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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 27, 2024, 07:57:57 PM
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I’ve seen enough. A slight upgrade on Mini.
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Lmao, joke of the day.
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Melbourne Culture.... :shh
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Some folks really struggle with the concept of
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OER culture.... :shh
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I hate this sort of rubbish for the fact it's just sheer stupidity, regardless if its for a laugh or not.
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I hate this sort of rubbish for the fact it's just sheer stupidity, regardless if its for a laugh or not.
Agree
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:lol
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I stand by my thread. More valid than most posts let alone threads posted this year.
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Well it had to start sometime
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Well it had to start sometime
Leaving the job up to others now .....poor effort Chucky - lift your game .... :shh
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Frankly, I got sick of waiting for you Chucky
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Gold Coast board on Bigfruity started the sack Dimma thread yet? Dew point was doing better than this.
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Seen enough must go
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Seen enough must go
He’s lost the players
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NGMI. :shh
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I give him 2 years.
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When was the last time Weagels kicked 8 in a quarter?
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So much sprooking about being a hard team to play against.. they are dancing with us
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*Wants to be hard to play against*
*Picks Shortsteps & Ralphshyte in the same side*
:propeller
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Still have no idea what he stands for as a coach. Hasn't stamped any distinction that gives me pause for positive reflection.
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*Wants to be hard to play against*
*Picks Shortsteps & Ralphshyte in the same side*
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Check the injury list, cmon. Yze has had one of the hardest starts to a coaching career. Considering our list I think we have been tough to play against. Been in every game but the gold coast one, and we were much better after half time. This game against wce might be a shocker but look at the stuffing injury list
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*Wants to be hard to play against*
*Picks Shortsteps & Ralphshyte in the same side*
:propeller
Check the injury list, cmon. Yze has had one of the hardest starts to a coaching career. Considering our list I think we have been tough to play against. Been in every game but the gold coast one, and we were much better after half time. This game against wce might be a shocker but look at the stuffing injury list
I'm not sure but this comment sound suspiciously like an excuse for our current state. :rollin
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*Wants to be hard to play against*
*Picks Shortsteps & Ralphshyte in the same side*
:propeller
Check the injury list, cmon. Yze has had one of the hardest starts to a coaching career. Considering our list I think we have been tough to play against. Been in every game but the gold coast one, and we were much better after half time. This game against wce might be a shocker but look at the stuffing injury list
I'm not sure but this comment sound suspiciously like an excuse for our current state. :rollin
As in injuries have effected how we are playing ? Yep I’m a genius
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He is there to get us draft picks
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Well I hope we keep our cojones and our draft picks and get a top 5 pick or 3 over the next few years. We sure need em.
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*Wants to be hard to play against*
*Picks Shortsteps & Ralphshyte in the same side*
:propeller
Check the injury list, cmon. Yze has had one of the hardest starts to a coaching career. Considering our list I think we have been tough to play against. Been in every game but the gold coast one, and we were much better after half time. This game against wce might be a shocker but look at the stuffing injury list
I'm not sure but this comment sound suspiciously like an excuse for our current state. :rollin
As in injuries have effected how we are playing ? Yep I’m a genius
Hypothetical question.
If all were fit who would be in the team and who else should be dropped.
If need be at some stage we play every small forward we have and weed out those who will not take us anywhere.
For me if all were fit the players who are regulars and currently getting games would no longer be selected. They are
Pickett, McIntosh, Young, Graham, Mansell, Dow, Kosi, Short, Ralphsmith, and MRJ. Add to this list injured Prestia this has to be the end of the line so just get games into kids. None are going to take us forward and we should be aiming for some sort of upgrade on all of them.
If all were fit id be looking at something like this.
Vlastuin - Miller - Gibcus
Brown - Balta - Trezise/Smith
D Rioli - Taranto - Broad
Nankervis - Martin - Bolton
Campbell - Lefau - Coulthard
Cumberland - Lynch - Bauer/Ryan
Hopper - Baker - Ross - McAuliffe - Sonsie - Clarke - Banks.
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*Wants to be hard to play against*
*Picks Shortsteps & Ralphshyte in the same side*
:propeller
Check the injury list, cmon. Yze has had one of the hardest starts to a coaching career. Considering our list I think we have been tough to play against. Been in every game but the gold coast one, and we were much better after half time. This game against wce might be a shocker but look at the stuffing injury list
I'm not sure but this comment sound suspiciously like an excuse for our current state. :rollin
As in injuries have effected how we are playing ? Yep I’m a genius
Hypothetical question.
If all were fit who would be in the team and who else should be dropped.
If need be at some stage we play every small forward we have and weed out those who will not take us anywhere.
