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Title: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 18, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?

Id be happy with any of the above, but have a gut feel we will end up selecting Adams.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 18, 2011, 02:40:18 PM
I picked Docherty for no other reason than he appears to have a build ready to play a senior level

And his combine reuslts were good
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tiga on November 18, 2011, 03:24:54 PM
Docherty for mine but he may go earlier. Adams would be my second pick out of that lot
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on November 18, 2011, 03:32:10 PM
I think they'll risk it on Kavanagh if he is still available.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: dwaino on November 18, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
So hard to call without truly knowing what GWS' plan is. IMO we'll go best available over filling a need and thinking maybe Adams, Kavanagh, Docherty and in that order. I'd be super keen on Docherty though happy with just about any of the names floating about.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: torch on November 18, 2011, 08:25:02 PM
I think we should get an inside midfielder! Adams my pick!
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 18, 2011, 08:39:07 PM
Adams or Doherty would be a sweet sweet outcome  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Penelope on November 18, 2011, 08:41:58 PM
which one of those kids is toughest mentally?
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 18, 2011, 08:46:49 PM
Good question.

They all have positives in this respect (that's why we have short listed them).
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: mightytiges on November 18, 2011, 10:18:23 PM
Patton, Coniglio, Tyson, Wingard, Longer and Hoskin-Elliot seemed locked in as six of the top 10. Buntine, Greene, Tomlinson and Sumner I think will be also gone before pick 15. The next 4 before ours then depends on whether GWS reach for a couple of other KPPs leaving a few mids we may be keen on to slip down to pick 15. Docherty seems to be the one we've being linked to although he's not strictly a midfielder; he's more a HBFer. You would draft him to eventually take over Newy's role or to free up Lids to push up the ground. Kavanagh and Grigg are more pure midfielders likely to be still around at our pick.

Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: one-eyed on November 19, 2011, 01:03:05 PM
The AFL website thinks Markworth will be gone before our first pick ...

The bio-medicine student had figured in calculations for clubs in the late teens, but latest word has him under strong consideration to be snapped up by the Giants in the first 14 picks

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125751/default.aspx
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: cub on November 19, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
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Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Mr Magic on November 19, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
Adams
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on November 19, 2011, 07:04:33 PM
Elton could be the outsider. Big player could fit into a CHF position. Good mobility can take a grab. Seems like a nice kick. Anyone seen him play this season and can offer an opinion.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tigtuff12 on November 20, 2011, 10:43:54 AM
think we'll go Adams - the way they were talking re his "interview skills" & leadership ticks a couple of boxes our recruiters spoke of when they said that these were qualities that were high on their list of priorities when deciding who they'd take...be happy with Kavanagh as well but not sure if they'd be willing to risk it due to injury worries (hopefully doesn't come back and haunt us re Fiola, Tambling etc.......)
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tigs2011 on November 20, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
I want it to be Adams but think he's gone. I voted other (McKenzie or Dev Smith)
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: RedanTiger on November 20, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
After reading Quayle's l;ist in the Age I think we will take Tom Sheridan at 15.

And Jordan Murdoch at 26 as a medium Half Forward.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: one-eyed on November 22, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
From twitter:

owenhlewis Owen Lewis: 
"Are the Tiges going to get anyone decent at 15?"

Brett Anderson from Inside Football: 
"Yep. Docherty and Ellis the two most likely right now."

owenhlewis Owen Lewis:
"don't know who I want more....probably docherty"

Brett Anderson from Inside Football: 
"Definitely Docherty.....gun!"

Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tigs2011 on November 22, 2011, 03:22:02 PM
From twitter:

owenhlewis Owen Lewis: 
"Are the Tiges going to get anyone decent at 15?"

Brett Anderson from Inside Football: 
"Yep. Docherty and Ellis the two most likely right now."

owenhlewis Owen Lewis:
"don't know who I want more....probably docherty"

Brett Anderson from Inside Football: 
"Definitely Docherty.....gun!"

Heard Emma Quayle said the same thing. We will get Docherty if Lions overlook him. GWS haven't even interviewed him so doubt they take him.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: gerkin greg on November 22, 2011, 03:48:18 PM
Weren't they saying the same thing last year about Heppell? The Lions overlooked him and so did we  ;)
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tiga on November 22, 2011, 03:56:39 PM
Weren't they saying the same thing last year about Heppell? The Lions overlooked him and so did we  ;)
Yeah but Gerks they were picks 5&6 and he only slipped to 8. This year we're starting at 15
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: gerkin greg on November 22, 2011, 04:27:20 PM
when i wink you better listen tiga  >:(

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

got it?
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: The Cotch on November 22, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
I honestly can't see Docherty being available at our pick. Unless Adams, Docherty, Sumner, are available, Kersten by the length of the Flemington straight for me. I wouldn't be disappointed with Kavanagh or Ellis either at 15.

At 26, Ellis, Markworth, Murdoch or Williams.

