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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 10, 2009, 07:15:11 PM
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Or is about to according to whispers on 3aw
Healy goes re-signed as a "tall forward"
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Must be a joke surely :banghead
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Might be 'double insurance' in case a ruckman goes down or Richo doesn't come up.
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Must be a joke surely :banghead
I dont rate Simmo that much, but really he is our best ruckman at the moment. That says more about our ruck stocks than simmo's footballing abiltity!
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must be kidding
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Not sure why as his knee is stuffed isn't it ???. They must be thinking when Simmo was injured (2007,9) we were crap but we got pummelled by the Blues in round 1 with Simmo :P. If he's being kept as only a tall forward option then :help.
The end for Patto?
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I hope they know what they are doing, if they dont trade and delist young players ahead of old players there will be some unhappy people.
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I hope they know what they are doing, if they dont trade and delist young players ahead of old players there will be some unhappy people.
they know what they are doing ;) ... Remember gotta keep all these forums buzzing along :help :thumbsup :rollin
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Geez the guy turns like a bus is as slow as a sloth and has skills are so deficient. That Hawks game he could not hit a handball target from 5 metres away. Furthermore his kicking for goal is suspect just like many players at RFC.
Simmonds as a forward also begs me to say this he is the type of player in his time at Richmond and Freo where if there was alot hinging on the kick for goal he would miss but if the game was already won or lost straight over the goal umpires hat. For me delist. I find this mind boggling if true.
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Geez the guy turns like a bus is as slow as a sloth and has skills are so deficient. That Hawks game he could not hit a handball target from 5 metres away. Furthermore his kicking for goal is suspect just like many players at RFC.
Simmonds as a forward also begs me to say this he is the type of player in his time at Richmond and Freo where if there was alot hinging on the kick for goal he would miss but if the game was already won or lost straight over the goal umpires hat. For me delist. I find this mind boggling if true.
Agree Tucky. I can only see him kept as back-up at Coburg as surely he wouldn't play next year ahead of Vickery or Gus in the ruck or a Butcher, Post, Jack or Vickery up forward ???
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Posted it somewhere 3 weeks ago he was to stay on
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Posted it somewhere 3 weeks ago he was to stay on
Do you always have to have these "I was right" posts?
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Posted it somewhere 3 weeks ago he was to stay on
You did too Jack. ;) I thought I'd throw in the wink too. :lol ;)
I don't agree with it though.
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Posted it somewhere 3 weeks ago he was to stay on
Do you always have to have these "I was right" posts?
Just wanted to see who would bite :lol ;)
Well I was right
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This is just outrageous!
What type of culture are they trying the build down there?
Old, slow, apathetic club jockeys who are totally undeserving of a place on ANY list in the AFL or a young, vibrant group of players who don't yet know their limits and aren't afraid to fail in their pursuit of peaking at that potential?
FFS!
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Played on one leg this year.
Get the weight off him, will be a great option next year as a tall forward and in the ruck to help Vickery.
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Played on one leg this year.
Get the weight off him, will be a great option next year as a tall forward and in the ruck to help Vickery.
Give me a break. You have the hide the call other poster imbeciles and yet find it perfectly okay to post that rubbish.
Shame on you Jackstar. Off to bed, no Horlicks for you!!!
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Played on one leg this year.
Get the weight off him, will be a great option next year as a tall forward and in the ruck to help Vickery.
Give me a break. You have the hide the call other poster imbeciles and yet find it perfectly okay to post that rubbish.
Shame on you Jackstar. Off to bed, no Horlicks for you!!!
As Troy has half a brain., the likes of Cleve, Petts, JON, have zero
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Can not believe that!
He could not get a game for us this year for 8 or so weeks, so what has changed now???
I thought he would be one of the first to go. Our rucks are not in great shape but what's wrong with putting Browne onto our senior list to work with Gus and Vickory to do the rucking in the forward line and to draft a young ruckmen and rookie another???
We need to move on from these guys that are to old and slow.
Bad decisson RFC. :banghead
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Don't know if he has been signed, but I'm not fussed either way really. Thought we might keep him, wasn't 100% sure though.
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you would have to think that at least one of our rucks have to go if simmo stays on.
on a side note, it will be interesting to see where hardwick lines everyone up next year.
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hahahahaha
next is Schulz will be kept on.
Not a great move Hardwick and your first mistake.
W have 4 rucks. Putt, Vickery, Browne and Graham. Any one of those 4 on one leg is better than ralph macchio wannabe Simmonds.
Patto and Simmonds should be one of the first 2 to be shown the exit door.
what a stuffin joke
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next is Schulz will be kept on.
