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Title: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on February 08, 2016, 07:15:23 PM
2016 AFL Prospectus: Champion Data nominates ‘elite’ players at every club

Tom Morris
FOX SPORTS
February 8, 2016 11:34am


HAWTHORN still has the top-end talent to win a fourth straight premiership in 2016, according to Champion Data’s player ratings.

The AFL’s official number-crunchers consider any player ranked in the top 10 per cent in their position ‘elite’ — and the Hawks lead the competition with eight players in this bracket.

West Coast is the next best with six, followed by Fremantle (five) and Richmond (four).

Hawthorn’s forward-line alone has more ‘elite’ players than 13 other clubs do across the field.

It’s no surprise the Hawks are ranked No. 1 for points scored in each of the last four home and away seasons, registering almost 250 more scoring shots than the next best team over this period.

In fact, the reigning premiers have six forwards ranked in the top 35 per cent or ‘above average’ in the AFL.

But Hawthorn’s firepower is not confined to the attacking half, with the midfield, headed by Sam Mitchell, also top-class.

At the other end of the ground, defenders Shaun Burgoyne and Josh Gibson, although both on the wrong side of 30, complete the elite eight.

In 2015 Hawthorn also had eight elite players, with Mitchell replacing Matt Suckling this year.

The swell of talent at Waverley Park is in stark contrast to Carlton, Melbourne, Essendon and St Kilda, who don’t have an elite player between them ahead of the 2016 season.

In the absence of 12 players serving season-long bans, Essendon has no players ranked above average, let alone elite. Before the suspensions, the Bombers had six players rated either elite or above average.

Carlton has two above average players on its books, while Melbourne possesses three and St Kilda four.

Since 2012, Champion Data has boxed players into five categories, ranging from ‘elite’ to ‘poor’ based on a complicated formula assessing their most recent form.

Since Sydney won the 2012 flag with six ‘elite’ players on its list, every premiership team has started the season with at least that number in their squads.
Matt Priddis celebrates a goal with Nic Naitanui.

HOW DOES CHAMPION DATA RATE YOUR CLUB’S ‘ELITE’ TALENT?

Hawthorn: 8 (2015: 8 )

Shaun Burgoyne

Sam Mitchell

Jarryd Roughead

Grant Birchall

Josh Gibson

Cyril Rioli

Luke Breust

Jack Gunston

IN: Mitchell

OUT: Suckling

West Coast: 6 (2015: 5)

Matt Priddis

Shannon Hurn

Mark LeCras

Nic Naitanui

Luke Shuey

Jeremy McGovern

IN: Priddis, Shuey

OUT: Eric Mackenzie

Fremantle: 5 (2015: 4)

Aaron Sandilands

David Mundy

Nat Fyfe

Harley Bennell

Michael Walters

IN: Bennell, Mundy

OUT: Michael Johnson

Richmond: 4 (2015: 4)

Brett Deledio

Jack Riewoldt

Shane Edwards

Alex Rance

NO CHANGE

Western Bulldogs: 4 (2015: 1)

Bob Murphy

Easton Wood

Marcus Bontempelli

Matthew Boyd

IN: Wood, Bontempelli, Boyd

Adelaide: 3 (2015: 6)

Eddie Betts

Rory Sloane

Brodie Smith

OUT: Patrick Dangerfield, Daniel Talia, Sam Jacobs

Geelong: 3 (2015: 4)

Joel Selwood

Harry Taylor

Patrick Dangerfield

IN: Dangerfield

OUT: Corey Enright, Jimmy Bartel

Brisbane: 2 (2015: 3)

Daniel Rich

Dayne Zorko

IN: Rich

OUT: Dayne Beams, Tom Rockliff

Port Adelaide: 2 (2015: 4)

Robbie Gray

Chad Wingard

OUT: Travis Boak, Justin Westhoff

GWS: 2 (2015: 1)

Heath Shaw

Dylan Shiel

IN: Shaw, Shiel

OUT: Ryan Griffin

North Melbourne: 2 (2015: 3)

Brent Harvey

Todd Goldstein

OUT: Nick Dal Santo

Sydney: 2 (2015: 3)

Lance Franklin

Josh P. Kennedy

OUT: Kieran Jack

Collingwood: 1 (2015: 1)

Scott Pendlebury

NO CHANGE

Gold Coast: 1 (2015: 3)

Gary Ablett

OUT: Harley Bennell, Nick Malceski

Melbourne, Essendon,* St Kilda, Carlton: 0

*Essendon’s Cale Hooker and Michael Hurley are ‘elite’ according to Champion Data. However both are suspended for the 2016 season.

