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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on January 08, 2014, 08:07:39 PM
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A very unoriginal thread for this time of year but here goes anyway to pass the time over the quiet New Year's period.
Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Where will the Tigers finish?
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Sydney - Premiers :P
Fremantle
Richmond :pray
Hawthorn
Carlton
North
Collingwood
Port
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Bomber Thompson lol.
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Hard to split. Say GWS - a la Suns 2013.
Where will the Tigers finish?
At least 2nd week of the finals if we want to claim we have taken the next step.
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Sydney - Premiers :P
Fremantle
Richmond :pray
Hawthorn
Carlton
North
Collingwood
Port
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Bomber Thompson lol.
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Hard to split. Say GWS - a la Suns 2013.
Where will the Tigers finish?
At least 2nd week of the finals if we want to claim we have taken the next step.
I stopped reading when you had Carlton in the top 8.
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Freo
Hawshawn
Swannies
Mighty Tiges
Gary Ablett ummmm I mean Gold Coast
Norf
Wobble Pies
West Coasters
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Brendan McCartney with the club regretting the new two year contract.
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Melbourne by far with Roosey at the helm.
Where will the Tigers finish?
Premiers, and that's not a biased opinion and it doesn't matter that I say they will win every year. We have the class to do it!
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Hawthorn (Premiers)
Sydney
Freo
Geelong
Richmond
Carlton
C'wood
Essendon
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Sanderson
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
St Kilda - 7
Where will the Tigers finish?
H&A - 5th will win their 1st final, lose their 2nd one
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Sydney (Premiers)
Freo
C'wood
Richmond
Hawthorn
Carlton
Geelong
West Coast
First coach to be sacked or quit?
McKenna
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Melbourne - 6
Where will the Tigers finish?
H&A - 4th, will lose their Prelim Final
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Hawthorn
Richmond
North Melbourne
Sydney - Flag
Fremantle
Essendon
Geelong
Adelaide
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Buckley
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Melbourne
Where will the Tigers finish?
Preliminary Final
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Final Ladder
Freo
Sydney ( premiers )
Hawthorn
West Coast
Geelong
North
Port
Richmond
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Carlton
Collingwood
Adelaide
Bulldogs
Gold Coast
Melbourne
Essendon
Brisbane
GWS
St.Kilda
First coach goneski - Sanderson
Finish higher - Melbourne
Tiges - Dunno , hope we can make finals and win at least one. Not overly confident tho.
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How can so many of you have Carltank in the 8 ? They're absolutely no chance with their old bums all over the ground
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How can so many of you have Carltank in the 8 ? They're absolutely no chance with their old bums all over the ground
I was gonna ask the same question about Essendon ?
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How can so many of you have Carltank in the 8 ? They're absolutely no chance with their old bums all over the ground
I was gonna ask the same question about Essendon ?
Essendon at least made the 8 on their own this year. Carlton didn't and are no chance.
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Essendon at least made the 8 on their own this year. Carlton didn't and are no chance.
You wanna bet on me on who finishes higher of the two ? Mick is a good coach and has had a year to look over his list. I think they'll improve a bit. Whereas Essendon are just crap. They're easybeats.
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Hawthorn
Shydney
Freo
Geel
North
Richmond
Carlton
Gold Coast
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Port
Collingwood
Adelaide
Wc
Esdendon
Bulldogs
Melbourne
Brisbane
GWS
St.Kilda
First coach goneski - buckeroo
Finish higher - Melbourne
Tiges - Prelim
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Essendon at least made the 8 on their own this year. Carlton didn't and are no chance.
You wanna bet on me on who finishes higher of the two ? Mick is a good coach and has had a year to look over his list. I think they'll improve a bit. Whereas Essendon are just crap. They're easybeats.
Essendon will finish above Carlton. Carlton have a good (aged) midfield and nothing else
Daisy Thomas's ankle will snap before he plays a senior game
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Essendon will finish above Carlton.
I'll have a schooner on it with you ;D. We can catch up before our first final next year and you can pay me then ok ?
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Essendon will finish above Carlton.
I'll have a schooner on it with you ;D. We can catch up before our first final next year and you can pay me then ok ?
How about a jug
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How about a jug
You're on ! Bottom 6 finish coming up for the Bombers
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2014 the drought will be ended and the 11th Tin Mug will finally land in the Trophy Cabinet at Punt Road.
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How about a jug
You're on ! Bottom 6 finish coming up for the Bombers
the bet is for the bombers to finish above blues and that only
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2014 the drought will be ended and the 11th Tin Mug will finally land in the Trophy Cabinet at Punt Road.
let's just win a final first ok champ
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geez carlton and essendon where will they finish. ill do some basic stats on them.
first carlton best 22 give or take , plus depth in 2014 imo.
B: Walker 27yo/165gms/ 190cm/90kg - Jamison 27yo/118gms / 193cm/98kg - Tuohy 24yo/54gms / 187cm/91kg
HB: Scotland 33yo/264gms / 182cm/82kg - Watson 21yo/16gms / 195cm / 100kg - Everitt 25yo / 79gms / 194cm / 89kg
C: Carazzo 30yo /164gms / 187cm / 85kg - Mclean 28yo/141gms / 184cm/85kg - Gibbs 25yo/155gms / 188cm/86kg
R: Warnock 27yo/70gms / 206cm/104kg - judd 30yo/259gms / 189cm/89kg - murphy 26yo/165gms / 180cm/82kg.
HF: Thomas 26yo/157gms / 185cm/86kg - Henderson 24yo/84gms / 196cm/96kg - Robinson 24yo/88gms / 185cm/86kg
F: Garlett 24yo/98gms / 180cm/75kg - Waite 31yo/168gms / 194cn/95kg - Kruezer 24yo / 105gms / 200cm/103kg
INT: Simpson 29yo/200gms / 182cm/79kg - Curnow 24yo/51gms 182cm/84kg - Bell 22yo/16gms 187cm/96kg - Yarran 23yo/84gms / 180cm/84kg
Menzel 19yo/7gms 187cm / 78kg / Cripps 18yo/0gms 193cm/81kg - Lucas 22yo /188cm/83kg - Docherty 20yo/13gms / 184cm/84kg - Mcinnes 22yo/16gms / 191cm/87kg.
Armfield 27yo/105gms / 181cm/82kg - Graham 19yo/2gms / 182cm 80kg. Duigan 29yo/43gms/186cm/88kg.
the top 22 has lots of height and size.it has heaps of experience with a lot of players in the mature up age bracket, and theres a lot of 100 plus gamers. imo its a flexable side as well with the tall options.
experience games and age wise they need to make finals, they have very good structure but they lack numbers overall in talls ruck/kpd/kpf right across the board. they can ill afford a poor run of injury to their talls. imo like a lot of sides lack of depth and the lack of games in to enough younger blokes will probably catch em out.
will do essendon later.
cant believe i left out the onballers.
