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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 06, 2018, 03:40:27 PM
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VFL Round 10
Williamstown (4-4, 9th) vs RICHMOND (7-1, 1st)
Sunday, 10th June @ Burbank Oval (Point Gellibrand Oval), Williamstown.
Start time: 2:10 pm
Broadcast:
TV: Live on Ch 7 (Victoria).
http://websites.sportstg.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=124984095&c=1-118-0-477472-0&pool=1 (http://websites.sportstg.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=124984095&c=1-118-0-477472-0&pool=1)
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Good news.
We fly in Friday night so a Sunday viewing will be perfect.
:thumbsup
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2.10pm Sunday @ Williamstown
Richmond
B: 39. N. Drummond, 42. R. Garthwaite, 45. P. Naish
HB: 31. O. Markov, 46. B. Miller, 37. C. Menadue
C: 17. D. Rioli, 26. A. Miles, 64. T. Silvestro
HF: 48. L. Baker, 38. N. Balta, 29. S. Bolton
F: 44. T. Stengle, 40. C. Coleman-Jones, 21. J. Townsend
R: 47. I. Soldo, 27. S. Lloyd, 32. C. Ellis
Int: 58. J. Aarts, 54. J. Ballard, 55. R. Bathie, 78. D. Coffield, 67. B. Credlin, 73. J. Ernest, 74. R. Hayward, 52. S. Mannagh
23P: 60. C. Thompson
In: S. Mannagh, C. Menadue, R. Bathie, R. Hayward, D. Coffield, B. Credlin
Out: J. Fletcher, S. Morris
http://vfl.com.au/peter-jackson-vfl-teams-round-10/
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Richmond VFL Round 10 team
B: Naish, Garthwaite, Drummond
HB: Coffield, Miller, Markov
C: Rioli, Ballard, Silvestro
HF: Baker, Balta, Bolton
F: Townsend, Coleman-Jones, Stengle
R: Soldo, Lloyd, C. Ellis
I/C: Mannagh, Aarts, Ernest, Bathie, Thompson
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-09/vfl-tigers-name-round-10-team
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Richmond VFL Round 10 team
B: Naish, Garthwaite, Drummond
HB: Coffield, Miller, Markov
C: Rioli, Ballard, Silvestro
HF: Baker, Balta, Bolton
F: Townsend, Coleman-Jones, Stengle
R: Soldo, Lloyd, C. Ellis
I/C: Mannagh, Aarts, Ernest, Bathie, Thompson
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-09/vfl-tigers-name-round-10-team
Soldo out with an infected toe. CCJ to ruck.
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Into em 2 dads
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Markov off gingerly after being nailed in a tackle. Right knee being checked out.
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Shocking defensive turnover by Willy. Their defender kicked it sideways straight to Bolton directly in front 35 out. Floats back nicely for a goal :gotigers.
Rich 1.0-6
Will 0.0-0
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Checking his right cruciate out...
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Down to two on the bench at the moment. Silvestro getting stitches to just above his right eye.
Good defensive mark by Garthwaite stops the Willy attack. We get a stoppage at HF. Ballard's mongrel torpedo is marked 30 out by Stengle. Goal :gotigers
Rich 2.0-12
Will 0.1-1
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Checking his right cruciate out...
Ice applied to his right knee so he's done for the day you would think :-\.
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We go forward again from the centre clearance to the goalsquare but Willy rebound coast to coast. Thankfully they miss again from the right pocket.
12 - 2
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Arts on the wing. Chips short to Mannagh at HF. Goes long and Townsend takes a clunking strong contested pack mark 15 out almost directly in front. Goal :gotigers
Rich 3.0-18
Will 0.2-2
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Great grab
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Top mark reaching above the contest by Naish. Goes wide to Arts on the wing. Inside 50 to CJ's lead to the boundary but it's spoiled for a throw-in. Forward pressure creating multiple stoppages. Willy's clearing kick marked by Coffield 70 out. Goes long. lloyd snaps but it trickls for a throw-in by the point post. Rushed through for a point.
19 - 2
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Goal to Willy.
19 - 8
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Another to them. Pretty loose defending on transition by us. Started with a poor overcooked kick inside our F50 that split to Tiger forwards and found the Willy defender.
19 - 14
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Another poor overcooked kick by Ballard. Willy clear but we get it back via Stengle. Goes long to the pocket but's spoiled in the pack for a throw-in 20 out.
Willy clear and we lose a 2-v-1 on the wing (CJ too easily pushed aside). Willy go forward and Bolton is pinged for HTB. Goal to them.
19 - 20
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Not good signs. Willy working harder in the midfield and first in in the contest and winning the clearances. All Willy the last 10 mins.
19 - 21
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Need to lift for sure. They're definitely hungry & working a lot harder
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Centre Clearances: 2-4
Contested footy: 27 - 37
Bathie has a running shot along the boundary but misses everything.
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Fantastic by the little men
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Disgusting approach by Stengle there
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Blind handball in the corridor only 20 out from their goal by Bathie straight to a Willy forward but lucky they miss.
3 speedsters work together. Rioli keeps the ball in front of him and the chasing Willy defenders along the wing. Gets it to Bolton who hits up Stengle on the lead 25 out. Misses the set shot though.
That's the siren.
Quarter time
Richmond 3.2-20
Williamstown 3.4-22
Goals: Bolton, Stengle, Townsend.
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No one yet putting their hand up for senior selection. Garthwaite would come in for Astbury if he's ankle is still
So far a repeat of the seniors with out mids getting beaten badly in the contested footy and clearances especially in the last 15 mins of that first qtr.
Disposals: 61 - 93
Contested: 31 - 43
Uncontested: 31 - 48
Clearances: 6 - 15
Inside 50s: 13 - 11
Dimma talking to Rioli at 1/4 time.