For me if all were fit the players who are regulars and currently getting games would no longer be selected. They are
Pickett, McIntosh, Young, Graham, Mansell, Dow, Kosi, Short, Ralphsmith, and MRJ. Add to this list injured Prestia this has to be the end of the line so just get games into kids. None are going to take us forward and we should be aiming for some sort of upgrade on all of them.
If all were fit id be looking at something like this.
Vlastuin - Miller - Gibcus
Brown - Balta - Trezise/Smith
D Rioli - Taranto - Broad
Nankervis - Martin - Bolton
Campbell - Lefau - Coulthard
Cumberland - Lynch - Bauer/Ryan
Hopper - Baker - Ross - McAuliffe - Sonsie - Clarke - Banks.
I agree with most but I don’t see why you want to play coulthard and Cumberland ? While I think they both should be given a chance this year, neither have done anything at vfl level. Maurice is clearly gaining momentum and showing improvement so why would you not play him? Likewise with Mansell.
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Need to see what they can do. Yeah it's not ideal rewarding average form but when you've got senior players who have done nothing for a long time then I reckon we grow a set and send them to the reserves. Give the kids with talent a go and back 'em in for a block of games
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If we replace the senior guys with kids who have no form in the 2’s we will be a laughing stock , it doesn’t worry me as I thought this fall was inevitable , but if anyone expects us to be competitive with mainly kids is delusional.
The reason you have the 2’s is for players to gain experience and confidence leading to form that’s good enough to play 1’s
To argue against myself , we might just have to play them all if we get s few more injuries.
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You tell me the benefit of playing Mcintosh, Pickett etc vs playing a young bloke?
I mean, you lay out the positives and maybe I'll change my view. Why does it matter if we're a laughing stock? We're already at the arse end of the ladder and that's where we shall remain this year regardless of selections. It's not as if Coulthard or Cumberland haven't shown that they can play...they can. They could have a future. Bring them in and any other half decent kid and drop the underperforming senior players.
As important as earning a game is, it's important to perform to keep yourself a game of senior footy. We have too many senior players not performing.
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Why is this thread 3 pages already. FFS Yze isn't going anywhere. He was delivered a poo sandwich without the bread by Dimma when he bailed and will do a great job long-term. Close thread
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Why is this thread 3 pages already. FFS Yze isn't going anywhere. He was delivered a poo sandwich without the bread by Dimma when he bailed and will do a great job long-term. Close thread
You don't understand the tradition
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You tell me the benefit of playing Mcintosh, Pickett etc vs playing a young bloke?
I mean, you lay out the positives and maybe I'll change my view. Why does it matter if we're a laughing stock? We're already at the arse end of the ladder and that's where we shall remain this year regardless of selections. It's not as if Coulthard or Cumberland haven't shown that they can play...they can. They could have a future. Bring them in and any other half decent kid and drop the underperforming senior players.
As important as earning a game is, it's important to perform to keep yourself a game of senior footy. We have too many senior players not performing.
The only positive I have seen people raise is to get him to 100 just on the chance that his boys end up being gun footballers. I wouldn’t mind that if he only needed a handful of games to get there but he has to play almost every game this season. At the very least, make the guy the sub. Him and kmac haven’t been in form other than the odd game here or there for 3 seasons.
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Agree.
Don't think some of these old boys would be overly confident with their footy at the moment either given their form. Wouldn't hurt them to go back to the 2's and rack up some kicks and get some enjoyment back in their game
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If we replace the senior guys with kids who have no form in the 2’s we will be a laughing stock , it doesn’t worry me as I thought this fall was inevitable , but if anyone expects us to be competitive with mainly kids is delusional.
The reason you have the 2’s is for players to gain experience and confidence leading to form that’s good enough to play 1’s
To argue against myself , we might just have to play them all if we get s few more injuries.
Who is expecting us to be competetive. Where has anyone even said that.
More than any other club in the whole comp we need to get games into what good kids we have and we need to find out about others who have been there for awhile.
Playing senior players who should be retired or delisted at seasons end is utterly ridiculous.
We all know where we are at and we all know hidings are on the cards weather we play seniors or not.
This is what we are down to because there is no one else.
Vlastuin - Miller - Grimes. Why not dump Young who has been horrid and try Koschitzke in defense he is hardly a kid.
Brown# - Kossie - Smith#. Why would you not pick Smith for Short injured. he has been great the last three games.
D Rioli - Martin - Broad. Why not dump McIntosh and Pickett who have- been horrid and replace them with two experienced players.
Nankervis - Hopper - Bolton.
Campbell - Lefau - Mansell/Coulthard Mansell is not a long term solution so why not Coulthard who is aged 22.
