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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 16, 2008, 10:47:44 AM
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The big 204 cm ruckman who was training with us.
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we seem to be using the rd to pick players for gaps in our list, Browne needs alot of work but he fills a need. so good luck to him as well.
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Inside Football summary
ANDREW BROWNE - Murray Bushrangers
DOB: 7/7/90 Ht: 202cm Wt: 106kg
"There has been a bit of interest in Brownie. The modern day ruckman has got to be pretty athletic and Andy is a bit slow, but he reads the play very well, he plays behind the ball well and takes a pretty good mark. His kicking needs to improve:" - Murray Bushrangers coach Phil Bunn
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03vE_GnRDeQ
(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/83016567.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19303D83A05122D236953E134DD4630C9BA5A5397277B4DC33E)
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Big unit already. From what I have heard is was not picked up in the ND due to his poor endurance. I think this is something that can be corrected. His pace would be the real problem but he may be able to make up for this with his smarts.
Good choice
Stripes
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at 106 kgs hes a very big lad, if he could get down to 100kgs that may help his pace and endurance.
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Andrew Browne
Date of birth: 7/7/90
Height: 205cm
Weight: 105kg
Club: Murray Bushrangers
Video: http://bigpondvideo.com/afl/87938 (http://bigpondvideo.com/afl/87938)
Bio: A competitive ruckman who can also go forward, Browne highlighted his skills with a five-goal performance in round nine of the TAC Cup. He is a strong contested mark and represented Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.
Jason McCartney says: Browne rucked against Nicholas Naitanui when Vic Country played WA and competed really well. He was crucial in that game, giving Country a bailout long target and eventually finished with two goals.
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/2008_Draft_Image_Sets/Andrew_Browne_Draft_246a.jpg)
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=70073
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ANDREW BROWNE - PICK 39
Height: 205cm
Weight: 105kg
Age: 18
From: Murray Bushrangers
Browne is a 204cm ruckman from Mansfield. He played for Murray Bushrangers in the TAC competition in 2008 and also represented Vic Country in the National Championships. He has very good skills for a player of his height and has the necessary attributes to compete as an AFL ruckman in a few years.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=70905
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We already knew but confirmed in the Age (Tuesday) according to Footy Classified.
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Congratulations Andrew Browne!
hope you show the Football world how good you are!
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Tigers tossing up taking a gamble on rookie
Caroline Wilson | March 24, 2009
THE eighteen-year-old son of a Mansfield farmer, Andrew Browne, could prove a shock inclusion into the Richmond side for Thursday night's AFL season opening blockbuster against Carlton.
The Blues, meanwhile, will today upgrade rookie Jeff Garlett onto the senior list in order to select him for the clash with the Tigers.
Richmond has until 5pm today to decide whether or not to promote 205-centimetre ruckman Andrew Browne from the club's rookie list into the senior team to take his place in front of a crowd expected to top 80,000.
Browne looks a strong possibility to be Richmond's only AFL debutant for the highly anticipated clash, in what would be an amazing transition from last year's Murray Bushrangers premiership team.
Browne, who came to the club weighing 105 kilograms but has shed at least four over the pre-season, also played in the ruck for the Victorian country team last season but would have been the first to admit he lacked the fitness for the game at the elite level.
A ferocious debate has been waged at the selection table in recent weeks with Browne — who did not make it into a Tiger NAB Cup or challenge team until week three of the competition — emerging as a genuine contender for the No. 2 ruck position in round-one behind Troy Simmonds and in front of Angus Graham.
As late as last night Terry Wallace and his match committee were said to be undecided but leaning towards Browne ahead of 21-year-old Graham, whose 2008 was severely hampered by a poor pre-season on the back of a broken ankle.
A training session early today was expected to see Wallace and his team make their final decision.
With Kayne Pettifer relegated to the long-term injury list at least until round two, the Tigers still have the space to promote a rookie.
The early pre-season form of former Port Melbourne speedster Robin Nahas has not warranted promotion and the Tigers will not make a decision on Graham Polak at least until Pettifer's return, which could be pushed back depending on how he recovers. Browne was taken as a project player by the Tigers in the rookie draft and it is unlikely he would have been selected at all had the Brisbane Lions not chosen Tasmanian youngster Bart McCulloch with their final draft pick.
The question mark remaining on Browne is his fitness and whether or not he can stand up to the pace of the game. Against that is his solid marking ability, strong body and determination to throw himself into contests.
His performance in the third week of the NAB Challenge against big Saints Steven King and Michael Gardiner won Browne a trip to Carrara 11 days ago where he shared ruck duties with Simmonds and Graham.
Carlton youngster Garlett, who is a cousin of Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin, is a small forward from Perth and is expected to be one of three debutants for the Blues. Fellow rookie Sam Jacobs is likely to play as is draftee Mitch Robinson. Former Demon Chris Johnson is also set to make his Carlton debut.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-tossing-up-taking-a-gamble-on-rookie/2009/03/23/1237656851186.html
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Browne would only be used on the ball for 5-10 minutes each quarter to give Simmo a chop out. If he's the next best after Simmo on form as a ruckman especially tapwork which by all reports he has been then it's a no brainer.
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And dare to dream if he goes all right he will get more game time and Simmo can play as a tall forward target.
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This is great news, as Browne might turn out to be a steal and might force some of the other younger rucks to compete for a spot.
The wrap on him was he was too slow but he did'nt look slow at training, maybe the bad wrap should have been his lack of fitness!
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Good luck to Andrew Browne and well done RFC recruiters to pick him up.
It is funny when one looks at the cards life deals you....if Brisbane did not overhear FJ talk about Bart McCulloch as its next pick at #70 (from memory) and snap him up beforehand at pick 69 - we would not have drafted B. Cousins or A. Browne - both of whom are at this stage going to play for us this Thursday :)
Thanks Brissy
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Interesting to see what the match committee do here ? I think Gus may be the better option but must admit I havent seen Browne play at all so I really dont know ? Im sure they will do the right thing. Just worried I suppose about Browne's lack of fitness as the game goes on ? Time will tell. Can't wait !!!
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Browne is playing. He firstly did ruck practice just with Simmo. Our other rucks didn't join in. Then Browne along with Simmo were part of the squad for Thursday night's game towards the end of training whereas Gus and Putty did marking practice with Monkhurst and Vickery was with the Coburg group.
So all the best to Andrew :clapping
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Browne is playing. He firstly did ruck practice just with Simmo. Our other rucks didn't join in. Then Browne along with Simmo were part of the squad for Thursday night's game towards the end of training whereas Gus and Putty did marking practice with Monkhurst and Vickery was with the Coburg group.
So all the best to Andrew :clapping
thanks mt
will rance play?
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Browne is playing. He firstly did ruck practice just with Simmo. Our other rucks didn't join in. Then Browne along with Simmo were part of the squad for Thursday night's game towards the end of training whereas Gus and Putty did marking practice with Monkhurst and Vickery was with the Coburg group.
So all the best to Andrew :clapping
thanks mt
will rance play?
Not sure blaisee but he's in the final squad.
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Richmond elevates rookie ruckman
RICHMOND’S No.2 ruck spot for the season opener has been snared by 18-year-old elevated rookie Andrew Browne.
Browne is a 205cm ruckman from Mansfield in country Victoria who came to the Tigers as a project player, but has taken just the last two NAB Challenge games to set himself up for the debut of a lifetime.
The Tigers kick the season off against Carlton on Thursday night in a sell-out at the MCG.
The teenager said he was amazed to find himself playing in round one.
“Terry (coach Terry Wallace) mentioned it, but the first time I really knew for sure was when Terry announced it to the group at training,” he told richmondfc.com.au.
“I was pretty excited, but it all happened pretty suddenly, so it took a while for it to sink in.
“Everyone was pretty happy and was congratulating me.
“I thought I’d better ring mum first – I gave her a call after training, and she was more excited than me.”
Browne said his elevation and selection came as a shock.
“I said to some of the coaches that I wasn’t even expecting to play NAB Cup three or four weeks ago, so to have been elevated and to actually be playing round one with the seniors is just incredible.
“I’ve learned so much just in the few months I’ve been here, from people like (assistant coaches) Wayne Campbell and Jade Rawlings, and also from Terry about being competitive and always giving it a good crack.
“I’ve also been working with (senior ruckman) Troy Simmonds – he’s been really good.
“He gave me a few pointers when I first came down to the club and I still work with him every training session.
“Being able to work with someone that you grew up watching is really beneficial.”
While Browne – after just one pre-season in the AFL system – has had some questions hanging over his fitness, his determination and willingness to put his body on the line cannot be doubted.
“We’ve been really pleased with Browny’s progress over the pre-season,” director of coaching Brian Royal told richmondfc.com.au.
“His form in his last two NAB Challenge practice games has been remarkable.
“We couldn’t have been any happier with Browny – his body shape has improved over the short period of time he’s been here. He’s a good young ruckman.”
Dream Team watch – Andrew Browne is rated a $75,300 ruckman in Toyota AFL Dream Team 2009.
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=73661
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Ranga :cheers
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could surprise up 4ward...
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good luck browney, welcome to the big league :gotigers
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Caro said Browne has lost 4kgs over summer since joining us. He was 105kg and there were questions over his fitness but now he's just over 100kg. Still 205cm tall.
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Well done Brown"e"
Great effort from a really quality kid :clapping
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Go big fella, get into mate and leave nothing behind!!!!!!!
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Good luck to the unit, can't wait to see him in action.
Even though it will be a high pressure game at least his ruck opponents are nothing special (well Kreuzer probably will be but at this stage he still has a fair bit of development to go).
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Good luck to the unit, can't wait to see him in action.
Even though it will be a high pressure game at least his ruck opponents are nothing special (well Kreuzer probably will be but at this stage he still has a fair bit of development to go).
