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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tiga on October 07, 2009, 11:30:35 AM
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It seems from reports that the Cats may not be able to keep Wojcinski because of salary cap restrictions.
Should we have a crack at getting him?? I for one am extremely interested. Sure he is 29 and a couple of years younger than Cuz but he played 18 games for the Cats this year, so he still has plenty of footy left in him. I think he would be great for us off the half back stuff/wing.
He might slip through to the PSD if no deals are done but if there is interest from other clubs, I would offer a late pick for him and a 2 year contract.
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29 thats shattering I didn't think he was that old.
We wont touch him, our picks are sacred and maybe a Nathan Brown for Wojinski trade maybe at best.
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What do ppl think of his disposal. From some of the games I have watched of the Cats it has been shocking.
If he does have poor disposal; no thanks we have enough of those types plus he is too old.
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What do ppl think of his disposal. From some of the games I have watched of the Cats it has been shocking.
If he does have poor disposal; no thanks we have enough of those types plus he is too old.
Not interested. Only a fringe player at Geelong and too old to be worth bothering with.
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Yep too old for us to trade and and has too much currency thanks to his pace that clubs will be seeking to go to the PSD. Would suit St Kilda to replace Raph Clarke on the HBF for them but I doubt Geelong would make it easy for them to get him. ;D
I thought his disposal was quite okay.
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He goes ok, any miskick in the Cats line up stands out like a sore thumb. Imagine Jackson's worm burners down there, he'd be across every back page.
If he was 26 I'd think about it but 29 is useless to our list. Unless we pick him up for nothing, I'd take him but at the expense of Tucks spot is a tough call.
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He goes ok, any miskick in the Cats line up stands out like a sore thumb. Imagine Jackson's worm burners down there, he'd be across every back page.
LOL sad but true
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No!
:)
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CLOSE THREAD
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CLOSE THREAD
Well everyone, Since Little Lord Fauntleroy has decreed that this thread be closed, then we must, for fear of falling out of favour with his Lordship. After all if his Lordship is not interested in this thread, then how could anyone else possibly be???
(http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc336/th_84761_little_lord_fauntleroy_122_336lo.jpg)
"I demanded that Mumsie buy me this Big Dog so he can bite you if you don't do as I say!!"
BTW, can anyone actually find a thread that has ever been created by his Lordship in Richmond Rant??
I guess some of us are born to freely express our original thoughts and ideas while others are destined to just stand in the crowd and ridicule.
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Would love to get him in the PSD or for a McMahon type;m
Love the way he goes about it
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This is a distraction, stay focused people.
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would take the risk of getting him to the club
need his experience & pace
then would kick Mclvin out the door
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CLOSE THREAD
Well everyone, Since Little Lord Fauntleroy has decreed that this thread be closed, then we must, for fear of falling out of favour with his Lordship. After all if his Lordship is not interested in this thread, then how could anyone else possibly be???
(http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc336/th_84761_little_lord_fauntleroy_122_336lo.jpg)
"I demanded that Mumsie buy me this Big Dog so he can bite you if you don't do as I say!!"
LOL funny :D
BTW, can anyone actually find a thread that has ever been created by his Lordship in Richmond Rant??
I guess some of us are born to freely express our original thoughts and ideas while others are destined to just stand in the crowd and ridicule.
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No!
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I see your NO! and raise you a NO!
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Too old for us even via the PSD. I also wonder what his motivation will be like if he is forced out to another club especially a struggling one due to the Cats' salary cap. Being a dual premiership player at 29 he's hardly got something to prove or aim for. He'd be just a list clogger waiting to retire at Richmond given how far we are away from being a decent side.
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Too old for us even via the PSD. I also wonder what his motivation will be like if he is forced out to another club especially a struggling one due to the Cats' salary cap. Being a dual premiership player at 29 he's hardly got something to prove or aim for. He'd be just a list clogger waiting to retire at Richmond given how far we are away from being a decent side.
Do not agree at all.
It would be good to have a solid player to have inbetween Richo/Cousins and Newman in our list overall age-wise.
I am not sure if Wojo has 'nothing to prove', he will still try if he is at Richmond.
Geelong would have won the grand final vs. Hawthorn if he was not dropped and played ahead of Stokes or Bynes - IMHO
Would be perfect PSD pick up
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Too old for us even via the PSD. I also wonder what his motivation will be like if he is forced out to another club especially a struggling one due to the Cats' salary cap. Being a dual premiership player at 29 he's hardly got something to prove or aim for. He'd be just a list clogger waiting to retire at Richmond given how far we are away from being a decent side.
