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Blowtorch on Damien Hardwick
By Kim Hagdorn
Sport News First
16 February 2012
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick only has to continue doing what he has for the past two years to probably be considered a success this season.
It would also most likely win the Tigers boss and extension to his contract.
The former Essendon and Port Adelaide hard nut is destined to be the first AFL coach in 2012 to suffer blowtorch assessment of his performance in endeavours to continue a drive up the premiership ladder that Hardwick promised when he took over a once proud club a little more than two years back.
Additional blast-furnace attention on Hardwick is that he is the only AFL coach in 2012 who is out of contract at the end of the season.
Any slightest early stumbling from the Tigers and there is no question that prospects of coaching great Mick Malthouse being touted as an eventual replacement for Hardwick will rage through AFL circles.
Malthouse is a 1980 Richmond premiership player and is out of coaching for the first time since 1984, after his controversial departure from Collingwood at the end of last season to make way for Pies legend Nathan Buckley.
Since losing the 1982 grand final, Richmond has played in just two finals campaigns bowing out in preliminary finals in 1995 and again in 2001.
The Tigers have also managed ninth-place finishes on six occasions since introduction of the top-eight finals system in 1994.
Hardwick’s determined effort to instil a ruthless brand of football into his developing troopers confronts a daunting start to the 2012 campaign.
The Tigers launch the season with a traditional showdown with premiership fancies Carlton and Collingwood, before taking on Melbourne, then reigning premiers Geelong in Geelong and then top-four candidates West Coast at Etihad.
Only Melbourne, which is in a similar mode to the Tigers in their rebuilding phase and another top eight candidate, shapes as a genuine winning chance to the Tigers in their opening five engagements.
Since taking over the struggling Tigers in time for his debut season in 2010 Hardwick orchestrated a gradual crawl up the AFL premiership ladder.
It was Hardwick’s mantra to rebuild Richmond back to a finals force when he took the top job from Jade Rawlings who had been Tigers caretaker coach after the unsavoury departure of Terry Wallace at the end of 2009.
Hardwick has finished 15th with six wins in 2010 and then 13th with an additional two successes last year.
Hardwick and his recruiting staff injected some much needed grunt and physical presence around the stoppages with attraction of former Adelaide big man Ivan Maric through aggressive trading late last year.
He potentially teams ideally with emerging on-ball super talents Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin to generate the crucial drive for a constant source of ball-supply to potential match-winning forward Jack Riewoldt.
The Tigers have enough talent to once again suggest they can be a genuine top-eight contender if everything goes well.
Their fixture draw presents constant hurdles to Hardwick and his Tigers realising that though.
Richmond’s season could be shot to pieces without some unexpected early wins.
After a prospective horror start, Hardwick and his Tigers also hit a bracket of dangerous outings from Rounds 7 through to 11 against Sydney, Essendon and Hawthorn at the MCG, St Kilda at Etihad and Fremantle back at the “G”.
It’s an engagement with new chums Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium that offers a respite before the Tigers take their mid-schedule bye break over Round 13.
It could be all over for the Tigers if they sit among the ladder’s bottom runs with a handful of wins.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/02/16/blowtorch-on-damien-hardwick/
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Kim Hagdorn is the Damien Barrett of the 2010's.
Couldnt play cricket to save himself and is four fifths of eff all as a sports journalist.
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And here I was thinking our mate torch was getting all intimate with dimma
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:lol
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This article is a wankfest
Really... These journos read these forums.. Cut and paste and voila here's an article.
We do it to ourselves I tell ya :-\
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This article is a wankfest
Really... These journos read these forums.. Cut and paste and boila here's an article.
Well it has come from "sports news first" who are about a accurate as any of my tee shots in golf and last time I player gold in Pambula I hit a Kangaroo ;D
We do it to ourselves I tell ya :-\
And we do bring alot of it on ourselves no doubt about it
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WP, the next article to come out of the press will read "richmond football club asks themselves, who else is better than Damien Hardwick?"
LOL if that happens :rollin
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I can't believe they pulled the old "since the 1982 grand final Richmond has only played finals twice" chestnut. Don't often hear that line :P
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Well it has come from "sports news first" who are about a accurate as any of my tee shots in golf and last time I player gold in Pambula I hit a Kangaroo ;D
:lol
That takes some skill
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A lot of cliques in that article and rubbish speculation regarding Malthouse but there is some merit to his assessment of our season. The first half of the year does look particularly nasty. For whatever reason we always seem to play the big clubs straight up. This is never a good lead in to the season - probably is financially though. The year looks tough - most teams appear better placed.
I'm looking forward to seeing how we perform against the best early on.
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This verbal mastubator, Kim (isn't that a girl's name?) Hagdorn, with this deceptively negative article about us is obviously another attempt by the anti-tiger press to ferment discontent and friction within our club.
He is obviously bereft of any sort of news to write about, so he is trying through this article to create some headlines at our expense.
He is just another loser journo who demands attention and will try anything to get it, including creating problems where none currently exist.
Tosser.
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Oh Dear Kim you really havent changed since my days of living in perth
reading your dribble is just wasting space. :lol
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OE can you stop posting the crap that this guy puts out! Its tantamount to trolling!
Reported :police: ;D
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The only problem I can see with the article is it should be Roos not Malthouse.
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No heat on Tiger coach Damien Hardwick
by: Michael Warner
From: Herald Sun
February 21, 2012
RICHMOND midfielder Trent Cotchin says Damien Hardwick is unfazed about the speculation surrounding his coaching contract.
"I think if you spoke to Dimma, there's not a lot of pressure on him," Cotchin said from the club's Mildura community camp yesterday.
"If we play to the way that he's instructing us to, along with the other assistant coaches, I don't think we'll have any issues with competing with the top teams.
"I think that's a matter (Hardwick's contract) that the club will handle. It's out of the players' hands, and he's doing the best he can and we're trying to follow him the best we can."
Hardwick's three-year coaching deal expires at season's end. President Gary March said this month a process was in place to review his contract situation.
Cotchin said the Tigers showed they were on the right track in Friday's NAB Cup matches against Hawthorn and North Melbourne.
"We were really excited about some of the things we were able to do," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/no-heat-on-tiger-coach-damien-hardwick/story-e6frf9jf-1226276397702
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I think it was On the Couch tonight, the stooges were showing footage of Dimma in the closing moments of both of our Nob Cup games and were saying crap like "that's a coach with his career in the balance" or something like that. It's only opposition supporters and journos who are saying stuff about Dimma. I remember the end of last year my boss saying junk like "no finals next year for you lot and Dimma will be under the pump." :huh is my reaction. Today was good. Since my boss is a bumbling bummer I was just giving him crap all day, asking him what round will he turn on Hird.
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No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year. A few early indications that they will which is great.
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No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year.
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Seems a lot think this way; not quite sure why
Results alone aren't going to determine Dimma's fate
No a doubt in my mind he will get an extension not a case of "if" but when ;D
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how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.
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I think that they will sign him up before the season starts. A 2 year extension seems reasonable as a longer term will give Dimma the room for complacency and will have a Wallet like destructive effect. With Lids out of contract they wont take the risk of waiting till the end of the year.
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how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.
Coach, I reckon he will get a 2 year extension and I think they will do it by mid season (say July). Just my gut feel on it
As I said wins aren't going to be the only determining factor
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I can just imagine the journo's on Friday night after NAB 1.
Putting the finishing touches to their 'Hardwick position untenable' stories after the inevitable loss to the Dawks.
Instead they had to crucify Conca.
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No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year.
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Seems a lot think this way; not quite sure why
Results alone aren't going to determine Dimma's fate
No a doubt in my mind he will get an extension not a case of "if" but when ;D
You're right, results alone won't seal his fate but no doubt it will play a part.
If you don't think so, you're being a little deluded.
The club goes backwards this year (in more ways than one) and he's no guarantees.
Club is rightly taking a wait and see approach to things.
No rush.
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You're right, results alone won't seal his fate but no doubt it will play a part.
If you don't think so, you're being a little deluded.
The club goes backwards this year (in more ways than one) and he's no guarantees.
Club is rightly taking a wait and see approach to things.
No rush.
Not deluded at all in any form
Just think he will get a contract extension depsite the results. They will play a part but not as big as what the media is making out
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Just think he will get a contract extension depsite the results.
So if the wheels fall off and we've only had one or two wins at the bye they'll still be re-signing him regardless?
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Just think he will get a contract extension depsite the results.
So if the wheels fall off and we've only had one or two wins at the bye they'll still be re-signing him regardless?
My gut feel is it will be done before the BYE.
And if we are only 2 wins by the Bye but the losses have only been by a coupleo f goals I reckon that will be enough
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My gut feel is it will be done before the BYE.
And if we are only 2 wins by the Bye but the losses have only been by a coupleo f goals I reckon that will be enough
Generous.
What if we have been tuned by 80-100 points in 4 games?
I don't think that will in anyway happen but if it does I would be disappointed if we didn't at least make him reapply for his job.
Personally don't think the wheels will fall off so think Dimma will be re-signed but nothing is certain in football.
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No doubt Hardwick needs results to go his way this year.
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Seems a lot think this way; not quite sure why
Results alone aren't going to determine Dimma's fate
No a doubt in my mind he will get an extension not a case of "if" but when ;D
I agree William.
With the list he's had to work with and looking at them now going toe to toe with a flag favourite the other night,he is the man for the job.
I hope they sign him up real soon.
A double signing to be announced Family Day.
Dimma and Lids!!
:pray
The club would get another 10k members!
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Generous.
What if we have been tuned by 80-100 points in 4 games?
I don't think that will in anyway happen but if it does I would be disappointed if we didn't at least make him reapply for his job.
Personally don't think the wheels will fall off so think Dimma will be re-signed but nothing is certain in football.
I suppose for me it also comes down to where i think our list is at right now. I still think we have a long way to go with another big clean out due at the end of the season.
He's shown he's prepared to do that and that's just one of the things I reckon that falls outside of results that will be taken into consideration (rightly or wrongly)
As I said my gut feel is he will be re-signed sooner rather than later. Never at any point said I agree with it just that I reckon that's what will happen ;D
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Generous.