Lloyd with just 3 possies.
CJ is acquitting himself very well early. 11 hit-outs - 7 to advantage.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/with_replies
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Good hands by Mannagh to Ballard in the centre. Goes long to no one but a handy stalling bounce allows Stengle to tackle the Willy defender. Rioli to Townsend for a goal :gotigers
Rich 4.2-26
Will 3.4-22
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We go immediately forward. Ball-up 15 out. Rioli snaps but just misses.
27 - 22
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Haven’t seen him get much footy but Balta has some real toe for a big guy. Balta, Garthwaite and CJ probably some of the more encouraging developing talls we’ve had in a while.
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Mannagh's kick out of D50 went straight to an opponent. Then Coffield kicks it OOTF. Fortunately they miss.
27 - 23
Lloyd looking proppy. Left ankle and he's gone off.
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Benny Hill stuff by both sides under pressure in the last few minutes.
From the throw-in. Bolton out of the ruck and almost kicks one of the goals of the year. Goal umpire says it was touched before the whole ball crossed the line. Not obvious it was touched before it crossed.
28 - 23
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Townsend is talking like a manic.
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Lloyd getting his left ankle strapped but he'll be coming back on.
We've lifted our intensity this qtr.
Tackles: 15 - 6
Clearances: 7 - 6
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Too loose on defensive transition through the corridor. Goal to Willy.
28 - 29
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Good work in close by Rioli. We kept getting it closer to goal via quick hands and taps. Clever by CJ on the goal-line taps it down to Thompson who goals :gotigers
Rich 5.4-34
Will 4.5-29
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Goal to Willy.
34 - 35
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Good jump and tap by Balta in the ruck at the centre bounce.
LOL. Towner breaks out of a tackle against 3 Willy players. Ordinary kick forward though.
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Good tackle by Baker forces the turnover. Rioli sweeping handball out of traffic to Ellis who nails it on the run from 40 out :gotigers.
Rich 6.4-40
Will 5.5-35
27 mins Q2
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Half-time
Richmond 3.2 6.4-40
Williamstown 3.4 5.6-36
Goals: Townsend 2, Bolton, Stengle, C.Ellis, Thompson.
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Stengle shoulder?
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I like the intensity as it shows out the panic merchants that aren’t yet cut out for senior footy.
Too many are very panicky.
Those that look (from what I see) composed; Rioli, Townsend, Hayward, Garthwaite, C. Ellis. Stengle.
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Sitting here gee this is painful to watch :P
Rioli looking terrific. Class above
15 mins in that qtr showed why we need Townsend in the AFL. Physical presence.
Mrakov has ice in the inside of his knee
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We're only going at 50% disposal efficiency. That's what is costing us.
C.Ellis 12
Mannagh 10
Rioli 9
Lloyd 9 (4k, 5h, 8 cont.).
Disposals: 141 - 190
Contested: 75 - 84
Tackles: 43 - 33
Clearances: 18 - 26
Source: Ch 7
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And some of these VFL boys are poor.
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Sitting here gee this is painful to watch :P
Rioli looking terrific. Class above
15 mins in that qtr showed why we need Townsend in the AFL. Physical presence.
Mrakov has ice in the inside of his knee
Yep. Rioli & Townsend should be ins for the senior side next week.
Willy's pressure and attack on the footy has been very good to be fair. Best VFL opposition we've faced this year. Durnell (sp?) is having a day out.
Agree too many of our VFL listed players have been ordinary today.
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Why isn’t graham playing?
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CJ nice tap down to Bolton who weaves and splits the red sea and fires from 50. Fades left.
41 - 36
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WOW! Starts from defensive side of the wing. Takes 4 bounces running away from his chasing opponent. Shoots from 35 along the boundary but misses.
42 - 36
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Poor again on defensive transition. Willy go coast to coast for a goal :scream.
6.6-42 a piece.
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Drummond out the centre. Scramble for the loose ball. Gets to Rioli who shows his class with the classy banana goal :bow :gotigers.
Rich 7.6-48
Will 6.6-42
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Willy go forward from the centre clearance and mark. Thankfully they miss.
And another miss to them.
48 - 44
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Why isn’t graham playing?
He’s been rested this week, was never named
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Lloyd just shirtfronted a Willy player (left him flat out on the turf) and has been reported.
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Um, Forceful front on contact? He didn’t get his head.
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Rioli copped friendly fire from Ballard.
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Willy goal. Game getting very heated. Spotfires starting up.
48 - 50
Um, Forceful front on contact? He didn’t get his head.
Yep, looked all chest on replay.
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Rioli classy hands to Ellis but his kick spreads wide of Stengle and it's a throw-in. Willy clear but we get it back and Naish pumps it inside 50. Ball-up. Wily clearing kick is marked by Balta. Loads up inside 50 again. Willy clearing goes to a 2-v-1 but Ballard and Naish muck it up 45m out and the Willy one wins out and clear.
Willy get it inside their forward 50 but Bolton clears. We get it forward and Stengle gets the free for HTB. On the angle in the pocket. Misses.
49 - 50
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How the stuff does he miss that
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Camp Brown on the money. Ump called delib, should have been directly in front
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We had possession and kicked it forward of the wing but an off the ball free gifts Willy a free back at their HF line. They get the mark inside 50 but they luckily for us missed a sitter.
49 - 50
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stuff me there's been stupid football and very poor defensive nous happening
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Camp Brown on the money. Ump called delib, should have been directly in front
Apparently called HTB :huh.
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stuff me there's been stupid football and very poor defensive nous happening
Need to get our focus back on the footy. Too much niggle out there off the ball.