I reckon Browne will take on their new ruckman at evry opportunity, Simmo will get Kruz.
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lets hope browne can 1 day get to the standard of another rookie ruckman taken by craig cameron about 7 years ago. A young man taken in the rookie draft by the name of Darren Jolly. CC has form ;)
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Browne is playing. He firstly did ruck practice just with Simmo. Our other rucks didn't join in. Then Browne along with Simmo were part of the squad for Thursday night's game towards the end of training whereas Gus and Putty did marking practice with Monkhurst and Vickery was with the Coburg group.
So all the best to Andrew :clapping
How was Gus' body language, pretty massive hit to his hopes in general.
Well done Andrew. What a performance to make it as a no. 2 ruckman as a 18 year old rookie in your first season. :thumbsup
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How was Gus' body language, pretty massive hit to his hopes in general.
TA, we thought Gus looked a bit down not surprisingly as he walked over with Putty near to where we were sitting. It'll hurt but you'd rather be overlooked for round 1 than a GF side or cop a season ending injury so although it's a test of character for him there are worse things that can happen to you in footy and as the cliche goes there's always next week if he puts his hand up at Coburg on Saturday.
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How was Gus' body language, pretty massive hit to his hopes in general.
TA, we thought Gus looked a bit down not surprisingly as he walked over with Putty near to where we were sitting. It'll hurt but you'd rather be overlooked for round 1 than a GF side or cop a season ending injury so although it's a test of character for him there are worse things that can happen to you in footy and as the cliche goes there's always next week if he puts his hand up at Coburg on Saturday.
Well, he was useless a fortnight ago and so far he has done nothing to suggest he is even remotely up to AFL standard, so really it's bad luck if that upsets him. If he's going to be any good then he will do what it takes to put his hand up otherwise "don't give up your day job". I love what competition for spots does for a team.
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lets hope browne can 1 day get to the standard of another rookie ruckman taken by craig cameron about 7 years ago. A young man taken in the rookie draft by the name of Darren Jolly. CC has form ;)
So does one Francis Jackson....
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How was Gus' body language, pretty massive hit to his hopes in general.
TA, we thought Gus looked a bit down not surprisingly as he walked over with Putty near to where we were sitting. It'll hurt but you'd rather be overlooked for round 1 than a GF side or cop a season ending injury so although it's a test of character for him there are worse things that can happen to you in footy and as the cliche goes there's always next week if he puts his hand up at Coburg on Saturday.
I feel sorry for him but unfortunately for Gus, if there is a better option, then the better option has to be picked.
Could be the making or breaking of him.
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Gus is a shocking footballer
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Well done to BrownEy not it's official. Good luck for tomorrow night. He'll have a 2 inch height advantage over the Blues' ruckmen.
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Congratulations (again) Andrew Browne!
just amazing how he got to this position isn't it?
just fantastic!
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Wallace hails tyro Browne
richmondfc.com.au
By Jennifer Witham Wed 25 March, 2009
RICHMOND coach Terry Wallace believes the sudden rise of young ruckman Andrew Browne is a "great story", with the former Murray Bushranger going from a developing rookie to a round one starter this week.
Browne, 18, was selected by the Tigers with pick 39 in the 2009 NAB AFL Rookie Draft last December and thrown an opportunity with his new side in week three of the NAB Challenge series.
The poise and composure the ruckman showed in his two summer hit-outs prompted Richmond to elevate him to senior status this week, and for the coaching staff to name him in the team to face Carlton on Thursday night at the MCG.
"It's a great story for a young player who two or three weeks ago wasn't in our consideration or on our radar for a round one selection," Wallace said on the eve of the season opener.
"We picked him up later in the rookie draft as a ruckman and he got an opportunity in round three of the NAB Cup when we played all our young players.
"It wasn't that he had done anything particularly special up until that stage. He had been going along adequately.
"He performed really well in NAB three so we took him along to NAB four and he did a good job in that game as well, so we've decided to give him the opportunity to play."
Wallace said he doesn't expect his players to be overawed by the sell-out crowd and big stage mentality surrounding Thursday night's game, which will now be broadcast live into Melbourne on Channel 10.
"We've had a few of these. We had a dress rehearsal last year with a big game and a big build up, but this has been bigger again," he said.
"We expected the huge crowd, we expected the massive build-up and it hasn't let us down from that aspect.
"We're just hoping that both sides put on a great display for the people. It's wonderful to see the people of Victoria come out and support what's a fantastic game and we're really looking forward to it."
He also said the Tigers are expecting Carlton spearhead Brendan Fevola to play despite the bruised heel he picked up in the Blues' final practice match in Bunbury.
"With the type of injury he's got, you can jab them and put some local in," he said.
"We would expect him to play. He hasn't had the perfect build-up in relation to being able to train for the last week and a half fully, but good players overcome these things."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/73726/default.aspx
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I hope he cleans up a couple of blues, thatll make us proud of him.
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Good luck to AB. Terry is going into this game with a raw kid and a dinasour if it works he will be congratulated, if we lose he will be burnt by the masses. I just hope AB plays a cracker which would put immense pressure on Putt, Vickery, Gus and Pattison (whom I don't see as a genuine ruckman), however it should make those 4 work even harder to crack it in the team.
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Good luck to Jaffa. Hope he does well. :thumbsup
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20P-T/Browne_246a.jpg)
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What did we all think of BrownE?
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What did we all think of BrownE?
First quarter was absolutely terrible in every way. Wasn't winning hitouts, was basically invisible and didn't contest when the ball hit the ground, let his opponent win the ball easily when he could have created a 50-50, couldn't catch, perpetually off balance and fumbling (certainly not alone).
Second quarter he started to look like he was settling a bit.
By that time it was 12:30 and I had to be up at 5:30 so I didn't watch Q3 and Q4.
I'm hoping to hear that he continued to play better, but I struggle to understand how the match committee could think he was ready for this game ???
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I'm hoping to hear that he continued to play better, but I struggle to understand how the match committee could think he was ready for this game ???
I think it's more to do with the fact that he was better than any alternative
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I think it's more to do with the fact that he was better than any alternative
Thats a pretty damning indictment on Putt and Graham, who I confess I havent seen play for the 'burgers
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Not a great deal, looked to suffer from nerves or inexperience and IMO played exactly as TBJ said, the fumbles were the most frustrating part.
In the second half I think he played a darn sight better, but as it was in comparison to his first half that is not saying much.
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I thought he was one of the only shining lights, got in and mixed it for a few touches.
Wasn't bad for his first game.
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I think it's more to do with the fact that he was better than any alternative
Thats a pretty damning indictment on Putt and Graham, who I confess I havent seen play for the 'burgers
Graham yes, Putt not so much
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Well it says that we are failing to coach our other bigmen properly & concerns me greatly when he gets a game before other ruckmen
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Listen to the wolves circling! ::) TW had a crap night but he is not responsible for every $#%^& mistake we made on the field.
Browne was overlooked by every other club but competed well against the liked of King and Gardiner in the pre-season so was given a chance. I thought he was better than Simmonds who was a discrace last night. I watched him tap down to our players but their midfield swapped ours afterwards. Is that Brownes fault? Browne was also good at ground level with good kicking and handballing skills.
I think he will prove to be a real asset in the future but if he does that won't be because TW recruited or coached him well now will it...lets keep some perpective please. TW was ordinary last night but the bushfies, 9/11 and sinking of the titanic were not his fault OK! :P
Stripes
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Browne was overlooked by every other club but competed well against the liked of King and Gardiner in the pre-season so was given a chance. I thought he was better than Simmonds who was a discrace last night. I watched him tap down to our players but their midfield swapped ours afterwards.
Stripes
I agree Stripes. I dont get what it is with Simmonds ruck work. Why does he jump early or not at all. He never really seems to go for a jump and tap. Has this always been his way ??. Is he being told to do this ??
I hope the other young guys are not being tought to do this as to me its just a sign that he cant get up and win a tapout.
As far as Browne goes, 18 years old, MCG. 85,000, rookie elevated. What more would you expect in a ruckman that normally take years to develop. He did ok.
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l was stating that if Browne is getting a game before our other Ruckmen that we are failing somewhere in the development of the other Ruckmen,
l didnot state anywhere that Browne didnot play a good game & anything about his talent
Yes l agree Simmonds had a night to forget he was aweful
did Simmonds have a full preseason ?
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did Simmonds have a full preseason ?
Yes he did
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I agree Stripes. I dont get what it is with Simmonds ruck work. Why does he jump early or not at all. He never really seems to go for a jump and tap. Has this always been his way ??. Is he being told to do this ??
I think it's because he is so short for a ruckman. He tries to jump early to get a ride on his opponent to the ball or to at least try to nullify his opponents run at the ball.
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Listen to the wolves circling! ::) TW had a crap night but he is not responsible for every $#%^& mistake we made on the field.
Browne was overlooked by every other club but competed well against the liked of King and Gardiner in the pre-season so was given a chance. I thought he was better than Simmonds who was a discrace last night. I watched him tap down to our players but their midfield swapped ours afterwards. Is that Brownes fault? Browne was also good at ground level with good kicking and handballing skills.
I think he will prove to be a real asset in the future but if he does that won't be because TW recruited or coached him well now will it...lets keep some perpective please. TW was ordinary last night but the bushfies, 9/11 and sinking of the titanic were not his fault OK! :P
Stripes
Even if TW was the skipper of the titanic you would say he did a good job.
BORING
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I agree Stripes. I dont get what it is with Simmonds ruck work. Why does he jump early or not at all. He never really seems to go for a jump and tap. Has this always been his way ??. Is he being told to do this ??
I think it's because he is so short for a ruckman. He tries to jump early to get a ride on his opponent to the ball or to at least try to nullify his opponents run at the ball.