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Sydney - Premiers :P
Fremantle
Richmond :pray
Hawthorn
Carlton
North
Collingwood
Port
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Bomber Thompson lol.
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Hard to split. Say GWS - a la Suns 2013.
Where will the Tigers finish?
At least 2nd week of the finals if we want to claim we have taken the next step.
I stopped reading when you had Carlton in the top 8.
Well they beat us in the finals :banghead. Never underestimate a Malthouse coached side as far as making the finals. Even when they finish ninth, they still make it :scream.
The only ones I hesitated about were West Coast and Adelaide and whether they would improve to regain their old-school home ground advantage. Hard to argue for them when the Eagles' midfield was one of the slowest last year and Adelaide's forward line was one of the worst with no reliable forward targets. Even with Walker back, they still at best will be too one-dimensional.
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Sydney - Premiers :P
Fremantle
Richmond :pray
Hawthorn
Carlton
North
Collingwood
Port
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Bomber Thompson lol.
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Hard to split. Say GWS - a la Suns 2013.
Where will the Tigers finish?
At least 2nd week of the finals if we want to claim we have taken the next step.
I stopped reading when you had Carlton in the top 8.
Well they beat us in the finals :banghead. Never underestimate a Malthouse coached side as far as making the finals. Even when they finish ninth, they still make it :scream.
The only ones I hesitated about were West Coast and Adelaide and whether they would improve to regain their old-school home ground advantage. Hard to argue for them when the Eagles' midfield was one of the slowest last year and Adelaide's forward line was one of the worst with no reliable forward targets. Even with Walker back, they still at best will be too one-dimensional.
Who else did they beat besides us ? They did not beat anyone except us.
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Sydney - Premiers :P
Fremantle
Richmond :pray
Hawthorn
Carlton
North
Collingwood
Port
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Bomber Thompson lol.
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Hard to split. Say GWS - a la Suns 2013.
Where will the Tigers finish?
At least 2nd week of the finals if we want to claim we have taken the next step.
I stopped reading when you had Carlton in the top 8.
Well they beat us in the finals :banghead. Never underestimate a Malthouse coached side as far as making the finals. Even when they finish ninth, they still make it :scream.
The only ones I hesitated about were West Coast and Adelaide and whether they would improve to regain their old-school home ground advantage. Hard to argue for them when the Eagles' midfield was one of the slowest last year and Adelaide's forward line was one of the worst with no reliable forward targets. Even with Walker back, they still at best will be too one-dimensional.
Who else did they beat besides us ? They did not beat anyone except us.
they beat us twice and port twice.
lost to ess twice by less than a kick. they beat the best team outside the 8 in north. they were within 17 points of coll,geel,and hawthorn.
their biggest losses was 41 points to coll and 36 to freo.
seems they were pretty competetive in most games.
i remember well 2012 and richmond.
on adelaide
walker podsiadly, lynch who had a good season a break out season in some ways and a bloke i am impressed with in jenkins who will play the second ruck/for role, throw in betts a fit porplysia and their forward line looks as good as anyones almost.
its not the forwards who will let adelaide down if they stay healthy but a lack of midfield depth that will bite em if anything.
structurally i think them a very good side.
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Adelaide keep producing quality tall timber. I like the look of Jenkins too
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Adelaide keep producing quality tall timber. I like the look of Jenkins too
They also have Tom Lynch who I watched kicked 10 against GWS.
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Fremantle
Hawthorn
Richmond
North Melbourne
Port Adelaide
Carlton
Geelong
Gold Coast
sacked coach - Sanderson
Finish higher - Melbourne
Tiges - Prelim
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Top 8:
Sydney (premiers)
Hawthorn
Geelong
Fremantle
Collingwood
Richmond
North Melbourne
Port Adelaide
First coach to go:
Sanderson
Best cellar/dweller:
Melbourne 6-8 wins
Richmond: 6th with about 14-8
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geez carlton and essendon where will they finish. ill do some basic stats on them.
first carlton best 22 give or take , plus depth in 2014 imo.
B: Walker 27yo/165gms/ 190cm/90kg - Jamison 27yo/118gms / 193cm/98kg - Tuohy 24yo/54gms / 187cm/91kg
HB: Scotland 33yo/264gms / 182cm/82kg - Watson 21yo/16gms / 195cm / 100kg - Everitt 25yo / 79gms / 194cm / 89kg
C: Carazzo 30yo /164gms / 187cm / 85kg - Mclean 28yo/141gms / 184cm/85kg - Gibbs 25yo/155gms / 188cm/86kg
HF: Thomas 26yo/157gms / 185cm/86kg - Henderson 24yo/84gms / 196cm/96kg - Robinson 24yo/88gms / 185cm/86kg
F: Garlett 24yo/98gms / 180cm/75kg - Waite 31yo/168gms / 194cn/95kg - Kruezer 24yo / 105gms / 200cm/103kg
INT: Simpson 29yo/200gms / 182cm/79kg - Curnow 24yo/51gms 182cm/84kg - Bell 22yo/16gms 187cm/96kg - Yarran 23yo/84gms / 180cm/84kg
Menzel 19yo/7gms 187cm / 78kg / Cripps 18yo/0gms 193cm/81kg - Lucas 22yo /188cm/83kg - Docherty 20yo/13gms / 184cm/84kg - Mcinnes 22yo/16gms / 191cm/87kg.
Armfield 27yo/105gms / 181cm/82kg - Graham 19yo/2gms / 182cm 80kg. Duigan 29yo/43gms/186cm/88kg.
the top 22 has lots of height and size.it has heaps of experience with a lot of players in the mature up age bracket, and theres a lot of 100 plus gamers. imo its a flexable side as well with the tall options.
experience games and age wise they need to make finals, they have very good structure but they lack numbers overall in talls ruck/kpd/kpf right across the board. they can ill afford a poor run of injury to their talls. imo like a lot of sides lack of depth and the lack of games in to enough younger blokes will probably catch em out.
will do essendon later.
Why dont you just post your perfect side then we can all see what you're actually aiming at. No names just the stats, positions etc feel free to do an allstar team..i would for one would love to see what you come up with.. Something for all teams to aim for.
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McViegh Pavlich Hodge
Deledio.NRiewoldt. Hannerby.
Ablett. Cotchin. Fyfe.
Dangerfield. Tippet. Pendelbury.
Griffiths. JRiewoldt. SJohnson.
NicNat. JSelwood. KJack .
Martin. Crowley. HTaylor. Bartel
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McViegh Pavlich Hodge
Deledio.NRiewoldt. Hannerby.
Ablett. Cotchin. Fyfe.
Dangerfield. Tippet. Pendelbury.
Griffiths. JRiewoldt. SJohnson.
NicNat. JSelwood. KJack .
Martin. Crowley. HTaylor. Bartel
Need to get rid of at least 10 players the average age is to old and need to draft 5-6 young KPP's Roo's legs are shot, Hannerby's to slow Nic Nat doesnt have any play reading talent, Delideo is to soft.. Need to replace these guys etc etc etc.. :whistle
Nice side though :lol
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geez carlton and essendon where will they finish. ill do some basic stats on them.
first carlton best 22 give or take , plus depth in 2014 imo.
