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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 07, 2016, 12:59:01 AM
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Rance back from suspension. Maybe Cotch and/or Grimes.
Fire away ...
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out
Brandon Ellis
Shaun Grigg
Troy Chaplin
Bachar Houli
Steven Morris
Shaun Hampson
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out
Brandon Ellis
Shaun Grigg
Troy Chaplin
Bachar Houli
Steven Morris
Shaun Hampson
Why would Hampson be dropped, he competes and gives our mids first use......
These posts are just more of the same week after week
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Brandon Ellis
Shaun Grigg
Troy Chaplin
Bachar Houli
Steven Morris
Shaun Hampson
Why would Hampson be dropped, he competes and gives our mids first use......
These posts are just more of the same week after week
Do we need a reason other than we can't win with him in the side
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Hampson gave us first use of ball
Some posters on here should start watching the game
Rance in
Batchelor out
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In Rance out Chaplin
In Grimes out batch/houli
In Cotch out ellis
Wont happen people but if you want to make.a statement has to happen.
I would even consider dropping for a young player. Doesnt need to be only three changes. But unfortunately hardwick is in ultimate survival mode.
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Hampson gave us first use of ball
Some posters on here should start watching the game
Rance in
Batchelor out
Giving our mids the first use invite ball is the minimum a ruckman should be doing, his work beyond that is absolutely hopeless!
Compare his stats for the season to other stuffen and it's laughable!
Hampson is averaging 7 disposals, 2 marks and 28 hit outs a game, the likes of Gawn, Natanui and Goldstien are all averaging Double those stats including hot outs!!
Hampson is stuffed, our entire ruck stocks are stuffed but it's nearly with thinking about just using Vickery and Griffiths in the ruck because at least they can move around the ground!
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At the moment I think Hampson is better than maric. Very hard to say.
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Brandon Ellis
Shaun Grigg
Troy Chaplin
Bachar Houli
Steven Morris
Shaun Hampson
Agree on all except hampson. As dissapointing as it is to say.
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Lets continue to wallow in mediocrity
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At the moment I think Hampson is better than maric. Very hard to say.
Correct
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Brandon Ellis
Shaun Grigg
Troy Chaplin
Bachar Houli
Steven Morris
Shaun Hampson
ppl that want Morris out are trolling. thought he played well last night....
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Another 30 years of this crap coming up
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Hampson gave us first use of ball
Some posters on here should start watching the game
Rance in
Batchelor out
Giving our mids the first use invite ball is the minimum a ruckman should be doing, his work beyond that is absolutely hopeless!
Compare his stats for the season to other stuffen and it's laughable!
Hampson is averaging 7 disposals, 2 marks and 28 hit outs a game, the likes of Gawn, Natanui and Goldstien are all averaging Double those stats including hot outs!!
Hampson is stuffed, our entire ruck stocks are stuffed but it's nearly with thinking about just using Vickery and Griffiths in the ruck because at least they can move around the ground!
I can't stand the spud but on one leg he is fitter than both those two lazy pricks put together.
The problem spud has is he finds it difficult to execute the basic skills that are required for this game and he isn't AFL standard.
Our fitness staff are way off having Sideshow Bob and the GirlGriff running around in the ruck even for half the game.
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Brandon Ellis
Shaun Grigg
Troy Chaplin
Bachar Houli
Steven Morris
Shaun Hampson
ppl that want Morris out are trolling. thought he played well last night....
I can assure you I'm not trolling!
If your calling 10 possessions, 5 changers and 3 goals kicked against him a good game God help us all.
He is up there with some of the dumbest footballers ever to play.
But I suppose he is a good bloke and on that he'll keep his place in the side again ::)
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This will not be popular however, Morris was very good last night watching the game live. Gave everything and did some nice things. His courage to leave his man to defend and assist/cover is quality :clapping
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This will not be popular however, Morris was very good last night watching the game live. Gave everything and did some nice things. His courage to leave his man to defend and assist/cover is quality :clapping
Totally agree
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This will not be popular however, Morris was very good last night watching the game live. Gave everything and did some nice things. His courage to leave his man to defend and assist/cover is quality :clapping
Watch closely and tell me how many goals were kicked by his man after he left him to hit the contest creating the loose ball out the back!
