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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 02, 2009, 01:29:41 AM
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Not on the web but in the Herald-Sun today Jon Ralph says "As the club begins the cleanout of its list, Tigers star Matthew Richardson has also been given a month to go away and consider his future before returning with a decision."
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For Richmond to go forward, Richo must do the honorable & retire.
He has faults with his kicking + injuries & culture must change.
Thanks for the great service big fella but your time is now
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Putting the ball in Richo's court. Don't mind that at all. :thumbsup
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Putting the ball in Richo's court. Don't mind that at all. :thumbsup
and thats wrong, still shows the club has not found its balls
they should just tell richo, we love ya mate, u r always welcome here, but its time to go
thanks but we are moving fwd
its not that hard to do and will show that no player is bigger than the team! or club!
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Yep Richo must put the team first and retire.
We love him but we can't afford to have players who dont tackle, block and shepherd for each other in the team.
He has done a lot of good things but that cancer that spreads through the team cant be tolerated anymore.
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I meant that he gets to consider himself in regards to his body condition, rather than making a hasty decision. I would hope that if he decides he wants to go on, that's not the end of it and he and Hardwick then sit down with and he outlines what he expects from Richo before a one-year extension.
It'll be an interesting one.
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A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.
We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.
With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.
If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.
He needs to stay for 1 more year.
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A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.
We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.
With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.
If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.
He needs to stay for 1 more year.
jack riiewoldt used to be a beautiful kick
training along side richo, and his kicking has turned to poo
richo is part a big part of why we have been so poo and failures
WE NEED A MASSIVE CLEANOUT b4 all our kids get the cancer
its time to let richo go end of story
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A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.
We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.
With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.
If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.
He needs to stay for 1 more year.
absolutely PL, couldn't agree more and Id hope that the club would encourage him in that regard as would appear from outside looking in , that it is polar opposite ???
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A much needed player next year even if he doesnt get on the aprk.
We'll have a horribly depleted list experience wise and Richo needs to be there.
With 8-12 players going outside of Richo's retirement with 6-8 new 17/28 year olds. Those kids would benefit greatly with Richo being there for 1 more year.
If somehow we get Butcher and he is training with Richo he'd benefit greatly.
He needs to stay for 1 more year.
jack riiewoldt used to be a beautiful kick
training along side richo, and his kicking has turned to poo
richo is part a big part of why we have been so poo and failures
WE NEED A MASSIVE CLEANOUT b4 all our kids get the cancer
its time to let richo go end of story
Oh come off it, that's a pretty long bow to draw there
You sure it's not Richo's fault that theres kids in the childrens hospital with cancer too?
Riewoldts kicking action is fine, he just lacks confidence, not sure how that's Richo's fault. Especially given Richo hasn't been playing with him all year.
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Richo is honest and will play on if he thinks he is right and will move on if he doesnt
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Richo is honest and will play on if he thinks he is right and will move on if he doesnt
what he thinks and feels may be so far from the actual fact
so what he thinks should not even come into play
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Nothing wrong with giving him a 1-year deal. Like I've always said I think he's got plenty to offer, it gives us the option of giving a young fwd the second best tall defender. It would be quite compelling if young players looked around and saw Richo & Cousins as the only two survivors and set the bar as to what is required if you want to play AFL past 30.
I understand that supporters want the new regime to make a statement, but chopping Richo is a negative one IMHO.
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The club need and want him to retire, but they want it to be his decision for several reasons. 1. Respect, 2. They don't want a supporter backlash if they can avoid it. If Richo decides to go himself then the supporters will go quietly into the night and order will reign. If the club really wanted Richo to stay on for another year he would ALREADY be signed. This is the football equivalant of Hari Kari takes a little time and courage to perform the act.
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The club need and want him to retire,
Really?
And what other pearls of wisdom from the club can you regale us with?
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I think it would be best for all concerned if Richo retires. While he may produce his best form in a handful of games, history tells us that at his age and with his past, he will suffer further injuries next year.
Richo would also be taking the place of a new recruit who could be a good player into our future rather than an excellent one for only one year. He could hold back the development of our forward line because instinctual he would demand the ball from our midfielders robbing the other forwards of delivery. On the wing he would take the place of a midfielder and delay the development of building a core unit of young talent.
Lastly is, and will always be remembered as, a star player with incredible natural talent and athleticism plus he is an all round nice guy...but Richo doesn't know how to play as part of a team. He knows how to inspire it and gain respect from it but not do the team orientated acts, the 1%, that will help his team shine rather than himself shine. He hasn't got a defensive side to his game - he very rarely ever tackles - and struggles with the concept of shepherding, blocking, dummy leading or pulling out of a contest when a team mates is in a better position.
Richo is not coach, teacher, developer or leader. He loves the club with all his heart and will try and fight for victory off his own boot/actions until he collapses but he just doesn't understand how to make the players around him better and sadly for Richo that's what we now need most.
Stripes
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I think that he has had his time in the sun and now he should leave it to the young ones.
He isn't recovering as quick now and this is making our list one short a lot of the time.
