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Title: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on April 30, 2013, 07:31:11 PM
Before the season started, there were probably 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
So far 4 of these clubs are the top 8 with only Collingwood outside the top 5.
While I think the eagles will win their next 5 games - they can no longer be considered "locks" for the top 8.
So IMV, there are 4 finals spots up for grabs and ralistically 9 clubs chasing down those 4 available spots.
these are the clubs I reckon are in the mix along with their current H&A records.
It will be interesting to see how they finish up this year.

1. Essendon 20 points
2. Power 20 points
3. Richmond 12 points
4. Freo 12 points

5. Carlton 8 points
6. Adelaide 8 points
7. Lions 8 points
8. Kangas 4 points
9. Eagles 4 points

That 1 point loss has really hurt - a true 8 point play when you look at the above "mini ladder"

I don't reckon the Saints can make it now and the Lions are teetering.
With Lions, GWS and us in the next 5 games, Bombers will expecting to be on 8 wins at R10.
Power have an interesting 5 rounds after a soft early draw
I reckon we can win 3 of our next 5 with a good %
Blues will be expecting to win 4 of their next 5
Crunch month for the Crows coming up
In another 5 rounds, it is possible Brisbane will fall from contention and Kangas/Eagles will have needed to win at least 3 of their next 5 games to keep in touch.

It will be interesting to see how these clubs w/l ratios and % ebb and flow over the next 18 rounds. Reality is that we have made a good start and have a good show at holding our position if we hold our win/loss ratio over the next 5 weeks.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on April 30, 2013, 10:14:10 PM
In 8 weeks lions will be 2-11. No walker no crows. Power will run outta legs. Bums and purple poofs will make it so its outta us scum eagles and ninth Melbourne to take other 2 spots.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on April 30, 2013, 10:21:39 PM
In 8 weeks lions will be 2-11. No walker no crows. Power will run outta legs. Bums and purple sissys will make it so its outta us scum eagles and ninth Melbourne to take other 2 spots.

Reckon nought v poot will be a telling game. N0rf have been playing top 4 sides and the plodders have only played minnows or teams horribly put of sorts. So will be a good gauge where the teams are at. Even if ninth win but struggle doing so it will say heaps considering their draw and they won't have the double up on easy beats coming from the same spot as this time last year.

Freo aren't as much as I thought they were going to be and have already lost a game at home. Wet toast have lost two at home and will be tough for them too. 6-10 might not be the log jam we all thought it would be  :shh

But I'm generally full of poo and off the mark so  :shh :shh :shh
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 01, 2013, 06:55:34 AM
Noought will beat poort down at Docklands and poort will bounce back against us when they play at home next week
I bet nought will beat em by 10 goals too  :lol just to make it hard for us

Hawthorn
Sydney
Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Freo
Carlton
Richmond

Eagles and port hopefully unlucky to get in
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 01, 2013, 07:10:22 AM
N0rt are playing Port in Tassie BTW  ;D

I reckon Eagles & Adelaide are goneskis

And I still have huge question marks over Essendon. So far 2013 is a carbon copy of 2012, let's see where they are win/loss wise after round 15 or so

Freo are an interesting one, they have to win at home and they've alreadly lost one and scrapped in against us. They cannot afford to lose home games IMV

Dont think the Lions are a chance, they are too far back and playing crap footy

Carlton, well I am not interested in them  :rollin

For the Tiger's - I think this week will give us a fair indication of what lies ahead
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 01, 2013, 09:02:54 AM
N0rt are playing Port in Tassie BTW  ;D

I reckon Eagles & Adelaide are goneskis

And I still have huge question marks over Essendon. So far 2013 is a carbon copy of 2012, let's see where they are win/loss wise after round 15 or so

Freo are an interesting one, they have to win at home and they've alreadly lost one and scrapped in against us. They cannot afford to lose home games IMV

Dont think the Lions are a chance, they are too far back and playing crap footy

Carlton, well I am not interested in them  :rollin

For the Tiger's - I think this week will give us a fair indication of what lies ahead

Even better N000ught will pump em by 15 goals in their frenitic fast paced game, they are due for a win and Port due for a loss
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on May 04, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
Right now I can't see us making finals even though we are still 3-3. Our worse footy is substandard and team-wise non-competitive while our best cannot be sustained for more than a half. It's hard seeing us with our draw beating anyone but Melbourne before the bye. That would leave us 4-6 going into the second half of the year and in a similar position to last year trying to play catch up when 13 wins will be needed to make the finals. 
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 04, 2013, 11:55:15 PM
Right now I can't see us making finals even though we are still 3-3. Our worse footy is substandard and team-wise non-competitive while our best cannot be sustained for more than a half. It's hard seeing us with our draw beating anyone but Melbourne before the bye. That would leave us 4-6 going into the second half of the year and in a similar position to last year trying to play catch up when 13 wins will be needed to make the finals.
Agreed MT.
We are still 2 years away IMO.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiger101 on May 05, 2013, 12:20:51 AM
We can't allow teams to blow us away once the game is over like Geelong did tonight. % could be important when fighting for that last spot in the top 8.


Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 05, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
We can't allow teams to blow us away once the game is over like Geelong did tonight. % could be important when fighting for that last spot in the top 8.

Exactly another reason why last nights capitulation was so disappointing

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WA Tiger on May 05, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
Can't see us in the 8 now to be honest, if we keep playing like we are we will finish between 9th (GOD HELP US!!!) and 12th IMO.

If we keep playing like we are we actually don't deserve to be there either.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on May 05, 2013, 10:05:14 AM
On exposed form so far we're way off the pace
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on May 05, 2013, 02:25:48 PM
We look shot and if we lose to Port next week our season will be just about done and dusted.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: eliminator on May 05, 2013, 02:38:35 PM
We look shot and if we lose to Port next week our season will be just about done and dusted.

fair call. We don't look like we deserve to be playing finals footy at the moment. We need to be able to play four quarters. We need to cut down on basic errors and start playing like a team.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: bojangles17 on May 05, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
On exposed form so far we're way off the pace

how do you figure TM, how have our rivals for a 4-8 spot fared against COLL- FREO and CATS...none of them will beat them
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on May 05, 2013, 02:49:05 PM
On exposed form so far we're way off the pace

how do you figure TM, how have our rivals for a 4-8 spot fared against COLL- FREO and CATS...none of them will beat them

we are no where near being able to finish 4th and to be honest the way we are playing at the moment we are a long way from 8th. If we lose to Port next week our season will be just about gone. Seen this same movie too many times. Wasted opportunities, the rot sets in and the players give it up. Season ends. No Finals. Thats how it always pans out.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WA Tiger on May 05, 2013, 02:50:51 PM
On exposed form so far we're way off the pace

how do you figure TM, how have our rivals for a 4-8 spot fared against COLL- FREO and CATS...none of them will beat them

we are no where near being able to finish 4th and to be honest the way we are playing at the moment we are a long way from 8th. If we lose to Port next week our season will be just about gone. Seen this same movie too many times. Wasted opportunities, the rot sets in and the players give it up. Season ends. No Finals. Thats how it always pans out.

Not normally after 6 rounds though!!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 05, 2013, 03:07:36 PM
On exposed form so far we're way off the pace

how do you figure TM, how have our rivals for a 4-8 spot fared against COLL- FREO and CATS...none of them will beat them
Kangas who made finals last year instead of us.
Lost to Collingwood by 16
Lost to Geelong by 4 points (dubious free kick to Bartel to kick winner)
Lost to Sydney by 39 points
Won by 63 points v brissy
Lost to hawks by 3 points
Beat Port by 10 points.

Doing a little better than us I reckon.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on May 05, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
On exposed form so far we're way off the pace

how do you figure TM, how have our rivals for a 4-8 spot fared against COLL- FREO and CATS...none of them will beat them
Kangas who made finals last year instead of us.
Lost to Collingwood by 16
Lost to Geelong by 4 points (dubious free kick to Bartel to kick winner)
Lost to Sydney by 39 points
Won by 63 points v brissy
Lost to hawks by 3 points
Beat Port by 10 points.

Doing a little better than us I reckon.

And on the back of a 161 to 118 free kick advantage - nothing like doing what they can to counter the effects of a less than perfect draw.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on May 12, 2013, 06:16:11 AM
As an update, with Adelaide and Carlton still to play
Before the season started, 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
Eagles no longer a sure thing, which opens up 4 spots and I'd now like to nominate Collingwood as a side in trouble with inferior percentage and the Swans and Cats in the next month - they may not be in the 8 before the bye

Current status
1. Essendon 24 points 121.4%
2. Power 20 points 122.9%
3. Freo 16 points 114.9%
4. Richmond 16 points 107.9%
5. Collingwood 16 points 95%

6. Carlton 12 points 114.3%* should be 16 points after today
7. Eagles 12 points 112.6%
8. Kangas 12 points 109.5%
9. Crows 8 points 97.1%* should be 12 points after today

Bombres have an interesting month before the bye with us, blues and swans being tricky games.
Dreamtime is going to be massive.
Power also have some tricky games before their bye, we might be ahead of them on the ladder. Can see them falling from contention in the next 8-9 rounds
Freo have swans, demons and crows, win these and it's sets up their season. Damn us for losing that one
Blues will win their next 4 unless the saints can pull one out - they are an obvious danger now
West Coast on current form probably win 2 of their next 4 - we must beat them at the G
Kangas probably win their next 4
Crows will fall from contention unless the can beat kangas and win the obvious ones in the next month
I reckon we have to win 2 of our next 3 and ideally beat the Bombers too.
We win 2 games and this ladder will probably feature 4-6 clubs on 24 points at the bye.
% is going to be absolutely vital this year.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: TigerTimeII on May 12, 2013, 08:32:35 AM
Quote
West Coast on current form probably win 2 of their next 4 - we must beat them at the G

i cant seeing is beating wce in 3 weeks at the G cos we play them in perth , its a must win game  even if it over in the west
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on May 21, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
We're now 7th in the odds list to make the top 8.


TOP EIGHT MARKET MOVES AFTER ROUND EIGHT:

No quote – Hawthorn, Geelong

$1.10 – Fremantle ($1.30 after Round 5)

$1.15 – Collingwood ($1.30 last week), Sydney

$1.20 – Essendon ($1.05 after Round 6)

$1.50 – Richmond ($1.80 after Round 6)

$1.65 – West Coast ($2 after Round 5)

$1.75 – Carlton ($1.35 after Round 6)

$2.25 – Adelaide ($3.50 after Round 6)

$3.00 – North Melbourne ($4.25 after Round 3)

$4.00 – Port Adelaide ($2.25 after Round 6)

http://www.rsn.net.au/whiteyswinnersnews/tuesday
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 23, 2013, 02:04:21 PM
Hawthorn
Geelong
Fremantle
Collingwood
Sydney
Essendon
Richmond
West Coast
Carlton
N00ght

These are the 10 teams that will be most likely to make it and 2 of these have to drop off.
Most important we put everything into winning the next 2 games if we want to be any chance
Sitting 7-3  :pray going into the bye will put us in good stead then facing crows at Mcg  :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 23, 2013, 02:11:59 PM
Hawthorn
Geelong
Fremantle
Collingwood
Sydney
Essendon
Richmond
West Coast
Carlton
N00ght

These are the 10 teams that will be most likely to make it and 2 of these have to drop off.
Most important we put everything into winning the next 2 games if we want to be any chance
Sitting 7-3  :pray going into the bye will put us in good stead then facing crows at Mcg  :gotigers

How will we beat the Ducks and their umpires ?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on May 23, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
Hawthorn
Geelong
Fremantle
Collingwood
Sydney
Essendon
Richmond
West Coast
Carlton
N00ght
Crows

These are the 11 teams contesting for finals – 3 of these have to drop off.

EFA IMO
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on May 23, 2013, 03:33:38 PM
Hawthorn
Geelong
Fremantle
Collingwood
Sydney
Essendon
Richmond
West Coast
Carlton
N00ght

These are the 10 teams contesting for finals – 2 of these have to drop off.

EFA IMO

EFA IMO
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on May 23, 2013, 03:46:34 PM
Essendon
Richmond
Carlton
N00ght
Crows

These are the 5 teams contesting for credibility – 3 of these have to drop off.

EFA IMO

EFA IMO

EFA IMO
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on May 23, 2013, 05:52:35 PM

Before the season started, 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
Elfin Pies  :banghead
I'm going to leave Pies and Eagles in this mini ladder for the time being

Current status
1. Essendon 24 points 142%
2. Freo 22 points 113%
3. Power 20 points 117%
4. Richmond 20 points 112%
5. Collingwood 20 points 97%

6. Crows 16 points 124%
7. Blues 16 points 112.6%
8. Weagles  16 points 111%
9. Norf 12 points 108%

If we lose and Crows, Blues, Weagles and Pies win - which is very possible, we fall 4 spots on this makeshift ladder.
On the other hand, if we can give the Bombres a decent touch up they could fall 3 spots.
Smoke em if you got em Tiges
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on May 23, 2013, 06:01:58 PM
Thing with west coke is they've lost 3 at home, and still have Sydney and Geelong at home and the Freo reverse fixture. Will need to win all of those and beat teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn on the road. They've got Carlton again but at Etihad so that will be like a mini-final because they'll be around similar positions. It's a massive ask but if we can knock them off in two weeks it will be too far for them to come back from  :cheers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 23, 2013, 06:13:29 PM
Thing with west coke is they've lost 3 at home, and still have Sydney and Geelong at home and the Freo reverse fixture. Will need to win all of those and beat teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn on the road. They've got Carlton again but at Etihad so that will be like a mini-final because they'll be around similar positions. It's a massive ask but if we can knock them off in two weeks it will be too far for them to come back from  :cheers

Rayzor ray says no

(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/27/1226147/801585-ray-chamberlain.jpg)
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on May 23, 2013, 08:12:51 PM
Thing with west coke is they've lost 3 at home, and still have Sydney and Geelong at home and the Freo reverse fixture. Will need to win all of those and beat teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn on the road. They've got Carlton again but at Etihad so that will be like a mini-final because they'll be around similar positions. It's a massive ask but if we can knock them off in two weeks it will be too far for them to come back from  :cheers

They have a couple of big outs this week, if they stay out for another week we are a definite show down there.

I don't think the crows can make it, were always going to be 6-8 at best and with Tex going down it will hurt them in the long run. WCE was summed up perfectly by Dwaino, they are a couple of losses away from having their spirit broken and probably knowing deep down inside they will struggle to make it.

N0ught keep losing the close ones but will be in touch as the gypsies are playing well

Blues will get better and better as the year rolls on so they're in the mix.

Equation is simple win this week and win against the eagles and we're locked in. Win 1 and we're still a good show. Lose both and we're right back in the pack.

Cats
Hawks
Pies
Freo
Swans

are a lock.

Bombers
Tiges
Blues
N0ught
WCE  are going for the last 3 spots.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 23, 2013, 08:41:49 PM
Next four weeks after the bye are critical to build on any momentum.
Adelaide MCG
W Bulldogs Etihad
St.Kilda MCG
Nought Etihad

Leading into the Gold Coast match in Cairns.

Our fate may well and truly be known by July.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on May 24, 2013, 10:20:35 AM
thing with Norf! is that they have been playing well but losing – soon enough they will go through a down patch where they play poorly... then comes the knockout punch
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Stripes on May 24, 2013, 10:39:31 AM
thing with Norf! is that they have been playing well but losing – soon enough they will go through a down patch where they play poorly... then comes the knockout punch

Sounds familiar....Tigers 2012
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 24, 2013, 01:41:44 PM
stuff I hope so
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on May 25, 2013, 01:24:54 AM
Collingwood losing last night is a good result. Keeps them below us.

Next four weeks after the bye are critical to build on any momentum.
Adelaide MCG
W Bulldogs Etihad
St.Kilda MCG
Nought Etihad

Leading into the Gold Coast match in Cairns.