Infamy is right. The large circle restricting ruckmen run-ups favours taller 200+cm ruckmen so Simmo being "only" 197cm tall jumps early to try and nullify the ruck contest and give our mids a better chance. He's been doing it for a few years now. The one thing Browne has in his favour even though he is young and inexperienced is that he is very tall (205cm) and big (101kgs). The type of tall ruckman that we've lacked.
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Height 205cm
Weight 105kg
DOB 07-07-1990
Debut 2009
The guy is pretty big.. any news how good he is doing ? is he good ?
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Is that good compared to our other rucks or compared to all the other teams rucks?
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Is that good compared to our other rucks or compared to all the other teams rucks?
What ruck in our team are you trying to compare him too and against other rucks in the competition he has a long way to go apparently.
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Browne not ready yet but would rather have him than Gus any day.
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Browne not ready yet but would rather have him than Gus any day.
If not now then when is he ready???
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Browne not ready yet but would rather have him than Gus any day.
If not now then when is he ready???
He's only in his 2nd year FFS
Shouldn't be expected to play a major role for another 2-3 years.
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Browne not ready yet but would rather have him than Gus any day.
If not now then when is he ready???
He's only in his 2nd year FFS
Shouldn't be expected to play a major role for another 2-3 years.
Big call Inf FFS, when are our players going to ever come on mate, really, we seem to try and develop players more then any club. Why can't we actually draft players that are AFL ready??? Every other club seems to do it regularly, we don't, we always have developing players that never actually make it.
Acid on time, who else have we got???? This guy and Gus were are our apparent future, when the hell is this future coming please????
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Browne not ready yet but would rather have him than Gus any day.
If not now then when is he ready???
He's only in his 2nd year FFS
Shouldn't be expected to play a major role for another 2-3 years.
Big call Inf FFS, when are our players going to ever come on mate, really, we seem to try and develop players more then any club. Why can't we actually draft players that are AFL ready??? Every other club seems to do it regularly, we don't, we always have developing players that never actually make it.
Acid on time, who else have we got???? This guy and Gus were are our apparent future, when the hell is this future coming please????
It's not a big call at all. The kid's a rookie list ruckman for Geez sake. He's miles ahead of schedule. To critisise the club for not developing players quick enough or for not drafting AFL ready players is just ridiculous. We are forced to play kids early before they have been developed properly, it's been one of our biggest problems, yet some on here think there is some magical voodoo that should make our 19-20 year olds to be gun players in our side without any support from more senior bodies.
I don't know how this doesn't get through some of your thick skulls
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Agree about the lack of developing properly WAT, but recruiting more ready made players.?
Considering between 80 odd players are drafted every year, very few are actually ready made footballers.
This year we seem to have, at this stage anyway, found two. Can't ask for much better than that. How many others drafted last year are playing regularly? 6-7?
Also just because they are ready to go straight away, doesn't mean they end up better players than those are not.
I think it's reasonable to not expect any real contribution from Browne for another 2 years, but is it unreasonable to expect to see a bit more from him at Coburg at the moment?
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Saw Browne play in a practice match at Carrara vs Brisbane pre-season 2009 - for a first year, 18 year old 205cm ruckman he was quite good. Showed a lot of promise - was keen to get around the ground and throw his bulk around, got a bit of possession and made his presence felt. I would love to have seen him come on quicker to fill the yawning chasm we have in this area but as Infamy says - we have to give him time. He has shown enough, early enough, to suggest that he has the potential to make it so it would be very remiss of the club to let hem go now. I have a feeling they are intentionally letting him grow in a lower level so that he develops a superior attitude that he will need when he comes up against the older more experienced senior ruckmen. Leave him alone for the present - he is not the problem but he could very conceivably be a part of the solution.
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Browne not ready yet but would rather have him than Gus any day.
If not now then when is he ready???
He's only in his 2nd year FFS
Shouldn't be expected to play a major role for another 2-3 years.
Big call Inf FFS, when are our players going to ever come on mate, really, we seem to try and develop players more then any club. Why can't we actually draft players that are AFL ready??? Every other club seems to do it regularly, we don't, we always have developing players that never actually make it.
Acid on time, who else have we got???? This guy and Gus were are our apparent future, when the hell is this future coming please????
It's not a big call at all. The kid's a rookie list ruckman for Geez sake. He's miles ahead of schedule. To critisise the club for not developing players quick enough or for not drafting AFL ready players is just ridiculous. We are forced to play kids early before they have been developed properly, it's been one of our biggest problems, yet some on here think there is some magical voodoo that should make our 19-20 year olds to be gun players in our side without any support from more senior bodies.
I don't know how this doesn't get through some of your thick skulls
Mate, I am not having a crack at the club re developing players, I am more frustrated I think with how long our players seem to take developing than other clubs.
I also do not have a thick skull thank you, you seem very worked up today perhaps you should go and get laid, I am off out to dinner soon and then I might do the same... :thumbsup ;D
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That's the thing though, we don't take longer to develop our players, it just seems that it does because we player our kids so soon and rely on them to carry the team. Other sides let their kids develop at lower levels and when they do play have older mature bodies to do the bulk of the work.
To think a rookie listed ruckman in his 2nd year is developing slowly because he hasn't been playing AFL regularly is flat out stupidity.
Granted our lack of development staff has hindered our development of players in the past, however we haven't had a chance to see the results of our increased expenditure in these areas yet.
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Browne has another 5 years til he hits his peak age.
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The Big Fella, played well today and was up against Roughhead from the Bulldogs who is rated pretty highly.
I think he is going ok, we are just in that situation where we become so impatient due to the quality of our list.
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all good points,seems to get lost on most just how long rucks take to come on, Jamar, Mitch clark...when were they drafted again and Jolly was ordianry for some time before he hit his straps...yet we are impatient after 18mths :o...watching this unit train he looks to have good skills and I agree about leaving him build confidence at VFL, nowhere to hide at afl level for the big fellas
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all good points,seems to get lost on most just how long rucks take to come on, Jamar, Mitch clark...when were they drafted again and Jolly was ordianry for some time before he hit his straps...yet we are impatient after 18mths :o...watching this unit train he looks to have good skills and I agree about leaving him build confidence at VFL, nowhere to hide at afl level for the big fellas
Dean Cox anyone? Took 5 years to get going. Bag Gus, leave Browne alone for a couple of years - he may or may not make it. He's big enough.
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I like this kid
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I'm not 100% sure but it would have to be the worst 1st 2 games I've seen from any player ever.
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For a rookie drafted ruckman who only turned 20 a week ago, he wouldn't have got selected in a senior side for another club for about another 2 years. You idiots writing him off fail at life.
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Unfortunately for Browne he's played twice when we just haven't turned up.
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If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way.
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all.
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure.
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I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
Because none of our ruckmen are really ready to take on someone like Jolly. Browne will learn a lot from yesterday.
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I think Vickery is more advanced than Browne. Same age but atleast Vickery tries to get the ball sometimes.
I know vickery isn't setting the world on fire but if I had to choose from either I think vickery is ahead by alot.
I was expecting alittle more from Browne after what some of you posters were saying that he was showing good form in the VFL. But I seen his first 2 games and I think he's no way near ready to play AFL at the moment and from what we have seen we should persist with Vickery ahead of Browne.
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If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way.
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all.
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure.
We played against Collingwood who don't turn the ball over easily, utilize every bit of space on the ground.
Find any ruckman that's had a good game against Collingwood this year. Let alone a 20 year old 2nd game rookie...
When your avg age is about 19 not every player will be ready but injuries suspensions and players needing a rest you have to reward the right players. Ready or not.
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If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way.
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all.
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure.
Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play
I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective
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If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way.
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all.
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure.
Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play
I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective
i agreed with you for the most part in regards to Rance and your debate with Jackstar. But I don't know why you must resort to calling me a fool you sound just like Jackstar when you resort to personal jibes whilst using no fact in your assessment of a player.
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have to give Browne more match time.
we did lose by 82 points, it was his 2nd match, let him play!
he has not played since Round 1, 2009 when we lost by 83 points.
when he plays his 84th match we might win at his rate!
:rollin
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Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play
I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective you fool
i agreed with you for the most part in regards to Rance and your debate with Jackstar. But I don't know why you must resort to calling me a fool you sound just like Jackstar when you resort to personal jibes whilst using no fact in your assessment of a player.
Browne has been regularly in the bests at Coburg and deserved his selection - Fact
Vickery has been in the Richmond side for the last 5 weeks and deserved to be dropped - Fact
Graham has been playing injured - Fact
Simmonds has retired - Fact
We have no other players to play ruck - Fact
How many facts do you want in one bloody post?
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Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play
I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective you fool
i agreed with you for the most part in regards to Rance and your debate with Jackstar. But I don't know why you must resort to calling me a fool you sound just like Jackstar when you resort to personal jibes whilst using no fact in your assessment of a player.
Browne has been regularly in the bests at Coburg and deserved his selection - Fact
Vickery has been in the Richmond side for the last 5 weeks and deserved to be dropped - Fact
Graham has been playing injured - Fact
Simmonds has retired - Fact
We have no other players to play ruck - Fact
How many facts do you want in one bloody post?
is this an attempt at apologizing to me for name calling?
If it is well thankyou. I accept your apology for calling me a fool for having an opinion on the worst ruck prospect I have ever seen at Punt rd.
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If anything I think it just reinforces my original statement
You said I resort to personal jibes without using facts to back up my assessment
Well I had plenty of facts in my post and now you've gone on to prove my point of you being a fool by making another ridiculous statement on a developing junior ruckman.
Perhaps you should go back and read some of the comments of Angus Graham as a young developing ruckman and consider how much humble pie they've had to eat this year now he's reached the age and physical development required for an AFL senior ruckman.