What if we have been tuned by 80-100 points in 4 games?
I don't think that will in anyway happen but if it does I would be disappointed if we didn't at least make him reapply for his job.
Personally don't think the wheels will fall off so think Dimma will be re-signed but nothing is certain in football.
I suppose for me it also comes down to where i think our list is at right now. I still think we have a long way to go with another big clean out due at the end of the season.
He's shown he's prepared to do that and that's just one of the things I reckon that falls outside of results that will be taken into consideration (rightly or wrongly)
Personally I think our list is better than you're crediting it for this season and we're in the mix with a number of teams to even possibly etch out a finals birth.
Poor results would not be satisfactory in 2012. A poor result for me ladder wise would be a bottom 5 finish.
Dimma has to show that the players are grasping the game plan and developing individually and as a team.
If we do that the results will be consequential. If not they will also be consequential.
The list rebuild will continue regardless of who the coach is but ultimately this season wins matter more for Dimma than they have the past two seasons.
I reiterate that I am a Hardwick fan but this season he is more accountable for Richmond's performances than the last two. In my opinion of course.
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Personally I think our list is better than you're crediting it for this season and we're in the mix with a number of teams to even possibly etch out a finals birth.
Poor results would not be satisfactory in 2012. A poor result for me ladder wise would be a bottom 5 finish.
Agree we are in the mix
I think we are a show for the finals if and only if everything goes our way.
But I reckon (and have said this numerous times) a more likely scenario is 9th to 11th (10-12 wins)
I just reckon depth wise we are one or two injuries away (to top line players) from things to go pear shaped.
I think our list has improved over the last couple of years but I still the the gap between our top 25 and the bottom dozen on our list as still being huge and we are relying on kids some of which are only coming into their 2nd-3rd seasons to carry us.
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how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.
Coach, I reckon he will get a 2 year extension and I think they will do it by mid season (say July). Just my gut feel on it
As I said wins aren't going to be the only determining factor
I would actually hate wins to be the determining factor WP. I think his extension needs to be looked at very strongly in the light of individual and team development, regardless of wins, and on that score I think he is a certainty to get another 2 years sooner rather than later.
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how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.
Coach, I reckon he will get a 2 year extension and I think they will do it by mid season (say July). Just my gut feel on it
As I said wins aren't going to be the only determining factor
I would actually hate wins to be the determining factor WP. I think his extension needs to be looked at very strongly in the light of individual and team development, regardless of wins, and on that score I think he is a certainty to get another 2 years sooner rather than later.
I agree. I think though the win/loss column will only apply to the journos and stuff wits who want to fling poo at us. Dimma said numerous times at the end of last season that the goals will be being more competitive against the top sides (I read this as not getting flogged), improving our bad games and being able to put away sides we 'should' be beating. We have to be certainly in the mix for the bottom end of the top 8 this year. I honestly think with everything going our way, as in injuries and early winning teams falling away in the later part of the season, we can finish as high as 6th. Carlton showed you can make it to September with crap KPPs and Bummers proved that with a bit of luck from other team placings you can scrape in with no midfield at all and a list full of average players. Having said that, I think another 9th is a high possibility lol. Even a 10th or 11th, as long as we were competitive and IMO Dimma won't lose any sleep. Like WP, I think he'll be resigned before the bye rounds anyway.
In the worst case scenario and we're only 1 or 2 wins by then, I would still personally like to keep Dimma anyway. A bottom 4-6 this year would be the same result under a new rookie coach for the next 2 years anyway. In a lot of ways this is Dimma's first year at properly coaching considering how much of the list he has turned over and finally getting some of his own men in. Ross Smith's influence was so obvious already on Friday already. Can't wait to see what another 12 months of him teaching our team defensive skills will do.
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how many years will he get, WP? Personally I'll be slightly annoyed if he gets two years if we don't win at least 10 games.
Coach, I reckon he will get a 2 year extension and I think they will do it by mid season (say July). Just my gut feel on it
As I said wins aren't going to be the only determining factor
I would actually hate wins to be the determining factor WP. I think his extension needs to be looked at very strongly in the light of individual and team development, regardless of wins, and on that score I think he is a certainty to get another 2 years sooner rather than later.
Exactly my take smokey :thumbsup
I agree. I think though the win/loss column will only apply to the journos and stuff wits who want to fling poo at us. Dimma said numerous times at the end of last season that the goals will be being more competitive against the top sides (I read this as not getting flogged), improving our bad games and being able to put away sides we 'should' be beating. We have to be certainly in the mix for the bottom end of the top 8 this year. I honestly think with everything going our way, as in injuries and early winning teams falling away in the later part of the season, we can finish as high as 6th. Carlton showed you can make it to September with crap KPPs and Bummers proved that with a bit of luck from other team placings you can scrape in with no midfield at all and a list full of average players. Having said that, I think another 9th is a high possibility lol. Even a 10th or 11th, as long as we were competitive and IMO Dimma won't lose any sleep. Like WP, I think he'll be resigned before the bye rounds anyway.
In the worst case scenario and we're only 1 or 2 wins by then, I would still personally like to keep Dimma anyway. A bottom 4-6 this year would be the same result under a new rookie coach for the next 2 years anyway. In a lot of ways this is Dimma's first year at properly coaching considering how much of the list he has turned over and finally getting some of his own men in. Ross Smith's influence was so obvious already on Friday already. Can't wait to see what another 12 months of him teaching our team defensive skills will do.
Ditto dwaino - agree
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I just reckon depth wise we are one or two injuries away (to top line players) from things to go pear shaped.
Key injuries to say a Cotchin, Riewoldt, Rance or Martin (touch wood) would be mitigating factors for sure.
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We haven't improved if we aren't pushing for finals. It would be a joke if we don't win 10 games. Where is WAT??
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Hardwick's contract not an issue for Tigers
Matt Murnane, Alice Springs
February 22, 2012
THE issue of Damien Hardwick's contract is no issue for the Richmond players.
They love their coach and will play for him this season fully aware that their performance could affect Hardwick's future at the club in 2013 and beyond.
But 2012 is about much more than whether Hardwick gets a contract extension when his agreement expires at the end of this season.
It was reported in The Age recently that Hardwick is likely to earn a contract extension, but the length of any new deal remains unclear.
"We should do it more for ourselves rather than him," Tigers defender Alex Rance said yesterday at the club's community camp in Alice Springs.
"There are people around the club like [president] Brendon Gale, who has invested a lot of his time and energy into the club, all the coaching staff, which 'Dimma' [Hardwick] is one of, but also all the supporters," he said.
"It's definitely time to play finals. But in terms of his fate being in our hands, we're not just playing for him, we've got a lot more to play for."
Rance said the "it's not about me" directive had come from Hardwick himself.
"He's drilled that into us. He keeps a pretty cool head about those kinds of things and he would never put any more pressure on us than what we should be putting on ourselves.''
Taking captain Chris Newman to his first finals series is also a motivating factor for the players.
The 29-year-old has played the most games (192) of any current player without a finals appearance, heading a top five that also includes teammates Brett Deledio (150), Shane Tuck (140) and Nathan Foley (110).
Newman will move to third on the all-time list if he plays 12 games or more this year, but will not threaten the top two - St Kilda pair Trevor Barker (230) and Geoff Cunningham (224) - unless the Tigers miss the finals again.
The club last played finals in 2001.
"It would be fantastic to do it for him [Newman] because he has been such a driving force for all our core values and beliefs," Rance said.
But perhaps more than anything, Rance said this year was about the supporters, the ones who had stood by the club despite enduring a decade without finals.
He also said the players were sick of watching opposition teams playing in September, but not as much as Tiger fans would be.
"They have been hanging out for a long time,'' he said. ''My hat goes off to them that they've been so loyal for so long, because I can imagine it would have been a pretty frustrating run.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hardwicks-contract-not-an-issue-for-tigers-20120221-1tltf.html#ixzz1n1pwXdbD
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We haven't improved if we aren't pushing for finals. It would be a joke if we don't win 10 games. Where is WAT??
NO EXCUSES.... :lol
Please see Rances comments in the want to beat beat Carscum RD1......
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I just reckon depth wise we are one or two injuries away (to top line players) from things to go pear shaped.
Key injuries to say a Cotchin, Riewoldt, Rance or Martin (touch wood) would be mitigating factors for sure.
All at once..yes...one of them...NO EXCUSES!!!!!!
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The club last played finals in 2001.
Just screams.
Finals has to be the goal. :pray
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When did gale become president?
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When did gale become president?
maybe theres gonna be a coup today or the journo is well you know - just being a journo. :lol
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:lol
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:lol
Why you laughin Alberts maybe Benny has called up Colonel Rambuka and it'll be all on in the afternoon ;D
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Dimma has turned over 25 odd players and will more than likely turn over at least another 6-8 at the end of the year. He has inherited a list in such a sorry state that he got the job knowing that he was on a hiding to nothing. I know its finals or bust for some but improvement in the list and matches into the kids which is what is required anyway would not be a disaster even if we don't make the eight which I would love us to do and hope that we have a season where some of our players development is fast tracked.
Regardless I would think that he will be signed up sooner rather than later. He has put in the hard yards with the rebuilding of the player list and deserves to see the fruits of his labours. If anything he has brought a genuine on field optimism whether for this season or the subsequent ones and for that he deserves to be rewarded. :thumbsup
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Clarkson on "On the Couch" rated Dimma and reckons he can see some future and stability at the Tigers for the first time in yonks. He encouraged the club to extend Dimma's contract already so we don't have the same press hovering our club like it did his last season.
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AFL's Tigers must sew up coach: Clarkson
Sam Lienert
AAP
February 28, 2012
Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson says Richmond risk having the contract status of his Tigers counterpart Damien Hardwick becoming a distraction if they don't quickly re-sign him.
Hardwick, an assistant to Clarkson when the Hawks won their most recent AFL premiership, in 2008, is entering the final season of a three-year deal to coach the Tigers.