Our fate may well and truly be known by July.
If we are genuine finals challengers then there should be no reason we can't go through that 5-week patch post the bye at 5-0. Definitely 4-1 as a bare minimum; anything less and we'll only have ourselves to blame.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on May 25, 2013, 08:49:30 AM
St Kilda and n0rf have me worried in that both teams are capable of good footy when they turn it on (like us I guess lol). But you're right in that if we are a genuine team we have no reason not to get through those games. I guess there is still a part of me that is hugely pessimistic. Comes with being a Richmond supporter I suppose  ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on May 25, 2013, 10:48:58 AM
St Kilda and n0rf have me worried in that both teams are capable of good footy when they turn it on (like us I guess lol). But you're right in that if we are a genuine team we have no reason not to get through those games. I guess there is still a part of me that is hugely pessimistic. Comes with being a Richmond supporter I suppose  ;D

Norf are a good team. Saints though are poo. Haven't they won 2 games? 1 against GWS and 1 against an injury depleted Blues who somehow nearly over run them despite lack of rotations.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on May 26, 2013, 12:34:34 AM
Hello ninth again!   :-X

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLHG0mSCYAAv8Ig.png)

If Adelaide beats North tomorrow we'll drop to 10th with the Eagles in Perth to come next  :help.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on May 26, 2013, 12:36:49 AM
Goodbye top 8, has been swell.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2013, 12:41:46 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 26, 2013, 01:06:06 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.
The truth hurts sometimes Tucker's especially when we get too excited and our hopes raise far and above the teams capabilities.
We still come to these games and continually our hopes are shattered.

I'm starting to wonder if we all may need some kind of therapy or are we just plain algolagnists.

We truly have put up with too much poo for far too long.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on May 26, 2013, 08:53:13 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.
The truth hurts sometimes Tucker's especially when we get too excited and our hopes raise far and above the teams capabilities.
We still come to these games and continually our hopes are shattered.

I'm starting to wonder if we all may need some kind of therapy or are we just plain algolagnists.

We truly have put up with too much poo for far too long.

the answer is kids like Vlastuin and Ellis and Conca not Maric or Houli or Grigg or Knights or Chaplin or Lonergan or Stephenson. As long as the likes of Nahas and McGuane and Jackson etc etc get games in our in 22 we wont ever amount to anything and we wont play finals. I feel sorry for the boys in question, they try but they cant take us to finals.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 26, 2013, 09:10:13 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.
The truth hurts sometimes Tucker's especially when we get too excited and our hopes raise far and above the teams capabilities.
We still come to these games and continually our hopes are shattered.

I'm starting to wonder if we all may need some kind of therapy or are we just plain algolagnists.

We truly have put up with too much poo for far too long.

the answer is kids like Vlastuin and Ellis and Conca not Maric or Houli or Grigg or Knights or Chaplin or Lonergan or Stephenson. As long as the likes of Nahas and McGuane and Jackson etc etc get games in our in 22 we wont ever amount to anything and we wont play finals. I feel sorry for the boys in question, they try but they cant take us to finals.
We must improve our recruiting & development over & above what we've already done as a club.
Our own reserves team should be a big help.

Getting our second round picks right even our 3rd round also. This is where teams like Geelong are so far ahead of the game they never look like falling down the ladder.

Last night was disappointing because I feel that Essendank aren't that good and their list isn't much better than ours. We rock up to another big game and our team doesn't even show up.
You could see it in the first quarter that once again they were overawed by the big game stage. Our team has a long way to go but we've seen them play well plenty of times before and for some reason if its a big game they all go to pieces. This issue is purely mental.
You can't tell me that the bums are that far ahead of us.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on May 26, 2013, 09:24:59 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.
The truth hurts sometimes Tucker's especially when we get too excited and our hopes raise far and above the teams capabilities.
We still come to these games and continually our hopes are shattered.

I'm starting to wonder if we all may need some kind of therapy or are we just plain algolagnists.

We truly have put up with too much poo for far too long.

the answer is kids like Vlastuin and Ellis and Conca not Maric or Houli or Grigg or Knights or Chaplin or Lonergan or Stephenson. As long as the likes of Nahas and McGuane and Jackson etc etc get games in our in 22 we wont ever amount to anything and we wont play finals. I feel sorry for the boys in question, they try but they cant take us to finals.
We must improve our recruiting & development over & above what we've already done as a club.
Our own reserves team should be a big help.

Getting our second round picks right even our 3rd round also. This is where teams like Geelong are so far ahead of the game they never look like falling down the ladder.

Last night was disappointing because I feel that Essendank aren't that good and their list isn't much better than ours. We rock up to another big game and our team doesn't even show up.
You could see it in the first quarter that once again they were overawed by the big game stage. Our team has a long way to go but we've seen them play well plenty of times before and for some reason if its a big game they all go to pieces. This issue is purely mental.
You can't tell me that the bums are that far ahead of us.

Sadly they are a fair way in front of us IMHO. There 2nd tier players are much better than ours.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 26, 2013, 10:09:15 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.
The truth hurts sometimes Tucker's especially when we get too excited and our hopes raise far and above the teams capabilities.
We still come to these games and continually our hopes are shattered.

I'm starting to wonder if we all may need some kind of therapy or are we just plain algolagnists.

We truly have put up with too much poo for far too long.

the answer is kids like Vlastuin and Ellis and Conca not Maric or Houli or Grigg or Knights or Chaplin or Lonergan or Stephenson. As long as the likes of Nahas and McGuane and Jackson etc etc get games in our in 22 we wont ever amount to anything and we wont play finals. I feel sorry for the boys in question, they try but they cant take us to finals.
We must improve our recruiting & development over & above what we've already done as a club.
Our own reserves team should be a big help.

Getting our second round picks right even our 3rd round also. This is where teams like Geelong are so far ahead of the game they never look like falling down the ladder.

Last night was disappointing because I feel that Essendank aren't that good and their list isn't much better than ours. We rock up to another big game and our team doesn't even show up.
You could see it in the first quarter that once again they were overawed by the big game stage. Our team has a long way to go but we've seen them play well plenty of times before and for some reason if its a big game they all go to pieces. This issue is purely mental.
You can't tell me that the bums are that far ahead of us.

Sadly they are a fair way in front of us IMHO. There 2nd tier players are much better than ours.
Is this a recruiting issue?
We should get a better one. FJ has had his time lets get someone who knows something more than first round picks.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 26, 2013, 10:31:50 AM
We will finish 11-11 or 12-10 at best.
Not enough to make finals.
We won't beat the sides above us.
It pains me but that is the truth unfortunately.

Currently 2 and 4 with the eagles to come.
Wait one more round uncle tuck tuck
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on May 26, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
At least we're not ninth  :-\

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Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
Final 8 starting to have a familiar look to it now with West Coast and Adelaide getting in.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on May 26, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
Can't see many of them falling out except Crows, but can see Collingwood just jumping straight in. Gonna be a struggle
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on May 27, 2013, 02:57:00 AM
At least Norf are cooked.  :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on May 27, 2013, 09:55:45 AM
At least Norf are cooked.  :lol

they may be cooked but they are ahead of us in terms of real talent and depth and that will probably show up before the end of the season.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 01, 2013, 09:33:18 AM
Before the season started, 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
Still going to leave Pies and Eagles in this mini ladder for the time being.
Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Essendon 28 points 142%
2. Freo 26 points 126
3. Collingwood 24 97%*
4. Weales 20 points 123%
5. Crowbots 20 points 120%

6. Blues 20 points 112.6%
7. Power  20 points 108%
8. Richmond 20 points 107%
9. Norf 12 points 107%

Gold Coast are ahead of Roos on 16 points but with Cats, Roos, Crows and Vombres in the next month will fall away from the pack.
If they beat either Roos or Crows, it might be different.

Bombres appear safe and secure but have won something like 2 games in June since Hird has been coach and with Swans, Blues, Gold Coast and the Eagles away - will prove if there is something in this June curse.
Freo have Crows, Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 3 of these and it would be near impossible for them to miss finals. Beating Crows and Roos probably in our interest now.
Pies have beaten Lions and then have the dream run of Demons, Bulldogs and Power to gain points and lost %. Beating Power helps us but also starts ruling out another top 8 spot.
Weagles have Tigers, Saints, Bombres and Hawks. Reality is this game Monday night is a bit of a season shaper. We win and the Eagles face a real battle to even make the 8 with a number of tricky games in the run home.
Crow bots have Dockers, Tigers, Swans and GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Blues have Giants before copping Bombers, Hawks and Swans. Ideal world sees them lose those last 3 to keep our season open.
Nort have Saints, Dockers, GC and GC - this draw is why I leave them on the ladder for the time being. They must win every game in the next month if they want to win 10 of the next 13.
Power look stuffed already and with Bulldogs, Giants, Pies and Swans look vulnerable to an upset or 2 to complete the unravelling of their season.
Tigers have Eagles, Crowbots, Bulldogs and Saints. We need to win at least 3 and probably all 4 to keep open the spots Weagles and Crows currently have.

Not impossible but we have to start playing bette football - starting Monday night.
There is still hope!

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 01, 2013, 10:53:02 AM
Agree y&b that we must win 3 of the next 4 as a minimum. We then have nought at etihad which is a tough game, then the cairns game and freo at the G which all of those are tough games.
And as ive said in the past cairns is a must win as we seem to play crap after returning from the heat and get beaten last two occasions, and always play good opp... carl, nought, freo ::).
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 01, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
At least we're not ninth  :-\

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLLl_MzCYAAJBv6.jpg:large)

Good screen capture skills OE  :clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on June 01, 2013, 11:00:16 AM
I'm pretty scared about the Suns game this year. Last two years they sucked and we should have won but we sucked more. Lately they've been playing like a team that beats the sides they should and takes it up to anyone else that treats them lightly. Having never lost to us they'll be pumped and unless we bring our best footy they won't start losing to us now.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 01, 2013, 11:38:14 AM
Agree Dwaino, I actually think we will lose that regardless of whether our form picks up or not.
Your suck o meter will go from suck to blow by then  :-\
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
Agree Dwaino, I actually think we will lose that regardless of whether our form picks up or not.
Your suck o meter will go from suck to blow by then  :-\
I'm pretty scared about the Suns game this year. Last two years they sucked and we should have won but we sucked more. Lately they've been playing like a team that beats the sides they should and takes it up to anyone else that treats them lightly. Having never lost to us they'll be pumped and unless we bring our best footy they won't start losing to us now.

I think a Dyson has more power than an Electrolux.
By then the suck o meter will be at max power if we go down to the Suns again.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2013, 04:54:20 PM
Freo have Crows, Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 3 of these and it would be near impossible for them to miss finals. Beating Crows and Roos probably in our interest now.

Crow bots have Dockers, Tigers, Swans and GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Freo has beaten Adelaide which does us a favour. So if by some miracle we beat the Eagles then we'll go back into the Eight.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on June 01, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Freo have Crows, Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 3 of these and it would be near impossible for them to miss finals. Beating Crows and Roos probably in our interest now.

Crow bots have Dockers, Tigers, Swans and GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Freo has beaten Adelaide which does us a favour. So if by some miracle we beat the Eagles then we'll go back into the Eight.

Get it done Tiges  :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 01, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
Freo have Crows, Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 3 of these and it would be near impossible for them to miss finals. Beating Crows and Roos probably in our interest now.

Crow bots have Dockers, Tigers, Swans and GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Freo has beaten Adelaide which does us a favour. So if by some miracle we beat the Eagles then we'll go back into the Eight.

 :pray dare to dream
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 08:45:08 PM
Freo have Crows, Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 3 of these and it would be near impossible for them to miss finals. Beating Crows and Roos probably in our interest now.

Crow bots have Dockers, Tigers, Swans and GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Freo has beaten Adelaide which does us a favour. So if by some miracle we beat the Eagles then we'll go back into the Eight.

 :pray dare to dream

This is RFC Reality Football Club.
When reality hits its Rectum Footy Club.
Lube up boys. Reality is hitting now.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Willy on June 01, 2013, 09:47:55 PM
What happened to you Tucker? You used to be cool.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2013, 11:00:26 PM
Before the season started, 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
Still going to leave Pies and Eagles in this mini ladder for the time being.
Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.
The lock-ins now IMO are Hawks, Cats, Swans, Freo and Pies. Collingwood have 3 gimmes coming up to take them to 9-4.

I still wouldn't have Essendon as certainties. Last week was more a reflection of how pitifully we played rather than how good the Bombers are. Despite dominating the centre clearances and us giving the ball back to them 26 times in our back half, they still could only kick 13 goals. I wasn't surprised the Swannies won easy tonight over them. Essendon have got Carlton and Eagles in Perth in their next 3 games so let's see where they sit after that.

So I think the last 3 spots in the Eight are still up for grabs. It's out of Ess, Carl, WC, Adel and us. On current form and personnel we are most unlikely of those five but hopefully we get some players back after the bye and can regroup.

Hard to see North making it as they will need to win 10 of their last 13 while Port are gone as they got done by the Dogs tonight and now have lost 5 straight. 
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2013, 11:21:56 PM
I don't see Nought making the 8 but they can and will shape it.
Next 6 games for us critical.
Need as a minimum to go 4-2.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 03, 2013, 10:27:22 PM
So we got it done and hit 7th on the ladder with a bye to regroup and a draw that opens up.
Great win tonight which will silence a few doubters - in the media and on this forum.
We also picked up % which is a huge bonus. Makes up for the relatively low margin vs the Demons.

This has really put us in control of our destiny.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 03, 2013, 10:28:47 PM
One (and a bit) game off third
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 03, 2013, 10:58:47 PM
@FoxFootyAnalyst - "Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon & Richmond are all in the top-8 together for the first time since after Round 19, 2001."

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Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 03, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
Yesss dare to dream  :clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on June 03, 2013, 11:17:49 PM
Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 03, 2013, 11:23:11 PM
Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(

Coulda Shoulda Woulda we are 7th.
Lets build on that and tonight's effort. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 03, 2013, 11:29:50 PM
Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(

Coulda Shoulda Woulda we are 7th.
Lets build on that and tonight's effort. :thumbsup
Spoken like a Richmond supporter that seen this a few times before.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 03, 2013, 11:33:19 PM
Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(

Coulda Shoulda Woulda we are 7th.
Lets build on that and tonight's effort. :thumbsup
Spoken like a Richmond supporter that seen this a few times before.
You know I'm an old timer from way back Mr Tigra. Fit the typical Demographic and age of an RFC supporter in his late 30's who has seen jack skata all his life from RFC.
Can't blame me for being at times a sceptic. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on June 03, 2013, 11:42:01 PM
Will be really hard for West Coke to make it now after a 4th loss at home. If we knock off Adelaide the 8 is pretty much sorted as long we win the ones that we should and can afford to drop a few.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 03, 2013, 11:59:44 PM
Will be really hard for West Coke to make it now after a 4th loss at home. If we knock off Adelaide the 8 is pretty much sorted as long we win the ones that we should and can afford to drop a few.

Those and nought, jees I hope we beat nought   :pray
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 04, 2013, 12:03:25 AM
Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(

Coulda Shoulda Woulda we are 7th.
Lets build on that and tonight's effort. :thumbsup
Spoken like a Richmond supporter that seen this a few times before.
You know I'm an old timer from way back Mr Tigra. Fit the typical Demographic and age of an RFC supporter in his late 30's who has seen jack skata all his life from RFC.
Can't blame me for being at times a sceptic. :thumbsup
I feel ya Tucker.
But Im just old enough to remember the 1980 GF, had to stand on 2 Esky's to see it though. Those good 'ol days you could bring an Esky into the footy, when the final siren sounds we could run onto the ground & try to sprint to the centre first. Or just to slap as many players backs as you could.
And most of all, the joys of having a kick on the ground after the game.
The days when footy was a simple Saturday afternoon and Richmond was a powerhouse.

 ... I better stop I'm getting emotional.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 04, 2013, 12:23:43 AM
Round 12   Sat 15 Jun   Adelaide   MCG             
Round 13   Sat 22 Jun   Western Bulldogs   Etihad Stadium                
Round 14   Sun 30 Jun   St Kilda   MCG                
Round 15   Sat 6 Jul   North Melbourne   Etihad Stadium                
Round 16   Sat 13 Jul   Gold Coast   Cazalys Stadium

Should win all these  8)
                
             
Round 20   Sat 10 Aug   Brisbane   MCG                
Round 21   Sat 17 Aug   Carlton   MCG                
Round 22   Sun 25 Aug   GWS   Skoda Stadium                
Round 23   Sat 31 Aug   Essendon   MCG


And these  :shh


Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(

Coulda Shoulda Woulda we are 7th.
Lets build on that and tonight's effort. :thumbsup
Spoken like a Richmond supporter that seen this a few times before.
You know I'm an old timer from way back Mr Tigra. Fit the typical Demographic and age of an RFC supporter in his late 30's who has seen jack skata all his life from RFC.
Can't blame me for being at times a sceptic. :thumbsup
I feel ya Tucker.
But Im just old enough to remember the 1980 GF, had to stand on 2 Esky's to see it though. Those good 'ol days you could bring an Esky into the footy, when the final siren sounds we could run onto the ground & try to sprint to the centre first. Or just to slap as many players backs as you could.
And most of all, the joys of having a kick on the ground after the game.
The days when footy was a simple Saturday afternoon and Richmond was a powerhouse.