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Give Browne time, take note of Collingwoods team yesterday against us it had alot of former rookies playing that have turned out good footballers
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Just to compare, in Darren Jolly's first ever game he managed 0 kicks, 0 handballs, 0 marks, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 0 behinds and 4 hitouts in a winning side. His 2nd match wasn't much better with 0 kicks, 2 handballs, 0 marks, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 0 behinds and 6 hitouts in another winning side.
He ended up playing 4 games that year, 3 of them were in winning sides for averages of 1.25 kicks, 1.25 handballs, 0.5 marks, 3.5 hitouts and 0 goals
In his 2nd season where he played 18 games he averaged 4.7 disposals and 5.5 hitouts per game.
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This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.
He has a body like a peanut,FFS!
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This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.
He has a body like a peanut,FFS!
He was actually quite overweight when we picked him up and has improved massively in that area
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This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.
He has a body like a peanut,FFS!
Didnt you see Relton Roberts earlier this year, just a picture of fitness
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Ty Esler was the worst ruckman I have ever seen play at this club. Patience is required. We are not going to be a top side until we have a good ruckman. I agree ruckman take a while to develop. Give him more game time this year.
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Two beans in a pod
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This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.
He has a body like a peanut,FFS!
Didnt you see Relton Roberts earlier this year, just a picture of fitness
there was something seriously odd about the physique of Browne. Yes i know give him time and all that but he doesnt even look like being a ruckman at this level.
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how old is he?
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Two beans in a pod
i think you mean two peas in a pod
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well, what do beans come in then jack?
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I didn't see anything in Browne that fills me with hope at all.
Anyway why must we put up with crap players just because they are tall.
There has already been questions on his physique so there is already a question about his commitment to succeed.
You've got to be kidding me. Unless you are a freak of nature and are a star in the making you might get away with having a body like his but you must question a guy that is already 20 and he looks like he does.
He is slow.
He is unfit.
He can't read the play.
He is a red head.
He can't play.
You don't pick someone just because they are 200 cm tall!!
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I didn't see anything in Browne that fills me with hope at all.
Anyway why must we put up with crap players just because they are tall.
There has already been questions on his physique so there is already a question about his commitment to succeed.
You've got to be kidding me. Unless you are a freak of nature and are a star in the making you might get away with having a body like his but you must question a guy that is already 20 and he looks like he does.
He is slow.
He is unfit.
He can't read the play.
He is a red head.
He can't play.
You don't pick someone just because they are 200 cm tall!!
Good to see you completly avoid all the points I raised earlier and just start laying into a young player again
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Fair enough Infamy,however,he still has a body like a peanut,,,,@ this early stage :shh
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I didn't see anything in Browne that fills me with hope at all.
Anyway why must we put up with crap players just because they are tall.
There has already been questions on his physique so there is already a question about his commitment to succeed.
You've got to be kidding me. Unless you are a freak of nature and are a star in the making you might get away with having a body like his but you must question a guy that is already 20 and he looks like he does.
He is slow.
He is unfit.
He can't read the play.
He is a red head.
He can't play.
You don't pick someone just because they are 200 cm tall!!
Good to see you completly avoid all the points I raised earlier and just start laying into a young player again
and what are the stats in his last 2 games?
IMO don't play him until he is ready.
Fact is that he isn't ready.
Now Infamy tell me why he is ready to play. Show me that FACTS that tell us why he is ready.
This is the arguement really isn't it. I don't think he is ready to play in the senior team for all the reasons I just mentioned. You think he is ready but have failed to convince me why?
Fact....
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His stats are better than Darren Jolly's first two games
The fact he's been BOG for Coburg and in the bests for Coburg regularly, if not every week show that he's earnt his spot
What else can he do?
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His stats are better than Darren Jolly's first two games
The fact he's been BOG for Coburg and in the bests for Coburg regularly, if not every week show that he's earnt his spot
What else can he do?
you will probably find Richard Lounder and Ty Eslers first 2 game stats are also better than Darren Jolly's so not sure what your point is.
With all due respect i find your posts lately a tad stail so stop trying to steal No 1 OER tool tag off WA Tiger and lift your game
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I think his point is that it's not real bright to judge a ruckman on one or two performances early in their career, one way or the other.
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I didn't see anything in Browne that fills me with hope at all.
Anyway why must we put up with crap players just because they are tall.
There has already been questions on his physique so there is already a question about his commitment to succeed.
You've got to be kidding me. Unless you are a freak of nature and are a star in the making you might get away with having a body like his but you must question a guy that is already 20 and he looks like he does.
He is slow.
He is unfit.
He can't read the play.
He is a red head.
He can't play.
You don't pick someone just because they are 200 cm tall!!
Good to see you completly avoid all the points I raised earlier and just start laying into a young player again
I only posted an opinion on one young ruck purely on his first two games.
It's a fact he isn't ready. It's a fact that Darren Jolly probably wasn't ready when he played his first two games you mentioned.
I'm waiting Mr Infamy.......Apologise!
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Infamy is a goose, forget him
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LMAO at the chicken littles after a loss, suck it up princesses plenty more pain to come
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I didn't see anything in Browne that fills me with hope at all.
Anyway why must we put up with crap players just because they are tall.
There has already been questions on his physique so there is already a question about his commitment to succeed.
You've got to be kidding me. Unless you are a freak of nature and are a star in the making you might get away with having a body like his but you must question a guy that is already 20 and he looks like he does.
He is slow.
He is unfit.
He can't read the play.
He is a red head.
He can't play.
You don't pick someone just because they are 200 cm tall!!
Good to see you completly avoid all the points I raised earlier and just start laying into a young player again
I only posted an opinion on one young ruck purely on his first two games.
It's a fact he isn't ready. It's a fact that Darren Jolly probably wasn't ready when he played his first two games you mentioned.
I'm waiting Mr Infamy.......Apologise!
you got more chance of getting a lap dance from Moi than Infamy apologising.
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Enough with the insults and petty sniping
Stick to the topic :banghead
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runs like a sausage.
give him time, very very raw
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His stats are better than Darren Jolly's first two games
The fact he's been BOG for Coburg and in the bests for Coburg regularly, if not every week show that he's earnt his spot
What else can he do?
Good logical well thought out post.
Pity you are such a dick about Jack.
:lol
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Actually what is funny here is that BrownE has played 2 games with limited game time and people are writing him off
Gus Graham is currently in his what 4th year ??? and is finally playing (bar the last 2 weeks) consistent, strong footy..... it takes more time for the big ruckman to develop
Give the bloke a chance - he would have learnt a helluva lot on Saturday against a really good opponent in Jolly and he should take note of the way Brown uses his big solid body to stand his ground
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Actually what is funny here is that BrownE has played 2 games with limited game time and people are writing him off
Very very funny WP. At his very young age (for a football big man) he has shown plenty of developing ability at the next level down. With another year under Lade and a dozen or more games under his belt then maybe we can start to form a credible opinion but until then..............what was it being discussed on another thread? Something about 'internet nuffers'?
And fwiw, I still strongly believe he will become a much better player than Graham.
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His stats are better than Darren Jolly's first two games
The fact he's been BOG for Coburg and in the bests for Coburg regularly, if not every week show that he's earnt his spot
What else can he do?
Are we talking about the same Browne who was elevated prematurely early last year to cover injuries? The same Browne that everyone has been itching to see in the ones for a large part of this? The same Browne who now everyone has decided to lambast after his first senior game in a year and a half? I am with you infamy, one swallow does not make a spring, give him a few games in a row and see how it pans out!
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Proper 1950s ruckman
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The only problem I see is that he's a similar ruck type to Angus Graham, you can have one of them in your side, but not two
With Vickery's form drop and Simmonds retirement, we have no one else to play so we need to have both of them for now
Hopefully we can pick up another mobile ruck type with one of our picks in the upcoming draft
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Can I please have a list of who hates who as I am getting so confused.
List should include players with matching OER posters. It should also include OER posters with matching OER posters they hate.
I might then understand some of these threads.
As for Browne - Since when did any ruckman look good at 19 or 20 years old that wasnt picked in the top 10 of draft. They all take time and some of them can take up to 5 years.
I do however agree that once developed he would be a similar type to Gus which may be a problem, who knows is far too early to tell. Let them play and grow, thats what this year is about from day one.
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The only problem I see is that he's a similar ruck type to Angus Graham, you can have one of them in your side, but not two
With Vickery's form drop and Simmonds retirement, we have no one else to play so we need to have both of them for now
Hopefully we can pick up another mobile ruck type with one of our picks in the upcoming draft
we should do what we should have done last draft/rookie draft and that is get a 25-26 yo solid seasoned ruckman from the VFL/SANFL/WAFL and let them do what they wanted simmonds to do and that is hold the fort without putting undue stress on Vickery.
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Actually what is funny here is that BrownE has played 2 games with limited game time and people are writing him off
Dunno about that but he definitely has the body of an inbred mountain boy.
(http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/images/NWalkerNwd.JPG)
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Sounds too Trent knobel like
The only problem I see is that he's a similar ruck type to Angus Graham, you can have one of them in your side, but not two
With Vickery's form drop and Simmonds retirement, we have no one else to play so we need to have both of them for now
Hopefully we can pick up another mobile ruck type with one of our picks in the upcoming draft
we should do what we should have done last draft/rookie draft and that is get a 25-26 yo solid seasoned ruckman from the VFL/SANFL/WAFL and let them do what they wanted simmonds to do and that is hold the fort without putting undue stress on Vickery.
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Enough with the insults and petty sniping
Stick to the topic :banghead
Bump.
Posts have been snipped as well!
Stick to the topic!
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So we have agreed then? We give him a third game and that is plenty to show what he has got otherwise he's gone
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I'm sorry OER but I fail to understand your stance on this. You have removed my posts expressing my opinions and I am called a fool and an oxygen theif.
I have done nothing wrong but I do feel that I deserve an apology. I checked the posts and have found none. I checked my inbox and found none.