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Camp Brown on the money. Ump called delib, should have been directly in front
Apparently called HTB :huh.
Was def deliberate. Commentators didn't hear the call since they were talking to some Willy bloke on the bench
stuff me there's been stupid football and very poor defensive nous happening
Need to get our focus back on the footy. Too much niggle out there off the ball.
:thumbsup
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Goal to them.
49 - 56
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Pushing a bloke over after taking an uncontested mark is 50, ump.
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Terrible last 10 mins by us.
Lucky. They should be 3 goals up.
49 - 57
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Balta has some wheels sheesh
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.2 6.4 7.7-49
Williamstown 3.4 5.6 8.9-57
Goals: Townsend 2, Bolton, Stengle, C.Ellis, Rioli, Thompson.
Willy got on top in the contested possies again in that 3rd qtr: 33 - 47
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Balta has some wheels sheesh
And once again we lost our forward structure and had no one for him to kick to :banghead.
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Disappointing qtr.
Lost the plot
And with what seems to be the norm this week; too many players MIA
Willy have been smart though. They know to get Hayward one out in their F50 and they will get a very simple mark
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Willy deserve the win.
Our blokes (except a few) look like they arent full time footy players more so than the willy players.
Defenders ldon’t want to punch for some reason and we don’t look like taking a mark inside f50.
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Steve Morris a mammoth loss
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Willy deserve the win.
Our blokes (except a few) look like they arent full time footy players more so than the willy players.
Defenders ldon’t want to punch for some reason and we don’t look like taking a mark inside f50.
Reckon this is the most VFL listed blokes we've had playing this season and shows.
Though, that doesn't excuse the efforts of the likes of Bolton, Lloyd to name 2
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Leading possies:
C.Ellis 19
Rioli 14
Naish 13
Disposals: 203 - 286
Contested: 108 - 132
Tackles: 65 - 51
Clearances: 30 - 35
Inside 50s: ? - 40
Marks In50: 4 - 13
Source: Ch 7
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Joe Daniher-esque paying that grab.
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Dumb dumb dumb.
Aarts, you shepherd and allow Balta to gather and run with the ball. Would have been an easy inside 50 instead of a turnover.
Lloyd kick out of defence straight to a Willy player in the corridor. Turnover.
They miss but then get it back and goal. Not good signs!
49 - 64
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Clueless biatch is stuffen ruining this game. Get her back in the canteen for Geez sake
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That was HTB in the goalsquare to us but not paid ::).
Rioli goals anyway :gotigers
Rich 8.7-55
Will 9.10-64
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Sling? Gee whiz.
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Sorry, but that shiela umpire is poo.
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Continually been beaten in contested marking contests. A repeat of the seniors.
What a joke of a decision. Forward frees to the opposition like the seniors too ::).
Terrible kick Naish. Running through the centre but hits a Willy defender.
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Rioli being accessed on the bench for the top of his left foot which was stepped on :help.
Point to Ellis.
56 - 64
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Clueless biatch is stuffen ruining this game. Get her back in the canteen for Geez sake
She is a stuffen embarrassment
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Clueless biatch is stuffen ruining this game. Get her back in the canteen for Geez sake
She should be serving the steamed dimmies.
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Aarts panicked. Quick kick drops short. No score.
Willy clear and Balta gifts them a downfield free set shot 40 out. Lucky they miss.
56 - 65
14 mins Q4
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Willy working harder. Getting numbers to the contest and cleaner.
56 - 71
Hard to see us winning as we can't get a mark inside 50 and score.
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We’re stuffed now.
Reckon Balta moves like Rance.
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Thompson's shot from 45 is touched.
Naish has a ping from the boundary and sprays it across the goal.
57 - 71
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Dumb dumb. Look where you're kicking.
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We go forward again and Bolton is pushed out. 25 out. Goal :gotigers
Rich 9.9-63
Will 10.11-71
23 mins Q4
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Geez we've been smashed in the centre clearances. Outnumbered all the time.
Goal to them. Most likely the sealer.
63 - 77
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Whether it’s seniors or magoos we can’t buy a clearance. 8 points down we needed to win that one in the centre, instead space opens up and the opposition clear it.
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Great speckie by Bolton.
Another butchered ball inside 50 by us to our small forward line.
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Smother by Ellis. Leads to Bathie's goal.
Rich 10.9-69
Will 11.11-77
27 min Q4
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Annnnndd another goal from a clearance.
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Once again another easy centre clearance :banghead.
Goal to them.
69 - 83
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Aarts good mark at 55 and finds Stengle 35 out. Doesn't make the distance :P and touched through.
70 - 83
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How nice does Balta move.
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These boys have cost me money. Bring back Coburg
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Ellis around the body. Aarts can't get it. Rushed point.
71 - 83
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Wtf?
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If have possession for 10 secs and drop the ball it';s HTB, ump.
You cheat, umpire. That was a clear mark to Stengle.
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Siren. Lost by 12 pts.
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No wonder AFL umpires are putrid if this is where they are coming from.
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Final Score
Richmond 3.2 6.4 7.7 10.11-71
Williamstown 3.4 5.6 8.9 12.11-83
Goals: Townsend 2, Rioli 2, Bolton 2, Stengle, C.Ellis, Thompson, Bathie.
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If that is the next generation of umpires then the game is rooted
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No wonder AFL umpires are putrid if this is where they are coming from.
I know people are whacking the female ump but ump number 22 was worse.
Spent the entire afternoon guessing, don't remember once when he was in a decent position to make a decision. But his sprints in to ball up were truly magnificent
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Really embarrassing effort by so many
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Rioli is doing some extra running and sprints after the game. So he's okay. Clearly, upping the workload for his first senior game next week.
