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Title: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 01, 2014, 08:20:28 AM
Interesting topic is this
Coach and club are desperate ? Deluded ?
Clearly last night that Jackson and Hampson should not of played
You cannot play injured players end of story
You cannot hide them in goal square and they can be exposed as Jackson was before half time last night
Both he and Hampson limping clearly not right in warm ups
If you are going to play limping players .might as well play Vickery  ;)
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 01, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Its disgraceful & people are betting on AFL games. They should lose their license for not putting the best possible side on the field. If we ran a greyhound or horse like them we would get fined & suspended. Same should apply to footballers. RFC can get stuffed cause not 1 more cent will ever come out of any of our family pockets. Bye Bye Club
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: WA Tiger on June 01, 2014, 09:30:32 AM
How many times have I got to say this and when will people listen...

Hardwick is coaching for his career, just like Wallace, he will keep playing the Newmans, Griggs, Edwards, Foley Chaplin's and the injured "named" players like Jackson, Hampson, Deledio, Cotchin, Jack last year, the list goes on....WHY??....because he is too scared to lose games with the lesser named players and cop the flack for it if we don't get wins!!!..Miles, Batch, Helbig, Darrou (should of been elevated and played as soon as soon as Astbury went down), A.Edwards (leave him in) and there are a few others...

What don't people get about that????
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 01, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
Cannot believe that Hampson and Jackson played
As if the coaches knew they were injured and rolled the dice
Especially bad when you have Big O and Miles fully fit playing in the twos
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 01, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
Cannot believe that Hampson and Jackson played
As if the coaches knew they were injured and rolled the dice
Especially bad when you have Big O and Miles fully fit playing in the twos

Maric was clearly half up to pace
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 01, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 01, 2014, 10:49:00 AM
When Thomas was hit by the ball in the *****, he was lame for a good two minutes. Why wasn't he taken off immediately? We were effectively a man down during that time and the bummers kicked another easy goal.
Everybody at the ground saw it, so why couldn't our coaching staff?
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 01, 2014, 10:49:19 AM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

You would only play if you were wanting to get rid of the coach
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on June 01, 2014, 11:02:01 AM
Was it just me or did Maric look hampered?

Either he's lost a bit of mobility since last year or is playing through the pain.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 01, 2014, 11:04:23 AM
Was it just me or did Maric look hampered?

Either he's lost a bit of mobility since last year or is playing through the pain.
And couldn't jump.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 01, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Was it just me or did Maric look hampered?

Either he's lost a bit of mobility since last year or is playing through the pain.

he was not right from what l seen or he re-injured himself
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 01, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
Going into a game with injured players creates more injuries to fit players who try alot harder
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 01, 2014, 11:31:59 AM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

No there's nothing wrong with hamspud.
Except that he has no second efforts. He looks lame & sore because he's a useless footballer and its mindboggling he's playing AFL.

What's even worse is that we traded a second rounded for this potato.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tdy on June 01, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
I think this was the last roll of the dice by Hardwick for this year.  He went with his best team of experienced players because this was a game we could reasonably have a chance of winning.  The spray he gave the players isn't something he wouldn't have done unless he had nothing to lose.

Maric needs to be eased in to get match fitness.  If he is still injured its silly to play him, just sit him out.  The season is gone, everyone knows that now.

Jackson needs to be rested.  The media asked Jackson about his injury as he walked into Punt road this morning and about Hardwicks spray.  He said no comment about the spray and something or other about his injury.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 01, 2014, 11:34:37 AM
I think this was the last roll of the dice by Hardwick for this year.  He went with his best team of experienced players because this was a game we could reasonably have a chance of winning.  The spray he gave the players isn't something he wouldn't have done unless he had nothing to lose.

Maric needs to be eased in to get match fitness.  If he is still injured its silly to play him, just sit him out.  The season is gone, everyone knows that now.

Jackson needs to be rested.  The media asked Jackson about his injury as he walked into Punt road this morning and about Hardwicks spray.  He said no comment about the spray and something or other about his injury.
lol what spray ?
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 01, 2014, 11:40:57 AM
I think this was the last roll of the dice by Hardwick for this year.  He went with his best team of experienced players because this was a game we could reasonably have a chance of winning.  The spray he gave the players isn't something he wouldn't have done unless he had nothing to lose.

Maric needs to be eased in to get match fitness.  If he is still injured its silly to play him, just sit him out.  The season is gone, everyone knows that now.

Jackson needs to be rested.  The media asked Jackson about his injury as he walked into Punt road this morning and about Hardwicks spray.  He said no comment about the spray and something or other about his injury.
lol what spray ?
Dimma got excited watching Grigg and Chaplin and Hampson play in the same team at the same time again?
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 01, 2014, 11:44:49 AM
Hardwick plays people who are not fit

Cause the club cares not about the long term wlefare of the personal or club

But merely want to win to make final so short term goals are achieved

 
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
I think this was the last roll of the dice by Hardwick for this year.  He went with his best team of experienced players because this was a game we could reasonably have a chance of winning.  The spray he gave the players isn't something he wouldn't have done unless he had nothing to lose.