The Richmond coach guided the club to 15th in his first season and 12th last year.
Tigers president Gary March said recently the club was pleased with what Hardwick has done over his first two years, but declined to say when they will consider extending his contract.
But Clarkson said with Richmond finally appearing stable at board and administrative level, as well as their football department, they should act quickly to shore up Hardwick's future.
"They'll be crazy if they don't reappoint him and reappoint him soon," Clarkson told Fox Footy on Monday night.
"For the first time, I feel, Richmond have got some stability in their club.
"Just make the appointment."
Clarkson, who was made to wait before being handed a new three-year deal by Hawthorn late last season, said he knew first-hand the distraction such a delay could cause.
"The uneasiness we went through last year as a footy club, it does disturb the way you go about your business," he said.
"The sooner those sort of things can happen (the better).
http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/13031744/afls-tigers-sew-coach-clarkson/
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I agree.
Back the bloke and give him 2 years.
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I reckon the Hawks were mad not to sign Clarkson last season as he was a proven premiership coach and was still leading them into finals.
Dimma is not proven but he is Clarko's mate and Richmond are Alistair's counterpart. ;)
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Tail doesnt wag the dog clarko.
If we are as stable as you say, club and coach should be clear with each other and therefore not distracted.
I like dimma but we need to wait until at least the half way point to asess our progress
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Sign up Hardwick and get Deledio on the books too...... ;D
Hardwick has put the best model in place for many years, must give him the chance, I would give him the two years so he can concentrate on coaching.
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The fact that Clarkson has mentioned this, tells me immeadiatley that the issue is of concern to Hardwick. We all know that they are close friends and DO talk. However, Clarkson is talking out of turn and in fact will create a measure of instability. Club needs to hold it's ground and continue it's process. Dimma I am sure will get another contract.
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Hardwick has put the best model in place for many years, must give him the chance, I would give him the two years so he can concentrate on coaching.
Unless of course we don't make finals .... NO EXCUSES :rollin
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We need to get rid of this clown and get in a real match day coach. It's time to call Rohde.
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Clarkson is talking out of turn and in fact will create a measure of instability.
Certainly is talking out of turn. None of his bloody business.
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I was of the opinion that they should wait till mid season to review.
If both parties were mature and prepared to wait, then they could ignore the outside world.
Since then, a plethora of players from RFC have come out stating theat we are aiming for finals (no problem with this) and players then coming out stating finishing places ie: 6-8th
CEO coming out saying we are playing to make finals... Etc etc
I think we are putting the pressure on this situation ourselves
I'm sure they are already in talks, so let's see what unfolds...
There is a phone poll on SEN this morning as to whether we should resign him prior to the season proper..
I'm intrested in what the listeners will poll, not that it has a bearing on the situation of course
... 73% of listeners who polled said they should sign him soon..
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I've heard a couple of times now that the opposition are saying we're stable and changing.
That's a good thing.
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I think he should be signed up for another 2 years now before the season proper.
I was of the mindset that the club should wait to see how the season pans out because if it is a disaster then a contract extension could come back to haunt the club. When I thought about it further, I don't believe changing coaches now would be a good thing regardless.
Dimma has done what Wallace said he would do - a total rebuild. We haven't topped up, we haven't traded away early picks and we haven't gifted senior players a spot in the team over developing youngsters. In fact Dimma has done everything asked of him - pumping games into the recruits, changing the culture of the playing group and developing each individual player. He has surrounded himself in educators, teachers, enthusiastic operators. These coaches getting average players to begin to fulfill their potential including Jack, Vickery, Martin, Rance, Grimes, King, Nahas, Houli etc etc Why would we wish to throw this all out the window?
I believe he has proved he is on the right track. In terms of developing players, a strong culture and a game plan they can play too successfully - Dimma has runs on the board. He has set the future up, he should be given another two years to see if he can fulfill it. He hasn't cut any corners, hasn't played older or injured players to win a few extra games. He has done all the hard yards. What would a new coach do but set back the process yet again. After multiple rebuilds this is the last thing we need.
Regardless of what happens this year the club deserves an opportunity to see if what Dimma has built can begin to work. This is the year when we should start to see improvement but if it doesn't eventuate due to circumstance then we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. We shouldn't be reactionary. We still have the youngest list after the two new teams and consistency is always the Holy Grail. If finals eludes us this year it will come the year after.
I don't want to start again when everything says we are finally on the right track. Give him the extention.
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LOL @ Hardwick not being here meaning would be 'starting again'. Fair dinkum, chucking on two years when we have won about 12 games in two years. I know he's going to get an extension but I would at least hope they'd do it during the season and not before.
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LOL @ Hardwick not being here meaning would be 'starting again'. Fair dinkum, chucking on two years when we have won about 12 games in two years. I know he's going to get an extension but I would at least hope they'd do it during the season and not before.
So you think a new coach would just adopt all the same staff, game plan and practises Dimma has do you? Everything there is a new person brought into an organisation, particularly if they are the leader, they make changes. Having a new coach would mean staff would move on, the game plan would change, players would change.
In two years we may have won 'about 12 games' but you're being a tad short sighted here. Dimma gutted the team, recruited heavily and then played the infants to get games into them under the instructions of the club. These last two years have been exclusively about development. You can't use the win/loss margin as a negative under these circumstances.
So tell me what is the difference between extending the contract now or half way through the year?
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"These coaches getting average players to begin to fulfill their potential including Jack, Vickery, Martin, Rance, Grimes, King, Nahas, Houli etc etc Why would we wish to throw this all out the window?"
If Dimma was gone then we would throw it out the window? Did Fremantle 'start again' by getting in one of the best coaches in the league? WTF is so special about Dimma's game plan or his staff? You're talking like not extending his contract would put us back to the bottom of the ladder for 3 years. If you offered me Mick Malthouse right now, I would take him. He's the best.
The difference between extending now and during the season is the fact we've got a group of guys who could play finals this year. If we're playing poorly then I would be pretty disappointed if Dimma got another two years. We're capable of doing something good this year. And no, I am not saying sack him if we don't play finals. I'm saying don't sign him for another two years unless the signs are bloody good. Hardwick has done a decent job. He's not Sir Alex Ferguson :banghead
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Agree Davey. The shape of the list is more important than the coach.
Dimma's game plan hasn't thrilled me yet but to be fair he hasn't had the cattle.
Now he does and I want to see things really start to gel this season.
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"These coaches getting average players to begin to fulfill their potential including Jack, Vickery, Martin, Rance, Grimes, King, Nahas, Houli etc etc Why would we wish to throw this all out the window?"
If Dimma was gone then we would throw it out the window? Did Fremantle 'start again' by getting in one of the best coaches in the league?
Yes, in a way they did. They are now trying to learn a completely new game plan and mind set. One of the best coaches in the league? - I would argue he is one of the most negative, dour coaches around who was gifted a good list. The Saints list may be aging now and the game left behind some of it's past 'stars' but in the period he had them he should have done much better.
WTF is so special about Dimma's game plan or his staff?
Dimma's game plan hasn't had an opportunity to really shine yet. Mainly because he hasn't had the personale to do it but this year we should start to see if show. The direct, long, clean and quick movement will cause headaches to most teams now we have more and more better ball users in the side.
What's so special about his staff? Well it's Dimma and his team of coaches/staff who have got the list to where it is. We finally have players in our team that are stepping up. When was the last time we had so many young players beginning to realise their potential rather than us just hoping they will? You have to give credit where credit is due here.
You're talking like not extending his contract would put us back to the bottom of the ladder for 3 years. If you offered me Mick Malthouse right now, I would take him. He's the best.
When did I say we would be on the bottom of the ladder for the next three years. What I said was that we would have to go through a reeducation process again. This could turn out to be good but it could equally undo the confidence of many of our young players. Why risk that when the signs are clear that we are finally on the right track?
The difference between extending now and during the season is the fact we've got a group of guys who could play finals this year. If we're playing poorly then I would be pretty disappointed if Dimma got another two years. We're capable of doing something good this year. And no, I am not saying sack him if we don't play finals. I'm saying don't sign him for another two years unless the signs are bloody good. Hardwick has done a decent job. He's not Sir Alex Ferguson :banghead
So what constitutes 'the signs are bloody good'?.
We may just miss out on the finals this year due to our draw/injuries/circumstances. The year after Bomber took Geelong to their first GF his side had a poor year and he was almost sacked. What a missed opportunity for the Cats that would have been! The signs are clear, Dimma is the right man for the job and has done everything asked of his by the club.
He should be resigned before the media speculation begins and this can cause any hint of disruption to the club. If it is enviable, as it appears to be, just draw up the contract now!
The health of the list has everything to do with how Dimma has developed the players. The biggest difference between ourselves and other teams such as Collingwood was always their ability to get the best out of their players. TW was a heralded tactician and motivator that was innovative on gameday but failed miserably at Richmond. With an established list of developed players, he was able to get within a kick of the Grandfinal with the dogs and play regular finals football. Yet trying to begin again with a new recruits, even high draft picks, he not only fell away but so did most of these players. Why - because he rarely spent any time with them, Postie said he hadn't every really spoken to him, and certainly didn't develop them in any way or hire coaches to teach them either. Some of this has to do with the money at his disposal but a lot had to do with the way he coached too.
When was the last time we had such a stable club from the CEO down? When we've had a coach and board marching to the same beat, following the same plan?
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Hardwick has put the best model in place for many years, must give him the chance, I would give him the two years so he can concentrate on coaching.
Unless of course we don't make finals .... NO EXCUSES :rollin
Will still back Hardwick in......the players will have a bit of the NO EXCUSES to answer to though.. ;D
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IMHO
no reason to sign him up early,
Must make finals or he should be shown the door
Especially with mick malthouse ready willing and able
Just my opinion ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Agree Davey. The shape of the list is more important than the coach.
Dimma's game plan hasn't thrilled me yet but to be fair he hasn't had the cattle.
Now he does and I want to see things really start to gel this season.
I would suggest that the state of the list, to a large degree, has a lot to do with the coach - they are not mutually exclusive.