So I think it is time to hang up the boots, and call it a day.
We could pick up a good recruit with the money being paid to him.
So Thanks for your time at Tigerland mate.
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I think it would be best for all concerned if Richo retires. While he may produce his best form in a handful of games, history tells us that at his age and with his past, he will suffer further injuries next year.
Richo would also be taking the place of a new recruit who could be a good player into our future rather than an excellent one for only one year. He could hold back the development of our forward line because instinctual he would demand the ball from our midfielders robbing the other forwards of delivery. On the wing he would take the place of a midfielder and delay the development of building a core unit of young talent.
Lastly is, and will always be remembered as, a star player with incredible natural talent and athleticism plus he is an all round nice guy...but Richo doesn't know how to play as part of a team. He knows how to inspire it and gain respect from it but not do the team orientated acts, the 1%, that will help his team shine rather than himself shine. He hasn't got a defensive side to his game - he very rarely ever tackles - and struggles with the concept of shepherding, blocking, dummy leading or pulling out of a contest when a team mates is in a better position.
Richo is not coach, teacher, developer or leader. He loves the club with all his heart and will try and fight for victory off his own boot/actions until he collapses but he just doesn't understand how to make the players around him better and sadly for Richo that's what we now need most.
Stripes
that is exactly right, you have been reading my posts again :thumbsup
whilst Richo is not part of the problem he doesnt help it with his lack of defensive pressure shown throughout games.
I have seen Richo hold his hands up demanding the ball instead of tackle opponents.
We dont need that in our team anymore, we have put up with it for 30 stuffin years.
if you cant tackle or kick a ball effectively then your out.
sorry Richo but its a big no from me pal.
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The club letting Richo decide is the wrong way to go about it, cause we know Richo is selfish
Sydney game he said he was right to play & brokedown early & cost us the game
IMO it was a selfish act & opting out of that game with injury would have given someone else a chance, even if it was Shulzs or Hughes
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The club letting Richo decide is the wrong way to go about it, cause we know Richo is selfish
yeah, bloody selfish of one of the greatest players of the modern era to remain at richmond for his entire career with minimal prospect of realising premiereship ambitions ::)...Have a think about it partner before throwing loose insults about, it disgusts me :-\
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have a cry ;D his a selfish player & spits the dummy when he cant get his own way.
Everyone knew he wouldnot come up for the Sydney game & he insisted on playing.
Cost us the game as far as l'm concerned & is not fair on his team-mates to carry him when his 40%
Been a problem at Richmond for many years injured players putting themselves 1st instead of doing whats best for the team.
is why we are so pathetic & if you cant see that then your deluded & except poor performances ;D
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Richo should definately go on! End of story!
Sounds to me like half you nuffys have been reading to much crap in the papers.
"Richo doesn't sheppard", "Richo is not a teacher," "the club is bigger than the individual," bla bla, bla!
The facts are we still need him, we are pathetic and Richo is a star and still in our top 3 players.
If he can get that hammy right he could not only play next year but another couple maybe. Remember Cuz has got his hammy right and ended up playing pretty good footy. Just goes to show you that not everyone over 30 should be put down.
As somebody else said, if Richo is in the side he gets the best backmen, giving our other forwards a better chance of getting a kick. That helps everyone! I'm sure if you ask Jack he would prefer to play on a Darren Milburn than a Matthew Scarlett!
Not everyone in our side is going to get 10 tackles a game or get 30 kicks but thats why we have different players in the side that do different things, (taggers, in-side mids, out-side mids forwqards, backs, etc) what Richo brings no one else can at the moment and thats why our club should encourage him to go on.
Now if you prefer to watch Shultz or Hughes run around the next few years than God help you, we are going to struggle for a few more years yet and if that is the case i would at least like to watch a superstar footballer and bloke in Richo.
Whatever happens i have enjoyed watching Richo more than any other player at Tigerland!
Richo you are a STAR!
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Richo should definately go on! End of story!
Sounds to me like half you nuffys have been reading to much crap in the papers.
"Richo doesn't sheppard", "Richo is not a teacher," "the club is bigger than the individual," bla bla, bla!
The facts are we still need him, we are pathetic and Richo is a star and still in our top 3 players.
If he can get that hammy right he could not only play next year but another couple maybe. Remember Cuz has got his hammy right and ended up playing pretty good footy. Just goes to show you that not everyone over 30 should be put down.
As somebody else said, if Richo is in the side he gets the best backmen, giving our other forwards a better chance of getting a kick. That helps everyone! I'm sure if you ask Jack he would prefer to play on a Darren Milburn than a Matthew Scarlett!
Not everyone in our side is going to get 10 tackles a game or get 30 kicks but thats why we have different players in the side that do different things, (taggers, in-side mids, out-side mids forwqards, backs, etc) what Richo brings no one else can at the moment and thats why our club should encourage him to go on.
Now if you prefer to watch Shultz or Hughes run around the next few years than God help you, we are going to struggle for a few more years yet and if that is the case i would at least like to watch a superstar footballer and bloke in Richo.
