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Title: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2009, 07:04:24 PM
Summary on 3aw tonight with Caro, Healy and Russell....

* Healy said 2 weeks ago Jade would have been one of the favourites but the last 2 weeks would've hurt his chances. Caro replied that's why she's said all along that Jade was never one of the favourites.

* Healy thinks Hardwick would be favourite now. Caro was hesistant about his favouritism.

* Caro said heard Ken Hinkley was pretty impressive in his interview. Alan Richardson the sleeper unsung performer due to his low profile in the media

* Timeframe - Caro said she wouldn't be surprised ifthis time next week (Tuesday night) we'll know who the new coach at Richmond is.

* Whispers has Rawlings "no", Richardson "firming".

* Knights was impressed by Richardson (then Coburg coach) when Spud dropped him. Knights as coach then tried to get him to Essendon but Richardson wanted to remain loyal to Collingwood where at the time he was assistant coach. The loyalty factor impressed Knighter even more and so when the contract ended he convinced Richardson to join Essendon as Knighter's assistant.

* Caro reckons Jade's "club culture" comments won't hurt his chances. What will hurt him more is the way the team has played. Caro said there's a selfishness that has pervaded that club for a long time. Healy said there wasn't a culture problem at the Club against Essendon. It's a preparation problem rather than a cultural one.

* Healy said Joel should've been gone at the end of last year. Caro said he almost didn't get another year. No new coach will give Joel a new contract in response to a caller's question. The club won't want to lose Joel entirely as he has many skills. He's just finished as a player. Healy said Joel could have got a game at another club (Carl, Geel, Haw) 8 weeks ago if there was a midyear draft. Caro strongly said Joel is finished and changing jumpers midyear would destroy loyalty in footy. Healy couldn't see the difference between changing clubs midyear compared to the end of the year.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 11, 2009, 07:13:43 PM
The Rawlings NO is good news
The Richardson news whilst not my preferred is acceptable. Hardwick or Richardson would make good coaches IMHO.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: 1965 on August 11, 2009, 07:15:55 PM
The Rawlings NO is good news
The Richardson news whilst not my preferred is acceptable. Hardwick or Richardson would make good coaches IMHO.

Is this what you call hedging your bets?

 :lol
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 11, 2009, 07:18:23 PM
The Rawlings NO is good news
The Richardson news whilst not my preferred is acceptable. Hardwick or Richardson would make good coaches IMHO.

Is this what you call hedging your bets?

 :lol

Nah Ive always said my preference is for Hardwick to get the job and if not then Richardson is 2nd. Hinkley would be my 3rd choice and Jade my 4th choice.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 11, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
I would be very surprised if it is known next week

2nd round interviews, then final candidates present to the board - wont happen in a week

Unless we abandon the "process"

Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 11, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
Nah Ive always said my preference is for Hardwick to get the job and if not then Richardson is 2nd. Hinkley would be my 3rd choice and Jade my 4th choice.

But Richardson doesn't meet your criteria or does having coached a flag in local footy count?

If so be careful with your criteria  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 11, 2009, 10:15:25 PM
Nah Ive always said my preference is for Hardwick to get the job and if not then Richardson is 2nd. Hinkley would be my 3rd choice and Jade my 4th choice.

But Richardson doesn't meet your criteria or does having coached a flag in local footy count?

If so be careful with your criteria  ;) ;D

Im just investigating as we speak  ;D and if it doesnt work out how I want ... Ill do what all Richmond supporters would do ... Id change the criteria to fix the result  :lol
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: tigersalive on August 11, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
I would be very surprised if it is known next week

2nd round interviews, then final candidates present to the board - wont happen in a week

Unless we abandon the "process"


It was said that if there was one stand out the process could be very quick, compared to if there were 3 where the final stage could be an extended affair.

However I can't see us making an announcement until the end of round 22.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: WA Tiger on August 11, 2009, 10:36:37 PM
The club said many many weeks ago as I mentioned that the final decision would be announced within the final week of our last game and I think they look like following that time line. They stuffed up naming Wallace with Spud still in there and surely they couldn't dp it again... :whistle ::)

I am stilll going for Hardwick but Hinkley was my second choice, if Richardson gets it then so be it but I don't think Jade can cut it now.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 12, 2009, 01:32:46 AM
We do not want Richardson, he has done nothing. Did he develop any of our kids when he was at Coburg, the answer to that is NO. He has a recommendation from Mathew Knights Who is a coaching nobody and who himself will not get another contract with the bombers. What did Richardson do at Collingwood? Nothing, they improved when he left.