I agree with what you say about the gameplan though - this year will start to give us a better picture.
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IMHO
no reason to sign him up early,
Must make finals or he should be shown the door
Especially with mick malthouse ready willing and able
Just my opinion ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Hasn't that been the masterplan set up my Mick and the club all along..... :thumbsup
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Do you have to write a stuffing essay with every reply? will have a crack at replying later tonight. don't have the time or finger stamina at the minute ;D
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Do you have to write a stuffing essay with every reply? will have a crack at replying later tonight. don't have the time or finger stamina at the minute ;D
Just replying to your comments. I just try and do it with rational opinions and facts if I can. That's all ;)
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That's what everyone here does. We can just sum up our thoughts without writing 2000 word posts.
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That's what everyone here does. We can just sum up our thoughts without writing 2000 word posts.
I'm sorry if I can string a few words together but let's try and not get personal hey mate. Try and stick to the argument if that's OK. :cheers
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You just got personal, guy.
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You just got personal, guy.
Sorry. Now lets get back to the thread topic. :)
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give him a 5 year extension. ::)
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give him a 5 year extension. ::)
Probably a little too much but I like your thinking Jack :thumbsup
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Clarkson is talking out of turn and in fact will create a measure of instability.
Certainly is talking out of turn. None of his bloody business.
Absolutely agree
See how the season pans out and let him worry about his own club
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Richmond unfazed by Alastair Clarkson's plea to re-sign Damien Hardwick
by: Mark Robinson
From:Herald Sun
February 29, 2012
RICHMOND will ignore Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson's plea to re-sign coach Damien Hardwick.
Clarkson, a close friend of Hardwick, on Monday urged the Tigers to re-sign Hardwick or risk the issue becoming a distraction through the season.
"They'll be crazy if they don't reappoint him and reappoint him soon," Clarkson told Fox Footy's On The Couch.
But Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said the club would continue its process.
"They are good friends professionally and personally, good loyal mates, so I can understand why 'Clarko' might make those comments," Gale said.
"But it won't have any bearing on us whatsoever.
"People will have opinions, but we won't be supplying a running commentary on Damien ... and we will make an announcement at a time of our choosing."
Gale said comments such as Clarkson's did not put pressure on the club's process.
"I respect people's opinion in the game, but they have no bearing," Gale said.
"And we know our members and supporters will have opinions, and clearly I understand why 'Clarko' has an opinion, but we have a process in place."
Clarkson had to wait until near the end of last season before signing a three-year deal and acknowledged the conjecture was a distraction.
"The uneasiness we went through last year as a footy club ... it does disturb the way you go about your business," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-unfazed-by-alastair-clarksons-plea-to-re-sign-damien-hardwick/story-e6frf9jf-1226284387062
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Tigers won't rush Hardwick contract
By Callum Twomey
6:54 PM Tue 28 Feb, 2012
RICHMOND chief executive Brendon Gale is refusing to discuss the future of coach Damien Hardwick - and his contract - but says the club will not be distracted by external debate.
Hardwick's three-year deal at Punt Road expires at the end of 2012 and on Monday night Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson encouraged Richmond to reappoint Hardwick as soon as possible to avoid the "uneasiness" of an out-of-contract coach.
But Gale said the Tigers were in no rush to make a decision, and wouldn't be sidetracked by discussion from outside the club.
"We're not going to provide a running commentary into Damien's appointment," Gale told radio station 3AW.
"We'll make an announcement when we're ready. We're a professional organisation and we'll conduct this process accordingly.
"I can understand the context of those comments (by Clarkson). He's a good, loyal friend of Damien's both professionally and personally, and you probably expect that sort of comment from someone like Al.
"But it won't have a bearing on our process going forward. We'll confirm our position when we're ready and it won't distract us."
Gale said he was pleased with the improvement at Richmond since Hardwick took the reins at the start of 2010, and was confident in the club's direction.
"We're encouraged by the progress we've made over two years with Damien, we've certainly improved as a club under his reign," Gale said.
"Damien's got some terrific attributes."
Gale was also asked about the club's plan to play a pre-season game in India next year and whether that was a step towards playing games overseas for premiership points.
"I don't know about that. It depends where and when, of course," he said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/129730/default.aspx
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Tigers tight-lipped on coach
Caroline Wilson
The Age
February 29, 2012
RICHMOND chief executive Brendon Gale refused to shed any further light on Damien Hardwick's future last night, insisting the club would not be reacting to outside pressure to re-sign the coach.
And Mick Malthouse put the Tigers in the spotlight, declaring Hardwick's team should play finals in 2012 and would be expected to win at least 11½ games.
Both Gale and Malthouse were speaking on 3AW but neither would entertain speculation as to whether Richmond would look at luring Malthouse out of retirement should Hardwick not remain at the club.
Responding to Alastair Clarkson's warning that stalling on Hardwick's contract could destabilise the Tigers, Gale said: ''They're good, loyal comments.
''You'd expect him [Clarkson] to make those comments. But we'll organise that and confirm that when we're good and ready.
''We certainly won't be responding to outside agendas.''
Clarkson said on Fox Footy on Monday night that Richmond should ''just make the appointment'' and re-sign Hardwick. Malthouse last night questioned the Hawthorn coach's method of publicly pushing up for his former colleague.
''I'm a coaches' person,'' said Malthouse. ''Al Clarkson is a coaches' person … He's only gone in to bat for another coach but it's the way you put it.''
When asked whether the Tigers would investigate Malthouse's availability should the Hardwick deal fail to eventuate, the former Richmond premiership player responded: ''I don't know about that … If Richmond don't look like making the eight again … I think they've gotta push for the eight.''
In terms of home-and-away wins and losses, Malthouse said a pass mark for the Tigers would be to achieve more than 11 wins in 2012.
Ponting out that Jack Riewoldt should be over his injury concerns and other developmental issues Malthouse added: ''Dustin Martin's a year older and [Trent] Cotchin's a year older.''
Richmond is currently negotiating with Hardwick's management to extend his contract although it is not certain whether the coach will receive a one or two-year extension.
Admitting he was sticking up for Hardwick who was a close friend, Clarkson said two nights ago that his own uncertain contractual situation proved a distraction for Hawthorn last season.
He said: ''They'll be crazy if they don't reappoint him and reappoint him soon.
''For the first time I feel Richmond have got some stability in their club. Just make the appointment.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-tightlipped-on-coach-20120228-1u11s.html#ixzz1ngtc1sWu
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Mmmmm, the plot thickens......I agree that this is the first time in a long time we have had stability and more. But gee Malthouse keeps that door open doesn't he, what do you do???
Malthouse said he was staying at the Pies when his tenure was up.......he didn't......Malthouse said he wouldn't coach again........he will, will it be at the Tiges........this season will tell.
I have the feeling that's what we are waiting for, had Mick stayed at the Pies I really think we would have signed Hardwick by now.
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Mmmmm, the plot thickens......I agree that this is the first time in a long time we have had stability and more. But gee Malthouse keeps that door open doesn't he, what do you do???
Malthouse said he was staying at the Pies when his tenure was up.......he didn't......Malthouse said he wouldn't coach again........he will, will it be at the Tiges........this season will tell.
I have the feeling that's what we are waiting for, had Mick stayed at the Pies I really think we would have signed Hardwick by now.
We're in danger of creating another Messiah complex like we did with Sheedy if we don't keep taking the same line in all media responses. Thankfully the club is not deviating one iota in words or actions. From a supporters perspective, let's just give Hardwick our total support and trust until such time as he proves himself to be unworthy of that, otherwise we will just be slating the media's thirst for more turmoil at our club.
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I can tell you if we are sweating on Malthouse then our club has learn't nothing. Malthouse isn't even in the frame, he isn't within cooee of coaching our club at this stage barring a catastrophy on feild. Damien's contract extention is all about length, money and the timing of the announcement ( the timing on the announcement is gauge on what would be an acceptable time to the membership) not on how much stuffing hype and hysteria the media can pump into it.
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Mmmmm, the plot thickens......I agree that this is the first time in a long time we have had stability and more. But gee Malthouse keeps that door open doesn't he, what do you do???
Malthouse said he was staying at the Pies when his tenure was up.......he didn't......Malthouse said he wouldn't coach again........he will, will it be at the Tiges........this season will tell.
I have the feeling that's what we are waiting for, had Mick stayed at the Pies I really think we would have signed Hardwick by now.
:lol :lol
What plot exactly?
The media is spinning to sell papers and get people to think there is some hidden agenda :-\
The media cast it out there and some of our supporters fall for it hook line & sinker. No doubt we are our worst enemy at times...
Simply by responding Benny has now made sure it remains in focus and ditto with supporters turning it into some sort of Grisham novel fan the spot fire that the media are trying create
We're in danger of creating another Messiah complex like we did with Sheedy if we don't keep taking the same line in all media responses. Thankfully the club is not deviating one iota in words or actions. From a supporters perspective, let's just give Hardwick our total support and trust until such time as he proves himself to be unworthy of that, otherwise we will just be slating the media's thirst for more turmoil at our club.
Agree smokey except I reckon the club should just shut up, no need to fan the flames and keep the story ticking along for no reason by commenting on it every time someone makes a comment about it. They made one statement about it that's all they need to do.
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Give 'em nothing Tiges.
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I can tell you if we are sweating on Malthouse then our club has learn't nothing. Malthouse isn't even in the frame, he isn't within cooee of coaching our club at this stage barring a catastrophy on feild. Damien's contract extention is all about length, money and the timing of the announcement ( the timing on the announcement is gauge on what would be an acceptable time to the membership) not on how much stuffing hype and hysteria the media can pump into it.
This. Summed it up perfectly Ramjet.