Whatever happens i have enjoyed watching Richo more than any other player at Tigerland!
Richo you are a STAR!
haha how much VALUE did Richo give Richmond this year ;D ZERO
Next year older & wonky he will give ZERO ;D
Dont you understand a player of his size with serious injuries cannot go on
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Richo should definately go on! End of story!
Sounds to me like half you nuffys have been reading to much crap in the papers.
"Richo doesn't sheppard", "Richo is not a teacher," "the club is bigger than the individual," bla bla, bla!
The facts are we still need him, we are pathetic and Richo is a star and still in our top 3 players.
If he can get that hammy right he could not only play next year but another couple maybe. Remember Cuz has got his hammy right and ended up playing pretty good footy. Just goes to show you that not everyone over 30 should be put down.
As somebody else said, if Richo is in the side he gets the best backmen, giving our other forwards a better chance of getting a kick. That helps everyone! I'm sure if you ask Jack he would prefer to play on a Darren Milburn than a Matthew Scarlett!
Not everyone in our side is going to get 10 tackles a game or get 30 kicks but thats why we have different players in the side that do different things, (taggers, in-side mids, out-side mids forwqards, backs, etc) what Richo brings no one else can at the moment and thats why our club should encourage him to go on.
Now if you prefer to watch Shultz or Hughes run around the next few years than God help you, we are going to struggle for a few more years yet and if that is the case i would at least like to watch a superstar footballer and bloke in Richo.
Whatever happens i have enjoyed watching Richo more than any other player at Tigerland!
Richo you are a STAR!
haha how much VALUE did Richo give Richmond this year ;D ZERO
Next year older & wonky he will give ZERO ;D
Dont you understand a player of his size with serious injuries cannot go on
Thanks DR Tigermonk, but may leave the injury rehab to the experts.
Richo wasn't much value this year but he was injured, before his injury he was good. Just like he was pretty good the year before.
Richo like any other player old or young, if you get injured you are not much value. Going on your rationale, how much value was Cotch this year? Zero
Let me ask you one thing, IF Richo had had a year like last year would you be still wanting him to go?
Lets just give the big fella the chance of making it back, i'm pretty sure he deseves at least that.
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I think it's true that Richo doesn't shephard and he is by no means a teacher or a role model for young players.
But the fact is, he is the best contested mark in the comp and by god are we going to need that next season.
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Richo should definately go on! End of story!
Sounds to me like half you nuffys have been reading to much crap in the papers.
"Richo doesn't sheppard", "Richo is not a teacher," "the club is bigger than the individual," bla bla, bla!
The facts are we still need him, we are pathetic and Richo is a star and still in our top 3 players.
If he can get that hammy right he could not only play next year but another couple maybe. Remember Cuz has got his hammy right and ended up playing pretty good footy. Just goes to show you that not everyone over 30 should be put down.
As somebody else said, if Richo is in the side he gets the best backmen, giving our other forwards a better chance of getting a kick. That helps everyone! I'm sure if you ask Jack he would prefer to play on a Darren Milburn than a Matthew Scarlett!
Not everyone in our side is going to get 10 tackles a game or get 30 kicks but thats why we have different players in the side that do different things, (taggers, in-side mids, out-side mids forwqards, backs, etc) what Richo brings no one else can at the moment and thats why our club should encourage him to go on.
Now if you prefer to watch Shultz or Hughes run around the next few years than God help you, we are going to struggle for a few more years yet and if that is the case i would at least like to watch a superstar footballer and bloke in Richo.
Whatever happens i have enjoyed watching Richo more than any other player at Tigerland!
Richo you are a STAR!
haha how much VALUE did Richo give Richmond this year ;D ZERO
Next year older & wonky he will give ZERO ;D
Dont you understand a player of his size with serious injuries cannot go on
While arguments for and against Richo are compelling and correct I still think he needs to retire now for the good of the club. At 34 he is too old and recovery time will inhibit him further if he gets injured again. If he played the last half dozen or so games and had a great or even a good finish to the season I would possibly be thinking differently. However ifs buts maybes and what ifs are the past at the RFC with regards to list management must move on and attempt to sure up the long term future. Sorry champ I love you but you have to go. If you stay I'll support you but unfortunantely the writing is on the wall.
Of course Richo gave us more value than J Bowden could have if he played all 22 games this year. Oh wait a minute Joel Bowden should still be on the list should be captain, coach, chairman of selectors and everything else the club could bestow upon him. :whistle
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haha how much VALUE did Richo give Richmond this year ;D ZERO
Gave more than that hack Bowden did
:gotigers
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UNFKBLVBLE! You people are! Richo....runner up in the brownlow last year, was doing just fine till injury, can teach the young guys about working your guts out for the club, would not be a huge issue to keep on, the only bright spark in friggin YEARS of disappointment....VALUE??? you talk value?, Richos value is in much more than his on field performance(which in itself is enough IMO)
You armchair experts poo me with your bignoting and thinking you know better than the experts, i dont care who you are related to and how good your sons/daughters/whatevers are, bottom line is you dont know any more than this middle aged suburban mother of four, and that has been proved time and time again!