THE 2016 AFL PROSPECTUS IS AVAILABLE FROM YOUR LOCAL NEWSAGENTS OR VIA THE CHAMPION DATA WEBSITE


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/champion-data-hawthorn-top-of-the-class-in-2016-west-coast-and-fremantle-hot-on-their-heels/news-story/6d845da1f98651040b6dd2cf08fb8787
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 08, 2016, 07:18:59 PM
McGovern....pleezzz.....
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on February 09, 2016, 02:38:34 AM
Hard to disagree there should be anymore 'elite' Tigers. Cotch should be in the elite class as his best is brilliant but he's been too inconsistent and last year's poor EF hangs over his head (and many of his teammates). I would also say as fantastic as Titch was up until his injury late in the season last year, he still hasn't performed in any of the 3 finals for whatever reason. Elite players bring their A-game to the big stage of finals. Rance and Jack were our two best and deserve the elite tag.
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: lamington on February 10, 2016, 01:09:59 AM
 Milo is elite in my eyes
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: Stalin on February 10, 2016, 08:06:34 AM
 
McGovern....pleezzz.....

He goes alright...
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: mat073 on February 10, 2016, 01:15:23 PM
We all love Titch Edwards and his past few seasons have been awesome.

However despite having the tag "elite" , I'm pretty sure opposition coaches would be far more concerned about curtailing the influence of Cotchin and Martin.

Champion data lists are pretty handy when you run out of napkins ( I was going to say toilet paper)
They certainly won't win you a final.
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: mat073 on February 14, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Just had a look at Shane Edwards stats in all 3 Elimination finals.

2013 - 11 disposals ( season average 18.2  )
2014 - 11 disposals  ( season average 17.8 )
2015 - 8 disposals ( season average 18.8  )

Gone a little under the radar this - Hardly the stats of an elite player.
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: Jonesracing82 on February 14, 2016, 12:35:56 PM
Just had a look at Shane Edwards stats in all 3 Elimination finals.

2013 - 11 disposals ( season average 18.2  )
2014 - 11 disposals  ( season average 17.8 )
2015 - 8 disposals ( season average 18.8  )

Gone a little under the radar this - Hardly the stats of an elite player.
i reckon going through all our players to have played in a Final the overall picture would be a bit disturbing
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 14, 2016, 09:28:58 PM
Just had a look at Shane Edwards stats in all 3 Elimination finals.

2013 - 11 disposals ( season average 18.2  )
2014 - 11 disposals  ( season average 17.8 )
2015 - 8 disposals ( season average 18.8  )

Gone a little under the radar this - Hardly the stats of an elite player.
This is unacceptable and he will NEVER be truly elite unless his "elite" type performances are in finals.
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on February 14, 2016, 09:39:03 PM
That's poo should be a whipping boy for those type of performances
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on February 17, 2016, 12:46:06 AM
Just had a look at Shane Edwards stats in all 3 Elimination finals.

2013 - 11 disposals ( season average 18.2  )
2014 - 11 disposals  ( season average 17.8 )
2015 - 8 disposals ( season average 18.8  )

Gone a little under the radar this - Hardly the stats of an elite player.
I have been there done this and complained bitterly about his performances in MOST big games. For a mid even his disposal average is way below average yet alone elite.
Title: Re: Deledio, Jack, Edwards & Rance are elite: Champion Data ...... (H-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on February 17, 2016, 01:36:39 AM
Just had a look at Shane Edwards stats in all 3 Elimination finals.

2013 - 11 disposals ( season average 18.2  )
2014 - 11 disposals  ( season average 17.8 )
2015 - 8 disposals ( season average 18.8  )

Gone a little under the radar this - Hardly the stats of an elite player.
This is unacceptable and he will NEVER be truly elite unless his "elite" type performances are in finals.

Not great reading but he did break his leg mid season. We need Shane back to the form he showed before injury.