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They talked a little about this on the Hot Breakfast (MMM) this morning. Darcy asked Molloy if he would he prefer Malthouse if given the chance and he said no because we already heading down a road and actually taking steps forward, and that Dimma is improving the wins by a couple a year. He also mentioned other ex Tigers like Sheedy and said none come back and doesn't expect any different with Malthouse. Eddie 10-chins got our back and said that they were on the back page all year with their coaching issue and it isn't stop them from being in flag contention until 3/4 time of the grand final where they got beaten by a better team. McGuire said that if Malthouse wants to coach in 2013 though then he wishes him all the best. The general consensus was to sign up Dimma already, but it should be a non-issue whether we do early or not. Eddie backed us again saying we are only 3 years into a 5 year plan (which Molloy piped in with a "30 year plan" :lol ) so why wouldn't we resign him. It's not like we've gone backwards.
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Richmond coaching speculation
Richmond chief executive Brendan Gale has refused guarantee coach Damien Hardwick's future.
Hardwick remains unsigned and there is speculation former Collingwood mentor Mick Malthouse will take up the role next season.
Malthouse has dismissed the suggestion that the uncertainty will affect the Tigers.
Gale says the club will not be reacting to outside pressure on the coaching issue.
http://www.skynews.com.au/sport/article.aspx?id=723661&vId=3091133
The club needs to hold its nerve against media pressure and continue on with its process to re-sign him and announce it when they are ready.
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How bored is the media to start rehashing everyone else's stories? Talk about a whirlwind from a few months ago when it was mentioned that Dimma would be out of contract this year. We've been the laughing stock for 3 decades I hope we don't give the public any more ammo and pull a Freo by ditching Dimma for Malty (I understand the difference being Hardwick will be uncontracted :p). Especially when he hasn't actually done anything wrong. In fact, if we see the same improvement this year as last year then I'll be pretty bummed if this is the case.
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Mmmmm, the plot thickens......I agree that this is the first time in a long time we have had stability and more. But gee Malthouse keeps that door open doesn't he, what do you do???
Malthouse said he was staying at the Pies when his tenure was up.......he didn't......Malthouse said he wouldn't coach again........he will, will it be at the Tiges........this season will tell.
I have the feeling that's what we are waiting for, had Mick stayed at the Pies I really think we would have signed Hardwick by now.
:lol :lol
What plot exactly?
The media is spinning to sell papers and get people to think there is some hidden agenda :-\
The media cast it out there and some of our supporters fall for it hook line & sinker. No doubt we are our worst enemy at times...
Simply by responding Benny has now made sure it remains in focus and ditto with supporters turning it into some sort of Grisham novel fan the spot fire that the media are trying create
We're in danger of creating another Messiah complex like we did with Sheedy if we don't keep taking the same line in all media responses. Thankfully the club is not deviating one iota in words or actions. From a supporters perspective, let's just give Hardwick our total support and trust until such time as he proves himself to be unworthy of that, otherwise we will just be slating the media's thirst for more turmoil at our club.
Agree smokey except I reckon the club should just shut up, no need to fan the flames and keep the story ticking along for no reason by commenting on it every time someone makes a comment about it. They made one statement about it that's all they need to do.
WP, I am a Hardwick supporter and wan't him re-signed, but come on how long have you been around for mate.
Like it or not, listen to it or not, believe it or not......the media creates such a circus that many clubs have eventually circum to their.....influence and mob mentality.
I personally couldn't give a stuff what the media say, like I said I wan't Hardwick re-signed, but you would have to be living under a rock to think that the amount of media speculation and press that they aim at clubs and put on them does not affect the clubs decision because of the supporters that as you said "fan the flames".
Also, don't think Gayle and the club is faultless, they are just like any other Management group anywhere, if pushed they will turn...
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circum ;D
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size (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/fighting0074.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
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Agree smokey except I reckon the club should just shut up, no need to fan the flames and keep the story ticking along for no reason by commenting on it every time someone makes a comment about it. They made one statement about it that's all they need to do.
Agree here WP. And in reality the club has probably only made one or two comments, it just seems that there has been a lot of talk because most media outlets have run the story with their own various bent.
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circum ;D
:whistle :whistle around..... :huh ::) :P
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Caro on 3aw just now with Dwayne Russell and Tony Shaw.
* She said the RFC Board and Benny Gale are happy with how Hardwick is going. She expects them to re-sign Hardwick within the next month before the start of the season. Possibly an extension until the end of 2013 if not 2014.
* Caro also said Richmond has no interest in Mick Malthouse as coach. Tony Shaw replied that's stupid as if Hardwick isn't signed up by the middle of the season and Richmond has just 4 wins then it would be negligent of the club to not look at Mick.
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Caro on 3aw just now with Dwayne Russell and Tony Shaw.
* She said the RFC Board and Benny Gale are happy with how Hardwick is going. She expects them to re-sign Hardwick within the next month before the start of the season. Possibly an extension until the end of 2013 if not 2014.
* Caro also said Richmond has no interest in Mick Malthouse as coach. Tony Shaw replied that's stupid as if Hardwick isn't signed up by the middle of the season and Richmond has just 4 wins then it would be negligible of the club to not look at Mick.
:thumbsup :thumbsup...........stuff off Shaw
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Shaw's comment is spot on.
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Shaw's comment is spot on.
I disagree, we need to keep the stability and build on the culture Hardwick has brought to the club. A 2 year extension is fine by me :cheers
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Morons. Shaw said if Hardwick is unsigned mid year and we're doing poohouse then we'd be wrong not to look at Malthouse. He didn't say bugger DH off for MM.
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Morons. Shaw said if Hardwick is unsigned mid year and we're doing poohouse then we'd be wrong not to look at Malthouse. He didn't say bugger DH off for MM.
Malthouse will bring this club to it's knees, The guy is a dictator! we don't need him anywhere near the club (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0019.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
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Whilst favey is spot on with what shaw meant...
I think the other blokes here were saying stuff off shaw cos he's a poo bloke
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Whilst favey is spot on with what shaw meant...
I think the other blokes here were saying stuff off shaw cos he's a poo bloke
he is a shitman who hates Richmond but there's nothing wrong with his comments.
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Morons. Shaw said if Hardwick is unsigned mid year and we're doing poohouse then we'd be wrong not to look at Malthouse. He didn't say bugger DH off for MM.
Malthouse will bring this club to it's knees, The guy is a dictator! we don't need him anywhere near the club (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0019.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
What the stuff does that emoticon mean?
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Dude what are you smoking :huh :huh More crap spews of of his mouth than the Yarra spews into Port Phillip bay! The guy is a moron(http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0025.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
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Morons. Shaw said if Hardwick is unsigned mid year and we're doing poohouse then we'd be wrong not to look at Malthouse. He didn't say bugger DH off for MM.
Malthouse will bring this club to it's knees, The guy is a dictator! we don't need him anywhere near the club (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0019.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
What the stuff does that emoticon mean?
Run Scotty Run......
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Dude what are you smoking :huh :huh More crap spews of of his mouth than the Yarra spews into Port Phillip bay! The guy is a moron(http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0025.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
You have something in common with him then.
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Dude what are you smoking :huh :huh More crap spews of of his mouth than the Yarra spews into Port Phillip bay! The guy is a moron(http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0025.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
You have something in common with him then.
No need to get personal because we don't agree on somthing :police: :police:
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Dude what are you smoking :huh :huh More crap spews of of his mouth than the Yarra spews into Port Phillip bay! The guy is a moron(http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0025.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
You have something in common with him then.
No need to get personal because we don't agree on somthing :police: :police:
Learn to spell, guy.
Back on topic. ;)
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Dude what are you smoking :huh :huh More crap spews of of his mouth than the Yarra spews into Port Phillip bay! The guy is a moron(http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/animal0025.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/page/7)
You have something in common with him then.
No need to get personal because we don't agree on somthing :police: :police:
Learn to spell, guy.
Back on topic. ;)
One day I might :P :P
Is that bath cold yet? Is it too late to join you?
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:rollin :lol
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SO that's Caro headline re the tigers for tomorrow then ;D
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Robbo and Wheatly :chuck talking about coaches again on 360. Robbo has changed his tune from last night. Reckons that the expectation on a coach in his third year after turning over 30 players shouldn't be too high.
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Agree smokey except I reckon the club should just shut up, no need to fan the flames and keep the story ticking along for no reason by commenting on it every time someone makes a comment about it. They made one statement about it that's all they need to do.
Agree here WP. And in reality the club has probably only made one or two comments, it just seems that there has been a lot of talk because most media outlets have run the story with their own various bent.
True
But my point was (and granted at 6.45am in the morning I didn't word it too well) the Club made a statement back in Jan about the coaching side of things. That's all the needed to do IMO
Benny Gale doesn't need to come out every time the papers decided to re-hash the same stuff and repeat what's already been said
The club has reacted to Clarkson, are they going to come out again next week when someone else makes a comment about it?
Shut up about it and just do whatever it is they intend to do without giving a blow by blow commentary about it at regular intervals in the media
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non event reporters peeing in the wind.
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Robbo and Wheatly :chuck talking about coaches again on 360. Robbo has changed his tune from last night. Reckons that the expectation on a coach in his third year after turning over 30 players shouldn't be too high.
Well with Robbo changing his tune in a 24 hour window I think we can all sleep much better tonight :sleep
Wonder what he'll be saying tomorrow ;D
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Mark Robinson is a dill.
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so in effect this will be another 5 year plan.
I cant understand why we would entertain another 2 years. 1 yes but 2 and the season hasn't started yet. :banghead
Another concern is where Caro (if true) got her info from.
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Mark Robinson is a dill.
Maybe, I like his passion though.
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so in effect this will be another 5 year plan.
I cant understand why we would entertain another 2 years. 1 yes but 2 and the season hasn't started yet. :banghead
Another concern is where Caro (if true) got her info from.
Well until it happens it's pure speculation... but people certainly are getting all worked up about it ;D
And just like her article today where all she did was quote what Benny said in an interview on the wireless yesterday, her info like alot of journos daniel comes from what is already in the public domain ;D
And BTW how will it be another 5 year plan, we are currently into year 3 of a 5 year plan. If and I stress IF Dimma was to get a 2 year extension isn't that just tying him up for the life of the current 5 year plan :thumbsup
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Hardwick will be at Richmond till the end of 2014 IMHO. He is signed for 2012 they must give him 2 years on top of that. The first 2 years he has had to spend trying to repair whats gone on over the last decade. He has improved the club out of sight IMHO. A new contract till 2014 would be fair. :gotigers
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I hate the words "5 year plan". Stop saying it. Do you want me to have nightmares :banghead Well you probably do ;D
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non event reporters peeing in the wind.
