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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Tigeritis™©® on August 13, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
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Once again our team is tested in a finals type environment and once again it fails the test.
Even with the odds stacked in our favour our team doesn't deliver nor can't ever seem to reach the expectations heaped upon them.
Captain Cotchin: Terrible game, this bloke is no Selwood. We needed him to get us over the line and once again he wasn't prepared to show the rest of the panty wearers in our team what's really required to get the job done.
Riewoldt - not good enough. 1 goal 3. When was the last time this fellow won us the game off his own boot? At the other end Geelongs backman were kicking them when it counted.
Rance - worst game since he got his pants pulled down by Hogan. He looked lost and beaten. The difference between Rance and the other two is that he's won us games and just so happened he had a shocker in an important finals type game. These games and of coarse finals games need to be his best games.
First things first, if our leaders can't lead the way in finals we won't ever win any. Finals is the real deal and these blokes haven't achieved anything until they can deliver us victory in finals matches.
So far they've failed us and weren't prepared to fight and fight and win.
Lest we forget:
2013 Elimination Final.
CARLTON 2.3 | 6.5 | 12.6 | 18.8 (116)
RICHMOND 3.5 | 10.7 | 12.10 | 14.12 (96)
2014 Elimination Final.
Port Adelaide 8.1 | 14.5 | 19.8 | 20.12(132)
Richmond 1.1 | 3.2 | 6.5 | 11.9 (75)
2015 Elimination Final.
Richmond 2.3 | 9.3 | 12.3 | 14.4 (88)
North Melbourne 1.6 | 6.8 | 11.13 | 15.15 (105)
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I agree the whole 22 and coaching staff failed under finals type pressure yesterday that is the worring part coming into finals have we learned? or still crumble under pressure.
On to our leaders Cotch goes missing in action to much when the the heat is on simple as that far to often.Jack doesn't kick the goals he needs to no longer misses way to much and it has contributed to us looseing a few tight games that's his job.
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Did you even go to the game?
You carry on a like a stuffing pork chop every single time we lose a game and go missing when we win which means you have posted 7 weeks of 20 this year.
Adelaide were easily beaten there so are they stuffing sissys too?
I agree it was disappointing to lose what was a very winnable game. We didn't take our chances in front of goal, we let them get out too easily in that second quarter and were simply crucified by the umpires and stuffing Stevic.
We aren't a premiership team yet, no-one pinned us to even be a top 8 side before the season started - including you.
I also think our game plan was stifled on that narrow cesspit of a ground - we just didn't handle those dimensions well at all.
I would still back us to beat them at the 'G if we played them in September but we have to take our chances in front of goal.
All is not lost, you can't keep whining until we win the flag because by doing so, you are completely missing the point.
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Did you even go to the game?
You carry on a like a stuffing pork chop every single time we lose a game and go missing when we win which means you have posted 7 weeks of 20 this year.
Adelaide were easily beaten there so are they stuffing sissys too?
I agree it was disappointing to lose what was a very winnable game. We didn't take our chances in front of goal, we let them get out too easily in that second quarter and were simply crucified by the umpires and stuffing Stevic.
We aren't a premiership team yet, no-one pinned us to even be a top 8 side before the season started - including you.
I also think our game plan was stifled on that narrow cesspit of a ground - we just didn't handle those dimensions well at all.
I would still back us to beat them at the 'G if we played them in September but we have to take our chances in front of goal.
All is not lost, you can't keep whining until we win the flag because by doing so, you are completely missing the point.
Agree with you there 100% HRT.
I actually think the loss of Hawkins helped them as they became much more mobile too up forward.
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Captain Cotchin: Terrible game
I thought he had a good game, did a lot of hard inside work....
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Captain Cotchin: Terrible game
Bullshyte......get a clue and stop twisting facts to suit your agenda....
I thought he had a good game, did a lot of hard inside work
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Him & Martin dragged us back into the game in the third....but we can't let facts get in the way of people's agendas...
...and potting Rance for his first truly bad game in about 18 months....hilarious....
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I tend to agree we weren't that bad.Not playing our best and looseing away from cats by 14 pts.It's the wakeup call we may have needed before finals.I still agree tho our leaders go missing far to much when pressure is on.
