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Title: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 23, 2014, 01:07:54 AM
A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda
Herald-Sun
March 23, 2014


A TASMANIAN team in the AFL is back on the agenda.

While still shrouded in secrecy, it is understood the matter has been discussed at the highest levels of the AFL and AFL Tasmania, with a report being prepared to look at the social and economic impact on the state.

The failure of past bids, stretching back to the early 1990s, has been blamed on the state’s “North-South divide’’.

And despite public perceptions, outgoing AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou is understood to favour the team, as long as it is a team for all Tasmanians.

To date, state partnerships with Hawthorn and North Melbourne have been a commercial success and provided some comfort to a footy-starved public.

But some argue the two-team strategy has created further animosity between the regions.

It is not clear whether the AFL would consider pursuing a full relocation of an existing club.

The Hawthorn partnership has obviously proved fruitful, pumping tens of millions of dollars into the Launceston economy, but the Hawks are unlikely to make a full-time commitment to Tassie, given their strong Victorian support and healthy bottom line.

The state’s best hope of getting a deal done now appears to rest with the AFL Commission and whoever replaces Demetriou as CEO.

Gillon McLachlan is clear frontrunner and has been heavily involved in the Tasmanian discussions.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/a-tasmanian-team-is-back-on-the-afl-agenda/story-fnelctok-1226862117538
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on March 23, 2014, 02:19:10 AM
Awesome, another few years of compromised drafts to look forward to.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 23, 2014, 02:24:01 AM
Surely they learnt their lesson from the last 2 teams. You could send a bunch of recycled hacks down there and Tassie fans would turn up.  :shh

Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 23, 2014, 02:42:56 AM
Apart from the ready made fanbase, Tasmania should also have enough homegrown talent to not require the ridiculous level of concessions sides from the Rugby states are afforded. Also doubt the clubs would sign off on such foolishness again - besides a Tasmanian team's not going to boost the value of the broadcast rights that much, so the dollar signs in their eyes won't be so big as to obscure everything, like they did last time.

New team should play on the Queenstown Oval gravel pit. Not only will this get around the so-called North-South divide but will virtually guarantee the ground quickly becoming a graveyard for visiting sides.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Coach on March 23, 2014, 08:19:49 PM
Ready made fan base? Won't require concessions like the others?

What
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 23, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
Won't happen not enough dollars

Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 23, 2014, 09:41:36 PM
Ready made fan base? Won't require concessions like the others?

What
People like footy there.  :shh People in Western Sydney and GC couldn't give 2 poos.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Coach on March 23, 2014, 09:47:42 PM
I know people like football in Tasmania, I have lived there. That means the people there are already supporting/have memberships at other AFL clubs.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on March 23, 2014, 10:20:05 PM
yeah, good point. some would jump ship. but not all
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 24, 2014, 02:47:20 AM
I know people like football in Tasmania, I have lived there. That means the people there are already supporting/have memberships at other AFL clubs.
:shh don't tell the AFL. I want to have a pick before 40 in the 2030 draft.   ;D
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 24, 2014, 04:14:44 AM
I know people like football in Tasmania, I have lived there. That means the people there are already supporting/have memberships at other AFL clubs.

Many people in Perth & Adelaide had VFL teams they supported too. VFL was the premier comp. with the best players and had nationwide coverage.

People will get behind a Tasmanian club, some will support two clubs, many will go to games because they want to see football played at the highest level by the best players, others will go when their current AFL team is visiting. Kids & future generations will grow up supporting the local side.

Stands to reason that Tasmania already being an Football state will only make things a lot easier.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on March 24, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
population numbers helped big time for perth and adelaide, as well as a feral patriotism (hate of anything east of them).

tassie has a total population of not much over 50k, while perth and adelaide have well over a million, each, without taking into account those living outside the cities.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 24, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
tassie has a total population of not much over 50k, while perth and adelaide have well over a million, each, without taking into account those living outside the cities.

Hope that was a typo al and you mean "not much over 500k"  ;D
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on March 24, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
 ;D
def typo
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 24, 2014, 03:08:30 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

 :cheers

 :eyebrow
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 24, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
Crowds & membership are not the issues holding back a Tasmanian team....it's how much value they'll add to broadcasting rights...

