playing? There were a few things referred to there.
I am excited about the opportunity this opening may provide but am concerned with the quality of player any inclusion would be replacing. Foley takes the oppositions best tagger week in week out freeing up players like Lids and Tuck. If Foley is absent then Tuck will be tagged which will be a big problem for us considering his clearance capability and superior strength around stoppages. Tuck led our clearance and hardball gets in 2008 but with Foley absent the full burden would be placed on his shoulders.Yep Thomson seems favourite to come in if Foley misses. Maybe Polo as he is hard at it too although not a known clearance winner.
Whoever would replace Foley would need to help Tuck in this role which in my opinion only leaves Thomson and possibly Polo. Hislop and King have the determination and fire but lack the skill at this point.
I hope Foley comes up but otherwise we need to rotate Thomson, White, Lids, Cousins and Polo through the middle to attempt to fill the temporary void.
Stripes
Tiggytam asked Terry about Foley.
It’s a rolled ankle and nothing to worry about.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=230713&postcount=4
Quote from: AndurilTiggytam asked Terry about Foley.
It’s a rolled ankle and nothing to worry about.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=230713&postcount=4
:thumbsup
Quote from: AndurilTiggytam asked Terry about Foley.
It’s a rolled ankle and nothing to worry about.
Now for the first time since Friday.....I can have have a good nights sleep. :gotigers
Quote from: AndurilTiggytam asked Terry about Foley.
It’s a rolled ankle and nothing to worry about.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=230713&postcount=4
:thumbsup
I spoke to one of the fitness coordinators at training today and he said Foley will be right for round 1 :thumbsup.
He said Foley just rolled his ankle (common outside of the ankle sprain) during the Brisbane game and the good thing was because it was a preseason game they didn't have to get him back out on the ground as you would during the real stuff. So Axel is fine. They are keeping the weight of his foot all this week (hence the crutches) so the ankle heals fully in time for Thursday week.
Thank gawd for that! :thumbsup
Any more news on this folks??Not on Foley specifically but Fev seems to be on a similar rehab program to Axel and he was off his crutches today. If everything is going to plan then you'd expect Foley to also be off his crutches by Monday and hopefully doing some training by the last training session before the game.
there seems to be a bit of chatter that foley's injury
may interupt most of his year, interesting that i was told
it was nothing to severe.
the club playing this tight.
the sun today says foley will be as good as gold for thursday
someone else apparently will be added to the LTIL either Cotch/Johnson/Pettifer?
hopefully cotch is still tracking well
the sun today says foley will be as good as gold for thursday
someone else apparently will be added to the LTIL either Cotch/Johnson/Pettifer?
hopefully cotch is still tracking well
Do you know when we will know?
Stripes
the sun today says foley will be as good as gold for thursday
someone else apparently will be added to the LTIL either Cotch/Johnson/Pettifer?
hopefully cotch is still tracking well
Do you know when we will know?
Stripes
Great news about Axel and fits in with what our fitness coordinator said.
The Sportal site had Petts on March 14 listed as gone for the season with a knee. He made a miraculous recovery though because he was training with the main squad 4 days later lol. Great investigative work by Sportal there :wallywink.
If a player goes onto the LTIL he needs to be out for 8 weeks. Maybe Sugar's knee is worse than first thought. He was the only one there on Wednesday not doing any training. Cotch was running and Petts is expected back by round 3.
Great news about Axel and fits in with what our fitness coordinator said.
The Sportal site had Petts on March 14 listed as gone for the season with a knee. He made a miraculous recovery though because he was training with the main squad 4 days later lol. Great investigative work by Sportal there :wallywink.
If a player goes onto the LTIL he needs to be out for 8 weeks. Maybe Sugar's knee is worse than first thought. He was the only one there on Wednesday not doing any training. Cotch was running and Petts is expected back by round 3.
Great news about Axel and fits in with what our fitness coordinator said.
The Sportal site had Petts on March 14 listed as gone for the season with a knee. He made a miraculous recovery though because he was training with the main squad 4 days later lol. Great investigative work by Sportal there :wallywink.
If a player goes onto the LTIL he needs to be out for 8 weeks. Maybe Sugar's knee is worse than first thought. He was the only one there on Wednesday not doing any training. Cotch was running and Petts is expected back by round 3.
Thats good news about Cotch, shame about Johnson if it is the case, Petts, well I will give him one more go.
I actually thought Pettifer was already on the LTIL :-\Yep you're right WP but I believe he comes off it by round 3.
so Kane Johnson is on The L.T.I.L ???Well no one knows for sure. We are just surmising.
Gone down about 2 notches atleast from his best. Have we seen his best? If this is what hes gonna deliver would you Trade him at the end of the year?
Stupid comments on Foley, he was almost all Australian and BOG for the Vic's. Perhaps if he had more help from the players around him he could play his game!!!
Stupid comments on Foley, he was almost all Australian and BOG for the Vic's. Perhaps if he had more help from the players around him he could play his game!!!
We can't afford to trade Foley, we don't have enough depth to cover for him
With the impending departure of so many senior players, Foley is the tough inside mid we need to carry much of the load
We can't afford to trade Foley, we don't have enough depth to cover for him
With the impending departure of so many senior players, Foley is the tough inside mid we need to carry much of the load
w\yes we do, edwards is a classy kid, and he is developing nicely. better skilled player and thinker than foley
if cogs hold up and cuz comes though there is no room 4 foley
Foley is either a tradeable commodity for a high draft pick in October or he needs to recapture his 2007 form.
Stupid comments on Foley, he was almost all Australian and BOG for the Vic's. Perhaps if he had more help from the players around him he could play his game!!!
Stupid comments on Foley, he was almost all Australian and BOG for the Vic's. Perhaps if he had more help from the players around him he could play his game!!!
u mean in the soccer match where ur allowed to touch the ball??
LMFAO@ That piece of poo game and u for using it as an argument againsts foleys' shitness,
LMAO@ Blaming players around him when HE is the one who turns the stuffen thing over all the effen time,u idiot!!
FO!
I don't reckon Axel is 100% right and not just due to that ankle/foot injury he copped preseason although his kicking has gone right off since that foot injury. Yep he's lost that explosive pace from stoppages. I wonder if he has some minor OP/groin injury he's continuing to play on through. There were some whispers going around in the second half of last year he might have.
I don't believe it's selfishness. There is though probably a pressure to play on despite injury so as to not let your teammates down because we lack depth in certain areas. Especially if the team is struggling for a win. Obviously Foley should not have played round 1 with his foot/ankle injury. I don't believe it's point 2 either because Axel is a tough bugger. I have heard last year that other clubs thought if they targetted Foley when they played us by continually bashing and crashing into him then they could beat us. Such was Foley's importance to us in their eyes. It was the reason we traded for Thomson and Hislop :P. Too bad they aren't good enough to get into the side despite our poor start to protect Axel :scream.I don't reckon Axel is 100% right and not just due to that ankle/foot injury he copped preseason although his kicking has gone right off since that foot injury. Yep he's lost that explosive pace from stoppages. I wonder if he has some minor OP/groin injury he's continuing to play on through. There were some whispers going around in the second half of last year he might have.
Well that suggests a few things that are indicative of the RFC.
1) Injury has been mismanaged by RFC. Axel should have been put under the knife in the post season to rectify his groins or sitting out in round 1 or whatever. Again playing an injured player. Memo about Richmond today.
2) Cannot play through the pain barrier and if affects his performance. Much like Laidley's comments about Wells a few weeks back. Harsh but it is reality.
3) Selfishness of player to play and underperform rather than take a stint on the sidelines.
If he is injured we are 1-5 and a loss to Brissy 1-6 with a game against Port in Adelaide in a fortnight. Season gone. Put him under the knife. It will give him time to recover and be ready for pre season training in October and therefore those debilitating niggles will be gone.
Don't be selfish about this. At his best he is a gun and at 100% with the other players in the midfield will be a valuable asset.
Conversely if his mind is shot and above the shoulders he is gone as mentioned earlier in this thread trade him to another club whilst others feel there is value to him. Furthermore if injuries are worse than what the club are indicating definentely trade him to another club whilst we can conceal the true extent of his injuries and we may get more out of a trade.
Time to grow some gonads Tigers and make 100% solutions for the clubs future benefit.
I don't reckon Axel is 100% right and not just due to that ankle/foot injury he copped preseason although his kicking has gone right off since that foot injury. Yep he's lost that explosive pace from stoppages. I wonder if he has some minor OP/groin injury he's continuing to play on through. There were some whispers going around in the second half of last year he might have.
No, he escaped the radar because he improved his kicking substatially to the point that he was AFL standard for an inside midfielder. He's gone backwards this year, due to injury or otherwise.I don't reckon Axel is 100% right and not just due to that ankle/foot injury he copped preseason although his kicking has gone right off since that foot injury. Yep he's lost that explosive pace from stoppages. I wonder if he has some minor OP/groin injury he's continuing to play on through. There were some whispers going around in the second half of last year he might have.
foleys kicking has never ever been reliable and good, he has escaped the radar on his bad disposal because he is hard at it and used to burst out of packs, but he cant even do that now
Stupid comments on Foley, he was almost all Australian and BOG for the Vic's. Perhaps if he had more help from the players around him he could play his game!!!
u mean in the soccer match where ur allowed to touch the ball??
LMFAO@ That piece of poo game and u for using it as an argument againsts foleys' pooness,
LMAO@ Blaming players around him when HE is the one who turns the effen thing over all the effen time,u idiot!!
FO!
its at richmond and the fans alike always find excuses and are too afraid to make the hard decision on players
i get it, because we are a top team who thrives in its own success :wallywink
its time we had afooty department with king size balls to make the right call on players
we need a malcom blight kinda person , to come in and from day one axe all the players who should not be their, stamp his mark and make the rules, new rules, not continue with the same old bs that happens at rfc
Didn't Foley play the second half of the game wearing Number 47 ?
-Rhett Bartlett
I believe Rhett may have a point. I noticed someone wearing 47 but followed the play and didn't focus on who it was.
I believe Rhett may have a point. I noticed someone wearing 47 but followed the play and didn't focus on who it was.
I was up in the Southern Stand so the numbers can be a bit hard to read at times :P
I always thought the hammy was in the top half of the leg.It is. On the bench Axel had his calf iced up but the AFL site is saying a hammy whereas the Herald-Sun says it's an ankle ???.
I always thought the hammy was in the top half of the leg.It is. On the bench Axel had his calf iced up but the AFL site is saying a hammy whereas the Herald-Sun says it's an ankle ???.
looked to me they were working on his ankle...he wouldnt have come back on with a hammy...what kind of irresponsible reckless medics do you think we have :oNot a great year from them :P
I hope it is not a calf, they are notoriously slow healers! Lets hope for the ankle....
I hope it is not a calf, they are notoriously slow healers! Lets hope for the ankle....
lets hope for a calf ;)
n need for him to play agasin this yr
I've got this second hand from a family member by apparently Doc Larkins said it's a calf and Axel will miss 2-3 weeks.
I've got this second hand from a family member by apparently Doc Larkins said it's a calf and Axel will miss 2-3 weeks.
HE DID HAVE HIS CALF ICED UP , but who really cares, i am one of the most overrated posters in the oer, with any luck we will never see me again
I've got this second hand from a family member by apparently Doc Larkins said it's a calf and Axel will miss 2-3 weeks.
