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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 20, 2011, 09:47:29 PM
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According to Damian Barrett we are after Port's Jackson Trengove in a big way.
Take that as you will.
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According to Damian Barrett we are after Port's Jackson Trengove in a big way.
Take that as you will.
seem to remember us being linked to him during trade talks in recent years, probably fairly one sided negotiation until the kid decides he wants to return to vic
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Decent ruckman, would be our 1st choice if we had him.
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Can also play key defensive post. Good player and would be happy to have him come to Richmond. Itll be a pity to lose such a superstar like Shane Edwards but as we all know, you got give something to get something ;D
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tbh Im not sure his performances are any better than Post at this point but hey dont let me pour cold water on it
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GG is a big fan.
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can play forward, back and ruck. wont come cheap
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(http://cdn2.slatterymedia.com/thumbs/main/223696.jpg)
Number 12
Height 197cm
Weight 97kg
DOB 02-11-1990
Debut Round 1, 2010 v North Melbourne @ AAMI Stadium
The courageous key defender put an injury-riddled 2009 behind him to make an immediate impact in 2010, debuting in Round 1 and going on to play 19 of a possible 22 games. He was used mainly as a key back, but also spent time pinch-hitting in the ruck and up forward. Trengove, at just 20 years of age, has been promoted to the club’s leadership group – a reflection of the maturity he possesses.
Draft history: 2008 NAB AFL Draft 2nd round selection (Port Adelaide) No. 22 overall.
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Career Stats:
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1986&SeasonID=ALL
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avg 11 disposals and 2 marks, astbury was about 50% better than that off memory, not sure Im altogether that excited
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Shane Edwards for JT.
Edwards back to SA.
No1 wants to play for PA
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Played for the Peggs.
Same school boy team Cotch played in.
Come on down mate. :thumbsup
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Essendon are the other club interested according to BF. Apparently he barracked for the Bombers as a kid.
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If this happens :pray Cheerio Lukey and Billiam
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GG is a big fan.
Yep wanted him instead of Larraine Vickery
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Don't tell me this is what has sent BF into melt down thats why its not working lol.
As someone has already said trade him for Edwards. But im sure they would want more then
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Give them McGuane...they're not Freo though ;D We'll send over the boots that Sarge kicked 6 in as apart of the deal.
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im a fan - good prospect
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't he be picked up in the preseason draft for nix? We would have to price him out of others reach.
Also, peoples thoughts on something like Edwards plus our banked 2nd rounder from last year?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't he be picked up in the preseason draft for nix? We would have to price him out of others reach.
Also, peoples thoughts on something like Edwards plus our banked 2nd rounder from last year?
I think GWS would be all over him if we tried to do that?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't he be picked up in the preseason draft for nix? We would have to price him out of others reach.
Also, peoples thoughts on something like Edwards plus our banked 2nd rounder from last year?
ill give them edwards for a pack of twisties
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Give 'em Connors and Morton. :thumbsup
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't he be picked up in the preseason draft for nix? We would have to price him out of others reach.
Also, peoples thoughts on something like Edwards plus our banked 2nd rounder from last year?
ill give them edwards for a pack of twisties
Good chuckle at that.
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Can't believe a thread's been started on some poo Damain Bar Rat has made up.
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Unless Trengove tells Port he wants out and Richmond is his one and only preferred club forcing Port to basically accept whatever they can get from us then pass. Port will have the stronger bargaining position if multiple clubs are interested and they'll want a early-mid range first round pick at least in exchange.
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rfc bargaining chip that was used effectively with both grigg and houli is we have a cavernous gap in our TPP meaning we could put an offer possibly 100k pa higher than a rival bidder...tbh im still not convinced he is an upgrade on a few prospects we already have in our ranks that need to take that next step
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According to Damian Barrett we are after Port's Jackson Trengove in a big way.
Take that as you will.
Well let's hope we get him, exactly what we need! This is the sort of aggressive recruiting we need to do. Just like Sheedy when he was at the Bombers and even now, he comes out in public and says what he is going to do......and it happens. No draft picks though.
Let's hope we get him!!!
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If we are recruiting him as a ruck I would question his height in todays game. At 197cm he would be short compared to everyone of our other 4 rucks. As a key defender that would be an enirely different matter :-\
If we were to convince him he would cost us plenty in early draft picks I'm sure. :-X
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Trengove isn't a ruckman although he can provide a chop out around the ground when needed. He's played more as a mobile tall mainly defensive side of centre at this stage. He's played well today for Port so far from what I've seen (granted it's against GC). 12 possies almost to half-time.
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And missed every target by foot.
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And missed every target by foot.
he'd fit right in then :lol
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And missed every target by foot.
he'd fit right in then :lol
lol :lol
He does handball more than he kicks.
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And missed every target by foot.
He poos all over McGuane in almost every aspect of the game. I say almost because McGuane is better at giving away free kicks ;)
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Trengove off on a stretcher they are saying. There goes that trade if it was true.
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knocked out according to the fools on SEN
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knocked out according to the fools on SEN
Well that's heaps better news for Trengove. On 3aw they were making comments like "oh this doesn't look good for the kid" as though he had just done his knee.
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I like the he moves for a big man, did some good stuff against the Suns, kicked a nice goal.
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I thought he was very average today to be honest.
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knocked out according to the fools on SEN
Well that's heaps better news for Trengove. On 3aw they were making comments like "oh this doesn't look good for the kid" as though he had just done his knee.
if true....but they are muppets.
listening to the call they made out like Hunt beat Motlop in a one one duel.
they even mentioned it later giving hunt credit for it.
when i saw the replay, hunt spoiled motlop from marking and went to ground while motlop stayed on his feet. Motlop, with little pressure then over ran the ball and failed to pick it up. ::)
So Id take anything they said with grain of salt.
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Did anyone watch his game against the Hawks on the weekend?? I really think this kid would be an asset at our club, he played a really good solid game, seemed to be everware and really kept them in it.
I would be going hard for this kid if I were at the RFC, he is what we need in our backline/ruck/pinch hitting forward and he is versatile....swap him for Thursfield... :lol
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upgrade of Adam Pattision
Absolutely a pass for me.
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upgrade of Adam Pattision
Absolutely a pass for me.
Oh please Daniel, he is nothing like Pattison was, not even an upgrade of him...he is 10 times the player now that Patto ever was and Trengove will only get better IMO.
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my concern on him is his kicking and decision making
good size though, athletic, aggressive
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my concern on him is his kicking and decision making
good size though, athletic, aggressive
Im sure there were questions on King, Rance, White e.tc.
If Dimma and co could bring these traits up to scratch with some solid development.
What would your opinion be then ?
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Be worth a look then
Maybe Dimma can fix McGuane in the meantime
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Be worth a look then
Maybe Dimma can fix McGuane in the meantime
And Post, Asbury and Gourdis. Then we wouldn't need Trengove!
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Not much to worry about with Astbury
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Be worth a look then
Maybe Dimma can fix McGuane in the meantime
And Post, Asbury and Gourdis. Then we wouldn't need Trengove!
What is it with people hating on young KP players.
Young KP's can get carried in sides like Geelong (Hawkins), not ours. Post would be the same player as Hawkins IMO.
Just stick fat.. Postie and Astbury will be OK.
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Be worth a look then
Maybe Dimma can fix McGuane in the meantime
And Post, Asbury and Gourdis. Then we wouldn't need Trengove!
What is it with people hating on young KP players.
Young KP's can get carried in sides like Geelong (Hawkins), not ours. Post would be the same player as Hawkins IMO.
Just stick fat.. Postie and Astbury will be OK.
I know that and it is fair comment, it was more a comment about the trade idea.
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We'll get to see how Trengove goes against either Vickery or Miller on Saturday night.
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Heard a rumour from a genuine source that Patrick Dangerfield is desperate to come back to Melbourne.
Keen on Geelong or Carlton. Essendon have offered him enourmous $.
Apparently Carlton are contemplating a straight swap for Gibbs.
Wonder if we can enter the race. Would be a great addition the boy can play.
Edwards and first pick?
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Poor man's Dusty. 8) No thanks.
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I can't see Carlton giving up Gibbs. It's a no net gain swap if they did. Essendon can throw all the big bucks around they want - no other club wants to trade with them after all the shananigans they've got up to during past trade weeks.
Edwards and our first pick (which might end up being a mid-late teen pick) wouldn't cut it. The Crows would see that as a late first round pick plus a fringe player only. They've already been burnt trading a end of first round pick for a fringe player like Tambling :yep.
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Would McGuane interest them :lol Send him, Morts and a few others over there ;D
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Adelaide would want at least a player we would not be willing to trade. And probably our 1st pick which I couldn't see the club trading away no matter what number it was. Anyways IMO we don't need him. But wouldn't say no if we could screw them over at the trade table again though like we did with Tambling.
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Poor man's Dusty. 8) No thanks.
Hardly an excuse, in a year or two every player in the league will be poor compared to him
I'd love Dangerfield to come to Richmond, but I wouldn't want to give up what it will cost us
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hought this was aired 12 months ago and he re-signed...whats changed ::)
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hought this was aired 12 months ago and he re-signed...whats changed ::)
Wasn't that Knights? If he says he wants to come to Tigerland, then we are in the box seat, otherwise will cost us too much.
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Keen on Geelong or Carlton. Essendon have offered him enourmous $.
I have also seen from a reliable poster on BF that Essendon are all over Josh Toy as well.
They're desperate to land a big fish!!
Carlton would want more than Dangerfield for Gibbs. Gibbs has shown a lot more than Dangerfield.
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Keen on Geelong or Carlton. Essendon have offered him enourmous $.
I have also seen from a reliable poster on BF that Essendon are all over Josh Toy as well.
They're desperate to land a big fish!!
Carlton would want more than Dangerfield for Gibbs. Gibbs has shown a lot more than Dangerfield.
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Ditto
Dangerfield too inconsistent unless its for Edwards.
Gibbs for Dangerfield. hahahahahahaha
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Geelong's first pick + Mackie
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Gibbs for Dangerfield. hahahahahahaha
Given the choice I'd take Dangerfield ahead of Gibbs for sure
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hought this was aired 12 months ago and he re-signed...whats changed ::)
Wasn't that Knights? If he says he wants to come to Tigerland, then we are in the box seat, otherwise will cost us too much.
I reckon BJ17 is onthe money I am sure Dangerfield signed a new contract last year tying him to the Crows until the end of 2012
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hought this was aired 12 months ago and he re-signed...whats changed ::)
Wasn't that Knights? If he says he wants to come to Tigerland, then we are in the box seat, otherwise will cost us too much.
I reckon BJ17 is onthe money I am sure Dangerfield signed a new contract last year tying him to the Crows until the end of 2012
Anyone know how to get this confirmed? Wont be happy with my reliable source lol
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Gibbs for Dangerfield. hahahahahahaha
Given the choice I'd take Dangerfield ahead of Gibbs for sure
Yeah but if you were Carlton, on output so far, you'd want more.
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I remember him signing a long term deal too
Doesnt mean he can't still ask for a trade but the asking price will be very high
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Anyone know how to get this confirmed? Wont be happy with my reliable source lol
Would seem your "reliable source" is either on the sauce or a dud ;D
From July 2010 when he re-signed:
Patrick Dangerfield commits to Crows
Al Paton
Herald Sun
July 28, 2010 6:02PM
ADELAIDE has headed off interest from the Gold Coast and Geelong to re-sign emerging midfield star Patrick Dangerfield.
Dangerfield signed a new contract with the Crows today, although the length and terms are not known.
See: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-commits-to-crows/story-e6frf9jf-1225898140290
And from just a few days ago the 2/6/2011:
"Twenty-one-year-old Victorian Dangerfield told foxsports.com.au that the laidback nature of his adopted hometown was a key in him inking a new deal tying him to the Crows until the end of 2012.
Dangerfield, the No.10 pick in the 2007 national draft, looms as a prime target for Greater Western Sydney and Victorian clubs when his current contract runs out.
The Mark Ricciuto clone will be in high demand but it appears those chasing him will be wasting his time.
"I am enjoying my time over here, that's the reason I re-signed at the end of last season," Dangerfield said"
See: http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/adelaide-crows-young-gun-patrick-dangerfield-reveals-the-factors-keeping-him-in-the-city-of-churches/story-e6frf3e3-1226067877507
for the full article
Enough said really
Moral of the story - be careful of "reliable sources if they've been on the sauce" ;D
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The boy loves shhithole one-horse towns. Good news for Adelaide and Geelong :thumbsup
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Apparently Carlton are contemplating a straight swap for Gibbs.
Carlton = winners in that one!
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Apparently Carlton are contemplating a straight swap for Gibbs.
Carlton = winners in that one!
You are kidding right? Carlton will never make that BACKWARDS trade. Gibbs is becoming an A grader and while his 2011 output is not as good as previous he is a far better option that Dangerfield.
so dangerfield has kicked a few goals on the run here or there. WGAF. Far too inconsistent for mine. Watch his games.
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Dangerfield is contracted
he can ask to be traded but Adel wont trade him
So who cares ;D
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Apparently Carlton are contemplating a straight swap for Gibbs.
Carlton = winners in that one!
You are kidding right? Carlton will never make that BACKWARDS trade. Gibbs is becoming an A grader and while his 2011 output is not as good as previous he is a far better option that Dangerfield.
so dangerfield has kicked a few goals on the run here or there. WGAF. Far too inconsistent for mine. Watch his games.
Sorry Daniel, forgot my sarcastic smiley! You are right, I wouldn't trade Gibbs for Dangerfield in a pink fit - Adelaide would be ecstatic with that outcome!!
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Anyone know how to get this confirmed? Wont be happy with my reliable source lol
Would seem your "reliable source" is either on the sauce or a dud ;D
From July 2010 when he re-signed:
Patrick Dangerfield commits to Crows
Al Paton
Herald Sun
July 28, 2010 6:02PM
ADELAIDE has headed off interest from the Gold Coast and Geelong to re-sign emerging midfield star Patrick Dangerfield.
Dangerfield signed a new contract with the Crows today, although the length and terms are not known.
See: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-dangerfield-commits-to-crows/story-e6frf9jf-1225898140290
And from just a few days ago the 2/6/2011:
"Twenty-one-year-old Victorian Dangerfield told foxsports.com.au that the laidback nature of his adopted hometown was a key in him inking a new deal tying him to the Crows until the end of 2012.
Dangerfield, the No.10 pick in the 2007 national draft, looms as a prime target for Greater Western Sydney and Victorian clubs when his current contract runs out.
The Mark Ricciuto clone will be in high demand but it appears those chasing him will be wasting his time.
"I am enjoying my time over here, that's the reason I re-signed at the end of last season," Dangerfield said"
See: http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/adelaide-crows-young-gun-patrick-dangerfield-reveals-the-factors-keeping-him-in-the-city-of-churches/story-e6frf3e3-1226067877507
for the full article
Enough said really
Moral of the story - be careful of "reliable sources if they've been on the sauce" ;D
Only just read this.
I thought it was interesting info so interested in talking about it, no harm in that?
Will be interesting come trade week if Adelaide have lost their coach and finish bottom 4 what Dangerfield's intentions are.
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Hutchy said tonight Dangerfield has linked his future at Adelaide with that of Neil Craig's. They also showed Dangerfield on Before the Game saying the hardest part of visiting his family back home is leaving for the airport and he's taking playing in Adelaide one year at a time or moreso one week at a time given how they are playing.
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Please, no "Hutchy saids"
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They also showed Dangerfield on Before the Game saying the hardest part of visiting his family back home is leaving for the airport and he's taking playing in Adelaide one year at a time or moreso one week at a time given how they are playing.
Saw that. Crows would be very nervous about those comments. Specially the ' one week at a time because we are s*it ' comment.
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PORT Adelaide defender Jackson Trengove says he'll wait until later this season to negotiate a new contract after meeting with his management in Melbourne during the club's bye weekend a fortnight ago.
Trengove is out of contract at the end of the year and is believed to have attracted the interest of a number of Victorian clubs including Richmond, which is in dire need of a key-position defender
Full article at: http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/116833/default.aspx
Jon Ralphy from the HeraldSun on twitter:
"If Jackson Trengove wants out of Port Adel the queue to get him in Vic would stretch to 10 clubs. Richmond in mix, but what do you give up? "
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
But on another note, since this rumor rose it's head I have been one to back the club getting him and I will until after he lands at Punt Road. He would have to be our priority during trade week, the club would fail themselves and us supporters should they not have a decent crack at getting this guy to the club.
Offer up Edwards, White and/or a second/third round draft pick for him.
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
I think he knew it was a different one WAT, bit of a play on words there :birthday
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
I think he knew it was a different one WAT, bit of a play on words there :birthday
Yeah I looked at it both ways, he could have also meant that we would be lucky enough to end up with the top 3 picks out of that draft, not knowing which Trengove they were talking about. But I realise it was tongue in cheek.. :thumbsup
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
But on another note, since this rumor rose it's head I have been one to back the club getting him and I will until after he lands at Punt Road. He would have to be our priority during trade week, the club would fail themselves and us supporters should they not have a decent crack at getting this guy to the club.
Offer up Edwards, White and/or a second/third round draft pick for him.
Not sure if he should be our number one trade target this year with Mitch Clark a distinct possibility.... :-\
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
But on another note, since this rumor rose it's head I have been one to back the club getting him and I will until after he lands at Punt Road. He would have to be our priority during trade week, the club would fail themselves and us supporters should they not have a decent crack at getting this guy to the club.
Offer up Edwards, White and/or a second/third round draft pick for him.
Not sure if he should be our number one trade target this year with Mitch Clark a distinct possibility.... :-\
How old is Mitch Clark compared to Trengove Stripes, if he is in the same age bracket then I would agree with you. Otherwise Trengove IMO, would have to be no 1 on our radar.
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Cam Wood might be one we could look at ?
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Cam Wood might be one we could look at ?
Didn't we have the chance a couple of years ago to look at him and we didn't bother??
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Cam Wood might be one we could look at ?
Graham is better than him. bugger off to beige with your sh.ithouse suggestions
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Cam Wood. LMFAO
Trengrove for Edwards. Sounds good to me.
I dont think he is all that chop to be honest in the games ive seen.
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Cam Wood might be one we could look at ?
We'd be better off with what we have. Don't get seduced getting sub par players from strong on field clubs. Blake from Geelong is another one that comes to mind. When Jolly comes back from injury Cam Wood won't be getting a game.
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We'd be better off with what we have. Don't get seduced getting sub par players from strong on field clubs. Blake from Geelong is another one that comes to mind. When Jolly comes back from injury Cam Wood won't be getting a game.
Not getting seduced just throwing it out there. Wood is way better than Flake. He's played well while Jolly's been out and the fact he won't get a game when Jolly comes back is exactly why I mentioned him. He's a good age and he's served his apprenticeship at two clubs. He won't want to be playing magoos anymore I reckon.
I wouldn't give sh*t away to get him tho. PSD
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WTF are you smoking champ. Don't even entertain the idea
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WTF are you smoking champ.
Chroming Mortein tonite :cheers
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WTF are you smoking champ. Don't even entertain the idea
correct. Might as well get Knobel and patto back while we are at it.
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
But on another note, since this rumor rose it's head I have been one to back the club getting him and I will until after he lands at Punt Road. He would have to be our priority during trade week, the club would fail themselves and us supporters should they not have a decent crack at getting this guy to the club.
Offer up Edwards, White and/or a second/third round draft pick for him.
Not sure if he should be our number one trade target this year with Mitch Clark a distinct possibility.... :-\
How old is Mitch Clark compared to Trengove Stripes, if he is in the same age bracket then I would agree with you. Otherwise Trengove IMO, would have to be no 1 on our radar.
Mitch Clark is 23 (d.o.b. 19/10/87). He should've been a Tiger in the first place but we drafted JON instead :scream. I don't think we'll get him anyway even if we were willing to give up a lot for him. You'd think he'd want to head home to a WA club if he was to leave Brisbane.
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Cam Wood. LMFAO
Trengrove for Edwards. Sounds good to me.
I dont think he is all that chop to be honest in the games ive seen.
Yep we wouldn't want to give up much for Trengove. Not sure why we would be interested if it's too fill a key defensive post as Carlisle and Chaplin are the main two key backmen at Port.
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Could end up with Scully, Trengove and Martin LMAO
Different Trengove gerks.
I think he knew it was a different one WAT, bit of a play on words there :birthday
Yeah I looked at it both ways, he could have also meant that we would be lucky enough to end up with the top 3 picks out of that draft, not knowing which Trengove they were talking about. But I realise it was tongue in cheek.. :thumbsup
Gerks usually has his tongue between the cheeks.
And I'm not sure we are in 'dire' need of key defenders. Depending on Moore's status we still have good potential for Astbury, Post, Grimes and Rance to step up.
I'm not saying we have the right mix now but dire need is a bit strong. And to be honest I wouldn't put Trengove much above what we have now.
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And I'm not sure we are in 'dire' need of key defenders. Depending on Moore's status we still have good potential for Astbury, Post, Grimes and Rance to step up.
I'm not saying we have the right mix now but dire need is a bit strong. And to be honest I wouldn't put Trengove much above what we have now.
I agree with the last bit but we are badly in need of a big body defender with footy smarts who the entire backline can be built around (also badly need a quality ruckman obviously). We leak soft goals like a sieve especially against the better sides. We've seen what a difference Jamieson has done to Carlton's backline. They were just as leaky and small down back as us now yet now they are more solid defensively which has pushed them up to being a top 4 side.
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Carlton have also found a gem in Curnow as well as reinventing Yarran in defence also, but I get your point MT. :thumbsup
I think we need a Harry Taylor type in defence. Take on the monsters as well as having the capacity to take contested marks in the backline. Who can remember his matchwinning or matchsaving mark in the 2009 GF.
I think Rance can fit that bill but another one like Harry would be nice.
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Gerks usually has his tongue between the cheeks.
Usually yours :-*
Something about the fibre up in Castlemaine, just tastes... better
I have this wet dream we bring in Scully, McIntosh, Trengove and O'Meara this off-season whilst retaining our first rounder and the tambo compo and blokes like Graham, Connors, Morton and McGuane disappear into the pink part of a rainbow...
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Gerks usually has his tongue between the cheeks.
Usually yours :-*
Something about the fibre up in Castlemaine, just tastes... better
I have this wet dream we bring in Scully, McIntosh, Trengove and O'Meara this off-season whilst retaining our first rounder and the tambo compo and blokes like Graham, Connors, Morton and McGuane disappear into the pink part of a rainbow...
What about Roy Gbiv?
Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet.
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At 20 years of age Trengove could fit right into this team IMO, he has not yet developed body wise yet and could end up as a very big bodied defender. Imagine Trengove a bulked up and Rance down back with a fit Moore coming into the side, Grimes, Newman and Conca/Webberly/Batchalour/Astbury and that to me is a great back line to work on!!!!
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All nice in theory WAT. Just wouldn't want to pay overs for him.
A mid range player like Edwards who has been in the system 5 years would be an adequate swap. Even so I kind
of think that a deal involving someone like McGuane. Like for Like. Been in the system for 5 years and will fit
right in at Alberton not being the number 1 defender behind Carlisle.
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What about Roy Gbiv?
Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet.
:lol
We have pink in our rainbows up here. Seems Old Roy was a bit of a homophobe and got the ass. That's what happens when your city is full of overweening Christian gays, no one thinks of the poor children or my dreams. It's all about the queers trying to convince everyone and themselves that the Lord God our Father loves them when deep down they know he doesn't and they're going to hell.
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Richmond in hunt for Port Adelaide utility Jackson Trengove
Steve Larkin
From: Herald Sun
June 23, 2011
PORT Adelaide utility Jackson Trengove is considering moving home to Victoria.
The emerging 20-year-old, out of contract at Port at season's end, is being chased by several Victorian clubs.
Richmond is believed to be the major suitor for Trengove, who this year became the youngest-ever member of Port's leadership group.
The 31-gamer returned to Melbourne when Port had the bye a fortnight ago and discussed his future with his manager and family.
"At this stage, it's not going to get decided until towards the end of the year," Trengove said yesterday.
"I'll sit down again with my manager towards the end of the year, and my family, and we'll work out that situation."
Trengove's reluctance to re-commit is troubling debt-ridden Port, which will be financially propped up by the AFL for the next three years.
The key-position player said he loved living in Adelaide, but acknowledged the lure of his family in Melbourne.
"They (family) do play a bit of a part, whether they're happy ... and it's fair to say most players would think about their family," he said.
Recruited by Port with pick 22 in the 2008 national draft, Trengove said elevation into the Power's leadership group had been an enormous benefit.
"It has been fantastic for my personal development," he said. "Obviously learning off (captain) Dom (Cassisi) and (vice-captain) Dean (Brogan), who are the elder statesmen in that group, has been terrific for me.
"We are developing as a group and learning each day."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-in-hunt-for-port-adelaide-utility-jackson-trengove/story-e6frf9jf-1226080190582
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Would people swap say Adelaides compo pick and Thursfield/Mc.Gone for him?
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Of course we would
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Now that he has made it known bargaining with Port may become even harder. Port will sit back and wait for the best offer. This deal could get done whoever gets him at 1:59 pm on the Friday at trade week. Just don't pay overs for him Tigers.
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Of course we would
We won't be giving up that compo pick with the quality of next year's draft.
Port need a ruck. Gus + 2nd round pick will be on the table and they'll go from there I reckon.
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Would people swap say Adelaides compo pick and Thursfield/Mc.Gone for him?
No. That would be paying way overs. Thursfield or McGuane and a pick around 50-60 at most.
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Thursfield or McGuane and a pick around 50-60 at most.
That's unders ;D
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When are we going to get something decent off these guys? Trengove would fit in here but I don't know who they'd be interested in. Good luck trying to turn McGuane into another success story :D
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Give them our prize cow, a new bell, and a decent draft pick
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Give them our prize cow, a new bell, and a decent draft pick
haha :lol :rollin :lol
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All nice in theory WAT. Just wouldn't want to pay overs for him.
A mid range player like Edwards who has been in the system 5 years would be an adequate swap. Even so I kind
of think that a deal involving someone like McGuane. Like for Like. Been in the system for 5 years and will fit
right in at Alberton not being the number 1 defender behind Carlisle.
On the money TB..on the money... :thumbsup
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We know we have Blair Hartley on board as our opposition list analyst to scan potential trade targets (and eventually any potential free agents) and we're apparently interested in Port's Jackson Trengove according to the media.
Any other possible targets? Just putting this out there as a hypothetical but would the Club look at say a Paddy Ryder who has natural talent but is out of form for whatever reason in a struggling Bombers line-up. Say possibly as a CHB or at least as another KPP?
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I read in one of the papers yesterday - Mitch Clarke a possibly target..not sure on that one either
But Ryder is a NO and I don't think the Bumbmlers will trade him anyway
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No to Ryder. Lazy and Essendumb would want a first rounder.
They have no idea when it comes to trading. :lol
A ruck would be nice, a key backman... maybe, we have Rance, Grimes, Astbury coming through there.
After Saturday, it is evident we still need plenty of midfield depth.
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Hamish Mcintosh please.
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Strengthen the spine with a decent ruck and a monster CHB then load up on mids, mids and more mids
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A midfielder and a small forward.
Nahas may find it hard next year with more attention. Taylor might not ever return. We need a Robbie Gray type forward
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Hamish Mcintosh please.
Will be 27 in the coming months.....
Might be another 'Simmonds Stop Gap'.
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Hamish Mcintosh please.
Will be 27 in the coming months.....
Might be another 'Simmonds Stop Gap'.
If we can use a Fiora type player to get him, i'd be all for it.
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HMac is a gun. Would take a fair bit to get him.
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Dean Brogan has retired....
Angus Graham and 2nd round pick for Jackson Trengove ;D
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Mitch Clarke, McIntosh / any half decent Ruck younger then 27.
We will go up 5% with a competitive/big-bodied ruckman.
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I read in one of the papers yesterday - Mitch Clarke a possibly target..not sure on that one either
But Ryder is a NO and I don't think the Bumbmlers will trade him anyway
Ryder going back to Freo ;)
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I read in one of the papers yesterday - Mitch Clarke a possibly target..not sure on that one either
But Ryder is a NO and I don't think the Bumbmlers will trade him anyway
Ryder going back to Freo ;)
I hear kid has health issues and family might be calling
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Goldstein- young ruckman who can take a contested mark.
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I hear kid has health issues and family might be calling
I heard that Ryder's missus left him for another Bomber player??
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Goldstein- young ruckman who can take a contested mark.
Not a chance. You'd have to give up Riewoldt, Martin or Deledio.
It's a pity Hamish McIntosh has been injury prone, he may have kept Goldstein out of the side if he had been fit and Goldstein may have looked for opportunity elsewhere.
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Goldstein- young ruckman who can take a contested mark.
He will want too much money!
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I hear kid has health issues and family might be calling
I heard that Ryder's missus left him for another Bomber player??
Coaching Staff?
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I hear kid has health issues and family might be calling
I heard that Ryder's missus left him for another Bomber player??
Coaching Staff?
Player is what I heard, probably someone who has been doing a lot of one on one work with Bomber Thompson ;D
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I hear kid has health issues and family might be calling
I heard that Ryder's missus left him for another Bomber player??
Coaching Staff?
l be weary down there with Lloyd sticking the forks into people ;D
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Brisbane ruckman Mitch Clark proves pricey for Richmond
Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
June 30, 2011
RICHMOND is out of the race to sign uncontracted Brisbane ruckman Mitch Clark.
At $500,000-$600,000 a season, it is believed Clark has priced himself out, the Tigers now setting their sights on another ruckman.
Port Adelaide's Jackson Trengove, recruited from the Calder Cannons via Strathmore, has now been linked to the Tigers.
Speculation is Clark may be a Greater Western Sydney target, one of seven players linked to the club.
Tigers head of football Craig Cameron said of Clark yesterday: "We think he is a quality player but may be too expensive for us."
It was reported on superfooty.com.au yesterday GWS had made offers to midfielder Daniel Rich and Clark.
Brett Deledio and Nathan Foley will be available for free agency in two years, so the Tigers will need salary cap space to not only keep those two, but to reward young stars Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-ruckman-mitch-clark-proves-pricey-for-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226084439110
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The answer to a question I didn't know was asked .....
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We're out there battling away... Good work Francis. :cheers
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Half a mil for a guy that has only shown anything in one season...
No thanks.
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how much would we want to give up for say Trengrove. What is he anyhow? ruckman utility. We need a ruckman simple as that and he is too short for your no 1 man
Port would want too much especially with Brogan retiring.
Ive had enough of adelaide players at our club. Pass
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Hamish McIntosh has to be the one. Goldstein is in vogue and they have a few other ruckman don't they?
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I fully agree with that one on the proviso he is fit and injury free.
People forget just how good Mcintosh was a few years back but achilles is a big injury to get over
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People forget just how good Mcintosh was a few years back but achilles is a big injury to get over
Our medicos have done some good work with achilles injuries recently.
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Brisbane ruckman Mitch Clark proves pricey for Richmond
Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
June 30, 2011
RICHMOND is out of the race to sign uncontracted Brisbane ruckman Mitch Clark.
At $500,000-$600,000 a season, it is believed Clark has priced himself out, the Tigers now setting their sights on another ruckman.
Port Adelaide's Jackson Trengove, recruited from the Calder Cannons via Strathmore, has now been linked to the Tigers.
Speculation is Clark may be a Greater Western Sydney target, one of seven players linked to the club.
Tigers head of football Craig Cameron said of Clark yesterday: "We think he is a quality player but may be too expensive for us."
It was reported on superfooty.com.au yesterday GWS had made offers to midfielder Daniel Rich and Clark.
Brett Deledio and Nathan Foley will be available for free agency in two years, so the Tigers will need salary cap space to not only keep those two, but to reward young stars Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-ruckman-mitch-clark-proves-pricey-for-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226084439110
Realistically, how much do we think we are going to pay for a top line ruckmen?
With GWS and GC out there inflating the price of players, we will probably have to pay overs but what else can we do? Take the plunge Tigers and show some balls. Come out publicly and say "this is who we want and this is what we are going to do about it." If a player hears we are into them big time and we are the best up and coming young side out there and they will be the number one ruckmen and play finals in the not so distant future, they will find it hard to say no.
Mitch Clarke was awesome a couple of years back when he was the number one ruckmen and is still young enough to be again. Plus can go forward and take a catch.
Not saying Mitch Clarke has to be it but ffs make the magic happen!! We have been useless for to long!!!
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Hamish McIntosh has to be the one. Goldstein is in vogue and they have a few other ruckman don't they?
Big Hamish won't want to be a backup ruck at this point in his career. He might want out.
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Trengove would be more of a CHB/second ruckman than our 1st ruck. This would allow us more flexibility to potentially swap between three ruck options with Vickery in the mix.
We do desperately need a No 1 ruckman and Clark would have been ideal but we may have to wait until Free Agency begins to avoid paying and risking too much. Ruckmen are usually late bloomers anyway but if we enter the market now we will get far less for far too much until the trade stigma of the new teams fades.
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Clark opens talks with Brisbane
By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
30 June 2011 11:46AM EST
LEADING AFL player manager Colin Young has angrily hit out at claims that Richmond has pulled out of a race to sign Brisbane Lions big man Mitchell Clark.
Young revealed that the Tigers have not been in the race to sign the versatile big man and that he has never spoken with Richmond officials about Clark.
The 23-year-old ruckman-forward is about to launch official contract negotiations with Brisbane, despite Clark consistently being linked with a possible move to new AFL club Greater Western Sydney.
Young vehemently refuted reports from Melbourne on Thursday that Clark was out of Richmond’s reach because of a $500,000 to $600,000 price tag.
Tigers football manager Craig Cameron was quoted as saying Clark “may be too expensive for us.”
Young declared he has not spoken to Cameron about Clark moving to the Tigers.
He said preliminary discussions on a new Clark deal with Brisbane have been held with Lions list manager Robbie Kerr.
“I have never spoken to Craig Cameron regarding Mitchell Clark,” Young bluntly told sportsnewsfirst.com.au.
“The story from Melbourne is a beat-up.
“I’ve actually started talks with Brisbane on Mitchell Clark.
“I expect that if things progress well with Brisbane and their list manager Robbie Kerr as well as these discussions have started, that we could have a resolution to Mitchell’s negotiation in three to four weeks.”
Young is expected to hold further discussions with Lions officials as early as next week.
Full article at: http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/06/30/clark-opens-talks-with-brisbane/
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The problem with Trengove for mine is that hes only 197cm, and with a the trend for ruckmen moving from 200cm to 203cm and beyond, plus his light frame, I think he's not the answer to our number 1 ruck problem.
Furthermore, clark isnt exactly built well, more of a mobile ruck option than a front line ruck.
Mcintosh is a better size but concerned about his injuries and age. By the time we are ready to have a real crack at the top 4/premiership in 2-3 years time, he'll be 29-30 and nearing the end of his career.
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Good news with Brogan retiring is they will looking for ruckman - we should offer Gus and ask for their 1st round pick in return
They are so clueless and desparate over they'd probably do it
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Good news with Brogan retiring is they will looking for ruckman - we should offer Gus and ask for their 1st round pick in return
They are so clueless and desparate over they'd probably do it
Jeepers Creepers, 1st round pick for Angus? If only !!
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Good news with Brogan retiring is they will looking for ruckman - we should offer Gus and ask for their 1st round pick in return
They are so clueless and desparate over they'd probably do it
Jeepers Creepers, 1st round pick for Angus? If only !!
They might think we're the mad ones!
With their great track record of getting the best from Tiger discards (Schulz, Rodan, er... Meyer), they might jump at it and laugh that all we wanted was one lousy 1st round pick!
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Goose and our 2nd rounder for Trengove and a free ride on the Popeye
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Goose and our 2nd rounder for Trengove and a free ride on the Popeye
Sounds like a dealio. Would laugh if Port somehow turned Gus around...taps it to Rodan who laces Schulz :D Nah, we'd stuff them up the ass with that deal. chuck in McGuane. Fattypatty Carlisle could be on his way to GWS
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Good news with Brogan retiring is they will looking for ruckman - we should offer Gus and ask for their 1st round pick in return
They are so clueless and desparate over they'd probably do it
Jeepers Creepers, 1st round pick for Angus? If only !!
ok ok
Gus, our 3rd rd pick for their first pick
I am nothing if not generous ;D
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Bellchambers has been ommitted from the purple circle at bummerland again .....
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Bellchambers has been ommitted from the purple circle at bummerland again .....
i thought of that also thinking he is pretty stiff to get omitted ahead of that pretender of a footballer in Ryder but he is a tap ruckman and a descent one. I dont think he has mobility around the ground and we need someone who is both.
Hamac of a few years back is exactly what we need
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Bellchambers has been ommitted from the purple circle at bummerland again .....
i thought of that also thinking he is pretty stiff to get omitted ahead of that pretender of a footballer in Ryder but he is a tap ruckman and a descent one. I dont think he has mobility around the ground and we need someone who is both.
Hamac of a few years back is exactly what we need
Yeah, he get's omited a week after signing a new 2 year deal! He would be spewing....
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We'll get to see how Trengove goes against big Jonathan Brown this week one-on-one.
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Out of contract. Need to throw everything at this kid to get him to Punt Road.
Outside of
Cotchin
Deledio
Martin
Conca
Riewoldt
Vickery
everyone else is tradeable
all picks are tradeable
salary cap not an issue give him a massive contract
get it done Tigers
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It is going to be an interesting trade period this year that'a for sure.......
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his deal is close to being finalised with Brisbane
get of your ass Cameron and make him an offer he cant refuse
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his deal is close to being finalised with Brisbane
get of your ass Cameron and make him an offer he cant refuse
It's probably not the best week to be trying that :whistle :whistle
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if we haven't already approached him Cameron should be sacked
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Cameron is a useless stuff. Sorry, Beigers, but he is. NFI
FHO and get someone with a clue.
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Has a bad haircut too. Stuck in a bygone era.
Agree not the most impressive bloke going around.
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want it. need it. get it.
Leuuuuuuuuuenbergerrrrrrrrrrr
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want it. need it. get it.
Leuuuuuuuuuenbergerrrrrrrrrrr
Looks like a heart attack job waiting to happen. I'd reckon 120,000 calories in that lot right there. :lol
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want it. need it. get it.
Leuuuuuuuuuenbergerrrrrrrrrrr
Looks like a heart attack job waiting to happen. I'd reckon 120,000 calories in that lot right there. :lol
Looks like Craig Cameron's head. Useless twit that bloke.
Go back to Melbourne
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Can someone please start a Craig Cameron thread?
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Craig Cameron ;D
We know who you are :police:
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Can someone please start a Craig Cameron thread?
Why? Does that burger remind you of his haircut :lol :lol
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Cameron is a cock.
But back to the topic. What would you give up for the Burger?
First round draft pick has to be the foundation of the deal.
Add a good player and another decent draft pick. What types do the Lions need?
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Cameron is a cock.
But back to the topic. What would you give up for the Burger?
First round draft pick has to be the foundation of the deal.
Add a good player and another decent draft pick. What types do the Lions need?
I'n still not sure the burger is our man? and if Clarke goes then Brisbane will fight tooth and nail to keep him. We need to broaden our horizons who is this Clarke lad playing for Freo? He looked alright in the preseason and clearly can't break into the side because of the Sandyman and now Griffin, a bag of peanuts could get that deal done?
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Cameron is a cock.
But back to the topic. What would you give up for the Burger?
First round draft pick has to be the foundation of the deal.
Add a good player and another decent draft pick. What types do the Lions need?
Lions could do with a defender. Rumours have had McGuane in the past linked with the Gold Coast. He can maybe travel 30 minutes up the Pacific Fwy and end up in Brisbane. I'm sure we could add something else we can afford to lose to get Clark to Punt Rd.
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Cameron is a cock.
But back to the topic. What would you give up for the Burger?
First round draft pick has to be the foundation of the deal.
Add a good player and another decent draft pick. What types do the Lions need?
Lions could do with a defender. Rumours have had McGuane in the past linked with the Gold Coast. He can maybe travel 30 minutes up the Pacific Fwy and end up in Brisbane. I'm sure we could add something else we can afford to lose to get Clark to Punt Rd.
Good luck getting from Carrara to the Gabba in 30 minutes Tucker, especially in peak hour! ;D
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I would look at Griffen from Freo. He plays great in the ruck while the big Sandilands is out but as soon as the big fella recovers he is out. Too good a player to be playing seconds. 100 times better than any ruck we have. I think we could do what Sydney did with mummy and offer him a decent contract and no.1 ruck position wihtin the team.
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I would look at Griffen from Freo. He plays great in the ruck while the big Sandilands is out but as soon as the big fella recovers he is out. Too good a player to be playing seconds. 100 times better than any ruck we have. I think we could do what Sydney did with mummy and offer him a decent contract and no.1 ruck position wihtin the team.
I thin it was mentioned here before that Griffin was traded to Freo because he wanted to go back to WA for personal reasons! I recon you would struggle to get him here. Zac Clarke on the other hand could be the man to have a shot at, 4 years in the system and not getting a game because of the two big men in front of him. He is 203cm and what I have seen of him he seems pretty mobile and can take a decent grab around the ground.
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Cameron is a cock.
But back to the topic. What would you give up for the Burger?
First round draft pick has to be the foundation of the deal.
Add a good player and another decent draft pick. What types do the Lions need?
Lions could do with a defender. Rumours have had McGuane in the past linked with the Gold Coast. He can maybe travel 30 minutes up the Pacific Fwy and end up in Brisbane. I'm sure we could add something else we can afford to lose to get Clark to Punt Rd.
Good luck getting from Carrara to the Gabba in 30 minutes Tucker, especially in peak hour! ;D
OK 45 minutes if you don't stop for a dip at the pool in Sea World. :thumbsup
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I thin it was mentioned here before that Griffin was traded to Freo because he wanted to go back to WA for personal reasons! I recon you would struggle to get him here. Zac Clarke on the other hand could be the man to have a shot at, 4 years in the system and not getting a game because of the two big men in front of him. He is 203cm and what I have seen of him he seems pretty mobile and can take a decent grab around the ground.
Yeah he only got traded from the Crows at the end of last year but apparently he's not happy because Harvey told him they'd be playing two rucks and so far he's only got a game when Sandi has been out. There was a rumour he was thinking about going back to SA. Could be possible to get him.
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I thin it was mentioned here before that Griffin was traded to Freo because he wanted to go back to WA for personal reasons! I recon you would struggle to get him here. Zac Clarke on the other hand could be the man to have a shot at, 4 years in the system and not getting a game because of the two big men in front of him. He is 203cm and what I have seen of him he seems pretty mobile and can take a decent grab around the ground.
Yeah he only got traded from the Crows at the end of last year but apparently he's not happy because Harvey told him they'd be playing two rucks and so far he's only got a game when Sandi has been out. There was a rumour he was thinking about going back to SA. Could be possible to get him.
Lets do it :thumbsup
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OK 45 minutes if you don't stop for a dip at the pool in Sea World. :thumbsup
Pricks charge you to go in there now, even though it has been part of the theme park entry for years.
Scumbags. >:(
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Which players could be trading places?
Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
July 06, 2011
THE trade period is still three months away, but the quiet jostling has already started.
Publicly, clubs have eyes on the finals. Privately, hit lists are being compiled as players, managers and recruiters zero in opportunities.
Some players appear likely to change clubs in trades, others squeezed out and picked up in the drafts.
The Herald Sun explores who could be on the move.
Tell us who should your club trade? Read The Buzz and blog with Jon Ralph from noon
Brian Lake (WB)
Potential new homes: Rich, Haw
THE Dogs have told Lake he's a "1000 per cent" required player - and expect him to stay at Whitten Oval to see out the final two years of his contract.
But that does not stop clubs from circling in search of an opportunity to snare a two-time All-Australian defender.
Rivals would have to dish up something special though - perhaps even two first-round picks - to make the Dogs waiver after such a strong public commitment.
Tyson Goldsack (Coll)
Potential new homes: St Kilda, Rich, Frem
SIGNED a two-year deal last October, but how long can this bloke hang around at the Magpies in search of a regular game?
St Kilda was keen as part of the Luke Ball talks in 2009 and Fremantle wanted him for Chris Tarrant last year.
Surely, this time around, Goldsack may put his hand up for a move to make his mark elsewhere. He is 24 and looks capable of playing 200 games - but he needs to get a hurry on.
Goldsack has currency after playing in the 2010 premiership and is versatile, desperate and quick.
Clubs will again be queuing up and the Pies may be seduced by a genuine offer - perhaps an early second-round draft pick.
Hamish McIntosh (NM)
Potential new homes: Rich
THE Kangaroos can forever talk about McIntosh going nowhere, but what if someone offers two first-round picks or a gun and an early pick to get a deal done?
McIntosh is not out of contract until 2013, but the Tigers surely are swirling around.
Why would a player of his calibre want to hang around as insurance for Todd Goldstein when there is a prime No. 1 spot up for grabs?It is unlikely, but like Brian Lake leaving the Dogs, you can't rule it out completely.
Ryan Schoenmakers (Haw)
Potential new home: Rich
WITH Ben Stratton and Stephen Gilham back next year, where does Schoenmakers fit at the Hawks?
They still need defensive gorillas and were interested in Brian Lake last time he was out of contract, but Schoenmakers doesn't fit that brief.
The South Australian, pick No. 16 in the 2008 draft, only seems a back-up to others and has been hobbled by a foot injury.
Schoenmakers' decision making can be shaky, but he has size and obvious potential as a key defender.
Richmond is crying out for another tall reinforcement down back ... do the Tigers go on a poaching mission?
Matthew Bate (Melb)
Potential new homes: Rich, WB, GWS
THE Demons' hierarchy has made it clear Bate is not in the club's best 22.
He wasn't there at the start of the year, only got his chance as injuries and poor team form hit - and then was swiftly dropped.
Dare we say it, Liam Jurrah has been lucky to hold his spot ahead of him.
Bate is hard-leading and as honest as they come. He also has a booming left foot.
The fact Bate needs a new club stands out almost as much as the bloke's ginger hair.
No doubt, he is already looking at options.
Out of contract at the end of the year, he has the option of the pre-season draft - but the Demons may deal to get something in return.
Bate would have currency at Richmond as a foil for Jack Riewoldt.
At the Western Bulldogs, where Barry Hall is almost certainly in his final year, Jarrad Grant and Liam Jones are still developing. Bate's hard body might help ... he's a junior version of Mitch Hahn.
Trent West (Geel)
Potential new home: Rich
ANOTHER who needs to move for an opportunity given Brad Ottens, Nathan Vardy, Tom Hawkins and Dawson Simpson are in front of him. Might be a cheap option for the Tigers.
Jackson Trengove (Port)
Potential new home: Rich
HAS put off contract talks until the end of the year, with speculation the Tigers are keen to snare him.
At 197cm, he may be more of a key position prospect than the ruck monster Damien Hardwick needs, though.
And the rest.....
Mark Blake (Geel)
Potential new home: GWS
HAS already had finger surgery to prepare for next year.
Might as well clear out his locker now, because he needs to move on from the Cattery. Surely, a deal is already in motion.
Despite having his knockers, Blake has currency as a tap ruckman. Out of contract, he can just walk to GWS.
Cale Morton (Melb)
Potential new home: GWS, Gold Coast
IS showing all the hallmarks of a player who needs a fresh start somewhere else - and there will be suitors sniffing around.
The 2007 No.4 draft pick has obvious talents, but has had bad luck with injury and a chequered past with the Demons match committee.
On more than one occasion, he has been banished to Casey and undoubtedly he is better than that.
He is out of contract and all talks have been put off until the end of the year, only fuelling speculation.
GWS is a likely option, but don't rule out Gold Coast given its list builder Scott Clayton was in love with Morton as a teenager and wanted him at the Western Bulldogs in a past life.
Would the Dees accept an early second-round pick for him?
Ricky Dyson (Ess)
Potential new home: St Kilda
HAS disappeared off the radar completely at Windy Hill this year, failing to cut it for a senior game.
But at 25, with 96 games to his name, he has appeal to others as an outside line-breaker - even if he has questionable decision making.
St Kilda traded for Farren Ray and it worked. With Saints coach Ross Lyon looking for speed, would he roll the dice again? A bottom-end pick would get it done.
Brock McLean (Carl)
Potential new home: GWS
COULD McLean be this year's Campbell Brown?
McLean is a battle-hardened leader, who could have an impact on and off the field at GWS in year one, despite his pace deficiencies.
The blue-chip clubman has a year to run on a contract at Carlton, but why wouldn't he seek other opportunities if the match committee won't play him.
Others such as David Ellard and Ed Curnow have flown past him.
Carlton gave up pick 11 for him originally. Would they now take a fourth rounder in return?
Dylan Addison (WB)
Potential new homes: Syd, GWS
HE has a big body and the attack on the footy can not be questioned - but foot skills and pace let him down.
The Dogs have a bevy of blue-collar players who are not overly quick so it is tough to win a spot.
But Addison would undoubtedly have currency, on his ability to play strong tagging role at the very least.
As a Sydney boy, the Swans and GWS might come knocking.
A trade would be a win-win and it just looks like he needs to move.
Xavier Ellis (Haw)
Potential new homes: GWS, St Kilda
ELLIS had 28 disposals and 14 marks in the 2008 Grand Final as a 20-year-old.
Who would have thought that three years on, and now in his prime, that Ellis would be battling to be in Hawthorn's best 22?
Sadly, unlike most on this potential trade list, Ellis just hasn't had a clear run at it.
Time after time, niggles with his body have let him down and the Hawks right now are contemplating the best way to get him right for the business end of the season.
Regardless of nagging injuries, is it time for the No. 3 pick in the 2005 draft to search for a fresh home considering there is so much depth in the Hawks' midfield and there are so many kids pushing up?
Maybe it would be a win-win if Ellis went somewhere else for something in the region of an early-to-mid second-round pick.
If GWS is looking for someone to slot in and play 22 games in year one, Ellis could be it if the current rehab process at the Hawks is successful.
He has a sharp footy brain and is a respected club man. Surely, others outside Blacktown would come knocking, too.
Brent Prismall (Ess)
Potential new home: GWS
MATTHEW Knights went all out to snare Prismall at the end of 2008, luring him from Geelong with a three-year deal even though he had only just started recovering from a serious knee injury.
Yet last year, as Knights fought for his job, Prismall strangely fell out of favour.
He has still struggled to be a regular under the new James Hird regime - even with former Cats Mark Thompson and Brendan McCartney at Windy Hill.
Word is, the Bombers have been concerned about Prismall's lack of pace and kicking prowess. It seems a tough call from the outside and he showed a bit against his old team on Saturday night - despite physical pressure.
Prismall is only human. If he finds himself back at Bendigo again this year, he would be thinking about club No. 3 and a fresh opportunity.
GWS would be his best hope.
Josh Hill (WB)
Potential new homes: GWS, Haw, St Kilda
APPEARS to have played his last game for the club, with poor body language while manning the mark against Geelong in Round 11 the final dagger.
Out of contract at the end of the season, it looks certain he will be either delisted or traded.
Hill almost landed at Hawthorn in a trade deal last year, but it fell over. This time around, Hill has options to move on without contractual constraints.
His currency has dropped, but someone will take him.
The Hawks may try to get him for nothing via the pre-season draft, but GWS might swoop.
St Kilda might see him as a "third tall" option up forward. He can take an overhead mark and would add another dimension to a forward line that has become a little predictable.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/which-players-couldl-be-trading-places/story-e6frepf6-1226088308539
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I reckon Bate from Melb would be close to a deadset cert :rollin :rollin
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shemakers, yeah right, so we want another thursfield at the club :lol
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I reckon Bate from Melb would be close to a deadset cert :rollin :rollin
you're sick WP
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anyone know anything about trent west? The age is about right for a ruckmen to start coming good for a big man
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I reckon Bate from Melb would be close to a deadset cert :rollin :rollin
It would be pretty frustrating if we had to give up a top pick for him, considering he went at pick 13 in the 2004 draft, one pick after Danny Meyer at 12 to Richmond :banghead
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I reckon Bate from Melb would be close to a deadset cert :rollin :rollin
Another Craig Cameron special.
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THIS has a touch of the Michael Voss's about it. Most of these blokes are just average AFL footballers who wont help us one Iota.
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Where do they come up with this tripe ? Potential new home ? Aww geez I dunno let's just say Richmond or GWS.
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Brian Lake (WB)
Rivals would have to dish up something special though - perhaps even two first-round picks - to make the Dogs waiver after such a strong public commitment.
LOL. Um, yeah. Two 1st rounders for a 29yo injured has been. Can see clubs lining up for that one!!
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I reckon Bate from Melb would be close to a deadset cert :rollin :rollin
Another Craig Cameron special.
:jump :jump
:outtahere :outtahere
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Scattergun approach to clubs. Shows the author has NFI
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On Trend West he is down the picking order at the cats how is he tho as a player??
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Out-of-contract Jack Trengove split between Port Adelaide and home
Jon Ralph and Mark Stevens
From: Herald Sun
July 07, 2011
PORT Adelaide star Jackson Trengove is torn between loyalty to his club and the huge pull of family and friends in Melbourne, according to his manager.
Out-of-contract Trengove has put off talks until the end of the season and manager Tom Petroro admits he is thinking seriously about a return home.
A raft of Melbourne clubs, including Richmond, would be keen to secure the versatile 20-year-old, who can play as a key tall or a second ruckman.
Stride Sports Management's Petroro told Superfooty's Front & Square that Trengove would be forced to decide between his head and heart.
"Jackson has come and spoken for himself. He is indebted to Port Adelaide for what they have done for him, but he's very close to his family back here. He is in two minds as to what he should do," he said.
Petroro said Trengove would not be pressured into a decision.
"He's in their leadership group and he's got a great family back here, and he misses his schoolmates. He's got a massive heart and he loves his family, but there is a fair element of his heart in Port Adelaide too."
Port Adelaide coach Matthew Primus admitted yesterday he was unsure of Trengove's future.
"We'll continue to work with him and hopefully we'll sign him up soon," Primus said.
"But we all know it's a different environment out there now with players coming out of contract."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/out-of-contract-jack-trengove-split-between-port-adelaide-and-home/story-e6frf9jf-1226089303205
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The club must have a decent crack at nabbing this kid, at 20 years old he is the way forward.
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Greg Denham on SEN a couple of minutes ago says that Trengove will probably go to the Bombers.
