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Title: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Richmond

B: Chris Newman, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli

HB: Brett Deledio, Will Thursfield, Shaun Grigg

C: Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards

HF: Robin Nahas, Tyrone Vickery, Bradley Helbig

F: Mitchell Farmer, Jack Riewoldt, Jake King

Foll: Andrew Browne, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley

I/C: Jayden Post, Tom Hislop, Ben Griffiths, Jake Batchelor

Emg: Shane Tuck, Jeromey Webberley, Brad Miller
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2011, 05:03:51 PM
So that's 5 changes ...

In: Thursfield, Post, Griffiths, King, Helbig

Out: McGuane, Miller, Gourdis, Webberley, Conca
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 30, 2011, 05:05:12 PM
So that's ...

In: Thursfield, Post, Griffiths

Out: McGuane, Miller, Webberley

 :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :rollin :rollin :rollin :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: taztiger4 on June 30, 2011, 05:05:24 PM
So that's ...

In: Thursfield, Post, Griffiths

Out: McGuane, Miller, Webberley
add Conca & goo to the outs
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 30, 2011, 05:05:26 PM
IMO thats the best in's i have seen in a while.

Dimma has been reading our posts

Goodbye and good riddons to Mcguane and Miller. Duds
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2011, 05:06:03 PM
Helbig is also in for a rested Conca
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: wayne on June 30, 2011, 05:06:30 PM
Big changes.

Helbig in as well.

Not many 'defenders' in that backline  :help
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2011, 05:06:44 PM
IMO thats the best in's i have seen in a while.

Dimma has been reading our posts

Goodbye and good riddons to Mcguane and Miller. Duds

Yeah 100% agree.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2011, 05:07:33 PM
So that's 5 changes ...

In: Thursfield, Post, Griffiths, King, Helbig

Out: McGuane, Miller, Gourdis, Webberley, Conca
5 changes all up
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2011, 05:08:55 PM
Benny G!

Riewoldt, Vickery and Griffiths up forward!

Post must be playing defence.

Good to see Thursfield back. Should put a full stop on Waite or Walker.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 30, 2011, 05:09:00 PM
Tuck is unlucky, thought he might be handy this week...
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on June 30, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
Miller OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

 :clapping  :cheers :thumbsup ;D :gotigers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M)
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WA Tiger on June 30, 2011, 05:11:50 PM
Tuck is unlucky, thought he might be handy this week...

Get used to Tuck being unlucky, unfortunately, I can only see him being recalled if players are injured.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: tony_montana on June 30, 2011, 05:12:29 PM
If Farmer was out too, that wouldve been the best possible 'outs'   ;D
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 30, 2011, 05:13:35 PM
Tuck is unlucky, thought he might be handy this week...

Get used to Tuck being unlucky, unfortunately, I can only see him being recalled if players are injured.

lol...the way he is going I can't even see that happening!
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2011, 05:15:38 PM
Here's the Carlton side for those interested. Waite and Robinson back for them.

B: Bret Thornton, Simon White, Andrew Carrazzo
HB: Bryce Gibbs, Jeremy Laidler, Jordan Russell
C: Heath Scotland, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson
HF: Andrew Walker, Jarrad Waite, Jeffrey Garlett
F: Eddie Betts, Matthew Kreuzer, Lachlan Henderson
Foll: Robert Warnock, Mitch Robinson, Marc Murphy
I/C: Ryan Houlihan, David Ellard, Christopher Yarran, Zach Tuohy

Emg: Paul Bower, Mark Austin, Aaron Joseph
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Ox on June 30, 2011, 05:17:17 PM
Miller OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

 :clapping  :cheers :thumbsup ;D :gotigers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M)

Yeah!

The Wheeled,Witches-Hat has ben rolled out the door!!
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on June 30, 2011, 05:18:01 PM
Miller OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

 :clapping  :cheers :thumbsup ;D :gotigers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M)

Yeah!

The Wheeled,Witches-Hat has ben rolled out the door!!

I actually feel like singing the song.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 30, 2011, 05:18:51 PM
Woot Woot!  :gotigers
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on June 30, 2011, 05:18:56 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin


Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: wayne on June 30, 2011, 05:20:30 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Gourdis, McGuane, Miller and Webberley had no form either though....

We're a long way off having good depth still.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 30, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Thursfield only had to play one game to be in better form than McGuane...Nothing Dumb about that!
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on June 30, 2011, 05:21:31 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.



Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on June 30, 2011, 05:24:05 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Gourdis, McGuane, Miller and Webberley had no form either though....

We're a long way off having good depth still.

Well if he plays on his man then thats a huge step forward. McGuane & Thursfield fighting for the same place  :lol :lol
Chicken Wings will last 1/2 a game before he does his leg cause his winged & concusssed
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 30, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.



Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: eliminator on June 30, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
Farmer should have been dropped for Tuck. Tuck very very unlucky. Good to see Thursfield back. Glad brought in Post & Griffiths. Glad dropped Miller and McGuane. Hislop is very very lucky. He should have been dropped
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Ox on June 30, 2011, 05:29:24 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




It's called "Showing Faith" TM  ;D

Re Wheeled Witches Hat - Hope his cheese still goes to the game
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCcdvCW1nHxu9oe4fW6lZAJ735JV7MG7XFx_SIPnwDRaOCupU7Ow)
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 30, 2011, 05:36:28 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Would play Thursfield in front of Gourdis, couldnt play Gourdis again on last weeks pathetic effort
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Gourdis, McGuane, Miller and Webberley had no form either though....

We're a long way off having good depth still.

Well if he plays on his man then thats a huge step forward. McGuane & Thursfield fighting for the same place  :lol :lol
Chicken Wings will last 1/2 a game before he does his leg cause his winged & concusssed

Collingwood.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Would play Thursfield in front of Gourdis, couldnt play Gourdis again on last weeks pathetic effort

Agreed,
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 30, 2011, 05:45:08 PM

It's called "Showing Faith" TM  ;D

Re Wheeled Witches Hat - Hope his cheese still goes to the game
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCcdvCW1nHxu9oe4fW6lZAJ735JV7MG7XFx_SIPnwDRaOCupU7Ow)

Peach. I could eat a peach for hours
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 30, 2011, 05:48:57 PM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Would play Thursfield in front of Gourdis, couldnt play Gourdis again on last weeks pathetic effort

If your basing it on last weeks effort you could make Thursfield Captin play him at full back, center half forward full forward and pinch hit him in the ruck........oh he would probably do alright as a small forward as well :whistle :whistle
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on June 30, 2011, 06:18:46 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.



Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?

not real sure what you are trying to say, but perhaps you have misinterpreted what i was saying.

I'm rapt to see see griffiths replace miller, but i'm glad they waited until they felt he was ready , which is why i tolerated him being in the side for the short term, unlike some.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dice on June 30, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
Thursfield only had to play one game to be in better form than McGuane

 ;D

 crisp TFT  :thumbsup..... Gillard is in better form than McGuane

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Smokey on June 30, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
Farmer and Hislop need to brace themselves this week.  We are going in decidedly short on scapegoats.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on June 30, 2011, 07:59:28 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WA Tiger on June 30, 2011, 08:09:28 PM
Farmer and Hislop need to brace themselves this week.  We are going in decidedly short on scapegoats.

It won't just be them Smokey, passengers will soon be found out during this game. Anyone who does not commit 100% in this game needs a stint at Coburg, Martin, Cotchin, Newman...... It doesn't matter who!!!! 
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 30, 2011, 08:41:20 PM
Farmer and Hislop need to brace themselves this week.  We are going in decidedly short on scapegoats.
:clapping
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 30, 2011, 09:11:01 PM
Thursfield only had to play one game to be in better form than McGuane

 ;D

 crisp TFT  :thumbsup..... Gillard is in better form than McGuane



 :thatsgold
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Coach on June 30, 2011, 09:22:51 PM
 :lol

McGuane and Gus playing for Coburg  ;D I didn't know we'd reached the 25th of December quite yet.  :cheers
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 30, 2011, 10:16:12 PM
So that's 5 changes ...

In: Thursfield, Post, Griffiths, King, Helbig

Out: McGuane, Miller, Gourdis, Webberley, Conca
5 changes all up

Dimma must have read my post on Sunday I had six changes. Had to be done.
Farmer was very lucky to escape omission this week.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 30, 2011, 10:26:38 PM
Farmer and Hislop need to brace themselves this week.  We are going in decidedly short on scapegoats.

Comment of the week so far......
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: crackertiger on June 30, 2011, 11:03:27 PM
Is Farmer Hardwick's secret son? How does he get a game seriously?
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 30, 2011, 11:20:55 PM
it seems as though all the Miller lovers on this forum MUST eat some humble pie (ie Al).
The arguement has Always been wether or not it was worth having Miller in the team at the expense of youngsters Griffiths or Post.
I have never considered Miller in the senior team as a good idea and ive always maintained it is an absolute waste of time having him in the team.
it looks as though Hardwick has finally seen the light and is playing the youngsters.  :cheers
just hope he keeps them in till the end of the year and we'll know if they're any good.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on June 30, 2011, 11:25:39 PM
Yep, the drafting, playing and existence of Miller has been a huge mistake and I expect a personal apology from Hardwick, Cameron and anyone else involved in recruiting him or I will have them sacked.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on June 30, 2011, 11:27:48 PM
Chicken Wings will last 1/2 a game before he does his leg cause his winged & concusssed

Pretty ordinary post.
What sort of supporter let alone bloke bags a young bloke and predicts/hopes he gets injured. Absolute grime.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 01, 2011, 12:03:13 AM

it looks as though Hardwick has finally seen the light and is playing the youngsters.  :cheers
just hope he keeps them in till the end of the year and we'll know if they're any good.


Has he seen the light or are the youngsters you speak of finally ready to play.... :whistle :whistle :whistle
I would think the latter considering Griffiths has been injured all season and Post has been clearly out of form.....
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on July 01, 2011, 12:08:27 AM
it seems as though all the Miller lovers on this forum MUST eat some humble pie (ie Al).
The arguement has Always been wether or not it was worth having Miller in the team at the expense of youngsters Griffiths or Post.
I have never considered Miller in the senior team as a good idea and ive always maintained it is an absolute waste of time having him in the team.
it looks as though Hardwick has finally seen the light and is playing the youngsters.  :cheers
just hope he keeps them in till the end of the year and we'll know if they're any good.

you're off your tree.

show me where i said i had any love for miller?

after a few games in the seconds to get some match fitness, miller has made way for griffiths, as he was always going to. right from the day they drafted miller, hardwick said that miller understood and accepted his role.

even just the other day this was posted
Spoke to Danny Daly and said that Griffiths is one big game for Coburg away for a Senior call up. Said they would look at him really closely today. Shame he got injured, any news?

What else did Danny say, I am interested ;)

A fair bit of cliche stuff to be honest. Nothing ground breaking. Said he was going to head to Werribee and watch Griffiths closely and that Miller understands his role and will make way with no fuss when required.

Nothing else that was really excited, mentioned Cousins popped in.

I mean it's a pretty straight forward concept. you have a young big forward with ability but dodgy shoulders not having played any football for 9 months or so with only three or so games in his career. He was able to be nursed along because the club had a big bodied hard working forward who could keep his spot warm for him until he was ready.

but somehow the club has seen the light? well hallelujah brother, next hardwick and co will shaking on the floor and speaking in toungues.

Even after the event, you still cant comprehend what has happened.

you would have played griffths before he was ready and then wondered why he either broke down or had his confidence shot to pieces because his fitness was so far behind every ones else.

Either that or you would have rewarded a player who obviously has some element of his game the staff want him to rectify and then complained in five years what a lazy footballer he is and a wasted talent.






Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
it seems as though all the Miller lovers on this forum MUST eat some humble pie (ie Al).
The arguement has Always been wether or not it was worth having Miller in the team at the expense of youngsters Griffiths or Post.
I have never considered Miller in the senior team as a good idea and ive always maintained it is an absolute waste of time having him in the team.
it looks as though Hardwick has finally seen the light and is playing the youngsters.  :cheers
just hope he keeps them in till the end of the year and we'll know if they're any good.

you're off your tree.

show me where i said i had any love for miller?

after a few games in the seconds to get some match fitness, miller has made way for griffiths, as he was always going to. right from the day they drafted miller, hardwick said that miller understood and accepted his role.

even just the other day this was posted
Spoke to Danny Daly and said that Griffiths is one big game for Coburg away for a Senior call up. Said they would look at him really closely today. Shame he got injured, any news?

What else did Danny say, I am interested ;)

A fair bit of cliche stuff to be honest. Nothing ground breaking. Said he was going to head to Werribee and watch Griffiths closely and that Miller understands his role and will make way with no fuss when required.

Nothing else that was really excited, mentioned Cousins popped in.

I mean it's a pretty straight forward concept. you have a young big forward with ability but dodgy shoulders not having played any football for 9 months or so with only three or so games in his career. He was able to be nursed along because the club had a big bodied hard working forward who could keep his spot warm for him until he was ready.

but somehow the club has seen the light? well hallelujah brother, next hardwick and co will shaking on the floor and speaking in toungues.