HE DID HAVE HIS CALF ICED UP , but who really cares, i am one of the most overrated posters in the oer, with any luck we will never see me again
I've got this second hand from a family member by apparently Doc Larkins said it's a calf and Axel will miss 2-3 weeks.
HE DID HAVE HIS CALF ICED UP , but who really cares, i am one of the most overrated posters in the oer, with any luck we will never see me again
Play our cards correct and dont cave in and Sydney could hand over there 1st pick, they seem to really rate Foley from what I hear.
no its a businessI'm not talking about the idea of the trade, I'm talking about you
u want to gain something special in a trade u have to give up something of worth
Youll also find that Hawthorn want a key position defender from us. We will have plenty of trade options open at the end of the season. We have our own pick, we have the swans after a player and we also have hawthorn after one of our key defenders. The swans are usually decent to deal with on picks but hawthorn are bastards who try to screw other clubs.
Big trading period coming up I reckon. Id be disappointed if we didnt have atleast 2 picks in the top 8 picks.
Youll also find that Hawthorn want a key position defender from us. We will have plenty of trade options open at the end of the season. We have our own pick, we have the swans after a player and we also have hawthorn after one of our key defenders. The swans are usually decent to deal with on picks but hawthorn are bastards who try to screw other clubs.
Big trading period coming up I reckon. Id be disappointed if we didnt have atleast 2 picks in the top 8 picks.
I don't get it Ramps, why not settle the list down, delist the cloggers and the oldies. We are finally getting somewhere with a group of players that have 4-6 seasons under their belt. Why not keep them at the club and get these long promised facilities/footy dept staff and development coaches to optimise their potential?
We are not a bottom 3 side - not top 8 yet but that could come quicker than we think if we are patient and get a couple of off field appointments right.
If you were a Geelong supporter, you would've wanted Ablett shipped off after his 5th season. Foley's shown plenty for the amount of time he's played. Keep him. He bleeds Y&B.
Calf catches up with Nathan Foley
Matt Windley | July 06, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Foley is likely to miss three weeks with a calf injury sustained in the Tigers' loss to Adelaide on Saturday night.
Coach Jade Rawlings said Foley injured his right calf at training last week but doctors had cleared him on Friday to play.
He said the injury became sore as the game wore on. Foley is now likely to have scans.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25738175-19742,00.html
Calf catches up with Nathan Foley
Matt Windley | July 06, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Foley is likely to miss three weeks with a calf injury sustained in the Tigers' loss to Adelaide on Saturday night.
Coach Jade Rawlings said Foley injured his right calf at training last week but doctors had cleared him on Friday to play.
He said the injury became sore as the game wore on. Foley is now likely to have scans.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25738175-19742,00.html
Calf catches up with Nathan Foley
Matt Windley | July 06, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Foley is likely to miss three weeks with a calf injury sustained in the Tigers' loss to Adelaide on Saturday night.
Coach Jade Rawlings said Foley injured his right calf at training last week but doctors had cleared him on Friday to play.
He said the injury became sore as the game wore on. Foley is now likely to have scans.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25738175-19742,00.html
But my question is (like round 1) why send him back on ?
Wonder if they sent him back on because they are paranoid about their interchange rotations?That's most likely the reason. It was when Richo went back on against North.
Apparently a really nice kid...not that i give a eff.
Jake-u should be dwn here now.
Axel injured his ankle before last season started and even though it still wasn't right by our last training before round 1 he was still picked and allowed to play against the Bluebaggers. They just jabbed the ankle to the max. Had a shocker too with heaps of clangers as he couldn't kick. The ankle hasn't been right since. Got to be honest it is concerning :-\.
not as if we're gonna do any good this season anyway, so we need to keep him on ice until he is right. also gives our young mids a chance to shine. only let foley return when he is 100% healed.Totally agree peggles. The problem in the past has been we have been such a ordinary side we've lived from week to week on the either good or moreso poor result of the previous game and selections are made to just get through the next game in desperation to snatch a win. It's one thing to take it one week at a time but not at the expense of a player or the team going forward. Better to lose a good player for a week or two than have him playing injured and below par for the whole season.
Needs to be put up at years end to the Gold Coast for a decent pick, same goes for McGuane. We can live without both and the picks could be quite valuable going forward IMHO.
Great to see and best of luck to him, Floey is an important part of our midfield and was sorely missed when he went down. Also interesting to note that he finished 6th in the club B&F after missing the last 8 games. Considering some players in the top 10 finished further back than him and they played 21-22 games!!!!
Great to see and best of luck to him, Floey is an important part of our midfield and was sorely missed when he went down. Also interesting to note that he finished 6th in the club B&F after missing the last 8 games. Considering some players in the top 10 finished further back than him and they played 21-22 games!!!!
interesting that cousins finished 5th after playing a similar number of games. Not sure if that is credit to then or tells us poor the others were.
A fortnight's a long time in footy (especially the pre-season ;D)We would've hoped with the start of a new era that the Club would've learnt to no longer pretend to supporters that a player's injury isn't as concerning as it is ::). Foley hasn't been right since he originally hurt his ankle in the Brisbane preseason game last year and then was okayed to play in round 1 when he clearly wasn't right. He was hardly walking properly in the last training session before round 1 and only played after the ankle was jabbed up to the tilt so it was numb :-\.
From the RFC web-site:
Minor setback for Foley
6:01 PM Wed 27 January, 2010
Richmond midfielder Nathan Foley has suffered a minor injury setback which has him in doubt for the start of the 2010 season.
Foley underwent minor surgery today to relieve some soreness in the same ankle which prematurely ended his 2009 season.
“Nathan had been progressing well with his rehabilitation program, but has experienced some soreness in the last week,” Richmond Elite Performance Manager Matthew Hornsby said.
“The medical staff decided the best course of action was for him to have minor surgery.”
“The surgery will prevent him from running for the next couple of weeks, and we will continue to take a cautious approach with his recovery,” Hornsby said.
for richmondfc.com.au
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/88979/default.aspx
MT, mail around when he went down at Carrara was a ""reoccurring Achilles problem."" that got worse. Very worse.
I seem to think the club has told alot of crap with his injury
The fact that they can use local anesthetic injections to numb the pain is a blight on the game and makes a mockery of the leagues drug policy.
If a player needs to be drugged to overcome the pain of an injury, just in order to take the field, then that is performance enhancing. It also causes more harm to the body if used over the long term in such a way as many banned drugs, due to the damage being done working injured parts of the body that should be rested.
Another FU from the AFL.
The fact that they can use local anesthetic injections to numb the pain is a blight on the game and makes a mockery of the leagues drug policy.
If a player needs to be drugged to overcome the pain of an injury, just in order to take the field, then that is performance enhancing. It also causes more harm to the body if used over the long term in such a way as many banned drugs, due to the damage being done working injured parts of the body that should be rested.
Another FU from the AFL.
bad player management its called
see Mark Coghlan 8)
Hardwick said he had an irritation in his ankle. WTF is an irritation? a mozzie? a kid humbugging him for an autograph? bone spures? peices of floating bone?
A fortnight's a long time in footy (especially the pre-season ;D)We would've hoped with the start of a new era that the Club would've learnt to no longer pretend to supporters that a player's injury isn't as concerning as it is ::). Foley hasn't been right since he originally hurt his ankle in the Brisbane preseason game last year and then was okayed to play in round 1 when he clearly wasn't right. He was hardly walking properly in the last training session before round 1 and only played after the ankle was jabbed up to the tilt so it was numb :-\.
From the RFC web-site:
Minor setback for Foley
6:01 PM Wed 27 January, 2010
Richmond midfielder Nathan Foley has suffered a minor injury setback which has him in doubt for the start of the 2010 season.
Foley underwent minor surgery today to relieve some soreness in the same ankle which prematurely ended his 2009 season.
“Nathan had been progressing well with his rehabilitation program, but has experienced some soreness in the last week,” Richmond Elite Performance Manager Matthew Hornsby said.
“The medical staff decided the best course of action was for him to have minor surgery.”
“The surgery will prevent him from running for the next couple of weeks, and we will continue to take a cautious approach with his recovery,” Hornsby said.
for richmondfc.com.au
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/88979/default.aspx
In the interview Hardwick said there was an irritation in his ankle and they didnt want this irritation to put stress on his achillies, which is fine.Hardwick said he had an irritation in his ankle. WTF is an irritation? a mozzie? a kid humbugging him for an autograph? bone spures? peices of floating bone?
Its called an Achilles
In the interview Hardwick said there was an irritation in his ankle and they didnt want this irritation to put stress on his achillies, which is fine.Hardwick said he had an irritation in his ankle. WTF is an irritation? a mozzie? a kid humbugging him for an autograph? bone spures? peices of floating bone?
Its called an Achilles
Moore said midfielder Nathan Foley was progressing well in his rehabilitation from an ankle injury, but was not expected to play until round one of the season proper.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/89936/default.aspx
Axel has missed most the preseason and still is in the rehab group. Hard to see him being ready for round 1 when he is so underdone even if the ankle were to come good.
I am happy to reveal that foley has turned the corner on his rehab. All things going well he will be available for senior selection by round 4Ta blaisee. Fingers crossed his ankle comes good :pray.
I am happy to reveal that foley has turned the corner on his rehab. All things going well he will be available for senior selection by round 4Ta blaisee. Fingers crossed his ankle comes good :pray.
It's hard to see him having a major impact this year anyway with no preseason so hopefully he can get his ankle right, play most of the games after round 4 and get through this year unscathed so he's right to do a full preseason in readiness for 2011.
Get well soon Axe.
Heaven knows we need you. :pray
“It’s probably becoming very doubtful for round one, obviously but with the way it’s progressing hopefully it won’t be too far after that,” Foley told BigPond Sports Weekend.
“I’ll certainly pick it up in the next couple of weeks and see how it responds and if all goes well it shouldn’t be too far away.”
http://www.bigpondsport.com/news/tabid/281/newsid/42971/foley-on-comeback-trail/default.aspx
“It’s probably becoming very doubtful for round one, obviously but with the way it’s progressing hopefully it won’t be too far after that,” Foley told BigPond Sports Weekend.
“I’ll certainly pick it up in the next couple of weeks and see how it responds and if all goes well it shouldn’t be too far away.”
http://www.bigpondsport.com/news/tabid/281/newsid/42971/foley-on-comeback-trail/default.aspx
So if theres no problem he may start full training Round 1 or 2. Geez Richmond, stop mucking about. Leave Foley on the LTIL for the first four weeks and allow someone to come off the rookie list. There is absolutely NO RUSH that's how we got to this problem in the first place.
“I’ll certainly pick it up in the next couple of weeks and see how it responds and if all goes well it shouldn’t be too far away.”Given he hasn't "picked up" training yet and has missed the whole preseason he must be at least a month away bare minimum surely.
From Greg Denham in today's Australian...
Richmond's quickest midfielder, Foley, is not likely to return until May. After breaking down with an ankle injury in round 14 last year against Adelaide at the Gold Coast, he required further surgery in January.
Tigers general manager of football operations Craig Cameron said yesterday Foley may need to have a match-conditioning game in the VFL before being considered for his senior comeback.