Naismith - Ryan - Cumberland/MRJ. Wtf Ryan has kicked 7 goals in two games and is a 23 year old.. Naismith is probably winning the VFL b/f. MRJ has been poor imo and Cumberland is a 23 yr old.
Sonsie# - McAuliffe# - Baker - Graham
That team has only a handful of kids if any thing it would be just as old as most teams we have picked. What it does do to a degree is stop rewarding horrid performances from underwhelming seniors and we get some games into kids with adequate numbers of seniors around them.We find out what others have to offer at the level.
Of course this side will get belted just like we got belted last week with all those senior hacks stinking it up.
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Hypothetical question.
If all were fit who would be in the team and who else should be dropped.
If need be at some stage we play every small forward we have and weed out those who will not take us anywhere.
For me if all were fit the players who are regulars and currently getting games would no longer be selected. They are
Pickett, McIntosh, Young, Graham, Mansell, Dow, Kosi, Short, Ralphsmith, and MRJ. Add to this list injured Prestia this has to be the end of the line so just get games into kids. None are going to take us forward and we should be aiming for some sort of upgrade on all of them.
If all were fit id be looking at something like this.
Vlastuin - Miller - Gibcus
Brown - Balta - Trezise/Smith
D Rioli - Taranto - Broad
Nankervis - Martin - Bolton
Campbell - Lefau - Coulthard
Cumberland - Lynch - Bauer/Ryan
Hopper - Baker - Ross - McAuliffe - Sonsie - Clarke - Banks.
Ill take it as hypothetical, but we would get our arse kicked each week. We would fail to kick a score and our backline would leak like a seive with that number of games in it. I'm not sure the experience would be any use for the kids either as most games would be junk time from about half time onwards when we're 5 - 10 goals down.
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Hypothetical question.
If all were fit who would be in the team and who else should be dropped.
If need be at some stage we play every small forward we have and weed out those who will not take us anywhere.
For me if all were fit the players who are regulars and currently getting games would no longer be selected. They are
Pickett, McIntosh, Young, Graham, Mansell, Dow, Kosi, Short, Ralphsmith, and MRJ. Add to this list injured Prestia this has to be the end of the line so just get games into kids. None are going to take us forward and we should be aiming for some sort of upgrade on all of them.
If all were fit id be looking at something like this.
Vlastuin - Miller - Gibcus
Brown - Balta - Trezise/Smith
D Rioli - Taranto - Broad
Nankervis - Martin - Bolton
Campbell - Lefau - Coulthard
Cumberland - Lynch - Bauer/Ryan
Hopper - Baker - Ross - McAuliffe - Sonsie - Clarke - Banks.
Ill take it as hypothetical, but we would get our arse kicked each week. We would fail to kick a score and our backline would leak like a seive with that number of games in it. I'm not sure the experience would be any use for the kids either as most games would be junk time from about half time onwards when we're 5 - 10 goals down.
The last time i looked we have won one game!!!!! we are getting our arse kicked each week.
We do fail to kick scores that is from the start of the year. so if we play more kids whats the difference.
Yes it is an inexperinced back line. Its inexperienced because of injuries. The only question is do we keep playing short step poos his pants or do we give a kid Smith a game in his place who is currently in good form or do we give Maybe Trezise more games once he is back Do we stop playing Brown who is showing great promise he is not playing in any winning games so the expeience he is gaining is worthless is it.
why would we not shore up the defense with Balta, what you want to keep playing Grimes and Young. How poor do they have to get before we act.
Do we just persevere with McIntosh and Pickett or do we do something about their form and do something different.
What do you mean your not sure the experience will help them. One game of Afl would be worth 10 vfl games as far as experience goes. Games into them now would stand them in great stead for next year. We are not making finals again.
Will we get beat of course but like ive mentioned we are regularly getting beat anyway.
Is Miller Gibcus and Balta not our three best tall Defenders. That is the tall set up for many years to come if Miller can keep improving at the level.
Vlastuin is just about the only good medium defender we have.Broad on a wing plays defensive wing allowing Brown to play his old role. Rioli also can play defensive wing but you would like him to be our attacking wingman atm. any one would be better than McIntosh and Pickett on the wing.Are they the future do you want them playing there next year if not then play Trezise and Smith and Brown get games into them.
While i respect your opinion i think the 25 players i named are the best we have going forward. I expect a lot of losses but who cares, who gives a stuff if other supporters laugh we do what imo needs to be done.
This year will be year four since our last flag and its just my humble opinion we have not yet bottomed out.
The longer we delay hard decisions the longer we will stay near the bottom. Atm we could easily do a carlton, how long has it been for them or Essendon. How long did it take us last time.
