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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on September 01, 2009, 07:55:32 AM
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List of Players Gone: 5 and Counting: Target between 10 and 14.
Kane Johnson- Retired
Joel Bowden- Retired
Nathan Brown- Delisted
Mark Coughlan- Delisted
Jarrad Oakley Nicholls- Delisted
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I think a target of 10-14 is a bit of stretch Ramps - cannot see it happening with the draft talent pool the way it is
I reckon 8-10 is more realistic
This isn't about what everyone would like/wants
It has to be about what is realistic & achievable in the current climate
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Can anyone confirm that Pettifer is officially gone as of today?
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Can anyone confirm that Pettifer is officially gone as of today?
Haven't heard that one
Would think they would try to trade him first
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Been told Pettifer and Polak could be gone, dont know how true though,
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Been told Pettifer and Polak could be gone, dont know how true though,
Pettifer is a no brainer I would have thought
Polak - I'd keep for another year on a base contract with incentives. That he was able to get back and play AFL this season and the massive improvement he made in the last 10-12 weeks I reckon it is worth it
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No place for sentiment in football.
You might find the club will be brutal
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sentiment aside i think Polak still might come good.
Petrified no brainer. gone but Polak should be given another year.
His body is still fine remember and if his brain issues are all dealt with he will be an asset next year.
plenty should go before him, in fact at least 12 before Polak IMO
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This thread should be a sticky so we can just list the terminated players.
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Been told Pettifer and Polak could be gone, dont know how true though,
Pettifer is a no brainer I would have thought
Polak - I'd keep for another year on a base contract with incentives. That he was able to get back and play AFL this season and the massive improvement he made in the last 10-12 weeks I reckon it is worth it
Bye Polly, Bye Petts, Bi Raines (for pick), Bye Simmonds, Bi Jordy (for pick), Bi Shultz (for pick). Heeeeeello re-build!
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Been told Pettifer and Polak could be gone, dont know how true though,
Pettifer is a no brainer I would have thought
Polak - I'd keep for another year on a base contract with incentives. That he was able to get back and play AFL this season and the massive improvement he made in the last 10-12 weeks I reckon it is worth it
Bye Polly, Bye Petts, Bi Raines (for pick), Bye Simmonds, Bi Jordy (for pick), Bi Shultz (for pick). Heeeeeello re-build!
Think Simmonds might be staying
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No place for sentiment in football.
You might find the club will be brutal
Sentiment? There are plenty in front of Polly that should be shown the door!
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Polly and Simo just might have some trade value as would Brown for very late draft picks especially if a club has no intention of using them.
Geelong never used the picks they got for King and Gardiner
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Including rookies and rookie promotion(s) we should be able to turnover at least 10 players. Any trades for a decent picks would boost that number (eg: Raines for the Lions' pick 28).
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Any chance we can steal any kind of draft pick for Silvester?
Pleeeeeeease. :rollin :lol
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are you now allowed to trade rookies for draft picks ?
should trade Wacko Jackson.
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so how does the list look now ?
Richo ?
Cousins
Simmonds ?
Tuck
Pettifer ?
Newman
McMahon ?
Moore
King
Polak ?
Silvester ?
Schultz ?
The next oldest on the list is Foley @ 23 yoa :-\
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so how does the list look now ?
Richo ..... stay
Cousins .... stay
Simmonds .... should go
Tuck .... trade
Pettifer .... gone
Newman .... stay
McMahon .... trade :pray
Moore .... stay
King .... should go but he's got a contract and no trade value so he'll stay.
Polak .... gone sadly
Silvester .... gone
Schulz .... should go but he's got a contract
The next oldest on the list is Foley @ 23 yoa :-\
It's quite possible if we trade expendable players away that in 3 months time we'll have just two National draftees (Newy and Jacko) left from Frawley's 5 years of drafting just 5 years later. Foley and Moore were rookies. Way to go Spud :banghead.
No surprise Foley could end up one of the oldest on our list despite being only 23 when you look at how thin our prime age stocks still are. That's why we'll still struggle for at least another 2-3 years.
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Been told Pettifer and Polak could be gone, dont know how true though,
Pettifer is a no brainer I would have thought
Polak - I'd keep for another year on a base contract with incentives. That he was able to get back and play AFL this season and the massive improvement he made in the last 10-12 weeks I reckon it is worth it
Bye Polly, Bye Petts, Bi Raines (for pick), Bye Simmonds, Bi Jordy (for pick), Bi Shultz (for pick). Heeeeeello re-build!
Think Simmonds might be staying
Bump
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Going by the RFC site the only players gone officially are Bowden, Brown, Johnson and Raines
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/tabid/7689/category/senior/season/2009/default.aspx
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Going by the RFC site the only players gone officially are Bowden, Brown, Johnson and Raines
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/tabid/7689/category/senior/season/2009/default.aspx
They must be waiting until after trade week to officially finalize the list, some of the players like Tuck might stay, might go. Pettifer probably will go, there doesn't appear to have been any comment about Polak and so on and so forth. So I'm not surprised. I expect somewhere between 7-12 to go all up at some stage or another this off season.
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Hopefully 10 as a minimum or 15 as a maximum will go depending on who gets traded and how many draft picks we can get in exchange.
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trade bait.
tambling, moore, jackson, edwards, mcguane, tuck, raines, only two there who make core list. would have liked to see all these players offered up for trade this yr.
delist.
brown, coughlan, graham, hughes, king, mcmahon, jon, pattison, pettifer, polak, polo, white, schulz, simmonds, silvestor,
retire.
johnson, richardson, bowden, cousins,
development types in trouble.
putt, gourdis, connors,
of course this is a 3 yr scenario would like it to be two but it cant be done. in reality we are in the same boat as gc17 thats the base we are starting from. in fact they have it over us atm they dont have 3/4s of their list to turn over.
in three yrs time if we have really turned it around and learnt from the past and implemented a proper player rating system that focuses only on player strengths and weakness the majority of the above players will be gone.
a few may surprise and stay and others not mentioned as yet will probably go.
three drafts people about 27 28 players with the picks we will get wrong its likely closer to 4 drafts before we even get rid of the dead wood.
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trade bait.
tambling, moore, jackson, edwards, mcguane, tuck, raines, only two there who make core list. would have liked to see all these players offered up for trade this yr.
delist.
brown, coughlan, graham, hughes, king, mcmahon, jon, pattison, pettifer, polak, polo, white, schulz, simmonds, silvestor,
retire.
johnson, richardson, bowden, cousins,
development types in trouble.
putt, gourdis, connors,
of course this is a 3 yr scenario would like it to be two but it cant be done. in reality we are in the same boat as gc17 thats the base we are starting from. in fact they have it over us atm they dont have 3/4s of their list to turn over.
in three yrs time if we have really turned it around and learnt from the past and implemented a proper player rating system that focuses only on player strengths and weakness the majority of the above players will be gone.
a few may surprise and stay and others not mentioned as yet will probably go.
three drafts people about 27 28 players with the picks we will get wrong its likely closer to 4 drafts before we even get rid of the dead wood.
who are you keeping?