Even after the event, you still cant comprehend what has happened.

you would have played griffths before he was ready and then wondered why he either broke down or had his confidence shot to pieces because his fitness was so far behind every ones else.

Either that or you would have rewarded a player who obviously has some element of his game the staff want him to rectify and then complained in five years what a lazy footballer he is and a wasted talent.

Far too much logic there al

Miller had a role, he knows/knew what it is/was - he played the role that was asked of him. Would also suggest to few people here that they would be staggered to konw how popular and how high a regard Miller is held at by the players but I digrese

If we had played Griffiths straight away as opposed to easing him back into things and he had injured his shoulders again or sustained some other injury form lack of match conditioning. The experts on here would have in no particular order :

- Bagged Griffiths unmercifully
- Said Griffiths career was over
- said He was a wasted pick
- Bagged Griffiths unmercifully
- sooked Our recruiting department are clueless
- Said he was a hack, soft and a dud
- Bagged our coaches
- etc etc
- and just for good measure Bagged Griffiths unmercifully again
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on July 01, 2011, 08:16:10 AM
Haha good thread
Im just glad to see the kid is ready to play
good luck kiddo  :thumbsup  :gotigers
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: gerkin greg on July 01, 2011, 08:26:40 AM
Haha good thread
Im just glad to see the kid is ready to play
good luck kiddo  :thumbsup  :gotigers

Agree with this. Some fine quality in this thread.  :lol
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 01, 2011, 08:29:36 AM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Gourdis, McGuane, Miller and Webberley had no form either though....

We're a long way off having good depth still.

Well if he plays on his man then thats a huge step forward. McGuane & Thursfield fighting for the same place  :lol :lol
Chicken Wings will last 1/2 a game before he does his leg cause his winged & concusssed

you must admit though we would almost be better off playing with one less man than playing Mcguane. He is RUBBISH and at times embarassing to watch given his hefty contract.

we have seen the best of Mcguane and its borderline VFL so IMO we are stuffed down back unless one of Grimes and Astbury turn into A graders.

We wont win a flag or even start to contest finals till we fix these holes that are all over the place.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 01, 2011, 08:56:07 AM

we have seen the best of Mcguane and its borderline VFL so IMO we are stuffed down back unless one of Grimes and Astbury turn into A graders.


When there playing beside McGuane it's not hard to look like an A grader:lol
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 10:15:35 AM
OMG here we go again rewarding players with no form. Thursfield, Griffiths,  :birthday

dumb. Thursfield 1 game at Coburg hardly warrants a call up.  :rollin :rollin :rollin




Thursfield only had to play one game to be in better form than McGuane...Nothing Dumb about that!

match fitness & game time is the most important key to the game. you cant surely tell me Thursfield is ready to play League Football after 1 game in a Coburg side. l put my money on McGuane to kick 5 goals on him & thats a statement
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 10:28:29 AM

If your basing it on last weeks effort you could make Thursfield Captin play him at full back, center half forward full forward and pinch hit him in the ruck........oh he would probably do alright as a small forward as well :whistle :whistle

Thursfield   :lol these guys are coming into the side to play for thier future. Thier careers are on the line starting from this weekend. Thursfield career finished last year & wanted out. Nobody wanted him not even GCS  ;D
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 10:30:15 AM
:lol

McGuane and Gus playing for Coburg  ;D I didn't know we'd reached the 25th of December quite yet.  :cheers

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 11:18:34 AM
Chicken Wings will last 1/2 a game before he does his leg cause his winged & concusssed

Pretty ordinary post.
What sort of supporter let alone bloke bags a young bloke and predicts/hopes he gets injured. Absolute grime.

this guy is simply not ready. needs more game time & needs to kick a few bags of goals at Coburg.
what has he done to warrant a game honestly. Do you seriouly think he is going to be playing.
What sort of a supporter am l ? l will tell you.  One who has played football, Coached & Admin football, & one who does not like players being rewarded for no form. Guys like Thursfield who has no form cause his played 1 game. He will be chopped up by the fit forwards & the only chance he will have is if he brings his dogs, dog collar & chain to put on his opponant. He will be fisting fresh air from behind & will be still fisting when he gets home cause he got a easy avenue.

So best of luck to these players & please Richmond players prove me wrong.  Cause we are really depleted in defence & have been for many many years. Any Admin & Coaches would clearly see that long ago. Why do they persist to draft hacks. Why persist with players that we see are clumsy & help the opposition score goals.  Bring in Thursfield who has played 1 game & what did he do last week to be promoted ? Coburg got raped.

As they say Imposters should not be rewarded, you know what imposter means Popelord ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor

l have to admit l PMSL reading that imposter peice cause it sums you up perfectly since l caught you out & know who you really are  ;D
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on July 01, 2011, 11:22:27 AM
I think you need to up the meditation, Monkman, you are getting too wound up.

I'd recommend meditating the way I do at 5pm daily.  :cheers
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
I think you need to up the meditation, Monkman, you are getting too wound up.

I'd recommend meditating the way I do at 5pm daily.  :cheers

gee you just fractured my feelings ;D 5pm meditation at The Royal tomorrow arvo. will the topless barmaids be on  ;D
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on July 01, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
Chicken Wings will last 1/2 a game before he does his leg cause his winged & concusssed

Pretty ordinary post.
What sort of supporter let alone bloke bags a young bloke and predicts/hopes he gets injured. Absolute grime.

this guy is simply not ready. needs more game time & needs to kick a few bags of goals at Coburg.
what has he done to warrant a game honestly. Do you seriouly think he is going to be playing.
What sort of a supporter am l ? l will tell you.  One who has played football, Coached & Admin football, & one who does not like players being rewarded for no form. Guys like Thursfield who has no form cause his played 1 game. He will be chopped up by the fit forwards & the only chance he will have is if he brings his dogs, dog collar & chain to put on his opponant. He will be fisting fresh air from behind & will be still fisting when he gets home cause he got a easy avenue.

So best of luck to these players & please Richmond players prove me wrong.  Cause we are really depleted in defence & have been for many many years. Any Admin & Coaches would clearly see that long ago. Why do they persist to draft hacks. Why persist with players that we see are clumsy & help the opposition score goals.  Bring in Thursfield who has played 1 game & what did he do last week to be promoted ? Coburg got raped.