B: Walker 27yo/165gms/ 190cm/90kg - Jamison 27yo/118gms / 193cm/98kg - Tuohy 24yo/54gms / 187cm/91kg
HB: Scotland 33yo/264gms / 182cm/82kg - Watson 21yo/16gms / 195cm / 100kg - Everitt 25yo / 79gms / 194cm / 89kg
C: Carazzo 30yo /164gms / 187cm / 85kg - Mclean 28yo/141gms / 184cm/85kg - Gibbs 25yo/155gms / 188cm/86kg
HF: Thomas 26yo/157gms / 185cm/86kg - Henderson 24yo/84gms / 196cm/96kg - Robinson 24yo/88gms / 185cm/86kg
F: Garlett 24yo/98gms / 180cm/75kg - Waite 31yo/168gms / 194cn/95kg - Kruezer 24yo / 105gms / 200cm/103kg
INT: Simpson 29yo/200gms / 182cm/79kg - Curnow 24yo/51gms 182cm/84kg - Bell 22yo/16gms 187cm/96kg - Yarran 23yo/84gms / 180cm/84kg
Menzel 19yo/7gms 187cm / 78kg / Cripps 18yo/0gms 193cm/81kg - Lucas 22yo /188cm/83kg - Docherty 20yo/13gms / 184cm/84kg - Mcinnes 22yo/16gms / 191cm/87kg.
Armfield 27yo/105gms / 181cm/82kg - Graham 19yo/2gms / 182cm 80kg. Duigan 29yo/43gms/186cm/88kg.
the top 22 has lots of height and size.it has heaps of experience with a lot of players in the mature up age bracket, and theres a lot of 100 plus gamers. imo its a flexable side as well with the tall options.
experience games and age wise they need to make finals, they have very good structure but they lack numbers overall in talls ruck/kpd/kpf right across the board. they can ill afford a poor run of injury to their talls. imo like a lot of sides lack of depth and the lack of games in to enough younger blokes will probably catch em out.
will do essendon later.
Why dont you just post your perfect side then we can all see what you're actually aiming at. No names just the stats, positions etc feel free to do an allstar team..i would for one would love to see what you come up with.. Something for all teams to aim for.
tsk tsk little bengal. no need for all the angst.
all ive done is put up the carlton side on a prediction thread, after a couple of posters were debating who would finish higher between them carlton and essendon.
ive put up age games played height and size nothing more. it at least gives those debating the two teams an idea of where those teams are at structurally and age experience wise.
you know little bengal if all you want to read is how good we are i suggest you go to the rfc site. sheesh.
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Hey claw, make a combined best 22 from Carlton and Richmond
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as i said id do essendon
b: baguelly 26yrs/28gms / 181cm/83kg - hurley 23yrs/79gms/ 195cm/97kg - fletcher 38yrs/378gms / 198cm/93kg
hb: hibberd 24yo/44gms / 187cm/90kg - hooker 25yo/88gms / 197cm/98kg - dempsey 26yo/88gms / 187cm/85kg.
c: stanton 27yo/203gms / 185cm/85kg - zaharakis 24yo/87gms / 185cm/85kg - heppell 21yo/62gms / 189cm/85kg
r: bellchambers 24yo/61gms / 202cm/110kg - watson 29yo/173gms / 191cm/95kg - myers 24yo/65gms / 191cm92kg
hf: winderlich 29yo/112gms / 188cm/82kg - carlisle 22yo/49gms / 200cm/98kg - goddard 28yo/227gms / 189cm/94kg
f : ryder 26yo/149gms / 197cm/94kg - daniher 20yo/5gms / 201cm/94kg - chapman 32yo/ 251gms / 179cm/89kg.
int: howlett 25yo/76gms / 180cm/80kg - hocking 26yo/97gms / 186cm/88kg - melksham 22yo/80gms / 186cm/84kg - merrett 21yo/14gms / 187cm/80kg
just 3 juniors, 5 with less than 50 games. basically 8 100 gamers, with 9 having played between 50 and 99games.
plenty of height and a lot of size.
the ave games played is just on 110gms per player. the ave age is 25.5.
so quality aside, as we can argue all day about who is good and who isnt and do argue about these things. they have very good structure are mature and experienced. with that 22 top 8 is a must if not top 4.
like most sides depth is a concern as has been shown the last two or three yrs when injuries have hit aplenty.
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Hey claw, make a combined best 22 from Carlton and Richmond
what and cop abuse for the next 12 months :o oh why not should be fun.
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combined rfc cfc team geez if lucky it might win a flag or two.
based mainly on performance and maintaining proper positions and structure. with a little bit of potential thrown in.
b: morris 25yo/43gms 185/83 - jamison 27yo/118gms /193/98 - chaplin 28yo/162gms 195cm/99kg. imo jamison is one of the most reliable one v one players in the comp and a monty for f/b.
hb: vlastuin 19yo/18gms / 187/87 - henderson 24yo/84gms / 196/96 - gibbs 25yo/155gms / 188/86 . flossy on potential, prefer henderson over rance. imo rance was fighting with chaplin.could have picked any one of many for gibbs spot that are in the team.
C: murphy 26yo/165gms / 180/82 - judd 30yo/259gms / 189/89 - deledio 26yo/195gms / 188/88.
R: maric 28yo/118gms / 201/102 - martin 22yo/86gms 187/89 - cotchin 23yo/108gms / 185/85. sort of speaks for itself. chose maric over warnock because he offers more around the ground and when the ball hits the ground.also an option forward.
hf: garlett 24yo/98gms / 178/76 - riewoldt 25yo/134gms 195/94 - thomas 26yo/157gms / 185/86. garlett is the stand out small forward on both lists. thomas is a very good forward coming off his ankle maybe the place to ease him in. hes a very good mid.
F: walker 27yo/165gms / 190/90 - waite 31yo/168gms / 195/95 - kruezer 24yo/105gms / 200/103. an all carlton line it does highlight the lack of established forwards at richmond.
chose walker because of his height and marking prowess. plays like a medium. a real hard match up and hes kicked 50 in a season. waite love him or hate him is the next best kp forward behind jack. kruezer is easily the best ruck/forward option.
int: simpson 29yo/200gms 182/79 - carazzo 30yo/164gms / 187/87 - ellis 20yo/42gms / 181/81 - then take your pick jackson,scotland, mcclean, conca and others.
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Henderson over floss you having a giggle
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combined rfc cfc team geez if lucky it might win a flag or two.
based mainly on performance and maintaining proper positions and structure. with a little bit of potential thrown in.
b: morris 25yo/43gms 185/83 - jamison 27yo/118gms /193/98 - chaplin 28yo/162gms 195cm/99kg. imo jamison is one of the most reliable one v one players in the comp and a monty for f/b.
hb: vlastuin 19yo/18gms / 187/87 - henderson 24yo/84gms / 196/96 - gibbs 25yo/155gms / 188/86 . flossy on potential, prefer henderson over rance. imo rance was fighting with chaplin.could have picked any one of many for gibbs spot that are in the team.
