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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: gerkin greg on July 09, 2012, 12:11:08 PM
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Just looking at the ladder and it is clear we have not improved one bit in 30 years
1. SYD - beat up the league leaders all day but only won by 29pts :banghead
2. WC - lost an arm wrestle by 10pts :banghead
3. ADL - lost by 19pts away after beating up on them early :banghead
4. COL - lost by 21pts after our comeback fell short :banghead
5. HAW - played terribly in the wet, only won by 62pts :banghead
6. ESS - lost by 19pts after our comeback fell short :banghead
7. GEE - lost an arm wrestle away by 10pts :banghead
8. STK - widely labelled game of the season yet we only won by 8pts despite having lost 13 straight to them :banghead
Only won 3 games against the top 8 (below half = poor FACT), and if you combine the scores you will see that whilst we come out in front by a handsome +20pts, it really is not good enough for a young side, and a disappointing read to say the least, full of excuses and 30 years of mediocrity.
And whilst we may be ahead of sides like Norf on the ladder by virtue of an easier draw and some sort of optical illusion, it is clear that they are doing something that we aren't, i havent seen them flogged by a ton or throw away winning margins yet this season and I've seen at least one Norf game back in 1999.
Same goes with Melbourne, just wait until some other time in the future when we lose to them and i'm proved right.
FFS we are going backwards at a rate of knots, take the rose coloured glasses off you cross dressing morons :banghead
thanks,
gg
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Mr Gerkin
You forgot the Carlton game; was within a kick and half with 16 minutes to go....
Yep going backwards I reckon you're right ;D :)
Thanks
WP
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Yer that may be so but 8 posts is more than enough man. You of all people should know better. :whistle
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Mr Gerkin
You forgot the Carlton game; was within a kick and half with 16 minutes to go....
Yep going backwards I reckon you're right ;D :)
Thanks
WP
He only used good teams in his example. Carlton weren't forgotten. :lol
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Mr Gerkin
You forgot the Carlton game; was within a kick and half with 16 minutes to go....
Yep going backwards I reckon you're right ;D :)
Thanks
WP
He only used good teams in his example. Carlton weren't forgotten. :lol
Correct
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Mr Gerkin
You forgot the Carlton game; was within a kick and half with 16 minutes to go....
Yep going backwards I reckon you're right ;D :)
Thanks
WP
He only used good teams in his example. Carlton weren't forgotten. :lol
Correct
Forgive me
I am drugged up & not thinking straight :cheers
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you are forgiven WP, though you wont see me use that as an excuse
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:banghead not to mention all the glass half fulls :banghead
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Just looking at the ladder and it is clear we have not improved one bit in 30 years
1. SYD - beat up the league leaders all day but only won by 29pts :banghead
2. WC - lost an arm wrestle by 10pts :banghead
3. ADL - lost by 19pts away after beating up on them early :banghead
4. COL - lost by 21pts after our comeback fell short :banghead
5. HAW - played terribly in the wet, only won by 62pts :banghead
6. ESS - lost by 19pts after our comeback fell short :banghead
7. GEE - lost an arm wrestle away by 10pts :banghead
8. STK - widely labelled game of the season yet we only won by 8pts despite having lost 13 straight to them :banghead
Only won 3 games against the top 8 (below half = poor FACT), and if you combine the scores you will see that whilst we come out in front by a handsome +20pts, it really is not good enough for a young side, and a disappointing read to say the least, full of excuses and 30 years of mediocrity.
And whilst we may be ahead of sides like Norf on the ladder by virtue of an easier draw and some sort of optical illusion, it is clear that they are doing something that we aren't, i havent seen them flogged by a ton or throw away winning margins yet this season and I've seen at least one Norf game back in 1999.
Same goes with Melbourne, just wait until some other time in the future when we lose to them and i'm proved right.
FFS we are going backwards at a rate of knots, take the rose coloured glasses off you cross dressing morons :banghead
thanks,
gg
Agree with everything - we're just going backwards.
We only beat the Premiers on their home turf in the NAB Cup by 59 points. Is it too much to ask for a piddly extra point to make it a 10-goal win? No, only 59 points :banghead
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Expectations rise quickly at Tigerland. Only wooden spoons and flags are acceptable. There are no shades of grey.
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Just looking at the ladder and it is clear we have not improved one bit in 30 years
Only won 3 games against the top 8 (below half = poor FACT), and if you combine the scores you will see that whilst we come out in front by a handsome +20pts, it really is not good enough for a young side, and a disappointing read to say the least, full of excuses and 30 years of mediocrity.
And whilst we may be ahead of sides like Norf on the ladder by virtue of an easier draw and some sort of optical illusion, it is clear that they are doing something that we aren't, i havent seen them flogged by a ton or throw away winning margins yet this season and I've seen at least one Norf game back in 1999.
thanks,
gg
hmm north have beaten just 3 top 8 sides like us. geel, ad, stkilda. they copped a 115 point hiding just 5 weeks ago. and to top it off gave up a whopping 35 point lead late in the 2nd quarter just this week.
not sure if north was a good example to use.
just had another read not sure if one is not being just a tad sarcastic in his appraisal.
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Expectations rise quickly at Tigerland. Only wooden spoons and flags are acceptable. There are no shades of grey.
lol damn right wooden spoon to premiership in 3 yrs is just too long.
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hmm north have beaten just 3 top 8 sides like us. geel, ad, stkilda. they copped a 115 point hiding just 5 weeks ago. and to top it off gave up a whopping 35 point lead late in the 2nd quarter just this week.
not sure if north was a good example to use.
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cmon claw yr better than that mate lol
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
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JT Tigers has nominated this as post of the month
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Rubbish thread
Let's talk when we make finals
Until then talk, stats and comparisons are cheap
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stop talking daniel we haven't made finals yet
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Poor form Daniel. You are better than that
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no changes this years bar Morris and Ivan.
Unfortunately some think that by gaining some quality players.they can slack off.
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Great thread and totally agree........With Ox and Daniel.......let's play finals before threads like this come out....
And some of you think my threads are premature, WP, ban yourself for your comments....hehehe!
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no changes this years bar Morris and Ivan.
Unfortunately some think that by gaining some quality players.they can slack off.
Hey Ox, I never disagree with your posts for fear of being bitch slapped But......You have to give a little credit to Cotch, Grigg and to some extent Foley and Edwards. Those 4 have stepped up this year where the rest have either stagnated or gone backwards.......just my two bobs worth.... :thumbsup
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no changes this years bar Morris and Ivan.
Unfortunately some think that by gaining some quality players.they can slack off.
Hey Ox, I never disagree with your posts for fear of being bitch slapped But......You have to give a little credit to Cotch, Grigg and to some extent Foley and Edwards. Those 4 have stepped up this year where the rest have either stagnated or gone backwards.......just my two bobs worth.... :thumbsup
That's the problem TFT, when some step up others go backwards, then the year after they reverse rolls...
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no changes this years bar Morris and Ivan.
Unfortunately some think that by gaining some quality players.they can slack off.
Hey Ox, I never disagree with your posts for fear of being bitch slapped But......You have to give a little credit to Cotch, Grigg and to some extent Foley and Edwards. Those 4 have stepped up this year where the rest have either stagnated or gone backwards.......just my two bobs worth.... :thumbsup
That's the problem TFT, when some step up others go backwards, then the year father they reverse rolls...
That's between you and your dad
:outtahere
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Great thread and totally agree........With Ox and Daniel.......let's play finals before threads like this come out....
And some of you think my threads are premature, WP, ban yourself for your comments....hehehe!
Season is over mate
This needs addressing NOW
Would rest Cotch and Lids for the remainder of the year
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no changes this years bar Morris and Ivan.
Unfortunately some think that by gaining some quality players.they can slack off.
Hey Ox, I never disagree with your posts for fear of being bitch slapped But......You have to give a little credit to Cotch, Grigg and to some extent Foley and Edwards. Those 4 have stepped up this year where the rest have either stagnated or gone backwards.......just my two bobs worth.... :thumbsup
That's the problem TFT, when some step up others go backwards, then the year father they reverse rolls...