Correct, this will be news until the next gws signing scandal
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non event reporters peeing in the wind.
Correct, this will be news until the next gws signing scandal
At least they're not talking about Lids any more ;D
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non event reporters peeing in the wind.
Correct, this will be news until the next gws signing scandal
At least they're not talking about Lids any more ;D
Now that you mention it...... :lol
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The club has reacted to Clarkson, are they going to come out again next week when someone else makes a comment about it?
I think you're being overly harsh. Gale responded to questioning but he didn't give them much at all. Handled it well.
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Mmmmm, the plot thickens......I agree that this is the first time in a long time we have had stability and more. But gee Malthouse keeps that door open doesn't he, what do you do???
Malthouse said he was staying at the Pies when his tenure was up.......he didn't......Malthouse said he wouldn't coach again........he will, will it be at the Tiges........this season will tell.
I have the feeling that's what we are waiting for, had Mick stayed at the Pies I really think we would have signed Hardwick by now.
We're in danger of creating another Messiah complex like we did with Sheedy if we don't keep taking the same line in all media responses. Thankfully the club is not deviating one iota in words or actions. From a supporters perspective, let's just give Hardwick our total support and trust until such time as he proves himself to be unworthy of that, otherwise we will just be slating the media's thirst for more turmoil at our club.
Club leaves door ajar for Malthouse,Malthouse doesn't come and Dimma says stuff this I'm leaving and we're in a big poo.
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Audio of Sports Today from 3aw on 28/02/2012 which includes Benny Gale's interview starting about 5 mins in.
http://media.mytalk.com.au/3AW/AUDIO/280212_sports.mp3 (http://media.mytalk.com.au/3AW/AUDIO/280212_sports.mp3)
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The club has reacted to Clarkson, are they going to come out again next week when someone else makes a comment about it?
I think you're being overly harsh. Gale responded to questioning but he didn't give them much at all. Handled it well.
It's not about whether he handled it well. Have they or have they not already said what the "process" is and said they won't be influencec by what others say & think? Didn't Benny just repeat it again?
IIRC they have so there is no need to repeat it ad nauseum everytime the media bring it up IMHO
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IIRC they have so there is no need to repeat it ad nauseum everytime the media bring it up IMHO
Unrealistic.
If they're asked the question what are they going to do just ignore it? That would arguably be worse and create further conjecture.
So long as they consistently stick to the party line is what's important. The media will lose interest soon enough if the answer is always the same.
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agree with the magic man's line of thinking here. if the question keeps getting asked it has to be answered.
if gale, or whomever it is getting intereviewed starts to refuse to answer or gets ansty about the question being asked, then that will further fuel the media driven fires.
if they keep asking the same question, just keep giving the same answer
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Morons. Shaw said if Hardwick is unsigned mid year and we're doing poohouse then we'd be wrong not to look at Malthouse. He didn't say bugger DH off for MM.
Shaws comment is a sack of poo. But I'm pretty damn sure you know that already, don't you.
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So with a team that is capable of playing finals, it would be smart of us to sign up Hardwick during the season (assuming he's unsigned like Shaw said) if we're playing poohouse and underachieving? You wouldn't even entertain Malthouse under those circumstances?
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SO that's Caro headline re the tigers for tomorrow then ;D
More than likely she has made it up. She's taken a punt that we will sign him up before the season starts. Otherwise we have a leaker that needs to be shot from guns.
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So with a team that is capable of playing finals, it would be smart of us to sign up Hardwick during the season (assuming he's unsigned like Shaw said) if we're playing poohouse and underachieving? You wouldn't even entertain Malthouse under those circumstances?
We would have to be really really bad like 0 wins 12 losses with in house fighting and upset.
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So with a team that is capable of playing finals, it would be smart of us to sign up Hardwick during the season (assuming he's unsigned like Shaw said) if we're playing poohouse and underachieving? You wouldn't even entertain Malthouse under those circumstances?
We would have to be really really bad like 0 wins 12 losses with in house fighting and upset.
Agree RRJ but could you honestly see Malthouse coming to the club in those circumstances? :help
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shows alot of confidence in hardwick signing him up with a 2 yr extension.
hope he re-pays the faith if its true
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Mark Robinson is a dill.
Maybe, I like his passion though.
Wo wo wo wo wo WO, hang on a second here, what the stuff is this? >:(
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Anyone hear Robo on SEN tonight? A guy rang in and said he can't believe we are thinking of re signing Harwick and defiantly should be chasing Malthouse at the end of the season! Robo just laughed at him and said and I quote " I don't normally say this but.....buy the Herald sun tomorrow" and he left at that.
My gut is there will either be more speculation that Hardwick will be signed shortly OR an interview with Mick where he said he would love to coach Richmond next year :help
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Big Sexy Mick isn't going to come out and say that. not yet at least ;D
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Anyone hear Robo on SEN tonight? A guy rang in and said he can't believe we are thinking of re signing Harwick and defiantly should be chasing Malthouse at the end of the season! Robo just laughed at him and said and I quote " I don't normally say this but.....buy the Herald sun tomorrow" and he left at that.
My gut is there will either be more speculation that Hardwick will be signed shortly OR an interview with Mick where he said he would love to coach Richmond next year :help
Or they will announce he's re-signed :rollin :rollin
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Anyone hear Robo on SEN tonight? A guy rang in and said he can't believe we are thinking of re signing Harwick and defiantly should be chasing Malthouse at the end of the season! Robo just laughed at him and said and I quote " I don't normally say this but.....buy the Herald sun tomorrow" and he left at that.
My gut is there will either be more speculation that Hardwick will be signed shortly OR an interview with Mick where he said he would love to coach Richmond next year :help
Or they will announce he's re-signed :rollin :rollin
Well I was thinking that but didn't want to be shot down for suggesting it :laugh:
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:thumbsup
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MM is retired and more interested in talking about social issues on neil mitchell show than coaching...Move on FFS :lol
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:thumbsup
might have to give that a double :thumbsup :thumbsup
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:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup I raise you
Sick of this MM debate, needs to po and hang with hus new channel 7 buddie. Macavaney and cometti
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Mick Malthouse distances himself from Richmond rumours
by: Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
March 02, 2012
MICK Malthouse will not coach Richmond in 2013.
Despite the Tigers not having re-signed Damien Hardwick, they are committed to offering him a new contract, although the timing of an announcement and duration of a new deal are unknown.
Malthouse's name has been prominent in recent days after Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson on Monday urged Richmond to re-sign Hardwick to avoid speculation becoming a distraction this season.
But on Tuesday Malthouse, who has not ruled himself out of a future coaching job, distanced himself from the situation.
Asked if he expected to be contacted by the Tigers, the former Collingwood, West Coast and Footscray coach said on 3AW: "I don't know about that."
This year he is commentating on Channel 7 and 3AW and recently was announced as a Vice-Chancellors Fellow at La Trobe University, dealing in leadership development.
The Tigers, meanwhile, were perplexed by Clarkson's comments, believing they added pressure to Hardwick's situation. The comments led to questions to Malthouse on radio.
It is believed Clarkson and Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale spoke at an event on Wednesday night.
Earlier, Gale said he understood why Clarkson made his remarks.
"They are good friends professionally and personally, good loyal mates, so I can understand why 'Clarko' might make those comments," Gale said.
"People will have opinions, but we won't be supplying a running commentary on Damien, and we will make an announcement at a time of our choosing."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouse-distances-himself-from-richmond-rumours/story-e6frf9jf-1226286661654
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:sleep
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That's good to know. Now, we can focus on making the elusive 8.
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Mick is a brilliant contingency. Lucky Tigers
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Robbo eats his own faeces
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Another "news" story that says....well.... basically nothing
What a surprise
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Article doesn't confirm or deny anything...
In any case... We have a coach, let's back him in 100%
Forget romanticising about past players that have no intrest other than to wave the cheese..
Emphasis "past champion" its time to create new ones :shh
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Another Herald Sun sensationalist headline where the detail tells us nothing.
Typical Murdoch paper.... as for Robbo you're a goose.
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You are being very kind to robbo MM
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Robbo eats his own faeces
Yes, there can be no doubt, but on the other hand he has great passion
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Robbo eats his own faeces
Yes, there can be no doubt, but on the other hand he has great passion
true, true
he also likes to scratch stem cells off unborn children
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mmm Rupert will be happy with Robbo's form
one line quote and makes a story out of it.
this bloke makes stuff up.
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the journos will be making up stories all year
so they can claim to be the news breaker on this issue.
time to shut up shop RFC.
and i reckon BG is the best person to control this situation
and allow the club to run its own agenda not some
journos that love shooting the breeze with made up crap.
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Robbo eats his own faeces
Yes, there can be no doubt, but on the other hand he has great passion
true, true
he also likes to scratch stem cells off unborn children
Stuff me, thats why he goes overseas every summer to tour 3rd world maternity hospitals.
I thought it was to pay new mothers off for the first antibody rich breast feed
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Mick is a brilliant contingency. Lucky Tigers
Last we heard Mick retired from senior coaching and left the game in tears. It's a tough gig at his age, I''m not sure he'll be back.
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Hardwick has already signed. Benny Gale is just taking the pee out of the lot of them. :clapping
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The percentage increase in AFL Journo's over the last 10 years is massive - actually I should say factor increase it is so high - this is the result. Oh, and BTW, expect us to cop heaps more as we progress up the ladder. :banghead
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The percentage increase in AFL Journo's over the last 10 years is massive - actually I should say factor increase it is so high - this is the result. Oh, and BTW, expect us to cop heaps more as we progress up the ladder. :banghead
Ruanaidh, your posts make alot of sense mate and you seem like a good bloke.
But your username is just too complicated for the knuckle dragging uneducated masses here. The people's mod himself has been bombarded with questions.
