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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 15, 2009, 02:19:18 PM
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Tigers caretaker coach to join Lions
Jesse Hogan | September 15, 2009 - 12:51PM
Richmond's 2009 caretaker coach, Jade Rawlings, has quit the club to become an assistant at the Brisbane Lions under Michael Voss.
Richmond would not confirm Rawlings' move and Brisbane could not be contacted immediately, however it is believed the 31-year-old has been released from his contract to join the Lions.
The move comes a day after Brisbane released three of its assistant coaches from this season: Chris Johnson, Wayne Brittain and Craig Brittain.
Another assistant, Justin Leppitsch, is believed to be attracting interest from Victorian clubs.
Rawlings coached the Tigers' last 11 matches this season, stepping in after the resignation of Terry Wallace.
He made the final four candidates for the club's full-time senior coaching role but was passed over for Damien Hardwick.
After Richmond's round 21 loss to Hawthorn, Rawlings, who had found out the previous day he had not made the final two, said he doubted whether the new coach would want him remaining.
"I personally would think that it would be hard for someone who gets appointed to have me around," he said.
"[Because of] my passion for the job and my attachment to this group someone may think I've got some sort of worth but that will work itself out, I'm sure."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/09/15/1252780303646.html
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Confirmed. Brisbane to announce that Jade is following McRae to the Lions later today according to SEN.
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good riddons
softie
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I'm disappointed he has left. I was hoping he could work with Hardwick, continue in his Coburg role and focus on development.
If though, he would have made Hardwicks role more difficult or compromised the coach in any way then I can understand the move.
Stripes
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Hm probably the right move for both parties.
Think its a great example showing emotion in the media isn't a good idea
"I love these blokes, I'm so passionate about this group, I want to coach these guys, I'd die for these guys"
Not the best way to go about it Jade.
Then to leave, you look a bit silly.
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Hm probably the right move for both parties.
Think its a great example showing emotion in the media isn't a good idea
"I love these blokes, I'm so passionate about this group, I want to coach these guys, I'd die for these guys"
Not the best way to go about it Jade.
Then to leave, you look a bit silly.
Especially when you only coached them for 11 games or so.
Very silly. Not much upstairs
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All assistants gone except Cambo who will continue as midfield coach in 2010....
Rawlings, McRae depart Punt Road
richmondfc.com.au
3:24 PM Tue 15 September, 2009
Richmond has announced that Jade Rawlings and Craig McRae will not continue at the club next season, with both agreeing to join the Brisbane Lions Football Club in coaching roles.
Fellow Tigers’ coaching panel members Brian Royal and David King have also departed Punt Road since the end of the 2009 season.
Rawlings joined Richmond in 2007 as an assistant coach, combining that duty with a senior coaching role with the Club’s VFL affiliate, Coburg, in 2008.
He became a development coach at Richmond in 2009, while continuing as Coburg’s senior coach. But when Terry Wallace vacated the senior coaching role at Richmond mid-year, Rawlings took over as the Tigers’ caretaker coach for the rest of the season. He subsequently guided the team to three wins, a draw, and seven losses in the final 11 home-and-away rounds.
McRae, a triple premiership player with Brisbane, spent three years at Tigerland as a development coach. He stepped into the senior coaching position at Coburg midway through the 2009 season, replacing Rawlings.
Royal had stints as an assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs and Melbourne, before joining Richmond in an assistant coaching role in 2005. He was initially in charge of the team’s midfield, before taking over forward line duties this season.
King also spent five years at Punt Road as defensive coach, following a decorated 241-game career at North Melbourne.
Richmond Forward Scout Gordon Casey also departed the club following the 2009 season.
Wayne Campbell will continue as the Tigers’ midfield coach in 2010, while announcements on replacements for the departing coaches will be made in due course.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/84777/default.aspx
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I'm disappointed he has left. I was hoping he could work with Hardwick, continue in his Coburg role and focus on development.
If though, he would have made Hardwicks role more difficult or compromised the coach in any way then I can understand the move.
Stripes
Just curious as to why would people would think if he stayed he should have gone back to coaching Coburg?
Find it interesting
But I do agree that if staying was going to make things difficult for Hardwick then it is actually the right decision
Especially when you only coached them for 11 games or so.
Very silly. Not much upstairs
And you base your final comment on what exactly? Do you actually know him?