Richo and the club will know what to do and when to do it, doesnt need you bogans to "demand" his retirement now! >:(
Rant over :) :gotigers
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UNFKBLVBLE! You people are! Richo....runner up in the brownlow last year, was doing just fine till injury, can teach the young guys about working your guts out for the club, would not be a huge issue to keep on, the only bright spark in friggin YEARS of disappointment....VALUE??? you talk value?, Richos value is in much more than his on field performance(which in itself is enough IMO)
You armchair experts poo me with your bignoting and thinking you know better than the experts, i dont care who you are related to and how good your sons/daughters/whatevers are, bottom line is you dont know any more than this middle aged suburban mother of four, and that has been proved time and time again!
Richo and the club will know what to do and when to do it, doesnt need you bogans to "demand" his retirement now! >:(
Rant over :) :gotigers
Well said middle aged suburban mother of four :clapping
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Richo has said before he wants to go on hasn't he? If his upper hammy recovers fine then I don't see why he can't have one final year in 2010. He's a veteran listed player so he isn't taking up a senior list spot and only half his salary counts towards the cap. In what will be a difficult year for the club with or without him anyway if Richo can get through it relatively injury free and play 18 games then at least his 300th may give the club something to cheer about at the end of next season.
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When Richo went this year the Passion went, never seen a team go through the motions as much as we did, specially the last half of the year.
The team needs him at the very least to instill some of this back into them.
The month will be for him to judge how his injury is going.
Even if he plays a pinch hitter off the bench, what better player could you ask for that job.
Crucial to the development of the team and the mental heath of some of the supporters.
Based on his 2008 form and 2009 start, injuriy aside he can play for maybe another 2 even 3 years.
Age has nothing to do with it when it comes to Richo.
Hope he pulls together and if so I don't need to wish for him to stick it up a few it will just happen.
Go Richoman ....
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As great as richo is ,i think the club showed its intentions with regard to the remaining part of the season when they sent cotch and foley in for repair work.i think the RFC called it 'stumps' at that point of the season.
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UNFKBLVBLE! You people are! Richo....runner up in the brownlow last year, was doing just fine till injury, can teach the young guys about working your guts out for the club, would not be a huge issue to keep on, the only bright spark in friggin YEARS of disappointment....VALUE??? you talk value?, Richos value is in much more than his on field performance(which in itself is enough IMO)
You armchair experts poo me with your bignoting and thinking you know better than the experts, i dont care who you are related to and how good your sons/daughters/whatevers are, bottom line is you dont know any more than this middle aged suburban mother of four, and that has been proved time and time again!
Richo and the club will know what to do and when to do it, doesnt need you bogans to "demand" his retirement now! >:(
Rant over :) :gotigers
15 years he has been in the system and none of his work ethic has rubbed off yet so what makes you think its going to be any different going forward.
i trust Richo will know what to do but i laugh when you say "the club will know what to do and when to do it" Like they have such a great track record now dont they :thumbsup
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May of been the clubs intentions, but the players on the field were playing for their careers. They could of fooled me.
? Are you a spaceage robot, bigger than big?
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Richo has said before he wants to go on hasn't he? If his upper hammy recovers fine then I don't see why he can't have one final year in 2010. He's a veteran listed player so he isn't taking up a senior list spot and only half his salary counts towards the cap. In what will be a difficult year for the club with or without him anyway if Richo can get through it relatively injury free and play 18 games then at least his 300th may give the club something to cheer about at the end of next season.
I think he should go on.
I dont think he wants to go on.
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haha how much VALUE did Richo give Richmond this year ;D ZERO
Next year older & wonky he will give ZERO ;D
Dont you understand a player of his size with serious injuries cannot go on
I thought you were leaving
Shouldn't you at least be at the Joel Bowden circle at Birdie Num Nums?
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How many other clubs after nearly 30 years of mediocrity has supporters with so much passion as shown by the Richmond faihtful.We may differ as to what should be done ,but hey thats what a democracy is all about.After a poor season we richmond supporters can at least hold our heads high...congrats guys
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True Gigantor! The only problem is that sometimes that passion is misdirected!
Anyway, Richo should be given the oppurtunity to choose when he is leaving!
Some posters call him selfish for bad body language but to me Richo is just showing the frustration that the rest of the club should have been showing alot earlier in regard to our skill level!
Richo selfishly played one week after fracturing his cheek bone when the season was shot to pieces!
Richo selfishly decides to come back early against Sydney but anyone who has ever played the game outside of the kindergarten know that footballers at all levels do this more to help their mates on the field than to be selfish!
Richo has selfishly turned down offers from other clubs when others have left(read Brad Ottens).
He is just one big selfish, good for nothing unit who has wrecked his body for this club!
Just off the top of my head:
Reconstructed knee
Broken Cheek bone by 2
Broken arm
Broken foot
Hammy torn off the bone
Please add more acts of selfishness if i missed any :scream
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True Gigantor! The only problem is that sometimes that passion is misdirected!