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No wonder AFL umpires are putrid if this is where they are coming from.
I know people are whacking the female ump but ump number 22 was worse.
Spent the entire afternoon guessing, don't remember once when he was in a decent position to make a decision. But his sprints in to ball up were truly magnificent
It was pretty garbage all round, I think the female ump was just more noticeable so she gets singled out but it was evenly poo. I think we got ripped off with holding the ball a lot. So many tackles we laid would have at least been rewarded in AFL.
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Whether it’s seniors or magoos we can’t buy a clearance. 8 points down we needed to win that one in the centre, instead space opens up and the opposition clear it.
i could be wrong but wasnt it a few years ago when we were right up with clearances?
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We were as bad as the umps.
You don't deserve win when you get smashed in contested footy and clearances (esp. centre clearances). Really missed Soldo big time today.
Most of our VFL listed players had shockers while disappointingly many of our AFL-listed didn't fire a shot despite knowing senior spots were on the line after our loss to Port.
Rioli and Towner would be the only ones deserving of a senior spot.
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Best was C Ellis and Towner had a decent crack. Rest were average inc Rioli
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Whether it’s seniors or magoos we can’t buy a clearance. 8 points down we needed to win that one in the centre, instead space opens up and the opposition clear it.
i could be wrong but wasnt it a few years ago when we were right up with clearances?
Rings a bell, and being up there with scoring from clearances too. Wasn't it we kicked it to the pocket so if it went out we were a good chance of scoring from the stoppage? Foley and Tuck were pretty rough around the edges but they were good at winning that ball. Without Prestia too much falls on to Cotch and Dusty. This is probably where Graham needs to lift. He can be great at applying pressure but playing at the coal face he's going to have to start winning some ball.
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BOG UMPIRES
Cheats
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No wonder AFL umpires are putrid if this is where they are coming from.
I know people are whacking the female ump but ump number 22 was worse.
Spent the entire afternoon guessing, don't remember once when he was in a decent position to make a decision. But his sprints in to ball up were truly magnificent
:lol you make me laugh WP. :lol
Let’s not pot an female umpire because she’s a girl?
Everyone watching where I was were laughing at her decisions as she was terrible, blind Freddie could see it and even my blues mate was shaking his head. Can’t deny it because We could hear her voice through the tv speakers.
I’m guessing it’s because she’s used to umpiring the chicks games and she’s instructed to pay marks that aren’t marks or pay agreesive tackles as sling tackles. :rollin
What I will say in her defence was that she was clearly the best centre bouncer on the field. Unfortunately she couldn’t make correct decisions on most occasions.
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The sling tackle was plainly the worst decision. It was just so wrong it's not even funny.
How can you even be allowed to umpire when you do not even know the rules?
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The sling tackle was plainly the worst decision. It was just so wrong it's not even funny.
How can you even be allowed to umpire when you do not even know the rules?
I’m guessing that’s a sling tackle in chicks footy like some of the marks she paid that weren’t marks.
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Good game of footy. Pretty young team of ours out there today.
I'm worried were getting tired at both levels.
Bye can't come quick enough
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I actually liked Bolton's game today. Tackled and was mercurial.
Balta and CCJ are raw but they will be special.
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:lol you make me laugh WP. :lol
Let’s not pot an female umpire because she’s a girl?
Everyone watching where I was were laughing at her decisions as she was terrible, blind Freddie could see it and even my blues mate was shaking his head. Can’t deny it because We could hear her voice through the tv speakers.
I’m guessing it’s because she’s used to umpiring the chicks games and she’s instructed to pay marks that aren’t marks or pay agreesive tackles as sling tackles. :rollin
What I will say in her defence was that she was clearly the best centre bouncer on the field. Unfortunately she couldn’t make correct decisions on most occasions.
It's not about gender, don't know why you and everyone else have made it about gender
Overall I thought ump 22 was thw worst of the 3. Number 14 was hopeless, ditto number 8. Gender has nothing to do with it. The 3 of them were insipid but IMV number 22 was the worst
Funnily enough where I was sitting all the Willy supoorters were potting her even they got what 3-4 in row in the 3rd. For one decision they went off their collective noodles because she didn't give them 50. For one of them they didnt realise number14 was a woman until half way through the last quarter :lol
I was at the game not watching on the TV so will be interested to sit down and watch the replay
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After watching some our kids for a full game live today I'd be very surprised if Naish, Coleman-Jones and Miller play AFL this season. All a very long way off
Raw talent there but would really struggle at AFL level
Balta should be given a shot, but probably later in the season
And FWIW Rioli looked very sore coming off after the game. why they sent him back out for the last 10 minutes beggars belief
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After watching some our kids for a full game live today I'd be very surprised if Naish, Coleman-Jones and Miller play AFL this season. All a very long way off
Raw talent there but would really struggle at AFL level
Balta should be given a shot, but probably later in the season
And FWIW Rioli looked very sore coming after the game. why they sent him back oit for the last 10 minutes beggars belief
Was stepped on the same foot as in GF. High chance of injury recurrence. Ridiculous bad luck.
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Almost forgot
Mrakov was on crutches after the game. Pressure bandage (think that's what its called) on his knee
Choi as at the game, on crutches with a big boot, slpint thingee
Didn't see too many AFL blokes there
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Almost forgot
Mrakov was on crutches after the game. Pressure bandage (think that's what its called) on his knee
Choi as at the game, on crutches with a big boot, slpint thingee
Didn't see too many AFL blokes there
Markov, not Mrakov. The latter was a former poster WP. :lol
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The Captain had his kid there
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Markov, not Mrakov. The latter was a former poster WP. :lol
Oops
:rollin
And Doc, ice on the inside of the knee = medial, PCL or ACL?