:)
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trade bait.
tambling, moore, jackson, edwards, mcguane, tuck, raines, only two there who make core list. would have liked to see all these players offered up for trade this yr.
delist.
brown, coughlan, graham, hughes, king, mcmahon, jon, pattison, pettifer, polak, polo, white, schulz, simmonds, silvestor,
retire.
johnson, richardson, bowden, cousins,
development types in trouble.
putt, gourdis, connors,
of course this is a 3 yr scenario would like it to be two but it cant be done. in reality we are in the same boat as gc17 thats the base we are starting from. in fact they have it over us atm they dont have 3/4s of their list to turn over.
in three yrs time if we have really turned it around and learnt from the past and implemented a proper player rating system that focuses only on player strengths and weakness the majority of the above players will be gone.
a few may surprise and stay and others not mentioned as yet will probably go.
three drafts people about 27 28 players with the picks we will get wrong its likely closer to 4 drafts before we even get rid of the dead wood.
who are you keeping?
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not many like i said we are closer to the gc17 situation than many think.
okay just for you players left and kept for now .and players who may make the grade.
deledio verygood/elite.
cotchin development.
vickery development,
post development,
riewoldt development
collins development
foley core
moore core/trade
tambling core/trade
putt development/delist
rance development
browne development
gourdis development /delist
gilligan development
nahas development.
connors development/delist
newman core
edwards development/trade
hislop development /delist.
thomson entering 6th yr not sure where to classify him
20 including rookies and borderline development players. of course with so many in development it is not unreasonable to expect failures in that lot. also remember this is based over 3 yrs. there are 7 players in the trade delist category they may all stay or they may all go its borderline and to early/hard to pick.
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trade bait.
tambling, moore, jackson, edwards, mcguane, tuck, raines, only two there who make core list. would have liked to see all these players offered up for trade this yr.
delist.
brown, coughlan, graham, hughes, king, mcmahon, jon, pattison, pettifer, polak, polo, white, schulz, simmonds, silvestor,
retire.
johnson, richardson, bowden, cousins,
development types in trouble.
putt, gourdis, connors,
of course this is a 3 yr scenario would like it to be two but it cant be done. in reality we are in the same boat as gc17 thats the base we are starting from. in fact they have it over us atm they dont have 3/4s of their list to turn over.
in three yrs time if we have really turned it around and learnt from the past and implemented a proper player rating system that focuses only on player strengths and weakness the majority of the above players will be gone.
a few may surprise and stay and others not mentioned as yet will probably go.
three drafts people about 27 28 players with the picks we will get wrong its likely closer to 4 drafts before we even get rid of the dead wood.
* I would like to keep Tambling.
* It is not impossibile White and/or Polo come good.
* Cousins might keep going for more years yet. He is very fit and missed many games during his late 20s which can only be good for his body long term.
* I really hope Connors makes it.
The rest I agree with.
of course with so many in development it is not unreasonable to expect failures in that lot.
By the same token, some players which you do not hold alot of hope for will surpise and make it due to having so many U23s on the list.
ie. McGaune or a Gilligan.
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trade bait.
tambling, moore, jackson, edwards, mcguane, tuck, raines, only two there who make core list. would have liked to see all these players offered up for trade this yr.
delist.
brown, coughlan, graham, hughes, king, mcmahon, jon, pattison, pettifer, polak, polo, white, schulz, simmonds, silvestor,
retire.
johnson, richardson, bowden, cousins,
development types in trouble.
putt, gourdis, connors,
of course this is a 3 yr scenario would like it to be two but it cant be done. in reality we are in the same boat as gc17 thats the base we are starting from. in fact they have it over us atm they dont have 3/4s of their list to turn over.
in three yrs time if we have really turned it around and learnt from the past and implemented a proper player rating system that focuses only on player strengths and weakness the majority of the above players will be gone.
a few may surprise and stay and others not mentioned as yet will probably go.
three drafts people about 27 28 players with the picks we will get wrong its likely closer to 4 drafts before we even get rid of the dead wood.
* I would like to keep Tambling.
* It is not impossibile White and/or Polo come good.
* Cousins might keep going for more years yet. He is very fit and missed many games during his late 20s which can only be good for his body long term.
* I really hope Connors makes it.
The rest I agree with.
of course with so many in development it is not unreasonable to expect failures in that lot.
By the same token, some players which you do not hold alot of hope for will surpise and make it due to having so many U23s on the list.
ie. McGaune or a Gilligan.
i too hope tambling stays but he is one who has value and is one imo we can afford to lose. connors sheesh lots of injury lots of talent but he has to start producing.
matty white for his type is a spud just has to go.
luke mcguane is one of three third tall options we have people kid themselves into thinking we have kpds but we dont.of those three mcguane moore and thursfield mcguane is the lest skilled yep he has a go but he is a dumb udersized poorly skilled playeratm he may have some value i would not hesitate to offer up mcguane and say pick 51 for pick 20 thru 25. if anything is certain in a couple of yrs time we will be doing the exercise. glass half full players like mcguane are not the answer in fact they are the problem.
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trade bait.
tambling, moore, jackson, edwards, mcguane, tuck, raines, only two there who make core list. would have liked to see all these players offered up for trade this yr.
delist.
brown, coughlan, graham, hughes, king, mcmahon, jon, pattison, pettifer, polak, polo, white, schulz, simmonds, silvestor,
retire.
johnson, richardson, bowden, cousins,
development types in trouble.
putt, gourdis, connors,
of course this is a 3 yr scenario would like it to be two but it cant be done. in reality we are in the same boat as gc17 thats the base we are starting from. in fact they have it over us atm they dont have 3/4s of their list to turn over.
in three yrs time if we have really turned it around and learnt from the past and implemented a proper player rating system that focuses only on player strengths and weakness the majority of the above players will be gone.
a few may surprise and stay and others not mentioned as yet will probably go.
three drafts people about 27 28 players with the picks we will get wrong its likely closer to 4 drafts before we even get rid of the dead wood.
3 draft/trade periods is really only 2 years from now (end of 2011). We'll more than likely struggle in that time so even with GC17 coming in, a bottom 2 finish will still give us either pick 4 or 6. No real issue there. The lack of PPs is what will make the rebuild take longer. We need to trade well with GC17 to make up for it and gain another top 20 pick. Also the worst thing we can do next year is have a 9th or 10th ladder finish under the enthusiasm of a new coach as we did in Plough's first year. We need to bottom out so we can make the most of the drafts and gain as many high and midrange picks as possible. Do a Geelong in Bomber's first 3 drafts where they picked up 23 kids and turned over their list quickly. The fact we have only drafted 13 kids in the past 4 drafts shows we weren't truly rebuilding and turning over our list.
Btw I would say Polo is tradeable if Rainesy is.
Gourdis should be in the delisting category. He can't kick. A shame as he's a great size to be a KPP but based on footy ability it's bye-bye.
Connors hasn't had a preseason in his time at the club. I would still give him time. If he has an issue it's above the shoulders. He still needs to learn bread and butter team footy comes first and then base his natural flair around that.
I would keep Blingers.
