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Title: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 21, 2019, 06:52:17 AM
Who do you want us to meet in the Grand Final? Giants it is.


2019 AFL Grand Final

RICHMOND vs Greater Western Sydney


Saturday, 28th September @ the M.C.G.

Start time: 2:30pm AEST
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 21, 2019, 08:56:28 AM
Should be easier to get tickets if GWS make it
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 21, 2019, 09:23:30 AM
Don't care
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: cub on September 21, 2019, 10:04:00 AM
Don’t care
Would be great to beat the pies though
But I may be a nervous wreck
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Owl on September 21, 2019, 10:07:05 AM
That is the rub isn't it, winning against the pies is sweeter but losing to them is so much more bitter LOL
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Diocletian on September 21, 2019, 01:19:14 PM
Neither team will be a push over - Pies best is as good as anyone's...  GWS will get Greene, Whitfield & possibly Coniglio  back.. :shh

But we all know the stakes will be considerably higher if it's The Filth and the repercussions greater for the loser...dunno if I want to through a week of that stess, not to mention the match itself....so GWS for me... :shh  :shh

Another thing ti consider if it's Collingwood is that if their best & most important player Grundy is off to Adelaide next year then he will be extra motivated as it'll be his last chance at a flag...  :shh :shh :shh
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: georgies31 on September 21, 2019, 02:26:11 PM
Neither team will be a push over - Pies best is as good as anyone's...  GWS will get Greene, Whitfield & possibly Coniglio  back.. :shh

But we all know the stakes will be considerably higher if it's The Filth and the repercussions greater for the loser...dunno if I want to through a week of that stess, not to mention the match itself....so GWS for me... :shh  :shh

Another thing ti consider if it's Collingwood is that if their best & most important player Grundy is off to Adelaide next year then he will be extra motivated as it'll be his last chance at a flag...  :shh :shh :shh

I think Green the only one who comes in for gws no way no can they risk the other 2.We should fear no one simple as that.
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Owl on September 21, 2019, 04:40:08 PM
When we got our guys coming back, we dismantled both these mobs so I don't care too much, Collingwood were in shock after the last game, all their supporters I know are pooting bricks that they will have to play us if they get through lol.  Me, I am just like last time, rapt to be there, and not counting on anything.
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Owl on September 21, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
come to think of it.....I also don't wanna lose to some poxy franchise club in their first Grandfinal lol
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 21, 2019, 07:22:05 PM
Well it's the Giants
Great game today

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: mightytiges on September 21, 2019, 07:26:46 PM
The Giants almost coughed up a 33 point lead in the last quarter. They also barely hung on against Brisbane. So they are getting tired late in games. We've got to make sure we start well so we're at least with or ahead of them at 3/4 time. We've been finishing the finals strongly after half-time. It won't be easy but we won't fear them. We've just got to bring our best footy and intensity from the first bounce.
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: tdy on September 21, 2019, 07:27:16 PM
It's the giants but honestly it was a pretty crap game just a tight ending. Sloppy wet weather Uber defensive crap all of the game I watched. Which was about half the game.
Pendlebury seemed the only Collingwood player able to execute a kick properly.
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Owl on September 21, 2019, 07:30:38 PM
Really garbage game, looked like a combination of hash smoking Giraffes and Hippos bumbling around until Collingwood realised they were getting pumped in the pooper in the last half of the last quarter lol
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 21, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
Given Collingwood lost it was a great game regardless of the quality  :shh
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Owl on September 21, 2019, 07:57:34 PM
lol true
Title: Re: Grand Final: Who do you want us to play?
Post by: Diocletian on September 21, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Ben Dixon just tipped us for a threepeat... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 21, 2019, 09:37:11 PM
2019 AFL Grand Final

RICHMOND vs Greater Western Sydney


Saturday, 28th September @ the M.C.G.

Start time: 2:30pm AEST

(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/Finals-Pathway_1280-x-730_GF.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 21, 2019, 10:12:51 PM
I'm guessing it's going to be like the 1974 Granny where every non-Tiger fan was going for the opposition in their first GF.

"Tigers vs the world" as Hafey said back then. Bring it on!  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 22, 2019, 03:40:46 AM
As for matchups what we thinking guys they have a few talls up forward.There a tall side.O Keefe may stay in to help Mumford.Davis usually goes to Jack and Jack always has his measure.Can't see them bringing underdone players even the player with appendix big risks.

Can someone refresh our 2 games against them this season.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 22, 2019, 04:17:00 AM
AFL grand final 2019 preview: Tigers and Giants reach the big dance

Ronny Lerner
The Age
22 September 2019


After six months of gruelling competition, the wheat has been separated from the chaff and we are down to the final two teams. The 2019 grand final is upon us and it will be Richmond taking on Greater Western Sydney for the AFL’s ultimate prize.

And it’s fair to say that this match-up is a bit of a surprise. An all-Victorian premiership decider between two of the competition’s fiercest rivals in Richmond and Collingwood was the hot favourite heading into the preliminary final weekend, but the Giants had other ideas.

To fly down to Melbourne and defeat the Magpies without the suspended Toby Greene and sick Lachie Whitfield (appendicitis), as well as the injured Stephen Coniglio, Callan Ward, Brett Deledio and Jon Patton, in front of 77,828 screaming Collingwood supporters was a truly incredible achievement and comfortably the biggest win in the club’s eight-year history.

In fact, it was probably their 2017 preliminary final against Richmond under similar circumstances that prepared them for Saturday’s encounter with the Magpies.

There’s no doubt league headquarters would have been barracking hard for a Richmond-Collingwood grand final as well, but ironically their "baby" was the team that got in the way of that dream coming to fruition.

HISTORY LESSON


Richmond won their first five meetings with GWS by an average margin of 56 points, but since then the Giants have held sway, winning four of their last seven encounters.

They met twice during the 2019 home-and-away season with GWS winning the first of those matches by 49 points at Giants Stadium, and Richmond taking the honours the second time round by 27 points at a wet MCG in round 17.

It’s hard to know how much both teams will look into their respective defeats in those meetings. In round three, Richmond were missing Jack Riewoldt, Dylan Grimes, Bachar Houli, Josh Caddy, Shai Bolton, Ivan Soldo and Liam Baker while in the return bout, GWS didn’t have Josh Kelly, Jeremy Finlayson, Matt De Boer, Shane Mumford, Aidan Corr or Lachie Keeffe at their disposal. All of those players featured in the preliminary finals.

But the Giants would probably take more from their defeat given Coniglio hurt his knee in the opening minutes and despite that huge blow, and trailing by 26 points at quarter-time, they only got outscored by a point in the final three terms.

X-FACTOR

From a Richmond perspective it’s hard to go past the superstar that is Dustin Martin. Already in this finals series he has shown how versatile and damaging he can be.

In the qualifying final against the Brisbane Lions he spent a large portion of the game in attack and ended up being the difference, kicking six goals and becoming the first Tiger to kick that many majors in a final since Kevin Bartlett (seven) and David Cloke (six) in the 1980 grand final.

Then on Friday night against Geelong, after appearing to cop a corked thigh/knee early, he shook off that knock to have an impact up forward (two goals) but also generate drive from the midfield, too.

As for the Giants, they will welcome back Greene with open arms because he could quite literally drag his side to a maiden premiership. Like Martin, he is such a hard match-up, as he’s already shown in his first two finals, and has the uncanny ability of creating something out of nothing.

TACTICS

There’s no question that the Giants are at their best when they ramp up the physicality and aggression. Not only is their team full of exquisitely talented players, but it’s also chock-full of grunt, which is perfect for finals footy, as has been proven again this year.

But the Tigers are no shrinking violets themselves, and much of their success is built on their attack on the man with the ball. During the home-and-away season, Richmond were ranked No.1 for tackle differentials, while GWS were equal eighth.

When Richmond get a full head of steam going, as they’ve shown against the Lions and Cats this September, they’re almost impossible to stop, especially with their damaging handball game, which demands the ball surges forward as quickly as possible at all costs.

The Tigers are arguably the most efficient and well-drilled team in the AFL, but even still, given GWS are ranked first and second for uncontested and contested possessions respectively, compared to Richmond who are 12th and 16th, those are definitely areas the Giants will try to exploit.

PREDICTION

The Giants have been fantastic in this finals series so far, winning three games, including two on the road, to finally reach their first grand final after three consecutive failures in the finals. Becoming just the third team ever to reach the premiership decider from sixth place on the ladder or lower is no mean feat either.

But this will be their third consecutive trip interstate, while the Tigers have had to leave Melbourne once since round 16. Richmond have been tested by the Lions and Cats in the first halves of their respective finals, but both times they’ve responded like a champion team to extend their winning streak to 11 matches.

Richmond have now won 34 of their last 37 games at the MCG and while the Giants won’t go down without a fight, the Tigers should be too good and draw level with Melbourne on 12 premierships.

Richmond by 25 points.


https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-grand-final-2019-preview-tigers-and-giants-reach-the-big-dance-20190921-p52tke.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 22, 2019, 08:46:56 AM
if we win on Saturday and Im not taking anything for granted, I will consider 2019 the greatest Premiership victory in the modern history of the club better than 1967 and even better than 2017. It will be a premiership based on courage and sacrifice and one so worthy that I will cry from happiness. One win please, just one more win.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: lamington on September 22, 2019, 09:00:14 AM
They’re going to send de boer to go really hard on Martin. I hope the boys can get ascendency in the midfield. I agree that this will be one of the greatest premierships if the tigers can just jag one more win. To face the adversity of the injuries and to unearth some real talented kids, to cap it off with a premiership would be out of this world
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 22, 2019, 09:13:37 AM
Why can't someone put a hard tag on de boer?

Sick of this bloke thinking he can scrap dusty and get away with it ( which he will as it's a GF)

Hopefully someone runs right through at the first bounce

This is the match up that wins us the GF
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: eliminator on September 22, 2019, 09:36:16 AM
It will be an incredibly tough game. Need to nullify the aggression of Mumford and support Dustin to max to help him deal with De Boer.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 22, 2019, 09:46:24 AM
To negate De Boer, negating Dusty and to ensure he Dusty doesn't get sucked in at the first bounce I'd actually start Dusty at FF.

That starts the game on our terms and gives Dusty a early chance to win the first contest
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: cub on September 22, 2019, 09:59:29 AM
Towner in to do a Yeats on the prick
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 22, 2019, 10:30:44 AM
I have a feeling that this game will go down to the wire

Will be a tough, no holds barred encounter and GWS will look to impose themselves early on in the contest.

Need to do what we've been great at all year- Follow the process and take every opportunity

I thought I would be less nervous this time around, but how can you be?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 22, 2019, 10:58:53 AM
Astbury to Finlayson
Grimes to Cameron
Broad to Green

Tipping Lynch and Jack to be big.

Need to stick a sniper on de Boer and Green, wear a double suspension for 2020 but get them properly sorted out.

Dusty will need to lift.

Soldo will be fine vs Mumford.

Balta for 2nd ruck instead of Nank. Strong enough to compete in the ruck but will absolutely run circles around that iceberg Mumford outside of the ruck duels.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 22, 2019, 11:06:35 AM
Giants looked shagged in that last quarter, Mumford looked like he was gonna die for most of the second half, reminded me of our Tross and the full body cramp at one stage...ahh good times..,  but yeah they must be pretty buggered after three hard finals games
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Lozza on September 22, 2019, 11:20:07 AM
Have a feeling that if Dusty goes forward they will tag Prestia, he has been our prime mover in the middle along with Sheds.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 22, 2019, 11:30:38 AM
First thing is we need to start well cannot afford a poor start again.Take ascendancy were at home get the tigger faithfull up and about and get the games on our terms.Dont let gws settle.There last 2 weeks they have tired in the last quarter big time gws something to take note

Start Martin in the guts and let De Boer go to him and drag him up forward and get him one on one.We need to support Martin.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 22, 2019, 11:47:02 AM
We need to be take out deboer legally if posdible. First opportunity somebody gets they should take him out. If its not legal doesnt matter. If someone cops 8 weeks doesnt matter.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 22, 2019, 07:29:31 PM
It's meant to be fine on GF day. A slight chance of a shower but that's further to the north according to Jane Bunn.


Saturday 28 September

Summary
    Min 9
    Max 18
    Possible shower.
    Possible rainfall: 0 to 0.4 mm
    Chance of any rain: 30%

Melbourne area

Partly cloudy. Slight (30%) chance of a shower. Winds west to southwesterly 15 to 25 km/h.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 22, 2019, 11:36:20 PM
BARRETT: It's showtime for Dusty's Tigers and Toby's Giants

Damian Barrett
AFL.com.au
Sep 23, 2019


THE CLUB with everything to lose versus the one with nothing to lose.

The club with a 134-year history against the one with just eight years of AFL life.

The club with Dusty versus the one with Toby.

It's not the Grand Final match-up anyone expected, but in so many ways, Richmond-GWS presents as the perfect 2019 finale.

There is intrigue everywhere, even a possibility of a player making his AFL debut. Should the Tigers determine that Jack Graham's popped shoulder is too risky to take into a Grand Final, then Marlion Pickett has mounted a very strong case for inclusion after a six-week VFL stint, culminating with a best-afield performance in the VFL Grand Final on Sunday.

Richmond has been the dominant team of the past three seasons, but a loss in the Grand Final would leave it with just one premiership in that period.

GWS was a Grand Final afterthought as recently as the Saturday afternoon start time of its preliminary final against Collingwood. But one of the most courageous finals wins in VFL/AFL history has convinced the Giants they belong in this weekend's match.

With Greene and Lachie Whitfield to be added to the preliminary final-winning team – Greene after a controversial suspension and Whitfield after emergency appendicitis surgery last week – fresh, top-shelf, worrying-for-Richmond class will be added to the Giants' mix.

It is unlikely Stephen Coniglio will be given medical clearance to return for his first match after a knee injury suffered in round 17. But the Tigers have long known they would be without their best player, Alex Rance, balancing out the injury ledger in this match.

The forward lines of both sides pose massive problems for opponents, Tom Lynch and Jeremy Cameron spearheading the respective line-ups. Both are in sparkling form and were crucial to preliminary finals wins.

Lynch's 61 goals from his 24 matches has helped cover the injury and form issues of Jack Riewoldt (19 goals from 12 matches in 2019).

Giants key defenders in Nick Haynes and Phil Davis have been crucial all season, and their roles on Saturday will shape the result.

Haynes may be the most underrated player in the competition.

Then there's the swagger, the celebrity, the box office of Dusty and Toby.

Martin has been to this day before, resoundingly leading his Tigers to a win against Adelaide in 2017 and winning the Norm Smith Medal.

Greene hasn't, but he was born for this stage. Suspended from the preliminary final after consecutive weeks of roughing up the opposition's best player (Marcus Bontempelli in an elimination final and Lachie Neale in a semi-final), he will almost certainly, in his own smug way – and I'm not using that description as a negative – attempt to get inside the minds of Martin and Trent Cotchin.

In a match full of intrigue, Greene is the AFL's most intriguing player.

And if Dusty is Brad Pitt at the box office, then Toby is Leonardo DiCaprio.

Once Upon A Time At The MCG
… coming to your screens this Saturday.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-22/barrett-its-showtime-for-dustys-tigers-and-tobys-giants
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 23, 2019, 09:28:10 AM
Brad Pitt from Snatch ill take that, knock that prick right out lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2019, 11:39:48 PM
Estimated attendance
100,024

Opening times of Gates
Public            9.30am
AFL Reserve   9.30am
MCC Reserve  8.00am

Curtain raiser
10.00am-11.50am - NAB U/18 All-Stars

Pre-match schedule
11.55am   Presentation for curtain raiser match
12.15pm   Sprint heats
1.02pm   Teams warm-up
1.26pm   Motorcade and entertainment
2.13pm   Team entry
2.26pm   National anthem
2.30pm   Match commences

Cheer squad locations


Richmond: M3
GWS GIANTS: M33

https://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2019/september/2019-afl-grand-final
Title: Which Tiger gets 'de Boered' - Dusty or Dion? (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2019, 03:08:56 AM
Which Tiger gets 'de Boered' - Dusty or Dion?

Jake Niall
The Age
24 September 2019


In their only encounter this year, Matt de Boer harassed, goaded and negated Dustin Martin to the point that Dusty garnered only 15 disposals, was distracted and then suspended for an off-the-ball strike on the tiresome tagger, as the Giants romped to a 49-point victory.

Given that history of negation and de Boer's subsequent successes on Patrick Dangerfield, Marcus Bontempelli and Scott Pendlebury, the Tigers should be prepared for an encore, and for Dusty to be "de Boered" again in the grand final, albeit the Giants cannot budget for Martin to be as subjugated as in round three.

But if Martin is Richmond's – and arguably the game's – most damaging footballer, there's another midfielder whom Leon Cameron might consider placing in the de Boer crosshairs.

