One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: PuntRdRoar on March 31, 2006, 10:18:02 PM
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There are some people at Punt Rd who have seriously taken the pee out of the Richmond supporters, seriously taken the pee. These people dont like criticism, they cant cop it, but in the end truth is reflected in reality. Richmond supporters have been hoodwinked by the bull.dust- and we all know it and finally if some of these people have any honor at all then tonight they should resign there positions from the Richmond FC and no im not talking about Wallace and his coaching team but some other people who have been around and spun so much bull.dust it seems that they themselves are not capable of differentiating between fantasy and reality!
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Who are you talking about, you'll have to be a little bit more specific than that!
It's the players that need to look at themselves. And yes I'll be the first one to name names tonight.
Gaspar was atrocious. If we're gonna lose games like this get the kids in there and pension him off. TO not have a chase at Johnson's 3rd goal early in the last tonight made my blood boil
Pettifer needs to concentrate on laying some body in a contest, even if he thinks he can't win the ball, instead he is too busy crying out to the umpires about how unfairly done by he's been. You are 24 Kayne Pettifer, get over it, you'll never win, go in and get the bloody thing.
And Rampaging Tiger, I agree with you, even though I haven't got the faintest who you are talking about.
Bloody Richmond!
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I am probably wrong but i suspect Mr Miller?
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We can't back up our talk with the walk. As simple as that. Until we can we as a club should shut our gobs. It just makes us look like idiots otherwise.
To be fair, we did say the early rounds would be a true indication of where we are at. At least they were right :P :rollin.
Sorry for laughing but if you don't you'd cry after spending 3 hours totally peeed off watching us get pulverised live :'(.
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We won't go anywhere untill we get our recruiting department into shape and start recruiting some decent players. Miller has been very ordinary in this regard.
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As Moi said in another thread the blame lies with Geischen and Frawley recruiting recycled duds ahead of youth. We lack the players in the 21-24 age group that the doggies pumped us with.
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As Moi said in another thread the blame lies with Geischen and Frawley recruiting recycled duds ahead of youth. We lack the players in the 21-24 age group that the doggies pumped us with.
What's even more worrying is that our under 21's dont look much chop either with the exception of Deledio.
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As Moi said in another thread the blame lies with Geischen and Frawley recruiting recycled duds ahead of youth. We lack the players in the 21-24 age group that the doggies pumped us with.
What's even more worrying is that our under 21's dont look much chop either with the exception of Deledio.
I have to agree with JohnF there. Apart from Raines and Lids the rest just didn't look up to it. I just don't see many packages (players) with both Brains and Skills comming up.
Thats were we get beaten , Brains and Skills.
I feel like saying a heap more about some long term players that have one of these two things but not both. But its round 1, with 21 to go so there is no point.
Just have to be patient , whats another 5-10 years for a long term Tiger supporter. :banghead
Who's betting on we see this thread on the boards soon? "Who do we pick with our Number 1 draft pick?" :'(
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Has anyone got any ideas as to how to deal with this?
Im at a loss as like most of us are.
I can cope with losing but 115points is just beyond belief.
I have run out of things to say even after letting the anger subside overnight.
Actually i will give credit to the dogs in that they didnt stop and completely buried us.
God help us against the saints next week.
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Has anyone got any ideas as to how to deal with this?
Im at a loss as like most of us are.
With the way the current system runs there is very little that can be done. Unlike many US sports the have a trade period that runs untill part way through the year we have no such chance to change the structure. Everything is done in a week and then the supporters have to sit though a whole season ( hopefully not as bad a R1) with little or no hope. I know there are other problems with open trade setups but at least we could be now speculating who we might get If we traded this player or that. At least keep our hopes up.
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After waking up this morning, I have actually managed to find a positive. I think the numbers on the jumper are ok lol :o
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As Moi said in another thread the blame lies with Geischen and Frawley recruiting recycled duds ahead of youth. We lack the players in the 21-24 age group that the doggies pumped us with.
What's even more worrying is that our under 21's dont look much chop either with the exception of Deledio.
IMO a bit unfair there ro Rainesy, played impressively. But it was a worry that Patto, Rodan, Tambling and guys like that didn't get much of the ball
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I feel I've really let myself down.
I went and watched the Tiges play on the coast and wrapped up Kayne. I said things like 'looks like he belongs' 'great endevor' etc.
Well it's obvious he read what I wrote and its gone to his head. I have rarley seen anyone more useless when attempting to tackle an opponent :banghead. This is coming from a man who plays rugby league on weekends and was part of a 114-0 win last Saturday. Those losers would have tackled harder than you Pettifer! ::)
Now on a more positive note both the Nathan's in our team were excellent last night.