If we land that exacta we've already had a fine off-season.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: gerkin greg on November 22, 2011, 04:36:31 PM
Funny how you knock McKenzie for having no endurance yet apparently Kersten ticks enough boxes for you to overlook his horrible tank

and he's an inbetweener too

shocking stuff The Cotch  ;D
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tiga on November 22, 2011, 04:39:32 PM
when i wink you better listen tiga  >:(

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

got it?

Sorry Gerks, thought it was a nervous tick.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: The Cotch on November 22, 2011, 04:41:34 PM
Kersten ticks all the boxes but his tank yes.

McKenzie on the other hand.....

Because my opinion differs to you, it's shocking? I've told you why I don't rate McKenzie.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: JVT on November 22, 2011, 04:50:49 PM
I honestly can't see Docherty being available at our pick. Unless Adams, Docherty, Sumner, are available, Kersten by the length of the Flemington straight for me. I wouldn't be disappointed with Kavanagh or Ellis either at 15.

At 26, Ellis, Markworth, Murdoch or Williams.

If we land that exacta we've already had a fine off-season.
Adams / Docherty / Sumner would be fantastic at pick 15 and I would be extremely pleased with any of the 3. My opinion differs to you on Kersten / McKenzie though, I don't rate Kersten but will admit I have not seen enough of him.

At 26 to get Markworth is robbery (I don't think he will be available), Todd Elton for mine at 26. My preference for the 2 picks are:

Pick 15 - Sam Docherty
Pick 26 - Todd Elton

I think there are plenty of good kids available between pick 15 - 26 so we should get 2 quality players here. Interesting for mine with what road we take with pick 55, but not fussed if we get the first 2 picks right.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: gerkin greg on November 22, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Sorry Gerks, thought it was a nervous tick.

Apology accepted. However, I reported your post to teach you a lesson. It really is for your own good.

Because my opinion differs to you, it's shocking? I've told you why I don't rate McKenzie.

Usually I let you have your say but not this time. You've told me nothing but LIES!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Danog on November 22, 2011, 05:11:19 PM
I honestly can't see Docherty being available at our pick. Unless Adams, Docherty, Sumner, are available, Kersten by the length of the Flemington straight for me. I wouldn't be disappointed with Kavanagh or Ellis either at 15.

At 26, Ellis, Markworth, Murdoch or Williams.

If we land that exacta we've already had a fine off-season.
Adams / Docherty / Sumner would be fantastic at pick 15 and I would be extremely pleased with any of the 3. My opinion differs to you on Kersten / McKenzie though, I don't rate Kersten but will admit I have not seen enough of him.

At 26 to get Markworth is robbery (I don't think he will be available), Todd Elton for mine at 26. My preference for the 2 picks are:

Pick 15 - Sam Docherty
Pick 26 - Todd Elton

I think there are plenty of good kids available between pick 15 - 26 so we should get 2 quality players here. Interesting for mine with what road we take with pick 55, but not fussed if we get the first 2 picks right.
I think Elton will be gone at 25.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: The Cotch on November 22, 2011, 05:12:25 PM
Also gerks, you say Kersten is an 'in-betweener'.

What would you call Fevola, Jack Darling? Same height.

What did you call Jack Riewoldt when he was first drafted?

So much is made about a few 3cm's.

Kersten is a footballer, give me that every day of the week.

By the way, this discussion is all academic, I'm still trying to figure out how Kersten will last to 15.

For what it's worth, I doubt Docherty, will be available at our pick. If he is, agree, we should draft him. If not, and assuming Sumner, Adams and co are also taken before us, well then we should draft on best available, and I have no doubt we will do that. The difference between taking an Ellis at 15, or taking someone similar at 26 is not much. The midfielders in this draft are all pretty similar from 15 to 40 unless there's a slider.

If we have Kersten at 15, we clearly have the 2nd best key forward in the draft staring us in the face. Let me tell you a little bit about Shane after having watched him quite a bit for the last two years.

First of all, he's the best mark in the draft, period. Even better than Patton. He reads the game so well. Already remind you of anyone? He tested top 10 in the clean hands test at the Comine, confirming his ability below his knee for a big guy. He suffered an elbow injury this season, so he missed the National Champs and a lot of the Colts season.

He came back and kicked 18 goals in the last 3 home and away matches. He then kicked 5 in the Grand Final and this is all coming from a very low fitness base. As an under age player in last years National Champs, he also kicked 15 goals. He just missed out being selected to GWS as a 17 year old.

So Kersten has a reason why he didn't test well at the Combine for endurance, he was injured all season.

Yes I do rate Kersten, and if he's available at our pick, I hope we pick him.

People say, 'we don't need another key forward', yeah, I bet you're the first people to complain if god forbid anything ever happened to Jack and Ty that we have no depth.

I've also heard, 'by drafting Kersten, what does that say to Griffiths?'.

Nothing.

Hopefully Griff makes it. Then Ty can play in the ruck. Wow, depth, scary thing isn't it?

Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: gerkin greg on November 22, 2011, 05:49:23 PM
Kiss me you fool  :-*
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: one-eyed on November 22, 2011, 06:38:12 PM
Whoever it is we draft, Jack Riewoldt will nickname him "crumpet" lol


Jack Riewoldt on twitter:

"Just took our camp shirts to be nicknamed, whoever our new recruit is, will be called crumpet! #kidwillbecalledcrumpet #whowillitbe #crumpet"
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: The Big Richo on November 22, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful,
a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily,
oh joyfully, oh playfully watching me.
But then they sent me away to teach me how to be sensible,
logical, oh responsible, practical.
And then they showed me a world where I could be so dependable,
oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Penelope on November 22, 2011, 07:31:13 PM
Just wondering TBR.

do faces come out of the rain?
does no one remember your name?
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: WA Tiger on November 22, 2011, 07:38:57 PM
What will be interesting is if we at all pick any of the mentioned players, how many people here tipped Conca last year?? We may have another smokey in line???

Who knows really.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 22, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
Also gerks, you say Kersten is an 'in-betweener'.

What would you call Fevola, Jack Darling? Same height.

What did you call Jack Riewoldt when he was first drafted?

So much is made about a few 3cm's.

Kersten is a footballer, give me that every day of the week.

By the way, this discussion is all academic, I'm still trying to figure out how Kersten will last to 15.

For what it's worth, I doubt Docherty, will be available at our pick. If he is, agree, we should draft him. If not, and assuming Sumner, Adams and co are also taken before us, well then we should draft on best available, and I have no doubt we will do that. The difference between taking an Ellis at 15, or taking someone similar at 26 is not much. The midfielders in this draft are all pretty similar from 15 to 40 unless there's a slider.

If we have Kersten at 15, we clearly have the 2nd best key forward in the draft staring us in the face. Let me tell you a little bit about Shane after having watched him quite a bit for the last two years.

First of all, he's the best mark in the draft, period. Even better than Patton. He reads the game so well. Already remind you of anyone? He tested top 10 in the clean hands test at the Comine, confirming his ability below his knee for a big guy. He suffered an elbow injury this season, so he missed the National Champs and a lot of the Colts season.

He came back and kicked 18 goals in the last 3 home and away matches. He then kicked 5 in the Grand Final and this is all coming from a very low fitness base. As an under age player in last years National Champs, he also kicked 15 goals. He just missed out being selected to GWS as a 17 year old.

So Kersten has a reason why he didn't test well at the Combine for endurance, he was injured all season.

Yes I do rate Kersten, and if he's available at our pick, I hope we pick him.

People say, 'we don't need another key forward', yeah, I bet you're the first people to complain if god forbid anything ever happened to Jack and Ty that we have no depth.

I've also heard, 'by drafting Kersten, what does that say to Griffiths?'.

Nothing.

Hopefully Griff makes it. Then Ty can play in the ruck. Wow, depth, scary thing isn't it?

You had me at 'in-betweener'  :cuddles
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on November 22, 2011, 08:28:17 PM
For me its a no to both Kersten and Kennedy.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Loui Tufga on November 22, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
For me its a no to both Kersten and Kennedy.

Have you ever said yes to anything........... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Coach on November 22, 2011, 11:35:41 PM
Sorry Gerks, thought it was a nervous tick.

Apology accepted. However, I reported your post to teach you a lesson. It really is for your own good.

Because my opinion differs to you, it's shocking? I've told you why I don't rate McKenzie.

Usually I let you have your say but not this time. You've told me nothing but LIES!!!!!!!!!!!

Good lord, GIMMME IS BACK
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: tiga on November 23, 2011, 08:45:21 AM
For me its a no to both Kersten and Kennedy.

Have you ever said yes to anything........... ;D ;D

Dont worry TFT, Flags just has a damnation fixation.  ;D
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on November 23, 2011, 09:01:10 AM
For me its a no to both Kersten and Kennedy.

Have you ever said yes to anything........... ;D ;D

Dont worry TFT, Flags just has a damnation fixation.  ;D

As a Richmond supporter its easier to bag everything and then wait for the result, this philosophy has been a massive winner over 3 decades now. Its time you boys cottoned on  ;D
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Penelope on November 23, 2011, 09:19:24 AM
those days are behind us ramps.

need to find a new strategy mate.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: The Big Richo on November 26, 2011, 01:39:17 PM
Surely we will take Brandon Ellis.
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on November 26, 2011, 01:46:46 PM
Surely we will take Brandon Ellis.
Your joking .... the calls of DUD and DELIST will be flying thick and fast  ;D
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Loui Tufga on November 26, 2011, 02:06:31 PM
Ellis :lol why would we recruit another midget, when will th club learn midgets have no place in the modern game ;D
Title: Re: Logically, who do you think we will end up picking at pick 15?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 26, 2011, 09:24:33 PM
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