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Markov, not Mrakov. The latter was a former poster WP. :lol
Oops
:rollin
And Doc, ice on the inside of the knee = medial, PCL or ACL?
Most likely medial ligament. They checked him for an ACL tear and from what I could see his knee was stable but that was from my lounge chair....
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After watching some our kids for a full game live today I'd be very surprised if Naish, Coleman-Jones and Miller play AFL this season. All a very long way off
Raw talent there but would really struggle at AFL level
Balta should be given a shot, but probably later in the season
And FWIW Rioli looked very sore coming off after the game. why they sent him back out for the last 10 minutes beggars belief
After watching Millers game today, I'd be surprised if he makes the VFL team next week.
Something would have to dramatically change to convince me he won't be delisted at years end. Where is his so called amazing speed and athleticism? Low intensity jogging is all I've seen. Didn't impact one contest today.
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After watching some our kids for a full game live today I'd be very surprised if Naish, Coleman-Jones and Miller play AFL this season. All a very long way off
Raw talent there but would really struggle at AFL level
Balta should be given a shot, but probably later in the season
And FWIW Rioli looked very sore coming off after the game. why they sent him back out for the last 10 minutes beggars belief
After watching Millers game today, I'd be surprised if he makes the VFL team next week.
Something would have to dramatically change to convince me he won't be delisted at years end. Where is his so called amazing speed and athleticism? Low intensity jogging is all I've seen. Didn't impact one contest today.
He had a bad one no doubt but last week was excellent. Some of these young guys are getting tired and need a break.
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After watching some our kids for a full game live today I'd be very surprised if Naish, Coleman-Jones and Miller play AFL this season. All a very long way off
Raw talent there but would really struggle at AFL level
Balta should be given a shot, but probably later in the season
And FWIW Rioli looked very sore coming off after the game. why they sent him back out for the last 10 minutes beggars belief
After watching Millers game today, I'd be surprised if he makes the VFL team next week.
Something would have to dramatically change to convince me he won't be delisted at years end. Where is his so called amazing speed and athleticism? Low intensity jogging is all I've seen. Didn't impact one contest today.
He had a bad one no doubt but last week was excellent. Some of these young guys are getting tired and need a break.
Admittedly I missed that game but Balta and CCJ were good today. Just surprised at his low intensity and understand that some may be playing sore and getting tired but thought the taller boys were rotating games off to freshen them up.
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Balta, Naish and CCJ played well as did Rioli, Bolton and Stengle but Ellis was our best today by some margin :clapping
Most VFL guys played pathetic except Aarts who should be on an AFL list :shh
Not talking about the umps as it gives me headaches :banghead
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Forgot to mention Townsend :clapping and hats off to Bolton for taking mark of the year...it was incredible :cheers
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And Gath was solid again :clapping
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Whether it’s seniors or magoos we can’t buy a clearance. 8 points down we needed to win that one in the centre, instead space opens up and the opposition clear it.
i could be wrong but wasnt it a few years ago when we were right up with clearances?
Rings a bell, and being up there with scoring from clearances too. Wasn't it we kicked it to the pocket so if it went out we were a good chance of scoring from the stoppage? Foley and Tuck were pretty rough around the edges but they were good at winning that ball. Without Prestia too much falls on to Cotch and Dusty. This is probably where Graham needs to lift. He can be great at applying pressure but playing at the coal face he's going to have to start winning some ball.
we miss prestia big time. its as obvious as the eye can see and our wins against cella dwellers have hidden that big crack.
Big game this week. Our biggest for the year IMO given the ladder.
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CCJ has a great leap
With experience he will start clunking those grabs and then look out
Interesting your comments about Naish; The Machine, I was disappointed. Thought he appeared way of the pace at times. A very nice kick but worried about other parts of his game, especially the reading of the play. Probably expecting too much too soon? As i posted earlier can't see him palying AFL this year, long term prospect which is good thing
Again, interesting re Bolton, didnt like his game today. I get agitated when blokes wont chase. A number of times today he wouldn't chase. Did some nice things but overall I was disappointed
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CCJ has a great leap
With experience he will start clunking those grabs and then look out
Interesting your comments about Naish; The Machine, I was disappointed. Thought he appeared way of the pace at times. A very nice kick but worried about other parts of his game, especially the reading of the play. Probably expecting too much too soon? As i posted earlier can't see him palying AFL this year, long term prospect which is good thing
Again, interesting re Bolton, didnt like his game today. I get agitated when blokes wont chase. A number of times today he wouldn't chase. Did some nice things but overall I was disappointed
Funny that on the TV, it looked like Bolton had several chases and tackles and was one of our bests. Go figure. I'd like to see the stats.
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The sling tackle was plainly the worst decision. It was just so wrong it's not even funny.
How can you even be allowed to umpire when you do not even know the rules?
Correct
Watched on TV
The girl umpire was embarrassing
Guess work used on many occasions
The sling tackle was a joke
As for marks that were paid and weren’t there
Laughable
Cameron Brown gave her a decent whack on Channel
7
Don’t think the players took her serious either
Shocking display !!!
And I don’t bag Umpires but today was laughable
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Bests for me were
Townsend
Stengle
Rioli
Bolton
CEllis
Can see Towno and Rioli coming back in next week - hopefully wombat gets the nod too, deserves a shot. Garthwaite ready to step up if required to replace Astbury
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The sheila was as useless as t@s on a field umpire of men's footy.... :shh
With Astbury injured Garthwaite sure picked a fine time to have his first real shocker....
Bolton - seems to be working harder and always loks dangerous but still too much style and not enough substance for mine...seems almost incapable of simple percentage play...these are not exhibition matches son...:shh
My boy Baker very disappointing......