C: murphy 26yo/165gms / 180/82 - judd 30yo/259gms / 189/89 - deledio 26yo/195gms / 188/88.
R: maric 28yo/118gms / 201/102 - martin 22yo/86gms 187/89 - cotchin 23yo/108gms / 185/85. sort of speaks for itself. chose maric over warnock because he offers more around the ground and when the ball hits the ground.also an option forward.
hf: garlett 24yo/98gms / 178/76 - riewoldt 25yo/134gms 195/94 - thomas 26yo/157gms / 185/86. garlett is the stand out small forward on both lists. thomas is a very good forward coming off his ankle maybe the place to ease him in. hes a very good mid.
F: walker 27yo/165gms / 190/90 - waite 31yo/168gms / 195/95 - kruezer 24yo/105gms / 200/103. an all carlton line it does highlight the lack of established forwards at richmond.
chose walker because of his height and marking prowess. plays like a medium. a real hard match up and hes kicked 50 in a season. waite love him or hate him is the next best kp forward behind jack. kruezer is easily the best ruck/forward option.
int: simpson 29yo/200gms 182/79 - carazzo 30yo/164gms / 187/87 - ellis 20yo/42gms / 181/81 - then take your pick jackson,scotland, mcclean, conca and others.
Ta, actually it's identical to what I'd have.
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between round 15 and 20 people will realise that our time has come and that we are a Premiership contender. :gotigers
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I'd believe you if you didn't say that every other year. You're like an old cuckoo clock
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Henderson over floss you having a giggle
i reckon if you spoke to most non richmond people they would take henderson over rance. i dont let my allegiances get in the way of facts. so no im not having a giggle i rate henderson a better player.
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I'd believe you if you didn't say that every other year. You're like an old cuckoo clock
I'll give you the tip - no one gives a stuff what you believe ok ;D
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I'd believe you if you didn't say that every other year. You're like an old cuckoo clock
I'll give you the tip - no one gives a stuff what you believe ok ;D
and everyone knows you give the same prediction every year
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as i said id do essendon
b: baguelly 26yrs/28gms / 181cm/83kg - hurley 23yrs/79gms/ 195cm/97kg - fletcher 38yrs/378gms / 198cm/93kg
hb: hibberd 24yo/44gms / 187cm/90kg - hooker 25yo/88gms / 197cm/98kg - dempsey 26yo/88gms / 187cm/85kg.
c: stanton 27yo/203gms / 185cm/85kg - zaharakis 24yo/87gms / 185cm/85kg - heppell 21yo/62gms / 189cm/85kg
r: bellchambers 24yo/61gms / 202cm/110kg - watson 29yo/173gms / 191cm/95kg - myers 24yo/65gms / 191cm92kg
hf: winderlich 29yo/112gms / 188cm/82kg - carlisle 22yo/49gms / 200cm/98kg - goddard 28yo/227gms / 189cm/94kg
f : ryder 26yo/149gms / 197cm/94kg - daniher 20yo/5gms / 201cm/94kg - chapman 32yo/ 251gms / 179cm/89kg.
int: howlett 25yo/76gms / 180cm/80kg - hocking 26yo/97gms / 186cm/88kg - melksham 22yo/80gms / 186cm/84kg - merrett 21yo/14gms / 187cm/80kg
just 3 juniors, 5 with less than 50 games. basically 8 100 gamers, with 9 having played between 50 and 99games.
plenty of height and a lot of size.
the ave games played is just on 110gms per player. the ave age is 25.5.
so quality aside, as we can argue all day about who is good and who isnt and do argue about these things. they have very good structure are mature and experienced. with that 22 top 8 is a must if not top 4.
like most sides depth is a concern as has been shown the last two or three yrs when injuries have hit aplenty.
Couldnt help but interpret 'gms' as 'grams' for this team
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Your Top 8 and Premiers for 2014?
Fremantle
Sydney
Hawthorn
Richmond
North Melbourne
Geelong
Collingwood
West Coast
First coach to be sacked or quit?
Mick Malthouse
Who will win more games - Melbourne, St Kilda or GWS?
Melbourne
Where will the Tigers finish?
4th after finals
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Henderson is a gun but Rance has proven himself. Get rid of the big fairy from the BP and put Rance in.
Claw, where are your rucks and onballers? No Maric, Chimp or Martin in that side.
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Martin is in the side
I re-read then post 27 times to find him
Its like fliooin where wally
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they have very good structure are mature and experienced. with that 22 top 8 is a must if not top 4.
like most sides depth is a concern as has been shown the last two or three yrs when injuries have hit aplenty.
I'll bet you $1,000,000. they don't finish top 4. And puhleease , you're starting to sound like an Essendon supporter now Claw.
Injuries have had SWEET FA to do with their annual round 15 onwards capitulation. Capitulation which renders them close to the worst side in the AFL from that point on EVERY year for the past 5 years. I can produce the stats if you want ?
Nope , nothing to do with injuries or drugs or whatever. They are just pathetic excuses. Essendon are simply crap.
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And here are the stats >>
2008 - Rd 16 on - 2 wins , 5 losses. Last 3 games were losses by 56 , 46 and 108 pts.
2009 - Rd 16 on - 2 wins , 4 losses , 1 draw. Finished 8th , lost 1st final by 96 pts
2010 - Rd 16 on - 2 wins , 5 losses. Last 4 games lost by 76 , 98 , 27 and 29 pts
2011 - Rd 16 on - 5 wins , 4 losses. 3 of 4 losses by 74 , 74 and 57 pts. Finished 8th. Lost 1st final by 62 pts
2012 - Rd 16 on - 1 win in rd 16 then lost next 7 games by 67 , 94 , 4 , 24 , 94 , 45 and 32 pts
2013 - Rd 16 on - 3 wins , 5 losses , Lost 5 out of last 6 games by 56 , 79 , 53 , 45 and 39 pts.
15 wins , 30 losses , 1 draw.
15 of 30 losses by over 40 pts.
So , as you can see , their excuses are just that , excuses !
What will their excuse be this year I wonder ?
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Essendank always win the June flag though
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Essendank always win the June flag though
:thumbsup
They do indeed Mrak. About round 12 when they are sitting top 4 and all the usual tard journos are talking flags , that's when I start making my bets with all the deluded Essendon folk out here in Tulla. Easiest money you can make every year. Give it a try mate. Find a bomber supporter at the halfway mark of 2015 and you can basically just take their cash off them.
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Essendank always win the June flag though
:thumbsup
They do indeed Mrak. About round 12 when they are sitting top 4 and all the usual tard journos are talking flags , that's when I start making my bets with all the deluded Essendon folk out here in Tulla. Easiest money you can make every year. Give it a try mate. Find a bomber supporter at the halfway mark of 2015 and you can basically just take their cash off them.
