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Title: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: one-eyed on June 04, 2011, 03:20:10 PM
We've had practically 18 months to see how Dimma has performed as coach.

So how have you rated his efforts this season and over his whole reign so far? .... What you've liked; any negatives; what you'd like to see improve in the second half of the season, etc...?
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Infamy on June 04, 2011, 07:38:12 PM
From where we started probably an 8.5, but I went for a 9 on the poll
Can't have expected him to to much more unless he was/is a demigod
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Danog on June 04, 2011, 07:43:02 PM
A few shocking decisions have him at an 8 for me.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Mr Magic on June 04, 2011, 09:16:36 PM
8. Very good.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: tiger101 on June 04, 2011, 09:34:30 PM
Couldn't of asked for any better from a first time senior coach at AFL level.
Main positive in my view is that his got a game style that seems to has brang the best out of alot of players that looked gone. E.G king nahas.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: The Big Richo on June 04, 2011, 09:42:29 PM
Needs to improve a lot on his current match day work if he is going to be a premiership coach.

Like his off field work plenty.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Infamy on June 04, 2011, 11:11:53 PM
Needs to improve a lot on his current match day work if he is going to be a premiership coach.
What, because he is not making short term changes to win matches rather than leaving players in their position to educate them for the future?
Yeah of course that means he makes terrible decisions
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 05, 2011, 07:58:29 AM
Needs to improve a lot on his current match day work if he is going to be a premiership coach.
What, because he is not making short term changes to win matches rather than leaving players in their position to educate them for the future?
Yeah of course that means he makes terrible decisions

That's the assumption at this stage but he hasn't yet proved he has the ability to change things that aren't going to plan during a game. It's not an issue for this year but there will come a time when it will cost us games we will expect and need to win in order to play finals.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Infamy on June 05, 2011, 09:32:52 AM
Needs to improve a lot on his current match day work if he is going to be a premiership coach.
What, because he is not making short term changes to win matches rather than leaving players in their position to educate them for the future?
Yeah of course that means he makes terrible decisions

That's the assumption at this stage but he hasn't yet proved he has the ability to change things that aren't going to plan during a game. It's not an issue for this year but there will come a time when it will cost us games we will expect and need to win in order to play finals.
I agree that he can be judged on this from say next year onwards (even though there will still be more development next year), I just think it's silly to mark him down this year on such things.
You could say that he's already managed to make some pretty decent match day changes this year to get us back into games we are getting smashed in early and in some case win those games.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 05, 2011, 09:46:05 AM
As a new, young coach Dimma will make the same sort of mistakes that a young, new team will make! They will learn together!
I like how he has built respect with the playing group without walking in and demanding it! Like his honest appraisals of the team!
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Smokey on June 05, 2011, 11:21:36 AM
I like everything he has brought to the job and think he is on track to be a topline coach.  Gave him a 7 so that I had room to move when he coaches us to a premiership!  ;D
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 05, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
I like everything he has brought to the job and think he is on track to be a topline coach.  Gave him a 7 so that I had room to move when he coaches us to a premiership!  ;D
exactly my thought smokey but I gave him 8 because I think the players want to play for him and the jumper.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: FNM on June 05, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
No complaints from me :-)

9
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: mat073 on June 05, 2011, 12:39:01 PM
As a new, young coach Dimma will make the same sort of mistakes that a young, new team will make! They will learn together!
I like how he has built respect with the playing group without walking in and demanding it! Like his honest appraisals of the team!


Good summary GR12....Dimmas not perfect but he has been a perfect fit for the club.

Still has around 20 games of "Honeymoon" left before the media and ferals start to apply the "blow torch".
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: The Big Richo on June 05, 2011, 12:49:04 PM
Needs to improve a lot on his current match day work if he is going to be a premiership coach.
What, because he is not making short term changes to win matches rather than leaving players in their position to educate them for the future?
Yeah of course that means he makes terrible decisions

I don't have a problem with 'educational' match ups like Conca on Milne, but I do think that Hardwick is often out coached.

That is something you would expect from a young coach, hence my comment that he will need to improve, much like his players will, in order to be a premiership coach.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Muscles on June 05, 2011, 01:25:25 PM
I'm not sure that Dimma calls the match day moves from the boundary line. It'd be interesting to know who is the primary voice in the coaches box.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Ox on June 05, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
I'm not sure that Dimma calls the match day moves from the boundary line. It'd be interesting to know who is the primary voice in the coaches box.
:thumbsup
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Ox on June 05, 2011, 01:54:04 PM
Hasn't even begun imo.

We're still a bottom 8 team but with some stars.

What can he and the coaching panel achieve ? Time will tell.

Has he made any outstanding tactical moves in the heat of battle ?
Only on this can we judge his true ability.

i know he's made some woeful decisions....