"He's turned the corner, but it's still slow going," Cameron said of Foley's rehabilitation.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/richmonds-debutants-take-to-the-stage/story-e6frg7mf-1225842562988
and when the little effker gets back in you will see more turn overs than a sara lee factory and more team mates dished off to under the pump.I don't believe this is true at all, Foley's bad disposal was primarily linked to his injury. He was playing with painkilling injections in his foot to mask the pain of his injury. Pretty hard to kick accurately when you can't feel your foot.
Really miss that aspect of our game - we need him to show the kids how to do the same :lol
and when the little effker gets back in you will see more turn overs than a sara lee factory and more team mates dished off to under the pump.I don't believe this is true at all, Foley's bad disposal was primarily linked to his injury. He was playing with painkilling injections in his foot to mask the pain of his injury. Pretty hard to kick accurately when you can't feel your foot.
Really miss that aspect of our game - we need him to show the kids how to do the same :lol
X same can be said about Sam Mitchell.
No1 wanted him and now he's a Premiership Captain. Things change and can be developed and improved.
I don't agree when people say bad kicks can't be improved.
I think Foley has been sorely missed, until his injury can you remember his runs out of the centre, the goals from those runs and the clearances. He is needed in this team more than a lot realise. I for one can't wait to have him back.
I agree that he start up with an up and under kicking style, however in his main breakout year wher he almost won the B&F he had pretty much rectified this issue. Granted he was no Luke Hodge, however for an inside midfielder, his efficiency stats (from memory) were standard for an inside midfielder. The next year when he started having foot problems, the disposal issues returned. If we can keep Foley fit, then I have no doubt that his disposal will be fine.and when the little effker gets back in you will see more turn overs than a sara lee factory and more team mates dished off to under the pump.I don't believe this is true at all, Foley's bad disposal was primarily linked to his injury. He was playing with painkilling injections in his foot to mask the pain of his injury. Pretty hard to kick accurately when you can't feel your foot.
Really miss that aspect of our game - we need him to show the kids how to do the same :lol
i dont normally agree with ox but this time i do, foley had crap disposal even b4 his injury, has since day dot, why do u think that the cats and every othe rteam didnt get him when he was highly rated at the geelong falcons
anyway lets hope he has worked on his skills, getting the pill has never been a problem , but like jackson, his skills are poo
lol faark me sideways with claw hammer....Foley has been one of our few shining lights in recent years surely! Even got picked up by Thompson for the Vic squad coz he does win his own ball and goes alright. I can't wait for him to get back in the squad, our engine room should be looking sports car schmick by then. When him and Tucky were in the guts, they used to demolish the hard ball, they were good together.
Well Damien, many of us know how good he is and we have waited a while to have a fit Foley in the side. Just think, so many wan't him traded or de-listed... ??? Don't think he will be going anyware and neither he should IMO, he is our main midfielder and has been for a while now, injuries have had him down. He is not even 100% fit, so imagine when he is back to his best next year with the likes of Martin, Foley, Cotchin etc in the midfield we will have a good time.......Delicious :lolWHO WANTED HIM TRADED OR DELISTED?
Well Damien, many of us know how good he is and we have waited a while to have a fit Foley in the side. Just think, so many wan't him traded or de-listed... ??? Don't think he will be going anyware and neither he should IMO, he is our main midfielder and has been for a while now, injuries have had him down. He is not even 100% fit, so imagine when he is back to his best next year with the likes of Martin, Foley, Cotchin etc in the midfield we will have a good time.......Delicious :lolWHO WANTED HIM TRADED OR DELISTED?
ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT OR ARE THERE SOME POSTERS ON HERE THAT REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF ONE OF OUR ONLY GOOD PLAYERS. ::)
Well Damien, many of us know how good he is and we have waited a while to have a fit Foley in the side. Just think, so many wan't him traded or de-listed... ??? Don't think he will be going anyware and neither he should IMO, he is our main midfielder and has been for a while now, injuries have had him down. He is not even 100% fit, so imagine when he is back to his best next year with the likes of Martin, Foley, Cotchin etc in the midfield we will have a good time.......Delicious :lolWHO WANTED HIM TRADED OR DELISTED?
ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT OR ARE THERE SOME POSTERS ON HERE THAT REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF ONE OF OUR ONLY GOOD PLAYERS. ::)
Well Damien, many of us know how good he is and we have waited a while to have a fit Foley in the side. Just think, so many wan't him traded or de-listed... ??? Don't think he will be going anyware and neither he should IMO, he is our main midfielder and has been for a while now, injuries have had him down. He is not even 100% fit, so imagine when he is back to his best next year with the likes of Martin, Foley, Cotchin etc in the midfield we will have a good time.......Delicious :lolWHO WANTED HIM TRADED OR DELISTED?
ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT OR ARE THERE SOME POSTERS ON HERE THAT REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF ONE OF OUR ONLY GOOD PLAYERS. ::)
I doubt there would be a single player (excepting first year players), that someone hasn't said they want traded or delisted
First up he doesn't need to be signed up as he signed a 3 year deal last year
First up he doesn't need to be signed up as he signed a 3 year deal last year
Secondly, I will put my hand up and say yes I threw him up as a possible trade. Reasons being simple really
* To get a decent pick you need to offer something decent in return (the RFC really struggles with this concept I nmight add ;D). Foley fits that criteria
* His 2009 pre injury was not that great, he was struggling with the tag and like (I think X said earlier) his disposal at times is dodgy. Also he was trying to break lines and getting caught far too often which resulted in major turn overs which equals making poor decisions
* We had a number of young mids coming through that could play a similar role
Having said that I thought last week was the best game of footy I've seen Foley play in a couple of seasons. Blind freddy could see how important he is to our set up. However, it needs to be standard (disposal & decision making) every week
As Owl said as long as you get something of quality that you need ........ Like maybe an in and under midfielder who is good at clearances to take the focus of Cotch and Dusty and allows Lid to be a Hodge type player in the backline
this in house competition for spots breeds a great culture of hunger.
good to see us get a win over port last week but no doubt saints will bring us back to earth.
Well isn't it good to have a problem like this!!
Despite playing on a pristine surface under a closed roof, I think you'll find the match will bear a lot of similarities to the Port Adelaide game. There'll be lots of ugly clinches and excessive numbers around the ball, and we'll have to continually negotiate our way through a human flood, instead of a liquid one, as is the St. Kilda way.
The best preparation the boys can have would be to watch the tapes and take note of how Essendon and Carlton managed it.
Well isn't it good to have a problem like this!!
I think we're getting a tiny bit ahead of ourselves.
Collins out, Foley In
SEN have been saying this repeatedly, however given he's contracted for another 2 years after this season they'll have to hand over Picks 3 & 15 to get him.
SEN just played a grab with Cotch saying Foley is still having problems with his ankle/achilles/just above his ankle.
You've got to seriously question if they even know exactly what the problem is and/or how to fix it.A fair question given he's had the problem now for 15 months. It is a major concern :-\
You've got to seriously question if they even know exactly what the problem is and/or how to fix it.A fair question given he's had the problem now for 15 months. It is a major concern :-\
You've got to seriously question if they even know exactly what the problem is and/or how to fix it.A fair question given he's had the problem now for 15 months. It is a major concern :-\
Huge concern.
when it happened, they said it was an ankle, although everyone knew it was an achilles.
I have had and still have achilles issues, although not knowing the extent of his injury, would say he is in trouble..
As once you try and do speed work , it usually flares up again
From the reports Cotchins problems are due to the muscles and tendons growing at different rates. Given his age I'd guess foleys injury is some sort of physical damage or degenerative injury. If it's the later then he is stuffed.
initially it could be and just has not repaired. running on it - most probably with pain killing injections - would not have helped.
Does this mean we're now officially tanking?
Hope he has a speedy recovery. Important player for the club. Club did the right thing not to risk his health. Hopefully he will be injury free next yearDitto.
career is over.
What's wrong with Foley?
I hope he gets promoted soon coz I really beleive he will be a good player. He has real clean hands, but most important of all he knows how to get the footy and reads the play really well. I think he can be a great rover. He has gained 7kg over summer so his body is almost right weight wise. His kicking was his main weakness, but hopefully he can rectify this.
Heck, if chumps like Pettifer, Chaffey, Hilton can get a spot on an AFL list, then so can Axle.
Go Foley - I like the kid.
Hopefully he hasn't lost that explosive burst, would be real handy in this team.Let's hope so CUB. The main now is for him not to break down again.
Fingers crossed on this one :-\okay im regarded as an hole on here but on this im with ya.
who is that klutz looking for a crab-hole? Is it jacko? :banghead
who is that klutz looking for a crab-hole? Is it jacko? :banghead
Browne would be my guess
Foley adds pace and hardness to the middle. A vital player. He doesn't have the skill of martin, deledio or cotchin though. But he adds another dimension to the middle
yeah he will show us all how to win the hard ball, bust his guts break the pack , just to turn it over lol
yeah he will show us all how to win the hard ball, bust his guts break the pack , just to turn it over lolYeh he turns it over so much that the last time he was fit and firing he got selected to play for The Vics and starred.
I am constantly baffled why Richmond supporters seem to think Foley has poor disposal. We will see the difference to Gary Abletts disposal when he has a bunch of 17 yo stick insects protecting him as the ball carrier instead of Bartel, Ling, Corey etc.
Foley has never had any support from team mates providing blocks or physical pressure to give Foley that extra second or 2 to dispose of the ball.
If he is fit, we will see a gun footballer on the park this year.
Apparently its easy to have top disposal when you have had your ankle full of painkilling shots for the last couple of years
I am constantly baffled why Richmond supporters seem to think Foley has poor disposal. We will see the difference to Gary Abletts disposal when he has a bunch of 17 yo stick insects protecting him as the ball carrier instead of Bartel, Ling, Corey etc.
Foley has never had any support from team mates providing blocks or physical pressure to give Foley that extra second or 2 to dispose of the ball.
If he is fit, we will see a gun footballer on the park this year.
LMFAO @ your support for some players and your criticism of others. ;D You were probably one of those tough guys booing Tambling last year.
What do you think of Edwards these days daniel?
Foley if he can get back to where he was will be a gun. He has no worse disposal than a fair few others in the team.
sympathy article.Don't be ridiculous, the guy is an A grade mid.
its over foley.
sympathy article.Don't be ridiculous, the guy is an A grade mid.
its over foley.
No one should expect him to dominate from the moment he starts back up after so little football in the last 24 months
sympathy article.
its over foley.
DUD delete him
why are the gentetically / tooth challenged trolling our forum? No tongue room left to groom maxwells behind?
Has improved with every game, hopefully he can keep it going. Was impressive at the bottom of the packs on Saturday :thumbsup
why are the gentetically / tooth challenged trolling our forum? No tongue room left to groom maxwells behind?
:shhcareer is over.
yep, should have traded him when he had currency
i mentioned this a week or so ago in another thread i was told by someone every close to him that his yr was over and looks like his ankle is stuffed for life
I agree and i love Foley dont get me wrong but i would love a young Scully also. Im just hoping the club does all it can to get him to Punt Road, especially if the Dees continue their woeful season.We can give them an out-and-out gun in McGuane ;)
Then we are talking a serious midfield not many clubs can match.
Foley stuck up a big FU tonight to everyone who said his career was over.