:cheers
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I predict our best season since. 1982.
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I predict our best season since. 1982.
Ending the same way ?
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Ending the same way ?
Don't even go there >:(
I still have nightmares about that game.
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Ending the same way ?
Don't even go there >:(
I still have nightmares about that game.
For what it's worth. I heard D'amico has passed on
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those voices you hear in your head are not real
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;D
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those voices you hear in your head are not real
Excuse me but I had a stint in Larundel that got rid of those voices. Thanks
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:lol
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Matthew Lloyd has tipped the Bombers to make the top four this season.
Like most pundits, Lloyd expects Hawthorn, Fremantle and the Sydney Swans to be the teams to beat in the race for this year's premiership.
And he thinks Geelong, North Melbourne and Richmond will fight it out with Essendon for fourth place on the ladder.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-11/dons-for-top-four-lloyd
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LLoydy is a champ and a top bloke but gee he's biased
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We're 7th favourite for the flag with the bookies.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgPEF0WCAAAF1cc.png)
https://twitter.com/sportsbetcomau/status/433405593546551296/photo/1
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lol norf
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Bombers top 4 :rollin. At least Lloyd is consistent when he's wrong :wallywink.
I'd like Lloyd to explain who is going to kick a winning score for the Bombers this year? Crameri has gone, Bellchambers is injured long-term and Hurley will be in the backline. That leaves only a raw Daniher in only his second year and Carlisle playing forward permanently rather than as a 2nd half pinch hitter. Essendon will probably be May premiers again :sleep before crashing and burning out of the Eight as they usually do.
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What is concerning is the amount of flogs backing norf for the flag. Last I checked they finished well out of the 8
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I'd like Lloyd to explain who is going to kick a winning score for the Bombers this year? Crameri has gone, Bellchambers is injured long-term and Hurley will be in the backline. That leaves only a raw Daniher in only his second year and Carlisle playing forward permanently rather than as a 2nd half pinch hitter. Essendon will probably be May premiers again :sleep before crashing and burning out of the Eight as they usually do.
This ! :bow
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AFL 2014 win predictions: will your team beat the line?
Herald Sun
February 17, 2014 11:48AM
AFL writers Jay Clark, Sam Landsberger and Gilbert Gardiner predict how many matches your team will win in 2014.
RICHMOND
Sportsbet line: 13 wins
Clark: Over $1.88
Like North, the Tigers are one of the challengers with a realistic chance of jumping into the top-four. A soft draw and the addition of Shaun Hampson to provide some ruck support for Ivan Maric helps their cause. Elite midfield showed it can beat premier Hawthorn. Won 14 last year and should be better.
Landsberger: Over $1.88
Like the Crows, kept coming back with an even 14 wins for the Tiges. This is impossible to split. So, take the value and join the Tiger Army.
Gardiner: Over $1.88
On the right track to push for a top four spot, but a lot depends on the Tigers overcoming bogeys Carlton, North Melbourne and Essendon. Tigers remain a dangerous betting proposition for mine, capable of 13 wins but prone to shock losses. Not for my money.
Read more: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2014-win-predictions-will-your-team-beat-the-line/story-fni5f22o-1226829258425#ixzz2tXWATESO
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What an idiot. How many shock losses did we have last year? Did we win 14 games or 15 ? Is Essendon our bogey side ? What an idiot.
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Essendon? I wouldn't even call North a bogey side lol.
What about Geelong? Collingwood? Sigh...
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l predict we will finish 6th Any higher will be a bonus :thumbsup
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IF I WAS A GAMBLER ID HAVE SOME MONEY ON THE PIES AT THOSE ODDS. WHOOPS Apologies im not yelling.
in fact if every thing goes well injuries etc my momey is on a syd v coll g/f.
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8th position for us in2014.
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IF I WAS A GAMBLER ID HAVE SOME MONEY ON THE PIES AT THOSE ODDS. WHOOPS Apologies im not yelling.
in fact if every thing goes well injuries etc my momey is on a syd v coll g/f.
Collingwood will finish 6-10. No chance of flag, 1990, 2010, 2020
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The bookies really took notice of our loss to Melbourne in a preseason game :nope lol.
$
Fremantle 4.50
Hawthorn 4.50
Sydney 5.50
Geelong 9.00
Collingwood 13
North Melb. 13
Carlton 17
Richmond 17
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Essendon 21
Adelaide 26
West Coast 26
Port Adel. 34
Gold Coast 101
W.Bulldogs 101
Brisbane 151
Melbourne 251
St Kilda 251
GWS Giants 501
https://www.tab.com.au/#!/nsw/sports/betting/standard/AFL/AFL-Futures/2014-AFL-Premiership/Winner
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but they ignored the Dorkers
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IF I WAS A GAMBLER ID HAVE SOME MONEY ON THE PIES AT THOSE ODDS. WHOOPS Apologies im not yelling.
in fact if every thing goes well injuries etc my momey is on a syd v coll g/f.
Collingwood will finish 6-10. No chance of flag, 1990, 2010, 2020
2030 would be better in that sequence Mrakov. :pray
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We are gunna finish 9th, lock it in princesses
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IF I WAS A GAMBLER ID HAVE SOME MONEY ON THE PIES AT THOSE ODDS. WHOOPS Apologies im not yelling.
in fact if every thing goes well injuries etc my momey is on a syd v coll g/f.
Collingwood will finish 6-10. No chance of flag, 1990, 2010, 2020
2030 would be better in that sequence Mrakov. :pray
:clapping well spotted, well spotted
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Brett Anderson from Inside Football & Rohan Connolly were on SEN earlier today previewing the season and both have us finishing in the bottom half of the Eight (Anderson said 5th/6th). They said the loss of Maric for 8 weeks was a biggy so the recruiting of Hampson was a clever move by the Tigers. They both rate Miles based on his preseason so far and with the inclusion of Thomas, Rohan liked the fact that Richmond have further bolstered its midfield depth.
By the way, Brett Anderson is predicting Carlton to finish 13th ;D.
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all i know is 14 does not go into 8. reckon at least 14 of the sides realistically think they can make the 8 if things go well for them.
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9 other captains have tipped us to make the Eight this year. Dusty got one vote to win the Brownlow but Cotch didn't :huh.
Hawthorn, Sydney and Fremantle were tipped by every captain to finish in the top eight, along with Geelong (16 votes), Collingwood (12), West Coast (11), North Melbourne (9), Richmond (9), Essendon (7), Port Adelaide (7), Adelaide (2) and Carlton (2).
