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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on August 30, 2009, 09:57:03 AM
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Jack is only a 3rd tall forward at best. Would anyone be prepared to trade Jack Riewoldt?
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he is too short to be our main forward
i would bulk him up and have him and Post as your 2 forwards.
id also play rance in the forward line.
jack will be better when he gets help. he is doing it all alone now
Plenty more to trade before him
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I agree with daniel, he has done a good job as a lone target! Keep him, i think he''ll be a champ!
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This thread is a bit boring and pointless. It was only a month ago we had the same thread. Here is the link for those with short memories (start with nahadaman's post near the bottom of the page):
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=4547.210 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=4547.210)
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he is 1 cm shorter than cuz nick
so he cant be that short
jack is a good kid and will be a goos key fwd once he gets a better structure and coach around him
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he is too short to be our main forward
i would bulk him up and have him and Post as your 2 forwards.
id also play rance in the forward line.
jack will be better when he gets help. he is doing it all alone now
Plenty more to trade before him
he's form a good tandem with butcher when we get him.
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INSIDE 50s
rd 19 Richmond 37 Sydney 53
rd 20 Richmond 33 Collingwood 67
rd 21 Richmond 39 Hawthorn 66
rd 22 Richmond 35 West Coast 56
Average Richmond 36 opposition 60.5
Take into account that the ball is being delivered into the forward line by the most unskillful team in the comp.
It would be a terrible time to be a Richmond forward.
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The answer is yes, everyone is tradable for the right trade
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Right now Jack is our only recognised forward and he is only 20.
No way in my opinion.
Put Jack up for trade but Schulz stays on the list for another year due to his contract.
That reaks of stupidity.
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He's not untouchable, however you need to remember that any kpp we draft to replace him is going to take a good 4 years to become a reliable full season player, especially as a key forward. Youngsters can cameo here and there, but it takes years to develop a player into a 95%+ gametime key forward with regular goal contributions.
Jack is the lone target in a crap side, only 20 years old and has kicked more goals in less games than his cousin Nick in their respective 3rd season in the game. In fact Jack is ahead over their entire first 3 years, Nick kicked 53 goals 37 from 50 games in his first 3 years. Jack has kicked 57 goals 38 behinds from 46 games.
Nick had a break out year in his 4th season, kicking over 60 goals, but then only 33 the next year from 3/4 of a season. It wasn't until his sixth year that he reached the standard that he is today.
He needs to improve his composure when kicking for goal, but give him more time in the gym, more stamina, more help and more delivery and there's no reason he can't be a critical component of our forward line. It would want to be a very VERY good trade to make it happen, because if we got rid of him, who would we kick it to?
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This thread is a bit boring and pointless. It was only a month ago we had the same thread. Here is the link for those with short memories (start with nahadaman's post near the bottom of the page):
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=4547.210 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=4547.210)
Dead right, I said in the other stupid thread on Riewoldt that it was an insipid thread and now another one pop's up, please closed it off moderators.
JACK IS A REQUIRED PLAYER AT THIS CLUB PEOPLE SO MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would trade him out if a club offered a first round pick between 7 and 10 for sure. Beyond that he stays but he is not a key forward. He is a 3rd forward tall and not overly quick either, Kicking for goal is average as well.
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I still can't believe what I am reading, ok then let's trade or delist all the youth out of the club, gee that's going forward, with Rance and Riewoldt gone we are making progress aren't we????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I would trade him out if a club offered a first round pick between 7 and 10 for sure. Beyond that he stays but he is not a key forward. He is a 3rd forward tall and not overly quick either, Kicking for goal is average as well.
7-10? No chance, he was around that mark in one of the strongest drafts in years.
Would need to be much more than that, not sure how you can say he's only a 3rd tall anyway, he's 193cm
He may not play like a dominating FF/CHF because he doesn't have the build yet
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These threads are funny or are some just taking the P, as if we are going to trade developing 20 year old when we have plenty to move on without trying ! You dont recive full market value when trading and this years pool talent is average anyway.
PS: Very late picks dont usually make it - prove me wrong if you can -LOL
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7-10? No chance, he was around that mark in one of the strongest drafts in years.
Would need to be much more than that, not sure how you can say he's only a 3rd tall anyway, he's 193cm
He may not play like a dominating FF/CHF because he doesn't have the build yet
I've wondered for a long time if that 193cm is correct. He looks (and certainly plays as you mention) a lot shorter. 193 would be the same as Nick.
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I know as a junior he ran with a strange hunched shoulders action. I haven't really paid attention to it since.
I think in an interview he said he was taller than nick by about 0.5cm in height
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INSIDE 50s
rd 19 Richmond 37 Sydney 53
rd 20 Richmond 33 Collingwood 67
rd 21 Richmond 39 Hawthorn 66
rd 22 Richmond 35 West Coast 56
Average Richmond 36 opposition 60.5
Take into account that the ball is being delivered into the forward line by the most unskillful team in the comp.
It would be a terrible time to be a Richmond forward.
That sums it up for me. Our gamestyle is so terribly slow and inefficient and it's hard to move forward quickly and kick goals when the team lacks basic structure and those downfield can't hit the side of a barn. It's those downfield we should be trading.
No doubt we need find a big key forward as Jack isn't a No.1 key forward but Jack's kicked 32.27 from 20 games in his 3rd year. Which is more than even his cousin or Fev kicked in their 3rd year. What Jack needs to do is get into the gym over summer and build up his leg muscles so he can kick with greater penetration and accuracy.
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I still can't believe what I am reading, ok then let's trade or delist all the youth out of the club, gee that's going forward, with Rance and Riewoldt gone we are making progress aren't we????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Rance is awefully slow.
Rememer this, 1994 we traded our leading goal kicker and club captain for Broderick and Michael Gale. WE made the finals the following year
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I still can't believe what I am reading, ok then let's trade or delist all the youth out of the club, gee that's going forward, with Rance and Riewoldt gone we are making progress aren't we????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Rance is awefully slow.
Rememer this, 1994 we traded our leading goal kicker and club captain for Broderick and Michael Gale. WE made the finals the following year
So we trade Morton and Newman.
Hmmmm
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I still can't believe what I am reading, ok then let's trade or delist all the youth out of the club, gee that's going forward, with Rance and Riewoldt gone we are making progress aren't we????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Rance is awefully slow.
Rememer this, 1994 we traded our leading goal kicker and club captain for Broderick and Michael Gale. WE made the finals the following year
So we trade Morton and Newman.
Hmmmm
You see, all the supporters fall in love with them.
I like Reiwoldt but hasnt had a kick for 5 weeks,.
EVERYONE IS TRADEABLE
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Can we trade you, I would even take Joffa and throw in Jon - LOL. I belive what you are really saying at the right price anybody is tradeable.
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Bad Call. No.
Better than Hawkins, Dowler, J.Grant, Watts (at present), White, Westhoff and many others at this stage.
Bout the only better young forwards going around that I would have rather than J.Riewoldt would be Kurt Tippet and J.Kennedy.
Just let him play guys.
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Can we trade you, I would even take Joffa and throw in Jon - LOL. I belive what you are really saying at the right price anybody is tradeable.
At the right price, anyone is tradeable.
Camboon for barbara at the Blues. LOL
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Jack is only a 3rd tall forward at best. Would anyone be prepared to trade Jack Riewoldt?
I wouldn't trade him, I think he is developing very well and will be an excellent player in the future. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush (or in this case two in a diluted draft).
He's a keeper.