Dion Prestia has never been celebrated like "Dusty" or his skipper Trent Cotchin, nor did his arrival at Punt Rd in the trade period of 2016 have anything like the high-fiving and coverage that accompanied his ex-Gold Coast team mate Tom Lynch, the subject of a fierce competition between the Tigers, Collingwood and Hawthorn.

Prestia, though, has been a stealth star in 2019. Hitherto, understated and underrated, Prestia has been not only Richmond's best performer since the round 14 bye, he's also the highest ranked player in the AFL, according to Champion Data's player ratings, which are said to give a more accurate, calibrated measure of a player's contribution to his team.

Over that period, when the Tigers have won 11 straight, Prestia has led the Tigers in disposals (30.1), contested possessions (12.8) and clearances (6.1).

He's in the top three in several other categories, such as tackles and inside 50s. He will probably vie with Dylan Grimes for Richmond's best and fairest. Prestia's influence against the Cats last Friday rivalled that of Lynch and Bachar Houli, as he booted two crucial goals from 28 telling possessions.

Prestia gets the ball more than any other Tiger, and while he doesn't catch the eye like Martin, one can mount a case that de Boer would help the GWS cause more by an assignment on Prestia than Martin.

The case for playing de Boer on Prestia is buttressed by the fact that Martin spends significant time as a forward. This was most pronounced in the qualifying final against the Brisbane Lions, when Dusty was deployed forward (whether that was Dusty's choice or Damien Hardwick's) and booted six goals from just nine disposals.

Richmond scores more often when kicking to Martin than any other forward. The Tigers are expert in isolating Dusty in genuine one-out contests in which he can beat the defender either in the air (with body-work rather than a high mark), or on the deck. Most midfield taggers are ill-suited to playing as a defender on him.

Leon Cameron, certainly, will be considering this question of opponent for his midfield gadfly. He can make contingency plans, starting de Boer on Martin at centre bounces and then assigning a defender to man him when the superstar is forward.

Prestia would be a straightforward role for de Boer, because he doesn't play as a target forward. He'll remain on the ball for the bulk of the game, much like Pendlebury. De Boer's art of negation is more suited to the midfield than to defence.

Richmond football boss Neil Balme acknowledged that these de Boer scenarios are contemplated and war-gamed, while noting that the choice of opponent for de Boer is a GWS decision.

"If they want to play someone on someone, they'll play someone on someone. And if they play someone on someone, they'll end up playing him on someone else.

"Of course we think about it, we look at and say may happen if, if, if. But again we can't do much about it."

Most teams can't do much about Dustin Martin and, in the selfless de Boer, GWS has a player who has actually made Martin lose his implacable focus on the ball. If Dusty is the obvious target, Prestia's form – and less complicated position – gives the Giants another option.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/who-gets-de-boered-dusty-or-dion-20190923-p52u61.html
Title: The Tiger that needs “a lot of attention” in Grand Final (SEN)
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2019, 03:11:11 AM
The Tiger that needs “a lot of attention” in Grand Final

By SEN
24 Sep 2019


GWS should tag in-form Richmond midfielder Dion Prestia in Saturday’s Grand Final, according to Nick Dal Santo.

The consistent midfielder is having an outstanding season and has further enhanced his credentials this finals series.

Prestia, 26, is averaging 30 disposals, 7.5 clearances, 7.5 tackles and seven inside 50s in September and Dal Santo feels the former Sun is the man the Giants should look to lock down on.

“The one that needs a lot of attention come Saturday afternoon – Dion Prestia,” Dal Santo told SEN Afternoons.

“He should be tagged by Matt de Boer - I would have him ahead of Dusty (Dustin Martin). The last two weeks at centre bounces while Dusty has been in there - they’ve won three as a team and lost 15.

“Three from 18 when Dusty Martin has been at centre square bounces in finals.

“I’d have Aidan Corr on Dustin Martin when he goes forward … De Boer goes to Prestia – the No.1 ranked player in the competition since the bye. He is an absolute jet.”

Richmond is gunning for a second flag in three years when they meet GWS at the MCG in this weekend’s decider.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/23/the-tiger-that-needs-a-lot-of-attention-in-grand-final/
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Slipper on September 24, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
What are the rules if the game is a draw?

Extra time?

Is a replay possible?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: lamington on September 24, 2019, 08:27:14 AM
They changed the rules to have extra time which was experienced with port vs eagles a couple or so years ago? So there will be no replay
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Slipper on September 24, 2019, 08:31:41 AM
They changed the rules to have extra time which was experienced with port vs eagles a couple or so years ago? So there will be no replay

Thanks

I wasn't sure if it applied to the GF
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 24, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
We must cut there  midfield supply to there forwards go a long way to winning the match our midfield has to breake even.Pressure and tackling wave from forwards and midfield has to strong, pies last week didn't do that.
Title: McGuane: Expect plenty of chaos this Grand Final (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2019, 12:56:23 PM
McGuane: Expect plenty of chaos this Grand Final

Mick McGuane,
Herald Sun
24 Sep 2019


The stage is set for the biggest game of the year.

But how will things play out when Richmond and Greater Western Sydney clash on Grand Final day?

Ahead of the massive game, read Mick McGuane’s ultimate preview to see exactly where both sides sit.

WHAT TO EXPECT — RICHMOND

CHAOS


Richmond loves chaos. It’s all about a surge mentality, keeping the ball in motion and moving it forward by any means possible. A tap on here, a kick off the ground there. Gaining metres at all costs is at the core of the game plan. The Tigers’ ball movement and ability to hurt teams off turnovers is also a strength and they are not afraid to use the corridor in transition. They try to get their forwards high up the ground and use speed from the likes of Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna, Kane Lambert and Dustin Martin to get back to goal. Plus, it helps your structure when you have a key target like Tom Lynch marking the ball like he was in the preliminary final.

IF I WERE RICHMOND …

Clearly I’d be maintaining the system that’s been successful over a long period and has delivered another Grand Final berth. But I’d also reserve judgment about some of the opposition’s best players if they do get off the chain. The big concern is who could be that run-with player given the injury cloud over Jack Graham? I’d be looking at Kane Lambert, who is very task-orientated, very disciplined and can run all day. The other key is the Jeremy Cameron match up, with the Coleman Medal winner in red-hot form. I think there will be a lot of mix-and-match there between Dylan Grimes, David Astbury and Nathan Broad. But I’d be starting Grimes on Cameron and sending David Astbury to Jeremy Finlayson.

THE X-FACTOR

One from left-field — Shai Bolton. He didn’t have a great preliminary final, but he has had a pretty good year. He’s got speed, breaks the lines, possesses great creativity with how he uses the ball and creates excitement. Bolton is averaging 1.4 score assists this season — second at the Tigers behind only Dustin Martin. He also averages 5.7 score involvements — the sixth-best at the club. That’s because he picks the best option when kicking inside-50 almost every time. Bolton can also hit the scoreboard himself and brings high levels of forward-half pressure — a key aspect of the modern game.

THE STAR

Dustin Martin. But is he injured? The thing about Dusty is he’s so predictable about where he plays. He’s won just 15 disposals in defensive-50 this year — accounting for three per cent of his overall output. He is a player who does his damage between the arcs and when he floats forward inside-50. He starts the game and quarters at centre-bounces before Kane Lambert rolls up and Dusty is given the creative licence to drift forward. When he’s a forward he still wins a lot of the ball and when he wins it through contested possession or ground ball, he hits the scoreboard.

THE CONCERN

Richmond’s reluctance to tag. The Tigers never tag. GWS do. If Jack Graham (shoulder) doesn’t get up, that becomes even more of a concern given he has been a player Damien Hardwick has tasked with carrying out some run-with roles in the past. Yes, Richmond is in the Grand Final because of its system. But Lachie Whitfield had a career-high 42 disposals and 10 score involvements against the Tigers in Round 3. If he, or others, do get off the chain again, wouldn’t you want to lock them down?

THE KEY

Scoring from their inside-50 entries. The Giants have been the best team at defending their defensive 50 all year and have a formidable backline with the likes of Phil Davis, Nick Haynes, Heath Shaw, Zac Williams and Aidan Corr. Against Collingwood in the preliminary final, GWS conceded just seven goals from 53 entries while also holding the Magpies goalless for 67 minutes in the middle stages of the match. When Richmond played the Giants back in Round 3, there was a period during the third quarter where the Tigers had all the ascendancy in the territory battle and had 12 of 15 inside-50 entries yet kicked just two goals to one. The Giants can absorb numbers like the Sydney of old, so the Tigers simply have to be at their efficient best and ensure they choose the best options.

THE CHALLENGE

The Tigers’ ability to stay in the contested game. They are coming up against a team that’s very good around stoppage and that generally translates to contested ball win. In the first half against Geelong in the preliminary final, Richmond lost the contested possession count by 14. But the difference in the second half was just six as the Tigers got themselves back in the game. Richmond is a team that does not have to win contested ball numbers, but they can’t allow GWS to dominate this facet of the game. They need to keep it close — a challenge given that across the season the Tigers are a bottom-two team for contested ball.

THE THEME

No regrets. The Tigers have been the best team for three years now. Coming away with only one premiership from that period of dominance won’t sit well. After a turbulent year which included a 7-6 start and the loss of Alex Rance among a host of other injury concerns, the Tigers have still managed to pull through and get their opportunity. Now they have to take it with both hands. And having won their past 11 games on the trot — including eight at the MCG — there are no excuses.

INJURIES


Jack Graham (shoulder) test

Nathan Broad (concussion) test

GWS — WHAT TO EXPECT

STOPPAGE SPECIALISTS

For the Giants, it’s all about their stoppage game. They rely on scoring from stoppages more than any other team in the competition. GWS led the AFL for clearances in the home-and-away season and have dominated that count in two of their three finals. They are a short-kicking side who is lethal by foot in transition from defence to attack and rank third in the competition for scoring once inside-50, hitting the scoreboard from 44.9 per cent of entries. The Giants are also a very good contested ball side and have won that count convincingly in two of their three finals, including against Collingwood in the preliminary final 164-148.

IF I WERE GWS …

I’d be tempted to send Matt De Boer to Dion Prestia. Everyone will think on the back of Round 3 — when De Boer shut down Martin and the Tiger was reported — that would be the logical match up again. But Prestia is a player who is in fantastic form, albeit largely flying under the radar given the focus on Martin, Shane Edwards and Trent Cotchin. Since the bye, Prestia has been the highest-rated player in the AFL, averaging 30 disposals and eight score involvements. If Dusty is sore or injured, it might be the perfect opportunity to give Prestia some close attention for the first time this year and something he probably wouldn’t even be expecting. Martin will likely spend significant time forward, anyway, and that’s where I’d be sending Sam Taylor to do a job on him.

THE X-FACTOR

Nick Haynes. We know he’s a star, but his influence on this game will be critical if the Giants are to prevail. GWS has to find a way to win the battle of the air against Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt and Haynes is as good as anyone in the competition at leaving his man and creating two-on-ones on opposition key forwards. What I like about Haynes is he knows when to spoil and kill the ball and when to back himself to take the mark. And when he does mark, more often than not, he hurts you with his ability to quickly rebound it back.

THE STAR


Toby Greene. Back in the team after a one-week suspension, he had a nervous wait from the sidelines in the preliminary final but is sure to have plenty of adrenaline built up now and you can bet he will be ready to explode. Last week’s media microscope won’t phase him one bit. This is the stage Toby Greene is made for and his last eight games of footy have been sublime. He’s a goalkicker, he’s a score involvement player, he’s physical and he makes those around him better. The Tigers will have to put plenty of work in to him.

THE CONCERN

Getting scored against behind the defence. We know the Tigers’ forwards like to push high up the ground and use their leg-speed through Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna, Kane Lambert and Dustin Martin to get back to goal. The GWS defenders need to be conscious of that fast-break footy and ensure they are not leaving an open paddock for the Tigers to run into over the back. A goal-keeper needs to be retained, which is generally Phil Davis or Heath Shaw.

THE KEY

Win from stoppages. The Giants rely on scoring from stoppages more than any other team on record. They clearly outscored Collingwood 29-8 from stoppages in their preliminary final and have the best scoring differential from stoppages of any team this year. Let’s not forget that the Magpies killed the Tigers from stoppages in last year’s preliminary final. So, Shane Mumford versus Toby Nankervis and Ivan Soldo is going to be critically important to the outcome of this match.

THE CHALLENGE

Stopping Tom Lynch. We all witnessed the show he put on against Geelong in the preliminary final against a very measly defence. The spearhead had a season-high 19 disposals and 10 marks and his bag of five goals was his second-best of the year. GWS are a very good intercept team, with Phil Davis and Nick Haynes ranking No. 1 and No. 3 in the competition for intercept marks. And Davis, who generally takes the opposition’s best forward, is a logical match-up for Lynch. But is he fit, after struggling with back and calf issues on the weekend? It’s a big job if he’s not 100 per cent.

THE THEME

Accuracy. The Giants need to continue to take their chances. They have won their past two finals with fewer scoring shots. Making the most of your chances is clearly huge in September and there is no pressure like scoreboard pressure. Conversion is one of the unheralded discussion points when it comes to the modern-day statistician, but it is still high on the agenda if you want to win premierships.

INJURIES

Stephen Coniglio (knee) test

Lachie Whitfield (appendix) test

Phil Davis (calf) test

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mick-mcguane-previews-the-afl-grand-final-between-richmond-and-gws/news-story/55580c11f05457d976fbf8e4473911a5
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2019, 01:38:18 PM
A hallmark of the Giants' footy during the finals series has been their physicality and aggression, successfully getting in the face of their opponents.

"For the whole year, we've focused pretty ruthlessly on what we can control. I think that's the mark of a good side, that even under pressure, they can execute their role. That's what finals footy is, there's a lot of pressure involved," Grimes said.

"What they bring, whether it's physicality or all kinds of things and tools in their kit-basket, we're going to keep doing what we've done every week and focus on us.

"We'll bring the heat and bring the pressure because that's the way we play. We do play a physical brand of footy, but that's not to say we're going to go out of our way to, as you said, fight fire with fire."

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-09-24/broad-graham-hit-the-training-track-in-bid-to-play
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 24, 2019, 07:53:18 PM
Stats Files: How will each team win the Grand Final?

AFL.com.au
Marc McGowan
Sep 24, 2019


SATURDAY'S AFL Grand Final will pit two teams with drastically different methods in 2017 premier Richmond and Greater Western Sydney against one another.

What they have in common is seriously significant star power at the top and an army of role players beneath them.

Without further ado, here are the questions and numbers that matter ahead of this year's decider.

What decided the clubs' two clashes this year?


Round three: Greater Western Sydney 19.11 (125) d Richmond 10.16 (76) at Giants Stadium

The Tigers lost Jayden Short seven minutes into the game and Trent Cotchin barely played in the final term, while Giant Tommy Sheridan appeared for only 15 minutes. GWS outscored Richmond by 44 points from turnovers – the Tigers' worst result this season – and its 89 points from this source were the most against Damien Hardwick's side. The Giants also scored from 51.7 per cent of their inside 50s, which was better than any Richmond opponent in 2019, and won 62 more uncontested possessions (fourth-worst for Tigers).

Round 17: Richmond 13.16 (94) d Greater Western Sydney 9.13 (67) at the MCG

Beating the Giants at their own game was the key here. The men in orange scored just 21 points from clearances (fourth-fewest in 2019) and from just 14 per cent of clearance wins (second-worst percentage in any game this season). On top of that, the Tigers scored from 26.5 per cent of their clearances, which equated to the equal-third-best percentage in any match this year. Richmond racked up 34 points from defensive-50 chains – its most this season and the highest number GWS conceded – while scoring from 49.2 per cent of inside 50s. That latter effort was the equal-second-best percentage by a Giants opponent.

Which player on each team has been the statistical star in September?


Brownlow medallist Dustin Martin might have been a bit hampered on Friday night, but he's been crucial in the Tigers' two finals wins. Martin's 9.5 score involvements per match and involvement in 40 per cent of scores are No.1 at Richmond. His average scoreboard impact of 29 points is second in the finals behind only Eagle Jamie Cripps' 29.5. Fast-rising onballer Jacob Hopper is proving to be the Giants' Mr September. Hopper ranks first at GWS for disposals (25.7), contested possessions (15.7) and clearances (5.7) during the finals.

Who are the unsung heroes?


Richmond

David Astbury: Has won 40 per cent of his defensive one-on-one contests, ranked eighth of the top-75 one-on-one defenders.

Nick Vlastuin: The Tigers defender has amassed the fourth-most intercepts in the AFL this season.

Jason Castagna: His 36 forward-50 groundball-gets this year ranked equal 25th in comp.

Greater Western Sydney


Brent Daniels: Has more goal assists than any other player this year and ranks 16th for forward-50 groundball-gets.

Heath Shaw: The ex-Pie's been outmarked in only three of his 51 defensive one-on-one contests this season, which is the eighth-best result of the top-75 one-on-one defenders.

Matt De Boer: His 10 centre clearances during the finals is the equal-most of any footballer.

