One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 01, 2016, 11:08:23 PM
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30 "influential" Richmond people met last Wednesday at Malvern Hotel.
Discussed the merits of an EGM. Some were for it while others weren't keen on it.
Some of the attendees:
Steve? Mandy (son of David) .... only attended. Won't be involved in any coup.
Jason Dowd .... failed election candidate last year
Joe Russo .... failed election candidate last year.
Grievance over the make-up of the board and the tenure of directors. 6 of the 9 current directors have been there for 6+ years. A couple for over 10 years.
Caro disagreed that a board upheaval would solve Richmond's problems. She did agreed that some directors that had been there a long time should go.
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Pretty much spot on...... :shh
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Vote 1 Malvern Stars...
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This is the Rollercoaster group I believe.
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Caro disagreed that a board upheaval would solve Richmond's problems. She did agreed that some directors that had been there a long time should go.
Think Caro's on the money there. It won't instantly solve our problems imo.
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Keeping the current lot will compound our current problems.
Bring on the Special General Meeting.
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Keeping the current lot will compound our current problems.
Bring on the Special General Meeting.
Yep if the current board don't want a smooth transition then hopefully we go to an EGM.
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Were a mess nothing short of a circus with clowns running this club.
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
I dont know of any IS members who got the call...
And there is where i get ticled off... why was it so selective... shouldn't be like that
Jacks club members $ arent anymore important than Your dollars or mone or the person who ricks each week and sits up on level 4 because thats all they can afford
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I think my dollars ARE more important quite simply because I could spend it elsewhere :santa
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
I dont know of any IS members who got the call...
And there is where i get ticled off... why was it so selective... shouldn't be like that
Jacks club members $ arent anymore important than Your dollars or mone or the person who ricks each week and sits up on level 4 because thats all they can afford
Didn't want the press there
There were Inner Sanctum members there
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Did you register on the rollercoaster website to find out more?
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I think I can add some clarity to all this cloak and dagger stuff.
I was at a certain pub the other night with a fair few mates, I can't remember if there were thirty but we were under the influence. We were also talking about footy quite a lot, well until these really hot pair of girls walked in anyway.
There were also some non tiger supporters in the group as well but they still were vocal on the subject of the Tigers.
Will keep you all updated on developments if they aren't too top secret
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I think I can add some clarity to all this cloak and dagger stuff.
I was at a certain pub the other night with a fair few mates, I can't remember if there were thirty but we were under the influence. We were also talking about footy quite a lot, well until these really hot pair of girls walked in anyway.
There were also some non tiger supporters in the group as well but they still were vocal on the subject of the Tigers.
Will keep you all updated on developments if they aren't too top secret
Tipping wrong pub chucky
You weren't at the Malvern Hotel 😉
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
I dont know of any IS members who got the call...
And there is where i get ticled off... why was it so selective... shouldn't be like that
Jacks club members $ arent anymore important than Your dollars or mone or the person who ricks each week and sits up on level 4 because thats all they can afford
The revolution will not be televised. ;)
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
LMAO
and how many of these "influential" people actually have any experience in the running of a sports organisation or at least had experience sitting on a board of directors, or even a committee?
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My guess is circle jerking is probably their best qualification
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
LMAO
and how many of these "influential" people actually have any experience in the running of a sports organisation or at least had experience sitting on a board of directors, or even a committee?
You would/ will be very surprised
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My guess is circle jerking is probably their best qualification
Ah no
Influential people across media to high profile successful Business people who have the clubs best interests at heart
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Yeah Chuck we don't all sit in the circle jerk. Some of us can reach places that others can't ;)
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Yeah Chuck we don't all sit in the circle jerk. Some of us can reach places that others can't ;)
At least there is a group of passionate people who thinks enough is enough
Eg Signing Hardwick on 2 year contract ext
Benny Gales involvement at Board Level
Continual non achievement in the footy department as per two reviews in 2 years
Tony Free ? Where is he ?
It goes on and on unfortunately
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Plenty of 17 game adult members there
And 3121 club
LMAO
and how many of these "influential" people actually have any experience in the running of a sports organisation or at least had experience sitting on a board of directors, or even a committee?
You would/ will be very surprised
ohh, i like surprises. hope I dont have to wait till christmas for this one
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My guess is circle jerking is probably their best qualification
Ah no
Influential people across media to high profile successful Business people who have the clubs best interests at heart
Thats a relief.......that influential media and high profile business people have something other than personal power and gain in their genuine hearts.
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Yeah Chuck we don't all sit in the circle jerk. Some of us can reach places that others can't ;)
At least there is a group of passionate people who thinks enough is enough
Eg Signing Hardwick on 2 year contract ext
Benny Gales involvement at Board Level
Continual non achievement in the footy department as per two reviews in 2 years
Tony Free ? Where is he ?
It goes on and on unfortunately
That's right.
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Benny Gales involvement at Board Level
outside of you who I know voted against the constitution changes that allowed Benny to be on the board
I doubt there was 1 person at this get together who also voted against it. These influential smart business people either voted yes or didn't bother to vote at all
they can't complain about it when they did nothing to try and stop it...
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Benny Gales involvement at Board Level
outside of you who I know voted against the constitution changes that allowed Benny to be on the board
I doubt there was 1 person at this get together who also voted against it. These influential smart business people either voted yes or didn't bother to vote at all
they can't complain about it when they did nothing to try and stop it...
Will say this
The night we voted against it I felt intimidated
By memory 7 hands went up
And you are correct , the 7 hands that went up, only one was present last week
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Tigers board facing coup
Caroline Wilson
The Age
3 August 2016
A prominent group of disgruntled Richmond supporters are planning a bloodless coup, targeting at least five long-serving Tiger board members, including president Peggy O'Neal, in their bid to reshape the club's board and future football direction.
The group, which has not ruled out calling for a spill of the entire board, met last Wednesday night at the Malvern Hotel, with a core group meeting again on Monday in a city office with a view to pushing for a meeting with the club.
Members of long-standing Richmond families, including the Mandies, the Silks, the Ralphs and the Clemengers, attended the Malvern Hotel dinner along with former club orthopedic surgeon Hayden Morris, doctor David Marsh, private investor Peter Capp, IT executive Leon Davies, senior legal partner Guy O'Connor and businessman Guy Nelson.
Joe Russo, who unsuccessfully challenged for the Richmond board last year, addressed the dinner, along with his fellow candidate Jason Dowd and senior client adviser Damien Silk who attended the meeting with his brother Luke.
While not all those at the dinner will push forward with the stated attempt to force the removal of more than half the board, Fairfax Media understands they were largely united in their disaffection with the stale nature of the Richmond board, four of whom have been at the helm of the club for more than a decade. A key question mark hung over the due diligence involved in the decision to reappoint coach Damien Hardwick until the end of 2018.
One strong view was that director Malcolm Speed, who had been mooted as a likely successor to Gary March but failed to garnish the numbers, could be an alternative president.
While not all were comfortable with the prospect of ousting the AFL's only female president, they remained determined to target all those appointees who came on board before 2007: vice-president Maurice O'Shannassy (like O'Neal a 2004 appointee), John Matthies (2004) and Rob Dalton (2004). The group is also targeting former Richmond captain and club director Tony Free (2008).
(http://www.smh.com.au/cqstatic/12z7v7/under_threat.jpg)
Stephen Mandie, the son of the late Richmond patron and life member David Mandie, urged the group to avoid at all costs calling for an extrordinary general meeting. Mandie, whose sister Evelyn Danos is Richmond's No.1 female ticketholder, has offered to act as a middle man between the group and the board and CEO Brendon Gale.
Mandie was part of the Monday meeting along with Peter Capp and Leon Davies. The group has engaged legal firm Maddocks to investigate details of the Richmond Football Club constitution. While most remain hopeful they can peacefully bring about change they remain confident they have the numbers required to force an EGM.
Davies recently told Fairfax Media he did not want a seat on the board. Stressing the push was not a personal attack on the board, insisting there were "very good people" in power, he expressed concern about a lack of diversity. Davies noted the board included five lawyers and two accountants, while also stressing that four directors had sat for for more than a decade.
Russo, who has not yet indicated whether he will challenge for a board position, is engaging with key Richmond stakeholders and has told the group he has met club legend Kevin Bartlett over the past week.
Key members of the group would not confirm which candidates among them they planned to put forward as alternative board members. Last week's dinner saw at least three former Richmond players mentioned as potential candidates for the role of football director. Orthopedic surgeon Morris, a key potential candidate, has indicated he would only stand for the board if asked and would not challenge.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-facing-bloodless-coup-by-prominent-tigers-backers-20160802-gqjixd.html
Pretty accurate summation of the meeting... :shh
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-facing-bloodless-coup-by-prominent-tigers-backers-20160802-gqjixd.html
Pretty accurate summation of the meeting... :shh
Very accurate 😉👍
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Davies noted the board included five lawyers and two accountants, while also stressing that four directors had sat for for more than a decade.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :chuck
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Davies noted the board included five lawyers and two accountants, while also stressing that four directors had sat for for more than a decade.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :chuck
Imagine the jokes cracked in the boardroom!!!!! :lol
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Lolz.
What do u call 5 lawyers lying face down in the Richmond board room.
A good start.
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If you were stuck in a room with five lawyers and five murderers and had an automatic pistol with 10 bullets what would you do?
You'd shoot each lawyer twice! :lol
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Replacing a bunch of nobodies with another bunch of nobodies. No wonder things never improve
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Don't think this is the case this time
PM me 1980
You will be very surprised who is involved
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Feel we've been here before ;D
the more things change the more they stay the same
30 "influential" people... wonder what makes them supposedly "influential" . :huh :huh :huh ..their collective bank balances? Any members who hold a 11 game membership get invited? Are they not influential too???
Replacing a bunch of nobodies with another bunch of nobodies. No wonder things never improve
And who is a somebody? What's the definition of a somebody? I've heard of all of those mentioned, so to me they are not nobodies. Is it your fault maybe that you haven't heard of them?
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
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A somebody looks at themself in the mirror every morning and says,
"YOU are somebody"
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Yep good progress being made. Well done to those involved. Seems a smooth transition is what they are after with the best interests of the club at heart. Seems there's some good richmond people involved
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Don't think this is the case this time
PM me 1980
You will be very surprised who is involved
Is Rex a member yet? :rollin
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A somebody looks at themself in the mirror every morning and says,
"YOU are somebody"
As opposed to "You are a fantastic person"? :snidegrin
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
Atleast with Mick Molloy the board room will be a laugh a minute rather than being laughed at every minute as it is currently. :rollin
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
Atleast with Mick Molloy the board room will be a laugh a minute rather than being laughed at every minute as it is currently. :rollin
It ain't Mick
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Fantastic!
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Also well done to Leon Davies and his rollercoaster to nowhere website for playing a part in this development.
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
Its Don Burke
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It's Sonia Kreuger :snidegrin
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
Its Don Burke
Lol at your avatar
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
Its Don Burke
Denise Drysedale :rollin
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No it's Russell Coight
Lol
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Does it in any way involve Don Burke?
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And a major TV personality involved who is hardly a nobody
Not sporting
😉
Its Don Burke
Denise Drysedale :rollin
Or Kath (from Kath n Kim)
(https://s32.postimg.org/75wyb5q4l/image.jpg)
:clapping
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Will say this
The night we voted against it I felt intimidated
By memory 7 hands went up
And you are correct , the 7 hands that went up, only one was present last week
You felt intimidated but you still voted
And I don''t remember 7 hands going, remember 3 and the rest of the room the sheep, all out their collecitve hands up for Yes
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Joe Russo, prominent Richmond supporter, considering board tilt if right people join him
JON ANDERSON
Herald Sun
August 3, 2016
RICHMOND backer and agitator, property developer Joe Russo, said he would not rule out a future tilt at the Tigers board.
Russo, 45, who unsuccessfully challenged for the board last year along with another independent Jason Dowd, has been linked with further action in light of Richmond’s diabolical on-field season.
“I’ve been approached by a lot of people who want change, parties wanting me to form a five-six person ticket,” Russo told the Herald Sun.
“And if the right calibre people come to me, then I will seriously consider it (another board challenge).
“I accept it has to be done in a constructive manner, where we could work with the current board and implement a change of suitable numbers to make a meaningful impact.
“It’s no use waiting for the AGM and changing two seats on the board because that isn’t going to make any difference. And it will be too late.
“The board has four members who have been there for 10 years or longer, which to me is too long because it naturally breeds complacency.
“What is the club doing? They have appointed Ernst Young to conduct a review which to me is nothing more than window dressing.”
Russo has made it known he has no desire to become president of the club and would not be drawn on his view of current president Peggy O’Neal nor coach Damien Hardwick.
The signatures of 5 per cent of Richmond members eligible to vote would be required to force an extraordinary general meeting. That would mean winning the backing of about 2500 people.
Board elections do not normally attract huge voting turnouts, with less than 5000 people voting last year when Russo (1153 votes) and Jason Dowd (796) unsuccessfully challenged sitting members Maurice O’Shannassy (3876) and Rex Chadwick (3617).
Russo said his action last year was driven by frustration after three failed straight elimination final exits.
