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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 02, 2009, 03:38:31 PM
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Reserves Finals - 1st Elimination Final
Coburg Tigers Vs. Sandringham
Sunday 6th September 10.20am
TEAC Oval Port Melbourne
Not sure if any RFC guys are playing but Gilligan (13 ressie games), Putt (11), Polak (9) and Hughes (9) qualify I believe.
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How about Gourdis?
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How about Gourdis?
Goo only played 5 ressie games according to the VFL site (5 senior games as well). I was surprised too as I thought he played more ressie games.
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Shows how much of an injury affected year he had, wonder if he can still qualify given he hasn't played an AFL game. I thought there was some fine print regarding something like that.
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Gilligan and Putt really need to make a show for themselves here, Hughes..... hugh cares,, :whistle
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Here's the technical criteria:
21. PARTICIPATION IN FINALS
21.1 Players who have not played at least one (AFL or VFL) Senior or Reserve match in the relevant season shall be ineligible to play in the Senior Grade Finals.
21.2 Players who have played with the AFL Senior team of any AFL Club after the 1st day of July in the relevant season shall be ineligible to play in the VFL Senior or VFL Reserve Grade Finals unless they have played a total of at least seven (7) Senior or Reserve VFL matches in the same season.
21.3 Players who have not played at least two (2) VFL Reserve Grade matches in the relevant season shall be ineligible to play in the VFL Reserve Grade Finals save where immediately prior to selection, a listed player has missed through injury, at least ten (10) consecutive home & away matches of the VFL football season and his club remains active in the senior VFL Finals series.
21.4 Players who have played in more than eight Senior VFL Grade matches shall not be eligible to play in Final Series matches of the VFL Reserve Grade unless they have played in at least six matches of the VFL Reserve Grade.
21.5 Notwithstanding the provisions of Rule 21 when a Club has each of its Senior Grade (AFL or VFL) and Reserve Grade (AFL or VFL) teams engaged on the same day, (or consecutive days) the selection of players in the two teams shall be unrestricted, provided a player has participated in at least one (AFL or VFL) Senior Grade or Reserve Grade match in that relevant season.
21.6 Notwithstanding the provisions of Rule 21 when an AFL Club is still qualified to participate in the AFL Finals Series, all such AFL Club listed players shall be eligible to be selected for a team participating in either the VFL Senior or VFL Reserve grade Finals Series game provided that such player has played at least 1 game in the VFL Senior Grade or missed through injury at least 8 consecutive Home and Away matches of either the AFL or VFL Season.
21.7 Not withstanding the provisions of Rule 21, a minimum of 10 VFL listed players must be selected in the VFL Senior finals team for all VFL Finals matches (excluding VFL Club(s) who do not field a VFL Reserve grade team).
21.8 Not withstanding the provisions of Rule 21.7, should additional AFL listed players qualify to participate in the VFL Final Series, all such AFL listed players will be eligible to be selected for a team participating in the VFL Reserve Grade Finals provided that player has played at least one game in the VFL Senior Grade or missed through injury at least 8 consecutive Home and Away matches of either the AFL or VFL Season.
21.9 Not withstanding the provisions of Rule 21, when an AFL Club is eliminated from the AFL Final Series on the same weekend as the VFL Grand Final, AFL listed players must qualify for selection under Regulation 21.2.
21.10 Not withstanding the provisions of Rule 21, for a VFL Club(s) who do not field a VFL Reserve Grade team in the competition, AFL listed players must qualify players under Regulation 21.2 and must have played not more than 12 AFL games to be eligible to play in VFL finals matches.
21.11 Not withstanding the provisions of Rule 21, for a VFL Club(s) who do not field a VFL Reserve Grade team in the competition, when an AFL Club has completed the AFL Home and Away season or is eliminated from the AFL Final Series, a minimum of 10 VFL listed players must be selected in the VFL Senior finals team for all VFL Finals matches. The balance of the 10 VFL listed players can comprise of AFL veterans listed and AFL rookie listed have qualified under Rule 21.10 and VFL listed players who have qualified under Rule 21.1.
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Coburg Tigers ressies squad
B: Considine Keogh McQuilken
HB: Clifton Morgan Groves
C: Rayson Morris Jordon
HF: Abdallah Putt Wood
F: Gilligan Allan J. Hislop
R: Dahl Cattapan Ambrose
Int: Bassi, Kellett, Houli, J. Horne, Bramich, Saville, Kandilakis
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You would think from that named side Putty and Gilly are safe. Why play on if you've been cut.
For Cleve, Goo and Polly on the other hand it may be a sign they have been told by the RFC that their services are no longer required?
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I hope Gourdis and Polak are kept, we still need a few talls and they're both young enough
Perhaps Gourdis' hammy still hasn't come good, don't think he's played since, perhaps they just want to get him right for a full preseason
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You would think from that named side Putty and Gilly are safe. Why play on if you've been cut.
For Cleve, Goo and Polly on the other hand it may be a sign they have been told by the RFC that their services are no longer required?
