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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on April 08, 2008, 06:57:36 PM
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Healy said 3aw's whispers reckon there's a connection between David Mandy and Sheedy coming back.
Caro said she doesn't believe that to be true. Some may want Sheedy back but she guaranteed Wallace wouldn't be sacked midseason and Sheedy won't coach Richmond.
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves, you cant see the forest through the trees my dear.
Might see you again at the Stokehouse Caro :shh
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i say we let wallace stay until the end of r22, we need the priority pick.
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Caro also said the media will get on Terry's case within the next 4 weeks given the draw - Freo away, Dogs, Hawks, Saints and Cats. Healy reckoned it was more like 2 weeks. Caro then said Terry will be forced to play the kids which will mean another spoon.
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i feel our season was over at quarter time on sunday.
no chance to win next 4 weeks. none whatsoever...
we r doomed
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we need early picks, we need to clean out the senior players en masse at the end of the season. Its time to rid Richmond of players who cant bring team success or have been unable to lead the club to team success. All senior players over 25- OUT!
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I rather play Joel Bowden than JON
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we are dammed if we do and dammed if we dont
we are doomed
gold coast here we come
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Youd be spewing if you were Melbourne, they could go winless in 2008 and there priority pick will be at the end of the 1st round. Richmond can and must scoop the pool. We must tank. Rich and Hurley at Punt Rd please.
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Will? Definitely? Give me a break
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves,
Really 100% sure on this Jack as a current event ???
I think :nope :nope :shh
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i want success, i dont care who the coach is, if wallace stays or goes i dont care.
all i want is success and im rick of the rebuilding word
for how fricken long must we rebuild
we have 4 yrs of drafting unders wallace
no reason why all but the last yrs draftees are not in the side barring injury
too many bs cliches and soin week in week out
play the kids, we will gain no long term benefints by playing anyone who wont be here in 1-2 yrs
so stop selecting sugar, richo. joel, tuck, petts and even simmo.
give brown 3 more weeks to find his mojo again, or else pee him off. he is the only match winning game turner we have
march should order terry to do this or walk
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i want success, i dont care who the coach is, if wallace stays or goes i dont care.
all i want is success and im rick of the rebuilding word
for how fricken long must we rebuild
we have 4 yrs of drafting unders wallace
no reason why all but the last yrs draftees are not in the side barring injury
too many bs cliches and soin week in week out
play the kids, we will gain no long term benefints by playing anyone who wont be here in 1-2 yrs
so stop selecting sugar, richo. joel, tuck, petts and even simmo.
give brown 3 more weeks to find his mojo again, or else pee him off. he is the only match winning game turner we have
march should order terry to do this or walk
100% agree sick and tired of the old excuses. they should thank us supporters because any other team with our pathetic success would be interstate or not exist.
we deserve better and we dont get it. FACT.
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Caro said she doesn't believe that to be true. Some may want Sheedy back but she guaranteed Wallace wouldn't be sacked midseason and Sheedy won't coach Richmond.
Sheedy will not coach Richmond, Caro is on the money.
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Healy said 3aw's whispers reckon there's a connection between David Mandy and Sheedy coming back.
Caro said she doesn't believe that to be true. Some may want Sheedy back but she guaranteed Wallace wouldn't be sacked midseason and Sheedy won't coach Richmond.
Caro is very tight with both Mandie and Sheeds. If this was going to happen, they would have used her to sow the seeds publically and get everyone used to the idea.
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves, you cant see the forest through the trees my dear.
Might see you again at the Stokehouse Caro :shh
I'm surprised you consider yourself an insider.
Caro cant stand Miller.
And she is much closer to Sheeds because of her dad than Wallace. So if he wanted the job, she'd be pushing it hard.
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after learning that wallce was not at training and let jade rawlings run the session which apparantly was a circus, i hope if terry wallace isnt sacked asap , that he was a stroke! screw this prick, he is our coach ffs and wont even attend/run training!
dont give a poo what anyone says, this behaviour is not on!
sack wallace and miller innediately
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves, you cant see the forest through the trees my dear.