“I stand by a lot of the comments I made last year, and it’s more obvious than ever that there needs to be an injection of fresh blood at board level,” Russo said.
Russo is a 21-year member of the Tigers and sponsors the club’s VFL team and has also contributing more than $1 million to Richmond’s Fighting Fund.
Russo is the principal of Caydon Property Group, which is developing the Nylex site in Cremorne.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/joe-russo-prominent-richmond-supporter-considering-board-tilt-if-right-people-join-him/news-story/389e655f313ef1032dff956daf63e4de
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I will be backing this spill the whole way. Anyone who supported extending Softwick by 2 years with no KPIs has to go. It's one of the worst decisions in this clubs history. Stuff me most of us worked out he couldn't coach after the elim final loss to Carlton and that sooks like Grigg and Lids needed to be traded then.
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As I have said for many many years
that people that hold positions at the RFC don't actually know what they are doing
Some think I am sour grapes , I think not
Francis Jackson ,Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley think they have an idea, but reality and facts say they haven't
Zero
Don't rate Brendan Lade either
Job for the boys there
Hopefully he comes up to 3121 on Friday Night as I have a great question for him
😉
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So what's the proposed plan then, the current board has had a good business plan, it's the recruiting and development that sub par. Logic not emotion will be needed in the coming months.
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So what's the proposed plan then, the current board has had a good business plan, it's the recruiting and development that sub par. Logic not emotion will be needed in the coming months.
Current board oh dear
They are an active bunch aren't they
If it wasn't for the large membership , generous sponsors , TV rights , Government Grants and AFL handouts
We would be stuffed
Many forget the role that one Richard Tambling had in presenting to Canberra to gain the funding for ME Bank Centre etc
Think the current board have approved decisions that have caused the downhill slide of the footy side
Extending contracts
And incompetent senior staff
Enough said
Dan Richardson perfect example
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l'm at the stage l don't care anymore. l seen a lot over many decades & you don't have to be a scientist of football to know that RFC failed with appointing assistant coaches who have no experience at all apart from Chocco. If you going to hire people who have no experience then the players will not advance to higher levels. Basic skills are shocking. Speed, Strength, Foot, Hand, Tackle, Sheppard, timing, medical, recovery, mental, all not there. You can change the board room 10 times it will not improve what is happening on the oval. There is a need to remove the Port Adelaide out of the club quickly
One thing l will add is its not fitness these jerks are missing. Its the players are over worked because of the game plan. They are chasers from the first bounce every game day standing off their opponents by 5 - 10 metres. The ball goes over their head & they chase. Man up you have more strength to use your skills & you don't get over worked by running around chasing like a goose :snidegrin
if none of them coaches can't work that out then RFC may as well go into liquidation :snidegrin
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Ok so how does Don Burke fit in then?
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One thing l will add is its not fitness these jerks are missing. Its the players are over worked because of the game plan. They are chasers from the first bounce every game day standing off their opponents by 5 - 10 metres. The ball goes over their head & they chase. Man up you have more strength to use your skills & you don't get over worked by running around chasing like a goose :snidegrin
if none of them coaches can't work that out then RFC may as well go into liquidation :snidegrin
You talk like we are the only team that plays zone?
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Yeah Chuck we don't all sit in the circle jerk. Some of us can reach places that others can't ;)
At least there is a group of passionate people who thinks enough is enough
Eg Signing Hardwick on 2 year contract ext
Benny Gales involvement at Board Level
Continual non achievement in the footy department as per two reviews in 2 years
Tony Free ? Where is he ?
It goes on and on unfortunately
Don't have to tell me. I was there ;)
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Lol at this being top of the news :gotigers
"30 guys had a beer in Malvern and said Richmond were Shyte"
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Lol at this being top of the news :gotigers
"30 guys had a beer in Malvern and said Richmond were Shyte"
Mate at least we knew a week before the press and you , and only those who PM me last week knew
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You sir are a true hero
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Lol at this being top of the news :gotigers
"30 guys had a beer in Malvern and said Richmond were Shyte"
Mate at least we knew a week before the press and you , and only those who PM me last week knew
Do you feel special? Priveledged? That's what this is all about after all.
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keep the info coming son, :thumbsup especially when peggy sue and benny fail are sent packing.
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You sir are a true hero
Well thank you
Hero status fits well with me
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :thumbsup
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Lol at this being top of the news :gotigers
"30 guys had a beer in Malvern and said Richmond were Shyte"
Mate at least we knew a week before the press and you , and only those who PM me last week knew
Do you feel special? Priveledged? That's what this is all about after all.
Dooks if you weren't a smart Alec
I would of PM you
But what's the point
You bag me with every post
Leave you out in the wilderness I think
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keep the info coming son, :thumbsup especially when peggy sue and benny fail are sent packing.
Mail is that Benny is " eyeing off "the soon to be vacant MCC job
You won't see that in the press
Then again you might in the next few days 😉😉😉😉😉
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Rock star in your own bath tub
I'll pm u a picture of my dogs butt
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Lol at this being top of the news :gotigers
"30 guys had a beer in Malvern and said Richmond were Shyte"
Mate at least we knew a week before the press and you , and only those who PM me last week knew
Do you feel special? Priveledged? That's what this is all about after all.
Dooks if you weren't a smart Alec
I would of PM you
But what's the point
You bag me with every post
Leave you out in the wilderness I think
Just call it as i see it.
Not everyone gets along all the time. Dont lose sleep.
Ill let you think Im in the wilderness and maintain my integrity. Everyones a winner.
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Rock star in your own bath tub
I'll pm u a picture of my dogs butt
You will never get told anything
🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
You have life time ban
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Lol
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Lol at this being top of the news :gotigers
"30 guys had a beer in Malvern and said Richmond were Shyte"
:lol
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
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Ok ok.
Thats all very well and good.
But what the hell has Don Burke got to do with it?
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
:lol :lol
The Nylex Clock says hello ;D
:rollin
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
wouldnt be the first time. we need stability Jack thats what we need etc etc.
I wonder if the ones who scoffed at him 6 months ago will now change their mind about the current board especially the 2 clowns at the top
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keep the info coming son, :thumbsup especially when peggy sue and benny fail are sent packing.
Mail is that Benny is " eyeing off "the soon to be vacant MCC job
You won't see that in the press
Then again you might in the next few days 😉😉😉😉😉
Incorrect in a big way
The Benny to the MCC rumour has been in the press for close to a month now..SEN, The Age, The HUN... list goes on
Its certainly been in the "press" in a big way
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Richmond board aspirant Joe Russo linked to underworld associate
Caroline Wilson and Nick McKenzie
The Age
4 August 2016
Richmond board aspirant Joe Russo has close ties to underworld associate John Khoury, the business partner of Mick Gatto.
Property developer Mr Russo, who has now moved to join forces with a group of prominent and disenchanted Tiger supporters, is understood to have used Mr Khoury to settle building industry disputes.
Mr Russo, who has unofficially mentored senior Richmond players interested in property, has been cut loose by the club after sponsoring the Tigers' VFL team to the tune of $150,000 a year.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale recently wrote to Mr Russo officially placing an end to the financial arrangement at the close of season 2016. Mr Russo, who failed in a bid to join the board in 2015, has contributed $150,000 annually to the club.
Key members of the group behind the push for a bloodless coup at Tigerland were scheduled to meet Mr Russo again on Wednesday night although Fairfax Media understands a level of nervousness has arisen regarding Mr Russo's suitability to be part of a rival ticket.
Questions have also been raised about club agitator IT executive Leon Davies, who connected Mr Russo with members of long-standing Richmond families including the Mandies, the Ralphs and the Silks who were at the Malvern Hotel last Wednesday night.
Mr Davies shared anti-Muslim posts on his Facebook page. The posts date from October 2015 through until last month but have since been removed.
Mr Davies confirmed he had shared the Facebook posts but denied this was racially motivated. "This has nothing to do with religion and I'd be disappointed if it was seen that way," he said. "I've got friends who are Muslims."
Mr Russo addressed the group of about 25 disenchanted supporters at the Malvern Hotel and also presented some key figures with the Gale letter which informed Mr Russo his financial support to the club was no longer required.
In a set of relationships which AFL insiders say poses questions about his fitness to become a club director Mr Russo not only has ties to Mr Khoury, who was a member of the Mick Gatto-led Carlton Crew, but many of Melbourne's underworld identities.
Several years ago, the Purana gangland taskforce was told by a credible witness that Mr Russo had used Mr Khoury to demand a Melbourne architecture firm settle a financial dispute on terms favourable to Mr Russo.
It was not alleged that any laws were broken, but Mr Khoury's presence at a meeting to discuss the financial dispute was viewed dimly by police. Multiple sources confirmed that Mr Russo has used Mr Khoury as a consultant.
Mr Russo dismissed this, stating that while he had a childhood association with Mr Khoury, he has never had any business dealings with him.
Mr Gatto, Mr Khoury and another Gatto associate Tom Karas have all denied financial links to Mr Russo and his Caydon Developments.
Mr Khoury was also named in a 2003 Australian Crime Commission report as a person who regularly associates with organised crime identities.
Since 2011, Mr Russo has been a director of at least 38 companies, all linked to developments around Melbourne. Last December, Fairfax Media reported Victorian Building Authority investigations into his previous projects, including findings in 2014 by Boroondara Council's municipal surveyor on a Hawthorn apartment block built by Mr Russo's companies.
The council found a series of serious fire safety and other faults with the building, which the owners' corporation paid about $1.4 million to resolve.
Richmond president Peggy O'Neal, one of the five directors targeted by the group, has indicated she has no plans to step aside although she revealed recently that the Tigers were looking at introducing fixed terms for board members.
Ms O'Neal, long-serving director John Mathies and lawyer Kerry Ryan are all up for re-election at the end of the season with Mathies at least one director expected to step down.
Refusing to respond on Wednesday to reports of a board challenge, Ms O'Neal recently told club members that the board had was undergoing a business review undertaken by consultants the Hay Group.
The Tigers president, who has authorised a soon-to-be-completed Ernst and Young review into Richmond's football operation, has indicated she wishes to remain at the helm at least until the end of 2017. She is scheduled to end her silence regarding board agitators in radio interviews before Friday night's clash with Collingwood.
with Chris Vedelago
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-aspirant-joe-russo-linked-to-underworld-associate-20160803-gqkar2.html
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Might be movement at the station
Hadn't seen it in press
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
wouldnt be the first time. we need stability Jack thats we need etc etc.
I wonder if the ones who scoffed at him 6 months ago will now change their mind about the current board especially the 2 clowns at the top
Clearly in part directed at me
I still scoff at him
I have no issue with new faces on the board; actually needs to happen but he is not one of those people I want to see on the board
Is it at all lost in you that he only got 1000+ votes last year out of over 5000, surely that says something. I know Joe doesn't wish to acknowledge that but that is a fact.
And BTW his interview in today's HUN yet again proves why I don't want this bloke on the board
Dowd on the other hand (who also ran last year) would have him on the board in a instant, excellent credentials (and yes I did vote for him because I was impressed with what he stood for and his ideas).
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-aspirant-joe-russo-linked-to-underworld-associate-20160803-gqkar2.html
That didn't take long to discredit the coup
Surprise Surprise
Club getting dirty now which doesn't surprise
Caro doing the story smells as well
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-aspirant-joe-russo-linked-to-underworld-associate-20160803-gqkar2.html
That didn't take long to discredit the coup
Surprise Surprise
Club getting dirty now which doesn't surprise
Caro doing the story smells as well
Sorry but this is old news as well.
Comments were floated about this when he lost last year. He wants to paint himself as some sort of saviour he has to expect the media are going to dig to find a story. We sell papers, and this was always going to happen
I ask you this - is there any part of the "story" that isn't accurate?
the Nylex clock again says "Hello'
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LMAO
Our players have closer connections to 'underworld' figures
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Dowd and Morris to replace Mathies and Ryan. :shh
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Funny, the board seems to be functional to me , apart from not leading the way for cultural changes within the club, (think modern day Graeme Richmond.)
They are guilty by association though,as the recruiting and coaching has issues, which they may be addressing.
In context we performed badly in one game which would hardly prompt the requirements for sweeping changes.
I would like to see what changes are proposed and what is taking place before I pass judgement.
Now is not the time to make emotional decisions but logical ones. I hope Richmond have a plan that is well thought out and Implemented .
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Richmond board must show us its vision for 2017, says Bartlett
Linda Pearce, Larissa Nicholson
The Age
4 August 2016
Richmond legend and vocal media commentator Kevin Bartlett said on Wednesday he supported the contentious pre-season decision to extend Damien Hardwick's contract for another two years, but said he would not "take sides" in any political stoush.
Tigers forward Jack Riewoldt called for calm after his team's devastating loss to GWS on the weekend, while former Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse said the intense pressure Hardwick faced would not help Richmond play better.
But a group calling themselves the Richmond Rollercoaster has established a website asking Tigers members and fans to support major change at the club.
Bartlett said like every Richmond member, he wanted to hear how the board had viewed the 2016 season.
"What is the clear direction from the board? Or what is the clear direction from a new group that actually wants to challenge?" he said.
Bartlett said he was unaware whether Hardwick featured in the disgruntled supporters' plans, but did not expect that any coup would be – as the would-be challengers apparently hope – "bloodless".