What difference will Toby Greene, Lachie Whitfield and Stephen Coniglio make?

Greene (suspension) is certain to return, reigning club champion Whitfield (appendicitis) is highly likely to and Coniglio is a 50-50 shot. That's an enormous amount of quality potentially coming into the Greater Western Sydney line-up on Grand Final day. They are all influential in generating the Giants' scoring opportunities when they play.

Which Tiger should Giants stopper Matt de Boer tag?

De Boer is the AFL's No.1 tagger and kept Dustin Martin to 15 goalless touches in round three but was absent for the round 17 rematch. Martin's frustration boiled over to the point he was suspended for an off-the-ball strike to de Boer's teammate Adam Kennedy. The 2017 Brownlow and Norm Smith medallist is the most common tagging target at Punt Road. He's had six 40-plus-minute match-ups this season and his output is 40 per cent down on those occasions. On the other hand, Dion Prestia – another potential option for de Boer's attention – has had only two such match-ups, against Luke Parker and Liam Shiels. Interestingly, Prestia performed 75 per cent better than usual in those circumstances. The only other Tiger to cop a tag in 2019 was Shane Edwards, who comfortably handled Blue Ed Curnow.

Will Richmond's turnover talents or the Giants' stoppage superiority prevail?

As pointed out at the top, these teams succeed in very different ways. Richmond generates 65.6 per cent of its scores from turnovers (No.1 in the AFL), whereas GWS scores just 51 per cent from this source (18th). The Giants make up for that by producing 45 per cent of their points from clearances (No.1) compared to the Tigers' 31 per cent (18th). Richmond has won all 13 games when it outscored the opposition from clearances and is 16 from 17 in matches where they rack up more points from turnovers than its rival. GWS' respective numbers are 14 from 16 and 11 from 11.

Game winning percentages

SCENARIO   SCORE MORE FROM TURNOVERS   SCORE MORE FROM CLEARANCES

2019                          82.4%                                        76.3%
Finals 2015-19            84.1%                                        83.3%

How can Greater Western Sydney win?

In simple terms, the Giants' hopes will skyrocket if they are up at quarter-time. They have a perfect record from 11 games this season when they lead at the first break. GWS is also unbeaten in 2019 when it: outscores the opposition from turnovers (11 matches), has more metres gained (13) and scores more accurately (10). Other key performance indicators for the Giants are higher disposal efficiency (11 wins from 12 contests) and out-pressuring the opposition (10 from 11).

How can Richmond win?


Sobering for the Giants' record when they have a fast start is the fact the Tigers have won 15 of 16 games when they win the second quarter and all 14 times they've won the third term. The 'premiership' quarter could be pivotal, with Richmond having a 3-7 record when it loses that period. Away from the quarter-based statistics, the Tigers are unbeaten when they: have more metres gained (16 matches), outscore the opposition from clearances (13), and win more disposals (12), uncontested possessions (11), contested possessions (six) and clearances (four).

Statistics provided by Champion Data

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-24/stats-files-how-will-each-team-win-the-grand-final
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 24, 2019, 08:03:49 PM
I love how they write articles about which decent player their poxy sniper players need to take out of the game, classy stuff.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2019, 01:29:59 AM
The AFL website is tipping us to win by just over 2 goals.

Mega-preview: Grand Final, Richmond v Greater Western Sydney

AFL.com.au
Sarah Black
Sep 24, 2019


SUMMARY

Not many people tipped this as the Grand Final match-up at the start of the year, and even fewer thought it would happen mid-season when both clubs were beset by injuries. Richmond dropped as low as ninth before the bye, but has won an astonishing 11 consecutive games, the second-best streak in club history. Greater Western Sydney has done it the hard way to qualify for the Grand Final, finishing sixth and defeating the Western Bulldogs, Brisbane and Collingwood on the way to the decider. Both sides play high-pressure games with fierce tackling a feature, meaning composure will be the key to premiership glory.

WHERE AND WHEN:
MCG, Saturday, September 28, 2.30pm AEST

WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR?

Round 17: Richmond 13.16 (94) d GWS 9.13 (67) at the MCG

Richmond was the closest it had been to full-strength to that point of the season, while GWS lost important playmaker Stephen Coniglio to a knee injury. The Tigers got off to a hot start, keeping the Giants to just two points in the first term while kicking four goals of their own, and were never headed.

Round 3:
GWS 19.11 (125) d Richmond 10.16 (76) at Giants Stadium

It was the Jeremy show as Cameron and Finlayson combined for a whopping 12 goals against an undermanned Richmond defence. The Giants kicked six goals to two in the second term to break the game apart. Matt De Boer comfortably nullified Dustin Martin, while Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia battled hard.

LAST FIVE TIMES

Rd 17, 2019, Richmond 13.16 (94) d GWS 9.13 (67) at the MCG
Rd 3, 2019, GWS 19.11 (125) d Richmond 10.16 (76) at Giants Stadium
Rd 17, 2018, GWS 11.13 (79) d Richmond 10.17 (77) at Giants Stadium
2PF, 2017, Richmond 15.13 (103) d GWS 9.13 (67) at the MCG
Rd 18, 2017, Richmond 9.10 (64) d GWS 6.9 (45) at the MCG

WHAT TO WATCH FOR


Richmond

1. The influence of the classy Shane Edwards (16th overall in AFL Player Ratings) in crucial moments. He is often thrown in the middle when the game needs a spark. Watch his hands closely, he has a tendency to set up teammates in space with clever flicks and handballs.

2. Richmond's forward-line set-up is a changing beast, with one of Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt or Dustin Martin as the deepest forward. The constant movement can often catch opposition defences off-guard and force mismatches.

3. The Tigers are statistically the worst clearance side, averaging 34 a match, while the Giants are the best with 42. Richmond is used to playing this way, backing its strong defence to rebound and set up attacking forays.

Greater Western Sydney

1. Richmond may pride itself on its strong defensive unit, but the Giants' is potentially even better. Phil Davis, Nick Haynes, Sam Taylor and Heath Shaw are all strong intercept markers and work well as a unit to cover each other's players.

2. Jeremy Cameron (58th overall in the AFL Player Ratings) has had a strong recent record against Richmond, booting 10 goals from 49 disposals in two matches this year. He missed the 2017 preliminary final between these two sides with a hamstring complaint.

3. The Giants are one of the best running sides in the competition, and have good depth in the area too, as evidenced by Zac Williams' successful stint on the wing in the preliminary final. Lachie Whitfield is also poised to return from appendix surgery.

THE MATCH-UP

Dustin Martin v Matt De BoerMartin was rattled in round three, lashing out and striking Adam Kennedy while being held to just 15 disposals by De Boer. The Giant was sidelined with a collarbone injury the last time the two sides met, with Martin jumping to 25 touches.

IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR…


Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)

An uncharacteristically quiet prelim from the Tigers spearhead, missing two late goals with poor set shots, but he did set up several majors for teammates. Riewoldt will be champing at the bit to get on the scoreboard in the biggest game of all.

Toby Greene (GWS)

All eyes are on Toby (pun intended) on his return from a contentious one-week suspension. When Greene is at his best, he is one of the most damaging players in the competition, but he also has a self-destructive streak.

BIG CALL


Bachar Houli was unlucky to miss the 2017 Norm Smith and is currently in red-hot form, cherry ripe for a best-on-ground performance.

PREDICTION: Richmond by 14 points

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-24/megapreview-grand-final-richmond-v-greater-western-sydney
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2019, 01:09:24 PM
The media saying Whitfield and Coniglio trained today for the Giants but Phil Davis was still missing.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 25, 2019, 02:03:02 PM
Smoke and mirrors, all of it.

Davis will play. As will Whitfield. Coniglio a maybe IMO.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Gracie on September 25, 2019, 02:08:42 PM
Hope they all play. Hope they have all their stars out there.

That is the challenge. beat their best and no excuses.

And taking three players in who have injury concerns could back fire.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
Coniglio has been ruled out by GWS.

Source: SEN.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2019, 02:18:20 PM
Coniglio has been ruled out by GWS.

Source: SEN.
Confirmed.

https://twitter.com/GWSGIANTS/status/1176711112374571010
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 25, 2019, 02:21:48 PM
Well, we're missing Rance. Doubt they'd wanna play us with him in the side...
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on September 25, 2019, 04:25:33 PM
Part of me was hoping they'd play him. I'd say he'd have been every chance to do his knee like he did last time we played em.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: big tone on September 25, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
Their club is in pretty good shape IMO with blokes like Coniglio as a leader.

Massively hard unselfish call by him.

I hope one day he gets to play in a premiership but it wasn’t going to be this year.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Slipper on September 25, 2019, 10:02:50 PM
Their club is in pretty good shape IMO with blokes like Coniglio as a leader.

Massively hard unselfish call by him.

I hope one day he gets to play in a premiership but it wasn’t going to be this year.

For once I fully agree with you.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2019, 10:21:18 PM
Legends jury: Can ‘will to win’ lift Giants to grand boilover?

Jon Anderson
Herald Sun
26 September 2019


To discover the key components of Saturday’s AFL Grand Final, we invited four men with 10 premierships between them to look at their respective areas of expertise.

And while the quartet — Chris Johnson, Cameron Ling, Simon Madden and Paul Salmon — have all tipped Richmond, each is giving the Giants a genuine chance.

Who does Matt de Boer tag?

Ling:
“Dusty can own a game so if you can reduce that influence, you may be able to sow a tiny bit of doubt. So Matt de Boer goes to him, full stop. If Dusty goes forward, then maybe de Boer rolls onto Dion Prestia at times although you have to be wary of overcooking de Boer for when Dusty comes back on the ball.”

Where can the Giants win it?


Ling: “I give them a chance because of what they’ve discovered in this finals series which is heart and soul, scrap and fight plus the will to win. When you combine that with the obvious skill and talent they have, then certainly they have a chance in a stoppage and contested-based game. I believe in the way they’re playing in this finals series. But I still can’t tip them.”

Where could GWS lose it?


Ling:
“They are going to have to maintain their way of playing for the entire game, because as soon as Richmond breaks it a little bit their way, it can break very badly for a 20-minute patch given their relentless swarming. Geelong found that out in the second half. And will the Giants’ sore bodies allow them to maintain the required pressure?”

How do the ruck contests pan out?

Madden: “Toby Nankervis was very influential for Richmond in their 2017 premiership (18 possessions, 28 hit-outs) but he isn’t in that form now due to a limited preparation. It comes down to hit-outs to advantage. You know with Nankervis that he won’t be intimidated by Shane Mumford. The reality is neither is in career-best form, so it comes down to who can find something extra on the day.”

Has Shane Mumford enough left in the tank?


Madden: “He’s been good rather than great. He still works really hard and I like the fact he likes to impose himself on the opposition. The difference is he isn’t opposed by Brodie Grundy this week, or even Stefan Martin for that matter. Richmond’s Ivan Soldo is the wild-card. I’m tipping Richmond due to their previous finals experience.”

Who has the better back six?

Johnson: “Richmond has an extremely well-oiled and ruthless defence, a back seven who hurt you hard through the corridor if you turn the ball over. They keep wanting to attack through the corridor and they know when to go and when not to go.”

How will the Tigers test the GWS defence?

Johnson: “Richmond will have learnt from the GWS-Lions game, when Brisbane came in high and long which played into the GWS hands. I think if it comes in fast and low, it could be a struggle for the GWS defence, and that’s how Richmond brings it in. I would love to see the Giants win their first flag but I think the Tigers have the experience and form.”

Is Tom Lynch the offensive difference?

Salmon: “The ball carriers see Tom Lynch first and he can attract it long which can cause more hurt. So much comes down to how Phil Davis plays on Lynch. And then you have Dustin Martin floating in. We wondered how the Richmond forward line would look with Lynch as distinct from 2017? It took a little while but is now just where they want it to be, with Jack Riewoldt playing the perfect secondary role.”

Where can the GWS forwards hurt the Tigers?

Salmon:
“In two games this year Jeremy Cameron has had 50 possessions and 20 shots on goal for 10 goals against the Tigers. And then you have a couple of 195cm-196cm blokes in Jeremy Finlayson and Harry Himmelberg who are extremely mobile. That will ensure the Tigers have to be more accountable. There’s every chance one will cause Richmond some pain and Himmelberg might be the sleeper. They are their weapon, three players who aren’t questioning their roles. My tip is Richmond by two or three goals.”

THE FINAL WORD

Jon Anderson:
There’s a line from Martin Scorsese’s 1995 movie classic Cas-ino, in which diminutive psychopath Nicky Santoro (played by Joe Pesci) observes: “It’s the dollars, always the dollars.” Swing forward to Saturday’s game and Santoro’s equivalent would surely observe: “It’s the supply, always the supply”. And the supply to forward-line superstars Tom Lynch and Jeremy Cameron comes from their respective midfields, so whoever wins that battle will win the game, simple as that. And guess what, GWS has the midfield resources to win that war.

GWS by 17 points.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/four-grand-final-legends-dissect-the-2019-afl-grand-final/news-story/279c12e4fe80cca9da59fa813f57555d

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2019, 10:24:10 PM
But in true Melbourne fashion, it should be all clear at the ’G on Saturday.

”It should dry up for (the) Grand Final,” Mr Carlyon said.

“It will be a cold start to Grand Final day with an early morning temperature of 6C.

“It looks like a dry day in Melbourne on Saturday — fairly cool, slightly cloudy and warming up to a top of 16C.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/weather-to-hold-off-for-grand-final-blockbuster-parade-to-be-hit-by-rain/news-story/33dcd8423d0d3bd55ae9f98c6c8ab42d
Title: Tigers investment about to pay off: Alastair Lynch (Courier Mail)
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2019, 01:56:31 AM
Tigers investment about to pay off

Alastair Lynch
The Courier-Mail
26 September 2019


When GWS hung on to defeat Collingwood in their pulsating preliminary final to advance to their breakthrough grand final, the initial thoughts of many footy fans would have been — this is exactly what the AFL didn’t want.

There is no doubt a Richmond-Collingwood grand final match-up would have been one for the ages, not to mention the massive financial windfall two traditional Victorian clubs would deliver.

But it didn’t take long to realise GWS’ first appearance on the final Saturday in September has provided some legitimacy to the AFL’s bold expansion plans of 2011 and 2012, a move that still has scores of critics across the country.

Poor crowds in western Sydney, even when the Giants are going well, and the ongoing struggles of the Suns has made the league’s expansion plans an easy target for criticism, especially when nine years on the competition is still funding the experiment.

But Queenslanders will know from experience that even through Brisbane had played in multiple finals series in 1990s, it was the Lions’ premierships of the early 2000s that truly cemented the club here in the Sunshine State.

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Western Sydney is a vastly different environment in that doesn’t boast the numbers of expat Victorians that Queensland has, and there is a long way to go before the Giants can stand on their own two feet financially.

But a premiership will work wonders.

Expansion has always been about the long game. The Giants and Suns were never expected to instantly convert lifelong adult fans of the rugby codes to our game, but to win the hearts and minds of their kids.

If the Giants can take a premiership cup back to Sydney with them this weekend you could expect a huge boost to Auskick enrolments the following year.

Unfortunately, it would also increase the pressure on the Suns, who are a year older and had what was supposedly the easier task of gaining traction on the Gold Coast, which has a pretty strong history in our game and has had a monopoly on the QAFL premierships for years now.

However, GWS’ success this season and Brisbane’s for that matter, also provide proof of what can be achieved with the right decisions.

Which is why although I’m tipping a Richmond win on Saturday, part of me can’t help but hope for a Giants win.

Here’s where I think the game will be decided.

RICHMOND

HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY

They are the ultimate system-based side. Sides have found this year they have managed to gain the ascendancy in a key area of the game only to find the Tigers’ system grind them down. It happened to Brisbane twice. The Tigers will give you a chance but you won’t get two. Geelong found that in the preliminary final when they failed to make the most of their opportunities when momentum was in their favour in the second term. The Tigers don’t dominate the stoppages but they win it back across half back from opposition kicks better than anyone, then deploying what looks like a basketball three-man weave up the ground with handball before surging it into their attack where their big forwards always provide a contest.

X-FACTOR

It doesn’t really matter which one, because they are so interchangeable, but they need one of their big forwards to have a strong game. Tom Lynch was the difference in the preliminary final and I think he is the man. It is not a common occurrence for key forwards to be kicking big numbers of goals in a grand final but under the pressure only a premiership decider can bring, you need someone who can take a big contested mark to take the pressure off.

THE GAMBLE

Who comes in for Jack Graham? Jack Ross and Kamdyn McIntosh were rested from the VFL grand final signalling they are the two obvious candidates for selection with the seven-gamer Ross most likely after last playing in round 22. Then there is Marlion Pickett. Could the Tigers take the ultimate gamble and give the 27 year old mid-season draft pick-up an AFL debut in a grand final after being best on ground in the VFL last week?

WHO THEY MUST STOP

Toby Greene is the Giants most important player because he wins the ball, sets up so much of their offence and also kicks goals himself.