As they say Imposters should not be rewarded, you know what imposter means Popelord ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor

l have to admit l PMSL reading that imposter peice cause it sums you up perfectly since l caught you out & know who you really are  ;D

Can hardly make out what your trying to say with the spelling of a 4 year old. You talk too much for a guy with no sense.

Gourdis played a blinder was rewarded with a senior game and looked horrible. Doesn't always work like that.

We don't have a gun first 22 players that need our reserves to play blinders to take positions off them. We carry our last 10 players picked.

Common sense prevails, drop guys who aren't playing well. We haven't got playing ripping up the VFL to come in. Would you like to play with 16 players instead?

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: akhoury on July 01, 2011, 12:20:44 PM
I think people are kind of missing the point. Fact is Coburg have been horrible this season and we have yet to have a forward have a dominant game at that level. Perhaps its better off putting Griffiths in the seniors where the midfielders and other forwards can give him a bit of the footy. All players who have shown reasonable form at Coburg this season have been either midfielders or backman, because the ball never leaves there D50.

Kind of highlights the fact that we need our own reserves team.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Stripes on July 01, 2011, 12:30:19 PM
I think people are kind of missing the point. Fact is Coburg have been horrible this season and we have yet to have a forward have a dominant game at that level. Perhaps its better off putting Griffiths in the seniors where the midfielders and other forwards can give him a bit of the footy. All players who have shown reasonable form at Coburg this season have been either midfielders or backman, because the ball never leaves there D50.

Kind of highlights the fact that we need our own reserves team.

I'm a big believer to only call up players based on form but you make a great deal of sense here. Griffiths was playing down back to get some run in his legs and perhaps the other reason was, as you mentioned, at Coburg our midfield isn't strong enough to win the ball and deliver the ball to our forwards. So using this logic, Thursfield should have had plenty of opportunities to shine - did he? And also following on with this logic does this mean Helbig has been non-competitve for Coburg?

Interesting
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 01, 2011, 12:32:59 PM
you aren't the bloke picking up kids in Boronia by any chance?

Golly gosh
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: akhoury on July 01, 2011, 01:46:28 PM
I think people are kind of missing the point. Fact is Coburg have been horrible this season and we have yet to have a forward have a dominant game at that level. Perhaps its better off putting Griffiths in the seniors where the midfielders and other forwards can give him a bit of the footy. All players who have shown reasonable form at Coburg this season have been either midfielders or backman, because the ball never leaves there D50.

Kind of highlights the fact that we need our own reserves team.

I'm a big believer to only call up players based on form but you make a great deal of sense here. Griffiths was playing down back to get some run in his legs and perhaps the other reason was, as you mentioned, at Coburg our midfield isn't strong enough to win the ball and deliver the ball to our forwards. So using this logic, Thursfield should have had plenty of opportunities to shine - did he? And also following on with this logic does this mean Helbig has been non-competitve for Coburg?

Interesting

Truth is you can put Thursfield in the VFL reserves and he still won't get 15 marks and provide run and carry. Its not his style of game, he will never be in the bests unless his defensive job was on a player of high calibre. From all reports his defensive game was good last week. Something had to give after last week, our defence leaked way too many marks inside 50.

Helbig has been good at Coburg, but has hardly been dominant. Thats no blight on him though because as a first year player I dont expect him to be above that level as of yet.

In all honestly I think injuries are beginning to really affect our team, ideally we would have Connors and Morton in the side ahead of Helbig. Also Grimes was a real find and its a shame he was injured as well as Astbury.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 01:48:45 PM

Can hardly make out what your trying to say with the spelling of a 4 year old. You talk too much for a guy with no sense.

Gourdis played a blinder was rewarded with a senior game and looked horrible. Doesn't always work like that.

We don't have a gun first 22 players that need our reserves to play blinders to take positions off them. We carry our last 10 players picked.

Common sense prevails, drop guys who aren't playing well. We haven't got playing ripping up the VFL to come in. Would you like to play with 16 players instead?



And cut the Coliingwood crap out  ;D l know l have brought it on myself owning a membership, its just to make it easy to enter games with my family.
l hate Collingwood with a passion just like Carlton. The Melbourne membership is carried on for my late father because Melbourne is my second club l follow taking him to games when he was unable to take himself. Same as he was a Richmond member so he could take me to games when the club was powerful & winning premierships in the 60, 70, as a kid growing up it was the greatest thing to see & hear.

Now back to the football topic Lets debate this

Gourdis got rewarded because of continued good form you say, "Oh thats what l was saying" you just contridicted my post. players must play well over a period to be rewarded. Why drop Gourdis for 1 bad game when he is clearly the best defender at Coburg & played several consistant games there for all of us wanting him to be selected.   Let him settle & learn how to play with the senior list. That cannot be achevied on the training track. It can only be done in a game under preasure at that level. l find that de-selection a bit of a shock considering Rewoldt is out of form.

We could use that as a example of Griffiths in for Rewoldt but l wont cause Rewoldt is clearly in our best,  But needs a reminder to get on top of his game. He has no injury as said.  Players who carry bad hips from previous games dont try to outmark 200cm giants who are marking well

Thursfield clearly has no form to be rushed in, We know his coming back from injury & played 1 game at Coburg (?) was he in the Coburg best because l never looked.  He lacks match fitness at any level & it will show by halftime in a AFL game. This is not fair nor should be done to the other players in the squad,  to pick up for a player who will run out of match fitness & be a burden on the rest. Maybe Dimma will manage him through & if so l hope he does lead by example cause someone down the backline need to stand up & help mold a defence.

McGuane clearly needs dropping, His game is riddled with flaws. Shouldnot be recalled till his game is clean. Honestly l dont know where his at.

Defense is where we are losing the games. Send Millar down the back is what l would do. He does have good skills & is strong.  We have forwards in Rewoldt & Vickery so maybe this is the structure to bring in Griffiths. His also been down the backline but l would prefer him in the forward if fit. l got nothing against Griffo if he works & maintains his body. l got nothing against Rewoldt by BTW apart from berating his own teammates when he is clearly not in good form.

The only way for Dimma to fix the defence is to build it himself over the next few years with drafting new KPD,  the type that will mold around our running backmen Deledio who is backing himself  with his ball & carry & confident. Even Newman is making crucial mistakes but the preasure is constantly on him.

Now the other thing is all of us are saying how bad some of these players went on the weekend. None of us have given credit to Melbourne who's team were cocky & came to play football.  

1 other thing you said we dont have a gun 22 players for our reserves to take positions off, Thats a good comment & if thats the case you dont reward players like Thursfield or Griffiths that dont have form by pushing out a player like Gourdis after 1 bad game.