That's between you and your dad
:outtahere
Rick Astley's dad?
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Great thread and totally agree........With Ox and Daniel.......let's play finals before threads like this come out....
And some of you think my threads are premature, WP, ban yourself for your comments....hehehe!
Season is over mate
This needs addressing NOW
Would rest Cotch and Lids for the remainder of the year
I would go one step further and hire them out to other clubs. Geelong could do with both at the moment and all money's raised could contribute to the FTF. It's a win win for all involved :thumbsup
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Gee Gerks great thread, you have managed to make yourself look like a clown. Honestly the list at the start of your thread could be doubled by the stupid mistakes on and off field this year so don't get carried away with the "positives".
By the way, keep the cheap shots out of it.
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Mr Gerkin
You forgot the Carlton game; was within a kick and half with 16 minutes to go....
Yep going backwards I reckon you're right ;D :)
Thanks
WP
He only used good teams in his example. Carlton weren't forgotten. :lol
:lol
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no changes this years bar Morris and Ivan.
Unfortunately some think that by gaining some quality players.they can slack off.
Hey Ox, I never disagree with your posts for fear of being bitch slapped But......You have to give a little credit to Cotch, Grigg and to some extent Foley and Edwards. Those 4 have stepped up this year where the rest have either stagnated or gone backwards.......just my two bobs worth.... :thumbsup
lol
absolutely mate.
I do.
It's KPPs like Jak etc who let the team down
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Gee Gerks great thread, you have managed to make yourself look like a clown. Honestly the list at the start of your thread could be doubled by the stupid mistakes on and off field this year so don't get carried away with the "positives".
By the way, keep the cheap shots out of it.
So you think we are doing ok do you? Are you a cross dresser? FFS another clown who accepts mediocrity. I'll continue to write off the season for what it is - a backwards step. Can't believe you are now sticking up for the club, thought I'd at least have you onside. Look at that list, we've only beaten 3 of the top 8, massive fail anyway you want to spin it. We should be top 4 at least but we are mentally weak. North will finish top 4 and Melbourne will make finals before us. I could write an encyclopaedia of what the club has stuffed up this year and it's my right to tell you about it every week. 30 years FFS ::)
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Gee Gerks great thread, you have managed to make yourself look like a clown. Honestly the list at the start of your thread could be doubled by the stupid mistakes on and off field this year so don't get carried away with the "positives".
By the way, keep the cheap shots out of it.
So you think we are doing ok do you? Are you a cross dresser? FFS another clown who accepts mediocrity. I'll continue to write off the season for what it is - a backwards step. Can't believe you are now sticking up for the club, thought I'd at least have you onside. Look at that list, we've only beaten 3 of the top 8, massive fail anyway you want to spin it. We should be top 4 at least but we are mentally weak. North will finish top 4 and Melbourne will make finals before us. I could write an encyclopaedia of what the club has stuffed up this year and it's my right to tell you about it every week. 30 years FFS ::)
Dead right Gerks, pretty well sums it up mate, that's about where we are.....well done, about time you realsed it!!!!
Didn't realse it was you I called a cross dresser or clown but if I did well sorry mate, but if it wasn't you then keep out of it.
Honestly, get on perch when we actually make the finals consistently.....stuff me every chance we have had we blow it. Honesty wake up, we have blown easy games and have had that mentality for years!
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If you can get on a perch and bag the club so can I
And Owl of course
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lots of grand standing going on in these parts. :shh
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gerks avatar stinks
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And some of you think my threads are premature, WP, ban yourself for your comments....hehehe!
:rollin :rollin :lol :lol
:fishing :fishing
:dancing :dancing :dancing
:eyebrow :eyebrow
:laugh:
;D
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If you can get on a perch and bag the club so can I
And Owl of course
Have you ever seen Owl's perch? Leave the beaked one out of this.... >:(
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:sleep
.....And teams like the bombers, swans, Pies, eagles, hawks etc. make finals consistantly whilst we continue to rebuild year after year.
I really hope the Gale, Hardwick and the whole club aren't happy with near enough.
With that sort of attitude we'll never make it.
If we fail again next year will you be just as facetious?
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Gee Gerks great thread, you have managed to make yourself look like a clown. Honestly the list at the start of your thread could be doubled by the stupid mistakes on and off field this year so don't get carried away with the "positives".
By the way, keep the cheap shots out of it.
You're right nothing has gone right at our club this year.
We are the worst performed side this year. No excuses.
If we were serious we would be 11-3 this year but we are Richmond and we are not.
I've had enough of this footy club. If its not the 30 year rebuild its the sacked coaches overestimating of the players the terrible drafting the coterie groups and the old boys club that exists there.
We draft a superstar like Martin he lets himself and the club down.
Only a matter of time before the list the coach and the board implode and we become the lowest form of parasites in the AFL.
FTF asould be FTFA stands for Fantastic Terrific Failure Again.
Jack is a celebrity, Axel is an injury prone has been, Deledio is just a very good B+ player and Cotch will be Collingwood's next captain when Nick Maxwell runs for parliament at the next federal election.
Furthermore since 2009 after 14 games when we sat at 3-11 and 2010 4-10 2011 5 wins 8 losses and a draw and this year 7-7. That means squat other clubs rebuild in 3 years. Remember the Swans in 92-93 and 94 they won spoons in 1996 they made the GF. We have been rebuilding since the half time of the 1982 GF.
Wins against Hawthorn who have the best % in the league and the Swans who are ladder leaders whilst nice are as hollow as a 100 year old log in the forest. Nope nothing good can come of this.
Sloppy wins against GWS and Melbourne are proof of this. Right now we are a basket case. The only window that should be open at Punt Rd is the one where the stench has been residing for the last 30 years not the Premiership wIndow all the so called experts in the papers and the media are thinking is about to open.
Our win against Melbourne proved we are a basket case if the loss against Adelaide didn't the week before. Officially why do we commit in extending coaches contracts who take us nowhere when clearly we better off under Wallace. Sure in 2006 we lost 3 times by over 100 points and once by 90 points but that's because we had Nathan Brown was coming back from a broken leg. Remember those halcyon days pre round 10 in 2005. We were guns. Don't worry about the hollow 9th places in 2006 or 2008 or the 157 point loss to Geelong in 2007. That was just an aberration. We were much better than that under Wallace. We were locked and loaded and unlucky.
I have had it with this team this club and the typical terrible trashy torturous tiger efforts I have seen. This club is a disgrace broken promise after broken promise after broken promise. Benny Gale has a lot to answer for, we may as well bring back the Amazing Aberfeldie Aristocrat in Clinton Casey and Greg Miller at least then we had no expectations and no ambitions and the top 8 was always four years away based on a rebuild done on their terms let alone the turnover of 30 players on the senior list of 42 since the conclusion of 2009. What are they thinking down there and doing a proper rebuild when we have not made a finals series since 2001? Like we have the time and the patience to do that? I want premierships and not 1 point wins that's for loser clubs like St Kilda 15 goal to 20 goal victories. Would rather give the Premiership to the other club even if we won it by 89 points. Why can Hawthorn win by 96 and Geelong win by 119? Enough is enough time to change my surname to Salt and follow the Bombers who are a proud traditional footy club and respect their fans and treat them with dignity and respect and provide their fans with the care diligence and planned and considered way given their consistency of performance and effort.
Richmond once upon a time were great and these plans to make themselves great and the grandiose statements of 3-0-75 are outlandish and far fetched. I'll tell you why because we gave up a 33 point lead against Adelaide and we're overrun like an average pi$$y pathetic phony footy team. SUre North have done it 3 times this year but there is a spirit and dignity the way they do. I think it's called Shinboner Spirit and Carlton we all know are better than that and same with Fremantle and St Kilda look what they did to the proud Essendon. Our win against them was 6 weeks ago and means nothing because next year we will be worse than Melbourne and Dreamtime our chance to shine we lost. So now that you know why we won't be any good and we'll be worse than Melbourne wait for the fall when it comes say I told you so to all and sundry on here and prove to us all again and again why we are the worst performed team in the league since 1982.