 ... I better stop I'm getting emotional.

Richmond Ressies @ Punt Road next year should be almost as good.

Bring a top hat.  :yep
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on June 04, 2013, 12:32:24 AM
Yesssssssss, the big bents not getting carried away over one win. Keeping a lid on it.  :lol :clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on June 04, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
Yesssssssss, the big bents not getting carried away over one win. Keeping a lid on it.  :lol :clapping

 :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 04, 2013, 01:34:25 AM

Morris. Grimes. Chaplin.
Dea. Rance. Bachelor.
Conca. Vlastuin. Ellis.
Martin. Riewoldt. SEdwards.
Deledio. Griffiths/AEdwards. Vickery.
Maric. Cotchin. Foley.
Newman. Tuck. McBean. King.
 


If we select our best side and have a good injury run are we that far away?  :pray :pray
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 04, 2013, 03:40:00 AM
@FoxFootyAnalyst - "Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon & Richmond are all in the top-8 together for the first time since after Round 19, 2001."

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL1clHICUAEKyjZ.jpg:large)
The AFL will be rubbing their hands with glee with the ladder like that. Almost guarantees plenty of big crowds in the 2nd half of the year.

Another important 8-point game coming for us in two weeks time. We owe the Crows from last year's loss.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on June 04, 2013, 08:38:31 AM
Could be top four instead of Freo  :'(

Coulda Shoulda Woulda we are 7th.
Lets build on that and tonight's effort. :thumbsup
Spoken like a Richmond supporter that seen this a few times before.
You know I'm an old timer from way back Mr Tigra. Fit the typical Demographic and age of an RFC supporter in his late 30's who has seen jack skata all his life from RFC.
Can't blame me for being at times a sceptic. :thumbsup
I feel ya Tucker.
But Im just old enough to remember the 1980 GF, had to stand on 2 Esky's to see it though. Those good 'ol days you could bring an Esky into the footy, when the final siren sounds we could run onto the ground & try to sprint to the centre first. Or just to slap as many players backs as you could.
And most of all, the joys of having a kick on the ground after the game.
The days when footy was a simple Saturday afternoon and Richmond was a powerhouse.

 ... I better stop I'm getting emotional.

I'm getting emotional listening to you!   ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: wayne on June 04, 2013, 09:58:55 AM
Eddie McRacist was making me sick last night with all his pumping up of the Tigers. Memo to Eddie, your stupid decision to sack Malthouse is backfiring and Buckley has lost control, thanks to your easy draw you'll make finals, but you're on the slide Pies!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 04, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Tigers-Eagles going in opposite directions
Paul Gough
Sportal
04/06/2013


...

The only other team currently outside the top eight that looks good enough to feature in the September action is ninth-placed Adelaide but the Tigers play the Crows at the MCG in their next assignment on June 15 and a win there will take Damien Hardwick's team to 7-4 and have them well on track for their first finals berth since 2001.

After the Crows, the Tigers fixture gets considerably easier with matches still to come against the Western Bulldogs, St Kilda, North Melbourne, Gold Coast in Cairns (admittedly a fixture the Tigers have lost the past two seasons) as well as Brisbane at the MCG and GWS in the second last round.

On last night's form the Tigers are more than capable of winning all those games which, if they also beat Adelaide in a fortnight, would give them 13 wins - enough to finally end their finals drought.

Full article here: http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/tigers-eagles-going-in-opposite-directions-238072
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2013, 02:20:06 AM
We can now forget about North making the top 8 :yep.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on June 09, 2013, 03:46:15 AM
Everything gone our way this week. Let's go Saints and finals are looking good.  :clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 09, 2013, 05:07:07 AM
we must win our next 5 straight.. lose any one game and that means really we r not worthy of finals
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on June 09, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
And that the rebuild has failed
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on June 09, 2013, 09:40:41 AM
And that the rebuild has failed

yes thats right chucky ... not enough A grade talent on our list Im afraid. Need at least 3 more A Graders. No point just making the finals. Premiership Cups is what this business is about.  :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 09, 2013, 10:39:01 AM
We can now forget about North making the top 8 :yep.

Yep. Funny what happens when you have an even draw for once. 4 and 7 and have only beat Port, WB, Stk and some other poohole club....Brisbane that's right.

Everything gone our way this week. Let's go Saints and finals are looking good.  :clapping

1) Have to beat Adelaide. 8 point game.
2) Barrack against West Coast and Adelaide for the rest of the year.
3) Keep on winning!

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 09, 2013, 11:04:52 AM
1) Have to beat Adelaide. 8 point game.
2) Barrack against West Coast and Adelaide for the rest of the year.
3) Keep on winning!
Yep we are in control of our own destiny. Beat Adelaide and go two wins clear of them with a game in hand and that's one less side we have to worry about. I don't see the Crows making it anyway.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mat073 on June 09, 2013, 11:44:03 AM
Up until yesterday I saw the Crows as our major threat.

West Coast are done and dusted.

Don't laugh but our biggest threat may come from the most unlikiest of teams...the Gold Coast .

Would rather be in our shoes in terms of making finals

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Gigantor on June 09, 2013, 12:02:32 PM
I reckon our biggest threat is us
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on June 09, 2013, 12:11:31 PM
We should be home if we win 4 of the next 5.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 09, 2013, 12:43:38 PM
Before the season started, 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
Still going to leave Pies and Eagles in this mini ladder for the time being.
Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Essendon 32 points 129%*
2. Freo 30 points 125%
3. Blues 24 120%*
4. Tigers 24 111%
5. Pies 24 points 97%**

6. Eagles 20 points 116%**
7. Crows 20 points 108%
8.  Power  20 points 107%
9. Suns 20 points 96%*
10. Norf 16 points 111%*

* Played this round already
** Play this weekend

Gold Coast are ahead of Roos with 20 points but after scaring the Cats, beating the Roos and having the Crows, Bombres, lions and tigers  in the next month become relevant - particularly if they beat us and the crows which are 8 point games.

Bombres appear safe and secure and with  Gold Coast and the Eagles away - should only have a drug conviction and the integrity of the AFL competition to impact them playing finals this year.
Freo have Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 2 of these and they look in finals.
Pies have the dream run of Demons, Bulldogs and Power to gain points and lost %. Beating Power helps us but also starts ruling out another top 8 spot.
Weagles have Saints, Bombres and Hawks and now face a real battle to even make the 8 with a number of tricky games in the run home.
Crow bots have  Tigers & GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Blues Hawks and Swans. Ideal world sees them lose those last 3 to keep our season open and the loss to the Bombres was the first of hopefully 3 straight losses
Nort have Saints, Dockers, GC and GC - this draw is why I leave them on the ladder for the time being. They must win every game in the next month if they want to win 10 of the next 13.
Power look stuffed with the loss to the Bullies but just need a few more losses to put paid to their hopes psycologically.
Tigers have Crowbots, Bulldogs and Saints. 3 of the biggest weeks of our season for a few years.

One point to those who think we are "stuffed" "not good enough" "rebuild a failure".
Having watched a fair amount of footy this year, I would say we are definitely good enough to play finals.
What isn't yet proven is if we are good enough to play several years of finals.
The Crows, Eagles and Roos have all proven that they are good enough to play finals one year before seemingly fallen straight back out again this year.
I might be proven wrong but right now could anyone defy my point that we aren't good enough to come out and beat the crows and the roos if we bring our a game?
Having said that, we are guaranteed the crows "A Game" at the G next Saturday.
It will almost be opposite circumstances to our game against the Eagles last Monday night.
It will be interesting to see how we respond.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Stripes on June 09, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
Good post yellowandblack - Adelaide and North are huge games!

We need to be careful of being flat after the bye too. Over the last couple of years teams seemed to start their first game after the break down on intensity. With Adelaide likely to begin the game in a rage after their loss we need to be careful.

Agree mat73 about Gold Coast. As the only team to have never beaten them and now them playing so well, that becomes an 8 point game for mine.

North Adelaide, WC, Carlton, Collingwood and now GC are the threats now. Collingwood will take a spot unless the sky falls.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on June 09, 2013, 05:00:17 PM
I reckon our biggest threat is us

x 2
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on June 09, 2013, 05:21:40 PM
Carn the saints!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 09, 2013, 05:36:43 PM
Interesting thread this one
The team's destiny is is its own hands, after reading the posts in here I went and jumped on the AFL ladder predictor and played around on 3 or 4 scenarios.
The one I think is most likely to happen (play well and win the ones we should win and lose the ones I think they'll lose and barring catastrophic injury)
I had:

Adelaide- win home
Bulldogs- win away
St Kilda- win home
North- loss away

Suns- loss home kinda
dockers- loss home
swans- loss away
hawks- loss away
lions -win home
carlton- win home
giants - win away
essdanks - loss away

That has us on 12 wins in 7th spot on mine, also has either carlton or west coast in 8th spot with 12 wins also
I know many have said on here 13 wins will get you in and that is most likely the case but Ive had the teams at the top only getting better as the season goes eg: geelong, hawks, sydney, freo etc, hence why I think team like north, crows, GC may drop off completely.

I dont really believe we will lose all 4 of those games in a row that Ive stated above but very hard to tell what we will actually do, win one of those and thats 13 wins.
As yellowandback said above the next few weeks will be season defining and what I did find whilst using this ladder predictor is that if we do win the next 3 games we dont fluctuate much on the ladder whilst teams around us will. Win the next 4 (difficult but not impossible) and that will really set us up for a finals berth.

I very much doubt this will happen but with 15 wins would put us in contention for top 4 however that would mean we would have to beat freo and bombers as I have them in 4th and 5th respectively. Very unlikely but "dare to dream" ;D

btw I had us either playing bombre or pies in the elimination final depending on how many they win/lose  :gotigers

Sorry for the long post, just surfing atm and reading Nought melb meltdown threads on BF  :rollin :lol :rollin
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
I reckon our biggest threat is us

x 2

X 3

And BTW reckon you need 13 wins to guarantee finals this year without relying on other teams winning/losing and % getting you in
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on June 09, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
Way too early to worry about it yet imo, footy is a funny game
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: bojangles17 on June 09, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
I reckon our biggest threat is us

I think so to to a point G, we gotta win the games that we should, to date we have , and with a full side in i expect that will continue
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Gigantor on June 09, 2013, 06:13:40 PM
Reece and ellis coming back ,and foley finally starting to find form will help our midfield no end.WE should see lids ,cotch  and dusty cutting loose a lot more now
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on June 09, 2013, 06:24:09 PM
It's just going to get better and better as we lift towards finals, good things are happening







unless we lose and miss out and then we can go back to sacking Hardwick threads
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 09, 2013, 06:52:13 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 10, 2013, 03:02:57 AM
Before the season started, 5 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Magpies, Hawks, Swans, Cats and the Eagles.
Still going to leave Pies and Eagles in this mini ladder for the time being.
Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Essendon 32 points 129%*
2. Freo 30 points 125%
3. Blues 24 120%*
4. Tigers 24 111%
5. Pies 24 points 97%**

6. Eagles 20 points 116%**
7. Crows 20 points 108%
8.  Power  20 points 107%
9. Suns 20 points 96%*
10. Norf 16 points 111%*

* Played this round already
** Play this weekend

Gold Coast are ahead of Roos with 20 points but after scaring the Cats, beating the Roos and having the Crows, Bombres, lions and tigers  in the next month become relevant - particularly if they beat us and the crows which are 8 point games.

Bombres appear safe and secure and with  Gold Coast and the Eagles away - should only have a drug conviction and the integrity of the AFL competition to impact them playing finals this year.
Freo have Lions, Roos and Cats. Win 2 of these and they look in finals.
Pies have the dream run of Demons, Bulldogs and Power to gain points and lost %. Beating Power helps us but also starts ruling out another top 8 spot.
Weagles have Saints, Bombres and Hawks and now face a real battle to even make the 8 with a number of tricky games in the run home.
Crow bots have  Tigers & GC - another key game for us. Crows lose to us and it impacts their top 8 chances significantly. They have a very tough run home.
Blues Hawks and Swans. Ideal world sees them lose those last 3 to keep our season open and the loss to the Bombres was the first of hopefully 3 straight losses
Nort have Saints, Dockers, GC and GC - this draw is why I leave them on the ladder for the time being. They must win every game in the next month if they want to win 10 of the next 13.
Power look stuffed with the loss to the Bullies but just need a few more losses to put paid to their hopes psycologically.
Tigers have Crowbots, Bulldogs and Saints. 3 of the biggest weeks of our season for a few years.

One point to those who think we are "stuffed" "not good enough" "rebuild a failure".
Having watched a fair amount of footy this year, I would say we are definitely good enough to play finals.
What isn't yet proven is if we are good enough to play several years of finals.
The Crows, Eagles and Roos have all proven that they are good enough to play finals one year before seemingly fallen straight back out again this year.
I might be proven wrong but right now could anyone defy my point that we aren't good enough to come out and beat the crows and the roos if we bring our a game?
Having said that, we are guaranteed the crows "A Game" at the G next Saturday.
It will almost be opposite circumstances to our game against the Eagles last Monday night.
It will be interesting to see how we respond.
On form so far this year it can be argued the top 8 will now stay as it is by the end of the H/A season. Eagles, Crows & North have been major disappoints this year based on what the 'experts' were predicting which has been good news for us. However, as you say Y&B, it will be interesting to see how we respond after the bye. The genuine finals sides usually step up another gear in the second half of a season and drive towards the finals while the pretenders stutter, slip up and fall away. If we are genuinely finals material then we won't have rely on other sides losing for us to make it. Our destiny is in our own hands. 
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 10, 2013, 08:39:14 AM
Way too early to worry about it yet imo, footy is a funny game

Agreed TM which is why I've tried to chunk into 4-5 week sections.
Back after the Cats loss, most posters were seeing a 4/6 split and it was clear we'd need to turn into the bye at 6/4.
We have achieved this which is a good milestone.
The next 4-5 weeks will either set up the entire season or have us trying to make up ground in the last 7 weeks.
If the Pies win today there will be 6 clubs who have just 4 points between them.
It's incredibly tight, I'm tipping that the final 8 will be still be unresolved before the final round.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 10, 2013, 06:43:15 PM
9th again! Tanks Weagles and Collingwood
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on June 10, 2013, 07:35:14 PM
And that the rebuild has failed

yes thats right chucky ... not enough A grade talent on our list Im afraid. Need at least 3 more A Graders. No point just making the finals. Premiership Cups is what this business is about.  :gotigers

Has it failed, or is it still in progress?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on June 10, 2013, 07:36:25 PM
the rebuild is actually a train line that runs through a tunnel. we just dont know what the light is at the end of the tunnel yet  :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 11, 2013, 05:09:23 AM
the rebuild is actually a train line that runs through a tunnel. we just dont know what the light is at the end of the tunnel yet  :gotigers

 :rollin

You need to get a seat next to the driver because I can see some silverware shining brightly under that light   ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 11, 2013, 09:21:31 AM
And that the rebuild has failed

yes thats right chucky ... not enough A grade talent on our list Im afraid. Need at least 3 more A Graders. No point just making the finals. Premiership Cups is what this business is about.  :gotigers

Has it failed, or is it still in progress?

I would argue its too early to call.

If we come 8th and lose the first final by ten goals. With mgune. Edwards. Jackson. Petterd.. lonergan long term gws and GC willgo ppast us.

If we come 9th yet play play gtiffiths. Deaa. Helbig. Ellis. Mcbean etc. The future is more bright.

I fear hard wick and co. Will be selfish and do what's best short term.