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Maybe the club should just keep its powder dry for free agency. Why overpay now when in a short while the cost will be significantly lesser. 8)
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Another one from Damian Barrett tonight.
Richmond is after a ruckman and they've dropped Andrew Browne tonight. They've set their sights on Hamish McIntosh from the Kangaroos who is contracted next year.
Brayshaw said McIntosh is contracted until 2014 so that's the end of it. Barrett responded "well we'll see how we go".
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Speculation its July FFS.
We are a perceived easy target and the media for all its worth are milking us for our poor rucks.
If Ty Esler was available there'd be a story about a reuniting of some sort.
Whatever happens would not pay overs for him. Not to Naught Melbourne not to anyone.
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Pathetic "story" on a slow news day
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Only replying to who the article thinks we may be interested in.
Brian Lake you have to kidding. Good player does not fit our demographic. Age nor price. Plus injury and mental side may be shot. Will bring baggage. Pass
Goldsack. Will not trade with Collingwood. Pies will want high pick for premiership player etc. Not worth the hassle the debate or the seduction. Let him join Jack Anthony at Freo.
Trengove I will entertain the idea at the right price.
Trent West pass.
Bate. Oh please no Cameron stop turning the RFC into a half way house for washed up Melbourne fringe players.
McIntosh for the right price but only the right price. Mid range pick or a host of our finest fire sale items ala Jon Hay Nathan Thompson circa 2006 lets say McGuane for starters maybe a few others.
Schoenmakers. No don't get seduced by the Hawks relative success in their selection of kids recently. Would rather have someone like Savage or Bruest.
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I am looking forward the "speculation" that we are targeting Dean Cox and Darren Jolly ::)
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I am looking forward the "speculation" that we are targeting Dean Cox and Darren Jolly ::)
We should have targeted Jolly before he went to Sydney( Not Collingwood mind you, but Sydney).
But instead, our recruiting geniuses at the time thought that Troy Simmonds was a more viable long-term option :banghead
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Bit harsh I reckon lads.
McIntosh is the best option for a proven ruckman in the right age group that might be available I reckon and if we are not into him then Hartley and Cameron are not doing their jobs.
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I am looking forward the "speculation" that we are targeting Dean Cox and Darren Jolly ::)
We should have targeted Jolly before he went to Sydney( Not Collingwood mind you, but Sydney).
But instead, our recruiting geniuses at the time thought that Troy Simmonds was a more viable long-term option :banghead
Simmonds was the right fit and good pick up at the time for what he cost us. And I'd argue outside his last 2 seasons was a good player for us. He was what 25yo when we got him, with Staff coming to the end of his career... was certianly not a trade mistake IMHO
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Straight swap for Foley.
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Mark Blake's manager has been in touch with other clubs. The AFL site article mentions us of course in needing a starting ruckman.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/118108/default.aspx
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Only replying to who the article thinks we may be interested in.
Brian Lake you have to kidding. Good player does not fit our demographic. Age nor price. Plus injury and mental side may be shot. Will bring baggage. Pass
Goldsack. Will not trade with Collingwood. Pies will want high pick for premiership player etc. Not worth the hassle the debate or the seduction. Let him join Jack Anthony at Freo.
Trengove I will entertain the idea at the right price.
Trent West pass.
Bate. Oh please no Cameron stop turning the RFC into a half way house for washed up Melbourne fringe players.
McIntosh for the right price but only the right price. Mid range pick or a host of our finest fire sale items ala Jon Hay Nathan Thompson circa 2006 lets say McGuane for starters maybe a few others.
Schoenmakers. No don't get seduced by the Hawks relative success in their selection of kids recently. Would rather have someone like Savage or Bruest.
Like it tucker :thumbsup
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I wouldnt take any of them to RFC for 2012. :help
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why pass on trent west Tucker?
what can you tell us about him?
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Asking price will be too much especially considering that his contract runs out end of 2013!!
Pass
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No thanx from me as well. Target must be someone around 23-24 yo.
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No thanx from me as well. Target must be someone around 23-24 yo.
Yeah but who?
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The more I think about it, the more inclined I am to pass on trading for a ruckman at seasons end. Unless we pick up a Trent West type for free then we should absolutely not look at trading the picks that will be needed to secure a ruckman..
..and we better not use the Tambling compensation pick bc 2012 is touted already as the greatest draft batch ever seen. We're on track to have 2 picks inside top 20 and 3 inside 30. Use it wisely.
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Jon Griffen would be a good fit. Very good fit
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except for the fact he left adelaide to go home....
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I am looking forward the "speculation" that we are targeting Dean Cox and Darren Jolly ::)
No, No, surely you mean Mathew Kreuser Mr Powell, good mates with Trent an all, wink wink
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I am looking forward the "speculation" that we are targeting Dean Cox and Darren Jolly ::)
We should have targeted Jolly before he went to Sydney( Not Collingwood mind you, but Sydney).
But instead, our recruiting geniuses at the time thought that Troy Simmonds was a more viable long-term option :banghead
Simmonds was the right fit and good pick up at the time for what he cost us. And I'd argue outside his last 2 seasons was a good player for us. He was what 25yo when we got him, with Staff coming to the end of his career... was certianly not a trade mistake IMHO
i actually thought we got simmonds because we just traded ottens. yes stafford was near the end i thought him near the end in 01.we took a 25 yr old injury prone tap ruckman in knobel as cover for stafford.
simmonds was a very solid citizen and injury killed him at the end. for what we paid we got a good deal. think we drafted him as a 26 yr old so he was turning 27 first yr with us.knobel was 24 but was a risk because of his body, worth taking a punt on when one considers we took him in the psd.
sheesh hamish mcintosh would take him in a heart beat but only in a player trade, to me our early picks are sacrosanct and we really need to learn the lessons of the past.what a massive upgrade he would be on what we have he would be. seems to me mcintosh is very unlikely to be coming to richmond because what good players we do have we need to build on, in a player swap nm would want a high quality player and we have too few to be trading them away, we need to build on what we have not tread water.and of course we still need to heavily invest in the nd with as many early picks as we can.
anyone wonder why we have developed so few ruckmen over the yrs. well its simple we refuse to adequately invest in them with out looking it up but id say we would be lucky to have taken 10 ruckmen in the actual nd since its inception in 86. you cant develop them if you dont have em on your list to begin with. and if you only trade for oldies they dont last long or rookie them and the rookies usually show why they were rookied in the first place and dont last long.
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Now that would be sweet, on so many fronts.
I am looking forward the "speculation" that we are targeting Dean Cox and Darren Jolly ::)
No, No, surely you mean Mathew Kreuser Mr Powell, good mates with Trent an all, wink wink
[drifts off into dreamland]
now that would be sweet - on so many fronts.
[/back to reality]
i think i just got an insight to how those perpetually waiting for the second coming must feel.
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except for the fact he left adelaide to go home....
Make the SOB an offer he can't refuse.
2.8mill over 4 years, and a free pass to eureka tower VIP club
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Nup. Nup. I won't have this. Get back on topic or frigg off.
That Lobbe dude from Port looks alright. Should track his progress for the rest of the season...although Brogan is retiring, so Port would be keen to keep him
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why pass on trent west Tucker?
what can you tell us about him?
The kid turns 24 in October and has played about a dozen games in his time at Geelong.
Although I haven't seen the kid play he was been well down the pecking order at Geelong for a while behind
Ottens Blake and now with Mumford gone to Sydney Vardy has overtaken him also in the pecking order.
I'll be honest my assessment is based on the aforementioned details which worries me about the kids ability but if he comes for free in the pre season draft I'll take him b/c right now there would not be many running around worse than the two boys on our list but only if he costs nothing and he is the best player going round at the time.
What worries me is the club is prone to make silly decisions in the past and with our weakness in the ruck and the media all over this like a maggot on some cow dung I don't want to see us paying overs for a ruck that may not be the answer in the long run or deprive us of something in the draft merely to half address an issue that needs attention but may not have an answer right now. I want the best for the club and at the moment I don't think what's available may be the best fit for our team at this stage of my thinking.
Just my take champ. :thumbsup
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Furthermore Al, in a team like Geelong who has an A+++ midfield a bloke like Blake who has been a regular fixture 2007-10 can be carried despite his I guess lack of presence around the ground.
If a bloke like West who got a few games in 2009 when Ottens was touch and go on whether he would come back prior to finals can't break into the side now that Blake is on the outer and Mumford has left the club it rings my alarm bells. Vardy who is in the side now can play forward as well just like Ottens.
Is the kid unlucky with injury? I don't know don't watch the VFL unless its Coburg just look at the scores.
Has the kid had a falling out with Bomber and now Scotty?
Is the kid there for insurance?
Is he just a lumbering ruckman who just is that with no other attributes?
Or is the kid just not good enough.
Unless he comes for free I'll pass. Too many questions and not enough answers for a kid who does fit the age requirement for recruitment to the club but possibly not the criteria of ability.
Helps to talk about it better when you are watching the Cats on the television also. :thumbsup
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Power playing hard ball on Trengove
AAP
From: Herald Sun
July 09, 2011
PORT Adelaide coach Matthew Primus has embarked on an aggressive campaign to stop emerging defender Jackson Trengove returning to Victoria.
Trengove, 20, out of contract at season's end, has several Victorian clubs pitching lucrative offers.
Richmond is believed to be the leading contender.
"He has just got a decision to make between playing for this club and getting back to his family," Primus said yesterday. "Hopefully we will be in his face about that and turn him around."
Port wanted Trengove's signature on a new deal long ago, but he has put off contract talks until near the end of the season.
Primus hinted Port could play hard ball with Trengove.
"All we can do is show Jackson what we're planning next year and the year after that and where he fits into all that," he said.
"We hope we can sign him sooner rather than later."
Port also fears Alipate Carlile could leave, with new entity Greater Western Sydney keen on luring the 24-year-old full-back.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/power-playing-hard-ball-on-trengove/story-e6frf9jf-1226091029237
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From the quotes in that article it doesn't sound like Primus is playing hard ball. Sounds to me he is being honest and he knows the returning home factor is going to be hard one to tackle to keep him.
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all good, cheers tucker.
The questions you raise are really the pertinent questions and hopefully hartley has got his fingers on the pulse in regard to the answers.
He could very well be a hidden gem who just needs a decent chance, something circumstances could be preventing him from getting at the moment, although as you say with vardy jumping ahead of him you do have to wonder.
Just on Vardy, in the last couple of weeks he hasnt done a real lot, but in the little i have seen he has shown glimpses of a tool set that i havn't seen in gus or Browne. :(
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That is why I think we can offload a player to Port in a straight swap for swap with them to attain Trengove's services.
Although disappointed Primus won't stand in his way and the relationship between the clubs during the last few drafts has been good. Port would be happy with Schulz. That may work in our favour as well as the fact that Dimma is also a premiership player at the club.
I've heard Essendon are interested also. Fact that they historically are more difficult to trade with may also have us out in front. Nash also hasn't set the world on fire at Alberton. Furthermore Hird rejected an offer to join Chocco at Port which some insiders still at the club may have a long memory about.
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Power playing hard ball on Trengove
AAP
From: Herald Sun
July 09, 2011
PORT Adelaide coach Matthew Primus has embarked on an aggressive campaign to stop emerging defender Jackson Trengove returning to Victoria.
Trengove, 20, out of contract at season's end, has several Victorian clubs pitching lucrative offers.
Richmond is believed to be the leading contender.
"He has just got a decision to make between playing for this club and getting back to his family," Primus said yesterday. "Hopefully we will be in his face about that and turn him around."
Port wanted Trengove's signature on a new deal long ago, but he has put off contract talks until near the end of the season.
Primus hinted Port could play hard ball with Trengove.
"All we can do is show Jackson what we're planning next year and the year after that and where he fits into all that," he said.
"We hope we can sign him sooner rather than later."
Port also fears Alipate Carlile could leave, with new entity Greater Western Sydney keen on luring the 24-year-old full-back.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/power-playing-hard-ball-on-trengove/story-e6frf9jf-1226091029237
Should we be looking at Carlile instead? I rate him as a full back and is only 24. Trengove looks like he would fall to bits if all that tape he wears falls off. :lol Although saying that, wouldnt be to disappointed if we got him to the club. But if we do get him it should be for a key back role not as a ruckmen. We need a 100% full time first ruck not a bits and pieces type.
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Carlisle is a better option for us than Trengove is.
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We better be very careful with the way we use our FTF money.
Media bumping up players just so they can blood suck us dry.
I'm a wakeup to these types.
J bloody B.
G bloody Lyon.
Ferret Barret.
GAGF. :laugh: ;D
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I think our back-line is not as bad as it seems. Rance is developing and I have faith he will be a good player, Grimes looked very impressive and did really well despite being about 10 kilos below what he needs to be. Also the club seems to really rate Astbury have faith in him. Two of those have been out injured but the sooner we get 50 games into them the better we will be. Trengove has hardly shown anything more then this boys have.
I think our priority should be a ruck-man. We should throw everything at Hamish McIntosh or Mitch Clarke. Then go into the draft and get another gun midfielder and another developing defender.
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Carlisle is a better option for us than Trengove is.
If we as much have a sniff at Carlisle,Adolf will come in with his million dollar cheque book and put down the red carpet for GWS.
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Carlisle is already signed to GWS
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Carlisle is a better option for us than Trengove is.
Agree Ramps but as gerks said it sounds like Carlisle is already off to GWS.
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Can't find who said it, but we should definitely be keeping a very close eye on Gold Coast with the number of young rucks they have. Might be able to snare someone with some good potential relatively cheaply as there will be high competition. Need to watch:
Daniel Gorringe (was pick 10)
Tom Hickey
Tom Nicholls
Rory Thompson
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Got his hand trode on today.
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Got his hand trode on today.
Yep with a lump the size of a golfball on his wrist. On the news tonight they showed Trengove holding his arm as he came off.
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Carlisle has been pathetic all year. Had more goals kicked on him than any other defender in 2010 as well. Think he just CBF with Port this year and is just waiting for the end of the season so he can pee off to GWS
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Got his hand trode on today.
Getting troded is a bitch ;D
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Got his hand trode on today.
Getting troded is a bitch ;D
A clever witty response that doesn't resort to schoolboy humour.
Well done.
:thumbsup
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Got his hand trode on today.
Yep with a lump the size of a golfball on his wrist. On the news tonight they showed Trengove holding his arm as he came off.
Only worth a 4th rounder now. ;D
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Can't find who said it, but we should definitely be keeping a very close eye on Gold Coast with the number of young rucks they have. Might be able to snare someone with some good potential relatively cheaply as there will be high competition. Need to watch:
Daniel Gorringe (was pick 10)
Tom Hickey
Tom Nicholls
Rory Thompson
like your thinking, Jezza.
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To get a youngster in the ruck we need an established one to mentor him also.
Unfortunantely we have neither at this stage.
That's a start Jezza but he will be raw and will need protection from a bigger more established ruckman.
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Sure i would love to get a kid of Trengove's ability to our club due to us just having to many sub standard AFL players but i just hope we don't pay overs for him. Just remember we have drafted a fair few KPP backs in the last couple of years with pretty high picks. Rance, Grimes, Astbury, Gourdis, and even Post to a lesser degree. We all talk about us in a rebuild but we haven't really given this crop of kids time to develop. Unlike some on hear, i don't think our backline is as bad as we think. Add to that list, Thursfield, McGaune and Moore and we have enough tall backs for a season or two while hoping the others come on. Injuries haven't helped either.
Would concentrate all our efforts on getting a decent ruckmen..... And a small forward, like a Gartlett or Betts type. Need to get a few "free goals" sometimes. :thumbsup
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Tall order for Tigers
Jon Pierik
July 12, 2011
RICHMOND will inquire about Carlton's Shaun Hampson and Melbourne youngster Max Gawn to help ease its ruck woes but has all but ruled out trading for unwanted Cat Mark Blake or Lion Mitch Clark and is unlikely to chase Kangaroo Hamish McIntosh.
The Tigers' need for a quality ruckman has been reinforced in recent weeks after the likes of Sydney's Mark Seaby, Port Adelaide's Dean Brogan, Carlton's Robert Warnock and Matthew Kreuzer and Essendon pair David Hille and Paddy Ryder dominated at the stoppages during the team's form slump.
The Tigers need help as Andrew Browne, out injured, can only play on the ball, while Angus Graham continues to struggle. Ty Vickery is seen more as a key forward and back-up ruckman.
The Tigers sit near the foot of the ladder in terms of hitouts to advantage differential, scores from clearances differential and hitout differential against direct opponents.
League recruiters and player agents have told The Age the Tigers are after a ruckman in the 22-24 year-old-age group who can also play as a forward, is of the right character and is not yet chasing major dollars.
The young age group, at this stage, is important as it endorses the long-term plan of coach Damien Hardwick and the club.
Hampson, 23, fits this category. He has played nine matches this season, the last in round 13 when he hurt his knee, and is locked in a battle with Warnock, just ahead in the pecking order, to partner the mobile Kreuzer. Hampson's management is understood to be willing to accept offers from rival clubs. Gawn, however, is only 19 but still sits in the developing bracket. He has played three matches this year and is seen as a promising ruck-forward.
The Demons are keen to retain him because of his size - at 208 centimetres he is three centimetres shorter than Aaron Sandilands but has a more rounded game at this stage of his career than his Fremantle counterpart had.
It appears the Tigers have all but ruled out luring the out-of-contract Mitch Clark from Brisbane.
Industry sources suggest Clark wants upwards of $600,000 per season. While the Tigers could find room under the salary cap, his deal could make him the highest paid player at Punt Road and impact on team chemistry. And he has been linked with Greater Western Sydney.
The Tigers and rival clubs are uncertain whether Port Adelaide's highly rated bigman Jackson Trengove can be the No. 1 bigman or a genuine backman. Trengove is off contract and considering a return to Melbourne. But recruiters have questioned his pace and kicking.
Hardwick emphasised the need to retain the youth policy after a 39-point loss to Essendon on Saturday night. ''We've just got to keep playing these players to get us where we need to go,'' he said. ''The easy thing is to top up with talent that's not quite there.
''We've just to make sure these players play as much footy together as humanly possible.''
Blake, stuck on 99 matches, recovering from finger surgery and unlikely to play again for the Cats, does not figure in Richmond's plans as he can't play as a forward. While he would be valuable purely at stoppage, the Tigers know more is needed. Geelong coach Chris Scott last week said it was understandable if Blake began to look elsewhere.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tall-order-for-tigers-20110711-1has9.html#ixzz1RoAMkkL9
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Herald-Sun says we're going to make a big play for McIntosh while the Age says we're unlikely to make a bid for him. Don't you just love media reporting :wallywink.
While the club is adamant the duo can work in tandem, Richmond is expected to make a major play for McIntosh.
The 203cm utility, contracted to North until 2013, is set to make his comeback from achilles surgery against Brisbane in a fortnight.
McIntosh played his third game in the VFL at the weekend, collecting 46 hitouts.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/north-melbourne-adds-utility-majak-daw-to-equation/story-e6frf9jf-1226092625360)
The Tigers have been linked with McIntosh, who is contracted until the end of 2013. However, both clubs deny interest has been shown. The development of fellow Kangaroos' ruckman Todd Goldstein could mean McIntosh becomes trade bait. McIntosh can play as a forward but his recent injury woes and his age - 26 - mean the Tigers are unlikely to put in a bid.
The Age link (http://)http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tall-order-for-tigers-20110711-1has9.html
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Jon Griffen would be a good fit. Very good fit
that's all good and well but we're talking about the ruck position
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..has all but ruled out trading for unwanted Cat Mark Blake
Thank stuff for that
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Jon Griffen would be a good fit. Very good fit
that's all good and well but we're talking about the ruck position
Ur thinking of the wrong Griffen Mr Ox :thumbsup
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Jon Griffen would be a good fit. Very good fit
that's all good and well but we're talking about the ruck position
Ur thinking of the wrong Griffen Mr Ox :thumbsup
He might be referring to a different type of "fit"
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A big tick for Hardwick. This is correct strategy IMHO.
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Hampson.
Strange ruck division down at the Blues. They had Jacobs who I rated highly, traded to Crows.
Warnock and Kruezer clearly the best 2.
Hampson always seemed a cheap back up option that would never really make it.
I strangely see it as a good option although at 23, will he be much better than Gus? I want a dominant ruckman. Not a maybe.
I like Gawn. Don't think Dees will let him go.
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..has all but ruled out trading for unwanted Cat Mark Blake
Thank eff for that
here here
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I hope we stay away from McIntosh. stuff giving anything to Norf
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Hampson can't play forward so he doesn't fit our requirements.
Can't mark, can't kick straight.
Next.
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Dawson Simpson from Geelong
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Simpson might play this week with Ottens out. Be good to have another look at him.
Zac Clarke from Freo looks ideal, athletic 203cm Ruck/Forward, 21-23 age bracket, Victorian, can't get a gig behind Sandi, Griffen, Bradley.
Is contracted so a deal will need to be done.
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Hampson? Give me a break.
Does anyone else think a certain staff member might have been less than successful with the ladies over the journey and therefore tries to recruit anyone with a hot Mrs?
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Snip! Stick to the topic ppl.
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Sure i would love to get a kid of Trengove's ability to our club due to us just having to many sub standard AFL players but i just hope we don't pay overs for him. Just remember we have drafted a fair few KPP backs in the last couple of years with pretty high picks. Rance, Grimes, Astbury, Gourdis, and even Post to a lesser degree. We all talk about us in a rebuild but we haven't really given this crop of kids time to develop. Unlike some on hear, i don't think our backline is as bad as we think. Add to that list, Thursfield, McGaune and Moore and we have enough tall backs for a season or two while hoping the others come on. Injuries haven't helped either.
Would concentrate all our efforts on getting a decent ruckmen..... And a small forward, like a Gartlett or Betts type. Need to get a few "free goals" sometimes. :thumbsup
I agree with you here big tone regarding the state of our backline. I would love to add Trengrove or another young talented backman to our list but not at expense of an early pick. A ruckman is crucial but again, not if it means morgaging our future. In a years time, free agency will be upon us and I feel we will be far more likely to secure a 25 year old ruckman for nothing than spending big a year earlier and getting a ruckman of a similar age.
I don't think small forwards exist anymore. You have midfielders who drift back to crumb or rest in the forwardline and crumb but I can't think of any stay at home crumbers anymore. Even Milne spends much of his game up the ground and running back into the forwardline now days.
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Hampson? Give me a break.
Does anyone else think a certain staff member might have been less than successful with the ladies over the journey and therefore tries to recruit anyone with a hot Mrs?
He is no longer with Megan Gale so Megan won't be replacing Pia in the glamour stakes at Punt Rd I wouldn't think.
Apparently Shane Edwards is a monty for the Miss Richmond beauty paegent 2011. The frock worn on Saturday night is still turning heads.
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He is no longer with Megan Gale so Megan won't be replacing Pia in the glamour stakes at Punt Rd I wouldn't think.
He was with her on Sunday at Ethiad. Had to buy an extra seat for the bale of hay.
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not even the clap?
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:lol
Nice one. Give them the clap, the itch, hades-herpes an a finger up the jacksy just for good measure
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Tigers aim to be major AFL traders
Sam Lienert
WWOS.Ninemsn
Tue Jul 12 2011
Richmond plan to be major players in this year's AFL trade period and are already developing a scheme to capitalise on the advent of free agency a year later.
The Tigers' struggles in the ruck and key defensive posts this season have highlighted some holes in their playing stocks.
And football general manager Craig Cameron said Richmond, who last year recruited Shaun Grigg from Carlton and Bachar Houli from Essendon, will again seek to fill deficiencies with AFL-experienced talent.
"We will be active and very targeted in the trade (period) this year," Cameron told the club's website.
"And, we will be looking at every opportunity to improve the list."
Cameron said that could include trading for one of the 17-year-old players which expansion club Greater Western Sydney can access, but then must trade on, under their establishment concessions.
Cameron also said Tigers' list manager Blair Hartley is already planning for the introduction of free agency at the end of the 2012 season, which will make it easier for AFL players with eight years or more of service to switch clubs.
"(Hartley) is writing a free-agency strategy for the club that will encompass the next three years," Cameron said.
"We are mindful that free agency starts in 2012 and that must be part of our long-term planning."
Cameron acknowledged Richmond's defence needs to be strengthened.
But he notes that long-term injuries to emerging key defenders Dylan Grimes and David Astbury and the more experienced Kelvin Moore make that issue seem more severe than it is.
"We will be on the lookout to bolster our defence, but we must ensure that we allow our younger tall backs to develop," he said.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8272114
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Here's the article on the RFC website as well......
Tiger talent hunt
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 12 Jul, 2011
Richmond plans to be a major player in this year’s trade period.
The Tigers are fully aware of the holes that exist on their current playing list, and are hell-bent on filling them.
“There are a number of areas we need to bolster in the off-season, and we will be looking to improve our list through the trade period and then the draft,” said Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Craig Cameron.
“We will be active and very targeted in the trade this year. And, we will be looking at every opportunity to improve the list, including the tradeable under-17 (Greater Western Sydney) players. The final list of eight hasn’t been publicised as yet, but once we’re aware of the players, we will assess them and speak to GWS.
“As per last year, (RFC List Manager) Blair Hartley is extremely well prepared for the upcoming trade period and is writing a free-agency strategy for the Club that will encompass the next three years. We are mindful that free agency starts in 2012 and that must be part of our long-term planning.”
Richmond has also been linked with recruiting a strong-bodied key defender, but Cameron is wary of not stifling the development of the several young, tall backmen within the playing group.
“We think we have a number of young tall defenders that will develop into good AFL footballers. Injuries to Grimes, Astbury and Moore (even though he is older) have stretched us in this area. We will be on the lookout to bolster our defence, but we must ensure that we allow our younger tall backs to develop,” he said.
The Tigers also will continue to scour state leagues throughout Australia for suitable players, who can help bolster their depth of talent.
“Given the relative shallowness of this year’s draft pool, our recruiters have spent a lot of time looking at various state leagues (VFL, SANFL & WAFL), to find potential mature-aged players,” Cameron said.
“If there are any there they consider of AFL quality, I’m sure we will draft some.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/118375/default.aspx
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shut up Helmut
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RECRUITING Average footballers means squat. And these articles are a waste of time as well. :help
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He is no longer with Megan Gale so Megan won't be replacing Pia in the glamour stakes at Punt Rd I wouldn't think.
He was with her on Sunday at Ethiad. Had to buy an extra seat for the bale of hay.
In Megans defense, both would allow themselves to be chewed on
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I like it Super! :thumbsup
Give em a second I reckon
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lol @ big noting and anouncing our intentions. Just STFU and crow about it AFTER YOU GET IT DONE. In the interim anounce your strategies to the footy world.... What a PR machine we have down at that joint
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This is the same story that came out about this time last year... :sleep
If we say we are going to be "major players" during the trade period then lets see it and stop talking it!!!!
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This is the same story that came out about this time last year... :sleep
If we say we are going to be "major players" during the trade period then lets see it and stop talking it!!!!
I agree. Lets stop talk big game and just wait till trade week and surprise us(fans) with some top notching trade.
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My idiot radar just blew up.
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Let's make RFC bleed for what its worth. That's what the other clubs are thinking.
Overprice their players at our expense while others seem to have a better way to keep things to themselves until the right time and get their deals done properly.
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Idiots. I couldn't give an eff about people writing strategies. Show me the money!
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My idiot radar just blew up.
The correct terminology is 'chodar'.
Continue on. :police:
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My idiot radar just blew up.
The correct terminology is 'chodar'.
Continue on. :police:
Just started beeping again.
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My idiot radar just blew up.
The correct terminology is 'chodar'.
Continue on. :police:
Just started beeping again.
:lol
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Give them the clap, the itch, hades-herpes an a finger up the jacksy just for good measure
So your saying we should offer them Edwards, Hislop and Jackson?
Makes sense...
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Damian Barrett saying Port's Alipate Carlisle, Jackson Trengove, John Butcher and Andrew Moore all may head back to Victoria with that club in crisis. He said with Carlisle it's not GWS but Victorian clubs interested with Richmond heading the list and ready to be big players during trade week.
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I swear the media is just throwing our name with every player whether they've actually heard it from a source or not.
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Good to see Barrett is still on the pulse. :rollin Why don't we sign him up as a recruiter. :lol
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MELBOURNE has conceded rival clubs are stalking its ruckman, but is confident it will retain its young talls next year.
First choice ruckman Mark Jamar, 27, is under contract until the end of next year, but the Demons are working feverishly to retain Stefan Martin, 24, and Max Gawn, 19, in the face of considerable interest from other clubs.
Gawn is coming off his fixed two-year contract.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/big-deals-sought-on-big-dees/story-e6frf9jf-1226094901669
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I swear the media is just throwing our name with every player whether they've actually heard it from a source or not.
Player managers are likely the ones connecting us with anyone.
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just like last year. players will be linked to us to improve their bargaining position in negotiating new contracts
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Anyone no much about Gawn?
He's behind Jamar and Martin (who has improved markedly). We could offer him some good money and the number one ruck spot.
Is nice and young and might not be too expensive.
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Anyone no much about Gawn?
He's behind Jamar and Martin (who has improved markedly). We could offer him some good money and the number one ruck spot.
Is nice and young and might not be too expensive.
I agree. Would be a nice inclusion but I feel we would need to recruit an additional ruckman of age reagrdless. Gawn is as much of a developing talent as any 19 year old ruckman and would be behind Vickery in strength and experience for quite some time meaning we would lose the luxury of playing Vickery forward.
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:lol
Nice one. Give them the clap, the itch, hades-herpes an a finger up the jacksy just for good measure
who's volunteering the digit though?
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Not sure why we'd go after Gawn. Totally undeveloped 19 yr old. We can draft one of them in the next draft if we want. One who isn't coming off a full knee reco.
We need a big , developed , experienced ruckman , preferrably one who can take a grab , to slot straight in and impact games.
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Anyone no much about Gawn?
He's behind Jamar and Martin (who has improved markedly). We could offer him some good money and the number one ruck spot.
Is nice and young and might not be too expensive.
Big, eastern european looking bastard q
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just like last year. players will be linked to us to improve their bargaining position in negotiating new contracts
Good call
This I believe Al, yet I still laugh at the deception played by those other clubs :laugh:
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whats hopoate doing these days?
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whats hopoate doing these days?
Studying to become a proctologist. :lol :rollin :lol
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whats hopoate doing these days?
:lol
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:lol
Nice one. Give them the clap, the itch, hades-herpes an a finger up the jacksy just for good measure
who's volunteering the digit though?
no one needs to volunteer. if we give them edwards hislop and jackson they will end up with the clap, the itch, hades -herpes and a finger up the jacksy and more in football terms.
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:lol
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Snip.
Back on topic thanks folks.
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A couple of years ago you'd take McIntosh but he'll be 27 next year and he's now injury prone. Definitely pass if North want a high draft pick.
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We're just being linked to everyone because the Club has said we'll be big players during trade week. So it's unlikely to happen but I'd take Carlisle over Trengove.
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Lade said, jokingly, last night that the entire competition knows that Richmond is looking for trades for a ready made ruck, outside running mid, tall defender and small forward. He said the truth might be that you trade for one, maybe two, but there is no chance that you'll be able to get the lot.
Then he joked about how much TV's ruck play had improved - given that he trained as a forward all pre-season with no ruck practice.
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:lol
Nice one. Give them the clap, the itch, hades-herpes an a finger up the jacksy just for good measure
who's volunteering the digit though?
Relton Roberts
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SEN saying Hamish McIntosh has told North he wants to stay with the Kangaroos.
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SEN saying Hamish McIntosh has told North he wants to stay with the Kangaroos.
Why would he want to come to Punt Road. :help
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Agree, after the insipid performance against GC who would want to come to the club???
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...but after north's insipid performance against the skunks, who would want to stay there?
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...but after north's insipid performance against the skunks, who would want to stay there?
:thatsgold
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...but after north's insipid performance against the skunks, who would want to stay there?
McIntosh!!!
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Damien Barret said on The Footy Show that Mitch Clark is "almost certain" to be leaving with Fremantle, Richmond and GWS the potential suitors in that order.
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Also Port coach Matthew Primus was on the Footy Show last night as well and he pretty much repeated what was reported on the AFL site yesterday about Trengove and Carlisle who we are supposedly linked to us.
PORT Adelaide coach Matt Primus says he's confident defenders Jackson Trengove and Alipate Carlile will remain at the club beyond this season after making a "sales pitch" to the out-of-contract pair last week.
Trengove, 20, has put off contract talks with the Power and is weighing up a return to Victoria to be closer to his friends and family.
Carlile, 24, has also told the club he's delayed re-signing for family reasons.
It's understood both players have attracted interest from several Melbourne-based clubs, including Richmond.
Carlile has repeatedly denied links to Greater Western Sydney, and Primus said it seemed unlikely the promising full-back would be lured to the Giants.
"[GWS] is a long way from Wangaratta," Primus said on Thursday.
"They [Carlile and Trengove] both indicated it was a little bit of family reasons more so than anything else."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/119145/default.aspx
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Damien Barret said on The Footy Show that Mitch Clark is "almost certain" to be leaving with Fremantle, Richmond and GWS the potential suitors in that order.
Is that why he can't get a trainer to come to him when he is k. oed?
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"[GWS] is a long way from Wangaratta," Primus said on Thursday.
It's a stuff load closer than Port Adelaide
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Wonder if we could get both Trengrove & Carlisle? Maybe Edwards & McGuane plus a draft pick. Would certainly shore up the defensive stocks.
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Wonder if we could get both Trengrove & Carlisle? Maybe Edwards & McGuane plus a draft pick. Would certainly shore up the defensive stocks.
Sounds good, would make it easier for Lids to come to the center
So.. Ruckman and another gorilla for the foward line :thumbsup
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Wonder if we could get both Trengrove & Carlisle? Maybe Edwards & McGuane plus a draft pick. Would certainly shore up the defensive stocks.
Where do I sign? Unfortunately it is Port who rape us at the trade table
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Wonder if we could get both Trengrove & Carlisle? Maybe Edwards & McGuane plus a draft pick. Would certainly shore up the defensive stocks.
Where do I sign? Unfortunately it is Port who rape us at the trade table
Yeh I still wish Meyer was at RFC, also 1/2 a season Schulz and broken down Rodan. Bunch of superstars.
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Wonder if we could get both Trengrove & Carlisle? Maybe Edwards & McGuane plus a draft pick. Would certainly shore up the defensive stocks.
Where do I sign? Unfortunately it is Port who rape us at the trade table
Yeh I still wish Meyer was at RFC, also 1/2 a season Schulz and broken down Rodan. Bunch of superstars.
Yep, Nason, Thomson and Farmer > Meyer, Banner, Schulz and Rodan. ;D Schulz and Rodan are good players (or at least decent, even the most ignorant Tiger nuthugger would have to admit it) and Banner will finish up being a decent player.
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Danny Meyer
The great white hope
lmao
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Scultchz is one of the worse players in the history of the VFL/AFL competiton, we could've traded him for magic beans and come away laughing.
Bloke should be deregistered for bringing the game into disrepute.
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Bloke is a gun and you know it. And it's schyltssz to you pal.
Anyway, dont go off topic man. We should offer Foley, Goose and TBR for the Giant Freak. Imagine the Giant Freak tapping it down Martos throat
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That's it. I warned you about Scroetz but you had to keep going didn't you.
Relton Roberts
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I reckon we could offer 8 players for the freak and it would still be a great deal.
Miller
White
King
Nahas
Thursfield
Hislop
Jackson
McGuane
for Sandilands.
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Demon Colin Syliva is out of contract and considering his options. Sydney and other clubs are circling.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-demon-colin-sylvia-considers-options/story-e6frf9io-1226099470801
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Something stinks at Melbourne.
I'm tipping G Lyon will be Senior Coach by 2012.
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Something stinks at Melbourne.
Aaron Davey's undies
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Demon Colin Syliva is out of contract and considering his options. Sydney and other clubs are circling.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-demon-colin-sylvia-considers-options/story-e6frf9io-1226099470801
Hope like hell they don't mention our name in any Sylvia talk.
:help
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Something stinks at Melbourne.
I'm tipping G Lyon will be Senior Coach by 2012.
I would like to see that hairy turd under the same pressure as bailey, even more hopefully :lol
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Leigh Matthews tonight on 3aw said out-of-contract Jamie Charman should go to Richmond if he wants to play every game in the ruck as at Brisbane he's behind Leuenberger and Mitch Clark.
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Leigh Matthews tonight on 3aw said out-of-contract Jamie Charman should go to Richmond if he wants to play every game in the ruck as at Brisbane he's behind Leuenberger and Mitch Clark.
LOL :lol Leigh Matthews is having a lend of everyone.
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Leigh Matthews tonight on 3aw said out-of-contract Jamie Charman should go to Richmond if he wants to play every game in the ruck as at Brisbane he's behind Leuenberger and Mitch Clark.
LOL :lol Leigh Matthews is having a lend of everyone.
he know we're dumb enough to have a look at it bc we were heavily into charman several yrs ago
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Very important. Griffin's a late out for Freo, so Zac Clarke is the only ruckman that the Dockers have tonight. Granted, it's against Hawthorn, but it'll still be interesting to see how he does as the #1 ruckman at AFL level.
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
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Leigh Matthews tonight on 3aw said out-of-contract Jamie Charman should go to Richmond if he wants to play every game in the ruck as at Brisbane he's behind Leuenberger and Mitch Clark.
used to like charman, wasnt even aware he was still listed, has been chronically injured for 2 seasons now...and would be 30 at a guess...as a PSD perhaps if he was declared fit
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Leigh Matthews tonight on 3aw said out-of-contract Jamie Charman should go to Richmond if he wants to play every game in the ruck as at Brisbane he's behind Leuenberger and Mitch Clark.
used to like charman, wasnt even aware he was still listed, has been chronically injured for 2 seasons now...and would be 30 at a guess...as a PSD perhaps if he was declared fit
Charman has only just comeback to playing at NEAFL level for the Brisbane ressies. It would be a major risk given his injury record and lack of footy over the past 2-3 years.
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
Freo have a track record of trading their future out of instand success. If the WA media get hold of a mature player for a future prospect they'll grab it.
Likely to lose Palmer for a draft pick. Freo will look to replace with a ready player. They're always active in trade week.
They lack speed in the midfield with the likes of Mundy, Barlow and Pav rotating through. Hill and Morabito the only speedsters. They'd listen to offers for Clarke if we hinted a Foley or Edwards.
Edwards + a high 3rd rounder for Clarke - maybe
Foley + Clark and compensation pick for Palmer - maybe
Freo will listen to offers, they'll want to cash in on a premiership window whilst Sandilands and Pavlich are at the helm. Post Sandi and Pav retirement is low priority which is when Clarke will be ready.
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In terms of a ruckman I would go after Dawson Simpson from Geelong because wed get him for knicks. A 3rd round pick at best. That sorts out 1 ruck role and then I'd recruit another junior ruck in the draft. If rumors are true GWS will have an extraordinary array of young talent. Just reading Adelaide forum they believe they will lose Phil Davis. He is a top quality player and will be 10 year quality CHB. Its a pity we are never in the hunt for these types of players.
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
Freo have a track record of trading their future out of instand success.
Freo will listen to offers, they'll want to cash in on a premiership window whilst Sandilands and Pavlich are at the helm. Post Sandi and Pav retirement is low priority which is when Clarke will be ready.
Thats the Freo of old.
Freo have employed a consistent development strategy where Brad Lloyd and Chris Bond have invested in the draft exclusively over the last 2-3 seasons and have only recycled via the PSD.
No Shortcuts, No more excuses RFC!
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
Freo have a track record of trading their future out of instand success.
Freo will listen to offers, they'll want to cash in on a premiership window whilst Sandilands and Pavlich are at the helm. Post Sandi and Pav retirement is low priority which is when Clarke will be ready.
Thats the Freo of old.
Freo have employed a consistent development strategy where Brad Lloyd and Chris Bond have invested in the draft exclusively over the last 2-3 seasons and have only recycled via the PSD.
No Shortcuts, No more excuses RFC!
correct darth
sorry Pope I think you're dreamin
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In terms of a ruckman I would go after Dawson Simpson from Geelong because wed get him for knicks. A 3rd round pick at best. That sorts out 1 ruck role and then I'd recruit another junior ruck in the draft. If rumors are true GWS will have an extraordinary array of young talent. Just reading Adelaide forum they believe they will lose Phil Davis. He is a top quality player and will be 10 year quality CHB. Its a pity we are never in the hunt for these types of players.
I actually agree with this.
Simpson isn't amazing but has potential and would be as good as anything we have but a bigger potential development window.
3 round seems a bit much considering he's Geelongs 4th ruckman.
Ottens, Vardy, West, Simpson.
I'd offer a player as they'd prefer someone established then extra youth to their list.
I'd straight swap a Jackson, who could fit into the cats line up as back up for Ling who struggles to play 22 games each year.
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
Freo have a track record of trading their future out of instand success.
Freo will listen to offers, they'll want to cash in on a premiership window whilst Sandilands and Pavlich are at the helm. Post Sandi and Pav retirement is low priority which is when Clarke will be ready.
Thats the Freo of old.
Freo have employed a consistent development strategy where Brad Lloyd and Chris Bond have invested in the draft exclusively over the last 2-3 seasons and have only recycled via the PSD.
No Shortcuts, No more excuses RFC!
correct darth
sorry Pope I think you're dreamin
Sorry I'm not sure I understand, what am I dreaming about?
That thinking Freo wouldn't accept a Foley <-> Clarke+pick.
Freo would absolutely do that deal. Sandilands has 4 years left as he is only 28. Griffin is also waiting in the wings who is a capable ruckman.
Pavlich and Sandi are Freos best players in their history and they will believe they can win a premiership with their current list. If they can add to that with someone of the calibre of a Foley they would do so.
I'd be interested to see if Clarke gets a game when Sandilands come back.
Freo would be negligent to turn down Foley for a guy who isn't in their 22.
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
Freo have a track record of trading their future out of instand success.
Freo will listen to offers, they'll want to cash in on a premiership window whilst Sandilands and Pavlich are at the helm. Post Sandi and Pav retirement is low priority which is when Clarke will be ready.
Thats the Freo of old.
Freo have employed a consistent development strategy where Brad Lloyd and Chris Bond have invested in the draft exclusively over the last 2-3 seasons and have only recycled via the PSD.
No Shortcuts, No more excuses RFC!
correct darth
sorry Pope I think you're dreamin
Sorry I'm not sure I understand, what am I dreaming about?
That thinking Freo wouldn't accept a Foley <-> Clarke+pick.
Freo would absolutely do that deal. Sandilands has 4 years left as he is only 28. Griffin is also waiting in the wings who is a capable ruckman.
Pavlich and Sandi are Freos best players in their history and they will believe they can win a premiership with their current list. If they can add to that with someone of the calibre of a Foley they would do so.
I'd be interested to see if Clarke gets a game when Sandilands come back.
Freo would be negligent to turn down Foley for a guy who isn't in their 22.
correct they wouldnt accept foley and a token BS draft pick in a pee weak draft for a young future ruckman. This draft is very very thin and i think afl clubs like freo know this too? :whistle
not sure why some supporters think every other club is dumb and ready to ship talent off for peanuts when they'd get a whole lot more from 16 other clubs...
Lets face it Foley right now with his history of injuury isnt worth much, theres no guarantee he'll be the player he was
Oh and about Sandilands being 28. Freo unlike Richmond understand the importance of depth in the ruck and the importance of long term planning ::), they are developing Clarke nicely and wouldnt just give him away unless they knew they had an even better prospect coming through the ranks.
No Deal
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I reckon Foley will have some currency for 2 reasons..
one he is now 12 months in from returning from injury, most would argue at his age that his mext 12 months like Rodan will improve
and secondly, there will be many clubs that take the view, particularly the top performaing ones that they could extract a better line of performance from him than RFC ever could.
At 25yo, I expect there will be a whole lot of interest
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Im of the opinion Sheedy would love to have Foley in his line up.
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Im of the opinion Sheedy would love to have Foley in his line up.
Freo already have an injury ravaged midfielder who is younger than Foley that they will prefer to keep - Barlow.
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i reakon the flag man is on the money there
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Im of the opinion Sheedy would love to have Foley in his line up.
Freo already have an injury ravaged midfielder who is younger than Foley that they will prefer to keep - Barlow.
what does sheedy have to do with freo lol? :help
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How about looking at Ivan Maric in a swap for Edwards who is from SA I believe. :-\
We need a ruckman. Adelaide have alot of ruck options and have McKernan on their list who is untried also.
May be something to look at. May not cost that much and may give us something in the ruck. Still only 25.
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maric couldbe worth a look. can he kick?
would adelaide want edwards though? surely they would have learned with tambling?
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How about looking at Ivan Maric in a swap for Edwards who is from SA I believe. :-\
We need a ruckman. Adelaide have alot of ruck options and have McKernan on their list who is untried also.
May be something to look at. May not cost that much and may give us something in the ruck. Still only 25.
id rather McKernan...is sellars any good
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How about looking at Ivan Maric in a swap for Edwards who is from SA I believe. :-\
We need a ruckman. Adelaide have alot of ruck options and have McKernan on their list who is untried also.
May be something to look at. May not cost that much and may give us something in the ruck. Still only 25.
id rather McKernan...is sellars any good
No idea BJ was watching the Showdown and just had a thought. Maric played well tonight hence I brought him up saw that he was 25 and thought it may just be worth looking at.
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held his own in the adelaide team at times and should just now be starting to play his best footy. if he's not up to it you'll know pretty quickly.
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I'm against drafting a ruckman under 2m. An athletic 203cm+ is what we need. A tall ruckman who can jump
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I'm against drafting a ruckman under 2m. An athletic 203cm+ is what we need. A tall ruckman who can jump
This :clapping
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Would have to question whether the interest in Jackson Trengove is warranted after watching him today pull out of chasing a bloke because he'd dislocated his finger - not a great look
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I'm against drafting a ruckman under 2m. An athletic 203cm+ is what we need. A tall ruckman who can jump
This :clapping
x 3
yay lets draft another bloke who hasn't got a defined position.
Dont want anyone from Port apart from Boak.
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Would have to question whether the interest in Jackson Trengove is warranted after watching him today pull out of chasing a bloke because he'd dislocated his finger - not a great look
Yeah his finger didn't look flash on the close up, arthritis for him in the future.
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Dont want anyone from Port apart from Boak.
Hartlett.
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Would have to question whether the interest in Jackson Trengove is warranted after watching him today pull out of chasing a bloke because he'd dislocated his finger - not a great look
That and his kicking action is eerily similar to Luke McGuane!!
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Hartlett maybe but IMO Boak is the only one i would trade for but even he would be too expensive so pass on all Port players, especially Trengrove.
I can see his kicking inefficiency working a treat down at Punt road.
Why waste our picks on him when free agency could deliver us someone better for free.
Trading for Trengrove could make it or break it for Hardwick
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Dont want anyone from Port apart from Boak.
Hartlett.
Hartletts legs are made from play doh
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Still think Trengove will be on our radar...one bad game doesn't change the fact that he is 20 years old and better than some of what we have at the moment.
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Still think Trengove will be on our radar...one bad game doesn't change the fact that he is 20 years old and better than some of what we have at the moment.
I've watched paid a little more attention to him over the past few since he's supposedly been on "our radar"
Have to say I haven't been impressed, kicking is ordinary, attack on the footy non existent at times, tackles don't seem to stick often enough & appears to lack intensity ............. based on that
He's a shoe in to get to Punt Road :rollin
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Still think Trengove will be on our radar...one bad game doesn't change the fact that he is 20 years old and better than some of what we have at the moment.
you should watch him closely.
Im no expert but this will be a massive mistake, unless it comes via free agency, or high draft picks, which it wont.
He is a glorified version of Ray Hall. He only looks half descent in Port colours because lets face it they are rubbish
Will it be an upgrade on mcguane, Browne, Gus. Absolutely, but with another year of rebuild and free agency looming why waste our top end picks on a risk like him.
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Prefer Carlisle from Port
Big fijian bastard
been really good up until this year, where he's been a bit down for some reason
more mature than Trengove, would be cheaper too
less upside but less risk
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Still think Trengove will be on our radar...one bad game doesn't change the fact that he is 20 years old and better than some of what we have at the moment.
I've watched paid a little more attention to him over the past few since he's supposedly been on "our radar"
Have to say I haven't been impressed, kicking is ordinary, attack on the footy non existent at times, tackles don't seem to stick often enough & appears to lack intensity ............. based on that
He's a shoe in to get to Punt Road :rollin
Fair enough but perhaps it's got something to do with the extra pressure he is under playing in a team like Port...who knows. But for the earlier part of the year he was playing well.
I would still rather trade Edwards, Jackson and White for him.
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Still think Trengove will be on our radar...one bad game doesn't change the fact that he is 20 years old and better than some of what we have at the moment.
you should watch him closely.
Im no expert but this will be a massive mistake, unless it comes via free agency, or high draft picks, which it wont.
He is a glorified version of Ray Hall. He only looks half descent in Port colours because lets face it they are rubbish
Will it be an upgrade on mcguane, Browne, Gus. Absolutely, but with another year of rebuild and free agency looming why waste our top end picks on a risk like him.
Totally agree with your last line, but again I think he is worth the risk over the likes of Edwards, Gourdis, Post, Jackson, White.....the usuals.
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Heard someone on one of the Monday shows talking about him and saying he will end up a ruckman/forward and is all at sea in backline.
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He aint a forward. Agree with Greg Gerkin on Carlisle. Has been horrific this year but he will be a good player. Think he's sick of Port, so he's just got fat and probably wanted to be dropped :lol
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Cant kick, isnt a ruckman, shouldnt come to Richmond under any circumstances.
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Dean Laidley wants North to trade Hamish McIntosh. Surprised the journo didn't link him to us as they normally do :help
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120140/default.aspx
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Dean Laidley wants North to trade Hamish McIntosh. Surprised the journo didn't link him to us as they normally do :help
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120140/default.aspx
Laidley did link him to us last night on AFL 360 when the comments were made.
He also said buyer beware :whistle
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Dean Laidley wants North to trade Hamish McIntosh. Surprised the journo didn't link him to us as they normally do :help
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120140/default.aspx
Laidley did link him to us last night on AFL 360 when the comments were made.
He also said buyer beware :whistle
Sounds like his ankles may be shot and will struggle to jump :help
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Sounds like his ankles may be shot and will struggle to jump :help
That was Laidleys sentiments ;)
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Still think Trengove will be on our radar...one bad game doesn't change the fact that he is 20 years old and better than some of what we have at the moment.
you should watch him closely.
Im no expert but this will be a massive mistake, unless it comes via free agency, or high draft picks, which it wont.
He is a glorified version of Ray Hall. He only looks half descent in Port colours because lets face it they are rubbish
Will it be an upgrade on mcguane, Browne, Gus. Absolutely, but with another year of rebuild and free agency looming why waste our top end picks on a risk like him.
Totally agree with your last line, but again I think he is worth the risk over the likes of Edwards, Gourdis, Post, Jackson, White.....the usuals.
i would prefer we just give away those names you mentioned. No need to get anything in return such is the favour they will be doing us
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BF trade rumours have started....
Had an interesting chat to an opposition club official tonight (those who know me know my connection) and some interesting things on the table already.
We're into Trengove in a big way... Thursfield mentioned as part of the deal.
Forget Dangerfield. If he goes he'll head to Geelong in a trade for a homesick Varcoe.
Taylor Walker was linked to GWS, but with Davis now "signed" would need to be traded there... Sydney now sniffing around.
Tiges and Port sniffing around McIntosh.
Tiges have apparently made Ruck, CHB and another KPF their priorities with already established players and looking to consolidate more talent in the midfield through the draft.
As far as GWS was concerned... Kane Cornes was mentioned, but then Port "retired" Chad Cornes and offered him a coaching gig as an enticement to keep Kane around for a little longer to help the kids along.
Rhys Palmer to GWS is solid. As is Chris Masten from West Coast. doesn't expect GWS to be knocking on Richmonds door this season...
Expects that we'll be turning over (some offered as trades, others delisted) at least 8 players this year. Won't go into names as I'm sure they've all already been mentioned somewhere in this board.
Anyways... there was a lot more discussed, mostly rumours, but these are what were known to have been discussed between clubs, agents, players thus far.
Over and out for now... PB74
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?s=23530d561b0eafa38892d97d3871ee4c&p=21818322&postcount=263
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As if Port want Kane Cornes to help their kids. What's he going to do? Teach all the poo kicks to run round the back of someone 10 times a game to get cheap stats? Bet Port are counting down the days left on his contract
Sydney sniffing round Walker, already knew that. someone in the media said it a few days ago :lol
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North Melbourne coach Brad Scott said Hamish McIntosh was contracted until the end of 2013 and was not going anywhere.
"This question has been asked before and answered. He's a contracted player," Scott said at Aegis Park on Thursday.
"We've contracted him until 2013. We don't take those decisions lightly, so we're not only talking about keeping him we're putting our money where our mouth is.
"So he's a North Melbourne player and he will be unless Hamish or his manager come to us and indicate otherwise."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120185/default.aspx
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talk about an each way bet
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North Melbourne coach Brad Scott said Hamish McIntosh was contracted until the end of 2013 and was not going anywhere.
"This question has been asked before and answered. He's a contracted player," Scott said at Aegis Park on Thursday.
"We've contracted him until 2013. We don't take those decisions lightly, so we're not only talking about keeping him we're putting our money where our mouth is.
"So he's a North Melbourne player and he will be unless Hamish or his manager come to us and indicate otherwise."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/120185/default.aspx
Bullskata, this merely means they know we'll be asking for a ruckman as Nought will be wanting us to throw the kitchen sink at him. I wonder if the same rules apply for Lachie Hansen or Lindsay Thomas if their contracts end in 2013 also. If they offer too much walk away Tigers. He's barely played in two years.Naught are just trying to increase his value knowing we are in the market for a ruckman.
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Dimma Draft Trengrove at your peril.
The guy is a lanky spud
wouldnt go within 100 metres of him but knowing Richmond id say we will.
dud pass
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Goldsack looked impressive tonight, where's he at?
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Zac can play dont worry about that and theres no way Freo would look at trading out a future ruckman. In 3-4 years he'll be ready to take over from Sandilands
Freo have a track record of trading their future out of instand success.