Maybe instead of being the Tigers we can be called the Leopards because a leaopard never changes its spots and we haven't changes one bit since Dimma took over let alone the last 30 years. I'm crying writing it down but tough love does this to you and while it hurts we'll get used to it. After all Dimma is contracted to the end of 2014 and that coincides with the time our next rebuild is scheduled to begin. By the end of that new coaches deal it will be a 40 year plan since our last flag and that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside knowing that.
Maybe this should be our new song.
Our we're from Leopard Land
We never change our spots
We're from Leopard Land
Throw the bathwater out of the cot
Because the rebuild failed again
We've been crap since who knows when
When we're behind we stay behind
and when in front we don't
Our we're from Leopard Land
Our failures are mighty
and oh so very painful
A rebuild does stuff all
Our players can't even kick the ball
Our we're from Leopard
A team full of hacks
Oh we're from Leopard Land.
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.....And teams like the bombers, swans, Pies, eagles, hawks etc. make finals consistantly whilst we continue to rebuild year after year.
I really hope the Gale, Hardwick and the whole club aren't happy with near enough.
With that sort of attitude we'll never make it.
If we fail again next year will you be just as facetious?
Post of the year an exactly what I am saying, when the bloody hell does our rebuilding end because it's been happening for a bloody long time now and we ave moved no where!
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Gee Gerks great thread, you have managed to make yourself look like a clown. Honestly the list at the start of your thread could be doubled by the stupid mistakes on and off field this year so don't get carried away with the "positives".
By the way, keep the cheap shots out of it.
You're right nothing has gone right at our club this year.
We are the worst performed side this year. No excuses.
If we were serious we would be 11-3 this year but we are Richmond and we are not.
I've had enough of this footy club. If its not the 30 year rebuild its the sacked coaches overestimating of the players the terrible drafting the coterie groups and the old boys club that exists there.
We draft a superstar like Martin he lets himself and the club down.
Only a matter of time before the list the coach and the board implode and we become the lowest form of parasites in the AFL.
FTF asould be FTFA stands for Fantastic Terrific Failure Again.
Jack is a celebrity, Axel is an injury prone has been, Deledio is just a very good B+ player and Cotch will be Collingwood's next captain when Nick Maxwell runs for parliament at the next federal election.
Furthermore since 2009 after 14 games when we sat at 3-11 and 2010 4-10 2011 5 wins 8 losses and a draw and this year 7-7. That means squat other clubs rebuild in 3 years. Remember the Swans in 92-93 and 94 they won spoons in 1996 they made the GF. We have been rebuilding since the half time of the 1982 GF.
Wins against Hawthorn who have the best % in the league and the Swans who are ladder leaders whilst nice are as hollow as a 100 year old log in the forest. Nope nothing good can come of this.
Sloppy wins against GWS and Melbourne are proof of this. Right now we are a basket case. The only window that should be open at Punt Rd is the one where the stench has been residing for the last 30 years not the Premiership wIndow all the so called experts in the papers and the media are thinking is about to open.
Our win against Melbourne proved we are a basket case if the loss against Adelaide didn't the week before. Officially why do we commit in extending coaches contracts who take us nowhere when clearly we better off under Wallace. Sure in 2006 we lost 3 times by over 100 points and once by 90 points but that's because we had Nathan Brown was coming back from a broken leg. Remember those halcyon days pre round 10 in 2005. We were guns. Don't worry about the hollow 9th places in 2006 or 2008 or the 157 point loss to Geelong in 2007. That was just an aberration. We were much better than that under Wallace. We were locked and loaded and unlucky.
I have had it with this team this club and the typical terrible trashy torturous tiger efforts I have seen. This club is a disgrace broken promise after broken promise after broken promise. Benny Gale has a lot to answer for, we may as well bring back the Amazing Aberfeldie Aristocrat in Clinton Casey and Greg Miller at least then we had no expectations and no ambitions and the top 8 was always four years away based on a rebuild done on their terms let alone the turnover of 30 players on the senior list of 42 since the conclusion of 2009. What are they thinking down there and doing a proper rebuild when we have not made a finals series since 2001? Like we have the time and the patience to do that? I want premierships and not 1 point wins that's for loser clubs like St Kilda 15 goal to 20 goal victories. Would rather give the Premiership to the other club even if we won it by 89 points. Why can Hawthorn win by 96 and Geelong win by 119? Enough is enough time to change my surname to Salt and follow the Bombers who are a proud traditional footy club and respect their fans and treat them with dignity and respect and provide their fans with the care diligence and planned and considered way given their consistency of performance and effort.
Richmond once upon a time were great and these plans to make themselves great and the grandiose statements of 3-0-75 are outlandish and far fetched. I'll tell you why because we gave up a 33 point lead against Adelaide and we're overrun like an average pi$$y pathetic phony footy team. SUre North have done it 3 times this year but there is a spirit and dignity the way they do. I think it's called Shinboner Spirit and Carlton we all know are better than that and same with Fremantle and St Kilda look what they did to the proud Essendon. Our win against them was 6 weeks ago and means nothing because next year we will be worse than Melbourne and Dreamtime our chance to shine we lost. So now that you know why we won't be any good and we'll be worse than Melbourne wait for the fall when it comes say I told you so to all and sundry on here and prove to us all again and again why we are the worst performed team in the league since 1982.
Maybe instead of being the Tigers we can be called the Leopards because a leaopard never changes its spots and we haven't changes one bit since Dimma took over let alone the last 30 years. I'm crying writing it down but tough love does this to you and while it hurts we'll get used to it. After all Dimma is contracted to the end of 2014 and that coincides with the time our next rebuild is scheduled to begin. By the end of that new coaches deal it will be a 40 year plan since our last flag and that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside knowing that.
Maybe this should be our new song.
Our we're from Leopard Land
We never change our spots
We're from Leopard Land
Throw the bathwater out of the cot
Because the rebuild failed again
We've been crap since who knows when
When we're behind we stay behind
and when in front we don't
Our we're from Leopard Land
Our failures are mighty
and oh so very painful
A rebuild does stuff all
Our players can't even kick the ball
Our we're from Leopard
A team full of hacks
Oh we're from Leopard Land.
Read your first two lines TB and I have never said either of those comments, so your novel you wrote must be pretty well the same. Gee you must have some time on your hands...
Anyway time will tell.
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We are a disgrace, we should biatch slap ourselves silly
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
It's that pack 65' spoke of, WAT. Take no notice of them.
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
It's that pack 65' spoke of, WAT. Take no notice of them.
How many log on's do you ave CD.....;)
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
It's that pack 65' spoke of, WAT. Take no notice of them.
How many log on's do you ave CD.....;)
Give you a hint, you have only been posting with Coach in this thread
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
I'll ask you this. Have you seen no improvement this year whatsoever or so very little that its token and not developmental given the state of our list.? Hence you made a comment that Melbourne would overtake us next year or that our loss to Adelaide last week was worse than the Wallace era? Ask yourself those questions. Seriously ask them.
You are more than entitled to your opinion as we all are. Whilst I don't agree with you there is no name calling from me just a stance on where I sit on a certain topic and how I see things progressing. Just ask yourself the aformentioned questions from the previous paragraph and if you think that we are going nowhere then that's fine I'll leave it at that. :thumbsup
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
It's that pack 65' spoke of, WAT. Take no notice of them.
How many log on's do you ave CD.....;)
Give you a hint, you have only been posting with Coach in this thread
Haha....:)......
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you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
Nope. It's just that rather a lot of people have a different opinion to your alarmist one and they are expressing it.
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
I'll ask you this. Have you seen no improvement this year whatsoever or so very little that its token and not developmental given the state of our list.? Hence you made a comment that Melbourne would overtake us next year or that our loss to Adelaide last week was worse than the Wallace era? Ask yourself those questions. Seriously ask them.