Reason I ask you get very critical of others when they criticise or take pot shots at people you know, usually calling them nuffers but you sometimes don't seem to apply the same rules to those you don't know
Just an observation ;D
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I'm disappointed he has left. I was hoping he could work with Hardwick, continue in his Coburg role and focus on development.
If though, he would have made Hardwicks role more difficult or compromised the coach in any way then I can understand the move.
Stripes
Just curious as to why would people would think if he stayed he should have gone back to coaching Coburg?
Find it interesting
But I do agree that if staying was going to make things difficult for Hardwick then it is actually the right decision
Especially when you only coached them for 11 games or so.
Very silly. Not much upstairs
And you base your final comment on what exactly? Do you actually know him?
Reason I ask you get very critical of others when they criticise or take pot shots at people you know, usually calling them nuffers but you sometimes don't seem to apply the same rules to those you don't know
Just an observation ;D
I actually have met him in a social enviroment , in a pub with the other coaches, Wasnt impressed at all, thought he was a dope was my first impression. smoke hanging out of his gob, pot in the other, I thought at the time, gee we really need this as an assistant.
He didnt inspire me at all,.
I call it as I see it.
You can see why the likes of Sheedy , Parkin and Matthews were successful, they inspire players to walk tall.
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
Does that mean you're gone next?
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
Does that mean you're gone next?
I have to agree with Monk, all the knobs are nearly gone.
Just one thing Infamy, there is reason we are down the bottom, as the people they had running the place had little idea. FACT !
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I actually have met him in a social enviroment , in a pub with the other coaches, Wasnt impressed at all, thought he was a dope was my first impression. smoke hanging out of his gob, pot in the other, I thought at the time, gee we really need this as an assistant.
He didnt inspire me at all,.
I call it as I see it.
You can see why the likes of Sheedy , Parkin and Matthews were successful, they inspire players to walk tall.
So I can make a call on a person if I have met them in a "social environment" ;D
So therefore, I can say I've met Sheedy in a "social environment" (which I have) and I wasn't impressed thought he was away with the pixies to be honest ... I call it as I see it... on that occassion he didn't inspire me at all ;D
The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
How can an axe fall on someone when they have actually quit ??? ::) ;D
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might hurt the Raines trade??
Rawlings might alert the lions to a couple of andrews imperfections..
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
Does that mean you're gone next?
Nice work! :lol
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I actually have met him in a social enviroment , in a pub with the other coaches, Wasnt impressed at all, thought he was a dope was my first impression. smoke hanging out of his gob, pot in the other, I thought at the time, gee we really need this as an assistant.
He didnt inspire me at all,.
I call it as I see it.
You can see why the likes of Sheedy , Parkin and Matthews were successful, they inspire players to walk tall.
So I can make a call on a person if I have met them in a "social environment" ;D
So therefore, I can say I've met Sheedy in a "social environment" (which I have) and I wasn't impressed thought he was away with the pixies to be honest ... I call it as I see it... on that occassion he didn't inspire me at all ;D
The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
How can an axe fall on someone when they have actually quit ??? ::) ;D
Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story,WP ;)
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Maybe, but it goes back many years. Time to rebuild (players and coaches) and not half rebuild by toping up with players good or bad from other clubs.
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
not just yet TM
Schulz and Patto are still there. Hope they are the next to go
i guess we are stuck with Simmo for another year
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I actually have met him in a social enviroment , in a pub with the other coaches, Wasnt impressed at all, thought he was a dope was my first impression. smoke hanging out of his gob, pot in the other, I thought at the time, gee we really need this as an assistant.
He didnt inspire me at all,.
I call it as I see it.
You can see why the likes of Sheedy , Parkin and Matthews were successful, they inspire players to walk tall.
So I can make a call on a person if I have met them in a "social environment" ;D
So therefore, I can say I've met Sheedy in a "social environment" (which I have) and I wasn't impressed thought he was away with the pixies to be honest ... I call it as I see it... on that occassion he didn't inspire me at all ;D
The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
How can an axe fall on someone when they have actually quit ??? ::) ;D
We were actually speaking about football. wasnt impressed one bit., thats my opinion and obviously its been proven correct,
Made a complete "'goose "" of himself when he ranted on about him loving the players and club etc.
Better to keep your mouth shut one would think.