Nor would current president Peggy O'Neal remain in charge should any challenge be successful, Bartlett said, while adding that suggestions former cricket administrator Malcolm Speed was the leading candidate to replace O'Neal had "never been articulated".
"I don't believe any of the agitating group ... see themselves as being president. I think what they see themselves (as) are people coming in with new and fresh ideas. Now if it goes to a vote, that's going to be up to the voting members of the Richmond Football Club to decide whether or not they can see what direction this particular group may want to take..."
As anticipation mounts about a potential overthrow of the board and the future of Richmond's football staff is called into question, Riewoldt told AFL 360 that Hardwick had had just one bad year in the top job.
"All I can say to them is we're not playing Fantasy Football, you don't trade people in or get rid of people, week in, week out, you can't get rid of a good person and then hopefully have him back in two weeks," he said.
"I think the commentary about trading some of our better players is exactly that and I think the coach comes under that as well."
Mick Malthouse, a former Richmond premiership player who was sacked as Carlton's coach during the 2015 season, also weighed in when asked about the pressure building on Hardwick.
"Is it unfair? Well, I define fair as nothing to do with sport, in this instance," he said on SEN radio.
"What I do say is that we're very quick to point the gun at one person, but let me assure every listener that it's not only the coach who gets it in the neck here."
Malthouse said the scrutiny Richmond faced would be reflected in their on-field performances.
"It never improves the input and it only detracts from the style and the way the players want to play," he said.
"So stand by, because it will not be good football over the next month for coaches that are under pressure, because the players also feel it."
A letter purportedly from IT executive Leon Davies, part of a prominent group of Richmond supporters planning a board coup, is doing the rounds saying fans were concerned their club was accepting mediocrity.
The letter said change must come from the top.
"Stability has led to complacency and the acceptance of below par performances in all areas of the Richmond football club," it said.
Bartlett referenced chief executive Brendon Gale's ambitious five-year plan, which was drafted after Gale's arrival in 2009, to more than double membership to 75,000, clear its multimillion-dollar debt and play finals three times by 2014.
"That was a great dream and it proved correct — except winning a flag," Bartlett said. "It was a bold prediction at the time, and virtually all those boxes got ticked and, as a result, Richmond members believed in the dream, and came on board.
"At the end of this season, the present board, or the new board, has to actually explain what the dream is for the members to sign up in 2017? What is the direction of the club?"
As to the impact of more dismal performances on next year's membership, Bartlett said if Richmond continued to lose by 60-80 points in the remaining rounds and did not show sufficient cohesion, effort and competitiveness, that it would have "a massive effect" on the support levels in 2017.
"This (Friday's) game against Collingwood is a massive game," he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-board-must-show-us-its-vision-for-2017-says-tigers-great-kevin-bartlett-20160803-gqjw5v.html
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Richmond board is not the issue here
Rohan Connolly
The Age
4 August 2016
“I’m not questioning the motives of the people who are talking about challenging the board but I must admit I was thinking, oh God are we going back 30 years again?” said Connolly.
“When the solution to on-field lack of performance is to shake up the board.
“I mean how many people involved with challenging the board would be able to really articulate weaknesses of that board and the individuals on it?
“The problems that are at Richmond aren’t necessarily a reflection on the board.
“They’re in a really difficult position every way you look at it, look at their list – in terms of currency do they really have a lot to play with?”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/08-16/rohan-connolly-talks-blues-and-tigers#0YXFeRZdOfrQWc5q.97
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Fairfax Media has details of the rebel Richmond group. They are concerned at the club's on-field performance, senior list management and re-signing of Hardwick on a two-year, $1.2m contract.
The rebels
Stephen Mandie
Mr Mandie's family also has longstanding ties with the club. His father, duty-free retail giant, David Mandie, had been a club benefactor for more than 80 years.
Leon Davies
Mr Davies is an advertising and marketing man. He is currently the director of operations at a digital marketing and software solutions company.
Damien Silk
Mr Silk is well known in the city's financial services sector. His family has longstanding ties with the Tigers.
Joe Russo
Mr Russo is a property developer and has been a board member for more than 20 years. His name was also tossed around last year during talks of another leadership challenge at the board.
Hayden Morris
Mr Morris is an orthopaedic surgeon well known in football circles and is a consultant at the Richmond club.
Richmond board members in rebels' sights
Peggy O'Neal (president): Ms O'Neal joined the board on November 12 2005 and was elected president in 2013, becoming AFL's first female club president. She took over from Gary March. She is a lawyer and was a consultant to the federal government during its review of the superannuation system.
Maurice O'Shannassy (vice-president): Mr O'Shannassy is a chair of a financial services company and has been in the finance sector for more than 25 years. He has been a club board member since 2004. Mr O'Shannassy contested the ballot for the role of president in 2013.
Robert Dalton: appointed to the board in 2004. He is a senior partner at accounting firm Ernst and Young for 20 years. He is also the chair of Hockey Victoria.
Tony Free: Mr Free was appointed to the board in 2008. He is a former VFL and AFL player for the Richmond club between 1987 and 1996.
John Matthies: Mr Matties was elected to the board in 2004. He is a lawyer and an aged-care entrepreneur, the managing director of the Australian Aged Care group.
Other board members
Malcolm Speed: A form Australian and world cricket boss, Mr Speed was appointed to the board in October 2011. He contested the ballot for the role of president in 2013. He is a former barrister.
Rex Chadwick: Mr Chadwick was appointed to the board in 2009. He is a the director of Chadwick Merchandising.
Kerry Ryan: Ms Ryan was appointed to the board in 2013. She has more than 20 years experience as a commercial lawyer and is a former partner of Norton Rose Fulbright.
John O'Rourke: Mr O'Rourke joined the board in November 2015. He is the founder and chair of Plenary Group,a developer, investor and manager of infrastructure projects with businesses in Australia, Canada and the United States. He is also a director and honorary treasurer of the Victoria Racing Club.
- with NEELIMA CHAOHAN
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-whos-behind-the-richmond-tigers-coup-plot-20160802-gqjh25.html
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Peggy's time as lameduck president is up. Let's face it she got the job because the board was divided over 2 more highly qualified candidates. Her landmark achievement at the club will be getting us a couple of soft draws that escorted us into the finals. Ironically, this has ended up making the club worse off, as it's made us think we are better than we are. This is some feat- boards these days are very limited in how they influence on field affairs. The AFL has turned club boards into little sucklings who have to jostle for position for a bit of milk.
Anyhow standing on a ticket that instills Malcolm Speed as the president is a clever political maneuver and probably the smartest play made at the club this year.
Should the property developer get a go on the board? Depends...how much money has he got?
I ask you this - is there any part of the "story" that isn't accurate?
Nick McKenzie is probably the best investigative journalist in town, but in the end, he's got nothing on him. Or Khoury for that matter. The rest of it is muckraking by Caro on behalf of the board.
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Trouble in Tigerland as it all falls apart
Caroline Wilson
The Age
4 August 2016
This is not a happy time for the Richmond Football Club. Every leader at Tigerland is under pressure as the team moves into the glare of the headlights against Collingwood on Friday night at the MCG.
Damien Hardwick's position cannot be truly guaranteed should further sub-par performances unfold. At least three of his assistants have now been warned of dismissal and a number of players including one-time first-round draft picks are facing the axe.
Brendon Gale's solid reputation, built up over seven years of significantly improved off-field results, now hangs on the manner in which he steadies what is an increasingly shaky ship. Peggy O'Neal has frustrated commentators by her public silence this week but reportedly is more determined than ever to remain as president of the club while other long-serving directors are considering their positions.
Richmond has become a stable operation and perhaps erred too far on the side of stability but it cannot revert to the old script now. However some well-credentialed and genuine Richmond people were among the 25 who were summoned to the crowded front dining room one week ago at the Malvern Hotel.
They deserve an audience with club leaders and should push for that in the coming days rather than fuel the uncertainty and threat of bloodshed. Hopefully names like Robert Ralph and Peter Capp and Damien Silk and Stephen Mandie will be among the emissaries to reach a mutual understanding of where change will come and how they can contribute.
But they must cut Joe Russo loose. The property developer, his connections and proposed methods to force change at the club make for an unacceptable combination. Ditto Leon Davies, whose online campaign of disenchantment against the club initially made sense and drew interest from some of the club's more reputable and high profile supporters.
But Davies' unfortunate decision to share some anti-burka inspired Facebook posts damage his credibility at a time he calls for diversity on the Tigers' board. It was Davies who appears to have brought the group of medical, legal and business – and some and high profile Old Xaverians – Richmond faithful together with Russo.
Club leaders are furious at the backroom plotting and the suggestion of football's most destructive scenario – a potential board challenge. Whether it be in the form of a bloodless coup or an extraordinary general meeting any form of political infighting cannot help the club as it seeks to improve its playing list after two successive fruitless trade periods.
Such uncertainty cannot help on-field performance for what has proved over a long period of time to be a fragile group of players under pressure and scrutiny. A group that has too many who too often put the individual before the team.
Particularly when recruiters and coaches around them are facing job losses and all concerned are awaiting the results of a thorough review the club attempted to keep private but will surely expose a cultural malaise at Richmond that successive administrations have been unable to heal despite more than three decades of trying.
But O'Neal and Gale and the Richmond board and executive should not be dismissive nor surprised by the agitators. The club's football operation has failed dismally this year and supporters have every right to be disappointed in the performances of the club's list managers, coaches, players and recruiters.
Not once in 18 games has a truly commanding performance been delivered by a football side that won 15 games last season and only just missed the top four before failing again in September.
These supporters have followed a team that has not had success for 35 years and yet has turned up and signed in significantly better numbers than most other clubs.
Gale and his team sold them a vision and they climbed aboard. Now they feel as though they are drowning again.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmonds-uncertain-times-the-pressure-is-on-everyone-at-the-tigers-20160803-gqkhe8.html
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Caro,
Pick a side.
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Lol wonder if the club will return all that dirty money they received from russo. Also surprised gale and peggy allowed kingy to put on a rfc jumper while he was hanging out with toby. Lol at anti burka smear campaign.
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The club can't even play dirty politics with conviction. Lmao
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Funny, the board seems to be functional to me , apart from not leading the way for cultural changes within the club, (think modern day Graeme Richmond.)
They are guilty by association though,as the recruiting and coaching has issues, which they may be addressing.
In context we performed badly in one game which would hardly prompt the requirements for sweeping changes.
I would like to see what changes are proposed and what is taking place before I pass judgement.
Now is not the time to make emotional decisions but logical ones. I hope Richmond have a plan that is well thought out and Implemented .
You say we have performed badly in " one game "
You serious ?
Been terrible all year
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Richmond board aspirant Joe Russo defends relationship with alleged underworld figure
Jon Anderson
Herald Sun
August 4, 2016
MELBOURNE property developer and Richmond Football Club board aspirant Joe Russo has strongly denied any form of impropriety in the face of allegations he has close ties to alleged underworld figure John Khoury.
Russo, 45, admits to having known Khoury for 35 years since buying bread and milk from his family milk bar in Thomastown.
“What do you want me to do? Mum would send me down to buy the bread and milk and John would be behind the counter,” Russo said.
“There’s no question that I’ve known him for a long time.
“And John is a business partner and friend of Mick Gatto. I welcome any form of investigation in terms of my relationship with them.
“My relationship with them came up in the past when the Australian Financial Review went very hard in an investigation. They found nothing. I’ve never been arrested, I don’t have a criminal record but if you want me guilty by association, then you’ve got me there.
“The allegation is I used John Khoury in a meeting to negotiate something. That’s not true. I can’t help being childhood friends with someone growing up in Thomastown because let me tell you, you wanted to be friends with the tough guys and not fight them because I sure as hell wasn’t fighter.
“Yes, I know the guys but I don’t hang out with them.”
A promised challenge for the Richmond board is growing more likely by the day following another meeting late Wednesday between a dissatisfied group of influential Richmond members.
Russo said he would do what he believes is best.
“I’m considering my position because I don’t want to hurt the football club or the credible people who are discussing forming a ticket,” he said.
“To do the right thing by everybody I will be fighting it (allegations) personally.
“Certain people try to hurt you which is part of a well-orchestrated smear campaign that has been running for a while now. Good luck to them but it will come to nothing because I’m guilty of nothing.
“Just as long as there is change at a club that desperately requires it. I never wanted to be president or go on some ego trip, I just want the right people to make the right decisions and help our club become great again.”
It’s believed at Wednesday night’s meeting Russo was advised to defend his name after a report linked him to Khoury. Russo unsuccessfully stood for the Richmond board last year and has since maintained his desire for a regeneration at a club that has stagnated on-field in 2016.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-board-aspirant-joe-russo-defends-relationship-with-alleged-underworld-figure/news-story/4e65315ecd96548b01d54f39e843fae4
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When the time comes for serious action, Richmond powerbrokers go missing, writes Jon Anderson
JON ANDERSON
Herald Sun
August 4, 2016
FOR all their Machiavellian scheming, today’s wannabe Richmond powerbrokers are largely a bunch of faceless people lacking the intestinal fortitude to lay it on the line.