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If we replace the senior guys with kids who have no form in the 2’s we will be a laughing stock , it doesn’t worry me as I thought this fall was inevitable , but if anyone expects us to be competitive with mainly kids is delusional.
The reason you have the 2’s is for players to gain experience and confidence leading to form that’s good enough to play 1’s
To argue against myself , we might just have to play them all if we get s few more injuries.
Campbell - Lefau - Mansell/Coulthard Mansell is not a long term solution so why not Coulthard who is aged 22.
You’re right, let’s replace a 23 y.o with a 22 y.o. Mansell is way past his development stage now
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If we replace the senior guys with kids who have no form in the 2’s we will be a laughing stock , it doesn’t worry me as I thought this fall was inevitable , but if anyone expects us to be competitive with mainly kids is delusional.
The reason you have the 2’s is for players to gain experience and confidence leading to form that’s good enough to play 1’s
To argue against myself , we might just have to play them all if we get s few more injuries.
Campbell - Lefau - Mansell/Coulthard Mansell is not a long term solution so why not Coulthard who is aged 22.
You’re right, let’s replace a 23 y.o with a 22 y.o. Mansell is way past his development stage now
I think you totally miss the point Mansell to date has shown himself to be a totally limited player. he is already 23 soon to be 24 and he is not going to improve. He has had what 37 games and im sorry but my opinion is not too high on what he has to offer after those 37 games.
Here we have people talking about kicking goals and he is a part of that problem. Just want to try others who hopefully have attributes that may make them upgrades on him. I think Cumberland who is a similar age Coulthard clarke have better attributes for the forward role and have had very little exposure at the level. enough of the one dimensional role players who may bring effort and a bit of pressure but little else.We need em to do more than just that.
Atm we are a bottom dweller so we had damn well better get over limited role players and start looking for upgrades at the least just my opinion of course. Seems to me we dump all of our battlers and strugglers in other positions in the fwd half and wonder why we struggle to kick goals.
Is it really too much to ask that our forwards are for starters forwards and are well rounded forwards and not these blokes who only bring one thing to the table.
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Mark2 Neeld - Gutless & clueless - stuff him off. :thumbsdown
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Last chance saloon for Yze tomorrow
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Last chance saloon for Yze tomorrow
lol wut
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Last chance saloon for Yze tomorrow
Already outstayed his welcome Chucky....needs to go before the first bounce - give Newy the caretaker gig then make another play for Josh Carr.......#enoughisenough :shh
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I called this
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If he keeps picking Ralphsmith, McIntosh and Young then I’ll be contributing more to this thread.
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Sign him up for 10 years
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I'm starting to get a feel for the Yze game style.
1. Nank to tap to the opposition mid and use the one arm tackle to impede until they get a clearance forward.
2. Defensive players are to employ an ultra high zone so as to allow free opposition players space to run into.
3. Hand pass to anyone that is in a worse predicament that yourself.
4. Kick inside 50 straight to anyone from the other team.
5. Take a slow approach and move the ball slowly allowing the opposing team to flood back
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I'm starting to get a feel for the Yze game style.
1. Nank to tap to the opposition mid and use the one arm tackle to impede until they get a clearance forward.
2. Defensive players are to employ an ultra high zone so as to allow free opposition players space to run into.
3. Hand pass to anyone that is in a worse predicament that yourself.
4. Kick inside 50 straight to anyone from the other team.
5. Take a slow approach and move the ball slowly allowing the opposing team to flood back
Well it’s worked to half time
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I'm starting to get a feel for the Yze game style.
1. Nank to tap to the opposition mid and use the one arm tackle to impede until they get a clearance forward.
2. Defensive players are to employ an ultra high zone so as to allow free opposition players space to run into.
3. Hand pass to anyone that is in a worse predicament that yourself.
4. Kick inside 50 straight to anyone from the other team.
5. Take a slow approach and move the ball slowly allowing the opposing team to flood back
Well it’s worked to half time
Agree chuckster I thought they were great till half time.It was always in the back of the mind though just how big the margin would be.
As was to be expected
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He knows we're we a that we need to rejuvenate even through I like to see more kids. Good to see backs the kids and makes moves. Pickett on Petracca we haven't tagged in years.Banks on Langdon on the wing good lesson. Good sign our youngsters are improving Rioli, Brown, Miller etc.He needs a couple of drafts and hit free agency and sort this garbage in our fitness and conditioning and medical department and add couple of his assistant coaches. With the players available at the moment his got good football brain considering.
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I would like to see him a ground level when momentum is going the other way. Talk to the players directly, fire them up. He doesn't bother. Concerns me a bit...