Freo will listen to offers, they'll want to cash in on a premiership window whilst Sandilands and Pavlich are at the helm. Post Sandi and Pav retirement is low priority which is when Clarke will be ready.
Thats the Freo of old.
Freo have employed a consistent development strategy where Brad Lloyd and Chris Bond have invested in the draft exclusively over the last 2-3 seasons and have only recycled via the PSD.
No Shortcuts, No more excuses RFC!
correct darth
sorry Pope I think you're dreamin
Sorry I'm not sure I understand, what am I dreaming about?
That thinking Freo wouldn't accept a Foley <-> Clarke+pick.
Freo would absolutely do that deal. Sandilands has 4 years left as he is only 28. Griffin is also waiting in the wings who is a capable ruckman.
Pavlich and Sandi are Freos best players in their history and they will believe they can win a premiership with their current list. If they can add to that with someone of the calibre of a Foley they would do so.
I'd be interested to see if Clarke gets a game when Sandilands come back.
Freo would be negligent to turn down Foley for a guy who isn't in their 22.
Hey Pope, do you still think Foley for Clarke is a deal Freo would jump at? :rollin :lol
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aint anyone gunna rush out for Foley at AFL level :lol :lol :lol
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The media are trying to link Mark Blake to Richmond :-\.
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MARK Blake's Geelong career seems destined to end on 99 games.
Blake, 25, is believed to have made it known he will seek a new club after failing to play a senior match this season.
The ruckman had surgery in May after damaging ligaments in a finger and has not played since.
Blake was expected to return in the VFL last weekend but withdrew.
A 2009 premiership player, Blake is still regarded as the best tap ruckman at the club but has slipped behind Brad Ottens, Nathan Vardy, Trent West and Dawson Simpson in the pecking order of big men.
His best hope of continuing in the AFL appears to be at Greater Western Sydney or Richmond.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-blake-seems-destined-to-miss-100-games-at-geelong/story-e6frf9jf-1226111256854
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no chance
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Zac Clarke won the Rising Star award for this week.
His value has just sky-rocketed....
If we want him, we're going to have to overpay big time seeing as he is contracted till 2013.
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Next. no way will Freo let him go in the first place. Move on people.
Clark, Mitch would be more of a chance. Offer him whatever it takes!!
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he's like Polly farmer compared to what we have, he looked like being anything when he steered geelong to a flag a couple of years back...injuries have set him back, certainly worth a chance
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:lol
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Next. no way will Freo let him go in the first place. Move on people.
Clark, Mitch would be more of a chance. Offer him whatever it takes!!
Mitch Clarke is a much better option than Trengove and more realistically he would likely want out to be number 1 ruck. He killed it one year when he was number 1 but since Luenburger came in and they split duties he's been far from impressive. Some players need more responsibility - hes a good size, nimble, very agressive and at a good age where rucks just start coming into their peak. I'd throw a big pay cheque at him
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whats his kicking and decision making like, tony?
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He's got good skills for a big bloke
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whats his kicking and decision making like, tony?
Pretty good al, he's a natural footballer, understands the game well and can be pretty devastating ruckman with his ability to run most opponents off their feet. Coupled with his size and aggression reckon he'd be a perfect tag team with Vickery. 80% ruck 20% fwd swapping with Vickery. Hes 23 about 200cm and 100+kg and wants to be a clear number 1 ruck something he'll never get at brisbance with leunberger. Get it done and stop this trengove, blake nonsense
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if what you say is true i fully agree with your finish.
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whats his kicking and decision making like, tony?
Pretty good al, he's a natural footballer, understands the game well and can be pretty devastating ruckman with his ability to run most opponents off their feet. Coupled with his size and aggression reckon he'd be a perfect tag team with Vickery. 80% ruck 20% fwd swapping with Vickery. Hes 23 about 200cm and 100+kg and wants to be a clear number 1 ruck something he'll never get at brisbance with leunberger. Get it done and stop this trengove, blake nonsense
Agree, this would be a big step in the right direction. Would complement our developing mids perfectly.
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whats his kicking and decision making like, tony?
Pretty good al, he's a natural footballer, understands the game well and can be pretty devastating ruckman with his ability to run most opponents off their feet. Coupled with his size and aggression reckon he'd be a perfect tag team with Vickery. 80% ruck 20% fwd swapping with Vickery. Hes 23 about 200cm and 100+kg and wants to be a clear number 1 ruck something he'll never get at brisbance with leunberger. Get it done and stop this trengove, blake nonsense
My only knock on him TM is that he can be a bit of a sook. Hope that is just immaturity if we get him because it is the last thing our list needs - another sook.
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Isn't he a bit injury prone? I always thought he could never get a good run at it because he was always injured? or is that all the other ruckmen Brisbane have???
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Next. no way will Freo let him go in the first place. Move on people.
Clark, Mitch would be more of a chance. Offer him whatever it takes!!
Mitch Clarke is a much better option than Trengove and more realistically he would likely want out to be number 1 ruck. He killed it one year when he was number 1 but since Luenburger came in and they split duties he's been far from impressive. Some players need more responsibility - hes a good size, nimble, very agressive and at a good age where rucks just start coming into their peak. I'd throw a big pay cheque at him
Hes going to GWS, $600 gorillas per year for 3 years.
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::) So will we be left with the scraps??
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as per usual
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Give up pick 10 for M Clark and add another player for good measure.
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Gawn, Trengove and Tapscott have re-signed with Melbourne.
Max Gawn, 20 in December, said he had no interest in playing anywhere other than Melbourne, despite a media report linking him to Richmond.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-re-sign-three-prime-youngsters-jack-trengove-luke-tapscott-and-max-gawn/story-e6frf9jf-1226112680260
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Give up pick 10 for M Clark and add another player for good measure.
Probably too late as per usual, well end up picking one of those geelong 3rd 0r 4th maybe even 5th tier ruckmen.
They'll play poorly cos that's the acceptance at punt rd. And well be back to square one
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Trengove better play alot better then he has today(so far) if we we're to give up anything of worth for him.
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Trengove better play alot better then he has today(so far) if we we're to give up anything of worth for him.
I must admit I don't see what the club sees in Port's Trengove. In defence you want footballers with natural penetrating footskills who can rebound and set up attacks as well as man-up, spoil and defend. I don't see that with Trengove. It appears we are only chasing him because he's tall, plays in the backline and comes originally from Victoria rather than his football ability.
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select Trengrove and it will rival the Mcmahon trade as the worst in the last 10 years, if you ask me.
The bloke is crap and i wouldnt take anyone from that rabble of a club.
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select Trengrove and it will rival the Mcmahon trade as the worst in the last 10 years, if you ask me.
The bloke is crap and i wouldnt take anyone from that rabble of a club.
I'd take Butcher, Boak, Hartlett and Gray.
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select Trengrove and it will rival the Mcmahon trade as the worst in the last 10 years, if you ask me.
The bloke is crap and i wouldnt take anyone from that rabble of a club.
I'd take Butcher, Boak, Hartlett and Gray.
Boak is a very good footballer. I'd have him at Richmond in a heartbeat as well if I could. Hartlett and Gray are also talented albeit a bit injury-prone. Is Butcher out of contract this year? He's been at Port for two years IIRC.
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select Trengrove and it will rival the Mcmahon trade as the worst in the last 10 years, if you ask me.
The bloke is crap and i wouldnt take anyone from that rabble of a club.
I'd take Butcher, Boak, Hartlett and Gray.
Boak is a very good footballer. I'd have him at Richmond in a heartbeat as well if I could. Hartlett and Gray are also talented albeit a bit injury-prone. Is Butcher out of contract this year? He's been at Port for two years IIRC.
Boak is the only one but they wont get rid of him so Butcher aint going anywhere.
Gray absolutely no way would i touch him. Another inconsistent small forward who thinks his better than what he is. Pass
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Butcher ;D
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It is believed Port Adelaide would consider trading Cornes, Pearce, Salopek, Surjan or Rodan, even paying part of their contracts at a new club.
Port, which has lost Chad Cornes and ruckman Dean Brogan to retirement, has numerous issues with other players, including lackadaisical forward Daniel Motlop, who is out of contract at the end of the season. Playing for $400,000 this season, Motlop has not played since round 13 and is currently languishing in the SANFL.
Others out of contract next month include key defenders Alipate Carlile, who is contemplating a move to a Melbourne-based club, and Jackson Trengove, who is also considering his future.
Promising ruckman Matthew Lobbe and key forward John Butcher, who made his senior debut last weekend, are also believed to be coming out of contract.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/port-close-to-snaring-key-eagles-strategist/story-e6frg7mf-1226116301661
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Butcher ;D
He looked good in a disgrace of a team
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Rape and pillage Tigers ;D
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Butcher ;D
comeon Monk have a word ;)
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Looks like they are gonna do a big flush and rebuild...They will be after those picks that you can hang on to til next years draft and they will bottom out. Not a bad plan considering they think it is gonna be a corker. Not a bad time to be flat lining.
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PORT Adelaide forward John Butcher has stopped short of committing to the club, saying he'll wait until the end of the season to negotiate a new contract.
Butcher is one of several promising young players yet to re-sign with the Power.
Out-of-contract defender Jackson Trengove has publicly revealed he's weighing up a return to Melbourne, while full-back Alipate Carlile has also delayed putting pen to paper on a new deal.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/121198/default.aspx
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Jon Ralph says we're not that interested in Trengove but we are one of the clubs linked to Carlile.
Jackson Trengove: His manager Tom Petroro says he is split down the middle - wanting to stay but desperately homesick. Despite the links to Richmond, they aren't that interested given he's not a genuine ruckman.
Alipate Carlile: The 24-year-old defender has been linked both to GWS and Melbourne clubs including Richmond. Can't afford to lose a potential 250-gamer.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/why-rodney-eade-to-the-pies-makes-sense/story-fn6cisdj-1226117078305
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Jon Ralph says we're not that interested in Trengove but we are one of the clubs linked to Carlile.
Jackson Trengove: His manager Tom Petroro says he is split down the middle - wanting to stay but desperately homesick. Despite the links to Richmond, they aren't that interested given he's not a genuine ruckman.
Alipate Carlile: The 24-year-old defender has been linked both to GWS and Melbourne clubs including Richmond. Can't afford to lose a potential 250-gamer.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/why-rodney-eade-to-the-pies-makes-sense/story-fn6cisdj-1226117078305
Thats good news on both fronts. Carlisle is a big unit something we need down back and Trengove has been very underwhelming
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Thats good news on both fronts. Carlisle is a big unit something we need down back and Trengove has been very underwhelming
Agreed
Not a bad kick either is Alipate (strange name though ;D)
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Thats good news on both fronts. Carlisle is a big unit something we need down back and Trengove has been very underwhelming
Agreed
Not a bad kick either is Alipate (strange name though ;D)
It means bright in Fijian.
Let's hope he becomes a bright spot for us next year.
:thumbsup
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It means bright in Fijian.
Let's hope he becomes a bright spot for us next year.
:thumbsup
Thanks
I was wondering about its origins
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Rumor from Zambia.......Trengove is a cert, already signed..... :lol :shh :thumbsup
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Daniel Motlop :lol not even GWS would be dumb enough to go after him surely.
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Rumor from Zambia.......Trengove is a cert, already signed..... :lol :shh :thumbsup
Zambia can have him ;D.
I agree with TM. I'd much prefer Carlile out of the two so hopefully Ralph is right.
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INTERIM Adelaide coach Mark Bickley concedes the Crows are at risk of losing ruckman Ivan Maric as rival AFL clubs circle the 25-year-old.
Maric - last night dropped from Adelaide's 22 to confront the Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium tomorrow - has fallen behind first-choice ruckman Sam Jacobs in the pecking order.
Adelaide operations manager Phil Harper told the Herald Sun the club had offered Maric a new contract, but whether it can match what rivals such as Port Adelaide and Richmond can offer remains in question.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ivan-maric-the-endangered-crow/story-fn9pagb9-1226117740840
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let's get jacobs then
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
Lets hope that the club strikes the sort of deals that netted Grigg and Houli last year.
I have confidence in Blair Hartley doing another great job this year.
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can you tell us what position these players play, Blaisee
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can you tell us what position these players play, Blaisee
Ruck and FB/CHB is my guess.
:thumbsup
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
Lets hope that the club strikes the sort of deals that netted Grigg and Houli last year.
I have confidence in Blair Hartley doing another great job this year.
I hope its not Maric! Has never averaged more than 10possessions and 17 hitouts a game. May as well keep playing Graham!
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
Lets hope that the club strikes the sort of deals that netted Grigg and Houli last year.
I have confidence in Blair Hartley doing another great job this year.
He did a reasonable job a fair job last year with Houli and Grigg but in my opinion it was a fair way short of being a great job. Grigg cant kick IMHO.
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
To be honest this sounds like the club is chasing players who the supporters will think are duds. Filling structural holes is good but if the players are no good then whats the point? The club should be making the national draft and in particular GWS u17 picks the no 1 priority. Thats where you can find class players for the future not taking players where the supporters will highly scrutinise the deals because the they think the players coming to Punt Road arent up to it.
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
Lets hope that the club strikes the sort of deals that netted Grigg and Houli last year.
I have confidence in Blair Hartley doing another great job this year.
Sounds like a ruck and a key back, on expensive long term deals (4-5 years).
Still have to do the deal with their current clubs though.
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
How can that be if you are not GWS or GC?
isn't that against the rules? :-\
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
To be honest this sounds like the club is chasing players who the supporters will think are duds. Filling structural holes is good but if the players are no good then whats the point? The club should be making the national draft and in particular GWS u17 picks the no 1 priority. Thats where you can find class players for the future not taking players where the supporters will highly scrutinise the deals because the they think the players coming to Punt Road arent up to it.
I got confused by the first sentence having any relevance to the backing argument when it is complete supposition, based on a rumor. :santa
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Seems some Crows fans on BF would be happy with a 3rd round pick (plus maybe a swap of 2nd rounders) for Maric. Others want a 2nd round pick but I think even they admit it's wishful thinking. One wants the compo pick back we got from them for Tambling ;D.
Okay it's BF "mail" but a Crows fan on their board says his mail is that Adelaide has offered Maric a 1 year (base payments) contract extension similar to what Melb did with Jamar a couple seasons back so unless the club increases it's offer he expects Maric to be at a new club in 2012.
Honestly, I think the Tigers are a bit wiser these days regarding recruiting. They would be looking to steal Maric by offering a 3 year deal and the lure of going home. I doubt they would give up anything more than a 3rd rounder and I could not say he is worth any more than that at best.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=859373
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
Lets hope that the club strikes the sort of deals that netted Grigg and Houli last year.
I have confidence in Blair Hartley doing another great job this year.
I hope its not Maric! Has never averaged more than 10possessions and 17 hitouts a game. May as well keep playing Graham!
I agree TM. After six years in the AFL system and 77 games Maric should be producing more than that. He's not a ruckman who can go forward either and kick some goals. It appears we are only chasing after Maric because he had 37 hitouts against us last year and 26 in 2009 :P.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1640&SeasonID=ALL
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I believe we have come to terms with two players that have both agreed to be tigers in the off season.
They will help improve significant structural holes that we need to fill.
This is an extremely difficult task as the cost/benefit of these additions will be highly scrutinised.
Lets hope that the club strikes the sort of deals that netted Grigg and Houli last year.
I have confidence in Blair Hartley doing another great job this year.
I hope its not Maric! Has never averaged more than 10possessions and 17 hitouts a game. May as well keep playing Graham!
my only hope TM is that he is ready to pounce like jamar and jolly both did after 5-6 relatively fruitless seasons. I gotta say, he is one player I cannot picture at all. I couldnt pick him from andre the giant :o
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I had a dream it was Dawson Simpson....
I'm told that its definatly Maric, and our KPP target is Trengove. Nothing new there I guess.
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I had a dream it was Dawson Simpson....
I'm told that its definatly Maric, and our KPP target is Trengove. Nothing new there I guess.
well if we were to snaffle these two and retain our first two draft selections, i think we have done exceptionally well
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Trengove is overrated by a long long way. He cant kick either. If we get him after getting Grigg last year it would be a failure IMHO.
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I had a dream it was Dawson Simpson....
I'm told that its definatly Maric, and our KPP target is Trengove. Nothing new there I guess.
well if we were to snaffle these two and retain our first two draft selections, i think we have done exceptionally well
Trengove just re-signed.
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Trengove just re-signed.
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There is a God :thumbsup
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Probably a good thing.
Also for the record, Apple Macintosh 30 ho, 20 disp and 3 goals last night.
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Last night?
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Correction, yesterday :wallywink
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Sorry I couldn't find the thread of a similar name but I just heard that Jackson Trengrove is resigned with Post on a long term contract :(
Who else is on the radar then?
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Based on our previous performance in recruiting and trading Id suggest at the top of the list is ... drumroll ...
1) Fat Albert for a heavyweight type presence at CHF followed by
2) The Road Runner because we need some pace about the packs
3) Dastardly Dick from Wacky Races coz we need a bad bastard in the team and finally the
4) Big Bad Wolf from Little Red Riding Hood fame.
That gentlemen is the plan coming from our esteemed leadership at Punt Road. So dont fear we are on the way, who needs to tank when you can line up this type of talent.
;D
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Based on our previous performance in recruiting and trading Id suggest at the top of the list is ... drumroll ...
1) Fat Albert for a heavyweight type presence at CHF followed by
2) The Road Runner because we need some pace about the packs
3) Dastardly Dick from Wacky Races coz we need a bad bastard in the team and finally the
4) Big Bad Wolf from Little Red Riding Hood fame.
That gentlemen is the plan coming from our esteemed leadership at Punt Road. So dont fear we are on the way, who needs to tank when you can line up this type of talent.
;D
LOL Flags! :rollin
What about "Screech" from "Saved by the bell" who could be an understudy for Tyrone Vickery? ;D
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2096/screech.jpg)(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9488/33261995.jpg)
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Real shame about Trengove IMO, I know there are his doubters on this site however I really think in a few years we will be wishing that we pushed for him (behind the scenes) a bit harder.... :-X
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Real shame about Trengove IMO, I know there are his doubters on this site however I really think in a few years we will be wishing that we pushed for him (behind the scenes) a bit harder.... :-X
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Real shame about Trengove IMO, I know there are his doubters on this site however I really think in a few years we will be wishing that we pushed for him (behind the scenes) a bit harder.... :-X
Don't think so WAT. Not on this boy anyway.
Would rather Carlile from Port.
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Gold Coast saying they have 14 players out of contract and must lose 6 to 8 for next year.
http://goldcoastfc.com.au/news-and-media/news/contracts-on-the-line-mckenna/
Probably only rubbish disposal but may be able to make a trade (even for a compo pick ;)) with them for another experienced player.
May actually be a better option than dealing with the Giants.
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Gold Coast saying they have 14 players out of contract and must lose 6 to 8 for next year.
http://goldcoastfc.com.au/news-and-media/news/contracts-on-the-line-mckenna/
Probably only rubbish disposal but may be able to make a trade (even for a compo pick ;)) with them for another experienced player.
May actually be a better option than dealing with the Giants.
Worth looking at. I can't see them cutting to many ones that look the goods though. They will probably be only cutting players that look out of there depth and aren't showing they will be able to handle the step up into the AFL. Still could be worth a punt on one of them.
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Gold Coast saying they have 14 players out of contract and must lose 6 to 8 for next year.
http://goldcoastfc.com.au/news-and-media/news/contracts-on-the-line-mckenna/
Probably only rubbish disposal but may be able to make a trade (even for a compo pick ;)) with them for another experienced player.
May actually be a better option than dealing with the Giants.
Worth looking at. I can't see them cutting to many ones that look the goods though. They will probably be only cutting players that look out of there depth and aren't showing they will be able to handle the step up into the AFL. Still could be worth a punt on one of them.
there will be some late developers amongst them for sure. The art is in picking them.
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Some of what I was talking about is us trading AWAY players for their picks/players.
They don't really want any more young players surely, unless they're early picks.
Meanwhile they continue to have problems with key backs and ruck.
On the weekend, without Smith, they got 14 hitouts to 67 against Jacobs and Tippett who are hardly leading ruckmen.
Fraser managed 6 hitouts. In comparison Graham got 20 against Jamar and Martin.
While I would prefer we keep Gus, if we are going to trade him out why not to GC?
Similarly with McGuane, who seems surplus to our needs, but would be a big improvement on Joel Tippett who played at fullback for GC on the weekend.
There was a lot of talk last year about trading McGuane to GC for Toy.
I think that trade has improved in our favour over the last 12 months
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GC are flush with rucks including gorringe who was a high draft pick.
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Agreed that GC are flush with YOUNG rucks but...
Gorringe, Dixon and Lynch have played mainly as key forwards.
Thompson and Tippett as key defenders.
Don't you think if they had better than Fraser they would be playing them?
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Real shame about Trengove IMO, I know there are his doubters on this site however I really think in a few years we will be wishing that we pushed for him (behind the scenes) a bit harder.... :-X
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Only time will tell WP..... :thumbsup
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
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i hear we scored a semi working washing machine for Browne
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
That's what was played out in the thread...I'll link it if I CBF going back, but consensus was based on form, late first/early second rounder, which if banked would give us 4 picks in the top 40 of the 2012 'Mega-Draft'. :thumbsup
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i hear we scored a semi working washing machine for Browne
You're pushing your luck a bit Oxy. >:(
I'd settle for a Scrub board or a Ganges Slaprock.
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
Tough one because he came up from the rookie list. Would be lucky to get a late 3rd rounder for him I reckon
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
Tough one because he came up from the rookie list. Would be lucky to get a late 3rd rounder for him I reckon
Expect Nahas to now make a major run for our B&F falling just short in about 3rd place or 4th place. ;D
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
Tough one because he came up from the rookie list. Would be lucky to get a late 3rd rounder for him I reckon
so did harbrow, what did WB get for him
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
Tough one because he came up from the rookie list. Would be lucky to get a late 3rd rounder for him I reckon
so did harbrow, what did WB get for him
from memory it was end of first round.
I doubt we'd get that for Nahas - end of second round sounds more realistic for mine
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I said this on the BF board. N.Krakouer got a mid 2nd rounder. Nahas is streets ahead of him. WIll likely be top 5 B&F and therefore should be an end of 1st round. Odds are he stays.
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Greg Denham in the Australian reckons the Hawks were leading the charge for Trengove before he re-signed with Port yesterday.
He's still got us linked to Maric :-\
Another ruckman on the move is Adelaide's Ivan Maric, 25, who appears set to resurrect his career with either Port Adelaide or Richmond next season, with both clubs showing interest.
The out-of-contract Maric is understood to be keen to head to another club for more opportunities after 77 games in his six years with the Crows, including six this year. His management has not baulked at Maric moving interstate.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/relief-for-power-as-trengove-turns-down-hawks/story-e6frg7mf-1226121547782
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Greg Denham in the Australian reckons the Hawks were leading the charge for Trengove before he re-signed with Port yesterday.
He's still got us linked to Maric :-\
Another ruckman on the move is Adelaide's Ivan Maric, 25, who appears set to resurrect his career with either Port Adelaide or Richmond next season, with both clubs showing interest.
The out-of-contract Maric is understood to be keen to head to another club for more opportunities after 77 games in his six years with the Crows, including six this year. His management has not baulked at Maric moving interstate.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/relief-for-power-as-trengove-turns-down-hawks/story-e6frg7mf-1226121547782
This article also mentions Griffin wanting out of Fremantle... I'd be surprised if we're not chasing him as well.
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I'm hearing talk of Nason going back to Adelaide.
Also, reported on 3AW theres talk that yesterday Ross Lyon signed a 5 year contract to coach Melbourne.
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I'm hearing talk of Nason going back to Adelaide.
Also, reported on 3AW theres talk that yesterday Ross Lyon signed a 5 year contract to coach Melbourne.
Nason for Maric... :pray
We get a ruckman, not a great one, but at a small cost.
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Would Adelaide want Maric thought. Don't think he is the type of player Adelaide would want.
On the other hand I think Nason would be more suited to Port Adelaide. If we could package something that could be attractive to Port for Carlile. ;)
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Talk on BF that Nahas has signed a HOG with GWS....
Hypothetically if he has. What kind of compensation would we be looking at?
Tough one because he came up from the rookie list. Would be lucky to get a late 3rd rounder for him I reckon
Expect Nahas to now make a major run for our B&F falling just short in about 3rd place or 4th place. ;D
;D
No joke but I think Robbie will finish in the top 5 this year. At least a certainty to finish in the top 10.
As for losing him to GWS or trading him to another club I wouldn't say no. He lacks body strength and most importantly no left foot forces Robbie to have to cut back often into traffic to get on his right and there's been a few times this year where it's cost us a goal. There was at least instance on the weekend where a standard left foot snap for a small forward went begging and when Robbie ran around to get on his right he ran between Melbourne players who smothered the kick.
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yep, he really needs to develop his left foot.
he has provided plenty of run and carry this year, and there doesn't appear to be any one else putting their hand up to play the role.
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Foxsports.com.au users have their say on the AFL players who could become trade bait this October
By Paul Pickering and John Clark
FOX SPORTS
August 23, 2011
RICHMOND
The big fish: The Tigers are desperate to land a ruckman to help their talented young midfield group but they might have to let one leave to address their needs. Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio and Dustin Martin will be off limits. Nathan Foley anyone?
Small fry: Will Thursfield, Shane Tuck, Mitch Morton.
David Hille is a former captain and loyal servant of the Bombers, but the emergence of Tom Bellchambers has put his place beside Paddy Ryder in Essendon's best 22 in jeopardy. He could be a ready-made solution to the big-man deficiency at Richmond.
Former coach Dean Laidley says Hamish McIntosh will be cleaning out his locker at Arden Street. The ruckman will attract interest from a number of possible suitors, likely to be headed by the Tigers, if he's shopped around.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/foxsportscomau-users-have-their-say-on-the-afl-players-who-could-become-trade-bait-this-october/story-e6frf3e3-1226119697295
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Hill :lol :lol He could teach Gus and Brown how to put on Pantyhose under there dresses ;D
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Hill :lol :lol He could teach Gus and Brown how to put on Pantyhose under there dresses ;D
;D
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Hill, now I heard it all.
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Mark Fine on SEN reckons we should target Stefan Martin and offer him the No.1 gig as the Demons already have Jamar and Gawn so that sort of trade will come cheap (eg: Mumford from Geelong to Sydney). Maric is a definite no-no as he can't even make Adelaide's 22.
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Would target Mathew Bate from Melb.out of favor big time and by all reports.killing them down at Casey.would get him for little.Demons keen to off load
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Why on earth would we trade for him? What is our club? The home of former Demon duds? He doesn't fill a need. We have Jack, Griff & Vickery to play as our tall forwards next season. Forget these average players ;D
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He went pick 6 in the draft and can play either end.we have a huge problem with depth last time I looked
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Sorry Jake, I don't rate Bate at all.
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Don't think he'd add much to the club Jack. He's better than a few of our blokes but he's not a must. Unless we can offload Farmer, Nason, McGawn etc for him ;D then no thanks.
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Mark Fine on SEN reckons we should target Stefan Martin and offer him the No.1 gig as the Demons already have Jamar and Gawn so that sort of trade will come cheap (eg: Mumford from Geelong to Sydney). Maric is a definite no-no as he can't even make Adelaide's 22.
Stefan Martin is too short to be a no 1 ruck an any club. Pass.
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Mark Fine on SEN reckons we should target Stefan Martin and offer him the No.1 gig as the Demons already have Jamar and Gawn so that sort of trade will come cheap (eg: Mumford from Geelong to Sydney). Maric is a definite no-no as he can't even make Adelaide's 22.
Stefan Martin is too short to be a no 1 ruck an any club. Pass.
Martin has been superb this year.
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Alipate Carlile has just re-signed with Port Adelaide.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6038/newsid/122238/default.aspx
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Alipate Carlile has just re-signed with Port Adelaide.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6038/newsid/122238/default.aspx
That's disappointing - would have been a good pick up
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Who's next on our radar then?
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Hamish McIntosh wants to remain at North...
"Yes, I'm committed. I've signed a contract and I'm very happy at North Melbourne, they've been fantastic to me,'' he said before training today.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/long-wait-over-for-hamish-mcintosh-return-to-north-melbourne-team/story-e6frf9jf-1226125494585
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Who's next on our radar then?
Maric :P
Butcher
Hampson
Dangerfield?
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Sorry Jake, I don't rate Bate at all.
Bate does not fill any need and is a list clogger at Melbourne.
Don't rate him.
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Who's next on our radar then?
Maric :P
Butcher
Hampson
Dangerfield?
I've heard Hampson is the one we are after.
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Sorry Jake, I don't rate Bate at all.
Bate does not fill any need and is a list clogger at Melbourne.
Don't rate him.
He is one of the best performed players going around in the VFL who has been hard done by at the Demons.
You might find we have already sounded him out .
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If that is true then we're an absolute pack of fools. WTF :help
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I have a mate who is in the inner sanctum of North that says we are into Scotty Thompson big time. Apparently he has put off all contract talks with North till after the season.......
RE Bate, the kid can play and has plenty of upside (I think his development has been hindered at Melbourne) but I'm not sure he is a fit for us and I wouldn't want to give to much for him, straight swap for Morton.......
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Sorry Jake, I don't rate Bate at all.
Bate does not fill any need and is a list clogger at Melbourne.
Don't rate him.
He is one of the best performed players going around in the VFL who has been hard done by at the Demons.
You might find we have already sounded him out .
If we have then it just reaffirms my belief that Craig Cameron is a terrible list manager and we are a half way house for a Melbourne players.
Would not consider Bate regardless of how good he is at VFL level. That's just crazy. Would rather spend our resources elsewhere. Bate is a list clogger and has not set the world on fire at AFL level.
We need to get rid of list cloggers and replace them with fresh talent rather than replace them with list cloggers from other clubs.
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What's funny is that Houli Grigg and Miller were all regarded as list cloggers at the end of last year(houli 4 games last year).
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says more about their old teams than the players themselves
well done to those three
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gee if the Carlton forums react to loosing a list clogger in the way they did with Grigg, imagine what would happen if they lost a player they rated ::)
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I have a mate who is in the inner sanctum of North that says we are into Scotty Thompson big time. Apparently he has put off all contract talks with North till after the season.......
Surprising, wouldn't have thought a key defender was a priority unless they are planning to shift Astbury forward.
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Maric will be going to Tigerland (if the deal gets done).
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I have a mate who is in the inner sanctum of North that says we are into Scotty Thompson big time. Apparently he has put off all contract talks with North till after the season.......
RE Bate, the kid can play and has plenty of upside (I think his development has been hindered at Melbourne) but I'm not sure he is a fit for us and I wouldn't want to give to much for him, straight swap for Morton.......
You serious? Bate for Morton? No chance in hell, Morton is so much better its not funny.
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Sorry Jake, I don't rate Bate at all.
Is this a mass debate on how we rate Bate? ;D
Maybe a change of scenery might be good for him. I'd take a look. Can kick and takes a strong mark. Look what Miller has done for our forward structure.
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What's funny is that Houli Grigg and Miller were all regarded as list cloggers at the end of last year(houli 4 games last year).
People could easily make an argument that Miller & Grigg are not long term players. Miller will be retired soon and Grigg cant kick.
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Sportsnewsfirst twitter:
"Justin Westhoff & Andrew Moore re-sign with Port, following Alipate Carlile and Trengove - Butcher the big one, with talks due today."
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Westhoff is a good get for Poort.
That means there is absolutely no chance he'll play for us ;D
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I like your logic Wayne, I think you maybe onto something lol
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Westhoff is a good get for Poort.
That means there is absolutely no chance he'll play for us ;D
The hoff and his pedo beard ;D
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Sportsnewsfirst twitter:
"Justin Westhoff & Andrew Moore re-sign with Port, following Alipate Carlile and Trengove - Butcher the big one, with talks due today."
Morre was the player I wanted most out of Port even above Butcher. :'(
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Why? Moore is nowhere near the level of Butcher. Butch did more with 6 kicks than Moore has done in his whole career
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Moore has dont Sweet stuff All so far. Imagine if we used pick 9 on him. ME Centre would be burnt down by now ;D
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Trade whispers
By Luke Holmesby
Thu 01 Sep, 2011
Adelaide
Ivan Maric has been linked with Richmond's hunt for a ruckman and has put off contract talks until the end of the year.
Brisbane
Mitch Clark, who has been linked to GWS, Richmond and the two West Australian clubs.
Carlton
Shaun Hampson finds himself behind Rob Warnock and Matthew Kreuzer in the ruck pecking order and might field an offer or two. As with all ruckmen, Richmond looks a possible future home.
Fremantle
Zac Clarke falls in to the category of back-up ruckmen who could find greater opportunities at Punt Road.
Geelong
Mark Blake is almost certain to leave Kardinia Park after failing to play a game all season. There is sure to be interest in other ruckmen Dawson Simpson and Trent West who have slipped behind Nathan Vardy.
Hawthorn
Jordan Lisle has played just four games and has been named an emergency for most of the other matches this year and could be tempted by greener pastures.
So again, size plus lack of opportunity equals Richmond potential.
North Melbourne
Hamish McIntosh has been superseded by Todd Goldstein as the No. 1 ruckman and will play his first match for 2011 this weekend. The Kangaroos have said he is a required player but they should at least entertain the offers that are sure to come their way. Richmond has been touted as a potential home, believe it or not.
Richmond
Kelvin Moore has had a nightmare run with injury this year and hasn't played a match after finishing in the top 10 of the club's best and fairest in 2009. Clubs are always on the lookout for tall defenders and there might be a nibble or two for Moore.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122386/default.aspx
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Is there a ruckman in that article that has not been linked to us? :-\
If Gary Dempsey was to make a comeback I'm sure the article would have us sniffing around.
There may be two or three ruckmen we would be on the lookout for. Million dollar question is which ones.
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Get Zac Clarke Tigers, throw everything we have at him!
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Clarke from Freo would be my #1 choice by a mile, Apple is 28 next year so starting to get on. Wouldn't mind Hampson if he came cheap.
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Say no to apple! As JVT said, to old.
In order of preference, Id go for Z Clarke, M Clark, Hampson ------------DAYLIGHT----------------Maric--------DAYLIGHT-------the rest.
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In order of preference, Id go for Z Clarke, M Clark, Hampson ------------DAYLIGHT----------------Maric--------DAYLIGHT-------the rest.
Agreed, except I feel that M Clark would be too costly compared to what he would give us on field. Clarke from Freo perfect candidate, young, talented, tall, promise him 22 games next year and some extra coin to come home, makes perfect sense!! :gotigers
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Why? Moore is nowhere near the level of Butcher. Butch did more with 6 kicks than Moore has done in his whole career
We have good forwards now. Butcher would be a wonderful addition but we need more midfielders now. Moore would be cheap because injury and lack of opportunity has plagued his very short career. What he was able to show before he was drafted was exceptional.... plus his brother plays here so that may have been an incentive. All semantics now anyway.
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In order of preference, Id go for Z Clarke, M Clark, Hampson ------------DAYLIGHT----------------Maric--------DAYLIGHT-------the rest.
Agreed, except I feel that M Clark would be too costly compared to what he would give us on field. Clarke from Freo perfect candidate, young, talented, tall, promise him 22 games next year and some extra coin to come home, makes perfect sense!! :gotigers
I agree. Zac Clark could come far cheaper and may be a better in the long term.
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Would people be willing to offer up a first rounder and compo pick for Zac Clarke? its likely what it would cost us minimum.
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If we have pick 16-18 I'd give it up for ZacClarke or Mitch Clarke. Would in no way give up 1st pick and compo pick thats paying way overs. Compo must stay with us for next years super draft
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Luke McGuane & 1st round pick to Brisbane for Clark of the MItch Variety. Pay him whatever he wants as he is a gun who can play in conjunction with Vickery for the rest of their careers.
I would keep Graham & Browne for a few years and rookie Derickx. Browne will be OK once he grows into his skin and Graham is handy back up option and a big unit in case of injury.
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If we have pick 16-18 I'd give it up for ZacClarke or Mitch Clarke. Would in no way give up 1st pick and compo pick thats paying way overs. Compo must stay with us for next years super draft
Thats what im saying. All the talk about Zac Clarke is a waste as thats what it will cost.
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If we have pick 16-18 I'd give it up for ZacClarke or Mitch Clarke. Would in no way give up 1st pick and compo pick thats paying way overs. Compo must stay with us for next years super draft
Thats what im saying. All the talk about Zac Clarke is a waste as thats what it will cost.
I think this year, with the talent pool so shallow, we would be willing to offer up our picks for established talent. In other years where the draft is uncompromised and clubs are getting picks in the normal order we would not even contemplate it but given the circumstances trading will be on every clubs agenda this year. Picks will be speculative at best in 2011 so expect a furious trading exchange this year where more player for player trades occur than usual. Back to normal next year though especially given the consecutive years of draft compromise and the reported talent of the 2012 pool.
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Would people be willing to offer up a first rounder and compo pick for Zac Clarke? its likely what it would cost us minimum.
Minimum? LMFAO
You work for Freo? What the eff are you basing that cost on?
2nd rounder and a player. Easy to make crap up ay bro.
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A first rounder for Zac would be the starting point of any discussions if and when they occur. It is a compromised and supposedly below par draft. They will not let him go for anything less, that's if they even consider it. Why would they, he is signed for 3 years.
As for a priority pick AS WELL, no way, no deal, it won't happen. If we win on Sunday, that PP will be worth more than the first round pick!
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Would people be willing to offer up a first rounder and compo pick for Zac Clarke? its likely what it would cost us minimum.
Minimum? LMFAO
You work for Freo? What the eff are you basing that cost on?
2nd rounder and a player. Easy to make crap up ay bro.
Yer if he was uncontracted. He has 2 years left. U think they would give him up for less than 2 first rounders? Im not saying we should do it. Just saying thats what Freo would be asking.
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So in all honesty who the hell are we likely to get or go for?? Seriously every freaking year we talk or crap on about these players that we are never likely to get or do get. They always end up somewhere else.
Houli and Grigg named us as their preferred choice who has named us so far.....??????
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Mitch Clark to Freo on a $$$ multi-year contract if they can do the trade according to Denham in the Australian.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/the-dockers-have-room-within-salary-cap-to-accommodate-mitch-clark/story-e6frg7mf-1226127655461
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some are suggesting that we should be looking at the spare ruckmen that Gold Coast have got!
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some are suggesting that we should be looking at the spare ruckmen that Gold Coast have got!
Who Josh Fraser :lol :rollin
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some are suggesting that we should be looking at the spare ruckmen that Gold Coast have got!
Who Josh Fraser :lol :rollin
they have a couple of young ruckmen not getting games from what I understand.
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Houli and Grigg named us as their preferred choice who has named us so far.....??????
No-one is allowed to yet. The season hasn't finished.
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Mitch Clark to Freo on a $$$ multi-year contract if they can do the trade according to Denham in the Australian.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/the-dockers-have-room-within-salary-cap-to-accommodate-mitch-clark/story-e6frg7mf-1226127655461
3 way deal seems a natural progression of this....
M Clark to Freo
Z Clark to Richmond
Richmond pick 18 (after our north win) OR second round + Foley to Brisbane.
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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I dont understand why freo would want Mitch Clarke, but if true there'll be spillage - Griffin will probably be looking for a new home.
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If the Tiges can talk Z Clarke into wanting to become a tiger (like they did with Houli and Grigg), by promising 22 games next year, he gets to return home, then I am sure we can get him a little cheaper then a first round. Personally I think our second pick would be sufficient in the trade anyway. He is not their #1 and they prefer Griffin over him so our 2nd rounder in a straight swap is what I would offer.
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Would people be willing to offer up a first rounder and compo pick for Zac Clarke? its likely what it would cost us minimum.
We are talking about Z Clarke, not Sandilands . . .
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If the Tiges can talk Z Clarke into wanting to become a tiger (like they did with Houli and Grigg), by promising 22 games next year, he gets to return home, then I am sure we can get him a little cheaper then a first round. Personally I think our second pick would be sufficient in the trade anyway. He is not their #1 and they prefer Griffin over him so our 2nd rounder in a straight swap is what I would offer.
Two things.
1) I would have thought Z Clarke has shown just as much as Griffin. So it might cost us more than we think. But in any event, Sandilands and M Clarke would be their starting rucks, so I guess theyd be keen to offload 1 of the 2.
2) Our first pick in the draft will be around the 14-18 mark, depending on the result on Friday. Keep in mind its a very watered down draft too, so a pick 18 this year is akin to a pick 30 or more in an uncompromised draft. So a first rounder isnt as good as what we think it is. I'd rather hang on to it too but I'd definately deal it for Z Clarke.
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Would people be willing to offer up a first rounder and compo pick for Zac Clarke? its likely what it would cost us minimum.
We are talking about Z Clarke, not Sandilands . . .
Like i said earlier he is contracted for 2 years and is best 22 and will be best 22 next year. Mitch Clark will be a FF not a ruck there. They aint letting him go. And again i said thats the sort of thing they will be asking. Not what we should be paying or offering. Its massive overs but Freo can ask for what they want.
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Here's why I hope we're throwing everything at Z. Clarke.
Dont see Gus do this too often... :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGDlELJKD_4
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Get the BIG ZED
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Buckthorn speaks wisely
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Buckthorn speaks wisely
Ahhhh Buckthorn, The Oracle of this forum :bow
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I won't be surprised to see the media link us to Trent West after last night's game. They link us to every other ruckman.
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McIntosh is a dinosaur. No thanks. We dont need him.
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what u guys reckon we could get for Nahas ?
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what u guys reckon we could get for Nahas ?
2nd rounder in this years weak draft would be a ball park I reckon. Early 3rd rounder or late 2nd if your lucky in a good draft.
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what u guys reckon we could get for Nahas ?
2nd rounder in this years weak draft would be a ball park I reckon. Early 3rd rounder or late 2nd if your lucky in a good draft.
Id trade out Push Up instead of Nahas.
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Still hearing that Andrew Gaff wants out of West Coast. If that is indeed the case then he should be right at the top of Richmonds hit list of targets. Also hearing that one of Gold Coasts young ruckmen in Tom Hickey is in Richmond's sights.
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Player movements have begun already. Matthew Warnock has asked the Dees to trade him.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/05/melbourne-departures-start/
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Player movements have begun already. Matthew Warnock has asked the Dees to trade him.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/05/melbourne-departures-start/
Hope we don't look at this guy. Far too old for your team of babies and not good enough compared to some of our up and coming defenders.
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what u guys reckon we could get for Nahas ?
2nd rounder in this years weak draft would be a ball park I reckon. Early 3rd rounder or late 2nd if your lucky in a good draft.
Id trade out Push Up instead of Nahas.
too bad he is worthless in the trade table
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Player movements have begun already. Matthew Warnock has asked the Dees to trade him.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/05/melbourne-departures-start/
what happens if K.Moore doesnt play again. Watched Warnock on saturday on TV and thought why is he playing at Casey ????
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Warnock is 27... Would rather make a play for Scott Thompson from North
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More from Robbo in his online chat yesterday ...
Comment From Guest
Robbo you are spot on about Dan Jackson and Mitch Farmer. If we were to trade Jackson what pick would the Tigers be looking at?
a ruckman, but been told McIntosh won't be chased
Comment From Roscoe
Did the Tiges look after you well yesterday? Did you here anything that you can share with us?
McIntosh will not be Tigers
Herald-Sun link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/barry-hall-thug-warrior-hero/story-fn5937w8-1226129467452)
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If Griffiths wants out at the Dockers after being traded from the crows last year we should be after him and speak to his manager as I reckon he is a good ruckman and has allot of upside and would come cheap.The Power a making a play for him I guess as he lived in Adelaide for a while.
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All this talk about McIntosh, the player is a DUD, we need a much better ruckman than that, we need a good front liner like mummy.
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Tiges wouldn't even look at McIntosh.why? Bad blood there after an off field incident a few years back.
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ahh the egg beater and polish sausage incident?
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The bloke who runs SportsNewsFirst and reported today Rhys Palmer is leaving Freo for GWS, just said that Palmer is also talking to a MCG-based club in Melbourne before he decides to join GWS. So that's one of Richmond, Melbourne, Collingwood or maybe Hawthorn.
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Tiges wouldn't even look at McIntosh.why? Bad blood there after an off field incident a few years back.
rightio.
Its got nothing to do with the fact that he is on 600k a year
is contracted
2 dodgey achilles
and has played 1 game in 18 months.
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Tiges wouldn't even look at McIntosh.why? Bad blood there after an off field incident a few years back.
rightio.
Its got nothing to do with the fact that he is on 600k a year
is contracted
2 dodgey achilles
and has played 1 game in 18 months.
You forgot to add that he's a dinosaur and that most of our supporters probably dont want him at the club anyway :thumbsup
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The bloke who runs SportsNewsFirst and reported today Rhys Palmer is leaving Freo for GWS, just said that Palmer is also talking to a MCG-based club in Melbourne before he decides to join GWS. So that's one of Richmond, Melbourne, Collingwood or maybe Hawthorn.
Hopefully it's not us. Palmer's kicking is his main weakness.
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Freo ruckman Zac Clarke was a Richmond supporter growing up and loved Richo.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/121103/default.aspx
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Freo ruckman Zac Clarke was a Richmond supporter growing up and loved Richo.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/121103/default.aspx
Please let the planets align on this bloke :pray
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Freo ruckman Zac Clarke was a Richmond supporter growing up and loved Richo.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/121103/default.aspx
Please let the planets align on this bloke :pray
double please fingers crossed u know add strawberries and cream
we need some luck
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Freo ruckman Zac Clarke was a Richmond supporter growing up and loved Richo.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/121103/default.aspx
Owl is interested, you can tell because I referred to myself in the third person...
So is this run down stunt a one off? Hows he go ! :cheers
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Our only option is Clarke from Freo, those who are talking about Griffin need to remember he TOLD Adelaide last year he wanted to go home and requested to be traded to Fremantle. He wont be leaving anytime soon, he doesn't want to leave.
Zac Clarke to Richmond, make it happen! Offer the kid $400k a year :birthday
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Our only option is Clarke from Freo, those who are talking about Griffin need to remember he TOLD Adelaide last year he wanted to go home and requested to be traded to Fremantle. He wont be leaving anytime soon, he doesn't want to leave.
Zac Clarke to Richmond, make it happen! Offer the kid $400k a year :birthday
Dude, don't high ball him straight off! sheesh 400k, start low and build up! Make him feel like he worked us over and got everything he could.
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Zac Clarke is a gun. Watched a full game where he played and he was very impressive. Extremely quick for his size, has an amazing leap and takes a really strong mark.
He would be priority #1 for mine. :thumbsup :pray :pray
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Whats Zac's contract status, sorry if this has been covered I have accelerated mental decrepitude and senility etc
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contracted for a further 2 years
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absolutely agree. I think we are all on the same page here. Clarke is the go here.
Hopefully Blair H reads this
It will help our cause if Mitch Clarke heads to Freo thus adding another ruckman to their list.
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so a three way trade could be on the books?
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can't see how zac clarke will be at richmond next year.
He is contracted till 2013.
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can't see how zac clarke will be at richmond next year.
He is contracted till 2013.
Agree and Freo wont trade him
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Every one is tradable for the right price, contract or not :o
We just need to offer up somthing they can't resist....
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Did anyone attend our after-match function here? Word is that Z.Clarke requesting a trade to Victoria was the talk of the night.
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I doubt he would have signed a contract extension if he was that desperate to come home.
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I think we may be dreaming here. :sleep Time to focus our hunt elsewhere.
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I doubt he would have signed a contract extension if he was that desperate to come home.
He signed an extension last season before Griffin arrived on the scene. Allot can happen in 12 months ;)
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I doubt he would have signed a contract extension if he was that desperate to come home.
He signed an extension last season before Griffin arrived on the scene. Allot can happen in 12 months ;)
Agree.
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ill be really disappointed if we dont pull any big names after the club coming out and saying we will be very active in the trade market.
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Its a win win for everyone if they can move on someone who wants to leave but has trade value, get in someone who they want and who wants to come to them in a similar vein... They would be mugs to sour the deal and end up with resentful players on their hands at the end of 2013. I kinda admire how they have had to push crap uphill and not received the love the east coasters did. It is one club I don't mind doing honest trade with. If it was Carltank or Collingwood, I would say rip em off blind, or Adelaide for that matter, or Sydney or North, or the Bulldogs, or who else did I miss?
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ill be really disappointed if we dont pull any big names after the club coming out and saying we will be very active in the trade market.
I see your point and feel the same way, but then thinking back to last year, we picked up Grigg and Houli, both of whom have been above reasonable acquisitions and are not 'big' names. Houli for mine would hold a load of currency after this season!
I don't think we will get a 'Judd' type trade done until the free agency comes in, so this year might be another Grigg-Houli type of smart trade(s) that we make. Just gotta have some faith I guess, but I do want to see Z. Clarke wearing a Tigers jumper. :gotigers
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get it done peanuts
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Jon Ralph on sen just then that Richmond have been priced out of the chase for z Clarke. :banghead
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Priced out WTF. But we are not priced out when we offer Mcguane the spud 450k a year.
I just dont get this i really dont.
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;D
Craig Cameron you effing star
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Effing heck.... :banghead
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
well thats funny, conca told me he loves it here and cant think of a better place to be
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
I hope not.... >:( maybe he can smell success coming eagles way? :-\
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
I hope not.... >:( maybe he can smell success coming eagles way? :-\
he is going no where dont stress
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Priced out WTF. But we are not priced out when we offer Mcguane the spud 450k a year.
I just dont get this i really dont.
Doesn't really surprise me, this always happens
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we are not priced out and have plenty of room in our cap
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Ive heard we've been priced out of drafting Maric ::)
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
hmm, that must have been why he extended his contract another 2 years, pull the other one it plays jingle bells :lol
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Ive heard we've been priced out of drafting Maric ::)
Oh for the love of God, surely not :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Let me guess, we only have a packet of fresh peanuts left but Cameron believes he is only worth the stale ones :lol :lol
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We are supposedly priced out of the market for Mitch Clark not Zac Clarke even so I still think its a long shot that he will be at Richmond next year.
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Knobel is making a return. Been in poo hot form over in Queensland and we've had a few ppl from the club watching him. is over all his injuries. He will come in and ruck for 1 or 2 years before a youngster is ready to take over.
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
I hope not.... >:( maybe he can smell success coming eagles way? :-\
he is going no where dont stress
He just signed an extension too didn't he?
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Jon Ralph on sen just then that Richmond have been priced out of the chase for z Clarke. :banghead
Priced as in his wage or what Freo are asking for him?
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
I hope not.... >:( maybe he can smell success coming eagles way? :-\
he is going no where dont stress
He just signed an extension too didn't he?
Correct so he must be definitely homesick ::)
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Jon Ralph on sen just then that Richmond have been priced out of the chase for z Clarke. :banghead
Priced as in his wage or what Freo are asking for him?
I think Zac has been confused with Mitch ;)
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
well thats funny, conca told me he loves it here and cant think of a better place to be
sure he did. Luke Mcguane also told me he loves Western Sydney and would love to go there
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
well thats funny, conca told me he loves it here and cant think of a better place to be
sure he did. Luke Mcguane also told me he loves Western Sydney and would love to go there
u r a idiot
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no worries Mokbel. Say hi to Reece when you see him next which is probably tomorrow as you are close friends.
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Get a room you two :-* :-* :lol
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Jon Ralph on sen just then that Richmond have been priced out of the chase for z Clarke. :banghead
Priced as in his wage or what Freo are asking for him?
I think Zac has been confused with Mitch ;)
His words were to the effect that Mitch to freo even though they have sandilands, griff and zac Clarke. He then went on to say zac could play the wing and has a huge future. Richmond are interested but have been priced out of it. I doubt he was referring to Mitch, but the way he was wording it, it was implying zac. Maybe we're saving $$$ for free agency?
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Mokbel LOL
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I heard that Conca is homesick, likes the warm weather and beaches of Perth.
Maybe we throw him and a 2nd rounder to Freo for the big Z?
hmm, that must have been why he extended his contract another 2 years, pull the other one it plays jingle bells :lol
He has extended for one year not two. What does that mean anyway? We've traded players under contract before and I am sure we will do it again.
He is homesick - is that a surprise? 19 yo kid on the other side of the country living through his first Melbourne winter?
It doesn't mean he is going anywhere, simply that he might be a willing participant in a trade option for a badly needed ruckman. He probably won't go anywhere but he is homesick FACT!
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Brisbane apparently interested in Zac Clarke although Freo are saying a Zac Clarke for Mitch Clark swap is not on.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/dockers/10203854/palmers-2m-headturner/
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Butcher is going to re-sign with Port from all reports.
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Nason to Adelaide for Maric . . .
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Oi you lot. I'm pretty sure the folks at RFC know that Zac Clarke would be a handy addition. I doubt that they would just be sitting around wanking over the 95 prelim vs. the bumbers right now.
They will be having a dip.
You guys are throwing little tanties :'( as if luring one of the most promising players in the game, who is under contract, to a poorly performed club, is a bloody walk in the park.
We will go hard after him, but it is very unlikely i think.
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Oi you lot. I'm pretty sure the folks at RFC know that Zac Clarke would be a handy addition. I doubt that they would just be sitting around wanking over the 95 prelim vs. the bumbers right now.
They will be having a dip.
You guys are throwing little tanties :'( as if luring one of the most promising players in the game, who is under contract, to a poorly performed club, is a bloody walk in the park.
We will go hard after him, but it is very unlikely i think.
yep not going to happen unless we give up big for him. He's young, had a breakout season and under contract not going to happen. We should be going hard for out of contract Mitch Clarke or enquiring about Griff if reports are true he wants out
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Oi you lot. I'm pretty sure the folks at RFC know that Zac Clarke would be a handy addition. I doubt that they would just be sitting around wanking over the 95 prelim vs. the bumbers right now.
They will be having a dip.
You guys are throwing little tanties :'( as if luring one of the most promising players in the game, who is under contract, to a poorly performed club, is a bloody walk in the park.
We will go hard after him, but it is very unlikely i think.
Griffin does not want out, was homesick at Adelaide and told them he wanted to be traded to Freo just last season.
yep not going to happen unless we give up big for him. He's young, had a breakout season and under contract not going to happen. We should be going hard for out of contract Mitch Clarke or enquiring about Griff if reports are true he wants out
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Fremantle ruckman Zac Clarke does not want to be considered trade bait in any potential deal to bring Brisbane's Mitch Clark back home to WA and is determined to force a formidable Dockers union with teammate Aaron Sandilands.