They are happy to play power games behind the scenes but when the time comes for serious action they go missing, worried their egos will be dented by failure, or they will no longer be able to swan around the rooms in their Burberry trench coats.
The only one to date who has had a crack is Joe Russo, the 45-year-old property magnate who challenged for the board last year.
When Russo stood he was the victim of a smear campaign that received extremely vocal and written support from one influential media commentator, despite that person having never met him.
Russo now understands it goes with the territory.
His personality is one that wants things done quickly — yesterday if possible.
The AFL world doesn’t move so quickly, yet clubs such as the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda haven shown development can be fast-tracked.
Their success, and the fact that Melbourne, Collingwood and even Carlton arguably offer better 2017 futures, is naturally galling to Tiger fans. Or maybe many of them, and they don’t lack numbers, have been beaten into accepting mediocrity.
And mediocre at best is what their club has been since playing in and losing the 1982 Grand Final. In fact no Victorian club can get anywhere near their two wins from just five finals appearances in 34 years.
It would seem the perfect storm in terms of a board challenge, although talk to date has largely swayed away from an extraordinary general meeting.
The factions — there are more than one — do not seek a total wipe-out of the board, rather an orderly succession that would see up to five changes, including president Peggy O’Neal out.
That could then pave the way for Malcolm Speed to inherit the presidency that he coveted three years ago.
A website set up as a call-to-arms, “Richmond Rollercoaster Ride to Nowhere” urges support for change but offers no concrete plan. Plenty of bluster, yes, but that has never been in short supply when it comes to Richmond board politics.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/when-the-time-comes-for-serious-action-richmond-powerbrokers-go-missing-writes-jon-anderson/news-story/95ba7eab87d6809aa4191f324694d71b
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I'd really like the current board to articulate what they are doing to create a brighter future for this club.
That's the real issue.
The reality is that those 5 pillars (not memorable, vague and lacking measures) have never been subsequently followed up.
3-0-75, you can bag it but it's easy to recall and guess what?
Because it had measures, those at the club did their level best to achieve it.
The people running the club and sitting on the board are in a far better position to assess, decide what to do and then communicate to the masses than any challengers but they haven't.
10 years or 10 minutes - that is the behaviour of complacency.
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Not sure what anderson is trying to say.
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Not sure what anderson is trying to say.
Agree. The faceless men are all over the media....
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Not sure what anderson is trying to say.
Agree. The faceless men are all over the media....
Lol. Lacking intestinal fortitude to lay it on the line? Yet they are mounting a challenge.
With my low IQ I should have got into journalism.
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Articles lack any credibility until they have more winky faces.
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Ok so we have some factions forming...Old Xaverians, Thomastown mobsters and the current board. Jon Anderson sounds scared and confused LOL
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
wouldnt be the first time. we need stability Jack thats what we need etc etc.
I wonder if the ones who scoffed at him 6 months ago will now change their mind about the current board especially the 2 clowns at the top
what one thinks of russo has nothing to do with what they think of the current board.
just because someone thinks Russo offered nothing, is not an endorsement of the current board.
Only a simpleton would link the two things together in the belief that not endorsing one is an automatic endorsement of the other.
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Richmond board challenge, online petition closed down after excess number of signatures obtained
Tom Morris and Tiarne Swerksy
Foxsports
4 August 2016
AN ONLINE petition created to drive change at Richmond board level has been closed down, after the number of signatures obtained significantly exceeded the amount required to call an Extraordinary General Meeting.
At least 1000 Richmond members and supporters signed the petition — well in excess of the 100 signatures needed to call an EGM and 200 to attend it.
According to a statement on the now closed website, the petition “achieved what we wanted”, with the focus subsequently shifting to identifying a “group that is serious about challenging for positions on the board”.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the website, known as the ‘Richmond Rollercoaster Ride to Nowhere’, was set up as a contingency plan should an EGM be required.
But after significantly exceeding expectations, it is believed there was no need to continue with the petition.
The group of prominent figures seeking to enact change at board level will ask the club for a civil transition. But in the event of president Peggy O’Neal refusing the request, an EGM appears the most likely option, albeit not the group’s preferred scenario.
Many of the challengers involved with enacting change met again on Wednesday evening.
On Wednesday, Fairfax Media reported that a group of Richmond-affiliated figureheads were planning a “bloodless coup” targeting key board members, including O’Neal — who has served on the board since November 2005.
After three straight elimination finals exits, a disappointing 2016 campaign and the extension of Damien Hardwick’s contract, the online petition was adamant an evolution was needed at Tigerland.
“The idea of the Richmond Rollercoaster was to build support to call for much needed changes to the board of the Richmond Football Club,” a statement on the website said.
“This was not about one particular person, it was about starting the conversations and encouraging the right Richmond people to come forward to lead the Richmond Football Club and put an end to the rollercoaster ride we have endured for too long.
“Thank you to everyone who has been involved in the Richmond Rollercoaster, it has achieved what we wanted. Now we hope there will be an alternative to provide Richmond members with a choice to regenerate the Richmond Football Club.”
Before the website was shut down, it detailed the reasons for change.
“The on-field performance in the last four seasons is that of a club lacking in direction. It’s time the entire club had a more stable foundation rather than this rollercoaster we have every year,” it read.
“Change is urgently needed and with your continued support we will soon have the right people in place to lead the Richmond Football Club to success.
“It is important that we continue to build the momentum and push for change … We’re on track to get the right people, the best qualified people, to come forward to lead the Richmond Football Club.”
It has also been reported that Leon Davies — an IT executive and prominent Richmond supporter — is a key part of the planned board coup.
Davies tweeted out a link to the petition last month, throwing his support behind the campaign for change at Tigerland.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-board-challenge-trigger-reached-after-online-petition-obtains-excess-number-of-signatures/news-story/4b61fa813aa9f6919cf37016be4c92b1
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Peggy forcing an EGM is the real spiller of blood.
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Richmond rebels cut ties with Russo
CAROLINE WILSON
The Age
4 August 2016
Joe Russo has withdrawn from the group of high profile Richmond supporters still planning to force a challenge to Peggy O'Neal's board.
Russo met the group of Wednesday night where it was mutually agreed that his involvement would prove detrimental to the group's plans as they work towards a meeting with club leaders over the coming weeks.
Russo, whose close ties to Mick Gatto's business partner and underworld associate John Khoury were revealed by Fairfax Media, on Wednesday night met the group, which included Stephen Mandie and Damien Silk.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale has recently terminated a sponsorship agreement between the property developer Russo and the Tigers VFL team, which was worth $150,000 a year to the club. Gale wrote to the Caydon Developments boss before Russo's role in the potential board challenge was revealed by Fairfax Media.
Despite multiple sources confirming that he has used Khoury as a consultant, Russo dismissed this, saying his association with Khoury stemmed from a childhood relationship.
Former Richmond orthopaedic surgeon Hayden Morris and investment advisor Peter Capp and are also understood to be considering a role in what the group hopes will prove a peaceful challenge to some long-standing board members.
While Peggy O'Neal, who is up for re-election this year, has indicated she plans to stand for another term another long-stime director, John Mathies, is expected to step aside after 12 years.
It has also emerged that the Richmond board nominations committee, whom Russo refused to meet when he challenged for the board last year, has changed its regulatory structure.
When established, the committee consisted of three external consultants and one club director. Now the committee includes three current directors - O'Neal, Rob Dalton and Kerry Ryan - along with former Gemba director and the co-founder of Unscripted.com Ben Crowe.
Under the committee rules, O'Neal and Ryan who are up for re-election this year, must both step down from the committee at the end of October.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-richmond-rebels-cut-ties-with-developer-joe-russo-20160804-gqkvdf.html
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Well done caro. Who she gonna target next? The surgeon or the investor?
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Richmond board aspirant Joe Russo defends relationship with alleged underworld figure
Jon Anderson
Herald Sun
4 August, 2016, an hour ago
PROPERTY developer Joe Russo has withdrawn from his foreshadowed Richmond board challenge.
“I won’t be proceeding any further,” Russo said today. “I don’t want to hurt the credible people who are trying to get a ticket together.
“I’m speaking about the Mandies, the Silks, the Ralphs, Peter Capp and Hayden Morris, who are all talking about a ticket and I don’t want to damage that ticket.
“I will always be a Tiger man and only hope that one day we will win a premiership. All I want is to see the club become a powerhouse again. That was always my intention.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-board-aspirant-joe-russo-defends-relationship-with-alleged-underworld-figure/news-story/4e65315ecd96548b01d54f39e843fae4
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Snip! Discuss the issue without the personal insults ppl.
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Shame. Russo could have given an a grader or 2 a property deal they couldn't refuse.
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Great news :clapping
Now for some serious change
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or some concrete boots to play in if they did refuse
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Interesting article , apologies if its already been posted
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/wouldbe-richmond-takeover-group-are-just-a-pub-rabble/news-story/0b68bedb6886628600e6a832f6116253
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On a serious night
Board are garbage
They have a footy department who have lost the plot
Who is responsible ?
How does Ty Vickery possibly get a game
Patrick Smith article proudly sponsored by RFC spin dept
Hardly light weights at the pub either
Need true leaders on the board
Not muppets !!!!!
Rant over
Aren't happy at all tonight
Vickery seriously
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Oh well
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He will be like a new recruit
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On a serious night
Board are garbage
They have a footy department who have lost the plot
Who is responsible ?
How does Ty Vickery possibly get a game
Patrick Smith article proudly sponsored by RFC spin dept
Hardly light weights at the pub either
Need true leaders on the board
Not muppets !!!!!
Rant over
Aren't happy at all tonight
Vickery seriously
Lightweights as categorised by NOweights
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Interesting article , apologies if its already been posted
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/wouldbe-richmond-takeover-group-are-just-a-pub-rabble/news-story/0b68bedb6886628600e6a832f6116253
Here's the full article for those who can't access it behind the paywall.
New stripes not Tigers’ solution
News.com.au
4 August 2016
As the AFL heavies yesterday prepared to tell the 18 clubs how the $2.5 billion broadcast money would be distributed, they must have had second thoughts. It wasn’t Melbourne’s cold winter that chilled the administrators to their bones. It was the confirmation that football club environs are the natural habitats of idiots and buffoons.
As the burgeoning reports of a challenge to the Richmond directors became more defined over the past week, it became clear that a group of men — no women apparently — had met at a suburban pub with plans to reshape the board. Sheer lunacy.
Do these people really think a board that has turned a $5 million debt into $2m in the bank, that has established a VFL team, that has drawn membership to 70,000, that has built a new training and administration facility and is rated No 1 in the AFL’s assessment of board governance deserves this rabble of a takeover?
Rather than stroke their egos in cheap pub talk they should have approached club president Peggy O’Neill and chief executive Brendon Gale about their trepidations. An adult discussion about their concerns would have benefited both parties. An exchange of ideas.
It is unclear what seriously bothers the challengers. Is it really believable that this group wants to turn over a successful group of directors because they think there are too many lawyers sitting around the board table? Is this really the best thought they came up with after piling into the pub?
The embryonic challenge is based on one poor year of on-field results. The Tigers, finalists for the previous three years, winning 42 of 69 games, have won seven of 18 this season. It is a poor year. No one would walk away from that.
Yet after winning the 2008 premiership, the hot Hawthorn list could win just nine of 22 matches in 2009 and it had 21 of its 22 premiership players. The only one missing was retired champion Shane Crawford. Hawthorn had a bad year, that’s all. It happens. This season they are closing in on a rare share of history — to be only the second club to win four consecutive premierships.
Damien Hardwick is a good coach. He was given a two-year extension at the start of this season but only after rigorous, almost pedantic, review. This was no reappointment on a whim.
As the Tigers faltered this year, commentators jumped all over themselves to analyse the list. No good. Only five players were rated gifted — Alex Rance, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Brett Deledio. The rest you wouldn’t feed to the chooks.
If that is the case — and the evidence is strong — then Hardwick is some sort of coach. To take a list with a handful of talent into a hat-trick of finals is proof enough of his ability to coach. That the Tigers did not win one of their three finals appearances in that run is an insight into the quality and depth of the list. Its threshold was making the finals, winning one was beyond it.
There will be change on the Richmond board but it will be orderly and not run to the timing of a group convened in a pub. The directors know that the board is constantly assessed to ensure that it has the right mix of skills for current and future challenges. A nominations committee then assesses likely new directors.
There appears more than a soupcon of sexism in the mutterings of the challenges. As if the board cannot be any good because the chair is a woman, Peggy O’Neal. And UYet she is one of the most successful club leaders in the competition.
What is most telling is the pub group’s inability to articulate what is wrong with the board — sorry, it’s got too many lawyers sitting on it. They cannot challenge the board on its financial management or its vision.
To suggest that the board might want to have a look at the football department is so feeble as to damn the challengers. For heaven’s sake, the board has already ordered an independent review.
The AFL administrators have seen would-be coups before and they frighten them. They are loath to give their money to novices and cheerleaders.
It is not enough to have put money into the club or been a member since your father sat you on his shoulders to see the great Royce Hart. The smell of football changing rooms can be intoxicating. Just to call a player by his first name and shake his hand can make people swoon.
Football clubs have rendered the smartest businessmen into prattling idiots. Richmond is a well-run club. The challenge to the board is unwarranted and pure mischief but, no doubt, bubbles in a glass or three of ego.