Without being amazing 40 touches in a game of AFL football would suggest that your probably consider "back".
Foley stuck up a big FU tonight to everyone who said his career was over.
Without being amazing 40 touches in a game of AFL football would suggest that your probably consider "back".
half his disposals were useless
worst 40 possie game i have ever seen, he cost us many scoring opportunities and created goals for the lions
stats and possessions mean jack poo, nahas only had 26 touches and his game was 50 times better than foleys
Still only 6 games back from almost 2 years off
He directly set up our first 2 goals. Watch it if you don't believe me.Foley stuck up a big FU tonight to everyone who said his career was over.
Without being amazing 40 touches in a game of AFL football would suggest that your probably consider "back".
half his disposals were useless
worst 40 possie game i have ever seen, he cost us many scoring opportunities and created goals for the lions
stats and possessions mean jack poo, nahas only had 26 touches and his game was 50 times better than foleys
Still only 6 games back from almost 2 years off
He directly set up our first 2 goals. Watch it if you don't believe me.Foley stuck up a big FU tonight to everyone who said his career was over.
Without being amazing 40 touches in a game of AFL football would suggest that your probably consider "back".
half his disposals were useless
worst 40 possie game i have ever seen, he cost us many scoring opportunities and created goals for the lions
stats and possessions mean jack poo, nahas only had 26 touches and his game was 50 times better than foleys
He may have had more, but I didn't pay as much attention after that, since I was at work. 40 possessions is nothing to scoff at.
40 possessions at 83% effectiveness with 8 clearances plus 4 tackles.
16 contested 28 uncontested.
Stupid post.
He directly set up our first 2 goals. Watch it if you don't believe me.
40 possessions at 83% effectiveness with 8 clearances plus 4 tackles.
16 contested 28 uncontested.
Stupid post.
I am interested to know how they define "effectiveness" & "clangers" to be honest?
Because if you mark the ball and then play on (stupidly) and as you are getting tackled you handball the thing to the ground so you dont' get pinged for holding the ball and it ends up being a ball up what is it? How is that classified? It's not a clanger and IMHO it isn't effective, it is a "nothing" so how does that impact a players stats?He directly set up our first 2 goals. Watch it if you don't believe me.
And unfortunately in the 3rd qtr he directly set up at least 2 goals for the Lions when they had their run on so they almost cancel one another out to be honest
Look I thought as the game went on Foley got a lot better but some of his "nothing" disposals as I call them hurt us.
The 40 odd touches didn't impress me as much as Guy McKenna but then again Guy has much bigger things to worry about then I do :rollin
well said WP im with u all the way
foley gets alot of the ball, but most of his touches are crap, he lacks quality touches and many of his touches hurt us
he comes from colac and is overrated
he looks good but isnt , we must use him in a trade to get scully
he comes from colac and is overrated
he looks good but isnt , we must use him in a trade to get scully
Your opinion is just dumb.
he comes from colac and is overrated
he looks good but isnt , we must use him in a trade to get scully
Your opinion is just dumb.
and ur opinion is oh so intelligent :bow
I've yet to see a post from you that isn't dripping in negativity. Lighten up.he comes from colac and is overrated
he looks good but isnt , we must use him in a trade to get scully
Your opinion is just dumb.
and ur opinion is oh so intelligent :bow
I've yet to see a post from you that isn't dripping in negativity. Lighten up.he comes from colac and is overrated
he looks good but isnt , we must use him in a trade to get scully
Your opinion is just dumb.
and ur opinion is oh so intelligent :bow
I've yet to see a post from you that isn't dripping in negativity. Lighten up.he comes from colac and is overrated
he looks good but isnt , we must use him in a trade to get scully
Your opinion is just dumb.
and ur opinion is oh so intelligent :bow
maybe cause his posts are full of lies ;D
I am interested to know how they define "effectiveness" & "clangers" to be honest?Just on this WP, in last weekend's Record they said they are changing the way they will work out "effectiveness". Apparently they store over 400 different types of kicks for their statistical analysis and so they plan to determine what the average 'completion rate' is for each kick and then give each player a plus or minus score depending on how much better/worse they are than the average. I believe that means a few Tigers who consistently fail to hit open teammates on the full by foot will now get a minus score whereas under the old way these kicks that miss the target on the full yet still eventually end up with the teammate were still counted as an effective pass.
Because if you mark the ball and then play on (stupidly) and as you are getting tackled you handball the thing to the ground so you dont' get pinged for holding the ball and it ends up being a ball up what is it? How is that classified? It's not a clanger and IMHO it isn't effective, it is a "nothing" so how does that impact a players stats?
The best of Nathan Foley:The achilles injury has dimished those quick multi-boucing bursts out of the middle of Axel's. In saying that this season was more about him getting through the year unscathed without breaking down again.
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/364876/the-best-of-nathan-foley/
well done.
Still has heart in mouth disposal,foot and hand but he sure has put egg on my face......and i could not be happier
well done.:thumbsup :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
Still has heart in mouth disposal,foot and hand but he sure has put egg on my face......and i could not be happier
For mine yesterday was arguably Axel's best game since returning from his ankle problems. He still hasn't got back those bursts away from the centrebounces but kicking goals from the midfield was a glimpse back to the Foley of old. He used the ball mostly well as well with an 86% disposal efficiency.
Much better game but then again after last week that wouldn't have been hard
Massive increase in trade value yesterday I would have thought :rollin :rollin :rollin
:jump :jump
:yep
:eyebrow :eyebrow
:outtahere
we need to keep foley
While all the midfield attention is on Cotch and Martin, Axel is quietly going about his footy resurrection back to his 2007-8 form. Another 25 disposals today plus 10 marks and 6 inside 50s. Foley's been our top possession getter when he's played this preseason. He had 12 possies in a half game against the Hawks. A 100% winning record as well when he's played so far :thumbsup.
but really he did stuff all.::) you're kidding yourself. Foley was everywhere. Played a very good game. Our 2nd best I'd say.
Good part is,less diposals=less turnovers.
:rollin
If Axel is our 'weak link' in the midfield, we are going along very nicely indeed Ox.
Another top game from Axel this preseason - 25 possies at 80% efficiency, 5 marks, 7 clearances, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal :thumbsup.
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/18551/Default.aspx#fixtureid=7897&tab=StatsAnother top game from Axel this preseason - 25 possies at 80% efficiency, 5 marks, 7 clearances, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal :thumbsup.
OE, where did you get the effectiveness stats from?
:thumbsup
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/18551/Default.aspx#fixtureid=7897&tab=Stats
Click the advanced stats tab.
Or a clanger?http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/18551/Default.aspx#fixtureid=7897&tab=Stats
Click the advanced stats tab.
thanks :bow
I wonder if they count a point as ineffective stat?
Or a clanger?
I wonder if they count a point as ineffective stat?
Or a clanger?
I wonder if they count a point as ineffective stat?
Interesting considering how many games have been one by a point over the years.
:cheers
Or a clanger?
I wonder if they count a point as ineffective stat?
Interesting considering how many games have been one by a point over the years.
:cheers
Many more have been won by 2-6 points old son ;)
Another top game from Axel this preseason - 25 possies at 80% efficiency, 5 marks, 7 clearances, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal :thumbsup.
Another top game from Axel this preseason - 25 possies at 80% efficiency, 5 marks, 7 clearances, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal :thumbsup.
God he is going great, really hope he keeps it up, starting to fly under a lot of clubs radars, they are taking him for granted. I am not sure how other teams will counter this midfield, they can't stop them all... :birthday
Another top game from Axel this preseason - 25 possies at 80% efficiency, 5 marks, 7 clearances, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal :thumbsup.
God he is going great, really hope he keeps it up, starting to fly under a lot of clubs radars, they are taking him for granted. I am not sure how other teams will counter this midfield, they can't stop them all... :birthday
Especially now with Edwards stepping up to the top shelf level as well.
;D
Another top game from Axel this preseason - 25 possies at 80% efficiency, 5 marks, 7 clearances, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal :thumbsup.
God he is going great, really hope he keeps it up, starting to fly under a lot of clubs radars, they are taking him for granted. I am not sure how other teams will counter this midfield, they can't stop them all... :birthday
Especially now with Edwards stepping up to the top shelf level as well.
;D
I think Edwards putting on size has been good for his confidence out on the ground.
If he can eradicate his momentum killing acts and kick those important goals he tends to miss from time to time then he'll become a much better player.
I think Edwards putting on size has been good for his confidence out on the ground.
If he can eradicate his momentum killing acts and kick those important goals he tends to miss from time to time then he'll become a much better player.
Have said it all along, really hopes he makes it........but and I can't say because of my word.. ;)
I think Edwards putting on size has been good for his confidence out on the ground.
If he can eradicate his momentum killing acts and kick those important goals he tends to miss from time to time then he'll become a much better player.
Have said it all along, really hopes he makes it........but and I can't say because of my word.. ;)
Not long now. Lets see how he goes when the real games start.
Prepare to unleash the fury! ;D
Surprised that there hasn't been more discussion of Nathan's excellent game against the Dees on here.
Looks to be back to his best from where I sit and it's absolutely great to see.
discussion only occurs when he has an average game..
solid game = silence
He was backing himself on the weekend which was good to see. His great strength is his ability to break lines. He needs to do this more often. Need to finish off his work by drilling those running goals too.
the test for foley now is to back it up next week, ha has not strung2 good games in ages and generally after a good game has a shocker the week after
I,ve always believed that when on song he gives us good drive. He showed that yesterday for three quarters. Was very important in the win.
I always watch what players do with it rather than just read the stats, he's been breaking lines and bursting away from packs giving our midfield another dimension.
given nathans good form are people here still wanting to trade him ?
i suppose everyone is tradable for the right price.
what would say is the right price for foley, Chuck?
WAT no one will trade for Edwards
Part of the reason why we havent done any good at the trade table is we have had nothing to trade appart from our untouchables.
WAT no one will trade for EdwardsTrade nahas before it's too late.
Part of the reason why we havent done any good at the trade table is we have had nothing to trade appart from our untouchables.
Yep let's trade him, just got the 8 votes on the footy show......enough said.has anyone said we should trade him, in these most recent discussions.
Foley is very important to this team, get off the trade him bloody bandwagon and get on the support him wagon. He is still only 25 and part of the future..
Foley is very important to this team, get off the trade him bloody bandwagon and get on the support him wagon. He is still only 25 and part of the future..
Foley is pushing 30
haha. Coach, you can be a grumpy old bastard sometimes.
Foley is very important to this team, get off the trade him bloody bandwagon and get on the support him wagon. He is still only 25 and part of the future..