It happened three times in the first half.
If he's going to leave his man to hit the contest he has to kill the contest and though it might look great that he's getting involved it's just not smart football!
I'd accept it if he was marking the ball or pinching it 15 meters away from the contest but 90% of the time it ends up with him found to ground and the ball going straight out the back to a loose player.
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This will not be popular however, Morris was very good last night watching the game live. Gave everything and did some nice things. His courage to leave his man to defend and assist/cover is quality :clapping
Totally agree
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Morris is the least of our problems
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On the contrary - the continued faith in washed-up hacks like Morris who are clearly no longer up to AFL standard, if indeed they ever where, is actually one of our biggest problems.
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We have great problems when our least talented players are the ones that try the hardest and never hesitate to put their bodies on the line.... :whistle
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....and give up 4 goals in the process - Hawthorn's small fowards kicking 13 between them.....as we head into next year with a bunch of kids having 10 - 30 less senior games experience in them than not only they should have but we'll need them to have...
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This will not be popular however, Morris was very good last night watching the game live. Gave everything and did some nice things. His courage to leave his man to defend and assist/cover is quality :clapping
Totally agree
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Morris is the least of our problems
Morris is more Of an asset to the list than rance or jack? Let's not lose our heads now
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just dont move him to half back........ :whistle
How I'd like our team to be set up (based on the players named on the weekend)
B: Chaplin,
HB:
C: McIntosh, Grigg, Menadue,
HF: Short, Martin, Rioli, Vlastuin
F: Riewoldt, Lloyd, Vickery, Houli
R: Griffiths, Edwards, Miles, Deledio, B. Ellis- must see this line up at all centre square bounces with Grigg
IC: C. Ellis, Hampson, Castagna,
Dropped - we might as well go in 2 players down: Morris and Batch
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....and give up 4 goals in the process - Hawthorn's small fowards kicking 13 between them.....as we head into next year with a bunch of kids having 10 - 30 less senior games experience in them than not only they should have but we'll need them to have...
There is no accountability in our defense at the minute. You never really know who is playing in who. It did look like George was on Breust in the last quarter when he kicked those 3 late goals. George will have to be better than that if he wants a career in the AFL.
I recon if you give a backman a job for the day, they can set themselves and you can actually see how they went at the end of the game. I think Dimma is doing this on purpose so no one person can be accountable for an opposition player. Houli would have been shown up a lot more if we were more transparent.
And I thought Morris went ok last night too. I'd prefer to see the back of Houli, BEllis, Chaplin and Grigg before Morris.
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Soft is worse than talentless by a long way....
Unfortunately neither will win us a flag.
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INS: Rance, Grimes, Cotchin (if fit)
OUTS: B Ellis, Chaplin, Vickery
Would drop a few more,
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agree willyp, but we all know hell will freeze over first before dimmer drops those 3 - let alone simultaneously
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If Reece Conca plays VFL next week does Short return to the Rookie list?
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Must drop B Ellis, B Houli, T Chaplin
In the 3 mentioned prior
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If Reece Conca plays VFL next week does Short return to the Rookie list?
Yes but can promote a rookie again after round 11.
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Menadue might need a rest,
I hate to say it but I thought Morris played his best game for at least a couple of years
I also hate to say Hanson is now doing the 1%ers now, as well as being competive as a ruckman , by far our best option
Batch was too slow when Gunstan was on the lead and too small one on one , he will get a spell in the twos
B Ellis needs make quicker decisions unders pressure, gets scared , and coughs it often too often, he is making an effort
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The fact that that is being considered by some as a good game from Morris, let alone his best for a couple years should really tell you all you need to know about him.
Hamspud still contributes far more to the opposition's cause during the course of a match than he does ours.
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If Reece Conca plays VFL next week does Short return to the Rookie list?
Does it have to be the player promoted for him? Not that I'm advocating it but could you demote George instead?
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Soft is worse than talentless by a long way....