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:chuck
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Who wrote this poo! Sounds like Dumbwick but with spell check on
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Patrick Smith wrote it.
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Patrick Smith wrote it.
That makes sense. Just the muttering's of a raving loonie then.
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Good ol' Fatprick....
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I'm sure the people involved appreciate being called idiots.
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Peggy forcing an EGM is the real spiller of blood.
cant wait to see the back of her, hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Not sure what anderson is trying to say.
He's trying to agitate, he's trying to pee off our power brokers by calling them weak, he wants the situation to escalate so he has something to write about and make money. He's a idiot.
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Know for a fact the club leaks information to the press
Amazing that the meeting happened last week and it took a week for it to land in the media
Think that Peggy and Benny have become very worried
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
wouldnt be the first time. we need stability Jack thats what we need etc etc.
I wonder if the ones who scoffed at him 6 months ago will now change their mind about the current board especially the 2 clowns at the top
what one thinks of russo has nothing to do with what they think of the current board.
just because someone thinks Russo offered nothing, is not an endorsement of the current board.
Only a simpleton would link the two things together in the belief that not endorsing one is an automatic endorsement of the other.
perhaps to some but not to all.
pretty sure plenty of people endorsed the ALP as a direct result of abbott but i guess that's different hey. In the real world this is what happens.
sit down champ and pay attention next time.
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Patrick Smith wrote it.
As the burgeoning reports of a challenge to the Richmond directors became more defined over the past week, it became clear that a group of men — no women apparently — had met at a suburban pub with plans to reshape the board. Sheer lunacy.
Sounds,like a female journo ....oh......wait
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Hey challengers Patrick says you need a woman. Go find one.
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What is most telling is the pub group’s inability to articulate what is wrong with the board — sorry, it’s got too many lawyers sitting on it. They cannot challenge the board on its financial management or its vision.
Expecting whacks for saying this
But on the above which I think is a fairly reasonable statement
30 odd people got together at a pub in Malvern. Passionate, loyal Tiger fans. I didn't go because I didn't sign up to that Rollercoaster web-site for a number of reasons so I didn't get an invite. Funny though it was only 30 odd but I digrese
Not one person who's attended and posts on here has shared any type of vision or plan these people have. Just said how great it was, how passionate these people are....how angry they are with decisions that have been made (aren't we all) and it was pointed out that there are too any lawyers and accountants on the current board but not much else.
We are all peeved with the results this year; they are unacceptable. I don't know of one person on this forum who supported the Hardwick contract extension.
But outside of these "captain obvious" observations what do the "challengers" actually offer? When can we expect them to show themselves and officially throw their collective hats in the ring?
30 people out of 72k....the remaining 71970 odd deserve better than the cloak and dagger nonsense we are getting now; which has turned into a media circus
I know I harp on this but they need to offer more than the rumblings we've had so far
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
wouldnt be the first time. we need stability Jack thats what we need etc etc.
I wonder if the ones who scoffed at him 6 months ago will now change their mind about the current board especially the 2 clowns at the top
what one thinks of russo has nothing to do with what they think of the current board.
just because someone thinks Russo offered nothing, is not an endorsement of the current board.
Only a simpleton would link the two things together in the belief that not endorsing one is an automatic endorsement of the other.
perhaps to some but not to all.
pretty sure plenty of people endorsed the ALP as a direct result of abbott but i guess that's different hey. In the real world this is what happens.
sit down champ and pay attention next time.
no its not different, it just as stupid. just because something happens in the real world, doesnt make it correct. I do understand that the world is full of unthinking idiots.For someone to say that because someone else didnt think much of Russo means they endorse the current board puts that person right in this group. It shows an inability to consider all options and to follow the george bush mentality
why is not possible to not be happy with the current board, but also want substance from the first bozo that rides into town swinging his hairy nuts about?
sit down and put take your brain out of neutral for once if the transmission isnt jammed there
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Gotta get this right and even though I hate to say it, right at the moment I will vote to stay as is.
Why?
As much as its about the footy and Im the last one you need to emphasise that to! Off field we have got our poo together.
Need fresh ideas there aint no question about that and something is clearly wrong with development and game plan. (id be all for a Bomber Thompson).
But as for this coup seems like it will be just another boys club "taking over and doing it their way", which could be a total disaster.
Get a plan explain who you want to replace and what if any new ideas you can bring to the table, all I can see a total spill doing is destablising the club even more than right now.
Maybe as "suppoerters" that have the best interests of the club at heart other than thier own personeel agendas and egos.
Mayve request a brain storming session with the current hierachy "Same goes for them" and see what ideas and opinions you can all come up with that may move us in a better direction on field.
Anyway looking forward tonight, why? because I love beating the filthly pie scum and rub thier supporters and Treloars face in it, hope cotch smacks the idiot.
:gotigers
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Fork out for Fyfe and Hurley.
Hawks and Bulldogs can still chase players and we spend 2 bob htf does that work?
theres a start
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Get Mick Malthouse on the board as Footy Director :shh
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Listening to some of the nervous nellies it's like we are trying to change a board that has got us 3 flags in a row. With 70k members and a massive supporter base and exposure you would hope that your finances are sound. No big achievement really when you consider the additional JDF contributions that are rolled up into our results. Sure they've done a good job in some areas especially rallying the troops but lets not go overstating their achievements. Sell hope to tiger fans and they will come out in droves. The board and the silent majority are jumping at shadows and would rather stay on all 4's and crawl rather than getting up to run in the fear of falling over. We are stuck in second gear and don't know how to change gears in terms of improving our on field personnel and performance. A more dynamic board that's not afraid to take risks is required to get smart operators in the critical on field roles. Get a couple of finals wins or a prelim or even a grand final appearance then the off field performaces of memberships and financial results the current board boast about will be a drop in the ocean in comparison. We are a massive club run by mice.
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How well are we really doing commercially though when you take out all the donations coming in from supporters? Yes we've come a long way. but lets not talk them up like theyve something extraordinary
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Not endorsing anyone in particular until I see some kind of coherent plan....but we definitely need to at least replace the board members that have been there since the Frawley years...stuff me that's like the personnel equivalent of the possum shyte Wallace had to clean out still being here...
Peggy Sue, or anyone else on the current board for that matter, being president ahead of Malcolm Speed is bizarre.....the bloke ran the ICC ffs, a worldwide sporting body 50 times as powerful as the AFL and arguably, taking India's population alone into account, one of top 5 sporting bodies on the planet.....you couldn't be more qualified....
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Next thing will be that the club will try and discredit Russo and those involved in the Coup
Watch this space
wouldnt be the first time. we need stability Jack thats what we need etc etc.
I wonder if the ones who scoffed at him 6 months ago will now change their mind about the current board especially the 2 clowns at the top
what one thinks of russo has nothing to do with what they think of the current board.
just because someone thinks Russo offered nothing, is not an endorsement of the current board.
Only a simpleton would link the two things together in the belief that not endorsing one is an automatic endorsement of the other.
perhaps to some but not to all.
pretty sure plenty of people endorsed the ALP as a direct result of abbott but i guess that's different hey. In the real world this is what happens.
sit down champ and pay attention next time.
no its not different, it just as stupid. just because something happens in the real world, doesnt make it correct. I do understand that the world is full of unthinking idiots.For someone to say that because someone else didnt think much of Russo means they endorse the current board puts that person right in this group. It shows an inability to consider all options and to follow the george bush mentality
why is not possible to not be happy with the current board, but also want substance from the first bozo that rides into town swinging his hairy nuts about?
sit down and put take your brain out of neutral for once if the transmission isnt jammed there
I'm swingin mine round right now doing figure eights in the window so the old sheila across the road stuffs off with her dog that keeps pooting on my nature strip
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Just wondering if Ox is actually Damien Barrett IRL:
Damien Barrett - via afl.com.au
Aug 5 2016
POSITIVITY is a good football quality. Delusion isn't.
In trying to be forever positive in a season of football which has been anything but, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has become delusional.
It started early April with a reference to the Tigers needing to take a few steps back in order to go forward. It continued in the same month with a pledge that his side would work its way out of an early season slump.
Then came the doozy in late May. "We feel in the footy club now has good a list as I think we've had at my disposal since I've been there,'' Hardwick said.
As late as yesterday, the delusion continued. "We feel we're a finals-calibre side."
At that point, someone at Richmond needed to take Hardwick by the hand, place him in front of a very large widescreen TV and force him to watch last Saturday's 88-point loss to GWS, followed by the previous week's final 30 minutes of football against Hawthorn.
And then make him watch the carnage package again. And again. And then one more time to remove whatever delusion might still be left inside his workings.
The backward steps Richmond did take in the opening rounds have not been followed by movement forward. The early season slump has not been corrected, simply worsened.
Hardwick can coach. But he is terrible with public messaging.
Hardwick took Richmond to three consecutive finals series from 2013.
That he has had a significant say in list composition and yet has failed to win a final is a problem and possibly an insurmountable burden.
The unknown for him and the nine-person board which will determine his future is whether, like his team, his high point will forever be simply making an elimination final.
Damien Hardwick in 2009. Picture: AFL Photos
Coaching the one AFL team for seven years is usually long enough to determine one's abilities. Contractually, Hardwick will be coach of the Tigers for two more seasons.
Comparisons are being made of Hardwick's current situation with that of Geelong's hardline review and near-dismissal of Mark Thompson in 2006.
Like Hardwick, Thompson at that stage had coached for seven years. He had made the finals twice, winning finals in 2004 and 2005. There's the difference. Thompson had won finals, reached a preliminary final.
There should be no comparison with Hardwick and certainly no historically referenced safety net for Hardwick when the Tigers board properly analyses his tenure in the coming weeks.
The board itself needs to be bold enough to look inside. Regardless of the merits and credentials of the board challengers, the Tigers need a revamp of directors. Four of the nine directors have served 10 or more years. Six of the nine have served six-plus years.
For decades, all Richmond Football Club wanted was stability at coaching and board level. Having, from the start of 1977 through to the end of 1999, churned through 10 coaches and endured 11 changes of coach (Tony Jewell had two stints), the Tigers steadied with long stints by Danny Frawley, Terry Wallace and Hardwick.
So too at board level. Leon Daphne was followed by Clinton Casey, Gary March and Peggy O'Neal.
Yet for all the stability, the only results that matter haven't come.
Maybe the stability has created a suffocating inertia. Maybe a 2016 version of the old-fashioned Tiger bloodletting could positively shake things up
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-05/comment-is-dimma-delusional
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Not gonna give tha parrot credit here coz all he's doing is stating the obvious.
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What is most telling is the pub group’s inability to articulate what is wrong with the board — sorry, it’s got too many lawyers sitting on it. They cannot challenge the board on its financial management or its vision.
Expecting whacks for saying this
But on the above which I think is a fairly reasonable statement
30 odd people got together at a pub in Malvern. Passionate, loyal Tiger fans. I didn't go because I didn't sign up to that Rollercoaster web-site for a number of reasons so I didn't get an invite. Funny though it was only 30 odd but I digrese
Not one person who's attended and posts on here has shared any type of vision or plan these people have. Just said how great it was, how passionate these people are....how angry they are with decisions that have been made (aren't we all) and it was pointed out that there are too any lawyers and accountants on the current board but not much else.
We are all peeved with the results this year; they are unacceptable. I don't know of one person on this forum who supported the Hardwick contract extension.
But outside of these "captain obvious" observations what do the "challengers" actually offer? When can we expect them to show themselves and officially throw their collective hats in the ring?
30 people out of 72k....the remaining 71970 odd deserve better than the cloak and dagger nonsense we are getting now; which has turned into a media circus
I know I harp on this but they need to offer more than the rumblings we've had so far
To be fair WP, these people, just like us, have little idea of the current state of contracts, contract clauses or any other financial detail that the club guards privately. It is difficult to say what you WILL do without insight in what you CAN do.
Conversely, the current group have also not told us their vision or plan AND they have the inside information about the club at hand. After 3-0-75, we have not had a single idea about what they are trying to achieve articulated.
So what ever you say about a group of disenchanted supporters, you can say about the incumbents with interest!
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To be fair WP, these people, just like us, have little idea of the current state of contracts, contract clauses or any other financial detail that the club guards privately. It is difficult to say what you WILL do without insight in what you CAN do.
Conversely, the current group have also not told us their vision or plan AND they have the inside information about the club at hand. After 3-0-75, we have not had a single idea about what they are trying to achieve articulated.
So what ever you say about a group of disenchanted supporters, you can say about the incumbents with interest!
Fair call and I get your point
But by what's been said by people who post here and speculated on in the media is this
1/ want an orderly transition to takeover at least 5 positions on the board, not actually giving the members a say even though I've read constantly on this site the howls of discontent that members don't get enough of a say but hey that's OK because people are so peeved they've been won over by a group of ..er... um ... well some people who go together at a pub...but waits there is more because ....
2/ if they don't get their way we go down the EGM path = costs the club $1 million, people can say I am being a hysterical but sorry facts are that's how much an EGM would cost... can think better areas the club can spend (invest a million bucks)
3/ will sack the coach (that's what Jack has alluded to) now like or not but thanks to the current regime that would cost us another million bucks - again money I'd rather see invested else where
Believe me I want change
But I want the change for the better not for the sake of it and certainly not on the back of no vision / plan
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So WP in order to get 1 (have members decide) you need to go through 2 (spill the board). Can you explain why it will cost 1 mill.