Maric needs to be eased in to get match fitness.  If he is still injured its silly to play him, just sit him out.  The season is gone, everyone knows that now.

Jackson needs to be rested.  The media asked Jackson about his injury as he walked into Punt road this morning and about Hardwicks spray.  He said no comment about the spray and something or other about his injury.
It's been the last roll of the dice every week for a month.  :lol
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 11:54:44 AM
Add Morris, Cotchin and Lids. Cotchin looks like a D-grade hack from the local league.  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 01, 2014, 11:58:45 AM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

Good question
It's because hard wick has them chanting the wrong mantra.
FHO
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 01, 2014, 12:02:47 PM
I I was a player and hardwick have me a spray, I'd spit on the pricks face and backhand him.

He's lost them.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 01, 2014, 12:27:05 PM
Old man Newman in last years final.

Add lids to list as well.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 01, 2014, 12:32:42 PM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

No there's nothing wrong with hamspud.
Except that he has no second efforts. He looks lame & sore because he's a useless footballer and its mindboggling he's playing AFL.

What's even worse is that we traded a second rounded for this potato.

Requires op at years end
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 01, 2014, 12:55:46 PM
Sean Pitura
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Diocletian on June 01, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
Hamspud's so useless people just assume he's injured.

Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Hamspud's so useless people just assume he's injured.
:lol I think he's been injured for a while. Coincidentally played his best game last week while injured.  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 01, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

No there's nothing wrong with hamspud.
Except that he has no second efforts. He looks lame & sore because he's a useless footballer and its mindboggling he's playing AFL.

What's even worse is that we traded a second rounded for this potato.

Requires op at years end
Who cares! 
Facts are he's a useless player.
Has played probably 1 or 2 "good games" per season in his career to date and those were normally against us.
It's beyond belief he's an AFL player.
Richmond aren't like Sydney, we will never be able to make ordinary players look good. Those types just end up on the big poo heap of ex-tiger excrement that has contributed to the stench at punt road.

Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Chuck17 on June 01, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

No there's nothing wrong with hamspud.
Except that he has no second efforts. He looks lame & sore because he's a useless footballer and its mindboggling he's playing AFL.

What's even worse is that we traded a second rounded for this potato.

You do love your potatoes Sharon don't you
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 01, 2014, 03:51:23 PM
I must say Hampson was clearly sore, no second efforts and looked lame.
What I want to know is this, why didn't he or Jackson pull out for the benefit of the team? Selfishness?

No there's nothing wrong with hamspud.
Except that he has no second efforts. He looks lame & sore because he's a useless footballer and its mindboggling he's playing AFL.

What's even worse is that we traded a second rounded for this potato.

You do love your potatoes Sharon don't you
I stuffing hate potatoes.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tony_montana on June 01, 2014, 03:56:16 PM
I think this was the last roll of the dice by Hardwick for this year.  He went with his best team of experienced players because this was a game we could reasonably have a chance of winning.  The spray he gave the players isn't something he wouldn't have done unless he had nothing to lose.

Maric needs to be eased in to get match fitness.  If he is still injured its silly to play him, just sit him out.  The season is gone, everyone knows that now.

Jackson needs to be rested.  The media asked Jackson about his injury as he walked into Punt road this morning and about Hardwicks spray.  He said no comment about the spray and something or other about his injury.

just a corkie  ::) bunch of stuffwits
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
This year is stuffed but we can still ruin players pre-seasons. The RFC way.  :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tony_montana on June 01, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
This year is stuffed but we can still ruin players pre-seasons. The RFC way.  :clapping :clapping

You know it, they'll be ready for preseason in January
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 04:13:24 PM
This year is stuffed but we can still ruin players pre-seasons. The RFC way.  :clapping :clapping

You know it, they'll be ready for preseason in January
If they're lucky.  :shh
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 01, 2014, 06:20:31 PM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2014, 06:24:37 PM
Dimma's and the RFC theme for the year.
It's all about him and the club saving face, saving money and in so many words .........


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYlyclh2gvLB11vo_3gwtuiHMJyGH09D3xGX9KaYps5wfcyAY1dQ
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?
Or the players for putting their hand up? Probably the medicos.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tigs2011 on June 01, 2014, 09:02:43 PM
Dimma's and the RFC theme for the year.
It's all about him and the club saving face, saving money and in so many words .........


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYlyclh2gvLB11vo_3gwtuiHMJyGH09D3xGX9KaYps5wfcyAY1dQ
:lol
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on June 01, 2014, 09:43:16 PM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?

Felt really sorry for Daniel Jackson that 5 min period before half time
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 01, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?