Or they have been told to rest up and prepare for a hard pre-season and an AFL season that will determine their footy futures.
No disrespect to the Burgers' seconds, but why would Polly want to play in VFL seconds finals and risk the lot?
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For Polly that may be true as he was playing for Richmond but why would Cleve who has played a significant number of ressie games be allowed to miss when Putty and Gilly haven't been? Gilly and Putt played the last few Coburg seniors games yet has gone back to the ressie side to play in the finals. Infamy may be right about Goo's hammy still not being right although he trained last week.
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Infamy may be right about Goo's hammy still not being right although he trained last week.
Ben Cousins was back doing running at training the week after doing it in Round 1
It takes 16 weeks for a hamstring to properly repair after tearing it
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Infamy may be right about Goo's hammy still not being right although he trained last week.
Ben Cousins was back doing running at training the week after doing it in Round 1
It takes 16 weeks for a hamstring to properly repair after tearing it
True a hammy takes far longer to repair completely than the 2-3 weeks players give them but Goo trained fully with the main squad last week rather than just running around the boundary. Stange to make him train if his season was over. It wasn't like he did something stupid like get himself suspended like King did who also were made to train until the last training session despite being ineligible to play.
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You would think from that named side Putty and Gilly are safe. Why play on if you've been cut.
For Cleve, Goo and Polly on the other hand it may be a sign they have been told by the RFC that their services are no longer required?
Reading far too much in to it I reckon
Here's a thought out of left field - perhaps the players themselves made the call that they want to play ;D ;)
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You would think from that named side Putty and Gilly are safe. Why play on if you've been cut.
For Cleve, Goo and Polly on the other hand it may be a sign they have been told by the RFC that their services are no longer required?
Reading far too much in to it I reckon
Here's a thought out of left field - perhaps the players themselves made the call that they want to play ;D ;)
Yeah I may be reading too much into it although if you were on the edge of being cut you'd be doing everything in your power to safe your AFL career. Good on Putty and Gilly putting their hands up to play for the experience :clapping.
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Infamy may be right about Goo's hammy still not being right although he trained last week.
Ben Cousins was back doing running at training the week after doing it in Round 1
It takes 16 weeks for a hamstring to properly repair after tearing it
ROFL 16 weeks to repair hahahaahah thats the best laugh l had all week thanks
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Just because a player can be back playing in 3-4 weeks, doesn't mean the hamstring is fully repaired
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Coburg ressies lost but Gilly was one of their bests with 2 goals.
2009 VFL Reserves
Coburg Tigers 0.1 2.5 5.7 9.11 (65)
Sandringham 4.1 7.3 11.6 13.7 (85)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: GILLIGAN 2 Allan 2 Hislop Horne Jordon Putt Houli
Sandringham: Hardiman 4 Eddy 3 Johnston Connors Summons McConnell Tungatalum Cosson
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Cattapan Rayson Groves GILLIGAN Morgan Allan
Sandringham: McGrath Hardiman Monaghan Gribbin Johnston Gilchrist
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Coburg Tigers: Nil
Sandringham: Nil
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
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hmm, it doesnt fill me with alot of confidence that Putt fails to make the best in a thirds final...I would have thought a kid with designs on an afl career would have ripped it up...gilligan sounds promising though
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hmm, it doesnt fill me with alot of confidence that Putt fails to make the best in a thirds final...I would have thought a kid with designs on an afl career would have ripped it up...gilligan sounds promising though
Yep all so true - unfortunately we haven't been able to pick em over the years .... :banghead
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
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Just because a player can be back playing in 3-4 weeks, doesn't mean the hamstring is fully repaired
Yes Dr Imfamy ROFL :rollin :rollin 16 weeks
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
yeah his watching who has just been finished up
Gilligan & Putt chop chop
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
yeah his watching who has just been finished up
Gilligan & Putt chop chop
Gilligan? Youre kidding me right? Give him another year, hes been improving each week! He's only rookie listed too!
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Maybe the question we should be asking is why Putt has gone backwards this year, he had as good or better a year last year as Vickery and Post had at Coburg this year, was overlooked and unchallanged this year, Could'nt have had less impact at AFL level this year then Gus, Vickery or Patto had...........more development less judgement
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
yeah his watching who has just been finished up
Gilligan & Putt chop chop
I would have thought that Gilligan vindicated his rookie selection having risen from thirds to burger seniors and featuring in best and goalkickers in the games played...he'll stay...Putt would be on pretty thin ice unless of course there's something we missed from simply reviewing the BEST players
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Would hope and think that Gilligan would get re-rookied
Putt on the other hand; has certainly gone backwards this year
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Agree with everyone else. Why would you chop Gilly after just one year in the system and one in which he's shown improvement as the season went along?!
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I see Ryan Allan was named in the best
He is a kid from Gippsland way - big solid boy and incredibly talented (great below the knees for a big kid). He split his time between Coburg seniors & ressies
Now this is going to sound crazy and very much out of left field but I would seriously get him down to a pre-season at the tigers with a view of a rookie spot....