Townsend arguably our best....
CEllis probably next best but still doesn't fill me confidence....
Miller....see Baker......(no pun intended)...
Naish....kid shows he can play but still a long way away....
Lloyd...meh....who cares....
Stengle is the no frills vesrion of the player Bolton should be.... :shh
CCJ still miles from rucking in the VFL let alone the AFL as expected at his age...looked promising around the ground but would 've been nice if could've actually kicked it to his own players every now & then...
Balta out of his depth for theee quarters , BOG for one...you'll get that with prodigous talents from time to time...
No Rioli next week at eiher level ...don't stuff around & tempt fae with foot injuries...save him for adfter the bye...need him in August & September not June & July... :shh
23rd man Thompson showed some nice glimpses.... :shh
Aarts & Ballard best of the VFL blokes....
In sum: Forward entries & clearences replicated the seniors so no surprise the result did too...both frustratingly stupid losses to clearly inferior sides that, even taking the incompetant officiating and falling asleep for a quarter into account, we still should've beaten comfortably and going away.. .... :shh
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... hats off to Bolton for taking mark of the year...it was incredible :cheers
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2018-06-10/vfl-r10-boltons-massive-hanger
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfULJ6eVAAEyW9r.jpg)
Source: https://twitter.com/m_hancock29/status/1005722548871413765
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Peter Jackson VFL 2018
Williamstown 3.4 5.6 8.9 12.11 (83)
Richmond 3.2 6.5 7.7 10.11 (71)
GOALS:
Williamstown: Schultz 3 Kempster 2 Cavarra 2 Rodda Gibbons Dunell Bewley Wheeler
Richmond: Rioli 2 Bolton 2 Townsend 2 Bathie Stengle C.Ellis Thompson
BEST:
Williamstown: Masters Wheeler Bewley Rodda Charleston Gibbons
Richmond: Townsend C.Ellis Rioli Bolton Drummond Coleman-Jones
https://membership.sportstg.com/results/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=4138&pg=1&a=MR
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Daniel Rioli limped off during the fourth quarter with an ankle problem, but returned to finish out the game.
Rioli is likely to come under strong consideration for Richmond’s round 13 clash with Geelong after another strong showing in the VFL.
Playing his fourth game back, Rioli finished with two goals and 15 possessions in the 12-point loss.
Sam Lloyd was unusually quiet, kept to just 15 possessions, and was reported.
Shai Bolton had 14 possessions, kicked two goals and took a screamer in the final term.
Jacob Townsend also booted two majors (and had 14 touches).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-10/around-the-state-leagues-whos-starring-for-your-club
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VFL Tigers fall to Williamstown
Brenton Mann
AFL media
June 10, 2018 5:39 PM
“Individual commitment to a group effort: that is what makes a team work.”
Words of NFL icon, Vince Lomardi when discussing what it takes to be defensively imperious.
Williamstown and Richmond laid claim to being the top-two defensive outfits in the VFL this year going into round 10, both giving up just nine-goals a game on average in 2018.
An arm-wrestle was nigh guaranteed on Sunday at Williamstown Football Ground, when the Tigers attempted to topple the Seagulls for the first time, in a long time.
The Tigers and Seagulls fought out an absolute classic, with Williamstown prevailing, 12.11 (83) to 10.11 (71).
The Tigers hadn’t beaten the Seagulls since re-entering the competition, and went about rectifying that on a rare, windless day at the sun-drenched Point Gellibrand.
The Tigers burst out of the blocks with the opening three majors to Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle and Jacob Townsend, before the Seagulls hit back with venom.
Any thoughts of Richmond pulling away from their less fancied hosts were quashed when Williamstown slammed on three majors of its own to finish the first term.
Dominant Tiger ruckman, Ivan Soldo was a late exclusion, which left the majority of the rucking duties on the shoulders of youngster, Callum Coleman-Jones.
Coleman-Jones relished the early responsibility, showing poise beyond his years, to lead his midfield with purpose and flair. The budding ruckman finished the day with 17 disposals, 32 hit-outs and four clearances, in what was a pleasing display.
The Tigers bench was cut in half for large chunks of the opening term, when Oleg Markov (knee) and Tom Silvestro (cut eye) left the ground in the hands of the trainers. Markov injured his knee in the opening minute of the game and didn’t return, while Silvestro re-emerged after some running repairs.
Young bull, Charlie Thompson (jaw) and goal-sneak, Tyson Stengle (ribs) also left the field to be assessed by the trainers in what was a willing opening half.
At times, Richmond’s bench resembled the emergency ward of a local hospital, with the medical staff kept busy for most of the day.
Richmond wrestled back the lead early in the second term via some brilliant work by Stengle, Daniel Rioli and Jacob Townsend, before Williamstown hit back.
The pressure gauge neared boiling point, as both sides harassed, scrapped, stalked and mauled their opposition.
The Tigers’ class rose to the top in the back-end of the second term.
Firstly, Coleman-Jones fended-off a Seagulls’ defender in the goal-square, before deftly palming the ball down to Charlie Thompson, as the young-gun snapped through his debut goal.
Corey Ellis then cruised out of congestion, accepted a handball, hit 35 and speared through his first for the day, handing the Tigers’ a slight four-point lead at halftime.
Six lead changes in the first half, and it was like finals footy in June.
The game went up another notch in the second half, with both sides throwing their weight around.
Sam Lloyd was reported after a bump on Williamstown’s, Lachlan Spark, which seemed to jolt the Seagulls into action.
Daniel Rioli coolly slotted the first goal of the second half, but Williamstown arrested back the ascendency on the back of three unanswered goals.
The Tigers struggled for the majority of the day to find a winner in the air forward of centre, as the Seagulls controlled the air in their defensive half.