Where is my apology?
There's a 'report to moderator' button. It makes 'offending' posts easier for us mods to find and make judgement on when we logon than wading through a whole multipage thread. In any case I've now deleted as far as I can see the two instances of namecalling earlier in the thread.
This thread is about discussing Andrew Browne. It's not fair on other posters who don't want to read two posters bickering. There are other means to deal with personal disputes - either via PM or contacting the mods. That's why the irrelevant posts to this topic were removed past WP's initial 'back to the topic' warning.
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Sounds too Trent knobel like
not at all, im sure there is 1 ruckman who has a bit of size/mongrel and athleticism running around in a lesser league. Shape him up and use him and Gus as a foil until vickery is ready.
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I have no prolem with playing him for a few games, Browney has been winning in the twos and we need to see if he can take that next step this year.
He wasnt as mobile this week and maybe he should just tag the opposistion ruckman at this stage to learn where to run and to see how much running is involved in the ones.
If he cant step up, it will show and he should be moved on.
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Well done to Andrew Browne who showed a fair bit of improvement in only his 3rd game of AFL football
1 kick & 7 handballs @ 100% disposal efficiency with 3 contested, 2 marks (1 contested), 16 hitouts, 1 goal, 1 tackle, 1 clearance & 2 clangers (2 frees against)
Considering Angus Graham had
4 kicks, 6 handballs @ 80% disposal efficiency with 4 contested, 0 marks, 14 hitouts, 0 goals, 2 tackels, 3 clearances, & 1 clanger
I'd say he did a pretty decent job for such a young kid, which is exactly why you don't write off a player after 2 games of AFL football
I think Mr Tigra owes Andrew Browne an apology ;)
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was instrumental in the win, contested ea ball up like it was his last..I can see he and Gus soon become the most feared ruck combination this league has seen since Neil Balme and Michael Green
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Settle bo, they've got a fair to go still.
I hope your right though.
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How funny did it look singing the song in the rooms with Browne standing next to Hicks in the middle!! :lol
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Browny is only in his second year dont forget, he is still developing his body and will get bigger in the body still.
He has had a fantastic year at Coburg and is a real competitor. He has some toughness in him also which i really like.
He will continue to improve and should play for the rest of the year.
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I thought Brownie was good today and a couple of times in tight clearances he dished out quickfire handballs to team mates in good position to attack. I think his reflexes are better than Gus's already.
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Mark & Goal LOL awesome stuff
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was instrumental in the win, contested ea ball up like it was his last..I can see he and Gus soon become the most feared ruck combination this league has seen since Neil Balme and Michael Green
Graham and Browne both from the rookie draft. top 10 draft pick Vickery might end up the best of the lot long term. all under 23.
we are need to draft another one or two ruckman as back up to the list.
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Positives:
Contested well in the ruck using his big frame to hold his position with some nice tap downs.
I thought his skills below his knees were quite good yesterday for a 200cm big ruckman.
The shanked kick that still crept in for a goal ;D
Negatives:
Still needs to work on his fitness (speed and agility) so he can contest more in non-rucking contests and not get caught 20m off his man. Looked slow and couldn't keep up with his man at times on transition particularly in the first half.
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Negatives:
Still needs to work on his fitness (speed and agility) so he can contest more in non-rucking contests and not get caught 20m off his man. Looked slow and couldn't keep up with his man at times on transition particularly in the first half.
I think part of that is the step up from VFL to AFL - it is massive. Hicks had the same problem - it is like they are out of sinc with regard to the speed of the game
It will take time but I think we got glimpes yesterday with BrownE that there is a lot to work with
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Negatives:
Still needs to work on his fitness (speed and agility) so he can contest more in non-rucking contests and not get caught 20m off his man. Looked slow and couldn't keep up with his man at times on transition particularly in the first half.
I think part of that is the step up from VFL to AFL - it is massive. Hicks had the same problem - it is like they are out of sinc with regard to the speed of the game
It will take time but I think we got glimpes yesterday with BrownE that there is a lot to work with
Oh no doubt WP there's a fair bit to work with. I'm not writing BrownE off as a 20-year old 205cm ruckmen often are big lumbering lugs at that age. He's still a baby in footy terms for a ruckman as they don't hit their peak until their mid-late 20s. Look at Sandilands and Jamar when they were Browne's age. All they did was tapwork. I was just stating what I believe BrownE needs to work on over preseason and the next few years to become an AFL standard ruckman.
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Well done to Andrew Browne who showed a fair bit of improvement in only his 3rd game of AFL football
1 kick & 7 handballs @ 100% disposal efficiency with 3 contested, 2 marks (1 contested), 16 hitouts, 1 goal, 1 tackle, 1 clearance & 2 clangers (2 frees against)
Considering Angus Graham had
4 kicks, 6 handballs @ 80% disposal efficiency with 4 contested, 0 marks, 14 hitouts, 0 goals, 2 tackels, 3 clearances, & 1 clanger
I'd say he did a pretty decent job for such a young kid, which is exactly why you don't write off a player after 2 games of AFL football
I think Mr Tigra owes Andrew Browne an apology ;)
When I meet him Infamy I will apologise.
If we ever meet, will you apologise to me then.
I still don't think he's ready yet. But he had an ok game. I was wrapped for him when he kicked the goal. The thought that crossed my mind though was that he reminded me of a Mark Blake @ Geelong.
Is that a good thing?
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Well done to Andrew Browne who showed a fair bit of improvement in only his 3rd game of AFL football
1 kick & 7 handballs @ 100% disposal efficiency with 3 contested, 2 marks (1 contested), 16 hitouts, 1 goal, 1 tackle, 1 clearance & 2 clangers (2 frees against)
Considering Angus Graham had
4 kicks, 6 handballs @ 80% disposal efficiency with 4 contested, 0 marks, 14 hitouts, 0 goals, 2 tackels, 3 clearances, & 1 clanger
I'd say he did a pretty decent job for such a young kid, which is exactly why you don't write off a player after 2 games of AFL football
I think Mr Tigra owes Andrew Browne an apology ;)
When I meet him Infamy I will apologise.
If we ever meet, will you apologise to me then.
I still don't think he's ready yet. But he had an ok game. I was wrapped for him when he kicked the goal. The thought that crossed my mind though was that he reminded me of a Mark Blake @ Geelong.
Is that a good thing?
blake has no ticker nor character
browne does
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Well done to Andrew Browne who showed a fair bit of improvement in only his 3rd game of AFL football
1 kick & 7 handballs @ 100% disposal efficiency with 3 contested, 2 marks (1 contested), 16 hitouts, 1 goal, 1 tackle, 1 clearance & 2 clangers (2 frees against)
Considering Angus Graham had
4 kicks, 6 handballs @ 80% disposal efficiency with 4 contested, 0 marks, 14 hitouts, 0 goals, 2 tackels, 3 clearances, & 1 clanger
I'd say he did a pretty decent job for such a young kid, which is exactly why you don't write off a player after 2 games of AFL football
I think Mr Tigra owes Andrew Browne an apology ;)
When I meet him Infamy I will apologise.
If we ever meet, will you apologise to me then.
I still don't think he's ready yet. But he had an ok game. I was wrapped for him when he kicked the goal. The thought that crossed my mind though was that he reminded me of a Mark Blake @ Geelong.
Is that a good thing?
blake has no ticker nor character
browne does
usually when a ruckman moves forward and kicks a goal it's what is expected from a ruckmans good work.
But when you laugh at your ruckman when he kick a goal it reminds me of Mark Blake and the Geelong supporters.
Be honest, was I the only one Suprised and laughing?
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Be honest, was I the only one Suprised and laughing?
I wasn't surprised and I was celebrating, not laughing Mr T. I have said a number of times on here that I believe BrownE will quickly become our #1 ruckman over Graham and am more firmly convinced of that than ever before. He was much better this week than last in picking up the tempo and contesting (both in the air and on the ground) and even though he has a long long way to go, I am comfortable with what I have seen already.
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Young Tigers ruckman Andrew Browne added some comedy in the second term when the umpire signalled in the wrong direction for a free kick.
Browne took the umpire's lead and shaped to kick in the wrong direction.
"He is a guy who gives everything he has got - he is not overly blessed with ability, but he gives everything he has got and he puts his best foot forward every week," Hardwick said of Browne.
"He was very good and I thought our rucks broke even with (Mark) Jamar, who is close to All-Australian ruckman."
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/jack-might-be-tiring-richmond-coach-20100808-11q63.html
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Browne will be better than Gus for mine.
Browne is very very good in a pack where as Gus is easily beaten.
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I still don't think he's ready.
I don't think he's any good. Reminds me of Blake @ Geelong.....dopey.
I hope I'm wrong though.
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I still don't think he's ready.
I don't think he's any good. Reminds me of Blake @ Geelong.....dopey.
I hope I'm wrong though.
Sandilands is dopey. Last time I checked Ruckman aren't rated on their looks or IQ?
Leunberger is dopey. Seaby is dopey. David Hale is dopey.
He's played 4 AFL games don't forget.
Can take a nice pack mark, something that I think he's ahead of Vickory and Gus in that area.
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I still don't think he's ready.
I don't think he's any good. Reminds me of Blake @ Geelong.....dopey.
I hope I'm wrong though.
Sandilands is dopey. Last time I checked Ruckman aren't rated on their looks or IQ?
Leunberger is dopey. Seaby is dopey. David Hale is dopey.
He's played 4 AFL games don't forget.
Can take a nice pack mark, something that I think he's ahead of Vickory and Gus in that area.
I meant dopey in a footy sense. Not in IQ.
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I still don't think he's ready.
I don't think he's any good. Reminds me of Blake @ Geelong.....dopey.
I hope I'm wrong though.
Sandilands is dopey. Last time I checked Ruckman aren't rated on their looks or IQ?