Anyway, Richo should be given the oppurtunity to choose when he is leaving!
Some posters call him selfish for bad body language but to me Richo is just showing the frustration that the rest of the club should have been showing alot earlier in regard to our skill level!
Richo selfishly played one week after fracturing his cheek bone when the season was shot to pieces!
Richo selfishly decides to come back early against Sydney but anyone who has ever played the game outside of the kindergarten know that footballers at all levels do this more to help their mates on the field than to be selfish!
Richo has selfishly turned down offers from other clubs when others have left(read Brad Ottens).
He is just one big selfish, good for nothing unit who has wrecked his body for this club!
Just off the top of my head:
Reconstructed knee
Broken Cheek bone by 2
Broken arm
Broken foot
Hammy torn off the bone
Please add more acts of selfishness if i missed any :scream
Well said. Same 2JD.
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I don't think anyone here doesn't love what the big Richo has done for our club. He has been our marque player, the heart, soul and face of the club for over a decade but we need to think beyond an single player now and look at our club and team. We are all hoping for success and are hoping we can build a team that gives us that success. Regardless of what he has offered to us in the past we need to sit back now and dispassionately evaluate what he will offer us in the future.
At best he has one or two years left. We will be struggling to make the finals in that time let alone be reaching for a flag.
We are screaming out for our players to become team orientated ie work with and for each other, Richo doesn't do this.
We have the worst team defense in the league and Richo is the biggest culprit on our list.
We are trying to develop our forward line and change our culture - Richo has epitomized this culture for over a decade.
Richo could have gone elsewhere and he has given his all to win as many games as he can for our great club but he has always tried to do it alone. Richo is a great contested mark but he only every has eyes for the ball and has frequently injuried his team mates going for marks that they were in a better position position to take.
Richo is a great champion of the club but having him play next year serves little purpose for 2010 and absolutely none for our future.
I want Tigers to be a feared team and unfortunately Richo is only standing in the way of that. :(
Stripes
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haha how much VALUE did Richo give Richmond this year ;D ZERO
Next year older & wonky he will give ZERO ;D
Dont you understand a player of his size with serious injuries cannot go on
I thought you were leaving
Shouldn't you at least be at the Joel Bowden circle at Birdie Num Nums?
You should go to Birdie Num Nums, great place :thumbsup
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You should go to Birdie Num Nums, great place :thumbsup
yep great place good host :thumbsup ;D
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Good player Joel Bowden was ;D
Didnot see any Richmond players get picked as All-Australians this year, not even a emergency spot.
? was there any in last years squad ;D or the year before. Not many Richmond players are good enough to make All-Australians
Just goes to show the talent & hard workrate footballers have to work to get in the All-Australian squad.
Better still he did it 2 years in a row. So he must have been good, like Richo who done it 3 times l think ;D
Time to go Richo :thumbsup
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Richardson told to consider his future
John Barnes - Geelong Advertiser
September 3rd, 2009
RICHMOND superstar Matthew Richardson may only have a month to make a decision on his playing future.
It is my understanding the Tiger veteran and spiritual leader has been told to have a good think about whether he wants to go on next year after injury wrecked his 2009 campaign.
New coach Damien Hardwick has basically indicated that few are safe at Tigerland as he plans the mother of all culls.
The forthcoming clean out at Punt Rd will be unlike any other seen at an AFL club, with Hardwick set to take a sledgehammer to a large slice of the Tigers' underperforming list. Existing assistant coaches and fitness staff also face a nervous wait.
Richo has a month to think about his options but it's clear Hardwick has decided to make a statement.
He's definitely got the balls to do something like that. When he played, he was like a bull at a gate and something like giving Richo the flick wouldn't worry him either.
Andrew Raines is already on his way, along with Nathan Brown, Troy Simmonds and possibly Kayne Pettifer.
The question might be asked how could you cut a Simmonds when you don't have a ruckman? But Hardwick apparently doesn't like the way he plays. He wants an enforcer.
One thing about a Hardwick coached team is that it will be tough.
The new Tigers mentor does not like soft types and anyone who is anything but hard will either get the flick or spend most of 2010 at Coburg.
Richmond has picks 3, 19 and 35 at the beginning of this year's draft, so there is plenty of opportunity to add some talent and mould the type of side that Hardwick wants to preside over during the next three seasons and possibly beyond.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2009/09/03/100021_geelong_sports.html
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cant wait for that sledgehammer to strike March ;D
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cant wait for that sledgehammer to strike March ;D
Stronger off field than ever before in the past 30 years.
Picked a coach who has the cajones to sweep the place out and force a new culture to promote onfield success.
Yeah I can totally see the reasoning. ::)
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Better still he did it 2 years in a row. So he must have been good, like Richo who done it 3 times l think ;D
Time to go Richo :thumbsup
We can't continue to live off memories of players Monky. It's what they can do now and offer the team in the future.