Well seeing he is contracted for 2010 daniel - I think unless we can trade him he will be staying on
And BTW if he does stay that aint a Hardwick mistake, that's a mistake of the previous regime ;D
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I might be clutching at staws here but Simmo does have a history of firing up every second year.
2005...crap
2006...very good
2007...crap
2008...good
2009...crap
2010...?
When he is not 100% fit he is a bloody liability.....If he is retained on the list he can consider himself a very lucky man.
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Can not believe that!
He could not get a game for us this year for 8 or so weeks, so what has changed now???
I thought he would be one of the first to go. Our rucks are not in great shape but what's wrong with putting Browne onto our senior list to work with Gus and Vickory to do the rucking in the forward line and to draft a young ruckmen and rookie another???
We need to move on from these guys that are to old and slow.
Bad decisson RFC. :banghead
Gus is 22 and has 18 games, too young and inexperienced for a solid ruckman. Browne has had 1 game and is 19. Vickery 19 and 9 games. Putt no games and 20. Pattisson 23 and 61 games.
Given patto doesn't appear to be able to bulk up he may not make it.
Gus will only hit prime when he's 24
If patto fails next year and simmo was gone then we would be smashed every week in the ruck.
I see Simmo as backup for a weak patto and an immature graham.
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I think patto is big enough,he just lacks skill.
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next is Schulz will be kept on.
Well seeing he is contracted for 2010 daniel - I think unless we can trade him he will be staying on
And BTW if he does stay that aint a Hardwick mistake, that's a mistake of the previous regime ;D
yes i know that but at the very least he should be thrown up as trade bait.
Say a buldogs may definately be keen on him, given his height and ability to play forward, even though he aint good at it.
Even if that means we pay half his wage for next year, so be it. Its not good for our club to have players like our Jay at the club.
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where is the proof?
bad call!
if true, would Pattison stay?
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Veteran Simmonds earns stay
Greg Denham | September 11, 2009 | The Australian
RICHMOND will offer veteran ruckman Troy Simmonds a one-year contract to continue his career in 2010 ....
The fact Richmond has extremely inexperienced ruckmen under Simmonds has earned the 31-year-old a stay.
Also in Simmonds's favour was that he was able to resume from another injury to play the final two rounds of the season where he was handy with 41 hit-outs and 29 disposals.
Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron yesterday said Simmonds would be offered a new deal early next week when he returns from an overseas holiday.
"We just feel that our other ruckmen are too young to leave them to their own devices at this stage of their careers," Cameron said.
Apart from Simmonds, the Tigers big-man brigade consists of Angus Graham, 22, who has played 18 games, Tyrone Vickery, 19, who played nine games in his debut season, and Andrew Browne, 19, who played his one and only game for the club in the opening round this year.
Simmonds, who has just completed a five-year contract, will now get the chance to achieve the 200-game milestone next year in a career which started with Melbourne in 1999 and included a three-year stint with Fremantle.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26055343-5013406,00.html
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yes i know that but at the very least he should be thrown up as trade bait.
Say a buldogs may definately be keen on him, given his height and ability to play forward, even though he aint good at it.
Even if that means we pay half his wage for next year, so be it. Its not good for our club to have players like our Jay at the club.
I agree with you ... Have always thought Jay would be a good fit for the Dogs - I reckon in a side with good foot skills getting good delvery he go alot better than what he has with us....
But I'd be surprsied if anyone would be interested in him this year after his season that's all
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They must be thinking when Simmo was injured (2007,9) we were crap but we got pummelled by the Blues in round 1 with Simmo :P. If he's being kept as only a tall forward option then :help.
I guess the only positive with him in the forward line is that when he keeps dropping marks, instead of costing us goals (like round 1 this year) we might crumb a few.
I'd have 3 small forwards follow him everywhere, and forget front and centre. When Simmo drops them, they go right through his hands.
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I guess the only positive with him in the forward line is that when he keeps dropping marks, instead of costing us goals (like round 1 this year) we might crumb a few.
I'd have 3 small forwards follow him everywhere, and forget front and centre. When Simmo drops them, they go right through his hands.
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Veteran Simmonds earns stay
Greg Denham | September 11, 2009 | The Australian
RICHMOND will offer veteran ruckman Troy Simmonds a one-year contract to continue his career in 2010 ....
The fact Richmond has extremely inexperienced ruckmen under Simmonds has earned the 31-year-old a stay.
Also in Simmonds's favour was that he was able to resume from another injury to play the final two rounds of the season where he was handy with 41 hit-outs and 29 disposals.
Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron yesterday said Simmonds would be offered a new deal early next week when he returns from an overseas holiday.
"We just feel that our other ruckmen are too young to leave them to their own devices at this stage of their careers," Cameron said.
Apart from Simmonds, the Tigers big-man brigade consists of Angus Graham, 22, who has played 18 games, Tyrone Vickery, 19, who played nine games in his debut season, and Andrew Browne, 19, who played his one and only game for the club in the opening round this year.