THEIR VULNERABILITY

GWS are one of the best clearance teams in the competition and the Tigers must be sure they don’t give them too many opportunities to use the ball well into their forward 50.


GWS GIANTS

HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY

They are so good at winning the footy at the source and that gives them the confidence to be more selective with their ball use moving forward. There has been a change during the finals to be prepared to use the ball slower and straighter out of their back half. Rather than the typical play on and switch that we’ve seen for a majority of the season.

Their kicks inside 50 will be critical. They need their class to stand up to the pressure of grand final day and I think they are capable of doing that. They are mostly elite kids who appear to have been built for this type of occasion. Along with the different defensive half ball movement the Giants have lifted their intensity at the ball and the opposition compared to late in the home and away season. They singled out Bontempelli and Neale in their first two finals and it worked. They may target Prestia this week.

X-FACTOR

Zac Williams was swung into the midfield with Whitfield and Greene out and starred. I think he has to stay there. He has that speed that can break a game open. GWS will win the footy but their ability to break away from stoppages will be important and Williams can be so damaging in that situation. People accept that Dustin Martin doesn’t defend well out of stoppages so that is an area GWS can potentially exploit.

THE GAMBLE

The doctor has a big day ahead of him. He has got to make calls on the availability of Lachie Whitfield coming off surgery to his appendix, and skipper Phil Davis who is also beaten up and was forced to play forward against the Pies. Can they carry them all into a grand final?

WHO THEY MUST STOP

Dustin Martin. He had a quiet start against Brisbane when he was well held in the midfield only to go forward and tear the game apart. Matt De Boer can do the job in the middle with his discipline to stick to his task and not ball watch but they have a headache when Martin goes forward.

THEIR VULNERABILITY

Their strength is the big marking forwards but if they are well held, it can become a major problem because the Tigers can surge so well via smaller rebounding defenders.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/alastair-lynch-tom-lynch-can-reward-richmonds-investment-by-inspiring-premiership-win/news-story/8c26072104a7e9c0106203786c5b6274
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2019, 11:25:45 AM
Tom Browne @TomBrowne7

Phil Davis now fits into the serious question mark category. Probably the biggest footy grand final story so far today in my opinion. Sources are worried the pool session / back pain might be related to management of the calf too.


https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2019, 12:47:37 PM
Who should Matt de Boer tag in Saturday's Grand Final?

By SEN
26 Sep 2019


SEN Breakfast host Garry Lyon has crunched the numbers of Richmond’s Dustin Martin and Dion Prestia, in order to shed some light on who Matt de Boer should tag in Saturday’s Grand Final.

De Boer tagged Martin when the Giants faced the Tigers in Round 3, but Lyon is suggesting Prestia could be a real option on Saturday.

“Prestia’s been extraordinary since the bye,” he said on SEN Breakfast.

“This is why the argument is made for Prestia.

“From the AFL rankings, this is in the competition, (he is ranked) six for disposals, three for metres gained, 17 for clearances, four for score involvements and 14 for pressure.

“They’re the numbers that the Giants footy club is looking at right now and working out where de Boer goes.

“Don’t, for one second, underestimate the Prestia influence.

“Don’t for one second underestimate how important he’s been for that footy club.”

Essendon great Tim Watson understands why Prestia is in the conversation, but believes Martin is the obvious choice because “he’s the most destructive player in Richmond’s team.”

Lyon outlined how de Boer quelled Martin's influence in GWS' 49-point win over Richmond in Round 3.

“Round 3, he got under Dustin’s skin,” Lyon said.

“Kept him to season-low ranking points,second fewest touches, second fewest contested possessions, second fewest metres gained and the lowest goals and assists for the season.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/26/who-should-matt-de-boer-tag-in-saturdays-grand-final/
Title: Richmond wary of Giants' Dusty silencer (Nine)
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2019, 01:38:00 PM
Richmond wary of Giants' Dusty silencer

By Anna Harrington
wwos.NINE.com.au
26 September 2019


Richmond forward Jason Castagna says the Tigers will be out to look after any of their midfielders who cop a tough tag in Saturday's AFL grand final.

In round three, GWS tagger Matt de Boer restricted Dustin Martin to 15 disposals and got under his skin, with the star Tiger suspended for striking Adam Kennedy off the ball and also fined for flipping the bird and making snorting gestures.

"(It's) maybe not so much a lesson but more a reminder that we need to look after our blokes," Castagna told AAP.

"And if Dusty's getting tagged or if it's Cotch (Trent Cotchin) or whoever, then we'll just look out for them and give them the support they need."

The Giants forced their way into the grand final with three aggressive performances but Castagna said the Tigers were prepared for whatever their opponent threw at them.

"They've looked like they've kind of really tried to physically impose themselves during the finals, so we'll expect that again," he said.

"And I'm sure we'll deal with it fine, I'm just looking forward to the challenge."

The Tigers had to grind through a tough preliminary final against Geelong and Castagna said that gritty performance would hold them in good stead for Saturday.

"I think we've definitely looked at it as a positive thing - having a tough game before the grand final," he said.

"I think having a real grind and having them get the jump on us early and then us fighting back will just give us belief if we find ourselves in that position again that we can come back and win."

In 2017 Castagna was in his first consistent AFL season when he found himself caught up in a remarkable ride to a breakthrough premiership.

Now he's part of a team that experienced disappointment in 2018 and is hungry for redemption.

"It feels good this time around. It seems like it was a lot harder - that prelim was a real grind and I guess being there in 2017, (then) missing 2018, I realised it's not that easy. I'm really pumped to be there again," he said.

"I've learned a heap. I guess 2017 (was) my first consistent year of footy - I was just trying to cement my spot and a flag came up.

"But another two years under my belt, I feel a lot more poised and ready to take the finals on and a grand final."

https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/tigers-ready-to-deal-with-giants-tagger/c41cfe92-835a-4e33-a559-335b0ceb8a20
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2019, 02:34:58 PM
Tom Browne @TomBrowne7

Phil Davis now fits into the serious question mark category. Probably the biggest footy grand final story so far today in my opinion. Sources are worried the pool session / back pain might be related to management of the calf too.


https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7
Giants' footy manager Cambo has said Whitfield and Davis will play.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on September 26, 2019, 02:49:52 PM
Elbows to Whitfield's guts. knees to Davis' calves, bumps to his shoulders....#noholdsbarred :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2019, 04:36:09 PM
Giants captain Phil Davis on the the flight to Melbourne. Playing gear in tow @7NewsMelbourne #AFLGF.

https://twitter.com/_AMcCormack7
Title: The two young Giants that Richmond must not underestimate (SEN)
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 02:47:38 AM
The two young Giants that Richmond must not underestimate

By SEN
26 Sep 2019


Terry Wallace has pinpointed GWS pair Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper as players Richmond must not underestimate in the Grand Final.

The two young Giants have had breakout years, both averaging over 26 disposals a game.

"Tiger fans out there, don’t whatever you do underestimate their two young midfielders who have now become stars – they’re stars of the game," Wallace told SEN Afternoons.

"We’re talking about Jacob Hopper and we’re talking about Tim Taranto. If you look at their numbers, they are now absolutely living up with the elite midfielders – the absolute best midfielders in the competition.

"Don’t underestimate them whatever you do."

Wallace believes the Tigers will need to negate their impact in certain areas to get on top in the midfield battle.

“They are super strong in winning their own footy,” Wallace said.

“Taranto can do it both ways, he is an overlap player, who is a high inside 50 number player. Hopper is more your (Patrick) Cripps type … he’s the really combative one.”

“For Richmond, Hopper is dangerous at the coalface because that is a major strength of GWS over Richmond is clearance.

“Taranto is a danger, he is damaging and he will get inside 50 and high inside 50 numbers if not looked after well enough. He will supply (Jeremy) Cameron, (Harry) Himmelberg and (Jeremy) Finlayson if given opportunities.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/26/the-two-young-giants-that-richmond-need-to-stop/
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 27, 2019, 08:05:03 AM
Gee I like that Hopper. Great player!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: eliminator on September 27, 2019, 08:55:40 AM
The Giants have a very good midfield. Definitely need to curb it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 27, 2019, 11:30:00 AM
To curb there influence we need to bring the heat with our pressure and tackle count forward through to midfield. Don't give them clean ball and time to built.Force them wide to.If we need to tag someone who do we use ?.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 27, 2019, 01:16:27 PM
I heard a whisper that we may spring a late change
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 01:27:54 PM
Phil Davis did nothing at their training today. He hasn't trained all week.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 06:21:00 PM
I heard a whisper that we may spring a late change
Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news said our preparation has been smooth and we'll go in as selected.

Ch 10 news said the Giants are giving Davis up until the start of the game before making the call. Keefe to replace him if there's a change. However, Tom Browne on Ch 7 said Davis gave him the "thumbs up" so he expects Davis to play even though Davis did nothing at their training session today and wasn't even wearing footy boots.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 27, 2019, 06:57:57 PM
Pretty pumped we are there again folks, bit unreal really, didn't even think we were a sniff after all the injuries.  Last year I thought we were a pretty good shot but this year I thought we would be watching two other teams, and the Giants weren't one of them either.
Title: Ivan Drago Giants ready to KO Rocky Balboa Tigers: Brereton (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 08:18:50 PM
Ivan Drago Giants ready to KO Rocky Balboa Tigers

Dermott Brereton
Herald Sun
27 September 2019


The Giants reached their first two preliminary finals that way.

They were better than the opposition that the Premiers — Western Bulldogs in 2016 and Richmond in 2017 — faced on Grand Final day.

And the young Giants of ‘17 were not overawed playing in front of 94,000 mainly Tigers fans at the MCG.

Their core players haven’t lost their talent, it’s just that this time they have made their way through the final series with raw power and real grunt.

They have bashed and crashed their way to this Grand Final.

In the past four games, they increased their physical output each time they stepped on to the park.

If it increases again, look out.

If Richmond are the Rocky Balboa of the league, the Giants have stepped back into the ring as Ivan Drago.

With Lachie Whitfield’s return from keyhole surgery last week for appendicitis, the Giants will field six players who were originally selected inside the top 10 in their respective draft years.

Add Jeremy Cameron to that list because of his status pre-draft — 17-year-old access selection — and they have seven top-10 draft picks.

The talent is there, no doubt. But what might surprise a few is six players started as humble rookies.

Don’t just think of the Giants as white-collar workers. They have more than their fair share of players who did it the hard way.

I had the privilege of working with the young Giants forwards in the early years and I was annoyed by the frequent trash talk in the media.

Melbourne media described a group of spoiled brats who had been handed a cushy lifestyle and an easy entry pass to AFL success.

Rumours suggested they were comfortable with themselves.

Those rumour-mongers didn’t see these kids front up to training to learn each week after 15-goal losses each game. Each week I’d see these kids, see their emotions and see their self-confidence had been walloped.

I’d talk about what they needed to keep doing and how they could train various techniques into their repertoire that would benefit them in the short and long-term.

You could see their spirits rise, see them try the next weekend, and see the team fail again by another big margin.

The next training run, the entire process would start again. And through its unique circumstance, these talented kids have learned resilience.

All the way through were two youngsters who did not like losing. Not that anyone does, but these two hated it with a passion.

And they played with a 1970s mentality that if you played against them and beat them, they would try to do something to you that would make you think twice the next time you played them.

One was named Jeremy and the other was Toby.

I would tell my media mates long before his first suspension that Jeremy Cameron will be no stranger to the tribunal.

And my mates would ask how this first-year kid Toby Greene, playing in the middle for the Giants, so good at finding the footy?

I’d tell them Toby’s a little different to your average 18-year-old. He’s got swagger and he fears nothing. Not a thing.

Those two young men have grown into warriors who happen to have real class as footballers.

I have always had a soft spot for the Tigers. I donated back in the day to the Save Our

Skins Appeal and I have loved watching the Tigers over the past six or seven seasons.

It’s hard not to love a rags-to-riches story.

Inspired by their journey, I bought a Tigers membership a couple of years ago even though they had a habit of exiting in the first week of the finals.

But now they are the competition’s pacesetters.

I have loved seeing these young Giants become men and now they are being rewarded for all their efforts.

To see young lads grow up and into their dreams is as fulfilling for me as it is for former Giants football manager Graeme ‘Gubby’ Allan.

Many others contributed to the rise of the Giants, but he has his fingerprints all over this club.

The Tigers are starting as warm favourites.

But, just like in the movie, if Richmond is the Rocky Balboa of this game and ends up beating the GWS as Ivan Drago, it just might take such a beating like Rocky did, that he might never fully recover.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/dermott-brereton-ivan-drago-giants-can-ko-rocky-balboa-tigers-even-if-they-lose-grand-final/news-story/14a790dadc59b6dadf6bc2f1e388aae6
Title: Six battles that will decide the Grand Final: David King (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 08:25:09 PM
Six battles that will decide the Grand Final

David King
Herald Sun
28 September 2019


Richmond and the GWS have outplayed and outlasted 16 rivals to have a crack at being crowned Premiers. But there’s no silver medallist in AFL — it’s winner take all.

Here are my six “premiership points” that could dictate the result in the final 120 minutes of the season.

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HAND v FOOT

Will Richmond’s forward-handball game beat the Giants’ pure kicking dexterity? Who will execute more effectively under Grand Final pressure?

Clearly handballing is easier and, while inviting harassment from the Giants, the Tigers have mastered exiting tight, overcrowded or congested spaces.

The Giants’ long kicking will need to avoid Dylan Grimes and company, who will hold their positions across the half back flank.

The Giants’ counter-attack kicking game is aggressive and spectacular in full flight. Lachie Whitfield and Zac Williams are not your standard midfielders and if given time and space they’ll separate this game.

The teams possess different ball movement methodology, but the Tigers have the AFL’s most scores created from the defensive half. Richmond “runs and guns” like no other.

CLEARANCES

IT’S a case of “Operation 31”. The Giants are six losses and three wins when they’ve scored 31 points or less from stoppages, yet they’re 13 wins and three losses when they score more than 31 points from stoppages. It’s a simple equation.

Either the Giants continue with their clearance weaponry and have success, or the Tigers force them to find another way to score. And if they can’t, it’s Tiger time.

The Giants score heavily from clearances and average 10 points a game more than their direct opponent.

Jacob Hopper, Tim Taranto and Matt De Boer will be face-to-face with Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia and Dustin Martin. But it’s Whitfield and Williams at first handball receive positions off clearance who do the real damage.

Expect Dan Rioli and Shai Bolton to be sweating on them as they roll up from their half-forward positions.

Richmond’s clearance game isn’t a priority for coach Damien Hardwick, but it must defend lost clearances like never before. If Richmond wins the clearances, it will win the game.

But Richmond has only won the clearance battle four times this season.

TURNOVERS

THIS time it’s “Operation 36”. The Tigers are the AFL’s most difficult team to move the football against as they consistently force their opposition to turn it over.

Since Round 15, Richmond has scored 63 of its 98-point average from turnovers from forward-half pressure.

Richmond is comfortably No. 1 in the competition in this category.

Geelong’s plan last week was to force the Tigers to find another way of scoring by conceding only 24 points on exiting the defensive half with safer, slower ball use.

That was a two-goal saving on Richmond’s 34-point average, which doesn’t sound significant, but is considerable in a small-margin game.

The Tigers were 15 wins from 16 games when they got more than 36 points from forward-half turnovers. Yet, they were three wins from eight games when they had 36 points or fewer.

If GWS cannot control the football exiting its defensive end, shut the gate.

CAMERON’S CLAMPS

GWS coach Leon Cameron supposedly coaches for talent. But make no mistake, he refuses to allow the opposition’s elite talent to perform on their own terms.

“Cameron’s Clamps” have become a major factor in the Giants’ recent success.

De Boer’s scalps in the past month are Lachie Neale, Marcus Bontempelli and Scott Pendlebury, who were kept to season-low disposal tallies. Prestia is in for a tough day.

The roles of Harry Perryman and Adam Kennedy as pseudo-taggers with a defensive mindset have been understated. They remain actively involved when GWS has possession. Shane Edwards and Bachar Houli are prime candidates for the pseudo taggers.

PREMIERSHIP QUARTER

THE start is critical for belief and the opportunity to commit a matchwinning lead, but it’s just as important to restart after the main break.

The “Premiership Quarter” has always been the third term in the Grand Final.

The winner of the third term in the past five years has won the flag.

The Tigers outscored Brisbane and Geelong by four and five goals respectively over the past two outings — after the halftime break. The Giants smashed Collingwood at the clearance to reap a four-goal to zero third quarter last Saturday.

THE MOMENTS

EVERY Grand Final has moments that matter more than others. The Matthew Scarlett toe poke, Leo Barry’s intercept mark or Jeremy McGovern’s dare to create late in the Grand Final last year.

There’ll be opportunities for more legacy moments on Saturday. The game now gives star players more chances to be that player. It might be Martin or Cotchin, but I get the feeling Toby Greene will create another.