I'm still out.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 05, 2011, 02:29:09 PM
What do the Jade Rawlings supporters think? D Anyone ready to say sorry for there Role in plotting to pressure the club to install Rawlings as coach via a shambolic PR campaign on the forums?  :lol
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 05, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
What do the Jade Rawlings supporters think? D Anyone ready to say sorry for there Role in plotting to pressure the club to install Rawlings as coach via a shambolic PR campaign on the forums?  :lol
:lol  :rollin  :rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :jump

yes good judges they are.  :thatsgold
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 05, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Rather than worry about where would have been with Rawlings, Scott, Buckley, Campbell, Sheedy or whoever I think Dimma has done really well and has overhauled the list and got them playing a good style of footy through the corridor with more emphasis on tackling shepherding and other one percenters. I think his efforts are worth an 8.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 05, 2011, 03:12:59 PM
I give Hardwick a 7 and Rawlings 0  ;D
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 05, 2011, 04:02:41 PM
What do the Jade Rawlings supporters think? D Anyone ready to say sorry for there Role in plotting to pressure the club to install Rawlings as coach via a shambolic PR campaign on the forums?  :lol
:lol  :rollin  :rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :jump

yes good judges they are.  :thatsgold



your the one that loved Rawlings.


Edited quote.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: tony_montana on June 05, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
Hasn't even begun imo.

We're still a bottom 8 team but with some stars.

What can he and the coaching panel achieve ? Time will tell.

Has he made any outstanding tactical moves in the heat of battle ?
Only on this can we judge his true ability.

i know he's made some woeful decisions....

I'm still out.

I agree brackets, He's done the easy part with overhauling a dud list and replacing them with kids, the real job is only just beginning.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Rodgerramjet on June 05, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
Gave him a 9, would have been 10 other than the loss to Port.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: one-eyed on June 05, 2011, 04:49:04 PM
Snip!

Stick to the topic ppl without the baiting and sniping!
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: the claw on June 05, 2011, 05:56:33 PM
for me its not about game day atm. so as a game day coach its way too early to say.

what have wedone under him.
hmm since hes been there we have put money into recruiting and development  is this hardwick or is it the club.

under both wallace and frawley there were many supporters who screamed for a long time about an awful lot of what hardwick has done.
cleaning out the duds which has only partly been done.  Insisting we only take kids who have good skills. Building size and structure and actually embracing and sticking to a full on youth policy, these things and more were so obvious there were heaps of us saying so.

I supppose to summarise what  im saying he has done the obvious, and credit to him we have had so many over the yrs totally ignore the obvious.
To me the real test for Hardwick is if he can see these things thru to their logical conclusions and not get caught up the inevitable hype and only do half a job. So far hes done the easy obvious bit, now he has to see thru what he started.

As far as actually building a team and god forbid depth that will be capable of taking us to top 4 and a consistent tilt at a gf then we are in for another 2 or 3 tough yrs, and he and those in charge had damn well better grit their teeth and see it thru no short cuts.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 05, 2011, 06:11:05 PM
for me its not about game day atm. so as a game day coach its way too early to say.

what have wedone under him.
hmm since hes been there we have put money into recruiting and development  is this hardwick or is it the club.

under both wallace and frawley there were many supporters who screamed for a long time about an awful lot of what hardwick has done.
cleaning out the duds which has only partly been done.  Insisting we only take kids who have good skills. Building size and structure and actually embracing and sticking to a full on youth policy, these things and more were so obvious there were heaps of us saying so.

I supppose to summarise what  im saying he has done the obvious, and credit to him we have had so many over the yrs totally ignore the obvious.
To me the real test for Hardwick is if he can see these things thru to their logical conclusions and not get caught up the inevitable hype and only do half a job. So far hes done the easy obvious bit, now he has to see thru what he started.

As far as actually building a team and god forbid depth that will be capable of taking us to top 4 and a consistent tilt at a gf then we are in for another 2 or 3 tough yrs, and he and those in charge had damn well better grit their teeth and see it thru no short cuts.
so what score you give the coach then? 
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: the claw on June 05, 2011, 06:26:40 PM
Too early to give him any sort of rating. we will only know if hes done well or failed in two or three yrs time.i will reserve my judgment until then all i will say is in the main he seems to be heading in the right direction.
and i say this even if we finish bottom 4 this yr and believe it or not i think that likely.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Mr Magic on June 05, 2011, 09:09:17 PM
Too early to give him any sort of rating.

I think you can only rate him on whether you are happy on what he has achieved so far, not what might be.
Personally I have been very impressed to date and wouldn't have done much differently if I imagined myself ever in that position.
Yes he may fail but right now I think he's doing near as good a job as I could have hoped with the crap he was handed by Teflon Terry.
Good to see you're pretty pleased in the main. Me too.
Title: Re: How have you rated Hardwick's efforts so far as coach?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 05, 2011, 10:39:05 PM
We all know he has a long way to go but if anything for the most part most feel positive with what he has done as opposed to to past coaches where the jury was out for most of their tenures.