But l'm not the coach or do l know his thinking & its obvious to me he knows what his doing cause he is a premiership player at 2 clubs & been involved in premierships at several clubs but l have faith in him. If Thursfield & Griffiths are in then we will just have to watch & if l'm wrong then l will face my critics. If l'm right l still dont get nothing out of it because my team might lose.

Edited: as the original offending post has been edited, therefore the quote referencing it has been edited as well
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
I think people are kind of missing the point. Fact is Coburg have been horrible this season and we have yet to have a forward have a dominant game at that level. Perhaps its better off putting Griffiths in the seniors where the midfielders and other forwards can give him a bit of the footy. All players who have shown reasonable form at Coburg this season have been either midfielders or backman, because the ball never leaves there D50.

Kind of highlights the fact that we need our own reserves team.

Although I agree the time has come for the RFC to have its own VFL team, I don't think the on-field performance of Coburg highlights it at all. They are 2 very seperate issues IMHO

Facts are for the majority of the the VFL season thus far the Coburg side has a had majority of RFC players in it (10-14 a week) so the on-field results are actually more than likely mirroring what the reuslts would be if we had our own VFL side.

Regarding stand alone AFL teams in the VFL comp the question should simply become are our young players development being enhanced or hindered with an alignment? The results are irelevant TBH

Anyone who thinks a stand alone RFC VFL team would be winning games with such a young group of players is (a) kidding themselves and (b) missing the point of why you'd field your own team IMHO But here's a hint, it isn't about wining VFL premierships,
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
Snip topic people

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: gerkin greg on July 01, 2011, 02:26:37 PM
Send Millar down the back is what l would do. He does have good skills

 :chuck

19yr old nearly kicked 7 goals on him in Round 12
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 03:09:25 PM
I think people are kind of missing the point. Fact is Coburg have been horrible this season and we have yet to have a forward have a dominant game at that level. Perhaps its better off putting Griffiths in the seniors where the midfielders and other forwards can give him a bit of the footy. All players who have shown reasonable form at Coburg this season have been either midfielders or backman, because the ball never leaves there D50.

Kind of highlights the fact that we need our own reserves team.

l like this post, so thats one way of looking at Griffiths development.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
I think people are kind of missing the point. Fact is Coburg have been horrible this season and we have yet to have a forward have a dominant game at that level. Perhaps its better off putting Griffiths in the seniors where the midfielders and other forwards can give him a bit of the footy. All players who have shown reasonable form at Coburg this season have been either midfielders or backman, because the ball never leaves there D50.

Kind of highlights the fact that we need our own reserves team.

Although I agree the time has come for the RFC to have its own VFL team, I don't think the on-field performance of Coburg highlights it at all. They are 2 very seperate issues IMHO

Facts are for the majority of the the VFL season thus far the Coburg side has a had majority of RFC players in it (10-14 a week) so the on-field results are actually more than likely mirroring what the reuslts would be if we had our own VFL side.

Regarding stand alone AFL teams in the VFL comp the question should simply become are our young players development being enhanced or hindered with an alignment? The results are irelevant TBH

Anyone who thinks a stand alone RFC VFL team would be winning games with such a young group of players is (a) kidding themselves and (b) missing the point of why you'd field your own team IMHO But here's a hint, it isn't about wining VFL premierships,

l just think our overall development would improve. VFL should go back to what is used to be & all AFL clubs field reserves sides. playing on the same day & same ground.

Remember what it was like to go to a game & sit there watching the Richmond reserves, l still got the last premiership coached by Swabby on video. Time to upgrade it onto DVD & upload it onto the net me thinks  ;D
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
Send Millar down the back is what l would do. He does have good skills

 :chuck

19yr old nearly kicked 7 goals on him in Round 12

maybe so Gerks but thats 1 game, surely his got something more to offer, otherwise its no different mistake than like the past with Kingsley.
l really beleive Millar is doing his job, just aint kicking goals
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dice on July 01, 2011, 04:46:36 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2011, 05:00:50 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Nah Black you can have a soft spot for another team, especially those ones our parents followed.

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: 1965 on July 01, 2011, 05:19:32 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Nah Black you can have a soft spot for another team, especially those ones our parents followed.



Dad was in the 1948 under 19's North Melbourne premiership team (North's first flag),

I have a soft spot for them now that Dad is no longer with us.

But I still remember being dragged along to Arden St as a kid to watch them play and putting up with the mud and the fights and blokes peeing into empty cans next to me. Then having to take a drunk father home on the train most Sat arvos.

Was invited to watch Richmond in a match at the MCG one day and we sat up in the old southern stand, I was dry, I could see and their were toliets that worked (and were used). I converted on the spot, the year was 1965, and never went back to Arden St ever.

End of story.  :cheers
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 01, 2011, 05:43:32 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.


Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?

not real sure what you are trying to say, but perhaps you have misinterpreted what i was saying.

I'm rapt to see see griffiths replace miller, but i'm glad they waited until they felt he was ready , which is why i tolerated him being in the side for the short term, unlike some.

I get the logic, I don't get this chicken little poo. You say you're happy to see griff in (when ready get that), You're happy enough he replaces miller (still with you at this point) but then make some obscure, smug reference to chicken littlers being kept happy for a few weeks (lost me wtf are YOU talking about)
Bizarre.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 01, 2011, 05:45:18 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Spot on Blacky, There can only be one! I am a fourth generation Richmond supporter, my cousin played a few games for the bombers but I can assure you there was never a soft spot not even for a second. My daughter started barracking for Geelong after they won there first premiership, she no longer lives here and finds it very lonely at Xmas time.......Tigers forever!!
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on July 01, 2011, 06:06:49 PM

Can hardly make out what your trying to say with the spelling of a 4 year old. You talk too much for a guy with no sense.

Gourdis played a blinder was rewarded with a senior game and looked horrible. Doesn't always work like that.

We don't have a gun first 22 players that need our reserves to play blinders to take positions off them. We carry our last 10 players picked.

Common sense prevails, drop guys who aren't playing well. We haven't got playing ripping up the VFL to come in. Would you like to play with 16 players instead?



And cut the Coliingwood crap out  ;D l know l have brought it on myself owning a membership, its just to make it easy to enter games with my family.
l hate Collingwood with a passion just like Carlton. The Melbourne membership is carried on for my late father because Melbourne is my second club l follow taking him to games when he was unable to take himself. Same as he was a Richmond member so he could take me to games when the club was powerful & winning premierships in the 60, 70, as a kid growing up it was the greatest thing to see & hear.