Williamstown defender, Leigh Masters patrolled his back-50 with superiority and chopped off countless Tiger forays forward.
With the Seagulls clutching to an eight-point lead at the final change, the ball was in the Tigers’ court to strip Williamstown of its momentum and make a charge of its own.
The Seagulls started the better in the final term, with ill-discipline starting to creep into the Tigers’ game.
However, a Daniel Rioli goal against the tide sparked Richmond into action.
The young Tigers fought and scrounged right to the death, but every time they mounted a challenge, the Seagulls answered straight back, and eventually wore them down.
Jacob Townsend was a colossus, continually applying bone-jarring physical pressure, either up forward or through the midfield.
Townsend finished the day with two goals, 16 disposals and 11 tackles, while Corey Ellis tolied manfully to finish with 28 disposals, six clearances, seven tacklesa and a classy goal.
Late goals to Shai Bolton and Ryan Bathie cut the margin to 12 points, but it was ultimately, a bridge too far.
Williamstown laid down the challenge, and It was only a lack of polish and poise at critical times, which eventually cost the Tigers snagging victory.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-10/vfl-tigers-fall-to-williamstown
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C.Ellis 24 disposals (13 kicks 11 handballs) 4 marks 4 tackles 2 I50s 4 R50s 1.1
CCJ 15 disposals (6 kicks 9 handballs) 3 marks 3 tackles 1 I50 35 hitouts
Lloyd 15 disposals (10 kicks 5 handballs) 1 mark 7 tackles 4 I50s 1 R50
Rioli 15 disposals (4 kicks 11 handballs) 1 mark 1 tackle 3 I50s 2 R50s 3 hitouts 2.1
Naish 15 disposals (10 kicks 5 handballs) 1 mark 2 tackles 1 I50 5 R50s
Townsend 14 disposals (9 kicks 5 handballs) 4 marks 13 tackles 2 I50s 1 hitout 2.0
Bolton 14 disposals (9 kicks 5 handballs) 3 marks 5 tackles 3 I50s 1 R50 1 hitout 2.2
Balta 12 disposals (9 kicks 3 handballs) 4 marks 5 tackles 3 I50s 1 R50 13 hitouts 0.1
Stengle 10 disposals (9 kicks 1 handball) 5 marks 5 tackles 3 I50s 1.2
Drummond 10 disposals (6 kicks 4 handballs) 4 marks 2 I50 2 R50
Baker 8 disposals (4 kicks 4 handballs) 2 marks 1 tackle 2 I50 1 R50
Miller 8 disposals (2 kicks 6 handballs) 1 mark 1 R50 1 hitout
Garthwaite 6 disposals (4 kicks 2 handballs) 2 marks 1 tackle 2 R50
Markov 0 disposals, 1 tackle
Team Stats
Will-Rich
Disposals: 362-272
Kicks: 199-156
Handballs: 163-116
Freekicks: 30-13
Marks: 72-52
Hitouts: 36-59
Inside 50s: 52-51
Tackles: 63-81
Rebound 50s: 39-40
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/vfl-roast-toast-discussion-changes-for-williamstown.1195991/page-20#post-56180329
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The free kicks were very one sided. Most probably because that chick that was umpiring was just making it up as she went along. :rollin
She could bounce the ball though. :clapping
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The sling tackle was plainly the worst decision. It was just so wrong it's not even funny.
How can you even be allowed to umpire when you do not even know the rules?
The sling tackle against Garthwaite in the 3rd? Or the one in the final
Just watching the replay Garthwaite one
Decision wasn't made by the controlling umpire (number 14 aka the girl). Non officiating umpire (number 8 aka one of the blokes) made that call from 40 metres away. Terrible call
So which one didnt know the rules. ;D
The one in the final was just a pathetic decison, not in dispute
And watching the replay good 'ole number 22 (aka the other bloke) called deliberate against Drummond... after it can off his thigh
They were just great those umps, all 3 of them were hopeless
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VFL and development coach, Craig McRae's summary of how the Tigers’ players performed in last Sunday’s Round 10 match against Williamstown.
Corey Ellis
26 disposals, seven clearances, one goal and six tackles
“Corey was our most consistent player over four quarters, 26 disposals, seven clearances and a really classy goal. He is one player that can have his head held high for his performance. He had 13 contested possessions as well.”
Patrick Naish
18 disposals, four tackles, three inside-50s and five rebound-50s
“Played down back and is really learning how to defend consistently, sometimes he gets caught in-between. He’s improving, 18 disposals and I’d like to think we’re evolving him in different roles throughout his development, but it was an okay performance from Patrick.’
Daniel Rioli
16 disposals, two goals, two clearances and two tackles
“Played his first full game for the season, kicked two goals—one in particular was a nice snap around his body, 16 disposals and a four-quarter performance. We’d like his tackle numbers to be a little higher, but he looked more ready for AFL football this week.”
Sam Lloyd
16 disposals, 12 contested possessions, seven tackles and four clearances
“Was heavily tagged, had to fight for everything he got. He was reported on the day and it will be interesting to see what happens there. He had 12 contested possessions out of 16 (disposals) so he had to earn everything he got, seven tackles was a feature.”
Callum Coleman-Jones
15 disposals, 35 hit-outs, four clearances and seven tackles
“Played in the ruck, with (Ivan) Soldo a late withdrawal. It was a good opportunity for him, he had 35 hit-outs, which is pleasing. He competed well around the ground, and had 15 disposals and shows that the future’s bright for him in that role.”
Jacob Townsend
14 disposals, 14 tackles, two goals and four marks
“14 tackles, two goals and looked really strong in the aerial part of the game as well. He played above the level in terms of his competitiveness.”