The climax to our season will be a cracker.

Will it be the regimented yet ruthless Richmond, or the big sound from Sydney’s west?

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/david-king-breaks-down-the-six-key-battles-that-will-decide-the-grand-final/news-story/52ee4f67edb3495cbce042dcb481360c
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 10:56:52 PM
Hodge: Giants’ own ‘kill the shark’ moment

Luke Hodge
Herald Sun
28 September 2019


For our group at Hawthorn in 2008, it was ‘Kill the Shark’.

The phrase was coined by coach Alastair Clarkson, who famously drew a shark on the whiteboard before the Grand Final against Geelong, a metaphor for explaining how to stifle the Cats’ constant movement.

For Greater Western Sydney on Saturday, it’s ‘Tame the Tiger’.

The Giants’ challenges are slightly different, but the similarities to 2008 are stark.

Like our Hawthorn side that year, GWS enter this 2019 decider against Richmond as a major underdog.

The same as us in 2008, the Giants suffered a Round 17 loss to the team they are coming up against in the Grand Final.

Similar to Geelong in 2008, Richmond has been the best team throughout the season.

Just like us in 2008, the Giants have not been to the big dance before.

But we entered that Grand Final with a lot of confidence and GWS will do the same.

Any time you go into a Grand Final, you know it is a two-horse race.

You don’t care what anyone outside the four walls of the club says.

You don’t care that all the expert tipsters give you no chance.

Round 3 is a long time ago, but Giants’ coach Leon Cameron would be telling his team they have beaten Richmond this year — and this is ours.

Cameron would be saying that if they play as a team and make sure they are doing all the selfless one-percenters, the result will look after itself.

They’ll be sitting back giving themselves a big chance.

GWS went through worse two years ago — playing in the 2017 preliminary final against Richmond at the MCG in front of 94,000 Tigers fans.

This crowd is going to be more on their side because everyone loves an underdog.

For the Giants, it’s all about the first 10 minutes of the game.

Grand Finals are about the team that settles fastest.

There’s fumbles and skill errors early because everyone at the ground — players, umpires and supporters — is nervous.

So whoever can settle down first from that and kick their game into gear has a distinct advantage.

It’s also about bringing the physical, aggressive style that GWS has shown in its first three finals.

He won’t be out there on the field, but Callan Ward’s influence on the Giants is clear to see.

Since day 1 when he arrived from the Western Bulldogs, you can see he has drilled into teammates that they have to be a hard, physical team — because that’s the type of player he is. And the Giants are now exactly that.

SMILE, TIGERS

When Richmond came up to Brisbane to face myself and the Lions in this year’s qualifying final, we thought we had them caged for most the first half.

How wrong we were.

We felt we were playing good enough football to be on top of them but you could see they had belief in each — no matter the situation.

There was vision of Jack Riewoldt singing as he went back to his position in the forward line after halftime.

That just shows the mindset of the group.

Damien Hardwick has been big on embracing the moment, enjoying it and always smiling.

Going in as favourites to win a second premiership in three years won’t phase them because of how relaxed they are.

They will just be embracing another opportunity to play in a Grand Final.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/luke-hodge-can-the-giants-tame-the-tigers-like-hawthorn-killed-the-shark-in-2008/news-story/bc12c93a657af5459135cef4d05712ac
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 27, 2019, 11:05:28 PM
Not surprising info but Ch 7 news said "insiders" tell them De Boer will tag Dusty.

They also said the Giants plan to target Houli.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on September 27, 2019, 11:46:46 PM
Looks like Gilligan's been doing some editing:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/greater-western-sydney-win-afl-grand-final-according-to-wikipedia-entry-20190927-p52vpn.html

The fix is in....:shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 01:33:42 AM
Wishful thinking. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. Some Bomber fan after they got flogged in the first week of the finals altered the 2019 AFL season page to having Essendon defeating West Coast  :wallywink. All you need to do is just create an account and change that page to Richmond winning the next 10 flags in a row  ;D.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 01:47:30 AM
All about the contested footy and team pressure for us at the start. Even when they win the pill it needs to be under pressure so they can't execute well. Add of course efficiency and taking our chances in front of the sticks when we go forward.

 :gotigers 
Title: View from the coaches' box: Jade Rawlings on how to win the grand final (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 02:46:33 AM
View from the coaches' box: Jade Rawlings on how to win the grand final

Jade Rawlings
The Age
28 September 2019


RICHMOND

All clubs want to have an indentifiable brand of play that is unerringly followed and believed in by players, coaches and the entire club. Richmond lead the AFL in this.

The Tigers made significant change before the 2017 season and since that first JLT game of 2017 they have played with a recognisable brand.

Richmond want to go forward with the ball at every possible opportunity. That sounds obvious but not all teams do it, some like to hold, to transfer play sideways, to keep control of the ball at all costs.

Richmond are very comfortable in a game of chaos, as this enhances their chances of playing the way they want to.

If any Richmond ball carrier feels pressure they will go forward with the ball at first at all opportunities, through a kick, handball or knock on. It is a territory and pressure game.

The predictability of this enables players further afield to be in play ready for the next contest. This method also provides the defence with time to set the ground up the way they want to.

Richmond are excellent at using their numbers when they win the ball back. You will rarely, if ever, see a player in the TV screen that does not receive the ball in a chain of possession.

It suits their athletic profile to play this way, because they can seriously run. They value GPS metrics very highly. Daniel Rioli once did extra running after a VFL game at Williamstown, as he had not hit the markers that the strength and conditioning experts required from him.

Their defensive method is very invasive when the opposition win the ball in contested areas. They refuse to allow the opposition any time or space to make a decision – this keeps the game in a chaotic state.

If the opposition takes a mark or receive a free kick, they are able to position themselves very quickly to restrict marks through the corridor. The result they are after is the opposition kicking long down the line and this then feeds their strength because the opposition is kicking to a contest.

The only time I have seen the Tigers vulnerable defensively is when teams take multiple marks against them. Normally they are happy to let a team kick backwards because they all push up and reclaim the forward territory. They keep squeezing and making it harder for the opposition to find exits.

The Bulldogs late last year and Collingwood in round two this year are two examples where multiple marks stressed Richmond’s defensive system. GWS are a team that are prepared to go back and around to stretch the opposition defence.

The number one thing for me is their genuine spirit, passion and love they have for one another.

I love to see players genuinely celebrate the successes of their teammates, as it shows what they truly value. To see defenders punch the air when a teammate scores a goal is always a great sign. Jack Riewoldt chased down Jack Henry in the fourth term last week and the kick went out on the full. Two teammates rushed to him to acknowledge the effort – this is a total team.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Part of getting to the grand final and the obstacles they have overcome is what will make the Giants a hard team to beat.

The Giants have had a tumultuous season, but every time they look down and out, and vulnerable, they bounce back.

Injuries, losing tight games (the Essendon game), season-long questions over Stephen Coniglio’s future, two games where they didn’t kick a goal in the second half, two out of three finals played away from home, and media speculation surrounding the future of senior people within the club all tested the character of the club.

GWS are a very good stoppage team. They are quite strategic with how they set up, depending on how they believe they can exploit a team, or, how they can restrict an opposition strength but also how they can set up to best exploit their most influential players.

Lachie Whitfield and Josh Kelly are damaging outside players. When opposition teams tag them, the Giants attempt to position them somewhere that is going to unsettle the opposing team while not compromising what they want at stoppages.

This can be through putting them to half-forward and challenging the tagger to go into defence on them, or they send the tagged player to an opposition midfielder at the stoppage and so create a one-on-two (the Giants player would take his tagger with him as he moved onto a Richmond midfielder so suddenly there is one Giant and two Tigers playing on one another).

The explosive power of Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper and Zac Williams enables them to break away from stoppages and get the ball into one-on-one contests in the forward half.

Matt de Boer's role has been hugely successful for them this season. They know they can put him to the opposition’s most influential player and de Boer generally does his job. He reminds me a lot of a player who wore number 3 at North Melbourne about 10-12 years ago (Brady Rawlings).

The Giants have two modes they can play in when in possession. If they ever sense an offensive outnumber they will maximise it.

They can put all their talent on show in these scenarios. They run, carry, kick to a player in space, lengthen the ground and then get a goal out the back. That has been a trademark Giants play over the years.

What is noticeable about their play now is how they handle it if they are slowed up. They are methodical with retaining possession and remaining calm until an easy option emerges. This sometimes means going backwards and switching to the other side of the ground. Eventually they will kick long down the line to a contest, but not until they have exhausted every possible option by foot first.

They are also very good at kicking to each other inside 50. They can find space like few other teams inside their forward 50, as they always stay on the move.

The Giants play with genuine spirit. This got tested at the Gabba in the semi-final, but the spirit emerged under the highest level of pressure and this convinced me that they are the real deal.

PREDICTION


Richmond by 25 points.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/view-from-the-coaches-box-how-to-win-the-grand-final-20190927-p52vhu.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 28, 2019, 06:16:21 AM
One eyed a you going to update scores like you do normally.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 01:02:51 PM
One eyed a you going to update scores like you do normally.
I can't promise anything as it's kind of a busy day  ;D. If everyone who is on here during the game can chip in it'll be much appreciated. We can ride the varying emotions together  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 01:05:15 PM
Phil Davis still doing a fitness test in the GWS rooms.

BT and Carey saying Davis' body language doesn't look good.

But the teams are in according to Lingy on Ch 7 and there's NO LATE CHANGES.



Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 01:11:08 PM
Hopefully Davis and Whitfield are both under done!

Sitting in L4 Q7 if there's anyone nearby
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: 1965 on September 28, 2019, 01:12:07 PM
Hopefully Davis and Whitfield are both under done!

Sitting in L4 Q7 if there's anyone nearby

That's where my son is sitting.

 ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 01:14:21 PM
Grand Final schedule

1.26pm: Motorcade
Retiring players: Michael Rischitelli, Mark Lecras, Sam Gilbert, Aaron Sandilands, Dale Thomas, Jarrad McVeigh, Kieren Jack, Heath Grundy, Nick Smith, Dale Morris, Liam Picken, Scott Thompson, Daniel Wells, Jarryd Roughead, Jordan Lewis, Shaun Grigg, Brett Deledio.
Umpires: Scott Jeffery, Shane McInerney.
Brownlow Medallist: Nat Fyfe.
Football Woman of the Year: Shelley Ware.
NAB AFL Rising Star: Sam Walsh.
NAB AFL Women's Rising Star: Madison Prespakis.
NAB AFL Auskicker of the Year: Mac Monaghan.
NAB AFL Women's Leading Goalkicker: Stevie-Lee Thompson.
Australian cricketers: Meg Lanning, Pat Cummins.

1.34pm – 2.10pm: Grand Final entertainment

2.11pm: Umpires enter the field

2.13pm: Giants players enter the field

2.16pm: Tigers players enter the field

2.26pm: National anthem

2.28pm: Coin toss

2.30pm: Opening bounce for the AFL Grand Final


What happens if scores are level at full-time?

- There will be a six-minute break

- There will be two five-minute halves, plus time on. The first period teams will kick to the same end in fourth quarter before swapping for the second period.

- If the scores are still tied at the end of the second period, the siren will not ring until the next score, which will decide the winner.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-25/what-time-does-the-afl-grand-final-start
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
Davis expected to play.

Dimma just said you want to play them at their best.


NO LATE CHANGES


FINAL INTERCHANGES

Richmond: Shai Bolton, Ivan Soldo, Liam Baker, Marlion Pickett

Greater Western Sydney: Adam Tomlinson, Harry Perryman, Daniel Lloyd, Adam Kennedy

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-28/final-teams-richmond-v-greater-western-sydney
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 01:24:28 PM
Whoever out of Lynch and Jack has Davis needs to run and run. Do a few hard sprints to test out Davis' calf and see if he can keep up. If he can't then push back to the goalsquare and get everyone else to clear out so you have space to lead hard into. A huge risk by the Giants if they play him and he's not right.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 28, 2019, 01:25:53 PM
One eyed a you going to update scores like you do normally.
I can't promise anything as it's kind of a busy day  ;D. If everyone who is on here during the game can chip in it'll be much appreciated. We can ride the varying emotions together  :thumbsup.

No worrys mate love your updates. :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 01:49:58 PM
Music ain't bad.

Anyone reckon Tones & I was lip syncing?

Dean Lewis definitely not.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 28, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
Looked like it
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on September 28, 2019, 02:19:27 PM
Good luck all! See you on the other side!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 02:23:32 PM
Enjoy Dougies
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:26:03 PM
Cheer hard for the Tiges, Dougey  :gotigers.


Crowd is definitely strongly pro-Richmond. Big Boo was back when the Giants came out while a big roar for us.

On ya Maureen  :clapping.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:30:21 PM
Cotch won the toss. Kicking to the City End. Coming home in the last towards the Richmond End  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:32:06 PM
That's a mark to Jack  >:(.



Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Caddy long and it's rushed.

1 - 0

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:34:43 PM
That wasn't a free either to GWS  ::).

Who is the ump in a our F50? Two bad decisions already.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:37:18 PM
So there's no HTB against the Giants today?  ::)
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:40:11 PM
Caddy long again and it's off hands.

2 - 0
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
Ah George  :scream.

3 - 0

Got to take our chances boys.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:42:17 PM
Can't afford turnovers like that.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:47:25 PM
Of course we get pinged as soon as we're tackled  ::).

Greene misses.

3 - 2
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:48:12 PM
Unrealistic attempt at marks is ok now?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
Allowing the ball to get out the defensive side when we kick to Lynch at HF. Need someone front and square for the defensive punch.

3 - 8
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:52:47 PM
They are starting to win the clearances. Mids need to lift.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:55:48 PM
Bloody sloppy  handballs  :banghead.

We get it back via a great Lambert tackle. Jack to Dusty goal  :gotigers.

We needed that as a steadier.

Rich  1.3-9
GWS 1.2-8
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:58:16 PM
Rioli on the run on the siren  :gotigers

15 - 8
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 02:59:16 PM
Quarter time

Richmond   2.3-15
GWS          1.2-8

Goals: Martin, Rioli.

Well we turned up to play. Need to be cleaner forward of centre.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 02:59:36 PM
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOO!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 03:00:54 PM
See Greene getting into one of our players faces?  Saw it on the replay, dirty prick already into it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:02:31 PM
Pickett not out of place so far. Done a couple of nice things.

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
George that's a tough shot for anyone at that speed.

16 - 9
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:08:36 PM
We get it back. Davis pushes Jack 25 out. Goal!  :gotigers

Rich  3.4-22
GWS  1.3-9

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 28, 2019, 03:10:04 PM
Pressure and tackling let's up the anti and use our spread and speed and nail our chances.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:10:15 PM
Pickett  :bow.

360 out of the middle and kicks to George who leaps to mark 30 out. Poster.

23 - 9
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:11:30 PM
Pressure and tackling let's up the anti and use our spread and speed and nail our chances.
Proof that just then. Good forward pressure forced the kick OOTF. But Dusty then misses across the goal OOTF  :P.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:12:52 PM
Pickett again  :clapping.

Giant defender didn't want the body contact on Dusty who goals  :gotigers

Rich  4.5-29
GWS  1.3-9
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:14:55 PM
Great pressure again.

Rioli hits up Lynch on a 60 degree angle. Goal!  :gotigers

Rich 5.5-35
GWS 1.3-9
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:19:19 PM
Pickett 9 disposals. 2nd most for the Tiges.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:23:59 PM
Cut out the cute stuff  :scream.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Buddysucks on September 28, 2019, 03:25:03 PM
Can we all stop blind hand balling into the  defensive end of the corridor!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:26:31 PM
Too cute again stuffs up a open goal chance  :banghead.

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:27:53 PM
Caddy high inside 50 and Jack marks 35 out. Goal!  :gotigers

Rich  6.5-41
GWS  1.6-12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
LOL Greene reverses the free to us  :lol.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:30:58 PM
Sheds' hip and shoulder on Hopper hurt the latter.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:32:45 PM
Sheds with the defensive clearing kick. Dusty free on the wing. Goes long and Jack marks 50 out. Goalllllllllllllll!  :gotigers

3 to Jack.

Rich  7.5-47
GWS 1.6-12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:35:31 PM
Half-time

Richmond   2.3     7.5-47
GWS          1.2     1.6-12

Goals: Riewoldt 3, Martin 2, Lynch, Rioli.

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
Wayyyyyy more relaxed than in a 2017 hahaha.

I actually have my appetite back!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:42:12 PM
Still a half to go but so far so good.

Pickett not just making up the numbers. 4 score involvements so far.

Jack was clearly ticked off during the parade about being asked about him form. He's out to prove the baggers in the media wrong. Davis not right. Both Lynch and Jack have left him trailing.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 03:43:14 PM
A powerful first half from the Tigers who have dismantled the Giants. Richmond has matched GWS at clearances (21-19), been far more effective with ball in hand (kicking efficiency 73 percent to 61 percent) and won the territory battle (inside 50 entries 27-19).

