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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Loui Tufga on April 24, 2017, 11:32:54 PM
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Out....Lambert, Elton, Rioli (possibly injured)
In......Miles, Lloyd, Stengle.
Elton has showed enough to say he is hopless, Melbourne weren't even maning him up at times last night showing exactly how threatening he looks.
With Talia out let's bring in Lloyd who can play tall and at Least run.
Stingle ti come in only if Rioli is ingured....
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I've seen enough of Elton.
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Chol for Elton, Tank needs a chop out
Miles for menadue
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Miles in
Menadue out.
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Elton out - cant play a man short against the Crows.
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Out - Houli (scared)
- Menadue
In - Vlastuin (not scared)
- Cellis
Astbury extremely lucky that we are so lacking in KPP otherwise after his game tonight he should be sent packing to the twos. He was putrid!
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Houli was terrific tonight
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Houli was terrific tonight
Not sure what game you were watching Jack, but he was horrible.
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I must of watched the same game as Jack - Houli was one of our best .
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I must of watched the same game as Jack - Houli was one of our best .
His last quarter was the best 30 minutes he has played for a long time.
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Menadue was fine tonight and should stay...how good was that kick to Rioli :cheers
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Houli was terrific tonight
Not sure what game you were watching Jack, but he was horrible.
Last quarter was fantastic
Watch the replay
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I a Houli basher
Not tonight
Was super
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1st half Houli - dropped...2nd half Houli - retained.
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When the game there was to be won
Houli was there
Made a few mistakes and will where that , why ?
High risk high reward
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The hysteria.
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Out
Elton
Menadue
In
Chol
Miles/LLoyd
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When the game there was to be won
Houli was there
Made a few mistakes and will where that , why ?
High risk high reward
He is hardly "high reward"
He is the most soft footballer I've ever seen at Richmond. He hates body contact.
He is a shocking defender and panics when he gets the footy in congestion. Not a great quality for a defender. And his kicking that was once his assets is now only average.
Jack you rate Hunt but now he is gone and hopefully you can see that we can do better than him. Same goes for Houli.
He dropped a chest mark in the goal square because he is scared.
Thank God for Rance and Grimes because they defend for the entire backline.
BEllis which I hate with a passion as a footballer is making himself look like Glen Archer compared to Houli.
I just can't have him!
The only thing I liked last night that he did was when he gave away a 50, it was the first time in 4 years he showed ANY type of aggression. It's a shame he had to give away a 50 to do it.
I was at the game last night with 3 mates and all 4 of us cannot believe he gets a game and I guess maybe I didn't notice his last quarter last night as his first 3 were horrible.
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When the game there was to be won
Houli was there
Made a few mistakes and will where that , why ?
High risk high reward
He is hardly "high reward"
He is the most soft footballer I've ever seen at Richmond. He hates body contact.
He is a shocking defender and panics when he gets the footy in congestion. Not a great quality for a defender. And his kicking that was once his assets is now only average.
Jack you rate Hunt but now he is gone and hopefully you can see that we can do better than him. Same goes for Houli.
He dropped a chest mark in the goal square because he is scared.
Thank God for Rance and Grimes because they defend for the entire backline.
BEllis which I hate with a passion as a footballer is making himself look like Glen Archer compared to Houli.
I just can't have him!
The only thing I liked last night that he did was when he gave away a 50, it was the first time in 4 years he showed ANY type of aggression. It's a shame he had to give away a 50 to do it.
I was at the game last night with 3 mates and all 4 of us cannot believe he gets a game and I guess maybe I didn't notice his last quarter last night as his first 3 were horrible.
Stop drinking beer and watch the game....
I am a houli bachar and last night he won me over for another game at least
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Out: Elton, Menadue
In: Chol, Miles
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OUT
Menadue
Elton
IN
Vlastuin
Chol
How do we fit Edwards, Miles, Lloyd in the team?
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When the game there was to be won
Houli was there
Made a few mistakes and will where that , why ?
High risk high reward
He is hardly "high reward"
He is the most soft footballer I've ever seen at Richmond. He hates body contact.
He is a shocking defender and panics when he gets the footy in congestion. Not a great quality for a defender. And his kicking that was once his assets is now only average.
Jack you rate Hunt but now he is gone and hopefully you can see that we can do better than him. Same goes for Houli.
He dropped a chest mark in the goal square because he is scared.
Thank God for Rance and Grimes because they defend for the entire backline.
