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Title: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 10, 2011, 05:35:53 PM
In 2012, which teams will significantly slide down the ladder, and which teams will significantly gain positions up the ladder, compared to their 2011 finish?

I'll say:-

Sliders

Essendon
Stkilda
North
Melbs

Improvers

Freo
Richmond
GC
Adelaide



Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 10, 2011, 10:25:27 PM
Agree

although i think the Bummers will still be in the 8.

Blues top 4 if not higher :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 11, 2011, 11:51:08 AM
Sliders

Eagles - bottom end of the 8
Saints
North
Brisbane - will be saved from the Spoon by GWS  ;D

Improvers

Richmond
Adelaide
Dogs - change of coach factor will have them in the 8
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Jackstar is back again on December 11, 2011, 11:51:30 AM
Freo to take the saints spot would be ironic
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: The Big Richo on December 11, 2011, 02:48:43 PM
Sliders
Gerks, Owl, Dookie, Davey

Improver
WA Tiger
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Bengal on December 11, 2011, 04:39:20 PM
Sliders

Saints - new coach and they're still in turmoil
Freo - negative football for 12 months will see them drop away for a season
Bombers - Honeymoon is over
Geelong - to many players have left and cant see them winning it next year, so a slider

Improvers

Richmond - of course  :gotigers
Hawks - may go all the way
Carlton - unfortunately i think they will go top 4
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Jackstar is back again on December 11, 2011, 04:58:24 PM
Sliders
Gerks, Owl, Dookie, Davey

Improver
WA Tiger

Now thats a ''classy post"" :thumbsup
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Mr Magic on December 11, 2011, 05:16:29 PM
Sliders
Melbourne
Essendon
Brisbane
Sydney
Bulldogs

Improvers
Richmond
North
West Coast
Carlton
Fremantle

Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: gerkin greg on December 11, 2011, 05:22:05 PM
Sliders
Gerks, Owl, Dookie, Davey

Improver
WA Tiger

Now thats a ''classy post"" :thumbsup

Looks like Nigel has got a crush  :-*
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 11, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
Sliders
Gerks, Owl, Dookie, Davey

Improver
WA Tiger

Who is this?

How very dare you  >:(
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: mightytiges on December 12, 2011, 03:42:04 AM
Sliders

St Kilda
Bulldogs

Improvers

Melbourne
Fremantle

Ladder-wise I don't see us moving up greatly yet. List is still too young and inexperienced and we still lack the necessary depth.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Tigermonk on December 30, 2011, 05:13:41 PM
l got 1k that the Skunks slide to the poo pit & the Tigers will finish higher than them  :pray
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 30, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
l got 1k that the Skunks slide to the poo pit & the Tigers will finish higher than them  :pray

Odds?
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Penelope on December 30, 2011, 08:45:21 PM
l got 1k that the Skunks slide to the poo pit & the Tigers will finish higher than them  :pray

i reckon there is a fair chance the wheels could fall of for colonwoood. depending on odds, that could be a good bet TM. i was considering backing them to miss the finals myself
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 30, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
l got 1k that the Skunks slide to the poo pit & the Tigers will finish higher than them  :pray

i reckon there is a fair chance the wheels could fall of for colonwoood. depending on odds, that could be a good bet TM. i was considering backing them to miss the finals myself

Not a bad call in principle Big Al, for mine they will slide but perhaps not as far as 9th.

If we are $2 or greater to make the 8 I'll be dialing in a few hunjees  :cheers
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Penelope on December 30, 2011, 09:52:19 PM
sportingbet have us at 3.25 to make the 8
they have the skunks at 6.50 to miss the 8. Weak as pee I'll be looking for a better bet than that.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: The Big Richo on December 31, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Penelope on December 31, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
For me the main rationale comes from what effect the whole saga with Malhouse/Buckley combined with loosing the grand final will have on the club.

It's as much a gut feeling as anything i suppose, but that could be the curry and beer from last night though.

For me to outlay money on it I want long shot odds, as in reality that's what it is, but to me it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: mightytiges on December 31, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
I would leave the Richmond to finish higher than Collingwood bet for another year. Sadly I think the mongrels will be up there again in 2012 :chuck while we still have a young and inexperienced core group.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on December 31, 2011, 06:23:42 PM
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: The Big Richo on January 01, 2012, 07:38:18 PM
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers

My New Years resolution is to enter you.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 01, 2012, 08:33:43 PM
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers

My New Years resolution is to enter you.