I hope Hardwick can live up to the reputation he has developed and make the hard calls everyone is expecting :pray
Stripes
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cant wait for that sledgehammer to strike March ;D
Stronger off field than ever before in the past 30 years.
Picked a coach who has the cajones to sweep the place out and force a new culture to promote onfield success.
Yeah I can totally see the reasoning. ::)
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You think its March doing all the work down there ;D
The President only watches over those doing the work below him & takes the credit.
He be busy running his own buisness ventures during the day
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cant wait for that sledgehammer to strike March ;D
Stronger off field than ever before in the past 30 years.
Picked a coach who has the cajones to sweep the place out and force a new culture to promote onfield success.
Yeah I can totally see the reasoning. ::)
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You think its March doing all the work down there ;D
The President only watches over those doing the work below him & takes the credit.
He be busy running his own buisness ventures during the day
Not at all but he's the stable figurehead with a strong core of off-field professionals behind him. Until we start to see the effectiveness wane indicating March has done all he can, which may be at the end of his term next year, then yeah move on, but don't sledgehammer a man while all he is supposed to worry about is going so well. THat would be ridiculous.
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Better still he did it 2 years in a row. So he must have been good, like Richo who done it 3 times l think ;D
Time to go Richo :thumbsup
We can't continue to live off memories of players Monky. It's what they can do now and offer the team in the future.
I hope Hardwick can live up to the reputation he has developed and make the hard calls everyone is expecting :pray
Stripes
MEMORIES ;D
only memories l live off are those of the Grand Final sides of 67-69-73-74-80 :thumbsup the memories so sweat & players so great & football was football all on Saurday
there was biffs & bumps & rules you could understand & money was not a option.
MEMORIES DESTROYED :'(
Come 1982 & the demise of South Melbourne & that bitch from Crazyhorse distracting our players in 1982 GF saw the end to football & the beginning of greed & silly rules no-one can understand.
A AFL admin that is destroying the game & turning it into something we dont want but its pushed upon us as greed has the power & makes the world revolve round.
In 10 years time you will have playing diving on the ground rolling around acting & being rewarded like they do in World soccer :banghead
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cant wait for that sledgehammer to strike March ;D
Stronger off field than ever before in the past 30 years.
Picked a coach who has the cajones to sweep the place out and force a new culture to promote onfield success.
Yeah I can totally see the reasoning. ::)
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You think its March doing all the work down there ;D
The President only watches over those doing the work below him & takes the credit.
He be busy running his own buisness ventures during the day
Using that logic he should be immune to critisism
Or in your mind is it all of the blame, none of the credit?
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Not at all but he's the stable figurehead with a strong core of off-field professionals behind him. Until we start to see the effectiveness wane indicating March has done all he can, which may be at the end of his term next year, then yeah move on, but don't sledgehammer a man while all he is supposed to worry about is going so well. THat would be ridiculous.
TA not being rude but l dont like the man. He talks to much & delivers nothing. Too quick to get on TV or Radio for my liking
Losing cultures dont make a club. Winning cultures do
March if he knew anything about football would have seen the developement of the players was not good.
He should have stamped down on Wallace & pushed him to the limit & that meant his media committments like Tuesdays with Terry
Terry should have been out on the park pushing them players harder & to the next level & pushing his coaching staff to the limit or out the door
& just to keep it on Topic which l was getting too
March shouldnot be saying out in the media that Richo will playon & is required
Hey l would love Richo to playon next year myself, His a great servant of the club & would love nothing more than see him reach 300 games & play finals
But like many champions who have gone before him at any club, The game is too fast for the big fella & missing so much game time this year he will struggle if not re-injure himself
In saying that l dont think he would play 15 games which would be the minimum required for him to have a impact.
But here is another feeling l have deep down that l would hate to see Richo just come out & say he will retire & then that robs everyone of giving him a big sendoff he deserves
So Richo better get his kicking action fixed for 1 more huge season at FF cause l'm afraid thats the only posistion l see him playing.
Would love to see him kick 100 goals & have a huge season & play finals
The other thing we require to go forward, We need a FF & CHF who are going to dominate in kicking goal or we aint going to get off the bottom.
We need goal kickers in the ranges of 80, 65, 45, from 3 players to help win games & boost percentages up
We need a Roach, Cloke, Bartlett combination that will score goals & this is where the club has failed.
Richmond have been trying to build the side around midfielders & it dont work like that. its no good having Brownlow medalists pounding out of the centre if the guy your kicking too cant kick goals when required & he dont have the knowledge that if he cant mark the ball then knock it down to the hands of his crumbers who must be at his feet & not waiting 20 metres to receive the easy ball.
Crumbers must work hard & read the play & thats why we need a Bartlett type player & Nahas has what it takes & Jake King would make another
We need to structure up the forward line & then build around that. Forwards bring confidence & force players to kick long & quick.