Regardless of what it'll cost change needs to occur. All parties lay their cards on the table and let the members vote. Simple.
I'd rather my money be spent on this than paying 600k to our current coach ceo and footy manager.
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3/ will sack the coach (that's what Jack has alluded to) now like or not but thanks to the current regime that would cost us another million bucks - again money I'd rather see invested else where
Just on this...I'd suggest it will probably cost us a lot more than that in the long run if we continue on with him....
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What is most telling is the pub group’s inability to articulate what is wrong with the board — sorry, it’s got too many lawyers sitting on it. They cannot challenge the board on its financial management or its vision.
Expecting whacks for saying this
But on the above which I think is a fairly reasonable statement
30 odd people got together at a pub in Malvern. Passionate, loyal Tiger fans. I didn't go because I didn't sign up to that Rollercoaster web-site for a number of reasons so I didn't get an invite. Funny though it was only 30 odd but I digrese
Not one person who's attended and posts on here has shared any type of vision or plan these people have. Just said how great it was, how passionate these people are....how angry they are with decisions that have been made (aren't we all) and it was pointed out that there are too any lawyers and accountants on the current board but not much else.
We are all peeved with the results this year; they are unacceptable. I don't know of one person on this forum who supported the Hardwick contract extension.
But outside of these "captain obvious" observations what do the "challengers" actually offer? When can we expect them to show themselves and officially throw their collective hats in the ring?
30 people out of 72k....the remaining 71970 odd deserve better than the cloak and dagger nonsense we are getting now; which has turned into a media circus
I know I harp on this but they need to offer more than the rumblings we've had so far
Think that's a great point WP. I'm totally confused with my own feelings over this whole saga. Of course I want to see something change, I'm upset with obviously questionable decisions that have been made both on and off the field over the past 12-24 months.
But what is the mandate of the rebels? "There's too many lawyers on the board - that's the reason we're in such a terrible state." Seriously?
I'm happy that at least its a shake-up, people who perhaps need to be reminded that they are still answerable to the masses.
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Im sure the ticket and their mandate will come out soon enough. Lol the current board has had 10 years and we still dont know what their mandate is. And people are jumping up and down about people in shadows meeting at a pub lol. It's not like anyone is asking us to vote tomorrow.
The club and its supporters need to harden the stuff up and take some risks coz the AFL is not a level playing field and only the brave and smart will prosper. Essendon took a risk and it failed big time but chances are they'll bounce back and win a flag before us while we climb to the lofty heights of 8th and wonder why we can't go any higher.
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What is most telling is the pub group’s inability to articulate what is wrong with the board — sorry, it’s got too many lawyers sitting on it. They cannot challenge the board on its financial management or its vision.
Expecting whacks for saying this
But on the above which I think is a fairly reasonable statement
30 odd people got together at a pub in Malvern. Passionate, loyal Tiger fans. I didn't go because I didn't sign up to that Rollercoaster web-site for a number of reasons so I didn't get an invite. Funny though it was only 30 odd but I digrese
Not one person who's attended and posts on here has shared any type of vision or plan these people have. Just said how great it was, how passionate these people are....how angry they are with decisions that have been made (aren't we all) and it was pointed out that there are too any lawyers and accountants on the current board but not much else.
We are all peeved with the results this year; they are unacceptable. I don't know of one person on this forum who supported the Hardwick contract extension.
But outside of these "captain obvious" observations what do the "challengers" actually offer? When can we expect them to show themselves and officially throw their collective hats in the ring?
30 people out of 72k....the remaining 71970 odd deserve better than the cloak and dagger nonsense we are getting now; which has turned into a media circus
I know I harp on this but they need to offer more than the rumblings we've had so far
To be fair WP, these people, just like us, have little idea of the current state of contracts, contract clauses or any other financial detail that the club guards privately. It is difficult to say what you WILL do without insight in what you CAN do.
Conversely, the current group have also not told us their vision or plan AND they have the inside information about the club at hand. After 3-0-75, we have not had a single idea about what they are trying to achieve articulated.
So what ever you say about a group of disenchanted supporters, you can say about the incumbents with interest!
Even more so with the talk of staff not doing their jobs properly.
I have criticised Jackson but to be fair it is very hard to know who is responsible for some of these recruiting decisions from the outside.
Same with List Management.
Same with Development.
Same with player welfare.
Same with Match committee.
You really need to know the staff relationships to know who's at fault.
Unless you're on the inside you don't know who to blame.
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2/ if they don't get their way we go down the EGM path = costs the club $1 million, people can say I am being a hysterical but sorry facts are that's how much an EGM would cost... can think better areas the club can spend (invest a million bucks)
How is it going to cost $1 million?
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Peggy blood spiller
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What is most telling is the pub group’s inability to articulate what is wrong with the board — sorry, it’s got too many lawyers sitting on it. They cannot challenge the board on its financial management or its vision.
Expecting whacks for saying this
But on the above which I think is a fairly reasonable statement
30 odd people got together at a pub in Malvern. Passionate, loyal Tiger fans. I didn't go because I didn't sign up to that Rollercoaster web-site for a number of reasons so I didn't get an invite. Funny though it was only 30 odd but I digrese
Not one person who's attended and posts on here has shared any type of vision or plan these people have. Just said how great it was, how passionate these people are....how angry they are with decisions that have been made (aren't we all) and it was pointed out that there are too any lawyers and accountants on the current board but not much else.
We are all peeved with the results this year; they are unacceptable. I don't know of one person on this forum who supported the Hardwick contract extension.
But outside of these "captain obvious" observations what do the "challengers" actually offer? When can we expect them to show themselves and officially throw their collective hats in the ring?
30 people out of 72k....the remaining 71970 odd deserve better than the cloak and dagger nonsense we are getting now; which has turned into a media circus
I know I harp on this but they need to offer more than the rumblings we've had so far
To be fair WP, these people, just like us, have little idea of the current state of contracts, contract clauses or any other financial detail that the club guards privately. It is difficult to say what you WILL do without insight in what you CAN do.
Conversely, the current group have also not told us their vision or plan AND they have the inside information about the club at hand. After 3-0-75, we have not had a single idea about what they are trying to achieve articulated.
So what ever you say about a group of disenchanted supporters, you can say about the incumbents with interest!
Even more so with the talk of staff not doing their jobs properly.
I have criticised Jackson but to be fair it is very hard to know who is responsible for some of these recruiting decisions from the outside.
Same with List Management.
Same with Development.
Same with player welfare.
Same with Match committee.
You really need to know the staff relationships to know who's at fault.
Unless you're on the inside you don't know who to blame.
Danny boy does
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2/ if they don't get their way we go down the EGM path = costs the club $1 million, people can say I am being a hysterical but sorry facts are that's how much an EGM would cost... can think better areas the club can spend (invest a million bucks)
How is it going to cost $1 million?
If Peggy Sue and Benny Fail spend the $1mil paying out Dudwick this weekend then their won't be a need for an EGM. That's a win/win
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As if Tho
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Stability overrated, says key Richmond destabiliser
Ronny Lerner
The Age
5 August 2016
A determination to maintain stability is preventing the Richmond board from making "bold" decisions as it watches other once-struggling Melbourne clubs "flying past us", says a rebel supporter.
Leon Davies, the IT executive who began an online campaign aimed at helping trigger a board spill, says the rebel challenge does not mean a return to the bad old days of instability at Punt Road Oval.
Davies is backing prominent supporters who met at the Malvern Hotel last week to air grievances and issue a challenge to five board members, including president Peggy O'Neal.
After decades of in-fighting and blood-letting, the Tigers have enjoyed relative stability since 2000, with only three coaches in that time, debt eradicated and membership rising to more than 70,000.
However, Davies says the board is too keen to maintain a steady courseand the club needs to evolve.
"We need to be able to have people there that can make strong decisions," he told SEN on Friday.
"At the moment this stability that we're hiding behind seems to reflect the club not being brave enough to make strong decisions.
"We've got clubs flying past us – Melbourne, St Kilda, Bulldogs, Carlton – and we need to be brave, we need to be bold.
"The people that are involved (in the board challenge), their first intent is to go and talk to the club about a smooth transition. Should that not be the case then other steps may need to be taken."
Richmond have wiped out their debt under the current regime but Davies was sceptical of the methods employed to achieve that result.
"I'm not so certain the club has been able to do that without significant contributions from members in the form of donations," he said.
"For example last year, take the (fundraising) Jack Dyer Foundation out, we have a loss of $330,000. That seems to be systematic through the journey over the last few years and it's just not sustainable.
"The club's in the bottom quarter of sponsorship dollars from an AFL club point of view. Now, when we have such a high-profile location, a high-profile club, that's very disturbing."
Davies confirmed he would not be part of any rival ticket and that his role was purely to bring people together who would.
Davies slammed the club's decision to re-sign coach Damien Hardwick until the end of 2018 before this season started and queried why auditing firm Ernst and Young was conducting the review of the football club.
"If you look at best practice, you may look at Geelong in 2006, I think they completed their review with football people rather than an Ernst and Young type of firm, and then they reappointed their coach and that seems to be a logical set of circumstances," Davies said.
"The board drives these decisions ... we've had three (reviews) over the last eight years. I don't know what the results of those are but I don't see how many games Ernst and Young have played. I would rather see really strong football people come into that club, dissect it down, have a look at it and see where the improvements can be made and then you make your decisions moving forward."
Davies said the Richmond coup plotters were concerned primarily about mixed messaging emanating from the club.
"What's our vision and where are we going? We don't know," he said.
"We're not being sold a vision or anything that gives us any confidence that we are heading in the (right) direction.
"If that (rebuilding) is what we're doing then articulate that to us.
"We are a long way from that (being a contender) and we need to make sure that the members are being sold the right story and make sure that we support that. Don't tell us that we've got the best list we've had for seven years when the performances don't indicate that at all."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-rebel-leon-davies-says-stability-holding-back-board-20160805-gqlpat.html
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O'Neal, in her president's address tonight, said she and the Board believe the job to rebuild the Club is only half done and they are going to stick around to see it through.
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So WP in order to get 1 (have members decide) you need to go through 2 (spill the board). Can you explain why it will cost 1 mill.
Regardless of what it'll cost change needs to occur. All parties lay their cards on the table and let the members vote. Simple.
I'd rather my money be spent on this than paying 600k to our current coach ceo and footy manager.
If we go down the path of an EGM then it is goimg to cost huge $$$. You are paying an outsode organisation in this case our Auditors to run a one off election. This falls outside their normal scope of services and in these circumstances they charge significant $$$
Wait to AGM amd the cost isnt as great
But the key here is this new group whoever they are dont want any form of election they want a transition. To me that implies we the voting members wont get a say
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Well said Davies, can't argue with any of that
Peggy FO
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O'Neal was on 3AW tonight
Most interesting thing she said and the most damning IMESHO is the fact that Mal Speed has told her and ALL board members he hasn't spoken to the "agitators". She said Speed is actually quite upset at the implication he has been linled to them
Seems someone is telling porkies in a big way
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O'Neal, in her president's address tonight, said she and the Board believe the job to rebuild the Club is only half done and they are going to stick around to see it through.
Peggy also said (on Ch 7):
* Change and success is built on stability. Instability leads to chaos. She is not going to let instability take hold of the Club.
* Backed Dimma as coach.
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Tiger president says no takeover 'on my watch'
AFL.com.au
6 August 2016
“NOT ON MY watch” is the bold declaration from Richmond president Peggy O'Neal after suggestions her and members of her board should step down after a failed 2016 season.
The board rumblings have grown louder in recent days following the Tigers' humiliating 88-point loss to Greater Western Sydney last weekend.
But O'Neal said she was in for the long haul, delivering an impassioned president's address ahead of Friday night's clash against Collingwood.
"We are absorbed in building a strong and bold premiership club and we'll leave the political maneuvering to others, as we can't afford to be distracted about the serious business we have to do," O'Neal said.
"After coming this far are we going to walk away from the challenge, of taking that next big step, on our road to the pathway of success? Or are we going to hand over the club and say it's all too hard?
"No we're not, not on my watch."
O'Neal rubbished suggestions the Richmond board was "stale and stagnant".
"It's unfortunate that the board, of all things, has become the headline," she said.
"Stability has been important and it has been a key to our performance on and off the field in recent years. Stability and change go hand in hand, stablilty allows change.
"Instability and change breeds chaos and I refuse to let that happen to this club."
O'Neal said that despite a disappointing season the club was dedicated to turning things around.
"Some people have tried to suggest that stability has come at the expense of change but that is utter nonsense," she said.
"This is a very different club than it was four years ago, much less what it was 10 years ago.
"While the ultimate prize has eluded us, the trajectory is absolutely clear."
O'Neal would not comment on the review into the club's football department, led by chief executive Brendon Gale on behalf of the board, other than to say changes were in the offing.
"We don't make serious decisions on our future based on opinion or gut feeling. While not everything is science, there are some fundamentals to good decision-making, and the first fundamental is to be as well informed as possible," O'Neal said.