You will find he quit as putting it a nice way as there wasnt a position there him.
Furthermore, OUR FOOTBALL CLUB HAS BEEN A FAILURE. Gettting rid of non performers or people who AINT up to it is a step forward.
I find it staggering people sticking up for people as they like them ::)
Football is a cut throat business, in which the RFC has FAILED badly in the past 25 years.
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might hurt the Raines trade??
Rawlings might alert the lions to a couple of andrews imperfections..
I was hoping the opposite.
Rawlings alerts them to Schulz, Pattison, JON and Hughes who have been wasting away in the VFL despite having enormous potential.... :pray
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not to mention the fact that he was making comment about players contracts(Richo & Bowden) etc etc as if the job was his.
i couldn't believe people were fooled by his coaching skills with those wins against hacks like Demons and Eagles.
shut the door on your way out Jade & McCrae.
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We were actually speaking about football. wasnt impressed one bit., thats my opinion and obviously its been proven correct,
How did you come to that conclusion, that you've been proven correct
You will find he quit as putting it a nice way as there wasnt a position there him.
Are you 100% sure about that (I think I am supposed to put one of these ;) here at this point)
If you are not involved at the club how would you possibly know?
I find it staggering people sticking up for people as they like them ::)
Now that is really funny as you do it on a regular basis
What colour is the pot again :rollin :rollin
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I'm disappointed he has left. I was hoping he could work with Hardwick, continue in his Coburg role and focus on development.
If though, he would have made Hardwicks role more difficult or compromised the coach in any way then I can understand the move.
Stripes
Just curious as to why would people would think if he stayed he should have gone back to coaching Coburg?
Find it interesting
I think he was making a fair fist of coaching at Coburg with the younger team especially. There was some obvious rapport and respect and in this developmental aspect I think he was ok. Only time will tell if he has what it takes to make it as a successful coach but I would have been more than happy for him to move back to Coburg in the role he had - with a new game plan to work with he would have been worth keeping imho.
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Yep, we seen the rapport and respect he had with the playing group in the last 4 rounds of 2009 ::)
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We were actually speaking about football. wasnt impressed one bit., thats my opinion and obviously its been proven correct,
How did you come to that conclusion, that you've been proven correct
You will find he quit as putting it a nice way as there wasnt a position there him.
Are you 100% sure about that (I think I am supposed to put one of these ;) here at this point)
If you are not involved at the club how would you possibly know?
I find it staggering people sticking up for people as they like them ::)
Now that is really funny as you do it on a regular basis
What colour is the pot again :rollin :rollin
WRONG,
I actually stick up for people that I have worked with and respect and learnt from. I dont let personal views get in the way of performance.
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not to mention the fact that he was making comment about players contracts(Richo & Bowden) etc etc as if the job was his.
i couldn't believe people were fooled by his coaching skills with those wins against hacks like Demons and Eagles.
shut the door on your way out Jade & McCrae.
Good post.
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Thanks Jade enjoy the Lions, although I think you could have departed a little better than you did.
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lol! just funny how Jade is going to Brisbane ... where Raines wants to go!
and if it wasn't for Jade, Raines would still be at Richmond!
Jade was the one who said Raines wasn't up to AFL standard coming back from injury!
lol! i wonder if Raines is considering not to go to Brisbane now?
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Jade Rawlings said too much full stop.
After all, he was just a caretaker coach.
He fixed a few careers up in his short time
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primarily i see a spoilt,petulant group of athletes who have been able to fire their coach at random or at best,hide behind excuses rather than accept their position as senior,professional athletes playing for a struggling team.
Part of the culture problem imo....
The ability if the coach until now has been secondary overall, in assessing the teams true desire or lackof to represent the rfc.
Ben Cousins has done a lot to change things for the better - ironic aint it !
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primarily i see a spoilt,petulant group of athletes who have been able to fire their coach at random or at best,hide behind excuses rather than accept their position as senior,professional athletes playing for a struggling team.
Part of the culture problem imo....
The ability if the coach until now has been secondary overall, in assessing the teams true desire or lackof to represent the rfc.
Ben Cousins has done a lot to change things for the better - ironic aint it !
Spot on Ox :thumbsup
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We were actually speaking about football. wasnt impressed one bit., thats my opinion and obviously its been proven correct
Good thing impressing you isn't on the prerequisites list
I didn't realise you were the all seeing all knowing football deity, how could I have been so mistaken?