You are more than entitled to your opinion as we all are. Whilst I don't agree with you there is no name calling from me just a stance on where I sit on a certain topic and how I see things progressing. Just ask yourself the aformentioned questions from the previous paragraph and if you think that we are going nowhere then that's fine I'll leave it at that. :thumbsup
I have seen the improvement this year, last year, the year before, the year before......etc....we have been improving all the time apparently.
Our loss to the Crows lat week was IMO worse than the loss to the Swans when Morton stuffed up.
Ansewer me this when are we going to improve to get get into finals and stay in the 8..... When, because the improvement cards been played over and over and over....
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
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Gee Gerks great thread, you have managed to make yourself look like a clown. Honestly the list at the start of your thread could be doubled by the stupid mistakes on and off field this year so don't get carried away with the "positives".
By the way, keep the cheap shots out of it.
You're right nothing has gone right at our club this year.
We are the worst performed side this year. No excuses.
If we were serious we would be 11-3 this year but we are Richmond and we are not.
I've had enough of this footy club. If its not the 30 year rebuild its the sacked coaches overestimating of the players the terrible drafting the coterie groups and the old boys club that exists there.
We draft a superstar like Martin he lets himself and the club down.
Only a matter of time before the list the coach and the board implode and we become the lowest form of parasites in the AFL.
FTF asould be FTFA stands for Fantastic Terrific Failure Again.
Jack is a celebrity, Axel is an injury prone has been, Deledio is just a very good B+ player and Cotch will be Collingwood's next captain when Nick Maxwell runs for parliament at the next federal election.
Furthermore since 2009 after 14 games when we sat at 3-11 and 2010 4-10 2011 5 wins 8 losses and a draw and this year 7-7. That means squat other clubs rebuild in 3 years. Remember the Swans in 92-93 and 94 they won spoons in 1996 they made the GF. We have been rebuilding since the half time of the 1982 GF.
Wins against Hawthorn who have the best % in the league and the Swans who are ladder leaders whilst nice are as hollow as a 100 year old log in the forest. Nope nothing good can come of this.
Sloppy wins against GWS and Melbourne are proof of this. Right now we are a basket case. The only window that should be open at Punt Rd is the one where the stench has been residing for the last 30 years not the Premiership wIndow all the so called experts in the papers and the media are thinking is about to open.
Our win against Melbourne proved we are a basket case if the loss against Adelaide didn't the week before. Officially why do we commit in extending coaches contracts who take us nowhere when clearly we better off under Wallace. Sure in 2006 we lost 3 times by over 100 points and once by 90 points but that's because we had Nathan Brown was coming back from a broken leg. Remember those halcyon days pre round 10 in 2005. We were guns. Don't worry about the hollow 9th places in 2006 or 2008 or the 157 point loss to Geelong in 2007. That was just an aberration. We were much better than that under Wallace. We were locked and loaded and unlucky.
I have had it with this team this club and the typical terrible trashy torturous tiger efforts I have seen. This club is a disgrace broken promise after broken promise after broken promise. Benny Gale has a lot to answer for, we may as well bring back the Amazing Aberfeldie Aristocrat in Clinton Casey and Greg Miller at least then we had no expectations and no ambitions and the top 8 was always four years away based on a rebuild done on their terms let alone the turnover of 30 players on the senior list of 42 since the conclusion of 2009. What are they thinking down there and doing a proper rebuild when we have not made a finals series since 2001? Like we have the time and the patience to do that? I want premierships and not 1 point wins that's for loser clubs like St Kilda 15 goal to 20 goal victories. Would rather give the Premiership to the other club even if we won it by 89 points. Why can Hawthorn win by 96 and Geelong win by 119? Enough is enough time to change my surname to Salt and follow the Bombers who are a proud traditional footy club and respect their fans and treat them with dignity and respect and provide their fans with the care diligence and planned and considered way given their consistency of performance and effort.
Richmond once upon a time were great and these plans to make themselves great and the grandiose statements of 3-0-75 are outlandish and far fetched. I'll tell you why because we gave up a 33 point lead against Adelaide and we're overrun like an average pi$$y pathetic phony footy team. SUre North have done it 3 times this year but there is a spirit and dignity the way they do. I think it's called Shinboner Spirit and Carlton we all know are better than that and same with Fremantle and St Kilda look what they did to the proud Essendon. Our win against them was 6 weeks ago and means nothing because next year we will be worse than Melbourne and Dreamtime our chance to shine we lost. So now that you know why we won't be any good and we'll be worse than Melbourne wait for the fall when it comes say I told you so to all and sundry on here and prove to us all again and again why we are the worst performed team in the league since 1982.
Maybe instead of being the Tigers we can be called the Leopards because a leaopard never changes its spots and we haven't changes one bit since Dimma took over let alone the last 30 years. I'm crying writing it down but tough love does this to you and while it hurts we'll get used to it. After all Dimma is contracted to the end of 2014 and that coincides with the time our next rebuild is scheduled to begin. By the end of that new coaches deal it will be a 40 year plan since our last flag and that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside knowing that.
Maybe this should be our new song.
Our we're from Leopard Land
We never change our spots
We're from Leopard Land
Throw the bathwater out of the cot
Because the rebuild failed again
We've been crap since who knows when
When we're behind we stay behind
and when in front we don't
Our we're from Leopard Land
Our failures are mighty
and oh so very painful
A rebuild does stuff all
Our players can't even kick the ball
Our we're from Leopard
A team full of hacks
Oh we're from Leopard Land.
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
Though the same....Sorry To inform you WAT but with this perception you have left us no other choice but delist you immediately.....it's time to go :lol
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
Don't see them blaming Knights at the Bombers or Craig at the Crows....they ave both leapfrogged us in less time!
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I want Terry back.
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
Though the same....Sorry To inform you WAT but with this perception you have left us no other choice but delist you immediately.....it's time to go :lol
I think you got the gist, I saw improvement in 95 too, thats what I was getting at, we are always improving aren't we, at same stage during some era we are always improving......but thats as good as it gets.....to date!
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Crows and Bombers didn't need a rebuild they just sacked their coaches mid contract. They don't accept mediocrity.
Have faith WAT, Dimma doesn't have long left :pray
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
We blame both Wallace and Frawly until our list is back to where it should have been before these two jockers took over. The lack of maturity and depth on our list can be traced back to both these jokers...Fact
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Crows and Bombers didn't need a rebuild they just sacked their coaches mid contract. They don't accept mediocrity.
Have faith WAT, Dimma doesn't have long left :pray
Will back Dimma to the end mate, same as I have every coach, players need to pay te way he wants them too and quite a few aren't, they are just cruising..
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
We blame both Wallace and Frawly until our list is back to where it should have been before these two jockers took over. The lack of maturity and depth on our list can be traced back to both these jokers...Fact
Might as well go back to the Geish too....
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
I'll ask you this. Have you seen no improvement this year whatsoever or so very little that its token and not developmental given the state of our list.? Hence you made a comment that Melbourne would overtake us next year or that our loss to Adelaide last week was worse than the Wallace era? Ask yourself those questions. Seriously ask them.
You are more than entitled to your opinion as we all are. Whilst I don't agree with you there is no name calling from me just a stance on where I sit on a certain topic and how I see things progressing. Just ask yourself the aformentioned questions from the previous paragraph and if you think that we are going nowhere then that's fine I'll leave it at that. :thumbsup
I have seen the improvement this year, last year, the year before, the year before......etc....we have been improving all the time apparently.
Our loss to the Crows lat week was IMO worse than the loss to the Swans when Morton stuffed up.
Ansewer me this when are we going to improve to get get into finals and stay in the 8..... When, because the improvement cards been played over and over and over....
That was against Port by the way.
If we make it this year we'll be there for a while to come.
We'll make it next year and the world is our oyster.