Can Richo be this type of player & also work in the role of teaching a player like Hughes who l think has the good & needs to be thrown to the wolves & let him build confidence again
Hughes & Richo swapping roles between CHF/FF & then resting your Ruckman in the forward line like Benny Gale used to play. It works
all other clubs have built teams like this like Carlton, Adelaide, Brisbane, Hawthorn, St-Kilda, Essendon, all who are playing finals
Richmond bring in forwards & instead of letting them fit in they drop them after a few games which does nothing but damage the player & hurts the team structure cause its constantly changing.
be interesting to watch how Hardwick will go & l bet my dollars he will build a structure around 2 key forawrds & a ruckman with Nahas, Tuck & Rewoldt
He will place Thursfield & McGuane at FB/CHB & build around them without the soft players & the midfield needs to be restructured with THINKERS not power athletics but strong smart players who dont use the same actions every bounce
but to keep Richo we must keep him in the goal square as we know 1 on 1 not many can outmark or overpower him, but his kicking must improve if he is even making a trip to CHF to let Hughes in at FF
l bet this will be the first thing on Hardwicks plans, you will never see Richo running downfield again unless of course your in dire need to save a game with a telling gutwrenching saving mark like Richo. ;D
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MEMORIES ;D
only memories l live off are those of the Grand Final sides of 67-69-73-74-80 :thumbsup the memories so sweat & players so great & football was football all on Saurday
there was biffs & bumps & rules you could understand & money was not a option.
MEMORIES DESTROYED :'(
Come 1982 & the demise of South Melbourne & that bitch from Crazyhorse distracting our players in 1982 GF saw the end to football & the beginning of greed & silly rules no-one can understand.
A AFL admin that is destroying the game & turning it into something we dont want but its pushed upon us as greed has the power & makes the world revolve round.
In 10 years time you will have playing diving on the ground rolling around acting & being rewarded like they do in World soccer :banghead
:clapping
Thanks for the memories TM! And there is not a whole lot in here that I can disagree with. :thumbsup
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Is the March thing still in motion?
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Is the March thing still in motion?
March said he's staying. Benny Gale apparently wants him to stay on.
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Richo is leaving
Off home to Tassie in the next day or so to visit family ;)
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Richo is leaving
Off home to Tassie in the next day or so to visit family ;)
Nice work! Had me!
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Nice work! Had me!
That last bit isn't made up either. I turned on SEN today and the first words I heard Mark Doran say was "Richo is leaving". I almost fell out of my chair before he added the last bit about Richo was heading off to Tassie.
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That worries me a little as players dont usually go home to visit family when thinking about their future and and commit upon return!
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That worries me a little as players dont usually go home to visit family when thinking about their future and and commit upon return!
IIRC Richo went "home" to Tassie last year at this time of year. At least he won't have to worry down there about Hutchy hiding in the bushes or his rubbish bin and asking him every day whether he's going to play on.
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time to reflect. :rollin
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That worries me a little as players dont usually go home to visit family when thinking about their future and and commit upon return!
Richo has been back to Devonport 3 or 4 times over the past year, and only once was promotional where Browny came over with him for a Twenty20 cricket match in the off-season.
I wouldn't read much into it.
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And he is on annual leave. I'll bet that many on here also go home to visit rellies and friends during their holidays.
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I'll bet that many on here also go home to visit rellies and friends during their holidays.
And then remember why we only see our rellies once a year :lol
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i am confused.
didn't Richmond offer Richardson a 1 year contract?
or is this injury he had/has worse then first thought?
why would we ask him to decide his future when throughout the year he has clearly stated he wants to play on.
seems to me, this injury may be a concern.
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i am confused.
didn't Richmond offer Richardson a 1 year contract?
or is this injury he had/has worse then first thought?
why would we ask him to decide his future when throughout the year he has clearly stated he wants to play on.
seems to me, this injury may be a concern.
This is exactly what I thought. And I'm sure someone here put up a post that his (Richo) injury was worse that he and the club was letting on.
And I think this is why he has been given the chance all backhanded way to say that he will retire and this will make him look all the better towards the up and coming players.
As I think the club would rather he say he has quit than he has been forced to retire. Just a guess though.
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The great man ran a clinic earlier today.
And in about a half an hours time will be attending a sportsmans night.
I just got off the phone to a friend in Tassie who was in a mad rush to get organised and out the door. LOL ;D
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i am confused.
didn't Richmond offer Richardson a 1 year contract?
or is this injury he had/has worse then first thought?
why would we ask him to decide his future when throughout the year he has clearly stated he wants to play on.
seems to me, this injury may be a concern.
This is exactly what I thought. And I'm sure someone here put up a post that his (Richo) injury was worse that he and the club was letting on.
And I think this is why he has been given the chance all backhanded way to say that he will retire and this will make him look all the better towards the up and coming players.
As I think the club would rather he say he has quit than he has been forced to retire. Just a guess though.
Or perhaps just perhaps at 34 years of age (will be 35 by the start of 2010) the man himself wansts some time to decide whether he wants to go on and the club is giving him that space. Which is what I beleive is the case
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Duh, dont know how many times this year l have said his injury was serious, & is why l say he should retire or his future is stuck at FF while others around him do the hard leads :lol
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Perhaps, as Jade openly said, Richo has been told:
- This is the role
- These are the team rules
Are you prepared to play on under these rules and conditions, which may include rules about failure to follow team disciplines means getting dropped to Coburg.