Richmond has retained possession from 59 percent of its inside 50 entries compared to GWS who has retained possession from only 42 percent of its entries. The Giants have forward half kicking efficiency of only 43 percent.

Since 2017, the Giants have averaged only 21 points from their clearances against the Tigers, which is the third-worst result recorded of any team against Richmond in this period. GWS trails 20-2 in points scored from stoppages at half time.

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/27/rich-v-gws#/summary
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 03:46:09 PM
Pickett looks at home, proving many wrong. Made for the big stage, to steal and oft used cliche.

Gee I wish George would jag a goal or two but he's been electric when he has it
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 03:50:00 PM
Team Stats:

Disposals:    156 - 183  ( efficiency%  72 - 17; contested: 70 - 66 )
Clearances:    21 - 19   ( centre: 4 - 3 )
Inside 50s:     27 - 19
Marks:           38 - 45  ( marks F50: 5 - 3 )
Turnovers:     31 - 30
Intercepts:    29 - 32
Hitouts:         25 - 10
Tackles:        40 - 39
One%ers:      27 - 29
Frees:           13 - 7

Individual disposals:

Prestia 15
Sheds  11
Dusty   11
Pickett  11
Houli     9
Lambert 9
George  8
Floss    8
Caddy   7
Grimes 7
Lynch  7
Nank   7
Jack   6
Short 6
Bolts  5
Cotch 5
Ellis   5
Rioli  5
Broad 5
Baker 4
Astbury 3
Soldo  2

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/27/rich-v-gws#/player-stats
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:55:06 PM
Sheds leading the Norm Smith for mine to half-time. All silk.

Gee I wish George would jag a goal or two but he's been electric when he has it
George would be the best small forward in the AFL if he could kick straight.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 28, 2019, 03:55:54 PM
Let's keep it going no slacking of or cheap goals
Pressure and tackling hit them hard again and keep the game on our terms and nail our inside 50 chances put the hammer down.Not get cute to.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 03:57:02 PM
Get ready for one last go by Giants, 10-15min.

Then they'll be 100% cooked and it's all over.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 03:59:44 PM
Big first 10 minutes of the 3rd coming up. Need to come out just as fired up as the first half to counter any Giants' post half-time surge. Hold them here or even better we keep going and it will go a long way to winning the cup. There's a reason why it's called the premiership quarter. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
Good mark by nank down the line. Gets to Caddy who finds George 45 out. One of the worst set shot kick off all time misses everything  :P

We get it back. Sheds hits up Lynch 50 out. He sprays it OOTF too.

 :banghead

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:05:34 PM
Pressure forces the turnover again.

Cotch well weighted kick to Jack 45 out. Misses.

That was the hardest of the 3 but we need to take our chances.

48 - 12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
Built the wall.

Lambert to Prestia lace out to Lynch 35 out. Got this one. Goal!  :gotigers

Rich  8.6-54
GWS  1.6-12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:09:11 PM
Dusty .. what the freak!  :bow

Rioli cleverly keeps it in. Snap from the pocket threads the needle  :gotigers.

Rich  9.6-60
GWS 1.6-12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:12:36 PM
Rioli and Bolts with clever tap ons. Pickett finds Dusty 35 out. Gives it back to Pickett on a better angle.

Pickett gets it! First game, first goal in a Grand Final :woohoo


Rich  10.6-66
GWS   1.6-12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:13:49 PM
They are frustrated. Getting dirty. Grimes decked off the ball.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:14:46 PM
Another Giants turnover. Baker to Sheds to Lambert who fires and goals from 45  :gotigers

Rich  11.6-72
GWS  1.6-12
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:20:15 PM
That's a mark/free to Lambert?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:21:24 PM
George on the run misses again.

5 shots for 4 behinds and one OOTF.

73 - 13
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:23:04 PM
Nank - a man's got to know his limitations. Ruckman rarely kick goals around their body.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:23:45 PM
GWS starting fights now.

Rioli misses on the run.

74 - 13
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:25:25 PM
Getting too cute again. Unnecessary short handballs when the first option kick was there.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:26:06 PM
Goal to them.

75 - 19

That was from our cuteness  :banghead.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Buddysucks on September 28, 2019, 04:27:05 PM
Razor.... it’s all about you!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:27:39 PM
Dirty bugger Cameron.

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:29:58 PM
Another bad GWS turnover. Short to Caddy to Soldo 35 out. Goal on the siren  :gotigers.

81 - 19
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
3/4 time

Richmond   2.3   7.5   12.9-81
GWS          1.2   1.6    2.7-19

Goals: Riewoldt 3, Martin 3, Lynch 2, Pickett, Rioli, Lambert, Soldo.

 :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 04:32:24 PM
Razor feeling a little neglected, wants to ensure he is talked about again, he needs someone to bounce a bottle off of his head.  BUT HOW BOUT THIS GAME!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 04:33:01 PM
Marlon Pickett, what an AFL debut LOL
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:35:17 PM
Still a quarter to go. Let's finish the job Tiges  :gotigers.

Pickett 17 disposals to 3/4 time debuting in a GF  :o  :clapping.

The Norm Smith is going to be a hard one to decide. Out of Sheds, Prestia, Houli, Dusty and even Pickett is a show if he has a good last qtr.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2019, 04:36:46 PM
A fitting end to the third quarter with another Tiger goal on the back of a forward half intercept gifted from an errant Giant kick. GWS averages 24 clanger kicks per game and has already recorded 22 such kicks.

GWS is yet to score from any of the 32 chains starting in its defensive 50, with many resulting in defensive half turnovers. Richmond has scored 2.1.(13) from 29 defensive 50 chains.

An indication of the ability of the Tigers to punish opposition errors is evident in a 46-5 lead in points scored from forward half intercepts. Richmond leads 21-17 in such intercepts at three-quarter time.

This is the lowest three-quarter time score in a Grand Final since 1960, when Collingwood had scored only 2.0.(12) against a powerful Melbourne team.

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/27/rich-v-gws#/summary

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Slipper on September 28, 2019, 04:37:11 PM
GWS have been completely dismantled.

Hard to say if we are that good or if they are the biggest checkers of all time.

Either way, disaster for the AFL
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Goal to them to start the last.

81 - 25
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:46:04 PM
Pickett sublime again at HF.

George misses again. That's 5 behinds + one OOTF. He could have kicked 6 today  :-\.

We get it back. Lynch to Bolts 30 out. Goal!  :gotigers


Rich  13.10-88
GWS   3.7-25
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:47:03 PM
Pickett long. Goes off hands into Dusty's face looking into the sun and rebounds for a point.

89 - 25
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
Pickett snaps from 40. Rioli almost marks it in the square. Jack stays down and puts it through  :gotigers.

PARTY TIME!  :gotigers


Rich  14.11-95
GWS   3.7-25
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
GWS have been completely dismantled.

Hard to say if we are that good or if they are the biggest checkers of all time.

Either way, disaster for the AFL
We're a great team winning another flag on the back of 12 straight wins but playing 4 hard finals in a row including a wet slog last week looks to have tired GWS out. This is very 1980-like.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 04:55:21 PM
Prestia misses.

96 - 25

5:44 to go.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:00:00 PM
Captain's goal  :gotigers

Rich  15.12-102
GWS   3.7-25
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 05:00:25 PM
reckon we are home yet?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:02:45 PM
Dusty 4 goals  :gotigers

Rich  16.12-108
GWS    3.7-25

This is now a bigger margin than 1980.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:02:59 PM
reckon we are home yet?
:lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:03:33 PM
Crowd: 100,014

Biggest club in the land  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:04:29 PM
Jack 5  :gotigers

 :bow

Rich  17.12-114
GWS   3.7-25


Hi to Adam Treloar if you're watching  :snidegrin.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:05:39 PM
Siren

PREMIERS 2019!  :gotigers

YOU BLOODY BEAUTY! :woohoo

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 05:13:37 PM
No Rance, no problem. Haha fmd not one for the time capsule but I'm so glad we have secured an 'era' now and are not a flash in the pan type like Footscray!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 05:14:45 PM
Guessing Houli or Jack for NSM!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: tdy on September 28, 2019, 05:18:00 PM
Woo Hoooo
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 28, 2019, 05:19:17 PM
Dusty wins his second Norm Smith  :bow.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 28, 2019, 05:23:56 PM
An all time great grand final performance. Just a beautiful display. It was like a surgeon just doing a beautiful job in surgery. A complete performance.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mat073 on September 28, 2019, 05:36:52 PM
Enjoy the Dynasty boys. What a team we have.

Statute of Hardwick please.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 28, 2019, 05:38:14 PM
Hardwick and Martin Immortals in waiting.

Cotchin Riewoldt Rance not far behind.

What an era.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: ¾ T!geɹ on September 28, 2019, 05:39:41 PM
Siren

PREMIERS 2019!  :gotigers

YOU BLOODY BEAUTY! :woohoo
:cheers :gotigers :clapping
I'm speechless with tears in my eyes  :)
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: wayne on September 28, 2019, 05:51:35 PM
What a time to play our first full 4 quarter performance of the year :bow
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: JP Tiger on September 28, 2019, 06:09:04 PM
What a day!     :gotigers 

Such an awesome display of power football that will send shivers through the whole competition! 

The yellow & black dynasty begins now!      :gotigers   :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: camboon on September 28, 2019, 06:47:16 PM
What an amazing win, this team will go down as a great one and we have the next few years to look forward to
Bloody Beauty!!!!!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2019, 06:51:49 PM
Blokes that could have been best 22 but missing today:

Rance
Stack
Graham
Macintosh
Ross
Higgins

Developing:
RCD
CCJ

Great time to be a tiger!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 07:06:54 PM
Was fantastic.  I did think GWS would be tired though, they had to grinders against Brisbane and Collingwood and then to play us was just the worst possible luck as we will run everyone into the dirt on a half good day.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mat073 on September 28, 2019, 07:14:42 PM
I'm feeling a lot of hatred towards us from opposition supporters... And I love it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 28, 2019, 07:33:18 PM
Jack 5  :gotigers

 :bow

Rich  17.12-114
GWS   3.7-25


Hi to Adam Treloar if you're watching  :snidegrin.

2 ZIP now  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 28, 2019, 07:48:19 PM
haha stuff dat dud.  I just want to say, thanks Richmond for sparing my heart today, it has been a rough year and I reckon a close game or a loss might of taken a few years off so it was nice to cruise this in.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: lamington on September 28, 2019, 07:54:24 PM
It was poetry in motion the second Martin kicked his first goal. So proud of the boys
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 28, 2019, 11:36:51 PM
Premierssssss baby woooooooo!!!

What a team, what a performance from player 1-22.

Never thought I’d see the day where we’d be the dominant force in football  :cheers :bow :clapping :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Rampsation on September 29, 2019, 04:22:09 AM
We are a modern day superpower now. Onfield off field etc. The challenge is can we get from 103000 members to say 120000 members next year
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 29, 2019, 07:28:47 AM
Match highlights: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-09-28/highlights-grand-final

Team Song: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-09-28/team-song-richmond

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a37e73e67d1f0eec6f55efb289889461?width=1024)

(https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/multitools.newscdn.com.au/multitools/factbox/content/1569636626681/AFL-GRAND-FINAL-NEWS_f-vpyaU8D.jpg)
Pictures: Michael Klein.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: georgies31 on September 29, 2019, 07:51:27 AM
Eat them alive and we did love this team and club the connection is amazing  :gotigers.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 29, 2019, 09:18:35 AM
A very special day

It is a privilege to be there

This one was different to 2017 though

This victory was just brutal. A statement made
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on September 29, 2019, 11:29:02 AM
A very special day

It is a privilege to be there

This one was different to 2017 though

This victory was just brutal. A statement made
Very different, but equally as special.

Going in to a GF as favourites is pretty horrible in a way, and you desperately want the game to play out exactly as it did. Could not have scripted it better.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 29, 2019, 12:10:36 PM
Ch 7 is replaying the whole GF now.

At 1/4 time at the moment. About to put the foot down  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 29, 2019, 12:17:00 PM
If they were a Ferrari, their driver should lay off the blow coz he keeps driving it into ditches.  I spose we must be the Tesla.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 29, 2019, 12:27:15 PM
They were talking about that Owl on the radio last week. They had some guy on who was giving themes for each team before each final. Richmond were the "bulls" based on our charging forward in numbers like the running of the bulls in Pamplona. Some listener then texted in that the bull is the symbol for Lamborghini while Ferrari's is the prancing horse. A charging bull will always beat a prancing horse  ;D.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 29, 2019, 12:40:51 PM
lol.  I tell you what is funny is reading all the salty neutrals, I actually feel for GWS fans, I reckon they are alright, they aren't bitter sooks, and they got shafted by their team, but the bitter, salty neutrals..gee I am dining out on their brine atm.  Short memories.  Where are all their witty little ninthmond japes and their flippant dismissals of of shitmond today?  Oh no it was the umpires and the "VFL" centric AFL and other conspiracies, we got it handed to us on a stuffing platter apparently despite working through all the compromised drafts and playing against a team that has had the pick of the crop since inception.
Truth is, this is one magic stuffing group of people at RFC from Little Peggie to the poor basted scrubbing the shitters at night and I am stoked for our club to see the sun shining again for us and to prove it wasn't just a fluke.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 29, 2019, 12:50:30 PM
And another thing, how come Marlion Pickett, a WAFL player, can play just fine on the MCG in his first game of AFL ?  All these supposedly professional teams are somehow crippled by the experience.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on September 29, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
I did laugh at one interstate club supporter still whinging about the Grand Final being played at the 'G and that it needs to be shared around. He seriously typed "It takes the interstate team being much better than the Victorian team to win the GF". Ummm, being better than your opponent is the whole point of footy/sport no matter where you play :stupid. 

We won the QF away interstate in Brisbane in front of a packed 'Gabba and as a result earnt the PF and yesterday's GF as our home games as the higher ranked team. Even under the rotation system some want, the Granny this year would've still been played at the 'G.

LOL at sooking about the umps when the margin is 15 goals  :lol. Actually it was the first time I can remember that I didn't notice Razor Ray umpiring  :o.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on September 29, 2019, 01:05:12 PM
cept for his rubbish free and then fifty, he kept pretty quiet.  I spose that was somehow biased in our favor taking it from our fifty to their forward fifty and ending in a certain goal to them lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on September 29, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
Truth is, this is one magic stuffing group of people at RFC from Little Peggie to the poor basted scrubbing the shitters at night

 :lol :shh :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on September 29, 2019, 02:23:31 PM
  I spose we must be the Tesla.

Mate we just won the flag, no need to insult our club like that... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mat073 on September 29, 2019, 04:51:27 PM
I wonder if we have broken GWS - just like we did the Adelaide football club and Chris Scott.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on September 29, 2019, 05:32:05 PM
...and they will know us by the trail of the dead... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 30, 2019, 01:08:38 AM
Quirky stats from the Grand Final:

* The numbers say it was the most dominant grand final in VFL/AFL history. The 17.12 (114) to 3.7 (25) victory converts to a percentage of 456.0 - well above the 370.5 produced by the Cats 12 years ago.

* Jack Riewoldt's 5 goals was more than the Giants' entire score of 3.7-25. The first time in 118 years that has happened in a Grand Final (Essendon's Albert Thurgood 3 goals in the 1901 Grand Final vs Collingwood's 2.4-16)

* Dustin Martin created history when he picked up his second Norm Smith Medal, becoming the only player to own two flags, two Norms and a Brownlow.

* Dusty did it by becoming just the seventh player in the AFL era to have at least 20 disposals and four goals in a grand final.

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/ten-startling-stats-from-the-most-one-sided-afl-grand-final-ever-c-478238
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 30, 2019, 08:15:02 AM
I wonder if we have broken GWS - just like we did the Adelaide football club and Chris Scott.

I think we have mate. Not only that I think Cameron will return to Melbourne

A big club will see the success we had with Lynch and come hard in getting him back to Melbourne

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: eliminator on September 30, 2019, 08:32:01 AM
Childhood dream come true to see us win a flag at the MCG. Thank you to the players. A hard run to the finals and two tough finals put us in good stead.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mat073 on September 30, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
I'm not complaining but as a spectacle for neutral supporters it would of been an absolute snooze fest on Saturday. My West Coast mates are already saying Worst Grand Final ever.
To be honest there was over an hour of junk time.

It was just an awesome display. A minow competing against a juggernaut. People got sucked in by the romance of GWS but the reality was they were no chance.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 30, 2019, 02:25:19 PM
All clear from the MRO:

The AFL advises the Match Review of yesterday’s 2019 Toyota AFL Grand Final match at the MCG has been completed. No charges have been laid from the match with one incident requiring detailed explanation.

