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Title: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 11, 2015, 12:30:12 PM
Nearing the end of the year, I though it would be interesting to gauge with the flock which players you respect less given their on and off field performances this year.

Perhaps Cotchin, for his miserable 9 possessions vs Norf and failing to fire again in finals.

Perhaps Dusty, for the alleged behaviour last weekend.

Alex Rance for taking so much time off?

Reece Conca for percieved fitness issues.

Griffiths, for failing to come on?

Discuss.

Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 11, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
Cotch, Lids, Ellis, Edwards. Didn't deliver when it counted.
Don't hate them, just don't respect them as much as I did. Don't see how anyone could really. It's all about finals.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Diocletian on December 11, 2015, 01:52:17 PM
Cotchin has at least stood up in one final when the chips were down....which still puts him in a very small but elite group at RFC of him, Vlastuin, Maric (2013), Miles, Rance & Riewoldt (2015)
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Yeahright on December 11, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
Hunt - didn't expect the world but thought he'd be a handy pick up but has been pretty disappointing.
Cotchin - everyone has a dog day but 9 possessions? Gee wiz.

On another tangent 2 players have earnt more of my respect
Grimes - I know Claw thinks he's soft but I disagree. May not be big bodied but he isn't scared to put it on the line
Miles - liked him last year, loved him this year. You can always trust him in the centre and does quite well defensively too.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: mat073 on December 11, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
I respect anyone for being good enough to play footy at the highest level.

I was disappointed in a few senior players for not standing up when it counted last September .

We were good enough to beat North . Chance to play in a preliminary final went begging .
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: dogged on December 11, 2015, 06:27:20 PM
Cotchin has at least stood up in one final when the chips were down....which still puts him in a very small but elite group at RFC of him, Vlastuin, Maric (2013), Miles, Rance & Riewoldt (2015)
I think you will find lids averages 24 possies per final and nearly a goal per final, I'll bet there are many , many afl players and (not good enough to tie bootlaces) supporters who would love to do that.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 11, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
+1

Rewatch the three games and tell me again how rubbish lids is. Fools.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Yeahright on December 11, 2015, 07:01:59 PM
Cotchin has at least stood up in one final when the chips were down....which still puts him in a very small but elite group at RFC of him, Vlastuin, Maric (2013), Miles, Rance & Riewoldt (2015)
I think you will find lids averages 24 possies per final and nearly a goal per final, I'll bet there are many , many afl players and (not good enough to tie bootlaces) supporters who would love to do that.

That's a decent average but I wouldn't call that standing up when the chips are down
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: the claw on December 11, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
I respect anyone for being good enough to play footy at the highest level.

I was disappointed in a few senior players for not standing up when it counted last September .

We were good enough to beat North . Chance to play in a preliminary final went begging .
No we weren't stop  kidding yourself.
We have had more than a few senior players fail to stand up in september. every year  it is almost an epidemic come september.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Yeahright on December 11, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
Yeah mat. They were toying with us the whole game and we were actually no where near winning :lol
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Diocletian on December 11, 2015, 07:17:52 PM
+1

Rewatch the three games and tell me again how rubbish lids is. Fools.

Yeah you re-watch them then tell us again not how good he was when we were overrunning Carlton and 5 goals up , not how good he was in second half v Port when they were 10 goals up and the horse had bolted, but how good he was when those matches were on the line and Carlton, Port & North were overrunning us....
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: WA Tiger on December 11, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
Need I say  :whistle
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 11, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
+1

Rewatch the three games and tell me again how rubbish lids is. Fools.

Despite the early goal, Lids sucked against North. No impact. I expected more because he is talented.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on December 11, 2015, 08:27:24 PM
They're all idiots.

It should be, what players have gained your respect in 2015.

I'd say Miles, Rance .... That's it
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 11, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
They're all idiots.

It should be, what players have gained your respect in 2015.

I'd say Miles, Rance .... That's it

+ Jack for me, because he stood up in the final.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Diocletian on December 11, 2015, 08:54:42 PM
+1

Rewatch the three games and tell me again how rubbish lids is. Fools.

Despite the early goal, Lids sucked against North. No impact. I expected more because he is talented.

Yep - was atrocious against North.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 11, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Pity this is only asking about players

Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: taztiger4 on December 11, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
Pity this is only asking about players

😀
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Diocletian on December 11, 2015, 09:23:38 PM
Yeah but who still had respect for Hardwick before the year started? Not anyone with any clue about football....
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 11, 2015, 09:32:35 PM
Ghaplin

For not retiring
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 11, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
Yeah but who still had respect for Hardwick before the year started? Not anyone with any clue about football....