It has to be Hardwick or Hinkley, both KNOW what it takes to win a premiership, Hardwick as a player and assistant coach, you can't buy that experience. It better be Hardwick.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Footy Brain. on August 12, 2009, 02:01:15 AM
We do not want Richardson, he has done nothing. Did he develop any of our kids when he was at Coburg, the answer to that is NO. He has a recommendation from Mathew Knights Who is a coaching nobody and who himself will not get another contract with the bombers. What did Richardson do at Collingwood? Nothing, they improved when he left.

It has to be Hardwick or Hinkley, both KNOW what it takes to win a premiership, Hardwick as a player and assistant coach, you can't buy that experience. It better be Hardwick.

"It has to be Hardwick or Hinkley, both KNOW what it takes to win a premiership"

What about Peter Sumich?

Think long and hard before you answer.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 12, 2009, 05:57:39 AM
We do not want Richardson, he has done nothing. Did he develop any of our kids when he was at Coburg, the answer to that is NO. He has a recommendation from Mathew Knights Who is a coaching nobody and who himself will not get another contract with the bombers. What did Richardson do at Collingwood? Nothing, they improved when he left.

It has to be Hardwick or Hinkley, both KNOW what it takes to win a premiership, Hardwick as a player and assistant coach, you can't buy that experience. It better be Hardwick.

"It has to be Hardwick or Hinkley, both KNOW what it takes to win a premiership"

What about Peter Sumich?

Think long and hard before you answer.

Hardwick is the standout because he has success at 3 different clubs, seen and experienced 3 different cultures, Sumich has only been at the Eagles. He is similar to Harvey, stayed to long at 1 club and not gone outside to see whate else he could learn.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: wayne on August 12, 2009, 09:02:03 AM
I would be very surprised if it is known next week

2nd round interviews, then final candidates present to the board - wont happen in a week

Unless we abandon the "process"


Especially when Brendan Gale wants to be involved but doesn't start for another 2 weeks!
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: wayne on August 12, 2009, 09:10:10 AM
We do not want Richardson, he has done nothing. Did he develop any of our kids when he was at Coburg, the answer to that is NO.

When he was coaching Coburg, Frawleys policy was to trade our picks and not select kids  :rollin

That's why he couldn't develop any.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: RollsRoyce on August 12, 2009, 09:54:58 AM

What about Peter Sumich?

Think long and hard before you answer.
[/quote]

I'm so glad Peter Sumich is out of the running. He was one of the worst, most unreliable kicks in history (old hook foot I used to call him in his playing days.) If he'd had any hands-on work with our players, he'd have turned them into worse deliverers and finishers of the footy than they already are now. Incidentally, I still hold him personally responsible for the Mudpies winning the 1990 flag. He had the chance to put them in mothballs with a fairly simple shot for goal in an Elimination or Semi Final (can someone clarify this??) and fluffed it. Unforgiveable.     
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: 1980 on August 12, 2009, 11:36:55 AM

What about Peter Sumich?

Think long and hard before you answer.

I'm so glad Peter Sumich is out of the running. He was one of the worst, most unreliable kicks in history (old hook foot I used to call him in his playing days.) If he'd had any hands-on work with our players, he'd have turned them into worse deliverers and finishers of the footy than they already are now. Incidentally, I still hold him personally responsible for the Mudpies winning the 1990 flag. He had the chance to put them in mothballs with a fairly simple shot for goal in an Elimination or Semi Final (can someone clarify this??) and fluffed it. Unforgiveable.     
[/quote]

Now there is a true Richmomnd supporter. Holding a grudge against a bloke because if he kicked straight the scum would have missed another premiership.

Respect  :thumbsup

 :cheers
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 12, 2009, 11:52:04 AM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: tigersalive on August 12, 2009, 12:14:16 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

Cmon ramps, no one else holds back around here, give us more info than that./  ;D
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: FooffooValve on August 12, 2009, 12:16:50 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

What have you hird?
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: wayne on August 12, 2009, 01:00:13 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

The emoticon you've used suggests it's news that is pleasing to you.

C'mon Ramps, just tell us.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: DallasCrane on August 12, 2009, 01:04:30 PM
What have you hird?

LOL

Are you serious Foofoo?

I'd love to have him at Tigerland. 
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: FooffooValve on August 12, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
What have you hird?

LOL

Are you serious Foofoo?

I'd love to have him at Tigerland. 

Sorry, just a wild guess. It was his article in the Herald Sun telling Bucks to take on the Richmond job that set me thinking tho... :-\
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: DallasCrane on August 12, 2009, 01:15:30 PM
Sorry, just a wild guess. It was his article in the Herald Sun telling Bucks to take on the Richmond job that set me thinking tho... :-\

The article had the same effect on me too.
It's like being at a nightclub and encouraging your ugly mate to have a crack at the hot chick over by the bar.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Footy Brain. on August 12, 2009, 01:20:28 PM

What about Peter Sumich?