The rebuild undertaken has not been done before by this club at this huge length and admin and board of this club has shown the faith in this project and the success of it since the 70's when we were the best club. GIven where we are and where we have come from and how the club has invested I'm willing to stick it out as I believe in regardless of how long it's been.
For the record I was not a supporter of Wallace after a point and I expressed my opinion and concern in the direction he and Miller were taking us. I was proved right and my concerns we're expressed as early as 2007 before our capitulation to Geelong in round 6 as I felt our boys were bereft of confidence in the game plan and their skill level was so poor that any plan was rendered useless plus our players we weak hardly tackled shephered and did any of the one %.
At least with Dimma whilst we still have a long way to go as there are holes in our list the fundamentals he has instilled were not present in the 5 years Wallace coached such as playing for your teammate, one percenters, the players are bulking up, there are proper fitness regimes the club has a wonderful new facility there are more recruiters coaches and the game plan is one that can stand up to the rigors of the season. The consistency and the never say die attitude we have seen this year we have not seen for ages I'd say since 1996 where our losses were narrow all but one or 2 and when we won we did so with some sort of style hence our % was one of the best in the league and considering we have only had narrow wins against the minnows it is not reflective on our % which is really an indication of whether we won or lost against the elite sides. Remember at the start of the year no blowouts. We have been in the game in every game this season in the final quarter. Can you remember the last time that hapenned at this stage of the year.
We are on the right track mentally, physically and from a developmental and practical way on the footy field. Make no mistake we are on our way.
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Crows and Bombers didn't need a rebuild they just sacked their coaches mid contract. They don't accept mediocrity.
Have faith WAT, Dimma doesn't have long left :pray
Will back Dimma to the end mate, same as I have every coach, players need to pay te way he wants them too and quite a few aren't, they are just cruising..
Agree the list isn't quite good enough and more development is required with another clean out
Wait, wot? That's an excuse endless bloody rebuilds :banghead
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I laughed Shane Tuckerbag. Quality rant. :lol
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Thanks for the chat TB, not much point continuing when certain individuals can only contribute with their usual sarcasm.
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How come you can throw the toys out of the cot and others can't?
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How come you can throw the toys out of the cot and others can't?
Thats all your posts ever are though Gerks, smart arse comments, just about every post, very rarely do you actually comment on anything else relevant other than quoting other posters posts in a smart manner.
A jokes a joke but that's all you seem to do....anyway I will let you have the final say....you usually do! Cheers!
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
Don't see them blaming Knights at the Bombers or Craig at the Crows....they ave both leapfrogged us in less time!
The list at Adelaide bar a few players is the one that made the 8 in 2009. Neil Craig lost the players given he was there for 7 years. They have not rebuilt to the extent we have had to strip back our list.
Essendon again is in the same scenario as Adelaide albeit with a much poorer record and they fell into the 8 yet the backstabbing that went on in 2010 ensured they would have a shot with the current regime to get them up and running and to a certain extent they have. Sheeds never fully committed to a rebuild even after their last finals appearance in 2004 prior to 2009 and that is why when players like Dustin Fletcher retire it will leave a big hole in the side and ensure they fail to taste the ultimate success.
I'm happy how we are developing. After this years draft we'll address some needs and we'll be ready to attack and pursuit the ultimate dream given also free agency and the FTF also to entice solid uncontracted players (That's where Blair Hartley comes in) as we will be an attractive proposition to play for as our premiership window given the core age of our list and the games played will be open for a long time. Possibly 2015-2020.
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Gerks has his say on match days, not much of it is posted here on the forums but he has a bigger influence than you would imagine. The club and this site couldn't operate without him :shh
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
Don't see them blaming Knights at the Bombers or Craig at the Crows....they ave both leapfrogged us in less time!
They haven't leapfrogged us at all - they were never within a bull's roar of the depths that we were at. That's the most frustrating part of your rants WAT, your complete disregard or opposition to the notion of just how much worse we were than any other club in the modern history of the VFL/AFL. And sadly, that includes Fitzroy - the only, and I wish to emphasize ONLY, reason we survived where they failed was because of our supporters and coming back from that was never going to be anywhere near as easy as it has been for all the other teams you put up as our litmus tests.
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
Don't see them blaming Knights at the Bombers or Craig at the Crows....they ave both leapfrogged us in less time!
They haven't leapfrogged us at all - they were never within a bull's roar of the depths that we were at. That's the most frustrating part of your rants WAT, your complete disregard or opposition to the notion of just how much worse we were than any other club in the modern history of the VFL/AFL. And sadly, that includes Fitzroy - the only, and I wish to emphasize ONLY, reason we survived where they failed was because of our supporters and coming back from that was never going to be anywhere near as easy as it has been for all the other teams you put up as our litmus tests.
Reported :police: how dare you use facts to try and railroad another posters beliefs >:(
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How come you can throw the toys out of the cot and others can't?
Thats all your posts ever are though Gerks, smart behind comments, just about every post, very rarely do you actually comment on anything else relevant other than quoting other posters posts in a smart manner.
A jokes a joke but that's all you seem to do....anyway I will let you have the final say....you usually do! Cheers!
Another stuffing deflection
Mate I contribute more than just smart ass remarks, more than repetitive moronic rants which is your modus operandi, it's just that when you don't agree with them you start with insults like "cross dresser". I mean seriously. At least you were big enough to apologise.
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How come you can throw the toys out of the cot and others can't?
I will let you have the final say.
Usually but not this time
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
Don't see them blaming Knights at the Bombers or Craig at the Crows....they ave both leapfrogged us in less time!
They haven't leapfrogged us at all - they were never within a bull's roar of the depths that we were at. That's the most frustrating part of your rants WAT, your complete disregard or opposition to the notion of just how much worse we were than any other club in the modern history of the VFL/AFL. And sadly, that includes Fitzroy - the only, and I wish to emphasize ONLY, reason we survived where they failed was because of our supporters and coming back from that was never going to be anywhere near as easy as it has been for all the other teams you put up as our litmus tests.
Dissagree Smokey, the Crows were down and out, so we're the Bombers and we even finished above the Eagles a few years ago. That's crap saing I sad we were te worst club in afl/VFL history, I love how most of my words are twisted.
I said we are mentally weak ad it's shown for any years, IMO, we should be in front f the Crws,te Bombers, Freo and the Eagles and we aren't, but hey let's just keep rebuilding.
What happens if IF we fail next year...no this year is not over but I don't think we NOW deserve to get into the 8. I thought we would ad should f earlier but after watching some of the failures this year I don't think we are good enough to mix it wen the finals come because we won't handle it mentally...
My thoughts only!
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
I'll ask you this. Have you seen no improvement this year whatsoever or so very little that its token and not developmental given the state of our list.? Hence you made a comment that Melbourne would overtake us next year or that our loss to Adelaide last week was worse than the Wallace era? Ask yourself those questions. Seriously ask them.
You are more than entitled to your opinion as we all are. Whilst I don't agree with you there is no name calling from me just a stance on where I sit on a certain topic and how I see things progressing. Just ask yourself the aformentioned questions from the previous paragraph and if you think that we are going nowhere then that's fine I'll leave it at that. :thumbsup
Il answer this as i tend to agree with WAT most times.
Where has imporvement come from?
Edwards without a doubt
Rance see above
Grimes
Maric
Grigg
Not getting pumped
Tuck
Connors gone
Martin dumped for 2 weeks
I wont include Lids and Cotch as they are token guns. Having 50,000 can be celebrated also
Where there are positives, there are also negatives.
Jack R
Forward line. Struggling big time
Jackson
Fremantle Game
The problem IMO is that it seems we have improved in a few different areas, which we have, we still sit in 10th spot and a chance to finish pretty close to where we finished last year.
Stats dont lie and in a few years you look back on results/ladder not individual improvements etc etc
You have to take your chances when they present.
We have matched it with sides in the 8, therefore there should be no excuses not to make the 8. Its as simple as that!!!
Anything less is a sub par year for me.