Shai Bolton
14 disposals, two goals, five tackles and four clearances
“Playing good football at VFL level. Only 14 disposals but had a little bit of a pinch-hit in the midfield and up forward. Eight contested possessions, five tackles and two goals is a good output. Also, a VFL mark of the year contender from a pretty spectacular catch.”
Tyson Stengle
11 disposals, six tackles, one goal and four inside-50s
“Really looked sharp and dangerous early. We’ve been challenging him in recent weeks with the defensive side of his game and he had six tackles, kicked a goal and as always, used the ball really well.”
Noah Balta
11 disposals, four tackles, 13 hit-outs and three inside-50s
“Started forward, went into the ruck and then ended up back, so he’s got great flexibility. His athletic ability stands out for all to see, at times running down, bouncing the ball and taking players on, which we like. His aerial stuff is something we want to keep challenging him on, and keep getting better at. He only had one contested mark and had plenty of opportunities to have more.”
Liam Baker
10 disposals, two clearances, two tackles and two inside-50s
“It was a quiet day. He started forward and then went into the midfield a little bit. Ten possessions is probably the lowest he’s had for the season, so it wasn’t one of his best performances.”
Nathan Drummond
10 disposals, four marks and three rebound-50s
“Played half-back, again learning opportunities for him when his player goes up the ground. What involvement is needed from him in his role. He’s a really hard runner for us though, and gets back and supports the backline really well.”
Ben Miller
Nine disposals, two tackles and five contested possessions
“A strong contributor, hard to play on. I love it when he spoils strong and then follows up his work. He’s developing nicely for us.”
Ryan Garthwaite
Six disposals, two marks and two rebound-50s
“As always, someone we really rely on in defence. Anyone that plays on Ryan knows that they’re going to be in for a hard day. He continues to show his good form.”
Oleg Markov
“Unfortunately hurt himself in the very first contest of the day, which left us short down back and he was sorely missed.”
VFL-listed players
Jake Aarts
15 disposals, seven tackles and two clearances
“Continues to be one of our best VFL players. He’s such a strong competitor, seven tackles, nine contested possessions. He didn’t impact the scoreboard this week but was a real solid contributor for us.”
Jacob Ballard
14 disposals, 10 tackles, 10 handball receives and six inside-50s
“Plays a bit of wing, was our captain on the day, ten tackles, six inside-50s, which was the most of anyone on the ground. He’s a really strong competitor and led from the front.”
Charlie Thompson
14 disposals, four tackles, one goal and four inside-50s
“Our 23rd player, had 14 disposals and had limited minutes at times playing as an inside mid. Eight contested possessions and four tackles was something that we were pleased with.”
Tom Silvestro
13 disposals, three tackles, four clearances and four rebound-50s
“Played mainly wing, but we put him forward in the last quarter. He’s such a solid runner for us, gets up and back and is really integral to our team defence.”
Shaun Mannagh
13 disposals, five tackles, four clearances and five inside-50s
“Played his first game for a couple of weeks, came in and played his role well. He had opportunities to possess the ball more, he was around the contest more. Some good learnings for him. Nine of his 13 possessions were contested, so that’s a nice part of his game. We like to get the ball on the outside to him, so that’s symbolic of how the game was played.”
Joel Ernest
11 disposals, four rebound-50s and two tackles
“One of our VFL players, playing his third game off half-back. He can run-and-carry the ball and we want the ball in his hands more and look to change the angles and come into his own. I thought he defended solidly.”
Ryan Bathie
Nine disposals, five hit-outs, one goal and three inside-50s
“Was a forward/ruck for us. He didn’t impact the aerial contest, like others on the day. We needed a strong contest from him, only one mark wasn’t enough from him. Kicked a nice goal, late.”
Reuben Hayward
Eight disposals, one tackle and one rebound-50
“Came in and hasn’t played since early in the season. He was a 23rd eligible (player) but played as one of the normal 22 players. Played across half-back and a little bit through the wing. Lost a couple of aerial contests, which is an opportunity for him to improve.”
Daniel Coffield
Three disposals, three marks and two tackles
“Returned from injury, had been out for the whole pre-season and it was his first game back. He looked a bit rusty early, but I was pleased with how he progressed as the game wore on.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-12/vfl-report-round-10
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The sling tackle was plainly the worst decision. It was just so wrong it's not even funny.
How can you even be allowed to umpire when you do not even know the rules?
The sling tackle against Garthwaite in the 3rd? Or the one in the final
Just watching the replay Garthwaite one
Decision wasn't made by the controlling umpire (number 14 aka the girl). Non officiating umpire (number 8 aka one of the blokes) made that call from 40 metres away. Terrible call
So which one didnt know the rules. ;D
The one in the final was just a pathetic decison, not in dispute
And watching the replay good 'ole number 22 (aka the other bloke) called deliberate against Drummond... after it can off his thigh
They were just great those umps, all 3 of them were hopeless
The one in the last quarter where our player grabbed the jumper and swung the Williamstown player. How can you sling someone by the jumper? Especially if it usually requires 2 separate movements to be dangerous.....
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Biggest problem with the umpires at all levels is their positioning.
They are so poorly positioned they are either too far away or unable to see what's actaully happening they are guessing
It shines like a beacon at VFL level because the pace of the game is slower than AFL.
The number of times you could tell the bloke, the other bloke and the girl clearly guessed on Sunday because they were out of position was staggering
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Umpiring is 90% guess work at the best of times. I mean, literally its indoctrinated. They have to determine "intent" half the time = guesswork.
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Richmond forward Sam Lloyd will be unavailable for selection this weekend after accepting a one match suspension for rough conduct in the VFL last weekend.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-13/lloyd-to-miss-through-vfl-suspension