"All of you can appreciate that while matters are in progress it's premature to make announcements.
"There'll be a time and place, which I expect will be in the next few weeks, to share those changes with our members and our supporters."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-05/tiger-president-says-no-takeover-on-my-watch
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O’Neal defends under-siege Hardwick
LAUREN WOOD
Herald Sun
6 August 2016
RICHMOND president Peggy O’Neal has launched an impassioned and emphatic defence of under-siege coach Damien Hardwick.
O’Neal, who re-signed the coach earlier this season, is adamant that the Tigers will not be bowing to the “external noise” that Hardwick referenced continuously this week.
She declared that Hardwick remains the coach for the club going forward, despite 70 and 88-point back-to-back losses prior to Friday’s clash with Collingwood, and flatly rejected the suggestion that the decision to re-sign Hardwick with so much of the season still to play out was a mistake.
“We made our decision based on performance through the past three years and we still think it was the right decision to make,” she said on 3AW.
“This (season) has been a downturn nobody wanted to have, but it’s not always up, up, up.
“We still think the fundamentals of why we extended Damien’s contract are true.
“We think he is the man for us.
“We went through a rigorous and difficult approach ... we were pretty thorough. It doesn’t guarantee that things will be positive.
“What we want is a premiership and if we have to make tough decisions to get there ... we’re prepared to do that.”
Rumours of board ructions have dominated discussion this week, but O’Neal said she is “absolutely” sure that board member Malcolm Speed is not involved in such a push.
“Malcolm has assured the board that he has nothing to do with it, and he was rather upset that his name was associated with it,” she said.
“He contacted all the board members to say that.”
Hardwick recently labelled the current Richmond list as the best he has had the reins to in his time at the club.
And O’Neal said the club is determined to take the next step towards the top eight and, eventually, the top four.
“I think you have to put it in context. I know what he said about the list most recently ... the potential for the list is what he meant, and starting to blood the new talent and having the experienced elite players there,” she said.
“We’re looking for a side that will take us into finals and win finals. After arriving at finals three years in a row and not winning any, it became apparent early in the season that we needed to change some things around — that’s what he was prepared to do.
“We’re confident it will hold us in good stead for the next step we have to take.
“We all take responsibility for what has happened (this year).”
O’Neal, who has been at the helm of the club since 2013 and has been criticised for her low-profile approach to the role, also said she is keen for another term in the job.
“I can’t believe this topic of governance at football clubs is front page news,” she said.
“I have nothing but the club’s best interests at heart. My job is to guide ... if they want me to be president again, I’d be more than happy to go ahead.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-president-peggy-oneal-defends-undersiege-coach-damien-hardwick/news-story/5c32fb7bf31e0f27f3b71f96a2ee9e56
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O'Neal's pre-match speech:
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-08-05/round-20-oneal-prematch
O'Neal on 3aw:
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-08-05/oneal-on-3aw
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Seriously
What else is she going to say
Also listening to Mark Choco Williams tonight
Nice bloke Choco who I like
But time is up there
Footy dept are behind the times
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The other interesting thing she said in the 3AW interview was regard9ng list management and that was club cannot trade away its first round draft pick unless approved by the board
Oh and the silence is absolutely deafening regarding he comments i posted about Speed having no link to the pub crew.
Who's telling porkies?
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You would have thought they actually won a final last night. Lmao. Rance blowing kisses to the crowd......
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That's how clueless they are.
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The other interesting thing she said in the 3AW interview was regard9ng list management and that was club cannot trade away its first round draft pick unless approved by the board
Oh and the silence is absolutely deafening regarding he comments i posted about Speed having no link to the pub crew.
Who's telling porkies?
I believe Malcolm is overseas in Rio at the moment
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That's how clueless they are.
If you want robots, follow Collingwood. Let's see how that works out.
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LMAO.
Thanks darling.
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That's how clueless they are.
If you want robots, follow Collingwood. Let's see how that works out.
One meaningless win and you're a brightsider again...funny stuff....
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That's how clueless they are.
If you want robots, follow Collingwood. Let's see how that works out.
One meaningless win and you're a brightsider again...funny stuff....
What are you basing that post on?
Oh, that's right - you won't respond because you can't explain yourself.
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No it's much for the same reason I don't bother explaining to a puppy that it's reflection is not another dog....
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No it's much for the same reason I don't bother explaining to a puppy that it's reflection is not another dog....
That's right.
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Father Ted is demonstrating some plastic toy cows to Dougal.
Father Ted: …OK, one last time. These are small… but the ones out there are far away. Small… far away…
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The other interesting thing she said in the 3AW interview was regard9ng list management and that was club cannot trade away its first round draft pick unless approved by the board
Oh and the silence is absolutely deafening regarding he comments i posted about Speed having no link to the pub crew.
Who's telling porkies?
I believe Malcolm is overseas in Rio at the moment
Errr no
Malcolm was sitting in front of Peggy at last night's game
So who's telling porkies
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The other interesting thing she said in the 3AW interview was regard9ng list management and that was club cannot trade away its first round draft pick unless approved by the board
Oh and the silence is absolutely deafening regarding he comments i posted about Speed having no link to the pub crew.
Who's telling porkies?
I believe Malcolm is overseas in Rio at the moment
Errr no
Malcolm was sitting in front of Peggy at last night's game
So who's telling porkies
Correct. I think it was his wife who won the raffle!
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Rigging raffles now......club's a stuffing shambles....
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The other interesting thing she said in the 3AW interview was regard9ng list management and that was club cannot trade away its first round draft pick unless approved by the board
Oh and the silence is absolutely deafening regarding he comments i posted about Speed having no link to the pub crew.
Who's telling porkies?
I believe Malcolm is overseas in Rio at the moment
Errr no
Malcolm was sitting in front of Peggy at last night's game
So who's telling porkies
Well he was overseas the week before
Only tell you want I was told
I actually couldn't care less
After listening to Mark Choco Williams garbage last night
We aren't in good shape
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Did Williams make a speech at the pre-game function?
What did he say?
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Did Williams make a speech at the pre-game function?
What did he say?
3121 club
Plenty of questions
Funny Dimma says best list he has got
Choco says major changes ahead
Well known players will be traded out he said
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EGM here we come? Giddy up.
Seems the pres is as stubborn as half step. Wonder what she'll do if Benny moves to further his career.
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i can think of only one thing she might do if he decides to leave.
EGM or not the sooner they are replaced the better. Her comments about dimwit last night just proves our delusional she is. Surely she is not that dumb to think they didnt make a mistake in extending his tenure. No one can be that dumb. I mean even every single one of us here agrees it was a bad move, but not these 2 at the top.
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Interesting, she sounded pretty confident.
Also noted Benny Gale looked like he went through 20 pkts of jucyfruit.
Something in the wings??
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Well he was overseas the week before
Only tell you want I was told
I actually couldn't care less
After listening to Mark Choco Williams garbage last night
We aren't in good shape
Facts are O'Neal said that Speed contacted her and EVERY OTHER board member during the week upset & denying any connection to the "Malvern Pub" group
The Malvern Group or the "agitators" as Mick Warner from the HUN called them on 3AW last have implied that Speed will be president if they get the transition they are demanding. The inference is they have spoken to him about this
So I repeat the question who is telling porkies :huh
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Perhaps they want him pres without having spoken to him. Whether he wants to or not is another matter.
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Perhaps they want him pres without having spoken to him.
Which would be very unprofessional, hopefully not a prelude as to how they will run the club if they get in.
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Does Richmond need on and off-field upheaval and blood-letting, asks Mark Robinson
MARK ROBINSON
Herald Sun
August 7, 2016
THE weirdness of football slaps you in the face when you consider Collingwood and Richmond.
Both team are on 32 points, having won eight matches and lost 11, and the angst at both clubs clearly is on different sides of the ledger.
At Richmond, coach Damien Hardwick is under siege and the board, led by Peggy O’Neal, is staring at an extraordinary general meeting because a group, now known as the Malvern crew, thinks the board needs change.
The difference between Richmond and Collingwood is that Richmond has made finals in the past three seasons and expectation has fuelled the current volcanic emotion about the Tigers.
It’s dangerous to take sides in a board battle, but how anyone can pot the board for wiping out a $5 million debt, enticing 70,000 members and building a successful operation off-field is beyond belief.
Change is important. Change because a group of people wants new ideas and direction at the club is beyond reasonable argument.
That said, there will be change of personnel at board level. At least two directors will retire and there will be robust manoeuvring from both inside and outside the club about filling those positions.
Damien Hardwick will coach in 2017 so the noise about whether he should or shouldn’t is largely irrelevant.
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If there is an extraordinary general meeting, then there will be upheaval. The new group, if it gets up, will probably want to sack Hardwick.
If successful with its ambitions, it will cost the club a million bucks to sack the coach. They want a bloodless coup. But there’s nothing of the sort.
Upheaval indeed looms, which the club and the AFL don’t want a bar of.
There are two battle fronts at Richmond.
Board spills take no prisoners. Already, prominent Richmond fan Joe Russo has had a character assassination from media figures. I don’t know Russo, but if you believe what you read, he is an associate - don’t you love that word - of allegedly unsavoury types.
Those who know Russo say he is a sincere and honourable man who only wants what’s best for Richmond and who is now considering legal action against said media types for their portrayal of him.
Anyhow, he’s an early casualty and there probably will be more.
On the field and in the football department, which surely is the area of single most concern, the Tigers are in a spot.
It’s weird again that some of the commentary now says Friday night’s win over Collingwood was just “one game” and it covers the cracks.
But just imagine if the Tigers lost by 90 points. That one game would’ve possibly been a coach killer.
So if a loss was supposedly so alarming, then surely the win has to deliver a sense of reassurance.
The point is, Hardwick and his team were under siege and 22 young men stood up against a team which had been playing pretty solid football since the bye break.
Four goals behind after 10 minutes, they could’ve easily found it too hard. They didn’t. It wasn’t a win for the ages, but don’t dismiss it as just another game.
Tigers fans saw what they wanted to see. In the second quarter, three Tigers gang-tackled Rupert Wills and the Tigers won the free kick. Albeit frustrating because we don’t see it every week, it was the kind of approach that gives hope for the future.
Yes, there will significant change in the football department at the end of the season. Assistant coaches will go and recruiting and development will be savagely assessed. Still, the argument surrounds the coach.
Hardwick is an interesting type. He doesn’t care about “external noise’’ and sometimes gives the impression that only he knows what’s right for Richmond and everyone else can get stuffed.
He’s been accused of giving mixed messages this season, but a season of mixed results can do that. He has stuck fat, however, with his belief that his team had to change personnel and, because the results dictated it, he has played plenty of kids.
They were on offer against the Magpies: Markov, Marcon, Short and in recent weeks we have seen Castagna, Drummond and over the season the emergence of Daniel Rioli, Corey Ellis and Connor Menadue. There’s eight kids. There’s the immediate future.
Hardwick will coach in 2017 so the noise about whether he should or shouldn’t is largely irrelevant. I’m not fussed either way, but the symbolism of Hardwick
being swamped by his players in the rooms in the post-match is too powerful to ignore.
The win and the emotion is one of the reasons why Peggy O’Neal won’t really be drawn on the coach. Because to her it’s not an issue.
No, her concern is the board.
In her presidential speech on Friday night, O’Neal urged for stability.
“Stability at this club has been important,’’ she said. “Good clubs are stable clubs and it has been a key to our improved performance on and off the field in recent years.
“Stability and change actually go hand-in-hand. Stability allows change.
“Instability and change become chaos and I refuse to let that happen to this club. Some have tried to suggest that stability has come at the expense of change. That is utter nonsense. This is a very different club to the one it was even as recently as four years ago.’’
Inspiring words won’t quell the agitators, however.
If, after one terribly disappointing season, the agitators want to turn the club upside down, then they can knock themselves out with their endeavours.
But does one bad season require such upheaval?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/does-richmond-need-on-and-offfield-upheaval-and-bloodletting-asks-mark-robinson/news-story/833b6eb3a82c6172c78a3a01d24a7931
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One bad season?
Does Flobbo think that finishing 8th or 7th in an 18 team competition is the definition of success?
Here in lies the problem. We have never tackled hard enough, shepherded, blocked, run to space and use the fat side when attacking anywhere near enough to ever be a side capable of finishing top 4.
Our coaches have often taken the flair out of player's games.
I think that these things are what people agitate about. That and the refusal to play obviously talented youngsters but instead opting for senior types that have had way too many chances....
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yeah but its a lot easier for the media to simplistic calling it baying for blood, bloodletting an over reaction etc - even Rohan connelly whose work I havent minded for a few yrs now opened up with the - it takes me back to when I first started footy - some things never change blah blah blah
stuffing parasites
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One bad season?
Does Flobbo think that finishing 8th or 7th in an 18 team competition is the definition of success?
Yep and this is the problem. The bar really is set low at tigerland. Making the finals is an over achievement for us which needs to be celebrated. Give the coach and the current board the keys to the city coz we made the 8. Pretty sick of reading this year was disappointing and the past 3 years were a success. The media jump on and portray it as fact. The biggest disappointment though is that the "silent majority" who have been accustomed to accepting such a low bar are lapping up the spin and accept it as truth.