For a start, they'll have bigger regular crowds and more members then GWS ever will and won't be the money pit GWS is and always will be.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 24, 2014, 05:21:00 PM
Where are they going to play? York or Bellerive?
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on March 24, 2014, 06:28:36 PM
Angus Graham Stadium, King Island.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: gerkin greg on March 25, 2014, 10:36:01 AM
The Tassie Grahams has a nice ring to it
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigs2011 on March 25, 2014, 03:02:42 PM
I like this. Would give Coach an "out" of this club if we fail to beat Carlton in the next 15 years.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Damo on March 28, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
If Tassie wanted an AFL team, all they had to do was get an A-League franchise.

Vlad would have got them a team instantly if this occurred.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tdy on March 29, 2014, 10:23:40 PM
;D
def typo
Did you count both heads?
Title: One team in Tasmania the best fit: AFL (The Mercury/ afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 15, 2014, 09:51:24 PM
One team in Tasmania the best fit: AFL
Nick Bowen 
afl.com.au
April 15, 2014 7:07 PM


THE AFL's preferred football model in Tasmania would involve one team playing in both Launceston and Hobart, League deputy chief executive Gillon McLachlan says.
 
For the past three years, the AFL has been represented in Tasmania by Hawthorn and North Melbourne.
 
The Hawks have played 'home' games at Launceston's Aurora Stadium since 2001 and remain contracted to play four games a year there until the end of 2016.
 
North is in the final season of a three-year deal to play two games a season at Hobart's Blundstone Arena, but Roos chief executive Carl Dilena told AFL.com.au last week the Roos expected to start talks on extending their stay in Hobart within the next two months.
 
McLachlan was in Tasmania on Tuesday as the AFL officially took over the management of the state's governing football body, AFL Tasmania, and outlined his vision for the Apple Isle to the local media.
 
"We have an ideal model which is a single team representing Tasmania. Who that is and what format that takes is a complex question," McLachlan told The Mercury.
 
"Everyone understands (the Hawks) have another two years on their contract to run and I feel very confident North Melbourne will renew their arrangement for at least another couple of years in Hobart and the appropriate time to review that will be post-2016.
 
"I would love to see more content down here.
 
"The success of the North Melbourne footy club over the past couple of years has shown the appetite in the south. It has been well entrenched in the north and I think we are working constructively with all parties to increase the level of content at a minimum."

Dilena has consistently said North is interested in increasing its commitment at Blundstone Arena to three games a season from 2015.
 
In response to McLachlan's comments on Tuesday night, the North CEO told NMFC.com.au three games a season was the maximum commitment the club was considering in Hobart.
 
"It's been an honour playing two games in Hobart for the past two years and we look forward to returning later this season to face St Kilda and Adelaide," Dilena said.
 
"We have been open about our discussions with the AFL and key stakeholders in Hobart about increasing our commitment from two games to three.
 
"We are not considering anything beyond a potential three-game model and with the current stadium deal at Etihad, we are only in a position to go from two games to three in 2015 and beyond."
 
McLachlan said he was yet to speak to Hawthorn, North or the Tasmanian Government about the future of AFL football in Tasmania beyond the end of the Hawks' contract in 2016.
 
Dilena has consistently said North is interested in increasing its commitment at Blundstone Arena to three games a season from 2015.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-15/afl-backs-one-team-in-tas
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 16, 2014, 06:25:52 AM
Tassie Kangaroos from 2017.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: TigerMonk on April 20, 2014, 03:10:53 PM
Won't happen, They don't have enough backers to float a club in this multi million doallar buisness.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: the claw on April 22, 2014, 08:31:26 PM
Surely they learnt their lesson from the last 2 teams. You could send a bunch of recycled hacks down there and Tassie fans would turn up.  :shh
reckon you have it wrong  2011.  tasmanians are just as parochial about their afl teams as victorians are. very few would jump ship. in many ways tassie is just another 10 suburbs of melbourne.
i think this more than anything else is whats not understood by mainlanders.
Title: Re: A Tasmanian team is back on the AFL agenda (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigs2011 on April 23, 2014, 12:31:26 AM
Surely they learnt their lesson from the last 2 teams. You could send a bunch of recycled hacks down there and Tassie fans would turn up.  :shh
reckon you have it wrong  2011.  tasmanians are just as parochial about their afl teams as victorians are. very few would jump ship. in many ways tassie is just another 10 suburbs of melbourne.
i think this more than anything else is whats not understood by mainlanders.
You're probably right there. I'd imagine that's the reason they don't have a team anyway. People already follow the AFL. But I still think they'd turn up to watch a game of AFL each week down there if they had their own team regardless of whether they actually "barrack" for them. Bums on seats = money for the club.