Think long and hard before you answer.

I'm so glad Peter Sumich is out of the running. He was one of the worst, most unreliable kicks in history (old hook foot I used to call him in his playing days.) If he'd had any hands-on work with our players, he'd have turned them into worse deliverers and finishers of the footy than they already are now. Incidentally, I still hold him personally responsible for the Mudpies winning the 1990 flag. He had the chance to put them in mothballs with a fairly simple shot for goal in an Elimination or Semi Final (can someone clarify this??) and fluffed it. Unforgiveable.     
[/quote]


Two time premiership player, and was in the box alongside John Worsfold when the Eagles won their last trophy. Knows the game inside out, and clearly has the experience and knowledge to be very successful.
In any case, he's now out of the Richmond race, but the criteria you use to judge Sumich as a coach is amusing to say the least.

His "hands on" work somehow didn't screw the Eagles playing group up. 

That old hook foot bagged 111 goals in 1991 and was instrumental with the Eagles success. I could rant on about Richo and his boot. But i wont. We all love him.

Peter Sumich
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/P/Peter_Sumich.html
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 01:41:57 PM
Richo 282 games 800 goals / 551 behinds

Sumich 150 games 514 goals / 354 behinds
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: tiga on August 12, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

What have you hird?
That's funny! Clever play on words.  :clapping
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: FooffooValve on August 12, 2009, 02:07:54 PM
Sorry, just a wild guess. It was his article in the Herald Sun telling Bucks to take on the Richmond job that set me thinking tho... :-\

The article had the same effect on me too.
It's like being at a nightclub and encouraging your ugly mate to have a crack at the hot chick over by the bar.

Lol, yeah, tho in this case it is more like encouraging your handsome mate to have a crack at the ugly chick in the dunny.  ;D
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 12, 2009, 02:11:15 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

What have you hird?
That's funny! Clever play on words.  :clapping

Hopefully the source hasnt been on the sauce. If its true then irrespective of what has been written here on these boards over the last 2 weeks, irrespective of which candidate you think should get the job we should all be on board if this gets up. It would be another great Coup for our club.

And no I do not consider any of the 4 candidates currently being named as being a Huge coup.

As I said its just a rumour. I dont want to say more coz It may or may not be bulldust. Hopefully its true. It would be fantastic for our club IMHO.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: richmondrules on August 12, 2009, 02:31:13 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

What have you hird?
That's funny! Clever play on words.  :clapping

Hopefully the source hasnt been on the sauce. If its true then irrespective of what has been written here on these boards over the last 2 weeks, irrespective of which candidate you think should get the job we should all be on board if this gets up. It would be another great Coup for our club.

And no I do not consider any of the 4 candidates currently being named as being a Huge coup.

As I said its just a rumour. I dont want to say more coz It may or may not be bulldust. Hopefully its true. It would be fantastic for our club IMHO.

If it is true it has Sheedy written all over it.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: wayne on August 12, 2009, 02:47:54 PM
Hmm, something like a Leigh Matthews??

After just hearing on SEN about the Swans having some important announcements...

Paul Roos?
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Smokey on August 12, 2009, 03:17:23 PM
You're all way off the mark.  It's a putsch - Tigermonk is taking over as match day coach with Moi as his Director of Coaching and Brackets as Fitness Co-ordinator.  Should be interesting.

 ;D
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 03:23:24 PM
 ;D good one smoke  :thumbsup tell ya what l reckon l could coach better than Wallace & Rawlings
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: bojangles17 on August 12, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
Im beginning to like richo as an option, fact he has coached own side and impressed speraks volumes tro me :thumbsup
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: the_boy_jake on August 12, 2009, 05:32:16 PM

Hopefully the source hasnt been on the sauce. If its true then irrespective of what has been written here on these boards over the last 2 weeks, irrespective of which candidate you think should get the job we should all be on board if this gets up. It would be another great Coup for our club.

And no I do not consider any of the 4 candidates currently being named as being a Huge coup.

As I said its just a rumour. I dont want to say more coz It may or may not be bulldust. Hopefully its true. It would be fantastic for our club IMHO.

Sheedy wouldn't be a coup given we could have had him 2 weeks ago.
Matthews yes.
Malthouse yes.

The only other ones are the unattainables - Thompson, Roos, Woosha, Lyon etc and none of those are going to come.

So I think Ramps' source is saying either Matthews or Malthouse.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 12, 2009, 07:37:52 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

What have you hird?
That's funny! Clever play on words.  :clapping

Hopefully the source hasnt been on the sauce. If its true then irrespective of what has been written here on these boards over the last 2 weeks, irrespective of which candidate you think should get the job we should all be on board if this gets up. It would be another great Coup for our club.