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Disagree Smokey
Surprise :birthday :birthday and for the recor, exactly when we're the crows down and out? The have missed the finals the 3 times in the last 12 years......
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
I'll ask you this. Have you seen no improvement this year whatsoever or so very little that its token and not developmental given the state of our list.? Hence you made a comment that Melbourne would overtake us next year or that our loss to Adelaide last week was worse than the Wallace era? Ask yourself those questions. Seriously ask them.
You are more than entitled to your opinion as we all are. Whilst I don't agree with you there is no name calling from me just a stance on where I sit on a certain topic and how I see things progressing. Just ask yourself the aformentioned questions from the previous paragraph and if you think that we are going nowhere then that's fine I'll leave it at that. :thumbsup
Il answer this as i tend to agree with WAT most times.
Where has imporvement come from?
Edwards without a doubt
Rance see above
Grimes
Maric
Grigg
Not getting pumped
Tuck
Connors gone
Martin dumped for 2 weeks
I wont include Lids and Cotch as they are token guns. Having 50,000 can be celebrated also
Where there are positives, there are also negatives.
Jack R
Forward line. Struggling big time
Jackson
Fremantle Game
The problem IMO is that it seems we have improved in a few different areas, which we have, we still sit in 10th spot and a chance to finish pretty close to where we finished last year.
Stats dont lie and in a few years you look back on results/ladder not individual improvements etc etc
You have to take your chances when they present.
We have matched it with sides in the 8, therefore there should be no excuses not to make the 8. Its as simple as that!!!
Anything less is a sub par year for me.
That's a pretty logical post Daniel! Less than the 8 for me is below par.
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poo I tell you what, you lot are like pack of rabid dogs aren't you when someone has a different opinion, gang up, just because I believe that the players have let themselves and me as a paying member down again, .....bored of this poo!!!
I'll ask you this. Have you seen no improvement this year whatsoever or so very little that its token and not developmental given the state of our list.? Hence you made a comment that Melbourne would overtake us next year or that our loss to Adelaide last week was worse than the Wallace era? Ask yourself those questions. Seriously ask them.
You are more than entitled to your opinion as we all are. Whilst I don't agree with you there is no name calling from me just a stance on where I sit on a certain topic and how I see things progressing. Just ask yourself the aformentioned questions from the previous paragraph and if you think that we are going nowhere then that's fine I'll leave it at that. :thumbsup
Il answer this as i tend to agree with WAT most times.
Where has imporvement come from?
Edwards without a doubt
Rance see above
Grimes
Maric
Grigg
Not getting pumped
Tuck
Connors gone
Martin dumped for 2 weeks
I wont include Lids and Cotch as they are token guns. Having 50,000 can be celebrated also
Where there are positives, there are also negatives.
Jack R
Forward line. Struggling big time
Jackson
Fremantle Game
The problem IMO is that it seems we have improved in a few different areas, which we have, we still sit in 10th spot and a chance to finish pretty close to where we finished last year.
Stats dont lie and in a few years you look back on results/ladder not individual improvements etc etc
You have to take your chances when they present.
We have matched it with sides in the 8, therefore there should be no excuses not to make the 8. Its as simple as that!!!
Anything less is a sub par year for me.
Good post Daniel.
In my opinion I believe the inconsistency of players comes with there age and maturity. The lack of senior players in the side is hurting us more than most believe. We still have a little way to go to get that core group to the age we need them but when that group of players all do click at once I can see us being up for along time :shh
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How come you can throw the toys out of the cot and others can't?
I will let you have the final say.
Usually but not this time
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That's a pretty logical post Daniel! Less than the 8 for me is below par.
Yep below par, thats what i meant.
We have had our chances this year and the thing is if we cop a Fremantle Injury 2010 crisis, then what??
Finals gone for another year so then it becomes 2014.
This is our best chance to make the 8.
We have beaten Hawks, Swans, Saints(currently in the 8) and got within 2 goals of Crows, Eagles and Cats yet people think its a development year. hahahaha
Give me a spell.
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We have beaten Hawks, Swans, Saints(currently in the 8) and got within 2 goals of Crows, Eagles and Cats yet people think its a development year. hahahaha
Give me a spell.
And some people think we haven't improved at all and have already binned the season. Hahahahaha
Give me a spell
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You say we don't deserve to get into the 8?
Given Nought we're beaten by 20 goals 5 weeks ago do they?
Carlton have lost 6 of their last 8 and have gone from premiership favourites to almost mothballs do they deserve to make it?
Freo can't kick a score above 100 and play awful footy. Have only beaten Geelong and St Kilda who are in the top 8 currently and St KIlda's hold and Geelong's over the next few weeks will be fragile at best. Do they?
Richmond At least we have been consistent and whilst we are not playing the footy we were 5 weeks ago we at least have been consistent this year.
However the season is long and it has many peaks and troughs and whilst we are in a trough right now playing wise we fortunantely are playing some lesser qualified sides which means we are still winning. We went through the same patch last year struggling for 5 -6 weeks where we lost to Gold Coast and Essendon squandering a big lead that night too and Melbourne who five weeks after they beat us lost by 186 points to Geelong and have not looked forward since.
What I am trying to say is the fortunes of sides fluctuate from week to week but if you can still maintain a certain level of consistency and performance and not deviate from the plan you set out with at the start and don't compromise your stance by taking short cuts you will achieve your goal. Of course you will find forks in the road some self inflicted and some are placed their by opponents but dealing with the issues in a rational calm and mature way as we did last week with the petulant two is just part of learning growing up and dealing with problem. Whilst it isn't rosy at the top it isn't rosy in the middle on the way up or down or on the bottom.
Crucially we won on Saturday albeit in an ugly way and given the distraction and self inflicted wounds we gave ourselves the end result whilst not what we may have planned this time last week was ultimately what we were after by the Friday and that was the four points given the changes we had to deal with. That in itself shows maturity and a kind of strength which under past regimes we would not have seen and the excuses will have piled up. Winning under duress sometimes regardless of the quality of the opponent can sometimes be more important than winning when things are going all your own way and what that teaches is hardness courage and an ability to face your opponent regardless of the obstacles and go out there and get a job done something we have failed at consistently in the past 30 years.
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Every year is a development year until our list has age, depth and maturity. Until the we just have to suck it up and put up with the performance we put out. Bot only the blind and those with NFI can't see we are on the cusp of greatness, I'll be there for the ride while all you chicken littles are still hiding in your caves looking fore something to whinge about :lol :lol O'h did you hear the sky was falling :sleep :sleep
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That's a pretty logical post Daniel! Less than the 8 for me is below par.
Yep below par, thats what i meant.
We have had our chances this year and the thing is if we cop a Fremantle Injury 2010 crisis, then what??
Finals gone for another year so then it becomes 2014.
This is our best chance to make the 8.
We have beaten Hawks, Swans, Saints(currently in the 8) and got within 2 goals of Crows, Eagles and Cats yet people think its a development year. hahahaha
Give me a spell.
Spot on mate on that's why I get so annoyed when we drop games like the Crows
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Spot on mate on that's why I get so annoyed when we drop games like the Crows
Yep, dropping games we were never supposed to win has derailed our season. We should look at trading Delideo, Cotch and Jack at seasons end, the club has nothing to gain from playing these players anymore :lol
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Spot on mate on that's why I get so annoyed when we drop games like the Crows
Yep, dropping games we were never supposed to win has derailed our season. We should look at trading Delideo, Cotch and Jack at seasons end, the club has nothing to gain from playing these players anymore :lol
Why weren't we supposed to win?????
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so many with sybil disorders. :thumbsup
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the funny thing is, wat moans like bitch about being crap for 30 years, then turns around and says that we are coming from a higher base than clubs that have won more premierships in that time than we have played games in the finals.
just wave the magic want and everything will be better :lol
Veruca WAnTs it, and WAnTs it now!!