Might see you again at the Stokehouse Caro :shh
I'm surprised you consider yourself an insider.
Caro cant stand Miller.
And she is much closer to Sheeds because of her dad than Wallace. So if he wanted the job, she'd be pushing it hard.
Caro cant stand Miller,? thats LAUGHABLE . beleive what you want.
Do you have coffee with people you cant stand do you :banghead
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Will? Definitely? Give me a break
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves,
Really 100% sure on this Jack as a current event ???
I think :nope :nope :shh
Have actually been in the company of one of them when the other has called, you can beleive what you want.
Can also tell you that Wallet and caro catch up for coffee on a regular basis, if you want the adddress, I will let you know :thumbsup
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wallace is an unwanted unloved dog, send him to the pound and out him down
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Will? Definitely? Give me a break
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves,
Really 100% sure on this Jack as a current event ???
I think :nope :nope :shh
Have actually been in the company of one of them when the other has called, you can beleive what you want.
Can also tell you that Wallet and caro catch up for coffee on a regular basis, if you want the adddress, I will let you know :thumbsup
No worries. This is an easy one to resolve. I'll ask her at work tomorrow. ;)
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Well Caro.
I hope you read websites. I will say this. Sheedy will coach Richmond.
Will? Definitely? Give me a break
Problem is Caro that you , Miller and wallace are thick as thieves,
Really 100% sure on this Jack as a current event ???
I think :nope :nope :shh
Have actually been in the company of one of them when the other has called, you can beleive what you want.
Can also tell you that Wallet and caro catch up for coffee on a regular basis, if you want the adddress, I will let you know :thumbsup
No worries. This is an easy one to resolve. I'll ask her at work tomorrow. ;)
Go right ahead. :thumbsup
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thats a good one journo's haunting the forums for something to write :rollin
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No worries. This is an easy one to resolve. I'll ask her at work tomorrow. ;)
Caro always works from home...
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Not midseason..
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Come round 12 when we are 1 win and 11 losses, the issue of when he will be shown the door wont be an issue ,will it ? you live and die by your results.
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In R12 we will unleash our Glenn Archer types. Anyone know whatever happened to our Glenn Archer types? Are they on holidays or something lol?
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Come round 12 when we are 1 win and 11 losses, the issue of when he will be shown the door wont be an issue ,will it ? you live and die by your results.
and risk losing the priority pick with a late season surge under a new coach??
I doubt it. In fact if they did I'd be angry if that eventuated.
If it's to eventuate, end of year is my preference.
That's not to say you can't put the feelers out from the half way point.
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In R12 we will unleash our Glenn Archer types. Anyone know whatever happened to our Glenn Archer types? Are they on holidays or something lol?
Yeah, JON :lol
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Come round 12 when we are 1 win and 11 losses, the issue of when he will be shown the door wont be an issue ,will it ? you live and die by your results.
and risk losing the priority pick with a late season surge under a new coach??
I doubt it. In fact if they did I'd be angry if that eventuated.
If it's to eventuate, end of year is my preference.
That's not to say you can't put the feelers out from the half way point.
We wont have any supporters or sponsors by then.
feelers already out
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Dont worry JON will never see another game in the Richmond seniors
& whos Caro think she is, she just a reporter for the media & the daughter of a long forgotten President
she can write anything it will be published, what dribble come out of that mouth Monday night
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what is extremely funny about all this is that if you ask someone from the club, they think things are fine :chuck :chuck
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We wont have any supporters or sponsors by then.
Doubt it.
You think obviously are thinking for the short term Jack and a few token wins will appease despite the risk of losing pick 1?
Wallace stays until the end of the year.
I'd prefer he walks rather than have to sack him anyway.
Every week he's there he's under more pressure to resign.
That's good.
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Have actually been in the company of one of them when the other has called, you can beleive what you want.
Can also tell you that Wallet and caro catch up for coffee on a regular basis, if you want the adddress, I will let you know :thumbsup
How long ago sice they all had coffee together Jack is the question... 1 week, 2 months, 2 years?