Clarke said he felt indebted to Fremantle for providing his football lifeline and was anxious to repay the club by continuing his sharp improvement.
The Dockers contracted him until the end of 2013 to take him beyond the reach of Greater Western Sydney and Gold Coast recruiting concessions.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10213271/clarke-wants-no-part-of-lion-trade/
And Butcher will apparently re-sign with Port within the next 24 hours ..
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122967/default.aspx
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The Zac Clarke one is interesting. I reckon they are trying to force Brisbane to accept picks because Clarke won't go to Brisbane but he might come to us if he really is a tigers man at heart.
Freo must be up to something they just ditched a bunch of blokes without blinking so they must be trying to rack up some picks. And in this crap draft...why would you do that unless you had some way into some of the better ones?
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Freo must be up to something they just ditched a bunch of blokes without blinking so they must be trying to rack up some picks.
Have I missed something here, where can I find out who, oh Wise one?
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was in trade thingy in the HUN. Dunno what is what out of that lot though rookies / seniors
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/departmentoftrade
FREMANTLE
Roger Hayden (ret.)
Byron Schammer (ret.)
Rhys Palmer (GWS)
Clayton Hinkley (delisted)
Joel Houghton (delisted)
Tim Ruffles (delisted)
Ben Bucovaz (delisted)
Hamish Shepheard (delisted
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More to come apparently, thats why I was saying... :o
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/five-fremantle-axings-just-the-start/story-fn69a32t-1226132049238
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Thanks Barney :cheers
Interesting they have delisted Bucovaz, there were big wraps for this kid a season or so back?
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He is listed as a rookie so is shepheard so could be getting re rookied..
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add Crowley, Walters and Pearce to the list. Won't be offered contracts till after trade week, if at all.
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would take Crowley
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Only as a tagger. trade jackson for him ;D
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was in trade thingy in the HUN. Dunno what is what out of that lot though rookies / seniors
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/departmentoftrade
FREMANTLE
Roger Hayden (ret.)
Byron Schammer (ret.)
Rhys Palmer (GWS)
Clayton Hinkley (delisted)
Joel Houghton (delisted)
Tim Ruffles (delisted)
Ben Bucovaz (delisted)
Hamish Shepheard (delisted
Hinkley can play cant he , or am i having nightmares still about clayton collard :shh
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A rumour on the Brisbane Lions facebook page is that we have offered Nahas plus our 2nd rounder for Mitch Clark.
http://www.facebook.com/BrisbaneLionsAFC
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Sign and run tiges. As good as Nahas has been we are getting a good ruck/forward for a small forward and 2nd rounder.
Brisbane fans have clarified the whole Clark only wanting to be a forward as a comment made after Voss had told him he would play CHF.
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makes sense and proves foley is a lesser player
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makes sense and proves foley is a lesser player
Foley will be solid for us when he isnt our 3rd/4th best mid. When he goes down to 7th/8th we will be dominating. Unfortunately its not the case yet.
Drafting a new small forward will be easier than getting a gun ruck/forward IMO. Plus we keep our first rounder to get a good mid.
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prefer to keep the Donger and move the cripple on
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Griffin to Port for Motlop.
If true i find it so hard to believe anyone would consider trading for Motlop. Seriously!!
IMO Griffin is not a bad ruckman at all, a lot better than Maric
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Motlop can play and his head is in the right place atm. pushing 30 though
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Didn't Griffin leave Adelaide in the first place to return to his home state and be closer to his family?
A rumour on the Brisbane Lions facebook page is that we have offered Nahas plus our 2nd rounder for Mitch Clark.
http://www.facebook.com/BrisbaneLionsAFC
Most likely garbage given Robbie has re-signed (although the old Heffernan rule no longer exists) but this is the sort of trade we should be looking at. Selling a replaceable player with deficiencies when his trade value is at its highest point rather than hanging onto him too long. Ironically Mitch Clark should be a Tiger in the first place but we went with JON instead because the Club at the time rated Mitch Clark alongside Cleve Hughes :P as worth only a second round pick.
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Didn't Griffin leave Adelaide in the first place to return to his home state and be closer to his family?
MT you know not to let facts get in the way of a good rumour.
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Dont know how true this one is but have heard that we are talking to tyson goldsack from the maggies
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Dont know how true this one is but have heard that we are talking to tyson goldsack from the maggies
stuff i hope not. Can kick the ball and not much else. But i did hear that like 4 months ago so could be true.
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Tyson Goldsack
LOL :lol
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Tighten Bluesack
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Turgid bluesacks I think I had that once....
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Tyson Goldsack
LOL :lol
Dont know how true this one is but have heard that we are talking to tyson goldsack from the maggies
stuff i hope not. Can kick the ball and not much else. But i did hear that like 4 months ago so could be true.
seriously you blokes have nfi sometimes - goldsack can play
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Tyson Goldsack
LOL :lol
Dont know how true this one is but have heard that we are talking to tyson goldsack from the maggies
stuff i hope not. Can kick the ball and not much else. But i did hear that like 4 months ago so could be true.
seriously you blokes have nfi sometimes - goldsack can play
After 30 years of misery Ive decided its best to bag everyone and then just hope for the best and that they can all prove me wrong ;D
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Tyson Goldsack
LOL :lol
Dont know how true this one is but have heard that we are talking to tyson goldsack from the maggies
stuff i hope not. Can kick the ball and not much else. But i did hear that like 4 months ago so could be true.
seriously you blokes have nfi sometimes - goldsack can play
After 30 years of misery Ive decided its best to bag everyone and then just hope for the best and that they can all prove me wrong ;D
:lol
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Promising Adelaide forward Jack Gunston appears to have already made a decision on his playing future.
The 20-year-old is reported to have asked Adelaide for a trade to a Victorian-based club to be nearer to family and friends.
He didn't attend the Crows' club champion award on Friday night, preferring to remain in Melbourne.
The lanky forward increased his trade value significantly in the latter-part of the season, kicking 12.9 in his last five matches.
He's only played 14 games for Adelaide since being selected with pick No.29 in the 2009 NAB AFL Draft.
Harper and Crows chief executive Steven Trigg are hoping to meet with Gunston and his family to discuss his future over the weekend.
Ruckman Maric also appears destined to leave the club for the lure of greater opportunities at Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123133/default.aspx
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Heard GWS are into McGuane in a big way. Was told he is considering it.
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Heard GWS are into McGuane in a big way. Was told he is considering it.
Hope your right
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Heard GWS are into McGuane in a big way. Was told he is considering it.
This is for the end of next season yes? hes contracted for one more year - take him now
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Big tone is a Lukey nuthugger, so this could be correct.
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Im pretty sure the club would be up for a swapsy...he's run his race at Punt rd with zippo improvement left in the tank
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Heard GWS are into McGuane in a big way. Was told he is considering it.
This is for the end of next season yes? hes contracted for one more year - take him now
Agree. Give them a late draft pick too just to get rid of him. ;D
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Promising Adelaide forward Jack Gunston appears to have already made a decision on his playing future.
The 20-year-old is reported to have asked Adelaide for a trade to a Victorian-based club to be nearer to family and friends.
He didn't attend the Crows' club champion award on Friday night, preferring to remain in Melbourne.
The lanky forward increased his trade value significantly in the latter-part of the season, kicking 12.9 in his last five matches.
He's only played 14 games for Adelaide since being selected with pick No.29 in the 2009 NAB AFL Draft.
Harper and Crows chief executive Steven Trigg are hoping to meet with Gunston and his family to discuss his future over the weekend.
Ruckman Maric also appears destined to leave the club for the lure of greater opportunities at Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123133/default.aspx
bring him in and put vickery in teh ruck and have griff as depth .. cause griff has shown nothing so far
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Promising Adelaide forward Jack Gunston appears to have already made a decision on his playing future.
The 20-year-old is reported to have asked Adelaide for a trade to a Victorian-based club to be nearer to family and friends.
He didn't attend the Crows' club champion award on Friday night, preferring to remain in Melbourne.
The lanky forward increased his trade value significantly in the latter-part of the season, kicking 12.9 in his last five matches.
He's only played 14 games for Adelaide since being selected with pick No.29 in the 2009 NAB AFL Draft.
Harper and Crows chief executive Steven Trigg are hoping to meet with Gunston and his family to discuss his future over the weekend.
Ruckman Maric also appears destined to leave the club for the lure of greater opportunities at Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123133/default.aspx
bring him in and put vickery in teh ruck and have griff as depth .. cause griff has shown nothing so far
Vickery should spend 80% of his time at least in the forward line IMHO.
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Trade Griff to Adelaide for gunston and maric
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... Tonight's club champion dinner could be Mitch Clark's last Lions function.
The out-of-contract ruckman/forward met with Voss yesterday as part of the club's standard end-of-season review process.
Clark is expected to make a decision about his future after tonight's presentation at the Brisbane Convention Centre.
Fremantle and Richmond are the two front-runners for Clark's services if he decides to leave the Gabba. Greater Western Sydney have dropped out of the chase for the 23-year-old.
A trade with the Dockers could prove difficult but Fremantle might be willing to offer up defender Paul Duffield and a draft pick for Clark.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/brisbane-lions-face-battle-to-lure-neil-craig-to-the-club/story-e6frep5o-1226133295255
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Promising Adelaide forward Jack Gunston appears to have already made a decision on his playing future.
The 20-year-old is reported to have asked Adelaide for a trade to a Victorian-based club to be nearer to family and friends.
He didn't attend the Crows' club champion award on Friday night, preferring to remain in Melbourne.
The lanky forward increased his trade value significantly in the latter-part of the season, kicking 12.9 in his last five matches.
He's only played 14 games for Adelaide since being selected with pick No.29 in the 2009 NAB AFL Draft.
Harper and Crows chief executive Steven Trigg are hoping to meet with Gunston and his family to discuss his future over the weekend.
Ruckman Maric also appears destined to leave the club for the lure of greater opportunities at Richmond.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123133/default.aspx
We dont have a quality mid sized half forward. Gunston should be on the list if hes available. The way things stand at the moment he would fit in as a 3rd forward and if Griffiths can show he can play then Gunston takes the 4th defender in any potential forward line. That starts to look like a pretty decent forward line.
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Anyone seen much of Gunston? Is he quick, agile? strong mark? size? Havent seen any footage of him at all over the past 2 seasons
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According to stats hes 193cm he didnt look that tall when we played Adelaide still he seemed to go ok during the season.
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he's 192/193 and yes he is quick, agile, good grab. very skinny though.
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cheers guys
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Mitch Clark has told Brisbane he wants to be traded to Freo ....
Brisbane Lions play hard ball on Mitch Clark
Andrew Hamilton
From: Sunday Herald Sun
September 11, 2011
The Brisbane Lions have demanded a top draft pick and a rising young star as their minimum price for Mitch Clark, who has told the club he wants to be traded to Fremantle.
The Lions want Fremantle's top draft pick, yet to be determined but expected to be somewhere between 12 and 15, and an established player capable of slotting into a senior role - possibly exciting Zac Clarke.
Clark told Lions coach Michael Voss before the club club's champion function that he wanted to join the Dockers but was warned the deal would be done on Brisbane's terms.
Docker Clarke, a late bloomer, came to football after a junior career in basketball.
He has emerged as a serious talent, and is in a similar mould to Lion Clark in that he can play deep forward and ruck.
Contracted to the end of 2013, he is an exciting long-term prospect but the Dockers feel Mitch Clark's greater experience could be the missing ingredient for a tilt at a premiership.
The Dockers are torn between trading for Clark or winning the frenzied auction for exciting WA 17-year-old Jaeger O'Meara, who is ineligible for this draft but can be pre-drafted by expansion club GWS and then on-sold.
Coach Mark Harvey wants the deal done but it is understood the club's recruiters lean towards the long-term strategy of O'Meara.
Brisbane football manager Dean Warren said the Lions were keen to retain Clark but accepted his reasons for wanting to go home.
The fact Clark has only nominated one club has made it difficult to get a deal done.
Given his importance to Brisbane's structure, the scarcity of talls on its list and that Clark was a top 10 draft pick with five years invested in his development, a trade will not come cheap.
"We have to do what's best for our football club," Warren said.
"So it is going to be a hard deal to get done."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-play-hard-ball-on-mitch-clark/story-fn69a32t-1226133842314
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And thats probably why we are out of the hunt for mitch, due to what brisbane would want for him.
It may just be better to hold onto pennies to see what comes up in next year or so
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Hs told all potential suitors he wants to be a key fwd and not a ruckman - hence we have not seriously chased him.
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Fair enough, didnt realise that to be honest. Whos next??
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do a deal with Freho heave ho for Zac so they can get Mitch and Brisbane can buy a few more duds and all three of us are happy.
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M Clarke to Freo
Zach Clarke to Richmond
Pick 14, Luke McGuane & Angus Graham to Brisbane
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The lions want a high draft pick and a good player for Clark.
witch might be zack
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The lions want a high draft pick and a good player for Clark.
witch might be zack
read that. Voss is stuffing delusional.
1st rounder and Zac Clarke for Mitch Clarke. Is he Judd or ABlett all of a sudden?
Maybe trying to make up for 2009 trade period?
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M Clarke to Freo
Zach Clarke to Richmond
:o
Pick 14, Luke McGuane & Angus Graham to Brisbane
pick 14 for Zachary?
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I reckon Z. Clark to Richmond has about a 1% chance of happening. Griffen looks likely to leave and Sandilands won't be around forever. Freo have pick 16, I think they'll be able to put a package together that'll satisfy Brisbane.
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North Melbourne and Hawthorn after Crow Jack Gunston.
Adelaide's not happy about him leaving and stripped him of a club award at the B&F last night.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-strips-award-from-reluctant-jack-gunston/story-e6frf9jf-1226134312735
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Package deal, Edwards for maric and gunston, plus maybe 3rd rounder on our behalf :cheers
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Anyone seen much of Gunston? Is he quick, agile? strong mark? size? Havent seen any footage of him at all over the past 2 seasons
Kicked five goals against us in round 23. Looked okay but that was the only time I saw him.
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Anyone seen much of Gunston? Is he quick, agile? strong mark? size? Havent seen any footage of him at all over the past 2 seasons
Kicked five goals against us in round 23. Looked okay but that was the only time I saw him.
Yeah that's the one... had Post as his opponent most of the game (yep couldn't resist ;D)
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He got those goals from our press being broken extremely easily.
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He got those goals from our press being broken extremely easily.
And his opponent being 10 metres off him ;D
+ he out bodied his opponent a couple of times and ran of said opponent (not shown in the TV) too many times ;D ;D
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Posts new nicname is now officially
"said opponent"
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Stefan Martin and Cale Morton have been re-signed by Melbourne.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-demons-sign-cale-morton-stefan-martin/story-fn69a32t-1226135038981
And the latest BF rumour is:
"I was speaking to a guy from AFLQ today who knows [Shaun] Hampson from his MtGravatt days and he reckons we have a foot in the door with hampson who is considering nominating us as his club of choice and will make a decision once the finals are done and dusted (for Carlton that is)"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22235718&postcount=920
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... once the finals are done and dusted (for Carlton that is)
With any luck that will be around 8:30pm on Saturday. :cheers
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North Melbourne and Hawthorn after Crow Jack Gunston.
Adelaide's not happy about him leaving and stripped him of a club award at the B&F last night.
Gee, that's the way to build a culture of appreciation around a club. Your efforts are only appreciated as long as you stay with us? :lol :wallywink
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... once the finals are done and dusted (for Carlton that is)
With any luck that will be around 8:30pm on Saturday. :cheers
lol, might be too, i reckon we'd have to be a huge chance for hampson, the blues cant affors to offer him more than peanuts...we could be 100k more per season than what they can offer, thats some serious scratch we're talkin when you have a high maintenance squeeze to finance :lol
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... once the finals are done and dusted (for Carlton that is)
With any luck that will be around 8:30pm on Saturday. :cheers
lol, might be too, i reckon we'd have to be a huge chance for hampson, the blues cant affors to offer him more than peanuts...we could be 100k more per season than what they can offer, thats some serious scratch we're talkin when you have a high maintenance squeeze to finance :lol
That's right. Good quality hay bales and milking machines don't just fall out of the sky.
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Good ol' DeepThroat007 on BF is back again this year :whistle ....
Just informing you all that I know that we are really into Patrick Dangerfeild and Andrew Gaff, we are trying to at least get 1 and hopefully both. Both our 1st pick this year and our compo pick next year will be used, we will also trade player/s to obtain other draft picks and or help other trades occur in 3 ways deals. Maric will go into pre season draft if the crows do not accept a 3 rd pick, which is what we offerred for houli and also the crows them selves offered no better than a 2nd round pick for Jacobs who now is there number 1 ruck.
Conca will not be traded for gaff but it was considered early.
Marcus Drum will play for Coburg next year and take over Tim clarkes ( who is going over sea's ) job as development and player welfare.
Jackson Will be traded and could be used with another (better) player to get a GWS mini draft pick 4 or on his own for a pre listed player like wheeler, Mhor or Luke brown from Norwood, Saad from VFL, there's a couple of other players like shenton from Norwood Who we r considering late in the draft or as a Rookie.
Just reminding you all that it's only early and I'm not saying this set in stone.
We are also into Koby Stevens from WC and Tom Lynch from the Saints, maric from Melb, Walters from freo.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22262362&postcount=131
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Who is this knob jockey????
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Conca would be an untouchable. I highly doubt the club would even give a thought to trading him.
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Who is this knob jockey????
I dont think one piece of that info is even accurate in the slightest bit. Unless Drum becomes a development coach then meh.
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Who is this knob jockey????
A good fiction writer with a proven 0.00% hit rate
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19046535&postcount=107
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actually Deep throat's info is as accurate as any ones at this time of year.
Not everything he says to comes to fruition, but not every avenue explored by the club will come to fruition either.
Last year he said that we would take a west australian kid that would be a surprise with our first pick.
Most of the other names he associated us with in the trades did turn out to be ones we were interested in and generally he named them before the media did. He claimed we had a heads of agreement signs with Houli very early on, but i cant remember if he said the same about grigg or not.
I wouldn't take it all as gospel, but nor would I discount it.
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Who is this knob jockey????
A good fiction writer with a proven 0.00% hit rate
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19046535&postcount=107
LOL what a joker. Coxy is gonna go on there and smash him once he's settled into his new pad in Williamstown.
What's next? Jay Neagle as back up to Rance?
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actually Deep throat's info is as accurate as any ones at this time of year.
Not everything he says to comes to fruition, but not every avenue explored by the club will come to fruition either.
Last year he said that we would take a west australian kid that would be a surprise with our first pick.
I wouldn't take it all as gospel, but nor would I discount it.
He also said we had locked in Heppell ::)
What he does is extrapolate known rumors into trade arrangements and deals, which sound good, but are complete bull plop.
If you can get past the information look at the 'style' and 'tense' of his posts, its obvious he is making it up.
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A regular nostradumass
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LOL this prick gets everyone talking every year though I will give him that, he should start his own site and get sponsors, he would make a mint for a few months.
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actually Deep throat's info is as accurate as any ones at this time of year.
Not everything he says to comes to fruition, but not every avenue explored by the club will come to fruition either.
Last year he said that we would take a west australian kid that would be a surprise with our first pick.
Most of the other names he associated us with in the trades did turn out to be ones we were interested in and generally he named them before the media did. He claimed we had a heads of agreement signs with Houli very early on, but i cant remember if he said the same about grigg or not.
I wouldn't take it all as gospel, but nor would I discount it.
He said we would take Heppell guaranteed. I said we would take an unknown interstate kid and BF would go into meltdown.
But your right. At this early stage the club would be speaking to that many players. I have a sneaky feeling Chaplin or Carlile will be a KPD for the Tigers next year. And Astbury a CHF.
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I love this guy, is the BF version of Beefcake, just goes all in! :cheers The more he post's the more entertainment we have leading up to trade week :pray
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But your right. At this early stage the club would be speaking to that many players. I have a sneaky feeling Chaplin or Carlile will be a KPD for the Tigers next year. And Astbury a CHF.
Carlile (sp?) is not an option having just re-signed a fortnight ago
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But your right. At this early stage the club would be speaking to that many players. I have a sneaky feeling Chaplin or Carlile will be a KPD for the Tigers next year. And Astbury a CHF.
Carlile (sp?) is not an option having just re-signed a fortnight ago
I think its Chaplin personally. Its one of them though has been offered to us. Its a contracted player too.
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If someones got an account on Bigfooty can they stick a rumour on the main board that Jack Trengove from Melbourne has asked for a trade to Adelaide ;D Lets see how the snow skiers take that one ;D
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lawl. Im still peeed those mephastophalis wannabes get two picks, they deserve nothing but hot grease thrown on their laps.
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lawl. Im still peeed those mephastophalis wannabes get two picks, they deserve nothing but hot grease thrown on their laps.
Settle down Owl, you making me all moist thinking about Jack Watts and his Hot Greased Lap :eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
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oh god help us
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From Jon Ralph's live chat this arvo....
Comment From Guest
Hi Jon, What is the latest on the tigers delisting and trades
Jon Ralph:
The Tigers today delisted a couple of rookies who hadn't played and Tom Hislop.
I assume they will delist a few more after the trade period.
Ben Nason's name was thrown up in the trade with Ivan Maric this week.
I think he might struggle to play so why not.
What is a fair price for Maric? I think the compo pick they got for Tambling.
This year it would be worth about 30 and next year maybe 20.
Tambling hasn't cut it, so it would be a fair minded trade
Comment From king
hey ralphy. hearing rumours dangerfield is looking to leave adelaide. have you heard anything?
Jon Ralph:
Dangerfield has another year on his contract. I interviewed him this year and he as far from certain about staying at Adelaide forever. Loved Neil Craig and now he's gone. Think he's a big chance to come home next year
Comment From Stormboy
Why did the Dees keep Morton and not trade him!!??
Jon Ralph:
I think Morton showed enough signs late in the year. He still need to tackle more and win his own ball, but he hasn't got huge trade potential and so they might as well keep him
Comment From Wolf
Ralphie any idea who the big fish the Tigers are chasing? Rumour around the forums is maybe a play for Dangerfield? You heard anything?
Jon Ralph:
Richmond not necessarily trading for a big fish. They only have pick 14 and the Tambling compo pick. I haven't heard who it is but they will definitely get Maric
Comment From Wolf
Is Neil Craig heading to Tigerland?
Jon Ralph:
All of Brisbane and Richmond and even the AFL want Craig. Dunno where he will end up
Comment From charlie murphy
gidday jon. pia miller. that is all
Jon Ralph:
Great call, Charlie. She was looking excellent at the Richmond b and f on Friday.
Great effort by Bachar Houli by the way to finish fourth. Shaun Grigg finished tenth.
I know he has limitations but Andrew Collins played one game at Carlton then got injured. That's a good trade for Richmond whichever way you cut it
Comment From Leela
Big rumours down Tigerland that Foley wants out and will be traded to GWS for a high mini-draft pick. HAve you heard anything? Does that sound valid?
Jon Ralph:
I asked Richmond last week if Foley was secure. They said they wanted to get players in rather than trade them out. The coach couldn't have pumped up his leadership or year any more at the b and f. I had thought that he was the one who might be trade bait but they say definitely not. He's out of contract though
Comment From tiger85
Could tigers try and persuade Mitch Clark to Melbourne by offering our first rounder???
Jon Ralph:
Richmond said it was priced out of the market on Mitch Clarke. He would be perfect for them but pretty sure he wants to go home. He's negotiating with Fremantle today
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/who-is-this-years-best-trade-bait/story-fn6cisdj-1226137300852
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From Jon Ralph's live chat this arvo....
Comment From charlie murphy
gidday jon. pia miller. that is all
Jon Ralph:
Great call, Charlie. She was looking excellent at the Richmond b and f on Friday.
Great effort by Bachar Houli by the way to finish fourth. Shaun Grigg finished tenth.
I know he has limitations but Andrew Collins played one game at Carlton then got injured. That's a good trade for Richmond whichever way you cut it
It was tuesday ralphy you twit ;D
Comment From thegdog
Will the TIgers be able to trade Jackson or Mc GUANE???
Jon Ralph:
I saw Jackson at the Richmond b and f and he said the rumours which had been on SEN about him being traded out were crap. He said he wanted to stay.
I think as up and down and undisciplined as his year was, they still need him at his best as a tagger for opposition stars.
"wanted to" ??? What the
I "wanted to" go back to the New York for holidays this year and guess what it isn't happening ..we dont always get what we want....
Interesting part of that (to me at least) is if he had signed a new contract he would have told Ralphy, he didn't so .... ;) ;D
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If we traded the compo pick back to Adelaide for Maric that would have to go down in history as the worst trade ever! Ralph has no idea! Lets not forget that's all they originally got for Bock who is 5 times the player Maric is...... :banghead :banghead :banghead
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oh god help us
God helps those that help themselves.
God also thinks you should go all in.
:thumbsup
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oh god help us
God helps those that help themselves.
God also thinks you should go all in.
:thumbsup
hallelujah to that........Amen
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Interesting part of that (to me at least) is if he had signed a new contract he would have told Ralphy, he didn't so .... ;) ;D
Do you know something WP, or are you like me, just very hopeful we part ways with Jacko. ;D
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Interesting part of that (to me at least) is if he had signed a new contract he would have told Ralphy, he didn't so .... ;) ;D
Do you know something WP, or are you like me, just very hopeful we part ways with Jacko. ;D
I know nothing wayne, didn't speak with Jacko at the B&F but I really do think it is odd that if he has re-signed then he didn't tell Ralphy and if he tell Ralphy then Rpalhy dind't report it and more important that if has re-signed the club hasn't announced it
So I suppose I am like you hoping they trade him .... no doubt though if he doens't get traded he will be kept no way in hell they will de-list him ...
My personal view on most of the list management decisions is alot of things will get finalised after trade week
Biggest signing they need to make right now (again just my opinion) is getting Neil Craig's signature on that contract :thumbsup
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From Jon Ralph's live chat this arvo....
Comment From charlie murphy
gidday jon. pia miller. that is all
Jon Ralph:
Great call, Charlie. She was looking excellent at the Richmond b and f on Friday.
Great effort by Bachar Houli by the way to finish fourth. Shaun Grigg finished tenth.
I know he has limitations but Andrew Collins played one game at Carlton then got injured. That's a good trade for Richmond whichever way you cut it
It was tuesday ralphy you twit ;D
Comment From thegdog
Will the TIgers be able to trade Jackson or Mc GUANE???
Jon Ralph:
I saw Jackson at the Richmond b and f and he said the rumours which had been on SEN about him being traded out were crap. He said he wanted to stay.
I think as up and down and undisciplined as his year was, they still need him at his best as a tagger for opposition stars.
"wanted to" ??? What the
I "wanted to" go back to the New York for holidays this year and guess what it isn't happening ..we dont always get what we want....
Interesting part of that (to me at least) is if he had signed a new contract he would have told Ralphy, he didn't so .... ;) ;D
that means that I get to continue with my membership and I dont have to cut my length of continued membership :thumbsup
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I was informed today that Ivan and Neil Craig are definitely coming to the Tigers! :-\
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From Jon Ralph's live chat this arvo....
Comment From Guest
Hi Jon, What is the latest on the tigers delisting and trades
What is a fair price for Maric? I think the compo pick they got for Tambling.
This year it would be worth about 30 and next year maybe 20.
Tambling hasn't cut it, so it would be a fair minded trade [/b]
That has to be one of the dumbest trade comments I've ever read.
Lots of teams do trade deals that don't work out. It doesn't mean the team that benefited the most from it should just go giving away there picks the next year to make up for it.
Next he'll be claiming Demon's should give there Scully Mid 1st round pick to Carlton to make up for Brock McLean because he hasn't worked out.
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I was informed today that Ivan and Neil Craig are definitely coming to the Tigers! :-\
Let's hope youre right in respect of the latter :thumbsup
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I was informed today that Ivan and Neil Craig are definitely coming to the Tigers! :-\
Id happily take Maric as the steaknives that come with Craig
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I was informed today that Ivan and Neil Craig are definitely coming to the Tigers! :-\
Neil Craig coming to Punt Rd would be positive news. Maric on the other hand :-\.
I was told two weeks back that Maric was a certainty to come to Richmond and had signed a heads of agreement with us. So now it's down to working out what we pay in terms of picks/players to get him across :-\.
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Neil Craig coming to Punt Rd would be positive news. Maric on the other hand :-\.
I was told two weeks back that Maric was a certainty to come to Richmond and had signed a heads of agreement with us. So now it's down to working out what we pay in terms of picks/players to get him across :-\.
I hope Maric isn't a lock I'd be disappointed if that is the case. I don't understantd the Maric love. As I have posted elsewhere stats wise he is behind Gus who is at least improving his average hitouts year to year. The club needs to improve but I don't know if this would be just a case of moving sideways.
We should be at least investigating Hampson, Nicholls and the delisted Brisbane Rucks. I liked the look of McCauley in the game I saw him play. Griffin would be another (better) option but I'm unsure if he would come to Melbourne.
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Neil Craig coming to Punt Rd would be positive news. Maric on the other hand :-\.
I was told two weeks back that Maric was a certainty to come to Richmond and had signed a heads of agreement with us. So now it's down to working out what we pay in terms of picks/players to get him across :-\.
I hope Maric isn't a lock I'd be disappointed if that is the case. I don't understantd the Maric love. As I have posted elsewhere stats wise he is behind Gus who is at least improving his average hitouts year to year. The club needs to improve but I don't know if this would be just a case of moving sideways.
Just passing on what I was told HT. I'm not that crash hot about trading for Maric either :-\. The source was a fairly reliable one (not a person I know to make things up).
Nicholls and McCauley won't be the answer either as both aren't experienced ruckmen which is what the Club is trying to find.
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Neil Craig coming to Punt Rd would be positive news. Maric on the other hand :-\.
I was told two weeks back that Maric was a certainty to come to Richmond and had signed a heads of agreement with us. So now it's down to working out what we pay in terms of picks/players to get him across :-\.
I hope Maric isn't a lock I'd be disappointed if that is the case. I don't understantd the Maric love. As I have posted elsewhere stats wise he is behind Gus who is at least improving his average hitouts year to year. The club needs to improve but I don't know if this would be just a case of moving sideways.
We should be at least investigating Hampson, Nicholls and the delisted Brisbane Rucks. I liked the look of McCauley in the game I saw him play. Griffin would be another (better) option but I'm unsure if he would come to Melbourne.
The problem with comparing stats is that gus has played as #1 ruck while Maric has played second fiddle, so the stats are never likely to stack up.
I would be very surprised if Maric was the only one they are looking at, just probably the only one we have heard about
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Someone on a forum put together a list of players who sort of fit within the grigg/houli recruiting mode, included on the list were Taylor Hunt from Geelong and John McCarthy from Collingwood. How do people see these two players. McCarthy is 23yo at 189cm, 82kg and can take a turn in the midfield whilst Hunt is 22yo 183cm and 84kgs who could probably take a role down back- because I havent seen alot of these two players what do people reckon- could they play a role for us. Both come from quality clubs who have already had a number of years put into their development. They also fit right into the middle of the age range that we should be looking at for cheap trades.
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GOLD Coast are seriously considering trading the No. 4 pick in this year's National Draft, with Suns coach Guy McKenna saying they needed to find more experienced players.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123549/default.aspx
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GOLD Coast are seriously considering trading the No. 4 pick in this year's National Draft, with Suns coach Guy McKenna saying they needed to find more experienced players.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123549/default.aspx
Foley and pick 14 for pick 4 and their first second round pick?
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:clapping
GOLD Coast are seriously considering trading the No. 4 pick in this year's National Draft, with Suns coach Guy McKenna saying they needed to find more experienced players.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123549/default.aspx
Foley and pick 14 for pick 4 and their first second round pick?
:clapping
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GOLD Coast are seriously considering trading the No. 4 pick in this year's National Draft, with Suns coach Guy McKenna saying they needed to find more experienced players.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123549/default.aspx
Foley and pick 14 for pick 4 and their first second round pick?
On traded for Gaff?
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Don't know why posters are so eager to give up one of midfielders.
The way McKenna has phrased it they are looking for experienced bodies to help out in defence and up forward.
They can have an experienced key defender in McGuane and our first for their number four.
Foley and 14 for pick four and about pick 35 is way too generous.
Look at some of the past trades in 2009 (a clean draft) where Hawthorn gave up picks 9 and 16 for Burgoyne and Carlton gave up pick 11 for McLean.
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Suns want a key forward for their pick 4...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/suns-ready-to-trade-top-pick-for-forward/
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Post?
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Someone on a forum put together a list of players who sort of fit within the grigg/houli recruiting mode, included on the list were Taylor Hunt from Geelong and John McCarthy from Collingwood. How do people see these two players.
Dunno about McCarthy but Geelong won't let Hunt go cheaply. He's a good young player.
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Post?
I presume you are looking for someone to "post" their thoughts on where GCs pick 4 might end up. Not that you would think that ..... surely..... Not?
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;D
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Suns want a key forward for their pick 4...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/suns-ready-to-trade-top-pick-for-forward/
How about westhoff + Nason + our compo pick...if that wasnt good enough, Id consider swapping westhoff for astbury
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Suns want a key forward for their pick 4...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/suns-ready-to-trade-top-pick-for-forward/
So much for them given the pick to GWS for a spot in the mini-draft.
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Cant see how we could get 4. The best we could do is either Post or Astbury + 14.
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Someone on a forum put together a list of players who sort of fit within the grigg/houli recruiting mode, included on the list were Taylor Hunt from Geelong and John McCarthy from Collingwood. How do people see these two players.
Dunno about McCarthy but Geelong won't let Hunt go cheaply. He's a good young player.
I thought it was an interesting list and these 2 players at least to me seemed like good fits. Hunt could play in defence and McCarthy could help out in the midfield. Geelong may have salary cap issues, so someone like Hunt may be gettable if he is out of contract.
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how about jayden post for no 4 pick straight swap :shh
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Suns want a key forward for their pick 4...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/suns-ready-to-trade-top-pick-for-forward/
"What would help? Danny Stanley helped in our forward line taking the hits, which helped Luke Russell and Brandon Matera late in the season, no different to (Campbell) Brown and (Nathan) Bock down back helping our young defenders get through."
Dunno whether that quote says he wants a forward particularly.
To me it suggests he wants bigger bodies both back and forward.
When you consider that he had Ablett, Rischitelli, Iles and Harris in midfield you see his point.
Considering he was using Rory Thompson (200 cm ruckman/forward) as a key back by years end would suggest a need.
PS I really want a trade for Luke.
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:lol
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Suns want a key forward for their pick 4...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/suns-ready-to-trade-top-pick-for-forward/
I am surprised no one has suggested Brad Miller. Would have thought he would have been top of everyone's list ;D
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Jackson Trengove, who we were linked to before he re-signed with Port, jointly won the Power's B&F with Travis Boak.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-pair-travis-boak-and-jackson-trengove-tie-in-best-and-fairest/story-e6frf9jf-1226139254808
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eff that club was bad this year
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stuff! Collingwood will send Dawes up there, get pick 4, trade it for O'Maeara......
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Suns want a key forward for their pick 4...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/16/suns-ready-to-trade-top-pick-for-forward/
I am surprised no one has suggested Brad Miller. Would have thought he would have been top of everyone's list ;D
just on BM, how peeed was he at the B&F...watch the vid... :cheers
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eff that club was bad this year
Yep. Him winning the B&F doesn't make me want him. poo club.
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But your right. At this early stage the club would be speaking to that many players. I have a sneaky feeling Chaplin or Carlile will be a KPD for the Tigers next year. And Astbury a CHF.
Carlile (sp?) is not an option having just re-signed a fortnight ago
I think its Chaplin personally. Its one of them though has been offered to us. Its a contracted player too.
Chaplin for our compo pick?
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Would take that! Chaplin is defiantly the type of back we need!
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Hard to see Chaplin leaving Port but getting him would be a big coup. 26 y.o. next year is a fraction on the older side but a 195cm and 100kg key defender fits the bill.
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Agree mightytiges. I too like Chaplin. Would be a good get.
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Would take that! Chaplin is defiantly the type of back we need!
At 26 he is 3 years to old for us IMHO.
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Would take that! Chaplin is defiantly the type of back we need!
At 26 he is 3 years to old for us IMHO.
Hopefully still has at least 3 years of senior footy ahead. Would be a good transition player for some of our younger defenders IMO.
Thursfield, McGuane and Moore are our senior backs and all are battlers (Moore's battle is injury).
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Btw even if Chaplin did want to leave Port and come Richmond, it would cost us more than just a compo pick.
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Btw even if Chaplin did want to leave Port and come Richmond, it would cost us more than just a compo pick.
Its Chaplin/Carlile/Grundy. Not sure which one. Whoever it is the club thinks it is massive massive unders.
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Now some in the media are just making things up. David Schwarz reckons Brian Lake is coming to Richmond ::).
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Now some in the media are just making things up. David Schwarz reckons Brian Lake is coming to Richmond ::).
I call rubbish early on this ;D
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Would take that! Chaplin is defiantly the type of back we need!
At 26 he is 3 years to old for us IMHO.
Hopefully still has at least 3 years of senior footy ahead. Would be a good transition player for some of our younger defenders IMO.
Thursfield, McGuane and Moore are our senior backs and all are battlers (Moore's battle is injury).
Not for the Compo pick IMHO. If we use that pick next year in a supposedly very strong draft, we would likely be getting a 10 year player, based on the recent recruiting efforts of FJ.
Far too high a price for a 26yr old KPD. Dangerfield on the other hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No chance though :(
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Now some in the media are just making things up. David Schwarz reckons Brian Lake is coming to Richmond ::).
I call rubbish early on this ;D
Well they have spoken to him, :gobdrop
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Now some in the media are just making things up. David Schwarz reckons Brian Lake is coming to Richmond ::).
I call rubbish early on this ;D
Well they have spoken to him, :gobdrop
Find that extremely hard to believe. Does not fit our recruiting model criteria at all. What is he, 30 years old or thereabouts?
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Btw even if Chaplin did want to leave Port and come Richmond, it would cost us more than just a compo pick.
Its Chaplin/Carlile/Grundy. Not sure which one. Whoever it is the club thinks it is massive massive unders.
That would be a good back line. Carlile Chaplins Grundys
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A caller to SEN earlier reckoned we were chasing Crow Patrick Dangerfield (although he could have just been reading BF). Dangerfield apparently signed a two-year deal in 2010 so SEN don't believe he is out of contract.
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PMSL.
reading BF and then ringing up a radio station with it.
If dangerfield is contracted, we aint talking to him, unless he instigated it, which i doubt.
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Young Ex-Vic Daniel Talia has re-signed with the Crows. So he's off the trade radar.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8303954
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Chaplin doesn't know the meaning of contested ball. Maric, Chaplin and effing Dan Jackson
wtf :lol
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PMSL.
reading BF and then ringing up a radio station with it.
That guy stole Ramps' method off here ;D.
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PMSL.
reading BF and then ringing up a radio station with it.
That guy stole Ramps' method off here ;D.
OER is where the big ideas come from ;D :lol
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This article back in June is what people are basing their rumours of Dangerfield leaving Adelaide on...
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/if-craig-goes-patrick-may-go-too/story-e6frecj3-1226078843938
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Bottom line he is contracted until the end of 2012 and I cannot see Adelaide trading him.
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According to whispers on 3aw, Crow Kurt Tippett is going to be traded to the Gold Coast.
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According to whispers on 3aw, Crow Kurt Tippett is going to be traded to the Gold Coast.
i reckon if the crows were offered No 4 theyd take that...and after the season tippet just had no 40 would probably be more appropriate :lol
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If The crows lose tippet would that change their position on Maric?
Surely he would figure more prominately in their future plans if they lost tippet?
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If The crows lose tippet would that change their position on Maric?
Surely he would figure more prominately in their future plans if they lost tippet?
You'd think so at least for insurance purposes al, but Tippets loss will be offset by McKernan getting more game time as he naturally progresses. They still have Moran as backup and Sellar who could pinch hit, so Ivan knows he's still at least number 4 in the pecking order if he stays.
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that would also be dependant on the views of Sanderson I suppose.
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Sellar should be delisted
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Sellar should be delisted
I believe that the Crows will be the 1st side in history to not delist a single player due to the number of players who have walked out/requested a trade.
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It's the West Lakes Waffles - thats what it is :chuck :yep They're a tad manky
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If The crows lose tippet would that change their position on Maric?
Surely he would figure more prominately in their future plans if they lost tippet?
You'd think so at least for insurance purposes al, but Tippets loss will be offset by McKernan getting more game time as he naturally progresses. They still have Moran as backup and Sellar who could pinch hit, so Ivan knows he's still at least number 4 in the pecking order if he stays.
Think Moran retired didn't he??
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......so Ivan knows he's still at least number 4 in the pecking order if he stays.
And that's a huge worry/indictment that we are chasing him.
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Brad Moran has retired.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moran-announcement-likely-today/story-e6frf9jf-1226126421375
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Someone was huge wraps for Moran to come to Richmond, if I recall correctly..... :lol
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inf
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The Crows are saying Tippett isn't going to the Gold Coast...
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/20/tippett-isn-t-going-to-suns-say-crows/
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Hahaha. Silly season is upon us.
FWIW callers on SEN today said Dawes is off to GWS and Malthouse is off to the Blues.
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FWIW callers on SEN today said Dawes is off to GWS...
Was calling it 6 weeks ago :thumbsup
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Relton Roberts told me Malthouse was going to be Prez of Richmond in 2013
He also told me what was really in chicken nuggets so I think he's trustworthy ;)
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Carlscum has announced officially that Ratts has gotten a two year deal so that heads off the Malthouse rumour pretty quickly.
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Relton Roberts told me Malthouse was going to be Prez of Richmond in 2013
He also told me what was really in chicken nuggets so I think he's trustworthy ;)
Brolga giblets in goanna oil?
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Freo supporter on BF:
"Don't shot the messenger, but I have heard from 2 different sources from the same Melbourne based club that Dangerfield has indicated he wants to return to Melbourne, and has nominated this club as his preferred destination. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22338965&postcount=50
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Freo supporter on BF:
"Don't shot the messenger, but I have heard from 2 different sources from the same Melbourne based club that Dangerfield has indicated he wants to return to Melbourne, and has nominated this club as his preferred destination. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22338965&postcount=50
Can't see the Crows trading him as he is contracted, also' they've just appointed a new coach, Sanderson isn't going to let him go
But then again .... he is very close to Neil Craig.... if we were to snag Craig....wouldn't the rumours then hit a new high
;D :rollin ;D
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Was always a fan of Rodney.. erm sorry yeah we'll take this chap kindly!! ;)
Would add some spark.. cough c u jackson cough cough
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Said during the year that Dangerfield is keen to return home. If its not this year or next he wont be at the Crows for his whole career.
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Said during the year that Dangerfield is keen to return home. If its not this year or next he wont be at the Crows for his whole career.
Whether he wants to come home or not is irrelevant.
The simple fact is he has contract tying him to Adel until the end of 2012. He can request a trade but that doesn't mean he will get traded. Certainly can walk out on them after 2012 but for next season it's the Crows you would think
As I keep saying I cannot see Adel trading him, especially with a new coach. Sanderson is not going to OK trading one of his top 5 players.
And if they were to trade him they want a 1st round pick inside the top 5 for him or a player of similar standard and to TBBH if he wanted to come to Richmond I can only see 3 players of ours the Crows would be interested in and all 3 are our untouchables IMHO
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Dangerfield overated IMO
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Dangerfield overated IMO
I agree
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I see where people could say dangerpiefld looks overrated , to me he looks like cotch of 12-18 months ago where every game he showed a glimpse but rarely putting it together to really make the impact on a game. Im sure with his talent he has his best footy in front of him and all power to whoever is luck enough to snaffle him
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Doesnt get the footy enough on a consistent basis. Some of his disposal is also questionable. Heaps of potential all the same.
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Overated? Danger?
Surely you mean in terms of what he might cost?
I'm an unabashed Danger fan, having him and Dusty tag teaming through the forward line and midfield would be freaking sexy!
not delusional though, will not happen.
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Doesnt get the footy enough on a consistent basis. Some of his disposal is also questionable. Heaps of potential all the same.
same things were said of cotch 12-18 months ago, believe you me :shh
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Doesnt get the footy enough on a consistent basis. Some of his disposal is also questionable. Heaps of potential all the same.
same things were said of cotch 12-18 months ago, believe you me :shh
Serious???... Both been around for the same amount of time.... Cotch is miles better!!!
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Doesnt get the footy enough on a consistent basis. Some of his disposal is also questionable. Heaps of potential all the same.
same things were said of cotch 12-18 months ago, believe you me :shh
Serious???... Both been around for the same amount of time.... Cotch is miles better!!!
Cotch is a long way infront at this stage of the proceedings IMHO.
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Just curious
Caro worte a story in today's AGE suggesting that St Kilda have salary cap pressures and may need to off load one of their "gun" players. In the article she suggested Goddard may be the one seeing he is coming out of contract at the end of 2012. I reckon they'd try and offload Kosi first
Personally I not really a fan of Goddard but I know there are those that are
So the question is if he (Goddard) was available should the RFC look at it and if yes what would you we'd need to give up
And just on Kosi (again not a fan) but would he be a better option than Maric ???
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Doesnt get the footy enough on a consistent basis. Some of his disposal is also questionable. Heaps of potential all the same.
same things were said of cotch 12-18 months ago, believe you me :shh
Serious???... Both been around for the same amount of time.... Cotch is miles better!!!
sorry, I thought I said same things were said of cotch 12 - 18 months ago...was that not clear ::)
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So the question is if he (Goddard) was available should the RFC look at it and if yes what would you we'd need to give up
He's under contract, so he'll cost more I reckon.
We'd have to give up something like pick 14 and Vickery or Deledio.
They could possibly get pick 3 and pick 5 or Jaeger O'Maeara from GWS.
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Deledio is our Goddard.
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Just curious
Caro worte a story in today's AGE suggesting that St Kilda have salary cap pressures and may need to off load one of their "gun" players. In the article she suggested Goddard may be the one seeing he is coming out of contract at the end of 2012. I reckon they'd try and offload Kosi first
Personally I not really a fan of Goddard but I know there are those that are
So the question is if he (Goddard) was available should the RFC look at it and if yes what would you we'd need to give up
And just on Kosi (again not a fan) but would he be a better option than Maric ???
Back from my walking Safari, what an experience BTW, stuck in the capital of Zambia, not allowed to travel..elections...
Anyway, yes to Goddard but no to Kosi..IMO
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CARLTON ruckman Shaun Hampson has agreed to terms with the Blues to remain at Princes Park until at least the end of 2014.
The tallest player on Carlton's list, besides 206cm ruckman Robbie Warnock, Hampson has signed a new three-year contract after attracting interest from several clubs.
It is understood he had no intention of leaving the club which recruited him out of Queensland with the overall 17th national draft selection in 2006.
Hampson had been linked to Richmond, but the Tigers have remained committed to securing out-of-contract back-up Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/hampsons-true-blue-until-2014/story-e6frg7mf-1226143019365
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how do these pricks keep em all paid?
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"The tallest player on Carlton's list, besides 206cm ruckman Robbie Warnock, Hampson has signed a new three-year contract after attracting interest from several clubs."
I could imagine the Hun asking media man from Carlton "what awards has his won"..... crickets..... "okay, there must be something else we can mention, I mean why sign him for 3 years?"...."ahhh, um well he's the tallest Player on our list......." "what about war...". "except for Warnock"
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Just curious
Caro worte a story in today's AGE suggesting that St Kilda have salary cap pressures and may need to off load one of their "gun" players. In the article she suggested Goddard may be the one seeing he is coming out of contract at the end of 2012. I reckon they'd try and offload Kosi first
Personally I not really a fan of Goddard but I know there are those that are
So the question is if he (Goddard) was available should the RFC look at it and if yes what would you we'd need to give up
And just on Kosi (again not a fan) but would he be a better option than Maric ???
Was thinking the same thing yesterday
goddard: probably not as GWS will offer plenty of $$ as well as the wealthier clubs
Kosi: Not sold on him either yet something I like about picking up a player like this, can play deep foward and ruckwork
Edited to correct quote
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Just curious
Caro worte a story in today's AGE suggesting that St Kilda have salary cap pressures and may need to off load one of their "gun" players. In the article she suggested Goddard may be the one seeing he is coming out of contract at the end of 2012. I reckon they'd try and offload Kosi first
Personally I not really a fan of Goddard but I know there are those that are
So the question is if he (Goddard) was available should the RFC look at it and if yes what would you we'd need to give up
And just on Kosi (again not a fan) but would he be a better option than Maric ???
You would take Goddard, but he would cost too much I fear.
Wouldn't touch Kosi, I reckon he is on par with Maric anyways atm. Kosi is very average and getting older.
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Kosi is crap and needs quality delivery or a crap defender to make him look good, would hesitate to trade Jacko for him
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Controversial Adelaide Crows tall Jack Gunston has at least five Victorian clubs chasing him, with the athletic forward meeting several suitors this week.
Hawthorn and North Melbourne are included in that mix, with Gunston determined to return to Victoria after two years in Adelaide.
Essendon are not one of those suitors despite his close links to the club, with the Bombers having enough tall targets.
It would not surprise to see Carlton inquiring about Gunston, given the Blues are searching for another tall forward.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/controversial-adelaide-crows-tall-forward-jack-gunston-has-at-least-five-victorian-clubs-chasing-him/story-e6frf3e3-1226143300901?from=public_rss
BRISBANE Lions coach Michael Voss says Mitch Clark is a required player, and insists the club will seek fair compensation if the out-of-contract utility gets his desired trade to Fremantle.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123883/default.aspx
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Voss wants a first round pick plus two players for trading Mitch Clark...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-wont-give-mitch-clark-away-in-fremantle-trade/story-fn69a32t-1226143684287
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how do these pricks keep em all paid?
wristies
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I imagine many are watching the same thing, but Barrett on the Footy Show just said that Zac Dawson may be available due to the Saints' salary cap issues.
(unrelated) Then he went on to say McGuane and Conners may want out. I wouldn't lose any sleep over either. In fact, I've been wanting McGuane gone as much as many of you would like Jackson gone.
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I imagine many are watching the same thing, but Barrett on the Footy Show just said that Zac Dawson may be available due to the Saints' salary cap issues.
(unrelated) Then he went on to say McGuane and Conners may want out. I wouldn't lose any sleep over either. In fact, I've been wanting McGuane gone as much as many of you would like Jackson gone.
I wanted us to cash in on McGuane's currency a few years ago when GC were circling. Wouldn't used plastic fork for him now.
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how do these pricks keep em all paid?
wristies
Environmental ambassadors at some company. ::)
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the most pathetic thing was to sign a GC raised player to a 3 year deal. That was a pathetic decision by the club.
He is worthless now
More chance of me impregnating Caro than getting anything better than a 4th rounder for this spud
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More chance of me impregnating Caro than getting anything better than a 4th rounder for this spud
^ don't want to read into this or seem presumptuous, but I'm assuming either Caro's not your type, she is unable to get pregnant or you're a very ugly man??!! :laugh:
...Mc G would struggle to be our no1 defender down at the Burgs now - Grimes, Astbury, Rance, Moore (if fit), Post etc all leap frogging him in the firsts - he'd struggle to play again...include him in a package for a "need" or take what we can & hope our recruiting staff earn their bucks by unearthing some talent late in the draft or from VFL/WAFL/SANFL etc...meant to be a weaker draft but apparently fairly even spread of decent talent after the first 12 - 15picks...plus we've seen the value of a good pick of a slightly more mature age player by other clubs...
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Sticking up for Caro = alarm bells :police:
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
Apparently the Bombers forum are interested in Jackstar but are unsure if they have enough useless information for him to dig up and twist into absolute crap....Fact!
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:lol
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
Apparently the Bombers forum are interested in Jackstar but are unsure if they have enough useless information for him to dig up and twist into absolute crap....Fact!
:thatsgold
:cheers
;D
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Begs the question, can we trade site members to other forums, and what is fair compensation?
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I'd want at least a fourth rounder for Gerks.
:lol
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Rumor is that Bomberblitz is looking to lure a seasoned poster for a 3 pack of blank beta cassetes and a french tickler
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Poor jack he bleeds Y & B and has performed on the front line year in year out,and yet the club is going to trade him.Where has club loyalty gone?
Cheers jack ,wherever you end up you will always be remembered .Do a Brad ottens and go and play in premiershps
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I'd want at least a fourth rounder for Gerks.
:lol
Gerks is determined to fight for his spot on the OER roster.
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Just on GT's suggestion, is a mars bar and a coke too much for Mcintosh?
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Back to the topic ppl!
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
Well according to bomberblitz
Hille + 2nd rounder (or Hooker) for Deledio who they have offered a 4 year deal.
They'll be willing to throw in Dyson as well because if Houli can finish 4th in our B&F then apparently Dyson will definitely play every game for us.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63110
:rollin :stupid
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Not worth it ::)
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so they want an over the hill hooker for Deledio?
:lol
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send them a bottle of brasso and a chux because they are nothing but knob polishers.
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Essendon supporters are just working out that they are about to get stranded for years in mid table lol. Anyway tried to look at the link and its supposedly now not working or something.
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lol....I love these two quotes...."Is this the bloke with orange hair who gets reported every week?"
Reply........"That would be Daniel Jackson.. the other ranga moron at Richmond." :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63123&st=30
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lol....I love these two quotes...."Is this the bloke with orange hair who gets reported every week?"
Reply........"That would be Daniel Jackson.. the other ranga moron at Richmond." :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63123&st=30
LOL they want him as pay back for Houli. Last comment about PSD made me LOL as he is contracted so we can't get raped.
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but but but i thought they said houli was a dud and wouldnt get a game in their side? and now they want payback?
how's ben nason and a pack of cream chargers sound?
eff wits :lol
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Class and Essendon supporters are mutually exclusive terms.
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but but but i thought they said houli was a dud and wouldnt get a game in their side? and now they want payback?
how's ben nason and a pack of cream chargers sound?
eff wits :lol
We already gave them Matty Knights though ;)
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I love the way clubs who got dudded by us in previous trades have an 'expectation' that we will square back up with them. Adelaide, Esssendon etc......
Im not sure whether its a Generation Y 'the world owes me' belief, or just an arrogance which is derived from years of riding the coat tails of success and lucky breaks at the draft table......