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Updating the list after trade week:
Gone: Bowden (not on senior list), Sugar, Brown, Cogs, Schulz, Raines, Cleve, JON, Patto and Petts.
Gain: Farmer
So 8 senior list spots are free.
If Nahas is promoted leaving us with 7 draft picks then I don't get why we traded for pick 72 unless we plan to delist another player or forget about the PSD ???
Our picks are: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67 and either pick 72/PSD#2
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Putt/Polak?
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Updating the list after trade week:
Gone: Bowden (not on senior list), Sugar, Brown, Cogs, Schulz, Raines, Cleve, JON, Patto and Petts.
Gain: Farmer
So 8 senior list spots are free.
If Nahas is promoted leaving us with 7 draft picks then I don't get why we traded for pick 72 unless we plan to delist another player or forget about the PSD ???
Our picks are: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67 and either pick 72/PSD#2
2 players are to be "'moved on ""
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Would hope we hold on to Polak now we've traded Schulz and delisted Hughes & Pattison
Polak can play ruck too
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Ten players gone with two more to be moved on according to Jack. Gives us 12 players to be off the senior list. That was pretty much an acceptable figure based on the 10 minimum 15 maximum depending on trade week delistings etc we were discussing about one month ago. I'm happy with that. :thumbsup
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we pruned deeply..couldnt really do more without screwing up the list .
LOL whatever happened to terrys spread of ages he raved on about...me thinks that was a load of bollocks
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2 players are to be "'moved on ""
Are they both senior listed players though?
Silvester and Gourdis may be cut as well but as rookies they aren't part of our senior list. The National Draft and PSD only affect senior lists.
The only two guys I can think of on our senior list that could be still "moved on" are Polak and Putt.
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I think you may find that Patto hasn't been de-listed as yet
Jon Ralph said he was lkely to go but that doesn't mean it's official ;D
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I think Putt would be very nervous at the moment. His career is hanging by a thread.
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Hope we keep Putt and Gourdis, give them a year under Hardwick to see if they have anything to offer.
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I think you may find that Patto hasn't been de-listed as yet
Jon Ralph said he was lkely to go but that doesn't mean it's official ;D
True WP. The official delistings don't need to be made until the end of October. At the moment only Joel, Sugar, Browny, Cogs, Rainesy and Sarge are officially gone on the RFC site. Having said that the names mentioned as delisted are no surprise and you would think they would've been told their fate already so they can move on in life.
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Id be happy with 12 changes. Makes a decent 1st up statement from the new coach.
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Id be happy with 12 changes. Makes a decent 1st up statement from the new coach.
Yep at that rate we can turnover our list in 3 draft/trade periods (2 years from now). It's now up to CC, FJ and the recruiters to pick right in the National draft from the 7 or so picks we'll have.
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Some guy just called sen saying he was disappointed putt was delisted last friday.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16032670&postcount=1
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Our list as it stands in terms of age and size
Ages Round 1, 2010 (current number of games)
35: Richo (282)
31: Cousins (253), Simmonds (190)
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28: Tuck (110)
27: Newman (154)
26: McMahon (148 ), King (41), Moore (65)
25: -
24: Foley (84)
23: Jackson (69), Polo (52), Thomson (30), Thursfield (53), McGuane (54), Morton (50), Tambling (95)
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22: Deledio (106), Graham (18 ), White (54), Nahas# (19)
21: Hislop (19), Collins (10), Connors (10), Edwards (47), Riewoldt (46)
20: Farmer (3), Post (7), Rance (15)
19: Cotchin (25), Vickery (9), Browne# (1), Gilligan# (-)
18: 2009 draftees
Oldies: 3
Prime: 13
Youth: 16 + 2009 newbies
Rucks (4): Browne# (205), Graham (200), Vickery (200), Simmonds (197)
Bigger Talls (2): Richo (195), Post (194)
Talls (5): Rance (192), Riewoldt (192), McGuane (191), Thursfield (191), Moore (189)
Tall Mids (4): Deledio (189), Tuck (189), Jackson (187), Polo (187)
Midsized Mids (8 ): Cotchin (185), Hislop (185), McMahon (185), Morton (185), Collins (184), Connors (184), Thomson (184), Newman (183)
Small Mids (9): Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (176), Nahas# (176), King (174)
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are we expecting anymore delistings?
has Polak and Putt been delisted?
they are not in "OE" list?
:)
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are we expecting anymore delistings?
has Polak and Putt been delisted?
:)
Jackstar said two more to go with surnames beginning with the same letter.
Nine small mids is quite a lot. You'd hope that number to be trimmed over the next year or two and replaced by talls.
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are we expecting anymore delistings?
has Polak and Putt been delisted?
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Jackstar said two more to go with surnames beginning with the same letter.
Nine small mids is quite a lot. You'd hope that number to be trimmed over the next year or two and replaced by talls.
what proof?
and i agree, need more talls!
:)
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I for one would still like to see Polak stay, give him the pre-season, he did show glimpses and I would like to see the club give him another shot. I mean after all they have given, Polo, Edwards, MacMahon, Patto etc... another go and they were only hit with a football. ::)
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I for one would still like to see Polak stay, give him the pre-season, he did show glimpses and I would like to see the club give him another shot. I mean after all they have given, Polo, Edwards, MacMahon, Patto etc... another go and they were only hit with a football. ::)
going to be delisted, that is the word.
:)
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I for one would still like to see Polak stay, give him the pre-season, he did show glimpses and I would like to see the club give him another shot. I mean after all they have given, Polo, Edwards, MacMahon, Patto etc... another go and they were only hit with a football. ::)
Polo, Edwards, Patto are all quite young players.
Polak is old and gets hit by trams.
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I for one would still like to see Polak stay, give him the pre-season, he did show glimpses and I would like to see the club give him another shot. I mean after all they have given, Polo, Edwards, MacMahon, Patto etc... another go and they were only hit with a football. ::)
Polo, Edwards, Patto are all quite young players.
Polak is old and gets hit by trams.
Polak is only 25 and you're a maggot
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25 is not young for AFL footballer when you are drafted @ 17 yoa.
Polo - 2004 draft
Edwards - 06
Pattison - 04
Polak - 01
i could think of a similar word for you with a f instead of a m :shh
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Let's leave the namecalling out of replies people!
Anyway blaisee on BF says Putt has been delisted.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16040245&postcount=16
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I for one would still like to see Polak stay, give him the pre-season, he did show glimpses and I would like to see the club give him another shot. I mean after all they have given, Polo, Edwards, MacMahon, Patto etc... another go and they were only hit with a football. ::)
Polo, Edwards, Patto are all quite young players.
Polak is old and gets hit by trams.
Polak is only 25 and you're a maggot
Is Bentleigh-esque an umpire????
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Sentiment aside, Polak was no great shakes before the tram!?
I remember listening to triple m the day of the accident and they were lamenting his ability to take a contested grab or any other contested football for that matter...
But i think one more crack in a season that has no aspirations of being great is fair.
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I remember listening to triple m the day of the accident and they were lamenting his ability to take a contested grab or any other contested football for that matter...