BEllis which I hate with a passion as a footballer is making himself look like Glen Archer compared to Houli.
I just can't have him!
The only thing I liked last night that he did was when he gave away a 50, it was the first time in 4 years he showed ANY type of aggression. It's a shame he had to give away a 50 to do it.
I was at the game last night with 3 mates and all 4 of us cannot believe he gets a game and I guess maybe I didn't notice his last quarter last night as his first 3 were horrible.
This is the worst post of the year. Was excellent last night Bachar. Like others here I'm often critical but to suggest he should be dropped after last night is trolling.
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Some gold here
Lambert Houli as out - what planet are you guys watching from :rollin
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Some gold here
Lambert Houli as out - what planet are you guys watching from :rollin
Yep forgot to mention Lambert. Was excellent last night.
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Houli was terrific tonight
Not sure what game you were watching Jack, but he was horrible.
Houli was one of our best, I sang his praises last night
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in Lloyd, Miles, Vlas
Omitt Elton, Mena and lemme think bout it
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When the game there was to be won
Houli was there
Made a few mistakes and will where that , why ?
High risk high reward
He is hardly "high reward"
He is the most soft footballer I've ever seen at Richmond. He hates body contact.
He is a shocking defender and panics when he gets the footy in congestion. Not a great quality for a defender. And his kicking that was once his assets is now only average.
Jack you rate Hunt but now he is gone and hopefully you can see that we can do better than him. Same goes for Houli.
He dropped a chest mark in the goal square because he is scared.
Thank God for Rance and Grimes because they defend for the entire backline.
BEllis which I hate with a passion as a footballer is making himself look like Glen Archer compared to Houli.
I just can't have him!
The only thing I liked last night that he did was when he gave away a 50, it was the first time in 4 years he showed ANY type of aggression. It's a shame he had to give away a 50 to do it.
I was at the game last night with 3 mates and all 4 of us cannot believe he gets a game and I guess maybe I didn't notice his last quarter last night as his first 3 were horrible.
Stop drinking beer and watch the game....
I am a houli bachar and last night he won me over for another game at least
I think it's pretty clear why I wouldn't play Houli. See above.
I had a couple of beers but I drove, so it's safe to say I was watching the game through clear eyes.
I think we can do better than Houli with what we have on our list.
Pretty simple.
And the fact Houli can win you over from that games says more about you than needs to be said.
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When the game there was to be won
Houli was there
Made a few mistakes and will where that , why ?
High risk high reward
He is hardly "high reward"
He is the most soft footballer I've ever seen at Richmond. He hates body contact.
He is a shocking defender and panics when he gets the footy in congestion. Not a great quality for a defender. And his kicking that was once his assets is now only average.
Jack you rate Hunt but now he is gone and hopefully you can see that we can do better than him. Same goes for Houli.
He dropped a chest mark in the goal square because he is scared.
Thank God for Rance and Grimes because they defend for the entire backline.
BEllis which I hate with a passion as a footballer is making himself look like Glen Archer compared to Houli.
I just can't have him!
The only thing I liked last night that he did was when he gave away a 50, it was the first time in 4 years he showed ANY type of aggression. It's a shame he had to give away a 50 to do it.
I was at the game last night with 3 mates and all 4 of us cannot believe he gets a game and I guess maybe I didn't notice his last quarter last night as his first 3 were horrible.
This is the worst post of the year. Was excellent last night Bachar. Like others here I'm often critical but to suggest he should be dropped after last night is trolling.
Trolling :lol
I don't rate Houli because he is terrible most of the time.
You yourself are even critical of him as you say but think that when I say we can do better than him it's trolling. Now there's some logic.
He is a weak link in our backline.
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Houli's last quarter was exceptional. Elton should be dropped. Menadue had a quiet game and must be at risk of being dropped. Ellis should be dropped but won't be. Would bring in Miles and Vlas. Lambert was quiet but did a few good pressure acts. If Lambert is dropped would bring in Lloyd.
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Houli had 10 possessions in last quarter
Hold in high regard at club
Won't get dropped
Keyboard warriors can tap on there Keyboard and protest as much as they want
Interesting you highlight Bachar for dropping chest mark but you don't say a word about Trent doing the same
Oh , it was a slippery ball
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Just analysed the replay and anyone wanting Houli and Lambert dropped are insane. I know it isn't fashionable but I also reckon Elton may have a breakout game soon. He crashed packs including one time where he was 1 on 4 and brought the ball to ground resulting in a goal chain. Remember the kid has played less than 10 games! Chol would get smashed in that circumstance. Oh...and 'Elise' is still a squib whose turnovers are usually his highest team stat. I'd rather keep Menadue in and develop him.