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We have over achieved so anything from here is a bonus. We have youngsters in the side who will have poor games in between good games. The leaders can only do so much, it's a long season. I say strap yourselves in and enjoy the ride.
With some intelligent drafting and more games into the younger players we will be a better side next year.
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thought both kpds struggled Taylor had the better of Rance and thought Stanly was having a very good game until injury.
Gotta laugh at tiger supporters suggesting the loss of Hawkins helped geelong like what we would not give to have another 50 goal a yr kpf in our team or for that matter any fwd who can average more than two goals a game. but that would not help us at all either now would it.
Cotchin was decent and busted his guts all game yeah he didnt dominate but he sure put in and made a contribution. The same for Martin he had two or three hanging off him all game.
Riewoldt fmd what do people expect he is literally the only tall fwd we have and he worked damn hard all game. Let himself down by missing a few easy shots at goal.
If anything the lack of a decent second tall really hit home in this game.
People are looking up the wrong tree if they want to blame our better players for this loss.
the inability of others to step up when our better players are not allowed to dominate is what cost us and has always been what has cost us in big games.
The lack of a decent structure and a fwd line that has struggled to kick goals all yr again bites us on the arse.too many passengers and too many cameoes again bites us on the arse.
The trouble is there is little scope for us to put this right it is why so many people just dont rate us.It is all or nothing with what we have there will be no change trouble is all too often what we have has been shown to be not good enough when the whips really get cracking.
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Cotchin and martin went missing in the second quarter when the game was won and lost, which historically has been a big problem with Cotchin. Its your leaders like these two that you need to play 4 quarters of footy to win those sorts of games and reignite the rest of the side when the momentum naturally swings the other way.
This was a notable factor in the loss, along with a few players who shouldnt have been out there, less tackling pressure than usual, wrong option handballs, kicking for goal, the umpiring and the lack of a genuine second tall.
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This was a notable factor in the loss, along with a few players who shouldnt have been out there, less tackling pressure than usual, wrong option handballs, kicking for goal, the umpiring and the lack of a genuine second tall.
So all those things but still mainly Cotchin's fault.....cool story bro #insaneagenda
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Bacher Houli muffed that gettable shot in the second ....they then rushed it down the other end for a goal - 2 goal turnaround . Costly.
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Nah apprently he missed because of Cotchin's lack of leadership.....
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Bacher Houli muffed that gettable shot in the second ....they then rushed it down the other end for a goal - 2 goal turnaround . Costly.
Let's also blame Cotchin for not making sure Riewoldt got a free kick for a push in the back 2 minutes later or getting that absurd free kick paid to Menzel in the goal square reversed a few minutes later
And, of course, there's the laughable handball by Geelong over our goal line which was somehow missed as deliberate as well. Joel Bowden would've been proud of that one.
That's 3 goals in about 25 minutes of football.
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This was a notable factor in the loss, along with a few players who shouldnt have been out there, less tackling pressure than usual, wrong option handballs, kicking for goal, the umpiring and the lack of a genuine second tall.
So all those things but still mainly Cotchin's fault.....cool story bro #insaneagenda
It was a significant factor (in yet another game) along with the others.
#ninedisposalsvsnmfcneverforget #againstthewindneverforgive
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So I read many disagreeing with my opinion of our leaders this game.
This game was finals like. We we favourites to win and we were playing at a place against a team that has bullied us for more than 30 years.
We needed our leaders to stand up and they failed.
Am I wrong to state that Cotchin hasn't been able to win us an important game yet let alone a final? Show me a great captain and I'll show you one that leads his team to victory.
Rance has won us games but fact remains he failed yesterday and these finals type games a leader needs to stand and win. Riewoldt too failed today.
These blokes failed the team and couldn't produce the goods to inspire their teammates and give them the lift they need.
Reputations are won and lost in finals and these blokes haven't achieved diddly squat unless they can deliver a finals win. Yesterday was a test and they failed it. Simple.
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Can the thread title be changed to my team lost and I want to have a sookee lah lah?
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So I read many disagreeing with my opinion of our leaders this game.