Unfortunately neither will win us a flag.
Yep
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If Reece Conca plays VFL next week does Short return to the Rookie list?
Looking forward to see The Hackson special selection back
Will make things a whole lot better
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If Reece Conca plays VFL next week does Short return to the Rookie list?
Looking forward to see The Hackson special selection back
Will make things a whole lot better
I look forward to his kicks out on the full under absolutely no pressure.
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I don't know of any changes but I'm angry.
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agree willyp, but we all know hell will freeze over first before dimmer drops those 3 - let alone simultaneously
Agree. Hardwick in survival mode. Nothing will change until Hardwick is removed.
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I don't know of any changes but I'm angry.
You've come to the right place, anger is the only thing accepted
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just dont move him to half back........ :whistle
How I'd like our team to be set up (based on the players named on the weekend)
B: Chaplin,
HB:
C: McIntosh, Grigg, Menadue,
HF: Short, Martin, Rioli, Vlastuin
F: Riewoldt, Lloyd, Vickery, Houli
R: Griffiths, Edwards, Miles, Deledio, B. Ellis- must see this line up at all centre square bounces with Grigg
IC: C. Ellis, Hampson, Castagna,
Dropped - we might as well go in 2 players down: Morris and Batch
:clapping
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Trent Cotchin hopes to play for Richmond against Sydney
Daniel Cherny
The Age
May 9, 2016
Richmond captain Trent Cotchin is hopeful of returning for Saturday night's MCG clash with Sydney, but says his availability for the match will be guided by a meeting on Monday.
Cotchin missed the Tigers' loss to Hawthorn on Friday night after breaking his cheekbone in the round six loss to Port Adelaide.
The gun midfielder should be assessed early in the week, but when asked on Sunday whether he would play against the Swans, Cotchin said "I'd like to think yes, but it will be in the surgeon’s hands. I will meet him (on Monday)".
Richmond should in any case regain key defender Alex Rance in time to face Coleman Medal leader Lance Franklin. Rance was suspended for the matches against Power and the Hawks.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trent-cotchin-hopes-to-play-for-richmond-against-sydney-20160508-gop62a.html
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I hope they don't play him if there is any risk
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Surgeon would normally say don't play but we don't know how stable the fracture is with the plate/s on.....
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Surgeon would normally say don't play but we don't know how stable the fracture is with the plate/s on.....
There is no plates
Operation was to pop out the fracture
Might not play this week , decision with the surgeon today 😉
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Surgeon would normally say don't play but we don't know how stable the fracture is with the plate/s on.....
There is no plates
Operation was to pop out the fracture
Might not play this week , decision with the surgeon today 😉
No Plates? That would be highly unusual for cheekbone fractures. Especially in athletes that want to get back on the field asap.
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Surgeon would normally say don't play but we don't know how stable the fracture is with the plate/s on.....
There is no plates
Operation was to pop out the fracture
Might not play this week , decision with the surgeon today 😉
No Plates? That would be highly unusual for cheekbone fractures. Especially in athletes that want to get back on the field asap.
It just sits there in it's dark damp lair making up lies
I wouldn't believe it
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:lol
Why did I just get a mental picture of that Clown from the book/movie IT
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Surgeon would normally say don't play but we don't know how stable the fracture is with the plate/s on.....
There is no plates
Operation was to pop out the fracture
Might not play this week , decision with the surgeon today 😉
No Plates? That would be highly unusual for cheekbone fractures. Especially in athletes that want to get back on the field asap.
Can tell you , no plates
They just popped it out
If he did have a plate , he would be certain to play this week
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Surgeon would normally say don't play but we don't know how stable the fracture is with the plate/s on.....
There is no plates
Operation was to pop out the fracture
Might not play this week , decision with the surgeon today 😉
No Plates? That would be highly unusual for cheekbone fractures. Especially in athletes that want to get back on the field asap.