Go away and think about it for a month. If you're prepared to play under thise conditions you'll get a contract.
In my world it's a typical discussion with an employee, "Work by these rules, or use the exit door.'
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Richo at home in Tiger den
James Bresnehan| September 05, 2009
MATTHEW Richardson has until October 30 to convince his new coach that his body can survive a 18th AFL season.
The 34-year-old Tiger star said in Hobart yesterday he needed to prove his hamstring injury had fully repaired and his knee was solid after medial ligament surgery last month.
"I spoke to [new Richmond coach] Damien [Hardwick] the other day and he was fairly positive," Richardson said.
"Basically, I've got to see how my body goes and if my body is alright then I think he's keen to have me around. I've probably got until the time the team lists have got to be in at the end of October."
Richo was King of the Tigers at the TCA ground yesterday, where he helped with a junior clinic and later spoke at a Hobart Football Club sports night.
Richardson said Hardwick would be "fantastic".
"He was a really hardnut of a player, he played in a premiership at the Bombers and he went to Port Adelaide played in a premiership there," Richardson said.
"Then he went to Hawthorn and was one of the main assistant coaches when the Hawks won the flag last year. It seems to me success follows him everywhere, so hopefully it follows him to Tigerland."
Richo backed his old club Devonport to roll Clarence in the TSL first-semi today.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2009/09/05/95561_afl.html
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Not the words of someone who is considering retirement. Fingers cross the big fella is okay and goes around again one more year.
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Matthew Richardson's future in his hands
Jon Ralph | September 08, 2009
RICHMOND has told star forward Matthew Richardson it needs to know by December whether he intends to play on next year.
The 34-year-old has asked for more time to assess his suspect hamstrings, even though the club has indicated it wants him to play on.
As a veteran Richardson is outside the primary list, so if he decides to retire the club needs to know only by the rookie draft on December 15 so it can select another rookie.
He will spend the off-season monitoring not only his health but his motivation before returning with a decision.
Richardson had been considered a certainty to play on after new coach Damien Hardwick's effusive praise of him.
But the delay raises some uncertainty over his future, with Richardson to turn 35 in March.
His manager, Ricky Nixon, said yesterday no one was in a hurry to rush a decision.
"They want him to play, there is a contract there, but it's a matter of whether he wants to play on or not," Nixon said.
"He wants some time to think about it. He wants to know in his own mind that his hamstrings are right and his mind is right. People keep coming up with deadlines.
"But there is no rush. The club says there is no rush. He can tell them in December because he's a veteran."
Richardson is in the fortunate position of being able to decide his own future.
He was forced to cut short a comeback from hamstring surgery when he pulled up sore in a VFL game for Coburg, but medicos say he can make a successful return next year.
Nixon says Richardson is determined to make the right decision.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,26040892-19742,00.html
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Regardless of what what you may believe whether Richo should be making the decision himself or not, it sounds as though he is trying to be as realistic and unselfish as he possibly can be about the decision.
It worries me that his hamstring is still not right and that he is not 100% about staying in his mind. To me, this would suggest that his motivation and confidence in his body is waning somewhat.
Time will tell
Stripes
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I hope Richo lines up on the wing for one more year. He and cousins on a wing each would be a nightmare for any opposition wingman.
Both different players in thier own right but the one thing they will do is run you into submission whilst getting a sh@% load of the ball.
Big engines on both would be good to see each week.
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I hope Richo lines up on the wing for one more year. He and cousins on a wing each would be a nightmare for any opposition wingman.
Both different players in thier own right but the one thing they will do is run you into submission whilst getting a sh@% load of the ball.
Big engines on both would be good to see each week.
If Richo ever plays on the wing again :rollin :rollin are you kidding yourself :lol he re-injured himself in the warmup to his return Coburg game
His gawn :shh
its time to get rid of the expectations & get rid of him once & for all & stop with the bad culture of keeping injured players on at the club
Time to start a new era
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I have to agree with Tigermonk here.
But IF he was to make a comeback I would rather see him on the wing or half foward flank.
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I have to agree with Tigermonk here.
But IF he was to make a comeback I would rather see him on the wing or half foward flank.
He has had alot of injuries, i just hope he can get over this one for one last year on the wing.
But what you guys are saying it does not sound too good.
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I have to agree with Tigermonk here.
But IF he was to make a comeback I would rather see him on the wing or half foward flank.
He has had alot of injuries, i just hope he can get over this one for one last year on the wing.
But what you guys are saying it does not sound too good.
as l said Richo wing days are over, his been winged
His only place in the team is at FF if he gets his kicking action sorted over the summer because Hardwick willnot punish the supporters
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Depending on Hardwick's game plan, I could see Richo playing two more years as a stay at home Alistair Lynch style full forward.
I don't reckon he has another year as a wingman in him.