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I see Ryan Allan was named in the best
He is a kid from Gippsland way - big solid boy and incredibly talented (great below the knees for a big kid). He split his time between Coburg seniors & ressies
Now this is going to sound crazy and very much out of left field but I would seriously get him down to a pre-season at the tigers with a view of a rookie spot....
i imagine that squad will be a pretty big one wp, so he'll need to be good...a smart approach to ND would be to take 7 or so selections there and leave 2-3 spots for PSD...invite a squad of 25 wannabees and battl;e it out with 2 or 3 praccy matches ...I'm sure allen may get an invite, although he didnt do too much at VFL senior I kept an eye on him in an abc game
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i imagine that squad will be a pretty big one wp, so he'll need to be good...a smart approach to ND would be to take 7 or so selections there and leave 2-3 spots for PSD...invite a squad of 25 wannabees and battl;e it out with 2 or 3 praccy matches ...I'm sure allen may get an invite, although he didnt do too much at VFL senior I kept an eye on him in an abc game
I'm not talking about the ND or PSD bojangles17.
I am thinking solely a rookie possibility
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Well Gilligan lifted by the sounds of it and good on him, lets hope he has a good pre-season and is given a go next year. Putt IMHO will never come along, he should have shown something by now and he hasn't... goodbye and enjoy Hughes company. It's very unfortunate actually, I really believed Hughes was going to be something and likewise Putt, not to be though. :(
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
yeah his watching who has just been finished up
Gilligan & Putt chop chop
Gilligan? Youre kidding me right? Give him another year, hes been improving each week! He's only rookie listed too!
Must be some kind of Rookie playing most of the year at Coburg Reserves :rollin give me a break.
VFL reserve is very weak standard :shh
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Well Gilligan lifted by the sounds of it and good on him, lets hope he has a good pre-season and is given a go next year. Putt IMHO will never come along, he should have shown something by now and he hasn't... goodbye and enjoy Hughes company. It's very unfortunate actually, I really believed Hughes was going to be something and likewise Putt, not to be though. :(
Hughes is carrying injuries to his back & legs & he shouldnot be even playing
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
yeah his watching who has just been finished up
Gilligan & Putt chop chop
Gilligan? Youre kidding me right? Give him another year, hes been improving each week! He's only rookie listed too!
Must be some kind of Rookie playing most of the year at Coburg Reserves :rollin give me a break.
VFL reserve is very weak standard :shh
Facts are that we must play some richmond players in the ressies! Also some players mature less quickly than others. Its is also very difficult to cut a player who has shown improvement when plenty of others have not!
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where is he showing improvement.
Rookies listed players are recruited because they are better than a senior VFL player, that you showed promise to open the AFL door.
Playing Coburg reserves is not showing improvement. Its indicating that your about to be kicked out the door.
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Rookies listed players are recruited because they are better than a senior VFL player
Garbage. Absolutely wrong!
The rookie list is quite often used for project players that are seen to have long term potential. Whether Gilligan ends up improving the amounts required is the question.
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Well Gilligan lifted by the sounds of it and good on him, lets hope he has a good pre-season and is given a go next year. Putt IMHO will never come along, he should have shown something by now and he hasn't... goodbye and enjoy Hughes company. It's very unfortunate actually, I really believed Hughes was going to be something and likewise Putt, not to be though. :(
Hughes is carrying injuries to his back & legs & he shouldnot be even playing
given the dearth of KPP on our list, Hughes may very well be retained, he looked like being anything until he was beset by a number of health issues...at 22yo...Hardwick may take the glass half full approach with him
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Well Gilligan lifted by the sounds of it and good on him, lets hope he has a good pre-season and is given a go next year. Putt IMHO will never come along, he should have shown something by now and he hasn't... goodbye and enjoy Hughes company. It's very unfortunate actually, I really believed Hughes was going to be something and likewise Putt, not to be though. :(
Hughes is carrying injuries to his back & legs & he shouldnot be even playing
given the dearth of KPP on our list, Hughes may very well be retained, he looked like being anything until he was beset by a number of health issues...at 22yo...Hardwick may take the glass half full approach with him
Hughes "'looked ""like being anything :banghead Better find my glasses.
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Hardwick was watching the game today. So he's still assessing the list you would gather from that.
yeah his watching who has just been finished up
Gilligan & Putt chop chop
Gilligan? Youre kidding me right? Give him another year, hes been improving each week! He's only rookie listed too!
Must be some kind of Rookie playing most of the year at Coburg Reserves :rollin give me a break.
VFL reserve is very weak standard :shh
VFL Reserves is extremely poor standard. Local Suburban footy is better
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where is he showing improvement.
Rookies listed players are recruited because they are better than a senior VFL player, that you showed promise to open the AFL door.
Playing Coburg reserves is not showing improvement. Its indicating that your about to be kicked out the door.
The point is, Gilly didnt finish the season playing ressies! He finished the regular season in the ones ans put in a strong performance at that!