It just sits there in it's dark damp lair making up lies
I wouldn't believe it
He didn't get a plate end of story
I suggest you get a life
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
Only one nutter around here
Reading your posts makes me think your at least at primary school
Now play time is over , back to class you go
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
Only one nutter around here
Reading your posts makes me think your at least at primary school
Now play time is over , back to class you go
Alright just there make things up and post them
You are contributing to humanity, well done
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I hope Cotch doesn't play.
Don't risk it, give it another week, keep Vlas in the guts, put in McBean (CHF/CHB/Ruck switch with Vickery and by CHB CHF switch they are to interchange throughout the game), Lennon (Fwd Pocket not back line)
Drop Morris and Batch. (Batch will be covered by the switch)
Drop anyone who cant kick a 35m spear pass
Play on at every opportunity, play man on man, use the middle corridor, prepare for front and square disposal at every drop.
Create a contest have 2 players crumbing at every contest opportunity one on each side, Create movement and passing opportunities, play like you mean it and have passion.
Have a players only team meeting during the week, work out a game plan amongst the players without Hardwick, ignore what Hardwick and runners say during the game, don't come off the ground if you are on a hot streak, if we win the toss kick with the wind.
If we are 50 points up with 1 minute to go play defensively.
If you are 2 goals up with 5 minutes to go attack attack attack.
I know this is way off what we do so maybe it is too radical an approach?
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Drop anyone who cant kick a 35m spear pass
Dimma will call off the game MOL. With only three players on the field it will be no contest! :lol
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Drop anyone who cant kick a 35m spear pass
YAB unfortunately its the :banghead truth!!
Dimma will call off the game MOL. With only three players on the field it will be no contest! :lol
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
Only one nutter around here
Reading your posts makes me think your at least at primary school
Now play time is over , back to class you go
Alright just there make things up and post them
You are contributing to humanity, well done
He actually got up in front of 100 supporters at the 3121 pre game function and said " I have not had a plate inserted "
Otherwise he would of played last Friday
It's a small break that didn't require a plate , they just popped out the fracture and realigned it
Now can you read what I just said ?
I
Or are you going to be a typical keyboard warrior and abuse me
Please yourself
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No reply "
Stalin " ?? :shh :shh
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
Only one nutter around here
Reading your posts makes me think your at least at primary school
Now play time is over , back to class you go
Alright just there make things up and post them
You are contributing to humanity, well done
He actually got up in front of 100 supporters at the 3121 pre game function and said " I have not had a plate inserted "
Otherwise he would of played last Friday
It's a small break that didn't require a plate , they just popped out the fracture and realigned it
Now can you read what I just said ?
I
Or are you going to be a typical keyboard warrior and abuse me
Please yourself
Jack is 100% correct here
Told IS pre ,atch function the same thing
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Have a players only team meeting during the week, work out a game plan amongst the players without Hardwick, ignore what Hardwick and runners say during the game, don't come off the ground if you are on a hot streak, if we win the toss kick with the wind.
Think that's practically what they already do, hence why the players have NFI
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Won't believe someone who attends pre match functions
Believes any article found in the obscurity of the internet and knows for a fact illuminati, giants, unicorns and aliens exist :lol
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The Barometer - Round 8
Herald-Sun
9 May 2016
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: On the block? How about everyone? The coaches are, the players are and the recruiters are. Damien Hardwick described a 46-point loss to Hawthorn — the Tigers’ sixth consecutive defeat — a step forward, which tells you everything. Jake Batchelor looked like he might add to the list of absentees when he left the ground with a knee injury, but was able to return soon after.
ON THE CUSP: Thankfully, there’s a returning cast on the horizon. Alex Rance is back from suspension, Dylan Grimes will be back from a hamstring injury and skipper Trent Cotchin told a pre-match function on Friday night he would play — a statement later validated by Hardwick. Will be intriguing to see whether Ivan Maric returns after being dropped for the Hawks, as was David Astbury. Both played in the club’s VFL loss to Port Melbourne, but neither set the world on fire.