Towards the end of the Wallace era there was a stage when Richmond was fielding the oldest side in the AFL. How can a rebuilding side have the oldest average of players? To me it cannot.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on June 11, 2013, 11:14:01 AM
just focus on beating the crows thanks,

gg
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 11, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
Our record vs others when playing sides in the top. 8 so far


2013 Ladder sorted by Premiership Points
Position   Team   Played   Win   Loss   Draw   %Won   Points   For   Against   Percentage   Movement   Streak
1   Hawthorn Hawks   5   4   1   0   80.00%   16   616   439   140.32%   +0   Won 4
2   Geelong Cats   5   4   1   0   80.00%   16   545   479   113.78%   +0   Lost 1
3   Essendon Bombers   5   3   2   0   60.00%   12   426   443   96.16%   +2   Won 1
4   Sydney Swans   5   2   2   1   50.00%   10   472   439   107.52%   -1   Won 2
5   Fremantle Dockers   5   2   2   1   50.00%   10   422   413   102.18%   -1   Drew 1
6   Richmond Tigers   6   2   4   0   33.33%   8   517   579   89.29%   +0   Won 1
7   Collingwood Magpies   6   2   4   0   33.33%   8   512   664   77.11%   +0   Lost 1
8   Carlton Blues   4   1   3   0   25.00%   4   364   378   96.30%   +0   Lost 1
9   St Kilda Saints   5   1   4   0   20.00%   4   388   462   83.98%   +0   Lost 1
10   Port Adelaide Power   3   1   2   0   33.33%   4   243   304   79.93%   +0   Lost 2
11   Brisbane Lions   5   1   4   0   20.00%   4   369   507   72.78%   +0   Lost 2
12   North Melbourne Kangaroos   5   0   5   0   0.00%   0   471   535   88.04%   +0   Lost 5
13   West Coast Eagles   3   0   3   0   0.00%   0   243   345   70.43%   +1   Lost 3
14   Adelaide Crows   5   0   5   0   0.00%   0   352   514   68.48%   -1   Lost 5
15   Western Bulldogs   3   0   3   0   0.00%   0   231   350   66.00%   +0   Lost 3
16   Gold Coast Suns   4   0   4   0   0.00%   0   290   454   63.88%   +0   Lost 4
17   GWS Giants   6   0   6   0   0.00%   0   421   826   50.97%   +0   Lost 6
18   Melbourne Demons   6   0   6   0   0.00%   0   306   877   34.89%   +0   Lost 6
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on June 11, 2013, 09:48:41 PM
the rebuild is actually a train line that runs through a tunnel. we just dont know what the light is at the end of the tunnel yet  :gotigers

 :rollin

You need to get a seat next to the driver because I can see some silverware shining brightly under that light   ;D

Ill pay that  - good comeback line from you :clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 11, 2013, 10:06:05 PM
Our record vs others when playing sides in the top. 8 so far


2013 Ladder sorted by Premiership Points
Position   Team   Played   Win   Loss   Draw   %Won   Points   For   Against   Percentage   Movement   Streak
1   Hawthorn Hawks   5   4   1   0   80.00%   16   616   439   140.32%   +0   Won 4
2   Geelong Cats   5   4   1   0   80.00%   16   545   479   113.78%   +0   Lost 1
3   Essendon Bombers   5   3   2   0   60.00%   12   426   443   96.16%   +2   Won 1
4   Sydney Swans   5   2   2   1   50.00%   10   472   439   107.52%   -1   Won 2
5   Fremantle Dockers   5   2   2   1   50.00%   10   422   413   102.18%   -1   Drew 1
6   Richmond Tigers   6   2   4   0   33.33%   8   517   579   89.29%   +0   Won 1
7   Collingwood Magpies   6   2   4   0   33.33%   8   512   664   77.11%   +0   Lost 1
8   Carlton Blues   4   1   3   0   25.00%   4   364   378   96.30%   +0   Lost 1
9   St Kilda Saints   5   1   4   0   20.00%   4   388   462   83.98%   +0   Lost 1
10   Port Adelaide Power   3   1   2   0   33.33%   4   243   304   79.93%   +0   Lost 2
11   Brisbane Lions   5   1   4   0   20.00%   4   369   507   72.78%   +0   Lost 2
12   North Melbourne Kangaroos   5   0   5   0   0.00%   0   471   535   88.04%   +0   Lost 5
13   West Coast Eagles   3   0   3   0   0.00%   0   243   345   70.43%   +1   Lost 3
14   Adelaide Crows   5   0   5   0   0.00%   0   352   514   68.48%   -1   Lost 5
15   Western Bulldogs   3   0   3   0   0.00%   0   231   350   66.00%   +0   Lost 3
16   Gold Coast Suns   4   0   4   0   0.00%   0   290   454   63.88%   +0   Lost 4
17   GWS Giants   6   0   6   0   0.00%   0   421   826   50.97%   +0   Lost 6
18   Melbourne Demons   6   0   6   0   0.00%   0   306   877   34.89%   +0   Lost 6
Interesting that we've played top 8 sides six times already which is the equal most. So we haven't had an easy draw. Your ladder Y&B also shows we've beaten every side outside the top 8 so far so we are winning the games we should. With 5 more matches against top 8 sides out of the remaining 12 games, if we keep that trend up then we'll finish with 13 wins just beating the sides below us and any wins against top 8 sides will be a bonus on top of that.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on June 14, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
Bloody blues are in front and have looked like winners most of the night.  Will throw a spanner in the works if they get an unexpected win over the hawks
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on June 14, 2013, 10:32:29 PM
Go hawks, blues lose another one,  with a few more tough games to come, if we
 can beat the crows and take advantage of a few easier games after that we could set up our season.  Make it count tiges!







Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 14, 2013, 10:33:50 PM
Bloody blues are in front and have looked like winners most of the night.  Will throw a spanner in the works if they get an unexpected win over the hawks

Umpires screwed em
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 14, 2013, 10:37:32 PM
Bloody blues are in front and have looked like winners most of the night.  Will throw a spanner in the works if they get an unexpected win over the hawks

Umpires screwed em

Yep, it was GOLD to watch!!!!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on June 14, 2013, 10:39:31 PM
Karma to the douchebags
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 14, 2013, 10:39:47 PM
A win tomorrow followed by knocking off the Dogs and we go two games clear of the Blues as well as the Crows. A massive game to win tomorrow  :gotigers.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on June 14, 2013, 10:40:33 PM
Bloody blues are in front and have looked like winners most of the night.  Will throw a spanner in the works if they get an unexpected win over the hawks

Umpires screwed em

Nowhere near the same level that they anally skewered the Saints last week.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 14, 2013, 10:46:47 PM
A win tomorrow followed by knocking off the Dogs and we go two games clear of the Blues as well as the Crows. A massive game to win tomorrow  :gotigers.
It will be a season shaping game....the kind that we have lost in the past. Tomorrow will prove whether or not the RFC is beginning to be worthy of a finals spot.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 14, 2013, 11:04:13 PM
A win tomorrow followed by knocking off the Dogs and we go two games clear of the Blues as well as the Crows. A massive game to win tomorrow  :gotigers.
It will be a season shaping game....the kind that we have lost in the past. Tomorrow will prove whether or not the RFC is beginning to be worthy of a finals spot.
Yep, time for us to step up, deliver and rise to the expectation against a desperate but still average opponent. Time to break out of the old habit of playing (often down) to the level of our opponent. We need to come out from the first bounce and put our stamp and control on the game.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 15, 2013, 12:02:58 AM
A win tomorrow followed by knocking off the Dogs and we go two games clear of the Blues as well as the Crows. A massive game to win tomorrow  :gotigers.

this is why we may lose
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 15, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
A win tomorrow followed by knocking off the Dogs and we go two games clear of the Blues as well as the Crows. A massive game to win tomorrow  :gotigers.
It will be a season shaping game....the kind that we have lost in the past. Tomorrow will prove whether or not the RFC is beginning to be worthy of a finals spot.

I'm personally of the view that it is looking at the season in blocks of 4-5 games is a better guide.
We are going to lose games we should or might want to win and vice versa.
While I would disappointed to lose today, it isn't wrist slashing stuff.
Middle of the road teams are going to beat each other, so it's very plausible that either side can win today given they are both "mid table" quality.
Having said that, am quietly confident today.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on June 15, 2013, 12:51:30 PM
A win tomorrow followed by knocking off the Dogs and we go two games clear of the Blues as well as the Crows. A massive game to win tomorrow  :gotigers.
It will be a season shaping game....the kind that we have lost in the past. Tomorrow will prove whether or not the RFC is beginning to be worthy of a finals spot.

I'm personally of the view that it is looking at the season in blocks of 4-5 games is a better guide.
We are going to lose games we should or might want to win and vice versa.
While I would disappointed to lose today, it isn't wrist slashing stuff.
Middle of the road teams are going to beat each other, so it's very plausible that either side can win today given they are both "mid table" quality.

true yandb but just for once I'd like some breathing space and a bit of a stress free run as a supporter  ;D Give us the win today and make it easier for once, rather than a loss and right back into a dogfight
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 15, 2013, 03:06:03 PM
It would be wrist slashing stuff now if they don't carry on with the lead and win.
We have been good and need to win.
Being 2 games clear if crows and blues would be just the starting point for us....
In the words of rob Scneider.... you can do It!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on June 15, 2013, 03:09:39 PM
It would be wrist slashing stuff now if they don't carry on with the lead and win.
We have been good and need to win.
Being 2 games clear if crows and blues would be just the starting point for us....
In the words of rob Scneider.... you can do It!!!!!!!"

Cut his bloody head off!  ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Up to 6th :gotigers

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/ladder/ladder2013r12p2.jpg)
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 15, 2013, 07:54:40 PM
With some winnable games over the next few weeks we can further cement our spot and gain additional breathing space on these bottom of the 8 rivals.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mat073 on June 16, 2013, 12:53:27 AM
I smell finals....anyone else getting a whiff of September action ?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tigs2011 on June 16, 2013, 01:38:27 AM
Win the next 2 and I'm cancelling anything planned in September.  :clapping

Lose to the Dogs or Saints and I'll be looking at holiday destinations.

They were talking us up as top 4 chance after we win our next 4 at the end of tonights bummer game.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on June 16, 2013, 01:49:03 AM
I just cancelled the Rosebud Caravan Park booking for September. Diggler wouldnt be too happy I dont thinks.  ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 16, 2013, 07:37:17 PM
3 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Hawks, Swans, Cats
Tigers, Pies, Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Essendon 36 points 131%*
2. Freo 34 points 128%
3. Pies 32 points 108%*
4. Tigers 28 points 114%
5. Blues 24 points 116%*

6. Eagles 24 points 115%
7. Power 24 points 114%
8.  Crows 20 points 103%*
9. Suns 20 points 92%*
10. Norf 16 points 111%

* bye this weekend

Hawks vs Weagles
Port vs Sydney
Freo vs Nort
Tigers vs Bulldogs

Even though i prefer looking in blocks of 3-4 games it really is a Simple equation this weekend.
We win, and other results go by way of expectations and we go to 6th and actually have 2 games in hand vs Blues, Power, Eagles we have 3 games against Crows and Suns with 4 games up vs Nort.
% isn't for or against us although a big win would be a beautiful thing.
Bring it on Tigers.

I will say this. Our next month is no tougher than the Pies and right now they are playing no better than us.
If we could win our next 4 games, I'm calling that we will play finals and probably finish higher than 7th or 8th.

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on June 16, 2013, 10:02:36 PM
It would be wrist slashing stuff now if they don't carry on with the lead and win.
We have been good and need to win.
Being 2 games clear if crows and blues would be just the starting point for us....
In the words of rob Scneider.... you can do It!!!!!!!"

Cut his bloody head off!  ;D

Bite*  :shh ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 18, 2013, 04:28:33 AM
3 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Hawks, Swans, Cats
Tigers, Pies, Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Essendon 36 points 131%*
2. Freo 34 points 128%
3. Pies 32 points 108%*
4. Tigers 28 points 114%
5. Blues 24 points 116%*

6. Eagles 24 points 115%
7. Power 24 points 114%
8.  Crows 20 points 103%*
9. Suns 20 points 92%*
10. Norf 16 points 111%

* bye this weekend

Hawks vs Weagles
Port vs Sydney
Freo vs Nort
Tigers vs Bulldogs

Even though i prefer looking in blocks of 3-4 games it really is a Simple equation this weekend.
We win, and other results go by way of expectations and we go to 6th and actually have 2 games in hand vs Blues, Power, Eagles we have 3 games against Crows and Suns with 4 games up vs Nort.
% isn't for or against us although a big win would be a beautiful thing.
Bring it on Tigers.

I will say this. Our next month is no tougher than the Pies and right now they are playing no better than us.
If we could win our next 4 games, I'm calling that we will play finals and probably finish higher than 7th or 8th.
The next four games are all winnable and we'll most likely go into each one of them as favourite. Hopefully Dimma and the boys remember it was this time last year that we fell away even with the draw opening up (narrow losses to North and of course the Suns) and this motivates them to make amends this year and not take any game for granted.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 21, 2013, 01:40:52 PM
The TAB is no longer taking top 8 bets for Geelong, Hawthorn and Sydney. So the bookies have those three locked in.

For the rest ...
                        $
Fremantle      1.01
Essendon      1.04
Collingwood  1.12
Richmond      1.15
Carlton          1.85
West Coast   1.90
Adelaide        5.00
North Melb.   5.00
Gold Coast  21.00

https://www.tab.com.au/#!/vic/sports/betting/standard/AFL/AFL-Futures/2013-AFL-Premiership/Winner

You would read into that, that they think the top 7 including us are pretty much safe and it's now only a battle for 8th spot between the Blues and Eagles.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 21, 2013, 11:05:51 PM
Another good result for us with the Eagles losing. We now can go two games clear on them as well if we win tomorrow night.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 22, 2013, 11:27:09 PM
We're now up to 6th on the ladder and our percentage has jumped up to 119.4%.

Two games plus % clear of the Blues in ninth  ;D.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiger101 on June 22, 2013, 11:57:53 PM
Haven't looked at the draw but if West Coast keep playing like they did Friday night they could pip Carlton for that 8th spot.
We also need to keep winning if we want to make the finals.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 23, 2013, 12:02:57 AM
Next three weeks against teams below us on the ladder is a must to at least have a legitimate crack against some of the better sides in the last half dozen weeks of the season. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 23, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
Yep Tucky, we've just to keep winning and everything else will take care of itself  :thumbsup.

With Carlton playing the Swans on the rebound at the SCG and the Eagles playing Essendon, we could go 3 games clear of those sides outside the Eight with a win over the Saints.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: 1965 on June 23, 2013, 01:35:39 PM
Yep Tucky, we've just to keep winning and everything else will take care of itself  :thumbsup.

With Carlton playing the Swans on the rebound at the SCG and the Eagles playing Essendon, we could go 3 games clear of those sides outside the Eight with a win over the Saints.

Does that make it a 12 point game?

 :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 23, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
Yep Tucky, we've just to keep winning and everything else will take care of itself  :thumbsup.

With Carlton playing the Swans on the rebound at the SCG and the Eagles playing Essendon, we could go 3 games clear of those sides outside the Eight with a win over the Saints.

Does that make it a 12 point game?

 :lol
Hopefully it makes it a 100 point flogging of the Saints  ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on June 23, 2013, 05:51:27 PM
n0000rrffffff
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 23, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
n0000rrffffff

Freo dismantled nought like a cheap Chinese plastic toy  :o
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 23, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
What a shame!  ;D

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on June 23, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
What a shame!  ;D

First time in a long time I was barracking hard for the Shinboner Spirit.  Seems there are 2 renegade tipsters in Boogie's Pick 4 comp that need to come down a peg or 2.   :whistle

 ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on June 23, 2013, 07:01:37 PM

Im gonna stick with just the 3 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Hawks, Swans, Cats
Tigers, Pies, Bombers and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Freo 38 points 132%
2. Essendon 36 points 132%
3. Richmond 32 points 119%
4. Pies 32 points 108%
5. Power 28 points 115%

6.  Blues 24 points 116%
7.  Eagles 24 points 111%
8.  Crows 20 points 103%
9. Suns 20 points 92%
10. Norf 16 points 107%

Freo have Cats (away), Saints, Eagles and Tigers.
Might be a different challenge facing the Dockers in a month if we take advantage of our draw in the next few weeks.

Bombres have Eagles, Power, Bulldogs and Giants. Can't miss but will leave in for the next few weeks

Pies have Power(away), Blues, Crows and Suns(away). I'm just hoping that there is an upset or 2 in that month. Won't really matter as each of those sides are in the mix to varying degrees.

Power have Pies, Bombres (away), Hawks and Saints (away). Hard to see them winning more than 1 of these despite their upset win over the Swans.

Blues have Swans(away), Pies, Saints and Roos. Providing the Swans manage to beat them, that Collingwood game is going to be a monster game for Mickeys boys.

Eagles have Bombers, Crows, Dockers and Swans. Goodbye Eagles finals, expect the press conference announcing Wooshers departure after the Swans game.

Crows have Suns, Eagles, Pies and Cats. See Eagles although I'm sure Sando will be safe.

Suns have Crows, Lions, Tigers and  Pies. Not sure they will remain on this ladder in a month although they don't leave the sunshine state in the next month.  Tigers is a danger game........for us!

Norf have giants, tigers, lions (away) and  blues. Surely they can't but its a draw they would've expected to win each game.

Tigers have Saints, Roos, Suns (away) and Freo. We really should be aiming to win our next 3 games which sets up a cracker against Freo at home in a months time.