Simmonds, who has just completed a five-year contract, will now get the chance to achieve the 200-game milestone next year in a career which started with Melbourne in 1999 and included a three-year stint with Fremantle.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26055343-5013406,00.html
I read it but I dooooooon't believe it.
My flabber is well and truly gaster
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Can not believe that!
He could not get a game for us this year for 8 or so weeks, so what has changed now???
Umm there was a reason for this...... he was injured for most of the year. ::)
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you can see why though, and it is for one year. it could be low, so he has to accept it.
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What a laugh :lol
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must be April Fools day
The thought of having to watch this fool kicking the ball 5 metres away to an opponent, for another 12 months surely must be a joke
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must be April Fools day
The thought of having to watch this fool kicking the ball 5 metres away to an opponent, for another 12 months surely must be a joke
might have to follow another club next season ;D
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must be April Fools day
The thought of having to watch this fool kicking the ball 5 metres away to an opponent, for another 12 months surely must be a joke
Maybe he is a scapegoat for our younger guys performance while they are still developing.
He can be the sacrifical abuse target for 2010 to replace Jordie (hopefully)
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must be April Fools day
The thought of having to watch this fool kicking the ball 5 metres away to an opponent, for another 12 months surely must be a joke
might have to follow another club next season ;D
Here you go. A free passage. http://stuff/
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hahahahaha
next is Schulz will be kept on.
Not a great move Hardwick and your first mistake.
W have 4 rucks. Putt, Vickery, Browne and Graham. Any one of those 4 on one leg is better than ralph macchio wannabe Simmonds.
Patto and Simmonds should be one of the first 2 to be shown the exit door.
what a effin joke
Did you watch Ade vs Ess final, Essendon without a ruck?
If we get rid of Patto + Simmo we are left with
* Putt: rubbish
* Vickery: 18 yoa
* Browne: 18 yoa, rooie
you sir are the 'effin joke'
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hahahahaha
next is Schulz will be kept on.
Not a great move Hardwick and your first mistake.
W have 4 rucks. Putt, Vickery, Browne and Graham. Any one of those 4 on one leg is better than ralph macchio wannabe Simmonds.
Patto and Simmonds should be one of the first 2 to be shown the exit door.
what a effin joke
Did you watch Ade vs Ess final, Essendon without a ruck?
If we get rid of Patto + Simmo we are left with
* Putt: rubbish
* Vickery: 18 yoa
* Browne: 18 yoa, rooie
you sir are the 'effin joke'
You cannot be serious about keeping Simmonds. Surely. Did you even watch him play this year.
Him in the ruck would be no different to having no ruckman, just a really crap around the ground player on top.
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i do not rate Simmonds but we have no one else.
Patto and Graham are no good and very unco.
Vickery and Browne are babies and will be killed if they have to ruck against Gardiner, Sanderlands etc. next season them selfs.
Did you watch essendon vs Adelaide?
Vince got 10 center clearences, running at full speed - because Maric was rucking vs Lovett Murray.
you need someone tall to ruck :(
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Goodbye 2010. :-[
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Can not believe that!
He could not get a game for us this year for 8 or so weeks, so what has changed now???
Umm there was a reason for this...... he was injured for most of the year. ::)
That makes much more sense now, but i seem to remember him playing for Coburg?? Instead of resting injured players they must send them back to play at Coburg. :lol
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hahahahaha
next is Schulz will be kept on.
Not a great move Hardwick and your first mistake.
W have 4 rucks. Putt, Vickery, Browne and Graham. Any one of those 4 on one leg is better than ralph macchio wannabe Simmonds.
Patto and Simmonds should be one of the first 2 to be shown the exit door.
what a effin joke
Did you watch Ade vs Ess final, Essendon without a ruck?
If we get rid of Patto + Simmo we are left with
* Putt: rubbish
* Vickery: 18 yoa
* Browne: 18 yoa, rooie
you sir are the 'effin joke'
is Gus leaving is he??
Simmo cannot hit a target 5 metres away. Is slow as anything and cannot even mark or handbul.
Now if thats better than letting Browne, GUS and Vickery go at it and try and develop well then my friend you are in serious need of glasses.
Did i watch the Adelaide/Bombers game. Yes i did and that was a mistake by Knighter but tell me what is 1 ruckman(which they had on the night) vrs 2 developing ruckman(Vickery and Gus/Browne got anything to do with it.
By the way pal i also Kurt Tippet last year and look at him now. He didnt set the world on fire last year but he was allowed to develop in the team.
Those rucks need game time simple as that not a cancer riddled disposal fool like simmonds. He should team up with Juddy for a reality show on how do gain a black belt with a snake around your neck, because sadly thats the only thing he is good at.