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Probably all of the above DD :thumbsup
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I love the way clubs who got dudded by us in previous trades have an 'expectation' that we will square back up with them. Adelaide, Esssendon etc......
Im not sure whether its a Generation Y 'the world owes me' belief, or just an arrogance which is derived from years of riding the coat tails of success and lucky breaks at the draft table......
JON Ralph said exactly the same thing on SEN when i asked him about Maric "Its only fair Richmond give that compo pick back"
Is it just me or is that the most pathetic thing ever heard and his a Richmond man
Adelaide and Bombers can go get stuffed
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I love the way clubs who got dudded by us in previous trades have an 'expectation' that we will square back up with them. Adelaide, Esssendon etc......
Im not sure whether its a Generation Y 'the world owes me' belief, or just an arrogance which is derived from years of riding the coat tails of success and lucky breaks at the draft table......
JON Ralph said exactly the same thing on SEN when i asked him about Maric "Its only fair Richmond give that compo pick back"
Is it just me or is that the most pathetic thing ever heard and his a Richmond man
Adelaide and Bombers can go get stuffed
Maybe Ralphy is trolling Adelaide. If so then..... :bow
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JON Ralph said exactly the same thing on SEN when i asked him about Maric "Its only fair Richmond give that compo pick back"
Is it just me or is that the most pathetic thing ever heard and his a Richmond man
Agree with you daniel
it wasn't the RFC's fault that Adelaide gave up what they did for Tambling. All the RFC did was ask and we somehow managed to receive. Not our fault they paid above the odds ;D
Same thing will happed with Maric, Adeliade will ask and the only difference being they won't receive... ;D
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Only fair we give that compo back :lol LMAO give us Ward and Ottens back then
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and Schulzzzzzz :sleep
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Ralphy's comments are simply astounding.
We are in the box seat with Maric because he is out of contract and wants out. Adelaide will get what their given. Which will hopefully be sweet FA!
suck it, Crows.
Still cant believe how much we stuffed them with the Tampon trade!
:santa
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and Schulzzzzzz :sleep
haha forgot about that old sock. they tamblinged us
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
I heard there would be no rumours again today because rumour has it that the players & WAGS are all getting their hair & nails done (just ask Lids about his "do") and that's taking up so much time there isn't any time left for rumours and innuendo
Sadly ;)
But if you want me to make one up I will
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
I heard there would be no rumours again today because rumour has it that the players & WAGS are all getting their hair & nails done (just ask Lids about his "do") and that's taking up so much time there isn't any time left for rumours and innuendo
Sadly ;)
But if you want me to make one up I will
I have a rumour, its that I will go onto bigfooty at some stage of the proceedings, I will make up a nice rumour about a star player who will supposedly come to Richmond for nix and then I will sit back eat some pop corn drinking a can of coke and have a good laugh and if that doesnt work, I will go to the true and tried rumour, the rumour of the ages - that Aboriginal sensation Jim Boogie is being kept underwraps by one clubs recruiting department, I havent decided which club this time, maybe Essendon probably coz they seem desperate enough to believe it and there'll be lots of laughs for the rest of us. Good rumour I reckon ;D
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the stiffening breeze is that we've offered morton to melbourne for stefan martin
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No rumours today? Come on guys...at least make 1 up!!!
I heard there would be no rumours again today because rumour has it that the players & WAGS are all getting their hair & nails done (just ask Lids about his "do") and that's taking up so much time there isn't any time left for rumours and innuendo
Sadly ;)
But if you want me to make one up I will
I have a rumour, its that I will go onto bigfooty at some stage of the proceedings, I will make up a nice rumour about a star player who will supposedly come to Richmond for nix and then I will sit back eat some pop corn drinking a can of coke and have a good laugh and if that doesnt work, I will go to the true and tried rumour, the rumour of the ages - that Aboriginal sensation Jim Boogie is being kept underwraps by one clubs recruiting department, I havent decided which club this time, maybe Essendon probably coz they seem desperate enough to believe it and there'll be lots of laughs for the rest of us. Good rumour I reckon ;D
Hey mate, do you have a link to the Boogie man, I cant seem to find anything when I google him??
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Was listening to MMM as i pulled up in the driveway and they had just caught Bachar Houli at the brownlow, so they prompted him to have a chat in which he did.
Gary lyon asked him about his performance this year and about the tigs.
Bachars reponse was about how we are a young team developing etc etc.
The one thing that stuck with me (and maybe Im reading into it too much or not)
He said: yeah It will be interesting to see who the club pickups in the next 12 months., then he paused and tried to get out of that topic
Thats when I was thinking to myself, Surely they know whats going on, there must be a strong plan and on that they probably will be aggresive during trade season and will then back that up during free agency to bolster the arsenal in which we need to move towards the top
Maybe Im just being dellusional :pray :lol
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The swear filter cracks me up every time I see arsenal.
:lol
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and Schulzzzzzz :sleep
just saw him at the brownlow ;D how he pulls women i dont know
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and Schulzzzzzz :sleep
just saw him at the brownlow ;D how he pulls women i dont know
Its the coca-cola he provides :whistle
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and Schulzzzzzz :sleep
just saw him at the brownlow ;D how he pulls women i dont know
Its the coca-cola he provides :whistle
Penchant. Agreed. Yes.
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According to one of the purple poufs we have/had Michael walters from freo in our sights.
Take it with a big grain of salt but I've heard 3rd hand that Richmond officials have met with Walters. Apparently a deal was all but done before Harvey got sacked so things might change. Didn't say what we would get but I'm thinking a pick upgrade.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22301191&postcount=24
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what type is walters al? never heard of him :o
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i must be going crazy also, I thought he was a hollywood c grade actor :lol
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what type is walters al? never heard of him :o
20yo, 177cm yet solid aboriginal small forward.
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what type is walters al? never heard of him :o
20yo, 177cm yet solid aboriginal small forward.
Relton Roberts solid?
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what type is walters al? never heard of him :o
20yo, 177cm yet solid aboriginal small forward.
Relton Roberts solid?
Nah nah, foley like build
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what type is walters al? never heard of him :o
Neither had i until a short while ago
From these clips looks to be a good mark and nice kick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgX-1e4CeU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3NnBvT5BU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P1QvTPUoiY
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Will be one of our best kicks if trade gets done. Left shoe is ridiculously good. Kicked 3 in the semi vs Geelong when they were thumped and was their best player according to Freo fans. Would like him at Richmond. He can toss the coin at Dreamtime ;D
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Not bad at all
Good to see he was in good company, nic nat, yarran and Hill
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he goes alright
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sonny walters, this is the kid that grew up living next to naitanui and yarran
think he has been a bit injury prone so far, some of that fitness related
hard little mid/fwd with great skills though, will be 22 next year
might do well to get out of perth and see how his previously injury prone and 'underprepared' mate yaz is doing it at a big vic club
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Comment From SkippaSkippa: ]
Word is Connors, McGuane, Nason, Morton & Tuck all set to leave tigerland, who do you think we will get in return?
Wednesday September 28, 2011 1:35 Skippa
1:36 Not sure why Connors wants out, but he does. They stuck by him through that Sydney incident with Ben Cousins, then he had repeated calf injuries this year.
Tuck is getting one more year with a new contract and think Nason will head to Adelaide in the Maric deal. Maric will definitely get to Richmond.
Morton wouldn't attract much. Think GWS his only chance
Comment From tomtom: ]
any players going to tigerland apart from maric?
Wednesday September 28, 2011 1:50 tom
1:51 Tigers want to get aggressive, but the pool of available players is pretty slim.
Spoke to Daniel Jackson at the b and f and he said rumours about him going elsewhere were false - he wants to stay. :(
I thought maybe with all the mids they had Nathan Foley might get squeezed out if they wanted to trade, but the Tigers love him.
People high up used expressions like, ''We want to add to our midfield, not trade it away''. He is still out of contract though
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/how-dane-swan-won-the-brownlow-without-stats/story-fn6cisdj-1226148277509
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I asked Ralphy a question:
1:59 Comment From JVT
Ralphy, you said not long ago 'it's only fair' that the Tigers give up that compo pick to Adelaide for Maric . . . Are you dreaming mate? Should the Bulldogs give us Pick 19 back because McMahon was a dud? Should Hawks give Essendon another Pick 16 because Mark Williams only played a handful of games for them? Ridiculous thought process by you mate!
2:00 I like your McMahon analogy. What is fair then? How do they get Maric if Adelaide just play hard ball cos they feel they got shafted over the Tambling deal.
Point well made
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My follow up comment didn't get through which was saying that we hold all the cards as Maric is out of contract and can go into the PSD for nothing, just as Bachar did when Essendon played hard ball. :wallywink
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From a Carlton fan on BF:
"I've heard that Richmond are monitoring the Scott Thompson situation at North Melbourne.
Dispute over money."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22430671&postcount=783
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From a Carlton fan on BF:
"I've heard that Richmond are monitoring the Scott Thompson situation at North Melbourne.
Dispute over money."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22430671&postcount=783
I've heard we aren't a fan. I'll back myself in over a Carlscum supporter :lol
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I asked Ralphy a question:
1:59 Comment From JVT
Ralphy, you said not long ago 'it's only fair' that the Tigers give up that compo pick to Adelaide for Maric . . . Are you dreaming mate? Should the Bulldogs give us Pick 19 back because McMahon was a dud? Should Hawks give Essendon another Pick 16 because Mark Williams only played a handful of games for them? Ridiculous thought process by you mate!
2:00 I like your McMahon analogy. What is fair then? How do they get Maric if Adelaide just play hard ball cos they feel they got shafted over the Tambling deal.
Point well made
Good to see you brought up his ridiculous call from previous chats.
If Adelaide play hard ball just tell Maric to walk or is he still contracted? Plus surely we aren't that desperate to over pay for Maric. If they want a first round pick RFC should just walk away.
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I asked Ralphy a question:
1:59 Comment From JVT
Ralphy, you said not long ago 'it's only fair' that the Tigers give up that compo pick to Adelaide for Maric . . . Are you dreaming mate? Should the Bulldogs give us Pick 19 back because McMahon was a dud? Should Hawks give Essendon another Pick 16 because Mark Williams only played a handful of games for them? Ridiculous thought process by you mate!
2:00 I like your McMahon analogy. What is fair then? How do they get Maric if Adelaide just play hard ball cos they feel they got shafted over the Tambling deal.
Point well made
Good to see you brought up his ridiculous call from previous chats.
If Adelaide play hard ball just tell Maric to walk or is he still contracted? Plus surely we aren't that desperate to over pay for Maric. If they want a first round pick RFC should just walk away.
Un-contracted. They asked and we told them to pee off.
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I asked Ralphy a question:
1:59 Comment From JVT
Ralphy, you said not long ago 'it's only fair' that the Tigers give up that compo pick to Adelaide for Maric . . . Are you dreaming mate? Should the Bulldogs give us Pick 19 back because McMahon was a dud? Should Hawks give Essendon another Pick 16 because Mark Williams only played a handful of games for them? Ridiculous thought process by you mate!
2:00 I like your McMahon analogy. What is fair then? How do they get Maric if Adelaide just play hard ball cos they feel they got shafted over the Tambling deal.
Point well made
i love it..hahahahahahahahaha
after my SEN question i dont think he would be saying its fair anymore..
:thumbsup
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Comment From tom
any players going to tigerland apart from maric?
Jon Ralph:
Tigers want to get aggressive, but the pool of available players is pretty slim.
Spoke to Daniel Jackson at the b and f and he said rumours about him going elsewhere were false - he wants to stay.
I thought maybe with all the mids they had Nathan Foley might get squeezed out if they wanted to trade, but the Tigers love him.
People high up used expressions like, ''We want to add to our midfield, not trade it away''. He is still out of contract though
Comment From guest
Any chance of Lake coming to Richmond a trade for either gus or browne and maybe mguane??
Jon Ralph:
Lake is the last thing Richmond want. They want all their bloke maturing together so they can win the premiership. He might only have two years left. Really liked the development years of Rance and Grimes. I fear for Kel Moore though. Four hip ops in a year. Not a great sign
Comment From Marcus
Don't be so sure that Mitch Clarke is going to Perth. He has 2 very interested Victorian clubs willing to offer him a large sum of money.
Jon Ralph:
Yeah, that's what I am hearing about Clark. He wants $500K a year though
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/how-dane-swan-won-the-brownlow-without-stats/story-fn6cisdj-1226148277509
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Scott Thompson has re-signed for 3 years.
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David Schwarz on SEN said we're talking to Carlton about some trade.
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David Schwarz on SEN said we're talking to Carlton about some trade.
As Ralphy would suggest maybe we given them something back to make up for Colin's not playing as much as Grigg did for us.
But seriously. Didn't Ratten say they was going after a key forward. We don't have any in surplus so I wonder who we're or they are going for. Maybe its a 3 way trade.
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interesting to say the least, wouldnt suprise if we offered a 4th rounder to get collins back knowing how much we rated him :shh
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David Schwarz on SEN said we're talking to Carlton about some trade.
Hopefully it's something like Morton for their first rounder ;D
We better not be touching Brick McLean...
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Kane Lucas is the one Id be looking at from Carlton. High draft pick wasnt getting a game, a good kick of the footy. Would be good outside predominantly on a wing.
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Collins was injured I think. Grigg hasn't set the world alight so stuff them anyway, Collins was a proven goal kicker for us.
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Collins was injured I think. Grigg hasn't set the world alight so stuff them anyway, Collins was a proven goal kicker for us.
Calm down Owl, you starting to sound like Jon Ralph :gobdrop ;D ;D Collins was half the thickness of a match stick that got injured for them when the wind blew him over :lol Grigg is a lazy SOB who needs to HTFU but has way more upside than Collins ever did.....
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still not paying carlton anything else for him they got what they got that's trade was done.
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David Schwarz on SEN said we're talking to Carlton about some trade.
We will have to start calling Schwartz Scoop
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I believe carlton were interested in Morton and connors last year and got collins...perhaps they're still interested :o
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I believe Schwarz said it was a 'small trade'. Thinking we are probably sending McGuane for a late pick. Rumour is that 2 clubs are after his services. Can't see us picking up one of their players.
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I believe Schwarz said it was a 'small trade'. Thinking we are probably sending McGuane for a late pick. Rumour is that 2 clubs are after his services. Can't see us picking up one of their players.
God help them! Might aswell draft me.
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GREATER Western Sydney is unlikely to sign any more uncontracted players this year.
The Giants have netted Melbourne's Tom Scully, Bulldog Callan Ward, Fremantle's Rhys Palmer and Adelaide's Phil Davis in the past few weeks but that is likely to be their only batch for this season according to GWS list manager Stephen Silvagni.
"At this stage we're pretty much done, obviously we've got trade week to get through but in terms of the uncontracted we are pretty much done," Silvagni told Melbourne radio station 3AW on Friday night.
"Most people are quite aware we can go again next year. We are being quite patient in terms of the uncontracted signings."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124465/default.aspx
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This doesnt debunk the foley rumour.
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Sure doesn't, cmon GWS make us an offer of indecent proportions
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This doesnt debunk the foley rumour.
If anything it adds fuel to it. "obviously we've got trade week" implies they will get players in trade week. Foley im pretty sure is contracted. That's what i heard from someone at the club.
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Im not going to enjoy the Lids thing hanging over our heads all year. I mean if that nub Scully gets two first rounders, what is Lids worth then? He was a top pick and is a proven better player with plenty of years left.
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It's entirely dependent on what they're paid at the new club.
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Scary. If Sheedy borks us, it will be more than chicken poop being delivered to GWS, it will be stuffing anthrax.
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If we traded Foley to GWS, would they still be able to go after Lids next year? I'm guessing they still would be as I think they only aren't allowed to poach two uncontracted players.
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no think they can only poach one per club. Other one would have to be a trade.
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If we traded Foley they still could get Lids. This is because Foley is contracted and the trade would be for a pick in the mini draft. They allowed one uncontracted player per club.
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On the match preview Roar Vision for Lids' 150th, he mentioned that only Newman was ahead of him for games played and no finals and said that he'll leave the title to Newman. I would imagine playing finals footy would be a big thing in the back of his mind and is hopefully enough of a deterrent. Lids would be on a lot more coin than Scully would of been at Melbourne and doesn't he go on veteran status in a few years?
I agree it's going to be a bit poop and there will be much media speculation all year but for some reason I'm feeling we'll be OK. Hopefully anyway.
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yeah just hate to have it hanging over us like it was with Geelong and Melbourne, would be a big distraction to the season.
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Watching the grand final just confirmed to me that to win you need A grade players and the truth is we dont have enough - just make sure we make GWS pay through the nose for Foley. That means pick 1 in the U17draft and a prelisted player IMHO.
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Watching the grand final just confirmed to me that to win you need A grade players and the truth is we dont have enough - just make sure we make GWS pay through the nose for Foley. That means pick 1 in the U17draft and a prelisted player IMHO.
Agree 100%.
Also showed you can have all the best coaches in world and resources and supporters but what matters at the end of the day is a quality list. You can't carry anyone when being successful you need 22 quality players. Can't carry a poor Didak, Blair etc. Cats had 22 contributors and won a flag. This is why Saints couldn't win a flag as there bottom 5 players were horrible 2 seasons in a row.
No point pushing for finals when you have a half finished list, no point hoping D grade players may turn into C graders. Flush them out and gamble on a state player there are some gems out there (Harry Taylor, Nick Duigan, Podsiadly, Barlow etc.) Stop wasting our time RFC on players we hope to make it, turn over the list and roll the dice on untried talent instead of failed talent that may come good.
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Im not going to enjoy the Lids thing hanging over our heads all year. I mean if that nub Scully gets two first rounders, what is Lids worth then? He was a top pick and is a proven better player with plenty of years left.
Its up to Richmond to sell him the dream. That means the club has an obligation to bring more A grade players to the team. That means players like Foley should be traded for the right deal and players like Jackson and White should be moved on. Deledio will not leave Richmond if he thinks that a flag is possible, but its up to the Footy Dept to make him believe, the likes of Jackson and White and Foley have been around for years but we havent done anything as a club. Its time for changes and its time for more A grade players or players like O'Meara who will develop into A graders in the next 2 or 3 years.
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Sure doesn't, cmon GWS make us an offer of indecent proportions
make us an offer ........
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In my opinion all the big signings to expansion clubs the clubs losing players have won out big time. Scully for 2 first round draft picks is a win if they trade correctly as is Ablett for 2 first rounders. 2 first rounders for the Premiers next year if they want.. unbelieveable.
If we lose Lids we'd get the same probably Pick 1 and a late first round. Would any club give up 2 first round picks for Lids? Would you get rid of 2 first round picks for Scully? Probably not. Clubs are winning out with compensation IMO.
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IMHO I believe that Deledio should be a priority for us to keep. Foley is not a priority for the right deal. Thats why a deal that sees us get pick 1 in the u17draft should be done if we have the chance to do it. We need more A graders. Its that simple IMHO.
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IMHO I believe that Deledio should be a priority for us to keep. Foley is not a priority for the right deal. Thats why a deal that sees us get pick 1 in the u17draft should be done if we have the chance to do it. We need more A graders. Its that simple IMHO.
100% agree, would think Deledios contract is just about the most important thing for RFC admin I would have thought.
With Foley returning to fitness and form, I think we'd deserve something more than pick 1 in U/17s draft.
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All will be revealed in 2 weeks. Itll be interesting to see if RFC has finally developed the courage to pull the trigger on doing some big trades and moving on some fan favorites.
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Watching the grand final just confirmed to me that to win you need A grade players and the truth is we dont have enough - just make sure we make GWS pay through the nose for Foley. That means pick 1 in the U17draft and a prelisted player IMHO.
spot on 10flags - bottom line is we need a lot more quality to get into that type of position. Too many D for dud players still on our list - you can carry 2-3-4 of these types IF they do a role really well (look at the saints and even collingwood) but we seem to have more than several and we seem to keep them on the list year after year. Get rid of them and keep turning over until you find a diamond in the rough, without trying you will never find them
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All will be revealed in 2 weeks. Itll be interesting to see if RFC has finally developed the courage to pull the trigger on doing some big trades and moving on some fan favorites.
We've both been calling it for a long time Ramps, we will celebrate if it happens lol
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Watching the grand final just confirmed to me that to win you need A grade players and the truth is we dont have enough - just make sure we make GWS pay through the nose for Foley. That means pick 1 in the U17draft and a prelisted player IMHO.
spot on 10flags - bottom line is we need a lot more quality to get into that type of position. Too many D for dud players still on our list - you can carry 2-3-4 of these types IF they do a role really well (look at the saints and even collingwood) but we seem to have more than several and we seem to keep them on the list year after year. Get rid of them and keep turning over until you find a diamond in the rough, without trying you will never find them
Saints had too many to get over the line. They have/had a seriously good top end to their list but their 16-22 blokes were pretty garbage and it cost them dearly. Even the Pies today were let down by their bottom 6. Didak, Blair, Brown, Didak. Krak would be the only one who stepped up and he disappeared in the 2nd half.
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the best way to ensure delideo stays is to play finals next year.
pretty simple really.
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I don't beleive he'll go, but if we could get 2 high quality players for him I wouldnt be crying in my cereal.
Deledio is a very very good player, but he's not a match winner. That probably has a lot to do with his position on the HBF.
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I think he could be when he moves further up the ground absolutely. In fact it is lids when he does push up that does create those critical plays and kicks those important goals on a lot of occasions but as you say his current position precludes him from doing this more often. I think it is time he moved further forward.
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OK, just killing time untill it's safe to go pick up our car.
On PRE there are claims we are in negotiations with carlton over Kane Lucas.
dug up this on kane;
Ive heard Kane Lucas is pretty dirty on Carlton, as are his family.
He was played last year despite telling the medical staff his hamstring felt like it was going to ping.
Was told to get on with it and proceeded to nearly rip it from the bone.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20151086&postcount=23
followed up with;
Straight from an Assistant coach at Brisbane who had a fair bit to do with him.
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...plenty of rumours that we have been discussing a "smaller" trade with Carlton so that would make some sense...he's the right age & while he didn't get much time last year, has shown a bit in his few hit outs...was a top 20 pick from memory (12 - 15 ish??) so obviously has some potential - not sure if he'll develop into more than depth but as we've seen from the good teams, you need a list of 30+ players to pick from not just your 22 best...if we got him cheaply I wouldn't be upset & we've gotta back BH to continue to unearth players from other lists with potential...still not the big fish Dimma was talking about (I hope :) )
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what "big fish" comment did dimma make?
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Yes elaborate please
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The snapper he probably brought for his family last weekend ;D
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:lol
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that link don't work for me is Bigfooty in meltdown or something?
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the link i posted?
works ok for me.
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what "big fish" comment did dimma make?
^ they stated that we intended to be active in trade week, had the cash & recruitment staff and were intent on landing a big fish...
might be all "huff & puff"...I'll see if I can find the link it's related too...pretty sure that was when the Dangerfield rumour gathered some momentum...
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what "big fish" comment did dimma make?
^ they stated that we intended to be active in trade week, had the cash & recruitment staff and were intent on landing a big fish...
might be all "huff & puff"...I'll see if I can find the link it's related too...pretty sure that was when the Dangerfield rumour gathered some momentum...
I'm fairly sure the "big fish" comment he made was in reference to Free Agency 2012.
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so am i. didnt think it was dimma who said it though?
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so am i. didnt think it was dimma who said it though?
Yeah, it was Al. Said it when they were announcing the FTF at the start of the year and as RFCO said, it was in reference to landing a big fish when free agency comes in in 2012.
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cheers smokey
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Nothing to do with Richmond but Jack Gunston has nominated Hawthorn as his preferred club to be traded to.
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Nothing to do with Richmond but Jack Gunston has nominated Hawthorn as his preferred club to be traded to.
I reckon plenty of players would nominate a 2012 flag contender as their preferred club to be traded to :p
Anyway, I just wanted to add some food for thought. A brief disclaimer to say that I'm not suggesting or endorsing this but purely putting it up (so I don't get my head ripped off!). What about Goldsack from Collingwood as a direct upgrade on McDud and Thursfield? Been keen to resign to the Pies all year but no luck. Possibly they were waiting or the coaching handover to decide on lists. Played out the season and the finals only to get dropped in the granny for an unfit Reid. If I remember correctly he averaged 13 disposals and 3 tackles off half back. 194'ish cm and close to 90 kegs (just on my phone so can't easily look junk up sorry).
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Nothing to do with Richmond but Jack Gunston has nominated Hawthorn as his preferred club to be traded to.
I reckon plenty of players would nominate a 2012 flag contender as their preferred club to be traded to :p
Anyway, I just wanted to add some food for thought. A brief disclaimer to say that I'm not suggesting or endorsing this but purely putting it up (so I don't get my head ripped off!). What about Goldsack from Collingwood as a direct upgrade on McDud and Thursfield? Been keen to resign to the Pies all year but no luck. Possibly they were waiting or the coaching handover to decide on lists. Played out the season and the finals only to get dropped in the granny for an unfit Reid. If I remember correctly he averaged 13 disposals and 3 tackles off half back. 194'ish cm and close to 90 kegs (just on my phone so can't easily look junk up sorry).
Ive always been a fan of moneybags, can play a bit. Big upgrade on McGuane and Thursty. Is at a good age too
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I'm not sure of his ability outside of being in a good team but was just thinking of who might be available. Not sure if we have anything Collingwood would be interested in anyway. I imagine they're only looking to top up to roll the dice again next year.
I thought his experience might be handy, especially due to being the right age and could relate to most of our blokes.
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Carlton in bid for Goddard
By Kim Hagdorn
3 October 2011 12:25PM EST
CARLTON could mount an audacious poaching bid in attempts to lure tough St Kilda on-baller Brendon Goddard away from the Saints.
Goddard, 26, is contracted to the Saints for next season.
But he could emerge as a prime candidate for a trade as his beleaguered club battle a projected hefty financial loss for this year as well as plans to spend a minimum of only 92.5 per cent of next year’s salary cap.
It is understood that Goddard is willing to consider a move as the Saints manage salary cap issues but will only consider switching to a club on the verge of a premiership.
Goddard, running half-back Sam Gilbert, key defender Zac Dawson, utility Farren Ray and winger Brett Peake in recent weeks have all been linked with possible moves out of St Kilda on the back of the shock walk-out from coach Ross Lyon.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/03/carlton-in-bid-for-goddard/
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What would be Goddard be worth to the Blues?
Two 1st round picks plus a player? Wouldnt be any less due to being contracted.
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how the hell are they going to fit him in the cap? give me a break - no chance they have cap space
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uh, it's Kim Hagdorn
sportsnewsfirst articles should be banned from this site
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how the hell are they going to fit him in the cap? give me a break - no chance they have cap space
They have room. About 500-600. Which would/should be filled with the rest of Juddy's Visy contract. They have room for one more player. Can't see the point in them going for Goddard. They need a stuffing key forward!!
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how the hell are they going to fit him in the cap? give me a break - no chance they have cap space
They have room. About 500-600. Which would/should be filled with the rest of Juddy's Visy contract. They have room for one more player. Can't see the point in them going for Goddard. They need a stuffing key forward!!
staggering - they re-signed Murphy this season to hold off GWS, Hampson, they have Gibbs, Kruezer to re-sign in the coming few years as well as a few other keys. Incredible...
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how the hell are they going to fit him in the cap? give me a break - no chance they have cap space
They have room. About 500-600. Which would/should be filled with the rest of Juddy's Visy contract. They have room for one more player. Can't see the point in them going for Goddard. They need a stuffing key forward!!
staggering - they re-signed Murphy this season to hold off GWS, Hampson, they have Gibbs, Kruezer to re-sign in the coming few years as well as a few other keys. Incredible...
Yes, but where is half Juddy's contract? Also half their 22 are plodders. Joseph, Thornton, O'HelpMe, Armfield, Henderson, Robinson, Laidler & Duigan on very little as well.
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Mitch Robinson is a gun.
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Mitch Robinson is a gun.
Sorry should hav been a full stop between hender-dud and robinson ;D
Wouldn't be on much coin. Wouldn't call him a gun mind u :-X
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Mitch Robinson is a gun.
Sorry should hav been a full stop between hender-dud and robinson ;D
Wouldn't be on much coin. Wouldn't call him a gun mind u :-X
I Rate him highly. He's what Jackson and Grigg should be.
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Mitch Robinson is a gun.
Sorry should hav been a full stop between hender-dud and robinson ;D
Wouldn't be on much coin. Wouldn't call him a gun mind u :-X
I Rate him highly. He's what Jackson and Grigg should be.
I doubt Robinson is getting traded ;)
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What would be Goddard be worth to the Blues?
Two 1st round picks plus a player? Wouldnt be any less due to being contracted.
The Blues would need a top 5 pick plus their first rounder at the very least to grab Goddard. I would add a decent young player too in there. Basically almost what they paid for Judd. So they need to tempt GWS or the Suns with a top 6 player to gain a top 5 pick otherwise this is just media fantasy.
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Robinson is a GUN.
Agree willy
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Mitch Robinson is a gun.
Sorry should hav been a full stop between hender-dud and robinson ;D
Wouldn't be on much coin. Wouldn't call him a gun mind u :-X
I Rate him highly. He's what Jackson and Grigg should be.
I doubt Robinson is getting traded ;)
as do I. Just pointing out that he is not a plodder as you described him.
Not sure what your wink was for, but here's one back. ;)
:police:
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uh, it's Kim Hagdorn
sportsnewsfirst articles should be banned from this site
^ this.... :cheers
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So what are the dates of trade week please??
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So what are the dates of trade week please??
October 10-17: AFL Trade Week, Etihad Stadium
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So what are the dates of trade week please??
October 10-17: AFL Trade Week, Etihad Stadium
Very good, cheers.
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Are the having the Trade week Radio again this year?
Im assuming they would but does anyone know for sure.
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Are the having the Trade week Radio again this year?
Im assuming they would but does anyone know for sure.
Yes, it was mentioned of Hutchy's Draft thingy show on Sunday :thumbsup
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You guys are freakin hilarious. Better than Lamebook.
Robinson hits fewer targets than a blind archer/axeman. And he is better than Jackson ???? Think you may want to watch a few more Blues games.
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You guys are freakin hilarious. Better than Lamebook.
Robinson hits fewer targets than a blind archer/axeman. And he is better than Jackson ???? Think you may want to watch a few more Blues games.
He is better than Jackson. By a long long way. Robinson actually impacts games. If Jackson was half as good as Robinson you could make a case to keep him but sadly hes no where near Robinson at this stage of the proceedings.
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You guys are freakin hilarious. Better than Lamebook.
Robinson hits fewer targets than a blind archer/axeman. And he is better than Jackson ???? Think you may want to watch a few more Blues games.
I cant stand that prick Robinson, is on par with Milne, just wanna see him get smacked around on the ground.
Having said that, he is leagues in front of Jackson, as Flagman said, he actually impacts games.
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I Rate him highly. He's what Jackson and Grigg should be.
What a sniper ;D
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You guys are freakin hilarious. Better than Lamebook.
Robinson hits fewer targets than a blind archer/axeman. And he is better than Jackson ???? Think you may want to watch a few more Blues games.
Whoahh. Are you serious?
Jackson wouldn't even be close to getting a game in the Carltank midfield. That alone, proves my point.
Robinson is a very good player, in my mind. As others have said, he impacts games regularly with speed a sheer grunt. Polled a few votes int the Charlie too, i believe.
So far ahead of Wackson it aint funny.
Pull your head out.
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Robinson is no gun. A psychotic foot soldier. Has some explosive games but also has some stuffing poo ones. C grader. Like Jackson.
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Robinson is no gun. A psychotic foot soldier. Has some explosive games but also has some stuffing poo ones. C grader. Like Jackson.
Thats the difference. Robinson has some explosive games. Ive never seen Jackson have games like that. Theres no way that Jackson and Robinson are level so if Jackson is a D grade then Robinson is probably a C.
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Happy with that. I'd take Robbo over Jacko.
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SpyandSource deepthroat
"Don't be surprised if Richmond secures the sig of a big name interstate player. Maric is set in stone but they are aggressively someone else"
http://twitter.com/#!/search/spyandsource
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So what big names from the 7 interstate clubs are out of contract?
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So what big names from the 7 interstate clubs are out of contract?
Mitch Clark the obvious big name but Freo is his most likely destination.
Zac Clarke? Not really a big name yet.
Gunston? Not a big name either and he wants to be traded to Hawthorn.
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So what big names from the 7 interstate clubs are out of contract?
Mitch Clark the obvious big name but Freo is his most likely destination.
Zac Clarke? Not really a big name yet.
Gunston? Not a big name either and he wants to be traded to Hawthorn.
Could the player be contracted?
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I don't see how were in a position to trade for a "Big Name Player" ? Unless they are desperate to come to us I don's see us having enough bargaining power?
Thoughts?
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someone has a stab at this every year lol Its a 50/50 bet, don't be surprised if it happens...but if it doesn't ahh well...
In fact it fairdinkum gives me the shell grits, because anybody can spew up this crap, there is no name, no source, no information whatsoever and absolutely no commitment to the rumour, just a half ar sed 'don't be surprised'. Get stuffed deep throat.
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I don't see how were in a position to trade for a "Big Name Player" ? Unless they are desperate to come to us I don's see us having enough bargaining power?
Thoughts?
As I said in the other thread, if GWS actually gave us pick 5 for Foley (unlikely) then we would have picks 5,14 and compo pick. We need to cash in while Jackson (for whatever unknown reason) still has currency and can use a pick gained for him.
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I don't see how were in a position to trade for a "Big Name Player" ? Unless they are desperate to come to us I don's see us having enough bargaining power?
Thoughts?
As I said in the other thread, if GWS actually gave us pick 5 for Foley (unlikely) then we would have picks 5,14 and compo pick. We need to cash in while Jackson (for whatever unknown reason) still has currency and can use a pick gained for him.
If we had 5, 14, compo, our 2nd and 2 x 3rd rounder or something we are in a good position.
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I don't see how were in a position to trade for a "Big Name Player" ? Unless they are desperate to come to us I don's see us having enough bargaining power?
Thoughts?
As I said in the other thread, if GWS actually gave us pick 5 for Foley (unlikely) then we would have picks 5,14 and compo pick. We need to cash in while Jackson (for whatever unknown reason) still has currency and can use a pick gained for him.
Yes, I posted the question before I read we may acquire pick 5, that will give us a little more bargaining power 8) 8)
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You guys are freakin hilarious. Better than Lamebook.
Robinson hits fewer targets than a blind archer/axeman. And he is better than Jackson ???? Think you may want to watch a few more Blues games.
I cant stand that prick Robinson, is on par with Milne, just wanna see him get smacked around on the ground.
Having said that, he is leagues in front of Jackson, as Flagman said, he actually impacts games.
x 2, specially the bit about wanting to smack the living crap out of him. Can't stand him but he is a much better player than Jackson imho.
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Brad Ebert has walked out of the Eagles.
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I Rate him highly. He's what Jackson and Grigg should be.
What a sniper ;D
Jackson is a sniper. One of the worst in the game. Pathetic shitman
Robinson nice kid, pretty good player. What is his suspension record like compared to Jacksons?
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Brad Ebert has walked out of the Eagles.
Here's a link http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7155/newsid/124613/default.aspx
JON has also been let go.
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Wants to go back home to SA. Jon obviously a crash and burn.
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JON haha
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The big one.....Goddard..... :thumbsup
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Kurt Tippet...has a nice ring to it? :shh
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Kurt Tippet...has a nice ring to it? :shh
Always seems to be linked to the Gold Coast.
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Trade week is full of surprises...GC trade just seems to obvious for a this kid, lets face it he would be getting out of Adelaide and on to the big stage... 203cm, kicking needs work but would be a real smoke screen senario from outer state for a BIG FISH.
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Richmond don't need to trade too much, maybe just another ruckman and a CHF but Vickery can play that role.
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Posted on BF by: DeepThroat007
Re: Trades/Delistings/Recruitment Part 3
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I can say that we are keen on Involving Carlton in 2 x 3 way deals, with Jordan Russel heading to port or crows, we are keen on Steven solapeck and dan Stewart, also in another deal that will see Kane Lucas go to west coast in an attempt to get Mitch Brown or Koby Stevens to punt road.
Luke Macguane looks set to join Sydney or go to gws for pre listed player, dont surprised if Mitch Morton is also used for a pre listed player. Shenton Mhor Luke brown and Troy Stribling are all targets either through trades or ND.
Steve Morris has signed a heads of agreement but port will look to try to & out bid us for his services.
Alex Forster is ND target as is Toby Greene but don't be surprised if we trade up pick 14 with a player with GWS to get either picks 5 7 or 9.
Doug Morris is also a ND target.
We have offered crows our rd 3 pick with a take it of leave it offer and we will endeavor to pick him up in the pre season draft like Houli last year, we are offering him a long term contract.
Connors will try & be used in a 3 way deal with crows & Sydney, Tony Armstrong to go to syd, Connors to crows, I have not confirmed who from Sydney we r chasing, but Jesse white was the word early, can't tell you with any certainy.
Byron sumner will go to crows or port for a late pick.
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Posted on BF by: DeepThroat007
Re: Trades/Delistings/Recruitment Part 3
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I can say that we are keen on Involving Carlton in 2 x 3 way deals, with Jordan Russel heading to port or crows, we are keen on Steven solapeck and dan Stewart, also in another deal that will see Kane Lucas go to west coast in an attempt to get Mitch Brown or Koby Stevens to punt road.
Luke Macguane looks set to join Sydney or go to gws for pre listed player, dont surprised if Mitch Morton is also used for a pre listed player. Shenton Mhor Luke brown and Troy Stribling are all targets either through trades or ND.
Steve Morris has signed a heads of agreement but port will look to try to & out bid us for his services.
Alex Forster is ND target as is Toby Greene but don't be surprised if we trade up pick 14 with a player with GWS to get either picks 5 7 or 9.
Doug Morris is also a ND target.
We have offered crows our rd 3 pick with a take it of leave it offer and we will endeavor to pick him up in the pre season draft like Houli last year, we are offering him a long term contract.
Connors will try & be used in a 3 way deal with crows & Sydney, Tony Armstrong to go to syd, Connors to crows, I have not confirmed who from Sydney we r chasing, but Jesse white was the word early, can't tell you with any certainy.
Byron sumner will go to crows or port for a late pick.
What would Carlton get ?
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God this DT has it all worked out....
How accurate has he been over the last few years out of interest????
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Trade talk: club-by-club analysis
Jon Pierik and Matt Murnane
October 5, 2011
Who is your club chasing and who is on the chopping block when trade week starts on Monday?
Richmond
Trade potential: Luke McGuane, Mitch Morton, Matt White, Ben Nason, David Astbury.
Draft picks to offer: 14, 34, 52, 70, 88.
In the market for: Ruckman and a key defender.
What we think: Searching for a frontline ruckman who can deliver around the ground. Adelaide's Ivan Maric is one target.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trade-talk-clubbyclub-analysis-20111004-1l7gx.html
Astbury ???
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Trade potential: Luke McGuane, Mitch Morton, Matt White, Ben Nason, David Astbury.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
:thatsgold
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Yeah, I'm sure they have a perception he's been around longer than 2 injury riddled years. :wallywink + :wallywink (One for each journo)
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LOL Astbury. Then to say we need a CHB. :wallywink
Even though DT is unlikely to get any of them right. Id love Forster at the club. Everyone drooling over Grigg's left should look at both Forster's left and right. Doug Morris wouldnt suprise either. And Steve Morris is obvious.
Of the others i would really like Koby Stevens. I love the bit how Carlton give up Lucas we get Stevens or Brown and Carlton get nothing. :lol
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After seeing swoop Astbury's name I'm more convinced than ever that journos just make this poo up at arbitrary.
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LOL Astbury. Then to say we need a CHB. :wallywink
Even though DT is unlikely to get any of them right. Id love Forster at the club. Everyone drooling over Grigg's left should look at both Forster's left and right. Doug Morris wouldnt suprise either. And Steve Morris is obvious.
Of the others i would really like Koby Stevens. I love the bit how Carlton give up Lucas we get Stevens or Brown and Carlton get nothing. :lol
DT gives the supporters something to discuss lol. Its crap but its still helps get through this week as we enter trade week with extraordinary hopes only for them to be dashed with the usual array of rejects, duds and discards coming to Punt Road ;D
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Deep throat always ends up choking on his own err...bs. When has he ever gotten anything right? Never! He is like Nostradamus, throws a whole bunch of crap on the wall and occasionally something vaguely looks like a the face on the shroud of Turin and the second coming is nigh and he claims he foresaw it although via some convoluted extremely vague allusion.
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Deep throat always ends up choking on his own err...bs. When has he ever gotten anything right? Never! He is like Nostradamus, throws a whole bunch of crap on the wall and occasionally something vaguely looks like a the face on the shroud of Turin and the second coming is nigh and he claims he foresaw it although via some convoluted extremely vague allusion.
Who cares, it is a fantastic read. He needs to post more often! :clapping
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lol keeps us talking I spose
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Deep throat always ends up choking on his own err...bs. When has he ever gotten anything right? Never! He is like Nostradamus, throws a whole bunch of crap on the wall and occasionally something vaguely looks like a the face on the shroud of Turin and the second coming is nigh and he claims he foresaw it although via some convoluted extremely vague allusion.
:lol :thumbsup, cheers Owl, thought as much!
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Little article about Tom Gillies from the cattery. We and the Buldogs are keen
age 21
at 192cms i wouldve though a little short for a FB gig. Dont know anything about him so we'l see
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Little article about Tom Gillies from the cattery. We and the Buldogs are keen
age 21
at 192cms i wouldve though a little short for a FB gig. Dont know anything about him so we'l see
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dogs-tigers-keen-on-tom-gillies/story-fn69a32t-1226159598968
The beard better go if he joins.
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The article does not say we are keen.
It says "Richmond and Western Bulldogs are two clubs believed to be looking to shore up their defensive half in the draft and trade periods."
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The article does not say we are keen.
It says "Richmond and Western Bulldogs are two clubs believed to be looking to shore up their defensive half in the draft and trade periods."
The title in the link says we are keen:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ dogs-tigers-keen-on-tom-gillies /story-fn69a32t-1226159598968
Any interest by the way in Bellchambers who is also mentioned in the article?
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Bellchambers was smashed by Graham in the VFL when they met, So it's a "Hell no" for me...
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Even Browne dominated him around the ground in the Dreamtime game didnt he?
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Bedchambers will be a gun. He is a fantastic tap ruckman that also takes a decent grab around the ground. He would be 10X better than what we have at the moment! I would take him in a heart beat.....easily worth a second round pick.
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Beefy & VLC dominating against him. ;D maybe we have the gun rucks :lol
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Bedchambers will be a gun. He is a fantastic tap ruckman that also takes a decent grab around the ground. He would be 10X better than what we have at the moment! I would take him in a heart beat.....easily worth a second round pick.
No to Bellchambers. Average Player at this stage of the proceedings IMHO - I would rate him a C-/D+ which isnt much better than what we have at present in Graham and Brown who are D rated players.
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Bellchambers got outmarked by Dusty. As good as Dusty is if your ruckman gets outmarked by a mid easily then he sucks.
The article about Gillies just presumes we want him because we want a defender.
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West Coast yesterday emerged as a surprise frontrunner to secure the services of disgruntled out-of-contract Brisbane key forward Mitch Clark...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/eagles-ready-to-swoop-on-clark-fremantle-bid-could-be-trumped/story-e6frg7mf-1226159629080
Brent Macaffer on the outer at Collingwood...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-leaves-brett-macaffer-out-on-a-limb/story-e6frf9jf-1226159652983
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Beefy & VLC dominating against him. ;D maybe we have the gun rucks :lol
1 VLC is enough.
Beefman is sexy and will win the 2012 brownlow.
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The article does not say we are keen.
It says "Richmond and Western Bulldogs are two clubs believed to be looking to shore up their defensive half in the draft and trade periods."
The title in the link says we are keen:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ dogs-tigers-keen-on-tom-gillies /story-fn69a32t-1226159598968
Any interest by the way in Bellchambers who is also mentioned in the article?
I believe headlines are written by editors not the person who wrote the article.
The editor has just done what the writer wants joe public to do - join the dots, make assumptions and run with it. ;D
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exactly, nothing in this at all, this nobody has nothing to offer on what have already got on our list...perhaps we could enquire on Harry taylor :shh
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Beefy & VLC dominating against him. ;D maybe we have the gun rucks :lol
:lol
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SpyandSource deepthroat twitter:
"Getting word that at least one Vic club is willing to part ways with a big name player for the rights of the #1 selection in the mini-draft"
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SpyandSource deepthroat twitter:
"Getting word that at least one Vic club is willing to part ways with a big name player for the rights of the #1 selection in the mini-draft"
Given half the competition are Vic based clubs and it will take some what of a big name player to get the 1 selection in the mini draft. I think the odds of this happening is and always was high.
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It's probably Collingwood and Dayne Beams or Brent McCaffer. They tend to overrate their players just a touch.
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It's probably Collingwood and Dayne Beams or Brent McCaffer. They tend to overrate their players just a touch.
Wouldn't call either of them a big name player. Yep hard to trade with clubs like Essendon and Collingwood who overrate their players much to our delight with Bachar Houli. :lol :rollin :lol
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It's probably Collingwood and Dayne Beams or Brent McCaffer. They tend to overrate their players just a touch.
Wouldn't call either of them a big name player. Yep hard to trade with clubs like Essendon and Collingwood who overrate their players much to our delight with Bachar Houli. :lol :rollin :lol
Wouldn't mind Dayne Beams for free. :cheers
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Damien Ferret tweeted that he's hearing that some BIG names might be shocked that they're trade bait on Monday
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Damien Ferret tweeted that he's hearing that some BIG names might be shocked that they're trade bait on Monday
Love it how they dont name names. I could say that. If it doesnt happen just claim 'fell through at the last minute because its really hard to get big trades to go through" :wallywink
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We've got 4 big names - Cotchin Martin Lids and Jack! They are all contracted right.
They wouldn't shaft capn would they? :gobdrop
Anyone else would be fair game at the right price but are they big names??????
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Edwards and Jackson are big names for us
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You just push it TO FAR MAN
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Latest BF rumour ................
Big news coming out next week involving 4 teams Saints, GWS, Blues & Tigers. Goddard & Dal Santo involved in this trade and a young star that quite a few clubs want.
It's going to be massive, this deal between the four clubs has been discussed between them for quite a while now.
Can't really say too much but it involves 3 Blues who havent signed yet and one that has a year left on his contract. The Tigers will be traded two of these players for draft pics which will be passed on to a certain club. Tigers will give up one of its current stars and a fringe player
The thing here is that the Tiger fans are going to be over the moon, even though they are going to give up something this trade will push them into the top 8 next year. Unfortunately for the Blues they have to give up quite a lot and some Carlton fans are going to be upset, but when they look at the gains they will be very happy indeed.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22511165&postcount=716
Don't you just love trade rumours lol.
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Latest BF rumour ................
Big news coming out next week involving 4 teams Saints, GWS, Blues & Tigers. Goddard & Dal Santo involved in this trade and a young star that quite a few clubs want.
It's going to be massive, this deal between the four clubs has been discussed between them for quite a while now.
Can't really say too much but it involves 3 Blues who havent signed yet and one that has a year left on his contract. The Tigers will be traded two of these players for draft pics which will be passed on to a certain club. Tigers will give up one of its current stars and a fringe player
The thing here is that the Tiger fans are going to be over the moon, even though they are going to give up something this trade will push them into the top 8 next year. Unfortunately for the Blues they have to give up quite a lot and some Carlton fans are going to be upset, but when they look at the gains they will be very happy indeed.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22511165&postcount=716
Don't you just love trade rumours lol.
I can't see Richmond trading one of its "stars" out. Neither would Carlton seeing how they are on the verge of top 4 and making it into the 3rd week of the finals. Plus when someone promises a player will turn any side into a top 8 side it loses any creditability if it ever had any so Im calling BS on it.
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Edwards and Jackson are big names for us
Of course. The bigger the name the bigger the dud at Tigerland. ;D
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It's probably Collingwood and Dayne Beams or Brent McCaffer. They tend to overrate their players just a touch.
Wouldn't call either of them a big name player. Yep hard to trade with clubs like Essendon and Collingwood who overrate their players much to our delight with Bachar Houli. :lol :rollin :lol
Wouldn't mind Dayne Beams for free. :cheers
why what attributes makes you think hed be a decent player at richmond. wouldnt touch him with a barge pole.
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It's probably Collingwood and Dayne Beams or Brent McCaffer. They tend to overrate their players just a touch.
Wouldn't call either of them a big name player. Yep hard to trade with clubs like Essendon and Collingwood who overrate their players much to our delight with Bachar Houli. :lol :rollin :lol
Wouldn't mind Dayne Beams for free. :cheers
why what attributes makes you think hed be a decent player at richmond. wouldnt touch him with a barge pole.
U missed the bit where i said 'free' :lol
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Latest BF rumour ................
Big news coming out next week involving 4 teams Saints, GWS, Blues & Tigers. Goddard & Dal Santo involved in this trade and a young star that quite a few clubs want.
It's going to be massive, this deal between the four clubs has been discussed between them for quite a while now.
Can't really say too much but it involves 3 Blues who havent signed yet and one that has a year left on his contract. The Tigers will be traded two of these players for draft pics which will be passed on to a certain club. Tigers will give up one of its current stars and a fringe player
The thing here is that the Tiger fans are going to be over the moon, even though they are going to give up something this trade will push them into the top 8 next year. Unfortunately for the Blues they have to give up quite a lot and some Carlton fans are going to be upset, but when they look at the gains they will be very happy indeed.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22511165&postcount=716
Don't you just love trade rumours lol.
The guys join date is Oct 2011. Full points for imagination 10/10 ;D
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The more complex the trade and the more clubs involved the more b/s the post.............
Big Footy = Big Smelly Crap
Teenage fantasy fulfilling paradise. :help
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Dream time at the trade table...
Trade Out:
McGuane to GC for Nicholls - Project Ruck
Nason to Adel for Maric - Insurance (ie:Miller)...
Morton, White and Jackson to GWS for top 10 pick - Gun Midfielder
Conors + Compo to Adel for Dangerfield (otherwise send to Carlton for an upgrade and keep compo)
Still have picks to play with...use to get deals done if we have to, must clear out the dead wood while some of these boys still have value to the 2 x new clubs.
Idealy would like a seasoned defender, but will back in Grimes, Rance, Astbury, Post and Batchelor etc...
Must and Will step up...
Conca - midfield
Helbig - clearance, run with roll
Edwards - wing
Post - CHB
Derrix - Ruck
Griffiths - CHF
Delist/drop Graham back to VFL
Yep...that should do for now...
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this thread should be renamed: 'Trade week rumours, rumours and straight up horse dung.'
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Read this on another board, imagine if it came true
Blues:
Give Hampson to Richmond for pick 37
Give Lucas to GWS for pick #2 in pre-draft
Tigers:
Give pick 37 for Hampson
Saints:
Give Dal Santo to GWS for pick #1 in PD + pick #5 in ND
Give Goddard to Carlton for pick #2 in PD + picks #22, 37
GWS:
Give pick #1 in PD + pick #5 in ND for Dal Santo
Give pick #2 in PD for Lucas
BLUES:
IN: Goddard
OUT: Hampson, Lucas, pick #22
SAINTS:
IN: picks #1, 2 in PD + Picks #5, 22, 37 in ND
OUT: Goddard, Dal Santo
TIGERS:
IN: Hampson
OUT: Pick #37
GWS:
IN: Lucas, Dal Santo
OUT: Pick #1, 2 in PD + Pick #5 in ND.
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Non-Richmond rumoured trades mentioned in the media today....
GWS gain Collingwood's pick 25
Collingwood gain Marty Clarke (Ireland), Jamie Elliott (Murray Bushrangers) and a late pick in the 60s (presumably GWS' pick 67)
Carlton chasing Marty Clarke as well and they are willing to offer Brock McLean lol to GWS to get a deal done. However it's reported Clarke wants to rejoin Collingwood.
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Carlton chasing Marty Clarke as well and they are willing to offer Brock McLean lol to GWS to get a deal done. However it's reported Clarke wants to rejoin Collingwood.
Brick McLean :lol
Worse trade than the McMahon trade. :lol
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What would we have to give up to get Vinesy?
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What would we have to give up to get Vinesy?
which one
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What would we have to give up to get Vinesy?
which one
lol....O'l Vinsey's still contracted to Campbell town It would take more than Dusty and Cotch to get him to us :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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BF's DeepThroat's latest offering....
"Just letting you all know that im hearing, but i am yet to Confirm, that our 1st pick (which ever number it end up being) and our compo pick will be traded this year and possibly our 2nd rounder as well, making it more than likely that we will not have our own first 2 round picks at all and we will have to trade to get back into the top 40 this year.
I have to make it very clear that im not 100% sure about this but Im going to make some enquiries this afternoon.
Who the players are that will be involved has not been said but we will be involved in a three way deal with some clubs Carlton looking most likely as one of the clubs at this stage. Geelong is keen to clean swap Gillies with D Jackson."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22518958&postcount=477
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BF's DeepThroat's latest offering....
"Just letting you all know that im hearing, but i am yet to Confirm, that our 1st pick (which ever number it end up being) and our compo pick will be traded this year and possibly our 2nd rounder as well, making it more than likely that we will not have our own first 2 round picks at all and we will have to trade to get back into the top 40 this year.
I have to make it very clear that im not 100% sure about this but Im going to make some enquiries this afternoon.
Who the players are that will be involved has not been said but we will be involved in a three way deal with some clubs Carlton looking most likely as one of the clubs at this stage. Geelong is keen to clean swap Gillies with D Jackson."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22518958&postcount=477
Oh well good to see some people can't seem to give up smoking crack.....what a load of rubbish, hell if that happens I will be buying a Cats membership next year...the Tigers can go to hell...
Won't happen though.
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:lol
not even for a judd type player?
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:lol
not even for a judd type player?
Name another Judd Al.......
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:laugh:
do you really want to go there?
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Isn't Gillies ment to be a future replacement for Scarlett?
It seems like Geelong for a long time have been very picky on players that have good foot skills which Dan Jackson doesn't have so why they would want him.
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With his red hair he'll be a direct replacement for Cameron Ling :lol
God knows, he may well be there captain in a year or so's time :lol :lol
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:laugh:
do you really want to go there?