Now back to the football topic Lets debate this

Gourdis got rewarded because of continued good form you say, "Oh thats what l was saying" you just contridicted my post. players must play well over a period to be rewarded. Why drop Gourdis for 1 bad game when he is clearly the best defender at Coburg & played several consistant games there for all of us wanting him to be selected.   Let him settle & learn how to play with the senior list. That cannot be achevied on the training track. It can only be done in a game under preasure at that level. l find that de-selection a bit of a shock considering Rewoldt is out of form.

We could use that as a example of Griffiths in for Rewoldt but l wont cause Rewoldt is clearly in our best,  But needs a reminder to get on top of his game. He has no injury as said.  Players who carry bad hips from previous games dont try to outmark 200cm giants who are marking well

Thursfield clearly has no form to be rushed in, We know his coming back from injury & played 1 game at Coburg (?) was he in the Coburg best because l never looked.  He lacks match fitness at any level & it will show by halftime in a AFL game. This is not fair nor should be done to the other players in the squad,  to pick up for a player who will run out of match fitness & be a burden on the rest. Maybe Dimma will manage him through & if so l hope he does lead by example cause someone down the backline need to stand up & help mold a defence.

McGuane clearly needs dropping, His game is riddled with flaws. Shouldnot be recalled till his game is clean. Honestly l dont know where his at.

Defense is where we are losing the games. Send Millar down the back is what l would do. He does have good skills & is strong.  We have forwards in Rewoldt & Vickery so maybe this is the structure to bring in Griffiths. His also been down the backline but l would prefer him in the forward if fit. l got nothing against Griffo if he works & maintains his body. l got nothing against Rewoldt by BTW apart from berating his own teammates when he is clearly not in good form.

The only way for Dimma to fix the defence is to build it himself over the next few years with drafting new KPD,  the type that will mold around our running backmen Deledio who is backing himself  with his ball & carry & confident. Even Newman is making crucial mistakes but the preasure is constantly on him.

Now the other thing is all of us are saying how bad some of these players went on the weekend. None of us have given credit to Melbourne who's team were cocky & came to play football.  

1 other thing you said we dont have a gun 22 players for our reserves to take positions off, Thats a good comment & if thats the case you dont reward players like Thursfield or Griffiths that dont have form by pushing out a player like Gourdis after 1 bad game.

But l'm not the coach or do l know his thinking & its obvious to me he knows what his doing cause he is a premiership player at 2 clubs & been involved in premierships at several clubs but l have faith in him. If Thursfield & Griffiths are in then we will just have to watch & if l'm wrong then l will face my critics. If l'm right l still dont get nothing out of it because my team might lose.

Edited: as the original offending post has been edited, therefore the quote referencing it has been edited as well

I find myself strangely agreeing with you.

Good post
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: J Buckthorn on July 01, 2011, 06:12:28 PM
Next item on the meeting agenda, peace in the middle east  :)
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on July 01, 2011, 06:28:26 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.


Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?

not real sure what you are trying to say, but perhaps you have misinterpreted what i was saying.

I'm rapt to see see griffiths replace miller, but i'm glad they waited until they felt he was ready , which is why i tolerated him being in the side for the short term, unlike some.

I get the logic, I don't get this chicken little poo. You say you're happy to see griff in (when ready get that), You're happy enough he replaces miller (still with you at this point) but then make some obscure, smug reference to chicken littlers being kept happy for a few weeks (lost me wtf are YOU talking about)
Bizarre.

The chicken little comment was just a cheap snipe at those constantly calling for miller to be dropped because they cant see past the fact that ability wise he is only an average footballer and see the train of logic in playing him.

They will soon find something else to complain about.

I suppose it wasn't the best analogy in this case. perhaps narrow minded, short sighted, ignorant fools would be more accurate, but that's probably a little too insulting and probably would have led to "snip" ?

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 01, 2011, 06:58:03 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.


Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?

not real sure what you are trying to say, but perhaps you have misinterpreted what i was saying.

I'm rapt to see see griffiths replace miller, but i'm glad they waited until they felt he was ready , which is why i tolerated him being in the side for the short term, unlike some.

I get the logic, I don't get this chicken little poo. You say you're happy to see griff in (when ready get that), You're happy enough he replaces miller (still with you at this point) but then make some obscure, smug reference to chicken littlers being kept happy for a few weeks (lost me wtf are YOU talking about)
Bizarre.

The chicken little comment was just a cheap snipe at those constantly calling for miller to be dropped because they cant see past the fact that ability wise he is only an average footballer and see the train of logic in playing him.

They will soon find something else to complain about.

I suppose it wasn't the best analogy in this case. perhaps narrow minded, short sighted, ignorant fools would be more accurate, but that's probably a little too insulting and probably would have led to "snip" ?



bottom line is each player is given an opportunity to perform before i personally make my decision to keep or get rid off.

Miller, Hislop and Edwards have been given ample opportunity to deliver consistently and havent.

Supporters like me get frustrated when you have a guy like Post and even Tuck sitting in the stands while spuds like these guys get a gig.

How can playing Post be any worse than Miller. We know Miller is finished but we are not 100% sure about Post so why let Coburg destroy another kid even further. He should play out the year at senior level.

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dice on July 01, 2011, 07:08:31 PM
Spot on Blacky, There can only be one! I am a fourth generation Richmond supporter, my cousin played a few games for the bombers but I can assure you there was never a soft spot not even for a second. My daughter started barracking for Geelong after they won there first premiership, she no longer lives here and finds it very lonely at Xmas time.......Tigers forever!!

Yeah man !  :thumbsup  Ingrained same as you I guess

Funny thing is I despise EVERY Victorian team but don't have that same hatred for interstate teams. Must be all those journeys out to the suburban battlefields as a young fella.

Back on topic... I like the look of our team this week
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2011, 07:12:45 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Spot on Blacky, There can only be one! I am a fourth generation Richmond supporter, my cousin played a few games for the bombers but I can assure you there was never a soft spot not even for a second. My daughter started barracking for Geelong after they won there first premiership, she no longer lives here and finds it very lonely at Xmas time.......Tigers forever!!

Nah sorry guys

My late dad played school boy footy for Collingwood at Victoria Park. He was a 2nd generation Pies support. He loved them with a passion. So I keep an eye on them and I will confess last eyar for my Dad I wanted them to win the GF.

But my Dad is a major reason as to why I love the tigers with a passion and have for so long.

My Dad died when I was 7. Ma Powell used to tell the story of how my Dad always said to us that he would never force us to follow the Pies (even though he wanted us too) and he didn't care which team we did end up barrackng for all as long the team we chose we stuck with them them forever because that's what following footy clubs is all about.