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INS: Vlastuin, Lloyd
OUTS: Elton, Menadue
And on Houli, last qtr his smother wasn't the sign of a soft player. He was excellent last night
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Chol hasn't the body yet for AFL it might kill him.
I'd consider playing Soldo ruck and Nankervis CHF. Is he ready or able yet?
We need a KPF so unfortunately Elton probably has to stay. Hopefully something clicks. :pray
Ins: Vlastuin. Miles.
Outs: Markov. Menadue.
At some stage hopefully C. Ellis can take the spot of B Ellis.
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Out Nankervis, Rioli, Butler
In Hampson, Batchelor, Miles,
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Ellis is definitely an overrated squib and that is amazing seeing nobody rates him.
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INS: Vlastuin, Lloyd
OUTS: Elton, Menadue
And on Houli, last qtr his smother wasn't the sign of a soft player. He was excellent last night
I agree
But need to replace Elton with another tall.
Can't expect Nankervis to ruck entire game
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INS: Vlastuin, Lloyd
OUTS: Elton, Menadue
And on Houli, last qtr his smother wasn't the sign of a soft player. He was excellent last night
So in general you don't think Houli is soft WP?
Smothering is the bare minimum of an AFL footballer I would think.
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Houli had 10 possessions in last quarter
Hold in high regard at club
Won't get dropped
Keyboard warriors can tap on there Keyboard and protest as much as they want
Interesting you highlight Bachar for dropping chest mark but you don't say a word about Trent doing the same
Oh , it was a slippery ball
Interesting you said the same about Hunt being held in high regard at the club, and I think everyone now knows his papers are stamped.
You mention Cotch dropping a chest mark and fair enough but Cotch has a lot of runs on the board and Houli does not.
You hang your hat on his last quarter but in reality his first 3 quarters were putrid.
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Houli had 10 possessions in last quarter
Hold in high regard at club
Won't get dropped
Keyboard warriors can tap on there Keyboard and protest as much as they want
Interesting you highlight Bachar for dropping chest mark but you don't say a word about Trent doing the same
Oh , it was a slippery ball
Interesting you said the same about Hunt being held in high regard at the club, and I think everyone now knows his papers are stamped.
You mention Cotch dropping a chest mark and fair enough but Cotch has a lot of runs on the board and Houli does not.
You hang your hat on his last quarter but in reality his first 3 quarters were putrid.
I would like to see Houli kick on his right like Cotch did with his left for that absolute bullet pass he kicked into the F50, actually I don't think I have ever seen Houli kick on his right
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Houli had 10 possessions in last quarter
Hold in high regard at club
Won't get dropped
Keyboard warriors can tap on there Keyboard and protest as much as they want
Interesting you highlight Bachar for dropping chest mark but you don't say a word about Trent doing the same
Oh , it was a slippery ball
Interesting you said the same about Hunt being held in high regard at the club, and I think everyone now knows his papers are stamped.
You mention Cotch dropping a chest mark and fair enough but Cotch has a lot of runs on the board and Houli does not.
You hang your hat on his last quarter but in reality his first 3 quarters were putrid.
I would like to see Houli kick on his right like Cotch did with his left for that absolute bullet pass he kicked into the F50, actually I don't think I have ever seen Houli kick on his right
You are right
Houli can't kick on his right
But he does his job
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INS: Vlastuin, Lloyd
OUTS: Elton, Menadue
And on Houli, last qtr his smother wasn't the sign of a soft player. He was excellent last night
I agree
But need to replace Elton with another tall.
Can't expect Nankervis to ruck entire game
Could McIntosh play that role?
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Giulio has a role to play and he played it well this week
Surely we can find a spot for Miles
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Elton out and Vlastuin in.
McIntosh to play the old ruck rover (relief ruck) against Ottens. I could see McIntosh playing out of the square as the second tall forward - relief ruck.
Miles is a very good player but i don't see him taking a spot at this stage unless we have an injury we don't know about.
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So in general you don't think Houli is soft WP?
Smothering is the bare minimum of an AFL footballer I would think.
No I don't think he is soft.