Ok let me re phrase my question...
Name another Jud that we could get and that would come to the club.......for pick 14
Goodnight al... :thumbsup
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you know that comment was a blatant poo stir in relation to a recent comment of yours? ;D
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TRADE TRACKER
From: Adelaide Advertiser
RICHMOND
WANTING OUT: Dan Connors.
WANTING IN: Ivan Maric (Adelaide).
UNCERTAIN: Mitch Morton, Ben Nason, Matt White.
ADELAIDE
WANTING OUT: Tony Armstrong (Sydney), Jack Gunston (Hawthorn), Ivan Maric (Richmond).
UNCERTAIN: Brad Symes.
BRISBANE
WANTING OUT: Mitch Clark (Fremantle), Luke Power (GWS).
PUSHING FOR: Kurt Tippett (Adelaide).
CARLTON
TRADE BAIT: Paul Bower, Jordan Russell, Brock McLean.
COLLINGWOOD
TRADE BAIT: Chris Dawes, Tyson Goldsack, Brent Macaffer, John McCarthy.
UNCERTAIN: Leon Davis, Alan Toovey.
ESSENDON
TRADE BAIT: Alwyn Davey, David Hille, Scott Gumbleton, Kyle Reimers.
FREMANTLE
WANTING IN: Mitch Clark (Brisbane).
WANTING OUT: Jon Griffin (Port Adelaide).
GEELONG
TRADE BAIT: Tom Gillies, Simon Hogan.
GOLD COAST
TRADE BAIT: Daniel Gorringe, Tom Hickey, Tom Nicholls.
HAWTHORN
TRADE BAIT: Xavier Ellis, Rick Ladson, Jordan Lisle.
MELBOURNE
WANTING OUT: Matthew Warnock (Hawthorn).
TRADE BAIT: Matthew Bate, Joel MacDonald, Cale Morton, Austin Wonaeamirri.
NORTH MELBOURNE
UNCERTAIN: Matthew Campbell, Hamish McIntosh.
TRADE BAIT: Liam Anthony, Lachie Hansen, Daniel Pratt, Ben Warren.
PORT ADELAIDE
WANTING OUT: Dean Brogan, Chad Cornes (GWS).
WANTING IN: Brad Ebert (West Coast), Jon Griffin (Fremantle).
UNCERTAIN: Daniel Motlop.
ST KILDA
UNCERTAIN: Zac Dawson, Brett Peake, Farren Ray.
SYDNEY
WANTING IN: Tony Armstrong (Adelaide).
UNCERTAIN: Mark Seaby.
TRADE BAIT: Lewis Johnston, Jesse White.
WEST COAST
WANTING OUT: Brad Ebert (Port Adelaide).
TRADE BAIT: Bradd Dalziell, Chris Masten, Lewis Stevenson, Callum Wilson.
WESTERN BULLDOGS
UNCERTAIN: Josh Hill, Brian Lake.
TRADE BAIT: Dylan Addison, Andrew Hooper, Christian Howard, Sam Reid.
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Next episode from DeepThroat on BF:
"Ok Ladies and Gents, as I said b4 it was even reported Maric will come to us in the PSD if our 3 rd was not accepted, crows have relented now and have asked for a 3 rd round pick
that's better than ours or a late 2nd pick from another club, if it cannot be obtain by the
RFC they will accept our 3rd pick as the worst case scenario.
BIG NEWS is we will trade our 1st round pick, what ever number it ends up being, but it
will either be with another listed player to get into the top ten or more importantly for a player from another club, he won't be over 23 and under 20!!
If we can get a mid from with in a Victorian club that we are chasing then our 2nd pick will be gone, Lucas and Bower r both headed for punt road, lucas looking as good done to punt road. Mathew white will be involved with either our 1st round or 2nd round picks or traded to GWS for another pre listed player. "
"Yes correct, though foley won't b traded to get us into the top ten with our 1st pick, if anything Foley and our 1st pick will be to target JOM."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22532324&postcount=594
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all pretty plausible, i reckon we will be a major player this year, WHY, coz dimma has learnt a heap as to who has what it takes to shoulder what it takes to WIN...Im liking what i hear :shh
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I cant see us in a position to snag JOM though, we would have to offer moe than what we can afford at this stage.
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To be perfectly honest and with the way people are walking out on clubs these days to get back to home states, given he has stated his pref to stay in WA, I would be wary of taking him to be honest.
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To be perfectly honest and with the way people are walking out on clubs these days to get back to home states, given he has stated his pref to stay in WA, I would be wary of taking him to be honest.
In fairness we only ever hear of the ones that leave. How many players stay.
all pretty plausible, i reckon we will be a major player this year, WHY, coz dimma has learnt a heap as to who has what it takes to shoulder what it takes to WIN...Im liking what i hear :shh
Agree. Its actually not that un-realistic at all. Also, we seem to have a jump on the competition having Blair Hartley. Im of the opinion we will keep winning trades until the rest of the league catch up.
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More from BF's DeepThroat"
"The saints are in Big trouble, the jungle drums are banging real loud. Goddard or Dal santo could be gone.
From what I'm hearing, Ross Lyon Was told that he has to rebuild, he has to Lose one or 2 of his guns, they could possibly be over the salary cap and the afl will come down hard on the saints similar to Carlton, so they wants high draft pick now.
Carlton making a huge play for Goddard and yes I know it's been said b4, we could be the winners, Lucas will be a tiger or used by the tigers to extract another player from an interstate club, but is looking likely that he will end up at punt road, but along with Lucas we will get Bower to keep or trade to GWS or to freo/WC, but we could end up with B. MacClean for nothing so long as we take his salary, not sure on this part yet but he would then free the blues right up to get Goddard.
So we could lose pick 14 for Morris Lucas bower and Maclean. Again not completely over all the details on this but it will something similar.
Saints are in huge trouble if the whispers are correct, The real reason Rlyon left will come out after all."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22535967&postcount=664
And from Damien Barrett's twitter:
"All eyes on Saints. Massive salary cap issues. AFL all over it.
@craighutchy with ALL the #tradeweek movements, on @TradeWeekRadio from 8am"
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I dont know a great deal about bower, went to look at his stats on footy wire and nearly fell off my chair, he averages 6 possies a game and 1 mark :o. sheesh at that rate he makes our current defenders look like harry taylor...or am I completely missing something
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is Kane Lucas any good?
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I'd take him over Bower if I had the preference.
Outside mid, had a good debut year 2010 but rubbish 2011. combination of ongoing hamstring problems and form.
Still only 19 and potentially has a decent upside for mine.
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DeepThroat again:
"Well pick 14 for Lucas and Morris is correct weight, using Bower & macClean ( for free) as pawns in other deals or add them to a compo pick and get a GwS pick 7, just so Carlton can free up space, makes us the winners out of the saints trouble and carltons pursuit of Goddard. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22536177&postcount=679
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DeepThroat again:
"Well pick 14 for Lucas and Morris is correct weight, using Bower & macClean ( for free) as pawns in other deals or add them to a compo pick and get a GwS pick 7, just so Carlton can free up space, makes us the winners out of the saints trouble and carltons pursuit of Goddard. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22536177&postcount=679
That part of his post makes no sense. I actually like his posts as some stuff is pretty close to the mark but that is jibberish.
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Jibberish I agree
Was probably ordering pizza hut whilst typing that :chuck
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Lucas was a pretty high pick (around the 12 - 14 mark) and showed a bit early...agree last year was ordinary but a change of scenery ala houli, grigg etc and some luck with injuries and he could be a player - at the very least would add depth and be an upgrade on some of the junk we have going around now...
bower - eh...pretty much L McGuane clone so don't see the sense in that unless it's to be used as part of another deal as suggested....also not sure about the mclean side of things - he's on a pretty hefty pay packet isn't he?
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What he is saying is we do the pick 14 downgrade to 15 for Morris, then trade the 15 to Carlton for Lucas to free up salary cap and space so they can go for Goddard, Bower and MacClean seem to be involved in this convoluted process too, perhaps for cap reasons or something.
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What he is saying is we do the pick 14 downgrade to 15 for Morris, then trade the 15 to Carlton for Lucas to free up salary cap and space so they can go for Goddard, Bower and MacClean seem to be involved in this convoluted process too, perhaps for cap reasons or something.
If we end up with players like Bower and MacClean then we may as well close our club down coz they learnt nothing over 30 years. :banghead
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dont stress ramps.
taking a couple of hacks for nothing to free up salary cap space for someone else is pretty far fetched.
Not totally implausible, but still, pretty far fetched.
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dont stress ramps.
taking a couple of hacks for nothing to free up salary cap space for someone else is pretty far fetched.
Not totally implausible, but still, pretty far fetched.
Yeah, I can't see us taking on a couple of hacks so we can help Carlton land a big fish.
At least I hope not anyway .... :pray
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At this point can I just say 'Craig Cameron'. >:(
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Craig Cameron does not have dictatorial rights over such decisions.
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He does have dicktahead rights though.
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Bower will NOT be at Richmond next year. :thumbsup
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Bower will NOT be at Richmond next year. :thumbsup
McClean better not be at Richmond either >:(
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Bower will NOT be at Richmond next year. :thumbsup
McClean better not be at Richmond either >:(
Nope.
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Bower will NOT be at Richmond next year. :thumbsup
McClean better not be at Richmond either >:(
Nope.
Source? Can PM me if it's a secret. ;D
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Why make a new avatar to post that unsubstantiated claim (about a totally unsubstantiated rumour)? If your gonna go incognito, slap it on the table!
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Why make a new avatar to post that unsubstantiated claim (about a totally unsubstantiated rumour)? If your gonna go incognito, slap it on the table!
Yeah, Take that ya one post Poney ;D
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I can't honestly see us taking Bower or MacLean.
Wont happen.
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He does have dicktahead rights though.
:rollin :clapping
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I might be robinson crusoe but Id take Mclean for nothing, he's only 25 has had a torid time with injuries, if he can get right, he is a clearance machine...would be a good change from Jackson if they are intent in offloading him
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I agree BJ. Certainly wouldnt want to pay much for him, but I think he is unfairly maligned.
Would be in our best 22 as an upgrade on Jacko, perhaps even Tucky.
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no he wouldn't. mclean is cooked. put a fork in him.
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Just heard this ripper, it supposedly comes from Ross Lyons best mate.
Hutchy will be running with this tomorrow.
I don't believe it, but here it is.
Carlton give Richmond bower, McLean, Lucas and their first round pick, I think it's 22.
Richmond give Carlton their first round pick, I think it's pick 15.
Carlton than give St Kilda pick 15 for Goddard.
Richmond will than on trade Bower to one of GWS pre listed players they are interested in.
The same chap tells me St Kilda are in serious financial strife and may be even facing some sanctions. Need to get rid of 2 stars, Goddard and Dal Santo most likely.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22539405&postcount=97
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This all sounds like something some Carlton supporter has made up. The Blues gain Goddard for only pick 22 and some fringe players; Saints lose Goddard for only a late first round pick; Richmond moves out of the top 20 of the draft for a finished footballer like McLean, a kid on the fringe plus some 17 year old that other clubs don't want if GWS only want Bower in return. Too good to be true for Carlton. I still wouldn't do it but Richmond would be better off in that scenario to trade for Goddard with pick 15 as at least we'd gain a quality footballer and then send one of our own fringe players to GWS for a pre-listed player we are supposedly interested in. Why help Carlton build towards a premiership. We ain't a charity. ::).
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Carlton and Richmond ream this trade. Odds are we wont do 15 for 22 if we dont think our player will be there. In the mean time we pick up someone like Lucas, and maybe Luke Brown as well as having the burden of McLean.
Wouldn't mind McLean in the hope he comes good so we can lol at Carlton fans :lol
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Essentially, excluding the other two, we would slide around 7 places down in the draft, but gain a top 15 pick from a couple of years ago in Lucas. Doesnt sound to bad to me.
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Essentially, excluding the other two, we would slide around 7 places down in the draft, but gain a top 15 pick from a couple of years ago in Lucas. Doesnt sound to bad to me.
As well as potentially a pre-list player who could be top 25 pick this year. I guess its the reward for taking McLean's contract so they can get Goddard.
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If Carlton want to free up salary cap space then they either just delist their unwanted players or get them to tell the Visy ambassador to take a paycut or at least have a 3rd-party deal that despite being allowed by the AFL is now against the current rules for any other player. We are not here to take their unwanted off-cuts just so they can score a gun player at the trade table. Weren't we all told that we wouldn't trade our first round pick away ::).
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Looks like some dumb Blues fans have been fooled by the Telstra run AFL club websites having players listed on opposition club official websites. Remember we posted the Daniel Connors one on the North website.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brendon-goddard-in-carlton-trade-riddle/story-fn69a32t-1226162590505
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Just further evidence that being a footy journo is the easiest job on Earth. You can come up with any dumb crap and they'll put it to print :stupid :lol.
Tomorrow: Buddy Franklin to become a Tiger.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/playerprofile/lancefranklin/tabid/8473/playerid/14265/category/senior/season/2011/selected/bio/default.aspx
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I hope our trades happen early in trade week and then we can finish up with the crap thats going around.
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Just heard this ripper, it supposedly comes from Ross Lyons best mate.
Hutchy will be running with this tomorrow.
I don't believe it, but here it is.
Carlton give Richmond bower, McLean, Lucas and their first round pick, I think it's 22.
Richmond give Carlton their first round pick, I think it's pick 15.
Carlton than give St Kilda pick 15 for Goddard.
Richmond will than on trade Bower to one of GWS pre listed players they are interested in.
The same chap tells me St Kilda are in serious financial strife and may be even facing some sanctions. Need to get rid of 2 stars, Goddard and Dal Santo most likely.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22539405&postcount=97
Deepthroat also made mention of similar.
with the article in todays herald scum about St Kilda, at least part of this rumour is growing legs.
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Just further evidence that being a footy journo is the easiest job on Earth. You can come up with any dumb crap and they'll put it to print :stupid :lol.
Tomorrow: Buddy Franklin to become a Tiger.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/playerprofile/lancefranklin/tabid/8473/playerid/14265/category/senior/season/2011/selected/bio/default.aspx
Well I guess that confirms it! Daniel Jackson is leaving the club as Buddy is still listed as having his beloved 23. :rollin
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Richmond will than on trade Bower to one of GWS pre listed players they are interested in.
Didn't think you could on-trade players you've just traded for.
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::)
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Looks like the saints are in liquorice allsorts as per the rumor mill with salary cap...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-investigators-salary-cap-fix-deadline-looms-for-st-kilda/story-fn69a32t-1226162472545
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'Dockers ruckman Jonathon Griffin, who has requested a return home to South Australia, has been told he is a required player at Fremantle.'
huh? didnt he initially request a trade out of Adelaide to go home to Perth?
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Yep he wanted more game time as the 2nd ruckman at Freo behind Sandilands.
Then the substitution rule stymied him and he only got games when Sandilands was out injured.
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Richmond will than on trade Bower to one of GWS pre listed players they are interested in.
Didn't think you could on-trade players you've just traded for.
I think you can just like you can on trade picks that you've just traded for
Eg Adel on trading that compo pick they got last year for Bock and then on trading to us for Tambling
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They must have changed the rules this year because up until recently you couldn't on-trade a player.
- A club cannot on-trade a player received in any exchange until the following year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103730/default.aspx
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They must have changed the rules this year because up until recently you couldn't on-trade a player.
- A club cannot on-trade a player received in any exchange until the following year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103730/default.aspx
Fair enough then
They change the rules that often I can't keep up ;D
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CARLTON coach Brett Ratten doesn't expect his club to be a major participant in trade week.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124843/default.aspx
ST KILDA will use trade week to ease the strain on its salary cap, but the Saints will not be forced to trade out any of its star players, according to the club's head of football, Chris Pelchen.
Pelchen admitted St Kilda needed to use the player exchange period to provide itself with salary cap relief, but moved to quash speculation the likes of Brendon Goddard or Sam Gilbert would be sacrificed.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124832/default.aspx
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Richmond will than on trade Bower to one of GWS pre listed players they are interested in.
Didn't think you could on-trade players you've just traded for.
Can't ontrade but thats how 3 way deals get involved. Its effectively the same as on-trading ;D
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An Interstate club(s) interested in Demon Matthew Warnock according to TWR (Trade week radio). Not sure if that will effect McGuane wanting to head to Brisbane.
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An Interstate club(s) interested in Demon Matthew Warnock according to TWR (Trade week radio). Not sure if that will effect McGuane wanting to head to Brisbane.
Hope not >:(
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Mitch Clark's manager said it's basically Freo or nothing. Word is Brisbane want a pick and a player.
Plough heard the Swans' Jarred Moore is off to GWS.
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From Trade Week Radio:
Reckon Richmond will be active in trade week. They want to move certain players on - Connors, McGuane, Morton & White quite easily could be moved on.
Maric is main deal as far as players into Richmond.
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From Trade Week Radio:
Reckon Richmond will be active in trade week. They want to move certain players on - Connors, McGuane, Morton & White quite easily could be moved on.
Like tjhe sound of Connors being moved on but he is like White & McGuane contracted so he will have to agree right
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From Trade Week Radio:
Reckon Richmond will be active in trade week. They want to move certain players on - Connors, McGuane, Morton & White quite easily could be moved on.
Maric is main deal as far as players into Richmond.
If all we produce is Maric standard players then this trade period would have been an abysmal failure.
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From Trade Week Radio:
Reckon Richmond will be active in trade week. They want to move certain players on - Connors, McGuane, Morton & White quite easily could be moved on.
Maric is main deal as far as players into Richmond.
If all we produce is Maric standard players then this trade period would have been an abysmal failure.
So if we pick up Maric but get rid of 5 C to D grade players will you still be saying that??
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From Trade Week Radio:
Reckon Richmond will be active in trade week. They want to move certain players on - Connors, McGuane, Morton & White quite easily could be moved on.
Maric is main deal as far as players into Richmond.
If all we produce is Maric standard players then this trade period would have been an abysmal failure.
So if we pick up Maric but get rid of 5 C to D grade players will you still be saying that??
Every club gets rid of D and C standard players and to that end moving them on is a plus but whats important is what you bring in. If you replace C and D standard players with C and D standard players then whats the point.
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Maric is an ordinary ruckman, a bottom of the barrel selection, when you lack imagination to find something better.
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Then its how we use our draft picks I suppose.
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Maric is an ordinary ruckman, a bottom of the barrel selection, when you lack imagination to find something better.
Andrew Bogut? ;D
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Maric is an ordinary ruckman, a bottom of the barrel selection, when you lack imagination to find something better.
I am sure our recruiters have been working there behind's off to find the best possible fit.... Unfortunately he seems to be the only one that wants to come to us!! You can't hold a knife to the throat of all the good ruckmen and force them to leave the club there at to come to us......It just aint that easy :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Careful TtT you'll give yourself a headache with all that head banging! :lol
If Maric proves to be an upgrade on Browne & Graham it will be lucky.
When Maric played directly against them in R18 2010 he got 1mark & 12hit outs.
Our recruiters have missed opportunities to get a decent ruckman in the previous few years but failed to recognize the talent.
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I agree, It's a disgrace we haven't even inquired about Griffen, shows we have learnt nothing over the past few years :banghead :banghead :banghead (Now I have a headache ;D)
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Just a question for all you gurus and unsure if it has been mentioned, Lovett Murray, (the one who didn't play a game for St Kilda) is he worth a punt?? Unsure if Nathan or Andrew, any upside??
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Just a question for all you gurus and unsure if it has been mentioned, Lovett Murray, (the one who didn't play a game for St Kilda) is he worth a punt?? Unsure if Nathan or Andrew, any upside??
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I am now trying to Beat myself to death........
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Careful TtT you'll give yourself a headache with all that head banging! :lol
If Maric proves to be an upgrade on Browne & Graham it will be lucky.
When Maric played directly against them in R18 2010 he got 1mark & 12hit outs.
Our recruiters have missed opportunities to get a decent ruckman in the previous few years but failed to recognize the talent.
What was the % of time that Maric played on ground in that game and in the ruck? I don't recall all the stats from that game, but his numbers were not gained purely from playing as the #1 ruck option all day.
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Richmond
A Browne 2m 16ho
A Graham 0m 14ho
Adelaide
J Griffin 4m 18ho
I Maric 1m 12ho
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Just a question for all you gurus and unsure if it has been mentioned, Lovett Murray, (the one who didn't play a game for St Kilda) is he worth a punt?? Unsure if Nathan or Andrew, any upside??
Good god man! :huh :nope
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I agree, It's a disgrace we haven't even inquired about Griffen, shows we have learnt nothing over the past few years :banghead :banghead :banghead (Now I have a headache ;D)
How do you know we havent? And I dont know if we have either.
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Richmond
A Browne 2m 16ho
A Graham 0m 14ho
Adelaide
J Griffin 4m 18ho
I Maric 1m 12ho
What incredibly low stats. Must have had a few where both rucks completely missed the ball :lol
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(http://www.thisisoz.com.au/picture/ivan-maric-adelaide.jpg?pictureId=5444538&asGalleryImage=true&__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1274329535711)
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I agree, It's a disgrace we haven't even inquired about Griffen, shows we have learnt nothing over the past few years :banghead :banghead :banghead (Now I have a headache ;D)
How do you know we havent? And I dont know if we have either.
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic, RFCO.
He has been defending the club's honour in this respect.
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Richmond
A Browne 2m 16ho
A Graham 0m 14ho
Adelaide
J Griffin 4m 18ho
I Maric 1m 12ho
What incredibly low stats. Must have had a few where both rucks completely missed the ball :lol
Pretty sure it was a rainy day at the G that day. Not great conditions for the lumbering oafs.
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Those stats don't mean anything, how long was his % of time in the ruck as opposed to others?
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I agree, It's a disgrace we haven't even inquired about Griffen, shows we have learnt nothing over the past few years :banghead :banghead :banghead (Now I have a headache ;D)
How do you know we havent? And I dont know if we have either.
I was going off this quote........
Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.
Read back through the thread, I was sticking up for the club till this point ::) ::) ::)
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I agree, It's a disgrace we haven't even inquired about Griffen, shows we have learnt nothing over the past few years :banghead :banghead :banghead (Now I have a headache ;D)
How do you know we havent? And I dont know if we have either.
I was going off this quote........
Trade week radio said Freo's Jonathan Griffin was expecting Richmond to contact him but we've had no interest in him. So clearly Maric is coming to Punt Rd.
Read back through the thread, I was sticking up for the club till this point ::) ::) ::)
Well there ya go!
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Those stats don't mean anything, how long was his % of time in the ruck as opposed to others?
its not just 1 game go compare marics career stats to the one we want him to replace in graham. angus wins marics stats are underwhelming as is grahams.
the whole idea is to upgrade on angus but the question must be asked would it actually be an upgrade or just a older like for like player.
its unbelievable that the club would offer up a second rnd pick for such an underachieving unproven player.
surely as a club we have come further along than this.
if they see something in him fine give him the chance but not at any cost and certainly not paying overs.
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Robbo_heraldsun Mark Robinson twitter:
"Brock McLean not put up and not asked about. Year to go on contract."
Sportsnewsfirst twitter:
"Paul Bower and Setanta o'Hailpin could be on their way out of Carlton, CEO Greg Swann said"
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From Trade Week Radio:
Carlton CEO Greg Swann confirms the club will not recruit Brendon Goddard.
Lions list manager says there was 'next to no movement' on Mitch Clark today. West Coast still interested. "Gulf significant' between what the Lions want and what is being thrown up. "West Coast much more reasonable" according to Rob Kerr
AFL_JasonPhelan Jason Phelan twitter:
"Lions: WC has been better to deal with on Clark than Freo - pick 16 isn't gonna do it. Expressed interest in Tippett - Crows no. "
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Those stats don't mean anything, how long was his % of time in the ruck as opposed to others?
its not just 1 game go compare marics career stats to the one we want him to replace in graham. angus wins marics stats are underwhelming as is grahams.
the whole idea is to upgrade on angus but the question must be asked would it actually be an upgrade or just a older like for like player.
its unbelievable that the club would offer up a second rnd pick for such an underachieving unproven player.
surely as a club we have come further along than this.
if they see something in him fine give him the chance but not at any cost and certainly not paying overs.
His whole career you cant compare stats, he has never been played as the #1 ruck as Graham has been. Based purely on the fact that Maric can chase, take a mark and look half coordinated on the field he will be an upgrade on Graham.
Maric is not our answer long term, but he is a definite upgrade on Graham.
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St Kilda have joined the chase for a ruckman....
Pelchen said the club was looking for more midfield pace and ruck support for Ben McEvoy following the retirement of Michael Gardiner.
A number of clubs including Richmond, Port Adelaide and Brisbane, are already openly searching for a ruckman in the trade period.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/saints-say-stars-are-not-for-sale/story-fn69a32t-1226162786942
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:banghead this could be a concern
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:banghead this could be a concern
Why?
There comes a time in a negotiation where the best thing to do is walk away. We should have walked away from the Jordan MacMahon trade, we should have walked away from a host of failed trades. Richmond has to learn to walk away from bad trades.
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'Dockers ruckman Jonathon Griffin, who has requested a return home to South Australia, has been told he is a required player at Fremantle.'
huh? didnt he initially request a trade out of Adelaide to go home to Perth?
Yeah I was thinking that too. I can remember they didn't want to trade him but agreed to for compassionate reasons of some sort.
Doesn't seem like the sort of character conducive to builing a side around if that is correct.
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:banghead this could be a concern
Why?
There comes a time in a negotiation where the best thing to do is walk away. We should have walked away from the Jordan MacMahon trade, we should have walked away from a host of failed trades. Richmond has to learn to walk away from bad trades.
It is no secret that we are looking for a ruckman, if 3 other clubs are also looking for 1 it will make it a lot harder to land the biggest if others are fishing in the same area.
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The club has shown that shown in the last two years that they are no longer fools at the draft table. They know who is available and what they are worth.
Dont get ya thong in a twist jumping at media speculation.
Our first trade has already been a clever one.
have a little faith. :thumbsup
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From a source from Carlton:
Blues are chasing our 1st round pick 15, have offered Kane Lucas, with the condition that the deal only gets done if Goddard is brought to Carlton.
So basically Carlton want us to agree with the deal so they can pitch a package to St.Kilda including the pick 15 as a sweetner.
Word is the package will be Hampson, Calrton 1st pick and Pick 15 for Goddard.
Lucas then comes to Richmond.
Lucas struggled this year.. He's probably worth Pick 15 though in a weak draft.
Deal doesn't get done on its own though, not a straight swap, only done in a three way deal.
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be close i would have thought...only 2 years into his career...has BIG wraps on him...people need to remember No 15 is a fair way down, NO Guarantees and probability of being any good at all dimishes rapidly after top half doz...id seriously consider Lucas at that
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Saints sound pretty determined not to have to trade out any of there stars.
But then again Goddard could walk out next year and Saints get nothing. If they don't trade him they must be pretty certain his sticking around for a fair few years.
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Nothing is not entirely accurate, the compo picks have actually been quite generous and in comparrison to what most miserly clubs are qwilling to part with, theyd be better off waiting...as in No 15. 22 + Hampson...meh....will trump that with compo next year
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Nothing is not entirely accurate, the compo picks have actually been quite generous and in comparrison to what most miserly clubs are qwilling to part with, theyd be better off waiting...as in No 15. 22 + Hampson...meh....will trump that with compo next year
Free agency means no compensation. Saints must be very confident he wants to stick around for the long haul.
Next year it could come down to what his after money or premiership. I cant see saints offering better opportunity on either of though two options compared to what other clubs can.
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Nothing is not entirely accurate, the compo picks have actually been quite generous and in comparrison to what most miserly clubs are qwilling to part with, theyd be better off waiting...as in No 15. 22 + Hampson...meh....will trump that with compo next year
I dunno, they won't get the same compensation as Geelong for Ablett. A first round and 2nd round for Goddard.
Would think pick 15, 22 and Hampson is the same as Pick 10 and 18ish.
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Nothing is not entirely accurate, the compo picks have actually been quite generous and in comparrison to what most miserly clubs are qwilling to part with, theyd be better off waiting...as in No 15. 22 + Hampson...meh....will trump that with compo next year
Free agency means no compensation. Saints must be very confident he wants to stick around for the long haul.
Next year it could come down to what his after money or premiership. I cant see saints offering better opportunity on either of though two options compared to what other clubs can.
Pretty sure under free agency clubs will compensated in a similar way to clubs loosing uncontracted players to the new teams.
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Nothing is not entirely accurate, the compo picks have actually been quite generous and in comparrison to what most miserly clubs are qwilling to part with, theyd be better off waiting...as in No 15. 22 + Hampson...meh....will trump that with compo next year
Free agency means no compensation. Saints must be very confident he wants to stick around for the long haul.
Next year it could come down to what his after money or premiership. I cant see saints offering better opportunity on either of though two options compared to what other clubs can.
Pretty sure under free agency clubs will compensated in a similar way to clubs loosing uncontracted players to the new teams.
I just looked it back up and your right Al my mistake they do get compensation.
I wonder if he'll get ablett like compensation if he did walk out next year.
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Wonder if Bate will end up with us
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Wonder if Bate will end up with us
If we can get rid of some trash early (Morton, Nason, McGuane, Conners) I would be pretty very confident he will end up with us :whistle :whistle :whistle
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you do have a fixation with Master Bate, dont you jacko?
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you do have a fixation with Master Bate, dont you jacko?
:o
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he is at least better than 15 players on our list currently, so why not get him
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Master Bate's is useless, doesn't go hard, flops at the hard work, heard he has troubles performing in front of big crowds too . . . pass :whistle
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Master Bate's is useless, doesn't go hard, flops at the hard work, heard he has troubles performing in front of big crowds too . . . pass :whistle
You must not have seen any Richmond games this year.
Just jolt your memory, the supporters game against the Blues is enough.
Bate is better than Farmer, Connors, Morton, Webberley,Gourdis,White,Nason
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Master Bate's is useless, doesn't go hard, flops at the hard work, heard he has troubles performing in front of big crowds too . . . pass :whistle
You must not have seen any Richmond games this year.
Just jolt your memory, the supporters game against the Blues is enough.
Bate is better than Farmer, Connors, Morton, Webberley,Gourdis,White,Nason
Get your hand off it Jackstar.
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You one eyed supporters should go and watch other games during the year.you might learn something.Bate can play
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Nothing is not entirely accurate, the compo picks have actually been quite generous and in comparrison to what most miserly clubs are qwilling to part with, theyd be better off waiting...as in No 15. 22 + Hampson...meh....will trump that with compo next year
I dunno, they won't get the same compensation as Geelong for Ablett. A first round and 2nd round for Goddard.
Would think pick 15, 22 and Hampson is the same as Pick 10 and 18ish.
so less than scully you reckon ::)
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Bate goes OK. Would be a similar player to Grigg IMO, but a forward version.
He's an upgrade on the stock we have currently and is in the age bracket of our A Graders.
If we can get him for nicks or for one of our dead weight players it's a positive.
Bate can play, would be an upgrade on Morton's spot.
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From a source from Carlton:
Blues are chasing our 1st round pick 15, have offered Kane Lucas, with the condition that the deal only gets done if Goddard is brought to Carlton.
So basically Carlton want us to agree with the deal so they can pitch a package to St.Kilda including the pick 15 as a sweetner.
Word is the package will be Hampson, Calrton 1st pick and Pick 15 for Goddard.
Lucas then comes to Richmond.
Lucas struggled this year.. He's probably worth Pick 15 though in a weak draft.
Deal doesn't get done on its own though, not a straight swap, only done in a three way deal.
Diabolical on our behalf first because we are helping Carlton and second because Lucas isnt worth pick 15 hes done nothing in AFL footy.
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Bate goes OK. Would be a similar player to Grigg IMO, but a forward version.
He's an upgrade on the stock we have currently and is in the age bracket of our A Graders.
If we can get him for nicks or for one of our dead weight players it's a positive.
Bate can play, would be an upgrade on Morton's spot.
Bate is better than Shaun Grigg IMHO although they are different players. We do need a lead up half forward who can take a mark, kick the odd and make an impact on the contest.
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Master Bate's is useless, doesn't go hard, flops at the hard work, heard he has troubles performing in front of big crowds too . . . pass :whistle
You must not have seen any Richmond games this year.
Just jolt your memory, the supporters game against the Blues is enough.
Bate is better than Farmer, Connors, Morton, Webberley,Gourdis,White,Nason
pure gold :lol
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Bate might be worth being picked up as a rookie, but wouldn't give up anything for him.
He's a good lead up forward but thats his only trick. We have a few other boys that are better options.
better investing in youth for our draft picks -IMHO
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Agree 100% with Jack. Love Bate as a player, just been a victim of playing for Melbourne. He's had some dominant games at AFL. Perfect 3rd foil for Jack and Ty. At Melbourne, was forced to play as #1 leading forward. Also an excellent kick.
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No more Rangas
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No more Rangas
:clapping :bow :cheers
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;D ;D ;D
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Phew! I had to backtrack a couple of pages there to realise that this wasn't a real rumor. If this was even anywhere near true I wouldn't have been able to help myself but to avoid the swear filter.
He'd be a gun player in the Eastern League or the amateurs.
No more Rangas
That too ;D
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Wouldn't mind having a bit of a go at Toovey....
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Day 1 trade talks
Collingwood premiership defender Alan Toovey, like out-of-contract teammates Brent Macaffer and John McCarthy, is on the outer after negotiations stalled. The manager of Toovey emailed all clubs advising his client was on the market and would leave the club after being offered insufficient terms. Toovey is understood to want $350,000 a year for two years.
St Kilda is willing to move on Jason Gram. North Melbourne are interested.
The Saints have also entertained talks about Zac Dawson, Brett Peake, Farren Ray and Tom Lynch.
The Bulldogs have expressed interesed in getting back Farren Ray. The Dogs were also interested in Demon Matthew Bate.
The Bulldogs have four out-of-contract players on the trade table Dylan Addison, Sam Reid, Brennan Stack and Josh Hill.
Carlton has put Setanta O'hAilpin and Paul Bower on the trade table.
North Melbourne has inquired about Melbourne's Addam Maric, having already held talks with him. It also sought Josh Toy from the Gold Coast, which rejected the inquiry.
North was prepared to discuss a trade for Gavin Urquhart, Ben Warren and Matt Campbell.
Hawthorn has offered its first pick, No. 24, to Adelaide for forward Jack Gunston, but the Crows have baulked at the initial offer.
Hawk Clinton Young attracted some interest.
The Hawks were understood to have made a three-year offer to Geelong defender Tom Gillies who remains on contract.
Hawthorn's ruck Brent Renouf was sought by Port Adelaide.
Brad Ebert has picked Port Adelaide as his club of choice over the Crows, but a deal between West Coast and the Power is a long way from being finalised.
Port Adelaide has several senior players requesting to be traded out including Kane Cornes and Jacob Surjan.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/gram-is-up-for-grabs-20111010-1lhlu.html#ixzz1aONJwrLZ
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What a sea of crap being off loaded
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Toovey is a spud and would be badly exposed in a worse team.
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Where the hell is DT posting his usual crap, need a good read, slow days! :help
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Reading twitter it seems the TradeWeekRadio crew were trying to link Zac Dawson to Richmond.
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Reading twitter it seems the TradeWeekRadio crew were trying to link Zac Dawson to Richmond.
No thanks, can't see that happening anyway, they really have no clue!
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Nothing is going to happen now until Thursday after the mini draft. Cant believe they have a radio channel dedicated to the whole week. Boring as bat droppings re hashing rumours and attempting to l ink players to clubs that are never going to happen. Interviewing list managers who give nothing away. Bit of a waste of time.
Give me a time capsule to move me to next Monday....
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Nothing is going to happen now until Thursday after the mini draft. Cant believe they have a radio channel dedicated to the whole week. Boring as bat droppings re hashing rumours and attempting to l ink players to clubs that are never going to happen. Interviewing list managers who give nothing away. Bit of a waste of time.
Give me a time capsule to move me to next Monday....
Trade week radio is a good idea but between Monday and Sunday they should only run it between 4pm to 6pm as a summary and on the last day it should run from 9am till whenever trades close.
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DeepThroat's latest from BF:
"Ivan Maric should be a tiger by lunch time tomorrow, we could have another trade done by then as well."
"Did I say i was breaking news, re read what I wrote! By lunch time tomorrow. The 2nd trade could be the influencing factor on what we give crows for.
It could be Luke M with our pick 55 for lions pick 30 something then we trade that pick to crows, but I'm only summizing could be way of. I M should be a tiger by tomorrow."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22558097&postcount=972
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DeepThroat's latest from BF:
"Ivan Maric should be a tiger by lunch time tomorrow, we could have another trade done by then as well."
"Did I say i was breaking news, re read what I wrote! By lunch time tomorrow. The 2nd trade could be the influencing factor on what we give crows for.
It could be Luke M with our pick 55 for lions pick 30 something then we trade that pick to crows, but I'm only summizing could be way of. I M should be a tiger by tomorrow."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22558097&postcount=972
It's still to much! If we end up with two picks in the 30's then we need to keep both, only use them if we can upgrade!
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Yeah what happened to his big convoluted bs deal involving us and carltank and st.kilda still waiting for that pile of steaming stool to eventuate.
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DeepThroat's latest from BF:
"Ivan Maric should be a tiger by lunch time tomorrow, we could have another trade done by then as well."
"Did I say i was breaking news, re read what I wrote! By lunch time tomorrow. The 2nd trade could be the influencing factor on what we give crows for.
It could be Luke M with our pick 55 for lions pick 30 something then we trade that pick to crows, but I'm only summizing could be way of. I M should be a tiger by tomorrow."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22558097&postcount=972
It's still to much! If we end up with two picks in the 30's then we need to keep both, only use them if we can upgrade!
It would be great if us gaining pick 30 for McGuane was true but given the info is from DT on BF then it's most likely a load of garbage. The same thing happened last year with his posts.
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Trade Week Radio saying Toovey's manager isn't accredited so the AFLPA is saying clubs can't negotiate with him.
Here's the letter Toovey's manager sent:
http://twitter.com/#!/TradeWeekRadio/status/123515636054896641/photo/1
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Other clubs are chasing big name players and we are chasing the likes of Maric lol. Just shows whats going on at RFC. I'll come back to this next monday but I get the feeling we will all be disappointed AGAIN and the likes of Blaisee will be back here defending the indefensible. ;)
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In all fairness we are only really after a ruckman and there ain't any big name ruckmen on the market?
Also it seem's that we are over looking the fact that we aren't really in a position to go after a big fish...You have to give somthing good to get something good and we don't have Shlt.......
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In all fairness we are only really after a ruckman and there ain't any big name ruckmen on the market?
Also it seem's that we are over looking the fact that we aren't really in a position to go after a big fish...You have to give somthing good to get something good and we don't have Shlt.......
When you have given supporters crap return over 30 years of misery, when your supporters rattled tins for the club to survive, when those same supporters buy huge numbers of memberships keeping our club at the forefront and when those supporters contribute $3 million in 12 months to a fighting fund - then you have an obligation to provide hope. If Richmond leaves this trade week having done mini level trades then they can all get stuffed in the administration. It just means that they want our money so they can live on great salaries and they have the attitude that we can all get stuffed. Well I will wait till Monday. I hope Im wrong, but I seen this movie too many times, rubbish level trades and then the apologists come out to defend the clubs administration. But I will I wait and as I said If Im wrong I will apologise on Monday afternoon. :cheers
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Other clubs are chasing big name players and we are chasing the likes of Maric lol. Just shows whats going on at RFC. I'll come back to this next monday but I get the feeling we will all be disappointed AGAIN and the likes of Blaisee will be back here defending the indefensible. ;)
Ok mate since you have all the answers what do you propose we do
And be specific.
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:lol :lol :lol Mate, you need to take a dose of reality for god's sake man :banghead
Who do you think we should be chasing and what do you think we should put on the table to get them??
Lets hear you ideas and see if it's feasible.......
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Other clubs are chasing big name players and we are chasing the likes of Maric lol. Just shows whats going on at RFC. I'll come back to this next monday but I get the feeling we will all be disappointed AGAIN and the likes of Blaisee will be back here defending the indefensible. ;)
Ok mate since you have all the answers what do you propose we do
And be specific.
Jinx ;D
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LOL
sometimes it's like watching an episode of grumpy old men on here.
Thats what statins will do to ya.
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In all fairness we are only really after a ruckman and there ain't any big name ruckmen on the market?
Also it seem's that we are over looking the fact that we aren't really in a position to go after a big fish...You have to give somthing good to get something good and we don't have Shlt.......
When you have given supporters crap return over 30 years of misery, when your supporters rattled tins for the club to survive, when those same supporters buy huge numbers of memberships keeping our club at the forefront and when those supporters contribute $3 million in 12 months to a fighting fund - then you have an obligation to provide hope. If Richmond leaves this trade week having done mini level trades then they can all get stuffed in the administration. It just means that they want our money so they can live on great salaries and they have the attitude that we can all get stuffed. Well I will wait till Monday. I hope Im wrong, but I seen this movie too many times, rubbish level trades and then the apologists come out to defend the clubs administration. But I will I wait and as I said If Im wrong I will apologise on Monday afternoon. :cheers
What you guys have to do is answer to the above post. I saw that you both failed to answer any part of this post and you Blaisee in particular have started already your annual "what do you want us to do stuff" - to everyone on this forum that means that trade week is probably gonna be another failure but can you please answer my post, why should everyone in Richmonds administration keep our support when in effect 90% of the time THE PRODUCE NOTHING IN TRADE WEEK!
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
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Jackson, McGuane, Nason, Farmer etc for Mitch Clark & Daniel Merrett
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
I'm not working at Richmond so I dont have the ability to do anything. I have simply put up an argument that our administration never produces anything at trade time, they havent done so for years but year in year out they basically beg us for memberships, fighting funds, jack dyer foundations, raffles etc etc. All Im saying is
WHERE IS THE RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS?
Truth is there is none and there hasnt been any return for us for 3 decades. Im not an apologist for the clubs admin like some others. I call it how I see it - our administration has constantly failed to provide any hope for the supporters.
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lol....Your the one backing down from the question :wallywink The past is the past, it is well documented we have failed miserably! But we have been steadily moving forward for a couple of seasons now.
I thought we did quite O.K out of last years Draft and trade period? we gave up little but in return gained 2 players who had an immediate impact on the side and look as though they will for a season or two yet.
You the one banging on about "Its a disgrace we don't chase big names" but as has been put to you, Get it out there, who do you think we should be going after and what should we be offering to get them?
Please correct me if i'm wrong but I do actually don't see us being in a position to to do SFA this trade period??
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
I'm not working at Richmond so I dont have the ability to do anything. I have simply put up an argument that our administration never produces anything at trade time, they havent done so for years but year in year out they basically beg us for memberships, fighting funds, jack dyer foundations, raffles etc etc. All Im saying is
WHERE IS THE RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS?
Truth is there is none and there hasnt been any return for us for 3 decades. Im not an apologist for the clubs admin like some others. I call it how I see it - our administration has constantly failed to provide any hope for the supporters.
Mate, you flogging a dead horse :banghead :banghead Unfortunately if you don't like it get off the train...... :wallywink
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lol....Your the one backing down from the question :wallywink The past is the past, it is well documented we have failed miserably! But we have been steadily moving forward for a couple of seasons now.
I thought we did quite O.K out of last years Draft and trade period? we gave up little but in return gained 2 players who had an immediate impact on the side and look as though they will for a season or two yet.
You the one banging on about "Its a disgrace we don't chase big names" but as has been put to you, Get it out there, who do you think we should be going after and what should we be offering to get them?
Please correct me if i'm wrong but I do actually don't see us being in a position to to do SFA this trade period??
I answered your question. You havent answered mine. The apologists never answer but every year the poor mums and dads put there hard earned into the club for NO RESULT- ZIP. Its a disgrace and you all know it.
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
I'm not working at Richmond so I dont have the ability to do anything. I have simply put up an argument that our administration never produces anything at trade time, they havent done so for years but year in year out they basically beg us for memberships, fighting funds, jack dyer foundations, raffles etc etc. All Im saying is
WHERE IS THE RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS?
Truth is there is none and there hasnt been any return for us for 3 decades. Im not an apologist for the clubs admin like some others. I call it how I see it - our administration has constantly failed to provide any hope for the supporters.
Mate, you flogging a dead horse :banghead :banghead Unfortunately if you don't like it get off the train...... :wallywink
And thats the truth of it. YOU all know what Im saying is true but you dont want to admit it. As I said, I will apologise on Monday if they produce a decent trade for a big name but if not, I will be back asking the same question- Where is the return for the supporters and why should we continue to fund an administration that never gives any hope to the supporters. Until next Monday lads ;D
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You didn't ask a question?? if so then post it again, because i'll be buggered if I seen it??
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
I'm not working at Richmond so I dont have the ability to do anything. I have simply put up an argument that our administration never produces anything at trade time, they havent done so for years but year in year out they basically beg us for memberships, fighting funds, jack dyer foundations, raffles etc etc. All Im saying is
WHERE IS THE RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS?
Truth is there is none and there hasnt been any return for us for 3 decades. Im not an apologist for the clubs admin like some others. I call it how I see it - our administration has constantly failed to provide any hope for the supporters.
Im not asking what specifically you would do, just an example of a trade that would satisfy you?
You know one that would make you happy? One that would give you hope or make you feel there is A RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS.
Or is it a case of no realistic trade deal would satisfy you?
Set a benchmark for happiness Ramps. ;D
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And thats the truth of it. YOU all know what Im saying is true but you dont want to admit it. As I said, I will apologise on Monday if they produce a decent trade for a big name but if not, I will be back asking the same question- Where is the return for the supporters and why should we continue to fund an administration that never gives any hope to the supporters. Until next Monday lads ;D
Nah mate, you'v dug to deep to pike out now, I will ask again...Who do you think we should be chasing and What should we give up for them?
You have nothing because you know we arn't in a position to do anything..... YET you will be blaming the administration on Monday for failing to act on something you can't answer yourself!!
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And thats the truth of it. YOU all know what Im saying is true but you dont want to admit it. As I said, I will apologise on Monday if they produce a decent trade for a big name but if not, I will be back asking the same question- Where is the return for the supporters and why should we continue to fund an administration that never gives any hope to the supporters. Until next Monday lads ;D
Nah mate, you'v dug to deep to pike out now, I will ask again...Who do you think we should be chasing and What should we give up for them?
You have nothing because you know we arn't in a position to do anything..... YET you will be blaming the administration on Monday for failing to act on something you can't answer yourself!!
I already answered your question. Your from Tassie, I know that but seriously .... and yes I will blaming the administration on Monday if they dont provide any hope for the mums and dads supporters who from there love and loyalty put their hard earned into a club whose administration never produces at trade time. Whats more to say. Thats the truth. Its been the truth for 30 years.
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TigerfromTas - giving all Tasmanians a bad name since whenever he joined OER....;D
dont worry rampsy, I see your point. agree with some of what you say. we could make an attempt to trade one of our good players if we really wanted to. surely Foleys name will be put forward this week....
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In all fairness we are only really after a ruckman and there ain't any big name ruckmen on the market?
Also it seem's that we are over looking the fact that we aren't really in a position to go after a big fish...You have to give somthing good to get something good and we don't have Shlt.......
When you have given supporters crap return over 30 years of misery, when your supporters rattled tins for the club to survive, when those same supporters buy huge numbers of memberships keeping our club at the forefront and when those supporters contribute $3 million in 12 months to a fighting fund - then you have an obligation to provide hope. If Richmond leaves this trade week having done mini level trades then they can all get stuffed in the administration. It just means that they want our money so they can live on great salaries and they have the attitude that we can all get stuffed. Well I will wait till Monday. I hope Im wrong, but I seen this movie too many times, rubbish level trades and then the apologists come out to defend the clubs administration. But I will I wait and as I said If Im wrong I will apologise on Monday afternoon. :cheers
One of the most senseless, short-sighted posts I've heard in a while. Glad your not in charge.
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
I'm not working at Richmond so I dont have the ability to do anything. I have simply put up an argument that our administration never produces anything at trade time, they havent done so for years but year in year out they basically beg us for memberships, fighting funds, jack dyer foundations, raffles etc etc. All Im saying is
WHERE IS THE RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS?
Truth is there is none and there hasnt been any return for us for 3 decades. Im not an apologist for the clubs admin like some others. I call it how I see it - our administration has constantly failed to provide any hope for the supporters.
Mate, you flogging a dead horse :banghead :banghead Unfortunately if you don't like it get off the train...... :wallywink
And thats the truth of it. YOU all know what Im saying is true but you dont want to admit it. As I said, I will apologise on Monday if they produce a decent trade for a big name but if not, I will be back asking the same question- Where is the return for the supporters and why should we continue to fund an administration that never gives any hope to the supporters. Until next Monday lads ;D
I agree with you Flags.
If anyone at Punt Rd had anything the resembled a brain.
You would target players from the top 4 clubs, NOT bottom clubs.
Players who have played finals recently or just missed out could bring something to our club.
A ruckman who cant get a game at Adelaide would bring a cold , and thats about it,
No winning culture, no finals experience, NOTHING.
Thats why we have been failures for 30 years.
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...bit harsh to blame current admin for 30years worth of cock ups (granted we have made our share)...at this stage we seem to be moving in the right direction & part of the recent money raised (FTF etc) probably won't take effect for a year or two (or more) as we upgrade punt rd, invest in new development staff, pay off large debts (from previous admins) etc....not all the money goes into immediately landing a "big fish"...at this stage I think we did pretty well last year (as mentioned 2 immediate impacts who have improved our list) and we still need a couple of seasons for Dimma and the new admins to work through the dead wood & continue to upgrade the list on a needs basis...plus the first 80% of trade week is generally posturing by clubs - a few trades will get done and get the ball rolling...if we come out of trade week with our list improved then I think they have all done their jobs...just my op :)
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10F, We have tried the big trades and where that get us?
Nathan Brown, Kane Johnston, Justin Blumfield :huh, Troy Simmonds were all big names at the time of being traded and where did that end up?
Big trades will become much more relevant when/if we start getting into the 8 - the Hawks pretty much have it down pat IMO.
I would also argue that this thread would be more relevant next year when free agency begins. Who we keep and who we get will be where the club will truly begin to prove whether or not they can give your hard earned a return.
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most of you cant see we are going around in circles.
As has been evident in recent times with the recruiting of guys like Farmer, Taylor , Roberts etc
These are all recent recruits, :banghead :banghead :banghead
Sorry, but I am with Flags on this :gotigers
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I already answered your question. Your from Tassie, I know that but seriously
lol......I was waiting for the insults to start :wallywink :wallywink You haven't answered my question in any shape or form and honestly what does being from Tasmanian have anything to do with what I have posted?
Grow some Balls mate and put out there what you think the club should be doing this trade period! Clearly you to scared to put your neck on the line :wallywink :wallywink
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In all fairness we are only really after a ruckman and there ain't any big name ruckmen on the market?
Also it seem's that we are over looking the fact that we aren't really in a position to go after a big fish...You have to give somthing good to get something good and we don't have Shlt.......
When you have given supporters crap return over 30 years of misery, when your supporters rattled tins for the club to survive, when those same supporters buy huge numbers of memberships keeping our club at the forefront and when those supporters contribute $3 million in 12 months to a fighting fund - then you have an obligation to provide hope. If Richmond leaves this trade week having done mini level trades then they can all get stuffed in the administration. It just means that they want our money so they can live on great salaries and they have the attitude that we can all get stuffed. Well I will wait till Monday. I hope Im wrong, but I seen this movie too many times, rubbish level trades and then the apologists come out to defend the clubs administration. But I will I wait and as I said If Im wrong I will apologise on Monday afternoon. :cheers
One of the most senseless, short-sighted posts I've heard in a while. Glad your not in charge.
Truth hurts but its time for the administration to do something for the supporters and provide hope.
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10F, We have tried the big trades and where that get us?
Nathan Brown, Kane Johnston, Justin Blumfield :huh, Troy Simmonds were all big names at the time of being traded and where did that end up?
Big trades will become much more relevant when/if we start getting into the 8 - the Hawks pretty much have it down pat IMO.
I would also argue that this thread would be more relevant next year when free agency begins. Who we keep and who we get will be where the club will truly begin to prove whether or not they can give your hard earned a return.
All players mentioned above were all past there best footy :banghead Hardly big names, Brown HAD A BIG HEAD, still has
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Thing that poos me is all the talk before the week that we were going to be active and 'land a big fish' and it all turns out to be total crap (thus far).
I don't care whether we trade or not as long as we keep improving and drafting well but it would be nice to lose the spin, which poos me more than anything else the admin do.
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In all fairness we are only really after a ruckman and there ain't any big name ruckmen on the market?
Also it seem's that we are over looking the fact that we aren't really in a position to go after a big fish...You have to give somthing good to get something good and we don't have Shlt.......
When you have given supporters crap return over 30 years of misery, when your supporters rattled tins for the club to survive, when those same supporters buy huge numbers of memberships keeping our club at the forefront and when those supporters contribute $3 million in 12 months to a fighting fund - then you have an obligation to provide hope. If Richmond leaves this trade week having done mini level trades then they can all get stuffed in the administration. It just means that they want our money so they can live on great salaries and they have the attitude that we can all get stuffed. Well I will wait till Monday. I hope Im wrong, but I seen this movie too many times, rubbish level trades and then the apologists come out to defend the clubs administration. But I will I wait and as I said If Im wrong I will apologise on Monday afternoon. :cheers
One of the most senseless, short-sighted posts I've heard in a while. Glad your not in charge.
Truth hurts but its time for the administration to do something for the supporters and provide hope.
How true, the truth does hurt.
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I know where 10F is coming from, unfortunately trade period is bull$%t. The whole period is just bogus, free agency will make it more interesting, clubs value their assets far to highly. Paul Bower has suddenly become Silvagni an Mitch Clark is Wayne Carey, is just a waste of time.
Where I will judge the club is the delistings, I appreciate the fact we are trying to ship off McGuane who is contracted. It's hard to criticise the club not landing a big fish if a) none is available b) none want to come and c) we have nothing offer is one comes along. So I don't think we can criticise the club for not landing players, last years trade period was a success.
The big big big challenge for our clubs is to successful move on the players that are no good. Now with trading out the ones contracted and delist the ones that aren't.
Will know we're our admin is at come list lodgement..