I chose the Tigers have been following them for nearly 40 years. Ma Powell used say he my Dad would be proud of my love for the tigers.

So I reckon it isn't a terrible thing out of respect for my wonderful Dad that I keep an eye on his beloved Pies it's the least I can do  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: yellowandback on July 01, 2011, 07:24:34 PM

mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.

[/quote]

Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?
[/quote]


not real sure what you are trying to say, but perhaps you have misinterpreted what i was saying.

I'm rapt to see see griffiths replace miller, but i'm glad they waited until they felt he was ready , which is why i tolerated him being in the side for the short term, unlike some.
[/quote]

I get the logic, I don't get this chicken little poo. You say you're happy to see griff in (when ready get that), You're happy enough he replaces miller (still with you at this point) but then make some obscure, smug reference to chicken littlers being kept happy for a few weeks (lost me wtf are YOU talking about)
Bizarre.

[/quote]

The chicken little comment was just a cheap snipe at those constantly calling for miller to be dropped because they cant see past the fact that ability wise he is only an average footballer and see the train of logic in playing him.

They will soon find something else to complain about.

I suppose it wasn't the best analogy in this case. perhaps narrow minded, short sighted, ignorant fools would be more accurate, but that's probably a little too insulting and probably would have led to "snip" ?


[/quote]

No we're getting somewhere! At the very least, millers place in the side is a fair topic to debate. Until a couple of weeks ago, there were arguments  for & against. He is not exactly Trent Cotchin.
So to call people "narrow minded, ignorant, short sighted and foolish" for having a contrary opinion - it is after all, a forum - is at the very least narrow minded and possibly a little short sighted.

Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dice on July 01, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
Nah sorry guys

My late dad played school boy footy for Collingwood at Victoria Park. He was a 2nd generation Pies support. He loved them with a passion. So I keep an eye on them and I will confess last eyar for my Dad I wanted them to win the GF.

But my Dad is a major reason as to why I love the tigers with a passion and have for so long.

My Dad died when I was 7. Ma Powell used to tell the story of how my Dad always said to us that he would never force us to follow the Pies (even though he wanted us too) and he didn't care which team we did end up barrackng for all as long the team we chose we stuck with them them forever because that's what following footy clubs is all about.

I chose the Tigers have been following them for nearly 40 years. Ma Powell used say he my Dad would be proud of my love for the tigers.

So I reckon it isn't a terrible thing out of respect for my wonderful Dad that I keep an eye on his beloved Pies it's the least I can do  :thumbsup

Fair enough Powelly. I got two young lads and couldn't imagine how tough if it would be for me if they ended up playing AFL for another club. Reckon I'd have a 'second' club one way or the other if that happened
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on July 01, 2011, 07:32:45 PM
And cut the Coliingwood crap out  ;D l know l have brought it on myself owning a membership, its just to make it easy to enter games with my family.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You own a Collingwood membership??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

WTF???
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on July 01, 2011, 07:34:23 PM



bottom line is each player is given an opportunity to perform before i personally make my decision to keep or get rid off.

Miller, Hislop and Edwards have been given ample opportunity to deliver consistently and havent.

Supporters like me get frustrated when you have a guy like Post and even Tuck sitting in the stands while spuds like these guys get a gig.

How can playing Post be any worse than Miller. We know Miller is finished but we are not 100% sure about Post so why let Coburg destroy another kid even further. He should play out the year at senior level.



The thing is daniel, we dont know for sure why post is not in favour.

to me it can only be two things.

1: he is either doing something the coaches dont want him to, or he is not doing something the coaches do want him to.

or

2: they just don't like him personally.

Lets for argument sake take a wild guess and say it is the first one.

If you are going to develop him properly, he has to rectify whatever it it is that is keeping him out. playing him for the rest of the season if he does not address whatever the issue is, is hardly the recipe for success, is it?

The decisions being made now are for the long term benefit of the club, not the short term gratification of supporters. those days and the associated years of abysmal failure hopefully are behind us.

If hardwick and co think that the best thing to develop post is to play him at coburg, then so be it. The frustration that you talk of will hopefully be short term pain for long term gain. It may make or break post, but if it breaks him then he was never going to be the player to take us forward anyway - there is much more to being an AFL footballer than raw talent.

The post v miller discussion is a bit of a moot point anyway, as it was really griffiths spot that miller was warming and now he has made way, as was said he would, for big ben. let's just hope the coaches have got their timing right.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on July 01, 2011, 07:34:36 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

There are '2' teams  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

WTF?
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 07:40:49 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

There are '2' teams  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

WTF?

If you read my previous posts you will see l explained that
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 01, 2011, 07:57:22 PM
Very happy to see the bookends miller/mcgaune playing for coburg.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 01, 2011, 07:57:54 PM

So I reckon it isn't a terrible thing out of respect for my wonderful Dad that I keep an eye on his beloved Pies it's the least I can do  :thumbsup

O.K WP, I will give you that one, as long as it's only "one" eye your keeping on them...Nothing else :cheers
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on July 01, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
Yeah I suppose, I mean I shouldn't be hypercritical, after all I keep one of my eyes on Collingwood.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Penelope on July 01, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
brown?
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: The Big Richo on July 01, 2011, 08:12:48 PM
brown?

Occasionally Snake.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
Very happy to see the bookends miller/mcgaune playing for coburg.

when this happening  :lol
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Dice on July 01, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Very happy to see the bookends miller/mcgaune playing for coburg.

Yep...cutting through the crap , that's where it's at.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Smokey on July 01, 2011, 09:31:48 PM

Can hardly make out what your trying to say with the spelling of a 4 year old. You talk too much for a guy with no sense.

Gourdis played a blinder was rewarded with a senior game and looked horrible. Doesn't always work like that.

We don't have a gun first 22 players that need our reserves to play blinders to take positions off them. We carry our last 10 players picked.

Common sense prevails, drop guys who aren't playing well. We haven't got playing ripping up the VFL to come in. Would you like to play with 16 players instead?



And cut the Coliingwood crap out  ;D l know l have brought it on myself owning a membership, its just to make it easy to enter games with my family.
l hate Collingwood with a passion just like Carlton. The Melbourne membership is carried on for my late father because Melbourne is my second club l follow taking him to games when he was unable to take himself. Same as he was a Richmond member so he could take me to games when the club was powerful & winning premierships in the 60, 70, as a kid growing up it was the greatest thing to see & hear.