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the funny thing is, wat moans like bitch about being crap for 30 years, then turns around and says that we are coming from a higher base than clubs that have won more premierships in that time than we have played games in the finals.
just wave the magic want and everything will be better :lol
Veruca WAnTs it, and WAnTs it now!!
club was a basket case in so many ways but hey presto
rocky watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat. :lol
oh gotta love the emotion of some..
as long as they arent dosed up. :gobdrop
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Spot on mate on that's why I get so annoyed when we drop games like the Crows
Yep, dropping games we were never supposed to win has derailed our season. We should look at trading Delideo, Cotch and Jack at seasons end, the club has nothing to gain from playing these players anymore :lol
Why weren't we supposed to win?????
Because it was 5th v's 10th they were $1.42 favorites, The game was played on there turf where they have won every game his year. Anything else?
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C'mon people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
try to love one another right now, right now
:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
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We're better than you think
Grimes and King are our barometers unfortunately they have hardly played together all year
Stick with us we are ready to roar
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C'mon people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
try to love one another right now, right now
:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
You used to be cool. Now you've just turned weird. :angel:
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You saw improvement in 2009? Terry?
3 years ago and we are still out of the 8????? How much longer do we blame Wallace for??
Don't see them blaming Knights at the Bombers or Craig at the Crows....they ave both leapfrogged us in less time!
They haven't leapfrogged us at all - they were never within a bull's roar of the depths that we were at. That's the most frustrating part of your rants WAT, your complete disregard or opposition to the notion of just how much worse we were than any other club in the modern history of the VFL/AFL. And sadly, that includes Fitzroy - the only, and I wish to emphasize ONLY, reason we survived where they failed was because of our supporters and coming back from that was never going to be anywhere near as easy as it has been for all the other teams you put up as our litmus tests.
Dissagree Smokey, the Crows were down and out, so we're the Bombers and we even finished above the Eagles a few years ago. That's crap saing I sad we were te worst club in afl/VFL history, I love how most of my words are twisted.
I said we are mentally weak ad it's shown for any years, IMO, we should be in front f the Crws,te Bombers, Freo and the Eagles and we aren't, but hey let's just keep rebuilding.
What happens if IF we fail next year...no this year is not over but I don't think we NOW deserve to get into the 8. I thought we would ad should f earlier but after watching some of the failures this year I don't think we are good enough to mix it wen the finals come because we won't handle it mentally...
My thoughts only!
WAT, where on earth did I say or even hint that it was you who said those words? I could have sworn that was my opinion and those were my words, otherwise you have been arguing against yourself all these months??? And your follow on comment about the Bombers, Crows and Eagles just proves my point - you have no belief, capacity or desire to acknowledge that we were in a much much worse state of affairs than those sides over a much greater period, hence the stark difference in timeframes and effort required to rebuild. In our case, ladder position is such an inconsequential indicator when compared to other clubs of how quickly we should be able to improve.
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Spot on mate on that's why I get so annoyed when we drop games like the Crows
Yep, dropping games we were never supposed to win has derailed our season. We should look at trading Delideo, Cotch and Jack at seasons end, the club has nothing to gain from playing these players anymore :lol
I agree with some of this
Im not peed off we lost this game, cause like you said i never thought we would win for the most part.
What i got annoyed is losing it after being in front for most of the day and poo like Miller passing the ball from 30 metres out
thats the poo that peees me off, spuds like that getting a game ahead of youth.
go down fighting with youth is one thing but going down with an out and out spud on the field is another.
Match commitee also had a bad day.
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C'mon people now
smile on your brother
everybody get together
try to love one another right now, right now
:dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing :dancing
You used to be cool. Now you've just turned weird. :angel:
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
And nearly raising $6m in 18 months :banghead
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
And nearly raising $6m in 18 months :banghead
And what's this got to do with the players being mentally weak this year during games we could of won.
BTW RFCO, you seem to chime in when it suits you, you piped up when everyone was having a go at Connors and said he had been working his butt off to get back into the side and how much he had changed. I was a Connors advocate but after what he has done, perhaps more people at the club have their blinkers on than expected!
Care to comment on how Connors was yet again poorly managed by the club allowing him to get into this position again. Surely he would of had a support person!!!
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
And nearly raising $6m in 18 months :banghead
And what's this got to do with the players being mentally weak this year during games we could of won.
BTW RFCO, you seem to chime in when it suits you, you piped up when everyone was having a go at Connors and said he had been working his butt off to get back into the side and how much he had changed. I was a Connors advocate but after what he has done, perhaps more people at the club have their blinkers on than expected!
Care to comment on how Connors was yet again poorly managed by the club allowing him to get into this position again. Surely he would of had a support person!!!
Chill WAT!
There are dozens of threads where people have the chance to criticise the team or the club or the coaches. This thread is dedicated to the good things we have achieved. It should be left that way.
Despite the club having numerous areas that it needs to work on and still being out of the eight, there are still gains that we have made. There is nothing wrong with identifying them or indeed applauding them.
Connors? Poorly managed by the club? Sometimes a player, or person, has to take responsibility for his own actions.
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No this is a bagging thread
Please keep it in here
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
And nearly raising $6m in 18 months :banghead
And what's this got to do with the players being mentally weak this year during games we could of won.
BTW RFCO, you seem to chime in when it suits you, you piped up when everyone was having a go at Connors and said he had been working his butt off to get back into the side and how much he had changed. I was a Connors advocate but after what he has done, perhaps more people at the club have their blinkers on than expected!
Care to comment on how Connors was yet again poorly managed by the club allowing him to get into this position again. Surely he would of had a support person!!!
Chill WAT!
There are dozens of threads where people have the chance to criticise the team or the club or the coaches. This thread is dedicated to the good things we have achieved. It should be left that way.
Despite the club having numerous areas that it needs to work on and still being out of the eight, there are still gains that we have made. There is nothing wrong with identifying them or indeed applauding them.
Connors? Poorly managed by the club? Sometimes a player, or person, has to take responsibility for his own actions.
No this thread was directly aimed at me, read the heading and the comments, it was nothing more than a cheap shot because I have differing opinions as to where our players are mentally. But as per usual my comments are taken completely out of context.
Chilled thanks!
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No this is a bagging thread
Please keep it in here
Well why didn't you make that obvious in the OP?
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
And nearly raising $6m in 18 months :banghead
And what's this got to do with the players being mentally weak this year during games we could of won.
BTW RFCO, you seem to chime in when it suits you, you piped up when everyone was having a go at Connors and said he had been working his butt off to get back into the side and how much he had changed. I was a Connors advocate but after what he has done, perhaps more people at the club have their blinkers on than expected!
Care to comment on how Connors was yet again poorly managed by the club allowing him to get into this position again. Surely he would of had a support person!!!
I can't talk about football issues like that as I simply don't know them nor am I the club's psychologist. I tell you what I see, I saw Daniel work his arse off earlier in the year, the story is still true.
I have no problems with you disagreeing with company line but no need for this "when it suits you" thing, you could have asked me anything at any time in my questions thread.
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You forgot about our pee poor effort in only achieving 50 k plus members :banghead
And nearly raising $6m in 18 months :banghead
And what's this got to do with the players being mentally weak this year during games we could of won.
BTW RFCO, you seem to chime in when it suits you, you piped up when everyone was having a go at Connors and said he had been working his butt off to get back into the side and how much he had changed. I was a Connors advocate but after what he has done, perhaps more people at the club have their blinkers on than expected!
Care to comment on how Connors was yet again poorly managed by the club allowing him to get into this position again. Surely he would of had a support person!!!
I can't talk about football issues like that as I simply don't know them nor am I the club's psychologist. I tell you what I see, I saw Daniel work his behind off earlier in the year, the story is still true.
I have no problems with you disagreeing with company line but no need for this "when it suits you" thing, you could have asked me anything at any time in my questions thread.
Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
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That's a question for the coaches, WAT, not the digital media bloke :P
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That's a question for the coaches, WAT, not the digital media bloke :P
Then why can he/she comment on how hard Connors was working.. :wallywink
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Because I assume there are windows on the offices and he/she/it could see the training track :P
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Because I assume there are windows on the offices and he/she/it could see the training track :P
You assume, that's nice, well I will wait to see if RFCO can or can't answer for themselves instead of you assuming!