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Thing that poos me is all the talk before the week that we were going to be active and 'land a big fish' and it all turns out to be total crap (thus far).
I don't care whether we trade or not as long as we keep improving and drafting well but it would be nice to lose the spin, which poos me more than anything else the admin do.
Mate, we cant even put the bait on the hook, let alone catch a 'minnow"" ::)
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most of you cant see we are going around in circles.
As has been evident in recent times with the recruiting of guys like Farmer, Taylor , Roberts etc
These are all recent recruits, :banghead :banghead :banghead
Sorry, but I am with Flags on this :gotigers
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I was waiting for you to chime in, once again it proves you only ever post when there's a chance to bash the club :wallywink
I will put the same question to you and I bet you wont answer either....
Who should the club be targeting this trade period and what should we be offering for them??
C'mon smart arse......
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problem is trade week we offer the likes of Morton, Connors etc.
NOBODY WANTS THEM PEOPLE !!!
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Since when does 'supporters return' come from the club reeling off big trades at trade week???? :-[
you do realize that to get something significant you have to give up something significant? They basically cancel each other out.
Come on, you made a terrible comment about the club not landing something big and therefor failing supporters at trade week. Then you have tried to divert attention from it by rehashing some old horse poo about old club failures that we have all heard before, and then talking yourself up as some renegade who 'calls it like it is.' :wallywink
Admit it, you made a poo call. Lets all move on. Either that, or you actually believe what you said and you are just a gimp.
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problem is trade week we offer the likes of Morton, Connors etc.
NOBODY WANTS THEM PEOPLE !!!
So who should we be offering FFS :banghead :banghead :banghead
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why don't you give us an example of a trade that would satisfy you flagman?
I'm not working at Richmond so I dont have the ability to do anything. I have simply put up an argument that our administration never produces anything at trade time, they havent done so for years but year in year out they basically beg us for memberships, fighting funds, jack dyer foundations, raffles etc etc. All Im saying is
WHERE IS THE RETURN FOR THE SUPPORTERS?
Truth is there is none and there hasnt been any return for us for 3 decades. Im not an apologist for the clubs admin like some others. I call it how I see it - our administration has constantly failed to provide any hope for the supporters.
Mate, you flogging a dead horse :banghead :banghead Unfortunately if you don't like it get off the train...... :wallywink
And thats the truth of it. YOU all know what Im saying is true but you dont want to admit it. As I said, I will apologise on Monday if they produce a decent trade for a big name but if not, I will be back asking the same question- Where is the return for the supporters and why should we continue to fund an administration that never gives any hope to the supporters. Until next Monday lads ;D
I agree with you Flags.
If anyone at Punt Rd had anything the resembled a brain.
You would target players from the top 4 clubs, NOT bottom clubs.
Players who have played finals recently or just missed out could bring something to our club.
A ruckman who cant get a game at Adelaide would bring a cold , and thats about it,
No winning culture, no finals experience, NOTHING.
Thats why we have been failures for 30 years.
I disagree with this to an extent J - that is a sure fire way to pay premium rates for a player whose deficiencies are covered up by playing in a quality team. There are PLENTY of talented players at bottom clubs and its easier to get them bc a lot more of them may not be at the top of their form. Easier to get a Bate type cheaper from struggling Melbourne than if he was playing at a top 4 side.
Thats what distinguishes the top recruiters from the pack - got to have the eye to be able to identify strengths in players that will benefit us even if their perceived current form is crap due to playing in a crap side.
I dont expect the world from the club just NO DUMB ERRORS like a second rounder for Maric
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most of you cant see we are going around in circles.
As has been evident in recent times with the recruiting of guys like Farmer, Taylor , Roberts etc
These are all recent recruits, :banghead :banghead :banghead
Sorry, but I am with Flags on this :gotigers
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I was waiting for you to chime in, once again it proves you only ever post when there's a chance to bash the club :wallywink
I will put the same question to you and I bet you wont answer either....
Who should the club be targeting this trade period and what should we be offering for them??
C'mon smart behind......
Would of offered North Melbourne either Edwards/Foley/Griffiths for Hamish McIntosh. Maybe even 2 of them
POINTLESS offerring rubbish players.
Would of all tried to get Jarrod Waite for say a Griffiths.and a pick
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10F, We have tried the big trades and where that get us?
Nathan Brown, Kane Johnston, Justin Blumfield :huh, Troy Simmonds were all big names at the time of being traded and where did that end up?
Big trades will become much more relevant when/if we start getting into the 8 - the Hawks pretty much have it down pat IMO.
I would also argue that this thread would be more relevant next year when free agency begins. Who we keep and who we get will be where the club will truly begin to prove whether or not they can give your hard earned a return.
All players mentioned above were all past there best footy :banghead Hardly big names, Brown HAD A BIG HEAD, still has
LMAO. Nathan Brown was 25-26 when we got him. He was having his best ever year in 05 until he snapped his leg off. Troy Simmonds had a career best year in 2006. Johnson went on to captain the club and Blumfield never wanted to play for us anyway
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Thing that poos me is all the talk before the week that we were going to be active and 'land a big fish' and it all turns out to be total crap (thus far).
I don't care whether we trade or not as long as we keep improving and drafting well but it would be nice to lose the spin, which poos me more than anything else the admin do.
You talk a lot of sense TBR - this is my biggest gripe with the club. I cant stand BS propaganda machines. For this very reason I was pretty annoyed that we came out publicly with the 3-0-75. Not so much the debt and membership aims but to say we expect 3 finals series by 2014 now means we need to make finals 2012-14, if we dont make finals next year (and personally I dont believe we realistically can do it yet) the media will bring up the quotes and make Dimmas life hell. The club continually seem to put their foot in their mouth by making these types of silly unnecesary statements. KEEP IT INTERNAL.
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also i totally disagree with the idea of recruting for 5 years time , as this club has repeated down and FAILED.
Recruit for the next 2-3 years and give it your best shot I say.
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Come on boys would rather we do nothing in trade week and keep our picks for the draft whilst keeping our salary cap space open for next year when free trade comes in.
Furthermore we have Deledio to sign up in the next 12 months.
Adding to that there will be at least some duds who will be gone in the list.
As I said Maric for a player to player swap or the PSD.
If McGuane Morton Foley or anybody else can get us a pick then I'll take that too.
It's not all about next year boys.
FLagman I understand your pain and I recognise your frustration most on here do but IMHO I actually think that we are performing much better now on and off the field than we have in 28 of the last 30 years and that right now is more comfort than we are used to.
Trade week still has till next Monday alot of water to go under the bridge between now and then and if no much H2O is flowing and we keep our draft picks and our compo pick without making any disatrous trades and overpaying for them then I'll still sleep easy. :thumbsup
We can't sit here and say on one hand Dimma had a train wreck of a list and needs more than 3 years to overhaul it and on the other hand want big names brought to the club when we have not much to offer and what is wanted by others is untouchable. Sit tight still six days to go we have done well with the Morris trade and lost nothing whilst gaining a player for nix and that in itself is a win for us at this stage of proceedings.
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Since when does 'supporters return' come from the club reeling off big trades at trade week???? :-[
you do realize that to get something significant you have to give up something significant? They basically cancel each other out.
Come on, you made a terrible comment about the club not landing something big and therefor failing supporters at trade week. Then you have tried to divert attention from it by rehashing some old horse poo about old club failures that we have all heard before, and then talking yourself up as some renegade who 'calls it like it is.' :wallywink
Admit it, you made a poo call. Lets all move on. Either that, or you actually believe what you said and you are just a gimp.
I stand 100% behind everything I said. Everything I said is correct. Richmond supporters deserve some hope. Will they provide some this year? Or will they do what they usually do which is nothing. The administration has a responsibility to 47000 members, to the supporters, to the people who contributed to the JDF and the Fighting Fund. At the moment its just all one way traffic - they just want us to give them money but they never produce anything at trade time or usually during the season. The truth hurts I understand it but you guys need to be honest about this And admit that the dlub has constantly failed the supporters.
As I said I stand by comments 100%.
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most of you cant see we are going around in circles.
As has been evident in recent times with the recruiting of guys like Farmer, Taylor , Roberts etc
These are all recent recruits, :banghead :banghead :banghead
Sorry, but I am with Flags on this :gotigers
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I was waiting for you to chime in, once again it proves you only ever post when there's a chance to bash the club :wallywink
I will put the same question to you and I bet you wont answer either....
Who should the club be targeting this trade period and what should we be offering for them??
C'mon smart behind......
Would of offered North Melbourne either Edwards/Foley/Griffiths for Hamish McIntosh. Maybe even 2 of them
POINTLESS offerring rubbish players.
Would of all tried to get Jarrod Waite for say a Griffiths.and a pick
McIntosh is a dinosaur, doesn't fit the cubs trading age bracket and would be washed up in two years time! Fine trade that would be :banghead
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and I agree Flags 100% :thumbsup
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most of you cant see we are going around in circles.
As has been evident in recent times with the recruiting of guys like Farmer, Taylor , Roberts etc
These are all recent recruits, :banghead :banghead :banghead
Sorry, but I am with Flags on this :gotigers
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I was waiting for you to chime in, once again it proves you only ever post when there's a chance to bash the club :wallywink
I will put the same question to you and I bet you wont answer either....
Who should the club be targeting this trade period and what should we be offering for them??
C'mon smart behind......
Would of offered North Melbourne either Edwards/Foley/Griffiths for Hamish McIntosh. Maybe even 2 of them
POINTLESS offerring rubbish players.
Would of all tried to get Jarrod Waite for say a Griffiths.and a pick
McIntosh is a dinosaur, doesn't fit the cubs trading age bracket and would be washed up in two years time! Fine trade that would be :banghead
You have no idea, can play
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Since when does 'supporters return' come from the club reeling off big trades at trade week???? :-[
you do realize that to get something significant you have to give up something significant? They basically cancel each other out.
Come on, you made a terrible comment about the club not landing something big and therefor failing supporters at trade week. Then you have tried to divert attention from it by rehashing some old horse poo about old club failures that we have all heard before, and then talking yourself up as some renegade who 'calls it like it is.' :wallywink
Admit it, you made a poo call. Lets all move on. Either that, or you actually believe what you said and you are just a gimp.
I stand 100% behind everything I said. Everything I said is correct. Richmond supporters deserve some hope. Will they provide some this year? Or will they do what they usually do which is nothing. The administration has a responsibility to 47000 members, to the supporters, to the people who contributed to the JDF and the Fighting Fund. At the moment its just all one way traffic - they just want us to give them money but they never produce anything at trade time or usually during the season. The truth hurts I understand it but you guys need to be honest about this And admit that the dlub has constantly failed the supporters.
As I said I stand by comments 100%.
And yet you still won't answer my question....??
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Hey Tassie, forget about what the club say about age brackets and there rubbish, they need footballers,
Oh yeah, Geelong were told old
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Clearly I don't....Lets see how he goes in the next season or two......
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10F, We have tried the big trades and where that get us?
Nathan Brown, Kane Johnston, Justin Blumfield :huh, Troy Simmonds were all big names at the time of being traded and where did that end up?
Big trades will become much more relevant when/if we start getting into the 8 - the Hawks pretty much have it down pat IMO.
I would also argue that this thread would be more relevant next year when free agency begins. Who we keep and who we get will be where the club will truly begin to prove whether or not they can give your hard earned a return.
All players mentioned above were all past there best footy :banghead Hardly big names, Brown HAD A BIG HEAD, still has
LMAO. Nathan Brown was 25-26 when we got him. He was having his best ever year in 05 until he snapped his leg off. Troy Simmonds had a career best year in 2006. Johnson went on to captain the club and Blumfield never wanted to play for us anyway
just quoting this again.
I like how you avoid replying when you've been called out, JJ. and dont give me "you nuffer you believe everything the club says" etc. Reply directly to my point about the blokes we traded for.
thanks,
gg
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Of those mentioned only Brown was a star. The rest were as Jack Dyer use to say good ordinary footballers IMHO.
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Of those mentioned only Brown was a star. The rest were as Jack Dyer use to say good ordinary footballers IMHO.
agree but JJ said they were all past their best which obviously aint true
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Hey Tassie, forget about what the club say about age brackets and there rubbish, they need footballers,
Oh yeah, Geelong were told old
No point trading big for a bloke who in two years will be retired or washed up and then where will we be. McMahon bashing all over again.
It's a fine line but I will stick with the kids and blokes who fit the age group we are after and keep our picks until something that we are after fits the bill. You wouldn't waste money for the sake of wasting it so why waste picks on something that won't fit our necessities keep them and go the draft path.
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Hey guys.
What's going on in here?
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Flags, you keep rattling on about hope, but you wont say what will give you hope? :huh
The jack man is reeling off some pure ...um...gold in this thread :lol
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Clearly I don't....Lets see how he goes in the next season or two......
Mate, seen Hamish at the North Melbourne pool in middle of Jan this year, he couldnt walk, he was shot them, he had 2 achilles ops and to his credit, did can back and play the last month.
You think he is soft.
WHAT ABOUT DANIEL CONNORS, NOWS THERE IS SOFT .
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one thing is for certain.
We dont play finals in 2012., we will have a mutiny at punt road.
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Grant Thomas reckons he's a sissy and GT knows more than you, JJ.
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one thing is for certain.
We dont play finals in 2012., we will have a mutiny at punt road.
why are you so effing negative. just wait and see mate. or do you really want to say "i told you so" that badly?
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Grant Thomas reckons he's a limpgot and GT knows more than you, JJ.
I like Grant actually.
he is also says Milne is no good either ::)
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Since when does 'supporters return' come from the club reeling off big trades at trade week???? :-[
you do realize that to get something significant you have to give up something significant? They basically cancel each other out.
Come on, you made a terrible comment about the club not landing something big and therefor failing supporters at trade week. Then you have tried to divert attention from it by rehashing some old horse poo about old club failures that we have all heard before, and then talking yourself up as some renegade who 'calls it like it is.' :wallywink
Admit it, you made a poo call. Lets all move on. Either that, or you actually believe what you said and you are just a gimp.
I stand 100% behind everything I said. Everything I said is correct. Richmond supporters deserve some hope. Will they provide some this year? Or will they do what they usually do which is nothing. The administration has a responsibility to 47000 members, to the supporters, to the people who contributed to the JDF and the Fighting Fund. At the moment its just all one way traffic - they just want us to give them money but they never produce anything at trade time or usually during the season. The truth hurts I understand it but you guys need to be honest about this And admit that the dlub has constantly failed the supporters.
As I said I stand by comments 100%.
then you are a fool.
Your original comment implies that the club is failing supporters and not providing 'hope' by not landing a big fish at trade week. A plainly stupid statement. Obviously, trades should be completed for the best interest of the football club, not for the biggest headline. If that means only small trades for us this year, then so be it. 'Hope' comes in the form of adhering to a plan, drafting well and not making foolish trades like the McMuffin bungle. It also comes in the form of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Dylan Grimes.
If you need big trades to give you 'hope' then you must have a pretty bleak disposition. :-\
After making this terrible statement, you then digressed by rattling off tired rhetoric about past administrations failures and talking yourself up as an internet hero.
I think the fact that Jackstar has crawled out of his lonely badger cave to get your back pretty much speaks for itself. You have embarrassed yourself in this thread.
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one thing is for certain.
We dont play finals in 2012., we will have a mutiny at punt road.
why are you so effing negative. just wait and see mate. or do you really want to say "i told you so" that badly?
WELL I AINT THE CLUB, I DIDNT COME OUT AND SAY WE WOULD PLAY FINALS 3 TIMES BY 2014.
THAT MEANS FINALS 2012/2013/2014
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Grant Thomas reckons he's a limpgot and GT knows more than you, JJ.
I like Grant actually.
he is also says Milne is no good either ::)
He actually says Milne is a gun but doesn't perform often enough in big games.
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Since when does 'supporters return' come from the club reeling off big trades at trade week???? :-[
you do realize that to get something significant you have to give up something significant? They basically cancel each other out.
Come on, you made a terrible comment about the club not landing something big and therefor failing supporters at trade week. Then you have tried to divert attention from it by rehashing some old horse poo about old club failures that we have all heard before, and then talking yourself up as some renegade who 'calls it like it is.' :wallywink
Admit it, you made a poo call. Lets all move on. Either that, or you actually believe what you said and you are just a gimp.
I stand 100% behind everything I said. Everything I said is correct. Richmond supporters deserve some hope. Will they provide some this year? Or will they do what they usually do which is nothing. The administration has a responsibility to 47000 members, to the supporters, to the people who contributed to the JDF and the Fighting Fund. At the moment its just all one way traffic - they just want us to give them money but they never produce anything at trade time or usually during the season. The truth hurts I understand it but you guys need to be honest about this And admit that the dlub has constantly failed the supporters.
As I said I stand by comments 100%.
then you are a fool.
Your original comment implies that the club is failing supporters and not providing 'hope' by not landing a big fish at trade week. A plainly stupid statement. Obviously, trades should be completed for the best interest of the football club, not for the biggest headline. If that means only small trades for us this year, then so be it. 'Hope' comes in the form of adhering to a plan, drafting well and not making foolish trades like the McMuffin bungle. It also comes in the form of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Dylan Grimes.
If you need big trades to give you 'hope' then you must have a pretty bleak disposition. :-\
After making this terrible statement, you then digressed by rattling off tired rhetoric about past administrations failures and talking yourself up as an internet hero.
I think the fact that Jackstar has crawled out of his lonely badger cave to get your back pretty much speaks for itself. You have embarrassed yourself in this thread.
3 players dont make a team ::) you can dream though
Look at Geelong, they are all stars
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Since when does 'supporters return' come from the club reeling off big trades at trade week???? :-[
you do realize that to get something significant you have to give up something significant? They basically cancel each other out.
Come on, you made a terrible comment about the club not landing something big and therefor failing supporters at trade week. Then you have tried to divert attention from it by rehashing some old horse poo about old club failures that we have all heard before, and then talking yourself up as some renegade who 'calls it like it is.' :wallywink
Admit it, you made a poo call. Lets all move on. Either that, or you actually believe what you said and you are just a gimp.
I stand 100% behind everything I said. Everything I said is correct. Richmond supporters deserve some hope. Will they provide some this year? Or will they do what they usually do which is nothing. The administration has a responsibility to 47000 members, to the supporters, to the people who contributed to the JDF and the Fighting Fund. At the moment its just all one way traffic - they just want us to give them money but they never produce anything at trade time or usually during the season. The truth hurts I understand it but you guys need to be honest about this And admit that the dlub has constantly failed the supporters.
As I said I stand by comments 100%.
then you are a fool.
Your original comment implies that the club is failing supporters and not providing 'hope' by not landing a big fish at trade week. A plainly stupid statement. Obviously, trades should be completed for the best interest of the football club, not for the biggest headline. If that means only small trades for us this year, then so be it. 'Hope' comes in the form of adhering to a plan, drafting well and not making foolish trades like the McMuffin bungle. It also comes in the form of Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Dylan Grimes.
If you need big trades to give you 'hope' then you must have a pretty bleak disposition. :-\
After making this terrible statement, you then digressed by rattling off tired rhetoric about past administrations failures and talking yourself up as an internet hero.
I think the fact that Jackstar has crawled out of his lonely badger cave to get your back pretty much speaks for itself. You have embarrassed yourself in this thread.
3 players dont make a team ::) you can dream though
Look at Geelong, they are all stars
I shouldn't argue with spastics, but they were examples of players that give supporters 'hope'
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;)
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Grant Thomas was a thug on the football field, truth be known.
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How predictable.
I asked for an example and you don't have one.
You and jack are experts at throwing cheap shots from the cheap seats
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Grant Thomas was a thug on the football field, truth be known.
Knows how to belt a bloke off the field too
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doesn't surprise me.
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How predictable.
I asked for an example and you don't have one.
You and jack are experts at throwing cheap shots from the cheap seats
You and me both Buddy.
LMAFO at idiots sprouting there mouths off about "the club should do this" "the club should do that" yet thse same fools seem to have NFI themselves :wallywink :wallywink :lol :lol
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Perhaps this is the big fish to make the grumpy old men happy?
A poster on BF is swearing black and blue that Sentana O'Helpless is a dead set to be at Richmond next year.
:chuck :help
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Perhaps this is the big fish to make the grumpy old men happy?
A poster on BF is swearing black and blue that Sentana O'Helpless is a dead set to be at Richmond next year.
:chuck :help
Thats good Burly if nothing else :help :help :lol
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Would rather re draft McMahon on a new 3 year deal and get Ty Esler out of retirement to take up the number one ruck post than have O'Hailpin. :help
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good burley if you want to catch whop whop fish.
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Even putting aside the fact that he is useless, what possible use would we have for Setanta?
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Even putting aside the fact that he is useless, what possible use would we have for Setanta?
I think you just answered your own question, TBR.
none.
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Quote from: Jackstar is back again on Today at 08:03:52 PM
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Would of offered North Melbourne either Edwards/Foley/Griffiths for Hamish McIntosh. Maybe even 2 of them
POINTLESS offerring rubbish players.
Would of all tried to get Jarrod Waite for say a Griffiths.and a pick"
And yet Nathan Brown, Troy Simmonds and Kane Johnstone were past their best?
:help
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Even putting aside the fact that he is useless, what possible use would we have for Setanta?
Maybe were thinking about drafting Cameron Cloke?? :lol :lol
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Even putting aside the fact that he is useless, what possible use would we have for Setanta?
Getting into behind the play fights with Jackson in intra club matches. :lol :rollin :lol
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Thing that poos me is all the talk before the week that we were going to be active and 'land a big fish' and it all turns out to be total crap (thus far).
I don't care whether we trade or not as long as we keep improving and drafting well but it would be nice to lose the spin, which poos me more than anything else the admin do.
Don't go down the path of 'changing the fact to suit the story' TBR. The "big fish" comment was made by Hardwick at this years Fighting Fund launch in February and the Hun article at the time said:
"RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says wiping the club's debt will put the Tigers in a position to nab a big fish when free agency begins next year.
As revealed in the Herald Sun this morning, The Tigers today announced their Fighting Tiger Fun which aims to raise $6 million from fans to clear the club's debt and build the football department.
Hardwick said Richmond had not been able to compete with the offers of other clubs when stars such as Chris Judd had come on the market.
Next year players will have more freedom to move between clubs, and the Tigers hope to be building a young list towards becoming a top-four challenger.
Hardwick said the money raised through the fund would allow the club to retain its stars by paying 100 per cent of its salary cap, and create a "war chest" to recruit the best available talent."
No mention or promise of "big fish" this year and you should at least cut the club the slack of waiting until the end of trade week to lambast it for not being active. Just because the club says it intends to be active doesn't mean it automatically can be. What if there are simply no trades that suit us? Would you rather we trade our arses off just for the sake of it, regardless of long term benefit/outcome?
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one thing is for certain.
We dont play finals in 2012., we will have a mutiny at punt road.
why are you so effing negative. just wait and see mate. or do you really want to say "i told you so" that badly?
WELL I AINT THE CLUB, I DIDNT COME OUT AND SAY WE WOULD PLAY FINALS 3 TIMES BY 2014.
THAT MEANS FINALS 2012/2013/2014
And last time I looked it was still 2011 so the above statement can still very easily come to fruition. Your point Jack?
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Don't go down the path of 'changing the fact to suit the story' TBR. The "big fish" comment was made by Hardwick at this years Fighting Fund launch in February and the Hun article at the time said:
LMAO at TBR getting the blame for starting this :lol :lol :lol :lol
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How predictable.
I asked for an example and you don't have one.
You and jack are experts at throwing cheap shots from the cheap seats
The only thing that is predictable is that you will come on here and tell us how great we were during trade week, selling the same old lines to the supporters year in year out. Isnt 30 years of failure enough for you Mr Blaisee? Dont Richmond supporters deserve better? As I said before, seen this movie too many times but I will wait until Monday.
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why wont you even give a clue as to what will be a pass mark so we know how close the club gets?
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Don't go down the path of 'changing the fact to suit the story' TBR. The "big fish" comment was made by Hardwick at this years Fighting Fund launch in February and the Hun article at the time said:
LMAO at TBR getting the blame for starting this :lol :lol :lol :lol
:lol
Your turn TFT. I didn't blame TBR for starting it, just highlighted his use of fibs as facts - pretty much what you have just done yourself. :P
But in all seriousness, to respond to some of the posters in this thread, they seem to think the club is loaded up with complete dumb-arses that wouldn't know how to manage a half-decent nose-blowing session, let alone a football club. Thankfully, that isn't the case and most of us on here know that.
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Goddard for Deledio, theres your big fish
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what about nick for jack?
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Well it is a full moon tomorrow
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..more from that bottomless pit of rumours, BF.
Hey Lads not a regular on her however I have just spoken to tiger club offical and can confirm the following that you might not be aware of:
Matt White has been shopped around as a possibile trade however there has been minimal interest.
However the big one I am hearing is that an intersate club has shown an interest in Dan Jackson and the tigers are considering off loading him (given his onfield indiscreations) for picks which could be on traded to Adelaide for Maric.
Also watch for the tigers to make a play for Tom Gillies at Geelong. Three 3yr offer on the table !!
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White_Adam [Adam White of Radio Sport National 927AM] twitter:
"Seaby, Renouf, Griffin and Maric are the ruckman that appear available and are being spoken about by interested clubs. Not so much Blake."
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Even putting aside the fact that he is useless, what possible use would we have for Setanta?
our new ruckman! ;)
:lol
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DeepThroat now has a new multi-club trade spiel ...
"Pretty much correct, I stated that DJ was no longer required by DH after his last suspension, we made a play for Tom Gillies last year as well, I also posted that, so dig it up doubters, but he was promised more game time with new coach. The cats are in a corner because if he doesn't get much game time next year he will be gone, DJ has been discussed. Pick 15 will get the deal done, I also stated last year that we were after Tom Lynch and now a year later he is going, don't be surprised if Tom G deal falls over that Tom L is followed through by the tigers as he is rated by Blair and co as a defender not a forward.
Also remember I stated last week that we may not have our first 3 picks and our compo pick this year and we would have to be trading back into the top 40 again. "
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Sorry guys.
Pick 15 and DJ for Tom Gillies and pick 26 or pick 40 odd( geel) geel may on trade DJ.
Luke macgaune and pick 55 for pick 33?? ( bris lions pick)
Pick 33 or 37 plus Connors for Ivan Maric & Tony Armstrong
Tony Armstrong will be traded to Sydney for a pick 40 odd.
Or
Pick 37 plus connors for Ivan Maric and a Pick that will be finalized at end of trading.
Or
Pick 15 to Hawks, hawks use pick 15 to on trade to crows for Gunston
We get Ivan and pick 24
We lose pick 15 & 55 and gain 24 and maric
Crows lose maric and Gunston and gain pick 15 and 55,
We trade 24 for Tom gillies straight swap.
These are some of the scenarios at the moment."
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"Hawks lose pick 24 for pick 15 that's saves us pick 37,
We get a hawks player or a player on traded to us by hawks as well don't know who yet.
You would be surprised how scenarios are on the table this week."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22563349&postcount=66
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Bloody hell, whats left to speculate on now.....
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Bloody hell, whats left to speculate on now.....
Yeah, he has all bases covered, just needs someone to hit a homer ;D
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He has the strike rate of Kim Hagdorn and Damian Barrett.
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one thing is for certain.
We dont play finals in 2012., we will have a mutiny at punt road.
why are you so effing negative. just wait and see mate. or do you really want to say "i told you so" that badly?
WELL I AINT THE CLUB, I DIDNT COME OUT AND SAY WE WOULD PLAY FINALS 3 TIMES BY 2014.
THAT MEANS FINALS 2012/2013/2014
They said it was an aim. If you took it as a promise/guarantee that's your problem. You can be a 1 man mutiny for all i care. Ill still be there supporting in 2013.
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Am I the only one that is a bit stumped that we 'seem' to be going balls and all for maric yet we hear boo about Renouf and Seaby?
and before the do gooders start saying "just bc its not reported doesnt mean they arent enquiring" - remember in this industry where there is smoke there is fire and there is no doubt we are almost tunnel visioned in our quest to get maric, if we were showing any interest elsewhere it would be leaked especially at this time.
btw hope rumours arent true that we opened negotiations with the crows with our 2nd rounder on the table :lol :whistle
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I am actually a little bit stumped as to why our powers to be yell from the roof tops how active and aggresive we will be during drade week and we haven't even let out a yelp yet....and probably won't!!!!
We need a ruckman and another defender........get to it Tigers..Maric and Toovey, then get rid of Edwards for a pick, McGuane for a pick and Jackson for something... :thumbsup
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btw hope rumours arent true that we opened negotiations with the crows with our 2nd rounder on the table :lol :whistle
Think that's exactly how we started since it was reported by the Crows after day one of the meet and greets that our offer of pick 37 wasn't enough.
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Trade Week Day 2
Carlton is looking to offload either Setanta O'hAilpin or Paul Bower during the trade period in order to ensure that it complies with the rules that say clubs must have three draft selections.
Geelong says Tom Gillies is a required player and has not considered a request to trade the defender to Hawthorn, which is unable to offer the Cats their first-round draft pick for Gillies. The Hawks have already slated their first pick, no 24, as the selection they wish to use for Jack Gunston, the Adelaide forward who has requested a trade to the Hawks.
Port Adelaide is using a third club to seal a "come-home" trade for West Coast midfielder Brad Ebert. Ebert's return to Alberton could be achieved by tomorrow afternoon. The Power insists it will not meet West Coast's wish for Port's priority draft pick No. 28. Nor is the Power's first draft pick (No. 6) to be traded. Rather, Port is hopeful of engineering a player from a rival AFL club moving to West Coast, the Eagles releasing Ebert and the Power completing the three-way loop with a draft pick - possibly its No. 33 call in next month's national draft.
The Power today will also move on from contracted Fremantle ruckman Jon Griffin by medically testing and interviewing ruckmen who can move to Alberton in uncomplicated trades before Monday's deadline. This will certainly include Hawthorn premiership ruckman Brent Renouf and possibly Sydney and former West Coast ruckman Mark Seaby.
Port has not tested the supposed interest in the market for midfielder Steven Salopek and key defender Troy Chaplin.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/carlton-looks-to-offload-players-20111011-1lj5m.html#ixzz1aUKq0eVB
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/ports-risky-play-to-win-brad-ebert-deal/story-e6freco3-122616430497
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DeepThroat now has a new multi-club trade spiel ...
Pick 15 and DJ for Tom Gillies and pick 26 or pick 40 odd( geel) geel may on trade DJ.
That's so in favour of Geelong it's not funny.
Luke macgaune and pick 55 for pick 33?? ( bris lions pick)
If only the Lions were that keen.
Pick 33 or 37 plus Connors for Ivan Maric & Tony Armstrong
Tony Armstrong will be traded to Sydney for a pick 40 odd.
Practically saying a swap of Connors for Maric.
Or
Pick 37 plus connors for Ivan Maric and a Pick that will be finalized at end of trading.
A possibility.
Or
Pick 15 to Hawks, hawks use pick 15 to on trade to crows for Gunston
We get Ivan and pick 24
We lose pick 15 & 55 and gain 24 and maric
Crows lose maric and Gunston and gain pick 15 and 55
We trade 24 for Tom gillies straight swap.
So we wouldn't have a selection until pick 37 in weakened draft so to get two fringe players in Gillies (8 games in 3 years) and Maric ::).
"You would be surprised how scenarios are on the table this week."
Especially when they are made up on the net and you have a million different guesses :yep
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Port has not tested the supposed interest in the market for ... key defender Troy Chaplin.
Maybe there's still a chance to get a decent 'fish'.
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By the way almost 1300 posts and nothing yet has really happened :lol.
Imagine how long the trade rumour thread will end up next year when the trade period goes for 3 weeks! :help
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most of you cant see we are going around in circles.
As has been evident in recent times with the recruiting of guys like Farmer, Taylor , Roberts etc
These are all recent recruits, :banghead :banghead :banghead
Sorry, but I am with Flags on this :gotigers
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I was waiting for you to chime in, once again it proves you only ever post when there's a chance to bash the club :wallywink
I will put the same question to you and I bet you wont answer either....
Who should the club be targeting this trade period and what should we be offering for them??
C'mon smart behind......
Would of offered North Melbourne either Edwards/Foley/Griffiths for Hamish McIntosh. Maybe even 2 of them
POINTLESS offerring rubbish players.
Would of all tried to get Jarrod Waite for say a Griffiths.and a pick
SO Jack,
what your recommendation is to trade Griffiths a 20 yr old KP player and a draft pick for a 27 yr old ruckman on 650k who has played 1 game in 18months and has two achilles reconstructions?
or for Waite, a 29 yr old utility. You have no idea
Absolutely unreal.
Thank god you got the arse from the richmond football club, absolutely ridiculous
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Thank god you got the behind from the richmond football club
It's decisions like this that give us supporters hope :lol
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Thank god you got the behind from the richmond football club
It's decisions like this that give us supporters hope :lol
Wasn't he 'involved' with the club during the dark years? It shows :whistle
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PSD picks:
2008: Ben Cousins
2009: Dylan Grimes
2010: Bachar Houli
2011: Ivan Maric
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PSD picks:
2008: Ben Cousins
2009: Dylan Grimes
2010: Bachar Houli
2011: Ivan Maric
Makes for a good list.
Do you know what we did before 2008?
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PSD picks:
2008: Ben Cousins
2009: Dylan Grimes
2010: Bachar Houli
2011: Ivan Maric
Makes for a good list.
Do you know what we did before 2008?
Matt White - year ??
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PSD picks:
2008: Ben Cousins
2009: Dylan Grimes
2010: Bachar Houli
2011: Ivan Maric
Makes for a good list.
Do you know what we did before 2008?
Yes, but it wasnt worth including.
2007: David Gourdis
2006: Kent Kingsley
2005: Matthew White
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Just a question for all you gurus and unsure if it has been mentioned, Lovett Murray, (the one who didn't play a game for St Kilda) is he worth a punt?? Unsure if Nathan or Andrew, any upside??
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I am now trying to Beat myself to death........
Well we are looking at Maric and he is useless so why not
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Collingwood midfielder John McCarthy is considering offers from a number of rival clubs.
Western Bulldogs forward Josh Hill could be an Eagle by the end of the week.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567
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Well we are looking at Maric and he is useless so why not
Why do you think?? If Lovett was a half decent bloke he would still be on StKilda's list don't you think :wallywink
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I have updated the offical trades thread, we have trade #3.
ADELAIDE forward Jack Gunston has been traded to Hawthorn.
In a deal completed on Wednesday, Adelaide traded Gunston along with it's third round National Draft pick (53), it's fourth round pick (71) to the Hawks for their round one selection (24), round two selection (46) and round three selection (64)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124995/default.aspx
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I have updated the offical trades thread, we have trade #3.
ADELAIDE forward Jack Gunston has been traded to Hawthorn.
In a deal completed on Wednesday, Adelaide traded Gunston along with it's third round National Draft pick (53), it's fourth round pick (71) to the Hawks for their round one selection (24), round two selection (46) and round three selection (64)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124995/default.aspx
I'm guessing the Hawks weren't going to be use those late picks as live picks in the National draft anyway and only need a couple of late picks whereever for rookie elevations. So for them they got Gunston for pick 24 which is what they were after at te start of the week.
Hopefully now with Adelaide gaining pick 24, there'll be even lesser of a reason for them to argue they need our compo pick for Maric.
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I have updated the offical trades thread, we have trade #3.
ADELAIDE forward Jack Gunston has been traded to Hawthorn.
In a deal completed on Wednesday, Adelaide traded Gunston along with it's third round National Draft pick (53), it's fourth round pick (71) to the Hawks for their round one selection (24), round two selection (46) and round three selection (64)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124995/default.aspx
I'm guessing the Hawks weren't going to be use those late picks as live picks in the National draft anyway and only need a couple of late picks whereever for rookie elevations. So for them they got Gunston for pick 24 which is what they were after at te start of the week.
Hopefully now with Adelaide gaining pick 24, there'll be even lesser of a reason for them to argue they need our compo pick for Maric.
Yep, essentially gave their first round and downgraded their second rounder by 7 picks. Third rounder irrelevant as will be used to upgrade Bruest.
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Just a question for all you gurus and unsure if it has been mentioned, Lovett Murray, (the one who didn't play a game for St Kilda) is he worth a punt?? Unsure if Nathan or Andrew, any upside??
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
I am now trying to Beat myself to death........
Well we are looking at Maric and he is useless so why not
MOL Its Andrew Lovett. Lovett Murray plays for The Bombers. No thanks to Lovett. Nothing but a receiving downhill skier.
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Snip! For legal reasons we can't even in jest talk about a player's non-football/legal issues/past.
Back to the topic...
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So much for being aggressive this year, bunch of limp dicks, there are rucks, defenders, forwards out there and we are in the running for one player. Weak as pee tigers...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567
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So much for being aggressive this year, bunch of limp dicks, there are rucks, defenders, forwards out there and we are in the running for one player. Weak as pee tigers...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567
What would you give up and for who mate?
You honestly think Edwards is going to bring Gillies to Punt Rd. Your kidding yourself. Unless we trade away our first 2 picks and the compo, we are not going to get the names you would want. Clubs have some obscure idea that run of the mill type players are worth first rounders all of a sudden.
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Seen as you are into baseless speculation and rumour
http://www.okmagazine.com/
Get into it WAT
Jen's pregnant!!!!!!!
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Seen as you are into baseless speculation and rumour
http://www.okmagazine.com/
Get into it WAT
Jen's pregnant!!!!!!!
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol This thread is like a copy of women's weekly :lol 10 Flags is on the cover ;D
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Giants wanted Goddard - and still do
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/12/giants-wanted-goddard-and-still-do/
There's also a rumour doing the rounds this arvo on SEN and 3aw that James Hird had lunch with Setanta O'hAilpan.
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barrettdamian Damian Barrett twitter:
"Given SOS admitted on TradeWeekRadio GWS had asked about Goddard as recently as Monday, wonder if picks 2 and 7 would get talks started?"
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barrettdamian Damian Barrett twitter:
"Given SOS admitted on TradeWeekRadio GWS had asked about Goddard as recently as Monday, wonder if picks 2 and 7 would get talks started?"
You'd think Saints could really use there future coach now.
IMO the 2 questions would be. Does he truly believe they can give it one more realistic crack next year. Or do pick up a few young players that they can draft this year with early picks(off GWS) and rebuild and be back at it in 3-5 years.
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There's also a rumour doing the rounds this arvo on SEN and 3aw that James Hird had lunch with Setanta O'hAilpan.
If true way to go Bombers :rollin
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barrettdamian Damian Barrett twitter:
"Given SOS admitted on TradeWeekRadio GWS had asked about Goddard as recently as Monday, wonder if picks 2 and 7 would get talks started?"
You'd think Saints could really use there future coach now.
IMO the 2 questions would be. Does he truly believe they can give it one more realistic crack next year. Or do pick up a few young players that they can draft this year with early picks(off GWS) and rebuild and be back at it in 3-5 years.
Saints window has well and truly gone. They need to go into full rebuild mode and draft as many quality young players as they can or they will be stuffed for the decade. If they could get picks 2 and 7 for Goddard then they should jump at it.
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So much for being aggressive this year, bunch of limp dicks, there are rucks, defenders, forwards out there and we are in the running for one player. Weak as pee tigers...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567
What would you give up and for who mate?
You honestly think Edwards is going to bring Gillies to Punt Rd. Your kidding yourself. Unless we trade away our first 2 picks and the compo, we are not going to get the names you would want. Clubs have some obscure idea that run of the mill type players are worth first rounders all of a sudden.
Have a crack mate, that's what I am saying, let's hear somebloodything in the press about who we are throwing around and trying to get. Let's get involved......everyone rates Edward's on this forum apart from me, let's see what other clubs rate him as, let's see what White, Edwards, Gus, and a few others could get us.
But ffs if the RFC brains come out and say, AS THEY DID that we would be very involved and aggressive during trade period.......stuffing DO IT!!!
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Trade Talk - Day 3
Out-of-contract Saint, Tom Lynch, a first-round draft selection, wants to move to Adelaide, with the Crows and Saints negotiating a deal.
The Saints have not received offers for the likes of Jason Gram, Farren Ray or Zac Dawson, who they put on the trading block earlier this week.
Port Adelaide and West Coast were closer to working out a deal to send Eagle Brad Ebert home to Adelaide.
Hawthorn and Fremantle are understood to be negotiating with Greater Western Sydney to trade for pre-listed player Lee Spur of Central District.
Essendon has fielded interest in rookie-listed ruckman Josh Jenkins, with Gold Coast and Adelaide believed to be most enthusiastic.
Greater Western Sydney has expressed some interest in out-of-contract Western Bulldog Sam Reid.
Hawthorn confirmed it may send Rick Ladson to the Giants.
Bulldog Josh Hill looks almost certain to be traded to West Coast for a late draft pick.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/three-gun-for-saint-tommy-20111012-1ll88.html
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lmao at wanting everything we do to end up in the press.
then we can hear the whining about how we cant anything in house
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So much for being aggressive this year, bunch of limp dicks, there are rucks, defenders, forwards out there and we are in the running for one player. Weak as pee tigers...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-week-everything-you-need-to-know/story-fn69a32t-1226164479567
What would you give up and for who mate?
You honestly think Edwards is going to bring Gillies to Punt Rd. Your kidding yourself. Unless we trade away our first 2 picks and the compo, we are not going to get the names you would want. Clubs have some obscure idea that run of the mill type players are worth first rounders all of a sudden.
Have a crack mate, that's what I am saying, let's hear somebloodything in the press about who we are throwing around and trying to get. Let's get involved......everyone rates Edward's on this forum apart from me, let's see what other clubs rate him as, let's see what White, Edwards, Gus, and a few others could get us.
But ffs if the RFC brains come out and say, AS THEY DID that we would be very involved and aggressive during trade period.......stuffING DO IT!!!
White, Gus and a few others of their ilk wouldn't get us anything, and that's why it hasn't.
Not everyone rates Edwards, I don't, but he has more upside to him then pick 100 in a weak compromised draft.
If a club came out and said "We want Edwards and will give you our first rounder", the club would make the trade, fact is they haven't come out and said that and they wont. Unless he is sought after, your not going to get anything for him and your never going to be satisfied.
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Melbourne is likely to trade Addam Maric to North Melbourne.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125022/default.aspx
Melbourne has also confirmed it is targeting Brisbane Lions big man Mitch Clark.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125029/default.aspx
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Trade No.5
ST KILDA has landed two mature-age players in a deal with Greater Western Sydney.
Terry Milera from SANFL club Port Adelaide and Ahmed Saad from VFL club Northern Bullants will join the Saints after GWS had the rights to them as they had previously nominated for the draft.
In return the Saints have downgraded their draft pick 20 to 25, giving GWS 12 of the first 20 picks at next month's NAB AFL Draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125032/default.aspx
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Trade No.6
Pick 20 from GWS to Fremantle for end-of-first round compensation pick (received for losing Rhys Palmer to Giants).
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Trade No.6
Pick 20 from GWS to Fremantle for end-of-first round compensation pick (received for losing Rhys Palmer to Giants).
That looks like a win to GWS. Not sure why Freo have done this. Would of thought if the compo pick was on the table it would be worth more then pick 20 in this years draft.
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Very strange indeed....
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Trade No.6
Pick 20 from GWS to Fremantle for end-of-first round compensation pick (received for losing Rhys Palmer to Giants).
That looks like a win to GWS. Not sure why Freo have done thing. Would of thought if the compo pick was on the table it would be worth more then pick 20 in this years draft.
It's interesting, if they activate that pick, they will get a pick later than 20.
Just a guess, they probably have their eyes on a certain player and don't think he will be around at a later pick?
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Trade Week Radio:
Crows traded compo picks to GWS and received mini-draft pick 2 (Crouch), as well as Luke Brown from Norwood
GWS receive pick 10 and the compo pick from the Crows (Phil Davis compo pick)
Also....
Bulldog Sam Reid off to GWS for a compensation pick.
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Trade Week Radio:
Crows traded compo picks to GWS and received mini-draft pick 2 (Crouch), as well as Luke Brown from Norwood
GWS receive pick 10 and the compo pick from the Crows (Phil Davis compo pick)
Also....
Bulldog Sam Reid off to GWS for a compensation pick.
Posted it with the link from AFL site in the confirmed trades 2 minutes ago.
I agree with a poster on bf. Im not going to bother with re-typing most of it so heres what they said. lazyness I know lol.
Crouch is worth more than pick 10 but you'd think Davis compo likely turns into another top 10 pick next year. Luke Brown worth between 10-25 range? Adelaide maybe slight winners
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So Luke McGuane and Will Thursfield may get passed to another club after all, and Connors looks to be involved in the Maric deal according to TFT.
No complaints if all come to fruition.
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Shame that we couldnt get Luke Brown.
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So Luke McGuane and Will Thursfield may get passed to another club after all, and Connors looks to be involved in the Maric deal according to TFT.
No complaints if all come to fruition.
Now to work on Graham and White ;D
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MELBOURNE have dropped an AFL trade week bombshell with a massive contract offer to Mitchell Clark in a bid to snare the potential power forward.
Melbourne’s package is believed to be a multi-million dollar deal over four years for Clark.
The deal includes Melbourne’s first round national draft selection at number 12, as well as part of the Demons compensation picks they received in the controversial loss of brilliant second-year sensation Tom Scully to new club Greater Western Sydney.
Fremantle is only willing to part with pick 16, their first selection in this year’s national draft.
The Dockers are understood to considering offering the Lions pick number 20 as well after securing the selection from Greater Western Sydney in the Giants dealing with St Kilda for previously AFL club listed players.
Fremantle could also need to offer an existing player in their deal to win the highly valued Clark as a possible match-winning key forward.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/13/huge-melbourne-package-for-mitch-clark/
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Even Melbourne are getting into it.....
By the way al, I didn't say I wanted everything in the press did I????? Um no.
However look around you mate, really what have we done????
Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
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Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
A players worth is found out by what clubs are offering to give for them. Currently the of the players that aren't in our 22(like White, Nason etc..) are worthless and other clubs have no need or want for them. Telling clubs they are on the trade table won't help drive there price up.
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Even Melbourne are getting into it.....
By the way al, I didn't say I wanted everything in the press did I????? Um no.
However look around you mate, really what have we done????
Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
Mate, they have been thrown around, they are worth nothing!
Melbourne want to give up Pick 12 and one of their compo picks to get Clark (and huge dollars). Would you like to see the Tigers offering Pick 15 and our compo pick? Personally I wouldn't, and I don't think Clark is worth what's being bandied around, would rather us hold those picks and use them on players.
I don't think it's worth getting involved in trades and putting players names up just for the sake of it. Only if it benefits us and the clubs see's that we are winning in the trade deal.
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Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
A players worth is found out by what clubs are offering to give for them. Currently the of the players that aren't in our 22(like White, Nason etc..) are worthless and other clubs have no need or want for them. Telling clubs they are on the trade table won't help drive there price up.
Ok, we wouldn't want to even try it though would we....White was rated and veent mentioned by Aker as being our main running man...so....
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Even Melbourne are getting into it.....
By the way al, I didn't say I wanted everything in the press did I????? Um no.
However look around you mate, really what have we done????
Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
Mate, they have been thrown around, they are worth nothing!
Melbourne want to give up Pick 12 and one of their compo picks to get Clark (and huge dollars). Would you like to see the Tigers offering Pick 15 and our compo pick? Personally I wouldn't, and I don't think Clark is worth what's being bandied around, would rather us hold those picks and use them on players.
I don't think it's worth getting involved in trades and putting players names up just for the sake of it. Only if it benefits us and the clubs see's that we are winning in the trade deal.
Mate you will have tio show me the link where their name have been mentioned, I do agree with your other comments though.
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Melbourne want to give up Pick 12 and one of their compo picks to get Clark (and huge dollars).
With trading like that it would seem that Melbourne think they have a team set up to win a premiership and are just buying there missing piece. A big full forward.
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Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
A players worth is found out by what clubs are offering to give for them. Currently the of the players that aren't in our 22(like White, Nason etc..) are worthless and other clubs have no need or want for them. Telling clubs they are on the trade table won't help drive there price up.
Ok, we wouldn't want to even try it though would we....White was rated and veent mentioned by Aker as being our main running man...so....
Aker doesn't know the difference between his face and a donkeys behind.
Yes I saw he rated Matty White, it's a shame he isn't in control of a clubs draft/trade period. White isn't worth anything.
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Mitch Clarke isnt that good people. Way over valued.
Good luck to Freo would go Ok there but would suck at Melbourne with not as much support.
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The less trades for players the better , we should be aiming to have more draft picks not less.
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Even Melbourne are getting into it.....
By the way al, I didn't say I wanted everything in the press did I????? Um no.
However look around you mate, really what have we done????
Unless the players I named are thrown around how the hell will we know what they are worth???
Mate, they have been thrown around, they are worth nothing!
Melbourne want to give up Pick 12 and one of their compo picks to get Clark (and huge dollars). Would you like to see the Tigers offering Pick 15 and our compo pick? Personally I wouldn't, and I don't think Clark is worth what's being bandied around, would rather us hold those picks and use them on players.
I don't think it's worth getting involved in trades and putting players names up just for the sake of it. Only if it benefits us and the clubs see's that we are winning in the trade deal.
Mate you will have tio show me the link where their name have been mentioned, I do agree with your other comments though.
If you haven't seen names in articles, it does NOT mean the RFC has labelled these players as untouchable.
It is a delicate process, you can go to the media with the list of every player you feel as dispensable at your club. It batters morale amongst the playing group (of which ours seems to be quite good at the moment) and worst case scenario you end up with a 'Brisbane/Bradshaw' situation where the player walks for nothing.
The club would prepare a list of players they are willing to let go, they meet on the Monday and show other clubs the list, and other clubs then decide if they like any of these players and talks start. If your list has poo players on there, they wont get traded.
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Melbourne are trying to top up it seems.
It seems they feel that they have a side that can challenge if the rumours about Mitch Clark have substance. If they feel that with Neeld, Craig and Schwab holding the reins they are in that position good luck to them. Personally 47 years of poor on field performances can't be wiped away by some panic buying and a first year coach.
As for us we clearly recognise we are in a rebuild mode that may still have 2 possibly 3 years to run.
At the right price we will look at all offers but not try to land a big fish merely because they are there and regardless of the cost. Our picks are sacrasanct and if we can upgrade on trades player for player or upgrade on picks then right now that is the go.
We need to establish a firm core and then we can top up with these Mitch Clark type players who will cost plenty ie next year when free trade is in play so that we can have the salary cap space to negotiate with these players or when we have established ourselves as a genuine finals side who are looking to find the missing link that will take them to premiership glory. Would rather land a big fish or some big fishies next year rather than pay overs for someone now merely b/c they are available and merely b/c some are impatient and want us to win the flag next year which realistically is beyond us.
I would rather give the club the chance to go for the flag 2014 onwards with the efforts the off field people at the club and the strides they have made in our finances etc. I can understand peoples impatience I too am a mid 30 something life long fan but before we are ready to burn the place down lets just keep what we have and work out what we need rather than spend spend spend in a state of hysteria panic and fear in order to create an illusion of false hope grandeur and glory.
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As for us we clearly recognise we are in a rebuild mode that may still have 2 possibly 3 years to run.
At the right price we will look at all offers but not try to land a big fish merely because they are there and regardless of the cost. Our picks are sacrasanct and if we can upgrade on trades player for player or upgrade on picks then right now that is the go.
We need to establish a firm core and then we can top up with these Mitch Clark type players who will cost plenty ie next year when free trade is in play so that we can have the salary cap space to negotiate with these players or when we have established ourselves as a genuine finals side who are looking to find the missing link that will take them to premiership glory. Would rather land a big fish or some big fishies next year rather than pay overs for someone now merely b/c they are available and merely b/c some are impatient and want us to win the flag next year which realistically is beyond us.
I would rather give the club the chance to go for the flag 2014 onwards with the efforts the off field people at the club and the strides they have made in our finances etc. I can understand peoples impatience I too am a mid 30 something life long fan but before we are ready to burn the place down lets just keep what we have and work out what we need rather than spend spend spend in a state of hysteria panic and fear in order to create an illusion of false hope grandeur and glory.
I agree with this. At this current time of our rebuilding process 2 solid good players are worth more to us then 1 great/very good player. So I would rather keep our first round and compo then trade them for someone like Clark.
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Pretty much agree T-Bag.
Weed out the duds through smart upgrades and add to the list with solid drafting. Forge them into a competive hungry unit through hard work and some finals campaigns. Then add the missing pieces through Free Agency and smash out a couple of flags.
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Clark's manager Colin Young says he is confident Mitch Clarke will still get to Fremantle despite bid from Melbourne.
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Clark's manager Colin Young says he is confident Mitch Clarke will still get to Fremantle despite bid from Melbourne.
Ducks and drakes and smokescreens.
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Smoke and shadows behind the windows
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freo will cave and give pick 16 and 20 - bris should take it.
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Barrett just said we are waiting to get the Maric trade out the way before hunting for a backman.
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Barrett just said we are waiting to get the Maric trade out the way before hunting for a backman.
Hopefully adelaide stop playing this hard ball crap and come to the realisation that Maric is no super star and accept whatever we offer :lol
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Was just listening to Triple M in the car on the way home. Apparently Bulldogs offered pick 39 for Bate and Melfail declined and asked for a first rounder... Even Brownless said "get your hand off it" lol. Melbourne also said during the $cully crap they wouldn't mess their list an chuck money at blokes yet they are being pretty hypocritical at the moment. Brownless was saying down the road at the Cattery that after Ablett the next highest paid bloke was on just over $500k. How the hell can Melpoo justify their offer?
I really hate Melbourne. Seriously, they're about to overtake the cold pies on my hitlist.
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We're up to 90 pages of crap so far....
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Trade No.6
Pick 20 from GWS to Fremantle for end-of-first round compensation pick (received for losing Rhys Palmer to Giants).
That looks like a win to GWS. Not sure why Freo have done thing. Would of thought if the compo pick was on the table it would be worth more then pick 20 in this years draft.
It's interesting, if they activate that pick, they will get a pick later than 20.
Just a guess, they probably have their eyes on a certain player and don't think he will be around at a later pick?
Freo will hope picks 16 & 20 appeases Brisbane. I would want a top 10 pick at least if I was the Lions. In a compromised draft there's no guarantee you'll get two young guns at 16 & 20. A bit like us with Ottens when we accepted two late first rounders :P.