David Wojcinski is one of the quickest players around & has been hampered by a few injuries but is over them now
He dont lack anything as a footballer & a premiership player creates hunger in youngsters at higher level
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Too old for us even via the PSD. I also wonder what his motivation will be like if he is forced out to another club especially a struggling one due to the Cats' salary cap. Being a dual premiership player at 29 he's hardly got something to prove or aim for. He'd be just a list clogger waiting to retire at Richmond given how far we are away from being a decent side.
MT, therefore by that rationale, Cuz is an even bigger list clogger for us. He has won a premiership and a Brownlow and still tries his gut out for us because he just loves playing footy. I also see this attitude in Wojo. The guy is super fit, fast and experienced. He would also fill a hole currently filled by one J. McMahon. He would still have at least 2-3 years in him at the top level so I still stand by my original opinion.
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Too old for us even via the PSD. I also wonder what his motivation will be like if he is forced out to another club especially a struggling one due to the Cats' salary cap. Being a dual premiership player at 29 he's hardly got something to prove or aim for. He'd be just a list clogger waiting to retire at Richmond given how far we are away from being a decent side.
MT, therefore by that rationale, Cuz is an even bigger list clogger for us. He has won a premiership and a Brownlow and still tries his gut out for us because he just loves playing footy. I also see this attitude in Wojo. The guy is super fit, fast and experienced. He would also fill a hole currently filled by one J. McMahon. He would still have at least 2-3 years in him at the top level so I still stand by my original opinion.
I think Cuz is different as he had the motivation to prove he could comeback and still play at a high level drug free. He is also seen as a superstar so our young cubs look up to him. Wojo is a good player but I don't believe he would have that aura as a Cuz. Wojo looks like re-signing with Geelong now that Mumford is going so it's a mute point anyway. The other reason I said no is GC17 have the first 5 rookie picks this year leaving us with our first pick at 7. IMO we should use our PSD pick on the best youngster left over from the draft before GC17 grab him.
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we would end up with too many youngsters & no experienced players.
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We have a fair few kids starting to come into their breakout years agewise after 3-5 years in the system. Add to them some of the senior players and I have no problem relying on kids for the rest. These kids need to spend time playing together in the same team.
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We have a fair few kids starting to come into their breakout years agewise after 3-5 years in the system. Add to them some of the senior players and I have no problem relying on kids for the rest. These kids need to spend time playing together in the same team.
Spot on. Plus we'll most likely finish bottom 2 next year and get another top 6 pick (we need as many quality picks as we can get) rather than having temporary experienced players propping up the side and costing us come draft time because we don't bottom out. Flogging a dead horse but having both picks 18 and 20 would've been really handy in 6 weeks time.
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Geelong Cats speedster David Wojcinski baulks at one-year offer
Daniel Breen
October 13th, 2009
SPEEDY defender David Wojcinski's future at Geelong still remains up in the air as his management seeks a better deal from the Cats.
Wojcinski, who has played 153 AFL matches and was presented with club life membership at this year's Carji Greeves Medal night, has baulked at the Cats' one-year contract offer and could nominate for the pre-season draft if an agreement cannot be reached.
Cats president stuff Costa yesterday said the club hoped to keep the 29-year-old dual premiership player.
"The last I heard was David Wojcinski was very keen to stay with Geelong and we're keen to keep him. Losing Shane Mumford (to Sydney) was unfortunate but that's left us with a little more room in the salary cap," Costa said.
"We want to keep the whole crew together and we've had awful pressure to do that since 2007. There may be a casualty or two but we hope there won't be."
Wojcinski is looking for at least a two-year deal to stay at Skilled Stadium.
A spokeswoman for Wojcinski's manager Paul Connors said the dashing defender hoped to stay at Geelong but was examining his options.
"Nothing's really changed. There's an offer on the table from Geelong. David's preference is to stay but it sort of depends on their salary cap issues," she said.
"Hopefully it will be sorted out in the next few weeks. His option is to stay there or nominate for the pre-season draft.
"There has been some interest from other clubs. David's preference is to stay, so we'll have to work that out and we hope to meet with the club in the next week."
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2009/10/13/111071_gfc.html
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
Depends on how quietly you make your point. :)
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
What a stupid thing to say.
We did not make the 8, nor come anywhere near it.
Should we give Cuz back? ???
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
Jesse Smith cant even stay on the track & wouldnot blow wind up Wozza's ass.