Things can change over time and you may find 1980 is right :thumbsup ;D :shh
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Come round 12 when we are 1 win and 11 losses, the issue of when he will be shown the door wont be an issue ,will it ? you live and die by your results.
If there was an appropriate coach ready and waiting, you may have a case.
There's not, so you dont.
March is a lot more professional than you give him credit for. I'm sure he'll have feelers out through agents and 3rd parties, but unless a Mark Williams becomes available and willing to coach Richmond, he wont be showing his hand before the end of the season.
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No worries. This is an easy one to resolve. I'll ask her at work tomorrow. ;)
Caro always works from home...
You forgot to say gotch!
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Not midseason..
ok..
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Come round 12 when we are 1 win and 11 losses, the issue of when he will be shown the door wont be an issue ,will it ? you live and die by your results.
If there was an appropriate coach ready and waiting, you may have a case.
There's not, so you dont.
March is a lot more professional than you give him credit for. I'm sure he'll have feelers out through agents and 3rd parties, but unless a Mark Williams becomes available and willing to coach Richmond, he wont be showing his hand before the end of the season.
There are heaps of coaches who could take the Richmond job
Guy McKenna
Kevin Sheedy
Ashley Prescott
John Longmire
Gary Ayres
Michael Voss
Chris Bond
Paul Hudson
Austin Jones
Bradley Gotch
Leigh Tudor
Peter Sumich
Craig Lambert
Leon Cameron
there are alot of people who could coach Richmond they just have to make the hard decisions in dropping players who dont give us enough reward on the ground, gee l could even do that
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what is extremely funny about all this is that if you ask someone from the club, they think things are fine :chuck :chuck
thats exactly my point when chatting to other tiger supporters.
yeah we r going well, rebuilding this that.
what a disgrace this club is in at the moment and i dont care what any of u say this club is in no worse position than when frawley was in charge.
we are currently in a train wreck of our own.
jon, meyer, pettifer. i mean these guys are absolute duds and will not win us a game let alone a flag. who takes the blame for picking them.
i dont want any of u to start comparing our draft picks with say the pies or bliues because i dare say there is not one team who has had as many 1st round draft picks than us and have got jack to show for it. foley and king and they were blood-y rookies.
we r so stuffed its not funny. and i cant understand how some of u cant see it.
there are so many of u who constantly defend this team, week in week out. players like sugar, petts, tuck get constantly defended like as if they are superstars or untouchable
cant you idiots see they are the cancer!!!!!!! they are the ones causing this team failure
ur captain marks 50 out and handballs to another dud in pettifer. wuldnt u know!!! a missed goal.
its a god dam cancer that is ripping this club to shreads. wallace not at training yesterday well that reinforces my feelings of the bloke.
what a useless individual he really is.
whether its round 5 or round 12 i cant weait to see the back of wallace, miller and our pathetic captain
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I found this on the HUN Superfooty site.
any chance of coaching the tigers sheeds?
also, if i was to writeup a starting twenty-two idea for richmond, could you please pass it on to terry wallace? cheers
Rob of Southbank (Reply)
Tue 08 Apr 08 (10:37am)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Comment. All I need is to say one thing and it’s a headline. Are you a mole from the newspapers?
Are you Caroline wilson or Mike Sheahan. It’s not Terry Wallace, is it? Or even Greg Miller, the marshmallow.
Super Coach
Tue 08 Apr 08 (11:03am)
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I found this on the HUN Superfooty site.
any chance of coaching the tigers sheeds?
also, if i was to writeup a starting twenty-two idea for richmond, could you please pass it on to terry wallace? cheers
Rob of Southbank (Reply)
Tue 08 Apr 08 (10:37am)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Comment. All I need is to say one thing and it’s a headline. Are you a mole from the newspapers?
Are you Caroline wilson or Mike Sheahan. It’s not Terry Wallace, is it? Or even Greg Miller, the marshmallow.