Foley is pushing 30
Thought he was 25??
yeah 26, turns 27 at end of season
ok lets just speculate here ..If as many say dangerfield is available would people here throw Nathan into a deal of getting Patrick to Punt road.....Now dont get me wrong here I simply adore nathan the footballer ,i think hes a dead set gun.no way in the world would i give up foley and that pick for dangerfield. hes not that much better a footballer
i'll start off by suggesting the Tambling pick and foley for dangerfield
ok lets just speculate here ..If as many say dangerfield is available would people here throw Nathan into a deal of getting Patrick to Punt road.....Now dont get me wrong here I simply adore nathan the footballer ,i think hes a dead set gun.no way in the world would i give up foley and that pick for dangerfield. hes not that much better a footballer
i'll start off by suggesting the Tambling pick and foley for dangerfield
ok lets just speculate here ..If as many say dangerfield is available would people here throw Nathan into a deal of getting Patrick to Punt road.....Now dont get me wrong here I simply adore nathan the footballer ,i think hes a dead set gun.no way in the world would i give up foley and that pick for dangerfield. hes not that much better a footballer
i'll start off by suggesting the Tambling pick and foley for dangerfield
Agreed, a more suitable deal would be something like white/mcguane for danger...fills an abvious hole for them with departure of smart
:lol
NFI
Can we package Connors/Thursfield's old boots for Kieren Jack too
Don't knock Smartie:lol
Would walk over hot coals for his teammates
Don't knock Smartie
Would walk over hot coals for his teammates
Think you'll find it's Steven Browne moron
SuperCoach gem
MIDFIELD dynamo Nathan Foley had 134 points against the Swans and is averaging 102 points a game.
A bargain buy who has forgotten how to play a bad one.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/richmonds-improved-defence-the-key-to-its-revival/story-fn7si05c-1226354274806)
looks like same injury again, may as well say goodbyeYes, because heel and ankle are the same thing. ::)
looks like same injury again, may as well say goodbyeYes, because heel and ankle are the same thing. ::)
didn't he have a bruised heel?
didn't he have a bruised heel?
think there is more to it
Didn't train at all last week
Believe it's an Achilles issue
So will Axel play or what?
Heard a nasty rumour that Foley's injury is fairly serious and he's considering his future..
Perhaps "started a nasty rumour" is more accurate?
Perhaps "started a nasty rumour" is more accurate?
What are you 5? Whats to gain about starting a 'rumour' lol
I've heard he's serious struggling with his achilles and I hope to hell its not true, I'm hoping the 'in the knows' on here will squash it.
Yep. Here's the article about it on the RFC website too...Perhaps "started a nasty rumour" is more accurate?
What are you 5? Whats to gain about starting a 'rumour' lol
I've heard he's serious struggling with his achilles and I hope to hell its not true, I'm hoping the 'in the knows' on here will squash it.
think matt Hornsby "squashed it" today - said Foley's specialist is happy with this progess (see Injury list thread)
Heard a nasty rumour that Foley's injury is fairly serious and he's considering his future..
Whats his trade value now
losing him killed them this year
Bo to be honest i wouldnt trust RFC or any other clubs injury updates,as far as i can throw them...Remember our club initially indicated nathans injury was a one week thing.
Whats his trade value now
And you have a go at me, pathetic. Probably our best mid/player with Cotch until......now let's get rid of him and not support hin....unreal.
Got some good news re: Foley.
I spoke to a guy tonight who has very, very close family ties with the club - he went to Arizona with the boys and watches every game from a box. He tells me that the club is very happy with how Foley's oppo went, and that they are expecting him to make a full recovery and be back to normal for pre-season. He gave me the impression that they dont believe it will be an ongoing issue.
I asked him whether this was just bs the club is putting out for the fans, and he told me that this is actually what club officials believe.
Encouraging news. thumbsup
Got some good news re: Foley.
I spoke to a guy tonight who has very, very close family ties with the club - he went to Arizona with the boys and watches every game from a box. He tells me that the club is very happy with how Foley's oppo went, and that they are expecting him to make a full recovery and be back to normal for pre-season. He gave me the impression that they dont believe it will be an ongoing issue.
I asked him whether this was just bs the club is putting out for the fans, and he told me that this is actually what club officials believe.
Encouraging news. thumbsup
So he will get a FULL pre season in?
Got some good news re: Foley.
I spoke to a guy tonight who has very, very close family ties with the club - he went to Arizona with the boys and watches every game from a box. He tells me that the club is very happy with how Foley's oppo went, and that they are expecting him to make a full recovery and be back to normal for pre-season. He gave me the impression that they dont believe it will be an ongoing issue.
I asked him whether this was just bs the club is putting out for the fans, and he told me that this is actually what club officials believe.
Encouraging news. thumbsup
So he will get a FULL pre season in?
I think so, yes.
Is that a photo of you on your avatar? If so (it looks like a willy) I think your mate is taking the p 1 55
Got some good news re: Foley.
I spoke to a guy tonight who has very, very close family ties with the club - he went to Arizona with the boys and watches every game from a box. He tells me that the club is very happy with how Foley's oppo went, and that they are expecting him to make a full recovery and be back to normal for pre-season. He gave me the impression that they dont believe it will be an ongoing issue.
I asked him whether this was just bs the club is putting out for the fans, and he told me that this is actually what club officials believe.
Encouraging news. thumbsup
Is that a photo of you on your avatar? If so (it looks like a willy) I think your mate is taking the p 1 55
Perhaps "started a nasty rumour" is more accurate?
What are you 5? Whats to gain about starting a 'rumour' lol
I've heard he's serious struggling with his achilles and I hope to hell its not true, I'm hoping the 'in the knows' on here will squash it.
think matt Hornsby "squashed it" today - said Foley's specialist is happy with this progess (see Injury list thread)
Got some good news re: Foley.
I spoke to a guy tonight who has very, very close family ties with the club - he went to Arizona with the boys and watches every game from a box. He tells me that the club is very happy with how Foley's oppo went, and that they are expecting him to make a full recovery and be back to normal for pre-season. He gave me the impression that they dont believe it will be an ongoing issue.
I asked him whether this was just bs the club is putting out for the fans, and he told me that this is actually what club officials believe.
Encouraging news. thumbsup
Heard a nasty rumour that Foley's injury is fairly serious and he's considering his future..
How do you feel today now that bs story has seen the light of day, the jokes on you popey :lol
Heard a nasty rumour that Foley's injury is fairly serious and he's considering his future..
How do you feel today now that bs story has seen the light of day, the jokes on you popey :lol
You live in a strange fantasy world BJ.
AlterG treadmill a big boost for Foley
By Jaimee Damon
richmondfc.com.au
Thu 15 Nov, 2012
Richmond’s new, state-of-the-art fitness equipment, the AlterG treadmill, is playing a significant role in the recovery of star midfielder Nathan Foley and other Tiger players currently in the rehab. group, during the early phase of pre-season training.
A key component of the AlterG treadmill is its capacity to lighten the players’ bodyweight, when they’re using it, decreasing the impact on their joints.
The purchase of the AlterG was made possible through Richmond’s Fighting Tiger Fund (FTF), which has raised $6 million, allowing the Club to reduce its debt and invest back into the football department.
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151147/default.aspx
VIDEO: Foley explains AlterG treadmill
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151147/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
Hope Foley is fit for the first game but consider it an unlikely proposition. He needed an uninterrupted pre-season but I don't think he will begin training with the group until late Jan at best :'(Thought he was going to have a full pre season? Wasn't on the list of players who weren't ready to start pre season.
Hope Foley is fit for the first game but consider it an unlikely proposition. He needed an uninterrupted pre-season but I don't think he will begin training with the group until late Jan at best :'(Thought he was going to have a full pre season? Wasn't on the list of players who weren't ready to start pre season.
Hope Foley is fit for the first game but consider it an unlikely proposition. He needed an uninterrupted pre-season but I don't think he will begin training with the group until late Jan at best :'(Thought he was going to have a full pre season? Wasn't on the list of players who weren't ready to start pre season.
Only just walking with assistance now. Won't begin to run taking his full body weight for weeks yet.
Saw that. Wonder which other clubs have it.
Is it possible it could have side effects of people not running on it properly?
Hope Foley is fit for the first game but consider it an unlikely proposition. He needed an uninterrupted pre-season but I don't think he will begin training with the group until late Jan at best :'(Thought he was going to have a full pre season? Wasn't on the list of players who weren't ready to start pre season.
Only just walking with assistance now. Won't begin to run taking his full body weight for weeks yet.
Maybe they know more about his injuries?
My previous comment sounded sarcastic, but it was intended to be.
My previous comment sounded sarcastic, but it was intended to be.
;D
My previous comment sounded sarcastic, but it was intended to be.
;D
:lol
Stuff, im doing well aren't I?
Too much study and not enough tinnies for Willy the perv.
Love Axe but I was astounded the club gave him 3 years. Should have been 1 with his history of achillies problems.
Different positions, how can you compare? I doubt Axel has kicked as many goals as Edwards did this year in any year prior and from now on :whistleLove Axe but I was astounded the club gave him 3 years. Should have been 1 with his history of achillies problems.
I was astounded the club gave S.Edwards 2 years with his history of stupidity.... ;D
Even if Axel has another mishap he still would of played better throughout his career than Edwards has and ever will.. :thumbsup
didnt he say in the vid that he was only working at 65% body weight on the treadmill?
Is it possible it could have side effects of people not running on it properly?
To the contrary, IIRC in the Sydney footage about Rohan using it, the physio guy says the advantage is that the player uses his ordinary running style because there is no pain involved.
Love Axe but I was astounded the club gave him 3 years. Should have been 1 with his history of achillies problems.
I was astounded the club gave S.Edwards 2 years with his history of stupidity.... ;D
Even if Axel has another mishap he still would of played better throughout his career than Edwards has and ever will.. :thumbsup
we should have stuffed axle off yrs ago
Axel is up in Cairns in the rehab group ....
Where's Dusty and A.Edwards?Up there and training fully.
Up there and training fully.
Redsack Roo needs a tan.
surely that comes down to advice from the medical staff?
A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
You would think so.A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
Have a look at my last bit again. If Cameron comes to me (Foley, easily in our top 10 players) and says "hey champ, sign this. performance based chief".....I would say 'get stuffed, I will walk to another club in the PSD then.' And Nathan could attempt to do that. Although he and his manager would know he'd probably struggle to pass a medical, so instead they decide to bend Craig Cameron over yet again. Foley and his manager walk away with poo eating grins slapping each other on the arse
A 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
Have a look at my last bit again. If Cameron comes to me (Foley, easily in our top 10 players) and says "hey champ, sign this. performance based chief".....I would say 'get stuffed, I will walk to another club in the PSD then.' And Nathan could attempt to do that. Although he and his manager would know he'd probably struggle to pass a medical, so instead they decide to bend Craig Cameron over yet again. Foley and his manager walk away with poo eating grins slapping each other on the arse
But was it only CC that offered foley the contract? :shh
Really,So if Foley and his Manager think he,ll struggle to pass a medical with other clubs, then don,t you think CC would have exactly the same info from our MEDICAL staff on Foley,s condition? :whistleA 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
Have a look at my last bit again. If Cameron comes to me (Foley, easily in our top 10 players) and says "hey champ, sign this. performance based chief".....I would say 'get stuffed, I will walk to another club in the PSD then.' And Nathan could attempt to do that. Although he and his manager would know he'd probably struggle to pass a medical, so instead they decide to bend Craig Cameron over yet again. Foley and his manager walk away with poo eating grins slapping each other on the arse
but thats the advantage of being the sole decision maker and answerable to no one. he can ignore, or not even get, such advice before he makes these decisions.Well i think it would be amiss of CC to not seek advice on Foley,s medical condition or any other player for that matter before deciding the best path to take contract wise.All speculation on our part though either way.