How can you judge a player like Smith when he cant even solidate a position in a weak Roos side ;D
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
what does solidate mean?
Jesse Smith cant even stay on the track & wouldnot blow wind up Wozza's ass.
How can you judge a player like Smith when he cant even solidate a position in a weak Roos side ;D
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Jesse Smith & David Wojcinski
No!
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Apparently Jesse Smith was seen by three club doctors last week during the trade period and apparently his ankles are stuffed. If that is the case lets just pass on him. Don't need another half fit player on our list.
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
What a stupid thing to say.
We did not make the 8, nor come anywhere near it.
Should we give Cuz back? ???
Stupid??
Wow, when you reply with something like that i take no offence.
In no way what so ever did i imply that we made the 8. The reasoning behind picking up Cousins was to bolster our stocks for a finals tilt, was it not?! Although that never occured it was the reason for drafting him. In previous comments, comparisons have been drawn between him and Wojo but our position differs from that of last year- as we are a long way off finals. Therefore we should be looking to youth, yes?
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Apparently Jesse Smith was seen by three club doctors last week during the trade period and apparently his ankles are stuffed. If that is the case lets just pass on him. Don't need another half fit player on our list.
Seems to be the end of him if thats the case and I agree we need to pass on him. Funny though how North are going around saying that they wanted to keep him and how he was offered a new contract. Who knows what is going on with him, have our Doctors checked him out yet I wonder??
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I would take Jesse Smith over Wojo if both were available. Wojo might help make us look competitive next year but in 2-3 when we need serious players he will be retiring where Smith should be holding down a KP.
Comparisons between Wojcinski and Cousins are silly, we took cuz on the premise that we were having a serious crack at the 8.
oh and its a moot point not a mute point
What a stupid thing to say.
We did not make the 8, nor come anywhere near it.
Should we give Cuz back? ???
Stupid??
Wow, when you reply with something like that i take no offence.
In no way what so ever did i imply that we made the 8. The reasoning behind picking up Cousins was to bolster our stocks for a finals tilt, was it not?! Although that never occured it was the reason for drafting him. In previous comments, comparisons have been drawn between him and Wojo but our position differs from that of last year- as we are a long way off finals. Therefore we should be looking to youth, yes?
No.
I would argue having Cuz makes is a very good thing for the 'youth' already on the list.
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Wojo NUP - Smith, could be worth a shot - A Pre-season on the hard grounds should see if he is up to it or not.
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Even though he's 29, i'd look at Robert Shirley in the PSD.
Wealth of experience from the Crows, and he's a good tagger.
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Even though he's 29, i'd look at Robert Shirley in the PSD.
Wealth of experience from the Crows, and he's a good tagger.
Who would you drop for him champ??
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Just goes to show what some know nothing about football on here when they say they would look at Jesse Smith :rollin
pushed to the limit as a junior & was injured when being drafted & has never recovered.
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Even though he's 29, i'd look at Robert Shirley in the PSD.
Wealth of experience from the Crows, and he's a good tagger.
Who would you drop for him champ??
Where do you start?
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Apparently Jesse Smith was seen by three club doctors last week during the trade period and apparently his ankles are stuffed. If that is the case lets just pass on him. Don't need another half fit player on our list.
Seems to be the end of him if thats the case and I agree we need to pass on him. Funny though how North are going around saying that they wanted to keep him and how he was offered a new contract. Who knows what is going on with him, have our Doctors checked him out yet I wonder??
I'm pretty sure our doctors would say he is right to go! :lol
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Apparently Jesse Smith was seen by three club doctors last week during the trade period and apparently his ankles are stuffed. If that is the case lets just pass on him. Don't need another half fit player on our list.
Seems to be the end of him if thats the case and I agree we need to pass on him. Funny though how North are going around saying that they wanted to keep him and how he was offered a new contract. Who knows what is going on with him, have our Doctors checked him out yet I wonder??
I'm pretty sure our doctors would say he is right to go! :lol
LOL, yeah I was thinking the exact same thing as I was typing the post... :thumbsup
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Just goes to show what some know nothing about football on here when they say they would look at Jesse Smith :rollin
pushed to the limit as a junior & was injured when being drafted & has never recovered.
No worries Quents - You know it all :bow
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Just goes to show what some know nothing about football on here when they say they would look at Jesse Smith :rollin
pushed to the limit as a junior & was injured when being drafted & has never recovered.
No worries Quents - You know it all :bow
your one of them ;D