Pretty hard to do when you have ribs cracked while filling the hole in front of Fevola early in the game.
He still filled the hole in front of Fevola with sore ribs later in the game when he went back on and managed to take 8 marks for the day in not a lot of game time.
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I for one would still like to see Polak stay, give him the pre-season, he did show glimpses and I would like to see the club give him another shot. I mean after all they have given, Polo, Edwards, MacMahon, Patto etc... another go and they were only hit with a football. ::)
Polo, Edwards, Patto are all quite young players.
Polak is old and gets hit by trams.
Mmmm, not nice BE perhaps your comments may be better directed at football, I am sure your family would dislike comments like that if it had happened to you. How did Geelong win the Cup with their player group having soooooooo many old players in it?? Most were between 25-28!!
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25 is not young for AFL footballer when you are drafted @ 17 yoa.
Polo - 2004 draft
Edwards - 06
Pattison - 04
Polak - 01
Nice comparison, 3 smalls compared to a kpp? 25 is plenty young for a tall
He was 24 when hit by the tram which is around the age that kpps generally start hitting their straps, he's missed out on some key years
Not sure how anyone could have critisised Polak's ability to take a contested mark
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I remember listening to triple m the day of the accident and they were lamenting his ability to take a contested grab or any other contested football for that matter...
Pretty hard to do when you have ribs cracked while filling the hole in front of Fevola early in the game.
He still filled the hole in front of Fevola with sore ribs later in the game when he went back on and managed to take 8 marks for the day in not a lot of game time.
l like a bloke who knows his football :thumbsup
the Fish has struck again ;D :clapping :clapping
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Sentiment aside, Polak was no great shakes before the tram!?
Agreed. No issue whatsoever if Polly is delisted.
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SEN just said no official news on Richmond delistings as yet when Schwarz was asked about it.
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SEN just said no official news on Richmond delistings as yet when Schwarz was asked about it.
patience... ;D ;)
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Richmond actually hasn't delisted anyone officially.
Johnson, Bowden, Raines and Schulz are officially the only players out.
even though Brown and Coughlan have been told they are not getting their contracts renewed, Richmond has not made it official.
funny things can happen.
:)
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Richmond actually hasn't delisted anyone officially.
Johnson, Bowden, Raines and Schulz are officially the only players out.
even though Brown and Coughlan have been told they are not getting their contracts renewed, Richmond has not made it official.
funny things can happen.
:)
Browny and Cogs are officially delisted as well. Their listed on the AFL website as such. It's the others mentioned in the media that haven't been officially delisted - JON, Hughes, Petts, Patto, ....
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2010 AFL club lists as they stand
By Matt Burgan 5:34 PM Fri 16 October, 2009
Note: Several clubs are yet to confirm their delistings.
RICHMOND
1. Collins, Andrew
2. Connors, Daniel
3. Cotchin, Trent
4. Cousins, Ben
5. Deledio, Brett
6. Edwards, Shane
7. Farmer, Mitch
8. Foley, Nathan
9. Graham, Angus
10. Hislop, Tom
11. Hughes, Cleve
12. Jackson, Daniel
13. King, Jake
14. McGuane, Luke
15. McMahon, Jordan
16. Moore, Kelvin
17. Morton, Mitch
18. Newman, Chris
19. Oakley-Nicholls, Jarrad
20. Pattison, Adam
21. Pettifer, Kayne
22. Polak, Graham
23. Polo, Dean
24. Post, Jayden
25. Putt, Dean
26. Rance, Alex
27. Richardson, Matthew (veteran – outside list)
28. Riewoldt, Jack
29. Simmonds, Troy
30. Tambling, Richard
31. Thomson, Adam
32. Thursfield, Will
33. Tuck, Shane
34. Vickery, Tyrone
35. White, Matthew
36.
37.
38.
39.
Rookie List
1. Browne, Andrew
2. Gilligan, Alroy
3. Gourdis, David
4. Nahas, Robin
5. Silvester, Jarrod
6.
7.
ADDITIONS
Father-Son selection: –
Exchange period: Mitch Farmer (Port Adelaide)
Rookie elevation: –
Scholarship elevation:
NAB AFL Draft:
International rookie selection:
Three-year non-registered player selection:
NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft:
NAB AFL Rookie Draft:
DELETIONS
Retired: Joel Bowden (veteran – outside list), Kane Johnson,
Exchange period: Andrew Raines (Brisbane Lions), Jay Schulz (Port Adelaide)
Delisted: Nathan G. Brown, Mark Coughlan
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86155/default.aspx
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I thought JON was delisted?
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I thought JON was delisted?
Hence, "Note: Several clubs are yet to confirm their delistings. "
That's us.
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RICHMOND
1. Collins, Andrew
2. Connors, Daniel
3. Cotchin, Trent
4. Cousins, Ben
5. Deledio, Brett
6. Edwards, Shane
7. Farmer, Mitch
8. Foley, Nathan
9. Graham, Angus
10. Hislop, Tom
11. Jackson, Daniel
12. King, Jake
13. McGuane, Luke
14. McMahon, Jordan
15. Moore, Kelvin
16. Morton, Mitch
17. Newman, Chris
18. Nahas, Robin
19. Polo, Dean
20. Post, Jayden
21. Rance, Alex
22. Richardson, Matthew (veteran – outside list)
23. Riewoldt, Jack
24. Simmonds, Troy
25. Tambling, Richard
26. Thomson, Adam
27. Thursfield, Will
28. Tuck, Shane
29. Vickery, Tyrone
30. White, Matthew
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32.
33.
34.
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
Rookie List
1. Browne, Andrew
2. Gilligan, Alroy
3. Gourdis, David
4.
5.
6.
7.
ADDITIONS
Father-Son selection: –
Exchange period: Mitch Farmer (Port Adelaide)
Rookie elevation: Robin Nahas
Scholarship elevation:
NAB AFL Draft:
International rookie selection:
Three-year non-registered player selection:
NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft:
NAB AFL Rookie Draft:
DELETIONS
Retired: Joel Bowden (veteran – outside list), Kane Johnson,
Exchange period: Andrew Raines (Brisbane Lions), Jay Schulz (Port Adelaide)
Delisted: Nathan G. Brown, Mark Coughlan, Cleve Hughes, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Graham Polak, Dean Putt, Jarrod Silvester (rookie)
Source: The One-Eyed Richmond Forum
:)
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What about Dean Putt Torch?
Delisted, retained, rookied?
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What about Dean Putt Torch?
Delisted, retained, rookied?
:)
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2010 Delistings & Retirements already worked out.
Angus Graham
Tom Hislop
Jake King - should go this year to be honest
Jordan McMahon- should go this year to be honest
Adam Thomson
Shane Tuck
Troy Simmonds- retirement
Matthew Richardson- retirement
8 in total
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2010 Delistings & Retirements already worked out.
Angus Graham
Tom Hislop
Jake King - should go this year to be honest
Jordan McMahon- should go this year to be honest
Adam Thomson
Shane Tuck
Troy Simmonds- retirement
Matthew Richardson- retirement
8 in total
Got tonights tattslotto numbers?