SAM EDMUND’S FORECAST: There will be no Leicester miracle for Richmond. Now a miserable 1-6 and miles from where it expected to be, it comes up against a rampant Sydney at the MCG. The Tigers have won their last two against the Swans, but had also won three of the last four against Hawthorn and what did that count for? Tried to get away its stodgy ball movement ways against the Hawks and looked noticeably quicker with the ball. But that was offset by the fact they conceded 21 goals, nine in the last quarter and 12 of the last 15. It’s hard to be a glass half-full when your glass is empty.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/barometer-afl-injury-list-selection-analysis-ahead-of-round-8/news-story/c1e6ef0ec314df64be4911c2ebe76866
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Well after that I think that Sam Edmund either reads OER or posts here! ;D
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
Only one nutter around here
Reading your posts makes me think your at least at primary school
Now play time is over , back to class you go
Alright just there make things up and post them
You are contributing to humanity, well done
He actually got up in front of 100 supporters at the 3121 pre game function and said " I have not had a plate inserted "
Otherwise he would of played last Friday
It's a small break that didn't require a plate , they just popped out the fracture and realigned it
Now can you read what I just said ?
I
Or are you going to be a typical keyboard warrior and abuse me
Please yourself
Jack is 100% correct here
Told IS pre ,atch function the same thing
Cotch also said it on "Game Day" on Sunday morning. He said it was keyhole surgery and the hole was around the temple area.
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How many times did port us the bench vs Richmond on the first half. Ya nuffty
Only one nutter around here
Reading your posts makes me think your at least at primary school
Now play time is over , back to class you go
Alright just there make things up and post them
You are contributing to humanity, well done
He actually got up in front of 100 supporters at the 3121 pre game function and said " I have not had a plate inserted "
Otherwise he would of played last Friday
It's a small break that didn't require a plate , they just popped out the fracture and realigned it
Now can you read what I just said ?
I
Or are you going to be a typical keyboard warrior and abuse me
Please yourself
Jack is 100% correct here
Told IS pre ,atch function the same thing
Cotch also said it on "Game Day" on Sunday morning. He said it was keyhole surgery and the hole was around the temple area.
It would be unusual for him to play this week given that fractures take 6 weeks to heal and there is no plate to make sure the bone isn't dislodged again through a knock to the face.
I guess funnier things have happened…..
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Like playing with him with an injured leg
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In the mix: round seven
Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
10 May 2016[/i]
RICHMOND
The cavalry is arriving for Richmond, with All Australian defender Alex Rance returning from suspension and captain Trent Cotchin sure to be back from a fractured cheekbone.
Cotchin visited his surgeon on Monday but appears determined to return after missing one match and has declared himself fit.
Defender Dylan Grimes is also available after missing five matches with a hamstring injury. He has been training at a high intensity for two weeks and should play at some level this weekend.
The big question will be around ruckman Ivan Maric, who was dropped to the VFL in round seven and struggled around the ground. He hasn't demanded a recall.
Taylor Hunt (25 possessions) was among the Tigers' best in the VFL.
Defender David Astbury also battled away in the reserves for the first time this season and is available.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-10/in-the-mix-round-eight
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Hunt will come in for a kid. Vlastuin will be moved back to defence for Cotchin. :gotigers
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The cavalry is arriving for Richmond, with All Australian defender Alex Rance returning from suspension and captain Trent Cotchin sure to be back from a fractured cheekbone.
The cavalry is arriving :rollin
Still couldn't beat Collingwood or Melbourne.
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Key defender Alex Rance will return following his two-week suspension, with in-form Buddy Franklin awaiting.
“He’s been terrific ... we’re very fortunate we’ve got a very good player in Alex Rance coming back in to help us combat that,” Hardwick said.
Ruckman Ivan Maric will be given more time in the VFL while Kane Lambert is still at least another week away from returning.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/trent-cotchin-to-miss-second-week-with-richmond-not-willing-to-take-any-risks/news-story/11f6aab749dd2992aee51a5d49b47e62
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what happened to mcintosh??? long term injury list?
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Ankle injury at training today
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McIntosh placed on long-term injury list
richmondfc.com.au
May 12, 2016 4:43 PM
Richmond midfielder Kamdyn McIntosh has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list.