Not talking about Hardwick
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on December 12, 2015, 12:27:09 AM
Ironic thread really  :snidegrin
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Yeahright on December 12, 2015, 02:34:10 AM
Yeah but who still had respect for Hardwick before the year started? Not anyone with any clue about football....

I can't wait until his sacked. You just know that Rhubarb guy or whatever his name was is going to come back just to have a whack at me and then disappear for 12 months just to do it all over again
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 12, 2015, 03:53:42 AM
Yeah but who still had respect for Hardwick before the year started? Not anyone with any clue about football....

I can't wait until his sacked. You just know that Rhubarb guy or whatever his name was is going to come back just to have a whack at me and then disappear for 12 months just to do it all over again

Rhunnadaih?
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Yeahright on December 12, 2015, 12:50:47 PM
Yeah something like that or Runnybumhole I always forget
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: mat073 on December 12, 2015, 11:39:55 PM
I respect anyone for being good enough to play footy at the highest level.

I was disappointed in a few senior players for not standing up when it counted last September .

We were good enough to beat North . Chance to play in a preliminary final went begging .
No we weren't stop  kidding yourself.
We have had more than a few senior players fail to stand up in september. every year  it is almost an epidemic come september.

Any team that was good enough to beat Freo ( at Subi) , Sydney ( SCG ) and Hawthorn should be expected to beat 8th .....don't think I'm kidding myself.
Some of our stars played so badly that game OER is still in meltdown 3 months later.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 13, 2015, 07:35:08 AM
Morris went further backwards. Lost a bit more respect.

I thought Batch had an improved year and so goes up in the respect dept.

Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: cub on December 13, 2015, 08:08:30 AM
KB
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on December 13, 2015, 08:55:37 AM
KB

X 2 selfish little prick
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Francois Jackson on December 13, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
whenever someone speaks out for ratings i lose respect for them.

If anyone thinks otherwise they are kidding themselves. Why i know this because the league is littered with incidents, and i dont remember KB ever calling for someones head for 12 months.

wonder why? Times must be tough at SEN hence the shake up
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Raoul Duke on December 13, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
Chaplin,dud.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Penelope on December 13, 2015, 04:26:37 PM
are you saying you had respect for him at the start of the season?
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Raoul Duke on December 14, 2015, 12:10:49 PM
are you saying you had respect for him at the start of the season?
There's always some amount of respect for those that don the yellow & black even if it is miniscule.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 14, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/NorthMelbourne/Files/Gifs/140915_gif_4.gif)
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 14, 2015, 03:46:05 PM
Turning circle of a mid sized boat
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Penelope on December 14, 2015, 03:51:32 PM
lol that cracks me up watching that gif
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 14, 2015, 03:57:04 PM
Kick kick kick kik.... Shut
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on December 14, 2015, 05:05:26 PM
Is that like the fend off of a five year girl
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Penelope on December 14, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
I wish i could put that gif in my sig
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on December 14, 2015, 10:02:01 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/NorthMelbourne/Files/Gifs/140915_gif_4.gif)
I nearly punched a hole in the seat in front of me when that happened. It took a lot of self restraint.....
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Raoul Duke on December 14, 2015, 10:11:26 PM
All he had to do was kick the stuffen thing.
 :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 15, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/NorthMelbourne/Files/Gifs/140915_gif_4.gif)
I nearly punched a hole in the seat in front of me when that happened. It took a lot of self restraint.....

Same here. It was at that stage I knew we would lose.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Penelope on December 15, 2015, 07:06:37 PM

but, seriously, now it cracks me up watching that.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: the claw on December 15, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
I have respect for all our players as players. . All talented  enough to get on an afl list even with their weaknesses.  Which is something me and 99.9% of the nuffies in here cant say.

Having said that as afl players is it really a question of respect ? How can you respect people you dont know? I would have thought  its more about how each of us rate players and how they play at the elite level. Respect has little to do with it.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on December 16, 2015, 05:54:11 AM

but, seriously, now it cracks me up watching that.

It just needs the Benny Hill music added
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Penelope on December 16, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
 :lol
true dat
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Mr Magic on December 16, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
Until they start performing in finals, I agree that all of our players have lowered their colours.

Are our so called elite players that good? The answer is no if you get it done in the rehearsals but cant perform on the big stage..
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 16, 2015, 10:39:47 AM
The hivemind is wacko.

Hodge nick Riewoldt ad Ablett would struggle in finals to carry our bottom six

More so I they'd played against a side that rested half it's best 22 the previous week
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 16, 2015, 11:32:19 AM
The hivemind is fooled.