Can we call you 'Roon Dog' or 'Randall' or something?
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The percentage increase in AFL Journo's over the last 10 years is massive - actually I should say factor increase it is so high - this is the result. Oh, and BTW, expect us to cop heaps more as we progress up the ladder. :banghead
Ruanaidh, your posts make alot of sense mate and you seem like a good bloke.
But your username is just too complicated for the knuckle dragging uneducated masses here. The people's mod himself has been bombarded with questions.
Can we call you 'Roon Dog' or 'Randall' or something?
Great post, you read my mind (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/winking0047.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/free-emoticons-winking.html)
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It is the gaelic spelling of Rooney you barbarians.
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The percentage increase in AFL Journo's over the last 10 years is massive - actually I should say factor increase it is so high - this is the result. Oh, and BTW, expect us to cop heaps more as we progress up the ladder. :banghead
Ruanaidh, your posts make alot of sense mate and you seem like a good bloke.
But your username is just too complicated for the knuckle dragging uneducated masses here. The people's mod himself has been bombarded with questions.
Can we call you 'Roon Dog' or 'Randall' or something?
Great post, you read my mind (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/winking0047.gif) (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/free-emoticons-winking.html)
It means "hero" in irish.
:cheers
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Oh FFS, It means nothing! K.
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CARO!!!! Where is my Dancing CARO!!
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I don't beleive I asked WHAT it means, guys.
I was actually talking to Roon Dog, guys. You got that, guys? K, Guys? >:(
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Another "news" story that says....well.... basically nothing
What a surprise
Yep an absolute nothing of an article. Must be a very slow news day at the hs.
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I don't beleive I asked WHAT it means, guys.
I was actually talking to Roon Dog, guys. You got that, guys? K, Guys? >:(
Im glad you popped on actually, when is this pot hole gonna be fixed out front of my place you feckin eedjut?
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I don't beleive I asked WHAT it means, guys.
I was actually talking to Roon Dog, guys. You got that, guys? K, Guys? >:(
Im glad you popped on actually, when is this pot hole gonna be fixed out front of my place you feckin eedjut?
Who be this?
How dare you >:(
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If Checker Hughes or Dan Minogue were still alive some dipskata journo on award wages would be writing a story about either of them linked to us.
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the journos will be making up stories all year
so they can claim to be the news breaker on this issue.
time to shut up shop RFC.
and i reckon BG is the best person to control this situation
and allow the club to run its own agenda not some
journos that love shooting the breeze with made up crap.
Until either Kim Hagdorn, Tim Gossage or Karl Langdon come up with something all that will be written or said will only be cloak and dagger. :lol :rollin :lol
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Until either Kim Hagdorn, Tim Gossage or Karl Langdon come up with something all that will be written or said will only be cloak and dagger. :lol :rollin :lol
Kim must have heard you Tucky :lol
Richmond should end Hardwick doubt
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
2 March 2012
RICHMOND is almost certain to retain Damien Hardwick as senior coach beyond this year.
So, the sooner it is done the better.
Reappointment of the senior coach will be the benefit for everyone in the AFL community, especially Richmond as an organisation, Hardwick as the coach with future plans as well as his players.
It seems only a matter until theEssendon and Port Adelaide premiership tough nut is reaffirmed as Tigers coach for a further tilt at generating potential finals glory at one of the competition’s genuinely traditional organisations.
Everything from around Tigerland indicates that Hardwick has an powerful rapport and respect among his player group and there is a genuine commitment to continue mounting a serious assault at making finals and staying in the top eight for a sustained period.
That strong bond can’t be ignored and surely won’t be, by president Gary March as well as his board of directors and chief executive Brendon Gale.
There is a coterie group lurking around the edges of Richmond with renewed Tigers premiership ambitions that continues to make noises behind the scenes of establishing a slush fund to ultimately attract triple flag winning coach Mick Malthouse back to Punt Road.
Malthouse is out of coaching this year for the first time in almost 30 seasons after a highly contentious succession plan implementation from Pies officials to replace the coaching great with Collingwood legend Nathan Buckley.
Malthouse engineered a West Coast Eagles pioneering flag heists in 1992 and ’94 and then took Collingwood to a euphoric 2010 premiership among his 664-game career that started with Footscray back in 1984.
He is probably even oblivious to clandestine endeavours to lure his coaching talents back to Richmond where as a ruthless back-pocket he was a member of the Tigers 1980 title-winning unit under then coach Tony Jewell.
But until March and Gale quash all raging speculation of a Malthouse appointment it will continue as one of the AFL’s biggest stories of the 2012 season.
That sort of uncertainty, if the Tigers hierarchy are committed to Hardwick’s development plan, can only linger unnecessarily.
Hardwick and his young Tigers have an especially rocky start to the 2012 premiership home-and-away campaign and realistically could be almost out of finals chances by the end of April.
The Tigers start with Carlton and Collingwood, before taking on an equally young and emerging unit in Melbourne all at the MCG.
Then it’s down the road to the unsavoury Simonds Stadium against reigning premiers Geelong and then an Etihad Stadium engagement with a star-studded and 2012 top-four candidate West Coast in Round 5 on Sunday April 29.
Unless Hardwick and his Tigers can pull off a few surprise wins over four genuine premiership fancies for this season as well as knock over the Demons, it is potentially a horror start for Richmond’s finals prospects.
Even after that highly confronting start to their season, the Tigers still face the likes of Essendon, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Fremantle in a four-game block between Rounds 8-11, before an outing at a foreign Skoda Stadium against Greater Western Sydney.
If the Tigers are genuinely committed to Hardwick, as appears to be the case from informed AFL insiders, then a more appropriate time to confirm that faith is nearer to now rather than later.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/03/02/richmond-should-end-hardwick-doubt/
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This article is rubbish, and the reason being. It is 2-3 articles from the last week rehashed into something new and boring...
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Thanks Kim. :wallywink
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Richmond should end Hardwick doubt
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
2 March 2012
RICHMOND is almost certain to retain Damien Hardwick as senior coach beyond this year.
So, the sooner it is done the better.
Reappointment of the senior coach will be the benefit for everyone in the AFL community, especially Richmond as an organisation, Hardwick as the coach with future plans as well as his players.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/03/02/richmond-should-end-hardwick-doubt/
Erm Kim.....I would have thought having a bit of pressure hanging over the coach to perform would actually benefit Richmond as an organisation and Hardwicks as a coach. As for benefitting the Afl community, well who gives a stuff really, but if you include yourself in that group, having him not sign gives you an open window to write more crap and earn a living out of the situation.
So the sooner it's done the better? Wrong.
More like its better if it's done in a few months time.
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Bring back Kim Duthie
The People's Kim
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Why the stuff can't the media just stop trying to make news about us when there is no stuffing news... I swear they want us to self destruct again
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Bring back Kim Duthie
The People's Kim
:lol
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Anyone hear Robo on SEN tonight? A guy rang in and said he can't believe we are thinking of re signing Harwick and defiantly should be chasing Malthouse at the end of the season! Robo just laughed at him and said and I quote " I don't normally say this but.....buy the Herald sun tomorrow" and he left at that.
My gut is there will either be more speculation that Hardwick will be signed shortly OR an interview with Mick where he said he would love to coach Richmond next year :help
Nothing in the paper this morning Yobbo
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AFL fairytales abound, but not all come true
By BAFL
The Roar
2 Mar 2012
Some of the biggest AFL news stories covered over the past 12 months have us believing in fairytales, and have pulled at the heartstrings like a good Mills & Boon novel.
James Hird being appointed coach of Essendon was a top selling romance novel. Bomber Thompson reuniting with Baby Bomber premiership teammate added another subplot.
Chris Scott winning a premiership in his first year as coach with Geelong was a fair dinkum modern-day fairytale. Mick Malthouse farewelling Collingwood was a real tear-jerker.
Mark Neeld and Brendan McCartney were both eternal bridesmaids who finally became happy brides. The list goes on and on.
This week though I got the feeling that Hawthorn coach Alistair Clarkson is not a hopeless romantic. He is however a very smart man.
He subtly turned the spotlight from his Hawks being overwhelming premiership favourites and poked the Tigers right in the eye, insisting that Richmond would be crazy not to re-sign their coach Damien Hardwick immediately.
Were Clarko’s comments simply to look out for his close mate Dimma, or a heads-up for the Tigers to get their house in order and curb the inevitable destabilising innuendo?
Well, the innuendo has started with a blaze, and this season’s best-selling romance centres around the possible consummation of the off-again on-again relationship between Mick Malthouse and the Richmond Football Club.
What a short retirement that was, Mick! This romance could not have been scripted any better. Malthouse out of retirement and reigniting his coaching career where it all started so many years ago, Punt Road. (Insert laughter.)
I have been a loyal and passionate Richmond Football Club member for over 30 years. Take it from me, I am well versed in the Sheedy romance and tear-jerker stakes.
For the first time in a long time Richmond are a truly united club with clear direction and ambitious future plans. We have broken all kinds of membership records over the past two years. We are well on track to eliminate our debts. The young tiger cubs are developing nicely under Hardwick. These are happy days at Tigerland.
The administration has delivered a consistent message over the past two years. They will not deviate from their plans and there will be no shortcuts to deliver their 11th premiership.
Yes, historically, Richmond has jumped the gun, appointing and sacking coaches at will. However this is not the administration of the Richmond Football Club today. The RFC of today is united and on a journey to achieve success.
Hardwick and CEO Brendon Gale together have been the drivers of these ambitious goals. As Gale said yesterday, there is a process is in place to discuss Hardwick’s contract extension. That process will not be played out in the media.
It is a given that Malthouse’s name will come up this year as he is the face of Channel Seven’s AFL coverage. I have no doubt he will be linked with every struggling club’s job. Let the fairytale dreamers dream.