And no I do not consider any of the 4 candidates currently being named as being a Huge coup.

As I said its just a rumour. I dont want to say more coz It may or may not be bulldust. Hopefully its true. It would be fantastic for our club IMHO.

L, Matthews
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: yellowandback on August 12, 2009, 07:54:52 PM
 
Sorry, just a wild guess. It was his article in the Herald Sun telling Bucks to take on the Richmond job that set me thinking tho... :-\

The article had the same effect on me too.
It's like being at a nightclub and encouraging your ugly mate to have a crack at the hot chick over by the bar.
:lol v funny.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: mightytiges on August 12, 2009, 08:20:20 PM
My sauces or sources tell me that a HUGE BOMBSHELL could be looming on this issue :gotigers

What have you hird?
That's funny! Clever play on words.  :clapping

Hopefully the source hasnt been on the sauce. If its true then irrespective of what has been written here on these boards over the last 2 weeks, irrespective of which candidate you think should get the job we should all be on board if this gets up. It would be another great Coup for our club.

And no I do not consider any of the 4 candidates currently being named as being a Huge coup.

As I said its just a rumour. I dont want to say more coz It may or may not be bulldust. Hopefully its true. It would be fantastic for our club IMHO.

L, Matthews
Don't believe he's interested in being a senior coach again. That's what Lethal has said publicly anyway. Maybe tempt him more with a coaching director role - analyse and mentor our coaches.

eg:
Football Head Manager: Craig Cameron
Coaching Director: Matthews
Chief opposition and tactical analyst: Laidley
Senior Coach: Hardwick, Hinkley or Richardson?
Assistant Coaches: Campbell, ?, ?
Development Coaches: McRae, Johnson, Rawlings (Coburg)
Chief Recruiter: Francis Jackson
Fitness and conditioning staff: Clean out....
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Tigermonk on August 13, 2009, 07:01:53 AM

eg:
Football Head Manager: Craig Cameron
Coaching Director: Matthews
Chief opposition and tactical analyst: Laidley
Senior Coach: Hardwick, Hinkley or Richardson?
Assistant Coaches: Campbell, ?, ?
Development Coaches: McRae, Johnson, Rawlings (Coburg)
Chief Recruiter: Francis Jackson
Fitness and conditioning staff: Clean out....


MT the fantasy was working till you stuffed up the DEVELOPMENT COACHES   ::)
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 15, 2009, 05:34:38 PM
Only a big name like Matthews or someone with the reputation of Hardwick can do this job.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 15, 2009, 05:46:48 PM
Only a big name like Matthews or someone with the reputation of Hardwick can do this job.

Yep only a big name.
After today, only Matthews, forget about the process.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Infamy on August 15, 2009, 05:48:15 PM
Only a big name like Matthews or someone with the reputation of Hardwick can do this job.

Yep only a big name.
After today, only Matthews, forget about the process.

I guess no one will coach us then
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 15, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
Matthews has been uncertain of what he wants to do - Hardwick should be offered the job tonight IMHO.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Infamy on August 15, 2009, 06:00:55 PM
Matthews has been uncertain of what he wants to do - Hardwick should be offered the job tonight IMHO.
Matthews has been very certain and clear in the fact he has no desire to continue coaching
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Ramps on August 15, 2009, 06:03:00 PM
Matthews has been uncertain of what he wants to do - Hardwick should be offered the job tonight IMHO.
Matthews has been very certain and clear in the fact he has no desire to continue coaching

Then we should be giving the job to Damien Hardwick this evening.

Having coached your own side is no real advantage as Rawlings has proved. The only thing that counts is AFL Premiership experience and Hardwick has that in spades.
Title: Re: Caro and Healy on 3aw - we may know new coach in a week; Richardson firming
Post by: Smokey on August 15, 2009, 06:06:14 PM
Matthews has been uncertain of what he wants to do - Hardwick should be offered the job tonight IMHO.

Can I ask what has changed in the past 24 hours?  They played the same today as they have been playing for the last 3 - 4 weeks (sorry, season).  If anyone saw anything in today's game that they hadn't seen for most of the year then they are kidding themselves.  Our new coach will have plenty of ability to work with and how he gets the utmost of that ability out of the playing group will be the important thing.  Hardness for hardness sake is way overrated - the new coach's challenge will be to instill hardness in the players and that does not necessarily mean being hard yourself.  Strength of character will be a key - don't confuse that with 'hardness'.  As long as our process places this attribute high on the list then we will do ok, regardless of who it is.