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It feels as though Ooze is just feeling his way through it ATM. It's hard to play the way you want when most the team is missing or not skilled enough.
His reactions in the box when he is shown on TV are really still quite controlled. Even the way he keeps pumping the players up after the game, he definately has a strategy in mind.
I reckon give him this year to find his feet, practise his press conference speeches, implement whatever gameplan he thinks going fwd and then hopefully start having real input internally with coach selection, player selection etc. Then if nothing appears to change we start to beat the jungle drums and call for his head :rollin
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I think he is doing pretty well with current cattle. No key forwards and down a couple of mids.
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Impressed with the way he goes about it.
Stays calm & is consistent in his approach.
Stategy seems sound & works well with the limited cattle he's got at his disposal even if we don't get the result.
Backing kids in & giving most of them a slab of games to find their feet. Many are improving. Tick.
Makes good changes on game day.
Sees the big picture.
Yze is one of the big plusses in a tough season.
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Don't have an issue with him given the crap he was left with, but FMD cut out the bs talk. That dusty legacy rubbish was garbage.
I would also like him to start making a stand with his staff in the offseason, bring in his own people and fo the leftover rubbish from Dimma like Teague and Meehan.
He needs to stop rewarding players who don't deserve a gig. Naismith should never have played. Give Ryan, Smith and Cumberland a block of games.
The worst thing that can happen is we finish mid table. He won't last long if that occurs as our recruiting guns will likely stuff that up again.
We need to finish bottom 3, collect our gun, trade out strongly and move on.
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I think I understand the “Dusty legacy “ comment.
Dusty had a moment in time where he was superman , the best player in the game . He rightfully deserves his statue . He has given us all such joy .
But we are now entering the 4th season in a row where he is a shadow of his former self . I know there have been major contributing factors like serious internal injuries and personal tragedy.
His career is having a similar trajectory to another once great player- Nate Fyfe .
Despite all this , I get the feeling his football relevance is just fading away . Perhaps being a role model to the next generation of players is the only lever left to pull .
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FJ you can’t say he needs to stop rewarding players who don’t deserve a gig and then in the next line say he should be playing Cumberland.
Naismith may not be the future but he has been playing well in the vfl while Cumberland has been struggling.
I’d also like to see Cumberland in the side as I think he does play better at afl level and it’s essentially his last chance before being delisted, but let’s not pretend it’s about rewarding form.
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I'm big believer in MRJ but there was no way he deserved to play in Coke Zero based on form or standards of professionalism but he did and hasn't looked back since , playing the best footy of his career and finally starting to look like he belongs, worthy of his surname...so you can't really say the same standards are being applied across the board - but they never really are at clubs if analyse the selections/non-selections of ever.....either way Cumberland deserves the same chances MRJ was given....it may pay off or prove the naysayers right..but in this kind of season we've got nothing to lose and everything to gain....apart from that we should be getting as many games into our next generation as we can as quickly as possible....we'll have a glut of retirements and lose a couple more to trades so I'd rather go into next year with them having 20 - 40 games under their belts then just 5-10 or none....because if it's the latter things will get very ugly and start to smell like North & Hawthorn....the worst part is that with all the injuries we cureently have the perfect opportunity/excuse to do it and we're just squandering it trying to rack up meaningless wins or minimise the size of the losses ..... :shh
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FJ you can’t say he needs to stop rewarding players who don’t deserve a gig and then in the next line say he should be playing Cumberland.
Naismith may not be the future but he has been playing well in the vfl while Cumberland has been struggling.
I’d also like to see Cumberland in the side as I think he does play better at afl level and it’s essentially his last chance before being delisted, but let’s not pretend it’s about rewarding form.
Cumberland has played decent games at vfl level and did not get selected. That is an absolute fact and not just this year either. Has played some average ones as well but so has mansell, graham and about 4 other players. Now if its all about form mansell should be omitted this week. Has played 2 very ordinary games hasn't he? Mcintosh, Naismith, Graham, the list goes on.
McAuliffe. Dumped after 1 average game only to then watch as our senior side get smashed by 7 goals. Sonzie...
Ryan is another. Having a cracking season and donuts. In a game we needed forwards a nice guy has been gets selected before him. Crazy.
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Agreed Dio. The bounce can happen but just not this year…
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FJ you can’t say he needs to stop rewarding players who don’t deserve a gig and then in the next line say he should be playing Cumberland.
Naismith may not be the future but he has been playing well in the vfl while Cumberland has been struggling.
I’d also like to see Cumberland in the side as I think he does play better at afl level and it’s essentially his last chance before being delisted, but let’s not pretend it’s about rewarding form.