Felt really sorry for Daniel Jackson that 5 min period before half time

Dan needs to take some responsibility too, he told them he was right to go, clearly wasn't

I blame the medicos more than coaches, medicos are supposed to be the experts
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: tony_montana on June 01, 2014, 09:53:43 PM
Dan was selfish to play
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
Between the medicos, coaching staff, players and club culture we are just about the worst club in dealing with medical situations the way we should.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 01, 2014, 10:06:33 PM
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Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Phillip on June 01, 2014, 10:07:53 PM
Still remember them sending Richo back out there against that day :( :banghead
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2014, 10:09:33 PM
Ben Cousins :-\
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 01, 2014, 10:12:29 PM
Tuck had a broken scapula.....
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 01, 2014, 10:19:18 PM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?

Felt really sorry for Daniel Jackson that 5 min period before half time

Dan needs to take some responsibility too, he told them he was right to go, clearly wasn't

I blame the medicos more than coaches, medicos are supposed to be the experts
Unfortunately, not many medicos have played AFL.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 01, 2014, 10:31:16 PM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?

Felt really sorry for Daniel Jackson that 5 min period before half time

Dan needs to take some responsibility too, he told them he was right to go, clearly wasn't

I blame the medicos more than coaches, medicos are supposed to be the experts
Unfortunately, not many medicos have played AFL.

That's beside the point a good medico will stand by his conviction on not be influenced by coach or other club official.

We got away with Royce coming on in the 1973 Prelim and turning the game and we have probably got most medical decisions wrong since then.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 01, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
Dan is to blame here. He isn't a kid. He is a veteran who knows his body. Ultimately the medicos are going to ask him if he feels right if there is no physical sign of injury.  He could hardly move all week. It was his call too. Very selfish if he asked to play. Kept Miles out of the side and left us one man down from the start. Poor culture.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Diocletian on June 01, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
Another dumb football decision from a dumb footballer.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Phillip on June 01, 2014, 10:54:33 PM
Can't blame Jackson. He would have been told he was right. If he wasn't then it is the clubs fault.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 01, 2014, 11:43:53 PM
Can't blame Jackson. He would have been told he was right. If he wasn't then it is the clubs fault.
That's not how it works. Nobody knows their body like the person themselves. As I said, Dan is an experienced player and the medical team would have asked him for his feedback. Coach, you are wrong.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: yellowandback on June 02, 2014, 05:16:04 AM
Why pick on one person here?
Player, coach and medical staff got this one wrong.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 02, 2014, 06:46:37 AM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?

Felt really sorry for Daniel Jackson that 5 min period before half time

Dan needs to take some responsibility too, he told them he was right to go, clearly wasn't

I blame the medicos more than coaches, medicos are supposed to be the experts
Unfortunately, not many medicos have played AFL.

That's beside the point a good medico will stand by his conviction on not be influenced by coach or other club official.

We got away with Royce coming on in the 1973 Prelim and turning the game and we have probably got most medical decisions wrong since then.
I am not sticking up for the medicos.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 02, 2014, 07:02:40 AM
Who do you blame?

The coaches for playing them or the medicos for allowing the coaches to play them?

Felt really sorry for Daniel Jackson that 5 min period before half time

Dan needs to take some responsibility too, he told them he was right to go, clearly wasn't

I blame the medicos more than coaches, medicos are supposed to be the experts
Unfortunately, not many medicos have played AFL.

That's beside the point a good medico will stand by his conviction on not be influenced by coach or other club official.

We got away with Royce coming on in the 1973 Prelim and turning the game and we have probably got most medical decisions wrong since then.
I am not sticking up for the medicos.
Some have been there too long and are too comfortable. We need new blood there too.......
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: Smokey on June 02, 2014, 01:54:55 PM

Some have been there too long and are too comfortable. We need new blood there too.......

Are you prospecting YABB?    ;D
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 02, 2014, 02:30:02 PM

Some have been there too long and are too comfortable. We need new blood there too.......

Are you prospecting YABB?    ;D
No. Not quite my specialty. I also have good seats so I don't need the upgrade!  ;D
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 02, 2014, 02:35:17 PM
anyone knows a injury to the groin is several weeks or more. Jackson needs to man up. It cost the whole side.
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 02, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
anyone knows a injury to the groin is several weeks or more. Jackson needs to man up. It cost the whole side.
Just finished speaking to a mate who supports Essendon. He asked why we didn't sub off Jacko in the first quarter because he looked lame. When I told him he didn't train all week he was flabbergasted.  He asked why he was even selected!
Title: Re: Why play injured players ?
Post by: TigerMonk on June 02, 2014, 02:48:10 PM
anyone knows a injury to the groin is several weeks or more. Jackson needs to man up. It cost the whole side.
Just finished speaking to a mate who supports Essendon. He asked why we didn't sub off Jacko in the first quarter because he looked lame. When I told him he didn't train all week he was flabbergasted.  He asked why he was even selected!

some of my family are bomber supporters & they laughed in my face about it  :banghead