Leunberger is dopey. Seaby is dopey. David Hale is dopey.
He's played 4 AFL games don't forget.
Can take a nice pack mark, something that I think he's ahead of Vickory and Gus in that area.
I meant dopey in a footy sense. Not in IQ.
justin madden anyone???
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He's no good. Just has no footy idea what he's doing where he should go and why he's there. Reminds me of a bad version of Robert Schaefer.
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Browne is a far better prospect than Vickery at the minute, thats a fact.
DerickX in 1 game showed he is better than the lot
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Vickery should be selling handbags
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Had a decent
game for the 2nds again.
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Browne > Graham
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Browne > Graham
At the least he should be given a crack after his recent form. Any upgrade on Graham would be a quantum leap forward.
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He's learning Browne, his size helps a lot but he still has a way to go. One effort today, he dropped a simple mark under no pressure and looked like a giraffe with MS trying to pick it up for a sec, You guys would be all over him faster than taliban into a hillside cave.
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He's learning Browne, his size helps a lot but he still has a way to go. One effort today, he dropped a simple mark under no pressure and looked like a giraffe with MS trying to pick it up for a sec, You guys would be all over him faster than taliban into a hillside cave.
:lol
Maybe CUB but I couldn't dislike him any more than Graham. If you have nothing else as a player then at least have some heart. Graham = Peaheart
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BrownE repaid the coaching staff who brought him in this week. Also copped a nice shiner under his left eye for his troubles.
(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/231179.jpg)
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The big fella's performance would have meant a lot of contented tiger heads as they passed out last night. If he improves on that we wont see graham back in, in the short term
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I was content after the very first bounce ;D
We had a ruckman watching the bloody ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And guess what - he did for the entire game
Can't have it! Can we? ;D
Seriously, I thought he was great, for the amount of work he did, I thought he did a fantastic job. He is still very raw but I reckon he showed there's a fair bit to work with
And a well done to Jayden Post - he was a reasonable foil when he went into the middle when teh gave BrownE a rest
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If Browne's performance last night doesn't highlight how much difference having a fair crack from your ruckman means to our team then I don't know what will. Goodbye Graham, don't bother coming back.
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Agreed, the big Dinosaur was great last night!!!!
I am sure i seen him take a couple of contested marks also, something Graham never does.
:thumbsup
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Poor ol Browne worked his clacker off last night, he was almost falling over from exhaustion but kept on fighting for the ball lol He needs more games imo
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Thought Browne and Vickery were both good
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I was content after the very first bounce ;D
We had a ruckman watching the bloody ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And guess what - he did for the entire game
Can't have it! Can we? ;D
Seriously, I thought he was great, for the amount of work he did, I thought he did a fantastic job. He is still very raw but I reckon he showed there's a fair bit to work with
And a well done to Jayden Post - he was a reasonable foil when he went into the middle when teh gave BrownE a rest
agree wp
and the postman just needs a confidence builder, only if he kicked that goal , he will be a dominant player if he just gets that confidence
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I was content after the very first bounce ;D
We had a ruckman watching the bloody ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And guess what - he did for the entire game
Can't have it! Can we? ;D
Seriously, I thought he was great, for the amount of work he did, I thought he did a fantastic job. He is still very raw but I reckon he showed there's a fair bit to work with
And a well done to Jayden Post - he was a reasonable foil when he went into the middle when teh gave BrownE a rest
spot on WP. He was awesome. Did a great job all night. He proved me wrong last night. I hope he can go on to be a permanent. Already passed Graham IMO.
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Browne’s big night out
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Wed 25 May, 2011
The 203cm, 105kg, ‘Man Mountain’ from Mansfield, was a valuable contributor, winning a game-high 24 hit-outs, to go with his 15 disposals, six marks, four tackles, and plenty of ‘one-percenters’.
“He was fantastic,” Trent Cotchin told the 3AW football panel.
“He promised the midfield group before the start of the game that he was just going to create a contest.
“That’s what his role was within the side - and that’s what he did.
“He was up against three really good ruckmen in Ryder, Hille and Bellchambers, so to be one v three for the majority of the game, and give the effort that he did, throwing himself at some contests, is just fantastic. And, that’s all we can ask of him . . .”
Full article at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/114729/default.aspx
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Goosestep Gus is gawn
wonder what he used to promise before the start of a game? post match kiddies meals at mcdonalds?
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He promised blowies to the leadership group and the coaches. Could be the only possible reason he has ever been picked to play seniors.
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He promised blowies to the leadership group and the coaches. Could be the only possible reason he has ever been picked to play seniors.
Yep. :lol
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Gobby Graham :cheers
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:lol
you're on fire tonight
:lol
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that's pure bunkum
and stop trying to get back onto my website you sexy donut
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Hey man, can I have one of your rugged yet beautiful hand made knives? Could come in handy when I go hunting with the yanks next week. :thumbsup
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He promised blowies to the leadership group and the coaches. Could be the only possible reason he has ever been picked to play seniors.
:lol
I'm actually wondering if gus was just filling the void until they thought brown was ready/earned his go?
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Pack ur poo you useless eff.
Htf did he get drafted??
Just a big joke.
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you prefer Graham?
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a 1/10 performance tonight. Fired all his shots last week. We dont have a ruckman.
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you prefer Graham?
Yes!
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you prefer Graham?
Yes!
Same here.
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you prefer Graham?
Any stuffin day of the year
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a 1/10 performance tonight. Fired all his shots last week. We dont have a ruckman.
lol pretty much sums it up
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LMFAOOO
Graham is rubbish. Didnt see most of you blokes complaining last w/e. Graham would have been destroyed by Brogan tonight as well.
:lol
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We don't have a ruckman.
Its that simple.
What do we do? Play a dopey slow trier with no skills like Browne or play a dopey lazy girl with ok skills in Graham?
I'd rather Post come in and ruck with Vickery chopping in. Post did alright against Essendon.
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LMFAOOO
Graham is rubbish. Didnt see most of you blokes complaining last w/e. Graham would have been destroyed by Brogan tonight as well.
:lol
I did H, just not on here. ;)
I see Browne = Graham, but I prefer Graham.
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sadly he undone all his good work with that PATHETIC performance...he's on notice that;s for sure
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Get rid of them both at the end of the year. We are wasting our time here.
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Get rid of them both at the end of the year. We are wasting our time here.
Yep.
VFL players like Cam Pederson would take our number 1 ruck post easily.
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Differences
Graham can mark kick,kick goals,handball and ruck.
Brown is an embarrassment way more than Gus
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Still only 20 years old, is ahead of Graham at the same age
Last week was one out of the box, shame he couldn't back it up but who knows, perhaps he hadn't recovered from the game last week
Graham was terrible at Coburg last week so didn't deserve a call up, Derrickx was shocking at Coburg earlier today
I'd expect Graham to come back in against Sydney but Browne deserved his game today
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Differences
Graham can mark kick,kick goals,handball and ruck.
Brown is an embarrassment way more than Gus
really can you point me to those games where this happened.
5 yrs of graham is enough for me. 6 games of browne and 4 yrs younger. personally while both are dinosaurs and both are ordinary i know which one id persevere with.
what is patently clear is the club should have gone out got an extra ruckman or two like some of suggested.
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I think we need to perservere with Browne for a few weeks. We have been doing so with Graham for the first 8 games. It's only fair. Graham is not exactly setting the world on fire. Browne had a good game last week that's still relatively fresh in our memories at least.
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We don't have a ruckman.
Its that simple.
Yep agree . we gotta do the Sydney trick and let some other stuffin club develop a ruckman for 6 years then poach him
At least Graham was BOG in the magoos. Can't do much more than that. Oh and from what I saw today you can forget about Derickxxx. He was really terrible
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BrownE should be playing wearing a black and yellow oak barrel. Hillbilly yokel.
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Hmm
At leas the made contest last night unlike some of his more seasoned team mates :banghead :banghead
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the guy is a joke,so much in fact he make Angus look good.
I stated in the off season that we have no ruck,maybe even started a thread about it so dont give me ur soft aRs bull poo.
Fact is Browne is a chromosome off female retardation,
I have refrained from brutality on these boards till now but Browne-....? stuffing please - just a wacko with no skills - cant even ruck-just stands there,
Cant mark in contests - OMFG U stuffwits - UR EMBARRASSING
what about his peanut physique?
wacko.
Last nite was the worst performanceof a ruckman in the history of afl.
its embarrassing he is even on the list
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Our ruck divsion is our weakest area. I don't believe either Browne or Graham is upto it. I hope I am wrong. Dont write off Derrickx yet. Priority should be given to recruiting a ruckman
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The fact is is that we have the worst ruck division in the league. Vickery aside, we are an embarrassment.We can only pray that Vickery bulks up quicker than we expect and can take the No.1 role. Shame is though, is that Vickery is now showing himself to be an excellent 3rd tall forward and backup ruck but we are getting desperate.
All of those people on here calling for Grahams head and claiming Browne to be a much better option are f'en delusional! People are ready to slag off at Graham but last night he would have looked like Sandilands, Cox and Polly Farmer all combined compared to Brownes pitiful efforts. Browne may have the heart of Pharlap and gives his all but this is not good enough. He can't kick (and I mean at all!), is a lumbering dinosaur with a terrible endurance and isn't strong enough either. You have to admire his determination but it's obvious that Graham is by far the better choice.
Perhaps Derickx will come on but next time people want to slag off at Graham don't even think to claim that Browne is a better option! :banghead We do not have a better option at the moment >:(
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Graham has a pea heart and is one of the most disgraceful players to have ever worn the yellow & black.
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Apologies to big Andrew.
He gave his all again and should hold his head high....sort of....half mast
I was pretty peeed off up until about 30 minutes ago.
He's just a kid...bla bla.
Was a woeful performance and im sure he's doing head miles today.