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primarily i see a spoilt,petulant group of athletes who have been able to fire their coach at random or at best,hide behind excuses rather than accept their position as senior,professional athletes playing for a struggling team.
Part of the culture problem imo....
The ability if the coach until now has been secondary overall, in assessing the teams true desire or lackof to represent the rfc.
Ben Cousins has done a lot to change things for the better - ironic aint it !
Spot on Ox :thumbsup
x 2 Ox. Great post. :clapping
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We were actually speaking about football. wasnt impressed one bit., thats my opinion and obviously its been proven correct
Good thing impressing you isn't on the prerequisites list
I didn't realise you were the all seeing all knowing football deity, how could I have been so mistaken?
Little do you know
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primarily i see a spoilt,petulant group of athletes who have been able to fire their coach at random or at best,hide behind excuses rather than accept their position as senior,professional athletes playing for a struggling team.
Part of the culture problem imo....
The ability if the coach until now has been secondary overall, in assessing the teams true desire or lackof to represent the rfc.
Ben Cousins has done a lot to change things for the better - ironic aint it !
Interesting that Ben Cousins has done something to change things.
Shouldnt the coaches change the culture and cull players that dont measure up :banghead
And also recruit players accordingly.
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WRONG,
I actually stick up for people that I have worked with and respect and learnt from. I dont let personal views get in the way of performance.
Actually I stick up for those I respect and those who respect me. As for assessing performances, I base that on assessing people's entire performance not just selecting what I deem relevant
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An our perfomance repeatedly has been poor for a long long time.
We all agree, that new blood and ideas are needed at Punt Rd.
Sweep broom Sweep
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WRONG,
I actually stick up for people that I have worked with and respect and learnt from. I dont let personal views get in the way of performance.
Actually I stick up for those I respect and those who respect me. As for assessing performances, I base that on assessing people's entire performance not just selecting what I deem relevant
I stick up for anyone who hasnt personally let me down! They can cheese other people off as they like but until they do it to me, then theyre ok! Too many people on this forum think they can slag off a person purely because they are not good footballers, or because they did a caretakers role as coach and left at the end, or because they got traded to the club, or because they got offered 5 contracts and they took it................ do they deserve to be called, as one person labelled Jade,a softie even though they have done nothing to personally insult that person? I think not!
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Go Richo are you still upset that Jade "your man" didnt get the job. Get over it pal
who could forget your posts when we beat the Eagles and Demons, claiming the "players played for him , and we are playing a better brand of football under Jade... bla bla bla
Jade is a softie, simple as that. He proved he is not fit to coach AFL Football, that much was obvious
players dont respond to the likes of him and Wallace.
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Go Richo are you still upset that Jade "your man" didnt get the job. Get over it pal
who could forget your posts when we beat the Eagles and Demons, claiming the "players played for him , and we are playing a better brand of football under Jade... bla bla bla
Jade is a softie, simple as that. He proved he is not fit to coach AFL Football, that much was obvious
players dont respond to the likes of him and Wallace.
Daniel, i am over it! Im over the whole subject! Damien got the job and he has my support now! I refuse to now bag Damien simply because he was not my preferred candidate! But i fear you would in my situation! Jade may be a softie, but hey, he has played footy at the highest and now coached at the highest level. Achievements you have failed to reach. I guess that makes a softie a better man than you!
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primarily i see a spoilt,petulant group of athletes who have been able to fire their coach at random or at best,hide behind excuses rather than accept their position as senior,professional athletes playing for a struggling team.
Part of the culture problem imo....
The ability if the coach until now has been secondary overall, in assessing the teams true desire or lackof to represent the rfc.
Ben Cousins has done a lot to change things for the better - ironic aint it !
Interesting that Ben Cousins has done something to change things.
Shouldnt the coaches change the culture and cull players that do measure up :banghead
And also recruit players accordingly.
CHICKEN OR EGG ?
Believe it or not,we are still suffering (thgis year)from the Frawley occupation.
If u wanna talk coaches,have we even had a good one since Tommy Hafey ?
Jewell won us a flag but had Sheedy as his assistant and pretty much was a token for the job.
Bottom line is,they have all been either morons,soft or soft morons.