Now back to the football topic Lets debate this

Gourdis got rewarded because of continued good form you say, "Oh thats what l was saying" you just contridicted my post. players must play well over a period to be rewarded. Why drop Gourdis for 1 bad game when he is clearly the best defender at Coburg & played several consistant games there for all of us wanting him to be selected.   Let him settle & learn how to play with the senior list. That cannot be achevied on the training track. It can only be done in a game under preasure at that level. l find that de-selection a bit of a shock considering Rewoldt is out of form.

We could use that as a example of Griffiths in for Rewoldt but l wont cause Rewoldt is clearly in our best,  But needs a reminder to get on top of his game. He has no injury as said.  Players who carry bad hips from previous games dont try to outmark 200cm giants who are marking well

Thursfield clearly has no form to be rushed in, We know his coming back from injury & played 1 game at Coburg (?) was he in the Coburg best because l never looked.  He lacks match fitness at any level & it will show by halftime in a AFL game. This is not fair nor should be done to the other players in the squad,  to pick up for a player who will run out of match fitness & be a burden on the rest. Maybe Dimma will manage him through & if so l hope he does lead by example cause someone down the backline need to stand up & help mold a defence.

McGuane clearly needs dropping, His game is riddled with flaws. Shouldnot be recalled till his game is clean. Honestly l dont know where his at.

Defense is where we are losing the games. Send Millar down the back is what l would do. He does have good skills & is strong.  We have forwards in Rewoldt & Vickery so maybe this is the structure to bring in Griffiths. His also been down the backline but l would prefer him in the forward if fit. l got nothing against Griffo if he works & maintains his body. l got nothing against Rewoldt by BTW apart from berating his own teammates when he is clearly not in good form.

The only way for Dimma to fix the defence is to build it himself over the next few years with drafting new KPD,  the type that will mold around our running backmen Deledio who is backing himself  with his ball & carry & confident. Even Newman is making crucial mistakes but the preasure is constantly on him.

Now the other thing is all of us are saying how bad some of these players went on the weekend. None of us have given credit to Melbourne who's team were cocky & came to play football.  

1 other thing you said we dont have a gun 22 players for our reserves to take positions off, Thats a good comment & if thats the case you dont reward players like Thursfield or Griffiths that dont have form by pushing out a player like Gourdis after 1 bad game.

But l'm not the coach or do l know his thinking & its obvious to me he knows what his doing cause he is a premiership player at 2 clubs & been involved in premierships at several clubs but l have faith in him. If Thursfield & Griffiths are in then we will just have to watch & if l'm wrong then l will face my critics. If l'm right l still dont get nothing out of it because my team might lose.


Very very good post TM.   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Smokey on July 01, 2011, 09:34:32 PM
miller out for griffiths, as was always going to happen once griffiths was ready. should keep the myopic chicken littles happy, for a while


mcguane and goo out for post and and thursty,

conca and webberly out for king and helbig.


Keeping Miller in the side makes no sense if our most promising KPP is match fit and available. His development comes at the expense of Miller. Miller knows it, BG knows it, Dimma knows it and all would be okay with it. How is that chicken little or are you getting bit chicken little yourself?

not real sure what you are trying to say, but perhaps you have misinterpreted what i was saying.

I'm rapt to see see griffiths replace miller, but i'm glad they waited until they felt he was ready , which is why i tolerated him being in the side for the short term, unlike some.

I get the logic, I don't get this chicken little poo. You say you're happy to see griff in (when ready get that), You're happy enough he replaces miller (still with you at this point) but then make some obscure, smug reference to chicken littlers being kept happy for a few weeks (lost me wtf are YOU talking about)
Bizarre.

The chicken little comment was just a cheap snipe at those constantly calling for miller to be dropped because they cant see past the fact that ability wise he is only an average footballer and see the train of logic in playing him.

They will soon find something else to complain about.

I suppose it wasn't the best analogy in this case. perhaps narrow minded, short sighted, ignorant fools would be more accurate, but that's probably a little too insulting and probably would have led to "snip" ?



 :lol :lol :lol  Thanks for the Friday evening humour moment Al.   :rollin
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: Smokey on July 01, 2011, 09:38:48 PM
Melbourne is my second club

What is a second team ?  There can be only one !

Spot on Blacky, There can only be one! I am a fourth generation Richmond supporter, my cousin played a few games for the bombers but I can assure you there was never a soft spot not even for a second. My daughter started barracking for Geelong after they won there first premiership, she no longer lives here and finds it very lonely at Xmas time.......Tigers forever!!

Nah sorry guys

My late dad played school boy footy for Collingwood at Victoria Park. He was a 2nd generation Pies support. He loved them with a passion. So I keep an eye on them and I will confess last eyar for my Dad I wanted them to win the GF.

But my Dad is a major reason as to why I love the tigers with a passion and have for so long.

My Dad died when I was 7. Ma Powell used to tell the story of how my Dad always said to us that he would never force us to follow the Pies (even though he wanted us too) and he didn't care which team we did end up barrackng for all as long the team we chose we stuck with them them forever because that's what following footy clubs is all about.

I chose the Tigers have been following them for nearly 40 years. Ma Powell used say he my Dad would be proud of my love for the tigers.

So I reckon it isn't a terrible thing out of respect for my wonderful Dad that I keep an eye on his beloved Pies it's the least I can do  :thumbsup

Keep an eye is one thing WP,  feel any sort of empathy is entirely another.   :-\
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: mightytiges on July 02, 2011, 01:22:44 AM
Even though we'll get thrashed, I'm just glad to see the future key forwards all on the ground together today. Now it's up to our midfield to get it down to them often enough.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: TigerLand on July 02, 2011, 02:02:10 AM
Honestly if we can tag Yarran and Scotland out of their comfort zones, Jackson do a job on Judd and win the clearances. I reckon we could be within a chance.

Without Jamieson, they need 3 key defenders to hold down Riewoldt, BG and TV. If Riewoldt can find form we'll win.
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: WA Tiger on July 02, 2011, 02:03:07 AM
So is Griffiths in??? If he is good luck to him, great to finally see him in. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Team for Round 15
Post by: mightytiges on July 02, 2011, 02:35:26 AM
No change to the team last night so unless there's a late change just before the game he'll be playing. A lot of pressure too given Big Ben is our Mr 100% :thumbsup.

Honestly if we can tag Yarran and Scotland out of their comfort zones, Jackson do a job on Judd and win the clearances. I reckon we could be within a chance.

Without Jamieson, they need 3 key defenders to hold down Riewoldt, BG and TV. If Riewoldt can find form we'll win.
Whitey did a great job taking Yarran completely out of the game in round 1 so we'll have to find someone else. Judd got them going and won them the game in the last quarter last time.