Super Coach
Tue 08 Apr 08 (11:03am)
Can tell you what the answer is
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whats the answer jacko :lol
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one guess
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what is extremely funny about all this is that if you ask someone from the club, they think things are fine :chuck :chuck
thats exactly my point when chatting to other tiger supporters.
yeah we r going well, rebuilding this that.
what a disgrace this club is in at the moment and i dont care what any of u say this club is in no worse position than when frawley was in charge.
we are currently in a train wreck of our own.
jon, meyer, pettifer. i mean these guys are absolute duds and will not win us a game let alone a flag. who takes the blame for picking them.
i dont want any of u to start comparing our draft picks with say the pies or bliues because i dare say there is not one team who has had as many 1st round draft picks than us and have got jack to show for it. foley and king and they were blood-y rookies.
we r so stuffed its not funny. and i cant understand how some of u cant see it.
there are so many of u who constantly defend this team, week in week out. players like sugar, petts, tuck get constantly defended like as if they are superstars or untouchable
cant you idiots see they are the cancer!!!!!!! they are the ones causing this team failure
ur captain marks 50 out and handballs to another dud in pettifer. wuldnt u know!!! a missed goal.
its a god dam cancer that is ripping this club to shreads. wallace not at training yesterday well that reinforces my feelings of the bloke.
what a useless individual he really is.
whether its round 5 or round 12 i cant weait to see the back of wallace, miller and our pathetic captain
On ladder position and win/loss ratio I have to agree with you but in terms of potential I can't.
The difference between our club in 2004 and 2008 is the age of our list and the promise of development and success.
I would much rather lose with a team of young players who are developing than a team of older players.
But thats just me
Stripes
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one guess
You know I really like this site but the constant negative and even hateful banter is really energy sapping. I don't care if we have the worst coach in the history of history, why do we need to use every thread and every post to spear him, the players and the club.
We all know the strengths and weaknesses of our coach and playing list and we al know the predicament we are currently in so why not use the forum to discuss the issues at hand rather than revisiting the same banter day in day out?
I think it is normal to vent your frustration after a bad game or even a series of poor preformances by players and the coaching panel but when it becomes relentless you end up becoming worse than an opposition supporter - because you offer no hope or distribute no praise.
Shouldn't we be about celebrating the club we love. Discuss the issues yes but if you can not find even one positive in the club maybe its time to change teams.
We know the score...lets try and support the club to change it. Not everything needs to be about how bad TW is - please :pray
Stripes
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one guess
noooooooooooooo bingo ;D
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one guess
You know I really like this site but the constant negative and even hateful banter is really energy sapping. I don't care if we have the worst coach in the history of history, why do we need to use every thread and every post to spear him, the players and the club.
We all know the strengths and weaknesses of our coach and playing list and we al know the predicament we are currently in so why not use the forum to discuss the issues at hand rather than revisiting the same banter day in day out?
I think it is normal to vent your frustration after a bad game or even a series of poor preformances by players and the coaching panel but when it becomes relentless you end up becoming worse than an opposition supporter - because you offer no hope or distribute no praise.
Shouldn't we be about celebrating the club we love. Discuss the issues yes but if you can not find even one positive in the club maybe its time to change teams.
We know the score...lets try and support the club to change it. Not everything needs to be about how bad TW is - please :pray
Stripes
fair call stripes :gotigers
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Onya stripes - Been getting a bit pizzed off about this myself of late.
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Onya stripes - Been getting a bit pizzed off about this myself of late.
if your peeed off , it should be directed at the club, not me, I dont coach or run the place.
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Sometimes what ppl type gets misread, wasn't having a go directly at you Jack.
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It's me! It's me!
Looks like he's saying, "Kiss me! Kiss me!"
Smart-ass motherfucker! ROFL @ DC's av
Just the whole negative vibe from some that just never ends.
We have what we have - just would prefer people to me more productive in their critisim than just slaggin players, coaches, posters off consatantly.
:gotigers
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Maybe Jack is right and Sheeds is coming to the Tigers after seeing him in those AquaMAX ads. After all, coaching the RFC and
hot water go hand in hand! :lol
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Maybe Jack is right and Sheeds is coming to the Tigers after seeing him in those AquaMAX ads. After all, coaching the RFC and
hot water go hand in hand! :lol
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm :shh
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Jack the more I think about Sheeds current association with AquaMAX the more I think he's preparing to coach us....