Cumberland has played decent games at vfl level and did not get selected. That is an absolute fact and not just this year either. Has played some average ones as well but so has mansell, graham and about 4 other players. Now if its all about form mansell should be omitted this week. Has played 2 very ordinary games hasn't he? Mcintosh, Naismith, Graham, the list goes on.
McAuliffe. Dumped after 1 average game only to then watch as our senior side get smashed by 7 goals. Sonzie...
Ryan is another. Having a cracking season and donuts. In a game we needed forwards a nice guy has been gets selected before him. Crazy.
Maybe last year but I don’t think he’s had a good game in the 2s all year, although I could be wrong. At this point since 2022, he’s been ignored by Dimma, mcqualter and yze so there’s obviously some issues there since it’s not just a case of 1 coach digging his heels in and not selecting him.
Ryan I agree, he’s had the form to warrant selection.
Don’t get me started on the decision to drop sonsie and mcauliffe. Absolutely ridiculous decision that makes you question what they’re actually trying to achieve this season.
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They paved the way for Hopalongs demise.
The team selection is mostly pitiful.
If I didn’t know better it appears there are factions choosing players for drafting and the same factions picking the disastrous draftees to play to justify their decisions.
Would love to be a “fly on the wall” at the selection meetings.
When Cumberland was selected last year he always looked “lively”
Sonsie should be played in the middle along with McCauliffe.
Ryan should be in the team
I would rather get beaten with those 4 playing than get beaten with our current selections.
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Still looks & feels like Hardwick is coaching us - not the good Hardwick propped up by quality assistants but the other one..... :shh
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Wonder if he's proud of the boys so far today.
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Dunno what people were expecting.
At best I thought we'd miss the 8 but not be bottom 4.
Best things for us is to get draft picks tbh.
Only criticism of Yze is not playing more kids over the has beens.
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Yze is fantastic, look how happy the boys are . All you see at training is big smiles . Great coach.
I've always believed any person whom when speaks una and arrs in every sentence is and insecure meathead with no brains. Nothing has changed with my opinion.
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Everyone expects us to be bad but the skill error and lack of pressure is inexcusable
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Dunno what people were expecting.
At best I thought we'd miss the 8 but not be bottom 4.
Best things for us is to get draft picks tbh.
Only criticism of Yze is not playing more kids over the has beens.
I was expecting, at best, sneak into 8, but with these injuries, we're exactly where I thought we'd be
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Everyone expects us to be bad but the skill error and lack of pressure is inexcusable
Skills are not important Z what's important is being in a happy environment and always smiling.
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I was expecting no matter what that we have a dip and are very hard to play against.. Yze has been preaching this all year.. just another con artist who made his way to the job.
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Yze keeps banging on his broken record... He maintains after every game every player gets reviewed and they have real honest discussions about it . WHAT A TOTAL FLOG AND LIAR
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This thread is building nicely.
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I'm just stating my observations
You have observed Yze be a flog and a liar?
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This thread is building nicely.
It was, but gets infiltrated BS that's off topic .
Anyway back to the topic
Yze
Everything he's promised he has not delivered.. not one thing.
He's a bluff.
This has nothing to do with winning, all do do with skill levels, game plan and so called honest reviews.
Skills are non existent, game plan was meant to be one that we became a very hard team to play against.. honest reviews, hasn't done one yet
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This thread is building nicely.
I’m not impressed with Yze at all
I will say with injuries he’s been given an impossible task and until today I thought the players had given their all
BUT
A few things said in here are pathetic at best
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This thread is building nicely.
I’m not impressed with Yze at all
I will say with injuries he’s been given an impossible task and until today I thought the players had given their all
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A few things said in here are pathetic at best
Coach taking over at the end of a dynasty and the start of a rebuild without any high end draft picks and injuries at critical mass. People complain that our list management was poor because the writing was on the wall about where we are at but then simultaneously rage over how bad we are.
Agree that there’s a handful of senior players that need to be phased out for the cubs, that’s my 1 complaint.
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He's "allow the opposition to take uncontested marks all day and every week, even when you're 4-5 goals down at the start of the last...." strategy sure is innovative... :shh
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Our defensive structure and defensive mindset is non existent.
Basic defensive instincts are seemingly not a priority.
How anyone can build a team culture without implementing defensive strategy and high standards?
I'm not expecting premiership level implementation but I expect to see some modicum of defensive development. Round 8 and I still cannot see any improvement yet. Seemed to be getting worse.
I'm not sure the players even have clear indication of what they are doing which aren't great signs.
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To be stable we need to stay with YZE, for the next 5 years.
He has inherited coaches and a weak list.