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Agree regarding the lack of quality kids coming through and for this our recruiting and especially Miller needs to be held accountable. I've watched some coburg games and let me tell you the future isn't looking bright. I'll go back 3 drafts - Gilmour and Archibald have gone. Roach and Jackson will be delisted come year end. Hartigan is ordinary and might become a battler. Raines seems to be making his mark but won't be anything outstanding. Lids is special. Tambling - massive question marks (boy I would have loved Griffen). Meyer - the same but I have more confidence in him than I do of Tambling. Pattison, Polo forget about it - top 20 picks should know how to kick the thing. mcGuane - don't think so. Limbach - impresses me. Can't comment on the latest draft. So all in all we have 1 certainty, and 3 or so maybe's out of 14 kids we selected in 2 drafts. This is where the problem lies - our recruiting is pathetic.
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Scott Clayton :bow
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It would also help if the coach would leave recruiting to the recruiting guys.
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Scott Clayton is the person to target and get to punt rd
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Who else is there? Geelong have done pretty well without too many early draft picks. Who does their recruiting?
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Kane Johnson article in The Age today...just atrocious stuff from an AFL captain. Mr Johnson, I respect the fact that your captain, but do you respect the fact that without the 27-28,000 paid members every year and the other 7 or 8,000 non ticketed members and without the supporters who pay money at the Gate which goes to the club, do you understand that you wouldnt earn what you earn. Stick to playing footy Johnno, try and lift your players and leave the sledging of our supporters to the opposition supporters.
Regards
Ramps
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It would also help if the coach would leave recruiting to the recruiting guys.
Maybe we need Sheeds to be our recruiter ;) , amazing how he got a 1st rounder for Richards
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I can't believe that after an impressive preseason we have stunned by so much. Either it has been a big fluke or the other clubs have been bluffing
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Is it the kids or is the same old problem we've had at the club for years - development. We probably have got some good kids, but have we got the right personnel to bring them up to speed, as other clubs seem to. All these kids can't be bad. That's my worry :banghead
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Is it the kids or is the same old problem we've had at the club for years - development. We probably have got some good kids, but have we got the right personnel to bring them up to speed, as other clubs seem to. All these kids can't be bad. That's my worry :banghead
I still think it's both. When I hear such and such is hard at it, has a good work ethic, etc ... BUT his disposal could be better or he needs to work on it I'm concerned. The ability to think quickly and have precise footskills are now non-negotiable when recruiting.
As for development, our new kids even the talented ones are still very young so their performances will be up and down. It's going to take time (in years) but they need game time ahead of those who won't take us to a flag. Our round 1 side was more of the same old hands.
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Moi my fear is not the development under Wallace and Royal, but rather when the new kids come in, they are expected to come in and be humble and know their place in the club with the OTHER PLAYERS! Take note about the "OTHER PLAYERS" the problem isnt the development people its the people our kids have to play with...Some have been there a very very long time and are supposed leaders...sadly whenever the poo hits the fan Ive never seen 1 of them ever stand up and stem the tide in a game. All i see is blowouts and opposition teams coming in like tsunamis into the beach!
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Moi my fear is not the development under Wallace and Royal, but rather when the new kids come in, they are expected to come in and be humble and know their place in the club with the OTHER PLAYERS! Take note about the "OTHER PLAYERS" the problem isnt the development people its the people our kids have to play with...Some have been there a very very long time and are supposed leaders...sadly whenever the poo hits the fan Ive never seen 1 of them ever stand up and stem the tide in a game. All i see is blowouts and opposition teams coming in like tsunamis into the beach!
That then falls back on the coaching staff to base things on merit and over time clean out the deadwood and make tough decisions that benefit the Club in the long term. A kid who with development will become a A-grader shouldn't have to go to the end of the line behind some inferior senior player who won't take us to a flag. Browny arriving illustrated what A-grade standard is to Richmond. No one else fits consistently into that category at the Club. I can't see Lids knowing his "place" and being humble to B and C grade senior players. Not the only either :shh.
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As for development, our new kids even the talented ones are still very young so their performances will be up and down. It's going to take time (in years) but they need game time ahead of those who won't take us to a flag. Our round 1 side was more of the same old hands.
They need to spend a year or two in the reserves to properly develop IMO - never hurt Michael Tuck who had about 2 years and still managed over 400 - what a freak he was. But because of Deledio, we expect them to play straight away these days. And then you get kids like Tambo, who probably do need extra time. But we all want the kids to play, so damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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As for development, our new kids even the talented ones are still very young so their performances will be up and down. It's going to take time (in years) but they need game time ahead of those who won't take us to a flag. Our round 1 side was more of the same old hands.
They need to spend a year or two in the reserves to properly develop IMO - never hurt Michael Tuck who had about 2 years and still managed over 400 - what a freak he was. But because of Deledio, we expect them to play straight away these days. And then you get kids like Tambo, who probably do need extra time. But we all want the kids to play, so damned if you do and damned if you don't.
That's true Moi.
If only Coburg wasn't itself such a young and inexperienced side :-\.