McIntosh suffered a syndesmosis sprain of his right ankle during a training session at the Club on Thursday morning.
The 22-year-old will wear a moon boot for the next three weeks and is expected to miss 8-to-10 rounds of the AFL season.
McIntosh’s move to the long-term injury list will allow elevated rookie, Jayden Short to remain on the Club’s senior list.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-12/mcintosh-placed-on-longterm-injury-list
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And some still dont believe the rebuild is on full mode
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Very quick to get him on the LTI.....
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On the bright side, should open up a spot for another kid...oh wait.....forgot Half-Step's still in charge.....so another chance for Taylor Hunt and another excuse to keep Vlastuin down back......
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Didn't Dan Richardson come out a couple of weeks ago and state that some of our recycled players were drafted for need at the time but we needed to replace them if we were to get to the next level?
So why are we still playing pretty much all of them?
Chaplin
Grigg
Houli
Morris
If Hunt comes in or none of these others are dropped soon, than we are a complete joke.
We as supporters can live through a bit of "heartburn" but not if we are still watching the same crap.
The club admits these types have taken us as far as they can, it's time to stop playing them.
Ins- Rance, Grimes, Astbury, Lennon, Butler, Townsend, Broad
Outs- Houli, Chaplin, Grigg, BEllis, McIntosh which is a big loss, Griffiths, Batchelor
Astbury to play on Tippit
Lennon to play forward the entire night
Butler to play alongside Rioli as our pressure small forwards
Townsend to play on Parker
Short, Morris and Castagna to be our small defenders on Mills, Heeney ans Papley.
We need to get quicker by hand and foot and those "outs" are all slow. The game has changed since last year but we are still playing the same slow moving, slow minded players.
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Don't know why people have got it in for Grigg
Been ok
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Geez almighty it is about time they brought Lennon back in
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Geez almighty it is about time they brought Lennon back in
Concussion twice in 3 weeks.......
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Don't know why people have got it in for Grigg
Been ok
Because he's the kind of player that won't help take us any further and we should be looking to be upgrading on sooner rather than later....
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Geez almighty it is about time they brought Lennon back in
Concussion twice in 3 weeks.......
wait? what? When did this happen? Why isn't he listed on the injury list on the AFL website then?
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Geez almighty it is about time they brought Lennon back in
Concussion twice in 3 weeks.......
wait? what? When did this happen? Why isn't he listed on the injury list on the AFL website then?
Mentioned in McRae's report….
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Don't know why people have got it in for Grigg
Been ok
Come on Jackstar!
He is as slow as poo and just runs around getting useless possessions like BEllis.
He is so "one paced" it's killing us especially with the new rules this year.
It time to replace him with someone that can offer "today's AFL footy" speed and pressure.
We need guys that can hurt opposition teams and unfortunately Grigg doesn't.
Do you also feel the same about Houli?
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I think Houli , Grigg and Ellis are extremely important B
I also think the game plan is terrible at the moment and all 3 suffer from this
We didn't have gripes 2-3 years ago when these 3 were playing good footy
Tell you something , if Grigg gets over 20 possessions in a game , we are very competive
Would play him and Ellis on wings and leave them there
Not tagging , not playing behind the ball
But use both of them as the release player on the overlap
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I think Houli , Grigg and Ellis are extremely important B
I also think the game plan is terrible at the moment and all 3 suffer from this
We didn't have gripes 2-3 years ago when these 3 were playing good footy
Tell you something , if Grigg gets over 20 possessions in a game , we are very competive
Would play him and Ellis on wings and leave them there
Not tagging , not playing behind the ball
But use both of them as the release player on the overlap
The thing is Jackstar its not 2-3 years ago and the game has gone past Grigg and Houli and BEllis was never any good. Even Dan Richarson said it without naming names and he is an idiot.
If you think those 3 are important than there isn't much point.
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If only we had Yarran for depth...but as i told you all it was a 12 week injury not a 6 week injury.
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I think Houli , Grigg and Ellis are extremely important
Sigh
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If only we had Yarran for depth...but as i told you all it was a 12 week injury not a 6 week injury.
You should be prime minister