Our forward line is as mobile as a row of hot water services, We take too long to warm up, We blow a valve in high pressure situations and We go cold just when We need them to be running hot! :lol
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Onya stripes - Been getting a bit pizzed off about this myself of late.
Ditto
Good post Stripes
if your peeed off , it should be directed at the club, not me, I dont coach or run the place.
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This isn't an attack on you Jack but an observation...
For just on 12 months now (yep 12 months) you have been going on and on about the same thing.
You even went as far last year to make predictions about Sheedy coming back to coach the RFC - it didn't happen but now 3 rounds into the the season you've started with it again. You may want him to coach Richmond but that doens't mean he is the right person to coach Richmond
You say you are not a disgruntled ex employee but whether you want to admit it or not your posts on anything Wallace comes across that way - after 12 long months that can happen.
We know you don't think he can coach, we know you don't like him or Miller but at times it just seems you are getting more pleasure these days out seeing us lose and other teams who most view as our enemies win.
That's why stripes post was such a goodin
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I don't believe this is a one off phenomia. In some threads people gets drawn up into the hate cycle and there can be 15 different posters all making extrodinary statements about how we need to clean out the whole place from president to new recruits!
It's not any one person but I think those people who are the most angry at our current situation can often be the most vocal which can intimidate those of us who still see some glimmer of hope there into not posting at all.
I think everyone gets disheartened by our results when nothing ever seems to change and it is much easier to find fault sometimes than cling to hope but I believe all this negativity only ultimately pulls us down and turns us into something we are not.
Who wants to spend all there time on this site finding faults - does that make you feel better? Even if people are proved right and we end up falling into a heap again - will you be happy?
I would rather try and find solutions, cling to some semblance of belief than fall the other way....even if I am eventually proved wrong.
Don't you come to this site because you are passionate about the Richmond Football club? Then why are you seeking to constantly pick over it and find fault.
I don't think there is a poster who visits this site who doesn't love the Tigers yet there is scores of people who get on this site and rubbish our club every day. Surely there is some thing there still to like....
Stripes
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;D :rollin :lol we come to vent cause we know the problems over the years & no-one is changing the faults
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Onya stripes - Been getting a bit pizzed off about this myself of late.
Ditto
Good post Stripes
if your peeed off , it should be directed at the club, not me, I dont coach or run the place.
::) ::)
This isn't an attack on you Jack but an observation...
For just on 12 months now (yep 12 months) you have been going on and on about the same thing.
You even went as far last year to make predictions about Sheedy coming back to coach the RFC - it didn't happen but now 3 rounds into the the season you've started with it again. You may want him to coach Richmond but that doens't mean he is the right person to coach Richmond
You say you are not a disgruntled ex employee but whether you want to admit it or not your posts on anything Wallace comes across that way - after 12 long months that can happen.
We know you don't think he can coach, we know you don't like him or Miller but at times it just seems you are getting more pleasure these days out seeing us lose and other teams who most view as our enemies win.
That's why stripes post was such a goodin
I tell you the problem I have.
Both Miller and Wallace left other clubs to come to punt road and left the clubs they were at in a mess , FACT .no argument there.
The RFC is heading in the wrong direction (football wise) because of these two clowns, nothing personal, but neither can do there job with much efficentancy.
Recruiting has been a disgrace. game plans and set ups on match day ,ordinary . You all take pot shots at me, I am neither the recuiter or the coach.
WP , you say I dont think he can coach, I know he cant coach, if anyone on here knows that, I should have some idea sitting with him on most weeks for 2 years ::)
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And further WP. Danny Frawley has more idea than Terry Wallace
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On a serious note, lets say that
1) Terry has the backing of the board and they believe in continuity so much that he has until the end of next season, no matter what.
2) The board realise we are not going to make the finals before then
What new performance indicators can you set for Terry so that we get a list with the max upside and avoid a Spud-style trading of draft picks to try and get some short term success? If you aren't going to sack him, how do you prepare for the possibility of life after him, make sure the club ends up in a decent position end 2009 whilst all the time giving Terry the thought that he might just yet get a contract extension if he does well in developing a young list.