This game was finals like. We we favourites to win and we were playing at a place against a team that has bullied us for more than 30 years.
We needed our leaders to stand up and they failed.
Am I wrong to state that Cotchin hasn't been able to win us an important game yet let alone a final? Show me a great captain and I'll show you one that leads his team to victory.
Rance has won us games but fact remains he failed yesterday and these finals type games a leader needs to stand and win. Riewoldt too failed today.
These blokes failed the team and couldn't produce the goods to inspire their teammates and give them the lift they need.
Reputations are won and lost in finals and these blokes haven't achieved diddly squat unless they can deliver a finals win. Yesterday was a test and they failed it. Simple.
What you say is true but it isn't as simple as you put it. We lost a bit at the selection table. We lost Caddy in the first quarter and that unbalanced us. We allowed their mids to run through without enough of our usual pressure and that mad them able to direct passes at will to Taylor. We weren't coached that well either but the players also didn't respond.
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The good news is Geelong will get those three back, see us in the finals and pants us.
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no point potting Houli, the fact we relied on him to be pushing up and taking marks in the forward line and taking shots on goal spells out the problem. He nailed one of them at least. If we could convert better, we might of won, Geelong looked absolutely shagged towards the end of the third, but we just cannot score no matter how many entries we get or how long we bog it down in our forward line.
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Captain MIA
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Did Prestia play ?
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Did Prestia play ?
Yeah he did and was one of our best
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So I read many disagreeing with my opinion of our leaders this game.
This game was finals like. We we favourites to win and we were playing at a place against a team that has bullied us for more than 30 years.
We needed our leaders to stand up and they failed.
Am I wrong to state that Cotchin hasn't been able to win us an important game yet let alone a final? Show me a great captain and I'll show you one that leads his team to victory.
Rance has won us games but fact remains he failed yesterday and these finals type games a leader needs to stand and win. Riewoldt too failed today.
These blokes failed the team and couldn't produce the goods to inspire their teammates and give them the lift they need.
Reputations are won and lost in finals and these blokes haven't achieved diddly squat unless they can deliver a finals win. Yesterday was a test and they failed it. Simple.
What you say is true but it isn't as simple as you put it. We lost a bit at the selection table. We lost Caddy in the first quarter and that unbalanced us. We allowed their mids to run through without enough of our usual pressure and that mad them able to direct passes at will to Taylor. We weren't coached that well either but the players also didn't respond.
I think your right about selection. Keeping Soldo in the team was a mistake. Nankervis was in effective in his role.
Your right about being out coached too. How they used Dusty was poor and why they didn't change Rances role was silly.
We had a chance to end the hoodoo and stand up against a perennial bully but they failed the test.
A test was presented on the eve of the finals to make a statement, to instill belief and to cement a top two finish and a home final, the three leaders failed in that test. No excuses are necessary.
Teams look at this game and all know how easy it is to make us crumble.
Our leaders have a responsibility to not allow that to happen and show the rest of them that no matter what they'll excel amidst extreme adversity and lead us to victory. Champions do this especially in finals. Unfortunately none of our leaders have been able to produce the goods when it really counts.
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I mentioned this in another thread I also agree we were poorly coached to,to slow to make moves and not reactive.
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Did Prestia play ?
Did you watch the game?
Plenty to bag before him
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Jacks goal kicking is a real worry. He's gotta nail those as a leader. Cost us more than once
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I was at the game and saw Cotchin bring all the players together at half time before they left the arena and gave them what for and they responded well in the 3rd with tackling and pressure.
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Did Prestia play ?
Did you watch the game?
Plenty to bag before him
I did.
It's just that I forgot after the first quarter.
Perhaps I went for a pee and missed it.
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Did Prestia play ?
Did you watch the game?
Plenty to bag before him
I did.
It's just that I forgot after the first quarter.
Perhaps I went for a pee and missed it.
:lol
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You may want to get that checked bro. Was it a starting or stopping issue? Maybe me or one of the other docs on here can give you some advice if you don't want to go to your GP
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The only one that needs to pull his finger out is our captain who has gone missing last few games and playing poorly .Can't shake a tag.Needs a big game this week leading into finals.I still maintain goes missing far to often when heat is on.