I consider nathan one of the superstars of our team.When he went down mid year we missed him,no end.If we were prepared to sit out kelvin moore and wait until he came back to see if he was up to it,then nathan deserves the same...His ability to come back from this injury does raise some questions,however in the mean time he deserves nothing but our support,something i think the club has done by giving him a 3 year dealSorry but a 3yr deal is just 12mnths too much with Foley,s history.Would have been fine with a 2yr deal.
Really,So if Foley and his Manager think he,ll struggle to pass a medical with other clubs, then don,t you think CC would have exactly the same info from our MEDICAL staff on Foley,s condition? :whistleA 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
Have a look at my last bit again. If Cameron comes to me (Foley, easily in our top 10 players) and says "hey champ, sign this. performance based chief".....I would say 'get stuffed, I will walk to another club in the PSD then.' And Nathan could attempt to do that. Although he and his manager would know he'd probably struggle to pass a medical, so instead they decide to bend Craig Cameron over yet again. Foley and his manager walk away with poo eating grins slapping each other on the arse
Not talking about if our medical staff are competent or not.Hmmmmmmmm can,t rememeber when Foley got his extention.Really,So if Foley and his Manager think he,ll struggle to pass a medical with other clubs, then don,t you think CC would have exactly the same info from our MEDICAL staff on Foley,s condition? :whistleA 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
Have a look at my last bit again. If Cameron comes to me (Foley, easily in our top 10 players) and says "hey champ, sign this. performance based chief".....I would say 'get stuffed, I will walk to another club in the PSD then.' And Nathan could attempt to do that. Although he and his manager would know he'd probably struggle to pass a medical, so instead they decide to bend Craig Cameron over yet again. Foley and his manager walk away with poo eating grins slapping each other on the arse
The same medical team that sent Richardson to retirement? And I believe Foley got his contract before he'd even been ruled out for the season. Could be wrong but that's how I remember it.
I know you are having a shot at Brad Miller CD and that's just not on, the man is a legend
Not talking about if our medical staff are competent or not.Hmmmmmmmm can,t rememeber when Foley got his extention.Really,So if Foley and his Manager think he,ll struggle to pass a medical with other clubs, then don,t you think CC would have exactly the same info from our MEDICAL staff on Foley,s condition? :whistleA 3yr deal?Should have been 2 at the most.
Agree crazy. Must be performance based.
It's not. If I were Foley I would tell them to GF if they offered me a performance based deal. Lucky for him he is dealing with morons though
Why? He should accept performance based considering his luck.
Have a look at my last bit again. If Cameron comes to me (Foley, easily in our top 10 players) and says "hey champ, sign this. performance based chief".....I would say 'get stuffed, I will walk to another club in the PSD then.' And Nathan could attempt to do that. Although he and his manager would know he'd probably struggle to pass a medical, so instead they decide to bend Craig Cameron over yet again. Foley and his manager walk away with poo eating grins slapping each other on the arse
The same medical team that sent Richardson to retirement? And I believe Foley got his contract before he'd even been ruled out for the season. Could be wrong but that's how I remember it.
Look, Foley might be end up coming back from injury and finish up playing 80 odd consecutive games before retiring and no one will remember the risky 3 year deal given to him. However, I doubt Foley will be injury free any time soon ;DWould be nice for once for Foley to be injury free for a change :santa
Foley is the impact mid we need. Dominates the centre clearances with the taggers busy minding Cotch and Lids. An injury free Foley is crucial to our finals aspirations in 2013.
running? as on solid ground? or that air thingy machine?Running on solid ground
That's positive. Hope he doesn't regress. Need his for inside midfield depth
GO FOLEY, great player, with him and Knights in...se ya Edwards!!! :clapping
GO FOLEY, great player, with him and Knights in...se ya Edwards!!! :clapping
edwards will play every game this season , foley will be lucky to play 7 games
How brilliant would it be if both Nathan and edwards had a stellar season.To me that would be the ideal outcome and certainly not beyond possibility.
GO FOLEY, great player, with him and Knights in...se ya Edwards!!! :clapping
edwards will play every game this season , foley will be lucky to play 7 games
The 7 Foley games will be better than the 22 Edwards ones..
GO FOLEY, great player, with him and Knights in...se ya Edwards!!! :clapping
edwards will play every game this season , foley will be lucky to play 7 games
The 7 Foley games will be better than the 22 Edwards ones..
Whilst Edwards ain't a favourite I have seen improvement in him. I'll admit that WAT.
Given Jako is a regular and he has played 3 more seasons than Titch I'm happy to have Jako as my whipping boy for now. ;D
Will this be NFs' last season if he has another injury damning season?
In that case, this list should step up for the bloke and make it a good one.
Best of luck to him this year.
VIDEO: Foley back running
View Nathan Foley's first running session since surgery.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-01-21/foley-back-running
Try it in IE.VIDEO: Foley back running
View Nathan Foley's first running session since surgery.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-01-21/foley-back-running
Is that meant to be a video? Can't see it
Try it in IE.VIDEO: Foley back running
View Nathan Foley's first running session since surgery.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-01-21/foley-back-running
Is that meant to be a video? Can't see it
When is he expected back playing footy?It won't be round 1 going by that video.
When is he expected back playing footy?It won't be round 1 going by that video.
When is he expected back playing footy?It won't be round 1 going by that video.
Tough ask. 9.5 weeks to go. The video might have been 2 weeks old too. Hope he's back as soon as possible
Happy for him to come in half way mark of the year.
what a joke
GO FOLEY.. :thumbsup
which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
To be a Chelsea or Manchester Cite squad/back up player. Never play, hardly sit on the bench. Get paired 90k pounds per week, and have professional sports people help you get fit during the week.
Sounds like these guys still have to get fit and stay fit. And there's probably a lot of club imposed meetings and appearences still seems like a lot of work IMO.which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
To be a Chelsea or Manchester Cite squad/back up player. Never play, hardly sit on the bench. Get paired 90k pounds per week, and have professional sports people help you get fit during the week.
which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
Writing repetitive boring list structure analysis's without regards to punctuation or grammar in your stained undies would go close
Sounds like these guys still have to get fit and stay fit. And there's probably a lot of club imposed meetings and appearences still seems like a lot of work IMO.which raises the question..whats the best do nothing job in the world?
To be a Chelsea or Manchester Cite squad/back up player. Never play, hardly sit on the bench. Get paired 90k pounds per week, and have professional sports people help you get fit during the week.
I like Bernie Ecclestone's job.
He doesn't negotiate he just demands a price if the city don't like it another city will.
Doesn't have much to do besides getting richer.
WGAF........
How is Foley going??
WGAF........Started running a few weeks back, says his achilles is feeling pretty good. Won't be ready for Round 1.
How is Foley going??
WGAF........
How is Foley going??
REad the thread and youll know
Cotchin added that Foley was back running and making steady progress.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/rioli-out-of-allstars-20130204-2duj8.html#ixzz2JwFpD871
a four-week hip injury.Here I was convinced that they told us it was a "bruised heel" all last year.
Conca needs to step up with Ellis through the middle to cover the loss. It's unrealistic to think they can make anywhere near the same impact but Conca is progressing nicely. Vlaustin should not be rushed.
From Newy:
“There’s only Nathan Foley who is still running laps, but making a lot of progression with his rehab.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-02-27/spots-up-for-grabs
Will be like a new recruit for IBS
said ghat lazy year
broken body
lucky to play 5 games
finished
Will be like a new recruit for IBS
said ghat lazy year
broken body
lucky to play 5 games
finished
said ghat lazy year
broken body
lucky to play 5 games
finished
Not sure why we'd sign him up until the end of 2015 if the club thought he was finished at the end of 2012 ?
Graig 'the helmut'That's a bit personal Coach. :lol
why do u think Cameron is gone nowsaid ghat lazy year
broken body
lucky to play 5 games
finished
Not sure why we'd sign him up until the end of 2015 if the club thought he was finished at the end of 2012 ?
Axel at training today ...
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He looks like poo to be honest
He looks like poo to be honestTell us how you really feel brah?
Has a 3 year deal brah. Ain't going nowhere
He looks like poo to be honestTell us how you really feel brah?
Has a 3 year deal brah. Ain't going nowhere
another reason why cameron was told to find another job
gee he s in good nick, wouldnt expect to see him out for too much longer :clapping
gee he s in good nick, wouldnt expect to see him out for too much longer :clapping
Your kidding right? Look at the size difference in his legs! His a long way off
He looks like poo to be honestTell us how you really feel brah?
Does being a limpgot come with posting on bigfooty? Some of you blokes are unreal.
Before I get another strike I would just like to say I am joking with this post. Me & Tigs get on well even if he is a bit gayHas a 3 year deal brah. Ain't going nowhere
another reason why cameron was told to find another job
He wasn't told to find another job but yes it was a poor decision to offer that deal.
He looks like poo to be honestTell us how you really feel brah?
Does being a limpgot come with posting on bigfooty? Some of you blokes are unreal.
Before I get another strike I would just like to say I am joking with this post. Me & Tigs get on well even if he is a bit gay
gee he s in good nick, wouldnt expect to see him out for too much longer :clapping
Your kidding right? Look at the size difference in his legs! His a long way off
He looks like poo to be honestTell us how you really feel brah?
Does being a limpgot come with posting on bigfooty? Some of you blokes are unreal.
Before I get another strike I would just like to say I am joking with this post. Me & Tigs get on well even if he is a bit gay
about time coach, about time 8)
gee he s in good nick, wouldnt expect to see him out for too much longer :clapping
Your kidding right? Look at the size difference in his legs! His a long way off
not so sure about that, I think the angle of his right peg makes it pretty hard to tell.
Axel at training today ...
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/04/09/281912.jpg) (http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/04/09/281913.jpg) (http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/04/09/281914.jpg)
Nathan Foley is inching closer to an AFL return, with the midfielder set to appear in the VFL in the next few weeks.
The 27-year-old trained with the team on Tuesday at Punt Road after increasing his workload over the last week.
McGuane said Foley, who has not played since round 10 last year because of an achilles injury, was likely to play a half in the VFL next week.
The club's medical staff is being more cautious and has pencilled in round four in the VFL as his likely return.
Either way, the rugged midfielder appears to be close to the end of a long and frustrating rehabilitation from a nasty injury.
"It's exciting for us, especially when we're talking about clearances and stuff like that," McGuane said.
"He was one of our stars before he had the achilles problem and I'm sure he'll come back and be a very good player for us.
"He's a very humble guy but a really great guy and the way he carries himself around the club … he's had so many horrible injuries.
"Hopefully this is the end of it for him and he can really come back and enjoy the rest of his career."
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-09/tigers-overcome-doubts)
even if he gets fit... who soy drop for him... NO ONE.... ALL OUR CURRENT MIDS ARE BETTER... even hackson
even if he gets fit... who soy drop for him... NO ONE.... ALL OUR CURRENT MIDS ARE BETTER... even hacksonLMAO at Hackson selling some candy against the Aints on Friday :lol :lol :lol He couldn't tie the laces for a fit Axel though.
even if he gets fit... who soy drop for him... NO ONE.... ALL OUR CURRENT MIDS ARE BETTER... even hacksonLMAO at Hackson selling some candy against the Aints on Friday :lol :lol :lol He couldn't tie the laces for a fit Axel though.
foley is easily the best small player we have and by some margin. he is also easily better than most of the mediums like grigg and hacksonwhats a small, lets say for arguments sake in todays game anyone under 6ft183cm is a small.even if he gets fit... who soy drop for him... NO ONE.... ALL OUR CURRENT MIDS ARE BETTER... even hacksonLMAO at Hackson selling some candy against the Aints on Friday :lol :lol :lol He couldn't tie the laces for a fit Axel though.
but dimma loves his big body in the guts
foley is a midget we have better midgets
Foley will play for Coburg the week after this according to Astbury.