Yes I've seen him not attack contests the way he should at times but I could name a number in the side that have done that. He ain't alone there. I've seen him go in for the hard ball and almost get his head knocked off while others have stood back and offered no support
I also get that there are players no matter what they do people will not see it. But sometimes you have to take the blinders off and acknowledge when they do well. Had to do it last week with Astbury. Houli was very good last night. But; last night's effort needs to be the norm not the exception
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stuff it - we're not going to upgrade anyone before round 12 so just bring back Lennon for Elton....McIntosh, Grigg and anyone else 6' 4 and over can share back up ruck duties....or we can just concede the ruck like Geelong did v North and shark Adelaide's hit-outs....can't keep going into matches carrying these useless oversized inanimate objects posing as footballers just because they can occasionally impersonate a ruckman...did that enough over the last two years....
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I think Elton will keep his spot. Unfortunately but with only a few games under his belt will work in his favour.
Martin definitely didn't look 100 percent, not sure how bad he is but I think he may be a last minute decision.
Vlas in for martin?
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For me I would rest Martin and Prestia, would even rest Nanks, Put in Miles, Soldo, Bolton, Looks like a loss anyway so what does it matter? It is about where we are at the end of the season IMO.
I don't think it would be a momentum killer and has a lot of upside.
Comments??
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My thoughts are to not flirt with form.
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My changes would be:
Out Elton, Menadue,
In Lennon, Vlastuin
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In : Soldo or Chol, Vlastuin
Out: Elton, Menadue.
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Well vlastuin is pretty much a lock in so I reckon cya markov or menadue.. I'd prefer to see markov have another crack. Chol for Elton.
I reckon the selection panel might just drop short or mcintosh though.. we'll see.
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I could be proven wrong this week but apart from the playing style one of the most pleasing things this year is that omissions are occurring despite our winning form, a few years ago a winning streak would see the same players retained for roughly half a season before a change was made.
PS I think B Ellis must be on notice as he has lifted his intensity and attack on the ball.
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I could be proven wrong this week but apart from the playing style one of the most pleasing things this year is that omissions are occurring despite our winning form, a few years ago a winning streak would see the same players retained for roughly half a season before a change was made.
PS I think B Ellis must be on notice as he has lifted his intensity and attack on the ball.
Agreed.
My ins: Vlas, Soldo
Outs: Due, Elton
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Lambert and Houli out, what a ridiculous thing to say.
Lambert was fantastic and tough all night. Houli was a huge reason we won the game in that last quarter.
For me:
Out:
Menadue (sucked)
Butler (think he needs a rest)
In:
Miles (need toughness)
Lloyd (proven goal kicker, and tough)
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Our best chance to beat Adelaide is with pace...dropping Butler for Lloyd would be counter-productive to that aim - (I'd argue likewise for Menadue but he never uses his pace and has been crap anyway.)
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Crows are a a big strong mature side......id even put Maric in ahead of Elton.....couldn't do any worse and he would be pumped up against his old side
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In the Mix - Round 6
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
27 April 2017
RICHMOND
Nick Vlastuin (concussion) was kept out of the Tigers' Anzac Day eve clash against Melbourne as a precaution, but the Tigers are hopeful he will be fit to make the trip to Adelaide in round six. The 23-year-old missed back-to-back matches because of concussion in 2016.
Onballer Anthony Miles was on standby as an emergency in round five and his strong VFL form should be rewarded if the Tigers make any midfield changes.
Athletic tall Mabior Chol (three goals in the VFL) is also on the cusp if the Tigers choose to replace Todd Elton, with Ben Griffiths (concussion) unlikely to return.
Half-forward Ben Lennon (one goal in the VFL) has been in and out of the team and is jockeying with Sam Lloyd, who was held over as an emergency against the Demons, for a chance in attack.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-26/in-the-mix-for-round-six
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Adelaide Crows star Daniel Talia still a chance to tackle Richmond star Jack Riewoldt.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/adelaide-crows-star-daniel-talia-still-a-chance-to-tackle-richmond-star-jack-riewoldt/news-story/592fddcdd4764c28bdbc0e66ff51f048
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Watched the JLT game again. We must keep using Pace as a weapon. If it is a free flowing game I have no doubt that we will win.....no change to the side for me.
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Looks like Thalia will play.
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highly doubt they will risk talia...vlas will definitely come in for...probably menadue...that will be it imo although id like to see chol in for you know who
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Pretty sure someone here said the other week that 2 pm Thursday was the deadline for clubs to promote rookies if they wanted to select them for the next match?