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Well he was overseas the week before
Only tell you want I was told
I actually couldn't care less
After listening to Mark Choco Williams garbage last night
We aren't in good shape
Facts are O'Neal said that Speed contacted her and EVERY OTHER board member during the week upset & denying any connection to the "Malvern Pub" group
The Malvern Group or the "agitators" as Mick Warner from the HUN called them on 3AW last have implied that Speed will be president if they get the transition they are demanding. The inference is they have spoken to him about this
So I repeat the question who is telling porkies :huh
I personally don't care who tell what
My OPINION is that the boys/mates club at Punt Rd needs to end
I blame the current board for the operations of the footy and recruiting department
That's only my opinion
I was also told that Speed would become President
Personally I would keep Hardwick but remove his mates from the footy department
If the current board think the footy dept is on track
Well they need to be outed
Carlton have worse list but are better performing with a game plan
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Stick it up em Peggy!
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The Malvern Group or the "agitators" as Mick Warner from the HUN called them on 3AW last have implied that Speed will be president if they get the transition they are demanding. The inference is they have spoken to him about this
So I repeat the question who is telling porkies :huh
So you are basing everything on an inference? How subjective and not at all a porkie...
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The Malvern Group or the "agitators" as Mick Warner from the HUN called them on 3AW last have implied that Speed will be president if they get the transition they are demanding. The inference is they have spoken to him about this
So I repeat the question who is telling porkies :huh
So you are basing everything on an inference? How subjective and not at all a porkie...
Maybe i should have used the term "implied" because that's what the pub crew have implied and people on here have psoted as fact
So someone is clearly telling porkies
Speed in todays HUN says he hasnt spoken to the pub crew so.... :whistle
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My information " pub crew" had spoken to him
That's what I was told
I really don't care who is right , who tell porkies etc
In my opinion there needs to be a change at punt Rd
Only my opinion
Don't know if my opinion is a fact or am I telling a porkie
😉
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But u also apparently reckon , the following would get a game at a top 4 club-
« on: Today at 03:50:48 PM »
Grigg, Hampson , Hunt , Vickery , Ellis
Which shows you may not have a. Intimate relationship with reality.
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But u also apparently reckon , the following would get a game at a top 4 club-
« on: Today at 03:50:48 PM »
Grigg, Hampson , Hunt , Vickery , Ellis
Which shows you may not have a. Intimate relationship with reality.
Well smart behind
Grigg would get a short term contract in a top 4 club , why ?
Well known in " footy circles " that his GPS is through the roof in most games
FACT
Would fit in well at Hawthorn
Don't be surprised if they Hawks have s go due to Chris Newman and Nathan Foley being there
Hawks also took a broken down hack like Hale at the age of 28 and turned him into a premiership player
Vickery would be a good fit for North as Petrie and Waite don't look like going on next year
Ellis would also fit in well at a West Coast due to his running ability which has been completely lost this year - bad coaching
Taylor Hunt left the cats as a 24yo
Played 63 games in 4 years
Say no more
He can play
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Grigg spoken to already by West Coast
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Shaun or Mitch?
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Grigg spoken to already by West Coast
Prefers to stay in Melbourne
Young family as well
Parents baby sit etc
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As if you actually know....any fool could just surmise that...
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Grigg spoken to already by West Coast
:snidegrin
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As if you actually know....any fool could just surmise that...
Plenty of fools surmise plenty of things - it's called a forum. Not sure why this is picked up isolation of everything else posted...,
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As if you actually know....any fool could just surmise that...
I do actually
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LMAO at Peggy admitting they've only hAlf achieved their plan but not realizing
that's a fail.
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As if you actually know....any fool could just surmise that...
Plenty of fools surmise plenty of things - it's called a forum. Not sure why this is picked up isolation of everything else posted...,
HRT Perhaps it's Jackstars repeated erroneous track record of false claims which is puported to be accurate inside knowledge?
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It's fact when there is a winky face.
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As if you actually know....any fool could just surmise that...
Plenty of fools surmise plenty of things - it's called a forum. Not sure why this is picked up isolation of everything else posted...,
HRT Perhaps it's Jackstars repeated erroneous track record of false claims which is puported to be accurate inside knowledge?
😉👍🐯
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My information " pub crew" had spoken to him
That's what I was told
I really don't care who is right , who tell porkies etc
In my opinion there needs to be a change at punt Rd
Only my opinion
Don't know if my opinion is a fact or am I telling a porkie
😉
Getting a bit sensitive their Jack
No issue with your opinion
But you have again said the pub crew have spoken to Speed. You are saying this is true, that it is a fact
Speed has denied this.
So clearly someone is telling porkies, either Speed or the pub crew
I am not whacking you but you are defending them as if everything they say is true
I just think we have a right to know who is or isnt telling the truth
We are talking about people who want to sit on the board of the footy club we all love, think we deserve better than the tripe that is being dished up by all sides at the moment
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Taylor Hunt got dropped at the cats as a 24yo
EFA
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I was told they had spoken to Speed
Also told they sounded KB
Before KB said anything
So fair to say the information is more likely correct
Press hasn't mentioned TV personality who they have sort his support
I have mentioned to a few on OER but won't post
Leave it at that
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Press hasn't mentioned TV personality who they have sort his support
I have mentioned to a few on OER but won't post
Leave it at that
Look at me, look at me
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I was told they had spoken to Speed
Also told they sounded KB
Before KB said anything
So fair to say the information is more likely correct
Press hasn't mentioned TV personality who they have sort his support
I have mentioned to a few on OER but won't post
Leave it at that
When is KB going to apologize to Dusty?
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If you're going to message them to keep it private then why bother telling everyone what you've messaged them about without giving the details. A lot of FIGJAM going on
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If you're going to message them to keep it private then why bother telling everyone what you've messaged them about without giving the details. A lot of FIGJAM going on
Nice deleted post so that this reply looks out of place :wallywink
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:lol
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Email update: no link
Thank you for your support in wanting to make a positive difference to the Richmond Football Club - for all Tiger supporters.
The idea of the Richmond Rollercoaster was to build support for much needed changes to the board of the Richmond Football Club. We wanted to ensure the people in key positions at the club looked beyond self-interest and survival mode to seek opportunities that will benefit the club and not just themselves.
This was not about one particular person, it was about starting the necessary conversations and encouraging the right Richmond people to come forward to lead the Richmond Football Club and put an end to the rollercoaster ride we have endured for too long. It’s important the club is open and honest and does not make the same mistakes over and over again.
Thanks to you and over a thousand others involved in the Richmond Rollercoaster, it has achieved what we wanted.
As has been discussed in the media, over the last two weeks a number of prominent and well-qualified Richmond supporters have met and are currently finalising their plans to make these changes and stop the acceptance of mediocrity in all areas of the club.
Unfortunately some in the media, in supporting their friends and their own self-interest ahead of what is best for the club, have been very critical of the call for change and have attacked individuals involved in these discussions. This is not what this is about; this is about no longer accepting the ‘stability' that has led to complacency throughout the club. Board spills take no prisoners. As we’ve seen Joe Russo experienced an attempt at character assassination from media figures. Those who know him recognise he is a sincere and honourable man who only wants what’s best for Richmond. He is also a dynamic businessman who has already developed a number of exciting, intelligent commercial and strategic ideas to bring success to our club. Unfortunately it seems the hatchet job on Joe Russo might prevent us from using his talents.
It is now up to the prominent supporters working to build on the call for change and ensure Richmond members have a real choice in the regeneration of the Richmond Football Club.
Thank you again for being involved in the Richmond Rollercoaster, the conversations have started and we now look forward to a brighter and better future on and off the field.
Go Tigers
Leon Davies
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As has been discussed in the media, over the last two weeks a number of prominent and well-qualified Richmond supporters have met and are currently finalising their plans to make these changes and stop the acceptance of mediocrity in all areas of the club.
Well qualified for what? Qualified to be supporters? To be on the board? If he's referring to outside footy, then what the stuff does it matter.
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And what happens if the "changes" aren't acceptable to people like Mr Davies?
You know these "prominent and well qualified Richmond supporters" what happens if their "changes" arent enough, don't meet expectations?
Another website? Another Pub meeting?
Some of the comments in the HUN on Sunday attributed to the players in this saga left me doing alot of this :huh3
Interesting times ahead
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WP he already knows who they are
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WP he already knows who they are
Who Mr Davies?
Yeah im sure he does. He made that obvious in his interview on SEN and then via the quotes in the HUN. As lojg as je knows then all is well with the world
As i Said and this was my point what happens if Mr Davies and people like you Harry arent happy with what happens? The "results" are not what you think they should be?
It's very clear people have certain expectations, sometimes we dont always get what we want or expect
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cage rattlers and chimps with tin cans making a racket
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Club not a pub chook raffle
Patrick Smith
The Australian
18 August 2016
The man leaned against the wooden fence, safe that he could not be seen by the group of men entering the pub across the road. His Tigers jumper helped keep out the bitter winter wind that chilled the air.
It was the second time in three days he had watched the goings on at the suburban pub. Some five minutes after the last person had entered, the man stopped observing and started walking. He stood at the pub door for a moment and said softly: “Jock Dyer.”
A security man inside, suspecting a ring-in, said: “They’re not the passwords.” The man from across the street, pulling down hard on his beanie, replied: “I know, it’s my name. The passwords are: ‘How stupid do we look now’.”
With that the door swung open and a wall of heat hit the man from across the street. A pile of Richmond members’ tickets burnt in the fireplace. The Richmond plotters had gathered to figure out their next move to overthrow the board.
First, the minutes from the last meeting. The chicken parmigiana had been considered an overwhelming success and so it was to be served again that night. “Here, here,” said the more heavyset men present, banging their knives and forks on the table in anticipation.
Second, the meeting had considered the publicity gained in the newspapers, TV and radio had been beyond expectation.
Someone called Joe Russo got to his feet. “Given that we had no idea what we were talking about and given that we had nothing whatsoever to say I think we are entitled to pat each other on the back for convincing the majority of the media that we were about to overturn the board.”
Someone called Russo continued: “I think it would be remiss of us not to congratulate Bobby Davies for his work in spreading the word about the inadequacies of the present Richmond board. I think his work, especially on SEN sport radio, was remarkably nonsensical. Let’s put our hands together for Billy.”
A ripple of applause evaporated as lamely as it began and stopped altogether when a gentleman — well-dressed and from a famous family associated with the club — tapped his monocle on the table. And broke it — the monocle that is. So he asked his butler to bring the meeting to attention.
Which Jeeves did. The man from a very famous family long associated with the club told the room full of men from other very famous families long associated with the club: “The man of which you speak is not Bobby Davies, not Billy Davies but someone called Liam Davies.”
Some of the men, hurt by the rebuke, said Davies hadn’t made it easy by burning his member’s ticket.
Finally, the meeting got to what it couldn’t avoid. That despite the fawning media picturing them as crusaders for all that is good in football and for the Richmond Football Club, the conspirators hadn’t achieved anything. Peggy O’Neal was still a very capable president admired by the AFL, the board itself was considered just about the best in the business, debt had been paid off, membership had soared, training and administration facilities refurbished. When the man from a very famous family associated with the club said “I could go on and on” he was clubbed to death. The injury list was growing.
It was then decided it would be wise to review where Operation Stuff-Up had gone wrong. First, it was agreed that the tactic of claiming the board hadn’t changed for 10 years had backfired. There had been three new directors in the past three years for starters and there’s likely to be two more next year. “Who knew?” said one of the men from a very famous family associated with the club.
A slightly angry voice joined the debate. “I don’t think it helped much either when Billy Bob Davies said the fact that the board was stable was the very weakness of the club. You know that didn’t make sense.
“Nor did us saying we felt the board required a juggler, ventriloquist and a village idiot to broaden board views help our credibility,” said the man. “And I think we could have made a better case of diversity on the board if we actually had a woman on our ticket when the club already had a female as head of the board.”
Then Jock Dyer, the man who had watched the plotters gather from across the street, got to his feet and asked: “By the way, has anybody here spoken to any official at the club? Has anybody gone to the club with our thoughts about some new ideas? Or has everybody just yapped to the media?” Not a word. Not from anyone.
After a long and awkward silence men from very famous families associated with the club bolted for the doors never to be heard of again. And thus a lot of very nice chicken parmigiana was wasted.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/patrick-smith/night-of-long-knives-ends-with-tigers-wearing-their-parmigiana/news-story/ba6371ebf7fc2eb56c058331d2dca8cc
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I know a lot of people will whack Patrick Smith
But that is a funny article.... and BTW I get the point he is trying to make
But's it still very funny :lol
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Patrick is wasting his talents at the Australian. He should be a writer / producer on 2 broke girls
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Look I called this early, ie a bunch of impotent circle jerkers and Smith is right on the money here
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Smith would have a good handle on jerking
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Hilarity, just what I thought a bunch of horse scat
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Funny how some take whacks at the coup bunch for raising issues, while they
Sit on a footy forum, saying things like
"I called this" ! ( how many times need u say this about things)
Taking care of business in such a better way. :rollin :lol :wallywink
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Joe Russo looking at his legal options as we speak :shh
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It's more insecurity than legal