My guess is that a month from now Bombres and Freo will be locked in to the 8 and the Eagles, Crows and Suns will drop out.
I have this nagging feeling the Roos might win their next 4 which won't rule them out
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 23, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
Saturday August 17 round 21.

The cheating scum need to beat us to keep their finals hopes alive.
We win and we lock in finals.

My dream scenario is that we smash those finals hopes right out of the MCG in the first quarter.
No comebacks, no almost wins, no just abouts or what ifs.
Just a right royal thumping that will damage them for the next 3 years of the traitors reign.

It's time to inflict pain to those cheating blue scum!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 24, 2013, 02:21:52 AM
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/ladder/ladder2013r13.jpg)
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on June 24, 2013, 12:24:04 PM
 :lol GWS have a better percentage than Melbourne
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 24, 2013, 12:27:53 PM
(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/HOMERUN.jpg)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-24/suns-coasting-
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on June 27, 2013, 11:36:40 PM
With the Eagles' draw and them not able to win at home, it's hard to see them making the finals now. The only thing that will keep them in it for now is if Carlton and Port lose their next couple as well. All in all it's good news for us.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on June 28, 2013, 12:11:48 AM
12 might be enough this year.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: cub on June 28, 2013, 12:35:25 AM
being 8 -4 and then going 4 - 6  wouldn't be the greatest way to enter our first finals.
Reckon bare min we will at least split it
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 28, 2013, 07:11:44 AM
being 8 -4 and then going 4 - 6  wouldn't be the greatest way to enter our first finals.
Reckon bare min we will at least split it

 :yep would be very dissapointing to finish 4-6 from here, would mean we only limp into finals
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on June 28, 2013, 11:32:10 PM
A win on Sunday will now put us 3 games clear of those sides outside the top 8   :gotigers.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 28, 2013, 11:49:04 PM
Carleff have an easy run. Expect them to default into the 8 as port naturally slides out. WC has a tough rough home - wont make it on current form
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Jackstar on June 28, 2013, 11:56:08 PM
A win on Sunday will now put us 3 games clear of those sides outside the top 8   :gotigers.

Plus %.

A good place to be, but we may be jinxing ourselves, so lets put that famous lid on it.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on June 29, 2013, 12:32:03 AM
Stuff that. Flop it out for everyone to see.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Danog on June 29, 2013, 02:12:58 AM
I always knew you were an exhibitionist.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 29, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
i thought only on days of our lives tossers keep coming back from the dead
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 06, 2013, 03:51:06 AM
We can now go 4 games clear of the Blues with a win today  :thumbsup.

Carlton = gonski! :yep.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on July 06, 2013, 10:09:19 AM
We can now go 4 games clear of the Blues with a win today  :thumbsup.

Carlton = gonski! :yep.

Should be merged with Norf and the Dees
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 06, 2013, 04:25:56 PM
Prepare yourselves boys, we might miss finals....


.....AGAIN!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 06, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
In the words of Michael Corleone:
"Just when I thought I was out ( of the bottom 8 )... they pull me back in."
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 06, 2013, 05:21:14 PM
We may fall into the eight but any expectation of a top-four position is out of the question. All things being equal that should be an ok outcome this year. Next year we should get as many youngsters in as we can.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 06, 2013, 06:11:09 PM
Forget about this game

Next week is season defining and IMO will decide if we make the 8

After the Crows/Eagles win we will only be  2 games ahead. Lose to GC and swans and she's all even with freo/hawks to come

For me today was a reality check that RFC may just miss finals, especially if the drugos hold their spot

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 06, 2013, 06:18:34 PM
Forget about this game

Next week is season defining and IMO will decide if we make the 8

After the Crows/Eagles win we will only be  2 games ahead. Lose to GC and swans and she's all even with freo/hawks to come

For me today was a reality check that RFC may just miss finals, especially if the drugos hold their spot

What are we waiting for & what will we see?
The real Tigers or today's Tigers. Question is which one is real?

The Tigers have more multiple personalities than Julia Gillard.

Unfortunately today's Tigers were like "knitting Julia" and we know what happened when she showed up.  :rollin
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: TigerLand on July 06, 2013, 06:21:16 PM
Pathetic everything today.

Tell the players to go home and get to bed asap, because today was a waste of everyones time and breath. Get to bed early and 4am training in St.Kilda beach starts a new day.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Ruanaidh on July 06, 2013, 06:35:23 PM

Unfortunately today's Tigers were like "knitting Julia" and we know what happened when she showed up.  :rollin
:clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 08, 2013, 03:54:00 AM
The run home: round 15
By staff reporters
afl.com.au
8:14pm AEST Sunday, July 7, 2013



6. Richmond
36 points (nine wins, five losses) 116.6 per cent

The Tigers face a difficult next month as they look to play finals for the first time since 2001. Saturday's 62-point loss to North Melbourne has raised doubts about their credentials and they face three top-five sides in the next four weeks. Even this Saturday night's trip to Cairns to face Gold Coast is one that will remind fans how quickly good positions can be squandered. Round 23's clash against Essendon shapes as a tasty entrée to September, should the Tigers hold on.

The run home:
Rd 16: Gold Coast at Cazalys Stadium
Rd 17: Fremantle at the MCG
Rd 18: Sydney Swans at the SCG
Rd 19: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Rd 21: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 22: Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium
Rd 23: Essendon at the MCG

7. Collingwood
36 points (nine wins, five losses) 107.8 per cent

Seemingly back on track after a powerful 41-point win over Carlton, the Magpies still need to negotiate a challenging second-half fixture before locking in a finals appearance. They face return clashes with top sides Hawthorn, the Swans and Essendon – who belted them by an average of 49 points the first time around. Wins against Adelaide, Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney in the next three weeks would leave them in a strong position before a testing finish.

The run home:
Rd 16: Adelaide at the MCG
Rd 17: Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium
Rd 18: Greater Western Sydney at the MCG
Rd 19: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 20: Sydney Swans at ANZ Stadium
Rd 21: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 22: West Coast at the MCG
Rd 23: North Melbourne at the MCG

8. Port Adelaide
32 points (eight wins, six losses) 113.7 per cent

The Power had been comfortable in the eight on the back of huge wins against the Sydney Swans and Collingwood, but the competition is closing after Sunday's loss to Essendon. Their ability to sustain their defensive intensity for the rest of the season will determine whether they play finals football or miss out. With at least three should-win games (against the Saints, Lions and Suns) and three more on home turf, destiny remains in the Power's hands.

The run home:
Rd 16: Hawthorn at AAMI Stadium
Rd 17: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Brisbane Lions at AAMI Stadium
Rd 19: Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 20: Geelong at Simonds Stadium
Rd 21: Gold Coast at AAMI Stadium
Rd 22: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 23: Carlton at AAMI Stadium

-------------------------------------------------

9. West Coast
28 points (seven wins, seven losses) 109.9 per cent

The Eagles squared their season and revived their finals hopes with a last-gasp win against Adelaide, which leaves them just one game outside the eight. West Coast has to bank three wins against the Bulldogs, Gold Coast and Adelaide, but the other five matches will be very tough. Five matches at home does not look as appealing as it would have in previous years given the Eagles have lost five of seven at Patersons this season.
 
The run home:
Rd 16: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 17: Sydney Swans at Patersons Stadium
Rd 18: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 19: Gold Coast at Patersons Stadium
Rd 20: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Geelong at Patersons Stadium
Rd 22: Collingwood at the MCG
Rd 23: Adelaide at Patersons Stadium

10. North Melbourne
24 points (six wins, eight losses) 118.6 per cent

North Melbourne will need a run home similar to that of 2012 to play finals. Last year the Roos flew home 10-2 to make the finals for the first time since 2008 and a big win over Richmond was a step in the right direction. Their cause is not helped, however, by a draw that includes clashes with the current top three teams, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon. With Collingwood looming in in round 23, the Roos need a miracle.

The run home:
Rd 16: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 17: Carlton at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 19: Geelong at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 21: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Hawthorn at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Collingwood at the MCG

11. Carlton
24 points (six wins, eight losses) 109.2 per cent

The Blues have lost four games on the trot to find themselves two games outside the eight and in a logjam with West Coast, North Melbourne and Adelaide. Of that group, Carlton has perhaps the easiest run home, but the 41-point loss to Collingwood was a significant setback that could leave them too far adrift.

The run home:
Rd 16: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 17: North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium
Rd 19: Fremantle at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Richmond at the MCG
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium

12. Adelaide
24 points (six wins, eight losses) 104.9 per cent

The Crows' loss to West Coast all but snuffed out their slim finals hopes, with a tough run looming and six or seven wins required from eight games. Preliminary finalists last year, they are still a way off the level they set last year and with games against two premiership contenders and two Western Australian road trips, finals football is just about out of reach.

The run home:
Rd 16: Collingwood at the MCG
Rd 17: Geelong at AAMI Stadium
Rd 18: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 19: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 20: North Melbourne at AAMI Stadium
Rd 21: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Melbourne at AAMI Stadium
Rd 23: West Coast at Patersons Stadium

13. Gold Coast
20 points (five wins, nine losses) 89.3 per cent

Back-to-back losses have left the Suns with a mountain to climb, needing to win seven or maybe eight of their final eight matches to play finals. They have the easiest draw of any team in the competition, and with a friendly final month in particular, could have their season determined in the next fortnight. This week's clash against Richmond in Cairns is a must-win.

The run home:
Rd 16: Richmond at Cazalys Stadium
Rd 17: Collingwood at Metricon Stadium
Rd 18: Carlton at Metricon Stadium
Rd 19: West Coast at Patersons Stadium
Rd 20: Melbourne at Metricon Stadium
Rd 21: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 22: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Greater Western Sydney at Metricon Stadium

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-07/the-run-home-round-15
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2013, 05:41:11 PM
We look at your club's run home with just eight weeks to go and who will reach the top eight

    By Ben Higgins
    From: Herald Sun
    July 09, 2013 3:00PM


RICHMOND

Currently: 6th (9-5)

Run home: Gold Coast (H), Fremantle (H), Sydney (A), Hawthorn (A), Brisbane Lions (H), Carlton (H), GWS Giants (A), Essendon (A)

Story so far: Richmond have been trying to keep a lid on expectations all season - for the past three years, in all honesty - and finally seem to be set for September action. Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and Jack Riewoldt continue to deliver but it is the likes of Shane Edwards, Brandon Ellis and Tyrone Vickery have taken the club to another level. The only knock on the Tigers is they've failed to beat a team above them on the ladder and will need one big scalp to stamp their ticket to the finals.

We say: The first test comes this week against Gold Coast in Cairns. The "home game" has been a stumbling point for two years now. It doesn't get any easier from there with Fremantle, Sydney and Hawthorn waiting in consecutive weeks. A final round clash against Essendon will be crucial.

Predicted finish: 7th (14-8)

-------------------------------------------------

Predicted ladder

1. Hawthorn       19-3
2. Geelong         19-3
3. Essendon       18-4
4. Sydney          17-4-1
5. Fremantle      17-4-1
6. Collingwood   14-8
7. Richmond      14-8
8. Port Adelaide 12-10
----------------------------
9. West Coast    11-11
10. Carlton         9-13
11. Adelaide       9-13
12. North Melb.   9-13

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/we-look-at-your-clubs-run-home-with-just-eight-weeks-to-go-and-who-will-reach-the-top-eight/story-fnelctok-1226676549744

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 10, 2013, 08:21:46 PM
When your a 6th on the table there are not that many above you and bar Nort all teams that have beaten us have been in the 8.
We can only beat Gold Coast this week. If they happen to be 13th whose fault is that?
We've beaten Port and they're in the 8 and they were above us on the ladder when we beat them.
Same with West Coast, we replaced them in the 8 when we beat them. We were also expected not to beat Carlton either in Round 1 either given their off field appointments.
Barring last weeks game we have done well overall I think. :thumbsup
Some people just want to bring out chestnut after chestnut after chestnut. :help
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2013, 12:27:49 AM
Win on the weekend and we'll be back on track and everyone will write off the North loss as just one bad game. It wouldn't surprise me either if North lose this week up in Brisbane and we can forget about them again.  It's if we lose this week that the media will go to town on us with the "same old Richmond" talk and saying we'll end up 9-9 after round 19. Genuine finals contenders make their run in the second half of the season and respond strongly to a poor day. So we'll find out this week what we are made of.

As for everyone else vying for the finals below us - we can only control what we do. Being in control of your own destiny as we are is obviously far better than being outside of the Eight and relying other teams above you having to lose. Win the games we should and the North game will be quickly forgotten. 
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 11, 2013, 07:00:09 AM
As for everyone else vying for the finals below us - we can only control what we do. Being in control of your own destiny as we are is obviously far better than being outside of the Eight and relying other teams above you having to lose. Win the games we should and the North game will be quickly forgotten.

Exactly.

What we need to do is simple, keep winning

Simple really  ;D

Seriously, no point in worrying about what's going on around us, what other sides are doing. Making the eight is up to the RFC no one else
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on July 11, 2013, 02:02:08 PM
Had us finishing in 7th with only 12 wins

but one of those wins was this week  :shh
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
Adelaide gonski after last night while Port is now vulnerable at 8-7 in 8th spot. Let's hope today we don't join them by meekly losing to the Suns again  :scream.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WA Tiger on July 13, 2013, 04:36:49 PM
Adelaide gonski after last night while Port is now vulnerable at 8-7 in 8th spot. Let's hope today we don't join them by meekly losing to the Suns again  :scream.

x 2..Port getting done by the Hawks, we must win this game.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2013, 10:30:07 PM
Lions have knocked off North  :lol. So we're 4 games clear of both the Roos and Brisbane.

Carlton beat St Kilda - nothing for them to brag about but they are only a game out with Port losing. We're still 3 games clear of them which is the main thing.

North vs Carlton next week so one of them has to lose  ;D.

 

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 13, 2013, 10:36:01 PM
Lions have knocked off North  :lol. So we're 4 games clear of both the Roos and Brisbane.

Carlton beat St Kilda - nothing for them to brag about but they are only a game out with Port losing. We're still 3 games clear of them which is the main thing.

North vs Carlton next week so one of them has to lose  ;D.

Hopefully Nought win they both stay on 7 wins and they both fall further getting into the 8.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Siberian on July 13, 2013, 11:25:02 PM
West coast or freo?
aiming high or low?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2013, 11:52:47 PM
West coast or freo?
aiming high or low?
Our form will have to improve big time if we are to aim high. We won't get away with playing 2 and a bit quarters and dishing up crap for the remainder over the next 3 weeks. 

Next week we can look forward to Ross Lyon boring everyone to death by turning the game into his rugby style high stoppage minimal goals garbage.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Andyy on July 14, 2013, 02:22:17 AM
Freo's defensive structure at the smaller MCG (compared to Patterson's). Sounds like a flood coming. Beware the sling-shot footy ala North Melbourne...
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on July 14, 2013, 07:11:56 AM
Im gonna stick with just the 3 "locks" for the Top 8:-
Hawks, Swans, Cats
Tigers, Pies and Freo becoming "locks" for the 8 in the next month.

Current status
1. Freo 42 points 132%*
2. Essendon 44 points 130%
3. Richmond 40 points 116%
4. Pies 40 points 110%
5. Power 32 points 109%

6.  Blues 28 points 111%
7.  Eagles 28 points 110%*
8. Norf 24 points 116%
9. Crows 24 points 102%

Still to play.