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2010 Delistings & Retirements already worked out.
Angus Graham
Tom Hislop
Jake King - should go this year to be honest
Jordan McMahon- should go this year to be honest
Adam Thomson
Shane Tuck
Troy Simmonds- retirement
Matthew Richardson- retirement
8 in total
I doubt the bolded players will be delisted.
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2010 Delistings & Retirements already worked out.
Angus Graham
Tom Hislop
Jake King - should go this year to be honest
Jordan McMahon- should go this year to be honest
Adam Thomson
Shane Tuck
Troy Simmonds- retirement
Matthew Richardson- retirement
8 in total
Got tonights tattslotto numbers?
which ones do you disagree with. King McMahon and Tuck would of gone this year if they didnt have contracts. Richo and Simmo will retire. The other 3 are average. I think this list of 8 will be pretty close.
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2010 Delistings & Retirements already worked out.
Angus Graham
Tom Hislop
Jake King - should go this year to be honest
Jordan McMahon- should go this year to be honest
Adam Thomson
Shane Tuck
Troy Simmonds- retirement
Matthew Richardson- retirement
8 in total
Got tonights tattslotto numbers?
which ones do you disagree with. King McMahon and Tuck would of gone this year if they didnt have contracts. Richo and Simmo will retire. The other 3 are average. I think this list of 8 will be pretty close.
I will watch Graham's season with great interest now we have Lade on board. Hislop, Thomson and King are all in the "who knows under a new coach" category - the rest are pretty obvious although if Tuck stays he might manage to re-invent himself under Hardwick. And while I am mentioning Graham, I have a very good feeling about Browne - I reckon he will come on in leaps and bounds in 2010.
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Time to show my ignorance but what is "Three-year non-registered player selection"
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I spoke to someone from the Club today. 11 Tigers are definitely gone and there's a chance another may go by Friday.
Brown, Bowden, Sugar, Cogs, Schulz, Raines, JON, Petts, Patto, Cleve and Putt are all gone. I was told today Putt has been delisted.
Not sure about the rookie delistings but Gourdis was at training today. The only rookie listed player we didn't see today was Silvester but he's the only one I can't confirm as either staying or going.
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11 Tigers are definitely gone and there's a chance another may go by Friday.
Polak?
That is 4 failed big guys gone so far.
Leaves us a bit light on in that department.
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look everyone is saying we are going to bottom out in 2010,but maybe we wont.All these players being de listed,traded etc are hardly the fabric of the 2009 team.Just maybe with better coaching,a better game plan,further development in cotchin,vickerty,and post ,a fit and firing foley and an influx of young enthusiastic recruits we can go better than last year.
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look everyone is saying we are going to bottom out in 2010,but maybe we wont.All these players being de listed,traded etc are hardly the fabric of the 2009 team.Just maybe with better coaching,a better game plan,further development in cotchin,vickerty,and post ,a fit and firing foley and an influx of young enthusiastic recruits we can go better than last year.
I'm with you Gigantor.
We won't be as bad as most people think. I'm not expecting a finals berth, but don't think we'll grab the spoon.
Riewoldt, Collins, Cotchin, Connors, Rance have all had a taste and are coming into their third and fourth years. Connors still has question marks, but if he can knuckle down and give us 8-10 performances like the Hawks game a couple years back, that'll help.
I have a feeling Riewoldt will explode. I am expecting Hardwicks gameplan to deliver more than 20 Inside 50s per game, so he'll see plenty of it. Though it was minor, I liked the picture of Riewoldt, Pendlebury and Neon Leon in the HUN a couple of days back. Jack is wearing the Tiger polo, shows me that he is a proud tiger. The Collingscum players were just in casual clothes.
The players that are getting chopped are all rubbish, and there are still a few guys on the list that need to go as well, but contracts are keeping them there.
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We'll be a young side don't forget and the home/away season is a 22 week marathon. A few injuries to key players and it'll make things tough. I won't be surprised if we are spoon favourites. The more important thing is where we'll be in 2012/13 rather than 2010. As I said in the training thread, the coaching staff are fully aware it won't be a quick turnaround.
11 Tigers are definitely gone and there's a chance another may go by Friday.
Polak?
That is 4 failed big guys gone so far.
Leaves us a bit light on in that department.
Yeah I'm guessing it's Polak as well WAT but can't be sure. It may or may not happen going by what I was told. Polly was at training today apparently so we'll find out for certain on Friday.
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(4) Raines (Traded) 1
(7) Brown 2
(11) Bowden (Retired) 3
(15) Pettifer 4
(16) Pattison 5
(19) Putt 6
(22) Oakley-Nicholls 7
(24) Coughlan 8
(25) Schulz (Traded) 9
(28) Johnson (Retired) 10
(34) Hughes 11
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i can not wait untill the other players are offically Delisted! lol!
so expecting "7" players delisted (Brown and Coughlan, we now but) from the above list and from what Mr "MT" said another player could be gone.
i think that could be Polak.
not sure about the Rookies, however i expect Silvester "The Cat" to be delisted.
funny how Pettifer and Putt were training yesterday, mentioned in the Training forum.
:)
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I think we might give Silvestor 1 more year. If Hardwick can get some speed into him, he'll be alright.
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funny how Pettifer and Putt were training yesterday, mentioned in the Training forum.
I think that was a case of mistaken identity. The BF poster mistook Vickery with his cropped hair for Putt.
Just thinking a bit more on Polak - didn't the news story the other day (by Caro? ) say we intend to delist Polly and then re-draft him as a mature rookie? So that could be the other delisting.
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There's a final list lodgement after the draft for us to delist players?
I would have thought we'd wait til we see who we get in the draft and who's left before we make a decision on cutting Polak
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There's a final list lodgement after the draft for us to delist players?
I would have thought we'd wait til we see who we get in the draft and who's left before we make a decision on cutting Polak
True that's the 3rd and final list lodgement after the National draft but before the PSD/rookie draft. The Club though has said it'll discuss Polak's future with him and his management this week.
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Saw this on BF.
Patto: Have you left yet and what date do you leave? (Yesterday at 5.27pm)
Cleve: I'm leavin next wednesday so I'm gunna need to see you soon Ol Friend. few of the boys for a dinner or something??? (Yesterday at 5.41pm)
http://www.stuff.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=546441030&ref=mf
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I wonder if Cleve will get a game with the Norwood 1sts?
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I think we might give Silvestor 1 more year. If Hardwick can get some speed into him, he'll be alright.
If Silvestor aint quick at 25 he won't be much quicker under Hardwick.
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Polak and Silvester delisted.
Also JON, Patto, Hughes, Pettifer and Putt to go along with Bowden, Brown, Cogs, Johnson, Raines and Schulz.
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13. Good turn over. :cheers
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I think SEN said we plan to pick up Polak as a rookie.
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I think SEN said we plan to pick up Polak as a rookie.
yeah that's the plan - let's hope no-one picks him up before we do
Struth on this occassion you'd think the AFL could have given us dispensation to put him down on the rookie list seeing they've change the mature age rookie rules without having to de-list him ....