Foley will play for Coburg the week after this according to Astbury.
Great news, 4-5 weeks at coburg and back as the final piece to a midfield that will take us to finals
Bring him back in for Round 8 vs Melbourne, imo. Get some confidence back. ;)
ken oath TB, from the moment he went down last season we lost our edge. We'll be even better this time round with Conca and Ellis maturing and Vlas a regular by that stage
Foley will play for Coburg the week after this according to Astbury.
ken oath TB, from the moment he went down last season we lost our edge. We'll be even better this time round with Conca and Ellis maturing and Vlas a regular by that stage
ok einstein
who gets dropped to let foley in
knights is better than foley and will be in the team say for jackson or grigg
so who gets dropped for vlas??? ok say knights and vlas in, jackson an grigg out grigg due to form
so who comes out for foley
edwards no way
king no way
newman doubt it
foley needs to earn his spot and prove a he can hit targets and b his body wont break down
Great points Smokey!
Everyone seems in such a hurry to get Vlaustin in to the side but he is (and should be) behind Knights and Foley at this stage. He is a quality youth but I don't elieve his consistent output could match the other two at this point. Maybe give him a game around mud year IMO. Unless we urgently need a tagged and no one else can do the job, Jackson needs to make way and on current form Newman is at risk.
When Foley is playing and in the centre square at the centre bounces, we win the centre clearance 15.7% more of the time.
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Clearances.jpg
When Foley is playing and in the centre square at the centre bounces, we win the centre clearance 15.7% more of the time.
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Clearances.jpg
But we can't squeeze him in
When Foley is playing and in the centre square at the centre bounces, we win the centre clearance 15.7% more of the time.
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Clearances.jpg
But we can't squeeze him in
When fit and firing nathan is easily in my top ten pickedAgreed!
Foley would be in any sides best 22 when fitWhen Foley is playing and in the centre square at the centre bounces, we win the centre clearance 15.7% more of the time.
http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Clearances.jpg
But we can't squeeze him in
Foley would be in my best 22.
all you guys are crazy, he's not good enough to be in our best 22. Cant get on the park and cant hit a target
Against freo perhaps if pulls up well?
Lets drop Cotchin next week
Carnell as Captain of the RFC
Carnell as Captain of the RFC
Reported
Against freo perhaps if pulls up well?
I would reckon 2 to 3 Coburg games minimum to build up match hardness, don't want a soft tissue injury by being impatient.
Sorry Bents but Carnell as Captain of Coburg will get a game simple as that
so who do we drop for Foley......NO ONE
We might have to start being inventive with our positioning if we get too many quality midfielders....
Which midfielders would provide more on field? Cotch? - yes, Lids? - yes, Martin? - yes, Conca - possibly.
Would Grigg? - debatable, Newman? - also debatable, Tuck? - lineball, Jackson - possibly, Knights - no, Ellis - no.
Ellis or Knights would move aside for him once fit imo unless we have an injury or someone strings together some poor games over the next couple of weeks.
I think they will use Foley as a sub to start to ease him in or, conversely, sub him out during the game.
Hope this sort of selection debate occurs throughout the season all over the ground :thumbsup
If we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.
If we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.:clapping
Shuey. And probably anyone Melbourne picked up with that pick WOULD have been good. Do they count? :shhIf we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.
any good mids go at #18 in recent years?
If we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.
any good mids go at #18 in recent years?
with all those happy emotes I thought it was the Thatchers dead thread for a second there lolIf we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.
any good mids go at #18 in recent years?
:lol
:clapping :gotigers :highclap :woohoo :birthday :santa :cheers
If we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.
any good mids go at #18 in recent years?
any good mids go at #18 in recent years?
If we can pick up another quality young midfielder with our first pick in this years national draft then we will have an unstoppable midfield in 2 years time.
any good mids go at #18 in recent years?
2010: 17 - Shaun Atley (North), 19 - Isaac Smith (Hawthorn), 20 - Jayden Pitt (Freo), 21 - Jed Lamb (Sydney), 27 - Kieran Harper (North)
2009: 18 - Luke Tapscott (Melb), 20 - Nat Fyfe (Freo), 21 - Ryan Bastinac (North), 26 - Travis Colyer (Essendon), 28 - Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
2008: 18 - Luke Shuey (West Coast), 20 - Tom Swift (West Coast), 21 - Hayden Ballantyne (Freo), 23 - David Zaharakis (Essendon), 25 - Jack Redden (Lions)
Bit early for 2011 and 2012 but
2011: 18 - Brad McKenzie (North), 19 - Elliot Kavanagh (Essendon) have big raps as do
2012: 18 - Brodie Grundy (Collingwood), 20 - Tim Broomhead (Collingwood), 21 - Nathan Hrovet (Bulldogs), 22 - Dean Towers (Sydney)
He had a much more defensive role last week and did a great job. I don't think he will ever be known for his defensive prowess but if he shows more defensive pressure like that then he would allay some of your concerns and become a much more rounded mid. Also, you mentioned Bastinac but I saw his game highlighted on a show during the week (can't remember which one) and he was guilty of very poor defence - wonder if that becomes his Achilles Heel also?
so who do we drop for Foley......NO ONE
Was at Coburg yesterday & Axle played well, but I watched him walk out of the ground & he was limping badly
He wasn't up to AFL standard imo. He needs at least another game at VFL level and only then if he pulls up OK from the last game. If we need to bring in another midfielder Tucky or Arnot deserves a gig.
Was at Coburg yesterday & Axle played well, but I watched him walk out of the ground & he was limping badly
When does Foley come back from injury? Could really use him.
When does Foley come back from injury? Could really use him.
When does Foley come back from injury? Could really use him.
He has been in the side for 2 weeks.....
When does Foley come back from injury? Could really use him.
He has been in the side for 2 weeks.....
Sarcasim WAT, dwaino = sarcasim in his post
Well I hope that was the case :rollin
If he can stay fit and pull out a few promising games during the rest of the year, we'd be mad not to offer him up for trade. Take what we can get.
I would say bugger all seeing we just signed him to a 3 year deal.
I would say bugger all seeing we just signed him to a 3 year deal.
Suppose the good news is that by the end of this season it will only have 2 years remaining
Could see GWS offering a 2nd rounder for him and in light of where their 2rd rounder pick will fall, you'd take that
Actually feel for Axel, he is trying hard but the latest injury obviously has affected his speed which was one of his biggest assets. Just further proves that almost 12 months out can have a massive impact when the pace of the game is constantly increasing
Yep, he'd be perfect for both those clubs. Great leader and experienced. :clapping
when you next watch the tiges have a gander at the difference in size of his calfs...Nathan needs time
When does Foley come back from injury? Could really use him.
Trade him
Yess gerks. Send him to the Dees. 1st rounder they need a mature mid. :clapping
Yess gerks. Send him to the Dees. 1st rounder they need a mature mid. :clapping
Captain-coach perhaps? :rollin
Yess gerks. Send him to the Dees. 1st rounder they need a mature mid. :clapping
Captain-coach perhaps? :rollin
Would do a good job. :clapping Though his price went up to a first rounder and a gun player. Melbourne always have a good first rounder but good luck finding a gun player. :lol
Yer I agree what am I doing? :banghead :banghead :bangheadYess gerks. Send him to the Dees. 1st rounder they need a mature mid. :clapping
Captain-coach perhaps? :rollin
Would do a good job. :clapping Though his price went up to a first rounder and a gun player. Melbourne always have a good first rounder but good luck finding a gun player. :lol
Needs more "yer"s
read em and weep username
was close to bog
Was very good today. :thumbsup
was close to bog
Fair call. Yep.Was very good today. :thumbsup
Was very very good
tv chaplin conca edwards x2 grigg houli jackson were all better than foley
u know where u can shove ur stats
na u r just all sheep and watch the games with ur eyes shut
Votes for Round 14
Foley 2 2 1 2 2 3 3 = 15
Cotchin 3 3 2 1 3 = 12
Vickery 3 2 3 2 = 10
Jackson 2 1 .5 3 1 = 7.5
Conca 1 1 1 2 = 6
S.Edwards 3 2 = 5
Deledio 3 = 3
A.Edwards 1 .5 = 1.5
Grigg .5 = 0.5
Chaplin .5 = 0.5
Morris was our best player today and thats it .. Martin tried the rest disgraceful
Morris was our best player today and thats it .. Martin tried the rest disgraceful
He did make some silly decisions early on but I thought once again his effort and will at the contest was important.
Surely Username is now becoming an "ex-foley-hater"? :lol
Strikes me as a type (like Griffiths) that will be excellence in an environment where the coach believes in the player
Was not given a game when he was fit at the expense of mcgaune, Aaron, Chaplin.
If he gets chopped I think he will can be successful elsewhere
Foley never made the side because he turned the ball over to often.
Run and spread difference from side that defeated Essendon:
White (injured)
Foley (dropped)
Conca (injured in first few minutes)
Those three do a lot of the run and carry in our team and provide with the some of our midfield rotations.
After half time yesterday we needed more run and carry and midfield rotations.
Little wonder we were so easily overrun.
agree
A fit and unrestricted Foley would be a great addition to the midfield. If he can bob up and make the opposition isdes start taking notice then it will go a long way in improving our front liners too.
A fit and unrestricted Foley would be a great addition to the midfield. If he can bob up and make the opposition isdes start taking notice then it will go a long way in improving our front liners too.
x2
A fit and unrestricted Foley would be a great addition to the midfield. If he can bob up and make the opposition isdes start taking notice then it will go a long way in improving our front liners too.
x2
You want 2 fit Foleys?
;D
HeThey will be likeanew recruits! ;D
A fit and unrestricted Foley would be a great addition to the midfield. If he can bob up and make the opposition isdes start taking notice then it will go a long way in improving our front liners too.
x2
You want 2 fit Foleys?
;D
He'll be like a new recruit! ;DI see what ya did there. :shh ;)
Miles sounds like a find going on this. Did anyone see him in action during the interclub games? Is he any chance of pushing for a spot in our 22?
;DMiles will win the Liston Trophy. Not dissimilar to Hallahan at Hawthorn IMO.
Moving on from Foley - Miles sounds like a find going on this. Did anyone see him in action during the interclub games? Is he any chance of pushing for a spot in our 22?
The competition for spots is very promising. We should have a strong VFL team too :thumbsup
Richmond vice-captain Brett Deledio says teammate Nathan Foley can reclaim his best form
Michael Warner
Herald Sun
February 12, 2014 9:00PM
“He was as filthy as you could be, as you can imagine. He’s been here as long as I have and was geed up and ready to go for the game.
2014 and people are still expecting 2008 Foley to return. How quaint.
I reckon he'll smash it this season. The opposition, not his peg
Bowden pulled that crap for most of his career under several coaches.