Pies Run Home
Rd 17: Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium
Rd 18: Greater Western Sydney at the MCG
Rd 19: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 20: Sydney Swans at ANZ Stadium
Rd 21: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 22: West Coast at the MCG
Rd 23: North Melbourne at the MCG

Power Run Home
Rd 17: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Brisbane Lions at AAMI Stadium
Rd 19: Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 20: Geelong at Simonds Stadium
Rd 21: Gold Coast at AAMI Stadium
Rd 22: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 23: Carlton at AAMI Stadium

Blues Run Home
Rd 17: North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium
Rd 19: Fremantle at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Richmond at the MCG
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at AAMI

Weagles Run Home
Rd 17: Sydney Swans at Patersons Stadium
Rd 18: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 19: Gold Coast at Patersons Stadium
Rd 20: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Geelong at Patersons Stadium
Rd 22: Collingwood at the MCG
Rd 23: Adelaide at Patersons Stadium

Norfs Run Home
Rd 17: Carlton at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 19: Geelong at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 21: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Hawthorn at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Collingwood at the MCG

Crowbots Run Home
Rd 17: Geelong at AAMI Stadium
Rd 18: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 19: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 20: North Melbourne at AAMI Stadium
Rd 21: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Melbourne at AAMI Stadium
Rd 23: West Coast at Patersons Stadium

Tigers Run Home
Rd 17: Fremantle at the MCG
Rd 18: Sydney Swans at the SCG
Rd 19: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Rd 21: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 22: Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium
Rd 23: Essendon at the MCG

We clearly have the toughest draw playing 4 sides above us compared to everyone else playing 2 or 3 sides above us.
We might appear to look wobbly with a month to go but reality is playing 3 of the top 4 in the next 3 weeks is a tough ask to win any of them.
Remember our expectations of the side.
We are a good show to beat Carlton (on their current form but us improving somewhat), Brisbane and GWS with the Bombers in round 23 playing for no points  ;D
If we can win 1 of our next 3, the lid will be off for me. I'm booking final tickets  ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2013, 10:40:35 AM
Fockers beat Wet Toast today and we are 3 games plus percentage clear of every team outside of the 8.  Going to be very very hard to miss finals if that happens.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on July 14, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
Fockers beat Wet Toast today and we are 3 games plus percentage clear of every team outside of the 8.  Going to be very very hard to miss finals if that happens.

If anyone could find a way to do it we could
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2013, 11:17:15 AM
Fockers beat Wet Toast today and we are 3 games plus percentage clear of every team outside of the 8.  Going to be very very hard to miss finals if that happens.

If anyone could find a way to do it we could

 :lol         :'(         :help
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 14, 2013, 12:30:43 PM
I want Freo to lose so we can beat them next week and pass them on the ladder
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on July 14, 2013, 02:23:50 PM
I think we are a chance against Freo but prefer they win today to put the eagles out of business completely.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 14, 2013, 02:43:11 PM
I want Freo to lose so we can beat them next week and pass them on the ladder
I agree with you Mrakov.
Top 4 is the only way to win the flag.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 14, 2013, 06:08:00 PM
Essen Don will be stripped off points for cheating. Top 4 within reach
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 14, 2013, 10:04:01 PM
Freo won the WA derby so that sends us 3 games clear of those sides outside the Top 8.

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Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2013, 01:32:17 PM
The run home: round 16

By staff reporters
afl.com.au
8:42pm AEST Sunday, July 14, 2013



4. Sydney Swans
46 points (11 wins, three losses, one draw) 142.2 per cent

The premiers remain right in the hunt for the top four after thrashing Greater Western Sydney for their third consecutive win. But the Swans face a tough run home that mirrors their run into the finals last year, with West Coast at Patersons Stadium their next assignment and three of their final four games coming against Collingwood, Geelong and Hawthorn.

The run home:
Rd 17: West Coast at Patersons Stadium
Rd 18: Richmond at the SCG
Rd 19: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Collingwood at ANZ Stadium
Rd 21: St Kilda at the SCG
Rd 22: Geelong at Simonds Stadium
Rd 23: Hawthorn at ANZ Stadium

5. Fremantle
46 points (11 wins, three losses, one draw) 126.3 per cent

The Dockers remain on track to challenge for a top-two finish after their hard-earned Derby win over West Coast. The only contests that appear to present issues are those against Richmond at the MCG and Carlton at Etihad Stadium a fortnight later in round 19. They face St Kilda again and have easy-looking outings against Greater Western Sydney and Melbourne.

The run home:
Rd 17: Richmond at the MCG
Rd 18: Adelaide at Patersons Stadium
Rd 19: Carlton at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Greater Western Sydney at Patersons Stadium
Rd 21: Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 22: Port Adelaide at Patersons Stadium
Rd 23: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium

6. Richmond
40 points (10 wins, five losses) 116.7 per cent

After finally notching their maiden win against Gold Coast – and their first win at Cairns' Cazaly's Stadium – the Tigers will almost certainly play finals for the first time since 2001. A push for a top-four spot seems unlikely given Richmond faces Fremantle, the Sydney Swans and Hawthorn in the next three rounds and Essendon in the final round, but such a tough draw should prepare the Tigers for the intensity of finals football.

The run home:
Rd 17: Fremantle at the MCG
Rd 18: Sydney Swans at the SCG
Rd 19: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Rd 21: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 22: Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium
Rd 23: Essendon at the MCG

7. Collingwood
40 points (10 wins, five losses) 109.4 per cent

Back on track after impressive wins against Carlton and Adelaide, the Magpies will all but book a finals berth if they beat Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney in the next two weeks. Their run home becomes drastically harder after that with return clashes against top sides Hawthorn, the Swans and Essendon, the trio having belted the Pies by an average of 49 points earlier this season.

The run home:
Rd 17: Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium
Rd 18: Greater Western Sydney at the MCG
Rd 19: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 20: Sydney Swans at ANZ Stadium
Rd 21: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 22: West Coast at the MCG
Rd 23: North Melbourne at the MCG

8. Port Adelaide
32 points (eight wins, seven losses) 108.9 per cent

With Carlton and West Coast breathing down their neck, the Power is probably the only team in the top eight that can realistically miss the finals. But Port's draw is relatively kind, with just two of their final seven games coming against fellow top-eight teams – Geelong (round 20) and Fremantle (round 22). Four of those remaining games are on their home turf.

The run home:
Rd 17: St Kilda at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Brisbane Lions at AAMI Stadium
Rd 19: Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 20: Geelong at Simonds Stadium
Rd 21: Gold Coast at AAMI Stadium
Rd 22: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 23: Carlton at AAMI Stadium

-------------------------------------------------

9. Carlton
28 points (seven wins, eight losses) 111.4 per cent

The Blues broke a four-game losing streak with their win over St Kilda to put themselves just one game outside the eight. They face an 'eight-point' game against North Melbourne next round when a win would effectively end the Roos' season. If the Power falter in the run home, the Blues' draw should give them an edge over West Coast, while they are effectively two games ahead of the Brisbane Lions given their far superior percentage.

The run home:
Rd 17: North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium
Rd 19: Fremantle at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Richmond at the MCG
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium

10. West Coast
28 points (seven wins, eight losses) 107.1 per cent

The Eagles remain just one game outside the eight despite their Derby loss to Fremantle. West Coast has to bank three wins against the Bulldogs, Gold Coast and Adelaide, but the other four matches will be very tough. Four matches at home does not look as appealing as it would have in previous years given the Eagles have lost six of eight at Patersons this season.
 
The run home:
Rd 17: Sydney Swans at Patersons Stadium
Rd 18: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 19: Gold Coast at Patersons Stadium
Rd 20: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 21: Geelong at Patersons Stadium
Rd 22: Collingwood at the MCG
Rd 23: Adelaide at Patersons Stadium

11. North Melbourne
24 points (six wins, nine losses) 116.1 per cent

North Melbourne's finals chances appear shot after yet another fadeout loss against the Brisbane Lions. With a draw that includes clashes with the current top three teams, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon, along with Collingwood in round 23, the Roos need a miracle.

The run home:
Rd 17: Carlton at Etihad Stadium
Rd 18: Melbourne at Etihad Stadium
Rd 19: Geelong at Etihad Stadium
Rd 20: Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 21: Essendon at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Hawthorn at Etihad Stadium
Rd 23: Collingwood at the MCG

12. Adelaide
24 points (six wins, nine losses) 102.5 per cent

The Crows' losses to West Coast and Collingwood all but snuffed out their slim finals hopes, with a tough run looming and at least six wins required from seven games. Preliminary finalists last year, they are still a way off the level they set last year and with games against two premiership contenders and two Western Australian road trips to come, finals football is practically out of reach.

The run home:
Rd 17: Geelong at AAMI Stadium
Rd 18: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 19: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 20: North Melbourne at AAMI Stadium
Rd 21: Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium
Rd 22: Melbourne at AAMI Stadium
Rd 23: West Coast at Patersons Stadium

13. Brisbane Lions
24 points (six wins, nine losses) 80.3 per cent

The Lions' comeback win over North Melbourne kept their finals hopes alive but they remain extreme long shots. The Lions have the easiest draw of the teams trying to force their way into the top eight, with winnable games against Melbourne at the MCG, and St Kilda, GWS and the Western Bulldogs at home. However, their poor percentage means the Lions probably can't afford to drop another game.

The run home:
Rd 17: Melbourne at TIO Stadium
Rd 18: Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Rd 19: St Kilda at the Gabba
Rd 20: Richmond at the MCG
Rd 21: Greater Western Sydney at the Gabba
Rd 22: Western Bulldogs at the Gabba
Rd 23: Geelong at Simonds Stadium

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-14/the-run-home
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Stripes on July 15, 2013, 05:34:03 PM
Brisbane could come from behind and make the finals with that draw.  :o

Suspect the eight will remain unchanged but Carlton is the smokey.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 17, 2013, 03:03:01 AM
Finals wannabes left to fight among themselves

    Rohan Connolly
    The Age
    July 17, 2013


As we move into the last third of the season, the AFL ladder can be roughly divided into three groups of clubs, each with vastly different aspirations over the final seven rounds.

At the top end, there's seven who are either already pencilling in their plans for a flag assault, or at least starting to think about how they will handle September, notwithstanding an unforeseen catastrophe, or in Essendon's case, administrative intervention.

At the bottom, there's five for whom 2014 has become the priority. St Kilda, for example, is one of several clubs starting to look at remedying a list riddled with holes, Melbourne is pursuing a top-quality coach, and Greater Western Sydney, given continued poor performance and crowds, is thinking bigger picture than that.

And for the other half-dozen in the middle group, it's about a virtual lightning premiership, the spoils the one spot in the final eight that appears left up for grabs.

...

Richmond, in contrast, one of the Blues' opponents in the race to September, has built a nice little buffer for itself. I've got the Tigers winning potentially only two of their final seven games and still reaching a first September campaign for a dozen years.


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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/finals-wannabes-left-to-fight-among-themselves-20130716-2q2dj.html
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Darth Tiger on July 17, 2013, 11:37:31 AM
Interesting from Rohan - does he tip Essendrug to win the rest of their 7 games ? Geez he is optimistic on Carlton's chances to win 4 games.

Percentage will be an important factor for Richmond's finishing position, so must remain very competitive against the top 4 clubs over the next 3 games.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mat073 on July 17, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
So important to win this weekend.

The stars and moon have aligned with key outs for the dockers...I can't believe how lucky we are.


Here is finals served on a silver platter if we are good enough


This is it...this will be the most important match Richmond has played in a decade.

win on Sunday and we can afford to drop a 50/50 game later in the year.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 17, 2013, 12:26:08 PM
Lol Rohan tips us to lose to both Carlton (why?) and Essondon (his team).

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 17, 2013, 02:36:32 PM
Lol Rohan tips us to lose to both Carlton (why?) and Essondon (his team).
Probably because our history of winning games to ensure a finals berth isn't great.

But boy I hope he's wrong. Love nothing more than slamming those cheats right of finals contention.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 17, 2013, 03:27:17 PM
If that's his professional opinion, that's fine. But I can't see a team finish on 7th with 12 wins. Maybe 13 but not 12.
What I find interesting is the teams Rihanna has Carlton beating....
Gold coast, bulldogs, rich and port in aami.
GC they should beat, dogs they will beat. Rich is a 50/50 and port at aami. Who are also vying for the 8 and who have beaten Collingwood and Sydney at aami. They were also able to come from behind and beat Eagles who are another team competing against blues and port.
I think Rohan's picked up salmonella from the pizza crusts under Robbo's couch
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiga on July 17, 2013, 03:45:57 PM
Bloody hell look at the Dockers run home.  :o We won't be passing them anytime soon. Us and Port are the only ones who will challenge them. And I can't see the Swans faltering either so top 4 for us is highly unlikely unless we win all our remaining games.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tony_montana on July 17, 2013, 04:33:56 PM
should win 4 or 5 of our remaining games. 5th looking a distinct possibility
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiga on July 17, 2013, 04:57:18 PM
should win 4 or 5 of our remaining games. 5th looking a distinct possibility

Who do you see dropping Tony for us to get into 5th? The Bombers?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 20, 2013, 04:20:39 AM
Carlton beating North (contrary to most of the pundits' predictions) and moving up into the Eight should be a reminder that we can't rely on other teams and results doing us any favours. We need to win beginning tomorrow and control our own destiny.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 20, 2013, 10:14:46 AM
Carlton beating North (contrary to most of the pundits' predictions) and moving up into the Eight should be a reminder that we can't rely on other teams and results doing us any favours. We need to win beginning tomorrow and control our own destiny.
Yes.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 20, 2013, 10:22:06 AM
Carlton beating North (contrary to most of the pundits' predictions) and moving up into the Eight should be a reminder that we can't rely on other teams and results doing us any favours. We need to win beginning tomorrow and control our own destiny.
Yes.   :thumbsup

X2 :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: yellowandback on July 20, 2013, 07:13:00 PM
Handy time for G Ablett to have a 50 possie game  ;D
Might have to throw some shrapnel his way to say thanks  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 20, 2013, 07:14:21 PM
Gold coast just beat collingwood, so important we beat freo tomorrow and forge towards 5th spot,.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 20, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
EFC lose points

Suns win

If we beat frro we are half a game our of the four - double chance  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 20, 2013, 08:13:16 PM
Port flogging the Saints already so the Blues will drop back outside the Eight  ;D.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Stripes on July 20, 2013, 09:31:21 PM
Just another reminder to expect the unexpected at this time of the year  :pray
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on July 21, 2013, 07:30:50 PM
Glad we got one of these 3 games (Freo, Sydney, Hawks). Without getting ahead of ourselves, banking only Lions and GWS gives us 13. Anything else (Carlton maybe, Essendon would be great) and 14-15 wins and would be well ahead of anyone's expectations of this season. Good stuff  :cheers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2013, 07:40:41 PM
The ladder after Round 17 .......... with a certain team removed  ;D

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https://twitter.com/search?q=afl%20ladder&src=typd
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on July 21, 2013, 07:56:01 PM
We should be safe now but I won't tick it off until we get to 13 wins. So at least two more to go.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 21, 2013, 09:14:16 PM
1 down and 2 to go

13 wins and we are in

12 wins you're still likely relying others, 13 means you've got their on your own
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 21, 2013, 09:38:07 PM
Agreed.
Till we get to 13 I'm admitting to nothing, but keep it up Tigers. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2013, 10:11:44 PM
The run home: round 17

By staff reporters
afl.com.au
9:05pm AEST Sunday, July 21, 2013



6. Richmond
44 points (11 wins, five losses) 118 per cent

The Tigers will almost certainly play finals for the first time since 2001. A push for a top-four spot seems unlikely given they face the Sydney Swans and Hawthorn in the next fortnight and Essendon in the final round, but such a tough draw should prepare the Tigers for the intensity of finals football.

The run home:
Rd 18: Sydney Swans at the SCG
Rd 19: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Rd 21: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 22: Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium
Rd 23: Essendon at the MCG

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-21/the-run-home
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 21, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
Home final or GTFO
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 21, 2013, 10:37:43 PM
 :lol

Before today I said 3-5 wins.
I think another 2 most likely while 3 wins from those remaining still possible. Win more than 14 games and I wouldnt have expected it and be blown away  :bow

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on July 21, 2013, 11:49:37 PM
If we don't beat Sydney I'm going upper decker on the entire Members stand
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 22, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
We're virtually certainties to the make the Eight now according to the bookies ...


Richmond Tigers to make top eight in AFL 2013 season
Written by: Morgan Payne+
Sports News
22/7/2013 at 5:33pm


Odds to make the Top 8
(Prices in brackets from Friday 19th July)

$1.01 Richmond (in from $1.06)
$1.14 Collingwood (out from $1.02)
$1.90 Carlton (out from $1.70)
$2.00 Port Adelaide (out from $1.62)
$6.00 West Coast (out from $1.77)
$8.00 Adelaide Crows (out from $7.50)
$15 North Melbourne (out from $4.50)
$17 Brisbane (out from $15)
$34 Gold Coast (in from $51)

Read more: http://www.sportsnews.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers-to-make-top-eight-in-afl-2013-season/80972#ixzz2Zm4VHqBw
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 24, 2013, 03:48:26 AM
Your AFL club's run home

    Matt Windley
    From: Herald Sun
    July 23, 2013 6:31PM




6. RICHMOND

44pts 118.0%
R18: Sydney, SCG
R19: Hawthorn, MCG
R20: Brisbane Lions, MCG
R21: Carlton, MCG
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG

Matt says: Finally it's certain - Richmond will make the finals for the first time since 2001. Now for the Tigers it's about positioning themselves as a team to be reckoned with - and a win against either of Sydney or Hawthorn in the next two weeks will do just that. Top four? Unlikely. But Damien Hardwick's men still play the Swans and Bombers, two teams also fighting for the double chance. Wins against both will drop those sides within the Tigers grasp.