Incidents assessed:
Contact between GWS GIANTS’ Jeremy Cameron and Richmond’s Liam Baker in the third quarter of Saturday’s match was assessed. Baker handballs over Cameron’s head. Cameron leaves the ground in an attempt to intercept the football, and subsequently makes high contact to Baker. A free kick was paid at the time for high contact. It was the view of the MRO that Cameron’s actions did not constitute a reportable offence. No further action was taken.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-29/match-review-officers-full-statement-grand-final
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 30, 2019, 07:14:48 PM
Pretty sure lynch copped a couple of jumper punches to the face but oh well
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: lamington on September 30, 2019, 08:34:24 PM
I think of how port went into free fall after their 2017 loss and I feel that could happen to gws as well. Like look at Adelaide?
Title: ‘Everest is taller but K2 is harder’: The theme behind Tigers' 2019 flag (Fox)
Post by: one-eyed on October 01, 2019, 04:15:10 PM
‘Everest is taller but K2 is harder’: The theme behind Richmond’s 2019

October 1, 2019
Josh Gabelich
FOX SPORTS


After falling short of the summit last year, Richmond scaled back up the mountain again in 2019.

When the Tigers went all the way in 2017 to snap a 37-year premiership drought, the theme of that year centred on conquering Mount Everest.

And now it turns out mountain climbing was a source of inspiration for the Tigers this year.

Two-time premiership coach Damien Hardwick has revealed the Tigers chose another mountain to turn their attention to this season.

While Mount Everest is the highest mountain in the world, K2 in Pakistan is regarded as more difficult to climb.

“K2 is another 8000 metre mountain but it is harder than Everest. Everest is taller but K2 is harder,” Hardwick told Fox Footy’s On the Couch on Monday night.

“We spoke about we’ve done Everest, now we’re trying to do one harder.

“We carried on that theme from 2018 as well when we fell short.

“There is a patch on the mountain called ‘the bottleneck’. ‘The bottleneck’ is where people either get through or you die and we were at ‘the bottleneck’ preliminary final and that was the main theme.”

The Tigers overcame plenty of obstacles in 2019 before trouncing Greater Western Sydney at the MCG on Saturday to win their second premiership in the space of three years.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-reveals-the-theme-behind-tigers-premiership-year/news-story/47a3e95c5dc3d5b05ad9ce3c108b2d26
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: big tone on October 01, 2019, 08:58:24 PM
How many times have people watched it?

I was at the game and have watched it 4 times since.

Bloody magnificent!!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 01, 2019, 11:03:37 PM
How many times have people watched it?

I was at the game and have watched it 4 times since.

Bloody magnificent!!

5.

twice before 10am sunday morning

its one of those things you cant not watch it when it pops up on fox

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mat073 on October 02, 2019, 10:07:12 AM
It's not a great game to rewatch.  60 minutes of Junk time.

Our other finals were more entertaining and stirring
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: mightytiges on October 02, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
Very similar to 1980. The premiership was built on the harder wins leading up to the Granny. We then got a tired opponent on the big day which we showed no mercy to. If the Pies instead of GWS had made it after their Prelim slog, it would have been a repeat of 1980. We would've flogged their them too.

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on October 02, 2019, 10:35:28 AM
It's not a great game to rewatch.  60 minutes of Junk time.

Our other finals were more entertaining and stirring
I tend to disagree. I have thoroughly enjoyed all the reviews so far  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: big tone on October 02, 2019, 08:26:55 PM
It's not a great game to rewatch.  60 minutes of Junk time.

Our other finals were more entertaining and stirring
I tend to disagree. I have thoroughly enjoyed all the reviews so far  :thumbsup
Watched another half this afternoon- it just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tiger Khosh on October 02, 2019, 09:03:07 PM
It's not a great game to rewatch.  60 minutes of Junk time.

Our other finals were more entertaining and stirring
I tend to disagree. I have thoroughly enjoyed all the reviews so far  :thumbsup
Watched another half this afternoon- it just keeps getting better.

Not a good game to watch if you support anyone other than Richmond. Otherwise it’s frkn great!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on October 04, 2019, 01:00:17 PM
The excuses are coming out for the Giants.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/10/04/star-giant-only-50-to-60-per-cent-fit-in-grand-final-loss/


You don't take injured players into a final let alone a grand final.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Slipper on October 04, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
The excuses are coming out for the Giants.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/10/04/star-giant-only-50-to-60-per-cent-fit-in-grand-final-loss/


You don't take injured players into a final let alone a grand final.

I’ll bet GWS aren’t happy with this. Makes them look a right bunch of idiots.

Pretty silly stuff from Lids IMO
Title: More records than Elvis: The Tigers' terrific Grand Final numbers (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on October 06, 2019, 05:58:43 AM
More records than Elvis: The Tigers' terrific Grand Final numbers

AFL.com.au
Ben Collins
Oct 6, 2019


NOW WE'VE had a week to digest Richmond's Grand Final triumph over Greater Western Sydney, here are some of the standout statistics that fascinated us.

Probably best to look away, Giants fans.

Eleven-goal heaven

Hopes were high for a tough contest when Giants star Jeremy Cameron slotted the first goal after 20 minutes, before Richmond blew the game apart with the next 11 goals.

By the late stages of the third quarter the Tigers led 11.9 (75) to just 1.7 (13).

As far as we can tell after diving into the archives, that burst was a record in a Grand Final.

Not even Geelong kicked that many on end when it smashed Port Adelaide by a record 119 points in 2007.

The Cats scored 10 consecutive goals – their last 10 goals in fact – to advance the score of 14.15 (99) to 5.4 (34) midway through the third quarter, to the extraordinary 24.19 (163) to just 5.5 (35) late in the final term.

Jack the Giant slayer

Richmond sharpshooter Jack Riewoldt became just the fourth player in history, and the first in 59 years, to outscore the opposition himself in a Grand Final.

In a seesawing battle between GWS and Riewoldt, the Giants hit the scoreboard first, Riewoldt piled on the next three goals and the Giants hit back with the next two before the irrepressible Tiger kicked two unanswered majors in the last quarter to take the honours by six points – 5.1 (31) to 3.7 (25).

It was the three-time Coleman medallist's first five-goal haul since he played a lone hand in last year's preliminary final loss to Collingwood, and the only five-goal haul against GWS this year.

Remarkably, the Tigers came within a whisker of becoming the first team to have two players outpoint the opposition in a Grand Final, with dual Norm Smith medallist Dustin Martin contributing 4.0 (24) – a solitary point short of GWS.

Riewoldt was the first to achieve the feat since 1960, when Melbourne forward/ruckman Robert 'Big Bob' Johnson's 2.3 (15) edged out Collingwood's 2.2 (14).

Recently deceased Demons great Frank 'Bluey' Adams also scored 2.1 and fellow star Hassa Mann 2.0.

In 1927 Collingwood legend Gordon Coventry's tally of at least 2.2 (14) pipped Richmond's 1.7 (13), and in 1901 Essendon legend Albert Thurgood's three goals (and an undetermined number of behinds) beat the Magpies' 2.4 (16).

Players who outscored the opposition in a Grand Final

Year            Player                Tally          Opposition      Differential
2019    Jack Riewoldt (Rich)  5.1 (31)    GWS 3.7 (25)        +6
1960   Bob Johnson (Melb)    2.3 (15)     Coll 2.2 (14)        +1
1927 Gordon Coventry (Coll) 2.2 (14)*   Rich 1.7 (13)      +1
1901 Albert Thurgood (Ess)   3.0 (18)*    Coll 2.4 (16)     +2

* Exact tally of behinds is uncertain.

Who says you don't get percentage in finals?

The 89-point margin was the third-biggest in Grand Finals, behind Geelong's 119-point win over Port Adelaide in 2007 and Hawthorn's 96-point victory over Melbourne in 1988.

However, percentage-wise, the Tigers produced the most dominant performance in Grand Final history, their total of 17.12 (114) being four-and-a-half times bigger than the Giants' 3.7 (25).

Biggest percentage in a Grand Final

%                         Teams                                  Year

456     Rich 17.12 (114) v GWS 3.7 (25)             2019
442.9    Melb 8.14 (62) d Coll 2.2. (14)              1960
370.5    Geel 24.19 (163) d PA 6.8 (44)             2007
271.4    Haw 22.20 (152) d Melb 6.20 (56)        1988
268.6     Ess 6.7 (43) d Coll 2.4 (16)                 1901

Fluctuating fortunes of Lynch's mobs

Tigers spearhead Tom Lynch was back to his high-leaping best this season, but the biggest leap he made was up the ladder.

The former Gold Coast co-captain vaulted an equal-record 16 ladder places – from 17th with the Suns last year to first.

His effort matches that of Hawthorn defender James Frawley, who left 17th-placed Melbourne at the end of 2014 and played in a premiership the next season with the Hawks.

Lynch also became just the third captain to leave a club and win a flag the next year. The others were David Thorpe (Footscray captain in 1973 and Richmond premiership player in 1974) and Stan Alves (Melbourne captain in 1976 and North Melbourne premiership player in 1977).

Castagna's relief

The landslide result saved Richmond forward Jason Castagna considerable regret after he was goalless from six shots.

The opportunist spoiled an otherwise strong 20-possession performance as he blazed 0.5 and one out on the full, giving him a wayward tally of 2.14 from his past four outings against GWS.

But Castagna's inaccuracy was by no means the worst in a Grand Final.

'George' Castagna's Grand Final was close to brilliant ... five times. Picture: AFL Photos

That title is probably shared by Collingwood's legendary goal machine Gordon Coventry and North Melbourne forward Arnold Briedis, both of whom who sprayed 0.7.

Coventry's rare goalless outing might well have cost the Magpies the 1925 premiership given they were beaten by Geelong by just 10 points.

Briedis had an off day in the Kangaroos' draw with Collingwood in the 1977 Grand Final. However, he made amends in the replay the next week by bagging a game-high 5.3 in a 27-point win.

The previous year Hawthorn half-forward John Hendrie kicked 2.8 in a 30-point win over North.

For many years Essendon full-forward Bill Brittingham was the scapegoat for the Bombers' disastrous tally of 7.27 (69) in the 1948 drawn Grand Final against underdog Melbourne (which won the replay convincingly). A myth persisted that Brittingham had finished with the horrific return of 2.12, when his actual contribution was 2.3.

In contrast, St Kilda hero Barry Breen kicked the game's most famous point to lift the Saints to their only premiership in 1966 against Collingwood, and his return of 0.4 (he reckons it was 0.5) is virtually forgotten.

Pies pair Vin Doherty (0.5) and Ron Todd (4.9 from 16 shots) squandered numerous opportunities in the 1936 Grand Final, but weren't made to pay for their recklessness as the Woods prevailed by 11 points over South Melbourne.

Swans superstar Bob Pratt finished with 3.8 and missed everything with another shot in the 1933 decider, but he still almost beat Richmond's total of 4.5 (29).

Melbourne legend Norm Smith kicked 1.6 in a 53-point win over Collingwood in the 1939 Grand Final.

Among those haunted by their failures in front of the big sticks include Geelong utility Russell Renfrey, whose 0.5 proved costly in a 12-point loss to Collingwood in the 1953 play-off.

Coventry was also off target in the famous 1937 Grand Final with 3.7 in the Woods' 32-point loss to Geelong.

For balance, it's important to note that Coventry was brilliant in several Grand Finals, bagging a record 9.4 in the 1928 win over Richmond (which tallied just 9.9), 7.5 in the 1930 victory over Geelong, and outscoring Richmond himself in the low-scoring 1927 decider.

Jeremy's jitters

It will be a long summer for Giants forward Jeremy Finlayson, who had just one possession in 63 per cent game time.

It was the equal-worst effort by a player in a Grand Final in 15 years – since Brisbane Lions veteran full-forward Alastair Lynch failed to have a single disposal in the 2004 loss to Port Adelaide.

Finlayson had more of the ball before he ran through the banner than afterwards. Picture: AFL Photos

In an embarrassing last game for the triple-premiership Lion, Lynch started a fight that resulted in a 10-game suspension and managed just 47 per cent game time as he battled a quad injury.

Hawthorn key defender Trent Croad also had just one touch in the 2008 Grand Final, but he had an excuse – he suffered a career-ending foot injury in the second quarter of the upset win over Geelong.

Collingwood's teenage big man Tristen Walker had only one possession in 49 per cent game time in the 2003 loss to Brisbane.

The previous year Magpie small forward Leon Davis had 'donuts', although he was credited with three tackles, in another defeat to the Lions.

Streaky Tigers

While conjuring its most complete performance in a Grand Final, Richmond also equalled the club record for its greatest winning run.

The Tigers have now won 12 games in a row, matching the effort of the club's 1932 premiership team.

It has been a sensational revival given that the hot streak started after their mid-season bye when they had slumped to 7-6 and a percentage of just 92, landing them in ninth position, outside the top eight by 16.2 per cent.

The reigning premier will have a golden opportunity to claim the outright club record of 13 successive wins in their 2020 season-opener against Carlton

Since the Tigers went down to Adelaide by 33 points at Adelaide Oval in round 13 – their third defeat on the trot – coach Damien Hardwick has remained on 99 career losses.

That's along with his 130 wins and two draws and an ever-increasing 56.7 per cent strike rate.

Richmond's most consecutive wins

Wins             Span            Ave. margin
12*       R15, 2019 –              39
12    R11, 1932 – R2, 1933     29
11     R4, 1980 – R14, 1980    49
10      R13, 1934 – R2, 1935   29
10      R13, 1967 – R2, 1968   37
10      R14, 1972 – QF, 1972   38

* Unbroken

Marlion the Magnificent

Unless you've been living under a rock you'll know that one-game sensation Marlion Pickett became just the sixth player to debut in a Grand Final, and the first in 67 years.

The Tigers' mid-season recruit was the fourth among this group to win a first-up premiership, and the first in 93 years.

The 27-year-old West Australian also played in front of the biggest crowd for a debutant, with 100,014 fans cramming into the MCG.

Pickett, who donned No.50, was just the seventh player to wear a number as high as 50 in the season decider, and the fifth in succession to win a flag.

Biggest crowds on debut

Crowd          Player                          Game          Opp             Result

100,014    Marlion Pickett (Rich)    GF, 2019         GWS            W89
95,614      Travis Payze (St K)        SF, 1966         Coll             L10
95,386     Len Thompson (Coll)       PF, 1965         Ess              L55
94,825     Jason Wild (Coll)            R4, 1995          Ess             Tie
94,451     Scott Howell (Carl)         SF, 1980          Coll            L50
92,436     David Miller (Rich)          R4, 1977         Coll             L26
91,857    Graeme Dunstan (Coll)     SF, 1972         St K            L18

Other odds and ends

* It's been well documented that the Giants' total of 3.7 (25) was the lowest in a Grand Final since Collingwood's 2.2 in 1960. It was also the first time a team had kicked the lowest score in its history in a Grand Final. And it was the third-lowest score by a team in its first Grand Final, only marginally better than Collingwood's 2.4 (16) in 1901 and Essendon's 3.5 (23) in 1898.

* Richmond and GWS ended up with exactly the same number of goals and behinds for the season – 322 goals and 271 behinds for a grand total of 2203 points. Of course, the Giants played one more final. This has happened just once before – 50 years ago when non-finallists St Kilda and South Melbourne both tallied 257.261 (1803).

* Among premiership teams, the injury-hit Richmond used the equal-second-most players. Fitzroy used a record 44 players in 1944, followed by the Western Bulldogs in 2016 and three Tiger teams (1943, 1969 and 2019) with 39. Those to have used 38 comprise two more Richmond line-ups (1974 and 2017), North Melbourne in 1977 and Adelaide in 1998.

Most of the above information was provided by Stephen Rodgers and Col Hutchinson.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-05/more-records-than-elvis-the-tigers-terrific-grand-final-numbers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: big tone on October 08, 2019, 01:59:54 PM
I still cannot believe we won another one.

It’s still doesn’t feel real.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: wayne on October 08, 2019, 09:08:51 PM
Would GWS playing 5 taggers (De Boer, Reid, Perryman, Lloyd and Kennedy) be a record?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: DCrane on October 08, 2019, 09:27:20 PM
Would GWS playing 5 taggers (De Boer, Reid, Perryman, Lloyd and Kennedy) be a record?
:lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: DCrane on October 08, 2019, 09:29:50 PM
I still cannot believe we won another one.

It’s still doesn’t feel real.

It's not. The Richmond GWS 'Grand Final' was actually a Harry M Miller production. Glad you enjoyed.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2019, 09:28:16 PM
Richmond’s record Grand Final goal blitz

Ben Collins
AFL Media
Oct 9, 2019


Hopes were high for a tough 2019 AFL Grand Final contest when Giants star Jeremy Cameron slotted the first goal after 20 minutes, before Richmond blew the game apart with the next 11 goals.

By the late stages of the third quarter the Tigers led 11.9 (75) to just 1.7 (13).

As far as we can tell after diving into the archives, that burst was a record in an AFL/VFL Grand Final.

Not even Geelong kicked that many on end when it smashed Port Adelaide by a record 119 points in 2007.