GWS on the other hand will want to stockpile as many compo picks they can get their hands on just as the Suns did last year. It'll then allow them to have a stack of early picks in waiting for future drafts on top of having 11 of the first 14 picks in this year's draft.
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AS far as Brisbane is concerned, Melbourne is clearly winning the race to snare the services of Mitch Clark.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/13/melbourne-lead-race-for-clark-say-lions/
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GWS on the other hand will want to stockpile as many compo picks they can get their hands on just as the Suns did last year. It'll then allow them to have a stack of early picks in waiting for future drafts on top of having 11 of the first 14 picks in this year's draft.
Its just ridiculous they've already been warned about there trading not being in the spirit of the game.
I hope they get a phone call from AFL house and told to trade some of the picks for at least some what of a marquee player.
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GWS on the other hand will want to stockpile as many compo picks they can get their hands on just as the Suns did last year. It'll then allow them to have a stack of early picks in waiting for future drafts on top of having 11 of the first 14 picks in this year's draft.
Its just ridiculous they've already been warned about there trading not being in the spirit of the game.
I hope they get a phone call from AFL house and told to trade some of the picks for at least some what of a marquee player.
In recent times the AFL has had the first 10 picks done in reverse order for the media. I dont think the AFL is gonna be impressed with whats happening atm. Theyve turned it into a farce.
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freo will cave and give pick 16 and 20 - bris should take it.
I reckon Brissy are thinking compensation pick and pick 12 for Clark and are hoping Mitch says stuff Perth I'm going to Melbourne.
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freo will cave and give pick 16 and 20 - bris should take it.
I reckon Brissy are thinking compensation pick and pick 12 for Clark and are hoping Mitch says stuff Perth I'm going to Melbourne.
The big question falls to Clark can he hold off from moving back to Perth for a few years and cash in on demons big money offer.
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Trade talk - Day 4
* Mitch Clark (Brisbane Lions) Huge Melbourne offer (4 years, $2.2m) tempting, but Fremantle still frontrunner.
* Brent Macaffer (Collingwood) Not offered a contract and will leave the club via trade week or national draft.
* Addam Maric (Melbourne) Almost certain to get to North Melbourne, his preferred destination.
* Mark Blake (Geelong) Has met with one potential suitor, but future remains unclear.
* Matthew Bate (Melbourne) Dogs offered pick 39, which was rejected. Bate keen on Whitten Oval.
* Rick Ladson (Hawthorn) Outside chance to go to GWS.
* Josh Hill (Western Bulldogs) West Coast still keen.
* Ben Hudson (Western Bulldogs) Brisbane Lions still in the frame.
* Adelaide is now targeting Hawthorn ruckman Brent Renouf, who had been linked with a shift to Port Adelaide.
* The Power, which will gain the services of out-of-contract West Coast midfielder Brad Ebert before Monday's trade deadline, is leaning to former West Coast and current Swans ruckman Mark Seaby ahead of Brent Renouf.
* Hawthorn has strengthened its resolve to recruit Geelong back-up defender Tom Gillies due to the uncertain future of Hawks premiership defender Stephen Gilham, who has a degenerative knee condition. But Gillies is contracted to the Cats, who have been reluctant to strike a trade deal.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-big-man-mitch-clark-in-line-for-3m-payday/story-fn69a32t-1226166306148
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/melbourne-demons-leading-race-for-mitch-clark/story-e6frg7mf-1226166215912
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DeepThroat still trying to convince BF he's in the know. Too bad he obviously missed seeing RFCO say earlier that we had no interest in McLean :wallywink.
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"Sorry for my absence, I've been very busy with other personal things.
1stly my mail on Ivan Maric being done by lunch time was incorrect and i take that, my source tells me it was all but done. But the Super deal that was scuttled by the AFL threw everything out of whack and sent crows back to the drawing board. But it was wrong and that's that.
2ndly
I'm told it will happen tomorrow but I'm not going to promise.
3rdly
Luke macguane will end up at either Suns or Lions
4thly
Thursfeild has had interest from Carlton & Sydney
5th
Goddard is almost done, 2 top in 10 picks and maybe picks 20
6) If Goddard does not happen Foley is the next target pick 5 & 14 has been floated, foley has had a contract extention put to him a few weeks ago and has not been willing to sign at the surprise of RFC, fearing he has already been approached by GWS.
It's what I've been told so don't shoot the messenger, I like foley.
7) our efforts to secure Tim Mhor has failed.
8 ) solapeck & dan Stewart are still targets
9) there is a mid feilder we working on, Lucas & Stevens are still being considered the 2.
10) I'm also told that we are waiting till Monday ready to swoop on any deal that may fail with other clubs and players that clubs might need to offload cheaply just to releave cap pressure, but the club has a strict criteria on what type of player we take.
11) brock maclean has been put to us with the blues 1st pick in exchange for our 5th rounder or player with a low salary ie Connors or white, conditional we pick up his salary. We have declined there offer but would consider it if they got there pick under 20 or offered Lucas with him.ie Lucas & maclean for our pick 55 & player."
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"Fair Call I can also tell you that Luke and or Connors with pick 37 might get deal done tomorrow. "
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22591559&postcount=572
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Problem with any McGaune deal is that he is on 450k a year. If deal gets done..it means there is more than one stupid AFL club in the comp.
Seems as though the Hawks know how to work trade week..most other clubs are all talk
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Foley for pick 5 and 14??????? :lol
This guy is FOS
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Foley for pick 5 and 14??????? :lol
This guy is FOS
yeah but you have to admit he is entertaining early in the week when nothings happening lol.
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Foley for pick 5 and 14??????? :lol
This guy is FOS
yeah but you have to admit he is entertaining early in the week when nothings happening lol.
Imagine if that happened, Pick 5 and 14! Surely the AFL would get involved and say it is not within the spirit of the rules :rollin
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Need to trade back in to the second round - it's gotta be through the McGuane deal or it's a bust.
Wouldn't mind getting Macaffer to walk to us in the PSD.
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Need to trade back in to the second round - it's gotta be through the McGuane deal or it's a bust.
Wouldn't mind getting Macaffer to walk to us in the PSD.
Macaffer is a very solid player, better choice then Toovey and a PSD pick on him would be a good move.
I agree, McGuane and our 3rd/4th rounder to snare Brisbanes 2nd Rounder.
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McGuane for Brisbanes 3rd rounder would be good.
If Brissy get a couple early picks for Clark they probably won't even use the 3rd rounder.
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Fevola!
:moi
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Problem with any McGaune deal is that he is on 450k a year. If deal gets done..it means there is more than one stupid AFL club in the comp.
Seems as though the Hawks know how to work trade week..most other clubs are all talk
Pull u up again. He really isn't on that much in the last year of this contract. It was front-loaded. But keep potting. I get a good laugh as do many others :lol
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Trade No.9
Will Sierakowski from Hawthorn to North Melbourne for pick 58
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Fevola!
:moi
Word is one Melbourne club is planning to pick up Fev as a mature rookie.
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Trade No.9
Will Sierakowski from Hawthorn to North Melbourne for pick 58
Who? Surely McGuane is worth a pick in the 30s.
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Trade No.9
Will Sierakowski from Hawthorn to North Melbourne for pick 58
Who? Surely McGuane is worth a pick in the 30s.
Get it done Gerks.......You can do it...........
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In talks with Collingwood, once we lock in Maric we'll be hoping to trade Graham for Macaffer.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22594776&postcount=1
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I have only seen bits and pieces of McCaffer. What's his best possie?
Can he play inside? As in could he be an upgrade on Jaco/Tuck.
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In talks with Collingwood, once we lock in Maric we'll be hoping to trade Graham for Macaffer.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22594776&postcount=1
BANG......The Beefcake is being tossed from the Griller into the fire :lol :lol
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Brisbane has apparently rejected Freo's offer of picks 16 & 20 for Mitch Clark.
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Seaby to remain a Swan at this stage as Port aren't that happy with the medical he had with them.
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In talks with Collingwood, once we lock in Maric we'll be hoping to trade Graham for Macaffer.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22594776&postcount=1
I am crying happy tears.... couldn't possibly happen.
Go all in PIES!
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Is Macaffer out of contract? If he is should try and get him into the PSD put a high price on him so no other club touches him.
By the way I can't seeing collingwood wanting Graham.
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Lewis Johnston is heading to Adelaide to be medically checked. Deal as it stands would be for Armstrong & 35, but the Swans want a bit more.
Source: Emma Quayle twitter.
I haven't checked but on twitter they are saying if Johnston leaves the Swans it'll mean they have only got 31 games out of their past 6 first rounder picks :o.
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Lewis Johnston is heading to Adelaide to be medically checked. Deal as it stands would be for Armstrong & 35, but the Swans want a bit more.
Source: Emma Quayle twitter.
I haven't checked but on twitter they are saying if Johnston leaves the Swans it'll mean they have only got 31 games out of their past 6 first rounder picks :o.
That's an appalling strike rate. Though Rohan will be good and only just started playing. Jetta i dont rate. Lamb will get a chance eventually.
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Is Macaffer out of contract? If he is should try and get him into the PSD put a high price on him so no other club touches him.
By the way I can't seeing collingwood wanting Graham.
I believe Macaffer is out of contract tiger101. I can't see the Pies wanting Graham either. They've already got one poor ruckman in Wood.
If we have given up pick 37 for Maric then we can only do player-player trades now with our first round and compo picks off the table and our next pick at 55 (unless we changed tact and chased a big fish).
The only trade I could see happen would be something like McGuane to Bris, Bris mid-late pick to Pies, Macaffer to us. Nothing to get excited about though. I'm not overtly keen on changing top club's fringe players whose deficiencies can be protected to some degree by the guns around them.
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Mitch Clark's manager just said Clark has told him about an hour ago that he looked at the Melbourne offer but still wants to go to Freo.
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Problem with any McGaune deal is that he is on 450k a year. If deal gets done..it means there is more than one stupid AFL club in the comp.
Seems as though the Hawks know how to work trade week..most other clubs are all talk
It would be worth paying part of McGuane's salary next year if it means we can offload him. Better off paying $150-200k at another club than $450k keeping him as a list clogger at Coburg.
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He's not on $450k LMFAO and tickle my pickle
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He's not on $450k LMFAO and tickle my pickle
Correct. He had a front loaded contract that didnt equal 450k per year.
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Incorrect, both of you :banghead
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Incorrect, both of you :banghead
is that fact?
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GWS on the other hand will want to stockpile as many compo picks they can get their hands on just as the Suns did last year. It'll then allow them to have a stack of early picks in waiting for future drafts on top of having 11 of the first 14 picks in this year's draft.
Its just ridiculous they've already been warned about there trading not being in the spirit of the game.
I hope they get a phone call from AFL house and told to trade some of the picks for at least some what of a marquee player.
In recent times the AFL has had the first 10 picks done in reverse order for the media. I dont think the AFL is gonna be impressed with whats happening atm. Theyve turned it into a farce.
The AFL know in 5-10-20-30 years time people will forget about the 2010-11 compromised drafts and GWS and GC printing draft picks out of thin air etc and they will only judge the worthiness of the expansion clubs by their success on and off-field in promoting the game as a whole in what is now RL territory.
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The Melbourne based club who have spoken to Fevola is....................
NORTH :shh
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The Melbourne based club who have spoken to Fevola is....................
NORTH :shh
lol.....I hope so :pray My tip is, Fev will be involved in a whole new chicken Sarga :lol :lol :lol
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been told he has had discussions with Pies/Bombers/ mmmmmmmmmm
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I can't see Bucks putting up with Fev's antics and Jimmy wasn't too pleased with Fev at that Brownlow night which got Fev the sack from Carlton.
The Melbourne based club who have spoken to Fevola is....................
NORTH :shh
If true I hear the phrase 'desperate topping up to attempt to makr the finals after back-to-back ninths' :yep
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been told he has had discussions with Pies/Bombers/ mmmmmmmmmm
Will be at Essendon next year via a mature age rookie pick.
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been told he has had discussions with Pies/Bombers/ mmmmmmmmmm
Will be at Essendon next year via a mature age rookie pick.
sauce?
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been told he has had discussions with Pies/Bombers/ mmmmmmmmmm
Will be at Essendon next year via a mature age rookie pick.
sauce?
With that sort of prediciton I'd say generic home brand
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I can't see Bucks putting up with Fev's antics and Jimmy wasn't too pleased with Fev at that Brownlow night which got Fev the sack from Carlton.
The Melbourne based club who have spoken to Fevola is....................
NORTH :shh
If true I hear the phrase 'desperate topping up to attempt to makr the finals after back-to-back ninths' :yep
Was interesting the difference between the way hird handled fev and fev's captain that night. Judd was nearly running to get away from him.
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Melcrap and Bummers are the only Melboure clubs looking for a big forward aren't they? At first I thought it might of been Melb, with Clarke pending, but when I joked around with the boss this arvo who is a Bummer said he heard 6 weeks ago that his lot were 'interested.'
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Clark has said via the Freo media dept ;D that he has knocked back Melcraps offer and he wants to go to the Dockers :rollin
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I can't see Bucks putting up with Fev's antics and Jimmy wasn't too pleased with Fev at that Brownlow night which got Fev the sack from Carlton.
The Melbourne based club who have spoken to Fevola is....................
NORTH :shh
If true I hear the phrase 'desperate topping up to attempt to makr the finals after back-to-back ninths' :yep
And if not true, may the good lord point them straight and true at a 2012 '9th' threepeat.
Dyer 3:16:- And on the third year straight, lord Dyer proclaimed the mantle be passed to 'Ninth Melbourne' . And so it was to be known.
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Clark has said via the Freo media dept ;D that he has knocked back Melcraps offer and he wants to go to the Dockers :rollin
Goes to show no matter how much money they offer. No one with a promising career wants to end up or play(scully) at demons.
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Righto, now we have a number 1 ruckman... :whistle :whistle ::), we need a decent back man and we need to offload our crap for picks....go to it Tiges!!
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:lol
Thats the spirit WAT.
Roll them sleeves up and get to work! :thumbsup
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:lol
Thats the spirit WAT.
Roll them sleeves up and get to work! :thumbsup
:lol :thumbsup
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ESSENDON is believed to have launched a bid to lure Gold Coast midfielder Josh Caddy back to his home state.
The Bombers hope to trade for the Brisbane Lions' end of round one compensation pick, received last year for the loss of Michael Rischitelli to the Suns.
They would then offer that selection, plus their first round pick (No. 19) in the 2011 NAB AFL Draft, to Gold Coast in exchange for Caddy.
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=125132
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Well you've got me hooked OE.
What the hell do the Bombers offer the Lions to get an end of first compo pick that the Lions got for losing their B&F winner?
Tell 'em their dreamin'
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i think they on traded that to GC last year?
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If we can pick up another backman, decent size, maybe a couple more picks for Morton, McGuane, Connors and Edwards I think we would have completed a satisfactory trade week.
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Just going on the report from OE that it's a Lions compo pick.
Got to remember that Lions got two compo picks - one for Rischitelli and the other for Brennan in the unknown second player rule, same as Bullies and Ward/Reid this year.
I do recall something about Lions trading a compo and their pick 10 to get pick 5 last year but think they've still got one.
Geez our compo pick is getting less and less valuable for the 2012 "superdraft".
"satisfactory" - you're a hard marker WAT. ;D Ruckman, backman, mature age Morris and a couple of picks I'd say we smashed it out of the park.
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"satisfactory" - you're a hard marker WAT. ;D Ruckman, backman, mature age Morris and a couple of picks I'd say we smashed it out of the park.
:thumbsup :shh, don't tell the others I AM ONLY PLAYING, mate if we pull that off I agree with you....out of the park!!!!
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If we can pick up another backman, decent size, maybe a couple more picks for Morton, McGuane, Connors and Edwards I think we would have completed a satisfactory trade week.
Edwards wont happen.
Morton, McGuane and Connors are a chance to go if we can convince someone to take them.
Craig Cameron has come out and said it will be difficult to lock in a defender this year because any worth taking are contracted. I agree though, defender is the thing we need now, maybe we can get a mature ager through GWS (if we have our eye on one) or if we get desperate Toovey through the PSD (I dont rate him though and others seem to purely because he is from Collingwood).
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If we can pick up another backman, decent size, maybe a couple more picks for Morton, McGuane, Connors and Edwards I think we would have completed a satisfactory trade week.
Edwards wont happen.
Morton, McGuane and Connors are a chance to go if we can convince someone to take them.
Craig Cameron has come out and said it will be difficult to lock in a defender this year because any worth taking are contracted. I agree though, defender is the thing we need now, maybe we can get a mature ager through GWS (if we have our eye on one) or if we get desperate Toovey through the PSD (I dont rate him though and others seem to purely because he is from Collingwood).
Yep agree about Edwards, unfortunate because I thought we could of gained a decent pick for him. Just goes to show that he really is crap....no takers.
I would take Toovey, Collingwood are not very keen to let him go and were furious with his management team for the comments made. I think Toovey has something to offer and I would be happy to give him a go. If we could get a muture ager through the draft, well that may suffice as well.
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If we can pick up another backman, decent size, maybe a couple more picks for Morton, McGuane, Connors and Edwards I think we would have completed a satisfactory trade week.
Edwards wont happen.
Morton, McGuane and Connors are a chance to go if we can convince someone to take them.
Craig Cameron has come out and said it will be difficult to lock in a defender this year because any worth taking are contracted. I agree though, defender is the thing we need now, maybe we can get a mature ager through GWS (if we have our eye on one) or if we get desperate Toovey through the PSD (I dont rate him though and others seem to purely because he is from Collingwood).
Yep agree about Edwards, unfortunate because I thought we could of gained a decent pick for him. Just goes to show that he really is crap....no takers.
I would take Toovey, Collingwood are not very keen to let him go and were furious with his management team for the comments made. I think Toovey has something to offer and I would be happy to give him a go. If we could get a muture ager through the draft, well that may suffice as well.
Haha, I don't think there are no takers on Edwards, I think the club has not put him on the table :thumbsup
Toovey is an average solid footballer who would look plenty worse in a struggling side. Those around him make him look much better than what he is. Out of him and Macaffer, you would take Macaffer. Toovey being a backman probably works in his favour a little in terms of interest from clubs.
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I'd prefer Goldsack over Toooovveeeeeeyyyyy. But that's probably just me.
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If we can pick up another backman, decent size, maybe a couple more picks for Morton, McGuane, Connors and Edwards I think we would have completed a satisfactory trade week.
Edwards wont happen.
Morton, McGuane and Connors are a chance to go if we can convince someone to take them.
Craig Cameron has come out and said it will be difficult to lock in a defender this year because any worth taking are contracted. I agree though, defender is the thing we need now, maybe we can get a mature ager through GWS (if we have our eye on one) or if we get desperate Toovey through the PSD (I dont rate him though and others seem to purely because he is from Collingwood).
Yep agree about Edwards, unfortunate because I thought we could of gained a decent pick for him. Just goes to show that he really is crap....no takers.
I would take Toovey, Collingwood are not very keen to let him go and were furious with his management team for the comments made. I think Toovey has something to offer and I would be happy to give him a go. If we could get a muture ager through the draft, well that may suffice as well.
Haha, I don't think there are no takers on Edwards, I think the club has not put him on the table :thumbsup
Toovey is an average solid footballer who would look plenty worse in a struggling side. Those around him make him look much better than what he is. Out of him and Macaffer, you would take Macaffer. Toovey being a backman probably works in his favour a little in terms of interest from clubs.
Yeah I don't think they put him up either, for some stupid reason they think he can play, hey who know's they might play him in a different role next year and he may perform.....like bus driver to the games... :lol. No, I would like to see him tried in the forward line, but actually left there for half a dozen games. he is too week bodied to play out of the backline and he is not evasive enough to play the set maker from the backline either..IMO.
Yes there are not too many backmen available in this trade week or in during trade weeks for that matter.
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I can't see Bucks putting up with Fev's antics and Jimmy wasn't too pleased with Fev at that Brownlow night which got Fev the sack from Carlton.
The Melbourne based club who have spoken to Fevola is....................
NORTH :shh
If true I hear the phrase 'desperate topping up to attempt to makr the finals after back-to-back ninths' :yep
And if not true, may the good lord point them straight and true at a 2012 '9th' threepeat.
Dyer 3:16:- And on the third year straight, lord Dyer proclaimed the mantle be passed to 'Ninth Melbourne' . And so it was to be known.
Hallelujah! :pray
:lol
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Edit: So far Essendon, Bulldogs, Dees, Hawks and Saints have declared no interest in Fev. So that leaves 4 other Melbourne clubs.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10469342/bulldogs-wont-revive-fevolas-afl-career/
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Edit: So far Essendon, Bulldogs, Dees, Hawks and Saints have declared no interest in Fev. So that leaves 4 other Melbourne clubs.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10469342/bulldogs-wont-revive-fevolas-afl-career/
Apart from Jeannie Pratt, no one at Carlton wants Fev back so that leaves 3 - Pies, North and us - and I don't see us wanting Fev either with Jack and Vickery kicking 100 goals between them, Griffiths in wings and of course our own old temporary mature rookie forward in Miller lol.
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Well you've got me hooked OE.
What the hell do the Bombers offer the Lions to get an end of first compo pick that the Lions got for losing their B&F winner?
Tell 'em their dreamin'
Well according to deluded Bomber fans they can send 2-3 of their duds to Brisbane and get the compo pick :wallywink.
I wonder if Paddy Ryder is somewhere in the equation although Brisbane are chasing Tippett and you would think they need their compo pick for that.
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Edit: So far Essendon, Bulldogs, Dees, Hawks and Saints have declared no interest in Fev. So that leaves 4 other Melbourne clubs.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10469342/bulldogs-wont-revive-fevolas-afl-career/
Apart from Jeannie Pratt, no one at Carlton wants Fev back so that leaves 3 - Pies, North and us - and I don't see us wanting Fev either with Jack and Vickery kicking 100 goals between them, Griffiths in wings and of course our own old temporary mature rookie forward in Miller lol.
Also on One Week at a Time i think it was, just before the end of the home and away season when Dimma was on, they put the question to him and he said it was a very different situation with Cousins and the club has changed. He also clearly stated "not at our club." I think it's a no brained anyway as we have our own Coleman medalist, emerging big forwards, not to mention he doesn't even fit the MO. Confident we haven't even looked in Fev's general direction.
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Be interesting to see if any deals get done over the weekend.
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Edit: So far Essendon, Bulldogs, Dees, Hawks and Saints have declared no interest in Fev. So that leaves 4 other Melbourne clubs.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10469342/bulldogs-wont-revive-fevolas-afl-career/
Apart from Jeannie Pratt, no one at Carlton wants Fev back so that leaves 3 - Pies, North and us - and I don't see us wanting Fev either with Jack and Vickery kicking 100 goals between them, Griffiths in wings and of course our own old temporary mature rookie forward in Miller lol.
Also on One Week at a Time i think it was, just before the end of the home and away season when Dimma was on, they put the question to him and he said it was a very different situation with Cousins and the club has changed. He also clearly stated "not at our club." I think it's a no brained anyway as we have our own Coleman medalist, emerging big forwards, not to mention he doesn't even fit the MO. Confident we haven't even looked in Fev's general direction.
Good memory dwaino. So it's down to either the Pies or North. Not sure why the Pies we go with Fev when they have just re-signed Dawes to play alongside Cloke. So it's top-up Naught Melbourne as Tucky would say as favourite IMO.
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Edit: So far Essendon, Bulldogs, Dees, Hawks and Saints have declared no interest in Fev. So that leaves 4 other Melbourne clubs.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/10469342/bulldogs-wont-revive-fevolas-afl-career/
Apart from Jeannie Pratt, no one at Carlton wants Fev back so that leaves 3 - Pies, North and us - and I don't see us wanting Fev either with Jack and Vickery kicking 100 goals between them, Griffiths in wings and of course our own old temporary mature rookie forward in Miller lol.
Also on One Week at a Time i think it was, just before the end of the home and away season when Dimma was on, they put the question to him and he said it was a very different situation with Cousins and the club has changed. He also clearly stated "not at our club." I think it's a no brained anyway as we have our own Coleman medalist, emerging big forwards, not to mention he doesn't even fit the MO. Confident we haven't even looked in Fev's general direction.
Good memory dwaino. So it's down to either the Pies or North. Not sure why the Pies we go with Fev when they have just re-signed Dawes to play alongside Cloke. So it's top-up Naught Melbourne as Tucky would say as favourite IMO.
Yep Naught are going for a desperate attempt to increase their membership base albeit briefly from 5 to about 12 so that Brayshaw and co can say they have had the biggest increase in membership ever recorded and to have one last crack at finals and maybe give Brent Harvey Michael Firrito and Drew Petrie one last chance to get beaten by a top 4 side by 15 goals as they did in the 2007 finals before they go into oblivion.
I hope they finish ninth again and they can be called Ninth Melbourne as someone has already mentioned before they fall down the ladder further and be referred to again as Naught Melbourne.
Alot of absolute terrible clubs none more so than Naught, St Kilda and Melbfail. :lol :rollin :lol
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Dooks called Fev to Norf a while back
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Dooks called Fev to Norf a while back
Yes, other members seem to be a bit slow on the uptake today :P :huh
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FFS Jackstar was right, Bate is a gun
Melbourne has rejected the Bulldogs' offer of pick 39 for forward Matthew Bate. The Demons have asked for a first-round pick, a demand the Bulldogs believe is excessive. Bate is contracted for next year.
FFS Dees, get a clue
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Stick to the topic ppl in this and other threads and leave all the other "stuff" ::) to PMs. Other posters don't want to wade through it.
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THE Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne, Melbourne and Essendon have ruled out giving fallen Coleman medallist Brendan Fevola a third AFL home.
A Kangaroos spokeswoman said North Melbourne was ''definitely not'' the club.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-deny-fev-interest-20111014-1lpb9.html#ixzz1amGtk1eY
So that leaves Collingwood then?
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FFS Jackstar was right, Bate is a gun
Melbourne has rejected the Bulldogs' offer of pick 39 for forward Matthew Bate. The Demons have asked for a first-round pick, a demand the Bulldogs believe is excessive. Bate is contracted for next year.
FFS Dees, get a clue
Think you should get a clue, he can play and is better than half the duds on our list.
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THE Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne, Melbourne and Essendon have ruled out giving fallen Coleman medallist Brendan Fevola a third AFL home.
A Kangaroos spokeswoman said North Melbourne was ''definitely not'' the club.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-deny-fev-interest-20111014-1lpb9.html#ixzz1amGtk1eY
So that leaves Collingwood then?
And us?
I smell a Cousin's style backflip coming and I like it!
Why wouldn't you through Fev on the rookie list. It is a wasted spot anyway and Fev would be insurance if a key forward went down. He would certainly be a lot better value than Westhoff or Miller.
Plus he would give us a spike in membership.
If he stuffs up of the field then cut him loose, anyone who says that stuff effects other players in condoning individuals who are mentally weak.
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from what i hear the tigers are def thinking about fev :shh
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as good as fev was in a past life..i can imagine the potential problems we might get ,not just off field but on field also..with maybe noses getting out of joint with jack,tyrone ,and later ben...i can see a roach/taylor scenario happening here
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I think if Miller calls it quits he will defiantly be on our radar ;)
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Plus he would give us a spike in membership.
I agree he would in a DOWNWARD spike ;D
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FFS Jackstar was right, Bate is a gun
Melbourne has rejected the Bulldogs' offer of pick 39 for forward Matthew Bate. The Demons have asked for a first-round pick, a demand the Bulldogs believe is excessive. Bate is contracted for next year.
FFS Dees, get a clue
Think you should get a clue, he can play and is better than half the duds on our list.
Just winding you up slackjaw ;)
He's slower than a three-wheeled shopping trolley
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FFS Jackstar was right, Bate is a gun
Melbourne has rejected the Bulldogs' offer of pick 39 for forward Matthew Bate. The Demons have asked for a first-round pick, a demand the Bulldogs believe is excessive. Bate is contracted for next year.
FFS Dees, get a clue
Think you should get a clue, he can play and is better than half the duds on our list.
The only players he is better then are the ones that are list cloggers who need to go.
What does that say?
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Says that JJ is a nuffer who is only interested in talking up himself and bagging the club.
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Says that JJ is a nuffer who is only interested in talking up himself and bagging the club.
we know who the nuffers are, they faceless that hide behind the keyboards.
signed
JJ
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Yep and you're a hero. go tell Adam Pattison, Angus Graham Jay Schulz etc that you've been bagging them out for years on an internet forum. repeat some of the poo you've said about them to their face
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Yep and you're a hero. go tell Adam Pattison, Angus Graham Jay Schulz etc that you've been bagging them out for years on an internet forum. repeat some of the poo you've said about them to their face
I've met Patto a few times, he's a massive softy. Doesn't mind a dart or tow either ;D
Schulz I used to see on a weekly basis when I was working in Camberwell at a pub, used to come in with his manager all the time and have a few games of pool, Schulz was ok but his manager thought he was a Rockstar lol, gave me his card and said he could get me into any games at the G for free, entry into the rooms and free signed merchandise, never took him up on his offer because of work. :'(
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Spewing! wasn't pickering his manager?
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Spewing! wasn't pickering his manager?
No idea, but I still have the guys card in my wallet (Don't ask why lol I've had it for like 2 years) the name on the card is
Rod Goullet
Managing Director
With his business number and personal number on it.
No idea who he is, probably not his manager then if his manager was Pickering, maybe a close friend or family? But the guy always came in dressed in a suit etc looking very professional.
Schulz rode a motor bike as well, looked very expensive from the looks of it to.
I've also met Polak and King at the same place, they came in together with Schulz we had a live band competition going etc they stayed for some music played a few games of pool going unnoticed (I got all giddy when saw the Push Up ;D) Polak got absolutely smashed that night, King and Schulz didn't have much.
Interestingly Polak almost got hit for a second time by a tram, as they were leaving Polak was trying to cross the road with Kingy being the responsible one, anyway a tram was coming down Polak in his drunken state didn't see it and Kingy was trying to get him off the road, luckily King got him off in time as the Tram was very very close to hitting him for a second time.
I've also met Jarrad Waite and a few other Carlton rookies before, they used to frequent Club Retro on a Saturday Night, Waite is a massive tosser, always made him go to the back of the line when he walked up to try and get in for free. :police:
Not letting in any Carlscum on my watch. :lol
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:lol love your work mate. imagine the headlines, 'polak hit by another tram'..
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Yep and you're a hero. go tell Adam Pattison, Angus Graham Jay Schulz etc that you've been bagging them out for years on an internet forum. repeat some of the poo you've said about them to their face
the 3 of them combined would battle with wet tissue paper, please.
patto is clown
Angus is a dead set wanker
Schulz is a nuffer.
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Yep and you're a hero. go tell Adam Pattison, Angus Graham Jay Schulz etc that you've been bagging them out for years on an internet forum. repeat some of the poo you've said about them to their face
the 3 of them combined would battle with wet tissue paper, please.
patto is clown
Angus is a dead set wanker
Schulz is a nuffer.
He told u to say it to their face not anonymously on the internet. :lol
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Funny calling others internet heroes hiding behind their keyboards because they post something about a person who will actually read the post and have a right of reply.
The real irony is, when you consider that these posts are made in reply to posts bagging people that will not read or have a right of reply.
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From the Nick's Collingwood forum:
"Heard Caff might be going to Richmond for Angus Graham plus Pick"
http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/posting.php?mode=quote&p=1162094
Brisbane is interested in snaring out-of-favour Hawthorn big man Jordan Lisle.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/15/brisbane-interested-in-jordan-lisle/
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:lol
they read it on BF
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what are you doing on a collingwood forum any way?
hope you had a wash, you and your monitor?
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what are you doing on a collingwood forum any way?
hope you had a wash, you and your monitor?
no cesspit too vile for OER to go looking for rfc news, what a trooper :clapping
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Brendan Fevola's management is standing by their assertion that at least one Melbourne-based AFL club has shown interest in the fallen star forward, despite club denials.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/genuine-afl-interest-for-brendan-fevola-manager/story-e6frf9io-1226167380908
what are you doing on a collingwood forum any way?
hope you had a wash, you and your monitor?
:lol
I just fumigated my laptop just in case ;D
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the caf trade has been spoken about all day on sen, bloody hope its true, but we cannot give up our first pick, but then again, caff is better than pick 15
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the caf trade has been spoken about all day on sen, bloody hope its true, but we cannot give up our first pick, but then again, caff is better than pick 15
It would be something like Graham + 55. Neutrals on BF saying a straight swap is fair. Caff not a star by any means. Though is better than Graham. Hard to get a neutral to discuss Scumwood :lol
What have they said on SEN?
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the caf trade has been spoken about all day on sen, bloody hope its true, but we cannot give up our first pick, but then again, caff is better than pick 15
and thats a given is it considering you dont even know who it is, Now Ive heard it all :lol
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Sydney Swans have just secured silky skilled half back Tony Armstrong and two picks, 35 & late one, with Lewis Johnston to Crows.
Source: Sydney Swans twitter
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Brisbane is interested in snaring out-of-favour Hawthorn big man Jordan Lisle.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/15/brisbane-interested-in-jordan-lisle/
If Brisbane get Lisle then that will pretty much kill any chance of McGuane leaving us :P.
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Sydney Swans have just secured silky skilled half back Tony Armstrong and two picks, 35 & late one, with Lewis Johnston to Crows.
Source: Sydney Swans twitter
This would be a win to Adelaide one would think.
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Yep and you're a hero. go tell Adam Pattison, Angus Graham Jay Schulz etc that you've been bagging them out for years on an internet forum. repeat some of the poo you've said about them to their face
the 3 of them combined would battle with wet tissue paper, please.
patto is clown
Angus is a dead set wanker
Schulz is a nuffer.
He told u to say it to their face not anonymously on the internet. :lol
:lol
Jstar, you call Angus a dead set wanker :lol he'd take you to the cleaners with one hand behind his back. he only needs his pimp hand
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Yep and you're a hero. go tell Adam Pattison, Angus Graham Jay Schulz etc that you've been bagging them out for years on an internet forum. repeat some of the poo you've said about them to their face
the 3 of them combined would battle with wet tissue paper, please.
patto is clown
Angus is a dead set wanker
Schulz is a nuffer.
He told u to say it to their face not anonymously on the internet. :lol
:lol
Jstar, you call Angus a dead set wanker :lol he'd take you to the cleaners with one hand behind his back. he only needs his pimp hand
mate, I have seen him out, hardly scary ::)
he couldnt even slap that girl properly a month ago.
Give me a spell will you
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Brisbane is interested in snaring out-of-favour Hawthorn big man Jordan Lisle.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/10/15/brisbane-interested-in-jordan-lisle/
If Brisbane get Lisle then that will pretty much kill any chance of McGuane leaving us :P.
tbh i would have thought mcguane is more up to senior footy than lisle. he's as slow as a wet week, will never make it
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Sounds like Jordan Lisle to the Lions according to the Quayle
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/emmasq
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If you believe the rumour there is at least a reasonable chance that in 12 months time the beefcake could be a premiership player!
Go all in!
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Gary Ayres knows talent like that when he sees it.
The Borough Beefcake?
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Gary Ayres knows talent like that when he sees it.
The Borough Beefcake?
The Buckley Beefcake!
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Mmmm beefcakes and figjam (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drooling/drooling-7.gif)
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[quote author=Jackstar is back again link=topic=12922.msg264820#msg264820
mate, I have seen him out, hardly scary ::)
he couldnt even slap that girl properly a month ago.
Give me a spell will you
[/quote]
You would know.....The women he apparently slapped was you wasn't it :lol :lol
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Rumour on bf that Mitch Clark to Melb for pick 12.
Melbourne FC have confirmed it at 11:08pm. Wow wee. So much for, Freo or PSD.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22613182&postcount=1
If its true I wonder why Mitch has changed his mind.
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Now the age is reporting it.
MELBOURNE has convinced Mitch Clark to join the Demons ahead of Fremantle, in a dramatic twist to trade week that will see Brisbane collect pick 12 in the national draft.
The Demons made an improved pitch late yesterday, and Clark informed the club of his decision late last night.
After the Lions yesterday began inching closer to a deal with Fremantle for the 23-year-old, who rejected the Demons' initial advances on Friday, Melbourne responded by making another strong pitch, upping an already significant four-year offer.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/melbourne-demons/surprise-as-clark-takes-up-demon-offer-20111015-1lqxx.html#ixzz1aqv6h1NI
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Trade Week - Day 6
Mitch Clark to Melbourne on a 4-year 600k per year deal.
Brisbane have accepted Melbourne's pick 12 in return which they may use along with pick 8 to poach Kurt Tippett from Adelaide.
Brisbane has also offered Jordan Lisle a 3-year contract. The Lisle deal is expected to go through tomorrow, with the Hawks and Lions to settle on which draft pick it will involve. Brisbane has picks 29, 30 and 34.
Essendon is highly unlikely to meet Gold Coast's asking price for onballer Josh Caddy, who wants to return to Melbourne to be with his unwell father. The Bombers had been trawling clubs trying to access two compensation picks to satisfy the Suns, to no avail. Essendon has offered Gold Coast its first pick, No.19, potentially another pick, and at least one player to complete the deal, but Gold Coast emphatically knocked the offer on its head. It's believed Gold Coast was keen on one of Essendon's top five players. The Bombers are still hopeful "compassionate grounds" might convince the new franchise club to release its player.
Bombers Henry Slattery, Ricky Dyson and Josh Jenkins remain on the trade table.
Hawthorn is still trying to convince Geelong to trade Tom Gillies, but so far has not put forward any names that the Cats consider an appropriate swap.
St Kilda was standing firm on in-demand players Jason Gram and Tommy Walsh, despite receiving offers for both. Gram is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries. Walsh wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/melbourne-demons/surprise-as-clark-takes-up-demon-offer-20111015-1lqxx.html#ixzz1asX8ROjk
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-beats-fremantle-to-secure-mitch-clark/story-fn69a32t-1226167582864
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/young-gun-josh-caddy-keen-to-help-his-dad/story-fn69a32t-1226167500775
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/st-kilda-refuses-to-budge-on-sam-gilbert-and-tommy-walsh/story-fn69a32t-1226167495031
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Melbourne is willing to buy their way up the ladder, well I hope they crash and burn evn more so than ever. Gary Lyon himself can steer this ship straight into oblivion :lol
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Well Friday Clarke said it wasn't about money, move forward 24 hours and it seems he couldn't say no to the money ;D Deserves to go to the Dees
And I wonder if there will be an out clause, say in 12 months if hw wants to go "home" he can
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Well Friday Clarke said it wasn't about money, move forward 24 hours and it seems he couldn't say no to the money ;D Deserves to go to the Dees
And I wonder if there will be an out clause, say in 12 months if hw wants to go "home" he can
Maybe he knew a freo and lions wasn't going to get a deal done and GWS had shown interest him if he nominated PSD so he cut his loses choose Melbourne for the time being.
I guess they had to throw money at someone to save face over losing Scully.
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Good move for the Dees IMO, they would have plenty of cap room and desperately need a key forward. Good outcome for Brisbane too rather than being held to ransom by Freo and Clark.
Will be interesting to see if Sanderson trades Tippett - would set up Adelaide with a very strong draft but put them into some pain during rebuilding that they wouldn't be used to.
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lets get serious here, honestly clarke is not that good, wtf has he really shown, and he only got a sleeve tat to hide and mask the fact that he is a soft coc....... and in this day and age , most men with tatts are fairies , who r they trying to bluff?
melb are dheads for chasing this over rated wannabe
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Good move for the Dees IMO, they would have plenty of cap room and desperately need a key forward. Good outcome for Brisbane too rather than being held to ransom by Freo and Clark.
Only problem with Clark is that for a key forward his best goal tally for a season is 27.... :whistle
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Clark is a wanker, says one thing one day and another the next. He will fit in at the dees :wallywink
Hope they win the spoon soon, I hate that ****** club as much as I hate Carlton. Nothing club, always will be.
Is there any snow left at Buller?
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dont know how this will end for melb,but i do admire them..they wanted craig and got him,now clarke,they have been super aggressive this off season
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yep agree clarke is a fos show pony
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dont know how this will end for melb,but i do admire them..they wanted craig and got him,now clarke they have been super agressive this off season
what a load of crap, they only got craig cos we didnt want him lol, if they think they had a win cos they have craig then they are kidding themselves, seriously all he has is a reputation built from his back yard in SA , but in afl terms, wtf has he really achieved???
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Good move for the Dees IMO, they would have plenty of cap room and desperately need a key forward. Good outcome for Brisbane too rather than being held to ransom by Freo and Clark.
Will be interesting to see if Sanderson trades Tippett - would set up Adelaide with a very strong draft but put them into some pain during rebuilding that they wouldn't be used to.
I have never understood all the hype about Tippett. Way overrated, and Sanderson should take the high draft picksfor him while he can IMO. Has all the makings of another disastrous Voss trade
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yep agree clarke is a fos show pony
We could have got Clarke to... If we were stupid enough to pay overs for a bloke who doesn't even
want to be in Vic.
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yep agree clarke is a fos show pony
We could have got Clarke to... If we were stupid enough to pay overs for a bloke who doesn't even
want to be in Vic.
That's why I raise the question does his contract have an out clause
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lets get serious here, honestly clarke is not that good, wtf has he really shown, and he only got a sleeve tat to hide and mask the fact that he is a soft coc....... and in this day and age , most men with tatts are fairies , who r they trying to bluff?
melb are dheads for chasing this over rated wannabe
:lol
Agree. Had one good year as a ruck, a position the figjam now refuses to play. Last two years he's been average.
He's certainly never given us any trouble, 4 goals in his entire career against the Tiges.
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Barrett reckons Macaffer hasn't been offered a new contract by Collingwood and will be squeezed out. No interest at the trade table for him from other clubs because other clubs know they will be able to get him in the draft (National/PSD).
Barrett is also still adamant that St Kilda has to move someone on - one or two of Gram, Dawson and Ray.
Just on Mitch Clark, Tom Rockliff tweeted to "I guess money can cure anything" ;D
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I love that Rockliff kid. He's a ripper.
He'll captain that club when Brown retires.
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Get a room, Gerks.
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Mitch Clark trade to Melbourne for pick 12 just confirmed by Brisbane. Paperwork to be lodged tomorrow. Their press release said "unfortunately Fremantle's initial offer was below expectations."
Brisbane Lions twitter:
"The Lions can confirm that the Club won't be offering both Picks 8 & 12 to Adelaide for Kurt Tippett as has been rumoured"
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Clark must have found a long lost relly in Melbourne and changed his mind :whistle :nope. Then again playing for Freo and singing that song is a fate worst than death ;D.
No wonder the Dees are happy only having to cough up pick 12. They should play finals next year if Neeld is any decent coach.
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Trent of Australia says: Hey Paul, i heard rumors of Shane Edwards + Ben Nason for Chris Knights and pick 24 have you heard anything about that?
Paul Pickering says: Haven't heard that one, mate, but I'd chalk it up as a major win for the Tigers if it went through. I still think Chris Knights can return to his dangerous best, and pick 24 would be overs for either Nason or Edwards.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-event-blog/day-seven-of-2011-afl-trade-week-looks-at-mitch-clark-fallout-brad-ebert-jordan-lisle-and-plenty-more/story-fn5k2y1b-1226167674955
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Sounds good, make it happen
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Sounds good, make it happen
mmmmhmmmm - ditto that....surely they wouldn't fall for that after the Tambo deal would they...? or could they??!! :pray
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If that deal is legit then Knights body is cooked. And we are then trading Nason, Edwards for 24 and Knights big salary that IIRC was bumped up thanks to us last year :lol
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Any news on the McAffer <-> Graham trade? Or any trade chasing McAffer? Heard that the dees are interested and are front runners.. Sick of the demons go away..
Lions still interested in McGuane? If we don't trade this year he may go for nothing next year in PSD?
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dees make me vomit, and im not the only one either.....
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Any news on the McAffer <-> Graham trade? Or any trade chasing McAffer? Heard that the dees are interested and are front runners.. Sick of the demons go away..
Lions still interested in McGuane? If we don't trade this year he may go for nothing next year in PSD?
He has agreed to a new contract with Collingwood.
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Any news on the McAffer <-> Graham trade? Or any trade chasing McAffer? Heard that the dees are interested and are front runners.. Sick of the demons go away..
Lions still interested in McGuane? If we don't trade this year he may go for nothing next year in PSD?
He has agreed to a new contract with Collingwood.
Wasn't that Toovey?
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I thought I read Macaffer was signing a contract as well but now i can't seem to find where I did read that.
Maybe I am thinking of Dawes. All of those people look the same to me. ;)
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lol..... :rollin :rollin
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Raise the bat,100 pages up :clapping
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100 of 180 (days).
A veritable mix of aggression, cutting and pulling. :clapping
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Boonie would be proud ;D ;D
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Jon Ralph pushing the definition of "good players" lol
From his twitter:
"It's bargain basement day tomorrow: good players going cheap in Setanta/Bower/Gram/Ray/McGuane/Connors/Macaffer. Any takers?"/
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100 of 180 (days).
A veritable mix of aggression, cutting and pulling. :clapping
The strength of the thread is that it knows where it's off stump is and has put the hook shot away.
No chances given in 100 pages, kiss the coat of arms.
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Trade Week - Day 7
Jason Gram could today join Carlton. The Saints are entertaining the prospect of losing Gram for a satisfactory trade swap involving at least one high draft selection.
Brisbane is almost certain to use a low draft selection to trade in veteran Western Bulldogs ruckman Ben Hudson.
Brisbane will also complete a deal for Hawthorn's Jordan Lisle to move north for a second-round draft selection - pick 29.
The Lions had told Adelaide on Friday they were prepared to offer a first-round pick - either 8 or 12 - and an end of first-round compensation pick for Kurt Tippett. The Crows said they were not interested in a trade unless it involved either of South Australians Jared Polec or Jack Redden. Brisbane is unprepared to entertain either of those players in a trade. Adelaide believe they can turn Tippett into a long-term Crow. Brisbane will have another crack at Tippett next year when he is out of contract and knowing he has a clause to be traded to his club of choice for a second and third round draft pick.
Brad Ebert is expected to cross to Port Adelaide from West Coast.
The Eagles remain confident of getting out-of-contract Western Bulldogs forward Josh Hill. Pick 49 remained the best offer the Western Bulldogs would get.
Geelong, angry that the Hawks have tentatively offered its back-up defender Tom Gillies, 21, a three-year contract while under contract to the Cats, have refused to negotiate with the Hawks.
St Kilda may convince Irishman Tommy Walsh that he should remain at the club. Walsh has told the club he wants a trade to Sydney but the Saints have so far indicated they want to retain him.
Melbourne could still make a late move to off-load Matthew Bate to the Bulldogs. They are asking for a first-round draft pick for the contracted player. The Bulldogs were not prepared to trade at that price.
Gold Coast will also probably complete a deal with Melbourne late today over defender Matthew Warnock.
The Bombers are likely to find rookie-listed ruck Josh Jenkins a new home, with both Adelaide and Gold Coast having offered him a contract and spot on their senior list.
Carlton pair Paul Bower and Setanta O'hAilpin are also yet to find new homes.
Collingwood pair John McCarthy and Brent Macaffer remain unmoved. McCarthy is understood to be likely to nominate for the drafts if a trade is not done today.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-morton-may-join-sydney-20111016-1lrjo.html#ixzz1axPk0piU
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/saints-weigh-up-gram-trade/story-e6frg7mf-1226168006825
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-search-for-top-pick-to-win-josh-caddy/story-fn69a32t-1226167924789
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Brisbane will also complete a deal for Hawthorn's Jordan Lisle to move north for a second-round draft selection - pick 29.
The Hawks have done very well getting a top 30 pick for a guy who played the VFL Ressies Grand Final against Coburg. Sheesh Vossy you could have got McGuane for cheaper than that and done us a favour lol.
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I reckon Martin St James does the negotiating at Hawthorn. Apparently Vossy will also cluck like a chicken whenever Lisle gets a touch
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5 trades done so far today:
Trade No.14
Fremantle: Second round draft selection (29), third round selection (58) and fourth draft selection (71)
Hawthorn: Second round draft selection (38), third round selection (56) on-traded to GWS Giants
Trade No.15
GWS Giants: Third round draft selection (56)
Hawthorn: Jarrad Boumann
Trade No.16
GWS Giants: Chad Cornes, Dean Brogan and fourth round draft selection (69)
Port Adelaide: Third round draft selection (49), on-traded to West Coast
Trade No.17
Port Adelaide: Brad Ebert, second round draft selection (45)
West Coast: Second round draft selection (28), third round selection (49)
Trade No.18
GWS: gain Pick 47
Collingwood: gain Peter Yagmoor (Qld zone selection) and pick 50.
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There's no real stand out between them all besides for Port picking up Brad
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Brisbane will also complete a deal for Hawthorn's Jordan Lisle to move north for a second-round draft selection - pick 29.
The Hawks have done very well getting a top 30 pick for a guy who played the VFL Ressies Grand Final against Coburg. Sheesh Vossy you could have got McGuane for cheaper than that and done us a favour lol.
Just goes to show how poo mcguane really is.
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More trades...
GWS: gain Luke Power
Brisbane: gain pick 69.
West Coast: gain Josh Hill (Bulldogs)
Western Bulldogs: gain pick 49.
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Lets get a deal done for McGuane
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Wonder if we'll see matthew warnock get to GC
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Bulldog Ben Hudson to Brisbane for pick 70
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Bulldog Ben Hudson to Brisbane for pick 70
lulz so the retireed Ben Hudson is worth more than M.Morton eff me :lol
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3-way trade:
Brisbane exchange rd2 pick (34) to Suns for Dayne Zorko (Qld Zone) and On-Traded rd2 pick (47).
Melbourne exchange Matthew Warnock to Gold Coast Suns.
Lions give Melbourne pick 52.
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3-way trade:
Brisbane exchange rd2 pick (34) to Suns for Dayne Zorko (Qld Zone) and On-Traded rd2 pick (47).
Melbourne exchange Matthew Warnock to Gold Coast Suns.
Lions give Melbourne pick 52.
So we are stuck with McGuane :P
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3-way trade:
Brisbane exchange rd2 pick (34) to Suns for Dayne Zorko (Qld Zone) and On-Traded rd2 pick (47).
Melbourne exchange Matthew Warnock to Gold Coast Suns.
Lions give Melbourne pick 52.
So melbourne gain 34 or 47?
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3-way trade:
Brisbane exchange rd2 pick (34) to Suns for Dayne Zorko (Qld Zone) and On-Traded rd2 pick (47).
Melbourne exchange Matthew Warnock to Gold Coast Suns.
Lions give Melbourne pick 52.
So melbourne gain 34 or 47?
How did pick 47 get from GWS to this trade?
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3-way trade:
Brisbane exchange rd2 pick (34) to Suns for Dayne Zorko (Qld Zone) and On-Traded rd2 pick (47).
Melbourne exchange Matthew Warnock to Gold Coast Suns.
Lions give Melbourne pick 52.
So melbourne gain 34 or 47?
How did pick 47 get from GWS to this trade?
47 was collingwood's. They traded it for Yagmoor and pick 50 from GC.
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3-way trade:
Brisbane exchange rd2 pick (34) to Suns for Dayne Zorko (Qld Zone) and On-Traded rd2 pick (47).
Melbourne exchange Matthew Warnock to Gold Coast Suns.
Lions give Melbourne pick 52.
So melbourne gain 34 or 47?
How did pick 47 get from GWS to this trade?
47 was collingwood's. They traded it for Yagmoor and pick 50 from GC.
Ah that makes sense. The twitter message I saw had Collingwood trading with GWS by mistake. Cheers tiger101.
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Geelong exchange rd 1 (26) to the Suns for its rd 2 (32) and its on-traded rd 2 (34).
Hutchy says as it stands right now, Melbourne not budging re Bate and he will stay at the Demons
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Geelong exchange rd 1 (26) to the Suns for its rd 2 (32) and its on-traded rd 2 (34).
Got to love Geelong's recruiting. They have utter faith in the draft and their recruiters and chase more decent picks rather than less.
Hutchy says as it stands right now, Melbourne not budging re Bate and he will stay at the Demons
As long as Bate doesn't come to Richmond is that matters.
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Geelong exchange rd 1 (26) to the Suns for its rd 2 (32) and its on-traded rd 2 (34).
Hutchy says as it stands right now, Melbourne not budging re Bate and he will stay at the Demons
just on twr they said another picks deal has been done between adelaide and GC.
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Trade p/work lodged - Adelaide exchange On-Traded rd1 (24) to the Suns for its Priority Selection (27), On-Traded rd 2 (31) and rd4 (68).
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Irish Saint Tommy Walsh off to the Swans for pick 35 apparently.
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So that leaves GC with 24, 26 and 86.
You gotta take 3 players in the draft dont you. Or does there mini draft pick count as the 3rd so they don't have to use 86.
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You can count promoted rookies as one of your 3 draft picks as well.
Is anyone else having trouble accessing Trade Week Radio?
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You can count promoted rookies as one of your 3 draft picks as well.
Is anyone else having trouble accessing Trade Week Radio?
Working fine for me. Your not missing much. Just running down saints for trading out Walsh.
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Only 10 minutes to go :-\.
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Is anyone else having trouble accessing Trade Week Radio?
Working fine for me. Your not missing much. Just running down saints for trading out Walsh.
Cheers tiger101. It's working again for me.
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With the picks we have, looks like we will take 1 teen from the championships with Pick 15 and the rest will be mature recruits from VFL, SANFL and WAFL.
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Essendon has traded rookie ruckman Jenkins and pick 41 to Adelaide for pick 31.
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Adelaide besides for GWS must of been one of the most active teams this week.
Dawson could be going to Freo very cheap apparently.
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7 trades in the first 7 days
20 trades and counting on the last day.
Yep we really needed a full week for this :P.
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whats that with richmond compo pick.
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whats that with richmond compo pick.
A swap of picks (see other thread)
Trade Week is official over. That's all folk!
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Melbourne are claiming they will be paying the minimum 92.5% of their salary cap even with Mitch Clark on their books :huh.
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Melbourne are claiming they will be paying the minimum 92.5% of their salary cap even with Mitch Clark on their books :huh.
If thats true I could imagine some of the other players they can't afford to lose wanting a nice pay day like Clark.