Collingwood skipper Scott Pendlebury was nominated as the most likely player to take out the Brownlow Medal with four votes, narrowly favoured ahead of Gold Coast's Gary Ablett and Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield with three votes each. Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Sam Mitchell, Jarryd Roughead, Joel Selwood, Dane Swan and Jobe Watson were also named.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-05/captains-bold-call
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i predict we miss the 8
gale leaves us for the AFL
membership drops by 40,000 for 2015
and we take a spud ruckman with our first round draft pick
good times ahead :cheers
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oh yeah, bring it on :birthday
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Just wanted to say before the season starts proper that you have to take your hat off to Hardwick and the whole football department who have turned this great club around. It has to be remembered that only a handful of years ago we were a rabble, in a short space of time the squad has been rebuilt from the ground up using clever targeted recruitment via trading and a number of compromised drafts. Testament to this is that now we have a squad where most of us are having trouble picking our best 22. Go Tigers!!! :clapping
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i predict we miss the 8
gale leaves us for the AFL
membership drops by 40,000 for 2015
and we take a spud ruckman with our first round draft pick
good times ahead :cheers
all the bandwagoners will drop off :clapping
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Yesterday on the bigpond website they had old content back to 2010/11 and to see where we have come from is amazing. We had so many dud players on the list even back then
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i predict we miss the 8
gale leaves us for the AFL
membership drops by 40,000 for 2015
and we take a spud ruckman with our first round draft pick
good times ahead :cheers
all the bandwagoners will drop off :clapping
Yeah doubt it..... we're not Essendon or Melbourne......more likely all the delusional "brightsiders" will still make excuses, pretend eveything's still all hunky dory, abuse the realists for being "too negative" and tell them to "go support another club if they don't like it."
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Just wanted to say before the season starts proper that you have to take your hat off to Hardwick and the whole football department who have turned this great club around. It has to be remembered that only a handful of years ago we were a rabble, in a short space of time the squad has been rebuilt from the ground up using clever targeted recruitment via trading and a number of compromised drafts. Testament to this is that now we have a squad where most of us are having trouble picking our best 22. Go Tigers!!! :clapping
Well said Lozza
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I'd like to see Peggy Sue get into a public war of words with Eddie....think about it....her being a woman, he'll only look like a bully & a scumbag(even moreso than usual).....and if he says anything that can be even remotely misinterpreted, the thought police will be all over him and after what happened last year with Goodes, the do-gooders may well finally force him to resign.
A win for all I say.
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Just wanted to say before the season starts proper that you have to take your hat off to Hardwick and the whole football department who have turned this great club around. It has to be remembered that only a handful of years ago we were a rabble, in a short space of time the squad has been rebuilt from the ground up using clever targeted recruitment via trading and a number of compromised drafts. Testament to this is that now we have a squad where most of us are having trouble picking our best 22. Go Tigers!!! :clapping
Well said Lozza
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I'd like to see Peggy Sue get into a public war of words with Eddie....think about it....her being a woman, he'll only look like a bully & a scumbag(even moreso than usual).....and if he says anything that can be even remotely misinterpreted, the thought police will be all over him and after what happened last year with Goodes, the do-gooders may well finally force him to resign.
A win for all I say.
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I'll keep my hat on. 1 finals appearance in 4 years isn't impressive. Ken Hinkley showed how it's done.
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Ol' ken is certainly impressive.
Would like Oli Wines on our books too pls.
Koshi hoovers shafts for a living but.
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Crawf has us finishing 6th ...
Former Hawthorn champion Shane Crawford believes Fremantle can go one better in 2014
Shane Crawford
Herald Sun
March 08, 2014 7:00PM
HERE’S my 2014 AFL ladder and key points for each team:
1. FREMANTLE
16-18 wins
Pass mark: Only a premiership will do.
2. SYDNEY
14-17 wins
Pass mark: It’s a Grand Final ... or bust.
3. HAWTHORN
14-16 wins
Pass mark: Top four — and maybe even better.
4. NORTH MELBOURNE
12-15 wins
Pass mark: Must win a final.
5. GEELONG
11-13 wins
Pass mark: Top six, that would be another remarkable effort for a team that just doesn’t know the meaning of not being competitive.
6. RICHMOND
11-13 wins
Bottom line: The improvement over the past few years has been strong, but a fair bit of it was undone in a poor half in the elimination final. It’s time for the Tigers to make a stand.
Under pressure: Jack Riewoldt. It’s time he stopped worrying about what people outside the club think about him and realise the only people who count are within the Richmond club. His teammates love playing with him.
One to watch: Shaun Hampson is going to have to step up earlier than expected. With Ivan Maric injured after pre-season surgery, it’s crucial Hampson gets off to a flyer. He is at his best when he has a desperate edge to him. He will need to fire early.
Pass mark: Must win a final.
7. WEST COAST
11-13 wins
Pass mark: Top-eight position.
8. ADELAIDE
11-13 wins
Pass mark: Must win more than 50 per cent of their games, which is better than the 10 wins of 2013.
9. ESSENDON
10-12 wins
Pass mark: A finals berth would make up for last year’s disqualification.
10. COLLINGWOOD
10-12 wins
Pass mark: The Magpies need to win a final to make up for the disappointment of last year.
11. CARLTON
10-12 wins
Pass mark: For Mick, it has to be a finals berth. Perhaps even a finals win.
12. PORT ADELAIDE
8-10 wins
Pass mark: Thirteen wins (like last year) would be a bonus.
13. GOLD COAST
8-10 wins
Pass mark: Double-figure wins for the first time in the club’s short history.
14. WESTERN BULLDOGS
6-8 wins
Pass mark: More than the eight wins achieved last year.
15. BRISBANE LIONS
6-8 wins
Pass mark: The pass mark isn’t about wins and losses. It is to show development in Justin Leppitsch’s first season as coach and to make it a happier place than it was last year.
16. MELBOURNE
5-7 wins
Pass mark: To pass two wins — in the first half of the season.
17. ST KILDA
4-6 wins
Pass mark: To somehow surpass the five wins from last season.
18. GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
4-6 wins
Pass mark: Time to win four or five games, instead of only one like last year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/former-hawthorn-champion-shane-crawford-believes-fremantle-can-go-one-better-in-2014/story-fni5f22o-1226849007739
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Top four is easy to predict except for one
Jake Niall
The Age
March 9, 2014
Sydney, Hawthorn and Fremantle are everyone's box trifecta this year but the fourth estate is having great difficulty in ranking the fourth team of 2014.
Moreover, it's not just the media that is struggling to round out the top four. In their annual market forecasts, the AFL captains named only three teams (besides their own) that would make the grand final. Result: Hawks 10 votes, Sydney 5, Freo 3. That is an extraordinary conformity, in a competition with margins slighter than Josh Bootsma's shoulders.
If you talk to officials in the ''industry'' you'll find similar uniformity about the projected top three and near-universal agreement (outside the relevant clubs) that the Saints, Demons and Greater Western Sydney will fill the bottom three slots, though some are warming to the idea that the third-year Giants will make a significant leap.
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There's a school of thought that the ''Leppa'' Lions will be down in the dungeon, too.