We have the list we have this year and i have been trying hard to not go mental on the kids.
.....still not happy tho
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:rollin @ brownE :rollin @ Graham :rollin at rucks in general! Let them dominate just learn to ruck to the 2 or 3 that are any good in the league.
And Bogan isn't one of them!
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Differences
Graham can mark kick,kick goals,handball and ruck.
Brown is an embarrassment way more than Gus
really can you point me to those games where this happened.
5 yrs of graham is enough for me. 6 games of browne and 4 yrs younger. personally while both are dinosaurs and both are ordinary i know which one id persevere with.
what is patently clear is the club should have gone out got an extra ruckman or two like some of suggested.
Spot on Claw.
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How many on here think either Graham or Browne are you beut footballers, there wouldnt be many id say.
To me this is whats happening. We took a punt on angus a very very unco and limited player on the rookie list, nothing ventured nothing gained.
We have persevered for 5 seasons and while hes shown some improvement hes shown hes not the answer.
We have drafted a similar type player on the rookie list originally in Browne. Hes younger just as unco but needs to be given a chance to show he can at least be better than Graham. Its unlikely either will be good enough but after 5 yrs of gus with the same glareing deficiencies enough is enough.
People forget we are in rebuild OR CHOOSE TO IGNORE THIS SIMPLE FACT. Like it or lump it that is where we are at.
Browny is just one of many kids we will throw in the deep end and likely fail, but hopefully we will throw some in there who will succeed. Cmon people this is the process the club has failed to go thru and importantly stick to for 30 yrs now.
Its simple draft em, look at em, give em a chance to shine, keep those who do and turn the rest over. We have looked at gus he should be turned over we are now going thru the process of giving browny a chance to show he may belong or not. patience is called for.
people yelling for brownes head or helbigs are losing sight of the process we have to go thru. getting games into these kids and finding out if they have what it takes is more important than winning for us atm.
i can tell ya all when we have a squad capable of challenging for a flag we wont be having countless debates about how good or poor so many of our players are. we will know.
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claw - there is no doubt that Graham is not the answer...but neither is Browne. Browne's deficencies are not ones that can be corrected with time. Size, strength, experience and game nouse can be improved with time and development but skills rarely improve. Usually if skills do appear to improve with a player it is more likely an illusion created with players learning how to make better decisions under pressure and this execute desposals more confidently. Browne does not have that skill-set to begin with and neither I would suggest, well at least to a lesser degree, does Graham. Dimma recruited players into the club with an already definite level of desposal capablilty for a reason - you can't develop this.
Browny will give his all, wins a few taps and even take a few grabs from time to time but his speed and desposal will never improve. So while you call for patience and time with the big bluey, the facts remain he is a stop-gap and nothing more. So calls for his and Grahams demise ARE definitely unproductive and completely wasted at present regardless of the legitimacy of these outcries, but until we have ruckmen with the required skill set and potential to improve to AFL level then they are the best we have.
Won't stop people crying out in frustration and pain at both ruckmens obvious flaws but calls for their demise are fruitless non-the-less I give you.....
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Tommy Derickx should get the next opportunity. He mightn't be fully fit, but he can at least take a grab.
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I am curious to watch the replay because obviously how things looked live out on the ground in the Darwin heat & humidity compared to what came through on Foxtel must have been very different going by what I've read so far
really can you point me to those games where this happened.
5 yrs of graham is enough for me. 6 games of browne and 4 yrs younger. personally while both are dinosaurs and both are ordinary i know which one id persevere with.
what is patently clear is the club should have gone out got an extra ruckman or two like some of suggested.
Good points Claw
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I am curious to watch the replay ....
Are you sure? :rollin :lol
I deleted it straight off the HDD recorder as soon as the game finished.
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I am curious to watch the replay ....
Are you sure? :rollin :lol
I deleted it straight off the HDD recorder as soon as the game finished.
Every year for my birthday I get the entire season on DVD as a gift - it'll be delivered on Friday
I'll watch it and then probably either turf the DVDs or add them to my coaster collection :thumbsup
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I am curious to watch the replay because obviously how things looked live out on the ground in the Darwin heat & humidity compared to what came through on Foxtel must have been very different going by what I've read so far
WP, do you honestly think it was humid? At 8.30pm in Darwin on Sat night the relative humidity was 76%. In Melbourne at the exact same time (9.00pm) it was 79%. The temp in Darwin was 21%. I can't buy into the weather being a factor at all - it's a convenient bullsh1t excuse.
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WP, do you honestly think it was humid? At 8.30pm in Darwin on Sat night the relative humidity was 76%. In Melbourne at the exact same time (9.00pm) it was 79%. The temp in Darwin was 21%. I can't buy into the weather being a factor at all - it's a convenient bullsh1t excuse.
Personally smokey no I didn't think it was that humid. I did think as the sun was setting that the humidity went up but, no I didn't think it was that bad.
But I can understand why people are saying it though. Especially the way the ball seemed to move in the air and with the extra moisture on the ground surface
Couple with that having left Melb in the morning where it was only 12 degrees and you could notice any humidty at all because of the cold and then getting to Darwin where it was 25-26 and it got hotter as the day went on think people just automatically think hot means humid up there
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Fact is Browne is a chromosome off female foolation,
:lol
That could be a Homer quote
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Fact is Browne is a chromosome off female foolation,
:lol
That could be a Homer quote
got to be close to quote of the yr.
foolation female at that sheesh the possibilities are endless.
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should have had a rookie ruck down at the club when we were canvassing for the last spot
which was really just a north korean election as they were always going to take travis the drug cheat
and how did that go again :banghead
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Travis ;D
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Tommy Derickx should get the next opportunity
Not on Saturday's performance Wayno. He got thrashed from what I saw. Too early to write him off but he'd want to get a lot better...quickly
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I am curious to watch the replay ....
Are you sure? :rollin :lol
I deleted it straight off the HDD recorder as soon as the game finished.
l did the same thing
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I was posted in Darwin for years and I don't recall a single day or night it wasn't hot and humid except for wet season when it was hot humid and chubby rain.
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I was posted in Darwin for years and I don't recall a single day or night it wasn't hot and humid except for wet season when it was hot humid and chubby rain.
Not humid at the moment Owl, not by a long shot. Wore a long sleeve top a few nights this week and slept under a doona each night bar one.
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Not humid at the moment Owl, not by a long shot. Wore a long sleeve top a few nights this week and slept under a doona each night bar one.
But it's all relative to what you're used to. For our players it was humid. BTW was it a long sleeve tiger jumper?
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Not humid at the moment Owl, not by a long shot. Wore a long sleeve top a few nights this week and slept under a doona each night bar one.
But it's all relative to what you're used to. For our players it was humid. BTW was it a long sleeve tiger jumper?
Yes it was actually and I also wore it home on the plane this morning. ;D
And I agree with what you're saying about "relative to what you're used to" but I flew there from Brisbane and presently we are having cooler weather with zero (it feels like) humidity so I know I would have felt some in Darwin if there had been any significant amount in the air. I'm not a meteorologist but my understanding is that the best conditions for dew to form (which was the principal reason for the 'slippery' conditions we saw) is a warm clear day followed by a cool night. Humidity usually goes hand in hand with cloud cover and we didn't see a cloud in the sky up there all day Saturday.
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lol when I was up there many a moon, it got to 16 overnight. Made front page next day "The big freeze" something along those lines.
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:lol
Have to say, I came up here in August quite a few years back and stayed in a cabin at a caravan park. It got down to 5 degrees overnight and was bloody freezing. Still got up to the mid/high 20's during the day (I think the kids may have even gone swimming) but from memory, the headlines at the time went something along the lines of 'almost snow'! :lol At least it pushed the obligatory (and daily) "man-eating animal found in city street" headline off the front page for the day.
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Not humid at the moment Owl, not by a long shot. Wore a long sleeve top a few nights this week and slept under a doona each night bar one.
But it's all relative to what you're used to. For our players it was humid. BTW was it a long sleeve tiger jumper?
The humidity is only high during the build up, wet season and build down.
At this time of year the only time the humidity rises is in the afternoons when the sea breeze brings in moisture off the ocean, even then it far from the stifling hell that we can get in November and December
Once the sun goes down it is cool an the humidity remains low.
Check out the weather observations for melbourne http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/observations/melbourne.shtml and Darwin http://www.bom.gov.au/nt/observations/ntall.shtml and you will see that the relative humidity is actually higher in Melbourne than Darwin.
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Leuenberger has the better of Browne in the hitouts but at least BrownE contested well all night so he should keep his spot ahead of Gus for now.
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i fell off the couch when he took a mark
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A few stages there he was almost co-ordinated, seriously not a bad effort tonight :clapping
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Browne is a bit of a goose but ge he tries hard. He's only 21.
Sandilands debuted as a 21 year old in 2003.
In that year he played 19 games averaged 7 disposals a game and 17 hit outs a game.
Not saying his anything likie Sandi but Sandi was rubbish in his early years. Browne just needs a biut of luck and has a big improvement curve like a Rance or Vickery net season.
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He got to where the ball was when it was in a contest and that is something Graham will never be found guilty of.
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Browne was good tonight.
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:help browne is embarrasing to watch. Like Blake at Geelong if he does anything remotely skillfull your either shocked or you laugh in amazement.
.....,,That said he's still better than Graham! :thumbsup
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:help browne is embarrasing to watch. Like Blake at Geelong if he does anything remotely skillfull your either shocked or you laugh in amazement.
.....,,That said he's still better than Graham! :thumbsup
pretty mean on the young kid.
Our number one ruck by miles.
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Geez. What do people expect?
he was very good last night. Contested well in the ruck, mopped up and took a couple of good marks.
Went far beyond my expectations. :thumbsup
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balls
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:help browne is embarrasing to watch. Like Blake at Geelong if he does anything remotely skillfull your either shocked or you laugh in amazement.