Good luck hot stuff  :burgereater
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: one-eyed on January 02, 2012, 12:53:51 PM
Here's the current top 8 odds:

COLLINGWOOD   1.10       
GEELONG            1.15      
HAWTHORN         1.25      
CARLTON            1.30      
ST KILDA            1.45      
WEST COAST      1.45      
SYDNEY              1.65      
ADELAIDE           1.85   
-------------------------   
ESSENDON         1.85      
NORTH MELB.     1.85      
FREMANTLE        1.90      
RICHMOND         3.25      
MELBOURNE       3.50      
BRISBANE           4.00      
W.BULLDOGS     4.00      
PORT ADEL.      13.00      
GOLD COAST    21.00
G.W.S.             81.00

http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=101&MeetingType=1
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 02, 2012, 02:57:32 PM
Here's the current top 8 odds:

COLLINGWOOD   1.10       
GEELONG            1.15      
HAWTHORN         1.25      
CARLTON            1.30      
ST KILDA            1.45      
WEST COAST      1.45      
SYDNEY              1.65      
ADELAIDE           1.85   
-------------------------   
ESSENDON         1.85      
NORTH MELB.     1.85      
FREMANTLE        1.90      
RICHMOND         3.25      
MELBOURNE       3.50      
BRISBANE           4.00      
W.BULLDOGS     4.00      
PORT ADEL.      13.00      
GOLD COAST    21.00
G.W.S.             81.00

http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=101&MeetingType=1

I'll have a piece of that -  Richmond, freo and bulldogs.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 02, 2012, 05:22:33 PM
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

If Buckley or Eddie had any sort of dignity and loved Collingwood knowing how Malthouse had the team going he would have stepped aside and let Mick continue until he wanted to, or Eddie would have seen to it. This saga to a large degree has cost Collingwood the flag in 2011 and Eddie stubborness to see this out will be detrimental to the Skunks. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Add the fact that Watters and Neeld have moved on and Buckley has got blokes with little or no experience at his side with Eade as director of coaching making sure he is doing it all right and its a nice little molotov cocktail there.

Pendlebury signing a one year deal and the rumours on whether he'll join his bro at GWS will add another bad feel to the club this year and with Eddie putting up smokescreens to tell GWS he will make their life hell just adds to the behind the scenes funs at the Nexus Centre which again goes back to the players responding to Mick and what they think of Nayfan.

Yeah Geelong may slide a few rungs too I agree but the Pies may be bigger sliders than some may want to believe or admit at this point in time.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Penelope on January 02, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
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Add the fact that Watters and Neeld have moved on and Buckley has got blokes with little or no experience at his side

yeah, good point tucker
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: The Big Richo on January 02, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
I guess it comes back to how highly you rate coaching as a factor in a teams success.

Being inexperienced didn't seem to hurt Chris Scott.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: Penelope on January 02, 2012, 06:47:16 PM
yeah, true.
were there many coaching staff changes made at geelong when he started?
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: The Big Richo on January 02, 2012, 06:52:36 PM
Looking at their website Caracella and Lappin seem to have been there throughout.
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: tiger101 on January 09, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
Quote

2012 Top non-vic team

ADELAIDE 4.00    
BRISBANE    11.00    
FREMANTLE 4.50   
PORT ADELAIDE 101.00     
SYDNEY   3.25    
WEST COAST   2.75    
GOLD COAST   251.00       
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY   501.00

http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=101&MeetingType=1

Fremantle at 4.50 is paying nicely if you believe they will bounce back in a big way. 
Title: Re: Sliders and Improvers
Post by: tdy on January 10, 2012, 11:51:53 PM
What's the rationale for suggesting COllingwood will slide?

They have a young list, good depth, have lost next to nothing and have the hunger that comes from a losing GF.

The only question mark I can see if their new coaching set up.

I would say Geelong are a much greater chance to slide.

This is clearly the worst post in Internet history, guy. Collingwood have plenty of question marks.

And Dookie says get on Richmond for the top 8.  :gotigers

My New Years resolution is to enter you.

Good luck hot stuff  :burgereater

U guys cack me up! ROTFLOL