So just have to stay on board
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He won't last three years if he can't identify the problems to start with. When is going to make a hard call or start putting his own stamp into the team. All he has done is follow on from Hardwick you really do have to wonder if others are not running the show.
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He won't last three years if he can't identify the problems to start with. When is going to make a hard call or start putting his own stamp into the team. All he has done is follow on from Hardwick you really do have to wonder if others are not running the show.
Going a bit early here Claw. What else was Yze supposed to do other than follow on from Hardwick? No really, what were your expectations from a rookie coach who just inherited a side that was losing 2 champions to retirement while having a poor draft hand, in the midst of a soft cap crunch thanks to his predecessors.
That takes us through this year & even into late '25 season before we can start lopping off coach's heads for any reason.
But I'll help you out a bit with some more reasonable expectations - Yze hasn't won a flag yet so when is that gunna happen? How long will that be?
Yze hasn't cracked cold fusion yet either ... so hurry up willya! Hasn't fixed the Middle East or invaded China yet ... so what's he been doing then? ::)
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JP he has been very underwhelming. What was expected is not to go down the rabbit hole with an old hacksmith, pickett, kmac plus about 5 others that are not part of the future. He has done exactly the opposite.
Claw said he wont last 3 years, and he is 100% right. The old stable heads will be gone very soon, and we have a president who is lost.
That said im not ready to throw the towel in just yet, but he better start displaying some toughness which was rarely seen in his playing career, or he wont last the journey.
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JP he has been very underwhelming. What was expected is not to go down the rabbit hole with an old hacksmith, pickett, kmac plus about 5 others that are not part of the future. He has done exactly the opposite.
Claw said he wont last 3 years, and he is 100% right. The old stable heads will be gone very soon, and we have a president who is lost.
That said im not ready to throw the towel in just yet, but he better start displaying some toughness which was rarely seen in his playing career, or he wont last the journey.
Yes, because sacking coaches didn't leave us in the wilderness for 35 years. No not at all :whistle :shh
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He won't last three years if he can't identify the problems to start with. When is going to make a hard call or start putting his own stamp into the team. All he has done is follow on from Hardwick you really do have to wonder if others are not running the show.
Come on mate let's be a bit realistic.What a you expecting in half a season. This year was all about trial and error everyone on a clean sheet of paper. Come end of year there will be a clean out of players and offield I reckon. His playing the kids yeah I would like more. Follow on from Dimma that's bs mate his giving alot of opportunities to kids and they have improved.
Inherited a list declining badly
List is short of young talent
Crippled by injuries
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JP he has been very underwhelming. What was expected is not to go down the rabbit hole with an old hacksmith, pickett, kmac plus about 5 others that are not part of the future. He has done exactly the opposite.
Claw said he wont last 3 years, and he is 100% right. The old stable heads will be gone very soon, and we have a president who is lost.
That said im not ready to throw the towel in just yet, but he better start displaying some toughness which was rarely seen in his playing career, or he wont last the journey.
Yes, because sacking coaches didn't leave us in the wilderness for 35 years. No not at all :whistle :shh
really? we sacked Wallace didn't we and Dimma came on board. :wallywink
also 3 years is plenty of time to see some improvement. Claw or i didnt say lets sack him now. 3 years or less is enough to see improvement and development of our kids. If we see the same ability not to apply pressure, and his boring commentary on legends leaving a legacy then he may not be the man for the job.
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JP he has been very underwhelming. What was expected is not to go down the rabbit hole with an old hacksmith, pickett, kmac plus about 5 others that are not part of the future. He has done exactly the opposite.
Claw said he wont last 3 years, and he is 100% right. The old stable heads will be gone very soon, and we have a president who is lost.
That said im not ready to throw the towel in just yet, but he better start displaying some toughness which was rarely seen in his playing career, or he wont last the journey.
Yes, because sacking coaches didn't leave us in the wilderness for 35 years. No not at all :whistle :shh
really? we sacked Wallace didn't we and Dimma came on board. :wallywink
also 3 years is plenty of time to see some improvement. Claw or i didnt say lets sack him now. 3 years or less is enough to see improvement and development of our kids. If we see the same ability not to apply pressure, and his boring commentary on legends leaving a legacy then he may not be the man for the job.
Lol you and many others were calling for Dimma to be shown the door after 4/5 years of his term, so I think we can safely ignore your opinion of Yze after 8 games.
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JP he has been very underwhelming. What was expected is not to go down the rabbit hole with an old hacksmith, pickett, kmac plus about 5 others that are not part of the future. He has done exactly the opposite.
Claw said he wont last 3 years, and he is 100% right. The old stable heads will be gone very soon, and we have a president who is lost.