Hodge nick Riewoldt ad Ablett would struggle in finals to carry our bottom six

More so I they'd played against a side that rested half it's best 22 the previous week

What? It has nothing to do with "carrying" it's about playing well individually which a number of our supposed guns failed to do.

Never mind Grigg ect, if Cotch and Lids had good games against North we would have won.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 16, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
Rubbish

Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 16, 2015, 01:03:12 PM
Rubbish

Your logic is flawed. In order to actually carry others you have to play well yourself.

In other words, some of our guns were'nt carrying poo because they themselves were being carried. Capiche?

Or is Cotchin getting 9 touches your idea of him carrying Grigg?
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 11:48:44 AM
The hivemind is fooled.

Hodge nick Riewoldt ad Ablett would struggle in finals to carry our bottom six

More so I they'd played against a side that rested half it's best 22 the previous week

What? It has nothing to do with "carrying" it's about playing well individually which a number of our supposed guns failed to do.

Never mind Grigg ect, if Cotch and Lids had good games against North we would have won.

Pls pray tell, how was is it

...we were still a shout with a few mins left - I te better players well all crap?

Te heroics of Newman grigg Chaplin?

Miles was good but he didn't make us hang in there by himself for 115m
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 17, 2015, 12:26:44 PM
The hivemind is fooled.

Hodge nick Riewoldt ad Ablett would struggle in finals to carry our bottom six

More so I they'd played against a side that rested half it's best 22 the previous week

What? It has nothing to do with "carrying" it's about playing well individually which a number of our supposed guns failed to do.

Never mind Grigg ect, if Cotch and Lids had good games against North we would have won.

Pls pray tell, how was is it

...we were still a shout with a few mins left - I te better players well all crap?

Te heroics of Newman grigg Chaplin?

Miles was good but he didn't make us hang in there by himself for 115m


Come again?
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 12:38:14 PM
Why is it you reckon, we could still realistically win the game with a couple mins left

If most the better players were as poor as you claim?

Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 01:02:44 PM
Amazing moves by the senior coach perhaps
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 17, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
I reckon we were shot by 3/4 time. Even halfway through the third. I reckon the mood at the ground was we were going to lose.

Destroyed out of the middle and they had a heap more scoring shots. They played the better football and had players who stood up.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on December 17, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
Amazing moves by the senior coach perhaps

Granted, but other factors too
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 02:10:13 PM
Doesn't matter what you reckon

We were down by 2 goal with 3 mins, or 3 goals with 4 mins - there was some hope of winning  with limited time left

Why is that? Cause grigg and Chappy were amazing ? Get me an answer big willy ASAP
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 03:17:59 PM
Rubbish

Your logic is flawed. In order to actually carry others you have to play well yourself.

In other words, some of our guns were'nt carrying poo because they themselves were being carried. Capiche?

Or is Cotchin getting 9 touches your idea of him carrying Grigg?

Depends how's you want to cut it

To MAKE the finals you need to win x amount

That's a lot of carrying. I bet you would have a sore back too

Can you explain who was carrying our guns outside of miles who is fairly handy himself.   The griggster with 16 odd touched @ 50% efficiently. ?
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Willy on December 17, 2015, 05:51:20 PM
Why is it you reckon, we could still realistically win the game with a couple mins left


Because at least one of our stars (Jack) and a few of our second tier players (Miles, McIntosh, Vickery) played well or at least respectably.

I'm not saying we don't have a problem with depth, btw, just that some of our stars have let us down on the big stage.

I am of the belief that if 2 or even 1 of Lids/Cotch/Ellis/Edwards had a good game we would have won.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: the claw on December 17, 2015, 06:05:56 PM
We were absolutely belted in that E/M.  Lucky not to lose by 10 or 12 goals which would have been a fairer reflection on the game.
They had the ball nearly 50 more times.
They won the tackle count, they won the clearance count,  they won the i/50 count and they smashed us in the c/p count. To top it off they generated 30 scoring shots to 16. All only stats but stats that confirm an awful lot to those who closely watched the game. They killed us no ifs or buts.  no thanks to us but more to do with them not taking all of their opportunities we somehow stayed in the game on the scoreboard only.
There are  blokes in the  so called best 22.  blokes who are bigger names than others  who have not only failed in that big game but regularly failed in big games.
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 10:20:36 PM
Why stop there? Lucky to not lose by 20 goals
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on December 17, 2015, 10:31:37 PM
I raise that to 25 goals
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Diocletian on December 17, 2015, 10:52:37 PM
North would've raised the double ton had they kicked straight....
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Stalin on December 17, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
Lucky to not lose by 32 goals
Title: Re: Richmond players you have lost respect for since the start of 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on December 17, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Lucky to not lose by 32 goals

Now that's just ridiculous Bents