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
Does that mean you're gone next?
dont think so, l be around for life ;D
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How can an axe fall on someone when they have actually quit ??? ::) ;D
cause he chopped his own toes off ;D by not having the backing of the players so he had no option but to quit.
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The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
not just yet TM
Schulz and Patto are still there. Hope they are the next to go
i guess we are stuck with Simmo for another year
have to tell ya Daniel
l like Patto ;D
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I actually have met him in a social enviroment , in a pub with the other coaches, Wasnt impressed at all, thought he was a dope was my first impression. smoke hanging out of his gob, pot in the other, I thought at the time, gee we really need this as an assistant.
He didnt inspire me at all,.
I call it as I see it.
You can see why the likes of Sheedy , Parkin and Matthews were successful, they inspire players to walk tall.
So I can make a call on a person if I have met them in a "social environment" ;D
So therefore, I can say I've met Sheedy in a "social environment" (which I have) and I wasn't impressed thought he was away with the pixies to be honest ... I call it as I see it... on that occassion he didn't inspire me at all ;D
The Axe is nearly finished ;D
all the knobs are cleaned out
How can an axe fall on someone when they have actually quit ??? ::) ;D
We were actually speaking about football. wasnt impressed one bit., thats my opinion and obviously its been proven correct,
Made a complete "'goose "" of himself when he ranted on about him loving the players and club etc.
Better to keep your mouth shut one would think.
You will find he quit as putting it a nice way as there wasnt a position there him.
Furthermore, OUR FOOTBALL CLUB HAS BEEN A FAILURE. Gettting rid of non performers or people who AINT up to it is a step forward.
I find it staggering people sticking up for people as they like them ::)
Football is a cut throat business, in which the RFC has FAILED badly in the past 25 years.
exactly how it is :clapping :clapping :clapping
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I'm disappointed he has left. I was hoping he could work with Hardwick, continue in his Coburg role and focus on development.
If though, he would have made Hardwicks role more difficult or compromised the coach in any way then I can understand the move.
Stripes
Just curious as to why would people would think if he stayed he should have gone back to coaching Coburg?
Find it interesting
I think he was making a fair fist of coaching at Coburg with the younger team especially. There was some obvious rapport and respect and in this developmental aspect I think he was ok. Only time will tell if he has what it takes to make it as a successful coach but I would have been more than happy for him to move back to Coburg in the role he had - with a new game plan to work with he would have been worth keeping imho.
Smokey l think that cold weather is freezing your nuts ;D
Rawling had no idea how to develope them young players as they all went backwards. The whole Coburg side went backwards. But l wont lay total blame on him & will include McRae, Royal, King, & others
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Go Richo are you still upset that Jade "your man" didnt get the job. Get over it pal
who could forget your posts when we beat the Eagles and Demons, claiming the "players played for him , and we are playing a better brand of football under Jade... bla bla bla
Jade is a softie, simple as that. He proved he is not fit to coach AFL Football, that much was obvious
players dont respond to the likes of him and Wallace.
Daniel you forgot to mention those great wins were against 17/18 fit players in the opposition teams :rollin :rollin oh 1 draw against a broken Kangaroos
A Auskick dad could have coached them ;D
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Smokey l think that cold weather is freezing your nuts ;D
Rawling had no idea how to develope them young players as they all went backwards. The whole Coburg side went backwards. But l wont lay total blame on him & will include McRae, Royal, King, & others
You bloody Mexicans are only jealous - video skyping with my father last week (he lives in Bendigo) and he was all rugged up moaning about it being freezing outside. Ha - I was in a singlet and shorts at the time! :P
I thought Coburg punched above their weight division for the first half of the season and that (to me from a distance) seemed to largely coincide with Rawlings being left alone to coach 'his' team. Once the crap hit the fan mid season then things went awry and I don't think anyone could be blamed for not producing results then (McCrae included). Anyway, he's gone now and it seems that a real wind of fresh air (much more than just a breath) is blowing through Punt Rd. I for one, am very happy and comfortable with that, and even though I was one of those that gave Wallace the full measure of time and support for his plan, I am very happy with seeing his back and Hardwick's front (not literally speaking of course) :o. And for better or worse, if that wind of change takes out fave's like Bowden, Tuck, even Richo then so be it - we are a club long, long, long overdue in shifting the balance of power from the playing group to the coaches and management team.