.....,,That said he's still better than Graham! :thumbsup
pretty mean on the young kid.
Our number one ruck by miles.
I agree it's probably mean. But the issue maybe that we may settle with him as our permanent future ruck when IMO he isn't the answer for modern day footy.
We should be looking at priority 1 for the club which is to recruit a kruzer type ruckman.
Look don't get me wrong, he did ok but lets not make the same mistake as Geelong that shouldve traded the girraffe Blake when they had the chance. Instead they lost Mumford to Sydney because of salary cap restraints. Luckily for them they seem to have unearthed another MOBILE ruckman in Vardy.
I just don't see Browne as the answer but that said he is better than Graham.
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BrownE is now on twitter:
http://twitter.com/abrowne34
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Big unit already. From what I have heard is was not picked up in the ND due to his poor endurance. I think this is something that can be corrected. His pace would be the real problem but he may be able to make up for this with his smarts.
Good choice
Stripes
no Stripes, unfortunately for us nothing has changed. He's still has no endurance and is shaped like a giant pear.
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Of all the current AFL ruckman at age 21 all of them were in their clubs 2nd side.
Browne isn't the problem, the fact we don't have someone at 24/25 years of age that is an AFL standard ruckman is the real problem.
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Of all the current AFL ruckman at age 21 all of them were in their clubs 2nd side.
Browne isn't the problem, the fact we don't have someone at 24/25 years of age that is an AFL standard ruckman is the real problem.
Exactly. But let's not allow that to get in the way of a good ol' Chicken Little rant! :thumbsup
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Big BrownE is 21 today :birthday.
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now i've seen some retreads "grace" the park wearing the yellow and black, but stuff me.
I actually thought after his effort in his first game that he may be a solid player who has a dip, but he actually looks like he is afraid to kick it, and when he actually does you can see why.
..and slow witted. that 50m penalty he gave away. :banghead
the umpire blew the whisle for a suns free as browne took possession with edwards running out wide. everyone stopped, including edwards so what does browne do? he handballs to edwards. :banghead
oww paaa.
which way did they go? which way did they go?
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balls
Hanging out of his ars maybe.....
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balls
Hanging out of his ars maybe.....
haha, he is playing ten pin bowls with Posty at the moment, LOL
Check the twitter account
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Babyhuey.JPG)
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now i've seen some retreads "grace" the park wearing the yellow and black, but eff me.
retreads, :lol
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Babyhuey.JPG)
is anyone else concerned with the way his right nacker is pushed to ones side?
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Woeful game against the Suns
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Babyhuey.JPG)
is anyone else concerned with the way his right nacker is pushed to ones side?
more concerned that you would even notice it.
actually im wondering if it is actually a deposit that resulted from him realising he may have to kick the effing ball
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please cut this guy loose.
i know gus has been awful for the majority for us too, but even the seagulls were better than this guy on Saturday.
You're torturing us with this guy out there.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Babyhuey.JPG)
is anyone else concerned with the way his right nacker is pushed to ones side?
LMAO @ that pic.
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From Andrew Browne twitter...
"Could you think of many other places you would rather be on mad Monday.."
"have needed a hip operation for a while. Just so happened that today was the best day for it.."
"just had the operation then still a bit groggy I'll be good in no time though"
Pic of BrownE in hospital: http://lockerz.com/s/135990297
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please cut this guy loose.
i know gus has been awful for the majority for us too, but even the seagulls were better than this guy on Saturday.
You're torturing us with this guy out there.
I'm sorry. i'l see what I can do.
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Glad that's out in the open thanks to social media.... I told Chutney I could keepp it quiet ;) ;D
Begs the question why did we persist playing him while he was injured :banghead :banghead
Oh that's right so he like others could get bagged unmercifully on internet forums :wallywink
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Well how the stuff did everyone get injured? Why did every man and his bloody dog seem to play if they were so badly injured? WTF. are we that bad. back from mad monday and confused;)
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WP-He wasnt injured in his first few games back when he just about fell over in the last quarter because he has a body like a pear.....
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WP-He wasnt injured in his first few games back when he just about fell over in the last quarter because he has a body like a pear.....
Ox can tell you he has been carrying the injury for a fair few weeks
Again my point is why play blokes when they are clearly injured... it is stupid especially when your season is shot to bits ...why do it..
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maybe because it's exagerated BS! ??
Why couldn't he Mark or Handball ?
Shi†man
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maybe because it's exagerated BS! ??
Why couldn't he Mark or Handball ?
pooman
Not BS Ox - he was injured... absolutely guarantee it :thumbsup
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Luke McGuane and Andrew Browne will be all australian when fully fit. This is what the coteries tell me and we must listen.
Browne and McGuane are coming back. when don't know when but we must be ready for it
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Psychological problems aint a valid injury,imo ;D....clearly :thumbsup
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1nBXgDu0L9A/Tj5CzMPb_KI/AAAAAAAAAKk/BNwQB-kEj0U/s1600/VLC+logo.png)
VLC
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Browne Is VLC
Beefcake is "The Butterfly Catcher"
Take your pick.
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Beefcake or VLC?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Sl7LC2EOyoA/SSMLZHmHjvI/AAAAAAAAAOY/ZWjxMR--Pjc/s400/meh_cat.jpg)
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Beefcake for sure
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VLC is a very good media player :thumbsup
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How long is VLC contracted for ?
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VLC is out of contract now ;D
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let's hope here are no workable updates,beta or tested.
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How long is VLC contracted for ?
Come on Oxy, you know you love him
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BrownE won the best RFC player at Coburg award.
Jake King Award – Best RFC Player - Andrew Browne
This award is in recognition of Jake King being the first Coburg Player to be drafted to our aligned club Richmond. The award will be presented annually to a Richmond Footballer who displays leadership, professionalism, courage and most of all mateship to all that put on the Coburg Jumper.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-0&sID=56260&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=13486831§ionID=56260
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2011 Richmond Player Review - Andrew Browne
Read full review here: http://fightingfury.tumblr.com/post/12959488589/2011-richmond-player-review-andrew-browne
Strengths:
When Andrew Browne plays you know you are going to get at least one thing from him and that is effort. Browne constantly battles the other ruckman and provides a contest in ruck duels and around the ground; when the ball does hit the deck he is not afraid to put his body on the line. When Andrew does win the ruck contest he is actually a pretty handy tap ruckman who can palm the ball down to teammates on most occasions. Around the ground Browne has shown that he can occasionally take a good grab and his handball is quite adequate for a big player, particularly when at ground level. Time is definitely on Browne’s side with 205cm, 105kg lump of a lad only turning 21 during the 2011 season.
Weaknesses:
Like so many young tall players in the league Browne struggles a little with his stamina. Towards the end of some games you can see that Andrew’s mind is willing but his body is not, often exhausted from battling against more senior, bigger bodies in the ruck. One big area of concern in Browne’s game is his kicking. His skills are not really up to scratch in this area and it shows when Andrew looks for the handball options even if none are there. While he does not need to become elite with his kicking, he needs to work on it to the point where he feels comfortable and confident in passing by foot if all handball avenues are cut-off. Despite his size, Browne would also like to improve on his contested marking a little as even though it is not terrible, improving in this area may take his game to the next level.
Read full review here: http://fightingfury.tumblr.com/post/12959488589/2011-richmond-player-review-andrew-browne
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I like Browne's endeavor, hope he can put it all together in time.
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The Jake King award?
What is next, The Marc Dragicevic Award?
The Stuart Wigney Award?
The Relton Roberts Award?
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BrownE's trying a new look.....
(http://c0014169.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_ad108fa)
http://lockerz.com/s/181471482
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The bloke should learn how to play the game before trying to stand out and copy everyone else.
I hold no hope that this bloke will do anything this year and in future years.
Gus is a better option and that's saying something
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lol
how do you stand out if you copy everyone else?
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lol
how do you stand out if you copy everyone else?
because there's only one Pear with a mohawk in the AFL
Thats how
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:lol
pay that
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Looks a bit like a big, dopey, ginger, chubby version of Dusty circa 2011.
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Big Andrew Browne will also play local footy next year for Keilor ...
Andrew Browne to play for Keilor Blues in 2013
Chris Cavanagh
From: Leader
November 06, 2012 3:31PM
KEILOR has secured the signature of 203cm former Richmond ruckman Andrew Browne.
The towering 22-year-old put pen to paper with the Blues last Wednesday, opting to head into the local football scene next year rather than run around in the Victorian Football League.
A 12-game player at AFL level, Browne was de-listed by the Tigers in September after failing to break into the senior line-up in season 2012.
He played 15 senior VFL games with Coburg this year, but said the decision not to pursue the state system had come on the back of a desire to ramp up his civil engineering university studies next year.
"Basically it was a toss up between that (Keilor) and VFL," Browne said.
"As it happened, I just decided I wanted to really enjoy my footy for a year after being in the AFL system.
"As for the coming years, I can definitely see myself playing VFL football again. But certainly for this year I just wanted to enjoy my footy and focus on studies and make that transition into life a little bit easier without having to worry about that commitment of VFL football."
Keilor football operations manager Kevin O'Reilly said the signing was a big one for the club, and had been helped by Browne's friendship with Tiger Luke McGuane.
"It's huge for us," he said.
"Obviously the drawcard of him coming to Keilor is Mick McGuane. He's a good mate of McGuane's nephew (Luke)."
News of Browne's arrival follows the signing of midfielder Luke Cartelli, who will play at the Blues full-time in 2013 having opted to depart VFL side Coburg.
"He's a good player, quality person and I'm really looking forward to working with him on a week-to-week basis," McGuane said of the 23-year-old, who played one game with the Blues this year.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/localfooty/andrew-browne-to-play-for-keilor-blues-in-2013/story-fn53klea-1226511569942