Kel Moore's 2008 was his best year, but still wasn't as great as made out by some and Thursield was comfortably better
I recall Jackson & Tuck both racking up the possessions in 2009 because oppositions allowed them to, as they weren't a threat. B&F results mean stuff all to me.
Never said Tambling was ever going to "reach expectations". Clearly he wasn't.
We stood up under pressure in the last quarter in at least 5 games that year - more than we have during Hardwick's entire reign.
Bowden pulled that crap for most of his career under several coaches.
Kel Moore's 2008 was his best year, but still wasn't as great as made out by some and Thursield was comfortably better
I recall Jackson & Tuck both racking up the possessions in 2009 because oppositions allowed them to, as they weren't a threat. B&F results mean stuff all to me.
Never said Tambling was ever going to "reach expectations". Clearly he wasn't.
We stood up under pressure in the last quarter in at least 5 games that year - more than we have during Hardwick's entire reign.
Jackson was playing as a tagger :lol and did it well I might add. He was rubbish for the next 3 seasons.
Can you name the 5 games? I don't really remember them that clearly. I certainly don't remember us playing finals in 2008.
Absolutely laughable to say Thursty was better than Moore that year. Moore took the best defender each week and did good jobs on the likes of Franklin & Jono Brown.
The opposition allowed Shane Tuck to rack up possessions? And here I was thinking he won mostly contested ball his entire career.
Bowden's crap got him in AA squads and won him B&Fs. I do agree that some B&F results can be dodgy but you don't finish top 5 almost every year like Bowdo did unless you can play.
Bowden pulled that crap for most of his career under several coaches.
Kel Moore's 2008 was his best year, but still wasn't as great as made out by some and Thursield was comfortably better
I recall Jackson & Tuck both racking up the possessions in 2009 because oppositions allowed them to, as they weren't a threat. B&F results mean stuff all to me.
Never said Tambling was ever going to "reach expectations". Clearly he wasn't.
We stood up under pressure in the last quarter in at least 5 games that year - more than we have during Hardwick's entire reign.
Jackson was playing as a tagger :lol and did it well I might add. He was rubbish for the next 3 seasons.
Can you name the 5 games? I don't really remember them that clearly. I certainly don't remember us playing finals in 2008.
Absolutely laughable to say Thursty was better than Moore that year. Moore took the best defender each week and did good jobs on the likes of Franklin & Jono Brown.
The opposition allowed Shane Tuck to rack up possessions? And here I was thinking he won mostly contested ball his entire career.
Bowden's crap got him in AA squads and won him B&Fs. I do agree that some B&F results can be dodgy but you don't finish top 5 almost every year like Bowdo did unless you can play.
- IIRC in 2009, Jackson & Tuck both regularly racked up 20+ possesions. Stats may well contradict this, but that is my recollection. Opposition sides knew their disposal was not damaging and often even favourable to them.
- Off the top off my head Brisbane at Docklands, Port at AAMI , Essendon second match, Carlton round one(?). thats 4. Sure there was another one or two. I'm talking about last quarter efforts, not our overall performances.
- Thursfield was last pure stopper we had and was a rock on the last line - yes he wasn't much of an attacker, but he was servicable and excelled in his primary roll. He was rarely caught out of position. Moore was descent rebounder and he had a few high-profile wins but with the ball coming in he had no idea was far too often left trailing in his opponents wake or nowhere near it. Like Rance the further from goal he played the better he was, we haven't had as reliable a mark on the flanks until Ellis came along, but I maintain my opinion that as a defender he wasn't nearly as good as many claim. .
Bowden was a quality talent, only a fool would deny, my problem with him was the amount of times he took the soft option and played unaccountable football. He didn't take the game on nearly enough , particularly from defence and would often ignore blatant options and teammtes in space or running past with a paddock in front of them and effectively kill our run, holding onto the ball, chipping it around and generally kicking every which way but forward.
My opinions were in regards to a few specific things, not an extended commentary meant to imply Wallace was a better coach than Hardwick or that we were overall a better side in 2008 than now.
Hate it when I miss what was snipped.
After Brett's teary episode on the footy show last year I won't be taking much notice of anything he says lads
Good player yes but great with words. Negative
Hate it when I miss what was snipped.Nothing worse than missing a good snipping. >:(
He doesn't have a spot to lose in the 22, he lost it last year
Why do you think Foley never got a game. People need to go back & take a look at some recent replays of what he has been doing during games.his kicking has never been good.
Houli is our best rebounding defender by mile, in fact he's one of the best in the business
Houli is our best rebounding defender by mile, in fact he's one of the best in the business
If we are to be serious here, Nathan Foley has played one very good season (2007) and one reasonably good season (2008). He has teased, been injured or just played like garbage in the rest of them. He is pushing 30. Delist at seasons end if he can't hold down a spot
Oh look it's like getting another first round draft pick...Yessssss.
farewell game?
Milestone for our players? So we're going to get smashed then..... :(
RFC life membership as well for Axel :clapping.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-06/foley-gets-life-with-the-tigers
WTF how is Raines in that list, he left Richmond and was going to play finals, it was FACTConfuscius say, he who thinks lion more likely than tiger to make final does not know his pussies!
WTF how is Raines in that list, he left Richmond and was going to play finals, it was FACTConfuscius say, he who thinks lion more likely than tiger to make final does not know his pussies!
I have been watching him every game and he has really contributed to the resurrection of the side. He wins a lot of the ball and is always in the traffic getting the ball out. Great stuff really.. :clapping
I have been watching him every game and he has really contributed to the resurrection of the side. He wins a lot of the ball and is always in the traffic getting the ball out. Great stuff really.. :clapping
And yet you miss what Edwards does. Go figure.
I have been watching him every game and he has really contributed to the resurrection of the side. He wins a lot of the ball and is always in the traffic getting the ball out. Great stuff really.. :clapping
And yet you miss what Edwards does. Go figure.
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Will win the Brownlow
First 47 year old in history to do so.
Bookmark it.
He's our Chris Judd
Foley interview ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-30/foleys-quick-fix
* I had a bit of plantar fasciitis spring up on me post-Christmas and managed it for a while. But it got to the point where we realised it was going to be too annoying throughout the year to manage and decided to go in for a quick, little operation which was just a plantar fascia release. That’s worked incredibly well, so very happy with it. The beauty of it is it’s such an easy operation and doesn’t have a great deal of recovery time involved.
* It’s gone really smoothly so far. I’m back running outside and just have to tick off a couple of things in terms of agility and high-speed running before I can join the training group but that won’t be too long. So hopefully only three weeks off playing.
* It would have been nice to even be three weeks earlier to just give me a bit more training coming into the season but it’s certainly better than having it mid-year. So we’ll get it done now and have no issues with it during the season. I’ll just look to train as hard as possible on the track, put some good form in the VFL and hopefully a senior spot opens up at some stage.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-30/foley-feeling-fine
Foley interview ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-30/foleys-quick-fix
* I had a bit of plantar fasciitis spring up on me post-Christmas and managed it for a while. But it got to the point where we realised it was going to be too annoying throughout the year to manage and decided to go in for a quick, little operation which was just a plantar fascia release. That’s worked incredibly well, so very happy with it. The beauty of it is it’s such an easy operation and doesn’t have a great deal of recovery time involved.
* It’s gone really smoothly so far. I’m back running outside and just have to tick off a couple of things in terms of agility and high-speed running before I can join the training group but that won’t be too long. So hopefully only three weeks off playing.
* It would have been nice to even be three weeks earlier to just give me a bit more training coming into the season but it’s certainly better than having it mid-year. So we’ll get it done now and have no issues with it during the season. I’ll just look to train as hard as possible on the track, put some good form in the VFL and hopefully a senior spot opens up at some stage.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-30/foley-feeling-fine
KIf its such an easy procedure then why even bother trying to manage it when you will never be able to go at 100% anyway? This is one thing Ive never understood with AFL clubs. Can understand if its a serious almost season ending surgery, but when its a 6-8 week recuperation at Christmas wtf wouldn't you just have the procedure?
Just reported on SEN that Wallace announced at this morning's training session that Nathn Foley has been elevated to the senior list and will play against the demons.
Bowden also trained well and is also set to take his place in the line up.
Foley is coming in for Tambling.
Good luck to the youngster.
The medical management of this guy is a farce. He spoke at the prematch function and said he injured his knee in the VFL the other week. He described a knee that locked. That means he has a torn meniscus (cartilage) and that doesn't get better without an arthroscopy.
So my question is why hasn't he had the surgery yet? Walking around with this just aggravates the injury.
What is going on down there?
The medical management of this guy is a farce. He spoke at the prematch function and said he injured his knee in the VFL the other week. He described a knee that locked. That means he has a torn meniscus (cartilage) and that doesn't get better without an arthroscopy.
So my question is why hasn't he had the surgery yet? Walking around with this just aggravates the injury.
What is going on down there?
Sorry but I'm going to call you out on that. Yes that could be the case but a locked knee does not always mean torn meniscus
Maybe not 100% of the time but he'll it is the vast majority.The medical management of this guy is a farce. He spoke at the prematch function and said he injured his knee in the VFL the other week. He described a knee that locked. That means he has a torn meniscus (cartilage) and that doesn't get better without an arthroscopy.
So my question is why hasn't he had the surgery yet? Walking around with this just aggravates the injury.
What is going on down there?
Sorry but I'm going to call you out on that. Yes that could be the case but a locked knee does not always mean torn meniscus
Maybe not 100% of the time but he'll it is the vast majority.The medical management of this guy is a farce. He spoke at the prematch function and said he injured his knee in the VFL the other week. He described a knee that locked. That means he has a torn meniscus (cartilage) and that doesn't get better without an arthroscopy.
So my question is why hasn't he had the surgery yet? Walking around with this just aggravates the injury.
What is going on down there?
Sorry but I'm going to call you out on that. Yes that could be the case but a locked knee does not always mean torn meniscus
Locking knee = MRI =arthroscopy if MRI positive.
Should have been done 2 weeks ago. For Foley it could mean his season.
Our club doesn't make hard decisions. If they had any balls they would have retired Newman and Foley ages ago and delisted many others but they stay on the list, take up important salary cap space whilst denying us the chance to have a couple of other players on the list.
Our club doesn't make hard decisions. If they had any balls they would have retired Newman and Foley ages ago and delisted many others but they stay on the list, take up important salary cap space whilst denying us the chance to have a couple of other players on the list.
Richmond has pushed many players out the door. That is why the club goes backwards
Our club doesn't make hard decisions. If they had any balls they would have retired Newman and Foley ages ago and delisted many others but they stay on the list, take up important salary cap space whilst denying us the chance to have a couple of other players on the list.
Richmond has pushed many players out the door. That is why the club goes backwards
dont forget ReltonOur club doesn't make hard decisions. If they had any balls they would have retired Newman and Foley ages ago and delisted many others but they stay on the list, take up important salary cap space whilst denying us the chance to have a couple of other players on the list.
Richmond has pushed many players out the door. That is why the club goes backwards
Are you serious? Who exactly have we "pushed out the door" that we shouldn't have this century? Ottens wanted to leave. Coughlan, Brown & Gaspar were all finished....so.... Matthew White maybe? I mean I thought Contin & Darrou were both unlucky....
Will be a great coach IMO. Absolute professional with training and preparation. Good bloke. Will be a great influence on some younger kids.
Good luck to him!