That said im not ready to throw the towel in just yet, but he better start displaying some toughness which was rarely seen in his playing career, or he wont last the journey.
Yes, because sacking coaches didn't leave us in the wilderness for 35 years. No not at all :whistle :shh
really? we sacked Wallace didn't we and Dimma came on board. :wallywink
also 3 years is plenty of time to see some improvement. Claw or i didnt say lets sack him now. 3 years or less is enough to see improvement and development of our kids. If we see the same ability not to apply pressure, and his boring commentary on legends leaving a legacy then he may not be the man for the job.
Lol you and many others were calling for Dimma to be shown the door after 4/5 years of his term, so I think we can safely ignore your opinion of Yze after 8 games.
lol The way i recall it the knives came out for hardwick after 2016 having been there and not won a final. Hmm how many seasons is that. With all the new coaches coming on board some new players it has been a legit question over the years who really owns the chaos system that we came up with for 2017 because under Hardwick for seven seasons we played nothing like it.
Hardwick was damn lucky imo not to be out the door with ball the others that got the arse at the end of 2016
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JP he has been very underwhelming. What was expected is not to go down the rabbit hole with an old hacksmith, pickett, kmac plus about 5 others that are not part of the future. He has done exactly the opposite.
Claw said he wont last 3 years, and he is 100% right. The old stable heads will be gone very soon, and we have a president who is lost.
That said im not ready to throw the towel in just yet, but he better start displaying some toughness which was rarely seen in his playing career, or he wont last the journey.
Yes, because sacking coaches didn't leave us in the wilderness for 35 years. No not at all :whistle :shh
really? we sacked Wallace didn't we and Dimma came on board. :wallywink
also 3 years is plenty of time to see some improvement. Claw or i didnt say lets sack him now. 3 years or less is enough to see improvement and development of our kids. If we see the same ability not to apply pressure, and his boring commentary on legends leaving a legacy then he may not be the man for the job.
Lol you and many others were calling for Dimma to be shown the door after 4/5 years of his term, so I think we can safely ignore your opinion of Yze after 8 games.
Is that like the crew who wanted dusty traded after the chopsticks scenario? Were you one of those?:lol
on your comment. Rightly so. He changed his ways with a great team around him which brought us great success on the back of pressure. That crew are nearly gone or have been gently pushed in Balmys case. Who is left should Benny depart?
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Dimma said early in 2016 after a heavy loss that we had to take 2 steps back to take a few forward. It felt like bulltish at the time but I started to see what he meant during the season - particularly vs Cats at the G when that game plan worked a treat until 3qtr time before we ran out of gas.
Did I see something different? You betcha.
Did I think it would lead to 1, let alone 3 flags? Nope.
However, the key was that change in game plan started during 2016 and evolved into 2017.
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Should be gone before the bye....#MarkIINeeld :shh
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Meh, the next few years is about acquiring draft picks anyway.
From that perspective, it works in our favour if he cant coach.
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Not much chop
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How long before the Kings Gambit is the rebuild coach never survives .
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Keeping it warm for Newman who'll keep it warm for Grigg or Hodge.... :shh
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I'm all in on Yze, but hoping we remain a very solidly rub club and ensure we have a plan i place if things aren't professing as we hope.
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I like Yze , but don't bs to the members and supporters face boys gave a effort yesterday because we we're spineless.
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Get pick 1
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Yze made It very clear that Nank took control of training all week. To work on ways to better our centre clearance work. Big fail. Big fail by nank and bigger fail by Yze. It's his responsibility to take charge and not handpass it to others . Means he is out of ideas aleeady
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lets revisit Dimma's comments after a similar period in his tenure
https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/afl/foes-familiar-for-new-man-hardwick-20100213-gebmrw.html
''You will have to wait and see with that one. As far as we are concerned we are trying to be hard at the ball. If we do that I think our supporters will be relatively pleased,'' Hardwick said.
As Alistair Clarkson did when he took over Hawthorn and insisted on a defence-first approach, Hardwick has adopted a defensive focus for the pre-season.
''[Defensive football] has been a driving force of ours over the course of the summer . I think one thing offensively our guys can play, decision making probably needs to improve somewhat but defensively I thought we were relatively poor so it is something we have addressed over the course of the summer,'' he said.
i have heard nothing off the sort from Yze. That may be due to personnel, or the fact he wasn't a hard defensive player, though if his pressers are any indication then he may be quite pleased with the effort the boys have put in.
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He reminds me of Knights when he was at the Bumblers.....except they could at least score heavily even if they couldn't stop the oppo from scoring heavily whereas we can't do either.....also can't see Yze having the balls to stand up to a player with the equivalent of Lloyd's statue at Essendon at Richmond.... :shh