What's the likes of Damien Barrett gonna write about now ;D
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Graham Polak delisted by Richmond, who retain option of redrafting him as mature-aged rookie
* Jon Ralph
* From: Herald Sun
* October 30, 2009 1:09PM
RICHMOND today delisted accident victim Graham Polak but still has the option of redrafting him as a mature-aged rookie.
As revealed exclusively in the Herald Sun, the Tigers have had to delist Polak before they consider making him a rookie.
It will give rival clubs the chance to swoop on Polak, who made a remarkable recovery after being hit by a tram in late June last year.
But it is likely Polak will again be at Punt Road next year under new rules which allow rookies to be drafted regardless of their age or experience.
Richmond general manager of football, Craig Cameron, said yesterday the club was hopeful of keeping him around at the club.
"We will investigate the opportunity of offering Graham Polak a position on our rookie list through the 2009 Rookie Draft, but this will obviously not be confirmed until after the draft has taken place'', he said.
The club said a decision on Matthew Richardsons' playing future was expected to be made in the coming weeks.
Richmond has selections 3, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67, 72 and 83 in the 2009 National Draft, which will be held on Thursday, November 26.
The club also confirmed top-20 draft pick Adam Pattison had been delisted after failing to come on as a ruckman or forward.
Also delisted were Nathan Brown, Mark Coughlan, Cleve Hughes, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Kayne Pettifer, Dean Putt and Jarrod Silvester.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/graham-polak-delisted-by-richmond-who-retain-option-of-redrafting-him-as-mature-aged-rookie/story-e6frf9jf-1225792789650
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Do we know anything about the rookie elevations yet? Oops, edit, saw on the AFL site that Nahas and Browne have been elevated.
That's six talls gone from the list - gonna be interesting to see where we replace all those guys from.
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Polak in limbo as Richmond axes nine players
By Jason Phelan 1:41 PM Fri 30 October, 2009
RICHMOND has delisted Graham Polak after he failed to convince the club he could make a regular contribution at AFL level next season.
Polak, 25, played the last two games of the season in his fight back from life-threatening injuries sustained in a June 2008 tram accident, but was one of nine players officially cut by the club on Friday ahead of the first list lodgment deadline.
Former first-round pick Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls has also been shown the door after just 13 games, while Cleve Hughes, Nathan Brown, Mark Coughlan, Kayne Pettifer, Adam Pattison, Dean Putt and Jarrod Silvester round out the cull.
Joel Bowden and Kane Johnson retired earlier in the year and Andrew Raines and Jay Schulz were traded out in a huge reshuffle at Punt Road ahead of Damien Hardwick's first year in charge.
Richmond general manager of football Craig Cameron said the club would attempt to take advantage of the AFL's new rules which would allow Polak to be added to the rookie list as a mature-age player.
"We will investigate the opportunity of offering Graham a position on our rookie list through the 2009 rookie draft," Cameron said. "But obviously this will not be confirmed until after the draft has taken place.
"We thank these players for the contributions they have made at Richmond and we wish them all the best for the future."
Small forward Robin Nahas and ruckman Andrew Browne have been elevated to the senior list after making their debuts in 2009.
Former Port Adelaide defender Mitchell Farmer joined the club during the recent exchange period.
Richmond now has selections three, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67, 72 and 83 in the 2009 NAB AFL Draft, which will be held on Thursday, November 26.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86543/default.aspx
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I think this is right. We'll have 7 National draft picks plus a PSD pick.
Out:
1 Veteran list: Bowden
11 Senior list: Johnson, Brown, Coughlan, Raines, Schulz, Pettifer, JON, Pattison, Hughes, Putt, Polak
3 Rookie list: Silvester, Nahas (promoted), Browne (promoted)
In:
3 Senior list: Farmer, Nahas (promoted rookie), Browne (promoted rookie)
2 Rookie list: O'Reilly, Polak
So that leaves us with 8 senior list spots free and 3 rookie list spots free (4 rookie spots if Polak isn't redrafted)
National draft picks: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67, 72
Preseason Draft: 2
Rookie Draft: 7, 24, 41, (58)
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13 changes. Hardwick is the first Richmond coach in 25 years to understand what needs to be done to get Richmond back on top. 13 is a fantastic amount of change. Next year there will be more change and the final set of list cloggers will be out. Hardwick is off and running, he has made a very good start. Very pleased with the 13 number, 15 or 16 would have been better, especially if Tuck and McMahon and King had been cut, but alas, contracts are in place. They have 12 months to save themselves, which I doubt.
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Firstly he keeps all the draft picks and doesnt resist the tempation to recruit other teams hacks through trade week then he delists 13 players.
He has started well and done exactly what the 2 previous fools failed to do.
Lets hope we dont finish 9th or 10th again so he doesnt get sucked in again with the top up mentality
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smashing effort!!
means nothing if you don't draft and develop well though...
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Interesting to see if we really do redraft Polly as a mature rookie. Hardwick has said there's no sentiment in footy. I would doubt another club will jump in and take him so all the squealing of shame Richmond on SEN by Rita ::) was crying about nothing. So I guess it comes downs to who and what type of players (how many KPPs) we pick up in the National draft and PSD. Demoting Polly to the rookie list doesn't give you the impression the those at the Club are confident themselves that he will be a long-term player for us. We can't let emotion affect list management decisions no matter how courageous a player is.
As for the amount of changes themselves the Club has done well. The axe has been swung and most likely will be swung again this time next year. Up now to our recruiters and then our development coaches to do their job right.
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SEN just said, although Richmond won't say it officially, unofficially the word is it is highly likely the Tigers will pick up Polak in the rookie draft as a mature rookie. So Polly will still be at Punt Rd next year.
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Official statement from the Club...
Richmond list changes
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 30 October, 2009
Richmond has officially confirmed changes to its playing list ahead of the 2009 Draft Period.
Richmond General Manager of Football, Craig Cameron, said: “We thank these players for the contributions they have made at Richmond and we wish them all the best for the future.”
“We will investigate the opportunity of offering Graham Polak a position on our rookie list through the 2009 Rookie Draft, but obviously this will not be confirmed until after the draft has taken place,” he said.
Richmond has selections 3, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67, 72 and 83 in the 2009 National Draft, which will be held on Thursday November 26.
Retirements
Joel Bowden (265 career games, 177 career goals)
Kane Johnson (220 games, 76 goals)
Delistings
Nathan Brown (219 games, 360 goals)
Mark Coughlan (92 games, 39 goals)
Cleve Hughes (16 games, 23 goals)
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (13 games, 1 goal)
Kayne Pettifer (113 games, 132 goals)
Adam Pattison (61 games, 15 goals)
Graham Polak (35 games, 25 goals)
Dean Putt (0 games)
Jarrod Silvester (5 games)
Traded out
Andrew Raines (to Brisbane - 56 games, 1 goal)
Jay Schulz (to Port Adelaide - 71 games, 51 goals)
Traded in
Mitchell Farmer (from Port Adelaide)
Rookie Elevations
Andrew Browne
Robin Nahas
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/86544/default.aspx
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Can Polak nominate just for the Rookie Draft?