The perception is that the top and bottom trios - the aristocracy and the downtrodden - are predictable, but that everything else is highly volatile. The middle class is broader than ever: it could stretch from fourth to 14th. Ironically, in a season in which ''equalisation'' is the big reform, the playing field itself shapes as unusually equal. The bottom pair of 2013, GWS and the Dees, will be much better - they might win five to seven games each - but still mired in the bottom sixth.
Hawthorn and Sydney should be locks for the top four, barring injuries, and most club folk rate Freo up there. It's quite conceivable that one of the fancied three will fall and miss the final four, but it's impossible to predict which one, since that will be decided by unpredictable variables - the bodies of Luke Hodge/Sam Mitchell/Luke McPharlin/Matthew Pavlich/Kurt Tippett, plus the attitude of Buddy Franklin.
Hawthorn's hunger, which was an issue after the 2008 flag, doesn't appear to be a problem; these days, one measure of ''hunger'' is skinfolds (hungry teams eat or drink less). Unlike the flabby hungover Hawks of '09, the class of 2014 has passed the pre-season pinch test.
The task of guessing a final eight is daunting because 12 to 14 teams can make it. But the greater riddle comes once you've put down the names Sydney, Hawthorn, Fremantle in whatever order. Then comes?
Could it be … Geelong? The Cats were within a kick of putting the Hawthorn people in a padded cell in the 2013 prelim final. They have young talent, they have Hamish McIntosh actually playing, they have the prospect of Tom Hawkins playing fit. They have Joel Selwood and a settled, strong defence.
Every year the Cats are supposed to decline. Like Andrew Demetriou's resignation, eventually this prediction will happen. But this time there are compelling reasons - not just hunches - to justify a downgrade of Geelong's AAA on-field rating.
Joel Corey and Paul Chapman last year weren't what they were but they were still mighty and the ranks of retirees is reaching is a critical mass.
While Geelong is replenishing with impressive youth, injuries have hit in pre-season. Nathan Vardy is gone and Allen Christensen will miss about half the season and the electric Steven Motlop missing the opening two to three games.
So we cannot be confident about Geelong as the fourth team.
Could it be … Essendon? If not for Stephen Dank, peptides and ASADA the Dons would be contenders. They were top two as late as July. They have excellent talls, with Dyson Heppell bringing a classier element to a hitherto B-grade midfield dominated by Jobe Watson. They have a sound defence that will include, hamstrings willing, Michael Hurley. They have wunderkind Joey Daniher. They've added a happy Chapman.
But the case against is bleeding obvious, too: They lost draft picks and trading opportunities, they're still in ASADA limbo and we don't know how this will play on players' minds. They have a problem kicking goals, since most of those talls - besides Daniher - seem more adept in defence. We can't put the house on the Dons, either.
Could it be … Richmond? The Tigers have been rising with each season under Damien Hardwick. They have finals experience. They have a quick and classy midfield, headed by Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio. They have Dustin Martin and Ty Vickery ready to make steps. They have Brandon Ellis and Nick Vlastuin … their depth is greatly enhanced this year.
But we can't trust Richmond. Not yet. The Tigers don't defend when the opposition rolls, as Carlton did in that final. They haven't got an A-grader in defence, despite Alex Rance's gains. There is no big-bodied power forward, since Jack Riewoldt isn't that large.
Could it be … North? The Roos lost so many games by so little. They've added Nick Dal Santo to the mix. They have structure at both ends, their midfield is strong. At their infrequent best they're an attacking, skilful side that looks the top four part. But within that exhilarating team lies the doubt. The loose Roos kept blowing leads for a reason. They don't defend first, they run and stun themselves, like deer in headlights. Brent Harvey and Drew Petrie are old. There is a doubt about this team's mettle.
Could it be … Collingwood? The Pies own the equal of any midfield, headlined by Scott Pendlebury, Dane Swan and Dayne Beams, with Taylor Adams added. Travis Cloke is the game's most imposing forward and few defences can deal with him and Ben Reid. Alas for the Pies, sports science hasn't progressed to the point of cloning Reid and they have relinquished A-graders Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw. They are in quasi-rebuild mode.
Could it be Port Adelaide, which made such improbable progress? Yes, it could and no, probably not. Could it be the Blues? One thinks not. Carlton's list restricts its range from 6th to 13th, methinks. It could be West Coast, which embarrassed many of us last year, when talked up as a flag pick, only to flop, under the weight of injuries and a stale coach.
By this column's reckoning, seven middle-class teams are capable - if all went swimmingly - of snatching a top four spot. We've seldom seen so many applicants for a situation vacant near the top.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/top-four-is-easy-to-predict-except-for-one-20140308-34edj.html#ixzz2vOcg2uXO
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I'll keep my hat on. 1 finals appearance in 4 years isn't impressive. Ken Hinkley showed how it's done.
I'd keep my powder dry on Kenny.
Let's wait another season or 2 before we laud Kenny.
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Wouldn't lock Sydney in myself
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Prediction ? Fun!
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Wouldn't lock Sydney in myself
Agree. If the best 22 stay on the field they will smash it. But as we all know that never happens and injuries will strike and not sure their depth is as good as it has been in the past.
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Top four is easy to predict except for one
Jake Niall
The Age
March 9, 2014
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There is no big-bodied power forward, since Jack Riewoldt isn't that large.
And there we have another one of the famous media-created urban myths. I am very very confident that Wank Niall would class Nick Riewoldt as a big-bodied power forward yet Jack is 2cm taller and only 4kgs lighter than his cousin. We have Riewoldt and Vickery which is structurally more potent and capable than most other clubs, Riewoldt has consistently kicked more goals than any other power forward over the past 4-5 seasons, he is involved in more goal assists, and he is far more dangerous when the ball is on the ground than any of them, yet Wank rolls this out as a major Achilles heel for us. Knobhead.
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Yeah but take all that away and what's left?
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Get Cloke!
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Get Cloke!
GET FRAWLEY
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Get smart. Get fyfe
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Get Dylan Shiels - will be an absolute GUN!
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Sportsfan's guide to the 2014 AFL season
Thursday, March 13, 2014
Source: SportsFan, afl.com.au
Author: Adam Jones
On the eve of the 2014 AFL season, we run the rule over all 18 clubs and predict the premiers, Brownlow Medallist and ladder after 22 rounds.
RICHMOND
Champion Data ranks Richmond's list as fourth-best in the league for quality and their draw as the second-easiest. There's really no conceivable way the Tigers can screw this up. We've got Richmond starting the year on a 5-0 streak. If they top the Hawks in round six the lid won't just be off, it will be blown sky high. We're talking parades down Punt Rd, thousands turning up to training, a surge in members, and yellow-and-black on every street corner in Melbourne. It will be hell.