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
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That's a question for the coaches, WAT, not the digital media bloke :P
Then why can he/she comment on how hard Connors was working.. :wallywink
Fairly sure I answered that, "I tell you what I see, I saw Daniel work his behind off earlier in the year, the story is still true."
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
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Because I assume there are windows on the offices and he/she/it could see the training track :P
You assume, that's nice, well I will wait to see if RFCO can or can't answer for themselves instead of you assuming!
Lol windows are a conspiracy!
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
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Because I assume there are windows on the offices and he/she/it could see the training track :P
You assume, that's nice, well I will wait to see if RFCO can or can't answer for themselves instead of you assuming!
Lol windows are a conspiracy!
WTF...... :huh
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
Imagine how many nuffer emails he'd get like my grandma is better than Riewoldt drop him bla bla bla :lol
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
Imagine how many nuffer emails he'd get like my grandma is better than Riewoldt drop him bla bla bla :lol
Read my post again, emails sent to his assistant and a certain amount addressed by him!!!!!
It would of course have to be managed appropriately.
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
'More' answers or just the answers that 'back up' your argument?
Surely the club spends enough time (and resources) in this area.
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
'More' answers or just the answers that 'back up' your argument?
Surely the club spends enough time (and resources) in this area.
Why are you scared I am right?
As a member I should be able to question the club and players!
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Not your best efforts in here, WAT
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Not your best efforts in here, WAT
Well coach not many best efforts across this forum I am afraid.
Now should come the usual... Well leave then!!
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Not your best efforts in here, WAT
Completely disagree CD, he may be a little groggy driving through so much heavy traffic but he really has been the veritable workbench through this thread.
Many others, including our midfield would've given up about halfway through page 2.
When it comes to no excuses, WAPNGQT has stepped up in this thread.
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ive been banned from two sites for no other reason than ive harped on the negatives. mainly being too negative towards older players. needless to say at the end of day ive been proven right far more often than not. but even on those sites ive recognised improvement when its happened.
over here i could bag em to my hearts content but i dont. why because we are improving winning doesnt always reflect that.
all i can say is and its only my opinion those who expected finals at the start of the yr and still think wins are the only way to gauge improvement are totally deluded. i will say again this yr was never about winning games and having to make finals, but its become that not only for supporters but the club as well it seems.
no wonder we cant get anywhere a couple of meaningless wins and all and sundry want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
we have improved greatly in several areas but important areas that will take yrs more to fix continue to hurt us.
what a pathetic lot we are. time to not only toughen up but start useing just a bit nof grey matter and common sense.
just to finish ive not seen one poster on this forum post what they think is needed, yes kpis as far as the list itself goes that will enable us to actually become a good consiustent finals side.
you can talk till your blue in the face but most on here just plain ignore experience games played depth quality etc and cry like freakin babys when we lose. how hard is it to understand we will not become a good consistent side until we actually meet kpis.
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just to finish ive not seen one poster on this forum post what they think is needed, yes kpis as far as the list itself goes that will enable us to actually become a good consiustent finals side.
Then you haven't looked too hard. In fact, it's quite consiustently discussed.
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ive been banned from two sites for no other reason than ive harped on the negatives. mainly being too negative towards older players. needless to say at the end of day ive been proven right far more often than not. but even on those sites ive recognised improvement when its happened.
over here i could bag em to my hearts content but i dont. why because we are improving winning doesnt always reflect that.
all i can say is and its only my opinion those who expected finals at the start of the yr and still think wins are the only way to gauge improvement are totally deluded. i will say again this yr was never about winning games and having to make finals, but its become that not only for supporters but the club as well it seems.
no wonder we cant get anywhere a couple of meaningless wins and all and sundry want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
we have improved greatly in several areas but important areas that will take yrs more to fix continue to hurt us.
what a pathetic lot we are. time to not only toughen up but start useing just a bit nof grey matter and common sense.
just to finish ive not seen one poster on this forum post what they think is needed, yes kpis as far as the list itself goes that will enable us to actually become a good consiustent finals side.
you can talk till your blue in the face but most on here just plain ignore experience games played depth quality etc and cry like freakin babys when we lose. how hard is it to understand we will not become a good consistent side until we actually meet kpis.
Couldn't agree more.
Still need to turn over a fair portion of the list. I'm confident we will.
Rome wasn't built in a day..
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ive been banned from two sites for no other reason than ive harped on the negatives. mainly being too negative towards older players. needless to say at the end of day ive been proven right far more often than not. but even on those sites ive recognised improvement when its happened.
over here i could bag em to my hearts content but i dont. why because we are improving winning doesnt always reflect that.
all i can say is and its only my opinion those who expected finals at the start of the yr and still think wins are the only way to gauge improvement are totally deluded. i will say again this yr was never about winning games and having to make finals, but its become that not only for supporters but the club as well it seems.
no wonder we cant get anywhere a couple of meaningless wins and all and sundry want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
we have improved greatly in several areas but important areas that will take yrs more to fix continue to hurt us.
what a pathetic lot we are. time to not only toughen up but start useing just a bit nof grey matter and common sense.
just to finish ive not seen one poster on this forum post what they think is needed, yes kpis as far as the list itself goes that will enable us to actually become a good consiustent finals side.
you can talk till your blue in the face but most on here just plain ignore experience games played depth quality etc and cry like freakin babys when we lose. how hard is it to understand we will not become a good consistent side until we actually meet kpis.
yes remember your contributions on one of the sites.
like the insight dont always agree.
keep punching.
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
Imagine how many nuffer emails he'd get like my grandma is better than Riewoldt drop him bla bla bla :lol
Read my post again, emails sent to his assistant and a certain amount addressed by him!!!!!
It would of course have to be managed appropriately.
I read it fine. By him I meant the assistant would get. 99.9% of the emails received would be nuffer emails. We'd spend half the FTF on hiring people to sift through the poo. :shh
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Ok then so what is the thought process our players have where they can lose to a team after completely dominating them to the tune of 30 plus points. Why do our players seem to drop the games that hinge on us making the 8, what is our mental perpetration compared to other clubs, why do we just about always seem to be mentally weaker when the pressure in on???
Again, I can't answer that.
Thanks, well it would nice for someone at the club to explain these losses, because as a member I would like to know what is going on with the players when they blow these games.
But thanks!
Dimma does his best to recap the match in his Direct from Dimma videos we send out to members.
Yep I realise that and I do watch his presentation but I don't believe he answers all the questions, perhaps he should have a segment where he answers members emails during the video... Limited amount of course and sent though to his rep prior to the recording!
I realise the club has certain issues they won't or can't discuss but sometimes after these losses I want more answers than he gives!
Imagine how many nuffer emails he'd get like my grandma is better than Riewoldt drop him bla bla bla :lol
Read my post again, emails sent to his assistant and a certain amount addressed by him!!!!!
It would of course have to be managed appropriately.
I read it fine. By him I meant the assistant would get. 99.9% of the emails received would be nuffer emails. We'd spend half the FTF on hiring people to sift through the poo. :shh
So then the club caps the amount through their internal mail system, for example; there will be a completely new email address, the first 20 emails through will be viewed and 5-10 selected to be answered by the coach. The rest after the first 20 would be automatically blocked by the system.....not hard really.
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What if I send through the same email 20 times? :shh
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What if I send through the same email 20 times? :shh
Well you would be a fool.....;)
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What if someone with amnesia sent the email through 20 times?
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We've improved since we're above Carlton
:gotigersTo all Carlton supporters suffering from depression call Jeff kennet to enroll for free counseling sessions in Beyond Blues
RFC
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:lol
Roy is my favourtite poster. 8 posts is not enough. I want 8000 out of you, Roy. :gotigers
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We've definitely improved. My delusions that we will make the finals have previously been shattered well before July.