MATT WINDLEY'S PREDICTED LADDER

1. Hawthorn 19-3
2. Geelong 19-3
3. Essendon 18-4
4. Sydney 17-1-4
5. Fremantle 17-1-4
6. Richmond 14-8
7. Collingwood 13-9
8. Port Adelaide 13-9
--------
9. Carlton 10-12
10. Adelaide 10-12
11. West Coast 10-12
12. Brisbane Lions 10-12
13. Gold Coast 9-13
14. North Melbourne 7-15
15. Western Bulldogs 5-17
16. St Kilda 3-19
17. Melbourne 2-20
18. Greater Western Sydney 1-21
 


Which would mean...

WEEK 1 FINALS

Hawthorn v Sydney, MCG
Geelong v Essendon, MCG
Fremantle v Port Adelaide, Patersons Stadium
Richmond v Collingwood, MCG
 
WEEK 2 FINALS
Loser of Haw v Syd // winner of Frem v P.A
Loser of Geel v Ess // winner of Rich v Coll

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/your-afl-clubs-run-home/story-fnelctok-1226683937867
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 24, 2013, 07:00:31 AM
Most interesting thing about that final ladder is he has GWS winning a game  :o :o

How and who?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Siberian on July 24, 2013, 09:03:52 AM
Has the demons on 2 wins.. round 19 at skoda?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2013, 04:03:59 PM
Carlton back down to 9th  ;D.

This weekend has seen the Lions, Suns and Crows faint chances bite the dust.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
The Dogs have knocked off the Eagles so we can write of West Coast as well.

Up now to Port and Carlton for the 8th spot. If Essendon are stripped of their points then both will get get in.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2013, 08:33:46 PM
Ladder after Round 18 ......... 5 weeks to go.

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Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 29, 2013, 03:02:16 AM
The run home
By staff reporters
afl.com.au
9:05pm AEST Sunday, July 28, 2013



6. Richmond
44 points (11 wins, six losses) 113.3 per cent

The Tigers' win over Freo last weekend gave them some breathing space as they entered into a tough few weeks. Despite Sunday's loss to the Swans they look like playing finals for the first time since 2001 but they'll need to get points against one of Hawthorn, the Brisbane Lions or Carlton before facing the Giants in round 22. They round out their season against Essendon and it remains to be seen how much the Bombers will have to play for in the final round.

The run home:
Rd 19: Hawthorn at the MCG
Rd 20: Brisbane Lions at the MCG
Rd 21: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 22: Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium
Rd 23: Essendon at the MCG

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-28/the-run-home-round-18
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Stripes on July 29, 2013, 12:08:14 PM
I hope we haven't gone a bit early with the finals predictions..... :o Neither of Brisbane or GWS looked like easy-beats on the weekend  :-[
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: pmac21 on July 29, 2013, 12:46:31 PM
If we can't beat Brisbane or GWS then we don't deserve the spot anyway

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on July 29, 2013, 01:01:35 PM
would prefer to finish 9th and take Essendrug's spot
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 29, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
would prefer to finish 9th and take Essendrug's spot

Would prefer to miss all together as it would be nostalgic
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mat073 on July 29, 2013, 05:07:28 PM
If we can't beat Brisbane or GWS then we don't deserve the spot anyway

Yes pmac....lose to GWS and once again the smell of burning plastic will be emanating from the microwave.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on July 31, 2013, 02:08:22 AM
Matt Windley looks at each team's run home and the finals make-up

    By Matt Windley
    From: Herald Sun
    July 30, 2013 7:20PM




6. RICHMOND
44pts 113.3%
R19: Hawthorn, MCG
R20: Brisbane Lions, MCG
R21: Carlton, MCG
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG

Matt says: The loss to Sydney dashed any hope Richmond had of finishing in the top four, even the top five. It's looking more and more likely the Tigers and Collingwood will jostle for places six and seven on the ladder, the consequences of which are mouth-watering.



MATT WINDLEY'S PREDICTED LADDER

1. Hawthorn 19-3
2. Geelong 19-3
3. Sydney 17-1-4
4. Fremantle 17-1-4
5. Essendon 17-5
6. Richmond 14-8
7. Collingwood 14-8
8. Port Adelaide 13-9
---------------------------
9. Carlton 10-12
10. Brisbane Lions 10-12
11. Adelaide 9-13
12. West Coast 9-13
13. Gold Coast 9-13
14. North Melbourne 7-15
15. Western Bulldogs 7-15
16. St Kilda 3-19
17. Melbourne 2-20
18. Greater Western Sydney 1-21

Which would mean...

WEEK 1 FINALS

Hawthorn v Fremantle, MCG
Geelong v Sydney, MCG
Essendon v Port Adelaide, Etihad Stadium
Richmond v Collingwood, MCG

WEEK 2 FINALS
Loser of Haw v Frem // winner of Ess v P.A
Loser of Geel v Syd // winner of Rich v Coll

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/matt-windley-looks-at-each-teams-run-home-and-tries-to-predict-the-finals-make-up-come-september/story-fnelctok-1226688348435
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mat073 on July 31, 2013, 05:55:07 PM
Feeling a little nervous....
Would like to see a docker victory on the weekend.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
3 games clear now of the Blues in ninth. 13 wins plus % will make finals a mathematical certainty  :thumbsup.

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 03, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Next week assuming we beat Brissy gets us to 13. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 04, 2013, 07:40:27 PM
The filth are now sitting above us on equal points and % now.
Brisbane a must win, and secondly need a good margin  :pray

http://www.afl.com.au/ladder
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 04, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
The filth are now sitting above us on equal points and % now.
Brisbane a must win, and secondly need a good margin  :pray

http://www.afl.com.au/ladder

As things stand whether we are 6th or 7th on the ladder going into finals we play Collingwood week 1.
Assuming Essendon lose their points we are 6th and we play a home final v Port at the G.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: julzqld on August 04, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
Yeah thanks Bummers for letting the Pies beat you and bump us down to 7th :banghead
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on August 04, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
 >:(
Yeah thanks Bummers for letting the Pies beat you and bump us down to 7th :banghead

Only one game and a bit of percentage away from the injectorbums
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 04, 2013, 09:24:23 PM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on August 04, 2013, 09:41:50 PM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D

have to agree pies will finish below us by the end of home of away season.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 04, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D

How many do you believe they will honestly from that 4? Not out of the question they could win 3 of those imo.
Thing is I dont have a true reading on them as their form has been up and down, but that alone is not enough reason to discount yhem
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: bojangles17 on August 04, 2013, 09:59:28 PM
All of those sides play well against colingwood, wouldnt expet to lose all, nor win all either
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 04, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D

How many do you believe they will honestly from that 4? Not out of the question they could win 3 of those imo.
Thing is I dont have a true reading on them as their form has been up and down, but that alone is not enough reason to discount yhem

Given they have a tougher draw and they are not on 13 yet, Hawthorn they struggle to beat, Sydney thrashed them earlier this season and beat them at Homebush in the Prelim but the Pies then were a level above what they have dished out this season. Geelong they match up well on but again Premierships are won from the top 4 of the 8 not the bottom 4 so I think the Nought game may be their best chance given Nought still have to play Adelaide at AAMI, Hawthorn and Collingwood and may be out of finals contention by then, or so we hope. Who cares as long as we keep winning. ;D
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on August 04, 2013, 10:19:54 PM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D

They will be flat out winning 1 more before the end of the season.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 04, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D

They will be flat out winning 1 more before the end of the season.

Pretty much what I stated Smokey. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 05, 2013, 07:47:50 AM
Pies have Sydney Hawthorn Geelong and Nought in the next four weeks we will be back above them at some point in time over the next few weeks. ;D

They will be flat out winning 1 more before the end of the season.

Pretty much what I stated Smokey. :thumbsup

I hope so for everyones sake  :birthday :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Stripes on August 05, 2013, 12:48:42 PM
Love to see the us finish 6th and play Port at 7th. Let the Bombers finish 5th and play Collingwood at 8th. If the Bombers lose their points then I just pray that we don't have to play North or Carlton  :pray. Of course if we can squeeze into the 4 then we won't have to worry about any of this  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on August 05, 2013, 07:21:58 PM
(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj489/dwwaino/E3DF58E2-49B4-4562-9A99-84E689C90B30-8108-00000E9F55302BC1_zpsf69f187d.jpg)
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 05, 2013, 10:08:46 PM
Had a norf flog post that on his facebook with some smart comment.  :lol must be hard being the only norf supporter he knows  :rollin
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on August 05, 2013, 10:31:07 PM
 :lol yeah I got it from a Melbourne supporter.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 05, 2013, 10:34:51 PM
Had a norf flog post that on his facebook with some smart comment.  :lol must be hard being the only norf supporter he knows  :rollin

Did you ask your Nought friend to take the Tom Waterhouse special on Nought.
If your team leads at 3/4 time and loses you get your money back.
Nought have done that at least 6 times this season. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 05, 2013, 11:09:09 PM
Had a norf flog post that on his facebook with some smart comment.  :lol must be hard being the only norf supporter he knows  :rollin

Did you ask your Nought friend to take the Tom Waterhouse special on Nought.
If your team leads at 3/4 time and loses you get your money back.
Nought have done that at least 6 times this season. :lol :rollin :lol

Nah hes a flog, just keep on there so when they win they celebrate and win they lose.... dead silence...
I did post a norf memes and said lets hope they make 9th 3 of out 4 yrs... :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: torch on August 05, 2013, 11:42:28 PM
Need to finish 5th!
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Dice on August 06, 2013, 09:14:17 AM
Need to finish 5th!

I reckon we will finish 5th with Collingwood , Essendon and Port a game or two below us and they will all be around the 56pt mark .  Essendon are no good , as I've been tellin you guys so they may still finish 8th if they get well beaten by North , Carlton and us as I suspect they will. Otherwise we'll be playing Port at the G in the first final.
 
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 06, 2013, 09:49:33 AM
i want port at the G

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 07, 2013, 04:23:51 AM
Here's the AFL website's ladder predictor:

http://www.afl.com.au/ladder/ladder-predictor


MATT WINDLEY'S PREDICTED LADDER:
1. Hawthorn 18-4
2. Geelong 18-4
3. Sydney 17-1-4
4. Fremantle 17-1-4
5. Richmond 16-6
6. Essendon 15-7
7. Collingwood 14-8
8. Port Adelaide 13-9
--------
9. North Melbourne 10-12
10. Carlton 10-12
11. Brisbane Lions 10-12
12. West Coast 9-13
13. Gold Coast 9-13
14. Adelaide 8-14
15. Western Bulldogs 7-15
16. St Kilda 3-19
17. Melbourne 2-20
18. Greater Western Sydney 1-21


7. RICHMOND
48pts 115.5%
R20: Brisbane Lions, MCG
R21: Carlton, MCG
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG
Matt says: They said a run of matches against Fremantle, Sydney and Hawthorn would be season-defining - how true that turned out to be. Not only is Richmond now certain of playing in its first finals series since 2001, it will likely head in to September as one of the competition's form teams and a legitimate contender for the premiership. Anything's possible if the Tigers play like they did against the Hawks for the rest of the year. Damien Hardwick's men have the draw to be able to win their last four games on the trot, which would likely mean a fifth-placed finish awaits. That would be huge, as the reward for finishing fifth is likely to be a home final against Port Adelaide.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/matt-windley-looks-at-each-teams-run-home-and-tries-to-predict-the-finals-make-up-come-september/story-fnelctok-1226688348435#mm-breached
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: 1965 on August 07, 2013, 06:07:56 AM
7. RICHMOND
48pts 115.5%
R20: Brisbane Lions, MCG
R21: Carlton, MCG
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG
Matt says: They said a run of matches against Fremantle, Sydney and Hawthorn would be season-defining - how true that turned out to be. Not only is Richmond now certain of playing in its first finals series since 2001, it will likely head in to September as one of the competition's form teams and a legitimate contender for the premiership. Anything's possible if the Tigers play like they did against the Hawks for the rest of the year. Damien Hardwick's men have the draw to be able to win their last four games on the trot, which would likely mean a fifth-placed finish awaits. That would be huge, as the reward for finishing fifth is likely to be a home final against Port Adelaide.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/matt-windley-looks-at-each-teams-run-home-and-tries-to-predict-the-finals-make-up-come-september/story-fnelctok-1226688348435#mm-breached

Hmmmm

and with only 12 wins.

 :lol
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2013, 10:26:26 PM
Pies winning tonight means we stay seventh below them on percentage :scream.

We're both now level on points with Essendon although the Bombers have a game in hand playing the Eagles tomorrow at Etihad.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Muscles on August 11, 2013, 10:15:07 AM

We're both now level on points with Essendon although the Bombers have a game in hand playing the Eagles tomorrow at Etihad.


If the Eagles play true to late-season form, OE, they will be seriously considering their position in the forthcoming draft.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2013, 09:29:45 PM
"If this year ninth means eighth, I'm sure that club will take it" - Brenton Sanderson after Adelaide's win over North today.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-11/sanderson-postmatch-report


Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 12, 2013, 10:35:28 PM
So with 3 rounds remaining ive hit the ladder predictor and done a realistic assesment.
If we can concentrate on winning the next 3 games and not worry about other results we can finish 5th and ensure a home final. Lose one and we will finish 6 possibly 7th depending on whether we lose that to bombres or not.

Need to ensure we win convingcly too as pies percentage will increase and I believe they can knock over hawks and norf.
http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab353/esp_eraser/Screenshot_2013-08-12-22-24-53.png

Thoughts?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: 1965 on August 13, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
So with 3 rounds remaining ive hit the ladder predictor and done a realistic assesment.
If we can concentrate on winning the next 3 games and not worry about other results we can finish 5th and ensure a home final. Lose one and we will finish 6 possibly 7th depending on whether we lose that to bombres or not.

Need to ensure we win convingcly too as pies percentage will increase and I believe they can knock over hawks and norf.
http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab353/esp_eraser/Screenshot_2013-08-12-22-24-53.png

Thoughts?

 If Syd v Hawks round 23 goes the other way we end up in Fourth spot. (given all your other picks are correct)

 :cheers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 13, 2013, 01:14:45 PM
 :cheers hope so 65
Dare to dream  :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2013, 03:17:17 AM
MATT WINDLEY'S PREDICTED LADDER: after round 20:

1. Hawthorn 18-4
2. Geelong 18-4
3. Fremantle 17-1-4
4. Sydney 16-1-5
5. Richmond 16-6
6. Collingwood 15-7
7. Port Adelaide 13-9
8. Essendon 13-9
--------
9. Carlton 10-12
10. West Coast 10-12
11. Brisbane Lions 10-12
12. North Melbourne 9-13
13. Adelaide 9-13
14. Gold Coast 9-13
15. Western Bulldogs 8-14
16. St Kilda 3-19
17. Melbourne 2-20
18. Greater Western Sydney 1-21

Which would mean ...

WEEK 1 FINALS:
Hawthorn v Sydney, MCG
Geelong v Fremantle, Etihad Stadium
Richmond v Essendon, MCG
Collingwood v Port Adelaide, MCG

WEEK 2 FINALS:
Loser of Haw v Syd // winner of Rich v Ess
Loser of Geel v Frem // winner of Coll v P.A

------------------------------------------------------

6. RICHMOND
52pts 116.2%

R21: Carlton, MCG
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG

Matt says: Richmond is on the prowl and not yet out of contention for the top four. The Tigers will start favourite in their last three games. If they manage to go three from three then they will finish fourth if Sydney lose to both Geelong and Hawthorn. It's not the most unlikely scenario, and no doubt Tigers fans would already be eyeing off the possibility of a qualifying final against their bunnies the Hawks, but there's a lot of water to go under the bridge yet.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/matt-windley-looks-at-each-teams-run-home-and-tries-to-predict-the-finals-make-up-come-september/story-fnelctok-1226696492686
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on August 14, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
Any of you blokes gonna volunteer to go to the MCG the night before a finals game with the Hawks and turn on the sprinklers for the whole night?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 16, 2013, 10:58:36 PM
Tom harley, bruce and co were talking about the first week of finals and how it would look like . They had us playing port, then they said someone would have to play at etigad to which Tom said the lowest drawing crowd which would be us and port.

He then smugly said tge tigers supporters wouldnt be happy and hark up but if youve only made 2 finals in 25 years you take what your given.