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hahahahaha
next is Schulz will be kept on.
Not a great move Hardwick and your first mistake.
W have 4 rucks. Putt, Vickery, Browne and Graham. Any one of those 4 on one leg is better than ralph macchio wannabe Simmonds.
Patto and Simmonds should be one of the first 2 to be shown the exit door.
what a effin joke
Did you watch Ade vs Ess final, Essendon without a ruck?
If we get rid of Patto + Simmo we are left with
* Putt: rubbish
* Vickery: 18 yoa
* Browne: 18 yoa, rooie
you sir are the 'effin joke'
is Gus leaving is he??
Simmo cannot hit a target 5 metres away. Is slow as anything and cannot even mark or handbul.
Now if thats better than letting Browne, GUS and Vickery go at it and try and develop well then my friend you are in serious need of glasses.
Did i watch the Adelaide/Bombers game. Yes i did and that was a mistake by Knighter but tell me what is 1 ruckman(which they had on the night) vrs 2 developing ruckman(Vickery and Gus/Browne got anything to do with it.
By the way pal i also Kurt Tippet last year and look at him now. He didnt set the world on fire last year but he was allowed to develop in the team.
Those rucks need game time simple as that not a cancer riddled disposal fool like simmonds. He should team up with Juddy for a reality show on how do gain a black belt with a snake around your neck, because sadly thats the only thing he is good at.
I find it funny you mention Simmos kicking and then bring us Guus the spas in the next sentance.
Granted Graham had a few good games; however at the start of his carrer and towards the end of this season he has been rubbish. And when Graham has bad games he looks like a deadset unco.
In a perfect world Browne and Gus would be ourruckman next season with Vickery as a forward / ruck. Problem is Browne is 18 yoa and was a rookie pick. Gus has shown at times he is not very good.
I would like to delist Simmonds. The problem is our young ruckman are young and not good enough. All ourruckman have had a chance to 'develop' at Richmond but none is much good, yet, if ever.
I am not sure what you ' i also Kurt Tippet ' has to do with this conversation.
As for Mr Putt - have you ever seen this bloke play @ Coburg? He plays on a wing, is rubbish and deadset losts 90% of the time.
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itake your word for it re; Putt. I only saw 2 Coburg games this year and that was enough
what i meant was Tippett was a nobody last year and look at him now.
Thats what game time does to you.
If Patto is delisted and Putt is as bad as some say he is then maybe Simmo should stay for a year, but it will be very painful to watch.
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what i meant was Tippett was a nobody last year and look at him now.
Tippett pretty much played the whole season for Adelaide last year. ???
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Or is about to according to whispers on 3aw
Healy goes re-signed as a "tall forward"
my take on this is they would have considered charman for the obvious reasons of giving the young string beans a chop out...too expensive and too injury prone, I applaud the move
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what i meant was Tippett was a nobody last year and look at him now.
Tippett pretty much played the whole season for Adelaide last year. ???
yes your point is? i said Tippett was a nobody last year played most games and was even dropped a few times throughout the season.
Point is he was in the team the whole season and developed nicely. His stats last year were average yet he managed to play 19 games.
Now compare that to Browne. Played Round 1 never to be seen again in 2009.
Rookie or not he deserved to play a few games ahead of those 2 clowns patto and simmo. FACT!!
I remember some on here were saying Vickery is too young to play bla bla bla
They need to play away from that Coburg crap where they rot
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Putt is played out of position to improve his motor, he's a natural forward but needs to learn to play other positions in the opinion of the coaching staff
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Can not believe that!
He could not get a game for us this year for 8 or so weeks, so what has changed now???
Umm there was a reason for this...... he was injured for most of the year. ::)
That makes much more sense now, but i seem to remember him playing for Coburg?? Instead of resting injured players they must send them back to play at Coburg. :lol
No, players returning from serious injury are played in the VFL until they are fit/warrant a game. ;)
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Goodbye 2010. :-[
Sadly Magic I think that's a given whether Simmo stays on or not. Next year isn't going to be pretty except for hopefully more of our cubs developing and surprising us.
If Simmo is staying then Patto's spot on our list must be very shakey come October.
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Simmonds has a contract in front of him from Lilydale FC if we don't sign him up by Richmond, where his best mates from school play.
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Simmonds has a contract in front of him from Lilydale FC if we don't sign him up by Richmond, where his best mates from school play.
The tiger snakes are quite ferocious out that way. Maybe he should go.
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Given all our other 30 year olds have had their future decided, it's kind of odd that Simmo is still an unknown if we are going to offer him a 1-year contract as suggested. Perhaps we are going to wait until after trade week or even after the National draft to see what is available out there as far as ruck stocks.