Dimma, you are the right fit to take our club forward. You are our knight in shining armour, and we all know that’s the guy who gets the girl. For a wedding present, that 11th premiership cup would look nice with the new dining setting.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/03/02/afl-fairytales-abound-but-not-all-come-true/
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Why the stuff can't the media just stop trying to make news about us when there is no stuffing news... I swear they want us to self destruct again
BINGO :thumbsup
Hence why they keep writing the rubbish because we react to it .... it sells papers
Personally I find it :sleep :sleep
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AFL fairytales abound, but not all come true
By BAFL
The Roar
2 Mar 2012
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For the first time in a long time Richmond are a truly united club with clear direction and ambitious future plans. We have broken all kinds of membership records over the past two years. We are well on track to eliminate our debts. The young tiger cubs are developing nicely under Hardwick. These are happy days at Tigerland.
The administration has delivered a consistent message over the past two years. They will not deviate from their plans and there will be no shortcuts to deliver their 11th premiership.
Yes, historically, Richmond has jumped the gun, appointing and sacking coaches at will. However this is not the administration of the Richmond Football Club today. The RFC of today is united and on a journey to achieve success.
Hardwick and CEO Brendon Gale together have been the drivers of these ambitious goals. As Gale said yesterday, there is a process is in place to discuss Hardwick’s contract extension. That process will not be played out in the media.
It is a given that Malthouse’s name will come up this year as he is the face of Channel Seven’s AFL coverage. I have no doubt he will be linked with every struggling club’s job. Let the fairytale dreamers dream.
Dimma, you are the right fit to take our club forward. You are our knight in shining armour, and we all know that’s the guy who gets the girl. For a wedding present, that 11th premiership cup would look nice with the new dining setting.
What he said.
:clapping
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Walls this morning on SEN said Richmond should re-sign Hardwick now to 2-3 more years to avoid any in-season distraction.
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as every week goes on it looks more liekly we have the right off field mix in place. I really think some of the off field appointments we have made in last 6 months have enhanced dimmas prospects :thumbsup
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I think Hardwick will be around for a very long time. He has already brought improvements that all can see and people are forgetting that at this years upcoming national draft we will have 3 very decent selections at the ND. If we could add 3 quality youngsters then our list will get another very good injection of quality and youth. Hardwick is well on the way to being a very long term coach at the RFC.
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I think Hardwick will be around for a very long time. He has already brought improvements that all can see and people are forgetting that at this years upcoming national draft we will have 3 very decent selections at the ND. If we could add 3 quality youngsters then our list will get another very good injection of quality and youth. Hardwick is well on the way to being a very long term coach at the RFC.
As Pauline H once said "Please explain"
:bow
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Walls this morning on SEN said Richmond should re-sign Hardwick now to 2-3 more years to avoid any in-season distraction.
Is this the same Walls who gave whacks out the Bummers when they extended Knights contract after he took them to the finals ;D
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I think Hardwick will be around for a very long time. He has already brought improvements that all can see and people are forgetting that at this years upcoming national draft we will have 3 very decent selections at the ND. If we could add 3 quality youngsters then our list will get another very good injection of quality and youth. Hardwick is well on the way to being a very long term coach at the RFC.
As Pauline H once said "Please explain"
:bow
The first two rounds of this national draft seem to be very good according to those who reckon they know. So our R1 and R2 selections should get us 2 players ()considering people are saying we will finish between 12th and 8th). We also have the compensation pick which relates back to Tambling and which I believe is linked to where Port Adelaide finish. Port should finish 3rd last which gets us another decent pick. All up 3 picks.
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We also have the compensation pick which relates back to Tambling and which I believe is linked to where Port Adelaide finish.
Wouldn't it be linked to where Adelaide finish, as that's who we got the pick from?
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We also have the compensation pick which relates back to Tambling and which I believe is linked to where Port Adelaide finish.
Wouldn't it be linked to where Adelaide finish, as that's who we got the pick from?
Nah I think it was linked to Port Adel's finish based on the ols priority pick system smokey and how many wins Port may or may not get
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Didn't we trade our compo pick last draft? or did we have two??
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Didn't we trade our compo pick last draft? or did we have two??
We traded our compo pick from Adel that we got for Tambling to Port and got one of their's in return, ended up being a better pick
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Adelaide must be bleeding that they traded us that pick. We will end up with 3 players for Tambling and I think Elton is one of those + whoever we get next year as well. Fine trade indeed IMHO.
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Adelaide must be bleeding that they traded us that pick. We will end up with 3 players for Tambling and I think Elton is one of those + whoever we get next year as well. Fine trade indeed IMHO.
"The Tigers will receive two NAB AFL Draft selections in return for the 24-year-old; a compensation pick at the end of the first round and a third-round pick, which currently sits at No.50."
So that was D-Mac and this years pick.
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We got Dean Mac with the 3rd rounder, then ontraded the compo pick last trade period to Gold Coast for Pick 26 (Todd Elton) and their 2nd round compo pick which was originally Port's.
So in effect, Tambling got us Dean Mac, Todd Elton and a pick directly after Port's second round pick this draft. :gotigers
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So its to our benefit that Port has a shocking season. The less they win the higher up the pecking order we will get with that particular pick :lol
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We got Dean Mac with the 3rd rounder, then ontraded the compo pick last trade period to Gold Coast for Pick 26 (Todd Elton) and their 2nd round compo pick which was originally Port's.
So in effect, Tambling got us Dean Mac, Todd Elton and a pick directly after Port's second round pick this draft. :gotigers
RFC_O schooled :bow
(and the Crows :thumbsup)
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We got Dean Mac with the 3rd rounder, then ontraded the compo pick last trade period to Gold Coast for Pick 26 (Todd Elton) and their 2nd round compo pick which was originally Port's.
So in effect, Tambling got us Dean Mac, Todd Elton and a pick directly after Port's second round pick this draft. :gotigers
RFC_O schooled :bow
(and the Crows :thumbsup)
touche
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lawl
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We also have the compensation pick which relates back to Tambling and which I believe is linked to where Port Adelaide finish.
Wouldn't it be linked to where Adelaide finish, as that's who we got the pick from?
Nah I think it was linked to Port Adel's finish based on the ols priority pick system smokey and how many wins Port may or may not get
Makes sense now WP, I had forgotten that we on-traded it to Port. The Tambling trade just keeps getting better and we may yet end up with a better outcome than Buddy! :pray
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Hardwick extension looms at Richmond
By Kim Hagdorn
Sports News First
14 March 2012 12:06PM EST
CONFIRMATION of an extension for Damien Hardwick as Richmond head coach looks imminent.
The Essendon and Port Adelaide premiership tough nut could be announced to continue as Tigers boss before the opening bounce of the new AFL premiership season.
Hardwick looks certain to be offered a new two-year deal to lead the youthful and emerging Tigers through until at least the end of 2014.
Hardwick, 39, is out of contract at the end of this season.
He is one of only three AFL coaches out of contract at the end of 2012, along with Gold Coast’s Guy McKenna and legendary former Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy who is in charge at new outfit Greater Western Sydney this year.
Hardwick looks set for an assurance of his security before the Tigers first home-and-away engagement of the 2012 season against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday March 29.
His impending extension gathered raging momentum when the Tigers demolished reigning champions Geelong by a hefty 59 points at Simonds Stadium in the NAB Cup fourth round.
Verification for Hardwick to stay at Richmond’s helm will also quash potential for speculation through AFL circles that decorated AFL coach and former Tigers premiership back man Mick Malthouse could take over next year.
Malthouse, 58, is out of coaching this season for the first time since 1984 and working in various media appointments.
The dual West Coast and 2010 Collingwood premiership coach will be continually linked with a possible move back to take over from Hardwick if the Tigers stumble in 2012 on the back of growing expectations that Richmond can press back into finals for the first time since 2001.
It is understood that announcement of Hardwick’s new agreement could be made in days leading into the big clash with the Blues later this month, which heralds a potentially daunting start to the new season for the Tigers.
The Tigers have Carlton, Collingwood, Melbourne, the Cats back in Geelong and West Coast through April to launch the new premiership campaign.
With May engagements against Port Adelaide, in Adelaide, Sydney, Essendon and Hawthorn all at the MCG and then St Kilda, Fremantle and Greater Western Sydney at Skoda Stadium before Richmond’s bye in Round 13, the Tigers could have a firm understanding on the finals prospects before the end of June.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/03/14/hardwick-extension-looms-at-richmond/
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More attempted media pressure to make the Tigers show their hand way too early.
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Ah Kimmy at it again but i reckon he has just about hit the bullseye here... :thumbsup
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Dimma has just got 2 more years.
Well done RFC!
Announced tonight at the season opener function. :cheers
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mmm Kim and i must have the same sauce, i know he loves his meat pies.
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Hardwick has already signed. Benny Gale is just taking the pee out of the lot of them. :clapping
Closer to the truth than alot of others imagined at the time. The decision to keep Hardwick was made a fair while ago. OER first with the big news!
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got a sneaky that it is similar with lids. wouldnt be surprised if we get that announced on the eve of our season opener
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After watching last nights game in particular our kick ins.opposition switching etc etc
This could be yet another mistake
We have spent a pre season doing what?
The kick ins were laughable
The way Carlton switched and rebounded was at ease
The club wants more money from supporters to bolster the footy department.what for?
They can't even implement a simple kick in strategy
Yep.just kick to a contest
Why would they give Dimma another 2 year extension is beyond belief
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After watching last nights game in particular our kick ins.opposition switching etc etc
This could be yet another mistake
We have spent a pre season doing what?
The kick ins were laughable
The way Carlton switched and rebounded was at ease
The club wants more money from supporters to bolster the footy department.what for?
They can't even implement a simple kick in strategy
Yep.just kick to a contest
Why would they give Dimma another 2 year extension is beyond belief
I truly hope your not right about Dimma. I hope to see some basic improvement in the team though. Starting with improved skill under pressure, structure down back especially during kick ins. Structure up forward with multliple different options of style if things aren't working for us on the day. And lastly some improved clearence work from stoppages starting with taps to advantage.
Obviously an overall improvement from the list especially our most senior guys.
Lastly I want to see is that when a coach says he won't pick a player unless he can win his own ball I expect to see evidence of this in selection.
2 years is enough time to see if these things work along with list management & player development.