 :nope no no no Tom, we wont take what you or any other muppet suggests!
How would you like to take a turkeyslap from me and break your jaw? Huh pal?

They fear the wakeing giant.... for it is no longer in slumber  :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 16, 2013, 11:03:46 PM
Tom harley, bruce and co were talking about the first week of finals and how it would look like . They had us playing port, then they said someone would have to play at etigad to which Tom said the lowest drawing crowd which would be us and port.

He then smugly said tge tigers supporters wouldnt be happy and hark up but if youve only made 2 finals in 25 years you take what your given.

 :nope no no no Tom, we wont take what you or any other muppet suggests!
How would you like to take a turkeyslap from me and break your jaw? Huh pal?

They fear the wakeing giant.... for it is no longer in slumber  :gotigers

i heard that too and wanted to punch his botoxed out face through the TV.

in all seriousness how can we avoid playing at etihad if that formula comes to fruition.

i cant see how it will work. Afl surely have a deal to play one game and i reckon we will get royally screwed.




Edit: text inside quote edited
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on August 16, 2013, 11:13:24 PM
As far as I understand it, there's no contractual obligation to have to have at least one final at Etihad. There would only be a game at Etihad if all four finals were in Melbourne. Given Freo's easy draw, it won't surprise me if they finish 2nd and get a home final in Perth.

We're up to 5th by the way :thumbsup.

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 16, 2013, 11:18:56 PM
As far as I understand it, there's no contractual obligation to have to have at least one final at Etihad. There would only be a game at Etihad if all four finals were in Melbourne. Given Freo's easy draw, it won't surprise me if they finish 2nd and get a home final in Perth.

We're up to 5th by the way :thumbsup.

That is how I understand it MT, and I remember the head of etigad saying something along those lines many months...
Its there if they want or need it
But like Daniel I wouldnt be surprised if we get screwed by the afl
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mat073 on August 17, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
Still 5th . Go roos.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Still 5th . Go roos.

We don't deserve it this weak
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 17, 2013, 05:59:51 PM
Still 5th . Go roos.

the only thing more embarrassing than not making the 8 is finishing 5th and then subsequently losing to the blues in week one.

 I will be cheering on any team that helps ensure blues don't finish 8th. Go Dons finish 5th you guys deserve it.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Ruanaidh on August 17, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
Still 5th . Go roos.

the only thing more embarrassing than not making the 8 is finishing 5th and then subsequently losing to the blues in week one.

 I will be cheering on any team that helps ensure blues don't finish 8th. Go Dons finish 5th you guys deserve it.
North on the way to a big win it would seem.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Ruanaidh on August 17, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
We may well want to drop another game in the next 2 rounds in order to book a date with the Bombers in the first final....................
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 17, 2013, 10:29:39 PM
I just checked.  :banghead

Port will lose next week
The cheating scum will beat Essendrug.

Both will be on 48 points going into the final round.
I can't see port winning that game.

stuff you Richmond!  FFS had a chance to kill their year and stuffed it up!

Unacceptable!!!!
 :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 17, 2013, 10:31:46 PM
I just checked.  :banghead

Port will lose next week
The cheating scum will beat Essendrug.

Both will be on 48 points going into the final round.
I can't see port winning that game.

stuff you Richmond!  FFS had a chance to kill their year and stuffed it up!

Unacceptable!!!!
 :banghead :banghead
This
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 17, 2013, 10:37:44 PM
We may well want to drop another game in the next 2 rounds in order to book a date with the Bombers in the first final....................

the thing is we will smash GWS and possibly beat Bombers thus putting us in 5th position.

Watch us play the scum.

A loss there would be as pathetic as finishing 9th.

Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: bojangles17 on August 17, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
I couldnt see PA lose to blues at home, that means they're out
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on August 17, 2013, 10:52:30 PM
Knock off top of the ladder, lose a spot.
Lose a game, gain a spot.

Problem?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 18, 2013, 12:16:34 AM
I just checked.  :banghead

Port will lose next week
The cheating scum will beat Essendrug.

Both will be on 48 points going into the final round.
I can't see port winning that game.

stuff you Richmond!  FFS had a chance to kill their year and stuffed it up!

Unacceptable!!!!
 :banghead :banghead
This
I lamentably concur
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 18, 2013, 08:29:46 AM
I couldnt see PA lose to blues at home, that means they're out

Don't be too sure BJ

I would think its more likely than not

They will smash bombers next week and be up and about for Port

Its going to come down to that and for the love of god I hope Port win.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 18, 2013, 08:31:18 AM
Knock off top of the ladder, lose a spot.
Lose a game, gain a spot.

Problem?

?? Who u talking about mate?
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on August 18, 2013, 08:40:43 AM
We lost a spot on the ladder after beating Hawthorn. But because of Essendon and Collingwood copping pastings we actually gain a spot on the ladder whether we won, lost or drew yesterday. The Tiggy train rolls on.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on August 18, 2013, 10:01:01 AM
We will beat Carlton if we play them in the finals. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 18, 2013, 10:16:18 AM
We will beat Carlton if we play them in the finals. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.
Is that because of Dimma's apology letter in the other thread?   :whistle
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Smokey on August 18, 2013, 11:07:50 AM
We will beat Carlton if we play them in the finals. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.

x 100
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 18, 2013, 11:17:53 AM
We will beat Carlton if we play them in the finals. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.

x 100

I have doubt we won't
We have beaten then once out of the last 10 attempts and we just won that one

I don't want to face them in the finals not because of a first rd exit but it would be humiliating

Come on bombers and Port
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 18, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
Would much rather kick Carltons ar$e in a final than h&a.
We wil be owning them in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Rampstar on August 18, 2013, 01:27:47 PM
We will beat Carlton if we play them in the finals. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.

x 100

I have doubt we won't
We have beaten then once out of the last 10 attempts and we just won that one

I don't want to face them in the finals not because of a first rd exit but it would be humiliating

Come on bombers and Port

Our players would have learnt alot out of yesterdays game. Secondly players like Cotchin, Martin, Deledio and afew others wont be kept quiet as they were yesterday - well at least not all of them at the same time, third I am almost certain that training at Richmond right now is really tough and has been for a couple of weeks, they will probably have one more week of tough training and then they will probably start to freshen up the players with lighter training loads, come finals we will be in good shape. Fourth Grimes will be fitter, McDonough is a young kid who struggled with the pace of the game yesterday he wont be playing, Newman, King and a couple of others will be in the side and they will add sufficient experience and hardness to the side. Overall I am very very confident will trash them if we play them in r1 of the finals thats just 3 or 4 reasons why we will beat them.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Ruanaidh on August 18, 2013, 01:33:37 PM
We will beat Carlton if we play them in the finals. Of that I have absolutely no doubt.

x 100

I have doubt we won't
We have beaten then once out of the last 10 attempts and we just won that one

I don't want to face them in the finals not because of a first rd exit but it would be humiliating

Come on bombers and Port

Overall I am very very confident will trash them if we play them in r1 of the finals thats just 3 or 4 reasons why we will beat them.
If we play them in the first final it will be to our advantage that we lost to them yesterday IMO. Revenge, an' all that.....
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 19, 2013, 03:46:31 AM
Finals crystal ball: Your club's predicted week one match-up
afl.com.au
9:00pm AEST Sunday, August 18, 2013



5. RICHMOND
52 points (13 wins, seven losses) 114.6 per cent

The run home:
Rd 22: Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium
Rd 23: Essendon at the MCG

If the Tigers win next week:
- They'll stay in the top six, but would need to win the following week to guarantee staying there.
- Their highest possible finish is fifth.

If they lose next week:
- They can finish anywhere from fifth to eighth.

Predicted finish: fifth

Predicted finals match-up: Richmond v Essendon, first elimination final at the MCG.

(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/0818_SIDEBAR_TIGER_TIME2620.jpeg)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-18/the-run-home-round-21
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2013, 04:15:32 AM
5. RICHMOND

52pts 114.6%
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG

Matt Windley says:
Blew any chance it had of making the top four with its loss to Carlton. Given it will start as a raging favourite against both Greater Western Sydney and Essendon, Richmond is more than likely to finish fifth. Should the Tigers win, and win well, against the Bombers in Round 23 then it's possible they will meet them again in an elimination final the following week. That's assuming Port Adelaide get in at Carlton's expense. If the Blues manage to sneak in to the eight, then a rematch of last weekend could be in the offing which may make quite a few Tigers fans nervous. If the Tigers were to lose to the Bombers in Round 23 then they can theoretically fall to as low as eighth, but would realistically hold their spot in the top six based on the draws of teams around them.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/how-is-your-club-tracking/story-fnelctok-1226700744531
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Andyy on August 21, 2013, 09:49:20 AM
I'm nervous about the prospect of playing the Bombers in the finals. They creamed us last time.

If AFL360's story/interview with that DRast night is anything to go off it sounds like the Bombers are in the clear by and large. Hope they remain stressed out/messed up.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on August 21, 2013, 10:36:39 AM
5. RICHMOND

52pts 114.6%
R22: Greater Western Sydney, Skoda Stadium
R23: Essendon, MCG

Matt Windley says:
Blew any chance it had of making the top four with its loss to Carlton. Given it will start as a raging favourite against both Greater Western Sydney and Essendon, Richmond is more than likely to finish fifth. Should the Tigers win, and win well, against the Bombers in Round 23 then it's possible they will meet them again in an elimination final the following week. That's assuming Port Adelaide get in at Carlton's expense. If the Blues manage to sneak in to the eight, then a rematch of last weekend could be in the offing which may make quite a few Tigers fans nervous. If the Tigers were to lose to the Bombers in Round 23 then they can theoretically fall to as low as eighth, but would realistically hold their spot in the top six based on the draws of teams around them.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/how-is-your-club-tracking/story-fnelctok-1226700744531

 :-\ don't think we deserve to be "raging favourites" against essendon
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: cub on August 21, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
Don't care who we play, can't wait, BRING IT ON! Just hope it's the G
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on August 23, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
Thanks to the woeful Eagles not giving a stuff tonight, they've gifted the Pies 5th spot plus a massive % boost  ::).
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: cub on August 23, 2013, 09:54:30 PM
Hired was right about something, eagles are cheats
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: mightytiges on August 23, 2013, 10:20:34 PM
Hired was right about something, eagles are cheats
LOL.

Clearly the Eagles missed Caro's news about Essendon not going to play finals  :wallywink.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2013, 08:34:02 PM
Back up to 5th with a percentage now up to 121.4  :thumbsup.

Brisbane now up to 10th level on 40 pts with Carlton.

9. Carlton      40    106.9
10. Brisbane  40      89.1
11. North      36    120.1
12. Adelaide   36    103.6
13. W.Coast   36     99.2

Next week:

Port Adelaide        vs    Carlton (9th)
Geelong               vs    Brisbane (10th)
West Coast (13th) vs   Adelaide (12th)
Collingwood           vs   North Melb. (11th)

Scenarios (assuming Essendon is kicked out):

Carlton - win and they are in.
Brisbane - need Carlton to lose and them to win.
North - need Carlton and Brisbane to lose and them to win.
Adelaide - need Carlton, Brisbane and North to lose and them to win plus make up 3% (roughly 10 goals?) on Carlton.
West Coast - need everyone above to lose with Carlton being flogged plus them flogging Adelaide ....... wishful thinking.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiger101 on August 27, 2013, 09:10:58 PM
Big round this week for that 8th spot.

It will mainly depend on if Port can bounce back this weekend. Adelaide should be able to win over west coast.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: cub on August 27, 2013, 09:17:54 PM
Ill pick cows
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 27, 2013, 09:50:14 PM
I would love the Crows too.
I have a feeling it will be Nought.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Yeahright on August 27, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
Updated ladder  ;D

(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y395/corasauras/ladder_zpsbc19c39c.png)
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 27, 2013, 10:06:16 PM
I would love the Crows too.
I have a feeling it will be Nought.

I agree with you, how unfortunate it would be for those homeless sphincters to make it into 8th to play us, and to make it worse if we had to play them at etihad stadium  :banghead :banghead

Couldnt stand being near their feral supporters, smell like big foots di ck, burnt hair and cat pee stew  :chuck
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 27, 2013, 10:14:37 PM
I would love the Crows too.
I have a feeling it will be Nought.

I agree with you, how unfortunate it would be for those homeless sphincters to make it into 8th to play us, and to make it worse if we had to play them at etihad stadium  :banghead :banghead

Couldnt stand being near their feral supporters, smell like big foots di ck, burnt hair and cat pee stew  :chuck

Etihad is one of their many park benches they sleep on. More of a home game for them than for us.
Would have to be at the G.
Geelong v Fremantle at Etihad.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: torch on August 27, 2013, 10:25:17 PM
9th Essendon

Magnificent!

 :gotigers
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiger101 on August 27, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
I would love the Crows too.
I have a feeling it will be Nought.

I agree with you, how unfortunate it would be for those homeless sphincters to make it into 8th to play us, and to make it worse if we had to play them at etihad stadium  :banghead :banghead

Couldnt stand being near their feral supporters, smell like big foots di ck, burnt hair and cat pee stew  :chuck

Etihad is one of their many park benches they sleep on. More of a home game for them than for us.
Would have to be at the G.
Geelong v Fremantle at Etihad.

I heard on the radio today Chris Scott saying they don't mind having to play at Etihad.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on August 29, 2013, 10:14:05 AM
Can someone tell me why Geelong have preference over the MCG? I've been hearing on the radio that if we have to play norf it will be at Etihad. Why is that when Geelong's home ground is Simmonds and they'll be playing an interstate team at that. Richmond v norf/bloos will also be the only game between two Melbourne sides. I can understand other times when it comes down to gate, ratings etc, but surely this wouldn't be the case when it's at the expense of teams whose home ground actually is the MCG and that it's not their prerogative to just use at will.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on August 29, 2013, 11:42:22 AM
I heard on the radio Geelong would be playing at Etihad but the AFL were looking at letting them play it at Kardinia
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: tiger101 on August 29, 2013, 01:10:35 PM
I heard on the radio Geelong would be playing at Etihad but the AFL were looking at letting them play it at Kardinia

If the AFL don't have any contractual agreements with Etihad to hold a game there I couldn't see a reason why they shouldnt be able to play at Kardinia as long as it means we play at the MCG.


Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 29, 2013, 01:52:37 PM
I heard on the radio Geelong would be playing at Etihad but the AFL were looking at letting them play it at Kardinia

There's a story on the Age web-site about, says AFL looking at it
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: gerkin greg on August 29, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
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They've got every right to ask for that now that it's a venue with lights and a venue with capacity above 30,000 people, but in the end it's more with the other three games that will be at the MCG and the timing around those and also Fremantle's travel patterns and when they should be planning, whether it should be night or day. – AFL scheduling boss Simon Lethlean

From that I take it that the 3 MCG tenants that have home hosting rights will be playing at the G and Geelong will be at Etihad or Kardinia

 :clapping
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 29, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
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They've got every right to ask for that now that it's a venue with lights and a venue with capacity above 30,000 people, but in the end it's more with the other three games that will be at the MCG and the timing around those and also Fremantle's travel patterns and when they should be planning, whether it should be night or day. – AFL scheduling boss Simon Lethlean

From that I take it that the 3 MCG tenants that have home hosting rights will be playing at the G and Geelong will be at Etihad or Kardinia

 :clapping

You beauty. :thumbsup
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 29, 2013, 04:48:05 PM
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They've got every right to ask for that now that it's a venue with lights and a venue with capacity above 30,000 people, but in the end it's more with the other three games that will be at the MCG and the timing around those and also Fremantle's travel patterns and when they should be planning, whether it should be night or day. – AFL scheduling boss Simon Lethlean

From that I take it that the 3 MCG tenants that have home hosting rights will be playing at the G and Geelong will be at Etihad or Kardinia

 :clapping

AFL web-site saying Freo sooking about the possibility about playing at Kardinia Park  ;D

Make it happen AFL - just to annoy Ross Lyon  :rollin
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: dwaino on August 29, 2013, 04:50:29 PM
Sucked in Freo  :clapping it's Geelong's turf and their right to play on it if they finish second.
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 29, 2013, 04:54:52 PM
Yep would be within their rights if afl allowed it, however I would be peeved if I was a freo supporter.  :whistle
Title: Re: The battle for the bottom 4 of the top 8
Post by: Dice on August 29, 2013, 04:56:53 PM
AFL web-site saying Freo sooking about the possibility about playing at Kardinia Park  ;D

Make it happen AFL - just to annoy Ross Lyon  :rollin

But they'd be fine with Geelong playing them at Freo's home ground if the positions were reversed. Suck it up Freo !