Or does he have to nominate for the National Draft or the PSD first before he can be rookied?
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Can Polak nominate just for the Rookie Draft?
Or does he have to nominate for the National Draft or the PSD first before he can be rookied?
Not sure Con. Wasn't there some rule you had to nominate for the draft first to be eligible or has that changed? I know there's a delisted player draft nomination deadline on Dec 8 just prior to the PSD.
Polly may nominate for all drafts anyway for his own sake. We've made no guarantees to him apart from saying "most likely we'll redraft you as a rookie".
I hope we don't do something silly and use our first rookie pick on him out of some paranoid fear another club may grab him. If he's not around at our last rookie pick then we should just move on.
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Can Polak nominate just for the Rookie Draft?
Or does he have to nominate for the National Draft or the PSD first before he can be rookied?
He can skip the National Draft if he wants, I think he needs to be in both the PSD & Rookie Draft
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I hope we don't do something silly and use our first rookie pick on him out of some paranoid fear another club may grab him. If he's not around at our last rookie pick then we should just move on.
You get the impression that that is not the case and if someone else did pick him they'd just wish him all best. I'd like to think that if they wanted him that bad they wouldn't have delisted him to start with.
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Great clean out, really good to see, Polak must be given another chance and I think we will do it, other clubs will not touch him as an agreement will be made between clubs that this is the best for his rehab... IMO!!
Now Jackstar, plenty of room on our list for some hacks.... :lol
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Do we know anything about the rookie elevations yet? Oops, edit, saw on the AFL site that Nahas and Browne have been elevated.
That's six talls gone from the list - gonna be interesting to see where we replace all those guys from.
Who really cares??? They were and are all crap.
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smashing effort!!
means nothing if you don't draft and develop well though...
Correct. And that will be our biggest and realist test. Its very, very easy to offload people, but to draft the correct people and then to develop that talent appropriately is the real magic. We have failed in this capacity for various reasons for a very long time. Time will tell us if we have truly handled this deficiency.
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hope our new draft picks dont end playing most of the season in the coburg magoos....what a waste that will be..again
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hope our new draft picks dont end playing most of the season in the coburg magoos....what a waste that will be..again
Dead right, at least 2-4 must play this year IMO, otherwise we should have recruited more experienced players... ;)
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hope our new draft picks dont end playing most of the season in the coburg magoos....what a waste that will be..again
Dead right, at least 2-4 must play this year IMO, otherwise we should have recruited more experienced players... ;)
Where's that 'stirring the pot' smiliey?
:jump
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Do we know anything about the rookie elevations yet? Oops, edit, saw on the AFL site that Nahas and Browne have been elevated.
That's six talls gone from the list - gonna be interesting to see where we replace all those guys from.
Who really cares??? They were and are all crap.
Sadly so true RR :-\
Patto: in-between tall. Not a KPP and not a ruckman.
Schulz: 7 years and never came on. Still the same player he was when he was 19.
Putt: a small in a KPPs body. Preferred playing wing than down the spine. Lacked the required intensity.
Hughes: No intensity. Off-field issues.
Silvester: Good VFL player but not AFL standard. Too slow.
Polak: to be rookied. Was no certainty before the accident. I think his attitude and showing desperation on the field is why the Club is giving him a chance on the rookie list.
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13 Players Out (12 maybe - Polak)
is this the biggest Clean Out?
:)
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13 Players Out (12 maybe - Polak)
is this the biggest Clean Out?
:)
It is in my memory but I suffer from Korsakoff's syndrome.
:cheers
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Excellent result and hpefully by this time next year half of the senior list at round 22 2009 will have been delisted, retired, moved on, shown the door and sent on their merry way. Hardwick has done what is required. Well done to him. Finally a plan that a senior coach can honestly believe in rather than worrying what the board will do and say..... Well done Dimma keep up the good work. Now teach those left some skills if they can be taught. :thumbsup
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It is in my memory but I suffer from Korsakoff's syndrome.
Then i would suggest you eat more brown rice. Some would also say drink less,but ...naaahh. Perhaps just drinks Coopers which still has yeast in it?
:cheers
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Graham Polak axed but likely to return to Punt Rd via rookie list
Jon Ralph | October 30, 2009 11:30pm
ONLY an unlikely approach from a rival club will prevent Richmond from rookie-listing Graham Polak later this year despite the Tigers delisting him yesterday.
New rules allowing clubs to rookie-list mature players regardless of their age or experience have come at the perfect time for Polak.
The 25-year-old will have to wait until the December 15 rookie draft, but Richmond has assured him it will pick him up again.
Polak recovered from a collision with a tram last year to return to senior football with Richmond, but the chances of another club selecting him in the national draft are slim.
As revealed by the Herald Sun early this month, the club has preferred Troy Simmonds to Adam Pattison which means the former No. 16 draft pick has been delisted.
In all nine players have been axed, including Nathan Brown, Mark Coughlan, Cleve Hughes, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Kayne Pettifer, Dean Putt and Jarrod Silvester.
With former captain Kane Johnson and dual Jack Dyer medallist Joel Bowden retiring and Jay Schulz traded for Port Adelaide's Mitch Farmer, Richmond's list has undergone a massive overhaul.
Small forward Robin Nahas and young ruckman Andrew Browne have been elevated to the primary list.
Mature-aged rookie Silvester had played some solid games at stuff, while high draft picks Hughes, Schulz and Oakley-Nicholls never flourished.
Richmond's general manager of football Craig Cameron was coy on the club's chances of rookie-listing Polak, but the club has already given him assurances it will retain him.
"We will investigate the opportunity of offering Graham Polak a position on our rookie list through the 2009 rookie draft, but obviously this will not be confirmed until after the draft has taken place," Cameron said.
Richmond is expected to take young Victorian midfielder Dustin Martin with its No. 3 pick in the national draft, and also has picks 19, 35, 44, 51, 67, 72 and 83.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/sport/afl/story/0,26547,26284779-5016212,00.html
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The more i see the shocking state our list had been left at the angrier i have become with terry and all his sidekicks and everyone at the club.
In the five years didnt anyone review plans ,goals and aspirations,or werent the people doing that capable of that task
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The more i see the shocking state our list had been left at the angrier i have become with terry and all his sidekicks and everyone at the club.
In the five years didnt anyone review plans ,goals and aspirations,or werent the people doing that capable of that task
They werent capable of the tasks as they didnt know what was required.
There were no KPI,s and staff were managed extremely poorly,
The signing of Jordon McMahon and the resigning of Jay Schulz were evidence of the above.
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Our current list in terms of age, games played and height......