I mean in an ideal world you sack a coach who isn't getting results (and I mean individual player skill improvements and gameplan development as much as ladder position) but the club seems to want to project an image of unity at the moment.
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I should have some idea sitting with him on most weeks for 2 years ::)
Many bag Wallace, a lot of close friends do, I have tried to stick by him but the way we are going this year could be the final straw.
Those that bag him have many differing views some you can agree with some you don't, just depends on which way you interpret footy, after all one certain way is not allways the right way.
Can you answer me one ?
With Richo whether or not the players are intructed to bomb it to him or they just do it when they lose the plot.
Has Wallace ever instructed a player or players to shadow Richo and tell them to get front and square whenever he leads out.
Tiger fans can bag Richo but if he is the only guy demanding the ball and 2 or 3 defenders are ready to get it too ground and rebound why cant we have the crumbers there to negate this tactic or win the ball themselves.
Does he do this or players just do not listen, what suggestions did you ever make and what responses did Wallace give.
I would get someone like Tambling this week and tell him he is never to be more than 20 metres from Richo for the day and when he takes off for a lead Tambling is there at every contest, at least this will get Tambling to the ball more often as well as in normal play and we may see what he is made (RT) of.
Not real sure of what wallaces philosophy is, but me being as simple as I am would like to see some kiddy stuff.
Build a spine have your smalls supoorting your talls down the middle and if in doubt kick the Stuff out of the thing, at least it will be 50 metres down the field in a 50/50 contest instead of 10 handballs round in a circle and turnover from exactly the same spot as 10 Possies ago.
If it results in a 20 point loss scoring 20 odd goals at least I will be able see some type of plan evolving.
Said I would not comment on individuals until round 10, but I firmly beleive the cattle "recuiting" hasn't been as bad as some make out and it is just the mental problem upstairs that is causing us problems atm. Where that is coming from well meh .....
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I will answer the Richo question for you.
They ""usually "play the ""hit up"" forwards high to allow room to move up the ground.
The problem with Richo is that Terry always wants to stand a Schulz or a Hughes/pattison down with Richo.
They are instructed to kick to the top of the square, problem is that they all take each others space. Thats why you nearly always see a third man up against Richo . he is never isolated one out. ::)
Team mates fault and coaches fault.
Richo is at fault also for demanding the ball wide, who,s fault, thats the coaches. Should drag him every time ge goes wide.
Can tell you a few years ago Wallet had a rule for Richo, if he plays on inside 50 from a mark, he was automatically dragged, doesnt do it any more it seems, Wallet gone soft
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Richo is at fault also for demanding the ball wide, who,s fault, thats the coaches.
done it his entire life - every coach
Should drag him every time ge goes wide.
Can tell you a few years ago Wallet had a rule for Richo, if he plays on inside 50 from a mark, he was automatically dragged, doesnt do it any more it seems, Wallet gone soft
Richo just refuses to learn from being dragged.
Id say terry gave up....and who can blame him
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soft. just soft
terry the kleenex wonder boy
richo is the most overrated fwd to play the game
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WP , you say I dont think he can coach, I know he cant coach, if anyone on here knows that, I should have some idea sitting with him on most weeks for 2 years ::)
Without running the risk of you thinking i am taking a pot shot Jack - if it was so apparant to you why did you hang around 2 years
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Looks like he's saying, "Kiss me! Kiss me!"
Smart-ass mothereffer! ROFL @ DC's av
Hehe, thanks CUB, I think it's from Team America, I may have to watch it again, can't remember what ol BL was saying :thumbsup
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WP , you say I dont think he can coach, I know he cant coach, if anyone on here knows that, I should have some idea sitting with him on most weeks for 2 years ::)
Without running the risk of you thinking i am taking a pot shot Jack - if it was so apparant to you why did you hang around 2 years
2 years was enough I can assure you. And can tell you Wallace hates beening told anything, thus he has a problem, its his way or highway. the asistants have little impact on match day