The Cats scored 10 consecutive goals – their last 10 goals in fact – to advance the score of 14.15 (99) to 5.4 (34) midway through the third quarter, to 24.19 (163) to just 5.5 (35) late in the final term.

Meanwhile, Richmond’s final score in the 2019 Grand Final of 17.12 (114) was its second highest for the season.

The Tigers kicked 23.12 (150) in their Round 16 victory over Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium.

Their season-high winning margin that day of 92 points was only three points more than in the premiership-decider against the Giants.

And the Grand Final was only the fourth time throughout the 2019 season that Richmond had won all four quarters in a match.

The Tigers also achieved this in Round 9 v Hawthorn at the MCG, Round 18 v Port Adelaide, MCG and Round 20 v Melbourne, MCG.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-10-09/richmonds-record-grand-final-goal-blitz
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Slipper on October 10, 2019, 11:35:50 AM
Would GWS playing 5 taggers (De Boer, Reid, Perryman, Lloyd and Kennedy) be a record?

GWS played with themselves thinking they could beat us. That’s about it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2019, 07:25:32 PM
3AW, ABC, SEN & MMM GF radio calls:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jBQO-44-XnAq5ic3A7QK0-hhrHjCmggN (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jBQO-44-XnAq5ic3A7QK0-hhrHjCmggN)
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 11, 2019, 07:29:26 PM
Would GWS playing 5 taggers (De Boer, Reid, Perryman, Lloyd and Kennedy) be a record?

GWS played with themselves thinking they could beat us. That’s about it.

 :lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: torch on October 12, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
Richmond 2019 AFL Premiers  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2019, 06:18:50 PM
Quirky Stat of the Day:

This year’s grand final victory by 89pts over GWS was Richmonds 89th final.

Richmond also won their 8th final by 8pts on 8th October 1921.

https://twitter.com/BigV2011WCE/status/1182507747482275840
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: JP Tiger on October 12, 2019, 11:49:12 PM
So, by rights, we should beat Collingwood by 90 pts in the Grand Final to win the 2020 premiership!     :birthday
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on October 12, 2019, 11:50:56 PM
92 points :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Go Richo 12 on October 12, 2019, 11:58:38 PM
92 points :shh
Would be sweeter if it was 93 points.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2019, 03:12:51 PM
Richmond’s 2019 premiership team was the most experienced in terms of total games played of all the flag-winning sides in Tigerland history.

And the average age of this year’s premiership line-up was 26 years, 176 days, which makes it the third oldest, behind the 1934 team (26 years, 282 days) and the 1921 side (26 years, 336 days).

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-10-11/seasoned-tigers-savour-september-success
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on October 13, 2019, 04:40:17 PM
92 points :shh
Would be sweeter if it was 93 points.

So you'd prefer to either lose the qualifying final or finish outside the Top 4? :shh :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Go Richo 12 on October 14, 2019, 05:13:51 AM
92 points :shh
Would be sweeter if it was 93 points.

So you'd prefer to either lose the qualifying final or finish outside the Top 4? :shh :shh
Would be incredible to finish outside the top 4, watch their supporters strut around GF week thinking they have our measure and then we flog them in the GF.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Willy on October 14, 2019, 10:03:29 AM
Not bad for a "middling list"...  :lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Chuck17 on October 14, 2019, 10:31:41 AM
A team with plenty of half glass full types
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 14, 2019, 10:40:06 AM
With backs as soft as butter with a dud on the sidelines......
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on October 14, 2019, 11:06:42 AM
Richmond’s 2019 premiership team was the most experienced in terms of total games played of all the flag-winning sides in Tigerland history.

And the average age of this year’s premiership line-up was 26 years, 176 days, which makes it the third oldest, behind the 1934 team (26 years, 282 days) and the 1921 side (26 years, 336 days).

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-10-11/seasoned-tigers-savour-september-success

This really surprises me, especially when there are a handful of blokes with very few games to their name before the GF.

Pickett with 0
Soldo 21
Baker 21
Bolton 27

Then Broad with 53.


Succession planning seems to be going well though, so I don't necessarily predict a huge spike in 'average age' or 'average games' per player over the next 2-3 years. Which if you are one for metrics would suggest we are still well and truly in the window before we go over the cliff...
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on October 14, 2019, 11:31:55 AM
Worst fantasy football team ever
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on November 03, 2019, 03:35:00 PM
Holding out for a Hero - Richmond premiers 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjbyiMrvjk


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIKuFUHWwAATrA0?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/SopeCartoons/status/1189704674376470528
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on November 21, 2019, 02:27:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJzn6bBVAAEi2eQ?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/gotiges76/status/1197086598392758275
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on November 22, 2019, 04:44:33 PM
Still an amazing fact that 1/3 of our premiership team this year weren't picked up in the main national draft.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-11-21/tiger-talent-scouts-time-to-shine-again

The ability of the Richmond recruiters to find ‘hidden gems’ should engender plenty of confidence among Yellow and Black barrackers for next week’s AFL national and rookie drafts.

Emphatic evidence of this is the fact that the Tigers’ 2019 premiership team included seven players who weren’t even national draft selections, and another one that was taken at pick 67 overall in the national draft.

Dylan Grimes was the Club’s first pick (No. 2 overall) in the 2010 pre-season draft, Jayden Short, Jason Castagna, Kane Lambert and Ivan Soldo were all 2015 rookie draft selections, Nathan Broad was that pick 67 in the 2016 national draft, Liam Baker was a 2018 rookie draft choice, while Marlion Pickett landed at Tigerland via the competition’s reintroduced mid-season draft this year.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on December 07, 2019, 04:28:23 PM
‘There are no scars’: GWS regroup for another shot at glory

Jamie Pandaram
The Daily Telegraph
December 7, 2019


It’s 5.05pm on September 28 at the MCG. The scoreboard reads Richmond 114 GWS 25.

Utter dejection.

Coniglio never made it onto the field. He gave up the Wednesday before, and watched in his suit.

“Being on the field with Richmond after the game,” Coniglio identifies as the most profound football moment this year.

“I had a couple of close friends play for them, having chats post grand final about their love for each other, even Dusty (Martin) – he wins the Norm Smith Medal then puts it under his top straight away and just has his premiership medal – little things like that you can’t help but admire.

“It makes you envious, not in a bad way, but you just want that for us.”

...

Davis played after passing a last-minute fitness test on the ground moments before kick-off.

But after his rival, Jack Riewoldt, kicked five goals alone in the match, Davis was labelled “a liability” for the Giants by some commentators.

“They don’t know what I did from 8pm the Saturday before to 2pm grand final day, how I felt, anything like that,” Davis said.

“There were certain markers I had to hit, we were very strategic and objective in what I had to do to play, and I felt really good.

“Did I play as well as I wanted to? Probably not. Did I think my body hampered me from doing what I needed to do to be part of a winning team? No.

“I still maintain my decision was the right one. I’m very content with that.”

Giants coach Leon Cameron, having taken the eight-year-old club to its fourth finals series in as many years, knew their first grand final was over by the third quarter as the Tigers romped through his team, also missing co-captain Callan Ward due to injury.

...

“I understand Richmond were the better team. But I don’t think they were that much better than us." - Phil Davis.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gws-giants-return-to-training-after-dashed-finals-dream/news-story/89bd385672046451ccbc2dd3aa84309b
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: 1965 on December 07, 2019, 06:45:13 PM

“Being on the field with Richmond after the game,” Coniglio identifies as the most profound football moment this year.

“I had a couple of close friends play for them, having chats post grand final about their love for each other, even Dusty (Martin) – he wins the Norm Smith Medal then puts it under his top straight away and just has his premiership medal – little things like that you can’t help but admire.

“It makes you envious, not in a bad way, but you just want that for us.”



Dusty is truly a champion.


 :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 07, 2019, 09:33:14 PM

“Being on the field with Richmond after the game,” Coniglio identifies as the most profound football moment this year.

“I had a couple of close friends play for them, having chats post grand final about their love for each other, even Dusty (Martin) – he wins the Norm Smith Medal then puts it under his top straight away and just has his premiership medal – little things like that you can’t help but admire.

“It makes you envious, not in a bad way, but you just want that for us.”



Dusty is truly a champion.


 :cheers

yep
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tiger Khosh on December 08, 2019, 10:34:42 PM
“I understand Richmond were the better team. But I don’t think they were that much better than us." - Phil Davis.

What?
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tiger Tragic on December 08, 2019, 10:55:25 PM
“I understand Richmond were the better team. But I don’t think they were that much better than us." - Phil Davis.

What?

Surely the came from an interview at qtr time??!!
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Damo on December 09, 2019, 08:33:41 AM
Taken out of context

He meant that he didn’t think we were the better team by what the margin indicated

He was referring to pre game, not how the game played out

We aren’t a 15 goal better side than GWS, we just happened to destroy them the day it mattered
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Owl on December 09, 2019, 09:36:40 AM
He said as he swallowed sadness lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on December 14, 2019, 03:20:31 AM
Giants won’t watch replay of horror Grand Final.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/gws-giant-callan-ward-says-there-will-be-no-squad-screening-of-2019-grand-final-defeat-sights-fixed-on-next-season/news-story/9c374e7dfd095a96201198c4886379ed
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on December 14, 2019, 10:11:38 AM
Trying to avoid becoming Adelaide 2.0 haha
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on December 14, 2019, 12:12:48 PM
Hope Fox Footy do a Grand Final recall this time, never did one in '17... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 16, 2019, 05:03:09 PM
The mark knight picture of our mascot With the cup and tiger woods is a ripper

I have no idea how to upload so one of the IT gurus could do it perhaps
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on December 16, 2019, 06:17:34 PM
Mark Knight's drawn another famous African-American...has the struggle session started on twitter yet? :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Diocletian on December 17, 2019, 02:31:46 PM
The mark knight picture of our mascot With the cup and tiger woods is a ripper

I have no idea how to upload so one of the IT gurus could do it perhaps

(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/3e890389-f952-4bc6-b26a-d400291b425b-jpeg.794654/)

 :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on December 17, 2019, 05:48:00 PM
2019 Scoreboard day 17-12
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EL8pnBHU0AAl3s_?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Under the Swan St bridge
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EL57LmzU8AUZCtp?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/marks_katrina/status/1206537199186927616
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on January 03, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
Photographer Tony Gough's pictures from the Swan St afterparty of the 2019 GF.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/photographer-tony-goughs-pictures-from-the-afterparty-of-the-2019-grand-final/news-story/5de0f8a907d8d94f2bb9b42bc53f36b8


Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on February 11, 2020, 03:37:03 PM
Heath Shaw's mid-game admission to Dustin Martin during Grand Final mauling

By Alex Zaia
SEN
10 Feb 2020


Ray Shaw has revealed a mid-game admission from son Heath during GWS' Grand Final thrashing to the hands of Richmond last season.

The Tigers romped to an 89-point win in one of the most one-sided Grand Finals in VFL/AFL history and Shaw says even Heath waved the white flag as the Giants could only muster just three goals for the entire match.

“It was all over at half-time,” the Collingwood great told SEN’s This Is Your Sporting Life - For Tobin Brothers Funerals, celebrating lives.

“I remember Heath (Shaw) talking to us afterwards and he said to Dusty (Dustin Martin) halfway through the third quarter: ‘Why don’t they just blow the siren now!’

“You try, but you are not going to get there. They were shot.”

After watching GWS in their pre-game warm-up, Shaw sensed something was amiss despite it being their maiden Grand Final appearance.

The build-up to the match centred around the fitness of captain Phil Davis who underwent a fitness test on a calf complaint less than an hour before the first bounce.

“I go to every game early and I like to watch the warm-up,” Shaw said.

“You can see whether they are on or they’ve got a bit of spring, and Rhyce (Shaw) and I were talking about it, they didn’t have any spring even before the game.

“In the warm-up they were flat, they didn’t look lively at all.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/02/08/heath-shaws-mid-game-admission-to-dustin-martin-during-grand-final-mauling/

The Giants still haven't watched the GF either.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/02/10/we-let-ourselves-down-we-let-the-club-down-cameron/
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on February 13, 2020, 03:04:36 AM
Why Razor Ray got a hug and apology from Dustin Martin on Grand Final day

By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
12 Feb 2020


AFL umpire ‘Razor’ Ray Chamberlain has revealed why he got an apology from Richmond star Dustin Martin during the 2019 Grand Final.

Chamberlain pinged Dusty for holding the ball late in the third quarter, which Martin clearly disagreed with as he lashed out at the umpire, saying “for f—’s sake Razor”, leading to a 50m penalty for abuse.

The soon-to-be two-time Norm Smith Medallist would seek out Razor Ray later in the game for a hug and an apology.

“I do recall at the start of the last quarter Dusty came into the centre bounce and I was starting the last quarter,” Chamberlain told SEN’s Whatley.

“We shared a hug and he goes, ‘I’m real sorry, I just got angry’.

“And I said, ‘that’s okay I do that too sometimes, that’s normal isn’t it’.

“They’re competing and it’s the big stage and it’s for a premiership and you expect them to be invested and that is totally okay.”

Martin would finish the game with four goals and his second Norm Smith Medal.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/02/12/why-razor-ray-got-a-hug-and-apology-from-dustin-martin-on-grand-final-day/
Title: The Grand Final moment that brought Dimma to tears (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 03, 2020, 04:49:11 PM
The GF moment that brought Dimma to tears

Liam Twomey
Jon Ralph
Herald-Sun
3 March 2020


He is one of footy’s most renowned hard men but former rugged defender Damien Hardwick has admitted he was reduced to tears late in the Grand Final.

Hardwick told Fox Footy’s season launch on Monday night at Crown that Trent Cotchin’s late goal from the centre bounce saw him hit with emotion.

The Tigers have a selfless culture, but as Cotchin broke from the centre his coach was desperate for him to ignore the leading Tom Lynch.

“It is actually my favourite moment from the Grand Final. I still get emotional just seeing it,” he told Fox Footy’s Eddie McGuire at the launch.

“Myself and Trent went through a lot together, and to see that goal and what it meant to our footy club was really important. Tommy Lynch was leading out of the square and he couldn’t have been more open but we were all saying, ‘Just kick it over his head’, and to see the players get around him…

“Trent will go down as one of the all-time leaders of the Richmond Football Club. To see what he has done is just outstanding and I shed a little tear in the box when I saw that goal go through. I was so happy for him.”

Hardwick revealed Dustin Martin’s squared ball to his former housemate Marlion Pickett wasn’t just inspired, it was orchestrated.

“Incredible really. It’s hard to believe he has played one game and has got four TV shows coming out. I have done more interviews about Marlion than anyone else….

“Him and Dusty had that really strong connection and Marlion moved in with Dusty for about three weeks and you can imagine the conversation would have been fast and vigorous.

“You can see that vision, we get different bits of vision and from behind the goal you could see Dustin telling Marlion where to run and he was obviously going to set the goal up.

“I was watching the crowd and every person in the stadium went up.

“People in Marlion’s situation, there are a lot of people out there who think their chance has passed but we can open up opportunities for people like that and the supplementary list is important.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-tuesday-march-3-2020/live-coverage/7f06d9c51d160867a34835f2c5c0ca5d
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on May 02, 2020, 01:19:51 PM
On what would have been #AFLGF re-match day, rewind with Richo to the second quarter (in full) of last year's season decider against GWS:

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/588374/richo-s-rewind-q2-grand-final-v-gws?videoId=588374&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1588388400001 (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/588374/richo-s-rewind-q2-grand-final-v-gws?videoId=588374&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1588388400001)
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on May 02, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
(http://image.tmclient.ticketmaster.com/lib/fe9815707d640c7e76/m/7/bd1d60a6-bfe6-4f11-9795-1e0c49e84800.png) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/2019GrandFinal-360)
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on May 15, 2020, 05:39:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYCcsW7UwAAGf9F?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1261180638331207680

One of the moments of the GF  :thumbsup.

Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2020, 03:23:42 PM
One year ago today - 2019 premiers :gotigers :highclap :dancing
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2020, 04:06:05 PM
Watched it on Friday.

Still great :D
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 28, 2020, 09:53:08 PM
Great watch and gets better with each viewing. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on September 28, 2020, 10:54:58 PM
Cotchin tackle on Mumford and the follow up TLC :D
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2021, 05:26:00 AM
Two years ago today  :thumbsup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZwOJJWxcsM

Still reigning MCG and daytime premiers  ;D.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Tiger Khosh on October 04, 2022, 09:17:45 AM
Gee I like that Hopper. Great player!

Will be even greater in the yellow and black Andy.
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: Andyy on October 04, 2022, 09:50:32 AM
Gee I like that Hopper. Great player!

Will be even greater in the yellow and black Andy.

Obviously we made quite the impression on them :))
Title: Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2022, 02:23:48 AM
Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto both played in the 2017 prelim v Tigers (94k at the G) and 2019 GF (100k). Would be exciting to have crowds like that behind you now #gotiges

https://twitter.com/al_superfooty/status/1579729134816985089