Richmond
35: Richo (282)
31: Cousins (253), Simmonds (190)
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28: Tuck (110)
27: Newman (154)
26: McMahon (148 ), King (41), Moore (65)
25: -
24: Foley (84)
23: Jackson (69), Polo (52), Thomson (30), Thursfield (53), McGuane (54), Morton (50), Tambling (95)
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22: Deledio (106), Graham (18 ), White (54), Nahas (19)
21: Hislop (19), Collins (10), Connors (10), Edwards (47), Riewoldt (46), Gourdis# (-)
20: Post (7), Rance (15), Farmer (3)
19: Cotchin (25), Vickery (9), Browne (1), Gilligan# (-)
Oldies: 3
Prime: 13
Youth: 17
Rucks (4): Browne (205), Graham (200), Vickery (200), Simmonds (197)
Big Talls (3): Richo (195), Post (194), Gourdis# (194)
Talls (5): Rance (192), Riewoldt (192), McGuane (191), Thursfield (191), Moore (189)
Tall-mids (5 ): Deledio (189), Tuck (189), Jackson (187), Polo (187), McMahon (186)
Midsize-mids (7): Cotchin (185), Hislop (185), Morton (185), Collins (184), Connors (184), Thomson (184), Newman (183)
Small-mids (9): Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), King (174)
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Patto could end up with Schulz at Port Adelaide
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-looks-at-tigersruckman/story-e6frf9jf-1225794295592
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Patto could end up with Schulz at Port Adelaide
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-looks-at-tigersruckman/story-e6frf9jf-1225794295592
Port are picking up heaps of there abouts players the last few years. Trying to find something on the cheap. I dont get it as a strategy, it rarely pays off. Fringe players from other teams well maybe this is the year for fringe players with a weak draft.
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Patto could end up with Schulz at Port Adelaide
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-looks-at-tigersruckman/story-e6frf9jf-1225794295592
Port are picking up heaps of there abouts players the last few years. Trying to find something on the cheap. I dont get it as a strategy, it rarely pays off. Fringe players from other teams well maybe this is the year for fringe players with a weak draft.
They will have to change their name to the Port Tigers soon if they pick up Patto.. :whistle
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2010 club lists as they stand
By Matt Burgan 6:10 PM Fri 13 November, 2009
RICHMOND
1. Browne, Andrew
2. Collins, Andrew
3. Connors, Daniel
4. Cotchin, Trent
5. Cousins, Ben
6. Deledio, Brett
7. Edwards, Shane
8. Farmer, Mitch
9. Foley, Nathan
10. Graham, Angus
11. Hislop, Tom
12. Jackson, Daniel
13. King, Jake
14. McGuane, Luke
15. McMahon, Jordan
16. Moore, Kelvin
17. Morton, Mitch
18. Nahas, Robin
19. Newman, Chris
20. Polo, Dean
21. Post, Jayden
22. Rance, Alex
23. Riewoldt, Jack
24. Simmonds, Troy
25. Tambling, Richard
26. Thomson, Adam
27. Thursfield, Will
28. Tuck, Shane
29. Vickery, Tyrone
30. White, Matthew
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Rookie list
1. Gilligan, Alroy
2. Gourdis, David
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ADDITIONS
Exchange period: Mitch Farmer (Port Adelaide)
Rookie elevation: Andrew Browne, Robin Nahas
DELETIONS
Retired: Joel Bowden (veteran - outside list), Kane Johnson, Matthew Richardson (veteran - outside list, second list lodgement)
Exchange period: Andrew Raines (Brisbane Lions), Jay Schulz (Port Adelaide)
Delisted: Nathan G. Brown, Mark Coughlan, Cleve Hughes, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Graham Polak, Dean Putt, Jarrod Silvester (rookie)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86555/default.aspx
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Well the broom has done its job. All up 14 gone in one whack. One third of the 2009 playing list :o.
Do something similar next year then within one year Hardwick will cleared the decks of the deadwood (excluding retirees).
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Well the broom has done its job. All up 14 gone in one whack. One third of the 2009 playing list :o.
Do something similar next year then within one year Hardwick will cleared the decks of the deadwood (excluding retirees).
13 if we bring Polak back but who is counting.
Still a massive cleanout.
:thumbsup
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Well the broom has done its job. All up 14 gone in one whack. One third of the 2009 playing list :o.
Do something similar next year then within one year Hardwick will cleared the decks of the deadwood (excluding retirees).
13 if we bring Polak back but who is counting.
Still a massive cleanout.
:thumbsup
That's true diciannove sessantacinque ;). Tredici not always an unlucky number.
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do we think Richmond will draft eight 17-18 year olds, then six Rookies one including Polak?
:)
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do we think Richmond will draft eight 17-18 year olds, then six Rookies one including Polak?
:)
Yeah, stacking up while they can. May take one recycled player in PSD I would guess
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We might take some 20somethings with our later picks.
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I think we will take a few 17 - 18 yo but will pick up another 1 or 2 20 to 22 yo - like Nahas, Dalziel, Anthony etc...just have to find the hidden gems...
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I think we will take a few 17 - 18 yo but will pick up another 1 or 2 20 to 22 yo - like Nahas, Dalziel, Anthony etc...just have to find the hidden gems...
All they need to do is look at the OER phantom draft! ;D
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Our current list in terms of age, games played and height......
Richmond
35: Richo (282)
31: Cousins (253), Simmonds (190)
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28: Tuck (110)
27: Newman (154)
26: McMahon (148 ), King (41), Moore (65)
25: -
24: Foley (84)
23: Jackson (69), Polo (52), Thomson (30), Thursfield (53), McGuane (54), Morton (50), Tambling (95)
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22: Deledio (106), Graham (18 ), White (54), Nahas (19)
21: Hislop (19), Collins (10), Connors (10), Edwards (47), Riewoldt (46), Gourdis# (-)
20: Post (7), Rance (15), Farmer (3)
19: Cotchin (25), Vickery (9), Browne (1), Gilligan# (-)
Oldies: 3
Prime: 13
Youth: 17
Rucks (4): Browne (205), Graham (200), Vickery (200), Simmonds (197)
Big Talls (3): Richo (195), Post (194), Gourdis# (194)
Talls (5): Rance (192), Riewoldt (192), McGuane (191), Thursfield (191), Moore (189)
Tall-mids (5 ): Deledio (189), Tuck (189), Jackson (187), Polo (187), McMahon (186)
Midsize-mids (7): Cotchin (185), Hislop (185), Morton (185), Collins (184), Connors (184), Thomson (184), Newman (183)
Small-mids (9): Edwards (180), Farmer (180), Tambling (180), Cousins (179), White (179), Foley (177), Gilligan# (177), Nahas (176), King (174)
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Well the broom has done its job. All up 14 gone in one whack. One third of the 2009 playing list :o.
Do something similar next year then within one year Hardwick will cleared the decks of the deadwood (excluding retirees).
Its what needed to be done.
By this time next yeare the rest of the list cloggers will be gone barring miracle seasons and in an 18 month period from Aug 09 to March 11 our selected 22 will be virtually unrecognisable. Exciting times ahead I hope. :pray
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You're right Tucky. We needed a quick turnover of the list so if Hardwick does the same thing this time next year we can't complain. The key now is draft the right kids and develop them.
I think we will take a few 17 - 18 yo but will pick up another 1 or 2 20 to 22 yo - like Nahas, Dalziel, Anthony etc...just have to find the hidden gems...
I think we'll go that way too Con with 7 picks. Didn't we have recruiter in WA this year? It wouldn't surprise me if we pick a 20-22 y.o. WAFL player with one of our late picks.