Win-loss prediction: 17-5
SportsFan's 2014 AFL ladder
1. Sydney
2. Hawthorn
3. Fremantle
4. Richmond
5. North Melbourne
6. West Coast
7. Geelong
8. Essendon
9. Collingwood
10. Port Adelaide
11. Adelaide
12. Gold Coast
13. Carlton
14. Western Bulldogs
15. Melbourne
16. Brisbane
17. Greater Western Sydney
18. St Kilda
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/sportsfans-guide-to-the-2014-afl-season/tabid/91/newsid/125572/default.aspx
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Sportsfan's guide to the 2014 AFL season
Thursday, March 13, 2014
Source: SportsFan, afl.com.au
Author: Adam Jones
On the eve of the 2014 AFL season, we run the rule over all 18 clubs and predict the premiers, Brownlow Medallist and ladder after 22 rounds.
RICHMOND
Champion Data ranks Richmond's list as fourth-best in the league for quality and their draw as the second-easiest. There's really no conceivable way the Tigers can screw this up. We've got Richmond starting the year on a 5-0 streak. If they top the Hawks in round six the lid won't just be off, it will be blown sky high. We're talking parades down Punt Rd, thousands turning up to training, a surge in members, and yellow-and-black on every street corner in Melbourne. It will be hell.
Win-loss prediction: 17-5
SportsFan's 2014 AFL ladder
1. Sydney
2. Hawthorn
3. Fremantle
4. Richmond
5. North Melbourne
6. West Coast
7. Geelong
8. Essendon
9. Collingwood
10. Port Adelaide
11. Adelaide
12. Gold Coast
13. Carlton
14. Western Bulldogs
15. Melbourne
16. Brisbane
17. Greater Western Sydney
18. St Kilda
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/sportsfans-guide-to-the-2014-afl-season/tabid/91/newsid/125572/default.aspx
I'm getting very arroused .
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If we end up 17-5 I'll turkey slap anything and anyone.
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Get Dylan Shiels - will be an absolute GUN!
This, I agree :thumbsup
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Crystal Ball: AFL 2014 Season Preview
By Franc de Borges | March 14, 2014
The big slider?
Richmond. There’s a bizarre sense of inevitability about the Tigers and their unrelenting and overdue march up the ladder that I simply don’t share.
For the side that hasn’t won a final since 2001, it appears as though big crowds and hyperbole are more important ingredients for success than a quality football team. 2013 was their best return in over a decade, finishing the home and away season in fifth spot. While another September appearance is within reach, I don’t think Richmond is any better equipped than the other seven or eight sides in a similar position. Their finals fade-out revealed a soft underbelly that simply can’t be trusted in crunch moments.
That Daniel Jackson won the best and Fairest and Jake King is amongst the best 22 does little to allay concerns surrounding list quality.
The Tigers haven’t made back to back finals series since 1973/74 and will struggle to make the eight.
Final 8:
1. Fremantle
2. Sydney
3. Hawthorn
4. Adelaide
5. Geelong
6. Carlton
7. Collingwood
8. Gold Coast
http://www.themarshalltown.com/zine/2014/03/14/crystal-ball-afl-2014-season-preview/
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I don't get the predictions for us to slide. 15 wins last year and this year we double up against teams like Saints, Lions and Giants. Take the Hawks and Freo wins away and we still make the finals. We need to drop games to teams like Bulldogs and Lions. It's not like when n0rf scraped in on an easy draw then didn't make it on a harder one.
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Franc de Borges=the claw :shh
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I don't get the predictions for us to slide. 15 wins last year and this year we double up against teams like Saints, Lions and Giants. Take the Hawks and Freo wins away and we still make the finals. We need to drop games to teams like Bulldogs and Lions. It's not like when n0rf scraped in on an easy draw then didn't make it on a harder one.
That's why Ive whacked some coin on us making finals and also for top 4. Most of the experts have nfi
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We will just stick it up them!!!!!' :police:
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Franc De Borges is a Carlton BF troll isn't he?
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Claw's Pies lookin good for top four.
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Claw's Pies lookin good for top four.
You took what he said too literally
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he actually meant top four of the bottom eight, but forgot an apostrophe.
pretty obvious, really.
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Fellas, at this stage, I just wanna finish above the Dees.
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Fellas, at this stage, I just wanna finish above the Dees.
just stuff off
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All larfs aside though, the Frockers look ominous.
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why did he hit that snowman? Docks are brilliant.
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Not quite sure but it looks like he was showing his daughter the snowman 'statue' and he got spooked when it came alive.
The first reaction of the ponytailed man is violence. I leaned that at school.
On topic, I got a lot of respect for Ross Lyon.
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Stay on topic thanks
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if he
Not quite sure but it looks like he was showing his daughter the snowman 'statue' and he got spooked when it came alive.
The first reaction of the ponytailed man is violence. I leaned that at school.
On topic, I got a lot of respect for Ross Lyon.
if hed put a little bit more emphasis on actually kicking goals against quality sides he may win a premiership
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Not sure Al. I reckon he was very stiff not to win or with the Aints. I'm tipping the Frockers to win this year too.
Also, just listening to him, he seems a cut above most coaches to me. Something about him.
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no doubt he can coach, regardless of what you think about his game style.
i just think he is too defensive, particularly against good sides.
its one thing to keep the opposition to a beatable score, but you still have kick a winnable score yourself.
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Final Ladder
Freo
Sydney ( premiers )
Hawthorn
West Coast
Geelong
North
Port
Richmond
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Carlton
Collingwood
Adelaide
Bulldogs
Gold Coast
Melbourne
Essendon
Brisbane
GWS
St.Kilda
First coach goneski - Sanderson
Finish higher - Melbourne
Tiges - Dunno , hope we can make finals and win at least one. Not overly confident tho.
Probably shouldn't have revisited this thread coz Phil might scroll to page 2. In which case I owe him a beer but... The old Dice went ok with his predictions.
Tiges finished 8th , North finished 6th. Got 7 out 8 for the top 8. Was one of the few people to have Port in the final 8.
Misjudged Bomber Thompson's influence on Essendon and Adam Simpson's ineptness ( he'll be the first coach sacked next year ;D)
GWS finished one spot above Melbourne :banghead
Sanderson was the first coach sacked :thumbsup
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fair effort dice :cheers :clapping
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Just skimming through appears a lot of folks had Sanderson being the first coach sacked ;D
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Just skimming through appears a lot of folks had Sanderson being the first coach sacked ;D
No need to rain on my parade William ;D
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I'll keep my hat on. 1 finals appearance in 4 years isn't impressive. Ken Hinkley showed how it's done.
I'd keep my powder dry on Kenny.
Let's wait another season or 2 before we laud Kenny.
Hats off to Kenny and co.
They play a sensational brand of football which has lifted the club off the canvas.
:clapping
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I'll keep my hat on. 1 finals appearance in 4 years isn't impressive. Ken Hinkley showed how it's done.
I'd keep my powder dry on Kenny.
Let's wait another season or 2 before we laud Kenny.
Hats off to Kenny and co.
They play a sensational brand of football which has lifted the club off the canvas.
:clapping
Yeah they also have had no noteworthy injuries the last 2 seasons :shh